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[10:05] <psivaa> cjwatson: xnox_ : curious if you have any updates/ comments on bug 1256695 ?
[10:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1256695 in rsyslog (Ubuntu) "Trusty desktop Installation logs are not copied to /var/log/installer/" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1256695
[10:06] <cjwatson> psivaa: I started looking last night but had to download a fresh image first
[10:06] <cjwatson> psivaa: so about to look at it now
[10:07] <psivaa> cjwatson: ack, thanks
[10:21] <cjwatson> psivaa: my god, this is a hell of a diff to work through
[10:22] <cjwatson> 5.8.11-2ubuntu4 -> 7.4.4-1ubuntu1
[10:22] <psivaa> cjwatson: yea :), it was a big leap
[10:25] <psivaa> cjwatson: backing out to the old version to save time is fine by me if bisecting it will take long
[10:26] <cjwatson> I have no interest in attempting to back out across two upstream versions
[10:27] <cjwatson> this regression is now five days old, so there is no sense in a panicky reversion when I'm sure we can fix it in a more measured way
[10:29] <psivaa> cjwatson: ack
[10:32] <cjwatson> ah, we need to adjust for the removal of v3 compatibility mode
[10:35] <cjwatson> maybe
[10:41] <cjwatson> no, I think it's actually a privilege-dropping problem
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[13:28] <jibel> on Trusty I'm unable to create an EFI partition during installation with d-i. I filed bug 1257702
[13:28] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1257702 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Disk partitioning fails to create EFI partition on Trusty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1257702
[13:28] <jibel> It works fine on 13.10
[13:30] <cjwatson> jibel: hm, nothing much useful in the logs :-(
[13:30] <cjwatson> dosfstools has changed
[13:31] <jibel> cjwatson, indeed :( Is there anything else I can collect?
[13:31] <cjwatson> jibel: don't think so
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[14:37] <cjwatson> jibel: fixes uploaded, dosfstools maintainer cursed for renaming programs under my feet
[14:45] <randnr4> hello, is this possible: boot 12.04 live usb (desktop x86) and (execute a script to) do unattended install? I created live usb from desktop live iso with usb-creator-gtk. I've tried preseed, kickstart, ubiquity preseed... Live usb is ok, the need is to have only one usb image and independent of hardware
[14:47] <xnox_> randnr4: yes it is possible, there are some ubiquity specific preseed keys that need to be set: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbiquityAutomation
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[14:48] <randnr4> yes, I've seen that one, and six hundred other docs and blogs etc. I havent succeeded trying to build/modify work out from any of them.
[14:50] <randnr4> for example, if i write a preseed file, assuming i write one that actually works. is it just command "ubiquity --desktop preseed.conf gtk_ui"  as an example?
[14:52] <randnr4> i'm not quite a newbie but really feel like one about this.
[14:53] <xnox> randnr4: no, one modifies boot parameter (kernel cmdline - F4 during cd boot at "Burning Man / a11y" logo) to specify - "automatic-ubiquity" then ubiquity will operate in an unattended mode, otherwise it will still ask to compare each step.
[14:53] <xnox> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopCDOptions
[14:54] <xnox> randnr4: here is default "Ubuntu Desktop" unattended preseed - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-test-case-dev/ubuntu-test-cases/desktop/view/head:/preseeds/default.cfg
[14:54] <xnox> randnr4: here are jenkins results https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise/view/ISO%20Testing%20Dashboard/job/precise-desktop-amd64_default/
[14:56] <xnox> randnr4: i recommend using images from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/precise/daily-live/current/ they are guaranteed to be latest spin of ubuntu (with all Stable Release Updates) and it has been validated by automatic jenkins jobs, that automated installs work.
[14:58] <jibel> cjwatson, thank you, I'll retry with next build.
[14:58] <randnr4> Must be 12.04 at work. And ad integration etc on top, later. I can script that but need to solve the unattended install first.
[14:58] <randnr4> xnox: thanx for the links. will read up and come back for more later :)
[15:01] <xnox> randnr4: it is precise.... if you prefer choose point release images as needed.
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[19:17] <bdmurray> xnox: there is more than one installer failure due to a package conflict with console-setup-linux and wheezy sources on the cdrom some how.  Do you have any ideas about this?
[19:30] <xnox> bdmurray: i'm not sure, there is always /etc/debian_version file which at the moment still defines us "wheezy/sid" (well derived from)
[19:31] <xnox> bdmurray: but the sources from wheezy shouldn't be used in any way, unless something started doing that based on /etc/debian_version.
[19:32] <bdmurray> bug 1247099 is an example
[19:32] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1247099 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "this crashed during ubuntu installation from memory stick prepared using these instructions: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1247099
[19:32] <bdmurray> Nov  1 13:17:41 ubuntu apt-setup: deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 13.10 _Saucy Salamander_ - Release amd64 (20131016.1)]/ jessie contrib main
[19:32] <bdmurray> that's the odd part I noticed
[19:33] <bdmurray> some other bugs reference wheezy as I mentioned
[19:35] <bdmurray> or is that a reinstall of Ubuntu and the jessie bit is from the installed system?
[19:36] <cjwatson> IIRC that's unetbootin being rubbish
[19:36] <cjwatson> or some other similar build-me-a-USB-stick tool
[19:36] <cjwatson> in the past I'm pretty sure I've marked though invalid not-our-problem
[19:36] <cjwatson> *those
[19:36] <cjwatson> bug 1024827
[19:37] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1024827 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu installer crash can't overwrite compose.ARMSCII-8.inc" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1024827
[19:37] <xnox> cjwatson: hm. Is pendrive linux brain dead as well? since that's what tell people to use from Windows http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[19:37] <cjwatson> dunno
[19:37]  * xnox ponders now that windows started doing usb sticks maybe there is a built-in usb flashing utility.
[19:38] <bdmurray> I'm gonna test pendrive linux
[19:38] <bdmurray> since we link to it and all
[19:39] <cjwatson> that bug mentions problems if the drive had previously had Debian on it
[19:39] <xnox> .... cause we do apt-clone/restore ?! =/
[19:40] <bdmurray> got it, thanks!
[19:41] <cjwatson> xnox: I have a feeling that unetbootin might do its own apt-ftparchive or equivalent out of the union of whatever files happen to end up on the stick
[19:41] <cjwatson> the drive -> I mean the installation medium, here
[19:41] <xnox> ok, but we shouldn't add the clearly debian package pools in the generated CD sources.
[19:42] <cjwatson> *we* don't :-)
[19:42] <cjwatson> unetbootin => not ours
[19:43] <xnox> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/155564029/Casper.txt
[19:43] <xnox> are those entries not generated / parsed by us?
[20:47] <bdmurray> so the default for that pendrive linux installer is not to format the drive and then it'll leave a bunch of stuff leftover
[20:48] <bdmurray> briefly looking I have two versions of oem-config in /misc/cdrom/pool/main/u/ubiquity
[20:48] <bdmurray> and I have raring and saucy deb cdrom: entries in my sources.list file
[20:48] <xnox> =(
[21:40] <cjwatson> xnox: oh, hm, yeah, maybe casper could use some filtering there ... somehow
[21:40] <cjwatson> good catch
[21:40] <xnox> cjwatson: well, bdmurray spotted that it looks fishy.
[21:40] <cjwatson> collective praise :)