| alesan | hi, is Kubuntu using pulseaudio ??? | 00:22 |
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| gannondorf | Saluton kubuntu! | 00:34 |
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| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:21 |
| soee | good morning | 08:13 |
| decepary | hey. | 08:31 |
| decepary | what's up? | 08:34 |
| MJ2363 | hi every1 | 08:56 |
| MJ2363 | how can I purge all gnome packages in order to install kde-desktop? | 08:56 |
| valorie | you need not purge anything to install the kde-desktop, if you don't want to | 08:57 |
| MJ2363 | yes I know... | 08:57 |
| hateball | !purekde | 08:57 |
| ubottu | If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde » | 08:57 |
| MJ2363 | but I would like to remove gnome for space puroposes | 08:57 |
| valorie | ok | 08:57 |
| hateball | note the versions ^ | 08:58 |
| MJ2363 | are those for 13.10? | 08:58 |
| MJ2363 | I think thery are a bit outdated :( | 08:58 |
| skramer_ | Hi all. I have a rather stupid question today: How can I force apps that I ran by 'kdesudo ...' to have same look as if I ran them as normal user? | 09:13 |
| hateball | skramer_: You could set the desktop theme for root I suppose | 09:15 |
| hateball | assuming they are qt applications | 09:16 |
| skramer_ | Ok. So I should do 'kdesudo systemsttings' and then select same them for window decoration, etc.? | 09:16 |
| skramer_ | Gtk apps will look bit different, anyway. But that´s no problem :) | 09:17 |
| valorie | skramer_: it's rather dangerous to run stuff as root | 09:17 |
| skramer_ | valorie: I´m quite aware that no program should not be run as root normally. Still, sometimes I need to edit some file in /etc. So 'kdesudo kate file' should make me able editing the file, but I want to have kate looking same as if I ran it as my normal user... | 09:21 |
| valorie | ok, as long as you are aware | 09:21 |
| skramer_ | :) | 09:21 |
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| serj | re | 11:52 |
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| taduro__ | sup guys | 12:44 |
| taduro__ | when I log in with my user | 12:44 |
| taduro__ | the screen goes black | 12:44 |
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| taduro__ | any ideas? :( | 12:44 |
| monkeyjuice | what you using taduro__ 13.**? | 12:46 |
| monkeyjuice | taduro__: did it work?, what made it stop working?, did you upgrade?, ect | 12:48 |
| taduro__ | 13.10 monkeyjuice | 12:48 |
| taduro__ | monkeyjuice: nothing, I was in class, I switched off my computer | 12:49 |
| taduro__ | and when I arrived at home.. | 12:49 |
| taduro__ | surprise | 12:49 |
| monkeyjuice | been looking for help online taduro__ there are a few bugs it seems , hoping someone else will jump in and help you with this.. | 12:56 |
| taduro__ | ok thank you very much monkeyjuice | 12:57 |
| Linusnewb | hi all | 13:04 |
| Linusnewb | how do I stop networkmanager or restart it? service network-manager stop does it not | 13:06 |
| Linusnewb | /etc/init.d/networking stop Error: calling a sysvinit script.... blablabla | 13:08 |
| Linusnewb | no one any idea? | 13:15 |
| taduro__ | Linusnewb: no, sorry :/ | 13:18 |
| Linusnewb | taduro__ I think I have a plasma-nm tool in 13.10 kubuntu but what applet it is using I don't now gnome utils or kde something in xorg or whatever | 13:23 |
| alvin | Linusnewb: service networking restart (name changed) | 13:24 |
| Linusnewb | is there any way to look what is the new name on console | 13:26 |
| maruf | hayy all how are you....? | 13:30 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:34 |
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| Taduro | If I do $ startx > log.txt ← That will save what startx says? because I can log with other accounts (rigth now I'm using that other account) but with my account, when I try to log in, it shows up the kdm(?) splash screen like "loading" but woah, the screen goes entirely black. I tried with another tty, login in with my account and then startx, but it does the same, when it arrives to the "plasma loading screen", the screen goes black | 14:19 |
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| Whiskey`Wonka | yay muon is again forgetting how to work | 15:08 |
| Bundestrojaner | hello | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | Taduro: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ... as for the logs you can find the regular log at ~/.cache/upstart/startkde.log | 15:37 |
| Taduro | apachelogger: hello! But I'm right now using plasma with another user | 15:37 |
| Taduro | You want me to install kubuntu-desktop with my normal account? | 15:37 |
| Bundestrojaner | when i start KGPG, it shows the Name in the bar at the bottom of the screen, for a few seconds, than it dissapears. The program never starts. When i start it from console, i get twice "QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave." | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | Taduro: sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-settings-active | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | Bundestrojaner: are you sure it's not simply hiding in the systray? | 15:38 |
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| Bundestrojaner | apachelogger: you're right, thx! I didn't know it stays in tray. and the error message in Konsole confirmed me... | 15:41 |
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| apachelogger | Bundestrojaner: FWIW, I think it should open the window when started manually regardless of whether it is in the tray alraedy; you may want to file a bug at bugs.kde.org | 15:43 |
| Taduro | apachelogger: can you explain it again, please? | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | oh wait, that makes even less sense | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | Taduro: best get that startkde.log | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | something must be incorrectly configured such that your plasma-desktop doesn't come up | 15:46 |
| lordievader | Good afternoon. | 15:47 |
| Taduro | apachelogger: I sent you the paste | 15:56 |
| AshishL | i was planning on installing Kubuntu for development on windows using Virtual Machine ... i visited a link . Can anyone tell me if it is appropriate ? http://www.artiss.co.uk/2009/01/running-kubuntu-under-virtualbox | 16:04 |
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| Taduro | apachelogger: there are more logs? | 16:16 |
| BluesKaj | lordievader, I burned the daily image to dvd yesterday , is that new enough to contain the latest kernel.? | 16:17 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: Does the live-env work? uname -a to check. | 16:19 |
| BluesKaj | lordievader, 3.12.0-5-generic | 16:20 |
| BluesKaj | used the live dvd to install in vmware | 16:21 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: That is a quite recent kernel. | 16:21 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: Is also what run on this updated install of Trusty. | 16:22 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: But the live env works? | 16:22 |
| lordievader | The graphics I mean? | 16:22 |
| apachelogger | Taduro: unregistered nicks cannot query me :P | 16:22 |
| Taduro | oh | 16:22 |
| Taduro | apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6525345/ | 16:23 |
| apachelogger | hm | 16:25 |
| apachelogger | Taduro: mv ~/.kde/share/config/ksmserver ~ | 16:26 |
| apachelogger | then try to log in | 16:26 |
| Taduro | apachelogger: I ahve to leave, I'll come here in a moment! | 16:27 |
| BluesKaj | lordievader, no live dvd diesn't work by itself , but works fine in vmwareplayer | 16:28 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | anyone know what to do about muon? "this operation could not continue proper wauthorization was not provided" | 16:28 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | polkit is isntalled, im not using a remote session. im guessing its a dbus issue? | 16:30 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: Ahh, so it really is the hardware.. You cannot get into a tty on the actual machine (not a vm)? | 16:31 |
| apachelogger | really hard to say | 16:31 |
| apachelogger | Whiskey`Wonka: tried a restart? | 16:31 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | apachelogger: i know a restart will fix it but this isnt friggen windows | 16:31 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | id a solution not a bandaid | 16:31 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | like* | 16:31 |
| apachelogger | well | 16:32 |
| apachelogger | oh actually | 16:32 |
| apachelogger | Whiskey`Wonka: is qaptworker running? | 16:32 |
| BluesKaj | lordievader, no tty available | 16:32 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | ill look | 16:32 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | oot 18018 0.0 0.0 254884 7208 ? Sl 06:50 0:00 /usr/bin/qaptworker2 | 16:33 |
| apachelogger | Whiskey`Wonka: cd ~; sudo gdb -p `pidof qaptworker2` .... once you get a prompt type ... set logging on ... and after that ... thread apply all bt ... and after that .... set logging off ... and after that quit | 16:34 |
| BluesKaj | lordievader, I also tried 13.10, same result | 16:35 |
| apachelogger | Whiskey`Wonka: after that you should find a file called gdb.txt in your home, please paste the content | 16:35 |
| apachelogger | Whiskey`Wonka: and then you can run `sudo killall qaptworker2` and see if that makes muon work again | 16:35 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | Inferior 1 [process 18018] will be detached. | 16:36 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | that ok? | 16:36 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 16:36 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | mmm, must have done something wrong, no gdb.txt | 16:37 |
| apachelogger | Whiskey`Wonka: can you paste the output of the terminal session? | 16:37 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | http://pastebin.com/tfGXGMCE | 16:39 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | should i still restart qaptworker2? | 16:39 |
| apachelogger | you forgot set logging on xD | 16:39 |
| apachelogger | Whiskey`Wonka: yeah | 16:39 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | i sware i typed it lol | 16:40 |
| apachelogger | only logging off | 16:40 |
| apachelogger | anyway, the backtrace is not useful | 16:40 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | =( | 16:40 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | worth a try | 16:40 |
| apachelogger | well, if it fixes the issue it's still only a workaround but I have the strong feeling that qaptworker2 gets stuck and consequently the authentication fails | 16:41 |
| apachelogger | however it's nigh impossible to find out why it gets stuck | 16:41 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | thats fun | 16:42 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | damn this thing is running like crap now | 16:43 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | and its still not asking for perms | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | Whiskey`Wonka: killall polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1 | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | start it again via `/usr/lib/kde4/libexec/polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1` | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | does that help? | 16:44 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | ah! there is no polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1 running | 16:44 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | only polkit listed is root 944 0.0 0.0 272308 4280 ? Sl Dec03 0:01 /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd --no-debug | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | that would explain it then | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | curious that it would explode | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | or maybe it was not started | 16:45 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | not sure why it wouldnt start, it handles the wallet too doesnt it? | 16:45 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | or i should ask, what handled kde wallet and the new wifi manager keys ? | 16:46 |
| apachelogger | wallet is independent of polkit | 16:46 |
| apachelogger | polkit expands permissions beyond the user settings | 16:46 |
| apachelogger | the wallet is user specific though | 16:47 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | http://pastebin.com/b4PTm8NF | 16:47 |
| apachelogger | unamed app is funny xD | 16:47 |
| apachelogger | Whiskey`Wonka: does it work now? | 16:47 |
| Taduro | apachelogger: I'm back, do you know how to get the message from the konsole in english? for the errore message I'm getting.. | 16:48 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | ill try but it looks like /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1 did not run | 16:48 |
| apachelogger | Taduro: LANG=C before the command you want to have in english | 16:48 |
| apachelogger | e.g. LANG=C kde4-config --help | 16:48 |
| Taduro | apachelogger: awesome | 16:49 |
| Taduro | apachelogger: mv: cannot stat '/home/soul/.kde/share/config/ksmserver': No such file or directory | 16:49 |
| apachelogger | ohm | 16:49 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | Still no password dialog for muon updater (and likely not for muon) | 16:50 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | holy crap its 9 already =\ | 16:50 |
| apachelogger | Taduro: ls -l ~/.kde/share/config |grep "^d" | 16:50 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | and still -5 outside, screw working | 16:50 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 16:51 |
| Taduro | apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6525589/ | 16:52 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | lucky for me its a light load today and I can wait till later | 16:52 |
| apachelogger | Whiskey`Wonka: maybe try `dbus-monitor` and in another terminal `dbus-monitor --system` and then try to get authorization | 16:52 |
| apachelogger | however I find it unlikely that this will yield any information | 16:52 |
| apachelogger | Taduro: mv ~/.kde/share/config/session ~ | 16:52 |
| apachelogger | then try to login | 16:53 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | dbus-monitor Failed to open connection to session bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. | 16:53 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | that was su, should i run as my user? | 16:53 |
| apachelogger | yeah, your user | 16:53 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | LOTS of info but no idea what it all means | 16:54 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | signal sender=:1.152 -> dest=(null destination) serial=48 path=/org/kubuntu/qaptworker/transaction2450b95d1c294f2a9853667382533c94; interface=org.kubuntu.qaptworker2.transaction; member=propertyChanged | 16:55 |
| apachelogger | ah, yeah, restart them, and try to do as little as possible between starting the application and trying to get authorization, then immediately after the error ctrl-c the monitors again | 16:55 |
| apachelogger | and paste all the output | 16:55 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | oh boy | 16:56 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | that mens shuttign down lots of apps, mmm | 16:56 |
| apachelogger | Whiskey`Wonka: nah | 16:56 |
| apachelogger | Whiskey`Wonka: just don't go into them | 16:56 |
| apachelogger | they shouldn't create much output while idle | 16:56 |
| apachelogger | but as soon as you switch into an application a wall of spew appears :P | 16:57 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | hmmm | 16:58 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | ok so should i have muon updater running already? cause launching it spews | 16:58 |
| Taduro | apachelogger: I have to reboot? because i get the same | 16:59 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | but i only get 1 shot at trying for the password, after it, it doesnt give the error, it just doesnt do anything | 16:59 |
| apachelogger | Taduro: new log please | 16:59 |
| apachelogger | (I am just guessing here :P) | 17:00 |
| apachelogger | Taduro: oh, actually ... run `echo "DisableAll=false" >> ~/.kde/share/config/kdebugrc` and try to log in again | 17:00 |
| apachelogger | that should create a more verbose log | 17:01 |
| apachelogger | Whiskey`Wonka: oh, so you get a password dialog? | 17:01 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | no | 17:01 |
| apachelogger | Whiskey`Wonka: update can be running already | 17:01 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | when i press 'install updates' it churns for a sec thn goes directly to the error | 17:01 |
| apachelogger | authorization is requested on-demand | 17:01 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | ok | 17:02 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | and once i do THAT, it doesnt error till i restart updater | 17:02 |
| apachelogger | Whiskey`Wonka: huh | 17:03 |
| apachelogger | Whiskey`Wonka: if you start updater, then the monitors, and then try to install the updates it doesn't error at all? | 17:03 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | yes | 17:03 |
| Taduro | apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6525638/ | 17:03 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | http://pastebin.com/6QYV2Jct | 17:07 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | http://pastebin.com/Mr0HKzyg | 17:08 |
| apachelogger | Taduro: all those errors from psi do not make me very confident | 17:08 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | thats dbus-monitor and --system respectivly | 17:08 |
| apachelogger | Taduro: have you manually put psi and quassel on autostart? | 17:08 |
| Taduro | hmmm, manually I don't remember but they start automatically always, apachelogger . | 17:08 |
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| apachelogger | Taduro: check ~/.config/autostart ~/.kde/share/autostart | 17:09 |
| apachelogger | Taduro: if there's stuff in there move it out and try a log in again | 17:09 |
| Taduro | ok apachelogger | 17:10 |
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| === Steakanbake|slee is now known as Steakanbake | ||
| apachelogger | Whiskey`Wonka: yeah, no viable information | 17:11 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | seams to be the story of the day | 17:11 |
| apachelogger | it's just really bad stuff to debug as the entire process so utterly opaque it makes you wanna cry | 17:13 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | yes it is | 17:14 |
| Taduro | apachelogger: I think I have to reboot because now I get the same I thing? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6525683/ | 17:14 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | i do networking tech support over the phone, its highly anoying | 17:14 |
| apachelogger | ehm | 17:14 |
| apachelogger | Taduro: you did all that stuff in the user with the broken plasma, right? | 17:15 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | im infectious! | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | xD | 17:15 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | ill hold of rebooting for a while if you have any ideas | 17:15 |
| Taduro | apachelogger: yes, at my home (my user is Soul but I don't use the same nick because is taken) | 17:16 |
| Whiskey`Wonka | its up to 4F, yay | 17:16 |
| apachelogger | Taduro: then that log is impossible to happen | 17:16 |
| Taduro | but I didn't rebooted | 17:17 |
| Taduro | I'm doing it in the.. | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | you don't need to | 17:17 |
| Taduro | tty6 | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | the session folder you moved prevents a previous session containing psi/quassel to be started again and if you moved all files out the autostart folders psi/quassel also should not be automatically started | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | makes no sense | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | Taduro: grep -r psi ~/.kde | 17:18 |
| Taduro | oooooooooo my goooood what iss thiiiiiiis | 17:19 |
| Taduro | lol | 17:19 |
| Taduro | haha | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | lol? | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | Whiskey`Wonka: so... you could try to find someone in #kde-devel who knows a thing or two about polkit to help you debug this, but short of that I'd simply reboot | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | it certainly would help a bunch if we could find a way to trigger the issue reliably, but so far that wasn't the case :S | 17:20 |
| Taduro | apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6525708/ | 17:21 |
| Taduro | I think the problem is not with psi :S | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | :O | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | Taduro: if you get the black screen and hit alt-f2 does an input field appear? | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | although that would be odd | 17:22 |
| Taduro | no | 17:22 |
| Taduro | because | 17:22 |
| Taduro | I can't log in | 17:22 |
| Taduro | the black screen appears when kde is starting | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | right | 17:22 |
| Taduro | do you know when the HDD image appears? | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | but you don't get thrown back to the logion screen, right? | 17:22 |
| Taduro | nope | 17:22 |
| Taduro | it's like | 17:23 |
| apachelogger | ok, so try hitting alt-f2 on that black screen :P | 17:23 |
| Taduro | apachelogger: bnitg | 17:24 |
| Taduro | bnothung | 17:24 |
| Taduro | nothing* | 17:24 |
| apachelogger | brrr | 17:24 |
| apachelogger | Taduro: mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* ~ | 17:24 |
| Linusnewb | i haven't anything find about a renamed service as networking or networkmanager :( | 17:28 |
| apachelogger | ? | 17:28 |
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| Denc | hello, i run into problems with transsmison and in my case transsmision wont download torrents, have anyone any idea what can i do wrong? | 17:38 |
| hackndoes | Hi guys | 17:40 |
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| Guest80451 | how do I prevent nouveau from loading? I added a blacklist file with 'blacklist nouveau' and 'options nouveau modset=0' but it doesn't help | 17:41 |
| Guest80451 | for some reason it's still loaded | 17:42 |
| Guest80451 | Guest80451 is me | 17:43 |
| Guest80451 | do I also need to un install the nouveau driver from the system? | 17:44 |
| Guest80451 | I wan't to install the official nvidia driver from nvidia site | 17:44 |
| dougl | hackndoes_, nvidia? | 17:49 |
| Taduro | apachelogger: I rebooted and nothing, it has no sense.... I'll try to do a backup and then reinstall.. | 17:49 |
| dougl | hackndoes_, I don't think you need to go to all that trouble... do the existing drivers work? do you have a gui? | 17:50 |
| hackndoes_ | dougl: yes nvidia | 17:51 |
| hackndoes_ | dougl: I don't like the nouveau | 17:52 |
| hackndoes_ | it's too slow | 17:52 |
| apachelogger | Taduro: reinstall sounds like too much... something in your users $HOME is creating the issue | 17:53 |
| dougl | hackndoes_, but you have a gui? | 17:53 |
| apachelogger | Taduro: you could try mv .kde kde (i.e. resetting your kde settings) | 17:53 |
| hackndoes_ | dougl: now I do yes | 17:53 |
| hackndoes_ | dougl: but with nouveau | 17:54 |
| apachelogger | Taduro: if that does not help it already reduces the amount of places where the bad boy could be hiding... if it does work then you just need to move .kde/share/config/ files around until login starts working | 17:54 |
| Taduro | apachelogger: that sounds nice | 17:54 |
| dougl | hackndoes_, go on the k menu button and when search for "jockey-kde" and run that and it will install the drivers you want. | 17:55 |
| hackndoes_ | noe I want the official nvidia. many users say that the offical nvidia drivers work much better for them | 17:56 |
| dougl | hackndoes_, apparently there is a bug where the additional drivers application wrongly reports the nvidi... jockey-kde will install the official nvidia drivers | 17:57 |
| hackndoes_ | dougl: what? | 17:57 |
| dougl | someone correct me if I am wrong "jockey-kde will install the official nvidia drivers" | 17:58 |
| hackndoes_ | dougl: I can't find a jockey-kde application in kde menu | 17:58 |
| hackndoes_ | dougl: is jocky-kde and the additional drivers the same? | 17:59 |
| hackndoes_ | when I ran jocky-kde it laumched the additional drivers application | 17:59 |
| dougl | hackndoes_, I was saying after you use the jockey-kde (additional drivers) the nvidia official drivers will be installed and used but the application "jockey-kde" that I told you to "SEARCH" for will find additional drivers and when you run that the second time it will say the official drivers are installed but not in use... | 18:00 |
| dougl | that is a bug... you know nvidia drivers are being used because when you boot and kde starts you briefly see the official nvidia splash screen. | 18:01 |
| hackndoes_ | dougl: but the official nvidia driver is a more advanced version | 18:01 |
| hackndoes_ | so I can't disable the nouveau from loading? | 18:01 |
| dougl | sure - I use them too. and installed them as per the instruction I just gave you. | 18:01 |
| hackndoes_ | so you didn't install the NVIDIA.run file from the official site? | 18:02 |
| dougl | no, I used jockey-kde which finds additional drivers app and that plays nicer with kubuntu... honest I did it 4 times since oct 28... | 18:04 |
| dougl | I have a video of my machine booting and shutting down - wanna see it? | 18:04 |
| dougl | should be able to make out the nvidia splash... poor quality but I wanted to catch grub and plymouth splash screens too. | 18:05 |
| hackndoes_ | dougl: I know what the nvidia spalsh look like. | 18:05 |
| Taduro | apachelogger: Please, don't forget me If i keep with this issue haha | 18:05 |
| hackndoes_ | just wanted to install the official latest from the site, people say that it works much better for them | 18:06 |
| dougl | lol - I knew you would... my point is that proves nvidia drivers are loaded and being used | 18:06 |
| hackndoes_ | so I wanted to try | 18:06 |
| hackndoes_ | ohhhhhhhhhhhhh :) | 18:06 |
| hackndoes_ | well I will install from repo now. you say it will load nvidia? so in lsmod | grep nvidia I will see it? | 18:06 |
| dougl | jockey-kde will download the latest stable | 18:06 |
| dougl | yes | 18:07 |
| dougl | lsmod | 18:07 |
| hackndoes_ | dougl: well I am restarting wish me luck | 18:07 |
| Taduro | apachelogger: it worked!!!!!1 marry me!! | 18:07 |
| dougl | true love !!! right on! | 18:08 |
| dougl | linux love | 18:09 |
| apachelogger | Taduro: groovy | 18:09 |
| dougl | So... does jockey-kde get the latest drivers or am I mistaken? | 18:10 |
| 18WAE89NC | dougl: I think you are mistaken | 18:11 |
| 18WAE89NC | I think it just brings the version it manages for each distro (304 is always there and another newer one which you choose if you want | 18:12 |
| dougl | 319 I tho | 18:12 |
| dougl | t | 18:12 |
| 18WAE89NC | dougl: currently it's 319.60 | 18:12 |
| dougl | sec checking mine | 18:12 |
| 18WAE89NC | dougl: anyway it didn't succeed, after install I still have the nouveau loaded!!!! it drives me crazy it used to work perfactly | 18:13 |
| dougl | 18WAE89NC, sec... | 18:13 |
| 18WAE89NC | dougl: it's me hackndoes | 18:13 |
| dougl | 18WAE89NC, figered... but yes what I described to you I did on mine and version 319.32 was installed | 18:14 |
| dougl | and that is what you want right 319.32? | 18:15 |
| 18WAE89NC | dougl: you have two 319 versions the 32 and the 60 | 18:15 |
| dougl | sec I will check | 18:15 |
| 18WAE89NC | I want 331 which is on the site but I would sattle for the 60 or 32 but that doesn't work as well | 18:15 |
| 18WAE89NC | for some reason it doens't get loaded. | 18:15 |
| 18WAE89NC | should I uninstall the nouveau? | 18:15 |
| dougl | 18WAE89NC, still checking - what video card do you have? | 18:16 |
| 18WAE89NC | it's a lapto it's the nvidia nvs-4200 or something like that | 18:16 |
| 18WAE89NC | lemme check exactly | 18:16 |
| 18WAE89NC | dougl: GF119M NVS 4200M | 18:17 |
| 18WAE89NC | but it used to work before. now it just keeps the nouveau there | 18:17 |
| dougl | and no jockey-kde only installed 319.32 on my end | 18:17 |
| 18WAE89NC | dougl: well what am I to do? should I remove the nouveau? | 18:18 |
| dougl | no you should not have to un install the nouveau drivers jockey-kde will config the nvidia drivers to load... | 18:18 |
| 18WAE89NC | well it doesn't | 18:19 |
| dougl | when you ran the additional drivers did it ask you for a password and everything? | 18:19 |
| 18WAE89NC | yes | 18:19 |
| 18WAE89NC | and finished successfully and required restart so I restarted. | 18:19 |
| 18WAE89NC | something doens't let it boot with the nvidia driver | 18:20 |
| 18WAE89NC | it used to work before | 18:20 |
| dougl | what doe additional drivers say now? | 18:20 |
| 18WAE89NC | dougl: it says it's activated but not currently in use | 18:25 |
| dougl | 18WAE89NC, when you run "nvidia-settings" from a command line in a window do you get the propietary nvidia config app window | 18:25 |
| dougl | 18WAE89NC, but did you see the nvidia splash or verify - is saying it is not activated is a bug | 18:25 |
| 18WAE89NC | I don't see it and in lsmod I see the nouveau | 18:26 |
| dougl | nvidia-settings is where you can see it say what driver is being used... please run nvidia-settings | 18:26 |
| 18WAE89NC | the propriatary nvidia config opens but it thrown an error on open and opens a very limitted window | 18:26 |
| 18WAE89NC | it says this, You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server. | 18:27 |
| dougl | ok... back in additional drivers select 319 drivers and select activate | 18:27 |
| 18WAE89NC | dougl: but it's activated | 18:27 |
| 18WAE89NC | it's green and activated, just saying it's not currently in use | 18:28 |
| dougl | yeah - mine says that and when I asked about it they said it was a bug and to ignore it. | 18:29 |
| Bundestrojaner | is it possible to install 2 versions of a programm parallel on Kubuntu? | 18:30 |
| dougl | Bundestrojaner, easy answer no... if you compile your own yes | 18:31 |
| dougl | 18WAE89NC, I don't understand... does that notebook have 2 video cards...? | 18:32 |
| Bundestrojaner | and is it possible to ignoring dependencies? | 18:32 |
| Bundestrojaner | ignore | 18:32 |
| dougl | Bundestrojaner, investigate force option | 18:32 |
| Bundestrojaner | thx | 18:33 |
| 18WAE89NC | yes | 18:33 |
| 18WAE89NC | it has intel and nvidia | 18:33 |
| dougl | Bundestrojaner, if you do what I suggest there is a good chance you will break your system | 18:33 |
| dougl | the intel is messing things up | 18:34 |
| dougl | I knew it... I had one like that a few years back acer-asus I dunno/rememmber and I think I disabled the intel in the bios and never looked b ack | 18:35 |
| dougl | 18WAE89NC, can you bios disable the intel? | 18:36 |
| Bundestrojaner | dougl: i want to install a wine 1.5 which includes usb-acces. | 18:38 |
| Bundestrojaner | But i get the stupid error: "Depends on: wine, but can't be installed | 18:38 |
| Bundestrojaner | (translated from german, maybe not exactly) | 18:39 |
| dougl | !ge | 18:39 |
| ubottu | ქართული ენაზე დახმარების მიღებისთვის გთხოვთ შემობრძანდით #ubuntu-ge / Kartuli enaze dakhmarebis mighebistvis gtkhovt shemobrdzandit #ubuntu-ge | 18:39 |
| 18WAE89NC | dougl: well it's optimus and it's disabled | 18:40 |
| 18WAE89NC | dougl: only the nvidia is active in bios | 18:40 |
| dougl | 18WAE89NC, lets do jockey-kde again and see what happens. | 18:40 |
| 18WAE89NC | dougl: what am i supposed to do with it? | 18:41 |
| 18WAE89NC | dougl: switch to another driver? | 18:41 |
| dougl | sure... | 18:42 |
| 18WAE89NC | OK I will try another one | 18:42 |
| dougl | any nvidia driver should work... that is not an exceptionally new card | 18:42 |
| dougl | acer or asus notebook? | 18:43 |
| 18WAE89NC | it used to work before | 18:43 |
| 18WAE89NC | dell latitude | 18:43 |
| dougl | hmm | 18:43 |
| 18WAE89NC | I am trying to reboot now. will return with results.... | 18:43 |
| dougl | :) | 18:45 |
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| dougl | Crap 18WAE89NC is not coming back... I hope I did not get him to nuke his box | 18:52 |
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| linuxer1995 | test | 18:54 |
| dougl | pass test | 18:54 |
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| Walzmyn | when I boot up, my login screen in on my second monitor (which is not always on) How can I force it to the primary monitor? | 20:50 |
| Walzmyn | Or make it clone on both monitors at the least. | 20:51 |
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| arthurfiggis | Walzmyn: not very helpful i know, but i've been trying to figure out the same thing :) i have a monitor hooked up via dvi and a tv hooked up via hdmi...every linux distro i've tried defaults to the hdmi tv, which is rather inconvenient :( if i can figure it out on my own i'll mention the solution here, but if anyone else knows... ^^ | 22:09 |
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