[00:01] <MangaKaDenza> wihu, still here?
[00:02] <wihu> yes
[00:02] <julian_> Hello...
[00:03] <wihu> but im still trying to figure out kubuntu keybord so maby my answers will sound a bit retarded
[00:04] <wihu> I just installed java, just as a extra proscedure
[00:05] <MangaKaDenza> wihu, so for the .sh file
[00:05] <MangaKaDenza> wihu, you are the sudoer on you machine right?
[00:05] <MangaKaDenza> the "admin" or "root" ?
[00:05] <wihu> jepp
[00:06] <wihu> or yes
[00:06] <MangaKaDenza> wihu, so... you know the full path to the file?
[00:06] <MangaKaDenza> like
[00:06] <wihu> yes
[00:06] <MangaKaDenza> chmod +x  /home/thatdirectory/setup.sh
[00:06] <MangaKaDenza> but with the actual path
[00:06] <MangaKaDenza> then it should run
[00:06] <MangaKaDenza> in terminal of course
[00:06] <wihu> ok ill try it directly
[00:07] <MangaKaDenza> also if you're going to run it regularly
[00:07] <MangaKaDenza> ln -s /home/thatdirectory/setup.sh /usr/bin
[00:07] <MangaKaDenza> but if its just one time
[00:07] <MangaKaDenza> just do the path
[00:07] <wihu> im will probebly run it everyday
[00:08] <MangaKaDenza> ah if you're doing the ./somefile method, you need to be in the directory of the file
[00:08] <MangaKaDenza> so... if /home/thatdirectory has the setup.sh
[00:08] <MangaKaDenza> you can do ./setup.sh
[00:08] <MangaKaDenza> otherwise you need the whole line
[00:08] <wihu> hmm
[00:09] <wihu> i tried the chmod commando
[00:09] <wihu> but no resluts
[00:09] <MangaKaDenza> chmod doesn't print anything per se...
[00:10] <wihu> aaa
[00:10] <MangaKaDenza> unless you make it verbose
[00:10] <wihu> okok, but im still not getting the installation to launch
[00:10] <MangaKaDenza> hmm
[00:10] <MangaKaDenza> what is this again?
[00:11] <wihu> its SAS 9.3
[00:11] <MangaKaDenza> er, what program are you trying to run/compile/start
[00:11] <MangaKaDenza> SAS?
[00:11] <wihu> yes
[00:11] <wihu> SAS
[00:11] <MangaKaDenza> is that an acronym?
[00:11] <wihu> yes i belive so
[00:12] <wihu> hmm maby not, couse i never seen it beeing spelled out
[00:12] <ozzzy> let's see how 13.10 works
[00:13] <wihu> i have looked at different forums that did have similar problems but my knowlege is to weak to fully understand what i have to do
[00:14] <MangaKaDenza> sorry, client crash
[00:14] <MangaKaDenza> anyways
[00:14] <MangaKaDenza> http://www.sas.com/software/sas9/index.html <that it?
[00:14] <wihu> yes !
[00:15] <wihu> i think you missed my previous remark
[00:15] <MangaKaDenza> hmm... I'm not very familiar with that...
[00:15] <MangaKaDenza> anyways... so chmod +x didn't work?
[00:15] <wihu> i have searched differnet forums and they have similar problems but my knowlage is a bit weak to understad fully what i need to do
[00:16] <wihu> well after chmod i tried again
[00:16] <MangaKaDenza> wihu, what does the terminal say when you do setup.sh ?
[00:16] <wihu> but same problem
[00:16] <wihu> first
[00:16] <wihu> preparing the sasa devployemt wizard
[00:17] <wihu> then
[00:17] <MangaKaDenza> wihu, er
[00:17] <wihu> launching the sas develooment wizzard
[00:17] <wihu> then nothing
[00:17] <MangaKaDenza> if its a long output, use www.pastebin.com
[00:17] <MangaKaDenza> the exact output will be useful
[00:18] <wihu> modilinux@ubuntu:~/SAS$ cd modilinux@ubuntu:~$ chmod +x /home/modilinux/SAS/setup.sh modilinux@ubuntu:~$ sudo sh /home/modilinux/SAS/setup.sh Preparing the SAS Deployment Wizard... Launching the SAS Deployment Wizard... modilinux@ubuntu:~$
[00:19] <MangaKaDenza> wihu, and no window pops up?
[00:19] <wihu> nope =/
[00:19] <MangaKaDenza> wihu, just to eliminate all wrong possibilities..
[00:19] <MangaKaDenza> do older versions work?
[00:20] <wihu> have not tried
[00:20] <wihu> first time trying linux
[00:20] <MangaKaDenza> er... older versions of SAS
[00:20] <wihu> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=641448&page=6 <--- same problem but i cant get it to work for me
[00:21] <wihu> in school we have linux and SAS so it should work
[00:21] <wihu> kubuntu and SAS 9.0
[00:23] <MangaKaDenza> hm...
[00:23] <MangaKaDenza> wihu, alright... a random thing you might try..
[00:23] <MangaKaDenza> often when I try to open a GUI based application in a terminal, it can't connect to the display
[00:24] <MangaKaDenza> so... wihu alt+f2
[00:24] <MangaKaDenza> and in the little box, try the path
[00:24] <MangaKaDenza> just the path
[00:24] <MangaKaDenza> /home/somedir/setup.sh
[00:24] <MangaKaDenza> nothing before or after
[00:25] <wihu> trying to work out how to press f2 on my mac to make it work on kubuntu
[00:25] <MangaKaDenza> er... if that isn't working...
[00:26] <MangaKaDenza> wihu, is your application menu application launcher style, or classic style?
[00:26] <MangaKaDenza> if it has a text input panel in it, its the kind which basically does the same thing
[00:26] <MangaKaDenza> so just put the path into the textbar and enter
[00:27] <wihu> yepp
[00:27] <MangaKaDenza> so did that wokr?
[00:27] <MangaKaDenza> *work
[00:27] <wihu> yes i typed it in the run command with just that specifiks yuor wrote
[00:27] <wihu> and im in the folder
[00:28] <MangaKaDenza> wihu, one last thing I could reccomend, as I'm not familiar with the thing...
[00:28] <MangaKaDenza> wihu, open Dolphin
[00:29] <wihu> yepp
[00:29] <MangaKaDenza> navigate to the folder, and right click on setup.sh
[00:29] <wihu> yepp
[00:29] <MangaKaDenza> click on properties
[00:30] <wihu> yepp
[00:30] <MangaKaDenza> and click on permissions
[00:30] <wihu> done
[00:30] <MangaKaDenza> so... in the box that says "is executable" does it have a check in it?
[00:30] <wihu> yes it does
[00:31] <MangaKaDenza> alright, now close the window and just click on the file...
[00:31] <MangaKaDenza> if that doesn't work... idk...
[00:32] <MangaKaDenza> ask your school I guess
[00:32] <wihu> hmmm i would if it was legit
[00:32] <wihu> the sas copy
[00:32] <MangaKaDenza> :P
[00:32] <wihu> haha
[00:32] <MangaKaDenza> sorry... I'm not really familiar with it...
[00:33] <MangaKaDenza> so I just tried all the basics...
[00:33] <MangaKaDenza> well wait
[00:33] <wihu> no worries many thanx for trying
[00:33] <wihu> yes?
[00:33] <MangaKaDenza> try it with sudo
[00:33] <MangaKaDenza> because it might need sudo privs
[00:33] <wihu> hmm how does one use sudo ?
[00:34] <MangaKaDenza> sudo "somecommand/somepath"
[00:34] <wihu> sorry
[00:34] <MangaKaDenza> just put sudo before it
[00:34] <wihu> i was in sudo all time
[00:34] <MangaKaDenza> ah...
[00:34] <MangaKaDenza> well if it doesn't work with sudo... sorry
[00:34] <wihu> i think im missing something to runt the installation program
[00:35] <wihu> but many thanks for trying tho =)
[00:36] <MangaKaDenza> np
[07:11] <soee> good morning
[07:26] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:28] <Taduro> good
[09:12] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[09:14] <valorie> silly floodbots
[10:05] <Promethes> i am unable to browse samba shares when i am installing new network printer, browse button is grayed out
[10:07] <Promethes> also when i enable sharing printer over the network, this option reverts to disabled after couple of seconds
[10:09] <Promethes> kubuntu 13.10 is awfully broken release, there are so much things broken and/or not working. I wonder where this distribution go and what alternatives doi have
[10:26] <alvin> Promethes: while there are some rough corners, samba browsing isn't one of them. Maybe you're missing some packages.
[10:34] <Promethes> alvin: samba browsing should be installed by default, btw. in dolphin i can browse samba shares without problems
[10:43] <apachelogger> printer share browsing is not present and in fact not even implemented, I have no idea why
[10:45] <alvin> Maybe it didn't fit on the ISO? No idea. I can't confirm because I'm using a remote cups server. Edit /etc/cups/client.conf, and done.
[12:43] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:49] <BluesKaj> having a tough time installing kubuntu on this new laptop, the UEFI / |BIOS settings are hit and miss
[12:50] <monkeyjuice> first time with uefi?  ive not tryed it yet
[13:00] <BluesKaj> yeah, loyya researfch to do , seems to vary according to the mobo installed
[13:00] <BluesKaj> lots of
[13:00] <monkeyjuice> great when ya figure it out let me know lol save me doing it
[13:01] <BluesKaj> using kde for windows atm , wiped W8 and installed W7
[13:02] <monkeyjuice> laptop came with w7 also?
[13:03] <BluesKaj> it came with W8.1
[13:05] <BluesKaj> 6 partitions , believe it or not
[13:05] <monkeyjuice> how can that be?
[13:05] <monkeyjuice> strange
[13:06] <monkeyjuice> alot has changed then i guess
[13:06] <alvin> Windows needs 4 when using UEFI and GPT. Keep some space for Kubuntu (at least 2: root and swap)
[13:07] <BluesKaj> too late
[13:10] <BluesKaj> w7 needs only 2
[13:10] <monkeyjuice> what kubuntu you loading ?
[13:11] <BluesKaj> Ive tried 13.04 to 14.04 , nothing loads past the try ubuntu screen
[13:12] <monkeyjuice> you turning ueft off then or what?
[13:12] <monkeyjuice> uefi
[13:12] <BluesKaj> I have EUFI enabled , since most forums suggest it will work with the nwer kubuntus
[13:12] <monkeyjuice> oh
[13:12] <BluesKaj> UEFI
[13:12] <monkeyjuice> ya that
[13:13] <BluesKaj> used legacy to install W7
[13:16] <BluesKaj> and i forgot to enable virtulizing so VB and VMs won't work ...kinda mucked things up for myself
[13:17] <BluesKaj> kde apps run nicely on W7 tho
[13:20] <soee> :}
[13:20] <soee> strange, as i said before on my dell i didnt experienced aby problems :)
[13:20] <alvin> They do? It has been a h
[13:20] <alvin> while since I tried.
[13:21] <alvin> Pure UEFI here. No problems with Kubuntu 13.10, but it needed a bit of searching for the right combination... Also, Windows doesn't actually show all partitions, but you can see them from Linux.
[13:21] <soee> just bought, resized main partition, created 2 new partitions (for / and home), reboot install Kubuntu, be happy :D
[13:25] <BluesKaj> haven't tried gparted live cd or a bootable image on usb yet , guess that's my next attempt
[13:26] <BluesKaj> alvin: so what combination did you use , do recall ?
[13:26] <BluesKaj> you
[13:29] <alvin> BluesKaj: It's an ASUS motherboard. There were 2 settings in the 'BIOS' (well...) 'UEFI only', and then a very interesing one. You could choose "UEFI first, then legacy oprom", "UEFI first", and two others. Don't ask me what the difference is.... I set it to "UEFI first". After that, there's no "legacy BIOS". I UEFI booted the Windows installer, and installed. Then, I resized the disk (from within Windows 8.1) to make room for Kubuntu. After
[13:29] <alvin> that, I booted the Kubuntu installer, installed on that part and put the boot loader on /dev/sda. Now, your UEFI will want to boot Windows only, and you will NOT see grub and NOT get a choice. So, I changed the UEFI thing (BIOS) to boot from the Kubuntu part. That shows the grub boot loader with all choices.
[13:29] <alvin> And all is well.
[13:31]  * BluesKaj nods , thanks alvin
[13:31] <alvin> np
[13:32] <BluesKaj> okk , bbl
[13:32] <alvin> OH, a very important other thing. I do think I used a LiveCD to write a GPT disk label on the empty disk first. Just to be sure.
[13:38] <reagle> perhaps since my saucy upgrade, when I print 2 sheets on one page the rotation of the pages are off.
[13:38] <reagle> looks like this: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=61672
[13:38] <reagle> (unlike that bug, this is across apps/desktop)
[14:32] <BluesKaj> checking out unetbootin , maybe that will work
[14:33] <soee> did you tries USB stick to install ?
[14:33] <soee> *tried
[14:36] <BluesKaj> I'm about to , installing the image now
[16:41] <Allah> !ops
[16:41] <Riddell> Allah: how can we help you?
[16:42] <genii> Riddell: He's trolling a bunch of channels right now
[16:42] <Riddell> what larks
[16:45] <eagles0513875> hey Riddell :) and anyone else in here.
[16:45] <eagles0513875> basically 13.10 on my laptop has been nothing  but really strange issues
[16:46] <eagles0513875> first interesting issue is that of synaptics and my track pad. i have synaptics installed and tried to reinstall it and yet my track pad still does not work. I am getting ot my wits end on this situation :(
[16:46] <eagles0513875> what can i do to potentially fix it and if its not possible I will file a bug report
[17:03] <genii> eagles0513875: Does xinput command show it?
[17:04] <eagles0513875> yes it does
[17:04] <eagles0513875> elantech trackpad
[17:04] <eagles0513875> genii: ^
[17:04] <genii> Hm.
[17:07] <eagles0513875> genii: ill just file a bug unless you have any other ideas
[17:07] <genii> eagles0513875: I may, but just a bit busy right now
[17:07] <eagles0513875> genii: ok  no hurry we can work on it later
[19:15] <Trel_mobile> I think I may have found a bug with the kdm package. Can anyone test something to see if it's just me?
[20:11] <dougl> Trel_mobile, ?
[20:13] <Trel_mobile> When I do apt-get install kdm, it uninstalls plasma-desktop (and a number of othet kde components), does it do that for you too?
[20:13] <Trel_mobile> On a fresh kubuntu install.
[20:13] <genii> lightdm-kde-greeter is new login, kdm is deprecated and soon unsupported
[20:14] <Trel_mobile> I dislike lightdm, hence why I installed kdm
[20:14] <Trel_mobile> But i have to reinstall plasma each time I do
[20:16] <dougl> Trel_mobile, I am quite happy with kde's config on my end I don't see the point in messing with my system... I will try it just to see the output if you want, I can pm my output...
[20:16] <dougl> what don't you like about lightdm?
[20:17]  * dougl pretends he knows the difference...
[20:17] <Trel_mobile> Yes, you don't have to do the install, I just want to see if it marks a lot of kde components for removal for anyone else.
[20:17] <dougl> k
[20:18] <Trel_mobile> I have a long list, but some include certain configuration option, themes that exist for kdm but not lightdm, login style, and how it manages available sessions.
[20:18] <Trel_mobile> Frankly it doesn't really feel like part of kde either.
[20:19] <dougl> nope just kicks in to a kdm config screen that the only option I hav e is to say ok... knew I shouldn't have tried it - hope it did not fuck up my box
[20:19] <lordievader> Trel_mobile: That is because it is a Ubuntu thing ;)
[20:20] <Trel_mobile> Dougl it didn't even confirm which packages would get installed? That's a completely foreign behavior.
[20:20] <lordievader> Trel_mobile: And on Trusty it only installs kdm, doesn't remove or add anything else.
[20:21] <Trel_mobile> I'll load up a vm tonight and do more testing then.
[20:24] <robert_ancell> which package provides /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop?
[20:26] <genii> Probably kde-workspace-data
[20:27] <robert_ancell> genii, that's it, thanks!
[21:26] <eagles0513875> hey guys is there a kde ppa
[21:29] <eagles0513875> !kde
[21:29] <eagles0513875> ok that doesnt help much
[21:29] <eagles0513875> ook guys i dunno whats up but for some reason dolphin isnt even mounting my usb external hard disk
[21:29] <eagles0513875> even using command line to try and mount it
[21:30] <eagles0513875> wtf
[21:30] <eagles0513875> kde partition application is saying its got no partitions :O
[21:30] <eagles0513875> and i have all my music on there wtf
[21:33] <dougl> eagles0513875, what kind of partition is on there?
[21:33] <eagles0513875> dougl: ntfs
[21:33] <eagles0513875> and now gparted and the kde partition programs are showing nothing at all
[21:33] <eagles0513875> and i had this plugged in earlier today and everythign was fine
[21:34] <dougl> ok... there is something you need to do for ntfs... what did you try to mount it from the cli?
[21:34] <eagles0513875> dougl: yes
[21:34] <eagles0513875> but it said it wasnt in fstab or mtab
[21:34] <eagles0513875> im goign ot try mout it in a windows vm i have on here
[21:35] <eagles0513875> dougl: never had to do anything
[21:35] <eagles0513875> i do know that for me 13.10 has been very buggy
[21:35] <eagles0513875> on this laptop
[21:35] <eagles0513875> do you know if there is a kubuntu kde ppa
[21:36] <dougl> well lets do a manual mount then we can fix fstab later
[21:36] <crowell> eagles0513875: kde is officially in the repos, why do you want a PPA?
[21:36] <crowell> do you want the latest-and-greatest builds of KDE?
[21:36] <eagles0513875> i already run project neon
[21:36] <eagles0513875> but i have lots of issues with the version that comes in 13.10
[21:37] <eagles0513875> dougl: ok let me see if windows picks up the partition firstly
[21:37] <dougl> mount -t ntfs /dev/<whatever partition its> /mnt/<destination mount point>  ... does that make sense to you eagles0513875 ?
[21:37] <eagles0513875> ok
[21:37] <eagles0513875> do i need to have a directory setup in the mount point
[21:37] <dougl> yes
[21:38] <dougl> I would do...
[21:38] <dougl> sudo mkdir /mnt/usbdrive
[21:38] <dougl> then...
[21:39] <dougl> mount -t ntfs /dev/<whatever partition its> /mnt/usbdrive
[21:39] <eagles0513875> NTFS signature is missing.
[21:39] <eagles0513875> is what i get when i run that command :(
[21:39]  * dougl googling
[21:41] <eagles0513875> dougl: do you know how i can mount said drive in a kvm based windows vm to see if the issue persists in windows
[21:42] <dougl> no i dont know...
[21:42] <eagles0513875> no problem
[21:42] <dougl> lets chat in #ubuntu as the mounting issues have nothing to do with kde I don't think and #ubuntu is way more people to help us
[21:43] <eagles0513875> ok
[21:55] <Guest23901> hi
[22:27] <Usr_> good evening. I try to install Kubuntu to my hdd, but installation always fails at "post-installation-trigger init-ramfs"
[22:32] <Usr_> any known solutions for this problem?
[22:37] <Usr_> anyone here?
[22:38] <soee> Usr_: yes a lot of people
[22:38] <soee> i can't help you i bever experienced such problem
[22:40] <Usr_> could this be caused because of a too small /boot partition?
[22:40] <Usr_> i don't find any recommendations about the prefered size...
[22:41] <genii> Conceivably. However, the initrd doesn't occupy a lot of space, really.
[22:41] <Usr_> it has 100 MB
[22:41] <Usr_> does it require an own boot partition?
[22:42] <Usr_> when i use the auto-partitioner, it would format an whole harddisc...
[22:42] <Usr_> And for the manual partitioning, it doesn't recomends anything
[22:43] <genii> Usr_: If you are using a common filesystem like ext2/3/4 doesn't really need it's own separate /boot ... but some fs that you might want to use for root fs like reiser/btrfs/xfs or so on need a separate ext2/3/4 /boot partition
[22:43] <Usr_> i want to use ext4
[22:43] <soee> so i suggest 2 partition, 1 for / and 2 for /home :)
[22:44] <soee> GRUB is going to be installed on first one
[22:44] <soee> also verify your image if is ok
[22:45] <Usr_> With the check imideately after booting from it?
[22:45] <Usr_> i did, it is ok
[22:46] <Usr_> when i tried installing the first time, it offered to use the free space on my hard disk to install it there. from the 2nd try, i can only choose "use entire disc" or manual
[22:46] <Usr_> the disk has ~295GB free space
[22:48] <Usr_> oh... number of partitions on a disc is limited, right?
[22:49] <genii> 4 primary max, yes
[22:50] <Usr_> maybe that's the problem
[22:50] <genii> Can't boot off an extended partition also
[22:52] <Usr_> do i need a swap-partition when i don't want to suspend to disc?
[22:59] <genii> Usr_: It's usually good to have even if you don't want to suspend, since it could get used for other things like when the computer is doing something intensive using a lot of ram
[23:00] <Usr_> is the checkbox for "install updates during installation" inverted? oO
[23:00] <Usr_> This time i didn't checked it and it downloads a lot. Before i checked it, and it didn't download anything
[23:00] <Usr_> (but the language packs)
[23:05] <Usr_> this time it worked oO
[23:05] <Usr_> thx for your help
[23:05] <rberg> seems like no matter how much ram I have 5MB or so always gets swapped out