[03:04] <pvl1> I'm so aggregated
[03:34] <jthan> For why?
[03:42] <pleia2> that must have been painful
[05:28] <pvl1> lol
[05:28] <pvl1> Aggravated
[05:28] <pvl1> I bought an hp two years ago
[05:29] <pvl1> never again am I buying ati mobile graphics
[05:29] <pvl1> ive not heard one good response. good idea, horrible implementation. though cell phones have made much progress in this field
[10:21] <JonathanD> Morning.
[10:23] <rmg51> Morning
[12:40] <jedijf> yep
[13:16] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys and everything else
[13:42] <JonathanD> hi
[13:43] <pvl1> anyone have a good experience with mobility graphics
[13:47] <JonathanD> I drew a picture while on a train.
[13:49] <ChinnoDog> I could probably draw a wheelchair if I tried.
[13:55] <pvl1> it counts
[13:55] <pvl1> means it works
[13:59] <ChinnoDog> I have no idea what we are talking about.
[14:04] <pvl1> mobility graphics is aka switchable graphics. my laptop has a Radeon but I can tell it to use intel hd integrated when on battery
[14:06] <waltman> You mean the type of laptops with both on-board and external GPUs?
[14:11] <JonathanD> pvl1: mine has that, but I don't know how to use it under linux.
[14:12] <JonathanD> or even if I can.
[14:12] <JonathanD> On windows it was possible to tell each application which driver to use.
[14:16] <ChinnoDog> I had that on my T400 but I couldn't get it working right under Ubuntu.
[14:16] <ChinnoDog> Windows 8 has special handling for multiple graphics card so on this laptop everything runs with the Intel adapter by default unless I tell it to use the nVidia
[14:17] <ChinnoDog> I only use nVidia for Sketchup and games though
[14:36] <pvl1> yes waltman
[14:41] <pvl1> JonathanD ChinnoDog I got it working, but the actual driver is complete trash. ati cannot develop a decent diver
[14:44] <pvl1> technically they don't support it.u gotta get manufacturers drivers
[14:45] <pvl1> which hp failed on. so I can't blame amd
[14:45] <pvl1> it's just disappointing. 2gb card, keeps crashing
[14:46] <MutantTurkey> ChinnoDog: yeah that's annoying!
[14:46] <MutantTurkey> can you manually disable on card at least?
[14:51] <ChinnoDog> On T400? I could only enable/disable cards in the BIOS.
[14:52] <ChinnoDog> I left the ATI card permanently enabled on the T400 when I was doing that.
[15:18] <pvl1> that's the first main way.the next is that amdccle has the stretchable graphics setting when in bios it's manual rather than automatic
[16:07] <ChinnoDog> My server hung. What log do I check to see what happened?
[16:08] <ChinnoDog> The console was unresponsive
[16:09] <JonathanD> all of them.
[16:09] <ChinnoDog> :-\
[16:31] <ChinnoDog> idk what is wrong with weechat but I think it is fixed
[16:32] <ChinnoDog> Are there any logs automatically archived on system boot that would have the last events from before the server went down?
[16:38] <pvl1> syslog?
[16:38] <pvl1> kernel maybe debug
[16:39] <pvl1> r u sure it wasn't network problem
[16:42] <ChinnoDog> Not entirely but restarting the server from the control panel fixed it.
[16:46] <pvl1> Do u think you can recreate
[16:48] <ChinnoDog> No. I don't know what caused it and all I was doing was sitting on IRC.
[16:56] <ChinnoDog> ugh. Now my audio on my laptop is broken. This is going to be one of those days that nothing works.
[17:05] <jedijf> it's that time of year
[17:09] <ChinnoDog> :-(
[17:10] <ChinnoDog> Dell system update killed my sound because it wanted to install a new driver
[17:11] <ChinnoDog> So I let it. It also installed new firmware and made Bitlocker refuse to unlock my hard drive without the full decryption key instead of just the pin. Naughty.
[18:04] <pvl1> I just use truecrypt and a thumb drive
[18:41] <ChinnoDog> I store the decryption key in the TPM instead of using a thumb drive but hardware changes will invalidate it. That includes new versions of firmware.
[19:45] <pvl1> tpm?
[19:47] <JonathanD> trusted privacy module
[20:14] <ChinnoDog> platform
[20:17] <jedijf> who do i trust
[21:02] <pvl1> haven't heard of it
[21:03] <ChinnoDog> If you have a modern computer you probably have one.
[21:05] <ChinnoDog> Truecrypt doesn't use it though.