[05:02] <Kilos> hi mazal Squirm and all others
[05:06] <mazal> More oom
[05:10] <mazal> Handy doc for Libre Office Calc users : https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/4/47/CG41-CalcGuideLO.pdf
[05:17] <Kilos> so. wat se jy van mate?
[05:46] <mazal> Nie te bad nie. So hier en daar iets kleins wat ek mis van Unity. Maar niks major nie
[05:46] <mazal> Wil op 'n stadium kubuntu-desktop ook opsit en check
[05:46] <Kilos> hehe dis heel anders maar baie lekker
[05:48] <Kilos> ian het van vensters gegaan na kde.hy hou nie van gnome nie
[05:50] <mazal> Dis mos net kubuntu-desktop wat ek moet install ne ?
[05:50] <Kilos> ya
[05:50] <mazal> Sal kyk oor die naweek dalk
[05:52] <inetpro> goeie more
[05:53] <Kilos> more inetpro 
[05:56] <Squirm> morning
[05:58] <mazal> Morning inetpro , Squirm 
[06:02] <Kilos> hard to believe that power packs caused all my probs. since using a second psu for drives ive had no probs
[06:09]  * Symmetria looks in
[06:09] <Kilos> hi Symmetria you winning?
[06:10] <Symmetria> heh, sitting in my empty house waiting for the furniture vans ;p
[06:10] <Kilos> lol
[06:10] <Kilos> here or up there
[06:11] <Kilos> you not moving here are you?
[06:11] <Symmetria> lol in Kenya
[06:11] <Symmetria> heh have furniture vans apparently arriving in an hour and I have the people to come do the fiber surveys on the way
[06:11] <Kilos> was just gonna say moving all your local setup is like a lifetime job
[06:12] <Kilos> cool direct fibre?
[06:12] <Kilos> you dont like slow connections
[06:12] <Symmetria> heh, well, I kinda cheated slightly ;p and decided that if we had really high speed access in here
[06:12] <Symmetria> I could sell high speed internet to all the other complex clients
[06:12] <Symmetria> so my house is becoming a metro node on our network 
[06:13] <Kilos> aha
[06:13] <Symmetria> ;p with redundant 10G fibers into it
[06:13] <superfly> aloha
[06:13] <Kilos> cool
[06:13] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[06:13] <Symmetria> lol strange how I had to move to kenya to get real bandwidth into my house ;p
[06:13] <Symmetria> the max I ever managed to pull off in ZA was a coupla hundred meg
[06:19] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[06:19] <mazal> Hehe , just figured out how to add launchers to the top panel. I forgot all about that and how handy it is :)
[06:20] <Kilos> ya worked well that hey
[06:20] <Kilos> mazal, have you installed mate onto the faulty unity?
[06:20] <mazal> I'm feeling sooooo 1995 now lol
[06:21] <mazal> Yes , my same OS
[06:21] <Kilos> no man 10.10 was the last gnome2
[06:21] <Kilos> and the prob is gone?
[06:21] <Kilos> so unity de was sick
[06:21] <mazal> I dunno , haven't been in Unity again since I installed Mate
[06:21] <Symmetria> I wanna stick a mirror server in my house 
[06:21] <Symmetria> so I never have to download anything again
[06:22] <Kilos> lol
[06:22] <mazal> Symmetria, I would also like that :)
[06:22] <Symmetria> mazal lol I got the bandwidth into my house to run the mirror for all of east africa ;p
[06:23] <mazal> Wow ok
[06:24] <mazal> bbl , need to image
[06:45] <Kilos> sjoe, memories, found a shakespear big stick in storeroom
[07:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> so i recently got myself a camera, and i'm looking at getting a tele zoom lens sometime
[07:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://www.ormsdirect.co.za/canon-ef-200-400mm-f-4l-is-usm-lens-with-internal-1-4x-extender
[07:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> I'm taking donations :-p
[07:06] <Kilos> lol
[07:23] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:33] <nuvolari> oh hi Vince-0, oom Kilos, ThatGraemeGuy, Symmetria, mazal, superfly, Squirm 
[07:33] <Kilos> hi nuvolari 
[07:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> g'day :)
[07:33] <Squirm> 'lo
[07:33] <Squirm> nuvolari: I hear you're busy joining in with the festivities over the past few days
[07:34] <Squirm> kudos to you
[07:41] <mazal> Hi nuvolari 
[07:44] <Vince-0> ! nuvolari 
[07:44] <Vince-0> an mese
[07:44] <Vince-0> mense*
[07:52] <Kilos> do we never need stuffs like http://www.rootkit.nl/projects/lynis.html
[08:14] <mazal> Oom Kilos , you don't perhaps can remember how big the download is for kubuntu-dekstop ?
[08:14] <mazal> My alie jeuk om te try , maar het nie baie data hier nie
[08:15] <Kilos> sjoe maybe 170m of so iets
[08:15] <Kilos> ek het kubuntu-desktop-full
[08:16] <Kilos> if you can name the packages i can give you the size of each
[08:16] <Kilos> hehe
[08:17] <sakhi> Morning
[08:17] <Kilos> hi sakhi howsit
[08:17] <Kilos> ohi kbmonkey 
[08:17] <sakhi> Good thanks and you Kilos ?
[08:17] <Kilos> good ty
[08:18] <mazal> Seker beter om daai "full" een te install ne ?
[08:19] <Kilos> dit kry baie meer goed mazal 
[08:19] <Kilos> kde werk sonder die full
[08:20] <Kilos> ek het full gekry net om data klaar te maak een maand
[08:22] <mazal> Ek hou van baie " goed "
[08:22] <mazal> Baie goed beteken baie dinge om mee te speel :)
[08:23] <mazal> En te karring....en te krap...en te peuter
[08:23] <Kilos> sjoe baie tools en goed
[08:24] <Kilos> ek het nog nie eers 1/4 pad gekom nie
[08:24] <Kilos> baie van die goed is vir slimmes
[08:24] <mazal> Ek's baie happy met die mate sover. Is nog baie vroeg en baie apps moet nog getoets word , maar op die stadium is hy nice
[08:25] <Kilos> en vinniger as unity
[08:26] <Kilos> ek het vroeg mate probeer toe kon ek niemand help met unity nie to gooi ek mate uit
[08:31] <mazal> Ek besef nou 'n ding , ek het mos aanmekaar daai irreterende boodskap gekry " system has encountered a problem " En dan het jy mos opsie om dit te stuur na Ubuntu toe
[08:31] <mazal> Aanmekaar , elke dag. Dit het nog nie vandag gebeur in mate nie. Ek dink defnitief dat whatever die issue op my install is , unity related is
[08:32] <Kilos> ya kan wees
[08:32] <mazal> En ek het ander weird ding ook agtergekom
[08:33] <mazal> Almal sê mos Nvidia is beter as ATI vir linux
[08:33] <mazal> Maar by my werk die ATI kaart by die werk beter as my Nvidia kaart by die huis
[08:33] <Kilos> ja baie ati kaarte werk nie
[08:33] <Kilos> sjoe
[08:34] <mazal> BV , die game 0AD. Werk nie op die nvidia kaart nie , maar werk op die ATI. Die unity shortcuts werk nie by die huis op Nvidia nie , maar werk op die ATI hier
[08:34] <mazal> Sulke goedtjies
[08:35] <Kilos> hmm... goed om te weet
[08:35] <mazal> Maar op 13.04 , het die ATI nou weer nie gewerk nie
[08:35] <Kilos> lol
[08:35] <mazal> Ek moes mos 'n Nvidia kaart koop net om 13.04 te laat werk
[08:35] <mazal> Maak my kop seer die goed
[08:37] <superfly> hi nuvolari
[08:46] <mazal> Unable to locate package kubuntu-desktop-full
[08:46] <mazal> What am I doing wrong ?
[08:46] <Kilos> wait lemme check
[08:46] <mazal> Command was sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop-full
[08:46] <Kilos> may be kubuntu-full
[08:47] <Kilos> ya kubuntu-full
[08:47] <Kilos> sorry
[08:48] <Kilos> then kubuntu-restricted-extras and kubuntu-restricted-addons
[08:51] <mazal> ta
[08:51] <mazal> Kan mos alles in een command doen
[08:51] <nuvolari> Squirm: I wish! :-/
[08:52] <mazal> Eina !!! Need to get 920mb
[08:52] <mazal> Will defnitely be done at home :P
[08:55] <Kilos> ja
[08:55] <Kilos> sjoe
[09:06] <Kilos> hi Tonberry 
[09:24] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[09:25] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[10:01] <charl> good morning
[10:01] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[10:01]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[10:01] <charl> ah the maid is back :)
[10:05] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[10:06] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[10:06] <Maaz> charl: Sure
[10:06] <psyatw> good morning charl
[10:06] <charl> hi psyatw 
[10:06] <charl> how's it going
[10:06] <psyatw> going well
[10:07] <psyatw> recovering from the weekend
[10:07] <psyatw> :)
[10:07] <psyatw> and you?
[10:07] <charl> psyatw: ha ha ! did you have a rough weekend? you went to warsaw right?
[10:07] <charl> i'm doing well thanks
[10:07] <psyatw> charl, yeah, I´ve been travelling again
[10:07] <psyatw> and I sleep on buses generally, which is far from perfect
[10:08] <psyatw> but the weekend is so short, so I have to do something
[10:08] <charl> i also do that, and yes, it's far from perfect indeed
[10:08] <charl> that's the way i went to oktoberfest actually
[10:08] <psyatw> especially beccause it takes 5 hours to go to or from warsaw
[10:08] <charl> because the hotels around that time in munich are so expensive that i just sleep on the train
[10:08] <psyatw> yes, indeed
[10:08] <charl> i arrive early morning in time for the 10.00 opening of the beer tents and i left in the evening
[10:09] <psyatw> I spent one night at the mcdonald´s in warsaw in october :)
[10:09] <psyatw> because I didn´t know where to look for a hostel
[10:09] <charl> there were a number of people in munich at the mcdonalds who also did that
[10:09] <psyatw> but now I know
[10:09] <psyatw> haha
[10:09] <charl> at the top floor they had some places where it was convenient to sleep
[10:10] <charl> i was surprised that they allowed people to do that
[10:10] <psyatw> yes
[10:10] <charl> i only had a (really terrible) cappuccino and left
[10:10] <charl> the american coffee is as weak as it ever could be
[10:10] <psyatw> best is not to eat or drink anything there
[10:10] <charl> oh sorry no, that was at a starbucks, not a mcdonalds
[10:10] <psyatw> unless you have no choice
[10:11] <charl> no it was a mcdonalds indeed
[10:11] <charl> sorry my memory is a little messed up from oktoberfest :)
[10:11] <psyatw> hahaha
[10:11] <psyatw> well, I remember when you told me about it :)
[10:11] <charl> that's what drinking three litre of helle will do to you
[10:11] <psyatw> it was something like a ´bliksembezoek´ indeed
[10:12] <psyatw> wow
[10:12] <charl> yeah exactly
[10:12] <psyatw> I can´t even drink 3 litres of water on a day
[10:12] <charl> went half way across europe for a day of oktoberfest
[10:12] <psyatw> hmm, could we be related in any way?
[10:12] <psyatw> I´ve been called crazy for my unplanned visits
[10:13] <psyatw> but somehow I find it exciting to do things like that
[10:13] <charl> oh me too, believe me, both crazy bastards i guess :)
[10:13] <psyatw> :D
[10:13] <charl> yeah me too
[10:15] <psyatw> I always meet new people this way and can tell exciting stories about my adventures
[10:15] <psyatw> taking a flight is so boring in comparison
[10:15] <charl> yeah i had a great conversation with a german women who grew up in munich and is now living in bremen
[10:16] <charl> told me about what she thinks of oktoberfest people :) and to watch out for criminals
[10:16] <charl> she also said bavaria is the most educated state in germany
[10:16] <charl> but the bavarians are really awesome people all-round
[10:17] <psyatw> yes, I have found the same :)
[10:17] <psyatw> and I usually get along very well with germans too
[10:17] <charl> at oktoberfest i had a chat with a really cute bavarian girl who told me she does beer brewing for a living
[10:18] <charl> i almost didn't believe her, i told her, is that a common occupation for women i bavaria?
[10:18] <charl> in
[10:18] <psyatw> did you get her number? :)
[10:18] <charl> no she had a boyfriend (who was also there) :)
[10:18] <psyatw> hahaha
[10:18] <charl> believe me, if that wasn't the case... ;)
[10:18] <psyatw> my friends always ask me what I girls I meet wherever I go
[10:19] <psyatw> because I always meet someone new
[10:19] <charl> nah it was great fun, i would do it again, but this time i also know more of what to expect
[10:19] <psyatw> yes, you´re right
[10:19] <psyatw> the first time is often just exploring what´s there
[10:19] <charl> yeah and getting to know the ropes... "ontgroening" :)
[10:20] <psyatw> :)
[10:21] <psyatw> if only I drank beer, then I would join you at oktoberfest some time
[10:21] <charl> i guess drinking beer isn't a requirement but it does kinda spoil it if you don't ;)
[10:22] <charl> some people apparently drink wine but i haven't seen any of them :P
[10:22] <psyatw> I had some shot of vodka in ukraine so I was allowed to enter the restaurant, that was enough alcohol for me :)
[10:22] <psyatw> hahaha
[10:22] <charl> you have to have a shot of vodka before you can enter a restaurant? :D
[10:22] <charl> is that normal in ukraine?
[10:22] <Squirm> lol
[10:22] <Squirm> I want to go to Ukraine
[10:22] <Squirm> :P
[10:22] <psyatw> hahaha
[10:23] <psyatw> you´re welcome any time, Squirm :P
[10:23] <psyatw> well, at that particular restaurant it apparently was
[10:23] <psyatw> you weren´t even allowed to speak Russian there :D
[10:23] <charl> i can just imagine the waiters in front at the restaurant... "sorry sir, have you had a shot of vodka yet? you look too sober to enter"
[10:23] <psyatw> hahaha
[10:23] <psyatw> oh
[10:23] <psyatw> I also went to this masobar
[10:23] <psyatw> and was whipped by a cute ukrainian lady
[10:23] <charl> i bet the ukrainians don't like the russians
[10:24] <charl> you were whipped ?!
[10:24] <psyatw> yes
[10:24] <psyatw> on my bare back!
[10:24] <charl> masobar? masochist bar?
[10:24] <Squirm> hmm
[10:24] <psyatw> yes
[10:24] <charl> i don't even want to know... :S
[10:24] <psyatw> it wasn´t extreme or anything
[10:24] <psyatw> more like funny
[10:24] <psyatw> and the only place open at that time
[10:25] <charl> heh now that is an adventure !
[10:25] <psyatw> so this ukrainian friend took me there
[10:25] <Squirm> that could be fun
[10:25] <psyatw> well, life with me is always an adventure
[10:25] <psyatw> sometimes a bit too much, I guess
[10:25] <psyatw> :)
[10:25] <Squirm> I try and make it one
[10:25] <charl> i don't want to get whipped though... everyone has their fetishes, mine is cute japanese maids
[10:25] <charl> i don't judge :)
[10:26] <psyatw> haha
[10:26] <psyatw> well, it was the first time for me too :)
[10:32] <charl> ok i'm off, need to get some work done
[10:32] <charl> have a good day all !
[12:39] <mazal> Bye everyone , have a nice evening
[14:24] <Kilos> inetpro, jy kan begin planne maak ne
[14:33] <Kilos> oops
[14:37] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn no one even greeted you
[14:37] <Kilos> sorry man
[14:37] <Kilos>  i was sleeping
[14:37] <nlsthzn> np
[14:37]  * nlsthzn noms dinner... back later
[14:58]  * Kilos goes to kde for a while
[15:03] <Kilos> ouch... 3 min boot time
[18:20] <Kilos> inetpro, ?
[19:02] <inetpro> Kilos: ?
[19:02] <Kilos> i messed up the agenda sir. added that day bit but didnt number it
[19:03] <Kilos> used to add as a follow on from 3 or 4 now it dont
[19:03] <Kilos> sorry
[19:03] <Kilos> dunno how to remove or move it down
[19:03] <inetpro> Kilos: np
[19:03] <Kilos> ty
[19:04] <inetpro> can always be moved by renumbering the items
[19:04] <Kilos> i can try do it
[19:05] <inetpro> just open up ech item to check its number then work out a sequence and go change
[19:05] <Kilos> ok ill try ty
[19:05] <inetpro> they are probably all on the same number
[19:05] <Kilos> 0ver 100mm rain so far
[19:05] <inetpro> I used to set the last item as 100
[19:05] <Kilos> 10
[19:06] <inetpro> 100mm rain? Wow!
[19:06] <Kilos> 10 man
[19:06] <Kilos> bouncy finger
[19:06] <inetpro> ahh... that sounds better
[19:06]  * inetpro goes to check... don't think we had that much
[19:09] <Kilos> oo yay ty inetpro 
[19:09] <inetpro> 4mm
[19:10] <Kilos> aw
[19:10] <inetpro> but I had a bonus today
[19:10] <Kilos> what kind?
[19:10] <inetpro> wild mushroom found on my own plot
[19:11] <inetpro> oh so tasty
[19:11] <Kilos> black underside?
[19:11] <inetpro> thought they only grow in KZN
[19:11] <inetpro> no white
[19:11] <Kilos> i see we got about 5 or 6 white ones and white under
[19:11] <Kilos> i dunno if they safe to eat
[19:11] <inetpro> the wrong one can be deadly
[19:12] <Kilos> how do you tell
[19:12] <inetpro> eish! I just know from experience on the farm
[19:12] <Kilos> in natal the makauwe must be black underneath
[19:12] <Kilos> those that get big like dinner plates
[19:12] <inetpro> it has a very specific look and smell
[19:13] <Kilos> high dome?
[19:13] <inetpro> yep this was a makauwe, but white underneath
[19:13] <inetpro> flat
[19:13] <Kilos> ah these are a high dome type
[19:14] <inetpro> see https://plus.google.com/114254397525521567468/posts/hKQytw4JxQ1
[19:14] <Kilos> ok
[19:15] <Kilos> il check again tomorrow
[19:15] <Kilos> i love them things
[19:16] <inetpro> very tasty indeed
[19:16] <Kilos> thse were still high dome but not big yet
[19:16] <Kilos> i dont think the bad ones get big
[19:16] <Kilos> yeah they much tastier than cultivated mushrooms
[19:17] <Kilos> sis says kowes got black bottom
[19:18] <Kilos> and thats how i remember the natal ones
[19:25] <inetpro> can't remember ever eating the ones with a black bottom
[19:25] <Kilos> i used to walk miles in utrecht after storms
[19:26] <Kilos> they so lekker my mouth is watering just thinking about them
[19:29] <Kilos> these are on a thin stem. i think thats part of the seeing the poison ones
[19:38] <inetpro> I would trust any that I don't know for sure
[19:38] <inetpro> would never*
[19:38] <Kilos> yeah
[19:38] <Kilos> i only know the black bottom utrecht ones so i stay clear of any here
[19:39] <Kilos> anyway. sleep tight
[19:39] <Kilos> night all . sleep tight
[19:39] <Kilos> ty for the help inetpro 
[19:39] <inetpro> friend of mine landed in hospital after eating one with friends who thought that they had found the right one
[19:39] <Kilos> ai!
[19:40] <Kilos> not worth taking a chance if you not sure
[19:40] <inetpro> definitely
[19:40] <inetpro> anyway, good night oom