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ScottK | Riddell: Any SRU team member can do stuff for Kubuntu, it's just the service is better when I'm around. | 04:45 |
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soee | good morning | 07:11 |
lordievader | Good morning. | 07:26 |
soee | 4.11.4 is out :) | 08:30 |
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apachelogger | shadeslayer_, yofel: soooooooooo, kf5 apparently is building on trusty now all and entirely which means once we have gotten a last weekly snapshot we can kill raring | 09:49 |
apachelogger | unless there's objections | 09:49 |
yofel | not from me | 09:50 |
apachelogger | tsdgeos: which script generates kde's xx translations? | 10:10 |
apachelogger | trusty doesn't start -.- | 10:15 |
soee | kill raring :O | 10:16 |
apachelogger | kickoffrc bugged -.- | 10:25 |
apachelogger | anyways | 10:25 |
apachelogger | firefox transition complete, however there's integration matters that need to be taken care of | 10:25 |
apachelogger | Riddell: bug 1257675 | 10:27 |
ubottu | bug 1257675 in kubuntu-firefox-installer (Ubuntu) "please remove kubuntu-firefox-install source & binary from trusty" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1257675 | 10:27 |
apachelogger | Does anyone want to handle the announcement part of the firefox transition https://trello.com/c/M5jFkU98 | 10:30 |
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Riddell | apachelogger: I'd much rather it was left unannounced | 11:03 |
apachelogger | Riddell: why? | 11:03 |
Riddell | apachelogger: because it's a failure of KDE software to be any good | 11:06 |
Riddell | "Tm_T (Jussi Kekkonen) (tmt) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Membership" yay Tm_T still loves us | 11:06 |
apachelogger | Riddell: a success of us listening to our users ;) | 11:08 |
jussi | I guess if we put it that this is a temporary fix until kde brings out more awsomeness... | 11:09 |
apachelogger | I'd not go into detail about this at all TBH | 11:09 |
apachelogger | just "yo, ye asked for it, here it is." | 11:10 |
unicodesnowman | Hi, I'd like to do the 'Package KFileBox for Kubuntu' GCI task. I can compile programs from the command line, althrough I haven't packaged an application before. I'd like to try through. | 11:11 |
apachelogger | we cannot just hide the change, because we need testing, because we just changed the flipping browser in the cycle leading to an LTS release | 11:11 |
Tm_T | Riddell: ofcourse, even if I'm busy | 11:12 |
apachelogger | so all political nonsense aside we do need some degree of announcement and testing request | 11:12 |
apachelogger | otherwise we might as well ship no browser | 11:12 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: sweet | 11:14 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: first thing would be to compile it on your system and check it works and is useful | 11:14 |
unicodesnowman | Riddell: yep, this guide should help? http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html | 11:14 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: but tell me about you, what's your name and what have you done already? | 11:15 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: yeah that's a good page to start, I can or someone else can also take your through it when you've read that | 11:15 |
unicodesnowman | I'm Danny, I've done quite a few tasks, I was planning on cloning kfilebox and building it | 11:16 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: good start, go for it | 11:17 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: do you run Kubuntu 13.10? | 11:17 |
unicodesnowman | yup! should I claim the task? | 11:17 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: go for it, do I need to do something to assign you? | 11:17 |
unicodesnowman | You need to accept the claim, I think. I'll get started :) | 11:18 |
shadeslayer_ | Riddell: apachelogger yofel apparently Alex has a C++ replacement for kde-config-touchpad | 11:19 |
shadeslayer_ | his GSoC student wrote a replacement | 11:19 |
Riddell | shadeslayer_: alex the party? | 11:19 |
shadeslayer_ | yep | 11:19 |
Riddell | interesting | 11:19 |
shadeslayer_ | I'll have a look at this past Lunch | 11:19 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer_: GIVE IT TO ME | 11:19 |
unicodesnowman | eek, svn code doesn't build | 11:19 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer_: what's with your tail btw? | 11:20 |
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shadeslayer | I grew a tail while I was sleeping | 11:20 |
shadeslayer | I thought that was normal human behaviour | 11:20 |
Riddell | "☃ snowman has left the following comment at Package KFileBox for Kubuntu" I guess that's you unicodesnowman :) | 11:20 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: oh hi I'm Jonathan | 11:21 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: my girlfriend wonders if you've read Margaret Atwood books | 11:22 |
unicodesnowman | figured that out :) ; I haven't, does that book strangely have a reference to a unicode snowman? | 11:22 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: not convinced it is :P | 11:23 |
apachelogger | Riddell: so.... since todays image doesn't boot properly anyway I'd be ok with simply having a testing request once alpha gets released | 11:24 |
unicodesnowman | I'll need to get it compile first :P the svn fails to compile | 11:24 |
apachelogger | then people can actually test stuff xD | 11:24 |
Peace- | mmm virtualbox kubuntu 14.04 black screen ? | 11:25 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: um, that might put a stop to it (but we can find something else to package if that doesn't work) | 11:25 |
Peace- | i picked the daily build this morning | 11:25 |
Riddell | Peace-: bah, yesterday was fine | 11:25 |
apachelogger | Peace-: that's what I was talkign about just now :P | 11:25 |
Peace- | lol | 11:26 |
apachelogger | lightdm doesn't start for some reason | 11:26 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: grab the source tar file https://sourceforge.net/projects/kdropbox/files/kfilebox-0.4.9/Source/ | 11:26 |
unicodesnowman | Riddell: yup, this compiles. the svn one is dirty :P - I'll follow the guide now | 11:27 |
* Riddell cycles into the office | 11:27 | |
Peace- | apachelogger: to pick another tty ? windows key + alt f5 doesn't work | 11:28 |
Peace- | or i remember bad? | 11:28 |
apachelogger | right ctrl | 11:28 |
Peace- | ah | 11:28 |
apachelogger | rctrl+f1 | 11:28 |
Peace- | :) yesterday i have upgraded windows 8 to windows 8.1 = grub devasted , everytime i see kubuntu spaslsh screen i fell at home | 11:29 |
apachelogger | Riddell, ScottK: did we sign up for alpha1? | 11:30 |
Peace- | mmm it seems that in the menu firefox has not icon | 11:31 |
apachelogger | fixed in bzr | 11:31 |
Peace- | apachelogger: i tried to add some widets ==> error http://wstaw.org/m/2013/12/04/plasma-desktopn16279.png | 11:38 |
unicodesnowman | Riddell: sorry but I already encountered an issue :/ when I try to do bzr dh-make, I get "tar: This does not look like a tar archive" | 11:41 |
unicodesnowman | I'm passing the tar.gz to it, and I've tried passing just the .tar after ungzing it, and I can untar it with tar -zxvf | 11:41 |
apachelogger | Peace-: how did you start the session? | 11:41 |
Peace- | apachelogger: startx | 11:41 |
apachelogger | maybe some envrionment vars aren't set | 11:41 |
Peace- | ah | 11:42 |
apachelogger | or someone screwed up the packaging xD | 11:42 |
Peace- | xD | 11:42 |
apachelogger | on my saucy install that module is not present | 11:43 |
apachelogger | !find org.kde.telepathy trusty | 11:43 |
ubottu | Package/file org.kde.telepathy does not exist in trusty | 11:43 |
apachelogger | !find PythonQt.h | 11:44 |
ubottu | File PythonQt.h found in libpythonqt2-dev | 11:44 |
unicodesnowman | anyone got clues on why bzr dh-make barks at a valid .tar.gz file? | 11:50 |
apachelogger | Peace-: that's the quick chat plasmoid? | 11:53 |
soee | Peace-, this contact list doesnt work for you ? | 11:54 |
Peace- | one moment | 11:54 |
soee | its broke a long time | 11:55 |
Peace- | quick chat | 11:55 |
Peace- | it's the widget | 11:55 |
Peace- | ah ok ok | 11:55 |
Peace- | i was just testing the iso :D | 11:55 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: Riddell so regarding the xapian index, there are comments that say that the xapian index will be rebuilt on the target by apt's cron.daily | 11:57 |
shadeslayer | what say you? | 11:59 |
Peace- | soee: but that is quick chat, i do not what you are referring btw if it's on the iso it should work | 11:59 |
yofel | shadeslayer: after install? That's broken then as it's obviously not there | 12:03 |
shadeslayer | yofel: well, it'll be built once the cron job runs | 12:04 |
yofel | then anacron should trigger on first boot, and not after a day | 12:04 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: at a random point in time | 12:05 |
apachelogger | what yofel said | 12:05 |
apachelogger | technically every qapt user would also rebuild the cache first... in a perfect world... but even so that rebuilding is blocking the user from using his system | 12:06 |
apachelogger | and considering we can perfectly build an initial cache as part of target configuration during installation that blockage is utterly pointless | 12:07 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: yofel http://i.imgur.com/tIn8YDV.png | 12:08 |
shadeslayer | from http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=scratch%2Falexandermezin%2Ftouchpad.git | 12:08 |
yofel | not too shabby | 12:08 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: the reasoning that's given is that the target sources.list might be different from the one that's on the ISO | 12:09 |
yofel | can't you generate the index in /target ? | 12:10 |
apachelogger | ^ that's what you *need to* do | 12:10 |
apachelogger | generating stuff on the live session and copying it to the target never ever works | 12:11 |
* yofel remembers the cache copying talk in munich ^^ | 12:11 | |
apachelogger | e.g. for sycoca I am reasonable certain we manually rip out certain kded modules | 12:11 |
shadeslayer | right | 12:11 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: hi, how did you get on? | 12:12 |
unicodesnowman | sorry, what do you mean? | 12:12 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: yes it is built by cron but the trouble is if you want to install stuff with muon before cron does its thing | 12:12 |
shadeslayer | so there's code that updates the apt-cache on the target, we can generate the xapian index right after that then | 12:13 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: sounds good | 12:13 |
shadeslayer | tsdgeos: do you have anything that's still at 4.11? | 12:22 |
yofel | kde-workspace should be at 4.11 | 12:25 |
shadeslayer | well, yeah except for that :) | 12:28 |
shadeslayer | I don't see anything else on the proposed-migration | 12:28 |
shadeslayer | so that's good | 12:28 |
shadeslayer | ( might have missed something, so will be good if someone else gives it a go as well ) | 12:28 |
shadeslayer | I think the seeds need updating though? | 12:28 |
shadeslayer | wheee | 12:31 |
shadeslayer | current live cd doesn't boot | 12:31 |
apachelogger | Peace-: missing dependency it is | 12:32 |
Peace- | apachelogger: :) good | 12:34 |
Peace- | someone has tried to install kubuntu 14.04 ? | 12:34 |
apachelogger | sure | 12:34 |
Peace- | all ok ? apachelogger | 12:35 |
apachelogger | yeah | 12:35 |
apachelogger | except for the lightdm issue | 12:35 |
Peace- | good i am going to test too | 12:35 |
Peace- | ok that is not a problem | 12:35 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: where did you get to with kfilebox? | 12:39 |
unicodesnowman | i'm currently fiddling with compression issues with bzr. I *had* got a .deb file before, but it didn't do anything when I ran it | 12:39 |
unicodesnowman | Turns out that was a but with the program, not with my packaging. :P | 12:40 |
* unicodesnowman is trying to figure out how to pass "use -z option" to tar /for/ dpkg-source | 12:42 | |
BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:43 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: I'm setting up an ec2 (cloud) server so we can work on it together, do you have an ssh key? | 12:44 |
unicodesnowman | yep, I'll pastebin it? | 12:44 |
unicodesnowman | lemmie try and get it working, I untargz'd and re-tar-gz'd, now it I'm able to actually use dh-make | 12:45 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: yes please | 12:45 |
unicodesnowman | Riddell: http://pastebin.com/Vc56EAZY | 12:46 |
unicodesnowman | thank you by the way :) | 12:47 |
unicodesnowman | Riddell: I think I successfully packaged it | 12:49 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: ssh ubuntu@ec2-107-21-133-26.compute-1.amazonaws.com | 12:49 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: run byobu | 12:50 |
unicodesnowman | Riddell: I'm in byobu, can you see what I'm typing? | 12:51 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: yay :) | 12:51 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: yes we're now sharing a screen | 12:51 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: from your local computer can you copy over the files you have? scp * ubuntu@ec2-107-21-133-26.compute-1.amazonaws.com: | 12:52 |
apachelogger | ehm | 12:54 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: lovely,let me take a look | 12:54 |
unicodesnowman | scping. I believe I've got a working .deb, I'm currently just setting up a new gpg key and such | 12:55 |
apachelogger | Riddell: https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/b674d33a11fddc5b8e414df042f41bb5a9b047af people still have printer-applet on 13.10 and it explodes a lot | 12:55 |
unicodesnowman | I had issues with the .tar.gz I downloaded, the build process would complain, I uncompressed and recompressed it into a .tar.gz and it seemed to work | 12:55 |
Riddell | apachelogger: ehm | 12:56 |
apachelogger | exactly xD | 12:56 |
unicodesnowman | (note: I do not think whta changed in v0.4.9 was documented :/ ) | 12:57 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: hah you're right, the upstream tar was actually gzipped twice | 12:57 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: well done on figuring that out | 12:58 |
apachelogger | bug 1196344 is also occuring a lot on 13.10 | 12:59 |
ubottu | bug 1196344 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "ksplashqml crashed with SIGSEGV in QObject::setProperty()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1196344 | 12:59 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: yuck is uses qmake for a build system, qmake is messy | 12:59 |
unicodesnowman | Riddell: thanks, and yeah I reckon! | 12:59 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: can you install the package and run the application? | 13:00 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: does the application actually do anything useful? (I've not tried it) | 13:00 |
unicodesnowman | yes, it runs, but if you don't complete the setup proecss you need to delete .dropbox in your home directory | 13:01 |
unicodesnowman | otherwise it does nothing. the second time I run it (after packaging), I thought something was wrong on my end :/ | 13:01 |
unicodesnowman | (this has to be the worst program to package for for a beginner, lol) | 13:01 |
Riddell | sorry :) | 13:01 |
unicodesnowman | I'll create and upload it to my ppa? | 13:02 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: so I think to complete the task there's some tidying up to be done then yep upload to a PPA | 13:02 |
Peace- | mmm tryint usb 14.04 it seems blocked | 13:03 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: where does that rules.dh7 come from? | 13:03 |
Peace- | computer 5 years old | 13:04 |
unicodesnowman | Riddell: generated when I ran dh-make | 13:04 |
unicodesnowman | (i think) | 13:04 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: do you know if it works? | 13:04 |
Peace- | ok is working | 13:05 |
unicodesnowman | it's loading (Downloading Dropbox Daemon) | 13:06 |
unicodesnowman | no, it doesn't work :( - it's stuck on dropbox linking. | 13:08 |
Riddell | hmm I should have set this server up to be amd64, i386 I can't easily test | 13:08 |
unicodesnowman | lemmie see if I get the same issue building from source | 13:08 |
Peace- | Riddell: i have this old broadcom 4306 and it doesn't work on kubuntu, it needs firmware i guess | 13:12 |
Peace- | 14.04 | 13:12 |
unicodesnowman | Riddell: GTK installer works! | 13:12 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: umm, what? | 13:12 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: gtk installer? | 13:12 |
unicodesnowman | yeah, GTK installer or setup wizard. that worked | 13:13 |
unicodesnowman | 'simply link' does not work | 13:13 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: what gtk installer? | 13:15 |
unicodesnowman | after you run kfilebox, and it downloads the Dropbox Daemon it asks you: | 13:15 |
unicodesnowman | "Run gtk based installer" or "Or simplly (sic) link account" | 13:16 |
Riddell | umm, ok, interesting | 13:16 |
unicodesnowman | the 'gtk based installer' works, the 'link account' does not. not an issue with the packaging, it just doesn't work when I make it from source (changed API?) | 13:16 |
unicodesnowman | should I just remove the option for 'simply link account'? | 13:17 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: patching that out would be good if it doesn't work yes | 13:18 |
unicodesnowman | Riddell, ok, what tidying tasks should I do? | 13:19 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: hang on I'm setting up an amd64 server | 13:22 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: use the rules.dh7 file as the rules file, it seems to work fine | 13:22 |
Riddell | then you'll need to add an install file listing the files to install (because this is too hard for qmake to do) | 13:23 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: ubuntu@ec2-54-242-220-132.compute-1.amazonaws.com | 13:24 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: copy your stuff up there again | 13:24 |
unicodesnowman | ok | 13:24 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: use the dh7 rules file, it's much neater (as you can see it abstracts everything away) | 13:24 |
Riddell | add debian/install and list files to be installed and where | 13:24 |
unicodesnowman | would I do that by replacing the rules contents with dh7? | 13:25 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: yeah | 13:25 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: tidy up the changelog, no need to keep upstream's stuff, just have one entry for yourself saying "initial package" | 13:25 |
unicodesnowman | ok | 13:25 |
Riddell | probably the debian/docs and debian/dirs files can go to | 13:25 |
Riddell | patch that option away | 13:26 |
Riddell | that'll be fiddly | 13:27 |
unicodesnowman | currently I just took the low risk option by making that button not visible | 13:27 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: that's the best way, minimal changes are best | 13:28 |
Riddell | that patch can go in debian/patches in the packaging | 13:28 |
Riddell | unicodesnowman: I need to go for a lunch meeting now | 13:28 |
Riddell | if you get stuck get apachelogger or someone to help you | 13:28 |
unicodesnowman | ok, thank you for your help! | 13:28 |
Sick_Rimmit | Hi everyone | 13:37 |
soee | hi Sick_Rimmit | 13:38 |
Sick_Rimmit | Received my Kubuntu Business cards, Thank You, I shall be handing these out, with Kubuntu Live / Install dischs at LUG, Raspberry Pi, and some Business meetings too, so very welcome | 13:38 |
Sick_Rimmit | I am trying hard to get my head around Kubuntu development process. I think I got the beginnings of Bug fixing, and Documentation I think I'm getting there. Ultimately I want to write an Application for the Ubuntu store using QML and provide support for Touch. | 13:41 |
Sick_Rimmit | I can code reasonably OK. But I just get lost in the plethora of pages and links in the Ubuntu / Kubuntu docs... | 13:42 |
Sick_Rimmit | If anyone has advice or pointers about what to read and where that would be really useful to me | 13:43 |
Sick_Rimmit | My coding origins are BBC Basic, Cobol, Pascal, Assembler.. | 13:43 |
Sick_Rimmit | Yes I am a born again coder I guess, | 13:44 |
Peace- | great | 13:45 |
Sick_Rimmit | Most of what I have done before was on 8bit Micro's, But I'm competent with PHP, and OK with Python. I've got the OOP ideas in my head now too, after much scalp scratching | 13:45 |
Peace- | kubuntu 14.04 installed properly i was be able to connect to internet this old pc using a wired shared connection with the brand new | 13:45 |
Peace- | wifi did not work | 13:45 |
Peace- | so i have used the new computer , that with wifi connection , created new wired shared connection connected via ethernet cable computer 1 to computer 2 :) it just works out of the box | 13:46 |
Peace- | nice | 13:46 |
Sick_Rimmit | Peace-: Is that using the new Network Manager ? | 13:47 |
Peace- | i don't think so | 13:48 |
Peace- | kubuntu 13.10 with wifi connection ===> kubuntu 14.04 without wifi connection | 13:48 |
Peace- | so 13.10 should use old network manager | 13:48 |
Peace- | Riddell: i got an error on jokey-kde | 13:49 |
Peace- | could not find any typelib for appindicartor3 | 13:49 |
sem | Riddell: apachelogger http://wstaw.org/m/2013/12/04/plasma-desktoptN1748.png | 13:52 |
sem | always 14. 04 | 13:52 |
apachelogger | jockey is being replaced | 13:52 |
sem | ah ok | 13:52 |
apachelogger | on that note | 13:52 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: you may want to hurry up :P | 13:52 |
apachelogger | what with needing testing and all | 13:52 |
sem | apachelogger: btw the installation was fantastic | 13:53 |
sem | i did not know that i could share connection with a kubuntu wifi-working computer via ethernet cable | 13:54 |
sem | even in the installation process | 13:54 |
apachelogger | magic | 13:54 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: yep, will give it a shot tomorrow | 14:04 |
shadeslayer | image doesn't boot in VBox :( | 14:04 |
unicodesnowman | about ubuntu PPAs: after I uploaded a package, is it normal that it doesn't immediately update? | 14:05 |
unicodesnowman | do I need to wait a certain amount of time? | 14:05 |
unicodesnowman | I get "Successfully uploaded packages.", but it doesn't show up. | 14:05 |
apachelogger | unicodesnowman: takes a while, it will send a mail once accepted | 14:10 |
unicodesnowman | apachelogger: ok, thank you, going to go to bed now | 14:11 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: tomorrow image doesn't boot in vbox, what? | 14:11 |
apachelogger | unicodesnowman: good night | 14:11 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: what | 14:11 |
unicodesnowman | I'm now 1000% less scared of creating a new package :P | 14:11 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: exactly | 14:11 |
shadeslayer | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/trusty-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync | 14:12 |
shadeslayer | doesn't work | 14:12 |
apachelogger | worked for me | 14:12 |
apachelogger | I suspect pebkac | 14:12 |
apachelogger | unless a second image was built | 14:12 |
apachelogger | in which case you should get to the office earlier and try the image in the mornings :P | 14:12 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://i.imgur.com/gD7fbNZ.png | 14:17 |
apachelogger | is that after install? | 14:17 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: that's when booting the live cd | 14:21 |
shadeslayer | and clicking "Try Kubuntu" | 14:21 |
apachelogger | same problem then | 14:21 |
apachelogger | lightdm is kaput | 14:22 |
shadeslayer | looks like it | 14:22 |
shadeslayer | sudo service lightdm start -> start: Job failed to start | 14:22 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6519961/ | 14:23 |
shadeslayer | "Remove lightdm-set-defaults and gdmflexiserver" | 14:29 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: filed a bug against lightdm | 14:40 |
shadeslayer | bug 1257760 | 14:40 |
ubottu | bug 1257760 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Lightdm doesn't work on Kubuntu Trusty anymore" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1257760 | 14:40 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer, Riddell: what do we call that whoopsie thing? Diagnostics? | 14:48 |
shadeslayer | sounds good to me | 14:48 |
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Riddell | apachelogger: why not call it whoopsie? | 14:53 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: Whoopsie is the tool that sends diagnostic data, this is just a KCM to interact with Whoopsie | 14:56 |
Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: you're welcome, do look at the trello board if you want to get into doing things or help out packaging | 15:00 |
Sick_Rimmit | Riddell: Yes, I am just looking at the ZaReason videos on Ubuntu Development. | 15:01 |
apachelogger | Riddell: actually the reason is that whoopsie is technobabble :P | 15:01 |
Sick_Rimmit | Sort of feel like there is lots of information, but everything is everywhere | 15:01 |
Sick_Rimmit | Maybe its just me.. | 15:01 |
apachelogger | Riddell: the thing is called kde-config-whoopsie, I am asking about what to call it in user facing stuff | 15:02 |
Sick_Rimmit | However, fear not I will figure it out | 15:02 |
Riddell | apachelogger: oh right, yeah call it Diagnostics then | 15:03 |
Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: sounds like you need a task to get started on | 15:05 |
Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: you could for example look at merging quassel package with debian | 15:05 |
Sick_Rimmit | Riddell: Yes, but if you recall I took on the Watch List task before, and failed! :-( | 15:06 |
Sick_Rimmit | Riddell: I sort of feel all disconnected with bits of knowledge everywhere. | 15:06 |
Peace- | mm syslog doens't exist anymore ? | 15:06 |
Sick_Rimmit | Riddell: My plan was to try to do a Bug Fix, using the Getting Started docs | 15:07 |
apachelogger | Riddell: kde:scratch/sitter/kcm-whoopsie now also has packaging and diagnostics as name, should be good for release now | 15:10 |
Riddell | apachelogger: ooh lovely | 15:10 |
Riddell | apachelogger: need me to do stuff? | 15:10 |
apachelogger | just a review if you feel bored | 15:11 |
Riddell | Peace-: sure it does | 15:11 |
apachelogger | oh layout still needs a change | 15:11 |
Riddell | apachelogger: did you work out how it related to apport? | 15:11 |
apachelogger | show reports anchors right which looks terrible when having a super wide window | 15:11 |
apachelogger | Riddell: not yet, no | 15:11 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: apachelogger is it fine if I package the new touchpad KCM in Kubuntu experimental PPA | 15:11 |
shadeslayer | for people to try out | 15:11 |
apachelogger | sure | 15:11 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: awooga | 15:12 |
shadeslayer | cool | 15:12 |
shadeslayer | do we want the git import to be owned by kubuntu-dev or kubuntu-ppa? | 15:12 |
apachelogger | -members | 15:12 |
shadeslayer | ack | 15:13 |
apachelogger | -dev is only there to manage upload permissions | 15:13 |
apachelogger | equally -ppa is only there to provide nice ppa urls ;) | 15:13 |
shadeslayer | project .. .hmm | 15:17 |
shadeslayer | doesn't have a project for now | 15:17 |
shadeslayer | can't put in junk apparently | 15:17 |
Riddell | why not? | 15:17 |
shadeslayer | form doesn't allow me to | 15:18 |
Riddell | kubuntu-packaging | 15:18 |
Riddell | if it's packaging | 15:18 |
shadeslayer | it's a code importy | 15:18 |
shadeslayer | but I've put it in packaging for now | 15:19 |
Riddell | ah, then you need to make a project | 15:19 |
shadeslayer | ololol | 15:19 |
shadeslayer | Form doesn't allow you to change it | 15:19 |
shadeslayer | but once you set it to kubuntu-packaging, you can change it to junk on the details page :D | 15:19 |
Riddell | good old launchpad, always configurable if you know how | 15:20 |
shadeslayer | :) | 15:20 |
shadeslayer | can't take the kde-config-touchpad name :/ | 15:27 |
shadeslayer | kde-config-touchpad-to-be-seen-if-better | 15:27 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: why are you doing a code import of it? | 15:33 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: daily packages for people to test? | 15:33 |
shadeslayer | it doesn't have a release yet | 15:33 |
Riddell | okay dokay | 15:34 |
shadeslayer | calling it kde-touchpad-config for now | 15:35 |
Sick_Rimmit | I use 12.04 LTS on my laptop, I prefer the LTS releases for daily use. I also have a 13.10 in Virtualbox, Ideally I would prefer to setup and use the development tools from 12.04 on my Laptop. Does this sound OK | 15:35 |
Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: there's not much need to be using 12.04 when you're developing for 14.04.. | 15:37 |
Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: but I'm on 13.10 now developing for 14.04 and 12.04 and I use chroots and ec2 servers | 15:38 |
Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: use debootstrap to make a chroot would be a good way to start | 15:38 |
Sick_Rimmit | Riddell: OK I can setup something for this. From the docs, I got the impression that pbuilder takes care of the build environment. | 15:39 |
Riddell | anyone got comments on qt 5 qreal transition? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-December/037859.html | 15:39 |
Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: depends if you use pbuilder or not, I don't use it except as a final test, I just manage my chroots manually, pbuilder sets up a chroot each time which takes a lot of time | 15:40 |
Sick_Rimmit | Riddell: Ah OK I understand now. | 15:41 |
Sick_Rimmit | Riddell: For simplicity and so that I can follow the Doc's I will use pbuilder, and accept the time penalty whilst I find my feet, thanks | 15:43 |
Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: which docs are you reading? | 15:43 |
Sick_Rimmit | Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Development/Devbeginnings#Ubuntu Development Beginnings | 15:44 |
Riddell | hmm that also has stuff about bzr in it which I don't think it necessary | 15:45 |
Riddell | that's what unicodesnowman was using earlier which I think is just extra faffy | 15:45 |
Sick_Rimmit | Well I have bzr setup, and am OK with it, more experience with SVN.. | 15:47 |
Riddell | mm, but using full source tree bzr branches is just unnecessary | 15:53 |
* Peace- http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/verademilo1.jpeg | 15:57 | |
Peace- | kubuntu 14.04 properly installed | 15:57 |
Peace- | i like it | 15:57 |
Riddell | umm | 16:00 |
Riddell | Peace-: did you sort your blank screen issue out? | 16:00 |
Peace- | Riddell: yes | 16:01 |
Peace- | Riddell: well sorry i have just started anew tty | 16:01 |
Peace- | and it says that there is not a configuration found | 16:01 |
Riddell | hmm | 16:03 |
Riddell | but it's likely to be not our problem if a kde session still runs fine | 16:03 |
sem | Riddell: lighdm error it's here i am Peace- http://paste.kde.org/p25336f27 | 16:03 |
Peace- | Riddell: there is not lightdm.conf file ? | 16:04 |
Peace- | Riddell: btw in my instaallation i have another problem i can't add a wifi connection too | 16:05 |
Peace- | i just do add wifi bla bla set password etc but it just doeesnt add it | 16:05 |
sem | wifi seems works fine sudo iwlist wlan0 scan does the job find all the stuff | 16:06 |
sem | but then i can 't add the wifi :s | 16:06 |
Riddell | sem: what are you testing? | 16:07 |
sem | 14.04 : add a wifi connection | 16:08 |
sem | mmm | 16:11 |
sem | [ 17.414714] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready | 16:11 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: "The owner of the recipe (Kubuntu Members) does not have permission to upload packages into the daily build PPA (Kubuntu Experimental)" | 16:13 |
Riddell | mm no it doesn't | 16:14 |
Riddell | sem: the only thing that has changed revently on the kubuntu side is a new version of plasma-nm, but possibly something has broken lower down | 16:15 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: recipe under my name for now | 16:15 |
sem | Riddell: the strange thing it's that there is no way to add the connection here http://wstaw.org/m/2013/12/04/plasma-desktoplq1556.png | 16:16 |
sem | you can configure it but it just doesn't add | 16:16 |
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Riddell | sem: add button? | 16:17 |
Peace- | Riddell: yes the add button you can click set what you want then it will not appear | 16:19 |
Peace- | on the connection window | 16:19 |
Riddell | Peace-: you could install the old plasma-nm package and see if it works better | 16:19 |
Peace- | ok i will try i t | 16:19 |
shadeslayer | xnox: I'm confused wrt something about ubiquity, got a moment? | 16:21 |
sem | Riddell: i will try this one http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/kde/plasma-nm | 16:21 |
xnox | shadeslayer: what's up? | 16:21 |
shadeslayer | xnox: there's install.py that implements Install.run() and then there's plugininstall which implements Install.run() , which one is called first by ubiquity? | 16:22 |
shadeslayer | xnox: I'm trying to make ubiquity populate the xapian cache on the target right after the installer updates the apt cache | 16:23 |
xnox | shadeslayer: i am always confused about plugininstall, the fact that there are _multiple_ same named python files does not help, and the fact that their location is shuffled on the installed system also does not help. | 16:25 |
shadeslayer | bah | 16:25 |
shadeslayer | yeah, I should have said scripts/plugininstall.py | 16:26 |
shadeslayer | in the source | 16:26 |
xnox | (their location shuffled on the installed system that is on the live cd) | 16:26 |
shadeslayer | yep | 16:26 |
xnox | the way I understand it is that, after initial squashfs is blasted, "pages" ( i really don't want to use work plugin here) can register a plugininstall hook, such that "plugininstall" can execute the "other plugininstall" which does whole bunch of things. | 16:27 |
xnox | the most recent implementation of this is ubuntu-one plugin. | 16:27 |
shadeslayer | http://pastebin.kde.org/pbjez8vyt | 16:27 |
shadeslayer | is how I was thinking of doing it | 16:28 |
genii | Not sure why but some update today pulled in Wayland | 16:28 |
xnox | mymicing ubuntuone should be sufficient...... it's just that you actually don't need to wait for any user input / values | 16:28 |
shadeslayer | okay, looking | 16:29 |
shadeslayer | xnox: this seems a bit too much for just updating the xapian index since it's not really a page | 16:31 |
xnox | shadeslayer: | 16:32 |
xnox | * Remove /target/var/lib/apt-xapian-index per Michael Vogt, since it needs | 16:32 |
xnox | to be rebuilt based on the installed system's sources.list, and apt's | 16:32 |
xnox | cron.daily script and/or synaptic will do this. | 16:32 |
xnox | ubiquity (1.12.0) jaunty; urgency=low | 16:32 |
shadeslayer | yes, I saw that | 16:32 |
shadeslayer | xnox: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/12/04/%23kubuntu-devel.html#t12:03 | 16:34 |
Peace- | Riddell: mmm seems that doesn't fix the problem | 16:35 |
xnox | shadeslayer: can you try dropping "#!/bin/sh \n chroot /target apt-xapian-index" as /usr/lib/ubiquity/target-config/run-apt-xapian and mark it executable and check if it did run? | 16:36 |
shadeslayer | trying | 16:38 |
xnox | well "/usr/sbin/update-apt-xapian-index" | 16:38 |
shadeslayer | yep, already made that change locally ;) | 16:38 |
xnox | shadeslayer: that patch is not correct, as it would run apt-xapian-index in parallel to "apt-get update" which is wrong. | 16:59 |
shadeslayer | oh okay | 16:59 |
shadeslayer | xnox: I /think/ it works | 17:00 |
shadeslayer | waiting for install to finish | 17:00 |
shadeslayer | but atleast there is a /target/var/lib/apt-xapian-index folder | 17:00 |
xnox | shadeslayer: it would, but it is ugly. but it gives us a time reference where/when it's run. | 17:00 |
shadeslayer | oh, why is it ugly? | 17:01 |
xnox | shadeslayer: if it takes too long, we'd want to start it early and run it in parallel to the rest of stuff. | 17:01 |
xnox | instead of blocking the install / extending the install wall-clock time. | 17:01 |
shadeslayer | true | 17:01 |
xnox | i think instead of deleting the cache we should incrementally update it. | 17:01 |
shadeslayer | so yeah that script does work | 17:06 |
shadeslayer | xnox: so what could be done is not remove the index, and just run xapian update with the script which shouldn't take long? | 17:12 |
xnox | huh? no | 17:13 |
xnox | shadeslayer: remove the code that removes the index from target which got copied from the CD | 17:13 |
xnox | shadeslayer: add code to incrementally update the apt-index in target after sources got refreshed. | 17:14 |
shadeslayer | xnox: and how do I know that the update cache process has finished? | 17:16 |
xnox | shadeslayer: same way one always does, but using Popen module, storing pid, and if not exited kill at the end of ubiquity....... | 17:18 |
xnox | see e.g. pid management of all the other processes..... | 17:18 |
xnox | shadeslayer: on the other hand i'd like to find where/why the software-center postinst is executed on the ubuntu cd. | 17:18 |
shadeslayer | ah, at the end of run() you kill the update process, I can just update the cache incrementally after that | 17:22 |
Riddell | "PPA exceeded its size limit (10488.00 of 10240.00 MiB)" bother, ninjas is full up | 17:27 |
* Riddell deletes raring 4.11.3 packages | 17:28 | |
shadeslayer | xnox: I don't suppose there's a way other than printing a debug message to see if the command was actually run | 17:53 |
xnox | shadeslayer: it should be in the syslog, prefixed with ubiquity. | 17:55 |
xnox | shadeslayer: but note there is a bug over the past few days were syslogd was broken in ubuntu, so there was none. | 17:55 |
shadeslayer | yeah, I don't see a /var/log/syslog | 17:55 |
shadeslayer | xnox: http://pastebin.kde.org/pgmdv8j64 | 17:58 |
shadeslayer | oh | 17:59 |
shadeslayer | wrong indent | 17:59 |
shadeslayer | http://pastebin.kde.org/pwaf0k1j9 < better | 17:59 |
xnox | shadeslayer: this is still wrong. | 17:59 |
shadeslayer | :O | 17:59 |
xnox | shadeslayer: you canno use subprocess.call () | 18:00 |
xnox | shadeslayer: as i told you above. | 18:00 |
xnox | shadeslayer: and you cannot be doing it from scripts/install.py at all, now you have moved it from "running in parallel" to "we are about to shutdown" step. | 18:01 |
xnox | shadeslayer: the update-apt-xapian-index should be tracking pid and be executed where the delete of the apt-xapian-index used to happen | 18:01 |
xnox | or lower down, not sure where though. | 18:01 |
xnox | ideally i'd want to place it just before software-centre postinst is executed (that's on ubuntu cds) | 18:02 |
xnox | but I can't find where that happens. | 18:02 |
shadeslayer | xnox: one other thing that I don't quite get | 18:04 |
shadeslayer | update-apt-cache calls apt-get update from the live session | 18:04 |
shadeslayer | but then apt-get upgrade is called with the cache placed in /target | 18:05 |
xnox | not quite. | 18:05 |
shadeslayer | oh? | 18:05 |
xnox | there are multiple apt calls, and apt is flexible to one can just exec "apt-get" but set options such that it uses configs e.g. from /target and or places caches there. | 18:05 |
xnox | ubiquity installer can receive auto-update notification and self upgrade in the live session from the first screen. | 18:06 |
xnox | as a last-resort installer hot-fix option, if there is network connectivity | 18:06 |
xnox | and then it does call update/upgrade from live session. | 18:06 |
xnox | there are also various calls to install/upgrade -> which actually are no-op, they re-mark things as manually installed instead of automatic such that at the end of the installation they are not auto removed | 18:07 |
shadeslayer | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk/view/head:/scripts/update-apt-cache | 18:07 |
shadeslayer | ^^ that to me reads as : update the cache on the live system in /var/cache/apt , but then use the cache on the target, which might be out of date, for upgrading? | 18:08 |
xnox | shadeslayer: Note "-d" which is download only. | 18:08 |
xnox | shadeslayer: and that script is only called if one ticks "Download updates during installation" | 18:08 |
xnox | shadeslayer: note that no upgrade is actually performed. | 18:08 |
shadeslayer | sure, but isn't it potentially using a outdated cache? | 18:08 |
xnox | shadeslayer: no, it's using live-session cache which was just generated in line 5, but downloads / places .debs into target. | 18:09 |
shadeslayer | ahhh | 18:09 |
xnox | which is created in line 3 & 4 | 18:09 |
shadeslayer | okay that makes more sense | 18:09 |
xnox | jedi wave - these are not the apt-get update you are looking for =) | 18:10 |
shadeslayer | =D | 18:10 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: btw where do we want the KDE Developer meta package? in kdelibs? | 18:11 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: ^^ | 18:13 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: kde-meta ? | 18:25 |
Riddell | kubuntu-meta ? | 18:26 |
Peace- | Riddell: changed kubuntu-settings-desktop no candidate ? | 18:27 |
shadeslayer | meta-kde sounds like the best one so far | 18:27 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: http://pastebin.kde.org/px1fc2nqq | 18:38 |
shadeslayer | alternatively, we define a variable in debian/rules with : apt-cache showsrc kde4libs | grep -i Build-Depends | cut -b 16- | 18:42 |
shadeslayer | and that gets substituted in control | 18:42 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: that would miss kdepimlibs-dev and other -devs which are part of kde sc | 18:46 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: can be added to Recommends | 18:49 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: I can push the initial version, and then we add stuff as required? | 18:55 |
Riddell | yeah | 18:57 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: http://pastebin.kde.org/pfvxm7l3i < better now? | 19:01 |
shadeslayer | with automatic Build-Depends parsing :> | 19:01 |
shadeslayer | It's architechture any because the parsing has Build Depends that are only installed on a specific arch | 19:02 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: pushed to meta-kde | 19:04 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: feel free to add more stuff as required | 19:05 |
ovidiu-florin | I have the oportinity to give to a school a laptop with pre installed Kubuntu. How would I change the default desktop settings for all/any users? | 19:59 |
ovidiu-florin | I'm logged in the OEM temporary user | 20:00 |
ovidiu-florin | can I just change the desktop settings here? od do I have to change something somwhere? | 20:00 |
shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: I believe you have to change them elsewhere | 20:45 |
shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: you can start with /usr/share/kubuntu-desktop-settings | 20:45 |
shadeslayer | or whatever it's called | 20:45 |
ovidiu-florin | shadeslayer: I found my answer here http://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/Modify_KDE_Software_Defaults | 20:45 |
shadeslayer | sure | 20:46 |
shadeslayer | but that might not work for Kubuntu since we override KDE defaults | 20:46 |
ovidiu-florin | thank you | 20:46 |
kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1257760] Lightdm doesn't launch Plasma on Kubuntu Trusty anymore @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1257760 (by Rohan Garg) | 20:46 |
shadeslayer | and you *really* don't want skel | 20:46 |
ovidiu-florin | why not? | 20:47 |
shadeslayer | can cause all sorts of cache issues | 20:47 |
shadeslayer | I highly recommend looking at kubuntu-settings | 20:47 |
ovidiu-florin | ok, thank you | 20:50 |
ovidiu-florin | shadeslayer: for the settings where can I see a documentation on how to edit the panel settings? for example how do I set the digital clock to show the long date? | 21:42 |
shadeslayer | search for plasma desktop scripting | 21:43 |
ovidiu-florin | shadeslayer: I think I've found it | 22:04 |
shadeslayer | ;) | 22:04 |
ovidiu-florin | shadeslayer: I can't find how to set folderview as default | 22:15 |
shadeslayer | set folderview as default for what? | 22:15 |
shadeslayer | ah | 22:15 |
ovidiu-florin | desktop | 22:15 |
shadeslayer | right | 22:15 |
shadeslayer | it can be done | 22:15 |
shadeslayer | I don't remember it off the top of my head | 22:15 |
shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: set it to folderview in your regular desktop and check what config value changes in ~/.kde/share/config | 22:16 |
shadeslayer | then you can do appropriate config writes | 22:16 |
ovidiu-florin | yeah, I tried that | 22:16 |
ovidiu-florin | and Kate is messed up and doesn't show the differences all the times | 22:17 |
ovidiu-florin | it just freezes | 22:17 |
ovidiu-florin | now it won't open | 22:17 |
shadeslayer | just copy ~/.kde to ~/.kde.bak | 22:17 |
shadeslayer | then run diff on the config folders | 22:18 |
shadeslayer | jussi: pingly | 22:18 |
ovidiu-florin | ok | 22:18 |
shadeslayer | o_o | 22:23 |
Sick_Rimmit | Cool, after a busy day reading through docs, and getting lost in bug reports, I think I am ready to have a crack at fixing my first bug. | 22:26 |
Sick_Rimmit | That's enough for today, catch yall tomorrow.. ttfn | 22:26 |
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ovidiu-florin | for OEM installs can I change the default language for the first boot, when the user has to configure his account? | 23:03 |
ovidiu-florin | shadeslayer: I've removed the activities widget from /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/apps/plasma-desktop/init/00-defaultLayout.js but on the first login on the new user the widget is still there. Is there some other place that adds it? | 23:06 |
shadeslayer | yes | 23:06 |
shadeslayer | there's a kde specific update script that adds it | 23:06 |
shadeslayer | /usr/share/kde4/apps/plasma-desktop/updates/addShowActivitiesManagerPlasmoid.js | 23:07 |
ovidiu-florin | where is it called from? I want to disable it | 23:09 |
shadeslayer | It's called by plasma code | 23:09 |
shadeslayer | the only way to disable it is by patching the source or removing that file | 23:10 |
ovidiu-florin | removing the file won't affect it if the user later adds the widget? | 23:11 |
shadeslayer | nope | 23:12 |
shadeslayer | however the file will probably reappear on a update | 23:12 |
shadeslayer | causing the widget to be added on a upgrade | 23:12 |
ovidiu-florin | what if I just comment the internals of that if? | 23:12 |
shadeslayer | what if? | 23:12 |
shadeslayer | upgrade will overwrite file | 23:12 |
ovidiu-florin | oh.. | 23:12 |
shadeslayer | new file will not have comments | 23:12 |
shadeslayer | log out -> log in -> new shiny plasmoid | 23:13 |
ovidiu-florin | so there is no way to disable it for good | 23:14 |
shadeslayer | nope | 23:14 |
ovidiu-florin | that thing is very confusing for new users | 23:14 |
shadeslayer | heheh | 23:15 |
ovidiu-florin | they don't know what it is, and just click their way into it and all of the sudden their desktop is gone | 23:15 |
ovidiu-florin | and the I get mad calls from angry users | 23:15 |
ovidiu-florin | complaining that Kubuntu is bad | 23:15 |
* ovidiu-florin experienced this before | 23:16 | |
ovidiu-florin | I have an oportunity to put Kubuntu in a kindergarden and I need a way to controll the user interface | 23:18 |
shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: the only way to fix that is to patch the source I'm afraid | 23:19 |
ovidiu-florin | can't I make a script that deletes that file before login? | 23:20 |
ovidiu-florin | :D | 23:20 |
shadeslayer | well | 23:20 |
ovidiu-florin | I guess that thing comes from upstream right? | 23:20 |
shadeslayer | maybe, if you name it correctly | 23:20 |
shadeslayer | it might just work | 23:20 |
shadeslayer | I don't recall what I did when I had to remove that file | 23:21 |
ovidiu-florin | if I name what correctly? | 23:21 |
shadeslayer | ovidiu-florin: the update scripts are called in a sequence according to the name of the script | 23:21 |
ovidiu-florin | where are these scripts located? | 23:22 |
shadeslayer | "If there is more than one script, they are run sequentially in the alphabetical order of the file names." | 23:22 |
shadeslayer | from http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/PlasmaDesktopScripting | 23:22 |
shadeslayer | so if you name it so that it is run after the activities script, it'll work | 23:22 |
shadeslayer | also remember that the paths are also taken into account | 23:23 |
shadeslayer | read that page ^^ :P | 23:23 |
shadeslayer | has everything you need | 23:23 |
ovidiu-florin | ok, thanks | 23:24 |
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