| MangaKaDenza | wihu, still here? | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| wihu | yes | 00:02 |
| julian_ | Hello... | 00:02 |
| wihu | but im still trying to figure out kubuntu keybord so maby my answers will sound a bit retarded | 00:03 |
| wihu | I just installed java, just as a extra proscedure | 00:04 |
| MangaKaDenza | wihu, so for the .sh file | 00:05 |
| MangaKaDenza | wihu, you are the sudoer on you machine right? | 00:05 |
| MangaKaDenza | the "admin" or "root" ? | 00:05 |
| wihu | jepp | 00:05 |
| wihu | or yes | 00:06 |
| MangaKaDenza | wihu, so... you know the full path to the file? | 00:06 |
| MangaKaDenza | like | 00:06 |
| wihu | yes | 00:06 |
| MangaKaDenza | chmod +x /home/thatdirectory/setup.sh | 00:06 |
| MangaKaDenza | but with the actual path | 00:06 |
| MangaKaDenza | then it should run | 00:06 |
| MangaKaDenza | in terminal of course | 00:06 |
| wihu | ok ill try it directly | 00:06 |
| MangaKaDenza | also if you're going to run it regularly | 00:07 |
| MangaKaDenza | ln -s /home/thatdirectory/setup.sh /usr/bin | 00:07 |
| MangaKaDenza | but if its just one time | 00:07 |
| MangaKaDenza | just do the path | 00:07 |
| wihu | im will probebly run it everyday | 00:07 |
| MangaKaDenza | ah if you're doing the ./somefile method, you need to be in the directory of the file | 00:08 |
| MangaKaDenza | so... if /home/thatdirectory has the setup.sh | 00:08 |
| MangaKaDenza | you can do ./setup.sh | 00:08 |
| MangaKaDenza | otherwise you need the whole line | 00:08 |
| wihu | hmm | 00:08 |
| wihu | i tried the chmod commando | 00:09 |
| wihu | but no resluts | 00:09 |
| MangaKaDenza | chmod doesn't print anything per se... | 00:09 |
| wihu | aaa | 00:10 |
| MangaKaDenza | unless you make it verbose | 00:10 |
| wihu | okok, but im still not getting the installation to launch | 00:10 |
| MangaKaDenza | hmm | 00:10 |
| MangaKaDenza | what is this again? | 00:10 |
| wihu | its SAS 9.3 | 00:11 |
| MangaKaDenza | er, what program are you trying to run/compile/start | 00:11 |
| MangaKaDenza | SAS? | 00:11 |
| wihu | yes | 00:11 |
| wihu | SAS | 00:11 |
| MangaKaDenza | is that an acronym? | 00:11 |
| wihu | yes i belive so | 00:11 |
| wihu | hmm maby not, couse i never seen it beeing spelled out | 00:12 |
| ozzzy | let's see how 13.10 works | 00:12 |
| wihu | i have looked at different forums that did have similar problems but my knowlege is to weak to fully understand what i have to do | 00:13 |
| MangaKaDenza | sorry, client crash | 00:14 |
| MangaKaDenza | anyways | 00:14 |
| MangaKaDenza | http://www.sas.com/software/sas9/index.html <that it? | 00:14 |
| wihu | yes ! | 00:14 |
| wihu | i think you missed my previous remark | 00:15 |
| MangaKaDenza | hmm... I'm not very familiar with that... | 00:15 |
| MangaKaDenza | anyways... so chmod +x didn't work? | 00:15 |
| wihu | i have searched differnet forums and they have similar problems but my knowlage is a bit weak to understad fully what i need to do | 00:15 |
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| wihu | well after chmod i tried again | 00:16 |
| MangaKaDenza | wihu, what does the terminal say when you do setup.sh ? | 00:16 |
| wihu | but same problem | 00:16 |
| wihu | first | 00:16 |
| wihu | preparing the sasa devployemt wizard | 00:16 |
| wihu | then | 00:17 |
| MangaKaDenza | wihu, er | 00:17 |
| wihu | launching the sas develooment wizzard | 00:17 |
| wihu | then nothing | 00:17 |
| MangaKaDenza | if its a long output, use www.pastebin.com | 00:17 |
| MangaKaDenza | the exact output will be useful | 00:17 |
| wihu | modilinux@ubuntu:~/SAS$ cd modilinux@ubuntu:~$ chmod +x /home/modilinux/SAS/setup.sh modilinux@ubuntu:~$ sudo sh /home/modilinux/SAS/setup.sh Preparing the SAS Deployment Wizard... Launching the SAS Deployment Wizard... modilinux@ubuntu:~$ | 00:18 |
| MangaKaDenza | wihu, and no window pops up? | 00:19 |
| wihu | nope =/ | 00:19 |
| MangaKaDenza | wihu, just to eliminate all wrong possibilities.. | 00:19 |
| MangaKaDenza | do older versions work? | 00:19 |
| wihu | have not tried | 00:20 |
| wihu | first time trying linux | 00:20 |
| MangaKaDenza | er... older versions of SAS | 00:20 |
| wihu | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=641448&page=6 <--- same problem but i cant get it to work for me | 00:20 |
| wihu | in school we have linux and SAS so it should work | 00:21 |
| wihu | kubuntu and SAS 9.0 | 00:21 |
| MangaKaDenza | hm... | 00:23 |
| MangaKaDenza | wihu, alright... a random thing you might try.. | 00:23 |
| MangaKaDenza | often when I try to open a GUI based application in a terminal, it can't connect to the display | 00:23 |
| MangaKaDenza | so... wihu alt+f2 | 00:24 |
| MangaKaDenza | and in the little box, try the path | 00:24 |
| MangaKaDenza | just the path | 00:24 |
| MangaKaDenza | /home/somedir/setup.sh | 00:24 |
| MangaKaDenza | nothing before or after | 00:24 |
| wihu | trying to work out how to press f2 on my mac to make it work on kubuntu | 00:25 |
| MangaKaDenza | er... if that isn't working... | 00:25 |
| MangaKaDenza | wihu, is your application menu application launcher style, or classic style? | 00:26 |
| MangaKaDenza | if it has a text input panel in it, its the kind which basically does the same thing | 00:26 |
| MangaKaDenza | so just put the path into the textbar and enter | 00:26 |
| wihu | yepp | 00:27 |
| MangaKaDenza | so did that wokr? | 00:27 |
| MangaKaDenza | *work | 00:27 |
| wihu | yes i typed it in the run command with just that specifiks yuor wrote | 00:27 |
| wihu | and im in the folder | 00:27 |
| MangaKaDenza | wihu, one last thing I could reccomend, as I'm not familiar with the thing... | 00:28 |
| MangaKaDenza | wihu, open Dolphin | 00:28 |
| wihu | yepp | 00:29 |
| MangaKaDenza | navigate to the folder, and right click on setup.sh | 00:29 |
| wihu | yepp | 00:29 |
| MangaKaDenza | click on properties | 00:29 |
| wihu | yepp | 00:30 |
| MangaKaDenza | and click on permissions | 00:30 |
| wihu | done | 00:30 |
| MangaKaDenza | so... in the box that says "is executable" does it have a check in it? | 00:30 |
| wihu | yes it does | 00:30 |
| MangaKaDenza | alright, now close the window and just click on the file... | 00:31 |
| MangaKaDenza | if that doesn't work... idk... | 00:31 |
| MangaKaDenza | ask your school I guess | 00:32 |
| wihu | hmmm i would if it was legit | 00:32 |
| wihu | the sas copy | 00:32 |
| MangaKaDenza | :P | 00:32 |
| wihu | haha | 00:32 |
| MangaKaDenza | sorry... I'm not really familiar with it... | 00:32 |
| MangaKaDenza | so I just tried all the basics... | 00:33 |
| MangaKaDenza | well wait | 00:33 |
| wihu | no worries many thanx for trying | 00:33 |
| wihu | yes? | 00:33 |
| MangaKaDenza | try it with sudo | 00:33 |
| MangaKaDenza | because it might need sudo privs | 00:33 |
| wihu | hmm how does one use sudo ? | 00:33 |
| MangaKaDenza | sudo "somecommand/somepath" | 00:34 |
| wihu | sorry | 00:34 |
| MangaKaDenza | just put sudo before it | 00:34 |
| wihu | i was in sudo all time | 00:34 |
| MangaKaDenza | ah... | 00:34 |
| MangaKaDenza | well if it doesn't work with sudo... sorry | 00:34 |
| wihu | i think im missing something to runt the installation program | 00:34 |
| wihu | but many thanks for trying tho =) | 00:35 |
| MangaKaDenza | np | 00:36 |
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| soee | good morning | 07:11 |
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| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:26 |
| Taduro | good | 07:28 |
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| FloodBotK1 | !netsplit | 09:12 |
| ubottu | netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit | 09:12 |
| valorie | silly floodbots | 09:14 |
| Promethes | i am unable to browse samba shares when i am installing new network printer, browse button is grayed out | 10:05 |
| Promethes | also when i enable sharing printer over the network, this option reverts to disabled after couple of seconds | 10:07 |
| Promethes | kubuntu 13.10 is awfully broken release, there are so much things broken and/or not working. I wonder where this distribution go and what alternatives doi have | 10:09 |
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| alvin | Promethes: while there are some rough corners, samba browsing isn't one of them. Maybe you're missing some packages. | 10:26 |
| Promethes | alvin: samba browsing should be installed by default, btw. in dolphin i can browse samba shares without problems | 10:34 |
| apachelogger | printer share browsing is not present and in fact not even implemented, I have no idea why | 10:43 |
| alvin | Maybe it didn't fit on the ISO? No idea. I can't confirm because I'm using a remote cups server. Edit /etc/cups/client.conf, and done. | 10:45 |
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| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:43 |
| BluesKaj | having a tough time installing kubuntu on this new laptop, the UEFI / |BIOS settings are hit and miss | 12:49 |
| monkeyjuice | first time with uefi? ive not tryed it yet | 12:50 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, loyya researfch to do , seems to vary according to the mobo installed | 13:00 |
| BluesKaj | lots of | 13:00 |
| monkeyjuice | great when ya figure it out let me know lol save me doing it | 13:00 |
| BluesKaj | using kde for windows atm , wiped W8 and installed W7 | 13:01 |
| monkeyjuice | laptop came with w7 also? | 13:02 |
| BluesKaj | it came with W8.1 | 13:03 |
| BluesKaj | 6 partitions , believe it or not | 13:05 |
| monkeyjuice | how can that be? | 13:05 |
| monkeyjuice | strange | 13:05 |
| monkeyjuice | alot has changed then i guess | 13:06 |
| alvin | Windows needs 4 when using UEFI and GPT. Keep some space for Kubuntu (at least 2: root and swap) | 13:06 |
| BluesKaj | too late | 13:07 |
| BluesKaj | w7 needs only 2 | 13:10 |
| monkeyjuice | what kubuntu you loading ? | 13:10 |
| BluesKaj | Ive tried 13.04 to 14.04 , nothing loads past the try ubuntu screen | 13:11 |
| monkeyjuice | you turning ueft off then or what? | 13:12 |
| monkeyjuice | uefi | 13:12 |
| BluesKaj | I have EUFI enabled , since most forums suggest it will work with the nwer kubuntus | 13:12 |
| monkeyjuice | oh | 13:12 |
| BluesKaj | UEFI | 13:12 |
| monkeyjuice | ya that | 13:12 |
| BluesKaj | used legacy to install W7 | 13:13 |
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| BluesKaj | and i forgot to enable virtulizing so VB and VMs won't work ...kinda mucked things up for myself | 13:16 |
| BluesKaj | kde apps run nicely on W7 tho | 13:17 |
| soee | :} | 13:20 |
| soee | strange, as i said before on my dell i didnt experienced aby problems :) | 13:20 |
| alvin | They do? It has been a h | 13:20 |
| alvin | while since I tried. | 13:20 |
| alvin | Pure UEFI here. No problems with Kubuntu 13.10, but it needed a bit of searching for the right combination... Also, Windows doesn't actually show all partitions, but you can see them from Linux. | 13:21 |
| soee | just bought, resized main partition, created 2 new partitions (for / and home), reboot install Kubuntu, be happy :D | 13:21 |
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| BluesKaj | haven't tried gparted live cd or a bootable image on usb yet , guess that's my next attempt | 13:25 |
| BluesKaj | alvin: so what combination did you use , do recall ? | 13:26 |
| BluesKaj | you | 13:26 |
| alvin | BluesKaj: It's an ASUS motherboard. There were 2 settings in the 'BIOS' (well...) 'UEFI only', and then a very interesing one. You could choose "UEFI first, then legacy oprom", "UEFI first", and two others. Don't ask me what the difference is.... I set it to "UEFI first". After that, there's no "legacy BIOS". I UEFI booted the Windows installer, and installed. Then, I resized the disk (from within Windows 8.1) to make room for Kubuntu. After | 13:29 |
| alvin | that, I booted the Kubuntu installer, installed on that part and put the boot loader on /dev/sda. Now, your UEFI will want to boot Windows only, and you will NOT see grub and NOT get a choice. So, I changed the UEFI thing (BIOS) to boot from the Kubuntu part. That shows the grub boot loader with all choices. | 13:29 |
| alvin | And all is well. | 13:29 |
| * BluesKaj nods , thanks alvin | 13:31 | |
| alvin | np | 13:31 |
| BluesKaj | okk , bbl | 13:32 |
| alvin | OH, a very important other thing. I do think I used a LiveCD to write a GPT disk label on the empty disk first. Just to be sure. | 13:32 |
| reagle | perhaps since my saucy upgrade, when I print 2 sheets on one page the rotation of the pages are off. | 13:38 |
| reagle | looks like this: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=61672 | 13:38 |
| reagle | (unlike that bug, this is across apps/desktop) | 13:38 |
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| BluesKaj | checking out unetbootin , maybe that will work | 14:32 |
| soee | did you tries USB stick to install ? | 14:33 |
| soee | *tried | 14:33 |
| BluesKaj | I'm about to , installing the image now | 14:36 |
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| Allah | !ops | 16:41 |
| ubottu | Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Hobbsee, Tm_T, Nalioth, Riddell, seth, imbrandon, gnomefreak, nixternal, ryanakca, mneptok, PriceChild, tsimpson, jussi, Pici, ikonia, genii, Mamarok, claydoh, maco, seele, Nightrose, JontheEnchidna, rgreening, or txwikinger | 16:41 |
| Riddell | Allah: how can we help you? | 16:41 |
| genii | Riddell: He's trolling a bunch of channels right now | 16:42 |
| Riddell | what larks | 16:42 |
| eagles0513875 | hey Riddell :) and anyone else in here. | 16:45 |
| eagles0513875 | basically 13.10 on my laptop has been nothing but really strange issues | 16:45 |
| eagles0513875 | first interesting issue is that of synaptics and my track pad. i have synaptics installed and tried to reinstall it and yet my track pad still does not work. I am getting ot my wits end on this situation :( | 16:46 |
| eagles0513875 | what can i do to potentially fix it and if its not possible I will file a bug report | 16:46 |
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| genii | eagles0513875: Does xinput command show it? | 17:03 |
| eagles0513875 | yes it does | 17:04 |
| eagles0513875 | elantech trackpad | 17:04 |
| eagles0513875 | genii: ^ | 17:04 |
| genii | Hm. | 17:04 |
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| eagles0513875 | genii: ill just file a bug unless you have any other ideas | 17:07 |
| genii | eagles0513875: I may, but just a bit busy right now | 17:07 |
| eagles0513875 | genii: ok no hurry we can work on it later | 17:07 |
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| Trel_mobile | I think I may have found a bug with the kdm package. Can anyone test something to see if it's just me? | 19:15 |
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| dougl | Trel_mobile, ? | 20:11 |
| Trel_mobile | When I do apt-get install kdm, it uninstalls plasma-desktop (and a number of othet kde components), does it do that for you too? | 20:13 |
| Trel_mobile | On a fresh kubuntu install. | 20:13 |
| genii | lightdm-kde-greeter is new login, kdm is deprecated and soon unsupported | 20:13 |
| Trel_mobile | I dislike lightdm, hence why I installed kdm | 20:14 |
| Trel_mobile | But i have to reinstall plasma each time I do | 20:14 |
| dougl | Trel_mobile, I am quite happy with kde's config on my end I don't see the point in messing with my system... I will try it just to see the output if you want, I can pm my output... | 20:16 |
| dougl | what don't you like about lightdm? | 20:16 |
| * dougl pretends he knows the difference... | 20:17 | |
| Trel_mobile | Yes, you don't have to do the install, I just want to see if it marks a lot of kde components for removal for anyone else. | 20:17 |
| dougl | k | 20:17 |
| Trel_mobile | I have a long list, but some include certain configuration option, themes that exist for kdm but not lightdm, login style, and how it manages available sessions. | 20:18 |
| Trel_mobile | Frankly it doesn't really feel like part of kde either. | 20:18 |
| dougl | nope just kicks in to a kdm config screen that the only option I hav e is to say ok... knew I shouldn't have tried it - hope it did not fuck up my box | 20:19 |
| lordievader | Trel_mobile: That is because it is a Ubuntu thing ;) | 20:19 |
| Trel_mobile | Dougl it didn't even confirm which packages would get installed? That's a completely foreign behavior. | 20:20 |
| lordievader | Trel_mobile: And on Trusty it only installs kdm, doesn't remove or add anything else. | 20:20 |
| Trel_mobile | I'll load up a vm tonight and do more testing then. | 20:21 |
| robert_ancell | which package provides /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop? | 20:24 |
| genii | Probably kde-workspace-data | 20:26 |
| robert_ancell | genii, that's it, thanks! | 20:27 |
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| eagles0513875 | hey guys is there a kde ppa | 21:26 |
| eagles0513875 | !kde | 21:29 |
| ubottu | KDE (http://kde.org) is an open community that creates and maintains software including the Plasma desktop. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. | 21:29 |
| eagles0513875 | ok that doesnt help much | 21:29 |
| eagles0513875 | ook guys i dunno whats up but for some reason dolphin isnt even mounting my usb external hard disk | 21:29 |
| eagles0513875 | even using command line to try and mount it | 21:29 |
| eagles0513875 | wtf | 21:30 |
| eagles0513875 | kde partition application is saying its got no partitions :O | 21:30 |
| eagles0513875 | and i have all my music on there wtf | 21:30 |
| dougl | eagles0513875, what kind of partition is on there? | 21:33 |
| eagles0513875 | dougl: ntfs | 21:33 |
| eagles0513875 | and now gparted and the kde partition programs are showing nothing at all | 21:33 |
| eagles0513875 | and i had this plugged in earlier today and everythign was fine | 21:33 |
| dougl | ok... there is something you need to do for ntfs... what did you try to mount it from the cli? | 21:34 |
| eagles0513875 | dougl: yes | 21:34 |
| eagles0513875 | but it said it wasnt in fstab or mtab | 21:34 |
| eagles0513875 | im goign ot try mout it in a windows vm i have on here | 21:34 |
| eagles0513875 | dougl: never had to do anything | 21:35 |
| eagles0513875 | i do know that for me 13.10 has been very buggy | 21:35 |
| eagles0513875 | on this laptop | 21:35 |
| eagles0513875 | do you know if there is a kubuntu kde ppa | 21:35 |
| dougl | well lets do a manual mount then we can fix fstab later | 21:36 |
| crowell | eagles0513875: kde is officially in the repos, why do you want a PPA? | 21:36 |
| crowell | do you want the latest-and-greatest builds of KDE? | 21:36 |
| eagles0513875 | i already run project neon | 21:36 |
| eagles0513875 | but i have lots of issues with the version that comes in 13.10 | 21:36 |
| eagles0513875 | dougl: ok let me see if windows picks up the partition firstly | 21:37 |
| dougl | mount -t ntfs /dev/<whatever partition its> /mnt/<destination mount point> ... does that make sense to you eagles0513875 ? | 21:37 |
| eagles0513875 | ok | 21:37 |
| eagles0513875 | do i need to have a directory setup in the mount point | 21:37 |
| dougl | yes | 21:37 |
| dougl | I would do... | 21:38 |
| dougl | sudo mkdir /mnt/usbdrive | 21:38 |
| dougl | then... | 21:38 |
| dougl | mount -t ntfs /dev/<whatever partition its> /mnt/usbdrive | 21:39 |
| eagles0513875 | NTFS signature is missing. | 21:39 |
| eagles0513875 | is what i get when i run that command :( | 21:39 |
| * dougl googling | 21:39 | |
| eagles0513875 | dougl: do you know how i can mount said drive in a kvm based windows vm to see if the issue persists in windows | 21:41 |
| dougl | no i dont know... | 21:42 |
| eagles0513875 | no problem | 21:42 |
| dougl | lets chat in #ubuntu as the mounting issues have nothing to do with kde I don't think and #ubuntu is way more people to help us | 21:42 |
| eagles0513875 | ok | 21:43 |
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| Guest23901 | hi | 21:55 |
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| Usr_ | good evening. I try to install Kubuntu to my hdd, but installation always fails at "post-installation-trigger init-ramfs" | 22:27 |
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| Usr_ | any known solutions for this problem? | 22:32 |
| Usr_ | anyone here? | 22:37 |
| soee | Usr_: yes a lot of people | 22:38 |
| soee | i can't help you i bever experienced such problem | 22:38 |
| Usr_ | could this be caused because of a too small /boot partition? | 22:40 |
| Usr_ | i don't find any recommendations about the prefered size... | 22:40 |
| genii | Conceivably. However, the initrd doesn't occupy a lot of space, really. | 22:41 |
| Usr_ | it has 100 MB | 22:41 |
| Usr_ | does it require an own boot partition? | 22:41 |
| Usr_ | when i use the auto-partitioner, it would format an whole harddisc... | 22:42 |
| Usr_ | And for the manual partitioning, it doesn't recomends anything | 22:42 |
| genii | Usr_: If you are using a common filesystem like ext2/3/4 doesn't really need it's own separate /boot ... but some fs that you might want to use for root fs like reiser/btrfs/xfs or so on need a separate ext2/3/4 /boot partition | 22:43 |
| Usr_ | i want to use ext4 | 22:43 |
| soee | so i suggest 2 partition, 1 for / and 2 for /home :) | 22:43 |
| soee | GRUB is going to be installed on first one | 22:44 |
| soee | also verify your image if is ok | 22:44 |
| Usr_ | With the check imideately after booting from it? | 22:45 |
| Usr_ | i did, it is ok | 22:45 |
| Usr_ | when i tried installing the first time, it offered to use the free space on my hard disk to install it there. from the 2nd try, i can only choose "use entire disc" or manual | 22:46 |
| Usr_ | the disk has ~295GB free space | 22:46 |
| Usr_ | oh... number of partitions on a disc is limited, right? | 22:48 |
| genii | 4 primary max, yes | 22:49 |
| Usr_ | maybe that's the problem | 22:50 |
| genii | Can't boot off an extended partition also | 22:50 |
| Usr_ | do i need a swap-partition when i don't want to suspend to disc? | 22:52 |
| genii | Usr_: It's usually good to have even if you don't want to suspend, since it could get used for other things like when the computer is doing something intensive using a lot of ram | 22:59 |
| Usr_ | is the checkbox for "install updates during installation" inverted? oO | 23:00 |
| Usr_ | This time i didn't checked it and it downloads a lot. Before i checked it, and it didn't download anything | 23:00 |
| Usr_ | (but the language packs) | 23:00 |
| Usr_ | this time it worked oO | 23:05 |
| Usr_ | thx for your help | 23:05 |
| rberg | seems like no matter how much ram I have 5MB or so always gets swapped out | 23:05 |
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