[00:43] <Sarvatt> Prf_Jakob: should be another day or so tops for xorg-pkg-tools if you're still waiting, just needs mlankhorst to push what he's done to git.debian.org :P
[05:19] <daras> hi, what about ubuntu-x PPA for ubuntu 13.10? I'm getting 404
[05:19] <daras> and here there's no saucy: http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu/dists/
[05:21] <daras_> am I doing something wrong or there's no support for 13.10?
[05:27] <daras_> ok, thanks for help :) I'll try to find anyone alive tomorrow
[06:18] <tjaalton> too impatient
[15:30] <aicasn> hey folks - why is the latest nvidia driver still 319 in x-swat?  i believe the curent version is 332
[16:01] <mlankhorst> Sarvatt: ^
[16:06] <Sarvatt> guess i could just copy them out of edgers
[16:08] <mlankhorst> oh wait x-swat ;P
[16:09] <tjaalton> yeah who cares
[16:09] <tjaalton> just upgrade the installation
[16:09] <Sarvatt> if launchpad ever lets me do the copy, so many packages :)
[16:16] <Sarvatt> aicasn: there ya go
[16:20] <aicasn> are we not treating LTS as a valid distribution?
[16:21] <mlankhorst> ues
[16:21] <Sarvatt> its more not treating a ppa as a valid distribution :P
[16:21] <tjaalton> if you want nvidia updated there, poke tseliot 
[16:21] <tjaalton> gently
[16:21] <tseliot> :)
[16:22] <tseliot> aicasn: I'm working to introduce 331 in precise. This will land together with some major changes to the way we handle hybrid graphics, so it will take a while to get it all approved
[16:23] <tjaalton> he wants 332
[16:23] <Sarvatt> there isnt a 332, its 331
[16:24] <tjaalton> ok, a type then
[16:24] <tjaalton> typo even
[16:24] <tseliot> well, I would use 332 if only it existed ;).
[16:24] <aicasn> sorry it's 331.20. as i understood it, x-swat was created to provide current packages to frozen ubuntu distros. i was asking why no package since 319 had been added
[16:26] <tseliot> aicasn: apparently ricotz uploaded that a few minutes ago https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[16:27] <tjaalton> Sarvatt did
[16:27] <Sarvatt> i just copied ricotz's packages out of xorg-edgers to it, thats where he updates them
[16:28] <tseliot> ah, good
[16:28] <aicasn> i see. thank you. so it's not a problem of compatibility ("331 doesn't play well with 12.04"), it's just that no one had updated the repo?
[16:32] <tseliot> yep
[16:33] <aicasn> awesome. thanks :)
[16:35] <aicasn> tseliot: just for my info, what kind of a timeframe are we looking at wrt 331 in precise?  a month or two?  six?
[16:36] <tseliot> aicasn: I'm going to upload soon, possibly by the end of this week, but then I don't know when they will be approved. All I know is that they will be available in Ubuntu 12.04.4
[16:37] <tseliot> aicasn: the release date is January 23th
[16:37] <tseliot> *23rd
[16:38] <tseliot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[16:39] <aicasn> good info
[16:52] <genii> Is there a way to install both nvidia and fglrx drivers if you have one of each card? There is a user in #ubuntu claiming installing one removes the other
[16:54] <tjaalton> no there is not
[16:55] <genii> tjaalton: Is there some reason which could be given to explain why both cannot be used simultaneously?
[16:55] <tjaalton> they both try to replace libGL
[16:58] <genii> tjaalton: OK, thanks