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rick_h_waf: widox https://plus.google.com/116120911388966791792/posts/Qm6tkbgyj9f01:17
rick_h_greg-g: if you get a chance, appreciate it if you could check the preference in the bookie FF extension to auto update. And see if it updates to 0.1a901:18
greg-gI think I've had it on?01:19
greg-glast update on the 27th01:19
rick_h_greg-g: yea, but it wouldn't auto update. It should show a version of 0.1a9 now01:21
rick_h_greg-g: hmm, but yea shows last updated 11/2601:22
rick_h_greg-g: so if you're already updated then nvm01:22
greg-ghttp://i.imgur.com/Okz5ZXO.png01:22
rick_h_greg-g: ok, so yea, one rev behind01:23
* greg-g nods01:23
rick_h_if you go to the top of the add-on window there's a drop down and you can pick 'check for updates'01:23
rick_h_next to the search box01:23
greg-gah, I was lookign for that!01:25
greg-gtada! autoupdated01:25
greg-ga9 is now there01:25
rick_h_woot!01:25
rick_h_yay for prelim review getting through finally!01:25
rick_h_hopefully now it'll start auto updating01:25
greg-g:) weee01:25
greg-gI hate this crap: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Diversity_Conference_2013_summary_drawings_-_day_1_part_1.jpg01:27
greg-gnot diversity, the stupid "visual documentation" trend01:28
greg-gstupid stupid stupid01:28
greg-gless information, but with effing colors01:28
widoxrick_h_: yay01:44
widoxit has a fancy screenshot and extra description junk now too01:44
rick_h_yea, should update those01:47
widoxhuh, so after it updated, its not showing the widget anymore01:50
rick_h_is it up top now?01:51
rick_h_in nightly the widget is up top and there's no add-on bar01:51
widoxnope01:52
rick_h_hmm, restart FF?01:52
widoxI've got v27.0a201:52
rick_h_add-on bar still visible?01:53
rick_h_just empty now?01:53
widoxyeah, visible but empty01:53
widoxrestart got it back. strange01:53
rick_h_:(01:53
rick_h_the thing even says on it that 'restart not required'01:54
widoxI didn't see anything in the browser console either01:54
widoxheh, yep01:54
cmaloneygreg-g: I blame Sprint for that nonsense.03:01
cmaloneyBut that's some bullshit.03:01
cmaloneyhttps://ting.com/devices/buy/nexus5-sim03:02
cmaloneyThis makes it better. :)03:02
cmaloneyANd frankly I wouldn't buy any phone from Sprint and expect it to work with Ting at the moment03:02
brouschWow. I've been using tablets so much that I have 256MB of updates waiting on my laptop03:06
brouschAnd I keep touching my screen :(03:10
greg-gcmaloney: weee, I picked up a SB touch for $300 tonight (only say something if that's a good used price for a mint condition unit, don't say anything if not)06:56
cmaloneygreg-g: That's awesome!13:24
cmaloneyI love the SB Touch13:24
cmaloneyIt's just an expensive device all around13:25
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cmaloneyMorning14:33
jrwrengreat morning14:34
cmaloneyhey hey, now let's not get crazy here.14:35
brouschWho wants some free cholesterol? Apparently I have too much14:35
cmaloneybrousch: Ugh14:35
jrwrenbrousch: stop eating all that sugar!14:36
cmaloneyIs there a connection between the two?14:41
brouschMy blood sugar is actually good. I keep an eye on that because diabeetus runs in my family15:03
rick_h__jrwren: I can't help but feel that the blog post you linked on the conference talks is a bunch of sour grapes15:09
jrwrendo you know justin?15:15
rick_h__jrwren: lightly, met him at a conference at detroit15:16
rick_h__jrwren: and follow him, we know some common folks15:16
jrwrenI've also never heard of it happening in the python community.15:16
jrwrenin the .NET community, it is rampant.15:16
jrwrenmore sycophants IMO15:16
rick_h__sure, but I'm missing the issue. Conference organizers want to put on a show, they need headliners. People that others will pay to come see.15:16
rick_h__People who's opinion nearly everyone respects and are leaders in the community15:17
rick_h__wtf is wrong with inviting them out personally?15:17
rick_h__if you want an even shot at things, go to unconferences15:17
rick_h__it's what they're about. All topic, no name15:17
rick_h__It reads whiny and doesn't acklowedge the issues facing a conference organizer at all. Guess what, lifes more than just being fair and from your pont of view. That blog post reads really annoyingly to me.15:18
rick_h__I can't help but think of Transformers whenever I see their logo https://twitter.com/GetBarley/status/40827118612541849616:36
jrwrenyou are right.16:40
jrwrenI think they key is the difference between an academic conference and a corporate sponsored professional conference16:40
jrwrenjustin seems to be looking for a more academic conference.16:41
cmaloney"Error establishing a database connection" is one of the reasons I hate shared hosting16:51
rick_h__jrwren: yea, even then an academic conference has the leaders of the field. The professors at the major research university on the topic, etc.16:52
rick_h__jrwren: but yea, sorry I'll calm down. :)16:52
rick_h__in the end, transparency isn't a bad thing16:52
rick_h__and maybe I jump to conclusions as I see his desire to get  in front of conferences as a suble marketing ploy for his business16:54
greg-gcmaloney: yeah, it works well, and I like the interface :)16:59
cmaloneygreg-g: Awesome.17:00
cmaloneyLMK if you have any questions about it.17:00
greg-gcmaloney: none so far..... welll17:00
greg-gcmaloney: adding favorites seems to be hard17:00
cmaloneyYeah, it's not particularly intuitive.17:01
greg-gspecifically, favorite net radio stations17:01
cmaloneyI usually use favorites for radio stations17:01
cmaloneyHere's how I do it.17:02
cmaloney1) Find the URL17:03
cmaloney(or alternately use the radio search)17:03
cmaloneygreg-g: Note: I use the web interface more than most. :)17:04
cmaloneyso I just mouse over the station and hit the [heart] button.17:04
cmaloneybrb17:06
* greg-g nods17:07
cmaloneyback17:33
cmaloneygreg-g: Nice thing too is you can set it to automatically scrobble to last.fm. :)17:35
cmaloneyor libre.fm if you're OK with mucking with your hosts file17:35
greg-gcmaloney: oh... can I haxor its host file somehow?17:36
greg-gssh?17:36
greg-g(I never did that for libre.fm, I'm a horrible neckbeard)17:36
cmaloneyYou'd do that for the server17:37
cmaloneybut yeah, it has ssh capability.17:37
greg-gohhhhh, it goes through eg my Synology NAS that is hosting Squeezeserver (or whatever its called)17:37
cmaloneyright17:38
greg-ghuh17:38
cmaloneyAnd you can have multiple servers if you want17:38
cmaloneybut the sb clients can only use one server at a time (iirc)17:38
cmaloneyor rather "library". ;)17:38
greg-gright17:39
greg-gand the mysqueezbox.com acts as a 'server' er 'library' if I didn't have my own17:39
greg-g, right?17:39
cmaloneyYep17:39
* greg-g nods17:39
cmaloneyand it handles the proprietary plugins like SiriusXM, Pandora, etc.17:40
cmaloneyThough not sure if they have a local version of Pandora with the latest build17:40
greg-git was funny, the guy who sold it to me was like "let me know if you have any questions, I've played with it a lot" and I thought "nah, I'll just bug craig" :)17:40
* cmaloney doesn't use Pandora17:40
greg-goh, I should probably install that for Carrie, she uses that17:40
cmaloneygreg-g: Hah. No worries. I'm really thrilled with this thing17:41
greg-ghah, this is awesome, I can see what they're listening to down there :)17:41
cmaloneyAlmost to the point where I'm starting to think about hoarding hardware so I'll have it if it breaks.17:41
cmaloneygreg-g: yeah17:41
cmaloneyand you can change it17:42
cmaloneyand if you really get frisky you could have it use RFID to change the radio when you get close to it.17:42
cmaloneyOr play the Imperial March when you get home from work. ;)17:43
greg-ghahaha17:43
cmaloneyBut yeah, I use ssh tunnel with squeezelite for work17:43
cmaloneyand use squeezelite on my home desktop17:44
cmaloneyall controlled by the web interface17:45
cmaloneyports you'll need to tunnel are 9000 and 348317:45
cmaloneyHaven't figured out how to get the SSH tunnel to work with a mobile phone though17:46
rick_h__juicessh supports tunnels on android17:47
cmaloneyYeah, so does connectbot17:47
cmaloneybut not sure what machinations to do to get the squeezebox clients to "just see it" when it's behind the ssh tunnel17:48
cmaloneyit being the server17:48
greg-gcmaloney: I have had the pandora plugin install on the server, according to the long list of checkboxes, but I don't see it on my web interface (haven't checked the touch, it's downstairs, and getting away from rowan for a second time in the morning is tough)... where would it be?17:49
cmaloneyMay need to restart the server to make it work17:50
cmaloney7.8 seems to require a command-line restart17:50
cmaloney7.7.3 and prior would prompt to restart it.17:50
greg-gcmaloney: so, it apparently was already installed on the server when I was futzing with it last week before I got the touch17:51
cmaloneyah, ok17:51
greg-glemme see...17:52
greg-gcmaloney: hmm, I added it (the pandora 'app') via mysb.com, activated it/logged in to pandora via the mysb.com interface, do I need to do anything like a 'force sync with mysb.com'?17:55
cmaloneyShouldn't need to17:55
greg-gI'll go check the touch in a bit... but it isn't showing up on the server web interface17:58
* greg-g goes back to real work, but this is sooo fun17:58
greg-g;)17:58
cmaloneyyeah, no kidding17:59
cmaloneyI think you need to activate it or some such nonsense.18:00
cmaloneyOh, and it looks like you need to also set the player settings to have it show on the home menu rather than the apps menu18:01
cmaloney?18:01
greg-gyeah, did that18:01
cmaloneyHm. I did a few server restarts in the interim18:02
cmaloneyOh lovely. It'll only work with hardwre players.18:02
cmaloneyOr you need to be a subscriber.18:02
greg-gso, it'll work if I'm standing at the touch, but I can't control it via the web?18:03
cmaloneyNo you should be able to control it via the web18:03
* greg-g restarts in a bit, when I know they aren't listening to it18:04
cmaloneyOK, here's what worked for me:18:04
cmaloneyinstalled plugin18:04
cmaloneyinstalled app on mysb18:04
cmaloneydid a few restarts, actiation code, changed my password18:04
cmaloneyand it seemed to work from that point18:04
greg-ghehe18:04
cmaloneythough it only would play on my touch, not my squeezelite client18:04
greg-ggotcha18:05
cmaloneyhttp://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/12/valve-joins-the-linux-foundation-ahead-of-steamos-launch/18:11
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jcastrowhat the hell19:32
jcastroyou can't CC license stuff on github?19:32
jcastronot available from the list19:32
cmaloneyIs it software?19:32
rick_h__yea, CC'ing software is generally a "there's better stuff for this out there"19:35
jcastrono, it's presentations19:35
jcastrobut people put all sorts of stuff on there19:35
jrwren'cept for CC019:37
jrwreni love me some CC0 code19:37
greg-gjcastro: what is stopping you from writing a LICENSE file?19:37
jrwrenand of course you can, there just isn't a selector for it on that github page. You can still commit a LICENSE and COPYING file19:38
greg-gthere's all kinds of non-FLOSS shit on github19:38
jrwrenwhat greg-g said19:38
jcastrosmoser, angular.js is the topic @ AACS tonight20:06
jcastrogreg-g, yeah I am just LAZY20:06
greg-gwell, I'm GLAD they don't allow CC license in their easy gui wizard thing20:07
greg-gthen we'd see too much CC-BY-NC shit on there labeled "open source" when it isn't20:08
* greg-g grumbles20:08
jcastroyeah, now that I think about it20:08
greg-gor, shudder, -ND20:08
greg-glike, wtf?!20:08
greg-gjcastro: also, just use the GPL for your preso, it'll be fine20:08
greg-g(seriously)20:08
jcastrolooks like github purposely left it out20:09
greg-gor MIT, whatever20:09
jcastrohttps://github.com/github/choosealicense.com/issues/3320:09
jcastroprobably for the same reasons you outlined20:09
greg-gand fuck, they replaced CC0 with a fucking crayon license?20:09
greg-git's "simpler" but it doesn't fucking do what people think it does20:10
greg-glicenses man, they make you swear20:10
jcastrowell20:10
greg-g("what people think it does that it doesn't" == work universaly)20:10
jcastrothat's why I have you hippies20:10
jcastroyou just tell me what to use20:11
greg-gGPL and be done20:11
greg-g:)20:11
jrwrenAGPL320:14
cmaloneyhttp://www.wtfpl.net/20:15
rick_h__bwuhahaha https://github.com/juju/jenkins-github-lander/pull/6 automated github landing ftw20:34
rick_h__I can't wait to get this cleaned up some more and put the bookie projects behind it.20:34
greg-gcmaloney: softsqueeze, squeezelite, squeezeplay, all need to be effing built from source?22:03
greg-gI ain't no gentoo user, man.22:03
cmaloneysoftsqueeze is Java-based22:45
cmaloneysqueezelite has source and binaries available22:45
greg-gok, so remove that from the list anyways ;)22:45
cmaloneysqueezeslave also has binaries available22:45
cmaloneyhttps://code.google.com/p/squeezelite/downloads/list22:45
greg-ggreg@x200s:~/Downloads$ chmod +x squeezelite-x86-6422:47
greg-ggreg@x200s:~/Downloads$ ./squeezelite-x86-6422:47
greg-g#hangs22:47
greg-gnothing22:47
cmaloneyIt's a daemon22:47
greg-gwell then22:47
greg-g:)22:47
cmaloneyone sec. Here's a script that i use22:47
cmaloneyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6522266/22:49
cmaloneyThat uses my local machine as it's server22:49
cmaloneybbiab22:50
greg-gcmaloney: whoa, this just came out yesterday? http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/index.php?ver=10.023:11
greg-gcmaloney: 'course, they changed the name23:13
cmaloneygreg-g: Don't use 10.023:34
greg-gheh, ok23:34
greg-gwasn't planning on it23:34
cmaloneyThat's for UE radios23:34
greg-ggotcha23:34
cmaloneyAnd yeah, the nightlies are... well... nightly. :)23:35

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