[00:00] <Unit193> Well, more correctly flash doesn't support the browsers, though you can either extract pepperflash from chrome and use it in chromium, or use chrome.
[00:00] <Unit193> Can't use a nicer browser like xombrero or firefox. ;)
[00:01] <Unit193> I'd recommend a better service if you can, but guessing you'll have to use one of the solutions already stated.
[00:02] <xubunet> OK, I don;t know what that last bit means. Is it something I could probably look up online and be able to do while following instructions? Oh like I said above I *am* using firefox. I just tried chrome when firefox failed at SOundcloud.
[00:02] <xubunet> I'll try xombrero, thanks!
[00:02] <xubunet> Cheers unit - fingers crossed! Bye now.
[00:03] <Unit193> xubunet: Xombrero won't work.
[00:03] <xubunet> hmmm ok :(
[00:04] <Unit193> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/how-to-make-chromium-use-flash-player.html not quite how I would do it, but works.
[00:55] <pretzell> hi people, i have a question regarding installing xubuntu, when i try to do so i always get an error with the GRUB booter, it says it cant install package grub-efi-amd64-signed
[00:56] <pretzell> anyone knows how i can fix this?
[00:57] <holstein> !uefi
[00:57] <holstein> that might help..
[00:57] <pretzell> thanks a lot
[01:07] <xubuntu932> Remember windows logo key on the keyboard?  How can I program it in Xubuntu to un-hide the Panel-1 (the bottom panel that autohides) ? Don't reply all at once please (LOL).
[01:07] <holstein> xubuntu932: not sure. but you can sometimes see that called the "super key"
[01:08] <holstein> xubuntu932: this should get you heading in the right way http://askubuntu.com/questions/244466/can-i-unhide-the-panel-in-xfce-4-10-using-a-key-press-rather-than-using-mouse-cu
[01:08] <xubuntu932> Yea . . called <super> key . . . Hmmmm
[01:08] <xubuntu932> OK  Thanks again . . .Bye!
[01:12] <xubuntu661> Hey . . . Its me again on the unhide Panel-1 using <super> key.  I was so excited, I forgot to click you link into another tab in this browser Im using.  Display again please ? ? ?
[01:12] <holstein> xubuntu661: you mean this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/244466/can-i-unhide-the-panel-in-xfce-4-10-using-a-key-press-rather-than-using-mouse-cu
[01:14] <xubuntu661> Yes  Thanks ... Think I'll keep this comm open for a few more minutes, should I have further questions.  Are you the Lenux support paid to help world-wide?  Or a contributor/programmer?  Just want to know how long you will be logged in here . ..
[01:15] <holstein> xubuntu661: we are just volunteers.. you can ask anytime
[01:15] <well_laid_lawn> most linux irc channels just have end users helping out
[01:16] <xubuntu661> Got ya.  You helped me before.  I remember the name <holstein>.  Someday, I want to contribute in a major way. I'll go read your link for a while.
[02:11] <xubuntu661> YES on the
[02:11] <xubuntu661> Super key
[02:11] <xubuntu661> Usd the toggle option as follows . . ..xfconf-query -c xfce4-panel -p /panels/panel-1/autohide -T
[02:13] <xubuntu661> And super-L is just one press, so I only have use one finger.  I do wish it would behave like window logo key did, and not stay unhidden.  Thanks , @holstein
[02:14] <holstein> xubuntu661: it *is* the window logo key.. you want it to behave like some other operating system? in what way?
[03:55] <NCS_One> hi
[03:55] <NCS_One> what does it mean "%F" on "vim -f %F"?
[07:30] <Name141> Does 12.04 have the acceloration for the 4670 ?
[08:13] <xubun2> i am using xubuntu 13.10. i saw a system update to linux kernel 3.11.0-14 which i downloaded and installed. but after i restarted the computer, i find that all the window decorations are gone, the title bars are gone. i have tried to restart the computer with kernel 3.11.0-13, reinstalling the latest linux images and even xfce4. anyone know what i can try?
[08:23] <Sysi> xubun2: open settings -> session and startup, and remove saved sessions, then select log out from menu and uncheck checkbox for saving session
[08:24] <Sysi> should work on next login
[08:31] <xubun2> Sysi, thanks trying it now
[08:42] <xubun2> Sysi, thanks! that worked
[09:22] <xubuntu477> Hey guys, I need help installing Xubuntu on my machine that's already running Windows on another partition.
[09:35] <well_laid_lawn> !dualboot
[12:27] <zierka> hi! I used this tutorial (https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html) to enable hibernation on my xubuntu, but even after restart, the hibernate menu option is still greyed out. Hibernation works fine with pm-hibernate. Can you help me enabling it?
[12:28] <ObrienDave> zierka, new instructions for 13.10, works good
[12:28] <ObrienDave> sec
[12:29] <ObrienDave> i used this: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/10/enable-hibernation-ubuntu-13-10/
[12:34] <zierka> thanks! Let's see if it works with login1
[12:34] <ObrienDave> ok
[12:38] <zierka_> thanks! Hibernation is now clickable.
[12:40] <ObrienDave> cool, you're welcome
[12:54] <zierka_> It's funny that the official documentation regarding the enable hibernation is wrong, and there is a bugreport about this dated 2013-09-29 with the solution, and the documentation is not updated 2 months after that.
[12:55] <ObrienDave> hibernate is, by default, not enabled. too many problems
[13:02] <Tuls> hi everyone
[13:03] <ObrienDave> greetings and welcome
[13:03] <Tuls> thx
[13:39] <barlefante> hello
[13:39] <barlefante> I have a little problem with my resolution
[13:40] <barlefante> I can only set resolution in root
[13:40] <barlefante> anyone know how to correct this?
[13:40] <GridCube> barlefante, in a terminal execute "xrandr" and see the results
[13:40] <GridCube> pastebin them here if you want
[13:42] <barlefante> I see all 3 resolution modes
[13:42] <barlefante> but only because I booted in recovery mode, opened a root terminal, exited and resumed boot
[13:43] <barlefante> if I boot normally, resolution stays at 640x480 without further options
[13:44] <barlefante> GridCube in other words I don't think it's a driver problem, more to do with settings and permission
[13:44] <barlefante> I have only one account
[13:47] <barlefante> Intel Extreme Graphics
[13:49] <barlefante> can you help or should I come back later?
[13:49] <cfhowlett> barlefante, ask in #ubuntu ... more eyes
[13:49] <barlefante> ok thanks
[13:49] <GridCube> barlefante, so what the terminal says when you do xrandr -s  #x#
[13:50] <GridCube> ?
[13:51] <barlefante> umm, it just asks for more options
[13:51] <barlefante> the problem is that it won't save the current resolution
[13:51] <barlefante> at the moment I have all options open
[13:52] <barlefante> I just need to save this configuration to work correctly next time I boot normally
[13:52] <GridCube> barlefante, change #x# for your desired resolution
[13:52] <barlefante> ahh
[13:53] <barlefante> no output produced...
[13:53] <GridCube> hmmm
[13:54] <GridCube> barlefante, do as cfhowlett suggested you and ask in #ubuntu maybe more knowledge people can help you there
[13:54] <barlefante> I tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but nothing happened
[13:55] <barlefante> thanks m8 I'll do that
[14:12] <barlefante> it's like I'm invisible in ubuntu channel
[14:12] <barlefante> no-one answers me
[14:12] <GridCube> :/
[14:13] <Poisoned_Dragon> maybe you're wearing stealth camouflage.
[14:13] <GridCube> barlefante, do you have arandr installed?
[14:13] <Poisoned_Dragon> I do it all the time.
[14:14] <barlefante> it would appear not
[14:14] <GridCube> barlefante, arandr is a gui for xrandr
[14:14] <barlefante> installing now
[14:14] <GridCube> it lets you do the same as xrandr but graphically
[14:15] <GridCube> if you find a setting you like using arandr you can save it as an script
[14:15] <GridCube> and then add that scritp to your autolaunch of applications
[14:15] <GridCube> so your settings get forced everytime you boot
[14:15] <barlefante> ok
[14:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> using multi-monitor, barlefante?
[14:17] <barlefante> no
[14:17] <barlefante> only laptop LCD
[14:18] <barlefante> I never heard of the make: EiSYSTEM
[14:18] <Poisoned_Dragon> ah, so it's just not setting the preffered resolution?
[14:18] <barlefante> ok I saved the script in documents
[14:18] <Poisoned_Dragon> preferred*
[14:18] <barlefante> it only sets the max.res if I boot in Recovery, open shell in root, exit, then resume booting
[14:19] <barlefante> otherwise gets stuck on 640x480
[14:19] <barlefante> and can't change it
[14:20] <Poisoned_Dragon> :(
[14:20] <ObrienDave> have you tried system settings/display?
[14:21] <barlefante> yes
[14:21] <barlefante> if I try to set lower res. now, it just goes black
[14:22] <barlefante> however, hopefully with that script that GridCube told me about, it will work
[14:22] <GridCube> barlefante, did arandr let you change the res?
[14:22] <barlefante> it's weird that each resolution has a different refresh rate
[14:23] <GridCube> if you could change the resolution using arandr then the script should work
[14:23] <slickymaster> hi GridCube
[14:23] <GridCube> sup slickymaster :)
[14:23] <barlefante> GridCube I didn't dare try in case my screen goes blak
[14:23] <barlefante> at the moment it's fine
[14:24] <barlefante> I jusst need it to be that way when I next boot up
[14:24] <barlefante> so I saved the script and added it to startup items
[14:24] <barlefante> many thanks for that suggestion
[14:24] <GridCube> don't worry, i hope it works as you want :)
[14:25] <barlefante> new to me - I have installed Xubuntu on other laptops and not had this problem
[14:25] <barlefante> thanks, I'll try it now
[14:25] <barlefante> I'll let you know if it worked :)
[14:35] <barlefante> GridCube I'm back with bad news
[14:36] <GridCube> :(
[14:36] <barlefante> first boot ended up on blak screen
[14:36] <barlefante> had to restart
[14:36] <GridCube> :(
[14:36] <barlefante> am now on this horrible resolution inside a box on the screen
[14:36] <barlefante> arandr won't give me any other choices
[14:37] <GridCube> barlefante, remove the script and reboot? also check your /etc/X11 and make sure that you DONT have a xorg.conf. if you do have it rename it or remove it
[14:37] <barlefante> I even sudoed it
[14:37] <GridCube> barlefante, that wont change things
[14:38] <GridCube> sudo has little to do in this case
[14:39] <barlefante> there is no xorg.conf file
[14:41] <barlefante> so what next? rebooting will just give me the current layout, unless I use recovery mode
[14:41] <barlefante> and the only difference is that I start and close a root shell
[14:42] <barlefante> if I could automat that process, would be fine :)
[14:45] <GridCube> sorry, i don't know
[14:45] <GridCube> barlefante, maybe you do need a xorg.conf?
[14:46] <GridCube> if you kill all your xorg sessions you can run xorg -configure
[14:46] <barlefante> hmmm
[14:47] <barlefante> how do I do that?
[14:47] <barlefante> in root terminal before login?
[14:47] <GridCube> yes
[14:47] <GridCube> that should work
[14:47] <barlefante> cheers m8
[15:20] <charles720> hi
[15:20] <barlefante> GridCube I have finally sorted this
[15:21] <barlefante> :D
[15:21] <GridCube> :D
[15:21] <GridCube> how so?
[15:22] <charles720> can someone tell me pls how i enter shell while booting so the whole process of getting stuck at boot is prevented after clean install ?
[15:22] <barlefante> umm, I had to boot in recovery mode
[15:22] <GridCube> charles720, you can press ctrl-alt-f1 to go to the first tty
[15:23] <barlefante> then sstarted root shell
[15:23] <barlefante> then sstarted root shell
[15:24] <barlefante> and instead of continuing boot sequence I forced a restart to save the settings
[15:24] <barlefante> I used shutdown -r 0
[15:25] <charles720> i tried the ctrl-alt-f1 thing but it goes to login and just continues to boot right through even though i got auto login disabled
[15:25] <charles720> i had the recovery screen showin once.. but out of mere chance or accident
[15:26] <barlefante> that was the only command I needed :p
[15:26] <charles720> recovery screen would be nice to enter
[15:26] <charles720> cause i think the prob is x.org
[15:26] <barlefante> it's easy - just hold left Shift to access grub options
[15:26] <xubuntu775> Getting a flashing curser after 13.10 install from USB.  Any ideas?  loads fine from USB
[15:26] <charles720> while rebooting ?
[15:26] <barlefante> yes when booting up
[15:27] <barlefante> before login screen
[15:27] <charles720> gonna try that after reinstall is finished
[15:27] <charles720> thx in advance. later
[15:27] <barlefante> charles what is your problem?
[15:27] <xubuntu775> installed 13,10.  getting flashing curser upper left on bootup
[15:28] <barlefante> ahh
[15:28] <xubuntu775> no problems booting from usb
[15:28] <barlefante> ok so recovery mode should give you some good options then
[15:29] <barlefante> you can go back to the previous kernel also
[15:29] <xubuntu775> hmmm.. so try to reinstall from usb?
[15:29] <xubuntu775> nope... reformated hard drive ;P
[15:29] <barlefante> no need - GRUB lists all versions ever installed
[15:30] <barlefante> a bit like Windows system restore
[15:30] <GridCube> if the kernels are still there
[15:30] <xubuntu775> hmm ok.  how do i get to them?
[15:30] <barlefante> yes if you didn't clean them out already
[15:30] <GridCube> press shift wile booting to access the grub menu
[15:30] <GridCube> choose previous linux versions
[15:30] <GridCube> and boot an older kernel, or boot in recovery mode
[15:31] <GridCube> depends on what you need
[15:31] <barlefante> hold left shift button
[15:31] <xubuntu775> in process
[15:32] <xubuntu775> ok... holding left shift held the bios bootup sceen, but as soon as I released, screen goes to curser
[15:36] <barlefante> avoid the bios screen
[15:36] <barlefante> hold it after the BIOS details go away
[15:37] <vespakoen> Hey guys, has anyone been able to install 13.10 in a Virtualbox VM ? I get an error saying that the installation has failed at the very end, and am unable to boot anything afterwards
[15:38] <barlefante> haven't tried - I normally stick to LTS versions
[15:39] <mucus> hi im install xubuntu as a secondary os with win7 already installed.
[15:40] <mucus> i am at the installation type screen.
[15:40] <xubuntu775> Still not getting the grub menu, only  flashing curser and balnk screen
[15:40] <mucus> how can i install this so that it doesnt format my data, and so i can manually add xubuntu to my win7 bootlist?
[15:42] <mucus> win7 is at /dev /sda2.  i have a lot of empty space at /dev/sda3, i think i should install xubuntu here.  and i think i should install the bootloader to /dev/sda3.  am i correct?
[15:42] <GridCube> mucus, choose "install xubuntu along windows" it SHOULD not delete your data but a BACKCUP is HIGLY RECOMMENDED
[15:43] <GridCube> i havent had any problems with the installer in a long time tho, it just does things right, but you never know
[15:44] <GridCube> mucus, the bootloader will install in the first drive
[15:44] <GridCube> regardless of partition
[15:44] <mucus> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9snba1390uz037k/IMG_20131203_104332.jpg
[15:44] <mucus> is this coreect?
[15:44] <mucus> correct
[15:45] <mucus> or should i make a new partitio  table for xubu?
[15:46] <mucus> oh huhm.... i dont think i want to do that
[15:47] <GridCube> mucus, if you do that it will format sd3, if you want you can create a new partition for it using sd3, size it down and use the free space for an sd4
[15:47] <GridCube> or you can go back and let the installer do all of this automagically
[15:47] <mucus> should i boot into windows and shrink the  olume?
[15:48] <GridCube> you can do it right there
[15:48] <GridCube> in the screen you are now
[15:48] <GridCube> remember that you need to create a small partition for swap too
[15:49] <GridCube> the usual recommendation is that the swap partition should be twice as much as your ram
[15:49] <krytarik> mucus: Yes, because your Windows 7 is there, in '/dev/sda3', rather than '/dev/sda2' as you think!
[15:49] <GridCube> ^
[15:49] <GridCube> also this
[15:50] <GridCube> windows wont let you resize the partition it lives on
[15:50] <mucus> ok lets pretend im a real dummy.
[15:50] <mucus> what do i press on this screen?
[15:50] <GridCube> mucus, "change"
[15:50] <mucus> from sda3?
[15:50] <xubuntu775> any ideas for a 13.10 install that is going straight to a flashing curser after the bios loadup?
[15:50] <GridCube> yes
[15:51] <mucus> edit partition.... shrink this i assume?
[15:51] <GridCube> take like 50 gb at the end of thepartition
[15:51] <krytarik> mucus: Well, at least use Windows tools, rather than just Gparted.
[15:51] <GridCube> yes
[15:51] <mucus> 50gb in mb?
[15:51] <GridCube> 5000
[15:51] <mucus> mb != 1024?
[15:52] <GridCube> MiB = 1024
[15:52] <GridCube> MB = 1000
[15:52] <mucus>  do i really need 50?
[15:52] <GridCube> no
[15:52] <mucus> cant i get away with 15?
[15:52] <GridCube> you can use 6gb
[15:52] <GridCube> yes
[15:52] <mucus> 6?
[15:52] <krytarik> *s/Gparted/the Xubuntu installer/
[15:52] <mucus> and itll have enough space?
[15:53] <GridCube> 6 is the minimum im confortable
[15:53] <GridCube> i0ve used 4 but thats a bit too little
[15:53] <GridCube> 16 is fair enoug
[15:53] <GridCube> remember that some space you need to give to swap
[15:53] <mucus> how much does swap need?
[15:54] <GridCube> so make it 18, then give 16 to / and 2 to swap
[15:54] <GridCube> 2gb of swap is pretty good
[15:54] <mucus> can i install thia to my 8gb sd card then?
[15:54] <GridCube> yes
[15:54] <GridCube> !unetbootin
[15:54] <mucus> ill have to use thia pc and this sd to make xubu boot.... yes?
[15:55] <msev> guys is there any way to individually resize certain desktop icons in xfce, for example if I would want to have 1 icon bigger than the others?
[15:55] <mucus> hmmmmm thanks
[15:55] <GridCube> mucus, then you could use the sd card in any computer basically
[15:55] <mucus> i didnt think of just using unetbootin
[15:55] <mucus> but thats really what i think ill do
[15:55] <GridCube> read the presistent live wiki
[15:55] <mucus> lemme quit this install....
[15:55] <GridCube> also you can actually "Install" to the sdcard
[15:55] <koegs> i would install it to the sd-card, not using live+persistent
[15:55] <mucus> oh
[15:55] <GridCube> not just use a live session
[15:56] <GridCube> thats actually better
[15:56] <GridCube> because it would not use ram to work
[15:56] <mucus> right cool
[15:56] <mucus> device for bootloader?  same sd?
[15:56] <GridCube> you need another usb to install to the sdcard
[15:56] <GridCube> you can not install to itself as it contains the installer
[15:56] <mucus> i have a cd in the tower
[15:56] <mucus> well dvd
[15:57] <koegs> so you install ubuntu to the sd-card, put grub on the sd-card and then choose the boot medium while starting the pc/notebook
[15:57] <GridCube> :) that will do
[15:57] <GridCube> as koegs say
[15:58] <notmypudding> Hello, I just installed Xubuntu to my aging computer.  It seemed to install properly, but it freezes once it hits the logo screen whenever I boot up.  How do I go about troubleshooting this problem?  I'm not sure where to begin.
[15:59] <mucus> https://www.dropbox.com/s/sqtw0q4yo9i2uoj/IMG_20131203_105842.jpg
[15:59] <mucus> like this tyen?
[15:59] <mucus> then...
[16:00] <GridCube> mucus, yep, that sounds doable :)
[16:00] <mucus> thank you so much
[16:00] <GridCube> remember that you need to install grub to the card
[16:00] <mucus> you made this easy, and probably saved my bacon....
[16:00] <mucus> cant i just raise the boot priority of the sd in bios?
[16:01] <GridCube> if grub was not installed to it, it wont matter
[16:02] <GridCube> if grub got installed to you hd then you will be able to boot the sd card only on your pc
[16:02] <mucus> ....
[16:02] <mucus> wait
[16:02] <mucus> this sd will be able to boot on any pc?!
[16:02] <mucus> ::stunned::
[16:02] <GridCube> if it has grub on it yes
[16:03] <mucus> so after i finish install i should apt-get grub or something?
[16:03] <GridCube> i would use something more friendly as boot-repair
[16:03] <mucus> got a link?
[16:03] <GridCube> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:04] <mucus> perfect
[16:04] <krytarik> mucus: You should choose 'ext4' for the system partition, rather than 'ext2', what you have now.
[16:04] <GridCube> for just 6gb there is no real difference
[16:05] <mucus> ext2 = journaling off?
[16:05] <mucus> yeah?
[16:05] <krytarik> mucus: Also, to answer your question on how much swap is recommended, please see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How_much_swap_do_I_need.3F
[16:06] <mucus> that means less read/write cycles
[16:06] <mucus> ie: longer sd lifr
[16:06] <mucus> am i thinking of that properly?
[16:06] <koegs> you wont really notice the difference in lifetime, but you loose integrity of files :)
[16:06] <mucus> if i get a catastrophic shut down
[16:07] <mucus> ie: power fails and my ups fails.
[16:07] <mucus> but proper boot/ shut down should retain integrtiy
[16:07] <mucus> i think.
[16:09] <mucus> yes? no?
[16:11] <notmypudding> I can get to the boot screen & I see the logo but it ends up freezing like this http://i.imgur.com/tF9fIrA.jpg
[16:12] <krytarik> mucus: 'ext4' has many advantages over its predecessors, and you can always turn journaling off if you really wish so.
[16:14] <mucus> kry basically by the time we started the convo it was too late ;)
[16:14] <krytarik> mucus: LOL
[16:14] <krytarik> Oh well. :P
[16:15] <mucus> i can redo the install....?  would that be worth while?
[16:15] <notmypudding> Is there a way to boot where I can see what's causing it to freeze?
[16:15] <krytarik> mucus: I do think so, yes.
[16:15] <mucus> ho huhm  gotta let this finish
[16:17] <krytarik> notmypudding: You can boot into recovery mode, and then check the previous boot's logs.
[16:22] <notmypudding> krytarik: How do I go about that?
[16:30] <krytarik> notmypudding: Press 'Shift' on boot-up to get the Grub menu, choose the "recovery mode" of your current kernel, and then after hopefully getting to the console, check "/var/log/syslog" and older for the previous boot's log entries.
[16:33] <mucus> should swap be primary or logical?
[16:34] <ObrienDave> logical
[16:36] <krytarik> mucus: Doesn't really matter.
[16:37] <Sysi> it matters, depending about your setup
[16:37] <slickymaster> mucus: for your reference http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/requirements.html
[16:38] <krytarik> Sysi, mucus: Well, if you -can- create it, it doesn't. :P
[16:38] <Sysi> krytarik: if you want to create or move partitions afterwards it does
[16:39] <krytarik> Sysi: Yeah, sure, that too. :)
[16:40] <krytarik> Sysi: But anyway, we are talking about this SD card atm :P - https://www.dropbox.com/s/sqtw0q4yo9i2uoj/IMG_20131203_105842.jpg
[16:40] <mucus> alrighty so reinstalling on the sd now, thanks again for the advice filks!
[16:40] <mucus> folks
[17:15] <mucus> okay
[17:15] <mucus> so i have xubu installed and it boots
[17:15] <mucus> how can i get wireless networking going on it?
[17:16] <mucus> i have a wifi usb thinger but xubu doesn't seem to have built in drivers for it
[17:16] <mucus> the manufacturer doesn't have linux drivers for the adapter either
[17:17] <krytarik> !wifi | mucus
[17:40] <charles720> hi again
[17:40] <charles720> after clean reinstall 13.10 via usb still stuck on boot
[17:41] <charles720> i figure its something with the graphicscard
[17:41] <charles720> had trouble with it booting on dsl distro aswell
[17:41] <charles720> but it booted once the correct parameters were set
[17:41] <charles720> so i thought editing xorg.conf would do
[17:42] <charles720> turns out xorg.conf is empty
[17:42] <charles720> so, i am new to xubuntu, does xubuntu not use xorg?
[17:42] <charles720> what does it use and where where do i find it
[17:43] <krytarik> !xorg.conf | charles720
[17:44] <charles720> k
[17:44] <mucus> if i could get my tower online i could dl the drivers for my adapter
[17:44] <charles720> i found a driver package for the specific graphic chip i am using
[17:44] <mucus> but i can't get online because i don't have the drivers for my adapter
[17:45] <GridCube> cable it
[17:45] <mucus> i don't have any 100ft cables
[17:46] <GridCube> use apt-offline
[17:46] <mucus> elaborate.
[17:46] <GridCube> !apt-offline
[17:46] <GridCube> agh
[17:46] <mucus> okay i googled it
[17:46] <mucus> anyhow, what am i doing with that?
[17:47] <GridCube> !info apt-offline
[17:47] <GridCube> driver packages and install them
[17:47] <GridCube> ?
[17:47] <mucus> how can it do that?
[17:47] <mucus> my mind is boggled.
[17:48] <GridCube> find out what drivers you need and get them?
[17:48] <mucus> wouldn't it have to be a huge thing?
[17:48] <mucus> how can it get drivers if it isn't online?
[17:48] <GridCube> get them in a different computer / OS, and install them later using apt-offline
[17:49] <mucus> ah right
[17:50] <mucus> actually, i dunno if there are drivers available for this adapter
[20:19] <e-v-o> Hi all, is it possible to install an older version of ATI drivers in Xubuntu? When I try to install 12.8 drivers it complains that there are tools missing. I have installed the linux-headers and can't figure out what tools it's refering to!
[20:22] <e-v-o> I have looked all over the web for the past couple of days and can't find a way of installing older ATI graphics drivers.
[20:25] <krytarik> e-v-o: It sounds like you are trying to install the driver off their website, right?
[20:25] <e-v-o> that's right
[20:25] <e-v-o> how else can I install older drivers?
[20:25] <krytarik> Maybe just try installing the one offered by the Additional Drivers tool.
[20:26] <e-v-o> that's the one I have installed at the moment but it doesn't work properly with some software I'm using
[20:26] <e-v-o> cgminer in specific
[20:28] <krytarik> e-v-o: What exact error message do you get there then?
[20:28] <e-v-o> no message, it simply doesn't display the user interface
[20:28] <e-v-o> in th eweb it says it's due to the graphics drivers
[20:29] <krytarik> I mean when trying to install the driver manually.
[20:30] <e-v-o> oh right, something along the lines of the system doesn't have the required tools to install the drivers
[20:30] <e-v-o> when I google the error it says to install the linux-headers
[20:30] <e-v-o> which I did to no avail
[20:30] <krytarik> Well, we need it a 'little' more specific here. :P
[20:31] <krytarik> Oh, right, so you've googled the error message and it's referring to the kernel headers eventually? Then I don't know either.
[20:32] <e-v-o> ok... well for what is worth the exact error message is "One or more tools required for the installation cannoot be found on the system.
[20:32] <e-v-o> Install the required tools before installing the fglrx driver."
[20:33] <krytarik> Yeah, that's not exactly very specific indeed. :P
[20:34] <endika> hello
[20:35] <e-v-o> No, it's a crap error message which leads me nowhere!
[20:35] <e-v-o> : (
[20:35] <krytarik> e-v-o: So you installed the package "linux-headers-generic"?
[20:36] <e-v-o> that's right
[20:36] <e-v-o> and during a second attempt I also installed the ones with the version of my kernel
[20:37] <krytarik> Yeah, that's being pulled as a matter of dependency.
[20:37] <e-v-o> It's a shame because after trying a bunch of distros I'm really digging the Xubuntu experience.
[20:37] <e-v-o> alright
[20:41] <krytarik> e-v-o: Did CGMiner ever work with the proprietary AMD/ATI driver before then?
[20:42] <e-v-o> no
[20:42] <e-v-o> I did a clean install
[20:42] <e-v-o> then installed the ATI driver from the Addicional Drivers Tool
[20:42] <krytarik> I mean on any other distro you've tried?
[20:43] <e-v-o> and saw issue and been trying to fix it since the weekend
[20:43] <e-v-o> oh yes, it was fine on Mint
[20:44] <e-v-o> And I was using the latest driver on Mint...
[20:44] <krytarik> The one off their website?
[20:45] <e-v-o> yes, I tried different ones
[20:45] <e-v-o> I mean different versions of the driver
[20:58] <krytarik> e-v-o: What version of Xubuntu are you using then?
[21:15] <e-v-o> latest 13.10
[21:19] <krytarik> e-v-o: Well, you could try upgrading to the latest driver version available here: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[23:25] <xubuntu221> Hi, I am having problems with Sound Blaster Recon3D PCIe sound card in Xubuntu 13.10 64 bit system. The solution suggested in http://askubuntu.com/questions/284183/sound-blaster-recon3d-not-working doesn't seem to work. Can anyone please help me?
[23:44] <blueland> Hi, can anyone tell me where i can find md5sum to corroborate xubuntu .iso image?
[23:45] <pleia2> blueland: which image?
[23:45] <pleia2> blueland: 13.10 has them in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/13.10/release/
[23:46] <blueland> xubunu12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso
[23:46] <pleia2> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/12.04.3/release/MD5SUMS
[23:46] <blueland> xubuntu'12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso excuse me
[23:47] <blueland> tHANK YOU SO MUCH!
[23:47] <pleia2> you're welcome :)