[01:17] <rick_h_> waf: widox https://plus.google.com/116120911388966791792/posts/Qm6tkbgyj9f
[01:18] <rick_h_> greg-g: if you get a chance, appreciate it if you could check the preference in the bookie FF extension to auto update. And see if it updates to 0.1a9
[01:19] <greg-g> I think I've had it on?
[01:19] <greg-g> last update on the 27th
[01:21] <rick_h_> greg-g: yea, but it wouldn't auto update. It should show a version of 0.1a9 now
[01:22] <rick_h_> greg-g: hmm, but yea shows last updated 11/26
[01:22] <rick_h_> greg-g: so if you're already updated then nvm
[01:22] <greg-g> http://i.imgur.com/Okz5ZXO.png
[01:23] <rick_h_> greg-g: ok, so yea, one rev behind
[01:23]  * greg-g nods
[01:23] <rick_h_> if you go to the top of the add-on window there's a drop down and you can pick 'check for updates'
[01:23] <rick_h_> next to the search box
[01:25] <greg-g> ah, I was lookign for that!
[01:25] <greg-g> tada! autoupdated
[01:25] <greg-g> a9 is now there
[01:25] <rick_h_> woot!
[01:25] <rick_h_> yay for prelim review getting through finally!
[01:25] <rick_h_> hopefully now it'll start auto updating
[01:25] <greg-g> :) weee
[01:27] <greg-g> I hate this crap: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Diversity_Conference_2013_summary_drawings_-_day_1_part_1.jpg
[01:28] <greg-g> not diversity, the stupid "visual documentation" trend
[01:28] <greg-g> stupid stupid stupid
[01:28] <greg-g> less information, but with effing colors
[01:44] <widox> rick_h_: yay
[01:44] <widox> it has a fancy screenshot and extra description junk now too
[01:47] <rick_h_> yea, should update those
[01:50] <widox> huh, so after it updated, its not showing the widget anymore
[01:51] <rick_h_> is it up top now?
[01:51] <rick_h_> in nightly the widget is up top and there's no add-on bar
[01:52] <widox> nope
[01:52] <rick_h_> hmm, restart FF?
[01:52] <widox> I've got v27.0a2
[01:53] <rick_h_> add-on bar still visible?
[01:53] <rick_h_> just empty now?
[01:53] <widox> yeah, visible but empty
[01:53] <widox> restart got it back. strange
[01:53] <rick_h_> :(
[01:54] <rick_h_> the thing even says on it that 'restart not required'
[01:54] <widox> I didn't see anything in the browser console either
[01:54] <widox> heh, yep
[03:01] <cmaloney> greg-g: I blame Sprint for that nonsense.
[03:01] <cmaloney> But that's some bullshit.
[03:02] <cmaloney> https://ting.com/devices/buy/nexus5-sim
[03:02] <cmaloney> This makes it better. :)
[03:02] <cmaloney> ANd frankly I wouldn't buy any phone from Sprint and expect it to work with Ting at the moment
[03:06] <brousch> Wow. I've been using tablets so much that I have 256MB of updates waiting on my laptop
[03:10] <brousch> And I keep touching my screen :(
[06:56] <greg-g> cmaloney: weee, I picked up a SB touch for $300 tonight (only say something if that's a good used price for a mint condition unit, don't say anything if not)
[13:24] <cmaloney> greg-g: That's awesome!
[13:24] <cmaloney> I love the SB Touch
[13:25] <cmaloney> It's just an expensive device all around
[14:33] <cmaloney> Morning
[14:34] <jrwren> great morning
[14:35] <cmaloney> hey hey, now let's not get crazy here.
[14:35] <brousch> Who wants some free cholesterol? Apparently I have too much
[14:35] <cmaloney> brousch: Ugh
[14:36] <jrwren> brousch: stop eating all that sugar!
[14:41] <cmaloney> Is there a connection between the two?
[15:03] <brousch> My blood sugar is actually good. I keep an eye on that because diabeetus runs in my family
[15:09] <rick_h__> jrwren: I can't help but feel that the blog post you linked on the conference talks is a bunch of sour grapes
[15:15] <jrwren> do you know justin?
[15:16] <rick_h__> jrwren: lightly, met him at a conference at detroit
[15:16] <rick_h__> jrwren: and follow him, we know some common folks
[15:16] <jrwren> I've also never heard of it happening in the python community.
[15:16] <jrwren> in the .NET community, it is rampant.
[15:16] <jrwren> more sycophants IMO
[15:16] <rick_h__> sure, but I'm missing the issue. Conference organizers want to put on a show, they need headliners. People that others will pay to come see.
[15:17] <rick_h__> People who's opinion nearly everyone respects and are leaders in the community
[15:17] <rick_h__> wtf is wrong with inviting them out personally?
[15:17] <rick_h__> if you want an even shot at things, go to unconferences
[15:17] <rick_h__> it's what they're about. All topic, no name
[15:18] <rick_h__> It reads whiny and doesn't acklowedge the issues facing a conference organizer at all. Guess what, lifes more than just being fair and from your pont of view. That blog post reads really annoyingly to me.
[16:36] <rick_h__> I can't help but think of Transformers whenever I see their logo https://twitter.com/GetBarley/status/408271186125418496
[16:40] <jrwren> you are right.
[16:40] <jrwren> I think they key is the difference between an academic conference and a corporate sponsored professional conference
[16:41] <jrwren> justin seems to be looking for a more academic conference.
[16:51] <cmaloney> "Error establishing a database connection" is one of the reasons I hate shared hosting
[16:52] <rick_h__> jrwren: yea, even then an academic conference has the leaders of the field. The professors at the major research university on the topic, etc.
[16:52] <rick_h__> jrwren: but yea, sorry I'll calm down. :)
[16:52] <rick_h__> in the end, transparency isn't a bad thing
[16:54] <rick_h__> and maybe I jump to conclusions as I see his desire to get  in front of conferences as a suble marketing ploy for his business
[16:59] <greg-g> cmaloney: yeah, it works well, and I like the interface :)
[17:00] <cmaloney> greg-g: Awesome.
[17:00] <cmaloney> LMK if you have any questions about it.
[17:00] <greg-g> cmaloney: none so far..... welll
[17:00] <greg-g> cmaloney: adding favorites seems to be hard
[17:01] <cmaloney> Yeah, it's not particularly intuitive.
[17:01] <greg-g> specifically, favorite net radio stations
[17:01] <cmaloney> I usually use favorites for radio stations
[17:02] <cmaloney> Here's how I do it.
[17:03] <cmaloney> 1) Find the URL
[17:03] <cmaloney> (or alternately use the radio search)
[17:04] <cmaloney> greg-g: Note: I use the web interface more than most. :)
[17:04] <cmaloney> so I just mouse over the station and hit the [heart] button.
[17:06] <cmaloney> brb
[17:07]  * greg-g nods
[17:33] <cmaloney> back
[17:35] <cmaloney> greg-g: Nice thing too is you can set it to automatically scrobble to last.fm. :)
[17:35] <cmaloney> or libre.fm if you're OK with mucking with your hosts file
[17:36] <greg-g> cmaloney: oh... can I haxor its host file somehow?
[17:36] <greg-g> ssh?
[17:36] <greg-g> (I never did that for libre.fm, I'm a horrible neckbeard)
[17:37] <cmaloney> You'd do that for the server
[17:37] <cmaloney> but yeah, it has ssh capability.
[17:37] <greg-g> ohhhhh, it goes through eg my Synology NAS that is hosting Squeezeserver (or whatever its called)
[17:38] <cmaloney> right
[17:38] <greg-g> huh
[17:38] <cmaloney> And you can have multiple servers if you want
[17:38] <cmaloney> but the sb clients can only use one server at a time (iirc)
[17:38] <cmaloney> or rather "library". ;)
[17:39] <greg-g> right
[17:39] <greg-g> and the mysqueezbox.com acts as a 'server' er 'library' if I didn't have my own
[17:39] <greg-g> , right?
[17:39] <cmaloney> Yep
[17:39]  * greg-g nods
[17:40] <cmaloney> and it handles the proprietary plugins like SiriusXM, Pandora, etc.
[17:40] <cmaloney> Though not sure if they have a local version of Pandora with the latest build
[17:40] <greg-g> it was funny, the guy who sold it to me was like "let me know if you have any questions, I've played with it a lot" and I thought "nah, I'll just bug craig" :)
[17:40]  * cmaloney doesn't use Pandora
[17:40] <greg-g> oh, I should probably install that for Carrie, she uses that
[17:41] <cmaloney> greg-g: Hah. No worries. I'm really thrilled with this thing
[17:41] <greg-g> hah, this is awesome, I can see what they're listening to down there :)
[17:41] <cmaloney> Almost to the point where I'm starting to think about hoarding hardware so I'll have it if it breaks.
[17:41] <cmaloney> greg-g: yeah
[17:42] <cmaloney> and you can change it
[17:42] <cmaloney> and if you really get frisky you could have it use RFID to change the radio when you get close to it.
[17:43] <cmaloney> Or play the Imperial March when you get home from work. ;)
[17:43] <greg-g> hahaha
[17:43] <cmaloney> But yeah, I use ssh tunnel with squeezelite for work
[17:44] <cmaloney> and use squeezelite on my home desktop
[17:45] <cmaloney> all controlled by the web interface
[17:45] <cmaloney> ports you'll need to tunnel are 9000 and 3483
[17:46] <cmaloney> Haven't figured out how to get the SSH tunnel to work with a mobile phone though
[17:47] <rick_h__> juicessh supports tunnels on android
[17:47] <cmaloney> Yeah, so does connectbot
[17:48] <cmaloney> but not sure what machinations to do to get the squeezebox clients to "just see it" when it's behind the ssh tunnel
[17:48] <cmaloney> it being the server
[17:49] <greg-g> cmaloney: I have had the pandora plugin install on the server, according to the long list of checkboxes, but I don't see it on my web interface (haven't checked the touch, it's downstairs, and getting away from rowan for a second time in the morning is tough)... where would it be?
[17:50] <cmaloney> May need to restart the server to make it work
[17:50] <cmaloney> 7.8 seems to require a command-line restart
[17:50] <cmaloney> 7.7.3 and prior would prompt to restart it.
[17:51] <greg-g> cmaloney: so, it apparently was already installed on the server when I was futzing with it last week before I got the touch
[17:51] <cmaloney> ah, ok
[17:52] <greg-g> lemme see...
[17:55] <greg-g> cmaloney: hmm, I added it (the pandora 'app') via mysb.com, activated it/logged in to pandora via the mysb.com interface, do I need to do anything like a 'force sync with mysb.com'?
[17:55] <cmaloney> Shouldn't need to
[17:58] <greg-g> I'll go check the touch in a bit... but it isn't showing up on the server web interface
[17:58]  * greg-g goes back to real work, but this is sooo fun
[17:58] <greg-g> ;)
[17:59] <cmaloney> yeah, no kidding
[18:00] <cmaloney> I think you need to activate it or some such nonsense.
[18:01] <cmaloney> Oh, and it looks like you need to also set the player settings to have it show on the home menu rather than the apps menu
[18:01] <cmaloney> ?
[18:01] <greg-g> yeah, did that
[18:02] <cmaloney> Hm. I did a few server restarts in the interim
[18:02] <cmaloney> Oh lovely. It'll only work with hardwre players.
[18:02] <cmaloney> Or you need to be a subscriber.
[18:03] <greg-g> so, it'll work if I'm standing at the touch, but I can't control it via the web?
[18:03] <cmaloney> No you should be able to control it via the web
[18:04]  * greg-g restarts in a bit, when I know they aren't listening to it
[18:04] <cmaloney> OK, here's what worked for me:
[18:04] <cmaloney> installed plugin
[18:04] <cmaloney> installed app on mysb
[18:04] <cmaloney> did a few restarts, actiation code, changed my password
[18:04] <cmaloney> and it seemed to work from that point
[18:04] <greg-g> hehe
[18:04] <cmaloney> though it only would play on my touch, not my squeezelite client
[18:05] <greg-g> gotcha
[18:11] <cmaloney> http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/12/valve-joins-the-linux-foundation-ahead-of-steamos-launch/
[19:32] <jcastro> what the hell
[19:32] <jcastro> you can't CC license stuff on github?
[19:32] <jcastro> not available from the list
[19:32] <cmaloney> Is it software?
[19:35] <rick_h__> yea, CC'ing software is generally a "there's better stuff for this out there"
[19:35] <jcastro> no, it's presentations
[19:35] <jcastro> but people put all sorts of stuff on there
[19:37] <jrwren> 'cept for CC0
[19:37] <jrwren> i love me some CC0 code
[19:37] <greg-g> jcastro: what is stopping you from writing a LICENSE file?
[19:38] <jrwren> and of course you can, there just isn't a selector for it on that github page. You can still commit a LICENSE and COPYING file
[19:38] <greg-g> there's all kinds of non-FLOSS shit on github
[19:38] <jrwren> what greg-g said
[20:06] <jcastro> smoser, angular.js is the topic @ AACS tonight
[20:06] <jcastro> greg-g, yeah I am just LAZY
[20:07] <greg-g> well, I'm GLAD they don't allow CC license in their easy gui wizard thing
[20:08] <greg-g> then we'd see too much CC-BY-NC shit on there labeled "open source" when it isn't
[20:08]  * greg-g grumbles
[20:08] <jcastro> yeah, now that I think about it
[20:08] <greg-g> or, shudder, -ND
[20:08] <greg-g> like, wtf?!
[20:08] <greg-g> jcastro: also, just use the GPL for your preso, it'll be fine
[20:08] <greg-g> (seriously)
[20:09] <jcastro> looks like github purposely left it out
[20:09] <greg-g> or MIT, whatever
[20:09] <jcastro> https://github.com/github/choosealicense.com/issues/33
[20:09] <jcastro> probably for the same reasons you outlined
[20:09] <greg-g> and fuck, they replaced CC0 with a fucking crayon license?
[20:10] <greg-g> it's "simpler" but it doesn't fucking do what people think it does
[20:10] <greg-g> licenses man, they make you swear
[20:10] <jcastro> well
[20:10] <greg-g> ("what people think it does that it doesn't" == work universaly)
[20:10] <jcastro> that's why I have you hippies
[20:11] <jcastro> you just tell me what to use
[20:11] <greg-g> GPL and be done
[20:11] <greg-g> :)
[20:14] <jrwren> AGPL3
[20:15] <cmaloney> http://www.wtfpl.net/
[20:34] <rick_h__> bwuhahaha https://github.com/juju/jenkins-github-lander/pull/6 automated github landing ftw
[20:34] <rick_h__> I can't wait to get this cleaned up some more and put the bookie projects behind it.
[22:03] <greg-g> cmaloney: softsqueeze, squeezelite, squeezeplay, all need to be effing built from source?
[22:03] <greg-g> I ain't no gentoo user, man.
[22:45] <cmaloney> softsqueeze is Java-based
[22:45] <cmaloney> squeezelite has source and binaries available
[22:45] <greg-g> ok, so remove that from the list anyways ;)
[22:45] <cmaloney> squeezeslave also has binaries available
[22:45] <cmaloney> https://code.google.com/p/squeezelite/downloads/list
[22:47] <greg-g> greg@x200s:~/Downloads$ chmod +x squeezelite-x86-64
[22:47] <greg-g> greg@x200s:~/Downloads$ ./squeezelite-x86-64
[22:47] <greg-g> #hangs
[22:47] <greg-g> nothing
[22:47] <cmaloney> It's a daemon
[22:47] <greg-g> well then
[22:47] <greg-g> :)
[22:47] <cmaloney> one sec. Here's a script that i use
[22:49] <cmaloney> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6522266/
[22:49] <cmaloney> That uses my local machine as it's server
[22:50] <cmaloney> bbiab
[23:11] <greg-g> cmaloney: whoa, this just came out yesterday? http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/index.php?ver=10.0
[23:13] <greg-g> cmaloney: 'course, they changed the name
[23:34] <cmaloney> greg-g: Don't use 10.0
[23:34] <greg-g> heh, ok
[23:34] <greg-g> wasn't planning on it
[23:34] <cmaloney> That's for UE radios
[23:34] <greg-g> gotcha
[23:35] <cmaloney> And yeah, the nightlies are... well... nightly. :)