[02:33] <hugomagic> hi
[02:38] <hugomagic> I was trying to install netflix and my terminal stop totally downloading firefox. I did a reboot, now I see that I have new updates so Im supossed to do a partial distribution upgrade but the terminal still showing trying to download firefox just trying and not doing it therefore I cant complete the updates.
[02:38] <holstein> !netflix
[02:38] <holstein> the terminal shouldnt be downloading firefox
[02:39] <hugomagic> supossedly is one of the steps
[02:39] <holstein> hugomagic: there are no "official" steps.. but, you can share what you are looking at
[02:40] <hugomagic> I wish I was able to copy and paste from the terminal but I dont know how
[02:41] <Unit193> Select with mouse, right click, copy.
[02:41] <hugomagic> I'll give it a try
[02:42] <holstein> hugomagic: you can share the link you are reffering to, that you are implying requires you to use the terminal to download firefox
[02:44] <Unit193> holstein: It's silverlight in wine, thus needs firefox in wine to use the silverlight extension.
[02:45] <hugomagic> exactly
[02:45] <Unit193> !pastebin
[02:45] <ball> !spleen
[02:49] <Unit193> hugomagic: Figured out how to copy from the terminal?
[02:50] <hugomagic> I will put a screenshot on the link above
[02:54] <hugomagic> I put the screenshot already on imagebin.org under the name distribution upgrade
[02:54] <hugomagic> http://imagebin.org/280439
[02:58] <Unit193> v22.0?
[03:01] <hugomagic> yes and there is where it stop totally and it does not continue with the next steps.
[03:02] <Unit193> I think that may be a bug perhaps, if it needs a newer version?  I do not know, isn't there a #netflix-desktop or something?
[03:05] <hugomagic> This is the page I went to get the info on how to get netflix http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/11/netflix-on-ubuntu-is-here.html
[03:05] <holstein> !netflix | hugomagic
[03:05] <hugomagic> Sorry I am very new to linux
[03:06] <holstein> that is the place i refer to
[03:08] <hugomagic> I was following the steps but I'm stuck there installing firefox
[03:09] <hugomagic> is there anything I can do to revert the process and go back to a stable state?
[03:09] <Unit193> Yeah, might be better to ask in #netflix-desktop
[03:09] <Unit193> You can purge it.
[03:09] <hugomagic> ohh
[03:10] <holstein> you should purge it
[03:10] <hugomagic> ok
[03:11] <hugomagic> is there a special command to do that? Do just write the word purge on the terminal?
[03:13] <hugomagic> I did write purge and then enter but nothing is happening.
[03:13] <Unit193> sudo apt-get purge netflix-desktop
[03:13] <hugomagic> oh cool
[04:10] <Poisoned_Dragon> grrr
[04:10] <Poisoned_Dragon> oops, wrong window
[10:38] <someguy80> has anyone here been able to install MS Office 2010 in xubuntu 13.01?
[10:39] <bazhang> check the appdb and then join #winehq
[10:40] <bazhang> !appdb | someguy80
[10:40] <someguy80> !appdb
[10:41] <baizon> someguy80: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=18487
[10:41] <bazhang> http://appdb.winehq.org   <----- someguy80
[10:41] <bazhang> someguy80, after checking that link, then /join #winehq for support
[10:41] <someguy80> thank you. I was just wondering if there were any xubuntu specific issues in doing so.
[10:42] <baizon> someguy80: 32bit http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=17336
[10:42] <baizon> it seems the 32bit is working, the 64bit version not really
[10:43] <cfhowlett> someguy80, wine is pretty much distro agnostic
[10:43] <someguy80> thank you again
[10:43] <baizon> no problem
[10:43] <someguy80> the dr. pepper of software
[13:09] <Jaime-Xubuntu> hello
[13:10] <cfhowlett> Jaime-Xubuntu, greetings
[13:10] <Jaime-Xubuntu> im triying to use my hdmi sound but i have no audio
[13:10] <Jaime-Xubuntu> Thanks
[13:10] <Jaime-Xubuntu> i have aspire one 722
[13:10] <Jaime-Xubuntu> somebody can help me?
[13:11] <Jaime-Xubuntu> how to configure hmdi sound to aspire one 722 xubuntu 13.10
[13:11] <gr0nt> I absolutely cannot get libudev.so.1 to work
[13:11] <gr0nt> Im about to smash my rig
[13:12] <gr0nt> Sudo apt-get install libudev1 --- package not found
[13:12] <cfhowlett> gr0nt, wouldn't advise it
[13:12] <gr0nt> Nothing on google works
[13:12] <cfhowlett> gr0nt, I'm on 12.04, all repos enabled.  it ain't there.
[13:13] <cfhowlett> gr0nt, suggest you search for libudev*
[13:13] <Jaime-Xubuntu> how to configure hmdi sound to aspire one 722 xubuntu 13.10
[13:13] <gr0nt> Its installed cf
[13:15] <gr0nt> Im about to switch distro, wasted hours
[13:15] <PiiiRKO> gr0nt: xubuntu is best lightweight ubuntu distro.. but.. its up to you..
[13:16] <Jaime-Xubuntu> bye, some request on jaimeirazabal1@gmail.com <-
[13:17] <cfhowlett> gr0nt, free = free to choose what works
[13:17] <gr0nt> Good point.
[13:17] <krytarik> gr0nt: It's available on every version later than 12.04.
[13:18] <gr0nt> Im on 13.10
[13:19] <Sysi-> !info libudev1
[13:19] <cfhowlett> Sysi-, why doesn't this show up on apt-cache policy?
[13:19] <cfhowlett> d'0h!  later than 12.04
[13:20] <cfhowlett> !cookie|Sysi-,
[13:20] <Sysi-> on 12.04 you have just libudev0
[13:20] <Sysi-> gr0nt: you did sudo apt-get update of course?
[13:21] <gr0nt> Update and upgrade
[13:21] <Sysi-> if you're compiling you might need libudev-dev
[13:21] <gr0nt> Im pulling up the actual error message...
[13:22] <cfhowlett> gr0nt, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade might pull it iin
[13:22] <cfhowlett> in
[13:23] <gr0nt> Error while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.1: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory
[13:23] <gr0nt> Most of the google results have me creating symlinks... Which didnt work
[13:24] <gr0nt> Gonna try that cfh
[13:30] <gr0nt> No luck, very sad :(
[13:31] <cfhowlett> gr0nt, sorry.  compile yourself? or get libudev-dev as Sysi suggested?
[13:32] <gr0nt> Not even sure where to get source
[13:32] <gr0nt> This thing is like vaporware
[13:33] <krytarik> gr0nt: You should find that it's installed already: "locate libudev.so.0".
[13:33] <krytarik> Oops, wrong version :)
[13:34] <gr0nt> Yes you are right
[13:35] <cfhowlett> gr0nt, apt-cache search libudeve will show you
[13:35] <cfhowlett> libudev
[13:35] <gr0nt> I mustve done so.0 and so.13.0
[13:35] <ObrienDave> https://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit/wiki/The-solution-of-lacking-libudev.so.0
[13:35] <ObrienDave> did you see this?
[13:35] <gr0nt> Yes i did, dave
[13:36] <ObrienDave> k
[13:36] <gr0nt> Thank u very much
[13:37] <gr0nt> So the command is
[13:37] <gr0nt> # ln -s /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libudev.so.1 ./libudev.so.0
[13:37] <gr0nt> Symbolic link from my understanding
[13:37] <koegs> gr0nt: which ubuntu-version do you use? 13.10
[13:37] <gr0nt> Ive typed in what you suggested krytarik
[13:37] <gr0nt> Yes 13.10 64bit
[13:38] <koegs> and you need libudev.so.1 or libudev.so.0?
[13:38] <gr0nt> My error message is:
[13:38] <gr0nt> (gr0nt) Error while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.1: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory
[13:39] <koegs> what was the result of "sudo apt-get install libudev1"?
[13:39] <gr0nt> Is my ln -s command backwards?
[13:40] <gr0nt> Unable to locate package.
[13:40] <krytarik> gr0nt: Wait, you got a result on the exact command I posted?
[13:41] <gr0nt> 'Locate libudev'
[13:41] <gr0nt> Yes i got some results, nothing so.1 though
[13:41] <krytarik> gr0nt: Because I missed to adapt the version the one you are looking for, as I mentioned there.
[13:42] <koegs> "locate libudev.so.1"
[13:42] <krytarik> gr0nt: That is, if you get a result for that there, you likely aren't on 13.10.
[13:42] <koegs> and also "sudo apt-get install libudev1" should work too, or you are not on ubuntu 13.10, as krytarik said :)
[13:42] <gr0nt> 0 results, koegs
[13:42] <gr0nt> Xubuntu
[13:43] <gr0nt> I promise it doesnt work :) lol
[13:43] <koegs> does not matter, please show the result of "lsb_release -a"
[13:43] <gr0nt> Simply says, package not found
[13:43] <gr0nt> One moment koegs
[13:44] <gr0nt> What the?!?!?!  12.04.3 LTS
[13:44] <gr0nt> }:(  oh lord...
[13:44] <krytarik> lol
[13:44] <cfhowlett> LOLOL!
[13:44] <koegs> QED :)
[13:44] <ObrienDave> that would explain a lot ;))
[13:44] <cfhowlett> gr0nt, not laughing at you, laughing with you ...
[13:45] <gr0nt> Sorry guys.  Feel really bad about this one
[13:45] <PiiiRKO> :DDD
[13:45] <gr0nt> Im laughing at me
[13:45] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, that would explain ALL - except why you thought you were running 13.10
[13:45] <ObrienDave> made for an exciting morning :)
[13:45] <gr0nt> Whats my course of action, 13.10 fresh install?
[13:45] <ObrienDave> i am running 13.10 ;P
[13:46] <cfhowlett> gr0nt, now aren't you glad you didn't trash your box as you threatened?  I think you owe your faithful machine an apology
[13:46] <cfhowlett> and a fresh 13.10
[13:46] <gr0nt> Yes i do...  * im sowwy guy *
[13:46] <ObrienDave> *your 'puter forgives you*
[13:47] <gr0nt> I have a secret, havent slept in 28 hours.  This is the problem i think
[13:47] <cfhowlett> gr0nt, best thing to do is get some shuteye.  Come back MUCH later and start over.  Your present condition is almost guaranteed to lead to disaster.
[13:49] <gr0nt> I ended up with isos for 12.04 and 12.10 my brain read that as 13.10... Over and over and over.... Sorry guys.
[13:50] <gr0nt> Thanks for the help, still laughing, smh.
[13:51] <gr0nt> Then i didnt even install the iso i thought was 13.10 ... Youre right cfh
[13:51] <gr0nt> Time for sleep :)
[13:51] <cfhowlett> gr0nt, go to bed
[13:52] <gr0nt> I appreciate the help
[13:53] <ObrienDave> wait until you get cfhowlett's bill ;)
[13:56] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, paypal and bitcoin accepted.  conversion to Chinese yuan appreciated
[13:59] <ObrienDave> LOL
[14:01] <ObrienDave> i should bite my tongue about your bill, especially after last weeks fiasco ;P
[14:17] <someguy80> hello. i have  a dell inspiron mini 1012 with xubuntu 13.01 on it. i have the power options set to do nothing when i shut the lid for a/c and battery. but when i shut it it throws it into sleep or standby. can anyone help?
[14:17] <cfhowlett> someguy80, /swap?
[14:18] <someguy80> hello. i have  a dell inspiron mini 1012 with xubuntu 13.01 on it. i have the power options set to do nothing when i shut the lid for a/c
[14:18] <someguy80> for some reason that msg got split up
[14:18] <cfhowlett> someguy80, so ... no /swap?
[14:19] <someguy80> what do you mean? sorry still a noob
[14:21] <cfhowlett> !swap
[14:21] <GridCube> someguy80, http://askubuntu.com/questions/362667/xubuntu-13-10-disabling-suspend-on-lid-being-closed
[14:22] <cfhowlett> GridCube, thanks.  think you nailed it.
[14:22] <someguy80> well, i know what a swap file is, but i don't know what it has to do with this *feeling dumb*
[14:22] <someguy80> yea thanks gridcube
[14:22] <cfhowlett> someguy80, I may have misconspoke.  please see gridcube's suggestion
[14:23] <someguy80> and thank you as well cf
[14:26] <xubuntu522> what are Xubuntu 12.04 LTS specifications?
[14:27] <cfhowlett> xubuntu522, specs?  you mean ... what exactly?
[14:27] <cfhowlett> there are MANY specifications.
[14:28] <GridCube> xubuntu522, it depends on what you need to do
[14:29] <GridCube> but xubuntu "will" run in very low specs, like 5GB hd and 256MB ram, but that will be slooooooooooooow as a snail
[14:31] <xubuntu522> What I meant was how much ram,how big of a video card and what Ghz prossesor that it can run minimum.
[14:32] <GridCube> xubuntu522, any computed manufacturated in the last decade should run xubuntu 12.04, just not very well in some cases more than others
[14:33] <GridCube> a "recommendable" setting though is pentiun IV 1Ghz, 1GB ram, 8mb video
[14:34] <GridCube> the ram needs have grew a lot lately because of web browsers
[14:34] <xubuntu522> Well,my computer has only 448mb of ram,a 64mb video card and a 1.86Ghz prossesor.Would that work properly?
[14:34] <GridCube> it will run slow
[14:35] <GridCube> you can try other alternatives like lubuntu or slitaz
[14:35] <GridCube> the first is part of the *buntu family the second is not
[14:35] <cfhowlett> xubuntu522, lubuntu and xubuntu are optimized for older / lower spec machines like yours.
[14:35] <GridCube> cfhowlett, that is not completely true
[14:36]  * cfhowlett cocks a suspicious eyebrow.  eh?
[14:36] <cfhowlett> GridCube, did I misread the literature?
[14:37] <xubuntu522> I have already tried lubuntu but this is a old computer and it does not have a internal cd Drive and i cannot get it to boot from a cd,and Wubi always shows a error and downloads two files.
[14:37] <xubuntu522> aTwo lubuntu install files I mean.
[14:38] <cfhowlett> xubuntu522, wubi is a dying option.  it is possible to boot without cd ...
[14:39] <cfhowlett> !install
[14:41] <xubuntu522> I also cannot boot from a flash drive
[14:41] <GridCube> use plop
[14:41] <GridCube> !PLOP
[14:41] <cfhowlett> !plop
[14:41] <GridCube> mmm
[14:42] <GridCube> why is that not working
[14:42] <cfhowlett> what the hey is PLOP
[14:42] <slickymaster> !info PLOP
[14:42] <slickymaster> that's whi GridCube
[14:42] <cfhowlett> xubuntu522, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManager
[14:42] <GridCube> www.google.com.ar/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fxubuntu.org%2Fnews%2Fbooting-the-xubuntu-usb-image-from-a-cd%2F&ei=Uj-fUvWyE5besATP3IKgBw&usg=AFQjCNFipl--JFkDD_cn6uADNAL7y2BaBQ&sig2=cBnTjqXYfZVcm6pfsUozVQ
[14:42] <GridCube> no
[14:42] <GridCube> http://xubuntu.org/news/booting-the-xubuntu-usb-image-from-a-cd/
[14:43] <GridCube> slickymaster, cfhowlett ^
[14:43] <GridCube> i dont know why the factoid doesnt work
[14:43] <slickymaster> yeah, it's strange
[14:43] <xubuntu522> I have Thought of Plop too,but I do not have a internal cd drive and cannot boot from usb.
[14:44] <GridCube> wubi would be worst with your specs
[14:44] <ObrienDave> ubottu is being finicky this morning
[14:44] <ObrienDave> sort of LOL
[14:44] <GridCube> xubuntu522, do you have a diskette?
[14:44]  * slickymaster slaps ubottu
[14:45] <ObrienDave> :P
[14:46] <GridCube> cfhowlett, respecting your previous question about the literature, please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/StrategyDocument#The_Target
[14:46] <GridCube> :)
[14:46] <cfhowlett> GridCube, thanky
[14:47] <xubuntu522> Thank You for all your time.
[14:47] <cfhowlett> xubuntu522, best of luck.
[14:47] <GridCube> :)
[14:48] <cfhowlett> GridCube, it seems that running xubuntu on older / lower spec was just a happy accident then ...
[14:50] <GridCube> no, xubuntu is not "meant" to work on old computers, but on all the spectrum, its not optimized for old computers, like lubuntu is.
[14:50] <cfhowlett> GridCube, good to know.  I'll adjust my "valuable" advice in the future
[14:50] <GridCube> :)
[14:50] <GridCube> for example xubuntu doesnt provide nonPAE kernels anymore
[14:51] <GridCube> so all computers that run non PAE cpus are out of our lists
[15:43] <labyrinth00> hi to all anyone around?
[15:43] <ObrienDave> always
[15:43] <labyrinth00> great
[15:44] <labyrinth00> can you tell me what would stop rc.local from loading my start up commands?
[15:45] <koegs> labyrinth00: what did you add?
[15:46] <labyrinth00> should i paste it here?
[15:47] <holstein> if the startup command dont work, they wont work there either.. have you tested them outside the startup?
[15:47] <labyrinth00> yes if i use each command from terminal it works
[15:47] <labyrinth00> no error
[15:48] <labyrinth00> but last night it worked this morning it stopped
[15:48] <koegs> !paste
[15:49] <labyrinth00> i had a login loop issue with xubuntu and delete Xauthority then this happened
[15:49] <labyrinth00> ok
[15:51] <labyrinth00> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6520366/
[15:51] <holstein> what i would do is test as a different user.. make sure its not something with my user /home that is causing the problem
[15:52] <labyrinth00> ok ill try that
[15:55] <koegs> labyrinth00: please keep in mind, that in rc.local these commands are executed as root, not as your user
[16:01] <Labyrinth00> hi the new user didnt work for the auto start
[16:02] <Labyrinth00> hi the new user didnt work for the auto start
[16:03] <someguy80> so i tried the advice about the power options when the lid closes and it still suspends when i close the lid. any ideas?
[16:04] <krytarik> Labyrinth00: <koegs> labyrinth00: please keep in mind, that in rc.local these commands are executed as root, not as your user
[16:07] <Labyrinth00> yes i read that but another user suggested i try that
[16:08] <krytarik> Yeah, I know. :P
[16:08] <holstein> Labyrinth00: i would look into how/why you deleted xauthority..
[16:09] <krytarik> However, that would only help to check if it only works with your usual user, i.e. the other way around - and you just confirmed that.
[16:10] <someguy80> i have tried editing the /etc/systemd/logind.conf file with no luck.
[16:11] <krytarik> Labyrinth00: Actually, scratch the very last bit of that, you said you tried the autostart.
[16:11] <holstein> someguy80: its usually not ideal for the cooloing of the system to be running with the lid closed.. anyways, i have had a few systems that i just could not get that to work with..
[16:12] <someguy80> it works with other distros, just not 13.01
[16:12] <holstein> 13.10
[16:12] <someguy80> uhhh yea thats what i meant
[16:13] <someguy80> ...
[16:13] <someguy80> or not
[16:13] <someguy80> ther HAS to be a way
[16:13] <holstein> works with other distros? or other versions of ubuntu?
[16:13] <someguy80> both
[16:13] <someguy80> distros and other ubuntus
[16:13] <someguy80> its a dell inspiron mini 1012
[16:14] <Labyrinth00> krytarik: i delete it because i could not log into the system because of some loop after reading all around they said delete the Xauthority  and after that i got into the desktop
[16:15] <koegs> if you need vnc from start, i suggest using this guide http://seb.so/vnc-from-boot-without-logging-in-ubuntu-lubuntu-xubuntu-and-mint-lmde/
[16:15] <krytarik> Labyrinth00: It wasn't -me- asking that. :P holstein ^^
[16:15] <Labyrinth00> lol sorry im at work multi tasking
[16:16] <krytarik> No problem. :)
[16:21] <krytarik> Labyrinth00: So, to summarize, make sure that your script works when run as root.
[16:23] <Labyrinth00> something like sudo /etc/rc/local?
[16:23] <Labyrinth00> something like sudo /etc/rc.local?
[16:23] <krytarik> Nope, the script you are trying to run -from- it.
[16:25] <Labyrinth00> question if you have a bad command in the rc.local would that stop it from working?
[16:26] <koegs> it depends, most likely the system will still boot
[16:29] <krytarik> Labyrinth00: Yes - http://askubuntu.com/questions/239600/why-doesnt-rc-local-run-all-my-commands-and-what-can-i-do-about-it
[16:30] <krytarik> Labyrinth00: That is, it stops executing the commands where it fails first.
[16:31] <holstein> if they dont work, they wont work in there.. could be causing what you might have assumed was a boot loop
[16:36] <xubuntu040> anyone installed xubuntu on a stick?
[16:37] <ObrienDave> yep
[16:37] <xubuntu040> how big?
[16:37] <Labyrinth00_> holstein:  i removed the line with vino and the auto start works
[16:37] <ObrienDave> 8GB minimum
[16:37] <ObrienDave> am using a 16GB for Xubuntu 32 bit
[16:38] <koegs> 13.10 installer checks for 5.5GB free space minimum, so i would also recommend 8GB at least
[16:39] <xubuntu040> ext4?
[16:39] <ObrienDave> yes
[16:39] <holstein> you could install with the mini iso and build in just what you need to fit whatever
[16:39] <holstein> !mini
[16:43] <xubuntu040> thx, i´ll try
[17:39] <enrico__> hi guys, I'm trying to install a .bin file
[17:39] <enrico__> i did sudo chmod +x filename
[17:40] <enrico__> then ./filename
[17:40] <enrico__> also tried u+x
[17:40] <enrico__> Istallation starts, until I get this
[17:40] <enrico__> /tmp/install.dir.4553/Linux/resource/jre/jre/bin/java: 2: /tmp/install.dir.4553/Linux/resource/jre/jre/bin/java: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[17:53] <baizon> enrico__: please post the whole error message
[17:53] <baizon> on paste.ubuntu.com
[17:56] <sku1d> hi. i just wanna idle and read a bit.
[17:58] <enrico__> in a sec
[17:58] <sku1d> itncsss0
[17:58] <sku1d> damn :)
[18:04] <enrico__> baizon,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6520989/plain/
[18:05] <baizon> enrico__: which program is it?
[18:05] <enrico__> SPSS
[18:06] <baizon> enrico__: try this... http://searchinsleep.blogspot.de/2013/01/install-spss-20-onto-64-bit-ubuntu-1210.html
[18:07] <GridCube> !ot | sku1d
[18:07] <GridCube> :)
[18:07] <enrico__> mine is 32 bit
[18:09] <sku1d> how to change my password? :p
[18:10] <bazhang> !password | sku1d
[18:10] <sku1d> thx
[18:10] <bazhang> np
[18:15] <enrico__> I give up, I'll try an older version
[18:16] <ObrienDave> sudo password times out in 10 minutes
[18:25] <slickymaster> ObrienDave: actually by default sudo password timeout is 15 minutes
[18:25] <ObrienDave> hmmmm, ok, i'll take your word on that :)
[18:27] <slickymaster> ObrienDave: don't intended to be rude. Look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudoTimeout
[18:28] <slickymaster> ;)
[18:29] <ObrienDave> I believe you, seeing how you're like, number 2 or 3 on the Xubuntu QA testing list :)
[18:31] <slickymaster> That means nothing really
[18:54] <Peyam> still no solution to 'Make new items in menu' issue?
[19:00] <ochosi> Peyam: what's the issue?
[19:01] <Peyam> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alacarte/+bug/1244087
[19:01] <Peyam> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D2188020&ei=7HufUruHBOqH4ATHqYBA&usg=AFQjCNGbs51NWwzuPpettZXGRE9nlgJ1Sg&bvm=bv.57155469,d.bGE
[19:05] <Peyam> gotta play some HoN
[19:05] <Peyam> c y
[19:53]  * nikolam going crazy with this default focus in xfce
[19:59] <nikolam> I have Activate focus stealing prevention and Honor standard ICCCM focus hint selected. And again, with Alt+F2 per example new windows is not in focus (and with other new windows/apps 12.04 lts 32bit
[20:46] <neorpheus_> hi there everyone, i was hoping to get some help on a problem im having with skype. i have seen online where people will launch skype from terminal to be able to see the errors but the problem is that i get a different error everytime skype crashes.
[20:47] <neorpheus_> usually something to do with alsa though
[21:18] <sku1d> neorpheus: skype can be configured to use pulseaudio in it's settings. try that first. you can also try to start skype with padsp skype, which will simulate a /dev/dsp device, which might be required.
[21:22] <neorpheus_> ive noticed that i seem to get "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1022:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave"  pretty often
[21:23] <hellpe> hello everyone
[21:24] <hellpe> I'm using Xubutu Saucy and since a few days, Software Updater has a very strange behavior
[21:26] <hellpe> it keeps launching, and crashing, then launching and crashing again
[21:27] <sku1d> neorpheus: http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-12042013-102601pm.php
[21:28] <hellpe> (also, I have a 30-second lag when typing a message in Xchat right now, very annoying)
[21:28] <neorpheus_> sku1d, yeah i dont have pulse audio available
[21:28] <sku1d> neorpheus: okay. i c
[21:28] <hellpe> I tried to kill dpkg the run dpkg configure -a, but it's stuck on "runnong depmod"
[21:29] <neorpheus_> give me a few minutes and ill get a screencap of the available options
[21:31] <pavel_s_cz_> Hello there, anybody using lightdm and XDMCPServer? I have strange problem, when I run Xnest -query hostname... :1, where hostname is runing xubuntu 12.04.3 and host's lightdm has settings:[XDMCPServer] enabled=true, I am not able to connect to hostname... lightdm.log on hostname reports only "Connecting to XServer myip:1" .. any help or suggest is apreciated
[21:34] <pavel_s_cz_> The Xnest starts the black window.... when I close it after some while on host's lightdm.log is reported: "DEBUG: Error connecting to XServer myip:1; DEBUG: Send Failed(session_id=37387 status='Failed to connect to display :1'"
[21:35] <sku1d> neorpheus: i don't know alsa really, but from how i understand the message you posted it might be that your slave-slider is not called "pcm" in which case you must modify $HOME/.alsarc, i think
[21:37] <neorpheus_> skuld, yeah i have never had to tangle with alsa before so i really have no idea but if it tells you anything i opened up alsa mixer and i do see a slider called PCM
[21:41] <sku1d> neorpheus: try "sudo apt-get install libasound2-plugins:i386"
[21:44] <neorpheus_> well, thats a good sign. i actually got the login "swoosh-pop" sound from skype and no errors in the console yet
[21:46] <sku1d> neorpheus: skype is compiled for 32 bits in order to run on more platforms. so it is linked to 32bit libs as well. sadly it is statically linked and the libs are loaded by ld. otherwise you can use ldd to find that out.
[21:47] <neorpheus_> ok so it looks like it worked except that now i cannot select my usb audio device for a microphone anymore,
[21:48] <neorpheus_> ahh that makes sense i have has to get ia-32 libs before to get other programs working
[21:48] <sku1d> you might need something like libusb for 32bit as well
[21:49] <neorpheus_> well the microphone was selectable before but it was hit or miss as to whether it would actually work
[22:18] <charles720> hi, can someone pls explain me real quick how you "nowadays" configure or edit your graphiccard settings? I once did it in the xorg.conf, but i read since the graphicstuff is now done in the kernel you no longer need that
[22:18] <charles720> its been a while since i last confronted myself with linux systems
[22:19] <charles720> cause sadly my graphic adapter does not yet show his full 3d potential
[22:19] <charles720> tbh though if he even has really potential
[22:19] <charles720> should work but i have to say it is an via KN400 chipset
[22:20] <charles720> laptop graphic with shared memory
[22:20] <charles720> i read it can cause trouble.
[22:21] <holstein> charles720: you can add and edit an xorg.conf.. if you have one that used to work, you could use it to get started
[22:21] <holstein> however.. you probably want..
[22:21] <holstein> !ati | charles720
[22:22] <neorpheus_> haha "matrox cards" do those even exist anymore?
[22:22] <charles720> its neither nor
[22:22] <charles720> sadly
[22:23] <charles720> its VIA
[22:23] <charles720> but i read that there is a unichrome package that might work
[22:23] <holstein> charles720: i have never had much luck passing 3d to a via chip.. i did use an official driver from via for ubuntu 8.04 that worked well
[22:23] <neorpheus_> isnt via usually S3 unichrome
[22:23] <charles720> thing is, i am running i think 12.04 atm cause the 13.10 kept crashin
[22:23] <holstein> charles720: the driver is in the kernel AFAIK.. its working now, and is either meeting your needs or not
[22:24] <charles720> yeah read that somewhere
[22:24] <charles720> atm i am trying to get my head around this
[22:24] <holstein> charles720: you read it here.. its in the kernel. you dont need to add it
[22:24] <holstein> what did i do? i used the vesa driver and got rid of the hardware ASAP
[22:25] <charles720> its an old laptop i use to get used to linux. as i said, its been a while and i am getting curious again ^^
[22:25] <holstein> charles720: its really this simple.. VIA has not provided you a driver to use the linux operating system and support all the features.. you can ask them for one, or try some of the ones around the web, but its hit & miss
[22:25] <charles720> k
[22:26] <holstein> charles720: nothing is preventing you from using linux on it. you can use the vesa driver is the openchrome one is crashing on your hardware with 13.10
[22:26] <charles720> but how do i try them now that the graphic stuff in done in the kernel
[22:26] <holstein> !nomodeset
[22:26] <holstein> thats an easy way, from a live CD, to test
[22:26] <charles720> tried nomodeset, didnt work
[22:26] <holstein> charles720: try what? you can add an xorg.conf
[22:26] <charles720> might do that
[22:26] <charles720> atm its blank
[22:27] <holstein> charles720: that is the way to do what you are trying to do
[22:27] <charles720> on the 13.10 the x -configure did not work
[22:27] <charles720> cause it couldnt detect the screens proper and soforth
[22:27] <holstein> charles720: if nomodeset didnt address the issue, then, i would say its something else.. bad ISO.. etc
[22:27] <charles720> hmm
[22:27] <charles720> but the livecd is a good hint
[22:27] <charles720> the 13.10 didnt even let me try xubuntu
[22:27] <holstein> charles720: xconfigure wont work if the driver support is buggy.. but, with the vesa driver forced with an xorg.conf file, all should be wel
[22:27] <charles720> but the 12.04 worked straigth away
[22:28] <holstein> charles720: those are different kernels
[22:28] <charles720> yeah
[22:28] <charles720> thx guys
[22:28] <holstein> charles720: that is what im saying could legitimately be the cause of the black screen.. though, i would test the iso, since nomodeset should get 13.10 booting
[22:29] <charles720> was booting from usb
[22:29] <charles720> maybe it got corrupted when i converted from iso to img
[22:29] <holstein> charles720: liveCD = live USB.. same iso, i assume
[22:30] <holstein> charles720: test the media and make certain it works.. take it to well supported hardware and see if the stick boots
[22:30] <charles720> good point
[22:30] <holstein> charles720: should be no need to convert from iso to img
[22:30] <charles720> it said so in the ubuntu help i need to convert for bootable usb
[22:31] <charles720> wondered
[22:31] <holstein> charles720: i say so, right here.. this is xubuntu help.. no need to convert
[22:31] <holstein> !info unetbootin
[22:31] <charles720> must have slipt past my eyes
[22:31] <holstein> you can use that, or one of the tools that create a bootable stick
[22:31] <holstein> OR, AFAIK, these days *all* the iso's can be copied with dd straight to the stick
[22:31] <charles720> ah ok
[22:32] <holstein> !md5 | charles720 this is how to confirm the sum of the image
[22:32] <charles720> then i might give the 13.10 another shot with a stick
[22:32] <holstein> but, how you make the stick is up to you to sort out.. you can, as suggested, take it to a well supported machine and see that it boots
[22:33] <neorpheus_> yay, i finally got my skype fixed. turns out that pulse audio was looking at the wrong usb device for a microphone, thanks so much for the help skuld
[22:33] <holstein> pavucontrol is handy neorpheus_
[22:34] <neorpheus_> holstein,  isnt that the panel applet?
[22:34] <holstein> anyways.. you got skype "configured".. not "fixed"
[22:34] <holstein> !info pavucontrol
[22:36] <charles720> k thx, gotta run, later
[23:45] <oscalation> im having troubles with my hdd not working, does xubuntu have any tools on the live cd to inspect, manage, or do something with it to try and fix it?
[23:46] <neorpheus> sorry i cant be more help but im pretty sure theres stuff in USC to view the hdd smart data
[23:47] <neorpheus> as for fixing partitions and the like i would just say to use gparted, but i wouldnt recomend using it unless you are comfortable with the posibility of losing data
[23:48] <oscalation> neorpheus i dont think i can install anything as it cant read/write to the drive
[23:48] <oscalation> does xubuntu have disk utility that has the smart disk check like normal ubuntu?
[23:48] <neorpheus> im not certain if anything like that comes preinstalled, give me a second and ill check for you
[23:49] <oscalation> neorpheus ty so much
[23:50] <krytarik> oscalation: You -can- install stuff in a Live system too, just not endlessly much.
[23:51] <krytarik> oscalation: Regardless of that, you may be better of using something like this: http://www.sysresccd.org/
[23:51] <oscalation> krytarik: ah ok didnt knwo that
[23:51] <krytarik> *off
[23:51] <neorpheus> thanks krytarik i thought you could but i was unsure of myself
[23:58] <David-A> oscalation: if you don't have Disk Utility in the program menu in the live-cd session, try search for Disk Utility or palimpsest in the software center.
[23:58] <David-A> oscalation: or if you like the terminal, there is smartctl