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hugomagichi02:33
hugomagicI was trying to install netflix and my terminal stop totally downloading firefox. I did a reboot, now I see that I have new updates so Im supossed to do a partial distribution upgrade but the terminal still showing trying to download firefox just trying and not doing it therefore I cant complete the updates.02:38
holstein!netflix02:38
ubottuIf you use Netflix, there is an unofficial solution for using it in Ubuntu detailed in http://www.compholio.com/netflix-desktop/ - bug reports in https://bugs.launchpad.net/netflix-desktop02:38
holsteinthe terminal shouldnt be downloading firefox02:38
hugomagicsupossedly is one of the steps02:39
holsteinhugomagic: there are no "official" steps.. but, you can share what you are looking at02:39
hugomagicI wish I was able to copy and paste from the terminal but I dont know how02:40
Unit193Select with mouse, right click, copy.02:41
hugomagicI'll give it a try02:41
holsteinhugomagic: you can share the link you are reffering to, that you are implying requires you to use the terminal to download firefox02:42
Unit193holstein: It's silverlight in wine, thus needs firefox in wine to use the silverlight extension.02:44
hugomagicexactly02:45
Unit193!pastebin02:45
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ball!spleen02:45
Unit193hugomagic: Figured out how to copy from the terminal?02:49
hugomagicI will put a screenshot on the link above02:50
hugomagicI put the screenshot already on imagebin.org under the name distribution upgrade02:54
hugomagichttp://imagebin.org/28043902:54
Unit193v22.0?02:58
hugomagicyes and there is where it stop totally and it does not continue with the next steps.03:01
Unit193I think that may be a bug perhaps, if it needs a newer version?  I do not know, isn't there a #netflix-desktop or something?03:02
hugomagicThis is the page I went to get the info on how to get netflix http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/11/netflix-on-ubuntu-is-here.html03:05
holstein!netflix | hugomagic03:05
ubottuhugomagic: If you use Netflix, there is an unofficial solution for using it in Ubuntu detailed in http://www.compholio.com/netflix-desktop/ - bug reports in https://bugs.launchpad.net/netflix-desktop03:05
hugomagicSorry I am very new to linux03:05
holsteinthat is the place i refer to03:06
hugomagicI was following the steps but I'm stuck there installing firefox03:08
hugomagicis there anything I can do to revert the process and go back to a stable state?03:09
Unit193Yeah, might be better to ask in #netflix-desktop03:09
Unit193You can purge it.03:09
hugomagicohh03:09
holsteinyou should purge it03:10
hugomagicok03:10
hugomagicis there a special command to do that? Do just write the word purge on the terminal?03:11
hugomagicI did write purge and then enter but nothing is happening.03:13
Unit193sudo apt-get purge netflix-desktop03:13
hugomagicoh cool03:13
Poisoned_Dragongrrr04:10
Poisoned_Dragonoops, wrong window04:10
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someguy80has anyone here been able to install MS Office 2010 in xubuntu 13.01?10:38
bazhangcheck the appdb and then join #winehq10:39
bazhang!appdb | someguy8010:40
ubottusomeguy80: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help10:40
someguy80!appdb10:40
ubottuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help10:40
baizonsomeguy80: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=1848710:41
bazhanghttp://appdb.winehq.org   <----- someguy8010:41
bazhangsomeguy80, after checking that link, then /join #winehq for support10:41
someguy80thank you. I was just wondering if there were any xubuntu specific issues in doing so.10:41
baizonsomeguy80: 32bit http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=1733610:42
baizonit seems the 32bit is working, the 64bit version not really10:42
cfhowlettsomeguy80, wine is pretty much distro agnostic10:43
someguy80thank you again10:43
baizonno problem10:43
someguy80the dr. pepper of software10:43
Jaime-Xubuntuhello13:09
cfhowlettJaime-Xubuntu, greetings13:10
Jaime-Xubuntuim triying to use my hdmi sound but i have no audio13:10
Jaime-XubuntuThanks13:10
Jaime-Xubuntui have aspire one 72213:10
Jaime-Xubuntusomebody can help me?13:10
Jaime-Xubuntuhow to configure hmdi sound to aspire one 722 xubuntu 13.1013:11
gr0ntI absolutely cannot get libudev.so.1 to work13:11
gr0ntIm about to smash my rig13:11
gr0ntSudo apt-get install libudev1 --- package not found13:12
cfhowlettgr0nt, wouldn't advise it13:12
gr0ntNothing on google works13:12
cfhowlettgr0nt, I'm on 12.04, all repos enabled.  it ain't there.13:12
cfhowlettgr0nt, suggest you search for libudev*13:13
Jaime-Xubuntuhow to configure hmdi sound to aspire one 722 xubuntu 13.1013:13
gr0ntIts installed cf13:13
gr0ntIm about to switch distro, wasted hours13:15
PiiiRKOgr0nt: xubuntu is best lightweight ubuntu distro.. but.. its up to you..13:15
Jaime-Xubuntubye, some request on jaimeirazabal1@gmail.com <-13:16
cfhowlettgr0nt, free = free to choose what works13:17
gr0ntGood point.13:17
krytarikgr0nt: It's available on every version later than 12.04.13:17
gr0ntIm on 13.1013:18
Sysi-!info libudev113:19
ubottulibudev1 (source: systemd): libudev shared library. In component main, is required. Version 204-0ubuntu19 (saucy), package size 36 kB, installed size 121 kB (Only available for linux-any)13:19
cfhowlettSysi-, why doesn't this show up on apt-cache policy?13:19
cfhowlettd'0h!  later than 12.0413:19
cfhowlett!cookie|Sysi-,13:20
ubottuSysi-,: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!13:20
Sysi-on 12.04 you have just libudev013:20
Sysi-gr0nt: you did sudo apt-get update of course?13:20
gr0ntUpdate and upgrade13:21
Sysi-if you're compiling you might need libudev-dev13:21
gr0ntIm pulling up the actual error message...13:21
cfhowlettgr0nt, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade might pull it iin13:22
cfhowlettin13:22
gr0ntError while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.1: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory13:23
gr0ntMost of the google results have me creating symlinks... Which didnt work13:23
gr0ntGonna try that cfh13:24
gr0ntNo luck, very sad :(13:30
cfhowlettgr0nt, sorry.  compile yourself? or get libudev-dev as Sysi suggested?13:31
gr0ntNot even sure where to get source13:32
gr0ntThis thing is like vaporware13:32
krytarikgr0nt: You should find that it's installed already: "locate libudev.so.0".13:33
krytarikOops, wrong version :)13:33
gr0ntYes you are right13:34
cfhowlettgr0nt, apt-cache search libudeve will show you13:35
cfhowlettlibudev13:35
gr0ntI mustve done so.0 and so.13.013:35
ObrienDavehttps://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit/wiki/The-solution-of-lacking-libudev.so.013:35
ObrienDavedid you see this?13:35
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gr0ntYes i did, dave13:35
ObrienDavek13:36
gr0ntThank u very much13:36
gr0ntSo the command is13:37
gr0nt# ln -s /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libudev.so.1 ./libudev.so.013:37
gr0ntSymbolic link from my understanding13:37
koegsgr0nt: which ubuntu-version do you use? 13.1013:37
gr0ntIve typed in what you suggested krytarik13:37
gr0ntYes 13.10 64bit13:37
koegsand you need libudev.so.1 or libudev.so.0?13:38
gr0ntMy error message is:13:38
gr0nt(gr0nt) Error while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.1: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory13:38
koegswhat was the result of "sudo apt-get install libudev1"?13:39
gr0ntIs my ln -s command backwards?13:39
gr0ntUnable to locate package.13:40
krytarikgr0nt: Wait, you got a result on the exact command I posted?13:40
gr0nt'Locate libudev'13:41
gr0ntYes i got some results, nothing so.1 though13:41
krytarikgr0nt: Because I missed to adapt the version the one you are looking for, as I mentioned there.13:41
koegs"locate libudev.so.1"13:42
krytarikgr0nt: That is, if you get a result for that there, you likely aren't on 13.10.13:42
koegsand also "sudo apt-get install libudev1" should work too, or you are not on ubuntu 13.10, as krytarik said :)13:42
gr0nt0 results, koegs13:42
gr0ntXubuntu13:42
gr0ntI promise it doesnt work :) lol13:43
koegsdoes not matter, please show the result of "lsb_release -a"13:43
gr0ntSimply says, package not found13:43
gr0ntOne moment koegs13:43
gr0ntWhat the?!?!?!  12.04.3 LTS13:44
gr0nt}:(  oh lord...13:44
krytariklol13:44
cfhowlettLOLOL!13:44
koegsQED :)13:44
ObrienDavethat would explain a lot ;))13:44
cfhowlettgr0nt, not laughing at you, laughing with you ...13:44
gr0ntSorry guys.  Feel really bad about this one13:45
PiiiRKO:DDD13:45
gr0ntIm laughing at me13:45
cfhowlettObrienDave, that would explain ALL - except why you thought you were running 13.1013:45
ObrienDavemade for an exciting morning :)13:45
gr0ntWhats my course of action, 13.10 fresh install?13:45
ObrienDavei am running 13.10 ;P13:45
cfhowlettgr0nt, now aren't you glad you didn't trash your box as you threatened?  I think you owe your faithful machine an apology13:46
cfhowlettand a fresh 13.1013:46
gr0ntYes i do...  * im sowwy guy *13:46
ObrienDave*your 'puter forgives you*13:46
gr0ntI have a secret, havent slept in 28 hours.  This is the problem i think13:47
cfhowlettgr0nt, best thing to do is get some shuteye.  Come back MUCH later and start over.  Your present condition is almost guaranteed to lead to disaster.13:47
gr0ntI ended up with isos for 12.04 and 12.10 my brain read that as 13.10... Over and over and over.... Sorry guys.13:49
gr0ntThanks for the help, still laughing, smh.13:50
gr0ntThen i didnt even install the iso i thought was 13.10 ... Youre right cfh13:51
gr0ntTime for sleep :)13:51
cfhowlettgr0nt, go to bed13:51
gr0ntI appreciate the help13:52
ObrienDavewait until you get cfhowlett's bill ;)13:53
cfhowlettObrienDave, paypal and bitcoin accepted.  conversion to Chinese yuan appreciated13:56
ObrienDaveLOL13:59
ObrienDavei should bite my tongue about your bill, especially after last weeks fiasco ;P14:01
someguy80hello. i have  a dell inspiron mini 1012 with xubuntu 13.01 on it. i have the power options set to do nothing when i shut the lid for a/c and battery. but when i shut it it throws it into sleep or standby. can anyone help?14:17
cfhowlettsomeguy80, /swap?14:17
someguy80hello. i have  a dell inspiron mini 1012 with xubuntu 13.01 on it. i have the power options set to do nothing when i shut the lid for a/c14:18
someguy80for some reason that msg got split up14:18
cfhowlettsomeguy80, so ... no /swap?14:18
someguy80what do you mean? sorry still a noob14:19
cfhowlett!swap14:21
ubottuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info14:21
GridCubesomeguy80, http://askubuntu.com/questions/362667/xubuntu-13-10-disabling-suspend-on-lid-being-closed14:21
cfhowlettGridCube, thanks.  think you nailed it.14:22
someguy80well, i know what a swap file is, but i don't know what it has to do with this *feeling dumb*14:22
someguy80yea thanks gridcube14:22
cfhowlettsomeguy80, I may have misconspoke.  please see gridcube's suggestion14:22
someguy80and thank you as well cf14:23
xubuntu522what are Xubuntu 12.04 LTS specifications?14:26
cfhowlettxubuntu522, specs?  you mean ... what exactly?14:27
cfhowlettthere are MANY specifications.14:27
GridCubexubuntu522, it depends on what you need to do14:28
GridCubebut xubuntu "will" run in very low specs, like 5GB hd and 256MB ram, but that will be slooooooooooooow as a snail14:29
xubuntu522What I meant was how much ram,how big of a video card and what Ghz prossesor that it can run minimum.14:31
GridCubexubuntu522, any computed manufacturated in the last decade should run xubuntu 12.04, just not very well in some cases more than others14:32
GridCubea "recommendable" setting though is pentiun IV 1Ghz, 1GB ram, 8mb video14:33
GridCubethe ram needs have grew a lot lately because of web browsers14:34
xubuntu522Well,my computer has only 448mb of ram,a 64mb video card and a 1.86Ghz prossesor.Would that work properly?14:34
GridCubeit will run slow14:34
GridCubeyou can try other alternatives like lubuntu or slitaz14:35
GridCubethe first is part of the *buntu family the second is not14:35
cfhowlettxubuntu522, lubuntu and xubuntu are optimized for older / lower spec machines like yours.14:35
GridCubecfhowlett, that is not completely true14:35
* cfhowlett cocks a suspicious eyebrow. eh?14:36
cfhowlettGridCube, did I misread the literature?14:36
xubuntu522I have already tried lubuntu but this is a old computer and it does not have a internal cd Drive and i cannot get it to boot from a cd,and Wubi always shows a error and downloads two files.14:37
xubuntu522aTwo lubuntu install files I mean.14:37
cfhowlettxubuntu522, wubi is a dying option.  it is possible to boot without cd ...14:38
cfhowlett!install14:39
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate14:39
xubuntu522I also cannot boot from a flash drive14:41
GridCubeuse plop14:41
GridCube!PLOP14:41
cfhowlett!plop14:41
GridCubemmm14:41
GridCubewhy is that not working14:42
cfhowlettwhat the hey is PLOP14:42
slickymaster!info PLOP14:42
ubottuPackage PLOP does not exist in saucy14:42
slickymasterthat's whi GridCube14:42
cfhowlettxubuntu522, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManager14:42
GridCubewww.google.com.ar/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fxubuntu.org%2Fnews%2Fbooting-the-xubuntu-usb-image-from-a-cd%2F&ei=Uj-fUvWyE5besATP3IKgBw&usg=AFQjCNFipl--JFkDD_cn6uADNAL7y2BaBQ&sig2=cBnTjqXYfZVcm6pfsUozVQ14:42
GridCubeno14:42
GridCubehttp://xubuntu.org/news/booting-the-xubuntu-usb-image-from-a-cd/14:42
GridCubeslickymaster, cfhowlett ^14:43
GridCubei dont know why the factoid doesnt work14:43
slickymasteryeah, it's strange14:43
xubuntu522I have Thought of Plop too,but I do not have a internal cd drive and cannot boot from usb.14:43
GridCubewubi would be worst with your specs14:44
ObrienDaveubottu is being finicky this morning14:44
ubottuObrienDave: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:44
ObrienDavesort of LOL14:44
GridCubexubuntu522, do you have a diskette?14:44
* slickymaster slaps ubottu14:44
ObrienDave:P14:45
GridCubecfhowlett, respecting your previous question about the literature, please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/StrategyDocument#The_Target14:46
GridCube:)14:46
cfhowlettGridCube, thanky14:46
xubuntu522Thank You for all your time.14:47
cfhowlettxubuntu522, best of luck.14:47
GridCube:)14:47
cfhowlettGridCube, it seems that running xubuntu on older / lower spec was just a happy accident then ...14:48
GridCubeno, xubuntu is not "meant" to work on old computers, but on all the spectrum, its not optimized for old computers, like lubuntu is.14:50
cfhowlettGridCube, good to know.  I'll adjust my "valuable" advice in the future14:50
GridCube:)14:50
GridCubefor example xubuntu doesnt provide nonPAE kernels anymore14:50
GridCubeso all computers that run non PAE cpus are out of our lists14:51
labyrinth00hi to all anyone around?15:43
ObrienDavealways15:43
labyrinth00great15:43
labyrinth00can you tell me what would stop rc.local from loading my start up commands?15:44
koegslabyrinth00: what did you add?15:45
labyrinth00should i paste it here?15:46
holsteinif the startup command dont work, they wont work there either.. have you tested them outside the startup?15:47
labyrinth00yes if i use each command from terminal it works15:47
labyrinth00no error15:47
labyrinth00but last night it worked this morning it stopped15:48
koegs!paste15:48
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.15:48
labyrinth00i had a login loop issue with xubuntu and delete Xauthority then this happened15:49
labyrinth00ok15:49
labyrinth00http://paste.ubuntu.com/6520366/15:51
holsteinwhat i would do is test as a different user.. make sure its not something with my user /home that is causing the problem15:51
labyrinth00ok ill try that15:52
koegslabyrinth00: please keep in mind, that in rc.local these commands are executed as root, not as your user15:55
Labyrinth00hi the new user didnt work for the auto start16:01
Labyrinth00hi the new user didnt work for the auto start16:02
someguy80so i tried the advice about the power options when the lid closes and it still suspends when i close the lid. any ideas?16:03
krytarikLabyrinth00: <koegs> labyrinth00: please keep in mind, that in rc.local these commands are executed as root, not as your user16:04
Labyrinth00yes i read that but another user suggested i try that16:07
krytarikYeah, I know. :P16:08
holsteinLabyrinth00: i would look into how/why you deleted xauthority..16:08
krytarikHowever, that would only help to check if it only works with your usual user, i.e. the other way around - and you just confirmed that.16:09
someguy80i have tried editing the /etc/systemd/logind.conf file with no luck.16:10
krytarikLabyrinth00: Actually, scratch the very last bit of that, you said you tried the autostart.16:11
holsteinsomeguy80: its usually not ideal for the cooloing of the system to be running with the lid closed.. anyways, i have had a few systems that i just could not get that to work with..16:11
someguy80it works with other distros, just not 13.0116:12
holstein13.1016:12
someguy80uhhh yea thats what i meant16:12
someguy80...16:13
someguy80or not16:13
someguy80ther HAS to be a way16:13
holsteinworks with other distros? or other versions of ubuntu?16:13
someguy80both16:13
someguy80distros and other ubuntus16:13
someguy80its a dell inspiron mini 101216:13
Labyrinth00krytarik: i delete it because i could not log into the system because of some loop after reading all around they said delete the Xauthority  and after that i got into the desktop16:14
koegsif you need vnc from start, i suggest using this guide http://seb.so/vnc-from-boot-without-logging-in-ubuntu-lubuntu-xubuntu-and-mint-lmde/16:15
krytarikLabyrinth00: It wasn't -me- asking that. :P holstein ^^16:15
Labyrinth00lol sorry im at work multi tasking16:15
krytarikNo problem. :)16:16
krytarikLabyrinth00: So, to summarize, make sure that your script works when run as root.16:21
Labyrinth00something like sudo /etc/rc/local?16:23
Labyrinth00something like sudo /etc/rc.local?16:23
krytarikNope, the script you are trying to run -from- it.16:23
Labyrinth00question if you have a bad command in the rc.local would that stop it from working?16:25
koegsit depends, most likely the system will still boot16:26
krytarikLabyrinth00: Yes - http://askubuntu.com/questions/239600/why-doesnt-rc-local-run-all-my-commands-and-what-can-i-do-about-it16:29
krytarikLabyrinth00: That is, it stops executing the commands where it fails first.16:30
holsteinif they dont work, they wont work in there.. could be causing what you might have assumed was a boot loop16:31
xubuntu040anyone installed xubuntu on a stick?16:36
ObrienDaveyep16:37
xubuntu040how big?16:37
Labyrinth00_holstein:  i removed the line with vino and the auto start works16:37
ObrienDave8GB minimum16:37
ObrienDaveam using a 16GB for Xubuntu 32 bit16:37
koegs13.10 installer checks for 5.5GB free space minimum, so i would also recommend 8GB at least16:38
xubuntu040ext4?16:39
ObrienDaveyes16:39
holsteinyou could install with the mini iso and build in just what you need to fit whatever16:39
holstein!mini16:39
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD16:39
xubuntu040thx, i´ll try16:43
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enrico__hi guys, I'm trying to install a .bin file17:39
enrico__i did sudo chmod +x filename17:39
enrico__then ./filename17:40
enrico__also tried u+x17:40
enrico__Istallation starts, until I get this17:40
enrico__/tmp/install.dir.4553/Linux/resource/jre/jre/bin/java: 2: /tmp/install.dir.4553/Linux/resource/jre/jre/bin/java: Syntax error: "(" unexpected17:40
baizonenrico__: please post the whole error message17:53
baizonon paste.ubuntu.com17:53
sku1dhi. i just wanna idle and read a bit.17:56
enrico__in a sec17:58
sku1ditncsss017:58
sku1ddamn :)17:58
enrico__baizon,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6520989/plain/18:04
baizonenrico__: which program is it?18:05
enrico__SPSS18:05
baizonenrico__: try this... http://searchinsleep.blogspot.de/2013/01/install-spss-20-onto-64-bit-ubuntu-1210.html18:06
GridCube!ot | sku1d18:07
ubottusku1d: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!18:07
GridCube:)18:07
enrico__mine is 32 bit18:07
sku1dhow to change my password? :p18:09
bazhang!password | sku1d18:10
ubottusku1d: Forgot your password? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords18:10
sku1dthx18:10
bazhangnp18:10
enrico__I give up, I'll try an older version18:15
ObrienDavesudo password times out in 10 minutes18:16
slickymasterObrienDave: actually by default sudo password timeout is 15 minutes18:25
ObrienDavehmmmm, ok, i'll take your word on that :)18:25
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slickymasterObrienDave: don't intended to be rude. Look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudoTimeout18:27
slickymaster;)18:28
ObrienDaveI believe you, seeing how you're like, number 2 or 3 on the Xubuntu QA testing list :)18:29
slickymasterThat means nothing really18:31
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Peyamstill no solution to 'Make new items in menu' issue?18:54
ochosiPeyam: what's the issue?19:00
Peyamhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alacarte/+bug/124408719:01
ubottuUbuntu bug 1244087 in alacarte (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 13.10 Main Menu editor Problem" [Undecided,Confirmed]19:01
Peyamhttp://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D2188020&ei=7HufUruHBOqH4ATHqYBA&usg=AFQjCNGbs51NWwzuPpettZXGRE9nlgJ1Sg&bvm=bv.57155469,d.bGE19:01
Peyamgotta play some HoN19:05
Peyamc y19:05
* nikolam going crazy with this default focus in xfce19:53
nikolamI have Activate focus stealing prevention and Honor standard ICCCM focus hint selected. And again, with Alt+F2 per example new windows is not in focus (and with other new windows/apps 12.04 lts 32bit19:59
neorpheus_hi there everyone, i was hoping to get some help on a problem im having with skype. i have seen online where people will launch skype from terminal to be able to see the errors but the problem is that i get a different error everytime skype crashes.20:46
neorpheus_usually something to do with alsa though20:47
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sku1dneorpheus: skype can be configured to use pulseaudio in it's settings. try that first. you can also try to start skype with padsp skype, which will simulate a /dev/dsp device, which might be required.21:18
neorpheus_ive noticed that i seem to get "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1022:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave"  pretty often21:22
hellpehello everyone21:23
hellpeI'm using Xubutu Saucy and since a few days, Software Updater has a very strange behavior21:24
hellpeit keeps launching, and crashing, then launching and crashing again21:26
sku1dneorpheus: http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-12042013-102601pm.php21:27
hellpe(also, I have a 30-second lag when typing a message in Xchat right now, very annoying)21:28
neorpheus_sku1d, yeah i dont have pulse audio available21:28
sku1dneorpheus: okay. i c21:28
hellpeI tried to kill dpkg the run dpkg configure -a, but it's stuck on "runnong depmod"21:28
neorpheus_give me a few minutes and ill get a screencap of the available options21:29
pavel_s_cz_Hello there, anybody using lightdm and XDMCPServer? I have strange problem, when I run Xnest -query hostname... :1, where hostname is runing xubuntu 12.04.3 and host's lightdm has settings:[XDMCPServer] enabled=true, I am not able to connect to hostname... lightdm.log on hostname reports only "Connecting to XServer myip:1" .. any help or suggest is apreciated21:31
pavel_s_cz_The Xnest starts the black window.... when I close it after some while on host's lightdm.log is reported: "DEBUG: Error connecting to XServer myip:1; DEBUG: Send Failed(session_id=37387 status='Failed to connect to display :1'"21:34
sku1dneorpheus: i don't know alsa really, but from how i understand the message you posted it might be that your slave-slider is not called "pcm" in which case you must modify $HOME/.alsarc, i think21:35
neorpheus_skuld, yeah i have never had to tangle with alsa before so i really have no idea but if it tells you anything i opened up alsa mixer and i do see a slider called PCM21:37
sku1dneorpheus: try "sudo apt-get install libasound2-plugins:i386"21:41
neorpheus_well, thats a good sign. i actually got the login "swoosh-pop" sound from skype and no errors in the console yet21:44
sku1dneorpheus: skype is compiled for 32 bits in order to run on more platforms. so it is linked to 32bit libs as well. sadly it is statically linked and the libs are loaded by ld. otherwise you can use ldd to find that out.21:46
neorpheus_ok so it looks like it worked except that now i cannot select my usb audio device for a microphone anymore,21:47
neorpheus_ahh that makes sense i have has to get ia-32 libs before to get other programs working21:48
sku1dyou might need something like libusb for 32bit as well21:48
neorpheus_well the microphone was selectable before but it was hit or miss as to whether it would actually work21:49
charles720hi, can someone pls explain me real quick how you "nowadays" configure or edit your graphiccard settings? I once did it in the xorg.conf, but i read since the graphicstuff is now done in the kernel you no longer need that22:18
charles720its been a while since i last confronted myself with linux systems22:18
charles720cause sadly my graphic adapter does not yet show his full 3d potential22:19
charles720tbh though if he even has really potential22:19
charles720should work but i have to say it is an via KN400 chipset22:19
charles720laptop graphic with shared memory22:20
charles720i read it can cause trouble.22:20
holsteincharles720: you can add and edit an xorg.conf.. if you have one that used to work, you could use it to get started22:21
holsteinhowever.. you probably want..22:21
holstein!ati | charles72022:21
ubottucharles720: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto22:21
neorpheus_haha "matrox cards" do those even exist anymore?22:22
charles720its neither nor22:22
charles720sadly22:22
charles720its VIA22:23
charles720but i read that there is a unichrome package that might work22:23
holsteincharles720: i have never had much luck passing 3d to a via chip.. i did use an official driver from via for ubuntu 8.04 that worked well22:23
neorpheus_isnt via usually S3 unichrome22:23
charles720thing is, i am running i think 12.04 atm cause the 13.10 kept crashin22:23
holsteincharles720: the driver is in the kernel AFAIK.. its working now, and is either meeting your needs or not22:23
charles720yeah read that somewhere22:24
charles720atm i am trying to get my head around this22:24
holsteincharles720: you read it here.. its in the kernel. you dont need to add it22:24
holsteinwhat did i do? i used the vesa driver and got rid of the hardware ASAP22:24
charles720its an old laptop i use to get used to linux. as i said, its been a while and i am getting curious again ^^22:25
holsteincharles720: its really this simple.. VIA has not provided you a driver to use the linux operating system and support all the features.. you can ask them for one, or try some of the ones around the web, but its hit & miss22:25
charles720k22:25
holsteincharles720: nothing is preventing you from using linux on it. you can use the vesa driver is the openchrome one is crashing on your hardware with 13.1022:26
charles720but how do i try them now that the graphic stuff in done in the kernel22:26
holstein!nomodeset22:26
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter22:26
holsteinthats an easy way, from a live CD, to test22:26
charles720tried nomodeset, didnt work22:26
holsteincharles720: try what? you can add an xorg.conf22:26
charles720might do that22:26
charles720atm its blank22:26
holsteincharles720: that is the way to do what you are trying to do22:27
charles720on the 13.10 the x -configure did not work22:27
charles720cause it couldnt detect the screens proper and soforth22:27
holsteincharles720: if nomodeset didnt address the issue, then, i would say its something else.. bad ISO.. etc22:27
charles720hmm22:27
charles720but the livecd is a good hint22:27
charles720the 13.10 didnt even let me try xubuntu22:27
holsteincharles720: xconfigure wont work if the driver support is buggy.. but, with the vesa driver forced with an xorg.conf file, all should be wel22:27
charles720but the 12.04 worked straigth away22:27
holsteincharles720: those are different kernels22:28
charles720yeah22:28
charles720thx guys22:28
holsteincharles720: that is what im saying could legitimately be the cause of the black screen.. though, i would test the iso, since nomodeset should get 13.10 booting22:28
charles720was booting from usb22:29
charles720maybe it got corrupted when i converted from iso to img22:29
holsteincharles720: liveCD = live USB.. same iso, i assume22:29
holsteincharles720: test the media and make certain it works.. take it to well supported hardware and see if the stick boots22:30
charles720good point22:30
holsteincharles720: should be no need to convert from iso to img22:30
charles720it said so in the ubuntu help i need to convert for bootable usb22:30
charles720wondered22:31
holsteincharles720: i say so, right here.. this is xubuntu help.. no need to convert22:31
holstein!info unetbootin22:31
ubottuunetbootin (source: unetbootin): installer of Linux/BSD distributions to a partition or USB drive. In component universe, is optional. Version 575-1ubuntu2 (saucy), package size 284 kB, installed size 830 kB22:31
charles720must have slipt past my eyes22:31
holsteinyou can use that, or one of the tools that create a bootable stick22:31
holsteinOR, AFAIK, these days *all* the iso's can be copied with dd straight to the stick22:31
charles720ah ok22:31
holstein!md5 | charles720 this is how to confirm the sum of the image22:32
ubottucharles720 this is how to confirm the sum of the image: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows22:32
charles720then i might give the 13.10 another shot with a stick22:32
holsteinbut, how you make the stick is up to you to sort out.. you can, as suggested, take it to a well supported machine and see that it boots22:32
neorpheus_yay, i finally got my skype fixed. turns out that pulse audio was looking at the wrong usb device for a microphone, thanks so much for the help skuld22:33
holsteinpavucontrol is handy neorpheus_22:33
neorpheus_holstein,  isnt that the panel applet?22:34
holsteinanyways.. you got skype "configured".. not "fixed"22:34
holstein!info pavucontrol22:34
ubottupavucontrol (source: pavucontrol): PulseAudio Volume Control. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-1 (saucy), package size 140 kB, installed size 953 kB22:34
charles720k thx, gotta run, later22:36
oscalationim having troubles with my hdd not working, does xubuntu have any tools on the live cd to inspect, manage, or do something with it to try and fix it?23:45
neorpheussorry i cant be more help but im pretty sure theres stuff in USC to view the hdd smart data23:46
neorpheusas for fixing partitions and the like i would just say to use gparted, but i wouldnt recomend using it unless you are comfortable with the posibility of losing data23:47
oscalationneorpheus i dont think i can install anything as it cant read/write to the drive23:48
oscalationdoes xubuntu have disk utility that has the smart disk check like normal ubuntu?23:48
neorpheusim not certain if anything like that comes preinstalled, give me a second and ill check for you23:48
oscalationneorpheus ty so much23:49
krytarikoscalation: You -can- install stuff in a Live system too, just not endlessly much.23:50
krytarikoscalation: Regardless of that, you may be better of using something like this: http://www.sysresccd.org/23:51
oscalationkrytarik: ah ok didnt knwo that23:51
krytarik*off23:51
neorpheusthanks krytarik i thought you could but i was unsure of myself23:51
David-Aoscalation: if you don't have Disk Utility in the program menu in the live-cd session, try search for Disk Utility or palimpsest in the software center.23:58
David-Aoscalation: or if you like the terminal, there is smartctl23:58

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