[05:07] hi mazal psychicist and others [06:01] mornings [06:04] morning Kilos, ThatGraemeGuy [06:05] hi ThatGraemeGuy [06:05] morning superfly [06:05] hows the fly and family today? [06:08] tired [06:08] ai! [06:32] good mornings [06:32] hi inetpro [06:32] 7mm [06:33] Kilos: last night? [06:33] * inetpro didn't notice any rains [06:33] * Kilos needs to power down to remove wireless card for modification purposes [06:33] yeah last night [06:34] and yesterday avy when i warned you [06:34] wbb [06:39] * Kilos came again back [07:01] tumbleweed: ping [07:02] superfly: hi [07:02] tumbleweed: I'm having issues with my computer again -_- [07:04] yeah? [07:04] if I run strace on a couple of apps that appear to hang, these are the last few lines: http://pastebin.com/bkTqk6QT [07:05] Kate was one, and TortoiseHG was another [07:05] out of the repos, nothing unusual about them [07:05] this is debian unstable, btw [07:05] what's on the other end of that socket? [07:05] I saw this same behaviour on Kubuntu [07:05] not a clue [07:05] ICE sounds familiar. KDE message bus? [07:06] here are a few more lines before that http://pastebin.com/QYcsQbby [07:06] lsof /tmp/.ICE-unix/3815 ? [07:07] tumbleweed: I think it's an X thing, to be honest [07:07] http://pastebin.com/gDA36n3Y [07:08] ah, the KDE session manager [07:09] strace it? [07:09] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/58171 seems related [07:10] Yes, I came across that the last time this happened... [07:11] there are some ubuntu developers chatting ni that bug (still reading it) [07:14] ah, it trails off at the end [07:14] with avahi being a likely culprit for closing ice connections without notice [07:26] ok, let's see if I can strace ksmserver [07:28] good luck. I'm exhausted and going to bed [07:30] OK... night night [08:05] Hi guys , who else in Gauteng felt last night's earthquake ? [08:05] http://m.emsc.eu/earthquake/earthquake.php?id=346474 [08:05] nope [08:06] Was scary , at first I thought it is the mine , then it might be another teller being blown up , but as the shacking continued I realized it must be a quake [08:07] Here in Cullinan we all felt it [08:08] wow [08:09] inetpro, ^^ did you feel it? [08:10] mind you mazal arent you about 100ks from pta central [08:10] 50km [08:10] And my mind immediately went to the chapter we studied last night , Matthew 24 [08:11] Where is 3000km South of PTA ? Must be in the ocean yes ? [08:12] yes [08:13] about 1500 to capetown [08:13] oh thats by road [08:13] Sjoe [08:13] Oom Kilos have you ever used mint ? [08:13] nope [08:14] ive used mate on ubuntu though [08:14] Saw a few screenshots online last night of Mint 16 , looks really beautiful [08:14] isnt that a mint thing [08:14] I dunno , I think so [08:14] i dont worry beautiful. everything must just work [08:15] ya man mate and cinnamon [08:15] Call me old school , but that menu looks so much better than the unity thing [08:15] oh like gnome2 [08:15] Ya , nut way better [08:15] like maverick [08:15] The menu has lots of extra info [08:16] And features [08:16] 10.10 was and still is the easiest for me [08:16] morning [08:16] Reminded me a bit of K's menu [08:16] hi Squirm- [08:16] Morning Squirm- === Squirm- is now known as Squirm [08:17] QA, distance pretoria to capetown [08:17] Kilos: *blink* [08:17] hmm... [08:18] 1458km according to google maps [08:18] ty ThatGraemeGuy [08:19] QA in a blinking mood again today hehehe [08:19] mazal: Excuse me? [08:19] QA sjoes en gaan maak koffie [08:19] mazal: Huh? [08:19] i got the command wrong [08:20] you see maaz is dead [08:20] Didn't even see that [08:20] thats why i sent QA here [08:20] QA, coffee on [08:20] * QA flips the salt-timer [08:21] qa coffee please [08:21] mazal: Okay [08:23] QA snappy snappy snappe [08:23] mazal: *blink* [08:24] Coffee's ready for Kilos and mazal! [08:24] QA, ty [08:24] You're welcome Kilos [08:24] qa , dankie [08:24] mazal: That didn't go down very well. Burp. [08:25] qa , thank you [08:25] mazal: not at all [08:25] oh my [08:25] ish [08:26] cocooncrash: what happened to Maaz? [08:26] there she fixed for dankie now [08:26] Kilos: no I didn't feel it [08:26] no time to get her up to date with maaz [08:27] mazal, where was the epicentre [08:27] Kilos: but I noticed people all around us feeling/experiencing the shakes [08:27] aha [08:27] mainly to the east looks like [08:28] from Jhb, Midrand, Pretoria, kwaNdebele, Shoshanguve and all the way to Warmbad [08:28] Kilos the info says 3048km south of pta [08:28] and then I even noticed people talking about Hartebeespoort Dam and as far as Polokwane [08:28] wow [08:29] sjoe i musta been asleep [08:29] but there was definitely nothing at my house [08:30] nor here [08:30] the Magalies mountain is rock solid [08:31] good morning [08:34] yeah [08:34] hi charl [08:35] hi Kilos [08:35] where's Maaz [08:35] having a break [08:35] he's our coffee maid, who said he can take a break [08:35] or the server be broke [08:35] hehe [08:36] it's a pity maaz isn't from a japanese maid cafe, otherise he would have made us omuraisu too [08:40] do you eat wasabi [08:42] serious burn but lekker flavour [08:45] fun fact, unless you eat it in japan and pay a pretty penny, chances are that you aren't actually eating real wasabi but a horseradish/mustard/food colouring mixture [08:45] yeah sad hey [08:46] wasabi plants are quite rare and generally only cultivated in japan [08:47] yeah and not an easy thing to grow. temp of 8 to 20 degrees c and humid [08:54] weather buiding from the south again [08:54] building [08:54] ai! from the north [09:20] hi psyatw [09:20] hi Kilos [10:45] Oom Kilos , I'm going to install mate on my 12.04 and try it out [10:46] it was faster [10:47] Will do at home where I have uncapped. Will probably be quite a download [10:49] Gaan aanhou soek tot ek happy is met my DE [10:49] Dalk sommer kubuntu-desktop ook try , dan hoef ek mos nie oor te install nie [10:49] ja dis reg [10:50] mate is naby aan die ou ubuntu [10:50] 10.10 style [10:52] Ag daar werk die eerste install command vir mate al klaar nie **sigh** [10:52] ai! [10:52] wat doen jy verkeerd [10:53] Niks , copy en paste die command [10:53] Unable to find package errors [10:53] hi mazal [10:53] why are you using such old distributions? [10:54] newer ones don´t function anymore? [10:54] or have become too bloated? [10:54] The new ones are too full of bugs and apps don't work with them psyatw [10:54] http://mate-desktop.org/install/ [10:54] mazal, what kind of bugs? [10:54] you using that [10:54] Many [10:55] I know [10:55] but that was the reason why I never considered ubuntu before 10.04 [10:55] it was always too buggy [10:55] Can't even remember them all , 13.04 drove me back to 12.04 with many issues. And the only 9 months support thing forcing re-installs every 6 months is also a total killer [10:55] 12.04 is good man [10:56] Well it's stablish [10:56] Not totally stable though [10:56] and only now with kubuntu 13.04 do I find it usable [10:56] But at least the apps works [10:56] mine is totally stable in unity and kde [10:57] 13.10 kubuntu is lekker as well [10:57] you got something sick there mazal remember [10:58] Yeah , thing is though , it got that way by itself. Hence I say it's not stable [10:59] haha [11:00] now you want to put mate onto that faulty system [11:00] do a clean install first man [11:01] no good installing another de onto a faulty system [11:02] That link you gave me at least hasn't bombed out on a command yet [11:02] yay [11:03] Think that site I was had something wrong in their commands [11:04] Oi you see , my curiosity got me doing it here now where I don't have uncapped :P [11:07] ai! [11:07] you want to borrow my email addy? [11:08] maybe goosie is finished with it now [11:10] Ah well , guess now is a good time as I made an image 3 hours ago [11:10] If I break it , better now that later [11:12] I should have tried it on Barry's pc , he is on leave lol [11:13] lol [11:14] It's installing a lot of stuff from the ubuntu repos ? [11:14] yes [11:14] Thoght everything would come from the mate ppa [11:14] you end up with many mate packages and whatever dependancies they need as well [11:17] * mazal whistles a tune [11:17] These times when I miss my 4mb line [11:18] BTW oom , you don't know if those new guys of remastersys has made progress yet ? [11:20] Ok , here we go , rebooting to mate. Will be back.......hopefully [11:26] Cool , this is so retro :) [11:27] Had a quick look around , can't find Ubuntu one ? [11:42] lol [11:46] Man this reminds me of the good old gnome2 days :) [11:46] haha [11:47] Just needs to get used to using menus again and placing shortcuts [12:37] Bye everyone , enjoy your evening [12:38] wbb [13:43] ok back [13:43] sorry got really busy today [13:46] np [14:04] Kilos: i *love* wasabi or anything else that is spicy [14:04] Kilos: indian food, hot curry, karreraisu (as the japanese call it), cayenne peppers, chilli peppers, etc [14:04] hot mustard is also good [14:09] i found a jap site that exports real wasabe [14:09] dunno the price though [14:10] i was looking for seeds or plants. i think a bathroom should maybe give the right humidity and temp [15:14] how do i convert 0.198367346939 ft to metric [15:21] 6.0462cm [15:21] brat did it [17:07] Maaz, wb [17:07] Thank you so much Kilos my good good friend [17:07] ty cocooncrash [17:08] Maaz, forecast pretoria [17:08] Kilos: Monday: Mostly Cloudy. High: 27° C., Monday Night: Mostly Cloudy. Low: 17° C., Tuesday: Thunderstorm. High: 28° C., Tuesday Night: Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low: 17° C., Wednesday: Partly Cloudy. High: 29° C., Wednesday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 16° C., Thursday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 27° C., Thursday Night: Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low: [17:08] 15° C., Friday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 26° C., Friday Night: Chance of a Thunde… [17:15] Maaz: you late, where's my coffee been today [17:15] charl: *blink* [17:16] he makes me coffee every day and now he's decided to go awol [17:18] hehe [17:23] hi nlsthzn [17:25] alo charl and all [17:37] hi nlsthzn [17:37] alo uncle Kilos [17:37] My daughter is flying on the 14th so your hardware will be in SA in little more than a week ;) [17:37] oooowweeeee [17:38] I just need to get some packaging material ASAP :p [17:39] where is she going nlsthzn ? [17:39] city wise i mean [17:39] Boksburg for the most part AFAIK [17:39] ah [17:40] but we will still talk about how to get it to you... [17:46] cool. [17:47] * nlsthzn goes to earn some money [18:18] hi psychicist [18:57] night all of ya. sleep tight