[00:00] <chutney> otak, at first impression, a video card problem?
[00:01] <otak> yes its a nvidia in a compaq presario
[00:01] <chutney> which nvidia driver are you using otak?
[00:01] <Beldar> otak, missing graphic driver in ubuntu possibly, vista would be ##windows
[00:02] <chutney> otak, if you are having problems in windows vista too, it might be a hardware problem
[00:02] <otak> yes I was putting off asking there, it's my friend's laptop, just gathering clues
[00:03] <Beldar> otak, slitaz runs in X however
[00:03] <otak> slitaz seems like a framebuffer
[00:04] <Beldar> otak, Is the ubuntu a live environment or a install? use nicks here.
[00:04] <otak> Beldar: it's a live usb
[00:04] <Beldar> otak, You familiar with nomodeset?
[00:05] <Beldar> or failsafe x on a install
[00:05] <otak> yes but i did not know when to add it without grub
[00:05] <Beldar> otak, I live hot f6 at the first gui.
[00:05] <Beldar> hit*
[00:06] <Beldar> otak, Might be hardware but you can check that at least if you like.
[00:07] <otak> Beldar: thanks I'm trying it now
[00:11] <oz0ne> after blacklisting a driver with adding "install module /bin/false" wll you still need to update initramfs?
[00:12] <nallison19> question is this the best room to be in for a error message question?
[00:12] <nallison19> an error*
[00:13] <sam113101> nallison19: what is it about?
[00:13] <nallison19> hi sam I have a zareason laptop with an internal data pool error related to my blu-ray/DVD optical drive
[00:14] <nallison19> I am running ubuntu 13.10 saucy and have already run a command in terminal for relevant info
[00:14] <sam113101> well yes, you're in the right channel
[00:14] <nallison19> cool beans
[00:15] <sam113101> what's your problem? what is the exact error message you're getting?
[00:15] <sam113101> (you can use http://pastie.org to paste it)
[00:15] <nallison19> internal data pool error msg after DVD playback
[00:17] <jhutchins> nallison19: Was the playback satisfactory?
[00:18] <nallison19> nope the error occured during play back
[00:18] <nallison19> ran sudo lswh -c disk during playback
[00:18] <nallison19> no real helpful info was given
[00:19] <nallison19> brb
[00:20] <nallison19> also btw the DVD/BLU ray optical drive has been replaced already by Zareason
[00:20] <nallison19> so I hope this is not a hardware issue
[00:21] <jhutchins> nallison19: An obvious thing to check is to try several discs.
[00:22] <nallison19> I have tried 2 DVD's one with an issue one without, I should try to watch the whole DVD that worked
[00:22] <nallison19> is there a way I could see a message log while watching my DVD
[00:22] <nallison19> of what is going with the hardware
[00:22] <nallison19> ?
[00:22] <jhutchins> what player are you using?
[00:24] <nallison19> cdrom        description: DVD-RAM writer        product: BD-RE BT20N
[00:24] <nallison19> vendor: HL-DT-ST        physical id: 0.0.0        bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0        logical name: /dev/cdrom        logical name: /dev/sr0
[00:25] <jhutchins> nallison19: I meant what software.
[00:25] <nallison19> ok sorry VLC and totem
[00:26] <nallison19> but let's simply and say totem
[00:26] <jhutchins> nallison19: Try mplayer; try launching them from a terminal.  This will allow any messages to be displayed.
[00:26] <jhutchins> nallison19: I pretty much expect totem to fail.
[00:26] <nallison19> ok
[00:27] <jhutchins> nallison19: vlc might have options to display more verbose messages as it runs (from terminal).
[00:27] <jhutchins> nallison19: mplayer will definitely give you feedback.
[00:27] <brontosaurusrex> or use cvlc
[00:27] <nallison19> what is the best way to launch from mplayer in the terminal cd to the destination then  ./star mplayer?
[00:27] <walterwoj> Does some one have a minute to helpme with a 'no space left on device' error?  I have terminal access only atm.
[00:28] <gordonjcp> walterwoj: it's pretty self-explanatory
[00:28] <nallison19> yeah walter you have dibs I got to go anyways
[00:28] <gordonjcp> you've run out of disk space
[00:28] <nallison19> I appreciate the help jhut
[00:29] <jhutchins> nallison19: brontosaurusrex Is right, you might need cvlc to run it from the console.
[00:29] <jhutchins> nallison19: manpages will give you the syntax to launch.
[00:29] <brontosaurusrex> maybe cvlc --help | grep dvd
[00:30] <brontosaurusrex> but in any case, just use mplayer or mplayer2
[00:30] <nallison19> ok
[00:30] <nallison19> will do
[00:30] <gordonjcp> walterwoj: can you give some more details?
[00:32] <walterwoj> gordonjcp: You would think so but 'du -sh' says the drive is at 93%  and I should haf 600mb free right now.
[00:33] <Beldar> walterwoj, There are different camps on this but some say over 70% is to much
[00:33] <jrib> walterwoj: that probably means you have some program using a file you have deleted.  Or perhaps space is reserved for root.  We can only guess without actual terminal output available
[00:34] <Myrth> hi, is it possible to install a package with latest version of a minor. for example something like php5~5.4 that would install 5.4.22~blah
[00:34] <jrib> Myrth: why?
[00:34] <gordonjcp> walterwoj: are you sure you're checking the correct device?
[00:34] <skraito> goodbye freenode 0x71 (xc) Our http://www.0x71.org move to efnet server now at channel ##0x71 , find us there if you want to talk to us
[00:34] <walterwoj> I have terminal access what should I run?
[00:34] <gordonjcp> walterwoj: pastebin the command you typed and the error message *verbatim*
[00:34] <Myrth> jrib: because i've upgraded and one of the extension doesn't work, because it doesn't have library for 5.5 available
[00:35] <jrib> skraito: please don't make off-topic announcements in this channel.  Thanks
[00:35] <Myrth> jrib: so now i need to downgrade
[00:35] <Guest22282> hey, I have windows 7 and tried to install ubuntu with wubi and windows still works but the ubuntu install didnt and I dont know how to fix it
[00:35] <jrib> Myrth: apt-get install PACKAGE=VERSION   will install version VERSION of package PACKAGE.  But I'm somewhat confused.  Are you using official repositories?
[00:36] <jrib> walterwoj: you could also be out of inodes.
[00:36] <jrib> walterwoj: what do you want to do next?  You need to make space on your drive
[00:36] <Guest22282> me?
[00:36] <Beldar> Guest22282, You can remove wubi in add remove of windows, wubi is hardly supported, justa a file in windows and rarely advised unless that is te only option.
[00:36] <Beldar> the*
[00:36] <Guest22282> oh alright thanks alot
[00:37] <walterwoj> I store every thin on another drive.  The only files there are operating system files.
[00:37] <walterwoj> jrib how do I check my inodes?
[00:37] <jrib> walterwoj: df -i
[00:37] <Guest22282> how could I install ubuntu? I have a 80gig flashdrive but its full of pictures and I cant reformat it, and I cant burn cds?
[00:37] <walterwoj> (I shouldn't have that many files)
[00:37] <Myrth> jrib: i do have ppa.launchpad.net/ondrej
[00:38] <jrib> Guest22282: buy a usb stick or ask a friend to burn a cd?
[00:38] <Beldar> Guest22282, Have a disc or usb is an important tool if installed for any OS.
[00:38] <Myrth> jrib: to install PACKAGE=VERSION i need to know exact version available, is it possible to list which versions i can use?
[00:38] <jrib> Myrth: apt-cache policy PACKAGE
[00:39] <Guest22282> hmm alright, but with usb how do I get it to boot from the usb? like I actually tried to boot from the 80 gig and figured it had to be the only file on it
[00:39] <Guest22282> (cuz it didnt work)
[00:39] <Beldar> Guest22282, Use a virtual till you have the right tools.
[00:39] <Myrth> jrib: i see 5.5.6 and 5.3.10 - original sources didn't upgrade to 5.4?
[00:40] <jrib> Myrth: I don't know anything about your ppa
[00:40] <Myrth> jrib: looks like standard packages is 5.3.10
[00:40] <Guest22282> alright thx
[00:40] <walterwoj> gordonjcp: http://pastebin.com/JzRvdVu7
[00:41] <jrib> Myrth: what ubuntu version?
[00:41] <Myrth> jrib: 12.04
[00:41] <jrib> !info php5 precise
[00:42] <walterwoj> jrib: You nailed it. /dev/sda1 is at 100% usage!
[00:42] <jrib> Myrth: that seems correct.
[00:42] <Myrth> jrib: thanks
[00:42] <jrib> walterwoj: of inodes?
[00:42] <walterwoj> jrib: What can I do to fix that?
[00:43] <skraito> last message
[00:43] <skraito> goodbye freenode 0x71 (xc) Our http://www.0x71.org move to efnet server now at channel ##0x71 , find us there if you want to talk to us
[00:43] <walterwoj> jrib: Yes, somehow I'm at 100% inode usage!
[00:44] <jrib> walterwoj: you should figure out why you have so many files :)
[00:44] <walterwoj> jrib: how do I find out 'where' I have somany files?
[00:44] <jrib> walterwoj: not sure what your best approach is.
[00:44] <jrib> walterwoj: start with: ls -l /
[00:47] <Random832> walterwoj: in various directories type "find . | wc -l" - start with each sub of the root directory
[00:47] <walterwoj> jrib: What am i looking for in the output?
[00:47] <jrib> walterwoj: you're trying to figure out where you have lots of files
[00:48] <Myrth> jrib: i know that ppa is installed,  but i can't find it in sources.list - where else can it be?
[00:48] <zykotick9> walterwoj: just wondering, was the partition that's full - been resized at some point?  (particularily, was it expanded)
[00:48] <Myrth> jrib: never mind, found
[00:49] <jrib> zykotick9: good point
[00:49] <walterwoj> zykotick9: No, it's the opsys partition (10gb) on a 1 tb drive, the other partition is my seed box storage)
[00:49] <walterwoj> I partitioned it that way from the begining
[00:49] <jrib> i would guess some program doing crazy logging
[00:50] <zykotick9> walterwoj: sorry, this was 10GB and now it's 1TB?
[00:50] <Random832> zykotick9: no, he's saying it was 10GB and it's still 10GB
[00:50] <zykotick9> Random832: :) ok...
[00:51] <Random832> walterwoj: run this command
[00:51] <Random832> sudo -v; for i in *; do echo -n $i ' '; sudo find $i | wc -l; done
[00:51] <Random832> in the root directory, sorry, cd / first
[00:52] <walterwoj> random832: 'sudo find . | wc -l' gives me '953169'
[00:52] <Random832> walterwoj: check it in each subdirectory
[00:52] <Random832> try it in /usr first
[00:52] <Random832> my /usr is 112245 and is the largest
[00:52] <Random832> also try /home
[00:55] <fishcooker> i've installed transmission-cli but there is not ~/.config/transmission-cli here
[00:55] <walterwoj> "/storage is the biggest at 338991 (thats the seed partition)
[00:55] <walterwoj> /usr is 393539
[00:55] <walterwoj> /proc is 36475
[00:55] <walterwoj> /home is 87374"
[00:55] <FloodBot1> walterwoj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:55] <walterwoj> sorry!
[00:56] <Random832> walterwoj: my entire system is like 200K total, so just keep looking at subdirectories that still have a ridiculously high number
[00:56] <Rexter> I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 13.10 on a Dell Vostro 220s with an intel integrated graphics card. The problem I have it it shows the Monitor as unknown, and the resolution can be set no higher than 1024X768.
[00:56] <Random832> ok /storage isn't part of it
[00:56] <tnfnsexe> HOW DEEP MUST I GO
[00:56] <Random832> walterwoj: check subdirectories of /usr
[00:56] <walterwoj> ok
[00:56] <ocavid>  /msg NickServ identify honoca03
[00:56] <tnfnsexe> I NEED AN IDEA HOW FAR AWAY FROM HARDWARE I AM TO DECIDE IF IT IS BETTER TO ATTEMPT TO COME FROM HARDWARE UP
[00:56] <Random832> my /usr is like 112K, so 393K is pretty big
[00:57] <walterwoj> "usr/share" is 100k+
[00:57] <walterwoj> "usr/src is 200k+
[00:57] <Duel-Travis> Anyone know why my Ubuntu Install is taking so long? Its been on Creating EXt4 file system for / in partion #2 for a long time
[00:57] <Random832> what all do you have in /usr/src?
[00:57] <maestrojed> This is barely an ubuntu question but maybe someone can help me or point me to a better place: I built an Ubuntu Server in a  Virtual Machine with VirtualBox. I want it to be a local web server. Now I want to use my native OS's browser to view the http output of that server but I can't get it to work. I tried looking at the ubuntu machine's local IP which is 10.0.2.15 and visiting http://10.0.2.15 on the naive machine's browser
[00:57] <maestrojed>  but no go.
[00:57] <walterwoj> Duel-Travis: How long?
[00:57] <Rexter> Duel-Travis, how long is "Too long"?
[00:57] <Duel-Travis> walterwoj, Probably like 15 min
[00:58] <Random832> both of those are a lot compared to mine
[00:58] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; depending on the size of the partition, that's not so bad.
[00:58] <Random832> walterwoj: pastebin ls /usr/src
[00:58] <walterwoj> Duel-Travis: Give it another 15, It can be slow depending on you disk size.
[00:58] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Okay. Im just re installing Ubuntu because my Windows is corrupted.
[00:59] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; a bad HD, or bad Ram ship may have cause the corrupt Windows, as well as the problem you are now having.
[00:59] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, I did get some HDD Disk Errors :/ Hard to replace a hard drive?
[01:00] <walterwoj> Random832: http://pastebin.com/sZpJ3cSi
[01:00] <walterwoj> It's full of headers
[01:00] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; Ram Chip, not ship :)
[01:00] <wolfspy^> what does system load average mean?
[01:00] <wolfspy^> right now mine is 2.05, and that sounds kinda high
[01:00] <wolfspy^> I have a 4 core proccessor though
[01:00] <Random832> walterwoj: that's... a lot of versions
[01:01] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Is it hard to replace a hard drive? Or what should I do
[01:01] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; no, it's a simple swap out. laptop or Desktop?
[01:01] <Random832> walterwoj: sudo apt-get remove 'linux-headers-.*'
[01:01] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Laptop
[01:02] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; wait another 15 min before you give up on it, but check for the bottom of the laptop for an anness door.
[01:02] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Amness door?
[01:02] <nariamm> I needed help connecting my printer on ubuntu
[01:03] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; it's cold in here! "access door"
[01:03] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Im sorry Idk what you mean..
[01:03] <pero> gnome-keyring-daemon --start --components=pkcs11 has been terrorizing my system - it seems that's its creating ~5m/s of i/o for over 10 minutes now
[01:04] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; what hd errors?
[01:04] <walterwoj> Random832: I got a page worth of ' is not installed, so not removed' on that command.
[01:04] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, It just said like I need to check my administrator to see if I need a new hard drive
[01:04] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Said windows detects a hard drive problem
[01:05] <pero> Duel-Travis: you can check the check of your hard drive using the Disks utility
[01:05] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; yea, that's a SMART error comming from the drive. 95% you'll have to replace it.
[01:05] <Random832> walterwoj: doesn't matter, just let it remove what it does find
[01:05] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Damm. Idk what drive i need or whatever I only have 22$ on my amazon.
[01:06] <pero> Duel-Travis: open Disks in dash then click the Settings icon in the top right corner on the drive you want to examine and click SMART
[01:06] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; what size drive?
[01:06] <walterwoj> Random832: It removed nothing...
[01:06] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, My current is 500gb
[01:07] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; SATA?
[01:07] <Random832> walterwoj: that's weird
[01:07] <Random832> are you sure you typed it in right?
[01:07] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Im guessing
[01:07] <asued00> guys, which operating system you better recommend, ubuntu, debian or gentoo?
[01:07] <asued00> guys, which operating system you better recommend, ubuntu, debian or gentoo?
[01:07] <asued00> guys, which operating system you better recommend, ubuntu, debian or gentoo?
[01:07] <asued00> guys, which operating system you better recommend, ubuntu, debian or gentoo?
[01:07] <asued00> hey guys
[01:07] <FloodBot1> asued00: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:08] <Duel-Travis> pero, It says Overall Assessment DISK IS LIKELY TO FAIL SOON
[01:08] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; pero had a good suggestion. Boot to the live system, and use the disk utility to check it.
[01:08] <walterwoj> is it safe to delete those files outright?
[01:08] <Random832> walterwoj: just rm -r all of them but the ones with the highest version number then i guess
[01:08] <pero> Duel-Travis: well, there you go
[01:08] <Duel-Travis> Rexter,  well.. :/
[01:08] <Random832> yeah, they're just header files - you need the latest one to compile modules, but older versions tend to build up
[01:08] <Random832> as you update your system
[01:08] <pero> Duel-Travis: today is cyber monday so you can likely find a good deal
[01:08] <Duel-Travis> What should I buy
[01:08] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; you can pick up a 250-500GB used drive on ebay for $20 or so, but you don't know the condition you will get.
[01:08] <asued00> which OS you better recommend, ubuntu, gentoo or dibian?
[01:09] <Rexter> asued00; right tool for the right job.
[01:09] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, I only have 22$ or so on amazon. Think I can get one?
[01:09] <Rexter> Duel-Travis, yea, used.
[01:09] <asued00> got you @rexter
[01:09] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, On amazon?
[01:10] <Rexter> Duel-Travis, yes sellers on Amazon have used stuff.
[01:11] <Rexter> asud00, also a silly question to ask in an ubuntu chat room. I think most people here are partial to ubuntu. ;)
[01:11] <Duel-Travis> pero, http://www.amazon.com/Cyber-Monday/b/ref=cm2013_bunk_frame2?ie=UTF8&node=5550342011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-B1&pf_rd_r=1BAB3CWFSJSTPSHA3BR5&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1682739962&pf_rd_i=507846 where should I look?
[01:11] <gordonjcp> Rexter: IRC channel, not "chat room"
[01:11] <Rexter> gordonjcp; piss off ;)
[01:12] <pero> it sounds like you're tight on cash so i'd get the best 7200rpm hdd that your money can buy
[01:12] <pero> do you have a laptop?
[01:12] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, What size drive should I look for?
[01:12] <Duel-Travis> pero, Okay I will look
[01:12] <Rexter> Dyel-Travis;  pero, agree...
[01:13] <asued00> does my mac 2.3 GHz intel core i5 4gb of ram support ubuntu 64 bit?
[01:13] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Would this work? o.0 http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-WD800BB-7200RPM-Drive/dp/B00005LLY4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1386033184&sr=8-1&keywords=80gb+hdd
[01:13] <otak> thanks Beldar and chutney, nomodeset works on the live usb, I'll get back on the case tomorrow
[01:13] <Phoenixz> Hey, running ubuntu 13.10, I am trying to install teamviewer and its a bloody mess...
[01:14] <linuxuz3r> hi
[01:14] <Phoenixz> Anybody who could help? I've tried the dpkg --add-architecture i386, no help, not working
[01:14] <linuxuz3r> is there an amazon instant video app for ubuntu?
[01:14] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; no that's EIDE, not SATA, it's also a 3.5 ' desktop drive
[01:14] <bigP> Anybody have experience with Apple Imac + ubuntu
[01:14] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, I got no clue what im looking for.
[01:14] <linuxuz3r> bigP, me
[01:14] <linuxuz3r> bigP, what do you need help with
[01:15] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Im probably not going to have enough
[01:15] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=sata+2.5+used&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Asata+2.5+used
[01:15] <bigP> Basically ive booted into a live CD environment but my bluetooth apple keyboard + mouse are non responsive, they worked in the boot menu
[01:15] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-ST9120823AS-Momentus-ATA-300-Internal/dp/B0061YIWGI/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1386033294&sr=8-8&keywords=sata+2.5+used
[01:16] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Would that do? And What should I install on it?
[01:16] <Phoenixz> Has anybody ever managed to install teamviewer on kubuntu 13.10? this is my second try, on a second machine, and its just plain impossible
[01:16] <jrib> Phoenixz: you should say what you are doing and what exactly is happening
[01:17] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; 120GB is small, but you got to do what you got to do in your budget.
[01:17] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Dude I dont have enough for it. The difference is 1$ lol
[01:17] <linuxuz3r> bigp did you read the help pages when you install ubuntu on your imac
[01:17] <pero> 120gb is plenty - you need <10gb for ubuntu
[01:18] <Phoenixz> jrib: Install teamviewer 8 deb... dpkg -i teamviewer.deb file, that fails due to missing deps, okay, sudo apt-get install -f, that fails because lib32asound2 and a few others are not available.. on google, I found that  dpkg --add-architecture i386 should be the solution, so I did that, no results, same failure..
[01:18] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; just an example, look harder. I just glanced for you.
[01:18] <jrib> Phoenixz: why aren't you using the teamspeak-client package from the repositories?
[01:18] <bigP> linuxuz3r i came across a few guides but i cannot follow any of them as i need a working keboard + mouse in order to follow
[01:18] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Will you still be here?
[01:18] <sponzor> hi i aded this lines to vsftpd.conf http://pastebin.com/vVsYserB and after restarting vsftpd it wont work anymore.. how to debug .conf file to see where is error?
[01:18] <Phoenixz> jrib: can I share my desktop with that, like with teamviewer?
[01:19] <jrib> Phoenixz: I don't know.
[01:19] <bigP> linuxuz3r also im not trying to install i just wanted to run Live
[01:19] <Phoenixz> jrib: well, then I guess thats why :)
[01:19] <jrib> Phoenixz: why would my knowledge of a feature make you not use a package?
[01:19] <Phoenixz> jrib: the other side has teamviewer ready...
[01:20] <jrib> Phoenixz: sorry.  I somehow read your question as "teamspeak" not *viewer*
[01:20] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, What is the lowest GB I should go?
[01:20] <linuxuz3r> bigp if it is not working try using a usb kb m
[01:21] <jrib> Phoenixz: so what happens when you try to install lib32asound2 ?
[01:21] <Phoenixz> ok, what is a good desktop sharing thing in ubuntu then?
[01:21] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; I have used drives. I'd hook you up with a 250GB, but you'd have to pay with a CC. I don't have them on Amazon. I run a PC repair shop
[01:21] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Crap man. Im not even old enough for a CC yet lol.
[01:22] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; are you in the US?
[01:22] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Yea
[01:22] <Phoenixz> jrib: E: Package 'lib32asound2' has no installation candidate
[01:22] <jrib> Phoenixz: why aren't you using the 64bit package of teamviewer?
[01:23] <Phoenixz> jrib: I did...
[01:23] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; well talk to Mom, or Dad. Contact me on Facebook if you want to but a drive from me. https://www.facebook.com/pchomepros
[01:23] <jrib> Phoenixz: it's called "teamviewer.deb"?
[01:23] <Phoenixz> jrib: teamviewer 64 bits is just 32bits anyway...
[01:23] <Phoenixz> teamviewer_linux_x64.deb
[01:23] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, How much would it be?
[01:23] <topper4125> !vnc | Phoenixz
[01:23] <Phoenixz> it STILL requires these 32 bit libraries
[01:24] <jrib> Phoenixz: the more specific you are, the easier it is to help you
[01:24] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; $20 I'll even pay shipping.
[01:24] <walterwoj> Thanks everyone, I now have only 54% of Inodes used!
[01:24] <Phoenixz> topper4125: I need to do this with a noob on the other end.. getting teamviewer to install on his 12.04 is nearly impossible already..
[01:24] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, Is there a way we can PM on here?
[01:24] <jrib> Phoenixz: anyway, you should probably just go complain to teamviewer because those packages don't exist anymore (lib32* et al
[01:25] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; sure
[01:25] <jrib> Phoenixz: do the multi-arch packages have the same deps?
[01:25] <ocavid> any info about unkown graphics device
[01:25] <Phoenixz> jrib: that does not help me now..
[01:25] <jrib> Phoenixz: use the multi-arch package
[01:25] <Phoenixz> topper4125: I'm with a total noob on the other end here... getting teamviewer installed on his  12.04 side was nearly impossible
[01:26] <Phoenixz> jrib: which do you mean?
[01:26] <jrib> Phoenixz: https://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx
[01:26] <jrib> Phoenixz: "multi-arch"
[01:26] <jrib> --
[01:26] <eN_Joy> a memory usage question: i used to have 4GB total, 2GB used, now i have 3GB used, i don't recall since when my mem usage has increased, or what new service/package has caused, since it has been few monthes until i noticed the change, what would be the most efficient way to find out what the real cause was? thanks
[01:26] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; fried request the admin, that's me.
[01:26] <jrib> eN_Joy: top
[01:26] <ocavid> i have setup my graphics using nvidia settings to generate xorg.conf but it seems not working, when i look at the system settings info says graphics unkown
[01:26] <eN_Joy> jrib: i found out the info via top
[01:27] <jrib> eN_Joy: top tells you the process using memory
[01:27] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, done
[01:27] <Gabboz> Hi.  12.04 server.  I got this message on a few servers "*** /dev/sda2 will be checked for errors at next reboot ***"  My question is what makes the OS determine this is required?  The box hasn't crashed.  Thanks.
[01:27] <topper4125> Phoenixz, http://www.teamviewer.com/en/help/363-How-do-I-install-TeamViewer-on-my-Linux-distribution.aspx about 2/3rd down the page is answers your question (hopefully)
[01:28] <Phoenixz> yes, I already tried that.. dpkg --add-architecture i386  not working
[01:28] <jrib> Phoenixz: what does "not working" mean?...
[01:29] <Phoenixz> jrib: It means: exactly the same problem
[01:29] <topper4125> You missed the part that said: "On newer 64-bit DEB-systems with Multiarch-support (Debian 7) teamviewer_linux_x64.deb cannot be installed because the package ia32-libs is not available anymore on these systems. In this case you can use teamviewer_linux.deb instead."
[01:29] <Phoenixz> I already did it, it made no difference
[01:29] <jrib> Phoenixz: did you get the multiarch package?
[01:29] <Rexter> Duel-Travis; you didn't like the page.
[01:29] <Phoenixz> Topslack: I might have missed that.. Alraedy downloading it on jrib suggestion, I'll try it
[01:29] <Danato> Rexter: I jst took a look at your page, it looks like a tech/humor page, pretty interesting
[01:30] <message144> Hi folks.  I am on Ubuntu 12.04.3 Desktop, kernel 3.2.0-56-generic.  I ran software update a few days ago.  After running it and restarting my computer, I now am experiencing some strange behaviour.  The following keybindings do not work at all: CTRL-v, CTRL-y, CTRL-_ . For some reason, other CTRL keybindings work fine.  Any ideas?
[01:30] <topper4125> Phoenixz, good luck with it :)
[01:30] <Danato> Rexter: but is it true that nearly 20% of Mac computers are infected by malware?
[01:31] <Rexter> Danato; yes, Mac owners think they don't need anti-virus. They are wrong.
[01:31] <Duel-Travis> Rexter, ?
[01:31] <Phoenixz> Topslack: jrib: makes sense.. if the 64bit version is not working due to 32 bit legacy that should not be there in the first place, install the 32 bit verison, that one WILL work... right..
[01:32] <Rexter> Danto; 5 years from not Ubuntu users will be in the same boat, just my prediction.
[01:32] <jrib> Phoenixz: are you familiar with multi-arch?
[01:32] <Danato> Rexter: I know about that, but Ive never seen any data about it, could you give me the source of that?
[01:32] <Phoenixz> jrib: yeah, but it still is weird that their 64 bit requires 32..
[01:33] <jrib> Phoenixz: it's like you said before, that 64bit version is just installing 32bit libraries.  It's just that the way to use 32bit software has changed.  And now we have multi-arch
[01:34] <Phoenixz> jrib: I know.. but 64bit support is not really new anymore.. :) anyway, the 32 bit version is working as it should... thanks a lot!
[01:34] <Rexter> Danato; http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/24/mac-malware_n_1448561.html
[01:35] <Danato> Rexter: thanks a lot
[01:36] <supergauntlet> alright i have a bumblebee issue
[01:37] <supergauntlet> when I try to run any 3d application with the dedicated GPU this error will sometimes occur and the laptop will then turn off without warning 30 seconds later
[01:37] <supergauntlet> [  320.258227] [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file.  [  320.258259] [ERROR]Aborting because fallback start is disabled.
[01:37] <supergauntlet> any ideas?
[01:38] <Gabboz> Hi.  12.04 server.  I got this message on a few servers "*** /dev/sda2 will be checked for errors at next reboot ***"  My question is what makes the OS determine this is required?  The box hasn't crashed.  Thanks.
[01:39] <ainx> hello
[01:39] <jrib> Gabboz: there is a periodic check after a certain number of mounts (use tune2fs -l to check)
[01:39] <Gabboz> thanks jrib
[01:39] <ainx> what a application as sambroadcaster on linux ?
[01:43] <eugenio> quit
[01:43] <wolfspy> wat
[01:44] <vocx> I'm using Ubuntu 13.10 inside a virtual machine. Yesterday I was watching Youtube videos on it without problems. I just paused the virtual machine, and suspended the host system. Today I just opened the computer again, the virtual machine was strange so I rebooted it. And now I'm using Ubuntu again, but I get no sound. How could I troubleshoot this?
[01:45] <Gabboz> vocx, try shuttind down the VM, disable audio, reboot VM, shut down VM, enable audio and see if it comes back.  Also, you have the VM extensions added?
[01:46] <wafflejock> !alsa | vocx
[01:46] <asdfjkleiso> Hello?
[01:47] <wafflejock> asdfjkleiso: hi
[01:47] <asdfjkleiso> hey there
[01:48] <asdfjkleiso> What's the biggest problem the RPM installations?
[01:48] <supergauntlet> !bumblebee
[01:49] <supergauntlet> hm
[01:49] <Beldar> asdfjkleiso, ubuntu does not use rpm
[01:49] <asdfjkleiso> Is there any major problems using yum/rpms?
[01:49] <Beldar> or yum
[01:49] <asdfjkleiso> yeah
[01:50] <Rexter> I need help. Fresh install of Ubuntu 13.10. Monitor shows unknown, and max res of 1024X768. How do I fix this?
[01:50] <Beldar> asdfjkleiso, and no logical reason to use them either.
[01:50] <asdfjkleiso> why?
[01:51] <Beldar> asdfjkleiso, not designed for ubuntu, it is apt-get and you can source install, common sense.
[01:52] <asdfjkleiso> What if there are only rpm files?
[01:53] <Beldar> asdfjkleiso, Show me one this is support not magical situations
[01:53] <asdfjkleiso> Whats a provacative question to ask a linux instructor?
[01:54] <xangua> asdfjkleiso: do you have an ubuntu support question¿
[01:55] <scipy53> by any chance, are others having problems with firefox? i cant open one tab without it completely stalling my pc
[01:57] <Beldar> scipy53, restart it with addons disabled it is in help
[01:57] <vocx> wafflejock, thanks, will try
[01:57] <scipy53> Beldar, I tried that too, i only have one add-on i believe (ad block plus)
[01:58] <scipy53> it used to work fine until yesterday Beldar
[01:59] <Rexter> I need help with a screen resolution problem.
[01:59] <gassho> we will assist you resolving together your screen issue, if you'd like
[01:59] <gassho> ok Rexter ?
[02:00] <Rexter> gassho; thanks. Fresh install of Ubuntu 13.10 monitor shows as unknown, mas resolution of 1024X768.
[02:01] <gassho> can you see anything?
[02:02] <Guest22282> so I got ubuntu loaded onto a USB stick, to install but also still be able to run windows do I do a custom ubuntu installation or just the regular install alongside windows?
[02:02] <gassho> does the monitor display output of any kind?
[02:02] <gassho> do you just want a higher resolution?
[02:02] <Rexter> gassho, yes I'm on it now, just want to get to native resolution 1280X1024.
[02:02] <xangua> !dualboot | Guest22282
[02:02] <Guest22282> thanks
[02:02] <Beldar> scipy53, You can make a new use instance, a new user I forget the exact name.
[02:03] <Rexter> gassho, but if I get a new monitor, I want it to see it correctly.
[02:03] <gassho> me too
[02:03] <scipy53> Beldar, WIll look into it, thank you
[02:04] <jimgroth> Hey guys. Anyone feel like helping me to get my monitor recognized in Lubuntu under a virtualbox with guest additions installed?
[02:04] <gassho> mmm
[02:04] <gassho> i dont know much about drivers but stick arqound in case someone can guide you further :/
[02:04] <Beldar> jimgroth, So have you googled or used asubuntu to search with your actual release running and the exact monitor?
[02:05] <Rexter> gassho; manually setting resolution would be okay, but not preferred, but ok. I just don't know how to do that.
[02:05] <Beldar> jimgroth, and virtuabox
[02:06] <jimgroth> Beldar, I've been googling but I only find people who get it working after getting the guest additions installed. I haven't searched with my exact monitor because I don't even know where I set it in lubuntu. :P
[02:06] <jimgroth> I haven't used asubuntu. Don't know what that that is.
[02:06] <Beldar> jimgroth, No identification tag on the monitor "model number or info"
[02:07] <Beldar> jimgroth, http://askubuntu.com/
[02:07] <jimgroth> oh, I think I know the monitor. It's a samsung bw243bw
[02:07] <jimgroth> oh, a forum?
[02:07] <Beldar> jimgroth To some extent but monitored by the developers
[02:08] <jimgroth> Ah. I'm more of a realtime communications person really but I'll try there since I'm running out of options.
[02:09] <Beldar> jimgroth, There is also a #vbox channel, just trying to give you some tools and ideas. ;) You have been at this since yesterday that I know of.
[02:09] <Boneheads1999> I need help.  [12.04 LTS w/ Unity] My app minitube's colors are messed up.  It's not the monitor, I checked.  It's only minitube.  If I load the same video in youtube, it works.  An example is that peoples' skin turns blue.  And anything red turns mega-blue.
[02:09] <jimgroth> Beldar, Yea, I asked a few times yesterday as well.
[02:09] <jimgroth> Thanks for the tips. :)
[02:09] <Beldar> no prob
[02:11] <c_nick> \quit
[02:11] <Boneheads1999> And I might've found a solution.. but it requires going into properties of the minitube app, but when I rightclick Minitube on the launcher, there's no "properties" choice.
[02:11] <c_nick> \close
[02:11] <linuxuz3r> is there a text to speech for ubuntu
[02:12] <nf7> What is the best looking Desktop Environment/Window Manager combo?
[02:12] <Beldar> linuxuz3r, I think orca has that option
[02:12] <Beldar> not sure
[02:13] <Rexter> nft7; best looking, really. Thats's like asking who makes the best Pizza? different folks, different strokes
[02:13] <Beldar> linux4u, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech 3 seconds on google
[02:13] <Gnarly> I like running e17 personally, but to each its different
[02:13] <Beldar> first hit with your question
[02:14] <Beldar> !best | nf7
[02:14] <Boneheads1999> does nobody have an answer to my question
[02:15] <Guest22282> if I have two hard drives in RAID is it the same as 1 hard drive for dualboot installation purposes?
[02:15] <Rexter> Boneheads1999; what's the question?
[02:15] <Raff> i'm running a webserver on a virtual machine, with ubuntu 12.04, the network of the vm is bridged, i've redirected the port 80 to the ip 10.0.0.106 on my router on virtual servers tab, but its not working
[02:15] <Beldar> Boneheads1999, any other color problems in the install?
[02:15] <Boneheads1999> Rexter My minitube colors are messed up
[02:15] <Raff> someone know whats going on ?
[02:15] <Boneheads1999> Beldar: Haven't found any no
[02:15] <Beldar> or graphic problems
[02:16] <Boneheads1999> well slight one
[02:16] <Rexter> Boneheads1999; sorry I don't know what minitube is.
[02:16] <Boneheads1999> like, when I roll the cursor over a picture in firefox (and chromium maybe)
[02:16] <Beldar> Boneheads1999, Ah, I wonder if the graphic driver setup is correct.
[02:16] <Boneheads1999> Beldar well I think YT videos work
[02:17] <Rexter> Guest22282, as long as both OS's have  drivers for your RAID controller, and the BIOS can boot from the RAID device.
[02:17] <Boneheads1999> and anyway, someone had a solution for this minitube problem I think.  But it requires going to minitube's properties, and when I right-click on MT in the launcher, there's no "properties" available.
[02:17] <Guest22282> thanks
[02:17] <Beldar> Boneheads1999, I'm not really up on graphic issues I have Intel and never have problems, but that would be my guess.
[02:18] <Rexter> beldar; do you know how to set resolution manually on an intel graphics card?
[02:18] <Boneheads1999> Beldar: read what I just said.  What I basically need to know is: in the file system, where is minitube??
[02:18] <Beldar> Boneheads1999, It seems you have some external go to preference idea, what version are they running if this is the case.
[02:19] <Beldar> Boneheads1999, I am reading it and don't get snarky alright
[02:19] <Boneheads1999> Beldar: omg sorry
[02:19] <Boneheads1999> beldar: sorry
[02:19] <Boneheads1999> beldar: anyway you mean what version of minitube
[02:19] <Boneheads1999> beldar: or what version of ubuntu?
[02:19] <Beldar> Boneheads1999, And do not post to me I will not see it.
[02:19] <vocx> Hi guys, I fixed my problem with the audio. Yes, rebooting the virtual machine, disabling audio, re-enabling audio, brought it back. Thank you.
[02:20] <Raff> i'm running a webserver on a virtual machine, with ubuntu 12.04, the network of the vm is bridged, i've redirected the port 80 to the ip 10.0.0.106 on my router on virtual servers tab, but its not working
[02:21] <Rexter> Raff; what OS is the host machine?
[02:21] <Raff> fedora
[02:22]  * Beldar is a conehead not a bonehead, lol
[02:22] <Rexter> Raff; is the VM getting it's IP from the router?
[02:22] <jimgroth> Raff, Does the server listen only to a certain domain?
[02:22] <Raff> yes
[02:23] <Rexter> Raff; are you sure? do you see it in the DHCP table on the router?
[02:23] <Raff> yes
[02:23] <Rexter> can you access the web server from the intranet?
[02:24] <Raff> kolab.example.org	    00-0C-29-6A-75-B1	 10.0.0.106	 Permanente
[02:24] <Raff> from intranet yes
[02:24] <linuxuz3r> oh man
[02:24] <Rexter> Raff; just to clarify, you can access it from another machine on the lan?
[02:24] <linuxuz3r> opensource really rocks
[02:24] <Raff> yes
[02:25] <jimgroth> Have you made sure your ISP doesn't filter port 80?
[02:26] <Rexter> Raff; would't you just use simple port forwarding?
[02:27] <Raff> i dont know if my isp filter the port 80
[02:27] <MarGul> Just installed PHP for my ubuntu-server running nginx and I have done changes in my virtual host file (settings http://paste.ubuntu.com/6512329/ ). I created a index.php file in /usr/share/nginx/html but when I try 192.168.0.254/index.php I get "unable to connect"
[02:28] <jimgroth> Raff, try forwarding port 8080 from your router to port 80 on the server machine. Then enter example.com:8080 and see if you get a connect
[02:28] <MarGul> Am I forgetting something? I have restarted nginx a few times but still my index.php is not getting shown
[02:28] <Raff> ok
[02:28] <Boneheads1999> different help now.  How do I make a desktop shortcut to an application.
[02:29] <Rexter> I could use some help with a screen resolution issue.
[02:30] <MarGul> Boneheads1999: look up the command ln , will give you a link to a file
[02:30] <Beldar> Rexter, don't just ask for help keep the details with your posts
[02:30] <Rexter> max resolution of 1024X768 won't do. How do I set it manually?
[02:30] <Boneheads1999> margul: this may sound stupid but I don't understand
[02:31] <jimgroth> Rexter, You need to share what os version you've got to start with
[02:31] <isosceles> hi, does anybody know how to use a UCA202 USB audiocard?
[02:31] <MarGul> Boneheads1999: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/ln.1.html . The command ln will create a link "shortcut" to another file without creating a new file
[02:32] <Beldar> Rexter, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[02:32] <Rexter> Beldar; Thanks, monitor shows as unknown, max resolution 1024X768. That's far from the native resolution. How do I get Ubuntu 13.10 to see it correctly?
[02:32] <jimgroth> Rexter, are you using a virtual machine?
[02:32] <MarGul> Boneheads1999: So basically ln <yourfile> <file located at /home/desktop/>
[02:32] <Rexter> jimgroth; no, bare metal.
[02:33] <Raff> thanks, jimgroth , it worked, i was trying to solve it, i didn't know my isp filter the port 80, thanks man, its woking on 8080
[02:33] <Beldar> Rexter, xrandr in the terminal will tell you whats available, take a look at the link as well.
[02:33] <jimgroth> Good. Too bad though since it means you can't serve from home.
[02:34] <Boneheads1999> margul: how do I know what my file is called?
[02:35] <Rexter> Beldar; yea, it shows 1024x768 max, that's not right.
[02:35] <MarGul> Boneheads1999: Find where you installed your application and your file should be in there
[02:35] <Boneheads1999> Margul, I dunno where it is.. USC installed it
[02:35] <Beldar> Rexter, The link might have some clues
[02:35] <shesek> so I'm trying to add nginx's ppa to my system and install the latest stable, but it keeps using the one from universe/web
[02:36] <chaotix> hi...  i am having a problem.. i like the game supertuxkart, but on this computer and this screen the window is too large for the screen, and 1024x768 is the only resolution that works with the screen...  what can i do?
[02:37] <shesek> I tried pinning in by adding that to /etc/apt/preferences: "Package * | Pin: origin ppa.launchpad.net | Pin-Priority: 1000", but no dice :-\
[02:37] <shesek> any advice?
[02:38] <Rexter> Beldar; yea, I see a lot of info there, but none of it seems to be relevant to my issue. What would cause the monitor to show as unknown? is it a driver issue?
[02:38] <MarGul> Boneheads1999: look up the find command "find / -name "myfile.txt" will look in the harddrive for the file myfile.txt . Change that to the name of your program followed by a asterix "find / -name "Skype*"
[02:39] <MarGul> that will find all the files having Skype in it
[02:39] <Beldar> Rexter, Not sure not an area I have a lot of knowledge in, however if it were me I would be checking the types of modes your graphic system can run in.
[02:39] <Rexter> Beldar; I'm pretty sure this monitor native is 1680X1050.
[02:40] <Beldar> Rexter, Do you understand by what I mean with modes?
[02:40] <Rexter> Beldar; no. How do I check that?
[02:41] <Beldar> Rexter, look at this section on the link for a general idea. Intel driver - UMS
[02:42] <Rexter> Beldar; what I do know, is when this system was running Windows 7 I was able to run native resolution.
[02:42] <notnicklas> Hi. I'm trying to create a desktop launche from a .profile does something like "gnome-terminal -x mutt". The new terminal doesn't seem to have 256 color support, any ideas on how to fix this?
[02:43] <Beldar> Rexter, You are just repeating yourself expecting to be led to an answer, this is not always the case with open sources is all. ;)
[02:44] <jrib> notnicklas: how are you determining it doesn't have 256 color support?
[02:44] <jmgk> I think I messed it up
[02:45] <jmgk> Ubuntu kernel :(
[02:45] <Rexter> Beldar; I'm with you. I'm just lacking the background knowledge, to fully understand the very large bunch of info you provided. 90% not relevant to my issue. I can't spot the needle in the haystack.
[02:45] <notnicklas> jrib: a lot of "Error in /home/federico/.muttrc, line 109: 108: color not supported by term
[02:45] <jrib> notnicklas: run bash instead of mutt and check
[02:45] <jmgk> yeah fix it or check it out
[02:46] <chaotix> hi...  i am having a problem.. i like the game supertuxkart, but on this computer and this screen the window is too large for the screen, and 1024x768 is the only resolution that works with the screen...  what can i do?
[02:46] <notnicklas> jrib: that works fine, I'm thinking the launcher is not reading my .bash_profile/.bashrc
[02:46] <jrib> notnicklas: right, bash isn't spawned at all I think
[02:47] <notnicklas> jrib: bash -c it is then, ty :)
[02:47] <Rexter> chaotix; is your 1024X768 specific to the game?
[02:48] <Coryn> is there a shortcut for creating a new file?
[02:48] <Boneheads1999> where's the .config folder?
[02:48] <jrib> Coryn: touch newfile
[02:48] <notnicklas> Boneheads1999: in your home (~ or /home/your_username)
[02:49] <Boneheads1999> there's nothing there.. is it hidden? if so, any idea how to show hidden files/folders?
[02:49] <locoloco> chaotix: take a gander at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xrandr#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[02:49] <jrib> Boneheads1999: what program are you using to look for it?
[02:49] <Coryn> is there a shortcut for creating a new file, in the actual file manager?
[02:49] <Boneheads1999> just the file system looks like
[02:49] <jrib> Coryn: right click
[02:49] <Rexter> chaotix; your issue sounds similar to mine. Are you there?
[02:49] <chaotix> Rexter, 1024x768 is the resolution set in system settings
[02:50] <Boneheads1999> jrib: well, the program is called "Home"
[02:50] <chaotix> it is the only res that works with this tv screen
[02:50] <jrib> Boneheads1999: view -> show hidden files (or ctrl-h)
[02:50] <Coryn> jrib: that's not a short cut
[02:50] <jrib> Coryn: you mean a keyboard shortcut?
[02:50] <vocx> Coryn, what is a short cut for you?
[02:52] <Rexter> chaotix; does your monitor show as unknown?
[02:52] <Beldar> Rexter, Sometimes there are users here that have direct answers, I do in some areas. If I need to find an answer though I generally search the web with exact hardware and app info and the release I'm running. So you can run lspci and find the exact graphic card and search the web with that the release and resolution, that is where I would start, try askubuntu with that search.
[02:52] <tnfnsexe> GET THE PASSCODES TO THE NAZI COMPLEX
[02:52] <chaotix> Rexter, i do not think so
[02:53] <Rexter> chaotix, check it!
[02:53] <chaotix> Rexter, i only have a problem in supertuxkart
[02:53] <notnicklas> jrib: any suggestions on how to launch the cli app after loading bash? `bash -c mutt` is not doing the trick (Failed to execute child process "bash -c mutt" (No such file or directory))
[02:53] <chaotix> Rexter, is your problem also related to supertuxkart?
[02:53] <Beldar> !ops | tnfnsexe check posts
[02:53] <Rexter> chaotix; I understand, but I'm suggesting your problem is a symptom of a more general problem.
[02:53] <jrib> notnicklas: try not using quotes or using -e instead of -x
[02:54] <chaotix> Rexter, it is not unknow, it comes up with the brand name of the tv and 40"
[02:54] <jrib> notnicklas: why do you need to source those bash files for color support though?
[02:54] <Rexter> chaotix; what is the max resolution of the TV?
[02:54] <chaotix> Rexter, i do not know
[02:55] <notnicklas> jrib: I need to `export TERM="xterm-256color"`
[02:55] <chaotix> 1024x768 is the only resolution that works with my tv, Rexter
[02:55] <Rexter> Beldar; thank you for your effort. I am continuing to scour the link you provided, as well as other sources.
[02:55] <jrib> notnicklas: does gnome-terminal not do that?
[02:55] <Rexter> chaotix; that's not waht
[02:56] <chaotix> Rexter, what?
[02:56] <chaotix> Rexter, i do not know what it is that you are asking
[02:56] <notnicklas> jrib: apparently not by default, if I comment that out I lose most colors
[02:56] <jrib> notnicklas: you're on 13.10?
[02:56] <Rexter> chaotix; that's not what I asked. 1024X768 is 4x3 a 40 inch TV should be 16x9
[02:56] <notnicklas> jrib: 12.04 :(
[02:57] <Beldar> Rexter, Do you have hdmi?
[02:57] <locoloco> chaotix: what is the brand/model of the TV?
[02:57] <jrib> notnicklas: can probably work around it by just using "env TERM=xterm-256color mutt" but you'll still have to probably not use quotes with -x or use quotes and -e
[02:57] <Rexter> chaotix; I am suggesting your graphics driver isn't seeing it correctly.
[02:58] <chaotix> locoloco, i have a polaroid
[02:58] <notnicklas> jrib: will try that out, thanks :)
[02:59] <locoloco> chaotix: polaroid, okay, you know the model or size?
[02:59] <cryingdoom> Note to self. Look at Slackware documentation to fix any Linux in general :)
[02:59] <Beldar> cryingdoom, generally archlinux is closer
[02:59] <chaotix> locoloco, just found it...  polaroid 3211-tlxb
[03:01] <cryingdoom> I tried installing Arch on UEFI, wound up with Manjaro and I thought I'd take the Unity plunge since gnome2 so I'm here woo ;)
[03:01] <locoloco> chaotix: so, were talking 32-inch, 720p
[03:01] <chaotix> locoloco, yes...  i think you guys are right... in resolutions settings it says 40" tv
[03:01] <chaotix> locoloco, but it is a 32"
[03:02] <Rexter> Beldar; no this is an older 19" 4X3 samsung monitor. The native resolution is 1600x1200
[03:02] <cryingdoom> I think I have fleas from thinking how to install Arch
[03:02] <chaotix> it seems to work fine...  just sometimes i get a window like supertuxkart that is not resizable, that is too large
[03:03] <Beldar> Rexter, Ah, I saw a 40 inch television reference thought it was yours but than realized it was not.
[03:03] <chaotix> other than that, setting things to 1024x768 (3:4) looks fine
[03:03] <chaotix> what should i do, locoloco
[03:03] <Rexter> Beldar; chaotix may have a similar issue to mine on his 40" TV
[03:04] <chaotix> Rexter, its a 32"....  it just says 40" in the resolution settings
[03:05] <chaotix> i need to go to sleep...  if you guys figure it out can you pm me?
[03:05] <chaotix> since you are working on the same thing
[03:05] <Beldar> chaotix, My samsung led has built in resolution changing I believe, you have the manual for it.
[03:05] <Rexter> chaotix; if the game requires higher resolution than the TV is capable of, you are out of luck. I'm suggesting 1024X768 is incorrect.
[03:06] <Rexter> chaotix; I'll bet it's native resolution is at least 1366X768.
[03:06] <locoloco> chaotix: take a look at the xrandr link I pasted above
[03:08] <linuxuz3r> my vmware client windows 7 is slow how can i make it faster
[03:08] <Rexter> locoloco; is xrandr specific to AMD graphics chipset?
[03:09] <Beldar> linuxuz3r, vmware and W7 is no where near ubuntu related.
[03:10] <kalakjsd> hi all , i am running ubuntu 12.04 LTS and is there any way to fast detect modem by modem-manager(Network manager), sakis 3g does this work, but modem manager doesn't, why? and   it does not get detected at all, untill i reinsert modem
[03:11] <kalakjsd> i have also edited /etc/modules to load option and usbserial modules at boot
[03:11] <locoloco> Rexter: a terminal utility to experiment with resolution settings
[03:11] <kalakjsd> still no luck, i also tried to edit /etc/rc.local
[03:11] <kalakjsd> no luck
[03:11] <kalakjsd> how to solve that problem
[03:11] <locoloco> Rexter: more here --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[03:13] <Rexter> Beldar, locoloco; xrandr shows max resolution 32767 x 32767 but or course that's higher than my monitor. Is there a command or a config file I can edit to set it to 1600X1200?
[03:14] <chris901> are there any programmers in here?
[03:14] <Beldar> Rexter, try xrandr -s 1600x1200
[03:14] <Beldar> Rexter, if the screen blacks out it will return to what is there shortly
[03:15] <chris901> wherer can I get a compiler for Ultimate Edition?
[03:15] <kalakjsd> Rexter: what ubuntu version you are running
[03:15] <chris901> 13.04
[03:16] <cfhowlett> chris901, ask the ultimateedition channel - not supported here
[03:16] <cfhowlett> !derivativdes
[03:16] <kalakjsd> Rexter: type display in unity dash and change the resolution
[03:16] <cfhowlett> !derivatives
[03:16] <comp__> .
[03:16] <Rexter> Beldar; "Size 1600x1200 not found in available modes" in that article you pointed to, I saw I need to somehow build the mode, right?
[03:16] <Rexter> kalakjsd; 13.10
[03:16] <Beldar> Rexter, NOt sure I have not really had to mess around there is all.
[03:17] <kalakjsd> Rexter: type display in unity and click on displays> change to suitable sizes that are available
[03:18] <Rexter> kalakjsd; 1024X768 is the max available. Monitor is shown as unknown. Monitor native resolution is 1600X122, but it's not seen correctly.
[03:18] <kalakjsd> hmm, what graphics card you have
[03:19] <Rexter> kalakjsd; 1600X1200
[03:19] <kalakjsd> Rexter: what graphics card you have
[03:19] <Beldar> Rexter, what is the exact model on the monitor?
[03:20] <Rexter> Beldar; Samsung SyncMaster 213T
[03:20] <Beldar> Rexter, run lsusb if it is a usb
[03:20] <locoloco> Rexter: the wiki entry on wiki.ubuntu.com is jam-packed with examples for setting up a profile
[03:21] <Beldar> Rexter,does it plugin in usb?
[03:21] <Beldar> check if lsusb goces more info though
[03:21] <Beldar> gives
[03:22] <Rexter> beldar, kalakjsd; http://pastebin.com/G640RuvE
[03:22] <kalakjsd> Rexter: i think this is the problem with graphics, because once i was have a SIS mirage graphics , and available resolution was only 800x600 on my laptop
[03:22] <Rexter> Beldar, no VGA
[03:24] <Beldar> Rexter, I see a linux reference in this manual, since it is not recognized a driver or setting up is needed I would assume. http://www.rcc.ryerson.ca/media/213tmanual.pdf
[03:24] <mosquito520> Hi, Does anyone know how to connect multiple WLAN by single Wireless device?? I've found a command "ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ath0", but It doesn't work on my enviroment(ubuntu 13.10), and I have no idea does that command depend on kernerl version? distro version? or wifi driver???
[03:26] <Trace_> Hey is there anyone that can help me with some dependency issues? apt-get -f install is not working
[03:26] <Rexter> Beldar; are you referring to this? http://pastebin.com/fFnaqh5r
[03:27] <locoloco> Rexter: worked up a VGA profile... adjust settings as you see fit http://paste.ubuntu.com/6512550/
[03:28] <Beldar> Rexter, I sent you a manual on that monitor. What I am finding though is very little on linux and even less on ubuntu on the web is all.
[03:28] <Beldar> for that exact monitor
[03:29] <Rexter> locoloco; so change the 1366X768 to native resolution 1600X1200? And put this in what config?
[03:30] <trism> Trace_: pastebin the errors
[03:30] <locoloco> Rexter: correct, alter the settings and simply run in Terminal. If the new settings fit your screen you could always add the script to startup.
[03:31] <Rexter> locoloco; could I add this to the xorg config somehow?
[03:32] <Trace_> http://pastebin.com/K5Ba07xn and apt-get -f install does the same thin
[03:32] <geekmasterflash> Trace_, Whoa, webmin?
[03:32] <locoloco> Rexter: good question...
[03:32] <zykotick9> !webmin | Trace_
[03:33] <Trace_> well that would certainly explain it
[03:34] <maestrojed> I have a need to temporarily use Ubuntu 9.x. It seems I can't install openssh-server because the repositories are closed. Do I have any options?
[03:34] <Trace_> now it wont let me install anything, any idea how to fix that?
[03:34] <locoloco> Rexter: I use /etc/rc.local for that kinda stuff
[03:34] <AndreYonadam> I have a quick opinion question guys. So as you know the new Macbook only has two usb ports, should I get an SDXC card for extra memory or a flash drive?
[03:35] <chutney> AndreYonadamm why not get a usb hub, then have as many ports as you like?
[03:35] <nariamm> i need help connecting my printer
[03:36] <AndreYonadam> chutney: wouldn't it reduce speed. plus it consumes space.
[03:36] <Trace_> or does anyone know a good alternative to webmin that will work?
[03:37] <chutney> AndreYonadam, I've seen some very smal usb hubs
[03:38] <chutney> AndreYonadam, these days they aren't much bigger than the ports they provide
[03:38] <AndreYonadam> For real?
[03:38] <AndreYonadam> I'm going to look into that.
[03:38] <chutney> yes
[03:39] <cfhowlett> !who
[03:41] <Rexter> locoloco; I tried 1600X1200, but it set it to 1368X768, I don't know where that came from, but we are making progress!
[03:41] <Trace_> ubottu, do  you know a good alternative to webmin
[03:42] <Beldar> maestrojed, 9. anything is not calling to the main ubuntu repos
[03:42] <Rexter> locoloco; I don't understand all the numbers in this command: xrandr --newmode "1280x1024_60.00"   85.25  1368 1440 1576 1784  768 771 781 798 -hsync +vsync
[03:42] <Coryn> installing chromium does not install any weirdware outside the actual application (like google's product on iOS that hacked into safari and other things) does it?
[03:42] <AndreYonadam> Trace_: Cpanel
[03:42] <AndreYonadam> lol
[03:42] <xangua> Coryn: no
[03:42] <Trace_> AndreYonadam i was looking for a free one
[03:42] <AndreYonadam> kloxo?
[03:42] <AndreYonadam> I think it had security problems though
[03:42] <AndreYonadam> not sure if it still does
[03:43] <maestrojed> Beldar I don't know a lot about this stuff. Can I switch to a different source? One that would have openssh-server?
[03:43] <AndreYonadam> What's wrong with webmin
[03:43] <AndreYonadam> softacolous actually has their own
[03:43] <jpds> !webmin | AndreYonadam
[03:43] <Beldar> maestrojed, what forces you do use a end of release setup?
[03:43] <AndreYonadam> is ubottu actually a bot
[03:43] <AndreYonadam> ?
[03:44] <Techman|Hex> Yes
[03:44] <jpds> !bot | AndreYonadam
[03:44] <locoloco> Rexter: Okay, see how the script calls for running the command cvt for the x and y resolution?
[03:44] <nariamm> pri ter help?
[03:44] <locoloco> you have to do that first
[03:45] <Trace_> geekmasterflash, do you know a good free alternative to webmin that is supported?
[03:45] <Rexter> locoloco; I see how I have it all messed up, but I don't understand the syntax.
[03:45] <maestrojed> Beldar its a long story but in short we need to mirror an environment that existed with a project was mothballed years ago but is now needed for a one-time, temporary need
[03:45] <locoloco> nariamm: need to give us bit more to go on? Brand printer? Model? USB or Network connection?
[03:45] <cfhowlett> maestrojed, ah yes.  the emergency Y2K encoders problem
[03:45] <cfhowlett> !details|nariamm,
[03:46] <geekmasterflash> Trace_, Zentyal is what I use
[03:46] <Beldar> maestrojed, Not sure myself on a repo link others may know.
[03:47] <nariamm> locoloco: its a cannon pixma mx452 ubuntu 13.10 64 bit and its a network printer
[03:47] <Trace_> geekmasterflash, thank you
[03:47] <locoloco> Rexter: np, one step at a time. Pls read through both the Arch and Ubuntu wiki's
[03:47] <maestrojed> cfhowlett why does it matter the business reasons for needing this. The technical issue is what I stated and what I need help with. I need to install openssh-server on an old version of Ubuntu (9.x) when I try with apt-get all the repos are closed. Can I use other repos? What can I do?
[03:48] <maestrojed> Beldar ok, thanks
[03:48] <Rexter> locoloco; lol thanks for all the help. Please refrain from the n
[03:49] <cfhowlett> maestrojed, I was being unhelpful and made a random comment.  apologies.  (self-slap administered)  I would think you get the needed package from the package site and dpkg -i, right?
[03:49] <locoloco> nariamm: and you are looking to connect over wired or wireless network? Are there drivers avail from Canon's website?
[03:49] <Beldar> maestrojed, As a heads up though eol's are not supported here, that does not mean though that you will get no help.
[03:49] <Rexter> locoloco; lol thanks for all the help. Please refrain from the RTFM post. I just need help with the specific command to set mod to 1600x1200.]
[03:49] <maestrojed> Beldar understood. No prob
[03:49] <Beldar> ;)
[03:51] <locoloco> Rexter: pardon, didn't mean to come across like a RTFM poster! Just that they hold a lot of info with regard to what each step of xrandr does
[03:51] <maestrojed> cfhowlett yeah. no worries. Sorry too. This has been a frustrating endeavor. And by endeavor I mean the "business reasons" :). Yeah, I guess so. I was hoping there were backed-up mirrored repo of old stuff or something
[03:52] <locoloco> Rexter: all trying to assist as best we can to help solve the issues in the channel.
[03:52] <cfhowlett> maestrojed, well the original 9.# iso is available.  you'd probably have to scrounge thru the package site to find their old versions
[03:53] <NCS_One> hi
[03:53] <Rexter> locoloco; I will, for sure check it out. If you, or someone could be so kind to take one the next step. This command xrandr --newmode "1368x768_60.00"   85.25  1368 1440 1576 1784  768 771 781 798 -hsync +vsync : this create the mode for 1368x768. I need 1600x1200 75Hz. I just don't understand the syntax quite enough to modify it/
[03:53] <NCS_One> what does it mean "%F" on "vim -f %F"?
[03:54] <Beldar> maestrojed, This info is for eol upgrades I believe but I think you can use them as a source cfhowlett might be able to conform this. http://pogidude.com/2013/how-to-install-packages-for-end-of-life-ubuntu-editions/
[03:54] <Beldar> confirm
[03:54] <maestrojed> cfhowlett Beldar  okay, thanks
[03:54] <cfhowlett> Beldar, good find - exactly what I was looking for.  Your googlefu is unstoppable!
[03:55] <locoloco> Rexter: sure, first, did you run "cvt 1600 1200"
[03:55] <Beldar> cfhowlett, In spite of my attitude, hehe I'm here to serve. ;)
[03:55] <Rexter> locoloco; and you rock! I would have  never been so close without you.
[03:55] <tgm4883> Does USB disk creator actually work? It seems everytime I try to create a startup disk with it it fails with some DBUS error
[03:56] <Rexter> locoloco; no I don't see that in the script, you so kindly made for me.
[03:57] <Rexter> locolco; or I don't understand the question.
[03:57] <locoloco> Rexter: right, that part was commented out
[03:58] <locoloco> Rexter: in the Terminal, issue the command   cvt 1600 1200
[03:59] <Rexter> locoloco; Ok I see the resolution I want listed, but what did that do?
[04:00] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, yes it works.
[04:00] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, perhaps try unetbootin as an alternative
[04:00] <tgm4883> cfhowlett, anything special I need to do to the USB stick first?
[04:00] <josue> hi, i need a non-pae kernel to my pc, anybody can help me
[04:01] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, SAME usb stick fails?  They do break.  Try a diff. stick
[04:01] <tgm4883> cfhowlett, I've tried that as well, while that at least finishes, it doesn't seem to create a bootable ubuntu USB
[04:01] <locoloco> Rexter: good, now see how the script calls for defining a newmode for xrandr?
[04:01] <tgm4883> cfhowlett, I've tried 2 now
[04:01] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, verify the ISO?
[04:01] <tgm4883> let me see if I can find a third
[04:01] <tgm4883> cfhowlett, downloaded the torrent, ISO should be fine
[04:01] <Rexter> locoloco; yes, but there are so many numbers, i don't see how they all fit together.
[04:01] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, yeah but ... DID you verify?  :)
[04:02] <Rexter> locoloco; and I don't see the relation to cvt 166 1200
[04:02] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, do the math: 60 seconds in the terminal to make sure you've got good input ...
[04:02] <Rexter> I mean 1600 1200
[04:02] <tgm4883> cfhowlett, no... I didn't verify the MD5SUM of the ISO I downloaded.... That is done by the torrent. But Ok, give me a few seconds
[04:02] <locoloco> Rexter: what does the Terminal print?
[04:02] <mikedevita> anyone familiar with upstarts
[04:03] <Rexter> locoloco; # 1600x1200 59.87 Hz (CVT 1.92M3) hsync: 74.54 kHz; pclk: 161.00 MHz
[04:03] <Rexter> Modeline "1600x1200_60.00"  161.00  1600 1712 1880 2160  1200 1203 1207 1245 -hsync +vsync
[04:03] <locoloco> Rexter: perfect!
[04:03] <Rexter> locoloco; what is all this " 1600 1712 1880 2160  1200 1203 1207 1245 -hsync +vsync"
[04:03] <tgm4883> cfhowlett, ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso: OK
[04:04] <mikedevita> ive discoverd if you define env variables in ~/.bashrc for root user, they dont work when using upstarts
[04:04] <mikedevita> am i missing something?
[04:04] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, and you're creating the USB on a 64 bit machine?
[04:04] <tgm4883> cfhowlett, yes
[04:04] <ldlework> Is there a commandline version of nm-applet?
[04:04] <locoloco> Rexter: don't get me wrong but you ought to be able to read about those digits... in the manual
[04:05] <locoloco> ;-)
[04:05] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, eh ..... try a different port for the usb
[04:05] <maestrojed> Yeah!!! Guess whats installing!! openssh! Thanks cfhowlett Beldar
[04:05] <tgm4883> cfhowlett, I'm going to attempt a reboot too, just for fun. Back in a sec
[04:05] <Beldar> maestrojed, cool.
[04:05] <cfhowlett> maestrojed, outstanding.   please consider upgrading to  a supported distro.
[04:05] <LinoSP> someones knows about programmimg a simple app in asterisk
[04:06] <LinoSP> or where to find examples
[04:06] <locoloco> Rexter: next step will be to type  xrandr --newmode followed by that string of numbers that the Terminal spit out before.
[04:06] <maestrojed> cfhowlett this machine is going to live for less than a week :) thx again
[04:06] <cfhowlett> maestrojed, have fun, be safe
[04:06] <MarGul> When I installed PHP and MySQL on my server everything stopped working. I cannot connect to my server any more. I have doubbled checked that I still forward port 80 and that my static IP is the same. All is good it just stopped working after isntalling PHP and MySQL. Anyone have any clue? ;/
[04:06] <human_like> How many gigs of ram will ubuntu 12.04 support or recognize?
[04:07] <cfhowlett> human_like, upper limit?  never seen one stated
[04:07] <Rexter> locoloco; no that's cool. I will but I'm about out of time for now, and I need to get this set tonight. If you would be so kind. The script you created worked fine, except I don't understand how to change it from 1368x768 to 1600x1200 75Hz.
[04:07] <ObrienDave> human_like, that would depend on your BIOS limits
[04:07] <locoloco> Rexter: at the terminal, type    xrandr --newmode "1600x1200_60.00"  161.00  1600 1712 1880 2160  1200 1203 1207 1245 -hsync +vsync
[04:08] <Rexter> locoloco; I realize you are trying to help me better understand what this is doing, I appreciate that.
[04:08] <human_like> care to take a guess on an average limit?
[04:09] <locoloco> Rexter: np, you're very welcome! glad to help!
[04:09] <rypervenche> human_like: Depends also on your file system, but it's quite a lot.
[04:09] <cfhowlett> human_like, given that users are hooking up multi-cpu/core machines, I would *GUESS* ... unlimited?
[04:09] <ObrienDave> human_like, it depends on your computer. my laptop, 8GB. My compaq workstation, 12GB
[04:09] <rypervenche> errr kernel
[04:10] <human_like> thanks thats all i need to know
[04:10] <locoloco> Rexter: did you type that line at the prompt?  xrandr --newmode "1600x1200_60.00"  161.00  1600 1712 1880 2160  1200 1203 1207 1245 -hsync +vsync
[04:10] <xangua> (22:09:55) ObrienDave: human_like, it depends on your computer.
[04:11] <tgm4883> human_like, theoretically 16 exabytes of RAM
[04:11] <ObrienDave> xangua, that's what i've been trying to tell human_like ;)
[04:11] <human_like> thats cool
[04:12] <tgm4883> cfhowlett, I think something gets hung up on this laptop sometimes. reboot and it works again. Let me see if it boots this other system
[04:14] <Rexter> locoloco; but I'm looking for 75 Hz
[04:15] <locoloco> Rexter: let's go with what cvt gave us first.
[04:15] <Blue22> hey I've done everything in the start manual but I really cant make sense of how to get my usb ubuntu boot to work, I made one with linuxpendrive is there a different way I should do it?
[04:15] <tgm4883> cfhowlett, yep, looks good. Installing now. Thanks for the input
[04:16] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, have fun, be safe
[04:16] <Rexter> locoloco; ok so the next command in your script xrandr --addmode VGA1 1368x768_60.00 can I change it to 1600x1200_60.00?
[04:17] <tgm4883> cfhowlett, not sure I can do that. I just installed a video card that is bigger than my first motherboard
[04:17] <LinoSP> someone knows about programmimg a simple app in asterisk or where to find examples
[04:17] <locoloco> Rexter: correct!
[04:19] <akcin> Good evening all! Is there anyone who might be awesome at troubleshooting a wireless card problem on a EEEPC?
[04:19] <locoloco> Rexter: lastly, issue the xrandr command with the new output mode
[04:19] <akcin> because yes, I still have one of those. ;P
[04:20] <locoloco> Rexter: should look something like    xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1600x1200_60.00
[04:20] <akcin> My poor computer doesn't seem to know that it even has a wireless card in it. And I'm unsure if it's a driver problem... or if it's a hardware problem.
[04:20] <Beldar> akcin, run lspci and identify the wifi hardware to the channel, and the actual issue and any attempts to fix
[04:20] <akcin> I'm clearly hoping the former to be true.
[04:20] <Jordan_U> akcin: Please pastebin the output of "lspci".
[04:22] <akcin> Hmm... the only internet type device there is the ethernet controller... or is that what I'm looking for?
[04:23] <Beldar> akcin, Go ahead and pastebin all of the lspci as suggested.
[04:23] <Coryn> what the actual fuck? I installed chromium on a portable USB, and it took ALL my firefox web history with it. How do I remove the stupid "web-history unity-lens whatever it's called"?
[04:23] <Rexter> locoloco; would this do it?  http://pastebin.com/JfSyJcbD
[04:24] <akcin> Right, just trying to figure out how to copy it from Xterm. ;P
[04:24] <Beldar> !language | Coryn
[04:24] <IdleOne> !nounity
[04:25] <locoloco> Rexter: looks good! Give it a whirl!
[04:25] <Rexter> locoloco; it still sets it to 1368X768
[04:26] <Coryn> IdleOne: so unity is the thing installing the weird privacy intruding things such as that amazon thing?
[04:26] <IdleOne> !adlens
[04:26] <ObrienDave> Rexter, Laptop screen?
[04:26] <Coryn> IdleOne: dude, that was NOT what I asked. Read my question again, ffs.
[04:27] <Rexter> No samsung monitor Syncmanster 213T
[04:27] <IdleOne> Coryn: mind your language and watch your attitude.
[04:27] <Coryn> yes
[04:27] <Coryn> so unity is the thing installing the weird privacy intruding things such as that amazon thing? (note: I'm not asking about how to remove the spyware, but rather about it's source)
[04:27] <IdleOne> if you want to remove the ad/privacy thingy follow the link ubottu just gave you
[04:27] <hemangpatel> hi ubuntu
[04:28] <IdleOne> Corey: essentially, yes.
[04:28] <hemangpatel> Need help in bash script
[04:28] <Coryn> why do chromium know bout my firefox web history?
[04:29] <akcin> Paste from lspci : http://pastebin.com/WhxTHbUZ
[04:30] <hemangpatel> I have two directory with lot's of images. I need to compate two dir and based on diff i want to run imagemagick command on that diff files
[04:33] <akcin> So, am I correct in assuming that this is a hardware problem since it doesn't seem to show up there?
[04:33] <cfhowlett> Coryn, no way.  here's a test.  clear your chromium history.  do some ffox browsing.  reopen chromium to see what shows up.
[04:33] <locoloco> Rexter: what's the output of the xrandr command alone?
[04:34] <cfhowlett> hemangpatel, greetings
[04:34] <ObrienDave> Rexter, what is the monitor connected to?
[04:35] <Coryn> I just want to warn the people here planning to install chromium via ubuntu. It'll copy firefox's cache once when installed. Make sure to clear everything first after chromium is installed.
[04:35] <hemangpatel> cfhowlett, greetings from india
[04:35] <blognewb> coq au vin is chicken bourignon?
[04:35] <Phoenixz> Coryn: the cache? you mean history and bookmarks?
[04:36]  * ObrienDave looks for his foil hat
[04:37] <akcin> is there anyone that can help me? If not, I understand... just wondering if I'm sitting here for a purpose or waiting or whatnot. :P
[04:38] <Beldar> ObrienDave, That always makes the signal cleaner from the mother ship.
[04:38] <Coryn> Phoenixz: history and cache (according to some site)
[04:39] <Coryn> I found my history in the URL list in a fresh install of chromium
[04:39] <Rexter> locoloco; http://pastebin.com/RLHR6c6p
[04:39] <hemangpatel> anyone has idea ? or i'm in wrong channel ?
[04:40] <Phoenixz> Coryn: History I'm sure, but taht is optional, IIRC, it will ask you if you want to do that.. Cache, I doubt it, because for one it would be rather useless...
[04:40] <akcin> Alright, I'll try again tomorrow... I should be in bed by now anyway. Thanks anyway, guys, and have a great night!
[04:41] <cfhowlett> hemangpatel, what's the ubuntu issue you are having?
[04:41] <Phoenixz> Coryn: History, sure, but then again, chrome can store all your history, bookmarks, etc. in a central location, and if you login, it will sync it all
[04:41] <hemangpatel> cfhowlett, I have two directory with lot's of images. I need to compate two dir and based on diff i want to run imagemagick command on that diff files
[04:41] <cfhowlett> Coryn, sounds like you imported from firefox
[04:42] <cfhowlett> hemangpatel, sounds doable.  sadly, my terminal commands aren't up to the level to be of help.  From what I remember, first you'd do the comparison then pipe the output to the imagemagick command
[04:43] <Coryn> cfhowlett: I didn't, ubuntu did it.
[04:43] <Rexter> Locolco; your right on the Hz vertical 60 horizontal 75 at this resolution.
[04:43] <hemangpatel> cfhowlett, no problem thanks
[04:43] <cfhowlett> Coryn, eh, no.  chromium is not ubuntu, nor is firefox.  See your chromium settings ...
[04:43] <Rexter> ObreinDave; a Vostro 220s, if that's what you mean?
[04:44] <Datz> Hi, is there a way to change the grub boot order for a wubi install?
[04:45] <cfhowlett> Datz, probably but ... wubi is dying/dead/unsupported.  consider dual booting
[04:45] <Coryn> cfhowlett: I installed it via the software center (ubuntu), and that's when it copied half of my firefox profile
[04:45] <Datz> cfhowlett: I can't remember if it's dual boot or wubi actually..
[04:45] <cfhowlett> Coryn, which it does ONLY if you give permission.  on first boot, you're offered the option to import. I'm guessing you said "yes"
[04:46] <Datz> I suppose I should check..
[04:46] <cfhowlett> Coryn, and by "IT" we are discussing chromium NOT ubuntu
[04:46] <Datz> can I check if it's a wubi install while booted to ubuntu?
[04:46] <Coryn> cfhowlett: indeed I did not (I would obviously not want such a thing). it was already there
[04:46] <akcin> real quick... what was the gnome-desktop thing that you told someone else to install just like... five minutes ago?
[04:46] <cfhowlett> Coryn, OK ... well, clear your caches and the problem should be fixed
[04:46] <akcin> I installed it, thinking that you were talking to me... and now I'm super confused.
[04:47] <cfhowlett> !whoakcin,
[04:47] <cfhowlett> !who|akcin,
[04:47] <akcin> Yeah, I don't remember who it was... heh
[04:47] <Rexter> locoloco; well, I'm going to have to call it a night. Any other thoughts?
[04:47] <Datz> cfhowlett: isn't there a directory where I can reorder entries cfhowlett?
[04:48] <cfhowlett> Datz, I don't do wubi anymore - one two many heartaches.  sorry, can't help
[04:48] <Datz> wait, think I found it./etc/default/grub
[04:48] <Datz> ok cfhowlett
[04:49] <Datz> do I have to reboot and check for a wubi install in windows, or is there an easier way?
[04:49] <saliak> I have a question about permissions and shared directories in ubuntu.  I have a directory that's open over a SMB share.  I've assigned a group in my system the owner, and users that are members of that group have write access.  whenever someone makes a file, however, the owner is user:user, rather than user:group (that owns the directory).  as such, it's not really group owned as no one can edit anyone else's stuff in there.  how does one add
[04:49] <saliak> that situation?
[04:50] <delmer> anyone know why when I load a fullscreen game over wine, my monitor stops displaying? is it trying to open in a resolution that isn't supported? Is their a way to force a game in wine to launch at a certain resolution?
[04:51] <locoloco> Rexter: I'll take a closer look at the output and perhaps we reconnect tomorrow?
[04:51] <v1c3> is the menu in the windows instead of the panel or do i have a bug?
[04:52] <v1c3> talking about saucy
[04:53] <Jordan_U> Datz: Pastebin the contents of /proc/mounts and I can tell you if you have a Wubi or normal install.
[04:53] <Coryn> is sshd safe to have?
[04:53] <ObrienDave> Rexter, meant laptop video port or video card
[04:54] <locoloco> ObrienDave: Rexter seem to have left us.
[04:54] <ObrienDave> ok, tnx
[04:55] <locoloco> ObrienDave: should be video card
[04:57] <ObrienDave> locoloco, was asking because 1368x768 is same rez as my laptop
[04:59] <locoloco> ObrienDave: mine too, used xrandr command in the passed to connect TV via VGA and thought the lessons learned could be applied
[04:59] <Zelbinian> Hey guys. So, I've installed proprietary AMD drivers for my Radeon card and now Unity won't launch :|
[05:00] <wafflejock> !ati | Zelbinian
[05:00] <Zelbinian> Well, yes, I followed those and now I am at the "Help!" step because something went wrong :p
[05:01] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: have you done the steps under "How to recover a non-booting system due to driver malfunction" ?
[05:01] <Zelbinian> No, because it does boot, it just doesn't load Unity. But I'll look at those.
[05:02] <Datz> Jordan_U: thanks, but I figured it out. reorder numerical order of files in /etc/grub.d/
[05:02] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: yeah sorry don't have ATI so can't giveyou any more details really but those steps are to roll back the driver install so it may still help for the time being
[05:02] <Datz> cfhowlett^
[05:02] <Jordan_U> Datz: That is not recommended as it will break updating of those files when there are upgrades in the future.
[05:03] <cfhowlett> Datz, ok.  but look into the dual boot option.  Wubi failures are a huuuuuuge PITA and as it's a dying project ...
[05:03] <Jordan_U> Datz: Why do you want entries re-ordered?
[05:03] <Datz> so it doesn't boot to windows by default
[05:03] <Zelbinian> Ugh, it says press escape at the GRUB bootloader but it's not exactly clear when that happens when I reboot my system...
[05:03] <cfhowlett> Datz, easy fix.  increase your grub wait time so you can choose
[05:04] <Datz> I can choose, grub wait time is long enough
[05:04] <Jordan_U> Datz: You do that by editing the GRUB_DEFAULT option in /etc/default/grub, not by changing anything in /etc/grub.d/. I highly recommend that you revert all the changes you made to /etc/grub.d/.
[05:04] <Datz> humm, I've been using that method for quite awhile with no problems, I just forgot what I did
[05:05] <Zelbinian> Ok, so, I can't seem to get to recovery mode. Can I do this with a live CD?
[05:06] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[05:06] <wafflejock> right after the bios loads hold shift and you should see grub
[05:07] <delmer> 1
[05:07] <Datz> Jordan_U: what kind of upgrades will it break?
[05:08] <Datz> oh, updates to grub I suppose
[05:08] <wafflejock> Datz: man update-grub
[05:08] <Datz> eh, it'll probability just revert eh
[05:08] <Datz> wafflejock: yes, I just ran that
[05:09] <Zelbinian> Ah, ty, wafflejock
[05:09] <wafflejock> Datz: yeah so that gets run after certain system updates like you said
[05:09] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: np good luck there video problems can be a pain
[05:10] <wafflejock> Datz: and it regenerates the grub configuration that actually gets used so like others are suggesting here editing those output configuration files isn't best since they'll get wiped out later and you may forget what you did here to fix it and will have to do it again
[05:11] <Datz> wafflejock: I had to run update-grub for my changes to take place actually
[05:11] <Zelbinian> Ok, so I'm looking at these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto#How_to_recover_a_non-booting_system_due_to_driver_malfunction
[05:12] <wafflejock> Datz: ah k well I dropped in about half way through that conversation anyhow, but if that's the case I think you're in good shape Jordan_U or others I'm sure can confirm
[05:12] <Zelbinian> But during the "sh" step, I get an error that says "sh: 0: Can't open ./fglrx-uninstall.sh"
[05:12] <ldlework> Is there a way to reduce the area where a synaptics touchpad will respond?
[05:12] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: did you navigate to the ati folder?
[05:12] <Zelbinian> I did
[05:13] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: if so do an ls -al in there to see what else is in there if not the uninstall script
[05:13] <ldlework> IOW, cause the touchpad to ignore touching outside a certain range, for example?
[05:13] <Datz> well, there may be some longevity issues with my good shape as far as they are concerned wafflejock :P
[05:13] <Zelbinian> There's two directories: amdcccle and lib64
[05:13] <Zelbinian> I guess the AMD driver must have changed since those instructions were written
[05:14] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: yeah must be...
[05:16] <Zelbinian> Remind me of the command to make the output in the terminal load one screen at a time?
[05:16] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: you can use dpkg -L fglrx-amdcccle to see what's in the package
[05:16] <MarGul> I have tried to google how to sftp upload files to my ubuntu-server with no luck. I've been trying the put command but can't get it to work. I use ubuntu 12.04 as my client. Anybody know a good GUI app for sftp transfer?
[05:16] <wafflejock> | less
[05:16] <wafflejock> like cat error.log | less
[05:17] <Zelbinian> Thanks
[05:17] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: sure thing
[05:18] <Zelbinian> Can I pipe that into a grep to look for only the files that have .sh ?
[05:18] <wafflejock> MarGul: does Filezilla not work?
[05:18] <zzxc>  Anyone know a good way from commandline to search all of the ip address in a range to see if a device is connected
[05:18] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: yeah ls -al | grep .sh          should work
[05:19] <hw_> test
[05:19] <wafflejock> hw_: It Works!
[05:19] <hw_> thanks
[05:19] <zzxc> hw_: weclome to the channel.
[05:20] <wafflejock> zzxc: I think nmap will do it
[05:20] <MarGul> wafflejock: Thanks Im gonna look it up
[05:20] <wafflejock> zzxc: I'm not sure what the command would look like though
[05:21] <Zelbinian> Great. There doesn't seem to be an uninstall file.
[05:21] <Zelbinian> I don't know what to do now except reinstall.
[05:21] <Zelbinian> (This is why installing proprietary drivers were the first thing I did...)
[05:22] <zzxc> wafflejock: Yeah I've been poking around it, its doing a full detail on everything and what ports each machine is using. So It's a little slow.
[05:23] <wafflejock> zzxc: nmap 192.168.11.0-255 -p22
[05:23] <wafflejock> that did it for just port 22 which was like 2.5 seconds on my network
[05:24] <zzxc> Ack. Well I answered my primary question, anywho. I have a headless home server that got reset while I was out of town, now its hanging when I try booting up and I'm not sure where at.
[05:24] <zzxc> wafflejock: Isn't 22 telenet?
[05:24] <wafflejock> zzxc: ssh
[05:25] <wafflejock> I have a raspberry pi and a few other things with open ssh on my network but it shows all the other devices too from what I can tell
[05:25] <zzxc> wafflejock: Mmmm 23 is telnet. I thought ssh was 21 but thats ftp.
[05:25] <wafflejock> zzxc: yeah lots of important stuff right around there
[05:26] <zzxc> wafflejock: yep. Theres a reason its in the lower set.
[05:27] <zzxc> I'd be interested if they ever try and repurpose the lower numbers, It would be a terrible idea, but there is nothing preventing it, and a lot of them aren't really used anymore.
[05:28] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: I'd say try the remove/purge as suggested with apt-get in the instructions there, do the dpkg-reconfigure try the reboot, if not try editing xorg.conf directly then reboot
[05:28] <zzxc> wafflejock: Ohhhh did you here about the telnet-pocalyptics issue?
[05:28] <Zelbinian> So just remove, forgoing the uninstall script, cool.
[05:28] <wafflejock> zzxc: nope what's that about?
[05:28] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: yeah I think it's your best bet right now
[05:29] <Zelbinian> Oh good grief, the ati directory doesn't exist under /etc
[05:29] <Zelbinian> What the heck happened with this install?
[05:30] <Zelbinian> Wait, nevermind, there it is
[05:30] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: well they could have just changed it like you said and the docs are out of date, though again not an ATI user so I'm not sure, I have intel graphics (not incredible) in my laptop and a nice GTX 670 in the desktop but abandoned ATI because I've always had trouble with the Linux drivers
[05:30] <Zelbinian> Welp, I've got an AMD processor so... those boards tend to work best with AMD cards. How it rolls.
[05:31] <wafflejock> indeed
[05:31] <samuraibsd> There's really nothing wrong with AMD GPUs under Ubuntu
[05:31] <samuraibsd> At least as far as my experience goes
[05:31] <wafflejock> samuraibsd: yeah I mean I'm talking like 5 years ago or something, things are probably better now
[05:31] <Damon> Hey I need some help, I made a usb stick to install ubuntu, when I installed it got 3/4th the way through then said I had a fatal grub2 error and froze before I could send bug report. I formatted the usb stick and am using unetbootin to make another now, is there anything I should do before attempting to install ubuntu again? (I want a dual windows/linux setup)
[05:32] <Zelbinian> wafflejock: The remove command is complaining about the "-purge" flag
[05:32] <samuraibsd> wafflejock: Yeah, things have changed considerably as of late. Even the open source drivers are giving me pretty reliably good performance
[05:33] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: wow yeah that looks wrong... it should be sudo apt-get purge fglrx-amdcccle
[05:33] <wafflejock> apt-get remove just gets rid of binaries leaving config
[05:33] <wafflejock> purge gets rid of both
[05:33] <Damon> like do I need to reformat the partition I tried to install ubuntu on?
[05:33] <cfhowlett> Damon, verify your ISO
[05:33] <zzxc> wafflejock: There was a paper published a while ago from a un-named grad student basically stating was poking around and started scanning for machines accepting port 23 handshakes.
[05:33] <cfhowlett> Damon, and assume that the previous install is hopelessly scrambled.  start over
[05:34] <Zelbinian> wafflejock: Thanks. Friggin' wikis, huh? :p
[05:34] <Damon> right but if I have a good iso its fine and I dont need to somehow clean up the old one right?
[05:34] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: yeah I suppose I should try to correct these things instead of just complaining, but too lazy right now :P
[05:34] <cfhowlett> Damon, if you made a USB with a bad ISO, you're gonna have a bad time
[05:35] <Damon> deleting it from the usb and reformatting the usb is enough right?
[05:35] <Guest36218> I have dual boot Ubuntu 13.04 and 13.10.  I dont want the 13.10 version anymore.  Can I just delete its partition and I will still boot into GRUB?
[05:35] <Zelbinian> This line "nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" opens a new file... that seems wrong...
[05:36] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: yeah think xorg.conf has moved... last edit on this doc was 12/16/2012
[05:36] <zzxc> wafflejock: (from the open net). they then tried the default debian user and password for telnet and got though to a good number of machines. Then basically uploaded a script to countine to search, try to login, and upload the script if it worked.
[05:36] <cfhowlett> Damon, delete and reformat
[05:36] <Damon> whole HD or just the USB?
[05:36] <Zelbinian> Cool, tracking it down
[05:36] <wafflejock> zzxc: huh that's pretty wild I'm not really too surprised though, lots of people set things up and think well I'll never be a target etc. etc.
[05:37] <samuraibsd> Has anyone run into gnome tweak tool crashing at launch on Gnome 3.8 with Ubuntu 13.04?
[05:37] <zzxc> wafflejock: (also included load balancers, and a way to access the machines).
[05:38] <cfhowlett> Damon, slow done, son.  3 steps here.  ONE: make a good USB to boot.  TWO: boot the USB  THREE: reformat the broken install on your HDD as you install again.
[05:38] <MarGul> wafflejock: Got filezilla installed and logged into my server. When I try and transfer my files to /usr/share/nginx/html I get an error with filepermission. On my client the files have 777. Is it because Im not logged in as root through sftp?
[05:39] <wafflejock> MarGul: you'll need to have permissions to write to whatever directory server side the client side permissions shouldn't really matter
[05:39] <zzxc> wafflejock: Yeah I know, but the crazy part was the scale of it. Granted a large number of machines were basically printers, old machines, routers, etc, but t
[05:39] <Zelbinian> wafflejock: Someone's answer on a the Unix stack exchange: "The modern implementations of Xorg doesn't need a xorg.conf file, the configuration is automatic. And the correct place for the xorg.conf file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf."
[05:39] <Zelbinian> Is that correct?
[05:40] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: I'm not a good one to ask on that, I know it has changed but I'm unsure of the details trying to read up on it here myself
[05:40] <Damon> cfhowlett - AHHH gotcha I have a couple more questions, 1. i got last iso from ubuntu website then made usb with unetbootin, now im downloading 12.04 LiveX64 with the built in download within unetbootin, thats 12.04 LST right? 2. How do I reformat once I boot with good usb? Like do I have to do a custom install?
[05:40] <Zelbinian> Gotcha. Well, we'll see what happens.
[05:41] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[05:41] <MarGul> wafflejock: okey that was that I figured. Can I set those file permissions through filezilla or I have to set the permissions with my account for the server?
[05:41] <Zelbinian> I installed the drivers with the command line method, but now I'm thinking those instructions are probably out of date, too.
[05:41] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: it looks like it has all been split up but I'm not sure of the relevance of the xorg.conf file now if it's still loaded if present and what precedence it gets
[05:41] <ilteris> hi everyone, I would appreciate if someone guides me what I am missing here: https://gist.github.com/ilteris/933f969acb1e3b92e279
[05:41] <wafflejock> MarGul: You'll have to be ssh'ed into the server to be able to change the permissions
[05:42] <ruby_on_tails> i have a gfx card with one monitor output, is it possible to have a 2 monitor display using that and the default motherboard monitor out on ubuntu?
[05:42] <zzxc> wafflejock: but there were 10's of millions of machines that were open, but that means that there is a huge botnet that is completely open to anyone who could do some basic scripting, that will probably never be fixed.
[05:42] <wafflejock> MarGul: depending on what you're doing it might be best to add the user to a group and give the group write permissions to the folder
[05:42] <wafflejock> zzxc: wow, well that kinda sucks, unless you need to DoS the bad guys :)
[05:42] <Zelbinian> wafflejock: It's cool. I think I'm just gonna reinstall the OS if I can't fix it through the recovery options
[05:43] <MarGul> wafflejock: Okey, for security reasons I just want my user, the only user on the system that can log in with ssh, to have the permissions. On it now , thanks for the help :)
[05:44] <wafflejock> MarGul: sure thing if you're concerned with security too you may want to consider going passwordless and using ssh keys if you're not already
[05:45] <MarGul> wafflejock: Yes Im doing that already. Just need to figure out to set the filepermissions for my account and I guess it should be all good
[05:46] <wafflejock> MarGul: yeah should be, I had to tinker with that as well after setting up vsftpd on my server, but eventually got it mostly sorted and working fine
[05:46] <Damon> is ubuntu 12.04 Live, the same thing as 12.04 LST?
[05:47] <ruby_on_tails> anyone?
[05:47] <xangua> Damon: ubuntu 12.04 is LTS
[05:47] <Damon> thanks
[05:48] <Damon> I had a bad install from I guess a bad .iso, once I make another USB stick to install in how exactly do I reformat the partition I want to put 12.04 on?
[05:49] <MarGul> wafflejock: is it sudo chmod -R u+rw /usr/share/nginx/html for just giving my user permissions or I will have to change to owner of the dir?
[05:49] <wafflejock> MarGul: you have to be owner as well the u will apply to whoever owns the file
[05:49] <Zelbinian> waff
[05:49] <Zelbinian> Grr
[05:50] <Zelbinian> wafflejock: Would you recommend just straight up deleting the /usr/share/ati directory?
[05:50] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: I don't think it will really help anything
[05:50] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: I feel like you just want to make sure that X isn't using the radeon driver but I'm not sure exactly where to point you to fix that
[05:51] <Zelbinian> wafflejock: Ok, then. Bulldozing seems like the easiest solution at this point. Thanks for trying to help!
[05:52] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution <-- these seem to sort of point at where the xorg conf parts are at but just not sure what you'd need to change at this point to get back to your default drivers
[05:52] <cfhowlett> Damon, depends on the tool you're using; ubuntustartupdisk creator?
[05:53] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: also np hope you can still get it resolved somehow or a wipe isn't too big a deal, just be sure to back up any important files if it comes down to that
[05:53] <Zelbinian> wafflejock: This is a fresh install. No big deal at all, just another half an hour out of my life. Like I said, this is why I mess with proprietary video drivers first. :)
[05:55] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: haha k cool have a coffee or beer or whatever your into and just take a snapshot after you get everything good if you've got some external storage, clonezilla has been very helpful for me in the past, it gets hardware info and some other stuff then runs dd on a drive/partition and handles everything from a boot iso
[05:55] <Zelbinian> wafflejock: Unfortunately I'm down to one hdd at the moment, but I do have clonezilla
[05:56] <MarGul> wafflejock: I have no changed the permissions so my filetransfer got sucessful. But when I then try and access that file through my browser I get "access denied" :/
[05:56] <Zelbinian> Maybe this time I'll let it auto-update to 13.10
[05:56] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: yeah I'm on 13.10 from a clean install and it's been really solid actually... using Kubuntu though
[05:56] <Damon> cfhowlett im using unetbootin and open to any suggestions
[05:56] <wafflejock> MarGul: yeah so the thing is apache needs to be able to read the file
[05:57] <Zelbinian> wafflejock: I know, I know, I'm one of like, 30 people that actually like Unity
[05:57] <cfhowlett> Damon, format the usb, format the HDD, install
[05:57] <MarGul> wafflejock: Im using nginx
[05:57] <wafflejock> Zelbinian: haha well that's cool I'm sure the Unity developers appreciate it... I really thought Unity was okay but I like all the customization and widgets in KDE, couldn't resist I'm a tweaker
[05:57] <Damon> alright cool formatted the HDD, working on the USB, thanks alot
[05:59] <wafflejock> MarGul: k  I have 0 experience with nginx, but regardless the process that is going to serve up the files needs read access
[05:59] <MarGul> wafflejock: okey, gonna see what Mr.Google says
[06:01] <Isac> Hello
[06:01] <wafflejock> Isac: hello
[06:02] <Isac> shoud I take out all my harddrives but not that one I will install Ubuntu with to not risking install GRUB on my Windows Computer
[06:03] <pixiebit> Hey guys. A few weeks ago most Youtube videos stopped working for me. I don't know how to attempt debugging this or why it has happened, but I'd like to try.
[06:04] <Isac> I don't know why?
[06:04] <pixiebit> Is my computer beyond repair? Should I buy a desktop instead of a laptop? Should I switch to Apple? I don't know anymore.
[06:04] <Isac> do you have Adobe or something like that?
[06:04] <pixiebit> Most Youtube videos only play in Flash, yeah.
[06:04] <Coryn> ssh-id-copy just freezes, and ideas? (ssh to the very same stuff works though)
[06:04] <Foxhoundz> is there a GUI frontend for xset
[06:04] <pixiebit> But I can play some Flash Youtube videos.
[06:04] <Foxhoundz> and how do I save xset settings permanently?
[06:04] <Isac> You can switch to desktop
[06:04] <Foxhoundz> for all users?
[06:05] <Isac> I not reccomend to switch to apple
[06:05] <Isac> Thay are secret
[06:05] <pixiebit> Okay. I'll go buy a desktop immediately.
[06:06] <Isac> If you buy a desktop with good memory and graphic card a desktop would be alot faster
[06:06] <pixiebit> Okay I'll do that. I hope it'll fix my Youtube problem though.
[06:07] <pixiebit> Good thing I don't game at all. Otherwise this might extend to flash games.
[06:07]  * ObrienDave shakes his head and *poofs*
[06:07] <Isac> But ask the mans you are buying frpm what it could be
[06:07] <Isac> But ask the guys you are buying frpm what it could be
[06:07] <pixiebit> waht
[06:07] <Zelbinian> waffle
[06:07] <Isac> But ask the guys you are buying from* what it could be
[06:08] <pixiebit> what what could be
[06:08] <Zelbinian> Well, Unity was targeted at non-Linux people so... not surprised when Linux people gripe :)
[06:08] <Isac> The problem
[06:08] <pixiebit> Yeah I'm sorry I don't know how to debug arbitrary youtube weirdness. I'll just compile everything from source, like Adobe Flash.
[06:09] <Isac> Ok
[06:09] <Isac> need to go
[06:09] <pixiebit> Good thing my new desktop will compile everything faster.
[06:09] <Isac> yes
[06:09] <Isac> If you want games take win
[06:09] <fibz_> what is StartUbuntu?
[06:09] <Isac> If you want games take win dows
[06:10] <Isac> if you want terminal opeen source take ubuntu
[06:10] <pixiebit> Oh man, but I don't even play games.
[06:10] <Isac> if you want terminal and open source take ubuntu
[06:10] <Isac> ok
[06:10] <cfhowlett> fibz_, PR project
[06:11] <pixiebit> ok
[06:11] <Isac> then i reccomend Ubuntu
[06:11] <pixiebit> haha yeah i got ubuntu because I like being open source
[06:11] <fibz_> ok makes more sense now.
[06:11] <Isac> ahh ok
[06:11] <pixiebit> :)
[06:12] <Isac> but theres a programm called wine that you can download and with that run .exe files.
[06:12] <Isac> but theres a programm called wine that you can download and with that run .exe files.
[06:12] <MarGul> how will I give two users read permissions in a folder? Is that done with groups?
[06:13] <Isac> Goodbye
[06:13] <cfhowlett> Isac, SOME .exe files
[06:13] <pixiebit> oh yeah i have wine so i can play all my games
[06:13] <pixiebit> like starcraft 2
[06:13] <Isac> Yers
[06:13] <Isac> yes
[06:13] <Isac> Yes some of them
[06:13] <Isac> not all
[06:13] <kevin__> My name is Kevin Robert Chopra...I dont have anyone in my life and i'm not looking for sympathy I just wanted some people to know that I have made the decision to end my life through starvation.  About the right time of year also
[06:14] <wafflejock> MarGul: yeah you can either have multiple users be in a group and give the group some particular permissions, or you can just give others read permission as well
[06:14] <pixiebit> kevin pls don't die
[06:14] <pixiebit> donate ur organs to charity first
[06:14] <cfhowlett> kevin__, so you came to ubuntu ... seems legit
[06:14] <Isac> No kevin
[06:14] <Isac> we like you :)
[06:15] <Isac> need to go
[06:15] <kevin__> I'm very serious, thank you for acknowledging
[06:16] <MarGul> wafflejock: Thanks, giving others read permission worked. That should not be a security risk right? Because I mean it can only read the files
[06:16] <samuraibsd> Anyone in here using Gnome 3.8 on 13.04?
[06:17] <xangua> !anyone | samuraibsd
[06:17] <cfhowlett> !anyone|samuraibsd,
[06:18] <samuraibsd> xangua: Thanks, I'm not new. Asking the question is silly without anyone actually using this stuff, since generally I'd get back silence.
[06:18] <wafflejock> MarGul: yeah I have done the same so far on my box too, I believe it's okay for now, as you say it just allows other users who can connect to read those files which I'm not particularly concerned with, keep in mind I'm just another web developer not a security expert
[06:19] <wafflejock> MarGul: beyond file permissions you can protect things with server configuration and the like as well so ultimately it depends on what you're protecting and how you need to protect it (what is the potential for breach and outcome)
[06:20] <MarGul> wafflejock: Same I just try and learn some of the security. First time I'm running my own web server :)
[06:20] <samuraibsd> Anyway, tweak tool crashes immediately and throws up an X Window server error. Can't find any information about it online and reinstalling multiple things hasn't fixed it
[06:21] <wafflejock> MarGul: yeah I set up an AWS box about a year ago but am very happy with doing so, have my own git and all and serving quite a few sites from a micro instance (like 1Ghz proc and 512MB of RAM or so) without issue
[06:22] <wafflejock> MarGul: there are lots of guides out there too http://www.sans.org/score/checklists/linuxchecklist.pdf hardening the server stuff
[06:22] <Jordan_U> samuraibsd: What is the exact error message?
[06:22] <samuraibsd> Gsettings missing key org.gnome.nautilus.dexktop, then a Gdk error...let me figure out how to paste it somewhere
[06:23] <wafflejock> !paste > samuraibsd
[06:24] <MarGul> wafflejock: Yeah I have been reading a lot latly and the thing is that there is so many different security settings. I just want a web server thats more secure then most of the other ones out there. Keeping a web server completly secure would mean taking it off the Internet :)
[06:25] <wafflejock> MarGul: true, but the more you know the better off you are, I do stuff that's DB driven so it's sometimes a concern, don't want prying eyes and can't be storing peoples passwords plaintext and things like that
[06:26] <samuraibsd> Well, that plan won't work. Terminal seems to crash whenever I try to grab the error.
[06:26] <MarGul> wafflejock: Thats true. Gonna first try and set up the server with php and mysql somehow secure and then the rest is done by code. But there is just so many options, dont know when to stop hehe
[06:27] <samuraibsd> Like that.
[06:27] <Jordan_U> samuraibsd: How are you trying to "grab" the error message?
[06:28] <lawl> Hello, all my menu/activity bars are having some odd font-color wich make them hard to read. This occured since i upgraded from 12.04 to 13.04. Maybe iv'e installed some package on the 12.04. Check this picture: http://i42.tinypic.com/2diobgl.jpg
[06:28] <samuraibsd> Jordan_U: Trying to highlight and using the Edit menu causes a crash. I haven't tried the pastebin python script yet
[06:28] <wafflejock> MarGul: yeah I mean between phPass and using SSL and SSH for everything (some sort of firewall) I think you'd have a pretty tight system and so long as you take backups of everything then there's not too much reason to worry unless you need government compliance for security or something... in which case you can pay someone to come help harden the system probably
[06:30] <MarGul> wafflejock: Exactly. Do you know what kind of settings you are using for your php.ini file? I raned the script: https://www.idontplaydarts.com/2011/02/hardening-and-securing-php-on-linux/ . Should be good with that, dont want to lock it down to much either. Prob gonna give me some problems developing in the future
[06:32] <wafflejock> MarGul: I actually haven't fine tuned my php.ini on the server yet I believe it's not very verbose by default anyhow but I don't really have any live sites with DB backing coming from my server, just some development stuff being tested then pushed out to actual live servers atm... would be good to go through and clean that up they suggest in the comments what the values should be for development vs production too
[06:33] <MarGul> wafflejock: Yeah I saw that. Well gonna try and fine tune it now. Hopefully I can get my site up tonight :)
[06:34] <lawl> I only changed the theme in visual settings and it works now thx
[06:34] <wafflejock> MarGul: yeah good luck, once you get one configured the rest is easy peasy, just a matter of getting through the first one
[06:35] <Jay_R> Anyone ever have success getting rid of a half-installed package? Did sudo apt-get install -f, however, subprocess is return a non-zero exit status.
[06:35] <Jay_R> Looks like it's erroring out on trying to delete directory that don't exist. Can post screenshot if it helps.
[06:39] <samuraibsd> Alright, I can't figure out a way to capture the output of this command. Trying to copy out of a terminal window causes terminal to crash and pastebinit won't intercept anything
[06:39] <Jordan_U> Jay_R: Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get -f install" (by posting the text to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com ).
[06:39] <Jordan_U> samuraibsd: gnome-tweak-tool 2>&1 | pastebinit
[06:40] <samuraibsd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6513069/
[06:41] <samuraibsd> Terminal seems really unstable...
[06:43] <Jordan_U> samuraibsd: I think that you have a problem that is affecting the stability of multiple apps (i.e. the gnome-terminal crashes and the gnome-tweak-tool crashes are related).
[06:43] <hellslinger>  does anyone know where default login information for users is stored? specificially, what session to log into from kdm/ligthdm?
[06:43] <samuraibsd> Jordan_U: I've tried getting rid of Gnome entirely and then bringing it back, but it didn't help
[06:46] <Jordan_U> samuraibsd: Try logging in with a guest session and see if you can reproduce the problems you're having.
[06:46] <samuraibsd> Sure. Be back soon.
[06:47] <YaMoonSun> Excuse me, I'm having trouble installing webcamstudio - "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse'
[06:48] <samuraibsd> Yup, same issues under the guest account
[06:48] <linuxlite1969> hi
[06:49] <YaMoonSun> Hello
[06:49] <linuxlite1969> i need help yamoonsun
[06:49] <YaMoonSun> Help with what, mate?
[06:50] <linuxlite1969> YaMoonSun i want to spoof my ip and mac address. i know how to spoof my mac but my ip i cant
[06:50] <YaMoonSun> Your local IP, or external?
[06:51] <linuxlite1969> YaMoonSun is there a way where i can spooc ip and mac at the same time?
[06:51] <linuxlite1969> my localip
[06:51] <linuxlite1969> i mean when i ifconfig wlan0
[06:51] <linuxlite1969> i want to change the mac and ip address
[06:52] <samuraibsd> And I'd like to fix the Gnome stuff just because I'm hot a huge fan of any other DE out there right now.
[06:52] <samuraibsd> not a huge*
[06:52] <YaMoonSun> I wish I could be of further assistance, but I'm uneducated in that department. I'm learning a tad bit myself still.
[06:53] <linuxlite1969> ok still thanks anyway YaMoonSun
[06:53] <YaMoonSun> Sure thing, mate; Which distribution are you using right now?
[06:53] <YaMoonSun> Stick around, I'm sure someone will come to your aid.
[06:53] <samuraibsd> YaMoonSun: Are you referring to me?
[06:53] <linuxlite1969> im using linuxlite
[06:54] <linuxlite1969> ok hahah YaMoonSun
[06:55] <YaMoonSun> ah =3
[06:57] <Jay_R> Jordan_U: Posted in http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[06:57] <samuraibsd> Jordan_U: Any suggestions?
[06:58] <Jay_R> URL is: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6513106/
[06:58] <YaMoonSun> wb samurai
[06:59] <Jay_R> Seems like the hangup is on those directories that don't exist. Is there a way I can tell apt or dpkg to ignore that?
[07:00] <samuraibsd> YaMoonSun: Thanks, but I'll probably crash again before this actually gets sent
[07:00] <samuraibsd> ...or not.
[07:01] <YaMoonSun> I think I came in a few moment too late and failed to overhear your issue.
[07:03] <Damon> Hey, I just got through installing ubuntu, it said I have to restart to start using it, it restarted and I just went straight into windows, and I tried restarting again and still no option to boot into ubuntu, what do i do?
[07:03] <samuraibsd> YaMoonSun: Tweak tool crashes upon launch and Terminal crashes basically whenever I interact with it any further than basic typing
[07:04] <samuraibsd> Which is why I keep dropping out of the channel.
[07:04] <YaMoonSun> Damon, ubuntu should have installed grub bootloader which allows you to select your operating system.
[07:04] <Jay_R> Damon, had that issue too. Here's a link for a great tutorial that helped me repair GRUB. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[07:05] <Damon> gonna read it, thanks :)
[07:05] <tokern3> how can i install pktgen module?
[07:05] <YaMoonSun> Tweak tool, huh? You're running BSD right now?
[07:05] <samuraibsd> YaMoonSun: No, I'm running Ubuntu. If I were running BSD right now I'd be in a BSD channel, wouldn't I? :P
[07:06] <Damon> thanks guys gonna go try that
[07:06] <larky2013> hi
[07:06] <YaMoonSun> I suppose so, but I'm using Lubuntu so I bet there are quite a few OS's being used in this chat.
[07:07] <tokern3> i do not have pktgen module on my system!! and i don't know why. i'm trying to install it but do not know the way and i found nothing about installing it's module in internet.
[07:07] <YaMoonSun> Hello larky
[07:07] <YaMoonSun> Hope damon has a windows disc backed up, lol
[07:07] <larky2013> Is there any SSL guru here?
[07:07] <larky2013> Hi YaMoonSun
[07:07] <samuraibsd> YaMoonSun: A reasonable assumption. My name is a BSD reference.
[07:07]  * YaMoonSun is pretty sure there is, but I'm not him.
[07:08] <YaMoonSun> SSL was easy when I was a teenager, but I only learned what I needed. What are you trying to achieve?
[07:09] <Evan___> yay
[07:10] <Evan___> trying to run a deb binary
[07:10] <YaMoonSun> I think chkrootkit is providing false feedback - There's no way I have a rootkit.
[07:10] <Evan___> deb ./d$ No command 'deb' found, did you mean:  Command 'debc' from package 'devscripts' (main)  Command 'derb' from package 'libicu-dev' (main)  Command 'dab' from package 'bsdgames' (universe)  Command 'debi' from package 'devscripts' (main)  Command 'xdeb' from package 'xdeb' (universe) deb: command not found
[07:11] <larky2013> I just want to know if it is possible to create/buy SSL cert for domain with multiple levels of subdomains. IE: I want to have one cert for abc.def.domain.tld abc.def.ghi.domain.tld a.domain.tld etc, all abc, def subdomains are dynamic (I don't know all subdomains during cert creation process)
[07:11] <Evan___> shut up larky just use a window is what i was told
[07:12] <YaMoonSun> Wow, what a twat =/
[07:12] <larky2013> hehe, old irc... %)
[07:13] <YaMoonSun> Sorry sir, you already sound more advanced than I would consider myself via SSL - Lurk though, you might have some luck.
[07:13] <larky2013> YaMoonSun: np
[07:16] <YaMoonSun> clear
[07:20] <Gotango> Has ubuntu reached 200 Million users yet ?
[07:26] <xubun2> i am using xubuntu 13.10. i got an update for the linux-image to 3.11.0-14. after i ran the update and restarted the computer, i find that all the windows are missing the titlebar on top. the workspaces panel is only showing one workspace. and quite often its difficult to type into a given window because the text starts to appear in another window below. i rebooted and switched to the earlier 3.11.0-13 but still no luck.. anyone know what i can do?
[07:26] <balajics> I am using ubuntu 13.04, network auto reconnect takes > 30 seconds when waking from sleep or in boot. Is there anyway to reduce this?
[07:27] <Beldar> xubun2, Are you using a proprietary graphic driver?
[07:30] <vocx> xubun2, I think I had the same problem. I switched to the normal desktop, without Unity, and then the video drivers where updated and then Unity worked again fine.
[07:30] <Name141> Does 12.04 have the acceloration for the 4670 ?
[07:31] <samuraibsd> Reup on question: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6513207/ Any tips on fixing this? Also, Terminal is unstable and may be related.
[07:31] <xubun2> Beldar, no i'm not
[07:31] <xubun2> vocx, i'm not using Unity i dont think - i'm using xfce
[07:32] <Beldar> vocx, what is the normal desktop?
[07:32] <YaMoonSun> I /clear
[07:32] <makara> hi. The menubar (File, Edit, ...) of some apps is unavailable. How can I get to it?
[07:33] <Beldar> xubun2, Have you removed any of the other desktops, and or modified xfce, or had problems with kernel updates so far?
[07:35] <vocx> Beldar, I don't know how to call the Non-Unity desktop of Gnome. I install the package, fallback? Something like that.
[07:35] <Beldar> samuraibsd, gnome 3.8 is a ppa in 13.04 and is not supported.
[07:35] <samuraibsd> Beldar: Yes, I've noticed. Is there some way to fix this error, or am I just going to have to reinstall?
[07:36] <Beldar> samuraibsd, You can run ppa-purge on that ppa and get back to stock.
[07:36] <Beldar> !ppa-purge | samuraibsd
[07:36] <samuraibsd> Beldar: I know that as well. Is there a way to keep 3.8 and still be stable?
[07:37] <Beldar> vocx, There is the gnome shell, and the fallback and there is a gnome shell install all alone.
[07:37] <Beldar> samuraibsd,  I would not know, and it is not supported here in that config.
[07:38] <xubun2> Beldar, i haven't made any changes to xfce recently or since i installed it. and never had a problem with a kernel update before. it was working fine an hour ago right till i installed the update and restarted
[07:38] <Beldar> samuraibsd, You would really have to contact the ppa owner or gnome developers.
[07:39] <samuraibsd> Beldar: Not worth it, then. I guess I'm back to 3.4
[07:39] <Beldar> xubun2, Have you removed any other desktops?
[07:40] <xubun2> Beldar, what do you mean?
[07:40] <Beldar> xubun2, Some install regular ubuntu with unity and remove unity.
[07:41] <xubun2> no i installed xubuntu here with default options and only installed xfce
[07:41] <Beldar> xubun2, ubuntu does not install with xfce alone unless you use a net install, have you removed any other desktops?
[07:41] <Beldar> xubun2, Cool a xubuntu install, try booting to it to see how it looks.
[07:41] <oliver_753> exit
[07:41] <oliver_753> logout
[07:42] <nevyn> /quit
[07:42] <xubun2> Beldar, i downloaded xubuntu 13.04 from what i remember there was no unity components selected as part of the install
[07:42] <aeaglez> lol i was about to write that
[07:42] <aeaglez> there is a net ubuntu version?
[07:43] <Beldar> xubun2, Cool you can install xubuntu, kubuntu, and lubuntu jsu wahted to meake sure we are on the same page.
[07:43] <Beldar> aeaglez, you can do a net install with a mini cd
[07:44] <xubun2> Beldar, yes i've installed xubuntu from the downloaded install media, not switched to xfce from ubuntu
[07:44] <aeaglez> but how do i get new notifications that a new version is available?
[07:45] <Beldar> aeaglez, software-properties-gtk  in updates bottom dropdown set it to all releases.
[07:46] <Beldar> for any new version is the actual choice
[07:46] <Damon> so I cant get an option to boot into ubuntu it automatically puts me in windows, I followed the boot-repair guide but when im in terminal it wont install and asks me if someone else is using the program or says I dont have privileges, can someone help me?
[07:47] <Beldar> Damon, post the bootinfo summary that was generated when using that tool
[07:47] <aeaglez> do you have windows 8?
[07:47] <aeaglez> no i might know how to fix this Beldar
[07:47] <Damon> wont let me use the tool, I cant install it on my live USB ubuntu try ubuntu option
[07:47] <Beldar> Damon, where you in a admin account when you ran the tool.
[07:47] <Damon> im on windows 7
[07:48] <Beldar> Damon, Do not help unless you are sure.
[07:48] <Damon> I dont know didnt give me a choice of users, im totally new to this
[07:48] <Beldar> aeaglez, Do not help unless you are sure.
[07:48] <Beldar> Damon, sorry meant that for other user
[07:48] <Damon> np
[07:49] <Beldar> Damon, bootrepiar runs in ubuntu
[07:49] <aeaglez> if it was windows 8 i know how to access uefi but im not sure if the same rule applies for win7
[07:50] <ab`> Damon: you mean you can't install boot-repair?
[07:50] <Damon> yea I was following the guide and trying to install it in the 'try ubuntu' option of of my live ubuntu usb,
[07:50] <Beldar> including the download of it and addinf the ppa Damon
[07:50] <Damon> yea exactly
[07:50] <dp_wiz> Is it too risky to switch to tahr from saucy yet?
[07:50] <Beldar> Damon, You have to be on the live desktop to add the ppa and install it and run it.
[07:51] <Damon> I was just there and couldnt get it to work so I restarted into windows to come ask u guys
[07:51] <ab`> Damon: how did you try to install it? (apt-get, software-center etc...)
[07:51] <Damon> sudo apt-get boot-repair or something similair, couldnt get sudo apt-get update to work either
[07:52] <aeon-ltd> dp_wiz: if it's beta, then yeah of course. it's beta for a reason
[07:52] <Gorroth> sudo make_sandwich -for me
[07:52] <Beldar> Damon, a live environment should install it, did you follow the bootrepiar wiki?
[07:52] <dp_wiz> aeon-ltd: it's not even an alpha1 (=
[07:52] <Damon> yea
[07:52] <aeon-ltd> dp_wiz: then it's even more likely to unstable
[07:52] <Beldar> !ot | Gorroth
[07:52] <Damon> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair < the guide I used
[07:53] <Gorroth> oh, was the talk about windows 8 and windows 7 on topic?
[07:53] <dp_wiz> aeon-ltd: yeah. but i had some success with alphaX from 12.x and 13.04... It's the 13.10 release fiasko that frightens me.
[07:53] <ab`> Damon: what error did apt-get throw exactly?
[07:54] <Damon> I actually didnt do one of the lkines im looking at
[07:54] <Beldar> Damon, try it again being sure to follow the wiki exactly, there is no reason a correctly loaded live ubuntu should not work.
[07:54] <Beldar> ah missing link, hehe
[07:54] <Damon> said It was in use or I didnt have privilges
[07:54] <Damon> ill try again and come back if doesnt work
[07:54] <Damon> thanks alot
[07:54] <aeon-ltd> dp_wiz: if you wanted to be on the bleeding edge, you should look at other distros. but then there aren't many like ubuntu (if you use unity)
[07:54] <Beldar> Damon, cool, good luck.
[07:55] <croneur> hi
[07:55] <croneur> i am new user
[07:55] <lnxusr232> does anyone know the keyboard shortcut for word count/ character count in gnu nano? I'm searching online and looking through the man but only finding the console command
[07:55] <Beldar> !yay | croneur
[07:56] <dp_wiz> aeon-ltd: of course i love unity (:
[07:57] <samuraibsd> Tried to PPA purge, and it told me "something went wrong" and that not all the packages may have been reverted.
[07:57] <samuraibsd> How screwed am I?
[07:58] <Beldar> samuraibsd, Did you use ppa-purge like the bots links show?
[07:59] <samuraibsd> Beldar: Yeah, same way I always do.
[07:59] <samuraibsd> I've actually never seen this error before
[07:59] <Beldar> samuraibsd, Have you modified the desktop in other ways, you were using the shell?
[08:00] <samuraibsd> Beldar: Elaborate on your definition of "modified the desktop"
[08:00] <lnxusr232> (for example, ^c gives a character count and line count. but there is an option to get a word count... hm)
[08:00] <Beldar> samuraibsd, anything more than adding the 3.8 ppa.
[08:00] <Beldar> not including aadons
[08:01] <Evan___> ps ax | grep dpkg  2887 pts/2    S+     0:00 grep --color=black dpkg     =     starts wine install
[08:01] <samuraibsd> Beldar: I've installed a ton of software over the two years this system has been up. It didn't go bad until today.
[08:01] <Beldar> samuraibsd, So this is an upgrade OS it sounds like and you have no memory of the details
[08:02] <Evan___> Goal: Remove Wine
[08:02] <samuraibsd> Beldar: 13.04 was a clean install at the time, but I put all my old applications back.
[08:02] <Beldar> samuraibsd, In what manner?
[08:03] <samuraibsd> probably apt-get unless it was something I couldn't get otherwise
[08:04] <Beldar> samuraibsd, I am not sure here, however one of the keys to a stable system is being able to know what you have done, how it was installed and how to remove it and how it effects other parts of the OS.
[08:05] <samuraibsd> Beldar: Yes, I know. That's why moving to Ubuntu has been rather difficult for me. Automatic dependency resolution makes it too easy to commit changes that you don't remember
[08:05] <Beldar> samuraibsd, I learned that the hardway.
[08:05] <Beldar> you maybe at that point to
[08:06] <samuraibsd> Part of me wants to move back to Slackware
[08:06] <anton02> if you have windows 8 UEFI installed what's the best way to go about installing ubuntu?
[08:07] <anton02> sorry i forgot to place a comma after 'installed'
[08:07] <Beldar> samuraibsd, 3.10 has a fair warning of instability, the 3.8 somewhat hints at that, so you want to be aware of running ppa's in general is all.
[08:08] <anton02> I mean in a dual boot configuration with windows
[08:08] <samuraibsd> Beldar: If I give up on Gnome3, would you have any recommendations on making Unity better for day to day use?
[08:08] <Beldar> !uefi | anton02
[08:08] <Beldar> samuraibsd, I use the shell but no ppa versions
[08:08] <anton02> "Installing Ubuntu Quickly and Easily via Trial and Error" I lel'd
[08:09] <aeaglez> are there any programmer channels on irc?
[08:09] <anton02> aeaglez: ##c
[08:09] <dp_wiz> anton02: "Installing Ubuntu Quickly and Easily via Fear and Loathing"
[08:09] <anton02> aeaglez: pretty much, the language is == the channel name
[08:10] <lesshaste> can anyone recommend a checkers/draughts implementation for ubuntu?
[08:10] <Boneheads1999> I need help with minitube, for those who know what it is.  The video loads fast and all, but the colors are screwed up.
[08:10] <Boneheads1999> it's not the monitor btw.
[08:10] <Beldar> anton02, hee is more info, and I think one of the best helpers "the mod" in this area, image/clone the W8 and use its disk manager to resize it before installing ubuntu. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[08:10] <Boneheads1999> already checked.
[08:10] <Beldar> here*
[08:10] <Evan___> The colors are encrypted with somebody else's vision.
[08:10] <samuraibsd> Ugh, PPAs suck
[08:10] <dp_wiz> samuraibsd: why?
[08:11] <anton02> why does it actually say 'via trial and error' in that heading though at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[08:11] <samuraibsd> dp_wiz: Seems more trouble than it's worth. I'm trying to fix a broken system here and it seems like PPAs led me to this point. I'm not used to systems like this.
[08:11] <lesshaste> when I do "apt-cache search checkers" it gives me lots of things that don't look like the game checkers
[08:11] <Beldar> Evan___, Are actually talking to anyone?
[08:11] <lesshaste> what is the right way to search?
[08:11] <aeaglez> anton02:it is saying i have to register
[08:11] <Boneheads1999> Evan___: was that an answer to my question?
[08:12] <Evan___> Beldar I just made my computer beep typing this in.
[08:12] <dp_wiz> samuraibsd: never stumbled on anything apt-get purge can't solve...
[08:12] <anton02> aeaglez: register your IRC nick, i forgot how so don't ask me
[08:12] <Boneheads1999> I shall post again in case there's somebody new to help.  My Minitube colors are all messed up.
[08:12] <samuraibsd> dp_wiz: Doesn't seem to be solving my problem here. We're moving ever closer to just reinstalling.
[08:12] <Boneheads1999> Minitube is an app to watch youtube videos on, btw.
[08:13] <Beldar> Evan___, If this is a bot take it off now, the next one I will notify the ops.
[08:13] <Evan___> Beldar. This is not a bot. My computer beeped again.
[08:13] <Beldar> !ot | Evan___
[08:13] <aeaglez> i thought i register it when i log on to this
[08:13] <aeaglez> it asks me what i want my real name and nick name and thats it, or is there more?
[08:14] <fidel_> aeaglez: register -> you should find more informations in the freenode faq
[08:14] <Evan___> Belday I am confused about my computer.
[08:14] <Beldar> !register | aeaglez
[08:14] <Evan___> First I thought I would get skype.
[08:14] <Beldar> Evan___, Then make a cogent description of the details of the problem.
[08:14] <Evan___> Then I got the deb binary file.
[08:15] <Evan___> Then I thought I needed Wine to run it.
[08:15] <Evan___> Now when I type a weird command in my computer Wine setup starts.
[08:15] <Beldar> Evan___, Stop this is not chat but support.
[08:16] <Evan___> This command is a process stuck on I think.
[08:16] <anton02> can ubuntu use window's EFI partition or does it need a new one?
[08:16] <Beldar> !ops | Evan___ random mindless posts
[08:16] <fibz_> anton02,  you will need a dedicated partition for ubuntu
[08:17] <samuraibsd> Well, now there's a bunch of broken packages that won't auto resolve. Should never have gone with this setup
[08:17] <Myrtti> Evan___: no, you don't need Wine to run Skype
[08:17] <Evan___> Do random mindless posts help channel?
[08:17] <Myrtti> Evan___: on the other hand I can't remember how to get rid of that wine association either
[08:17] <Myrtti> Evan___: no.
[08:18] <Evan___> So Wine is burned into my system?
[08:18] <Myrtti> Evan___: no
[08:18] <shift1> lol
[08:18] <fibz_> if you dont need wine, just uninstall it. problem solved.
[08:18] <Evan___> attempting to uninstall bitch fibz
[08:19] <shift1> Beldar:btw can i ask what metacity -- replace does? does it do something with the compiz?
[08:19] <skataria1> i have ubuntu machine with two network cards and configured two ips in my lan (192.168.1.2) and 192.168.2.2 i want to ping this machine using hostname in my lan
[08:19] <Evan___> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:19] <Pricey> Evan___: Are you human?
[08:20] <Evan___> Pricey I am very human I promise.
[08:20] <fibz_> Evan___,  something is surrently instaling/uninstalling. wait for it to finish. if thei si not the case, reboot
[08:20] <Evan___> I have all ready restarted my computer once.
[08:20] <Pricey> fibz_: eeek no don't reboot
[08:20] <Evan___> While dealing with this bug.
[08:21] <samuraibsd> Okay, trying to reinstall gnome-shell 3.6 gives me http://paste.ubuntu.com/6513366/
[08:22] <samuraibsd> ran an apt-get update, tried to see if there were packages on hold, but there appear to be none
[08:22] <Evan___> I shale attempt to install the dependencies samuraidbs.
[08:23] <Evan___> *Samuraibsd
[08:24] <Gorroth> (echo '#include <stdio.h>' ; echo 'int main() { printf("Here is your sandwich, honey.\n"); return 0; }') > sandwich.c ; echo -e 'me_a_sandwich:\n\tgcc sandwich.c -o sandwich' > Makefile ; make me_a_sandwich ; ./sandwich
[08:24] <shift1> Aye laddy, ye know knee pain, what a real angus are you
[08:24] <Gorroth> that seems legit for this channel
[08:24] <shift1> wrong chat
[08:25] <Evan___> Another lock error.
[08:25] <Evan___> I shale try to look past apt-get
[08:26] <Evan___> apt-get can not update
[08:26] <adj_> hey this is damon, I got ubuntu work after bootrepair but I wanted to know if its normal to have a boot option screen where theres 2 options for windows and it just says windows then location on hd partition
[08:26] <skataria1> any one there...cannot ping my ubuntu system using hostname
[08:27] <samuraibsd> Alright, Gnome is just hosed. Guess I'll be getting used to Unity. Is there a way to make the "glass" behind the icons go away?
[08:27] <samuraibsd> On the launcher
[08:27] <eyfour> Should I report lightdm-related bugs for the 14.04 daily images? Or should I wait until Trusty is in alpha/beta? Thanks.
[08:27] <Beldar> adj_, The windows recovery at times shows in the grub menu
[08:27] <Evan___> After many failures: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:27] <mantas>  hello, what is the best cloud for own server?
[08:28] <adj_> ah alright thats what I thought it just didnt say recovery
[08:28] <Gorroth> Beldar: i made my sandwich request a little more friendly to unix and ubuntu
[08:28] <adj_> guess not a big deal
[08:29] <Evan___> Unknown directory lock /var/lib/dpkg/
[08:29] <Beldar> adj_, JUst be careful, I believe if you hit the recovery nothing would happen til you said yes run it, but you want to be aware is all, if that is actually what is there.
[08:29] <adj_> alright man
[08:30] <Evan___> Recover recovers fast but I refuse.
[08:30] <adj_> thanks alot I spent like 8 hours trying to get ubuntu running I really appreciate the help
[08:30] <Beldar> adj_, glad you got it resolved, enjoy. ;)
[08:31] <adj_> cheers
[08:31] <Beldar> ;)
[08:32] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks! I've just found "ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL" in my /etc/sudoers, and I've not added it. Is there any package in the repositories that does this? Is this a known bug of a package?
[08:33] <Gorroth> you probably did that sometime and don't recall
[08:33] <Beldar> GeorgeJ, It would take admin authorization to do that.
[08:33] <GeorgeJ> I know it does. And no Gorroth, I would never do such a thing.
[08:34] <Gorroth> maybe a college dorm-mate did it in single-user mode
[08:34] <Jordan_U> !dpkglock | Evan___
[08:34] <Gorroth> and maybe they set a password up for the nobody account
[08:34] <Gorroth> why would i think that's possible?  i troll'd a friend in exactly that manner in college once :)
[08:35] <Beldar> GeorgeJ, Anyone else have you password? You would have had errors using it when asked, or not been asked at all.
[08:35] <GeorgeJ> My laptop remains unsupervised for verry short periods of time. I would have noticed if it was restarted.
[08:36] <GeorgeJ> Beldar: Nobody has my password but me. I'm checking all the untrusted debs I installed, to see if any of them had modified my sudoers.
[08:36] <GeorgeJ> It's suspicious because it's the last line in the sudoers also. As if it was appended programatically or something.
[08:37] <Not_YaMoonSun> Do you think you're infected, or?
[08:37] <Gorroth> i thought i'd notice if my CC number was skimmed, but alas, it was, even though i watch the card
[08:37] <Evan___> The deb I was planning to run was Skype.
[08:37] <Gorroth> maybe it's last so you don't notice it
[08:38] <Gorroth> anyway, goodnight.  Beldar, let me know how you like the sandwich making app.  i hope you'll be making many of them soon
[08:38] <Gorroth> apps, that is
[08:38] <GeorgeJ> Is there any easy way of grepping trough all the deb hooks of all the packages I have installed?
[08:39] <Zorky> Im looking for help regarding an issue i can't resolv by my self. I need to created a shared folder for user1 & user2. so they both have 777 permissions on all files saved to that folder. I have searched google. and used: chmod g+rwxs  chown root:<group both users are members of> then i created a symbolic link ln -s /filepath /filepath But when i try to save a file in the folder it gets the same permissions as the creator. not inheriting the folder permissions.
[08:40] <Evan___> Zorky: Try hosting the data with user interfaces.
[08:40] <Zorky> Evan___:  Please explain
[08:40] <Evan___> Running a deb binary file does nothing.
[08:40] <Evan___> But give me an error.
[08:41] <Evan___> ./debian-binary.bin: line 1: 2.0: command not found
[08:42] <Hexagonite> Help, I tried booting Ubuntu through Windows 8's EFI USB boot and I get 'Unsupported image type' then only get a console
[08:42] <Beldar> Hexagonite, install or live enviroment?
[08:43] <Hexagonite> Live environment
[08:43] <Beldar> ah usb mi mistake.
[08:43] <vocx> Evan___, what do you want to do? There is no such thing as a deb binary.
[08:43] <lesshaste> is there an ubuntu games channel?
[08:43] <Beldar> Hexagonite, Have you looked at the uefi wiki?
[08:43] <Evan___> Understood.
[08:43] <Evan___> Unless you want an upload lol
[08:43] <Hexagonite> Yes, can't find that message I get
[08:43] <LjL> lesshaste: not one that's active, i don't think
[08:44] <LjL> lesshaste: but there is an #ubuntu-gaming registered at least
[08:44] <linuxlite1969> anyone here knows about cloud?
[08:44] <Beldar> Hexagonite, Some errors are not going to show in the wiki, uefi is a bit of a problem in general, hiwever people seem to get things working.
[08:45] <Evan___> linuxlite1969: Buy dedicated server and make a could.
[08:45] <Hexagonite> I regret buying a Windows 8 laptop :/
[08:45] <Evan___> *cloud.
[08:45] <linuxlite1969> i dont know how cloud works
[08:45] <linuxlite1969> this is what i need
[08:45] <Jordan_U> Hexagonite: Is this a 32 bit machine?
[08:45] <Hexagonite> 64-bit
[08:46] <aeon-ltd> linuxlite1969: why?
[08:46] <linuxlite1969> im making an enrollment system and it needs to be accesible to cloud what are the things i need?
[08:46] <Evan___> linuxlite1969: Need what?
[08:46] <Evan___> I would use database.
[08:46] <Jordan_U> Hexagonite: Try asking in #grub (wait a while, possibly a day, if you don't get an immediate response).
[08:46] <aeon-ltd> linuxlite1969: a always on server?
[08:47] <lesshaste> LjL, ah ok
[08:47] <Evan___> database meant for internet
[08:47] <lesshaste> LjL, thanks
[08:47] <Evan___> cloud
[08:47] <Evan___> ?
[08:47] <lesshaste> can't believe no one plays checkers/draughts! :)
[08:47] <Hexagonite> 'possibly a day' too much
[08:47] <samuraibsd> Anyone know how to get Unity to play nice with Conky?
[08:48] <samuraibsd> My conky setup has a drop shadow no matter what I do
[08:48] <Evan___> linuxlite1969: Do you want to host files for multiple interfaces?
[08:48] <linuxlite1969> yes, i saw ubuntu openstack cloud, but i dont know how to make it
[08:48] <Zorky> Im looking for help regarding an issue i can't resolv by my self. I need to created a shared folder for user1 & user2. so they both have 777 permissions on all files saved to that folder. I have searched google. and used: chmod g+rwxs  chown root:<group both users are members of> then i created a symbolic link ln -s /filepath /filepath But when i try to save a file in the folder it gets the same permissions as the creator. not inheriting the folder permissions
[08:49] <linuxlite1969> maybe its an online enrollment system but the server is on the cloud something like that. i dont know hahahah im new to this
[08:49] <Evan___> linuxlite1969: To have access to many interfaces you can use web hosting.
[08:50] <Beldar> samuraibsd, You can adjust the conky file, but you have to close and reopen it to show changes.
[08:50] <Beldar> the actual conky not the file
[08:51] <samuraibsd> Beldar: You mean conkyrc, I assume. I've played with all the options. It worked fine under Gnome, not so much under Unity.
[08:52] <Beldar> samuraibsd, yeah conkyrc, there are all kinds of links on how to mess with it, but it can be a bit frustrating.
how can i upload a service in a cloud?
[08:52] <samuraibsd> Beldar: I'm quite comfortable with it. I've changed all the things that should work with its display, but none of them change anything under Unity
[08:53] <Evan___> linuxlite1960: An internet connection may help.
[08:53] <Beldar> samuraibsd, And you have stopped the conky and restarted it.
[08:54] <Name141> Is there a way to get ubuntu looking like the classic editions?
[08:54] <Beldar> Name141, gnome2?
[08:54] <samuraibsd> Beldar: Of course.
[08:54] <Name141> Beldar: yes
[08:54] <Beldar> Name141, The closest is the fallback a pseudo gnome2
[08:55] <Beldar> samuraibsd, I have found that that I have had to logout or reboot some cony changes not sure why though.
[08:55] <samuraibsd> Well that sucks, I accidentally changed my metacity theme and can't get it back.
[08:55] <samuraibsd> *sigh*
[08:56] <Zorky> Im looking for help regarding an issue i can't resolv by my self. I need to created a shared folder for user1 & user2. so they both have 777 permissions on all files saved to that folder. I have searched google. and used: chmod g+rwxs  chown root:<group both users are members of> then i created a symbolic link ln -s /filepath /filepath But when i try to save a file in the folder it gets the same permissions as the creator. not inheriting the folder permissions
[08:56] <samuraibsd> Beldar: This is really just not my night
[08:56] <Beldar> samuraibsd, metacity in the shell?
[08:56] <Name141> Beldar: Will try
[08:56] <Name141> (it)
[08:56] <Evan___> Zorky: You will give both users root
[08:56] <samuraibsd> Beldar: No, Gnome is broken beyond repair, so I tried to go in and get Unity less crappy. I accidentally changed the metacity theme I had and can't get it back because tweak tool no longer works
[08:57] <Evan___> I'm guessing.
[08:57] <samuraibsd> Beldar: I also can't reinstall Gnome because a number of its dependencies appear to be broken, and now even Conky won't play nicely with Unity, so it looks hideous
[08:58] <Beldar> Evan___, You are commenting random;y and confusing users, this is support state any problem you have concisely and don;t help unless you know the answer.
[08:58] <Beldar> samuraibsd, You can purge the shell
[08:59] <samuraibsd> Beldar: I tried. It failed.
[09:00] <Beldar> samuraibsd, You have any other PPA's than the original gnome one?
[09:00] <Name141> Beldar: that's pretty decent
[09:00] <Beldar> Name141, Many like the fallback.
[09:00] <samuraibsd> Beldar: I have many PPAs installed. At this point, it's easier for me to just nuke this installation and start over, probably.
[09:00] <mister> /join
[09:00] <Name141> How do you get the min/max, close, etc back on the right?
[09:01] <Beldar> samuraibsd, Probably, your choice, just be careful with adding PPA's and keep aware of what you do. ;)
[09:01] <samuraibsd> Beldar: I can't say the new system for Ubuntu is one I enjoy. This is pretty much my first playthrough with PPAs and the experience has not been a good one
[09:03] <Beldar> samuraibsd, I use a few but you have to be careful is all, they are not part of the ubuntu repos and not really supported here and considered unstable in general, however beneficial at times
[09:04] <Beldar> samuraibsd, New system meaning?
[09:04] <samuraibsd> Beldar: The last time I used Ubuntu, PPAs weren't a thing.
[09:05] <TheHustle> Hi, I was just wondering, if I have multiple FTP accounts on my server, and 2 account users uploaded ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-i386.iso is there a way to ghost the file so both account users would see the file but infact there is only 1 file on the server?
[09:05] <samuraibsd> Beldar: I'm also not thrilled with Unity.
[09:05] <Beldar> samuraibsd, depends on  which ones you use is all, can you say what you have used and what you use now and if any are the swame?
[09:05] <Beldar> same*
[09:05] <samuraibsd> Beldar: Please clarify. I don't understand your question.
[09:06] <Beldar> samuraibsd, You state you had no problems before with ppa's so are they the same ones you use now? That statement means nothing to be honest without details.
[09:06] <Zorky> Im looking for help regarding an issue i can't resolv by my self. I need to created a shared folder for user1 & user2. so they both have 777 permissions on all files saved to that folder. I have searched google. and used: chmod g+rwxs  chown root:<group both users are members of> then i created a symbolic link ln -s /filepath /filepath But when i try to save a file in the folder it gets the same permissions as the creator. not inheriting the folder permissions
[09:07] <samuraibsd> Beldar: The only ones I've added recently were the gnome3 ones
[09:07] <samuraibsd> Those are now gone, but it seems Gnome could not be properly removed, and reinstalling it fails as well
[09:09] <Beldar> samuraibsd, It looked like you tried to directly install 3.6 after a failed purge of 3.8, not really a logical move. If the purge had worked there would be no reinstalling.
[09:09] <anton02> for some reason im being taken to the grub prompt after shimx64.efi boots
[09:09] <samuraibsd> Beldar: And that's why I don't really like how PPAs work. The entire thing feels convoluted and opaque
[09:09] <Beldar> samuraibsd, The pastebin showed broken packages have you investigated that>
[09:10] <samuraibsd> Beldar: Yes, they fail to install
[09:10] <samuraibsd> I tracked a similar problem down to a bug report filed in 2010, but it was deemed fixed, and then later reopened.
[09:10] <Beldar> samuraibsd, That is not an investigation of why they have failed though
[09:11] <NeoID> hi there, any recommandations on web gui for kvm?
[09:12] <samuraibsd> Beldar: I assume then that you have a suggestion?
[09:12] <Beldar> samuraibsd, Anyway what I see is just some un-aware use of the resources available, I would be careful what you install and know its use and effect on the other parts of the OS.
[09:13] <Beldar> samuraibsd, And keep a record of what you install or remember it.
[09:14] <samuraibsd> Beldar: If your goal is to chastise me, well done. However, I came asking for assistance. If there are no useful suggestions to be had with regards to actually solving the problem, perhaps I should spend my time elsewhere.
[09:15] <Beldar> samuraibsd, No it's not, it is to use common sense, you can project what you want onto it.
[09:15] <somsip> Zorky: same response as yesterday - don't make the shared folder world-writeable. Try 775. Like it said in the link someone gave you yesterday
[09:16] <samuraibsd> Beldar: Common sense is doing package management manually. This PPA business and automatic resolution of various tasks is arcane to me.
[09:16] <Zorky> somsip:  i have tried that. it didn't work.
[09:16] <somsip> Zorky: is the issue that you are accerssing it via a soft link?
[09:17] <Zorky> im accessing the folder from a symbolic link
[09:17] <Beldar> samuraibsd, It is hard to help someone who has no real definitive knowledge of what they have done, and has used a system at best is careless.
[09:17] <Beldar> we don't do miracles here
[09:17] <somsip> Zorky: I read that. Are the files correctly shared when you access the folder directly and not through the soft link?
[09:17] <samuraibsd> Beldar: That's fine. If I'm stuck with Unity, can you at least help me to make it suck less, or am I just doomed to a reinstall and never touching a PPA again?
[09:19] <Zorky> somsip:  No
[09:19] <mint> trying to compile something from source, i managed to resolve most dependencies except for "checking for GTK... no          configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.10.0) were not met:            No package 'gtk+-2.0' found"
[09:20] <Zorky> somsip:  folder permissions: drwxrwsr-x 2 root group 4096 dec 3 10:18
[09:20] <Beldar> samuraibsd, honestly you claim to use a "package management manually" but I see no evidence of that.
[09:21] <samuraibsd> Beldar: I've been a Slackware user for years. I decided to give the automatic thing a try and it got away from me. I can't seem to fix it because I don't know half of what this crazy thing installed
[09:22] <somsip> samuraibsd: I know it doesn't help you, but this is why !PPA gets used a lot in here. They can make a mess...
[09:22] <samuraibsd> somsip: I noticed. I'll probably not use that system again should I decide to stick with Ubuntu
[09:22] <hazy90> Hi everyone, I have Ubuntu 13.10  on Lenovo thinkpad E145. I can't adjust the brightness in the settings or with the keyboard. How can I fix this? thanks
[09:26] <Beldar> hazy90, I see this askubuntu thread, note any grub changes need a reboot o have working. http://askubuntu.com/questions/363152/ubuntu-13-10-brightness-issue
[09:26] <hazy90> I can't change the brightness like:  echo 1 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/thinkpad_screen/brightness
[09:26] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[09:26] <Beldar> hazy90, At least with kernel adjustments.
[09:27] <hazy90> I've tried the solutions on that link, but they didn't work for me
[09:27] <Beldar> hazy90, You reboted to check them?
[09:27] <Beldar> rebooted*
[09:27] <hazy90> I've also found other solutions suggesting editing grub with other values, but none of them is working for me
[09:28] <hazy90> yes
[09:29] <hazy90> I have rebooted so many times :)) actually this problem is driving me crazy. my screen is too bright!
[09:30] <Beldar> hazy90, And your sure you ran a update-grub when editing the /etc/default/grub I just wonder if somewhere a user error has occured is all.
[09:30] <Beldar> it happens to all of us is all
[09:31] <hazy90> yes I can actually do it once more and copy and paste the output here
[09:31] <Beldar> hazy90, Nah, just comments is all, that link has a lot of options is all.
[09:32] <hazy90> yes and sadly they don't work for me. I don't know what would be possibly wrong...
[09:34] <is_null> hi all, is there a kernel package with bfq ?
[09:37] <samuraibsd> Any chance going up to 13.10 will solve anything?
[09:37] <samuraibsd> Eh, whatever, if it breaks the machine, it breaks the machine
[09:38] <TheSarge> Where's the development channel?
[09:38] <random> hello evb, does anyone know a way to change my terminal to make it act like "less -S" ? and not "tput rmam" please :)
[09:41] <TheSarge> Is Edge not happening? Just cause crowdfunding failed?
[09:41] <samuraibsd> TheSarge: If you ask me, it's not happening because it was a bad idea, but I'm sure others will have different opinions
[09:41] <TheSarge> What about commercial investors like HTC or Motorola?
[09:42] <Hexagonite> Help, I got Ubuntu up and running, only problem is that I can't scan through my printer (Epson Stylus T10). Simple Scan says I don't have a scanner connected
[09:43] <DJones> TheSarge: Probably the best place to ask about Edge will be #ubuntu-touch Probably the people who know most about it and the touch operating system are in that channel
[09:43] <TheSarge> It was a brilliant idea..  That model of carrying around your computer as a portable phone and tablet then docking at home for a fully capable production desktop is the future
[09:43] <Beldar> Hexagonite, YOU have it plugged directly to the computer mine wont run in a usb hub?
[09:43] <Hexagonite> Beldar: yes? I don't even own a usb hub
[09:44] <Evan___> I need help with an error: compiz:2588): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_remove_internal: assertion `hash_table != NULL' failed
[09:44] <TheSarge> #ubuntu-touch
[09:44] <TheSarge> Oops
[09:44] <Beldar> Hexagonite, I have seen problems with combo printers/scanners I have a printer and a scanner myself.
[09:44] <Hexagonite> Ubuntu recognizes it through the Printers window
[09:47] <Hexagonite> does this mean I really have to install Windows back? :L
[09:49] <Beldar> Hexagonite, Back, I would have dualbooted, I have W8.1 for word and ubuntu for everything else. This scanner thing may be resolvable.
[09:49] <Evan___> Installing apt-get opens the MICROSOFT Wine installation for me. Please help.
[09:50] <compdoc> Installing apt-get?
[09:50] <Zorky> Evan___:  apt-get is installed per default in ubuntu
[09:50] <Evan___> yeah but I broke it somehow
[09:50] <Beldar> Evan___, would you post the out put of lsb_release -a
[09:51] <Evan___> No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS Release:	12.04 Codename:	precise
[09:51] <Beldar> thanks
[09:51] <TheSarge> So the 13 million they raised for edge...  What happens to that money?
[09:52] <DJones> TheSarge: It went back to the people that donated
[09:52] <TheSarge> Oh
[09:52] <TheSarge> I wanted that phone so bad.
[09:53] <compdoc> maybe someday
[09:53] <samuraibsd> I have yet to see what Ubuntu touch offers that other platforms dont
[09:53] <TheSarge> Now I'll just have to try and port UT to my RAZR HD
[09:54] <TheSarge> It's completely open source...
[09:54] <compdoc> I just ordered a 13.3 inch tablet. It would be cool to run ubuntu on that
[09:54] <Zorky> Im looking for help regarding an issue i can't resolv by my self. I need to created a shared folder for user1 & user2. so they both have 777 permissions on all files saved to that folder. I have searched google. and used: chmod g+rwxs  chown root:<group both users are members of> then i created a symbolic link ln -s /filepath /filepath But when i try to save a file in the folder it gets the same permissions as the creator. not inheriting the folder permissions
[09:54] <TheSarge> And it was going to dual boot, so you could dock it at home or work or anywhere with a lapdock and have a fully functional computer.
[09:55] <samuraibsd> There are other open source mobile platforms already
[09:55] <TheSarge> Like what?
[09:55] <geirha> Zorky: the setgid bit makes new files inherit group ownership, not the permissions.
[09:55] <TheSarge> Android isn't even really open source
[09:55] <Evan___> Beldar I don't understand. How to I make it red again so it beeps?
[09:55] <TheSarge> Either is meego
[09:55] <samuraibsd> Android is. The Google skin on top of Android isnt
[09:56] <samuraibsd> But AOSP is fine
[09:56] <Zorky> geirha:  So what do i do in order to make the files i save to that folder. be editable by another user part of the same group?
[09:56] <geirha> Zorky: If you want the new files to be writable to the group, you either have to make sure both users set their umask to 002 or 007, or you'll have to enable acl on the filesystem, and set the default permissions you want via acl
[09:56] <Beldar> Evan___, I was just making sure you were running ubuntu, not sure on the issues.
[09:56] <TheSarge> There are no Android devices commercially available that are open source
[09:56] <Zorky> geirha:  Do you have a link on setting the umask?
[09:56] <TheSarge> Sorry sailfish now not meego
[09:57] <tovarish> Zorky, man umask
[09:57] <Hassen> Hello.
[09:57] <samuraibsd> There are hardly any phones available anywhere that are open. The reality is that smart phones are not like PCs and will likely never have the amount of openness we enjoy on our real computers
[09:57] <Beldar> compdoc, There are ubuntu images for tablets you might check #ubuntu-touch with your tablet version.
[09:57] <Evan___> okay I'm going to try and re install apt-get
[09:57] <compdoc> Beldar, thanks
[09:57] <geirha> Zorky: Putting umask 002 in ~/.profile may suffice. It depends on how they access that directory though
[09:57] <tovarish> samuraibsd, I don't agree, one day they will be open, but not tomorrow
[09:58] <is_null> hi all, is there a kernel package with bfq/bfs ?
[09:58] <samuraibsd> Tovarish, until the situation with drivers changes, smart phones will be severely limited in what OS they can run
[09:58] <geirha> can also be set via pam I believe, which should handle more cases
[09:58] <Evan___> $ sudo apt-get reinstall [sudo] password for me:  E: Invalid operation reinstall
[09:58] <tovarish> samuraibsd, history has proven than things always become open (look at what computrers were and what they are)
[09:59] <samuraibsd> Computers were far more open in their infancy than smart phones are now
[09:59] <Evan___> Does apt-get hate me?
[09:59] <Zorky> geirha:  i dont think i follow. where do i put umas 002? in a file call'd .profile or a file inside a folder callød .profile which is named what exactly??
[09:59] <geirha> Zorky: the two users would put it in their ~/.profile files
[09:59] <Zorky> Evan___:  to reinstall a program from apt-get type this
[09:59] <tovarish> samuraibsd, it will be in the interest of companies to have open smartphone (that's their only chance to beat big companies)
[10:00] <Zorky> Evan___:  sudo apt-get -reinstall install <appname>
[10:00] <Evan___> I feel like I need to reuninstall Wine honestly but thanks :D
[10:00] <geirha> Zorky: That file is parsed when they log in, so all child processes after that will inherit that umask
[10:00] <janisozaur> hi I get "error: timeout" since yesterday (gmt+1) on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas and there is info on launchpad status. is there something wrong?
[10:00] <Zorky> geirha:  i do not have a .profile
[10:00] <Zorky> i know i need to create one
[10:01] <Evan___> what is the apt-get package name?
[10:01]  * Hassen is installing his Huwai 3G key in ubuntu
[10:01] <geirha> Evan___: reinstalling wine will likely not fix anything
[10:01] <Zorky> aprently i did
[10:01] <Hassen> *huawei*
[10:01] <samuraibsd> Tovarish, I remain unconvinced that there will be a great upset in mobile OSes any time soon, least of which will come from open source. We have to realize that the hardware itself simply isn't as accessible as it needs to be
[10:01] <geirha> Zorky: files that start with a dot (.) are often hidden, e.g. in ls output
[10:02] <Zorky> geirha:  i know. i found the file. it didn't apear with ls -a
[10:02] <gordonjcp> samuraibsd: it's entirely accessible
[10:02] <gordonjcp> samuraibsd: you can run any arbitrary OS on any phone, although it's easier with most Android devices
[10:02] <tovarish> samuraibsd, you want open hardware? I was just speaking about documented (and totally documented) API for the hardware
[10:03] <Evan___> E: Command line option 'r' [from -reinstall] is not known.
[10:03] <geirha> Zorky: But again, this makes assumptions on how the users access the directory. If they e.g. access it via samba or ftp, that umask will have no effect
[10:03] <Rory> Evan___: sudo apt-get install --reinstall
[10:03] <Rory> Evan___: not just -reinstall
[10:03] <Zorky> geirha:  it didn't work by setting umask 002 in .profile
[10:03] <Evan___> lock error
[10:03] <Evan___> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:03] <geirha> Zorky: It takes effect next time you log in
[10:03] <samuraibsd> Gordonjcp, it requires much more work to do on a phone than on a PC. My point is that at the moment, the idea of buying hardware and putting whatever OS you want on it for mobile is unrealistic
[10:04] <gordonjcp> samuraibsd: and yet lots of people do it
[10:04] <geirha> Zorky: And opening a new terminal does not count as logging in
[10:04] <Zorky> geirha:  i just rebooted and tried to create a file from user1 and trying to edit it from user2. wasent editable from user2
[10:04] <samuraibsd> Each individual phone requires its own version of the ROM to work
[10:04] <gordonjcp> samuraibsd: but this is not an ubuntu support question and is more suitable for #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:05] <Evan___> Can I uninstall E: and save the shit?
[10:05] <Zorky> Evan___:  language pls
[10:05] <samuraibsd> Alright I'm done. You guys have gotten almost as rigid as the Arch IRC
[10:05] <Evan___> how do I make that resource available again?
[10:05] <geirha> Zorky: you logged in with user1 graphically, then edited the file?
[10:05] <Zorky> geirha:  yes
[10:05] <geirha> *created
[10:06] <geirha> Zorky: run   umask  to see the current value of umask
[10:06] <Zorky> geirha:  umask 0022 it shouldn't be that
[10:07] <Zorky> in .profile it says 002
[10:07] <Evan___> this shit is confusing: Display information about builtin commands.          Displays brief summaries of builtin commands.  If PATTERN is     specified, gives detailed help on all commands matching PATTERN,     otherwise the list of help topics is printed.          Options:       -d	output short description for each topic       -m	display usage in pseudo-manpage format       -s	output only a short usage synopsis for each topic matchi
[10:07] <geirha> Zorky: odd, so apparently it doesn't read your ~/.profile when you log in
[10:08] <geirha> Zorky: are you using lightdm?
[10:08] <Zorky> geirha:  im experiencing more and more weird bugs from each upgrade in ubuntu.
[10:08] <Zorky> geirha:  yes i am im using 13.10 64 bit
[10:08] <Evan___> can I remake ~/.profile ?
[10:09] <Evan___> I deletes it lol
[10:09] <Beldar> Zorky, actual distro upgrades?
[10:09] <Evan___> rm -rf ~/.profile
[10:09] <geirha> Evan___: cp /etc/skel/.profile ~/
[10:10] <Zorky> Beldar:  it dosent matter. there are more and more bugs in each version they put out from ubuntu. and it's all related to UNITY.
[10:10] <Beldar> Zorky, That is fud.
[10:10] <Evan___> nano ~/           =          empty file
[10:10] <Zorky> Beldar:  ?
[10:10] <Beldar> !fud | Zorky
[10:11] <wheatthin> Evan___, right away I can see that you're trying to edit your home folder lol.. thus not empty
[10:11] <geirha> Evan___: ~/ is a directory
[10:11] <Zorky> Beldar:  so it's not allowed to say there are errors with UNITY?
[10:11] <Evan___> rm: cannot remove `/home/evankizer/.config/chromium/Default': Directory not empty rm: cannot remove `/home/evankizer/.gvfs': Device or resource busy
[10:11] <Beldar> Zorky, Whatever problems you have may not be what others have, yhou can't prove that statement.
[10:12] <revo3> i am used to test ubuntu isos by extracting the casper folder to a partition than adding it to grub4dos menu to live boot. up until saucy this worked ok. now livebooting them i  get an error that hwdb.bin is missing in a loop
[10:12] <wheatthin> Evan___, you're going to break something
[10:12] <Evan___> did I break this? rm -rf /home/evankizer/.config/chromium/Default
[10:12] <geirha> Zorky: Let's make sure there's no other umask commands overriding your new one:  grep umask ~/.profile ~/.bashrc
[10:13] <Beldar> Zorky, YOU are welcome to get help here and anywhere with any problems you have, but generalized statements with no proof are just a waste of all out times.
[10:13] <Zorky> Beldar:  this is not the first pc im experiencing the same problem on.
[10:13] <wheatthin> Evan___, are you trying to reset chromium preferences or something?
[10:13] <Beldar> our*
[10:13] <geirha> Evan___: what did you run there? did you try to remove your homedir or something?
[10:13] <Evan___> I'm trying to get rid of MICROSOFT when I go to uninstall Wine. I think I may have completed the task.
[10:14] <Evan___> I tried
[10:14] <geirha> Evan___: mv ~/.wine ~/.wine.old   # now you have a "fresh" wine
[10:14] <wheatthin> Evan___, just uninstall wine and delete the ~/home/.wine directory
[10:14] <revo3> anyone elese experiences problems livebooting isos from usb sticks with grub4dos?
[10:14] <Evan___> did I do it? mv: cannot stat `/home/evankizer/.wine': No such file or directory
[10:14] <Beldar> Zorky, I rarely have a problem on several machines and have running every release since 6.04, so as you see user experiences vary
[10:14] <geirha> Evan___: that means it's gone, at least
[10:15] <Evan___> yay
[10:15] <Evan___> Now I will attempt to re install apt-get
[10:15] <geirha> Evan___: «rm: cannot remove `/home/evankizer/.gvfs': Device or resource busy» this error message suggests you might have messed up an rm command
[10:15] <geirha> Evan___: You might have wiped your whole homedir
[10:15] <Evan___> don't worry
[10:16] <Evan___> I know that are files in there
[10:16] <Evan___> *there
[10:16] <wheatthin> Evan___, how's that?
[10:16] <Evan___> Should I restart computer?
[10:16] <wheatthin> Evan___, nooo you might not get back in to gui lol
[10:16] <Evan___> silly
[10:16] <Evan___> this is gui
[10:16] <wheatthin> yes, in memory
[10:16] <Zorky> Beldar:  im not the only one with these issues. 8 out of 10 showed problems starting lightdm. and just freezing on startup. around the same shows errors right after install. and now 13.10 shows a third login option that says light display manager..
[10:16] <Evan___> No
[10:17] <Evan___> This is gui
[10:17] <wheatthin> k.. reboot, then find out for yourself. lol
[10:17] <Evan___> http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntuforums
[10:17] <Zorky> geirha:  grep only showed info from .profile
[10:17] <Beldar> Zorky, "8 out of 10"?
[10:17] <Zorky> 8 out  of 10 pc's i recently installed ubuntu on. showed this behaiviour or close to it
[10:18] <Beldar> Zorky, show me the empirical proof of this.
[10:19] <Beldar> I don;t believe you, and I have to wonder your user level to be honest, this conversation is a waste of time.
[10:20] <Zorky> Beldar:  yes it is. aparently you are to arrogant to accept UNITY is flawed
[10:21] <Zorky> but im guessing this channel is of no use to get help from. i'll resort to contacting canonical directly for support regarding my issues now
[10:22] <samuraibsd> Beldar is getting all the ruffled feathers tonight
[10:22] <compdoc> he hurt my feelings
[10:23] <wheatthin> lol of course unity is flawed in some ways. That's why we have a choice. I dunno some people just can't accept stuff for what they are.
[10:24] <wheatthin> it'll get better tho, I have faith
[10:26] <Beldar> statements that have a questionable statistical probability though should be questioned, without the variables included
[10:26] <samuraibsd> Unity, so far has been a less than stellar experience for me. I tried to replace it with Gnome, but beldar saw how that turned out for me
[10:26] <wheatthin> samuraibsd, that just means you didn't go about it the right way.
[10:27] <samuraibsd> It worked fine until I tried to update.
[10:27] <Rory> samuraibsd: There's a version of Ubuntu that comes with Gnome 3 already installed and configured https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuGNOME
[10:27] <wheatthin> samuraibsd, again, you went through the update process wrong. Intead of updating the packages, you updated the release and broke certain stuff.
[10:27] <samuraibsd> I know that now but I can't easily install it so I'm trying to salvage what I can
[10:28] <samuraibsd> I didn't update the release. I'm still on 13.04
[10:28] <samuraibsd> Well, going to 13.10. If its broken already, might as well see how broken we can get it
[10:30] <wheatthin> brb bathroom time 0.o
[10:30] <Beldar> !tmi
[10:30] <Beldar> lol
[10:31] <samuraibsd> So how likely is an in place upgrade to 13.10 to wreck my system?
[10:34] <eyfour> Hi, everyone. Should I report bugs when testing the 14.04 daily images? Or should I wait until 14.04 is in alpha/beta? Thanks.
[10:36] <DJones> eyfour: Probably worth reporting bugs as soon as you can, I'd suggest joining #ubuntu+1 and asking there & maybe giving out some info on the bugs you've found, people their may know if they've been reported & if fixes are on the way
[10:37] <eyfour> DJones: I'll do that, thank you.
[10:37] <Nytram> Hi. I've been asking on #ubuntustudio for a couple of days, but it's rather quiet there. Does anyone here know whether or not I'll cause any issues by installing kde on ubuntustudio in place of xfce?
[10:38] <random> Nytram, have you considered trying it in a virtual machine ?
[10:39] <Nytram> Not really, I have 3tb of drive space so not worried about space and I don't mind doing a clean install. I was more concerned whether some of studio needs xfce for some reason.
[10:40] <Nytram> I'll just do it and see what happens. Thanks for responding.
[10:40] <random> Nytram, good luck
[10:40] <samuraibsd> Is there a wag to get rid of the glass panes over icons in unity?
[10:41] <feveth> Is Mir any easier to configure than X?
[10:42] <kongthap> I believe I haven't installed or updated anything but my folder icons and some other icons are weird https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61719196/56-12/001.png
[10:43] <kongthap> please guide what to do???
[10:44] <Guest81757> Hi..does anyone can help me about  youtube-dl updating..?
[10:44] <Guest81757> its failed by update manager...??
[10:44] <wheatthin> kongthap, that's normal if it doesn't recognize a file extension, it won't know what kind of icon to get
[10:45] <wheatthin> Guest81757, I'd suggest going into console and typing sudo apt-get -f
[10:45] <Evan___> need help making desktop shortcut for ubuntu
[10:45] <wheatthin> lol delete home did ya?
[10:46] <Evan___> $ sudo apt-get install -–no-install-recommends gnome-panel E: Command line option '�' [from -–no-install-recommends] is not known.
[10:46] <feveth> Guest81757: Or, sudo apt-get ugrade or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. Packages that are not verified do not install through Update Manager and must be installed through the terminal.
[10:46] <Evan___> want some terminals
[10:46] <Evan___> http://i.imgur.com/lXcUJpC.png
[10:46] <Evan___> ?
[10:46] <Layke>  Neeed to open some icals... anyone know any packages I can install to open some?
[10:47] <kongthap> wheatthin, they are not files, they are folders...
[10:47] <Evan___> how do i delete all the icals from my computer
[10:47] <wheatthin> kongthap, annnnd?
[10:48] <wheatthin> so change your theme.
[10:48] <Guest81757> feveth thanks its done
[10:49] <kongthap> wheatthin, i didn't change any themes before, i just changed wallpaper, and it was fine before, just last night i just become weird
[10:52] <Evan___> sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[10:52] <Evan___> error
[10:52] <Evan___> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:53] <wheatthin> so close either the package manager, or update manager
[10:53] <Evan___> goal: make terminal desktop shortcut of terminal
[10:53] <wheatthin> Evan___, why not just add it to launcher?
[10:53] <Evan___> no
[10:54] <Evan___> I like big folders
[10:54] <wheatthin> Evan___, a shortcut is not a folder.
[10:54] <Evan___> good
[10:54] <GreekFreak> hi all.
[10:54]  * wheatthin ignores evan.
[10:55] <Evan___> $ sudo apt-get install -–no-install-recommends gnome-panel E: Command line option '�' [from -–no-install-recommends] is not known.
[10:56] <wheatthin> Evan___, I'd read the man pages for apt-get before I tried random options.
[10:56] <random> i didn't gave any options wheatthin
[10:56] <Evan___> I was just trying to install skype
[10:56] <GreekFreak> I was upgrading my server to 13.10 via ssh without screen (lesson learnt :/ ). Needless to say my ssh timed out. Google says that I just need to ssh back in and run do-release-upgrade and it will resume the upgrade, but all it says is "no new release avalable". It got stuck on the confirmation of whether or not I want to update my configuration file. Any advice?
[10:56] <Evan___> with deb
[10:56] <revo3> I'm trying to live-boot saucy from hdd using grub  and during it gets stuck in a loop with "test-builtin error reading /lib/udev/hwdb.bin"  what to do to it to make it work?
[10:57] <wheatthin> random, was that you're suggestion for evan?
[10:57] <wheatthin> obviously it wasn't correct.
[10:57] <Beldar> revo3, Booting the iso on a HD with grub?
[10:57] <random> no, it's because you told "random options". nevermind
[10:57] <Evan___> idk apt-get is super broke
[10:57] <Evan___> on my system
[10:58] <revo3> yep I use a windows machine and i copy the casper folder from the iso and the I add the necessary kernel and initrd to grub ...
[10:58] <revo3> it worked for 12.04 but not for 13 anymore
[10:58] <Beldar> revo3, No dvd/usb?
[10:59] <Beldar> usb flash
[10:59] <revo3> i dont have a dvd drive and I tried with usb using grub4dos but i get the same loop
[10:59] <Evan___> Should I do a auto update?
[10:59] <Evan___> *Should I do an auto update?
[10:59] <wheatthin> revo3, use dd or a similar plugin, to copy the iso info to usb
[10:59] <wheatthin> program*
[11:00] <Evan___> apt-get doesn't work
[11:00] <revo3> iso info care to elaborate what is that?
[11:00] <Beldar> revo3, You don't have to use grub4dos there are handfuls of usb flash loaders
[11:00] <Evan___> lock
[11:00] <revo3> i use grub4 dos to load winpe3, and a host of other firmware flasher based on isos
[11:00] <wheatthin> iso info, information contained on the iso.. all the data that's within the image.
[11:00] <k1l_> Evan___: run a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get upgrade" and show that all in a pastebin
[11:00] <Evan___> $ sudo apt-get update E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (21: Is a directory) E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/ E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:01] <Beldar> revo3, that is winodws not linux.
[11:01] <k1l_> !paste | Evan___
[11:01] <revo3> Beldar, why this procedure worked withe every ubuntu version until 12.04 including but broke on 13 ?
[11:01] <wheatthin> Evan___, close all package and update managers before trying to update through console
[11:01] <ObrienDave> Evan___, that's an error if you have like, synaptic open at the same time
[11:01] <revo3> clearly the scripts are broken
[11:02] <Beldar> revo3, No idea it is a hackneyed way to be honest.
[11:02] <Evan___> my windows just tweaked out
[11:02] <wheatthin> revo3, windows still has DD.. I'd use it.
[11:03] <Evan___> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (21: Is a directory) E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/ E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:03] <ObrienDave> Evan___, that's an error if you have like, synaptic open at the same time
[11:03] <wheatthin> Evan___, posting over and over doesn't get you help any faster.
[11:03] <Evan___> I know
[11:03] <wheatthin> then don't.
[11:03] <Evan___> I'm getting that shit to a pastebin to kill the internet for you
[11:03] <Evan___> *stuff
[11:03] <Evan___> *
[11:03] <FloodBot1> Evan___: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:04] <revo3> wheatthin, simply copying the casper folder to any partition was enough for grub4dos as it properly boot it.. ubuntu screwed up or maybe upstream debian did it
[11:04] <Evan___> I'm using patebun
[11:04] <Evan___> *pastebin
[11:04] <Evan___> pastebin.com
[11:04] <Brandano> Evan___: A bot just told you not to use enter as punctuation, though
[11:04] <wheatthin> either way, it doesn't work now, so use dd and stop complaining
[11:04] <Evan___> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=mihC07Vq
[11:05] <Evan___> INTERNET
[11:05] <revo3> why should I use DD? I don't understand
[11:05] <Brandano> if you type too many messages in a too short time the bots tend to take notice of it
[11:05] <wheatthin> to image your iso to the usb so it can be booted like a dvd
[11:05] <Evan___> shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[11:05] <OerHeks> Evan___,  do you have softwarecenter and terminal opened together? close one of them and try again
[11:05] <Evan___> lol
[11:06] <wheatthin> OerHeks, we've told her, but she doesn't listen.
[11:06] <Beldar> revo3, dd is one way way and apparently wheatthin's only use, however there are handfulls of usb flash loaders.
[11:06] <Evan___> lol
[11:06] <SwedeMike> I use unetbootin when I want to make a working usb stick?
[11:06] <wheatthin> Beldar, It's not my only use, it's my no bs recommendation.
[11:07] <k1l_> SwedeMike: the .iso images are hybrid images and can be put with dd onto a usb, too
[11:07] <Evan___> http://pastebin.com/QNJt7dS7
[11:07] <revo3> its stupid to use a 16gb stick that I multiboot 10 distro only for ubuntu13 because it has broken the livescript
[11:07] <Beldar> wheatthin, Heh, but there are other ways rather than snipping at the user.
[11:07] <ObrienDave> ok, Evan___ is now on her own
[11:07] <Beldar> wheatthin, And at the least telling them how.
[11:07] <wheatthin> Beldar, when they flatly refuse to do it, and all those other programs are derived basically from dd, so either way.
[11:08] <Brandano> Evan___: try /quit
[11:08] <Evan___> http://pastebin.com/6zeBYgh4
[11:08] <Beldar> wheatthin, lol your an idiot.
[11:08] <revo3> where can I go to submit bugrequest for this situation?
[11:08] <wheatthin> Beldar, I'm not supposed to hold their hands. I'm supposed to guide them to the right answer and let them try to figure something out. They can't just stare at the app and be like, uhh what not now? they won't learn.
[11:09] <Evan___> *you're
[11:09] <SwedeMike> k1l_: well, it's easier to use unetbootin on a windows machine than it is to use dd.
[11:10] <Evan___> how to kill 1 root      20   0  3532 1976 1288 S    0  0.0   0:00.54 init
[11:10] <Evan___> $ kill -9 init bash: kill: init: arguments must be process or job IDs
[11:10] <lesshaste> can't believe no one plays checkers/draughts! :)
[11:11] <Evan___> sudo kill -9 init ERROR: garbage process ID "init". Usage:   kill pid ...              Send SIGTERM to every process listed.   kill signal pid ...       Send a signal to every process listed.   kill -s signal pid ...    Send a signal to every process listed.   kill -l                   List all signal names.   kill -L                   List all signal names in a nice table.   kill -l signal            Convert between signal numbers a
[11:11] <wheatthin> I can see evan getting temporarily banned.
[11:11] <Beldar> revo3, for grub4dos and using a HD no where.
[11:11] <k1l_> Evan___: how often should we tell you to use a pastebin, again?
[11:12] <ObrienDave> i can see Evan___ being permanentlt banned
[11:12] <Evan___> Goal: Make ubuntu terminal shortcut on desktop
[11:12] <Beldar> should have been long ago
[11:12] <ObrienDave> *permanently
[11:12] <k1l_> Evan___: didnt you have a apt-get problem?
[11:13] <kongthap> I believe I haven't installed or updated anything but my folder icons and some other icons look so weird now https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61719196/56-12/001.png
[11:13] <ObrienDave> that was because she was using terminal while having synaptic/software center open at the same time
[11:13] <ObrienDave> doesn't work too well
[11:13] <wheatthin> we told her that tho, to close them.. multiple times
[11:14] <ObrienDave> yes, i know.
[11:14] <Beldar> kongthap, looks pretty normal from here, have you changed the theme per-chance
[11:15] <wheatthin> that's what I asked, Beldar, but he said he only changed the "desktop"
[11:15] <kongthap> Beldar, the icons are not unknown file type they are folder icon
[11:15] <wheatthin> some themes don't have folder icons.
[11:16] <kongthap> Beldar, wheatthin,  should i try to change theme??? i meant, i didn't touch anything about changing theme before
[11:16] <Beldar> kongthap, ah the desktop icons.
[11:16] <kongthap> Beldar, what did you meant???
[11:16] <leszek> hi what is the live boot option to get the /cow directory on the live system ?
[11:17] <wheatthin> lol /cow directory?
[11:17] <Beldar> kongthap, files on the desktop, and I see in dropbox
[11:17] <ObrienDave> kongthap, different themes have different icons for everything. yours apparently changed the desktop icons. try a different theme
[11:17] <wheatthin> as I suggested. hmm
[11:18] <kongthap> wheatthin, what you saw in the dropbox folder they are all folders not files
[11:18] <wheatthin> kongthap, ^^^
[11:19] <kongthap> wheatthin, also the icons on the desktop they are sym links folder icons
[11:19] <kongthap> ObrienDave, i will try to change to other themes
[11:19] <Evan___> $ sudo apt-get install -–no-install-recommends gnome-panel [sudo] password for evankizer:  E: Command line option '�' [from -–no-install-recommends] is not known.
[11:20] <Evan___> How can I get this junk to work?
[11:20] <wheatthin> by using the commands right, obviously Evan___
[11:21] <ObrienDave> and LISTENING to what people are telling you
[11:21] <kongthap> unity is theme or desktop environment???
[11:21] <Evan___> I'm trying to fix apt-get on my computer.
[11:21] <wheatthin> desktop environment like gnome
[11:21] <Evan___> I'm trying to reinstall apt-get on my computer.
[11:22] <OerHeks> unity is a layer on top of gnome3
[11:22] <wheatthin> Evan___, no you aren't.
[11:22] <wheatthin> and there's no need.
[11:22] <Evan___> Yeah I was
[11:22] <k1l_> kongthap: unity is a sehll for gnome3-base like gnome-shell is too
[11:22] <k1l_> *shell
[11:23] <kongthap> k1l_, i didn't do anything about shell but why icons inside firefox are changed too???
[11:23] <Evan___> sudo aptitude reinstall packagename sudo: aptitude: command not found
[11:23] <Evan___> $ sudo aptitude reinstall packagename sudo: aptitude: command not found
[11:24] <wheatthin> aptitude isn't installed.
[11:24] <ObrienDave> Evan___, aptitude is NOT apt-get
[11:24] <Evan___> well I'll go try to find a deb i guess
[11:24] <k1l_> Evan___: if you put just random commands into you terminal that wont help
[11:24] <ObrienDave> Evan___, sudo apt-get update
[11:25] <ObrienDave> what do you get?
[11:25] <Evan___> The skype deb is missing from my computer now.
[11:25] <Evan___> I don't get it
[11:26]  * ObrienDave gives up on Evan___ 
[11:26] <Evan___> I wonder if Wine is gone yet.
[11:29] <Evan___> apt-get get-deb-file aptitude E: Invalid operation get-deb-file
[11:29] <Evan___> $ apt-get get-deb-file aptitude E: Invalid operation get-deb-file
[11:31] <ObrienDave> thank you, k1l_
[11:39] <mika__> I have 12.04 LTS and now if i select from efi bios i can choose what OS i start (win7 or ubuntu), but when i try to select windows 7 (loader) from grub it says: invalid arch independt elf magic, no such device... Both OS still works, but without grub selection.
[11:40] <Layke> What's the correct way to update PATH vars? Do I just update ~/.pam_environment ?
[11:41] <wheatthin> Layke, you can do it a few ways, but preferably in ~/.profile
[11:41] <Layke> wheatthin, I thought ~/.profile, but it says not recommended any more?
[11:41] <Layke> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[11:43] <mika__> correction, linux works from grub also.
[11:43] <zie0150> dnup_1092, I hope you found the solution of the kernel problem
[11:43] <ksinkar> what kind of users are listed on the unity login screen?
[11:44] <wheatthin> I see.. well then I guess so.
[11:44] <ksinkar> e.g. we cannot see the postgres user on the login screen
[11:44] <ice9> what is the Virtuoso-t in the KDE?
[11:44] <wheatthin> ice9, wouldn't it be easier to google than answer?
[11:45] <wheatthin> that*
[11:45] <zie0150> amit_, have you changed your username
[11:45] <kn0thing> Hey guys, is there any particular reason why ubuntu 13.10's mdadm is not creating /dev/md/XX but breaking if it's not there?
[11:45] <elichai2> after i updated my ubuntu to 13.04 my OS not exactly loading
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> elichai2: which version did you upgrade from?
[11:46] <amit_> zie0150, yes
[11:46] <elichai2> ActionParsnip: ammm i think 12.10
[11:46] <elichai2> so i tried this:
[11:46] <elichai2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[11:46] <elichai2> (update failure)
[11:46] <remoteCTRL> hi all :)
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> elichai2: what happens when you try to boot?
[11:47] <elichai2> and when i try the commnand 'apt-get update' in the livecd after i mount my partition i get on every repo 'failed to fetch'
[11:47] <ice9> wheatthin, if I found the answer I wouldn't ask here!
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> elichai2: what happens when you try to boot?
[11:48] <elichai2> ActionParsnip: this is the thing, at the start i couldn't even boot but after i tried a lot of things my OS is booting but i've got a lot of problems(i.e i can't connect to wifi\ethernet)
[11:48] <wheatthin> http://www.spinics.net/linux/fedora/fedora-kde/msg09058.html   ice9
[11:48] <elichai2> so i dont remember which error i had
[11:48] <wheatthin> thus by google result.
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> elichai2: do you just get a black screen then nothing?
[11:50] <elichai2> i think so
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> elichai2: can you attempt a boot so you know what is happening
[11:51] <elichai2> ActionParsnip: i know that for now it's does booting by i got a lot of problems
[11:52] <elichai2> i.e: can't connect to any wifi/network
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> elichai2: what video chip do you use?
[11:52] <mika__> i just need to add something to grub, because linux is working and without grub windows is working. hmm
[11:52] <elichai2> ActionParsnip: you know what, i will just boot right now
[11:53] <wheatthin> mika__, are you on a UEFI system?
[11:53] <wheatthin> mika__, I think you just have to run sudo update-grub. it should recognize windows boot
[11:54] <mika__> wheatthin, i have P8P67 motherboard where i can select legacy or that other option
[11:54] <elichai2> ActionParsnip: *i ment i tried to install 13.10
[11:54] <mika__> wheatthin, i tried that already also after that grub-efi
[11:54] <HardWareGuy> Video Card Question:  I have an 8800GT and 7770, can I run AMD and nVidia cards at the same time like I can on windows? I use the 7770 for GPGPU.
[11:56] <wheatthin> HardWareGuy, should be able to.
[11:56] <bits_> hello
[11:56] <elichai2> ActionParsnip: lol i just fixed the wifi problem, i will upgrade all the packages and see if all getting fixed
[11:56] <elichai2> one last thing
[11:57] <elichai2> what to do if i edited the "/var/lib/dpkg/status" file and deleted a lot of things?
[11:58] <elichai2> ActionParsnip: ?
[11:59] <wheatthin> mika__, have you tried 'boot-repair' option?
[12:00] <mika__> wheatthin, nope not yet, i will now. so i have to install boot-repair to live?
[12:00] <wheatthin> no, it should have it.
[12:01] <arvut> why can't ubuntu 13.10 64bit run skype properly?
[12:01] <mika__> wheatthin, OK lets see :) booting...
[12:01] <ActionPa1snip> arvut: works ok here
[12:01] <arvut> ActionPa1snip: its fixed now?
[12:01] <k1l_> !rootirc | arvut
[12:02] <arvut> k1l_: screw that. you can rootkit me all you want
[12:02] <ActionPa1snip> arvut: depends on the system. Skype has always just worked here
[12:02] <arvut> its a vbox with a temporary livesession
[12:03] <elichai2> ActionPa1snip: got any idea how to reset the "/var/lib/dpkg/status" file?(i deleted alf of it)
[12:04] <ActionPa1snip> elichai2: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[12:04] <k1l_> arvut: you are not supposed to be root in ubuntu. that can cause problems
[12:04] <wheatthin> arvut, the thing you aren't getting, is even if it's temporary, it's still not recommended. Pivoting can happen, even temporarily
[12:04] <ActionPa1snip> elichai2: or, just run the comamnds in the script line by line, same difference
[12:04] <arvut> ActionPa1snip: a quick google on skype and ubuntu 13.10 keywords comes up with loads of issues. I've not tried it myself but a friend of mine who just installed linux (and he choose ubuntu.. *sigh*). He encountered segfaults when answering or making a call tho. and there were documented bugs with the sound being lagged and so on.
[12:05] <ActionPa1snip> arvut: oh definately, but here on my system it works.
[12:05] <arvut> k1l_: I'm not in ubuntu. so get it over with, im aware.
[12:05] <Overlordz> skype was working fine for me when i was in 13.10
[12:05] <arvut> wheatthin: and I'm aware =)
[12:05] <arvut> cloaked and tripple NAT'ed
[12:05] <k1l_> arvut: ok. then good luck with that attitude.
[12:05] <Overlordz> tell him to install skype from the ubuntu repository and not from the skype website
[12:06] <arvut> Overlordz: he did both, none worked
[12:06] <ActionPa1snip> arvut: could try another distro, see if it is the same (not debian based)
[12:07] <arvut> k1l_: if you want a temporary rootshell in my gentoo admincd environment then simply say so, I'm not here to bitch about root@irc or such nonsense. I'm here to help out a friend with his ubuntu issues as I have more experience with ubuntu than he does even tho I rarely use it these days.
[12:08] <ActionPa1snip> arvut: is it the same when logged in as a fresh Ubuntu user on the same system?
[12:08] <Overlordz> arvut, guessing he's tried the setting PULSE_LATENCY_MSEC=30 deal?
[12:08] <arvut> ActionPa1snip: seems to be a 13.04 / 13.10 issue. So if I can find a solution to fix it for him without having to say he has to reinstall or migrate to other distro (took me 1½ year to convince him to run linux anyway).
[12:08] <arvut> then that would be sweet.
[12:09] <ActionPa1snip> arvut: try making a new ubuntu user, log in as it then run skype, is it better?
[12:09] <arvut> if not, then sure, other distro is already suggested, first thought was to downgrade to last LTS tho
[12:10] <grahamsavage> is there anyway to name and disable/enable a particular crontask programatically?
[12:10] <arvut> ActionPa1snip: are you just brainstorming or do you think that would actually solve the issue? I'll give it a try in a bit. got a vbox running ubuntu 13.10 that is installing now
[12:10] <ActionPa1snip> arvut: I'd go the LTS path, you can then upgrade directly to Trusy in April next year as it is LTS to LTS upgrade
[12:10] <arvut> yeah
[12:10] <somsip> grahamsavage: you can pipe it through sed in bash
[12:10] <ActionPa1snip> arvut: the new user path is called 'investigating the issue'
[12:10] <MasterOfDisaster> grahamsavage: edit your crontab?
[12:10] <arvut> that is what I thought, sweet deal
[12:11] <jrib> grahamsavage: use /etc/cron.* and a file (meant for package use).  But why?
[12:11] <MasterOfDisaster> grahamsavage: it's in /var/spool/cron/ IIRC
[12:11] <ActionPa1snip> arvut: you can see if the settings stored in the current user are causing the problem, if the new user is OK then you know the OS is good but the user settings are at fault
[12:11] <grahamsavage> jrib: we have about 14 tasks that make sure everything works, and then kills and  restarts stuff if it doesn't
[12:12] <grahamsavage> jrib: but when we are doing a deployment, i don't want everything starting up after we have shut it down
[12:12] <arvut> ActionPa1snip: I see how you're thinking now. I'll have to teach him how useradd works then
[12:13] <somsip> grahamsavage: crontab -l | sed "{some clever sed command}" | crontab -
[12:13] <ActionPa1snip> arvut: or SSH over and do it for him / her :)
[12:13] <arvut> btw, is there a better alternative to "screen -xRR" if both parts of a ssh connection (the host and client) wants to see all input/ouput in the ssh session?
[12:14] <somsip> grahamsavage: I wrap groups of cronjobs in #START and #END and delete them using  sed "/^$CRONTAB_START/,/^$CRONTAB_END/d"
[12:14] <arvut> ActionPa1snip: thats what we do, but we set up a screen -xRR so he can actually learn something and so that I can watch him try different things and tell him what he did wrong
[12:14] <ActionPa1snip> arvut: awesome, like the approach
[12:15] <joelio> am I missing something with the ca-certificates package in precise. It's still at 20111211, whereas raring/saucy are at 20130119. There have been recovations, so trying to understand why it's not been updated, if there's something that happens outside of the dpkg system (!?) or it's a fault
[12:15] <arvut> ActionPa1snip: yeah, screen is sweet.
[12:15] <grahamsavage> somsip: good tip .. thanks :)
[12:15] <ActionPa1snip> joelio: I suggest you report a bug
[12:16] <joelio> ActionPa1snip: will do
[12:17] <anmup> admin
[12:17] <anmup> i need help
[12:17] <igorgarciaruiz> good morning guys
[12:18] <somsip> grahamsavage: FWIW http://paste.ubuntu.com/6514145/
[12:27] <niger> do you read me?
[12:27] <niger> hello
[12:27] <niger> someone can read me?
[12:29] <philinux> !ask
[12:29] <mika__> wheatthin: It is working now :)
[12:30] <wheatthin> mika__, congrats :)
[12:30] <jin_> hi guys, how can i run a specific daemon as a non-root user on boot?
[12:31] <ActionPa1snip> jin_: yes, this happens all the time
[12:31] <niger> ok i was worry that my xchat didn't function
[12:31] <philinux> niger;~ looks like it worky fine
[12:32] <philinux> jin_;~ put it in the startup apps open dash type startup
[12:32] <jin_> philinux: i don't have gui access.
[12:33] <niger> how can i monitor my hard disk? It does some stranges sounds
[12:33] <jin_> i read that i can create a conf file in /etc/init, but i'm not sure on what to include
[12:33] <ObrienDave> niger, what kind of strange sounds?
[12:33] <philinux> jin_;~ http://askubuntu.com/questions/178567/how-to-add-a-program-as-startup-application-from-terminal
[12:34] <minstrell> hello everyone, I asked freenode guys about this but they referred me here for it seems related to irc clients on ubuntu.
[12:34] <niger> sometimes it does a little sounds like a "tin"
[12:34] <raghu> hello
[12:34] <minstrell> I cannot start URLs for irc channels (irc://chat.freenode.net/##mychannel)
[12:34] <minstrell> it used to work but after reinstall it doesnt
[12:35] <philinux> niger;~ open dash type disk and check it with Disks - click the gear top right and choose smart  data
[12:35] <raghu> Please tell if any body know when is ubuntu going to be launched on phones(not nexus 5...I mean common phones)?
[12:36] <DJones> !touch | raghu Best place to ask will be in this link,
[12:36] <niger> Do i open BIOS?
[12:36] <DJones> raghu: But I've not heard anything, not even rumours
[12:36] <philinux> niger;~ no dash top left big button on left launcher
[12:37] <raghu> yeah djones ...
[12:37] <raghu> may be they are keeping its profile low...
[12:37] <k1l_> raghu: best is to ask the phone specialists in #ubuntu-touch
[12:38] <niger> ok i found it and now?
[12:38] <raghu> yeah...Thanks k1l_...
[12:39] <niger> ok ok i do it, It says that disk is in good condition
[12:39] <niger> but there are some parameters N/D
[12:39] <osubuntu> hi
[12:40] <osubuntu> i hav samsung laptop
[12:40] <osubuntu> and x server wont use my radeon card
[12:40] <philinux> niger;~ if it says passed thats good. Are you sure its the disk and not the fan making noise?
[12:40] <osubuntu> fglrx or official website download wont help
[12:40] <ActionPa1snip> osubuntu: what exact GPU do you have?
[12:40] <osubuntu> its weird
[12:40] <osubuntu> because
[12:40] <ActionPa1snip> osubuntu: what exact GPU do you have?
[12:40] <osubuntu> i have both VGA compatible controller
[12:40] <osubuntu> and Display controller
[12:40] <osubuntu> and they are differenct
[12:40] <FloodBot1> osubuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:41] <ActionPa1snip> osubuntu: that's normal, what ATI GPU do you have?
[12:41] <osubuntu> nee!
[12:41] <niger> yes i'm sure because it's the typical sund of ah HD that starts to broken
[12:41] <osubuntu> 01:00.0 Display controller [0380]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Mars [Radeon HD 8670A/8750M] [1002:6600]
[12:41] <ActionPa1snip> osubuntu: or does the system have a make and model?
[12:41] <ActionPa1snip> osubuntu: ok and what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[12:41] <osubuntu> dmesg doesnt mention my 2nd graphics
[12:42] <osubuntu> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[12:42] <philinux> niger;~ if disks says it's ok then just keep an eye on it and backup any data
[12:42] <osubuntu> it refers to raring
[12:42] <niger> ok thank you
[12:42] <hddyad> hi i wan install ubuntu 13.10 server use text mode instaler
[12:42] <CatKiller> Disks who are wearing out don't make particular "breaking soon" sounds
[12:42] <ActionPa1snip> osubuntu: I know, ive been using Ubuntu a long time and I am an Ubuntu member
[12:42] <osubuntu> (i asked ubuntuforums and askubuntu which led me to bump)
[12:42] <CatKiller> otherwise we'd all have a way to tell when they are about to fail
[12:42] <ActionPa1snip> osubuntu: does your CPU have an inbuilt GPU (sandy/ivybridge)?
[12:42] <hddyad> and not want show GUI installer
[12:43] <osubuntu> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller [8086:0166] (rev 09)
[12:43] <CatKiller> If the drive has many reallocated sectors that's an indication
[12:43] <ActionPa1snip> osubuntu: is this a laptop?
[12:43] <osubuntu> yeah
[12:43] <ActionPa1snip> osubuntu: doe sit have a make and model?
[12:43] <osubuntu> it looked like hybrid but switcheroo absent even the modset=1 and update-grub
[12:43] <osubuntu> i googled billion times which led me to nothing
[12:44] <ActionPa1snip> osubuntu: doesnt answer my questiojn
[12:44] <osubuntu> model?
[12:44] <osubuntu> make and model?
[12:44] <ActionPa1snip> osubuntu: yes
[12:44] <osubuntu> GNU Make 3.81
[12:44] <osubuntu> and
[12:44] <osubuntu> NT370R5E samsung laptop
[12:44] <ActionPa1snip> osubuntu: no, of the system, is it a Todshiba? An ASUS?
[12:44] <ActionPa1snip> osubuntu: better :)
[12:44] <hddyad> how can boot cd ubuntu installer with text installer?
[12:45] <osubuntu> bddyad, use the grub menu
[12:45] <osubuntu> It makes me annoying since the integrated one only works and my game is slow and boinc doesnt work
[12:45] <ActionPa1snip> osubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics   may help. Hybrid graphics are to avoided imho
[12:45] <osubuntu> it didnt help
[12:46] <osubuntu> the driver said no supported adapters detected and DKMS module compile failure
[12:46] <osubuntu> amdcccle and aticonfig also said such like that even if lspci says i have radeon card
[12:46] <osubuntu> i hope there is nothing wrong with my bios which have few settings
[12:46] <ActionPa1snip> osubuntu: considering Raring is EOL mid January next year (giving 30 days support) have you considered upgrading to Saucy which will then allow you to upgrade to Trusty in April which is LTS?
[12:47] <jin_> philinux: thanks, i ended up using crontab's @reboot option
[12:47] <osubuntu> Then ill consider upgrading saucy which might solve the problem that is not solved by bleeding edge packages....
[12:47] <osubuntu> (Ill delete bleeding edges from sources when do-release-upgrade)
[13:11] <jpentland> !botsnack
[13:12] <bow_> hi everybody. I'm new to linux. I got a question. what is the difference between shell script and bash script? aren't they the same thing?
[13:14] <zomGreg-m> All bash scripts are shell scripts. Not all shell scripts are bash scripts.
[13:14] <hitsujiTMO> bow_: shell script can refer to any generic shell script. bash is a specific shell
[13:18] <bow_> can the msdos batch file in windows be classified as shell script too then?
[13:20] <theadmin> bow_: Yes, naturally
[13:20] <denis__> now i am using XChat
[13:20] <zomGreg-m> Is dos a shell?
[13:20] <theadmin> bow_: Except the Windows command line isn't usually referred to as a "shell", but
[13:20] <theadmin> bow_: The concept is identical regardless
[13:21] <bow_> hmm. interesting. so in my linux(lubuntu), bash is a shell app, then can an OS use more than one shell app?
[13:22] <theadmin> bow_: Yes, there's a *huge* variety of shells for GNU/Linux, including Bash (the default in Ubuntu), sh, zsh, fish, ksh, csh, uh...
[13:22] <theadmin> bow_: There's probably others I don't know of
[13:23] <bow_> how do I know what my linux use in default?
[13:23] <theadmin> bow_: echo $0
[13:23] <eg0x> or look at /etc/passwd
[13:23] <theadmin> Or that.
[13:24] <bow_> well it contains a huge list of .... env vars??
[13:25] <bow_> but echo $0 says /bin/bash
[13:25] <bow_> thx for the info
[13:26] <Pricey> theadmin: Except for when dash is hte default? ;-)
[13:27] <hggdh> bow_: the default shell is, usually, the one at /bin/sh, and it is usually a soft link.
[13:27] <theadmin> Pricey: bash is the default login shell for new users in Ubuntu, and even root, no?
[13:28] <theadmin> Pricey: Looking at pretty much the default passwd tells me that
[13:28] <denis__> xchat
[13:29] <Pricey> theadmin: I'm pretty sure /bin/sh links to dash... so although yes passwd might say bash, if you're not careful then certain scripts will be run in dash.
[13:30] <theadmin> Pricey: Well, when scripts have #!/bin/sh as their shebang, they expect a sh-compatible shell
[13:30] <theadmin> Pricey: Which dash is. So it's all good.
[13:30] <Pricey> theadmin: But it definitely isn't bash ;-)
[13:31] <theadmin> Pricey: Well, yes. Having /bin/sh link to bash would be madness as they are not compatible,
[13:31] <theadmin> s/\,$/./
[13:32] <Pricey> theadmin: My point is that you say the "default in Ubuntu" is bash. It isn't. It's the default for user login shells but the default system shell, under which many scripts are run is dash.
[13:32] <hggdh> theadmin: sort of. All system scripts should be free of bashisms.
[13:33] <theadmin> Pricey: I'm not strictly sure what a "system shell" is, how is that defined?
[13:34] <Pricey> theadmin: "/bin/sh". https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh
[13:34] <Pricey> !dash
[13:35] <theadmin> Pricey: Ah, okay, well then. My bad.
[13:35] <hydra7> can we create a partition for windows from gparted?
[13:36] <hydra7> in ubuntu
[13:36] <[Gentoo]> yes
[13:36] <bow_> hmm so when I execute script in a non-desktop mode, dash will run instead of bash?
[13:36] <[Gentoo]> hydra7: just format it as ntfs
[13:36] <theadmin> hydra7: Sure, why not, just make an NTFS partition (make sure you have ntfsprogs installed)
[13:36] <[Gentoo]> theadmin: hi
[13:36] <theadmin> bow_: Whatever is specified on the first line of the script will be used. e.g. if the first line is #!/bin/bash, it will use bash, if it's #!/bin/sh it will use dash.
[13:37] <osubuntu> do-release-upgrade seems to upgrade the ubuntu
[13:37] <theadmin> osubuntu: That is correct.
[13:37] <hydra7> another question theadmin why the i see different disk sizes in Windows when compared to Ubuntu?
[13:38] <[Gentoo]> hydra7: how do you mean
[13:38] <[Gentoo]> are you reading it generally like 21GB
[13:38] <osubuntu> apt-get dist-upgrade doesnt seem to upgrade the cersion since it is for debian but ubuntu
[13:38] <bow_> ok, that clears things up. thanks @theadmin
[13:38] <theadmin> hydra7: Sizes? Uh. Not sure what you mean, but that might be due to a different inerpretation of sizes, Nautilus seems to assume that 1KB = 1000B, so stuff appears larger than it really is :/
[13:38] <osubuntu> It is not cersion but distro version
[13:38] <osubuntu> 1kb is 1024b :/
[13:38] <DJones> !dist-upgrade | osubuntu
[13:39] <[Gentoo]> osubuntu: some things take different units
[13:39] <osubuntu> Of course i know :p
[13:39] <hydra7> like 99.99gb in windows and 107 in ubuntu theadmin
[13:39] <[Gentoo]> i think most file managers let you choose
[13:39] <Nach0z> anyone know where the default files that phpize uses are on ubuntu?
[13:39] <philinux> osubuntu;~ update-manager -d is what I use
[13:39] <Nach0z> the ones it copies/modifies for the configure script?
[13:39] <Pricey> !no dash is <reply>/bin/sh links to the DASH shell in all releases since Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using  BASH by changing the first line of the script to « #! /bin/bash | See also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh
[13:40] <Pricey> theadmin: Sarcasm: I don't possibly see how this could be confusing⸮ ;-)
[13:40] <osubuntu> theadmin, you can change nautilus configuration in preference window
[13:40] <k1l_> osubuntu: ubuntu uses the update-manager (or do-release-upgrade) for release upgrades and not dist-upgrade and manually changing the sources.list like debian
[13:40] <osubuntu> To change calculation or you can compile the nautilus
[13:40] <theadmin> osubuntu: Ah, nice.
[13:41] <theadmin> osubuntu: I can't find that setting, but oh well
[13:41] <k1l_> philinux: -d is just for development releases.
[13:41] <osubuntu> You are allowed to modify source of nautilus only if you know what you're doing and do not break dependencies
[13:41] <browndawg> Hey. I'm dual booting with Windows 8 and don't have a dedicated swap partition (running a swap file). I installed uswsusp and tried using s2disk to hibernate the system. Everything goes normally and the system powers off after saying it's dumped everything to disk, but it doesn't resume. When I power the system back on, it boots as if I'd shut it down, completely ignoring the swapfile it's supposed to be restoring from. Any ideas?
[13:41] <theadmin> osubuntu: That is obvious, it is FOSS
[13:42] <[Gentoo]> browndawg: hibernation is bad
[13:42] <osubuntu> browndawg, are you installed it by wubi
[13:42] <osubuntu> Are > did
[13:42] <osubuntu> Wubi doesnt support hibernation
[13:42] <browndawg> Any idea how to get hibernation to work properly? I even tried increasing the size of the swapfile to 2x my RAM. Still doesn't work.
[13:42] <osubuntu> File swap is unstable
[13:43] <Nach0z> wubi almost doesn't support wubi >__>
[13:43] <[Gentoo]> hibernation is unstable
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> osubuntu: how so?
[13:43] <osubuntu> ActionParsnip, Im going to sleep soon
[13:43] <cfhowlett> browndawg, wubi is dying/dead. look into dual booting or virtualization of your secondary OS.  Virtualbox works quite well in most cases
[13:43] <osubuntu> Yeah
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> osubuntu: the partition used for swap is seen as a file in Linux, everything is a file, so there is no difference between using a file and a partition as they are the same thing, a file
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> osubuntu: so there is literally zero difference
[13:44] <ObrienDave> browndawg, i used this: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/10/enable-hibernation-ubuntu-13-10/
[13:44] <osubuntu> But
[13:44] <browndawg> cfhowlett, osubuntu: No! It's on a separate partition.
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> osubuntu: so how is it unstable
[13:44] <osubuntu> Okay
[13:44] <browndawg> and pretty sure the newer kernels have decent support
[13:44] <osubuntu> Yeah partition is just /dev/sdan
[13:44] <browndawg> for hibernation
[13:44] <osubuntu> Yeah
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> osubuntu: what makes it unstable exactly?
[13:44] <yellabs-r2> is there an program that can convert a text file with e-mail to vcard ?
[13:44] <osubuntu> There might be holes or size problem
[13:44] <[Gentoo]> maybe he imagines a partition to be more "solid"
[13:45] <osubuntu> If not just ignore that
[13:45] <browndawg> ObrienDave: pm-hibernate doesn't work. I googled around and it says a lot of pmutil versions aren't great with swapfiles.
[13:45] <ObrienDave> k
[13:45] <osubuntu> then did u check dmesg or other stuff
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> osubuntu: please dont spread FUD, or people in the know will call you on it and you'll look foolish
[13:45] <browndawg> Which is why I installed uswsusp in the first place
[13:45] <osubuntu> Fud? What is it
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> !fud
[13:46] <osubuntu> I see
[13:46] <osubuntu> Thx
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> yellabs-r2: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1600354.html
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> yellabs-r2: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man3/Text::vCard.3pm.html
[13:46] <osubuntu> At least hibernation doesnt work woth wubi
[13:46] <osubuntu> Woth>with
[13:47] <browndawg> I told you, I'm not using wubi.
[13:47] <osubuntu> Good did you check dmesg
[13:47] <yellabs-r2> thanks , i will read it first ...
[13:47] <osubuntu> or pm related stuff
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> yellabs-r2: http://sourceforge.net/projects/vcf2csv/    is teh other way around, maybe there is an opposite of that, maybe the develpoer has made it
[13:48] <osubuntu> What was the latest distro again?
[13:48] <philinux> k1l_;~ I though he said he wanted to upgrade saucy -  to trusty i thought
[13:48] <osubuntu> Saucy?
[13:48] <osubuntu> 13.10?
[13:48] <cfhowlett> !saucy
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> osubuntu: thats the release name, the distro is still ubuntu
[13:49] <browndawg> look at what the boot log says
[13:49] <osubuntu> I mean last distro version codename
[13:49] <browndawg> swapon: /swapfile: software suspend data detected. Rewriting the swap signature.
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> osubuntu: saucy is the latest stable ubuntu release, Trusty is in development and wil be 14.04 released in April next year
[13:49] <browndawg> It detects suspend data but can't resume from it?
[13:50] <osubuntu> Any other things related with hibernation?
[13:50] <eden> anyone knows how can i get the clocks in gnome 3?
[13:50] <eden> http://www.gnome.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/window-selection-3.10.png
[13:50] <osubuntu> dmesg | grep "swap|suspend"
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> oscailt: that needs egrep, grep won't process the quotes
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> oh well
[13:56] <philinux> ActionParsnip;~ or grep -E
[14:00] <barlefante> hello I have a problem setting resolution on my Intel Extreme Graphics, on xubuntu. Need help saving config. permanantly
[14:02] <barlefante> any ideas=
[14:06] <barlefante> I was on xubuntu channel and was told to come here
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> philinux: egrep is an alias for that ;)
[14:07] <philinux> ActionParsnip;~ always more than one way lol.
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> philinux: absolutely :)
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> philinux: oh, apparently running 'which egrep' yields /bin/egrep
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> philinux: strange
[14:08] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: It's not an alias, but a program of equivalent functionality.
[14:10] <barlefante> ?
[14:11] <fenrig> Hi
[14:11] <fenrig> Are the 13.10 saucy repo's down or something?
[14:11] <dondopa> How do you make one user be able only to have read access but not write access to a samba share using only the smb.conf file?
[14:12] <philinux> fenrig;~ gb sources worky fine here
[14:12] <fenrig> philinux: GB sources?
[14:12] <philinux> fenrig;~ great britain gb
[14:13] <philinux> fenrig;~ are you on main server?
[14:13] <fenrig> Well we have a vmware esxi, with linux vm's installed on top of the blades
[14:13] <fenrig> pilinux: we tried be and us servers
[14:13] <philinux> fenrig;~ try main
[14:13] <researcher> I have instlled LAMP on my alptop.Now how to run mysql?
[14:14] <fenrig> researcher: sudo service mysqld start
[14:15] <Rootbrian> fenrig: tried making sure the vm's have access to the network adapter?
[14:16] <researcher> fenrig: I got this message:"Job is already running:mysql"
[14:16] <fenrig> Rootbrian: well we have one lan virtual switch and then one vm that has access to the lan and the wan (which has the real physical interface"
[14:16] <fenrig> researcher: sudo serivce mysqld restart
[14:16] <dondopa> How do you make one user be able only to have read access but not write access to a samba share using only the smb.conf file?
[14:17] <fenrig> (but mysql is already working, so I don't know if you have to restart it perse)
[14:18] <researcher> fenrig: I got this "mysql start/running, process 8919"
[14:19] <fenrig> researcher: thus mysql is working
[14:19] <researcher> I want to build professional form using mysql.LAMP it to do next?.Whanstalled
[14:19] <yakko> hey guys, can I have some love here? I'm trying to install a legacy version of firefox on my ubuntu server (so I can use selenium), I found out I can just download the compiled package and run it, but where should I best make the symbolic links? /usr/bin (I'm not good with installing stuff, please help)
[14:20] <theadmin> researcher: MySQL is a database management system. It doesn't have "forms".
[14:20] <theadmin> yakko: /usr/local/bin would be your best option.
[14:21] <researcher> theadmin: i want to creat database also.how to do that?
[14:21] <theadmin> yakko: Also, I'd call the link something like "firefox-1.0" or such, so that it doesn't interfere with the default "firefox" command.
[14:21] <yakko> theadmin: so I should link /path/to/firefox to /usr/local/bin/firefox, correct?
[14:21] <theadmin> researcher: CREATE DATABASE [Database name here];
[14:21] <theadmin> researcher: ...in the MySQL shell. Or use a tool like PhpMyAdmin for easier administration.
[14:22] <researcher> theadmin: where do i type command?
[14:22] <theadmin> researcher: In the MySQL shell. Run "mysql" and type that in.
[14:22] <researcher> theadmin: how to install phpmyadmin
[14:23] <theadmin> researcher: I'm not sure about how to do that on Ubuntu, I prefer text-based DB administration.
[14:23] <researcher> ok
[14:23] <yash069> researcher: apt-get install phpmyadmin (should work)
[14:23] <philinux> with sudo it will
[14:24] <dondopa> How do you make one user have only read-only access to a samba share?
[14:24] <yash069> philinux: i have a bad habit of using my box with root
[14:24] <dondopa> How do you make one user have only read-only access to a samba share using smb.conf?
[14:25] <yash069> dondopa: read only = username moreusername evenmoreusername
[14:25] <dondopa> Where do you put it?
[14:25] <dondopa> In the Global settings?
[14:26] <foobarbazquux> test
[14:26] <theadmin> !test | foobarbazquux
[14:26] <yash069> dondopa: for the share u want that user to have read only access
[14:26] <dondopa> yes
[14:27] <theadmin> dondopa: That is, under that share's section.
[14:27] <fenrig> well we are having trouble using apt-get update -.-
[14:27] <fenrig> we get a lot of 404's at the end :/
[14:27] <yash069> fenrig: what trouble ?
[14:27] <yash069> oh
[14:28] <fenrig> the ubuntu server are behind an arch linux with iptables and dnsmasq
[14:28] <yash069> fenrig: first check ur dns settings
[14:28] <philinux> fenrig;~ sounds like your vm nor seeing net. try terminal ping www.google.com
[14:28] <fenrig> philinux: ping www.google.com is working
[14:28] <fenrig> already tried that :D
[14:28] <philinux> fenrig;~ change server to main or even gb
[14:29] <philinux> in software sources
[14:29] <researcher> I have just installed phpmyadmin.Now cant log in.What is username here?
[14:30] <ToXiC> Servus
[14:30] <yash069> researcher: same user as mysql
[14:30] <yash069> or maybe root and blank
[14:30] <fidel_> researcher: default username might be root
[14:30] <OerHeks> researcher, read some manual first > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/phpMyAdmin
[14:33] <researcher> thanks all.I used username root and password as was given during installation of phymyadmin
[14:34] <yash069> :)
[14:43] <barlefante> hi I need help with my resolution settings
[14:44] <barlefante> only work if I use root shell before login screen
[14:47] <yash069> barlefante: which version of ubuntu is cause such problem ?
[14:47] <yash069> it never cause such problem (something fishy)
[14:47] <jmgk> yash069:  hello
[14:51] <kevin__> any help with ubuntu Partitions?
[14:51] <theadmin> kevin__: Please provide a full question with as much detail as possible in order to get an answer.
[14:53] <foo357_> Hello, I have a ubuntu machine I want to login to remotely. It has a graphical desktop environment and I want that for remote logins. What software should I use?
[14:53] <auronandace> !vnc | foo357
[14:53] <theadmin> foo357_: If proprietary software is fine, TeamViewer is the easiest to configure, otherwise consider VNC.
[14:54] <sagotsky1> @Hawkerz, TY again for helping yesterday.  I got things fixed this morning.  Booted to a livecd and saved lsmod (among other things).  Compared it to my installation's lsmod and noticed all the hid* modules were missing and wouldn't modprobe.  Reinstalled my linux-image extra package and the modules came back.  Didn't even need to reboot at that point.
[14:55] <sagotsky1> Still unsure how they got screwed up to begin with, but at least it's fixed.
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> foo357_: what is the purpose of the connection?
[14:56] <foo357_> auronandace: I've looked at the instructions for VNC and it seems that connecting is a bit bothersome.. you'd first have to establish a ssh connection and *then* start a vnc session.
[14:56] <foo357_> ActionParsnip: Like SSH but getting a graphical DE, not just a terminal.
[15:03] <CEnnis91> anyone have any advice for installing a radeon hd6450
[15:03] <CEnnis91> on 13.04
[15:05] <kevin__> I second that with new drivers for Nvidia 310M on Ubuntu 13.04
[15:05] <jin_> foo357_: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/3-logmein-alternatives-ubuntu/
[15:05] <jin_> foo357_: there's not really a need to mess with ssh
[15:06] <millopo> ciao
[15:06] <millopo> !list
[15:09] <foo357_> jin_: thanks for the link,
[15:10] <RickWeaver> hi guys
[15:11] <RickWeaver> i have installed the Lubuntu yesterday and I have a question: some application does not have any window border, there is no icon to minimize or close the window
[15:11] <RickWeaver> i know lubuntu has it's own channel but i did not get answer yet
[15:12] <auronandace> RickWeaver: are you trying to use compiz with lubuntu?
[15:12] <RickWeaver> nope
[15:12] <RickWeaver> i am running it on an old netbook, it is a fresh install, at the moment i am experiencing issue only with the skype
[15:15] <Nanor> Hi, my laptop keeps freezing whenever my screen locks. I think it's brightness related.
[15:15] <Nanor> How can I fix it?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> RickWeaver: you can make windows not have decorations if you want, OpenBox can do that
[15:15] <RickWeaver> how? Afaik i did not change any settings
[15:16] <RickWeaver> and only the skype and it's windows what does not have any border
[15:16] <RickWeaver> anything else works like a charm
[15:17] <avx> RickWeaver:are there in system settings any advanced settings like gnome to change desktop management...
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> RickWeaver: press ALT+F2 and run:   openbox --replace
[15:19] <RickWeaver> ActionParsnip: it looks like it has resetted the default settings or what but the skype is still the same.. should I try to reinstall skype?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> RickWeaver: what will that do?
[15:19] <RickWeaver> idk... it looks it is the only app which has this issue
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> RickWeaver: http://urukrama.wordpress.com/openbox-guide/   you may need to configure Skype to have a window decorator manually
[15:21] <RickWeaver> ok, i will have  a look on it
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> RickWeaver: if you maximize the window, does it get a decoration?
[15:21] <RickWeaver> yes it does
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> RickWeaver: then restore it, is it ok?
[15:22] <RickWeaver> negative
[15:22] <RickWeaver> it will be the same
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> RickWeaver: well, at least we can get some decoration on iy
[15:23] <Nanor> Hi, my laptop keeps freezing whenever my screen locks. I think it's brightness related. How can I fix it?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> RickWeaver: try ALT+SHIFT+D with the window active
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> RickWeaver: http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Actions#ToggleDecorations
[15:25] <RickWeaver> ActionParsnip,: nothing happens
[15:25] <RickWeaver> it's strange
[15:27] <iptable> Nanor: when it's locked, have you tried ctrl+alt+f2 ? Does that work? If so, it's not frozen per-se. Try going back to the GUI (ctrl+alt+f8) and typing in the password anyways followed by enter and see if that works.
[15:27] <RickWeaver> ActionParsnip: i am just checking those links I will get back to you when I find out something
[15:27] <Nanor> iptable, I'm going to try that now. BRB!
[15:28] <zykotick9> iptable: fyi, while in a console F1-F6 you don't need CTRL to switch just ALT+FX
[15:28] <iptable> zykotick9: good point. just got used to ctrl+alt now.
[15:29] <iptable> Nanor: also try setting up a lock screen without turning on the screen off option in power settings. See if that helps. I'm assuming it only happens when screen goes off after period of inactivity.
[15:30] <Nanor> iptable, it's a complete freeze. It occurs whenever I try to open the Brightness and Lock setting in systems settings
[15:30] <Nanor> Requires a hard restart
[15:33] <iptable> Nanor: try xset -dpms
[15:33] <iptable> see if it freezes after that. It will rule out monitor off/on option
[15:34] <iptable> oh and do: xset s off
[15:34] <Nanor> iptable, Both did nothing
[15:34] <impradeepy> whats the prb??
[15:35] <iptable> They turn off screenszver and energystar power saving. That way , once you lock, these won't enable. Does it freeze now?
[15:35] <iptable> impradeepy: laptop freezes on lock screen
[15:35] <iptable> i.e. totally
[15:35] <Nanor> it also freezes when I try to access the Brightness and Lock settings
[15:36] <impradeepy> 13.04??
[15:36] <Nanor> 13.10
[15:36] <impradeepy> ok, are you using compiz?
[15:37] <Nanor> impradeepy, I believe so, how can I make sure
[15:38] <impradeepy> go to dash type compiz and tell me if installed it or not
[15:38] <Nanor> impradeepy, it's installed, yep
[15:38] <zykotick9> Nanor: fyi, if you are using Unity - then you are using compiz
[15:38] <Nanor> then yup :)
[15:39] <Layke> ANyone use supervisord? Do you install it through apt-get ?
[15:39] <impradeepy> /etc/init.d/gdm restart try this
[15:40] <Nanor> /etc/init.d/gdm: No such file or directory
[15:41] <zykotick9> Nanor: gdm isn't used anymore... it's lightdm these days - so "sudo service lightdm restart" should restart xorg
[15:41] <impradeepy> i am using 10.04 so
[15:42] <impradeepy> give root privelgde
[15:42] <impradeepy> priviledge
[15:43] <zykotick9> impradeepy: you are aware that 10.04 is EOL right?  you should update so something "supported"
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> impradeepy: 10.04 desktop?
[15:43] <impradeepy> i think after 12.04 gdm got replaced by lightgdm
[15:43] <impradeepy> yes i will upgrade it to 13.04
[15:43] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: if impradeepy is using gdm... it's EOL ;)
[15:45] <Shiver5639> hello
[15:45] <Shiver5639> looking for some help
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> RickWeaver: I just added the 3 lines for toggle decoration from http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Actions#ToggleDecorations to ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml and logged off and on, works a treat
[15:46] <Nanor> zykotick9, OK, I ran that and it gave me a black screen with some writing. It didn't seem to be doing anything so I went into TTY1 and did a sudo reboot
[15:46] <Shiver5639> ive installed "Windows WiFi Driver" ... should be a GUI to easily install Wifi drivers... cant find it now. Ubuntu 13.10
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> Shiver5639: is there no native driver?
[15:47] <RickWeaver> ActionParsnip: ok i will try
[15:47] <zykotick9> Nanor: sorry i wasn't following your issue, just correcting the bad info you where getting...  i have no idea about your freezing.  what graphics card and/or driver are you using?
[15:48] <Shiver5639> Action: Not that i know of. Im kinda new to Ubuntu... I used Backtrack for a bit.  I installed the WIndows driver... once and it showed up but after reinstall its now not showing
[15:48] <Nanor> zykotick9, Oh! I'm using an AMD Radeon 7730 HD with the fglrx-updates drivers.. I think. This only started occuring today for some reason
[15:49] <Nanor> Though I have done a system update...
[15:49] <zykotick9> Nanor: sorry i won't help with that.  best of luck (don't include my nickname further)
[15:49] <allstarsnorks2> Hi guys. I need help installing Ubuntu GNOME 13.10
[15:49] <Shiver5639> Action: this is a USB Wifi doggel btw
[15:49] <Shiver5639> Cisco AE2500
[15:49] <RickWeaver> ActionParsnip: does it matter where i insert that 3 lines?
[15:49] <Nanor> zykotick9, Ok, thanks anyway
[15:50] <sam113101> allstarsnorks2: did you know it has its own channel?
[15:50] <allstarsnorks2> Ubuntu 12.04.3 as well
[15:51] <Shiver5639> when i search ndiswrapper in the ubuntu software store is how i found this GUI for installing the windows drivers
[15:51] <Shiver5639> its installed but the GUI is nowhere to be found
[15:52] <impradeepy> am back
[15:52] <Nanor> Hi
[15:52] <impradeepy> nanor: solved or not?
[15:52] <allstarsnorks2> Tried installing Ubuntu 12.04 and Ubuntu GNOME 13.10. It doesn't have the option to be installed alongside Windows 8.
[15:53] <Nanor> impradeepy, I don't think so.
[15:53] <impradeepy> why?
[15:53] <impradeepy> whats the error?
[15:53] <impradeepy> try to reset your unity
[15:53] <Shiver5639> there is a great YouTube on installing Ubuntu 13.10 along side windows 8 . you should check it out
[15:53] <Nanor> impradeepy, I ran a command earlier and restarted. I'm just sending an email before I try it again
[15:54] <impradeepy> sure
[15:54] <Nanor> impradeepy, Would unity not restart when I reboot anyway?
[15:54] <impradeepy> i am telling you to reset it
[15:54] <Nanor> impradeepy, Apologies. How do I do that?
[15:55] <Shiver5639> allstar: also you will have to disable fastboot and or secureboot when installing Windows 8 along side Linux
[15:55] <allstarsnorks2> I have fastboot disabled
[15:55] <impradeepy> go to terminal
[15:55] <impradeepy> dconf reset -f /org/compiz/
[15:55] <Shiver5639> allstar: search youtube for Ubuntu and Windows 8
[15:56] <impradeepy> then setsid unity
[15:56] <Nanor> impradeepy, do I need to be root?
[15:56] <impradeepy> yes
[15:56] <impradeepy> its obvious
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> Shiver5639: don't send people away when thay ask for help
[15:56] <Shiver5639> action: any ideas on the ndiswrapper issue?
[15:56] <Nanor> impradeepy, What's obvious?
[15:56] <Shiver5639> Monkey: sorry... just a resourse
[15:57] <impradeepy> to provide root priviledge
[15:57] <Nanor> It might be obvious to you. I'm new to this.
[15:57] <impradeepy> its ok take your time cheers:)
[15:57] <Shiver5639> allstar: first you need to repartition your HD in windows 8 to allow room for the install
[15:58] <Nanor> impradeepy, I've ran those commands. Should I see if it crashes?
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> RickWeaver: find the other keybndings and add it in there
[15:58] <impradeepy> just logout
[15:58] <impradeepy> or better reboot it
[15:58] <pency> yo, sorry for off topic can i adjust the light of my laptop to be as bright as when i charge it????
[15:58] <Nanor> Cool, thanks. Be right back!
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> pency: yes, set 100% brightness
[15:59] <Shiver5639> allstar: once you have installed, you may still have issues with boot loader so do your research
[15:59] <RickWeaver> ActionParsnip: ok, and do i need to restart the openbox?
[15:59] <impradeepy> use init 6 to reboot or simply reboot or shutdown -r now
[15:59] <pency> its sett but when i start to charge it becoms brighter
[15:59] <impradeepy> all are same
[16:00] <Shiver5639> now... does anyone know how to install Cisco AE2500 windows drivers in Ubuntu 13.10?? I need my wifi :) this is killing my Mobile phone data plan
[16:00] <impradeepy> allstar: whats your prob?
[16:00] <impradeepy> whats your wifi card name?@ shiver
[16:01] <Shiver5639> Cisco AE2500
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> RickWeaver: i just logged off and on again
[16:01] <Shiver5639> is USB
[16:01] <WeThePeople> hi
[16:02] <Shiver5639> I installed "WIndows WiFi Driver" from ubuntu store and its supposed to have GUI but i cant seem to find it. I have the drivers downloaded now just need my GUI
[16:03] <Shiver5639> *Windows Wireless Drivers* in the "more info" it shows the GUI but F if i can find it
[16:03] <impradeepy> check whether your cisco chips  support it or not
[16:04] <RickWeaver> ActionParsnip: it works. thank you very much
[16:04] <Layke> If I wanted to create a run script that just runs /home/layke/something/here.sh and add it to my unity docker, how would I do that?
[16:04] <xangua> Shiver5639: you want to launch ndis-gtk , a graphical interface for ndiswrapper
[16:04] <Shiver5639> im not sure what you mean... I have to use the windows drivers in linux via my research into it
[16:04] <neyder> hi
[16:05] <neyder> I don't want to dnsmaq to change my resolv.conf file
[16:05] <Shiver5639> xangua: how do i launch it? Terminal?
[16:05] <neyder> every time i start dnsmasq, resolvconf set resolv.conf to 127.0.0.1 as primary nameserver
[16:06] <bretzel|mac> Hi, my ethernet card stopped working ( RT8111/8168(b?) ) -- no carrier since 2-3 months ago... very strange - Can't even use any linux distributions because of eth0 not working
[16:06] <Shiver5639> ~$ sudo ndis-gtk ..... command not found
[16:06] <xangua> http://askubuntu.com/questions/217312/will-my-linksys-ae2500-run-on-ubuntu-12 it says it will only work with 32bit OS Shiver5639
[16:06] <bretzel|mac> * RTL8111...
[16:06] <neyder> I don't want to dnsmaq to change my resolv.conf file, every time i start dnsmasq, resolvconf set revery time i start dnsmasq, resolvconf set resolv.conf to 127.0.0.1 as primary nameserver. I just wanna have opendns as direct dns resolver without cacheesolv.conf to 127.0.0.1 as primary nameserver
[16:07] <impradeepy> shiver : you do not need to install anything by default ubuntu takes wireless drivers automatically
[16:07] <xangua> Shiver5639: why sudo¿ is ndisgtk ; you can use tab in the terminal to autocomplete commands
[16:07]  * neyder sorry
[16:07] <impradeepy> unless and untill you did not updated your kernel image
[16:07] <Shiver5639> impradeepy: Its a fresh install. would it not be up to date?
[16:08] <neyder> I don't want to dnsmaq to change my resolv.conf file, every time i start dnsmasq, resolvconf set resolv.conf to 127.0.0.1 as primary nameserver. I just wanna have opendns as direct dns resolver without cache
[16:08] <OerHeks> impradeepy, ubuntu does NOT always takes wireless drivers automatically
[16:08] <impradeepy> after fresh install you are not able to see wireless card?
[16:08] <Shiver5639> hot dam xangua! thanks! lol
[16:08] <Shiver5639> nope
[16:08] <Shiver5639> but now that i have to GUI up let me try
[16:09] <Shiver5639> To Be Continued ...
[16:09] <impradeepy> oerheks : its depend on the manufacture of wireless chipset
[16:09] <sda> i'm trying to install ubuntu minimal, the installation get stocked when it try to load the wifi firmware. I wait 2hours but nothing happens, can I tell him to jump it? or can i load the firmware?
[16:10] <zykotick9> sda: do you need wireless during the install?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> impradeepy: what wifi chip do you have?
[16:10] <sda> zykotick9, no at all! I have my network cable
[16:10] <impradeepy> bcm4313
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom
[16:10] <Shiver5639> sudo ndisgtk
[16:10] <Shiver5639> module configuration information is stored in /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper.conf
[16:10] <Shiver5639> FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Shiver5639: gksudo
[16:10] <hualet_deepin> hi, anybody here programmers qml?
[16:11] <zykotick9> sda: i'd suggest skipping that during install then...
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Shiver5639: is the system a laptop?
[16:11] <Shiver5639> yes
[16:11] <impradeepy> if the manufacture company releases its drivers for new ubuntu release then we do not need to install it manually
[16:11] <sda> zykotick9, I cannot! it doesn't ask me to do it, it does and it block while trying
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Shiver5639: used a wired connection to get fully updated?
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> impradeepy: assuming they have been rolled up into the default install, yes
[16:12] <zykotick9> sda: interesting... i got nothin' then.  best of luck.
[16:12] <sda> thanks
[16:12] <impradeepy> if i am wrong please correct me @actionparnsip
[16:12] <Shiver5639> no tethered with Mobile device
[16:12] <impradeepy> but i think i am right
[16:13] <varunendra> Shiver5639, is it you having the problem with wireless card? BCM4313?
[16:13] <Shiver5639> ok i install gksudo... now what?
[16:13] <Shiver5639> no its a Cisco AE2500
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> Shiver5639: what chip does:   sudo lshw -C network   say it is?
[16:15] <Shiver5639> BCM43236 when i lsusb
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | Shiver5639
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Shiver5639: you don't need ndiswrapper for that
[16:16] <impradeepy> lol
[16:16] <impradeepy> see
[16:16] <impradeepy> what i said
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Shiver5639: always always check for native driver instead of immediately reaching for ndiswrapper
[16:17] <impradeepy> uninstall ndiswrapper
[16:18] <theadmin> ndiswrapper is absolutely useless in most situations, I never got it to work
[16:18] <Shiver5639> .... beating head on desk... when i hear "Native" i start looking for indians.... Its been a long time from linux
[16:18] <Shiver5639> ok.. let me try this link and ill get back to ya... thank you all for the help... this think has been driving me bat shit crazy for days
[16:18] <theadmin> Shiver5639: It might be written by indians.
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> apache or so
[16:19] <jmgk> impradeepy:
[16:20] <neyder> some help with resolvconf dnsmasq ?
[16:20] <impradeepy> yes mate oops i am sorry i just read it
[16:20] <jmgk> ok
[16:22] <ekristen> what is the proper term for the application hotbar/sidebar in 12.04?
[16:22] <theadmin> ekristen: Launcher.
[16:22] <aguitel> epson multifunction cx5600 ,scanner only work in old ubuntu version (like 10.04) ,any clues ?
[16:22] <OerHeks> ekristen, unity
[16:23] <ekristen> trying to figure out how to add stuff to it via a shell script
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> aguitel: have you tried simplescan and xsane?
[16:23] <aguitel> ActionParsnip,  yes
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> aguitel: also, run both with gksudo, make sure it's not a permissions thing
[16:24] <aguitel> ActionParsnip,  i make it
[16:24] <Pici> neyder: Can you not add your dns to /etc/network/interfaces ?
[16:24] <theadmin> ekristen: The /desktop/unity/launcher/favorites dconf key defines the pinned apps on the launcher.
[16:24] <aguitel> ActionParsnip,  maybe kernel issue ?
[16:25] <OerHeks> ekristen, maybe this page is any help > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles#Adding_a_.desktop_file_to_the_Unity_Launcher
[16:25] <ekristen> theadmin: thanks
[16:25] <ekristen> OerHeks: thanks
[16:25] <ekristen> exactly was I was looking for
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> aguitel: sounds like missing drivers, have you tried looking online? are there any bugs reported?
[16:26] <theadmin> ekristen: Also these people have spelling problems, yes, "favorites", without the "u".
[16:26] <neyder> Pici, it's almost added: dns-nameservers	208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220
[16:26] <aguitel> ActionParsnip,  no bugs reported
[16:26] <Shiver5639> ok.. how do i install rndis_wlan?
[16:27] <impradeepy> shiver:still nowifi??
[16:27] <Shiver5639> it gives me list of the natives but no instructions
[16:27] <Shiver5639> lol
[16:27] <Shiver5639> no
[16:27] <Shiver5639> rndis_wlan ....
[16:27] <aguitel> ActionParsnip, this issue happend in debian wheezy and in archlinux
[16:28] <Shiver5639> should i do a sudo update?
[16:28] <impradeepy> yet not
[16:28] <impradeepy> have you uninstalled ndis??
[16:29] <Shiver5639> how do i do that?
[16:29] <Shiver5639> just remove from store?
[16:29] <impradeepy> yes
[16:29] <jmgk> :P
[16:29] <jmgk> impradeepy:
[16:30] <Shiver5639> gone
[16:30] <jmgk> hm
[16:30] <impradeepy> install additional driversfrom store
[16:30] <Shiver5639> rndis_wlan is not in the store
[16:31] <impradeepy> addtional drivers
[16:31] <Shiver5639> ... i miss synaptic
[16:31] <Shiver5639> ohhh
[16:31] <Shiver5639> already got it
[16:31] <Shiver5639> all it finds is my nvidia
[16:31] <impradeepy> send me snapshot of addtional drivers
[16:31] <hydra7> i can't update flash player in ubuntu
[16:32] <impradeepy> hydra7:use chrome webbrowser
[16:32] <dansmithbtc2> ss
[16:32] <moparisthebest> update-grub isn't making any changes to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:32] <moparisthebest> even though I have entirely different kernels installed now
[16:33] <moparisthebest> I feel like I remember this happening really far in the past but I don't remember how I fixed it, any ideas?
[16:33] <hydra7> impradeepy: for firefox what todo?
[16:33] <zykotick9> moparisthebest: do you have more then one gnu/linux installed on that box?
[16:33] <moparisthebest> zykotick9: nope just one, and it's the only OS
[16:33] <impradeepy> install it manually form adobe
[16:34] <zykotick9> moparisthebest: ok, just checkin'.  good luck.
[16:34] <theadmin> moparisthebest: "menu.lst" isn't used since Ubuntu 9.10
[16:34] <moparisthebest> I still have the original grub, it's running 12.04
[16:34] <Shiver5639> impradeepy: after i let it install my invida should it locate wifi?
[16:34] <hydra7> downloaded it but "command line" don't know where the plugin for firefox resides
[16:34] <moparisthebest> but the original install was 8.04 I think
[16:34] <impradeepy> nvidia is ur graphic card
[16:34] <moparisthebest> upgraded from LTS to LTS over the years
[16:34] <theadmin> hydra7: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[16:34] <zykotick9> moparisthebest: are you using grub2 or grub-legacy?
[16:34] <theadmin> hydra7: That will give you the latest flash from Adobe.
[16:34] <moparisthebest> it shows it finds the kernels and says 'updating menu.lst'
[16:35] <impradeepy> hydra7:extract and run it
[16:35] <Shiver5639> i know.... its not finding USB wifi
[16:35] <moparisthebest> but it doesn't change, it'd be grub-legacy
[16:35] <Shiver5639> when i do LSUSB its there
[16:35] <moparisthebest> grub 0.97-29ubuntu66
[16:35] <impradeepy> nice one theadmin
[16:36] <zykotick9> moparisthebest: does update-grub even work for grub-legacy?
[16:36] <impradeepy> or simply install adobe flash plugin from software centres
[16:36] <theadmin> zykotick9: Yes, it used to be an Ubuntu-specific script, in GRUB2 it calls grub-mkconfig appropriately
[16:37] <hydra7> theadmin: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6515325/
[16:37] <moparisthebest> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6515329/
[16:37] <moparisthebest> that's the output ^
[16:37] <zykotick9> theadmin: it's been SO long since i used grub1 - but i only remember manually updating.  it wasn't until grub2 that i started the whole update-grub myself...
[16:37] <impradeepy> shiver:go to synaptic
[16:37] <xangua> hydra7: you already have flash plugin installed, yes
[16:38] <jmgk> impradeepy:
[16:38] <impradeepy> its by default do not why he is asking to install it manually2flash plugins
[16:39] <Shiver5639> ubuntu 13.10 will not let me install synaptic
[16:39] <impradeepy> why??
[16:39] <moparisthebest> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/202009
[16:39] <theadmin> hydra7: Then you already have Flash installed, I suppose, but maybe the installer failed, try to reinstall that package (sudo apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-installer)
[16:39] <Shiver5639> no idea.. i do sudo apt-get install synaptic and it said its replaced by the store crap
[16:39] <hydra7> wait
[16:39] <Shiver5639> let me try again
[16:39] <impradeepy> ok
[16:41] <impradeepy> shiver:why you guys make it difficult by going into terminal without proper commands and package name?
[16:41] <impradeepy> always first search package name in the repository
[16:41] <impradeepy> best to search it in software or synaptic
[16:42] <theadmin> impradeepy: apt-cache search blah blah # <-- works too
[16:42] <hydra7> xangua here http://imgur.com/ZNgYFg0
[16:42] <Shiver5639> im confused...  not hard to do btw
[16:42] <impradeepy> for starters what would you suggest mate?
[16:42] <impradeepy> they switched from windows new gui new everything
[16:43] <impradeepy> so suggest them to use simple path
[16:43] <Pici> impradeepy: Are you talking to anyone in particular? Or are you just ranting?
[16:43] <eminor> uname /a
[16:43] <impradeepy> theadmin
[16:43] <Shiver5639> ive searched for rndis_wlan ....  nothing except on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[16:44] <impradeepy> shiver: you did not install synaptic??
[16:44] <Shiver5639> it tells me WHAT i need but not WHERE to get it
[16:44] <Shiver5639> it wont let me install synaptic
[16:44] <eminor> oops, wrong keyboard
[16:44] <theadmin> impradeepy: Then use Software Center, it's much simpler than Synaptic
[16:44] <xangua> impradeepy: why are you so obsessed about synaptic¿
[16:45] <Pici> Shiver5639: Sure it does.  Scroll down and it provides instructions of what exactly you need to type.
[16:45] <impradeepy> right @ theadmin
[16:46] <moparisthebest> alright, so the 'fix' is to move menu.lst someplace else (so it looks deleted), update-grub creates a new one, move original menu.lst back, update-grub asks you if you want to keep your own changes or install package maintainers version, choose install package maintainers version (even though you DON'T want your changes overwritten), and then it'll work from now on
[16:46] <moparisthebest> so that's fun
[16:46] <moparisthebest> and entirely non-intuitive
[16:46] <theadmin> moparisthebest: Bugs are bugs
[16:47] <impradeepy> xangua: software centre is simple but what i wanna tell him to learn and know more about package
[16:47] <impradeepy> synaptics provides more options tha software centre
[16:48] <rypervenche> impradeepy: The command line would probably be better for that.
[16:48] <sp0t> if you start writing $HOME/ in the terminal, why does it not have autocomplete when you press tab?
[16:48] <moparisthebest> unsolved bugs from 2008 are fun! (seriously, just print a message saying you aren't doing anything at the minimum...)
[16:48] <Shiver5639> ok, synaptic will NOT install while Additional Drivers is running
[16:48] <impradeepy> command line is better for those who actually knew the required package
[16:48] <Shiver5639> .... its installed...
[16:48] <Shiver5639> impradeepy: what do u want me to do now?
[16:49] <theadmin> sp0t: It's a variable, is not affected by autocomplete. Use ~ in place of $HOME.
[16:49] <impradeepy> search bcm
[16:49] <grache28> to make a script start on bootup, do I just place it in /etc/init/ ?
[16:49] <theadmin> grache28: Woah, no.
[16:50] <theadmin> grache28: Put a line to run it in /etc/rc.local, that's by far the simpliest way. Messing with init just to run a script is a waste of time.
[16:50] <sp0t> theadmin: Thanks!
[16:50] <theadmin> sp0t: (also, ~ will work in every app, including GUI ones, $HOME will only work in the terminal)
[16:50] <Shiver5639> bcmwl-kernel-source is installed
[16:50] <impradeepy> shiver: bcmwl-kernel-source is installed??
[16:50] <impradeepy> uninstall it
[16:51] <zykotick9> moparisthebest: don't expect issues in grub1 to be resolved... ever ;)
[16:51] <varunendra> Shiver5639, sorry I got disconnected earlier. Can you show us the output of "lsusb" while the wifi adapter is plugged in?
[16:51] <Shiver5639> ohh sorry. It has the lil ubuntu symbol beside it but not installed
[16:52] <impradeepy> sudo apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source
[16:52] <Shiver5639> its not installed
[16:52] <Shiver5639> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 13b1:003a Linksys AE2500 802.11abgn Wireless Adapter [Broadcom BCM43236]
[16:53] <impradeepy> search b43
[16:53] <Shiver5639> ok
[16:53] <Shiver5639> nothing installed
[16:53] <impradeepy> ok
[16:54] <grache28> to make a script start on bootup, do I just place it in /etc/init/ ?
[16:55] <impradeepy> shiver:download the xp version of ae2500 win drivers
[16:55] <Shiver5639> got it
[16:55] <Rory> !info zabbix-server-mysql precise
[16:55] <Shiver5639> on desktop
[16:55] <impradeepy> install it
[16:55] <RafaelJoseY> alguien que hable español?
[16:55] <Shiver5639> ?
[16:56] <Shiver5639> thats what ive been trying to do! lol
[16:56] <grache28> RafaelJoseY: que quieres?
[16:56] <dtcrshr> !ubuntu-es
[16:56] <Rory> !es | RafaelJoseY
[16:56] <grache28> eso^^
[16:56] <Shiver5639> how do i "install it"
[16:57] <impradeepy> problem is your are using dual boot
[16:57] <impradeepy> and your chipset did not release update to its drivers
[16:58] <impradeepy> so you are not able to see your wireless card
[16:58] <Shiver5639> i can see it when i lsusb
[16:58] <Shiver5639> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 13b1:003a Linksys AE2500 802.11abgn Wireless Adapter [Broadcom BCM43236]
[16:58] <RafaelJoseY> thanks, i go t spanish chanel :)
[16:59] <Shiver5639> what do i do with the XP drivers ive downloaded?
[16:59] <impradeepy> install it
[16:59] <Shiver5639> HOW
[16:59] <Shiver5639> lol
[16:59] <impradeepy> on your windows
[16:59] <Shiver5639> im not using windows
[16:59] <impradeepy> no dual boot??
[17:00] <RafaelJoseY> why i can see the files from my pc with windows, but I can't paste the files here?
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> Shiver5639: xp drivers are useless in ubuntu
[17:00] <Shiver5639> .... no... im trying to get away from winblows
[17:00] <Rory> impradeepy: If you're going to help, be helpful. Shiver5639 you can get your adaptor working but it's a little complicated, and you need to be using a 32-bit version of ubuntu
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> Shiver5639: i guess you mean windows
[17:01] <jhutchins> RafaelJoseY: What files?
[17:01] <impradeepy> i am trying
[17:01] <Albania> impradeepy ca ke re ()ropsh
[17:01] <Shiver5639> so the 64bit is useless?
[17:01] <Albania> qe shkrun
[17:01] <Albania> apo tqi rracen
[17:01] <Albania> :P
[17:01] <FloodBot1> Albania: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:01] <theadmin> Albania: ...Chtulhu fhtagn?
[17:01] <Albania> FloodBot1 mha bolen
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> call of cthulhu?
[17:01] <varunendra> Shiver5639, have you installed ndiswrapper? That may be the only hope with this card. See this thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1805830
[17:01] <Rory> Shiver5639: You can use a program called ndiswrapper to "install" those Windows xp drivers http://askubuntu.com/questions/217312/will-my-linksys-ae2500-run-on-ubuntu-12
[17:01] <theadmin> Albania: Please speak English
[17:01] <Shqiperia> FloodBot1 Me Rru Lesht
[17:02] <Albania> theadmin ok
[17:02] <Shqiperia> FloodBot1 Ta Fus 1 Cik Ngoj
[17:02] <Shqiperia> Aladilas__
[17:02] <Shqiperia> Fak Ju Madher Faker
[17:02]  * Shqiperia  :P
[17:02] <FloodBot1> Shqiperia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:02] <Rory> Shqiperia: This is the Ubuntu support channel
[17:02] <Albania> hahahahahahhaa
[17:02] <Shqiperia> Albania Hahaha
[17:02] <Albania> ca Gallate
[17:02] <Shqiperia> Qa Thon Mer
[17:02] <Shiver5639> ok... let me REINSTALL ndiswrapper and the GUI and ill tell you what it said....
[17:02] <Rory> Shqiperia: Take it somewhere else
[17:02] <MonkeyDust> Rory: ignore it, the channel is under attack
[17:02] <Albania> Shiver5639 boll mer ropqim
[17:02] <impradeepy> i did not use bad words to anyone
[17:02] <Albania> u bone ti
[17:03] <impradeepy> all i wanna is to give my level best
[17:03] <RafaelJoseY> jhutchins pdf, doc, video, mp3, etc, it's files educative for kids, I try open a root naitilus, but don't work
[17:03] <Shqiperia> Rory Te Qiva Robt Po Mos Fol Mo
[17:03] <Albania> hahahahhahahaha
[17:03] <theadmin> !ops | Shqiperia, Albania
[17:03] <Albania> ca na boni ky ne mer
[17:03] <Shqiperia> Albania
[17:03] <Shqiperia> Ca Bom Ne Mer
[17:03] <Shiver5639> wtf
[17:04] <Shiver5639> someone ddos that prick
[17:04] <Rory> Shiver5639: save it
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> Shiver5639: don't give attention to them kids
[17:04] <Myrtti> Shiver5639: not helpful
[17:05] <Shiver5639> wow...
[17:05] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone, I have two NIC , with which I can have two ppp connections.Is it possible to use both the connections together?
[17:05] <theadmin> Shiver5639: No need to worry, they were removed from the channel by the administration, it would seem
[17:06] <theadmin> Shiver5639: In general, however, please refrain from bad language even in situations like these, and instead, call the adminstration for help.
[17:06] <Shiver5639> bad language?  "ddos" or "prick" ??
[17:09] <Shiver5639> nvm... not important... ae2500  <-- important
[17:10] <Nanor> Where can I see the logs of a system crash? My system hard locked at 17:03
[17:11] <usr13> Nanor: /var/log/syslog*
[17:12] <usr13> Nanor: But most hard locks are due to defective RAM
[17:14] <Nanor> usr13, It's a hard lock I can trigger due to brightness issues
[17:14] <usr13> Nanor: Is it a laptop?
[17:15] <Nanor> usr13, yes
[17:15] <Nanor> usr13, Whenever I try to open Brightness & Lock in system settings it completely locks
[17:15] <usr13> Nanor: No response from mouse or keyboard?
[17:16] <Nanor> usr13, Nothing. I can't ctrl + alt + f into another TTY either
[17:16] <usr13> Nanor: Have you tried to login from another PC on your LAN?
[17:16] <Nanor> usr13, I don't have access to another computer
[17:17] <gh0st> so i'm trying to make an ad-hoc wifi ap with my laptop, but when i try to set the key, it's okay.  But then when i try to log into it with my other ubuntu laptop, it greys out the connect button unless it's a certain length
[17:17] <gh0st> seems to be 5, 10, 13, and 26
[17:17] <gh0st> also, when i made the key up to 10 chars long it still greyed out the connect utton
[17:17] <gh0st> * button
[17:17] <usr13> Nanor: What exactly triggers the lock?
[17:17] <gh0st> can anyone tell me why?
[17:18] <Rory> gh0st: If it's a WEP key, they need to be one of those lengths
[17:18] <Nanor> usr13, turning the brightness up or down, when the computer locks after inactivity, or whenever I try and open the Brightness & Lock settings in system settings
[17:18] <gh0st> but i made the key length 10, and it still greyed it out
[17:19] <gh0st> is there a limit to the charset too?
[17:19] <ObrienDave> 26 max
[17:19] <Rory> gh0st: Are you using WEP or WPA?
[17:19] <gh0st> wep 128 bit passphrase
[17:20] <usr13> Nanor: One thing you might try is open a terminal window and run tail -f /var/log/syslog  and try to re-create the issue while keeping the terminal window visible.  (Maybe you'll see a clue).
[17:20] <gh0st> can i not use numbers or uppercase&lowercase?
[17:20] <usr13> Nanor: But the best is to login from another PC on your LAN.
[17:21] <Nanor> usr13, I've checked the system log and I know the EXACT time I made the crash occur; 1703. There's nothing in the syslog
[17:21] <Rory> gh0st: You can use anything in US-ASCII
[17:21] <usr13> gh0st: Just do away with the encryption.
[17:21] <gh0st> but then my network would be insecure
[17:21] <Rory> gh0st: If WPA2 is an option though, you should use that rather than WEP.
[17:22] <Rory> gh0st: Your network is insecure with WEP, it's completely deprecated
[17:22] <Rory> gh0st: has been for years
[17:22] <usr13> Nanor: I suppose it could be defective RAM.
[17:22] <usr13> Nanor: When did it start to happen?
[17:22] <bjrohan> Hey everyone. I have a netgear router that allows one to plug in and access a USB drive, they call it Ready Share.  I have installed the USB drive and added the line "//192.168.1.1/USB_Storage /media/ReadyShare cifs guest 0 0" to my fstab. The drive appears in my list of place in Nautilus, however when I try to acces it I get the error " mount error(5): Input/output error Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs) "
[17:22] <usr13> Rory: Not completely.
[17:22] <gh0st> all i've got is wep 128 bit passphrase, and wep 40/128 bit key (hex or ascii)
[17:23] <usr13> Rory: That's a bit of an overstatement.
[17:23] <Nanor> usr13, Just today. The laptop is relatively new.
[17:23] <Nanor> usr13, I've been using it for weeks prior
[17:23] <Rory> usr13: Tell that to my neighbours when I moved into this apartment
[17:23] <gh0st> also can someone tell me how to use iwpriv?  When i try to use it, it says no private ioctls
[17:24] <usr13> Rory: You tell them :)
[17:24] <ObrienDave> gh0st, the passphrase is the unencrypted equivalent of the key
[17:24] <Rory> gh0st: It will show all the ioctls that your card provides. Not all cards provide any. What are you expecting to see?
[17:24] <seanz> Has anyone here used the debarchiver tool?
[17:24] <gh0st> i'm trying to setup wifi encryption from console on connecting computer
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> gh0st: you can use wicd-curses in cli and setup a connection to a router etc easily
[17:26] <gh0st> this site said i could go like iwpriv set EncryptionType=WEP; iwpriv set Key1=deadbeef; iwpriv set DefaultKeyID=1; iwpriv set SSID=____
[17:26] <usr13> Nanor: I really do not think it is a software issue, (pretty sure it is hardware issue), BUT, you might look at prior package update or install, (prior to the start of lockups).  (ls -ltr /var/lib/dpkg/info*.list)
[17:27] <usr13> .. and scroll up from there.
[17:27] <gh0st> don't have it (And this is actually a slackware i'm talking about now, can't get packages from the internet cause it cant connect)
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> gh0st: slackware support is separate from Ubuntu's
[17:28] <usr13> gh0st: What exactly are you trying to do?  Share an internet connection via adhoc ?
[17:28] <gh0st> yep
[17:28] <usr13> gh0st: What exactly is not working about it?
[17:29] <gh0st> i'm trying to encrypt the wifi, but slackware has limited tools to deal with that.  I was supposed to have nm-applet, but somehow it failed to install, so now all i got to work with is iwpriv
[17:29] <esde> I'm connected to an ssh session with tunneling using this guide https://howto.ccs.neu.edu/howto/windows/ssh-port-tunneling-with-putty/ except I left Hostname blank under SSH > Tunnels > Destination. Then configured firefox to use the SSH tunnel by setting proxy to SOCKS5 at localhost on port 8080. IPMonkey, Whatismyip, etc, all show the correct ip. But when I visit a website with an IRC client embedded in the site, the server console window shows im connect
[17:29] <esde> ing as my "actual" ip, instead of the remote machines ip. Is this normal?
[17:29] <gh0st> which does not seem to work
[17:30] <gh0st> no private ioctls
[17:30] <usr13> gh0st: What about wicd?
[17:30] <gh0st> does not seem to be installed
[17:30] <usr13> gh0st: Are you sure it failed to install?
[17:30] <usr13> gh0st: Or is it just not enabled?
[17:30] <gh0st> nm-applet just craps out when i try to start it
[17:31] <Nanor> usr13, Should I maybe do a memtest?
[17:31] <usr13> Nanor: Yes
[17:31] <gh0st> could not initialize nmclient /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager: the name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files
[17:32] <usr13> gh0st: It should start automatically, (if you have the executable bit set for it's startup scrupt).
[17:33] <gh0st> also gconf error: configuration couldn't be contacted: d-bus error: unable to store a key '/apps/nm-applet/stamp', as the configuration server has no writable databases.
[17:33] <usr13> gh0st: #chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.networkmanager  (Or what ever it's name is, maybe it is rc.nm<something-or-other>  (you just have to look and see).
[17:34] <llutz> moin
[17:34] <usr13> gh0st: See my pm
[17:45] <neyder> hi there , usb-creator-gtk dies just at the end, and USB isn't bootable
[17:46] <neyder> i'm trying to create a 12.04.3 amd64desktop on a saucy amd64 machine
[17:47] <ale1976> ciao
[17:48] <ResQue> where can i find the docs or info on the grub search --hint-efi --hint-bios --hint-baremetal commands. i looked in the grub docs under search but it doesnt say anything about these extra arguments
[17:50] <ale1976> !list
[17:51] <ubuntuf> i thought ubuntu is strong in security ?
[17:52] <ubuntuf> why am i keep getting bother my those low life script "hacker" ?
[17:53] <trijntje> neyder: you can try the program unetbootin, usb-creator is bugy
[17:53] <trijntje> *buggy
[17:53] <ubuntuf> why is everyone quiting ?
[17:54] <tking0036> can somebody help me.. I have a big html file and it's all on one line, could I use sed or awk or something to break each line after </tr>
[17:54] <neyder> thanks trijntje
[17:54] <trijntje> tking0036: you can even use gedit: ctrl + G to search and replace, and then replace </tr> by </tr>\n
[17:54] <neyder> i have a hp 450 with ubuntu, i have formated and repartitioned, but have created a backup of restore directory, how can I restore the original ubuntu?
[17:55] <tking0036> trijntje: Will that work with vim?
[17:55] <ubuntuf> any effective log system in ubuntu to log any changes to setting ?
[17:56] <trijntje> tking0036: :%s/<\/tr>/<\/tr>\n/g for vim I think
[17:57] <trijntje> if I escaped the slashes properly
[17:58] <tking0036> vim takes \n literally
[17:59] <ubuntuf> any effective log system in ubuntu to log any changes to setting ?
[18:00] <trijntje> ubuntuf: which settings?
[18:00] <trijntje> tking0036: you mean it puts in '\n' instead of newline? Try \\n
[18:00] <grache28> what's the ubuntu paste command?
[18:01] <ubuntuf> which setting all system setting
[18:01] <trijntje> im not on linux now so I cant test
[18:01] <trijntje> ubuntuf: each program has its own settings, they are not kept in one place
[18:01] <ObrienDave> grache28, ctrl-v
[18:01] <ubuntuf> ubuntu setting
[18:01] <grache28> ObrienDave: lol i mean to auto post to ubuntus pastebin
[18:02] <Guest88934> any using Epson L110 Printer?
[18:03] <ubuntuf> is ubuntu still alive ?
[18:03] <danielsp> yes
[18:03] <the_dane> I'm using it. So ... I hope so.
[18:04] <k1l_> grache28: pastebinit
[18:04] <k1l_> !pastebinit | grache28
[18:04] <ripthejacker> how do I check to see if 'bonding' module is enabled or available?
[18:04] <ubuntuf> ubuntu 10 - 11 are so polished
[18:05] <ubuntuf> 12 and above seems ameuturish
[18:05] <k1l_> ubuntuf: this channel is for technical support only. for chitchat we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:06] <ripthejacker> How do I check if a particular kernel module is available or loaded.
[18:07] <ResQue> how can i search through an info help file. i typed /stringtosearch but i cant seem to figure out how to go to the next or previous match
[18:07] <k1l_> ripthejacker: lsmod shows the loaded modules
[18:07] <ubuntuf> i'm looking for something that i can log the system setting
[18:07] <ripthejacker> k1l_: and how to check if the module is available for loading?
[18:08] <boolean> ls
[18:08] <Rick28> Hey. For testing purpoeses I'm trying to install Linux Mint (i know, i know) to an old laptop. The Mint irc chat is no help at all. My internal laptop keyboard won't work after GRUB. Do you guys know if I can do something like add a start parameter so that it's more likely that my keybord works?
[18:08] <boolean> sorry
[18:09] <ripthejacker> k1l_: I mean, I need to know, If I have to recompile the kernel, or it can be loaded on reboot.
[18:25] <jhutchins> Rick28: Install Ubuntu, and if you still have the problem come back.
[18:26] <Zoocko_HD> hallo
[18:26] <ken_> Hi.
[18:27] <jhutchins> Rick28: If you solve it in ubuntu and apply it to the Mint install, you'll be able to tell whether the solution works on Mint.
[18:28] <IamTrying> HP Elite 800 all-in-one touch screen PC, i just bought, and i cant go to BIOS, default windows 8, i want to install Linux how can i boot???
[18:29] <kaleki> IamTrying So, I'm thinking that machine has a UEFI boot
[18:30] <IamTrying> kaleki, if i press F2, Del, F1 , 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 i get HP boot screen but there is nothing i can change to boot Ubuntu for installing
[18:30] <IamTrying> kaleki, How can i install Ubuntu if i cant set BIOS the boot order
[18:30] <kaleki> IamTrying Ok, give me a second. I'm going to do some poking around and see if I can come up with something
[18:31] <IamTrying> kaleki, OK
[18:32] <kaleki> IamTrying ENVY or Elite?
[18:32] <IamTrying> kaleki, Elite
[18:33] <kaleki> IamTrying 10-4. Still looking
[18:33] <IamTrying> kaleki, You see this one: http://i.imgur.com/0brTsdr.jpg
[18:33] <IamTrying> Elite One 800
[18:34] <IamTrying> I tried to press Dell, F2, F1 till F12 getting no way to select CDrom or USB boot order. By default putting me in Windows 8 (i hate this OS), everywhere Windows default.
[18:35] <Joshuamcd22> @floodbot3
[18:35] <kaleki> IamTrying This is him: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2426448,00.asp ?
[18:35] <IamTrying> YES - exactly that one kaleki on my desk now
[18:36] <kaleki> IamTrying Ok, step one: complete. Let's see if we can find some info.
[18:36] <iptable> IamTrying: on a laptop, first shutdown, then remove battery and power source, then put them back, THEN try one of these. Typical "shutdown" on those windows 8 EFI ones usually does not give you option to go to other boot unless it's proper shutdown
[18:36] <iptable> had that with my samsung laptop...
[18:37] <kaleki> iptable IamTrying He's on an all-in-one
[18:37] <iptable> remove all power and try on first boot. if you don't find the option, remove all power and try again. had that with a PC as well, so this could be similar...
[18:37] <iptable> gotta go
[18:38] <kaleki> iptable IamTrying Thanks!
[18:38] <kevin__> I have 13.04 installed and 13.10 installed, i can see 13.10 mounted when i boot into 13.04.  Can I delete partition 13.10 and reboot back into 13.04 without GRUB crappy up on me?
[18:39] <IamTrying> OK - Thank you, luckyly its booting now to USB Stick 13.10 64-bit got Ubuntu. me smiling now kaleki iptable
[18:40] <kaleki> IamTrying AWESOME! Good luck. Hit me up with questions if you run into more trouble
[18:43] <Kenseilon> Hey guys, sorry to come hereand bothing you, but can anyone check out this problem I'm having? http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1s0dj3/fresh_install_of_12043_lts_x64_yet_not_updates/
[18:43] <Calinou> kevin__, 13.04 will be soon EOL. not a good idea
[18:44] <Kenseilon> I've never seen this particular issue before, and I've probably installed ubuntu close to 50 times
[18:44] <kevin__> EOL = End of Line?
[18:44] <Kenseilon> @Kevin: Yes
[18:44] <kevin__> ok thanks
[18:44] <Kenseilon> They have 9 months of support for all Non-LTS releases
[18:44] <k1l_> kevin__: end of life
[18:44] <Calinou> end of life
[18:45] <Kenseilon> Sounds so sad doesn't it?
[18:45] <kevin__> I am still unable to upgrade 13.04 to the current, even with the distro burned on DVD any suggestions thanks
[18:45] <xangua> Calinou: Kenseilon doesn't the 9 month cycle start with 13.10 ¿
[18:45] <k1l_> xangua: nope. with 13.04
[18:47] <Kenseilon> This just doesn't make any sense :S Why on earth can't I find any updates? Or are there issue with the repos globally?
[18:48] <jhutchins> Kenseilon: There is an option in the installer to use the most recent version of the files or essentially to do a global update after installing.  Perhaps you chose that?
[18:49] <k1l_> Kenseilon: please put into a pastebin a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get upgrade"
[18:49] <kevin__> I've been having the same problem
[18:49] <Kenseilon> @jhutchins: There was no such option. Only option was to fetch updates during the installation process
[18:49] <Kenseilon> @k1l: willco, one moment
[18:50] <k1l_> kevin__: so same advice for you. we need way more infor and errormessages to invistigate what the cause is.
[18:50] <k1l_> there is no general issue with updates known
[18:50] <yakko> hey guys, I just downloaded a legacy version of firefox to my ubuntu-server 13.10, but when I run "bash: /opt/firefox-23/firefox: No such file or directory" I get this output "bash: /opt/firefox-23/firefox: No such file or directory" the file exists though "-rwxr-xr-x 1 deployer deployer 131K Sep 11 02:08 firefox" - is there anything obvious I'm missing?
[18:50] <kevin__> Yes, thanks i'll take a look
[18:51] <yakko> when I run "/opt/firefox-23/firefox -v" ***
[18:51] <Perfect> Hi all!
[18:51] <Perfect> here my custom adwaita theme
[18:51] <Perfect> http://s910.photobucket.com/user/myth-coder/media/74e66012-ed8c-4537-b1cb-27dc479bc961_zps9ddbd23a.png.html
[18:51] <Perfect> it's cool
[18:52] <Perfect> but why gedit dark
[18:52] <Perfect> :(
[18:52] <Kenseilon> hi, here's the output http://pastebin.com/XRrQT5R7
[18:52] <Kenseilon> eh..should it say "hit"?
[18:53] <k1l_> Kenseilon: that looks like your system is uptodate.
[18:53] <ralbornoz> hi
[18:53] <yakko> Perfect: Vietnam, cool :)
[18:53] <ralbornoz> one question
[18:53] <Kenseilon> it isn't though....i've not installed any updates
[18:53] <k1l_> Kenseilon: please pastebin the file "/etc/apt/sources.list" to see if the right sources are enabled
[18:54] <Perfect> what cool? vietnamese or theme?
[18:54] <Kenseilon> ok
[18:54] <Perfect> yakko: ?
[18:54] <yakko> Perfect: vietnamese :)
[18:54] <Perfect> yakko: :(
[18:54] <Kenseilon> http://pastebin.com/YZ057tW1
[18:54] <Perfect> yakko: but bad english
[18:54] <Kenseilon> there you go
[18:54] <Perfect> sorry for it
[18:55] <ralbornoz> act apache2 2.2.20 to 2.4.6
[18:55] <yakko> Perfect: you can get the message across, that's what's important :)
[18:55] <Perfect> yakko: My adwaita theme, it dark to gedit
[18:55] <Perfect> http://s910.photobucket.com/user/myth-coder/media/74e66012-ed8c-4537-b1cb-27dc479bc961_zps9ddbd23a.png.html
[18:56] <Perfect> please tell me how to fix it?
[18:56] <yakko> Perfect: I'm sorry but I never made GUI themes in my life, so I don't know how to help
 Kenseilon: please put into a pastebin a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get upgrade"
[18:56] <Calinou> dist-upgrade, not upgraded
[18:56] <Calinou> -d
[18:57] <k1l_> Calinou: see the output he gave
[18:57] <Perfect> yakko: :(, cant any one?
[18:57] <Kenseilon> Calinou: http://pastebin.com/XRrQT5R7
[18:57] <dadlis> Hello, world!
[18:57] <yakko> Perfect: BTW check out Sublime Text, it's a famous text editor among programmres. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjDMqr8PC7c
[18:58] <k1l_> Kenseilon: that sources.list looks good. how do you think you are not uptodate?
[18:58] <Kenseilon> because i've not installed a single update :)
[18:58] <Kenseilon> and my monitor resolution is s**t because the intel drivers are not installed
[18:58] <yakko> hey guys, I just downloaded a legacy version of firefox to my ubuntu-server 13.10 64bits, but when I run "/opt/firefox-23/firefox -v" I get this output "bash: /opt/firefox-23/firefox: No such file or directory" the file exists though "-rwxr-xr-x 1 deployer deployer 131K Sep 11 02:08 firefox" - is there anything obvious I'm missing?
[18:58] <k1l_> Kenseilon: you told you did
[18:59] <Perfect> yakko: gedit í default text editor :D
[18:59] <k1l_> Kenseilon: the intel drivers are in the kernel already. no need to install drivers for intel
[18:59] <yakko> Perfect: but Sublime is the perfect text editor :D
[19:00] <Kenseilon> K1l_: oh ok.
[19:00] <Perfect> my problem is dark in gedit
[19:00] <Kenseilon> oh, I fixed the monitor issue :P forgot to change res! haha, I'm such an idiot sometimes
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> Kenseilon: you are
[19:01] <Kenseilon> Kernel Linux 3.5.0-44-generic = latest?
[19:02] <Perfect> yakko: because in here it's has same problem http://s910.photobucket.com/user/myth-coder/media/Screenshotfrom2013-12-04020103_zps9b3b7b7a.png.html
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> Kenseilon: 3.8.0-34-generic for 12.04
[19:02] <Kenseilon> so then it's not updated?
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> Kenseilon: what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[19:03] <Kenseilon> will check
[19:03] <Kenseilon> All output was "Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l"
[19:04] <k1l_> Kenseilon: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack  for kernel upgrades
[19:04] <Kenseilon> ok
[19:04] <Perfect> yakko: I want to know, how to fix it?
[19:05] <k1l_> and 3.5 is the standard kernel for 12.04.3
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> Kenseilon: ok, that's wahat I have too, but with 3.0.8-34
[19:05] <k1l_> its the 13.04 backports kernel
[19:05] <Kenseilon> ok
[19:05] <yakko> Perfect: I'm sorry but I never opened gEdit in my whole life
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> of course i mean 3.8.0
[19:05] <Kenseilon> so all updates are installed then? :) and Im good to go?
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> yakko: what's the hard part in opening gedit?
[19:06] <k1l_> oh wait. its the 3.8 kernel in 12.04.3
[19:06] <yakko> MonkeyDust: I don't know the answer to his question, and he's insisting that I help him
[19:06] <Kenseilon> oh, so then it's not updated
[19:07] <k1l_> Kenseilon: but then you did not install a 12.04.03
[19:07] <Perfect> MonkeyDust: my question about theme
[19:07] <Perfect> adwaita them
[19:07] <Perfect> MonkeyDust: http://s910.photobucket.com/user/myth-coder/media/74e66012-ed8c-4537-b1cb-27dc479bc961_zps9ddbd23a.png.html
[19:07] <k1l_> Kenseilon: then you need to install the enablement stack kernel backports. that you need to do by hand. so see the wiki page i showed
[19:07] <Kenseilon> ok, thanks =)
[19:08] <Perfect> MonkeyDust: Adwaita light or not dark theme, but in gedit it dark :(
[19:08] <Perfect> MonkeyDust: and som where has same problem
[19:10] <dadlis> Hello, world!
[19:12] <neyder> hi I have a dummy copy from an ubuntu recovery iso in a directory, is there any way to create a booteable iso from this?
[19:12] <davidjaysonfoste> quick question, running older intel dual core with nvidia 9600gt..games like Left 4 Dead 2 run perfect on steam, but others like brutal legend(older) doesn't
[19:13] <neyder> well it's  a copy from an HP recovery partition directory
[19:13] <dadlis> Hello, world!
[19:13] <Beldar> neyder, ubuntu recovery iso?
[19:14] <neyder> Beldar, it's from an HP 450 laptop with ubuntu preinstalled
[19:14] <Beldar> dadlis, Do you have a support issue?
[19:15] <Beldar> neyder, Not sure anyone here would know you might ask HP, however there are several ISO you could have what is the end goal?
[19:16] <neyder> Hp makes some modifications to this ubuntu so works well, my installation from official ISO are like buggy with wifi screenbrigtness and keyboard
[19:16] <Beldar> neyder, So should I extract from that you want their install again?
[19:17] <neyder> yep
[19:17] <Beldar> neyder, Those came with a recovery in a partition have you looked there?
[19:18] <Beldar> or is that what your referencing?
[19:18] <neyder> yes and I backed up all those files, but
[19:18] <neyder> i create a new partition table, so there is no recovery on my machine
[19:18] <Perfect> MonKeyDust: can you help me?
[19:19] <neyder> Someone can help me to understand this? is a script called generate-recovery-iso
[19:19] <neyder> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6516057/
[19:19] <Beldar> neyder, Ah, I would contact them, I would suspect you can get a oem disc from them.
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> Perfect: no, sorry
[19:19] <Perfect> :) thanks
[19:19] <neyder> Beldar, I asked so, but they don't provide ubuntu, you must download from ubuntu.com :(ç
[19:21] <neyder> this; mount -v -t aufs -o br:$TEMP:$BASE none $AUFS
[19:21] <dadlis> Hello, world!
[19:21] <Perfect> I need a gtk theme editor .... :(
[19:22] <k1l_> dadlis: no bots in here, please
[19:23] <Perfect> can someone help me?
[19:25] <Beldar> neyder, I would not know myself about the dummy iso use, however have you tried addressing the brightness issues here?
[19:25] <neyder> yep adding some apci option at boot
[19:26] <neyder> but it don't work in grub
[19:26] <Beldar> neyder, How have you added it?
[19:26] <xangua> Perfect: what exactly do you want¿
[19:27] <neyder> in /etc/default/grub GRUB_CMD_LINUX="acpi_blacklight=vendor"
[19:27] <neyder> or something like that
[19:28] <mxc> any juju guru's here? #juju is rather slow
[19:28] <Perfect> xangua: this my adwaita theme
[19:28] <Perfect> xangua: http://s910.photobucket.com/user/myth-coder/media/74e66012-ed8c-4537-b1cb-27dc479bc961_zps9ddbd23a.png.html
[19:28] <etymancer> would this be a good place to ask about a weird saucy problem?
[19:28] <etymancer> I've found a couple of references to it but no solution
[19:29] <Perfect> xangua: not a dark them, but some where it had same problem like gedit
[19:29] <Beldar> neyder, if you edit /etc/default/grub  you have to run sudo update-grub did you do this, use nicks here as well.
[19:29] <Perfect> xangua: Please  tell  me how to fix  it?
[19:29] <xangua> Perfect: no idea, i don't use gnome-shell or it's default theme
[19:30] <neyder> Beldar yes it works, but i have many issues with wifi and keyboard
[19:30] <xangua> Perfect: no idea if this helps you http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/customize-gtk3-gtk2-theme-colors-using.html
[19:30] <Perfect> xangua: no,it's ubuntu with unity theme
[19:31] <Beldar> neyder, Ah well than maybe the actual issues you have are pertinent here. Wifi you would want to identify the hardware lspci in the terminal would tell you what it is to post here. Keyboard I would not be sure.
[19:33] <neyder> keyboard is a mapping issue. i think i got a solution to my initial question
[19:33] <neyder> will try with this
[19:33] <Perfect> xangua: my desktop: http://s910.photobucket.com/user/myth-coder/media/Screenshotfrom2013-12-04023203_zps003e3867.png.html
[19:33] <neyder> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6516057/
[19:33] <Beldar> neyder, cool.
[19:34] <Beldar> !details | etymancer this is the place
[19:34] <marjinal1st> hi i'm using ubuntu 13.10 on my digitalocean server. latest kernel version i've used was 3.11.0-12, I updated package lists and upgraded packages, new kernel came out 3.11.0-14. I've updated grub but my system is still using old kernel, how do i fix it?
[19:34] <etymancer> cool, thanks :)
[19:35] <Beldar> marjinal1st, Do you have any other linux OS on this computer?
[19:35] <marjinal1st> Beldar: No, just ubuntu 13.10
[19:35] <Beldar> marjinal1st, Are you sure the kernel loaded with no mistakes, or have you modified grub?
[19:36] <etymancer> so: been using ubuntu for years. installed ubuntu server 13.10 and added desktop to it. after enabling workspaces most things are fine, but when I try to move a window to another workspace using "move to workspace right/left" or "move to workspace N", it disappears from the dock and is no longer visible. the program in question is still running but inaccessible from the window manager
[19:36] <etymancer> I expect this not to happen :)
[19:36] <marjinal1st> Beldar, I didn't modify grub. Just updated, upgraded packages and updated grub with update-grub2
[19:37] <kalakjsd> hi all, i am using ubuntu 12.04 and, i assigned meta+e for opening home folder, using dash>keyboard>keyboardshortcuts
[19:37] <Beldar> marjinal1st, update-grub is correct but update-grub2 should work this run in root?
[19:37] <kalakjsd> they worked properly
[19:38] <kalakjsd> but the problem is that
[19:38] <kalakjsd> they works only for one session
[19:38] <marjinal1st> Beldar, yep I've run it with sudo command
[19:38] <etymancer> (fyi, I used server rather than desktop for the install because I couldn't find any way to have root on raid10 from the desktop install)
[19:38] <Beldar> marjinal1st, strange is the os-prober installed
[19:38] <kalakjsd> after logout and login, settings remains same but don't work
[19:38] <kalakjsd> i mean, i have to open keyboard and shortcuts again
[19:39] <kalakjsd> and they starts to work again
[19:39] <marjinal1st> Beldar, any ideas for fixing it?
[19:39] <kalakjsd> same problem is in KDE
[19:39] <kalakjsd> and same problem is in ubuntu unity
[19:40] <Beldar> marjinal1st, strange is the os-prober installed
[19:40] <Beldar> the os-prober is what finds other OS and kernels
[19:42] <Beldar> marjinal1st, If it were me I would purge and reinstall grub, but this should not be happening, the kernel install alone should have updated the grub menu. You might ask in #grub
[19:42] <marjinal1st> Beldar, thanks for advice
[19:44] <Beldar> etymancer, This the unity desktop, and is other workspaces other monitors?
[19:44] <sda> hi all, I start ubuntu minimal on my laptop,it load the keyboard then freeze. When I check the kernel message i read: ieee80211 phy: brcnsnac: fail to load firmware brcm/bcm43xx-0.fw
[19:45] <mikeshollen_> I am having some problems installing Ubuntu Server 12.04. I created a 64 bit installation disk, and when I turn on my new computer it loads up the installer, recognizes my drive and runs through the install process. When it gets done, it reboots to a blank screen. Any ideas?
[19:45] <Beldar> sda, brcm/bcm43xx-0.fw is the wifi
[19:45] <etymancer> beldar: yes, unity. I have two monitors and six workspaces
[19:45] <jhutchins> mikeshollen_: Hold shift while it's booting.
[19:46] <etymancer> I haven't tried different configurations, but this is exactly how I had it set up with 12.10 before (besides using desktop rather than server)
[19:46] <Beldar> etymancer, Ah so get this clear the panel is not showing on the monitor only?
[19:46] <Beldar> to get*
[19:46] <etymancer> the panel?
[19:46] <jhutchins> mikeshollen_: If you get a menu, choose rescue mode.
[19:46] <sda> Beldar, yes they are. I don't care about them at this point of the installation, i can load them later, I'm ok with just ETH driver. How could just this problem?
[19:46] <mikeshollen_> jhutchins, thanks for the suggestion but it didn't work
[19:47] <eden> How can i undo this command? echo options psmouse proto=exps > /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.modprobe
[19:47] <etymancer> beldar: another odd thing I just noticed - only "move to workspace right" shows in the menu, no matter which workspace I'm on
[19:47] <Beldar> etymancer, Sorry I meant the disappearing window is when moved to the monitor, are they showing the unity panels?
[19:48] <mikeshollen_> jhutchins, did I do something wrong during the install?
[19:48] <Beldar> etymancer, right click the desktop and make sure the worlspaces are enabled.
[19:48] <jhutchins> eden: Delete or move the file.
[19:49] <etymancer> workspaces are definitely enabled: i can switch between them fine. I can drag a window partway off one workspace and then drag it on to the next
[19:49] <Beldar> etymancer, The is a click in the right click I forget its name to get to another gui for adjustmensta I forget it's actual name I use the shell.
[19:49] <etymancer> it's just using these menu options that causes this weird behavior :(
[19:49] <neyder>  /etc/buildstamp where is in 13.10
[19:49] <jhutchins> eden: Hopefully nothing was there before, because the command over-wrote any existing file.
[19:50] <mikeshollen_> Should I reinstall?
[19:51] <eden> How can i enable the right click function touchpad in my ubuntu 12.04>
[19:51] <eden> ?
[19:52] <Thell> Hi all!  Dumb question here => what should I check to figure out why a path isn't making it to the right target when which shows it does?
[19:52] <Thell> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6516195/
[19:52] <Thell> checked most things I can think of ( output in paste )
[19:52] <wheatthin> eden, I believe there's a synaptic touchpad package.. if you haven't already installed it anyways
[19:53] <eden> wheatthin, i installed synaptiks but no luck
[19:53] <nefarious> ls
[19:53] <Thell> also, .profile and .bashrc don't show anything specific to the target
[19:54] <nefarious> ls
[19:54] <nefarious> ls
[19:54] <k1l_> nefarious: that doesnt work on irc
[19:54] <wheatthin> eden, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[19:54] <jost> Since two or three days, I have no sound on my XUbuntu 13.10. The failure is not related to the upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10, that happened about a month ago. It also isn't a hardware failure, the sound works fine in windows. I've tried various fixes from Google, but nothing has helped so far. Can anyone assist me in fixing the problem?
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> jost: first step, open a terminal and type    alsamixer    anything wrong there?
[19:56] <wheatthin> jost, have you tried re-initializing alsamixer.. I've seen this happen a lot, which seems to fix it
[19:56] <wheatthin> kk i'll shh
[19:56] <jost> wheatthin: thanks anyway :-)
[19:57] <eden> wheatthin, still no clue about right click?
[19:57] <jost> MonkeyDust: it looks fine, but when increasing the master volume, a volume bar at the top right appears (never seen that before?!?) and shows a speaker with a cross in front of it. So I assume the sound is muted.
[19:59] <wheatthin> eden, I sent you a link about how to enable it.
[20:00] <MonkeyDust> jost: what happens if you click that?
[20:00] <jost> MonkeyDust: it disappears (its a notification, same thing that shows up e.g. for new emails)
[20:00] <wheatthin> jost if it's not there, follow that guide, and install dkms
[20:03] <rumperlstil> hello everyone, pidgin shows auth error for my accounts even though I added them with correct logins
[20:03] <jost> MonkeyDust: ok, unmuting helped, of course. Never muted it, that was probably the cat walking over the keyboard :-)
[20:04] <Thell> Update: disregard; I just had to restart my session.  Wierd but it worked. :)
[20:04] <brotti> hi
[20:07] <machinarius> Hey guys, did saucy change libc? Somehow /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so is a text file and mono is crashing because of that
[20:08] <tsimpson> machinarius: it was always a text file (it's a linker script)
[20:09] <kms_> help me please, i cantt load my installed OS Ubuntu 13.10 64bit on HP Pavilion v6, ... what is problem?
[20:10] <machinarius> tsimpson, oh i see. Where is the actual libc.so file? mono needs to load libc and is failing to do so
[20:10] <tsimpson> machinarius: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
[20:11] <machinarius> tsimpson, i happen not to have that file even after reinstalling libc6
[20:12] <machinarius> file /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 - /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: ERROR: cannot open `/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6' (No such file or directory)
[20:12] <tsimpson> machinarius: if you look at the contents of /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so it should have the file name in a line starting with GROUP
[20:14] <machinarius> Right, it's there
[20:14] <mikeshollen_> I am trying to install linux server 12.04, and I am being asked how I want to partition my disk, The guided options are 'reuse partition, LVM VG Ubuntu-vg, LV root', 'use entire disk', 'use entire partition, LVM VG Ubuntu-vg, LV root', 'use entire disk and set up LVM', or 'use entire disk and set up encrypted LVM'. Which one do I want?
[20:14] <tsimpson> http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/amd64/libc6/filelist says it should be there
[20:14] <mikeshollen_> I haven't be able to successfully install ubuntu server on this system yet btw
[20:15] <machinarius> Now i need to figure out how to tell mono the library is somewhere else - symlinking comes to mind as a bad idea though
[20:15] <euxneks> howdy, I need to forward a port to another port on the localmachine, how do I do that in ubuntu 13.10?
[20:15] <usr13> mikeshollen_: Use entire disk (Right?)
[20:16] <machinarius> euxneks, assuming you have done it on the router use "sudo ufw allow $port"
[20:16] <tovarish> euxneks, there should be a dirty solution using ssh tunnel
[20:16] <mikeshollen_> usr13, that's what i assumed. I'll give it a go
[20:16] <machinarius> where $port is the port number you need to open
[20:16] <mikeshollen_> usr13, does it automatically chose my swap file size?
[20:17] <euxneks> machinarius, I don't need to allow a port, I need to redirect from one port to another ..?
[20:17] <usr13> mikeshollen_: Not sure why you are getting option 'reuse partition, LVM VG Ubuntu-vg, LV root'  Did you have an install on it before? Or is that from a failed attempt?
[20:17] <machinarius> euxneks, oh my bad
[20:17] <mikeshollen_> usr13, i think from my failed attempt
[20:17] <euxneks> machinarius, it will be contained on a local machine anyway so FW doesn't matter :)
[20:18] <usr13> mikeshollen_: I usually choose my own partition sizes.
[20:18] <mikeshollen_> usr13, i tried installing the 64 bit 12.04 server LTS twice, and both times when i get done the system starts and then doesn't post
[20:18] <usr13> mikeshollen_: but that is up to you....
[20:18] <mikeshollen_> usr13, now I am trying the 32 bit version to see if that is what caused it not to work
[20:18] <usr13> mikeshollen_: 32bit is ok.
[20:19] <usr13> mikeshollen_: For server install 32 bit is just fine, in my opinion.
[20:19] <koyetsu>  mikeshollen_ do you mean doesn't post or doesn't boot?
[20:19] <usr13> koyetsu: I think he means it just doesn't boot.  Right mikeshollen_ ?
[20:20] <jhutchins> mikeshollen_: Problems with 64b tend to be things where there isn't a 64b version of some package (ie wine) available.
[20:20] <mikeshollen_> koyetsu, I think both
[20:20] <jhutchins> mikeshollen_: If you have a 64b processor, the 64b kernel will run on it, and you can run the 64b user environment.
[20:20] <mikeshollen_> koyetsu, the system powers up, and then the screen is just blank
[20:21] <euxneks> does ubuntu 13.10 use iptables?
[20:21] <usr13> mikeshollen_: Well, at any rate, just see if you can get through this install....
[20:21] <tovarish> euxneks, yes
[20:21] <tovarish> it's in the kernel
[20:21] <jhutchins> mikeshollen_: That sounds like a bad grub install, it's not getting as far as the kernel.
[20:21] <Beldar> euxneks, Only if you set them up
[20:21] <mikeshollen_> jhutchins, how do I fix that? why did it install incorrectly?
[20:21] <jhutchins> mikeshollen_: Good questions.  You never get a grub menu, right?  Have you tried holding the shift key while it boots?
[20:22] <Beldar> !iptables
[20:22] <jhutchins> mikeshollen_: Have you tried going into the bios?
[20:22] <mikeshollen_> jhutchins, yes i held shift and nothing happens
[20:22] <Beldar> euxneks, ^^^^^^^^^^^^ see bots info
[20:22] <mikeshollen_> jhutchins, i did go into bios, nothing in there that seems useful
[20:22] <neyder> Hey Beldar I did it!
[20:22] <Beldar> neyder, Cool, good job. ;)
[20:23] <jhutchins> mikeshollen_: See if anything here helps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[20:23] <jhutchins> mikeshollen_: Make sure it's instlling to the right place.
[20:23] <neyder> I have now a recovery.iso for HP 450
[20:23] <neyder> :B
[20:24] <jhutchins> neyder: Windows recovery iso?
[20:24] <Guest13941> I tried to do the update so I could get the new 14.04 version but had problems
[20:24] <neyder> jhutchins, ubuntu recovery iso
[20:24] <jhutchins> neyder: Excellent.
[20:25] <rumperlstil> how can I upgrade pidgin to its current version 2.10.7. ?
[20:25] <nannes> Hi everybody
[20:25] <rumperlstil> I have 2.10.3 installed
[20:25] <neyder> 2.1GB where can I upload taht?
[20:25] <nannes> Why  the "ssd" module has been removed in ubuntu 12.04 precise?
[20:25] <Beldar> neyder, Does HP keep up with the releases so you at least can get beyond the original install when you purchased? And what release was that.
[20:26] <mikeshollen_> Yeah I think the GRUB thing never loaded
[20:26] <mikeshollen_> The system literally powered on, and nothing ever happened on the monitor
[20:26] <nannes> My b44 needs "ssd" to make my ethernet-chip work
[20:26] <Beldar> mikeshollen_, No X correct?
[20:26] <nannes> but lsmod doesn't return any "ssd" module
[20:26] <mikeshollen_> beldar, i don't understand
[20:26] <usr13> Beldar: He is doing a server install.
[20:26] <nannes> And sudo modprobe ssd  returns "FATAL: module ssd not found"
[20:26] <nannes> So?
[20:27] <Beldar> mikeshollen_, This is a server with no desktop X would be a desktop.
[20:27] <Guest13941> I have terminal open was it an apt get cmd?
[20:27] <neyder> Beldar yep, It's a 12.04  with rigth configurations for HP 450
[20:27] <mikeshollen_> beldar, nothing posted to the screen
[20:27] <mikeshollen_> beldar, it literally powers on, and the monitor just says no input
[20:27] <Beldar> mikeshollen_, Ah, no dual booting here?
[20:27] <mikeshollen_> beldar, no dual booting
[20:27] <neyder> it first create a table partition, and create recovery partition and copy itself . after reboot and starts fron that recovery partition et voila!
[20:27] <mikeshollen_> beldar, i bought this system to be a dedicated server
[20:28] <geekmasterflash> mikeshollen_, Does it have multiple vga ports?
[20:28] <geekmasterflash> mikeshollen_, or even, did it once have a video card installed that was recently removed?
[20:28] <mikeshollen_> geekmasterflash, good thought. it has a via and an hdmi. i have the bios set for HDMI as default
[20:28] <mikeshollen_> geekmasterflash, i do not have a vga connection available
[20:28] <jhutchins> mikeshollen_: That page should have instructions for installing or repairing grub2.
[20:29] <neyder> and it has HP docs oº_
[20:29] <mikeshollen_> geekmasterflash, the system has integrated video and no room for a video card
[20:29] <neyder> º_ª
[20:29] <Beldar> mikeshollen_, Cool, this is a msdos regular partitioning, I ask as there is the bootrepair app which would setup grub, if you did not want to chroot from a live cd and do allthat.
[20:29] <neyder> ok ok so many candies for today
[20:29] <geekmasterflash> mikeshollen_, Generally when seeing a "no input" message, it tells me your computer literally isn't using the video output at all.
[20:29] <jhutchins> mikeshollen_: You will need to boot from a CD/USB, mount the system partition, proc, and sys, then chroot and run grub-update and grub-install.
[20:30] <mikeshollen_> now on the 32 bit install it says installation failed
[20:30] <mikeshollen_> says an installation step fails and i can continue
[20:30] <geekmasterflash> mikeshollen_, Perhaps there is some driver missing for HDMI? If you have ssh server running you can ssh to it and check what the card is and thus what drivers are required
[20:30] <jhutchins> mikeshollen_: Which step?
[20:30] <mikeshollen_> i don't know
[20:30] <Beldar> mikeshollen_, You have good help though so carry on
[20:30] <usr13> mikeshollen_: Does it give any details?  (Reason for failure?)
[20:31] <mikeshollen_> 'An installation step failed. You can try to run the failing item again from the menu, or soil it and choose something else. The failing step is: Select and install software"
[20:31] <Guest13941> help!?
[20:31] <ggg___> hi everyone
[20:31] <usr13> mikeshollen_: Check the install media for defect.
[20:31] <ekristen> any reason why dpkg -i mypackage.deb would act differently then apt-get install mypackage
[20:31] <ggg___> is someone aware of a software of which i could extract and save b-frames from an mkv video for example? i've searched a couple of sites but with no success at all
[20:31] <ekristen> both deb packages are the same one is just local vs on an repo
[20:32] <ekristen> the apt-get install doesn't seem to be installing the deb properly
[20:32] <mikeshollen_> I apologize, but I am a very big nub. You will have to give me more specific instructions. Can I check the media from the disk menu?
[20:32] <usr13> ekristen: apt-get does not install .deb files, use dpkg
[20:33] <usr13> ekristen: What package is it?
[20:33] <mikeshollen_> i believe the step that failed was installing openssh
[20:33] <geekmasterflash> ekristen, The difference between them can be quite large. apt-getting a package means getting it and it's dependencies. Installing a deb means hoping you have the dependencies met
[20:34] <usr13> mikeshollen_: Well, first I would do a checksum on the ISO you downloaded.
[20:34] <usr13> mikeshollen_: md5sum the iso and google it.
[20:34] <endika> hello
[20:36] <Guest13941> so can anyone help me with my ubuntu 14.04 update problem???
[20:36] <ekristen> usr13: custom package I am working on
[20:36] <grayscale> Guest13941, whats the problem :)
[20:36] <ekristen> dpkg -i creates the /usr/share/mypackage folder
[20:36] <ekristen> but apt-get install of the same deb file does not
[20:37] <Guest13941> well I tried to do it yesterday and it would not work what is the terminal CMD to do it
[20:37] <gordonjcp> !update
[20:40] <Beldar> Guest13941, You want #ubuntu+1 for 14.04 issues
[20:40] <poseid> hey there… was trying out to install nodejs on saucy, but executing "node" gives python stuff...
[20:41] <Beldar> Guest13941, Are you running 14.04 or are you trying to upgrade to it?
[20:41] <mikeshollen_> ok, cd disk check utility said the checksum failed. that explained the error but still not the lack of post for the 64 bit version
[20:42] <rumperlstil> how can I upgrade pidgin to its current version 2.10.7. ?  I currently have 2.10.3 installed, and have a problem of auth error., though my login details are correct
[20:42] <Guest13941> upgrade to 14.04 and update manager was no help
[20:43] <neyder> http://hp.archive.canonical.com/updates/dists/precise-stella-osaka
[20:43] <Beldar> Guest13941, Are you aware that 14.04 is in development and the genral advisement would not to run it as a main use install.
[20:43] <ballingt> any difference between running apt-get update in a terminal vs a script? Running it with fabric seems not to make various apt-get install commands work, though running it interactives makes them work
[20:44] <xangua> rumperlstil: http://pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/
[20:44] <Beldar> !tab | Guest13941
[20:44] <k1l_> Guest13941: 14.04 is in development. #ubuntu+1 is the proper channel for issues with that
[20:44] <Guest13941> oh thanks I did not know that it was that new
[20:44] <neyder> http://hp.archive.canonical.com/updates/dists/precise-stella-osaka repo for HP 450
[20:44] <mikeshollen_> do i want to setup LVM?
[20:45] <Beldar> Guest13941, I'm on 14.04 right now, but I also have 13.10 and 12.04 installed
[20:45] <mikeshollen_> or just use the entire disk?
[20:47] <Mitizaro> Hey there!! I'm running Ubuntu 12.04
[20:47] <Mitizaro> And i cant seem to be able to install Chrome
[20:47] <Mitizaro> Is there some official issue with it?
[20:47] <Rory> Mitizaro: What happens when you try?
[20:47] <Mitizaro> well
[20:47] <Mitizaro> i do install it but - i cant run it
[20:48] <Mitizaro> i get an error
[20:48] <Beldar> Mitizaro, post the errors
[20:48] <Mitizaro> i first downloaded the Ubuntu/debian   .deb file and manually installed it -- then i reinstalled from the software channel
[20:48] <Mitizaro> how?
[20:48] <Guest13941> well my version is called chromium for my linux google browser
[20:48] <Rory> Mitizaro: If you open a terminal, and run "google-chrome" or "chromium" (depending on which you installed) you will see some descriptive error output. Please share that with us
[20:48] <Rory> !paste | Mitizaro
[20:49] <Beldar> Mitizaro, This chromium or chrome?
[20:49] <rumperlstil> xangua, I'd found this page; https://launchpad.net/~pidgin-developers/+archive/ppa
[20:49] <Mitizaro> Chrome
[20:49] <Beldar> Mitizaro, The google install?
[20:49] <Mitizaro> yes
[20:49] <Rory> Mitizaro: Basically, what does the error say? Without that nobody can help at all :)
[20:49] <Mitizaro> sec
[20:50] <Mitizaro> lol do i type "!paste | Mitizaro" in the terminal?
[20:50] <Beldar> Mitizaro, Use nicks here you can tab complete nicks, post the error of running chrome in the terminal with out sudo of course. Might be chrome-browser not sure.
[20:51] <Rory> Mitizaro: On the terminal you type: google-chrome
[20:51] <k1l_> Mitizaro: https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/index.html?platform=linux_ubuntu_i386#eula   get the 32bit or 64 bit version as needed. install it. done
[20:51] <SuperMiron> Beldar, it's google-chrome
[20:51] <Mitizaro> okay
[20:51] <Rory> Mitizaro: Then copy and paste (ctrl-shift-c to copy from a terminal) and paste onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:51] <Mitizaro> then?
[20:51] <Rory> Mitizaro: And let us know the URL, so we can see what you have pasted
[20:51] <Mitizaro> ok here it is:
[20:52] <Mitizaro> [1203/225127:ERROR:nacl_helper_linux.cc(233)] NaCl helper process running without a sandbox!
[20:52] <Mitizaro> Most likely you need to configure your SUID sandbox correctly
[20:52] <Mitizaro> it is short
[20:52] <Rory> ooh weird. Mitizaro how did you install chrome? use k1l_ 's link above
[20:52] <Mitizaro> i did
[20:52] <Beldar> SuperMiron, I see that thanks, I don't use chrome.
[20:53] <Mitizaro> that is the exact link i used
[20:53] <Mitizaro> then i copied it into tmp and used "sudo -i dpkg chrome---.deb"
[20:54] <Rory> Mitizaro: I doubt that's *exactly* what you used but I get the picture. Could you try to reinstall it?
[20:54] <Mitizaro> i did
[20:54] <Mitizaro> from the terminal
[20:54] <Mitizaro> oops
[20:54] <Mitizaro> the
[20:54] <FloodBot1> Mitizaro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:54] <Mitizaro> software channel - just hit "reinstall" (surprised it was there lol) and it did its thing
[20:54] <Mitizaro> then again - cant even run it
[20:55] <Mitizaro> i HAVE the updates... so wtf :/
[20:55] <Rory> Mitizaro: Can you download it to your Downloads folder, and show me the output of: sudo apt-get purge google-chrome && sudo dpkg -i name-of-chrome-deb.deb
[20:55] <Beldar> Mitizaro, when you added the chrome repo did you run an update?
[20:55] <Rory> Mitizaro: replace name-of-chrome-deb with the actual name, I can't remember it off the top of my head
[20:55] <Mitizaro> update?
[20:56] <Beldar> Mitizaro, When you add a repo you run a update to sync the servers
[20:56] <Mitizaro> um i updated the system cuz this is fresh OS on the pc
[20:56] <Mitizaro> but i havent updated anything with the app specifically
[20:56] <Beldar> Mitizaro, BUt did you do it after adding the chrome repo?
[20:57] <Mitizaro> i installed the chrome - COULDN'T run it, THEN updated then reinstalled and then couldnt again
[20:57] <Beldar> Mitizaro, Are you getting my point on adding a repo?
[20:57] <Mitizaro> oh, sec
[20:57] <Rory> Mitizaro: Can you try completely removing the package with the command "sudo apt-get --purge remove google-chrome"
[20:57] <Beldar> Mitizaro, You would add the repo run a update, than install.
[20:57] <Rory> Mitizaro: Then sync the repos with "sudo apt-get update"
[20:58] <Mitizaro> oh i see
[20:58] <zyzzyva> Hi, I have a grub issue.  Ubuntu 12.04 (studio) -- dual boot with win7 -- accidentally selected "windows 7 recovery mode" from grub list at boot and it seems to have effed grub's ability to read ext4 partitions.  First I dropped into grub-rescue on boot, but booting from liveCD and running 'boot-repair' did fix the windows partition.  However...
[20:58] <Mitizaro> so i ran the update
[20:58] <Mitizaro> will purge it if it doesnt work after it
[20:58] <Mitizaro> and reinstall from downloads
[20:58] <zyzzyva> now it thinks my main partition, the ubuntu one, which is ext4, is "free space."  Boot-repair can't fix grub because grub is ON that partition
[20:58] <zyzzyva> SOS, thanks in advance
[20:59] <Mitizaro> nah, cant run it again.. reinstalling
[20:59] <Mitizaro> ok removed guys
[20:59] <Beldar> Mitizaro, purged yes?
[21:00] <jhutchins> zyzzyva: It's pretty much expected behavior that a windows restore program will obliterate a dual-boot linux installation.
[21:00] <zyzzyva> it is a ubuntu restore program
[21:00] <Mitizaro> yes
[21:00] <Mitizaro> so i'm installing it from downloads
[21:00] <jhutchins> zyzzyva: does fdisk know it's a linux partition?
[21:00] <Mitizaro> using sudo -i dpkg and the path
[21:00] <Beldar> jhutchins, Can happen, but all my restores have a manual option and I can save the ubuntu installs.
[21:00] <Mitizaro> (just the name doesnt fit it - i have to add the /home/mitizaro/Downloads/google-chrome.deb   as well)
[21:00] <zyzzyva> jhutchins: I will paste output of fdisk -l in a sec
[21:01] <Mitizaro> btw - does chromium have the flash plugins from chrome?
[21:01] <Mitizaro> because i'm really after that only
[21:01] <Beldar> Mitizaro, No chrome only has it's flash
[21:01] <zyzzyva> jhutchins: do you mean that even booting into "recovery mode" ran some windows restore program?
[21:02] <Mitizaro> ok - sorta completed... half-way:
[21:02] <Beldar> zyzzyva, Did you run the bootrepair and save the bootinfo summary?
[21:02] <Mitizaro> hows the pastie link again?
[21:03] <Beldar> !pastebin > Mitizaro
[21:03] <zyzzyva> Beldar: should be able to find that, I'll paste that too
[21:03] <Beldar> zyzzyva, Cool that is an important script.
[21:04] <zyzzyva> ok to run boot repair a 2nd time if I don't find the old url?
[21:04] <Mitizaro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6516508/
[21:04] <Beldar> zyzzyva, You can run just the summary.
[21:04] <Mitizaro> this is where the installation.. just sorta fades away shall i say?
[21:04] <zyzzyva> Beldar: ok, thanks
[21:04] <Mitizaro> that happened last time too
[21:05] <Mitizaro> oh, cant i just get some small flash... :(
[21:05] <wheatthin> I think you must use adobe flash itself.
[21:06] <Mitizaro> nah i think i can get away with chrome
[21:06] <Mitizaro> and ding-ding - there is NO flash for linux
[21:06] <Mitizaro> even ubuntu, as far as i know
[21:06] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, My installation of flash disagrees with you.
[21:07] <wheatthin> Umm.. lol no support for it, but there is.
[21:07] <Mitizaro> ...... LOL WTF!?!?
[21:07] <Mitizaro> PLEASE TELL ME
[21:07] <FloodBot1> Mitizaro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:07] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, There is just no DECENT flash client
[21:07] <Mitizaro> MASTERS!!
[21:07] <Mitizaro> um i want to run a nice online flash based (game) site for sooooo long
[21:07] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, Well, my flash install came with Firefox when I apt-get it
[21:07] <Mitizaro> PLEASE tell me how! :)
[21:07] <Beldar> Mitizaro, The google downloads gives you a deb, I use gdebi to install any external debs, it needs to be installed, and will tell you of any missing packages needed with the deb and will install them, or error on the install.
[21:08] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, Flash 11.2.202.327
[21:08] <Mitizaro> ok so gdebi from software channel?
[21:08] <Mitizaro> geekmaster - can i ask u to try the site? cuz i have that flash too and - no can do sir!
[21:08] <brontosaurusrex> Mitizaro, afaik it is possible to use pepper-flash from chrome with chromium, but not sure what the procedure.
[21:09] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, What is the site? It's probably just a permission error
[21:09] <Mitizaro> saga.games.la -- username: Mitizaro,  password: konohakage1064 - select ANY server
[21:09] <Mitizaro> and use it
[21:09] <Mitizaro> (start game - select one of the boxes with servers bellow on left and A NEW WINDOW APPEARS)
[21:09] <Mitizaro> but then -- i get BLACK screen instead of the flash game
[21:10] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, I am currently playing the game.
[21:10] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, I am looking at some girl with a mask on her head
[21:10] <Mitizaro> whoa!!!
[21:10] <Mitizaro> amazing
[21:10] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, And what looks to be a wildly inappropriate dress for a girl of that age
[21:10] <Mitizaro> wait a second..
[21:10] <brontosaurusrex> Mitizaro, disable hardware acceleration in flash plugin perhaps?
[21:10] <Mitizaro> i've heard abou
[21:10] <Mitizaro> flash being unfriendly with some old AMDs
[21:11] <Mitizaro> i have 11 old PC, but it has 2,6ghz AMD, 1,3GB Ram and nvidia 5900
[21:11] <Mitizaro> unless flash really hates me
[21:11] <Mitizaro> i cant see the reason :/
[21:11] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, Unfortunately, flash is closed source
[21:11] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, So it can't be debugged by us
[21:12] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, But I can say it's working on my AMD machine
[21:12] <Mitizaro> how old is it?
[21:12] <Mitizaro> i have just the regular flash from... i mean the latest from the software channel, yes?
[21:12] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, Not old, it's an FC-9590
[21:12] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, Oh, the flash version
[21:12] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, No idea, I added the non-free repo
[21:13] <Mitizaro> oooh i see
[21:13] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, And downloaded it from there and it works like a charm
[21:13] <Mitizaro> can u explain me what are those non free repos?
[21:13] <wheatthin> it's free, just not opened
[21:13] <Mitizaro> illegal? stolen?
[21:13] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[21:13] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, Might I suggest removing the flash you have
[21:14] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, And using the non-free repo to install it
[21:14] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, I have never had a problem with it, other than freezing up (plays everything otherwise)
[21:14] <Mitizaro> ok but what is non-free repo?
[21:14] <wheatthin> from adobe.
[21:14] <deepfreez> what is more stable
[21:14] <deepfreez> ubuntu or debian?
[21:15] <Mitizaro> oh i see
[21:15] <Mitizaro> ok i will get it
[21:15] <Mitizaro> "ubuntu-restricted-extra" just that??
[21:15] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, It's called the restricted extras. I think you can add it by doing sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:15] <k1l_> deepfreez: better ask in ##linux for that comparison
[21:15] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, Or use this link: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/ubuntu-restricted-extras/
[21:15] <deepfreez> thanks
[21:15] <Mitizaro> ok but why are they restricted?
[21:15] <Pici> deepfreez: we sync from Debian Unstable generally, so feel free to extrapolate your own answer from there.
[21:16] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, Because it's not an open source program
[21:16] <Mitizaro> oh i see
[21:16] <Mitizaro> i get it
[21:16] <Mitizaro> the use is fre but not the engeneering
[21:16] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, Meaning Ubuntu and others dont have the right to give it out as standard
[21:16] <Mitizaro> aha
[21:16] <Mitizaro> cool with me - gonna get it
[21:16]  * hassen wants to become a genius.,as well a kinux geek.
[21:16] <Mitizaro> so now i remove the flash plugin from software channel
[21:16] <k1l_> Mitizaro: you should read about "free software". its not meant free as in free-beer
[21:16] <hassen> *linux*
[21:16] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, No idea, you are on your own for that one
[21:17] <Gorroth_work> hi
[21:17] <Mitizaro> and when i get the restircted extras
[21:17] <Mitizaro> its automaticly installed?
[21:17] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, You will need to remove the flashplugin.so and any other attempted flash installs
[21:17] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, Yes, but it will likely fail if you have some other flash version installed at the same time
[21:17] <Mitizaro> hmm
[21:17] <Mitizaro> whats the purge, do u know?
[21:17] <Mitizaro> i removed the only flash i saw in software channel
[21:18] <mikeshollen_> Ok, so I reinstalled Server 64bit, and now I got the GRUB menu to load. When I ask it to load Ubuntu, with Linux 3.8.0-29-generic, nothing seems to happen. Suggestions?
[21:18] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, All I know if that you will want to look in your mozilla folder for the flashplugin.so and nuke it before trying to install the one from repo
[21:18] <Gorroth_work> anyone here familiar with the sudoers file?  i want to make it when i connect to my Ubuntu VM from a particular host, i can run "sudo" without entering a passwd.  although, if i connect to that same VM from another host, i want to have to enter a passwd
[21:18] <Mitizaro> nice
[21:19] <Mitizaro> um do u know where the mozilla folder is?? :D
[21:20] <Guest13941> i'm having trouble finding apps/accessories
[21:21] <kaleki> Amazon Instant Video status: Still struggling
[21:21] <kaleki> DRM is my bane right now.
[21:21] <geekmasterflash> kaleki, I have never gotten Amazong Instant Video to work
[21:21] <geekmasterflash> kaleki, Though, I have managed to get netflix working
[21:22] <deepfreez> :) have debian server pppoe predefinited?
[21:22] <deepfreez> ups
[21:22] <deepfreez> ubuntu *
[21:22] <kaleki> geekmasterflash I have in the past, but this is 400x more difficult
[21:22] <Mitizaro> geekmaster - do u know where could that firefox folder be? i have no idea about linux filesystem core
[21:22] <Guest13941> never mind I found it
[21:22] <zyzzyva> jhutchins, Beldar: fdisk output: http://www.fpaste.org/58782/61056241/  |  boot-repair summary: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6516578/
[21:22] <kaleki> geekmasterflash How did you get netflix going? Moonlight?
[21:23] <zyzzyva> the reason there are 5 partitions, as far as I understand it, is that the 5th (swap) is part of the 4th
[21:23] <geekmasterflash> kaleki, http://www.compholio.com/wine-compholio/
[21:23] <jhutchins> zyzzyva: Windows recovery zapped your install.
[21:23] <zyzzyva> does that mean my data is unrecoverable?
[21:23] <jhutchins> zyzzyva: Yes.
[21:24] <zyzzyva> that is horrible!
[21:24] <jhutchins> zyzzyva: Except perhaps by forensic recovery methods, depending on whether anything was written to the space.
[21:24] <kaleki> geekmasterflash My man. 900,000 upvotes to your sir
[21:25] <zyzzyva> jhutchins: wow.  I've never tried those.  Do you know of a channel for help with that?
[21:25] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, I think I found it
[21:25] <Beldar> zyzzyva, bummer, you can clone your installs for just such situations though.
[21:25] <Mitizaro> nice
[21:25] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, you may find it in /usr/libs/firefox-addons/plugins
[21:25] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, it's called libflashplayer.so
[21:25] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, You will want to delete it and then try using the repo install
[21:26] <Mitizaro> ok
[21:26] <zyzzyva> Beldar: true -- my last was a few months back
[21:26] <kaleki> Has anyone in here been able to get instant video to work?
[21:26] <Mitizaro> my folders are not containing any file like that
[21:27] <Mitizaro> i dont suppose its invisible, so i might assume i dont have it (already uninstalled it from software channel)
[21:27] <geekmasterflash> kaleki, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2099212
[21:27] <geekmasterflash> kaleki, It seems that some people have had good luck using chrome
[21:27] <kaleki> geekmasterflash Thanks, hadn't seen this thread
[21:28] <Mitizaro> okay since i dont find it - time to install!!
[21:28] <Mitizaro> ok in the process..
[21:29] <Mitizaro> otoh is there a reason Chrome to be broken for me? (unable to run it)
[21:30] <zyzzyva> has anyone here done data recovery on a linux ext4 partition before?
[21:31] <gordonjcp> zyzzyva: yes
[21:31] <gordonjcp> zyzzyva: use testdisk
[21:31] <Mitizaro> ok installed them...
[21:31] <Mitizaro> cross-fingers dude!!!!
[21:32] <Mitizaro> aaand no - i get the "get adobe flash player" icon
[21:32] <Mitizaro> in firefox
[21:32] <Mitizaro> ;(
[21:33] <zyzzyva> gordonjcp: can it repair the filesystem / boot process, or just save the data to a secondary location?
[21:33] <Beldar> Mitizaro, Please use nicks here you can tab complete them.
[21:33] <Mitizaro> huh? nicks??
[21:33] <Beldar> !tab | Mitizaro
[21:34] <Mitizaro> geekmasterflash: u there bro?
[21:34] <Beldar> Mitizaro, nick is your name here.
[21:34] <Mitizaro> !tab | geekmasterflash
[21:35] <Beldar> Mitizaro, Your kinda jumping around and not really reading all the posts sent to you, this along with being new to linux is a downfall in getting fixes.
[21:35] <Mitizaro> i've read everything
[21:35] <Beldar> Mitizaro, The tab is to complete a nick.
[21:35] <gordonjcp> zyzzyva: it saves it to another location
[21:35] <Mitizaro> yeah but i cant seem to make it?? tab+click on name?
[21:35] <gordonjcp> zyzzyva: I *think* it can work "in place" but that's dangerous
[21:35] <zyzzyva> gordonjcp: ok, I'll have to find a way to make space for it all
[21:35] <Beldar> Mitizaro, You just answerd me without my nick.
[21:36] <Mitizaro> oh i see
[21:36] <Mitizaro> Beldar: i see
[21:36] <zyzzyva> gordonjcp: can I run it just to find out if it can see the information at all?
[21:36] <gordonjcp> zyzzyva: I think so
[21:36] <Beldar> Mitizaro,  Did you see my post on gdebi?
[21:36] <Mitizaro> Beldar: yes i did i will try it now
[21:37] <Beldar> Mitizaro, Cool, if you actually have chrome purged, use it ti install the deb from the official google download of chrome.
[21:38] <Mitizaro> ok
[21:38] <Mitizaro> Beldar:  ok
[21:38] <server_> Всем привет
[21:39] <Mitizaro> geekmasterflash:  do u just install  the restricted stuff and then.. flash is ready? or do u have to add flash again?
[21:39] <server_> есть русские?
[21:41] <Beldar> !ru | server_
[21:41] <server_>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[21:42] <muh2000> icq login down right now?
[21:43] <kaleki> For those of you on Ubuntu Gnome and using Firefox, install the Tiny Menu add on
[21:43] <kaleki> Then disable the menu toolbar
[21:43] <kaleki> It removes A LOT of extra chrome
[21:43] <maujhsn> How to you set "root" or administrator permissions on a new ly installed liveUSB?
[21:43] <Mitizaro> ok i really dont get it..
[21:44] <Mitizaro> Beldar: doesnt work
[21:44] <Mitizaro> Beldar:  installed it, but the SAME result -- deinstalled with the gdebi, then installed it with the same tool - nothing
[21:45] <Beldar> Mitizaro, I am not sure you have purged chrome, or that the initial install was incorrect in oreder to get it working.
[21:45] <Mitizaro> ??
[21:45] <Mitizaro> i purged it
[21:45] <Beldar> Mitizaro, The deinstall with gdebi is not a purge.
[21:45] <Mitizaro> with the terminal and the gdebi (for some reason it wanted to deisntall again - did it)
[21:45] <zyzzyva> gordonjcp: it found the files!  I'm a bit confused by the 'deleted' marker it shows on the list
[21:45] <Mitizaro> i used  sudo apt-get purge google-chrome
[21:45] <mikeshollen_> I am able to get the GRUB boot loader to load on my system, but after I select my OS it just goes to a blank screen.
[21:46] <Mitizaro> and gave me three 0 at the end - 0 to upgrade, 0 to install and one more.
[21:46] <zyzzyva> gordonjcp: http://www.fpaste.org/58790/86107157/
[21:47] <Beldar> Mitizaro, Do that again, then open home and hit ctrl-h to unhide and click on .config and make sure there is no google-chrome there, then install again.
[21:47] <zyzzyva> gordonjcp: if there's a way to repair the metadata in-place so it no longer thinks the partition is marked for deletion, I'd like to try that
[21:48] <Mitizaro> ok
[21:48] <zyzzyva> gordonjcp: then maybe it could boot normally?  I just don't know what's possible.  I can see lists of all my files, though, so I know they're safe for the moment
[21:48] <Zooklubba> I had a bunch of packages upgraded using apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, I now did a reboot and I can't ssh to the server anymore. No physical access, but I can get access through a recovery system. Not sure how or what to debug though. Trying to ssh just says connection refused.
[21:48] <Beldar> Mitizaro, For the record you claim to deinstall with gdebi and run a purge, yo0u can't remove something twice.
[21:48] <Zooklubba> Nginx is running when I cant connect, so I know the server has started
[21:49] <Mitizaro> oooooh
[21:49] <Mitizaro> lol
[21:49] <Mitizaro> sec
[21:49] <Mitizaro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6516683/
[21:52] <Beldar> Mitizaro, always show the whole process including the commands you have run.
[21:53] <Mitizaro> sec
[21:53] <Beldar> Mitizaro, run sudo apt-get purge google-chrome-stable
[21:53] <usr13> mikeshollen_: Still there?
[21:53] <mikeshollen_> yes
[21:53] <zyzzyva> Beldar, gordonjcp -- I can change the flag what I know to be a linux partition to "primary bootable" instead of "deleted"
[21:53] <Mitizaro> sec
[21:53] <zyzzyva> is that sane?
[21:53] <Mitizaro> thats what i did
[21:53] <mikeshollen_> usr13, yes
[21:54] <Beldar> Mitizaro, google-chrome-stable are you sure?
[21:54] <usr13> mikeshollen_: Blank screen?  Is it just black?  (There is no output from the video card to the monitor?)
[21:54] <Mitizaro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6516698/
[21:54] <Mitizaro> yes, sir! i am!
[21:54] <mikeshollen_> usr13, after the grub, there is no output to monitor
[21:54] <usr13> mikeshollen_: What kind of monitor is it?
[21:54] <Beldar> Mitizaro, That last pastebin does not have a stable after google-chrome
[21:54] <mikeshollen_> hdmi/vga hanns G
[21:54] <mikeshollen_> known good monitor, works for my other computers
[21:55] <usr13> mikeshollen_: What display adpater is it?
[21:55] <maujhsn> How  do you set "root" or "administrator" permissions on a newly installed liveUSB?
[21:55] <mikeshollen_> usr13, i tried both vga and hdmi
[21:55] <Mitizaro> oh..
[21:55] <usr13> mikeshollen_: So you have vga and hdmi ports on the display adapter?
[21:55] <mikeshollen_> yes
[21:56] <Mitizaro> lol
[21:56] <Mitizaro> looool
[21:56] <Mitizaro> finally
[21:56] <usr13> mikeshollen_: And you also have hdmi and vga ports on the monitor?
[21:56] <mikeshollen_> usr13, yes
[21:57] <usr13> mikeshollen_: Does the monitor report that there is no input?
[21:57] <Beldar> Mitizaro, now open home hit ctrl-h and open .config and make sure there is no google-chrome if there is send it to trash then run the gdebi install.
[21:57] <mikeshollen_> usr13, yes
[21:57] <deepfreez> what version of ubuntu recomanded?
[21:57] <deepfreez> 13 or 12?
[21:57] <deepfreez> http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=server&bits=64&release=latest
[21:57] <deepfreez> ?
[21:57] <usr13> But yet the grub screen comes up?  Right?
[21:57] <Beldar> deepfreez, no recommendations that is your choice
[21:58] <Beldar> deepfreez, 12.04 has 5 years supprt however
[21:58] <usr13> mikeshollen_: But yet the grub screen comes up?  Right?
[21:58] <mikeshollen_> usr13, i have an old ubuntu 8 desktop version of hardy that has live boot on the CD. I tested the disk in my desktop and it still can live boot. when i try on the server, the monitor is just blank (though it doesn't say no input like it does with the server install)
[21:58] <Mitizaro> ok the process ended strangely
[21:58] <mikeshollen_> usr13, when i tap the spacebar during boot, GRUB will load and post
[21:58] <deepfreez> Beldar, understand, but 13 is more better like 12
[21:58] <Beldar> !best | deepfreez
[21:58] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, You need to add usernames to responses or we will have no idea who you are talking to
[21:58] <Beldar> deepfreez, better is asubjective.
[21:59] <deepfreez> thanks
[21:59] <Beldar> Mitizaro, pastebin the command and errors
[21:59] <Mitizaro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6516729/
[21:59] <usr13> mikeshollen_: So you see things going by after the grub screen?  (In other words you see bootup information going by?)
[21:59] <Mitizaro> its not error but... ending like that? @ Beldar
[21:59] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, Totally normal
[22:00] <Mitizaro> oh, ok
[22:00] <mikeshollen_> usr13, no, i only see the grub screen. the moment i hit enter to select linux to boot from, it goes blank and that's the end
[22:00] <usr13> mikeshollen_: No errors no nothing?
[22:00] <mikeshollen_> usr13, nothing
[22:00] <Mitizaro> Beldar:  there is no chrome in .config
[22:00] <usr13> mikeshollen_: What ISO did you get?
[22:01] <Mitizaro> Beldar: now GDEBI?
[22:01] <mikeshollen_> usr13, ubuntu server 12.04 LTS 64
[22:01] <Beldar> Mitizaro, yep all normal, hehe you will get this linux thing after awhile its not easy takes awhile. ;) Okay install again using gdebi
[22:01] <usr13> mikeshollen_: Did you test the media?  Did you test the iso?
[22:01] <JoeyJoeJo> I had to downgrade my kernel to 3.5 from 3.8. Now when I do apt-get remove linux-image-3.8.0.29-generic it tries to remove my 3.8.0.29 and install 3.8.0.33. How can I just remove 3.8.0-29?
[22:01] <mikeshollen_> usr13, disc came back no errors. also, why would my server not live boot from my desktop 8 disk if that disk works in another computer?
[22:01] <Beldar> Mitizaro,THis is athe deb from the google chrome website and either 32 bit or 64 bit per your OS?
[22:02] <Mitizaro> Beldar:  okay... btw thank you for everything!! and i really love the linux idea - like if i can get a little bit more (2-3) features EVEN if i had the money (like i'm kinda moral) - i would never be on windows
[22:02] <Mitizaro> 32bit
[22:02] <Mitizaro> i'm AMD 32bit
[22:02] <usr13> mikeshollen_: What is "desktoop 8 disk"?
[22:02] <mikeshollen_> usr13, hardy
[22:02] <Mitizaro> and yes - the google site @ Beldar
[22:02] <Beldar> Mitizaro, Cool and you have the 32 bit download from the goolge chrome website?
[22:02] <Mitizaro> yes
[22:02] <mikeshollen_> usr13, 5 version old ubuntu desktop
[22:03] <Beldar> Mitizaro, Cool, we all have our fingers crossed install.
[22:03] <Mitizaro> actually if i get new laptop - even if i have legal windows i will ALWAYS have some nice front-end-well-made-linux by hand
[22:03] <mikeshollen_> usr13, that was the last time I used linux, and I figured it was worth testing that disk because I have a very limited number of CDrs
[22:03] <usr13> mikeshollen_: So it won't boot a live Distro CD either?
[22:03] <tnfnsexe> Did someone highlight me?
[22:03] <Mitizaro> the only things i cant do here are (1 - flash) and 2 - League of Legends... cuz PC is old to handle wine @ Beldar
[22:03] <mikeshollen_> usr13, that's correct. the monitor doesn't say no input, it is just blank
[22:03] <Beldar> tnfnsexe, just me right now
[22:04] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, I have wine working on a machine worse than a 2.6 Ghz
[22:04] <Goldman60> usr13 mikeshollen could the video card be too new for a 2 1/2 year old version of Ubuntu?
[22:04] <Beldar> Mitizaro, Ah, not a gamer myself.
[22:04] <tnfnsexe> Beldar: well the client said there was a highlight
[22:04] <geekmasterflash> Mitizaro, I even gamed with it before I upgraded
[22:04] <usr13> mikeshollen_: No text at all?  Not even a blinking rectangle?
[22:04] <mikeshollen_> goldman60, possibly
[22:04] <Mitizaro> yeah but the PC is barely making the.. requirements
[22:04] <mikeshollen_> usr13, nothing, no text no images, blank
[22:04] <Mitizaro> i have dounbts i can play it at all (have done so on windows barely)
[22:04] <Beldar> tnfnsexe, Not in the last hour and 1/2 that I see.
[22:04] <Mitizaro> well
[22:05] <tnfnsexe> Beldar: I do not see it
[22:05] <Mitizaro> chrome doesnt respond @ Beldar
[22:05] <Goldman60> mikeshollen_ have you tried booting in low graphics mode?
[22:05] <mikeshollen_> how
[22:05] <tnfnsexe> Pidgin uses blue as a notice of highlight
[22:05] <usr13> mikeshollen_: That is very strange.
[22:05] <Beldar> Mitizaro, You installed with gdebi?
[22:05] <Mitizaro> yes
[22:05] <tnfnsexe> Beldar: it was blue
[22:05] <Mitizaro> Beldar:  Google hates me (its kinda mutual actually)
[22:05] <Beldar> Mitizaro, how are you starting it?
[22:05] <mikeshollen_> goldman80, how do i boot in low graphics mode?
[22:06] <Mitizaro> right click - open with GDEBI
[22:06] <tnfnsexe> Backdoors in the GPU again?
[22:06] <tnfnsexe> Is someone testing the color codex
[22:06] <usr13> Goldman60:  It is a server install.
[22:06] <tnfnsexe> IT WAS BLUE
[22:06] <Beldar> tnfnsexe, All I can say is I see your name nowhere in the last 1 /12 hours.
[22:06] <tnfnsexe> NO HIGHLIGHTS?
[22:06] <usr13> mikeshollen_: Can you give me the name of the iso image you downloaded?
[22:06] <Goldman60> mikeshollen_ usr13 ah then it is already in low graphics
[22:06] <Beldar> Mitizaro, have you installed gdebi?
[22:06] <Mitizaro> yes
[22:06] <usr13> mikeshollen_: Can you copy&paste it here for us?
[22:06] <Mitizaro> i did when u told me
[22:07] <Jordan_U> tnfnsexe: After your offtopic all caps message someone notified the ops, with a message that included your nick. So that explains the mistery. Now that that's dealt with, please try to stay on topic in this channel, and don't use all caps.
[22:07] <tnfnsexe> Beldar: this is why i need to go way back to basic color machines
[22:07] <tnfnsexe> Jordan_U: WHat timestamp I want to look for myself
[22:08] <Jordan_U> tnfnsexe: 18:53 by my client's time (current time being 14:08).
[22:08] <mikeshollen_> ubuntu-12.04.3-server-adm64.iso
[22:08] <Beldar> Mitizaro, So lets make sure you have the right deb download again from here. https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/ it will ask you if you want to install with gdebi click yes and keep the browser you using open while it install.
[22:08] <Mitizaro> @ Beldar & geek:  This is super strange - it slike Flash IS enabled (i installed restircted + command to get flash) -- but... still black screen.   Java maybe? SOmething else?
[22:09] <tnfnsexe> Jordan_U: I bet convieniently out of my buffer
[22:09] <Mitizaro> btw - this is the chrome error:
[22:09] <mikeshollen_> usr13, ubuntu-12.04.3-server-adm64.iso
[22:09] <k1l> !irclogs | tnfnsexe
[22:09] <mikeshollen_> usr13, *amd
[22:10] <Beldar> Mitizaro, You are running 12.04 precise correct?
[22:10] <Mitizaro> yeah
[22:10] <Mitizaro> the one i downloaded TODAY from the ubuntu site
[22:10] <Mitizaro> 12.04.03 or smth
[22:11] <Beldar> Mitizaro, I will reboot to that and see if I have any problems install chrome, I will be back 2 min
[22:11] <Mitizaro> btw - the terminal that i used to purge - sayts when attempted to be closed - there are unfinished taks and they would terminate if i close it..
[22:11] <usr13> !efi | mikeshollen_
[22:11] <Mitizaro> ok - i will reboot too!!
[22:12] <JoeyJoeJo> How can I tell if an ubuntu server with no GUI is set to automatically update?
[22:12] <hassen_> !GLUT
[22:15] <usr13> !nomodeset | mikeshollen_
[22:15] <TauNeutrino> hey guys
[22:16] <TauNeutrino> may I troll?
[22:16] <usr13> no
[22:16] <Beldar> TauNeutrino, you already are lol
[22:16] <JoeyJoeJo> I feel like that question in itself is trolling
[22:16] <TauNeutrino> haha
[22:16] <TauNeutrino> contradiction in itself
[22:16] <TauNeutrino> no wait
[22:17] <TauNeutrino> I wanted to ask why there is this huge "LOG IN HAS CHANGED" banner at the ubuntu forum for several decades now
[22:17] <Mitizaro> okayy..
[22:17] <k1l> TauNeutrino: how much warnings do you need?
[22:17] <usr13> !ot TauNeutrino
[22:17] <Beldar> TauNeutrino, a neutrino is supposed to pass through unnoticed, can you do that?
[22:17] <mikeshollen_> ubottu, thanks for your help. I am very very new to this. are you suggesting i may need to issue command line commands from GRUB?
[22:17] <usr13> !ot | TauNeutrino
[22:17] <hassen_> LMFAO at my oddly slow internet speed..
[22:17] <Zta> My desktop is broken.  I was messing with gsettings/ccsm/(unity|ubuntu)-tweak and now my launcher won't show and nearly al shortcut keys are gone.  Luckily pidgin starts upon login and I can still start a terminal.
[22:17] <TauNeutrino> ^^ nope
[22:17] <Zta> How do I reset my ... desktop?
[22:17] <TauNeutrino> ok I'll ask in ubuntu-offtopic
[22:18] <Beldar> Zta, unity? what release?
[22:18] <TauNeutrino> thx bye
[22:18] <Zta> Beldar: Ubuntu 13.10
[22:18] <Beldar> Zta, unity?
[22:18] <Zta> Beldar: How should I know?  The one that was shipped with Ubuntu 13.10.
[22:18] <Zta> Beldar: unity 7.1.2
[22:19] <Mitizaro> Beldar:  okay i'm here - no flash aint working, no chrome doesnt as well (after reboot)
[22:19] <Zta> Beldar: Compiz 0.9.10.2
[22:19] <Beldar> Zta, did it or does it have apanel on the left of the dektop?
[22:19] <Zta> Beldar: I haven't seen that panel since the past several releases.
[22:20] <Mitizaro> Beldar:  i'm all out of hope now... really... this is a... 5-8 months pursuit? i've been to 10 different distros, 4 types of puppy, 4 types of mint, 4 types of ubuntu... legacyos4.. vector linux...    nothing seems to work :/   - youtube does on some, but real flash - never.
[22:20] <Beldar> Mitizaro, I was rebooting to 12.04, I just installed google chrome with no problems,  not sure really what errors you have made or are making for you to have the same exsperience.
[22:20] <Zta> Beldar: What are you getting at?  It's a standard Ubuntu 13.10 that I've managed to mess up in my attempt to configure it though gsettings.
[22:20] <Beldar> Zta, My point is confirming the desktop and release.
[22:21] <k1l> Mitizaro: please tell that to adobe. they dropped linux support.
[22:21] <Mitizaro> i know
[22:21] <Mitizaro> i know
[22:21] <Beldar> Zta, which by the way is critical for a reset.  here is the unity in 13.10 reset info. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[22:22] <Zta> Beldar: I already said: unity 7.1.2  and  Compiz 0.9.10.2.  I didn't install some custom version.
[22:22] <Mitizaro> they dont even care adobe.. btw i will shoot em an email
[22:22] <lickalott> hello all.  wondering if someone could assist with a scripting issue.  I'm trying to use the day only from the date stdout. something like: set DAY = `date[1]`
[22:22] <Zta> Beldar: Ok, thanks.
[22:22] <Mitizaro> i truly hope STEAMOS would encorporate it..
[22:22] <usr13> Zta: Are you wanting to reset unity to default?
[22:22] <Jordan_U> k1l: They didn't drop linux support, they just dropped support for the non pepper API plugin in linux. They still support (or rather google does) flash for google chrome and chromium.
[22:22] <lickalott> hello all.  wondering if someone could assist with a scripting issue.  I'm trying to use the day only from the date stdout. something like: set DAY = `date[1]`  but it's not letting me set the variable
[22:23] <sda> hi all, i'm trying to install ubuntu server on my old laptop. Once I arrive at detect network, it stall because it's not able to load wifi firmware: ieee80211 phy0: brcmsmac fail to load firmware brcm/bcm43xx-0.fw. I don't need the wifi card to install. Any IDEA?
[22:23] <usr13> Zta: Was that you? Or someone else?
[22:23] <Rexter> Generally, I've found Brother network printers easy to install, but I'm getting my ass kicked with this Brother MFC-j430w on Ubuntu 13.10. Could someone help me trouble-shoot?
[22:23] <k1l> Jordan_U: afaik its not adobe that supports flash in chrome (pepper) its google itself
[22:23] <Mitizaro> wait... Chromium has flash??
[22:23] <Jordan_U> lickalott: Day as in day of the week? Day of the Month? Month and day of the month?
[22:23] <Mitizaro> i CAN run chromium... is there a way to use it??
[22:23] <e0ndrac0> can I get 12.04 LTS support here with ati video drivers?
[22:23] <Beldar> Zta, we somtimes miss some posts, that is why keeping them together is helpful, I asked two questions, it is not hard to read that and answer that in one post, rather than act snarky with a whats you point. And realize that things are missed
[22:23] <hassen_> ffs..going to restart the modem...the connectionis annoyingly slow.
[22:23] <Jordan_U> k1l: That's what I said.
[22:24] <lickalott> day of the month
[22:24] <hassen_> *connection is
[22:24] <Zta> usr13: It was me.  I think I just managed to do it with:  dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ &&   setsid unity
[22:24] <lickalott> so Tue for today
[22:24] <Rexter> Mitizaro, flash is not bakes into chromium like chrome.
[22:24] <usr13> Zta: Ok
[22:24] <e0ndrac0> looking for help with ati video drivers on x64 12.04
[22:25] <lickalott> i've scripted a similar program in csh in solaris but setting the variables seems to be a little different with ubuntu
[22:25] <Mitizaro> Rexter: what do u mean? that i cant install it, or that i have to manually do so?
[22:25] <lickalott> oh yeah...i'm using csh btw
[22:25] <Jordan_U> Mitizaro: Install Google Chrome and you will get Google Chrome + the pepper API based flash. From there, you can use the newest version of flash in either Google Chrome or in Chromium, but not in Firefox.
[22:25] <Zta> Beldar: yes, sorry.  I just assumed maybe you though I'd installed some tarball and broke my system that way.  Thanks for the help.  Your trick did it.
[22:25] <Rexter> Mitizaro; the same flash you install for Firefox will also fix up Chromium.
[22:26] <Mitizaro> well if u follow the discussions, @ guys -- i cant install chrome - thats what i've been trying with Beldar for so long
[22:26] <Rexter> mitizaro; I's just install the restricted extras.
[22:26] <deepfreez> is posibile to connect remote to ubuntu from windows?
[22:26] <e0ndrac0> regarding 12.04 LTS x64 AMD / Ati: I can't get gpu acellerated video packages to install properly, xbmc and vlc both crash frequently (core dumps) and wine doesn't run diablo 3 or wow properly, distorted graphics on menus and crashing
[22:26] <zerowaitstate> deepfreez, with vnc or ssh
[22:27] <Mitizaro> i did so already @rexter
[22:27] <Jordan_U> Mitizaro: Since there is a lot of scrollback to read, could you please summarise the problem you had installing Google Chrome?
[22:27] <deepfreez> zerowaitstate aaa vnc thanks
[22:27] <Mitizaro> Jordan of course!!
[22:27] <Rexter> Mitizaro; are you trying to install flash, or are you installing chromium?
[22:27] <Mitizaro> both
[22:28] <Mitizaro> chrome and flash
[22:28] <Mitizaro> i cant run it - nothing appears and i get error - i've deinstalled it, used GDEBI - same
[22:28] <Rexter> Mitizaro; Chrome, or Chromium?
[22:28] <Mitizaro> chrome
[22:28] <Mitizaro> i have chromium
[22:28] <Mitizaro> but chrome doesnt run
[22:29] <Jordan_U> Mitizaro: How did you try to install Google Chrome? How did you then try to run Google Chrome?
[22:29] <Mitizaro> well
[22:29] <Rexter> Mitizaro; so you want them both?
[22:29] <Mitizaro> 1st time - termnal  sudo -i path
[22:29] <Mitizaro> 2nd time - channel - un and then install
[22:29] <Mitizaro> 3rd time - purge then gdebi
[22:29] <Mitizaro> no
[22:29] <FloodBot1> Mitizaro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:30] <krabas> chrome sucks
[22:30] <krabas> /quit
[22:30] <krabas> QUIT
[22:30] <Mitizaro> i just want to play flash somehow.. ;(
[22:30] <FloodBot1> krabas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:30] <Rexter> Mitizaro; do you have Firefox?
[22:31] <Jordan_U> Mitizaro: I asked you two questions. You only answered one of them.
[22:31] <Mitizaro> yes
[22:31] <Mitizaro> i want either - not both
[22:31] <Mitizaro> i just want to use flash somehow - so either chrome, or flash for firefox
[22:31] <OerHeks> Mitizaro, maybe it is a videodriver issue
[22:31] <Rexter> Mitizaro; does flash work in Firefox?
[22:31] <Mitizaro> no
[22:32] <krabas> forget flash, it's dead
[22:32] <Rexter> Mitizaro, in Firefox, what does it do?
[22:32] <geekmasterflash> krabas, If only.
[22:33] <Mitizaro> well
[22:33] <e0ndrac0> anyone using irssi client know how to filter the -!- connect / dc messages off the main window? NO search yet in documentation (not working)
[22:33] <Mitizaro> when i hit the flash game
[22:33] <Mitizaro> in the VERY game - i get black screen
[22:33] <Mitizaro> geekmasterflash reported succesfully opening it
[22:34] <usr13> My flashplayer works.
[22:35] <Mitizaro> oh and youtube doesnt work as well
[22:35] <Mitizaro> gray screen
[22:35] <Mitizaro> no bulding block (like the flash logo) - nothing
[22:35] <hassen> awwww...now running my favorite software (Celestia) in my new ubuntu OS :D
[22:36] <Rexter> Mitizaro; system specs?
[22:36] <Mitizaro> well
[22:36] <Mitizaro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6516883/
[22:36] <Mitizaro> lol those arent the full ones?
[22:36] <e0ndrac0> hey all I'm new to this irc, how do I and who do I ask for help?
onehalf or <Alt>½ or <Alt>Above_Tab seems to be mapped to some window switching in Ubuntu by default.  What is it doing?  And how do I disable it?  I need <Alt>onehalf mapped to someting else.
[22:37] <lickalott> Jordan_U you got anything on the date thing?
[22:37] <Mitizaro> AMD Cpu 2,4 GHZ - Overclocked WITHOUT real voltages added - just the MGHZ - to 2,6-2,8 as in terms of power..
[22:37] <Mitizaro> 1,3GB RAM DDR2
[22:37] <Mitizaro> Nvidia GeForce FX5900ZT
[22:37] <Mitizaro> 80gb hdd
[22:37] <Mitizaro> 11 year old PC
[22:37] <FloodBot1> Mitizaro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:38] <OerHeks> single core AMD?
[22:38] <Rexter> Mitizaro; you're screwed. I had the same issue on several old machined. never resolved.
[22:38] <usr13> e0ndrac0: You just state your issue.  (You ask the channel in general.)
[22:38] <lickalott> is there a perl chan on freenode that isn't locked?
[22:39] <Mitizaro> yes single
[22:39] <Rexter> Mitizaro; you'll find that if you run an ols live CD of like Linux Mint, it has flash player built in. It will workk until you update it.
[22:39] <OerHeks> lickalott, just register with #freenode, and you'll get in
[22:39] <Mitizaro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6516898/
[22:39] <lickalott> heh....  thanks OerHeks.  I reg'd and never attempted to rejoin
[22:39] <Mitizaro> actually - yes.. for YOUTUBE the older flash - 10-smth works
[22:40] <Rexter> Mitizaro; the current, and last version of flash for Linux doesn't work with a lot of old hardware.
[22:40] <Mitizaro> BUT for newer flash games - no
[22:40] <usr13> lickalott: /join #perl
[22:40] <e0ndrac0> I've tried the provided drivers, both offered after install, and from the website building the 13.4 packages.  Everything seems to install fine, I've read I needed ia32 libs and installed those, I run vlc or xbmc from console and it says it's running va-api but both keep crashing.  Another problem is diablo 3 and wow under wine both crashing or not rendering right
[22:40] <lickalott> got it now.  Thanks!
[22:41] <Mitizaro> yeah i've heard so
[22:41] <Mitizaro> so... what do i do - cry?   thats why i wanted ubuntu 12.04 - Chrome.
[22:41] <Rexter> Mitizaro, You can't just not update, unless you don't update your browser. new browsers will block old flash.
[22:42] <usr13> mikeshollen_: Are you still here?
[22:42] <e0ndrac0> I really don't know what to do I kind of need some help installing this right.  I'm following guides to the letter but missing something
[22:42] <e0ndrac0> I'll change to 13.10 if it will fix the problem
[22:42] <Mitizaro> no i meant
[22:42] <Mitizaro> 12.04 of linux
[22:42] <Mitizaro> and the latest chrome
[22:42] <e0ndrac0> I read a lot that x64 is having issues with ati video drivers latley
[22:42] <e0ndrac0> lately* always has it seems
[22:42] <Mitizaro> but i cant install chrome here... so i'm wtf
[22:43] <e0ndrac0> hence xvba being phased out?
[22:43] <Rexter> Mitizaro; flash is proprietary, proprietary sux. simple as that. Luckily flash is going away.
[22:43] <Beldar> Mitizaro, Can you run sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade copy and paste all that to a terminal, and if offered upgrades don;t run it but keep the terminal open and pastebin all the info.
[22:43] <deepfreez> how to install GNOME Classic desktop with all?
[22:43] <Beldar> deepfreez, THe fallback, or gnome 2
[22:43] <OerHeks> !nounity
[22:44] <e0ndrac0> I just want a stable x64 distro with my gpu accelleration working properly, that's all I want.  I'll pay for it!! lol
[22:44] <Zta> I'm running this, but still pressing Alt+F2 opens the Run a command window.  What's going on?  gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-to-workspace-2 "['<Alt>F2']"
[22:44] <Mitizaro> wel
[22:44] <Rexter> Mitizaro; You don't need flash for youtube.
[22:44] <Mitizaro> i already UPDATED everything
[22:44] <e0ndrac0> unity keeps screwing up also!!! windows get non responsive and crash all the time
[22:45] <deepfreez> Beldar i dont have desktop yet ! and i want to install gone with fallback
[22:45] <Beldar> Mitizaro, I want to see if you have broken packages or anything amiss.
[22:45] <Mitizaro> ok
[22:45] <Mitizaro> btw
[22:45] <e0ndrac0> I had this same issue with fedora so I switched
[22:45] <Mitizaro> it turns out
[22:45] <Mitizaro> i have 4 video drivers at the same time
[22:45] <Mitizaro> geek found it
[22:45] <FloodBot1> Mitizaro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:45] <Beldar> deepfreez, cool check the bouts nounity info.
[22:45] <Beldar> bots*
[22:45] <deepfreez> sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[22:45] <Mitizaro> so i gonna remove restricted goods...    and all the 4 drivers with purge - then just add one.
[22:46] <Beldar> mmmmm 4 graphic drivers "Homer Simpson"
[22:46] <Beldar> ;)
[22:47] <Rexter> Mitizaro; I spent countless hours on several machines dealing with this issue. I finally resigned myself to the fact that I just could't have flash on this particular machine.
[22:47] <Mitizaro> just to mention -- i HAVENT put any BESIDE   restricted goods package -- and nvidia-current from software channel
[22:47] <lickalott> so....date?
[22:47] <Mitizaro> this install is as old as +10min from my chat entry here today! :D
[22:47] <Beldar> Mitizaro, when you installed 12.04 did you have a rather large update?
[22:48] <geekmasterflash> Beldar, Yeah, he's got nvidia-325, nvidia-173, nvidia-173-updates, and noveau all reporting as active when he did lspci -k
[22:48] <Rexter> Mitizaro, tried several different graphic cards with different drivers. It did't seem to make any difference.
[22:48] <Mitizaro> did the update
[22:48] <Beldar> geekmasterflash, good job figuring that out, I was wondering if the repos were even synced.
[22:48] <Mitizaro> yes i had
[22:48] <Mitizaro> large update
[22:48] <nikolaaa1> Hi.
[22:49] <nikolaaa1> I need some help.
[22:49] <Rory> !details | nikolaaa1
[22:49] <Mitizaro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6516934/
[22:49] <mmazing> anyone in here have any experience setting up SphinxClient with php?
[22:49] <nikolaaa1> I'm running ubuntu version 10.04, and im having problems shutdown, it just shows on the screen with saying Ubuntu and nothing else.
[22:50] <nikolaaa1> I Know 10.04 is not supported, but my laptop is old 10 years, and it doesnt support unity.
[22:50] <nikolaaa1> Help please.
[22:50] <MonkeyDust> nikolaaa1: then use something else, xfce, lxde...
[22:50] <nikolaaa1> Monkey, i tried sudo halt in terminal, but nothing.
[22:51] <nikolaaa1> It's quite annoying shutting it on button everytime.
[22:51] <Rory> nikolaaa1: What's the model of your laptop?
[22:51] <nikolaaa1> IBM Thinkpad T20
[22:51] <nikolaaa1> As i said, old laptop.
[22:51] <renebarbosa> nikolaaa1, you can try lubuntu or xubuntu
[22:51] <Rexter> i could use some help installing a Brother printer.
[22:51] <Mitizaro> gonna give the second update pastie soon
[22:51] <Rory> nikolaaa1: Can you pastebin the output of the command: lsmod
[22:51] <renebarbosa> they usually works fine on old machines
[22:51] <Rory> !paste | nikolaaa1
[22:52] <nikolaaa1> Sure, let me just execute it.
[22:52] <Mitizaro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6516952/ - second one @ Beldar
[22:52] <usr13> !efi
[22:53] <e0ndrac0> so I need some help troubleshooting seriously bad unity lag, opening closing windows, they're greying out and I have to force quit them to get a response, happens with transmission, file browsing, terminal; since installing current ati drivers
[22:53] <Rory> e0ndrac0: did it happen before you installed the drivers?
[22:53] <e0ndrac0> no
[22:53] <Rory> e0ndrac0: Uninstall the drivers
[22:53] <Rexter> gutenprint install freezes up while installing a network printer.
[22:54] <e0ndrac0> I need the drivers for gpu accelleration. Uninstalling them isn't an option and it happens every install
[22:54] <Mitizaro> Beldar: what do u think?
[22:54] <Beldar> Mitizaro, You left out all of the update, no errors there?
[22:54] <Rory> OK e0ndrac0 what graphics card do you have (you can check the exact one if you tell me the output of the command: lspci | grep VGA )
[22:54] <e0ndrac0> ati radeon hd6770
[22:55] <Beldar> Mitizaro, the upgrade you showed all and looks good, the update after the last line you have will show errors if there are any.
[22:55] <e0ndrac0> 04:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Juniper XT [Radeon HD 6770]
[22:55] <Mitizaro> well there is no more lines
[22:55] <Mitizaro> i mean i get writing room afterwards
[22:55] <akcin> good evening, all... I have an issue with a wireless card on an Asus EEEPC... the 1000ha in particular.
[22:56] <akcin> I'm confused whether it's a software problem, or if the hardware blew up on me.
[22:56] <akcin> Any ideas how I might be able to figure that out?
[22:59] <e0ndrac0> this problem with unity lag seems to be progressive, doesn't happen right after the install but usually a few days later after usage
[23:00] <Rexter> Beldar; thanks for your help with my screen resolution issue last night. The monitor I was using was only temporary. Ultimately, I moved it to an Acer 16X9 monitor, and it worked perfectly. It just didn't like that Sumsung monitor. I sure learned a lot.
[23:00] <akcin> can you unstinall Unity?
[23:00] <e0ndrac0> I would love to
[23:00] <e0ndrac0> if it will fix it
[23:00] <Beldar> Rexter, I wondered if a different monitor might be the answer, congrats.
[23:00] <e0ndrac0> is there another ui I can switch to?
[23:01] <akcin> I don't know... that's why I'm asking. :P
[23:01] <e0ndrac0> I heard something about compiz being the problem and getting removed
[23:01] <e0ndrac0> in 13.10
[23:01] <akcin> My netbook hates Unity though, that's for sure.
[23:01] <Beldar> akcin, Not really, nor is it needed, whats the end goal here?
[23:01] <Rexter> Beldar; yea, and 4x3 1600X1200 monitor is quite antiquated.
[23:01] <e0ndrac0> can anyone using 13.10 confirm for me compiz was removed from it :D
[23:02] <akcin> Beldar Frankly, I just am confused why the computer is running so slowly. And it feels like it's the UI that's slowing it down.
[23:02] <Beldar> e0ndrac0, compiz woudl be in the ubuntu desktop
[23:02] <Beldar> akcin, what is the cpu and gpu
[23:02] <Rexter> Beldar; i now know how to make that monitor work if i wanted to.
[23:03] <akcin> beldar, It's a EEEPC... so... bad and terrible?
[23:03] <e0ndrac0> Beldar my problem I think is driver related, everything seems to install right but doesn't and over time my ui lags / crashes a lot, wine won't work properly and va-api / xvba start to slowdown
[23:04] <brontosaurusrex> e0ndrac0, wasn't there a gnome-shell respin?
[23:05] <akcin> I'm just wondering if perhaps I should try a fresh install... and see what happens. It's just a pain when I don't have a cd drive.
[23:05] <gordonjcp> akcin: what's the CD drive for?
[23:05] <akcin> Installing from a cd?
[23:05] <Beldar> e0ndrac0, I have the feeling you are coming to conclusions then asking questions related to those rather than just giving the details that might support them or find an answer.
[23:05] <gordonjcp> akcin: oh
[23:06] <gordonjcp> akcin: do people still do that?
[23:06] <akcin> gordonjcp I don't know... how do you do it?
[23:06] <e0ndrac0> no one is asking me for details, I don't know what else to give besides my distro, video card model, and which driver I'm using
[23:06] <gordonjcp> akcin: I netboot and install off the network, or if I'm not at home or in the workshop I boot off a USB stick
[23:06] <gordonjcp> akcin: I don't think I've owned a computer with a CD drive for well over a decade
[23:07] <gordonjcp> akcin: wouldn't even know where to buy CDs, if indeed they are still made
[23:07] <akcin> gordonjcp: Right... I expect to do it from a USB stick... but that said... I am not sure that I still have a thumb drive big enough.
[23:07] <akcin> gordonjcp What have you been using for computers?
[23:07] <Zta> Beldar: Hi, it's me again.  Now I've screwed up my desktop again.  And this time there's gnome-terminal open.  No launcher either.  Nor a top bar.  The dconf reset -f option doesn't work from the terminal at Alt+Ctrl+F1.  What to do?
[23:07] <deepfreez> gnome?
[23:08] <esde> I just had a few power events this weekend and found myself in the same situation as OP in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2163987 but there are no replies. Any suggestions on how to achieve the same goal in that thread?
[23:08] <mmazing> akcin: clearly gordonjcp uses an advanced computer from the future that shields you from knowing about ancient things like cd drivce
[23:08] <mmazing> drives*
[23:10] <Guest52833> S0ulGod <chris123>
[23:10] <Guest52833> S0ulGod <chris123>
[23:11] <Zta> Why did Linux suddenly get so weird and complicated?  I cannot reset my desktop configuration without my desktop environment fully running (dconf cannot reset compiz settings tree).  It used to be a simple matter of rm -f ~/.fluxboxrc
[23:12] <gordonjcp> Zta: then install fluxbox
[23:12] <Zta> Gor
[23:12] <Zta> gordonjcp: nice.
[23:12] <gordonjcp> Zta: that's the great thing, you've got that choice
[23:13] <Zooklubba> So. Ubuntu server 12.04 lts. I decided to reboot it today, turns out something has messed something up. I get connection refused. I have no idea why this happened. I haven't touched the sshd config file for ages. I did have a ton of apt-get update/upgrade that I ran the other week
[23:13] <ablyss> anyone use usb 3.0 here with no issues?
[23:13] <Zooklubba> So now Im in rescue mode. Not sure what to look for in order to get the ssh back working
[23:13] <Zta> gordonjcp: I'd prefer to somehow run Unity but without compiz.  The two seem to conflict in weird ways.  Is it possible?
[23:14] <gordonjcp> Zta: you could try 2d fallback
[23:14] <gordonjcp> Zooklubba: have you got console access to the machine, either physically or via some other means?  Xen-shell, or whatever?
[23:14] <Zooklubba> console via networked booted os
[23:14] <deepfreez> !ubuntu-desktop
[23:14] <Zooklubba> So yes gordonjcp
[23:15] <Zta> gordonjcp: Maybe I should give it a try.  The default 13.10 desktop environment is too fragile.  It used to be fine in 13.04, and near solid in 12.10.  I don't know what's going on.
[23:15] <akcin> So I'm guessing no one has a sure fire way to check to see if the wireless card is still working or not, eh?
[23:15] <gordonjcp> Zooklubba: what exactly do you mean by "console via networked booted os", do you mean netbooting some recovery image?
[23:16] <Zooklubba> netbooting some kind of limited OS. In which I have mounted my disk
[23:16] <gordonjcp> akcin: "working" in what sense?
[23:16] <gordonjcp> Zooklubba: okay
[23:16] <akcin> gordonjcp Like... not a hardware failure...
[23:16] <Zooklubba> Linux rescue 3.10.18 atm
[23:16] <gordonjcp> akcin: well, can you see it with ifconfig?
[23:16] <akcin> gordonjcp I don't know..
[23:17] <v_> Hi, can anyone help me with dual boot win8 and ubuntu? I bought a lenovo laptop g505s with win8 and I made a partition for ubuntu. From the grub menu I couldnt enter win8, so I used boot repair, then disable secure boot and from then I cant enter neither ubuntu neither win8..
[23:17] <v_> I m in from live usb...
[23:17] <gordonjcp> Zooklubba: does anything else seem to start up when you boot normally?
[23:17] <xangua>  It used to be a simple matter of rm -f ~/.fluxboxrc - you still can 'reset' compiz config the same way Zta
[23:17] <akcin> gordonjcp All I see from ifconfig is the ethernet connecter and a local loopback
[23:17] <Zta> gordonjcp: Will unity-2d bring a desktop similar to the default, but without hardware accelleration?  I'm not interested in any legacy Gnomeish desktop with panels and what not...
[23:17] <gordonjcp> akcin: anything in dmesg?
[23:17] <Zta> xangua: How, please?
[23:18] <Zooklubba> gordonjcp: nginx starts and seem to be starting normally yes. But afaik not mysql server
[23:18] <akcin> gordonjcp Ack... that's long... what am I looking for there?
[23:18] <xangua> rm -rf ~/.config/compiz-1/compizconfig/*  http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html  Zta
[23:18] <Mitizaro> Beldar:  do u know how i can remove  nvidiafb?
[23:18] <deepfreez> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop ubuntu-gnome-default-settings
[23:18] <deepfreez> not work
[23:18] <Mitizaro> we're struggling with geekmaster...   i've had puppy linuxes before, but i just ran complete nuke on HDD 80GB to install Ubuntu 12.04
[23:19] <xangua> !doesntwork | deepfreez
[23:19] <Zta> xangua: Of course, there it was.  I was looking in ~/.local.  Thanks.
[23:19] <deepfreez> how i install gnome 2 ?
[23:19] <Beldar> Mitizaro, Not really I have never had nvidia.
[23:20] <deepfreez> i have installed ubuntu server
[23:20] <xangua> deepfreez: gnome2 is dead
[23:20] <Rexter> i have a brother printer install that's kicking my ass. Would someone be willing to help me out?
[23:21] <v_> Oh pls smn... I want to sleep and I cant handle my "broken" lap.. :) Any ideas?
[23:21] <deepfreez> xangua ah but how i installl gnome 3?
[23:21] <deepfreez> becouse i want classic gnome
[23:22] <k1l> deepfreez: install gnome-shell for gnome3
[23:22] <deepfreez> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-dekstop
[23:22] <deepfreez> ?
[23:23] <k1l> deepfreez: did you read what i wrote you?
[23:23] <deepfreez> yes
[23:23] <xangua> deepfreez: it's ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[23:23] <k1l> where did i mention ubuntu-desktop?
 deepfreez: install gnome-shell for gnome3
[23:23] <deepfreez> E: Unable to locate package ubuntu-gnome-deskto
[23:23] <mxander> I've just installed 12.04LTS on my laptop, but I can't ssh to my webserver's IP. "port 22: No route to host"... can someone assist me with this?
[23:23] <deepfreez> i install gnome-shell
[23:23] <deepfreez> but not start when i reboot the linux
[23:24] <Zooklubba> gordonjcp: Any ideas on where to look for errors?
[23:24] <dragonfly> mxander: can you ping your webserver?
[23:24] <k1l> deepfreez: you need lightdm or gdm, too if its a server install
[23:24] <xangua> !nounity | deepfreez you might be refering to 'gnome-panel'
[23:24] <Jordan_U> lickalott: day="$(date +%a)"
[23:25] <deepfreez> thanks
[23:25] <deepfreez> gnome-panel is already the newest version.
[23:25] <mxander> I can't even ping my local gateway or the webserver either..?
[23:26] <lickalott> does the +%a equate to the first section in the output of date?  i.e. +%b would be the 3 character month
[23:26] <aeaglez> Does anyone know how to partition their drive after ubuntu is installed?
[23:27] <lickalott> Jordan_U says "date: undefined variable"
[23:27] <Jordan_U> lickalott: Yes, though the better way to see what %a represents is to run "man date".
[23:27] <s0uLGod> aeaglez
[23:27] <aeaglez> Yes?
[23:28] <Jordan_U> lickalott: What is the output of "date +%a"?
[23:28] <dragonfly> mxander: what is the output of ifconfig
[23:28] <s0uLGod> I can help you mate
[23:28] <aeaglez> Aye where do i start?
[23:28] <akcin> gordonjcp: IS there something in particular that I'm looking for in dmesg?
[23:28] <lickalott> Jordan_U date +%a: Command not found.
[23:28] <esde> ive got two firefox windows open but i can only restore one from the unity sidebar http://storage7.static.itmages.com/i/13/1204/h_1386113352_1415015_1cc29c7010.png
[23:28] <Jordan_U> lickalott: What is the exact command you typed in?
[23:29] <asued00> hello guys
[23:29] <esde> i can normally click the icon and just toggle between windows
[23:29] <lickalott> "date +%a"
[23:29] <Jordan_U> lickalott: Don't include the quotes.
[23:29] <lickalott> and date +%a
[23:29] <lickalott> nvm
[23:29] <lickalott> left the end quotes
[23:30] <xangua> esde: tried to use alt+tab ¿ are you sure the other window is not in another virtual desktop¿
[23:30] <mxander> dragonfly - I'll just have to log back in from the laptop to copy & paste that... just a minute
[23:30] <asued00> I am kind of new in Linux, im using ubuntu and would like to change theme. Getting a newer theme will slow down the performance of the computer
[23:30] <asued00> ?
[23:30] <esde> yeah im sure it's not, alt tab only shows one open firefox window, with an icon indicating multiple windows
[23:30] <Guest58601> Good Night, I have some trouble with my ubuntu studio after upgrade. Can I ask here, on this channel?
[23:30] <xangua> asued00: why would it¿ no
[23:31] <Jordan_U> lickalott: You still haven't given the output of "date +%a" without quotes. Does that mean that everything is working for you now?
[23:31] <lickalott> sorry.. yeah it produced Tue
[23:31] <lickalott> thanks!!
[23:31] <wolfspy> is a 4 core 2.20 ghz proccesser good?
[23:31] <Jordan_U> Guest58601: Yes, though #ubuntu-studio may know more about Studio specific apps and problems.
[23:32] <Jordan_U> lickalott: You're welcome.
[23:32] <Guest58601> I am on #ubuntustudio but nobody give me feedback
[23:32] <bazhang> #ubuntustudio is the channel
[23:32] <k1l> wolfspy: good is based on the persons view. but that is not a ubuntu support issue. better ask in ##hardware for comparison
[23:32] <asued00> @xangua,  for example the original theme that brings ubuntu works incredible fast, so if i decided to change to a new then the speed should be the same
[23:32] <asued00> ?
[23:32] <Guest58601> can someone join #ubuntustudio and help me there? I don't want to spam here
[23:33] <wolfspy> k1l, thanks, I was looking for a channel like that :)
[23:33] <k1l> Guest58601: you can ask here if its not ubuntustudio specific since its an official port
[23:33] <Guest58601> ok.
[23:34] <Guest58601> I upgrade my ubuntu studio and now I lose some permissions. I can't open any usb drive and I can't open some folders
[23:34] <RocketPenguin> For some odd reason, ubuntu default desktop environment doesn't seem to be working correctly, as well as unity.anyone know how to fix these issues?
[23:34] <Guest58601> I upgrade to ubuntu 13.10
[23:35] <Guest58601> I think something happened with my permission file. But I don't know how to restore it
[23:36] <asued00> for example the original theme that brings ubuntu works incredible fast, so if i decided to change to a new then the speed should be the same
[23:37] <mxander> dragonfly - the output of ifconfig: mike@mike-ThinkPad-X220-Tablet:/$ ifconfig eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr f0:de:f1:d1:bd:97             UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000            RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)           Interrupt:20 Memory:f2500
[23:37] <dragonfly> mxander: use pastebin.com
[23:38] <dragonfly> mxander: when you need to copy and paste....however, it looks like you do not have a network connection on eth0
[23:38] <dragonfly> your network cable is plugged in?
[23:38] <Zooklubba> So. After a reboot on my server I've found out that sshd was never started. I dont have physical access to it. But I know that nginx started after the reboot. So not sure what the heck happened
[23:38] <mxander> wireless
[23:38] <Zooklubba> I have access through a linux rescue os. So the disk of the server is mounted.
[23:39] <mxander> I just have to get a pastebin.com account... one minute
[23:39] <lickalott> Jordan_U got it!  set day=`date +%a`
[23:39] <dragonfly> no need to sign up for an account
[23:39] <lickalott> friggin back tick
[23:40] <dragonfly> mxander: you pasted the output of the wired connection....try doing ifconfig without specifying an interface
[23:43] <deepfreez> hi, how i see if i have driver of video installed?
[23:43] <mxander> dragonfly - http://pastebin.com/u/mxander
[23:43] <Zooklubba> If I have mounted the disk through another computer, when Im going to restart the main server. How can I make sure sshd is started? I can do all kinds of file stuff, but no call services et al
[23:43] <Mitizaro> for some reason... the Alien is still alive...   ***
[23:45] <dragonfly> mxander: ok, so it looks like you have a network connection....you can ping your router?
[23:46] <Sian> I don't know if this goes here. But I am looking for a music player that supports .opus files
[23:47] <Random832> Sian: what is an opus file
[23:47] <Sian> Random832, it's a music file
[23:48] <mxander> I am using the public university wireless.. how do I ping their wireless?
[23:48] <deepfreez> hi, i have this video 40:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV516 XT Radeon X1600 Series (Primary) , how i install video driver on ubuntu 12?
[23:48] <Random832> Sian: what desktop environment are you on
[23:48] <Sian> Random832, unity
[23:48] <Random832> is rhythmbox not able to play it?
[23:49] <Random832> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opus_(audio_codec)#Support says gstreamer supports it and i think that's the lib rhythmbox uses
[23:49] <dragonfly> mxander: try ping 10.132.128.1
[23:49] <Sian> Random832, yeah, but rythmbox is heavy in resources, honestly speaking I dislike it
[23:50] <RocketPenguin> My desktop is having graphic issues. anyone know much about it? Any window i have open leaves a trail, my desktop background is screwed up, and everything is working in a strange fashion
[23:50] <Random832> Sian: i don't know, try one of the other players listed there
[23:50] <Random832> is there a command line player that comes with the libs?
[23:51] <mxander> dragonfly: 11 packets transmitted, 0 received, +9 errors, 100% packet loss, time 10024ms
[23:51] <RocketPenguin> My desktop looks like this: http://imgur.com/5vubceE Anyone know how to solve my issue?
[23:51] <dragonfly> ok, so either you're not actually getting a connection or that's not the address of the router/gateway
[23:52] <Xcytre> Zooklubba - how about: netstat -l | grep ssh
[23:52] <s0uLGod> mxander see your screen resolution mate
[23:52] <Zooklubba> Xcytre: the server isn't running. I have only mounted the disk since it's not booting properly
[23:52] <Zooklubba> No physical access
[23:52] <Sian> Random832, I'm looking for a music player witha gui. I will have to try deadbeef(though las time I used it it had a lot of problems)
[23:52] <Zooklubba> Out on a limb now, deleted the latest init.d update I did. Hope that's the root cause
[23:53] <mxander> dragonfly: default route is 10.135.128.1
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[23:54] <vuohi15v> fgh fgh fghg feces!!!! feces!!!! feces!!!! feces!!!! feces!!!! feces!!!! feces!!!! feces!!!! feces!!!! feces!!!! feces!!!! feces!!!! feces!!!! feces!!!! feces!!!! feces!!!! feces!!!! feces!!!! feces!!!! feces!!!! feces!!!! feces!!!!
[23:54] <FloodBot1> vuohi15v: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:54] <articsun> ROFL
[23:54] <articsun> :P
[23:54] <dragonfly> mxander: ok, ping that address then
[23:54] <vuohi15v> SIEG HEIL
[23:54] <vuohi15v> BURN ALL JEWS IN OVEN
[23:54] <FloodBot1> vuohi15v: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:54] <vuohi15v> death to infidels
[23:55] <xangua> !ops | vuohi15v
[23:55] <articsun> ~ops
[23:55] <articsun> !ops
[23:55] <vuohi15v> BURN ALL JEWS IN OVEN!
[23:55] <vuohi15v> BURN ALL JEWS IN GAS OVEN!
[23:55] <mxander> dragonfly: default route no good either but...
[23:56] <mxander> dragonfly: --- 10.135.130.7 ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 8997ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.033/0.060/0.097/0.024 ms
[23:56] <RocketPenguin> My desktop is having graphic issues. anyone know much about it? Any window i have open leaves a trail, my desktop background is screwed up, and everything is working in a strange fashion
[23:56] <RocketPenguin> My desktop looks like this: http://imgur.com/5vubceE Anyone know how to solve my issue?
[23:57] <mxander> dragonfly: --- 10.135.130.7 is my IP address on the network?
[23:57] <dragonfly> mxander: that's because you're pinging yourself :)
[23:57] <dragonfly> yep
[23:57] <dragonfly> are you using dhcp or did you set that address manually?
[23:58] <RocketPenguin> So, no one knows anything about my desktop graphics delema?
[23:58] <mxander> manully... username and password -- WPA/WPA2, EAP-PEAP, MSCHAPV2
[23:58] <wilornel> Ubuntu's not going to sleep when I close the lid. It's starting to get annoying. My hardware is pretty new(indeed, the Toshiba laptop was installed with Windows 8). Could that issue be related with the fact that I'm booting in Legacy/CMS mode, instead of EFI mode?
[23:59] <wilornel> Or could it possibly be related to the fact that I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[23:59] <Random832> wilornel: are you able to sleep otherwise
[23:59] <wilornel> Random832: ...
[23:59] <wilornel> What do you mean?
[23:59] <Random832> when you pick suspend from the menu