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pvl1I'm so aggregated03:04
jthanFor why?03:34
pleia2that must have been painful03:42
pvl1lol05:28
pvl1Aggravated05:28
pvl1I bought an hp two years ago05:28
pvl1never again am I buying ati mobile graphics05:29
pvl1ive not heard one good response. good idea, horrible implementation. though cell phones have made much progress in this field05:29
JonathanDMorning.10:21
rmg51Morning10:23
jedijfyep12:40
teddy-dbearMorning peoples, dogs, turkeys and everything else13:16
JonathanDhi13:42
pvl1anyone have a good experience with mobility graphics13:43
JonathanDI drew a picture while on a train.13:47
ChinnoDogI could probably draw a wheelchair if I tried.13:49
pvl1it counts13:55
pvl1means it works13:55
ChinnoDogI have no idea what we are talking about.13:59
pvl1mobility graphics is aka switchable graphics. my laptop has a Radeon but I can tell it to use intel hd integrated when on battery14:04
waltmanYou mean the type of laptops with both on-board and external GPUs?14:06
JonathanDpvl1: mine has that, but I don't know how to use it under linux.14:11
JonathanDor even if I can.14:12
JonathanDOn windows it was possible to tell each application which driver to use.14:12
ChinnoDogI had that on my T400 but I couldn't get it working right under Ubuntu.14:16
ChinnoDogWindows 8 has special handling for multiple graphics card so on this laptop everything runs with the Intel adapter by default unless I tell it to use the nVidia14:16
ChinnoDogI only use nVidia for Sketchup and games though14:17
pvl1yes waltman14:36
pvl1JonathanD ChinnoDog I got it working, but the actual driver is complete trash. ati cannot develop a decent diver14:41
pvl1technically they don't support it.u gotta get manufacturers drivers14:44
pvl1which hp failed on. so I can't blame amd14:45
pvl1it's just disappointing. 2gb card, keeps crashing14:45
MutantTurkeyChinnoDog: yeah that's annoying!14:46
MutantTurkeycan you manually disable on card at least?14:46
ChinnoDogOn T400? I could only enable/disable cards in the BIOS.14:51
ChinnoDogI left the ATI card permanently enabled on the T400 when I was doing that.14:52
pvl1that's the first main way.the next is that amdccle has the stretchable graphics setting when in bios it's manual rather than automatic15:18
ChinnoDogMy server hung. What log do I check to see what happened?16:07
ChinnoDogThe console was unresponsive16:08
JonathanDall of them.16:09
ChinnoDog:-\16:09
ChinnoDogidk what is wrong with weechat but I think it is fixed16:31
ChinnoDogAre there any logs automatically archived on system boot that would have the last events from before the server went down?16:32
pvl1syslog?16:38
pvl1kernel maybe debug16:38
pvl1r u sure it wasn't network problem16:39
ChinnoDogNot entirely but restarting the server from the control panel fixed it.16:42
pvl1Do u think you can recreate16:46
ChinnoDogNo. I don't know what caused it and all I was doing was sitting on IRC.16:48
ChinnoDogugh. Now my audio on my laptop is broken. This is going to be one of those days that nothing works.16:56
jedijfit's that time of year17:05
ChinnoDog:-(17:09
ChinnoDogDell system update killed my sound because it wanted to install a new driver17:10
ChinnoDogSo I let it. It also installed new firmware and made Bitlocker refuse to unlock my hard drive without the full decryption key instead of just the pin. Naughty.17:11
pvl1I just use truecrypt and a thumb drive18:04
ChinnoDogI store the decryption key in the TPM instead of using a thumb drive but hardware changes will invalidate it. That includes new versions of firmware.18:41
pvl1tpm?19:45
JonathanDtrusted privacy module19:47
ChinnoDogplatform20:14
jedijfwho do i trust20:17
pvl1haven't heard of it21:02
ChinnoDogIf you have a modern computer you probably have one.21:03
ChinnoDogTruecrypt doesn't use it though.21:05

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