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alesanhi, is Kubuntu using pulseaudio ???00:22
gannondorfSaluton kubuntu!00:34
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lordievaderGood morning.07:21
soeegood morning08:13
deceparyhey.08:31
deceparywhat's up?08:34
MJ2363hi every108:56
MJ2363how can I purge all gnome packages in order to install kde-desktop?08:56
valorieyou need not purge anything to install the kde-desktop, if you don't want to08:57
MJ2363yes I know...08:57
hateball!purekde08:57
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde »08:57
MJ2363but I would like to remove gnome for space puroposes08:57
valorieok08:57
hateballnote the versions ^08:58
MJ2363are those for 13.10?08:58
MJ2363I think thery are a bit outdated :(08:58
skramer_Hi all. I have a rather stupid question today: How can I force apps that I ran by 'kdesudo ...' to have same look as if I ran them as normal user?09:13
hateballskramer_: You could set the desktop theme for root I suppose09:15
hateballassuming they are qt applications09:16
skramer_Ok. So I should do 'kdesudo systemsttings' and then select same them for window decoration, etc.?09:16
skramer_Gtk apps will look bit different, anyway. But that´s no problem :)09:17
valorieskramer_: it's rather dangerous to run stuff as root09:17
skramer_valorie: I´m quite aware that no program should not be run as root normally. Still, sometimes I need to edit some file  in /etc. So 'kdesudo kate  file' should make me able editing the file, but I want to have kate looking same as if I ran it as my normal user...09:21
valorieok, as long as you are aware09:21
skramer_:)09:21
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taduro__sup guys12:44
taduro__when I log in with my user12:44
taduro__the screen goes black12:44
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taduro__any ideas? :(12:44
monkeyjuicewhat you using taduro__ 13.**?12:46
monkeyjuicetaduro__:  did it work?, what made it stop working?, did you upgrade?, ect12:48
taduro__13.10 monkeyjuice12:48
taduro__monkeyjuice: nothing, I was in class, I switched off my computer12:49
taduro__and when I arrived at home..12:49
taduro__surprise12:49
monkeyjuicebeen looking for help online taduro__ there are a few bugs it seems , hoping someone else will jump in and help you with this..12:56
taduro__ok thank you very much monkeyjuice12:57
Linusnewbhi all13:04
Linusnewbhow do I stop networkmanager or restart it? service network-manager stop does it not13:06
Linusnewb/etc/init.d/networking stop Error: calling a sysvinit script.... blablabla13:08
Linusnewbno one any idea?13:15
taduro__Linusnewb: no, sorry :/13:18
Linusnewbtaduro__ I think I have a plasma-nm tool in 13.10 kubuntu but what applet it is using I don't now gnome utils or kde something in xorg or whatever13:23
alvinLinusnewb: service networking restart (name changed)13:24
Linusnewbis there any way to look what is the new name on console13:26
marufhayy all how are you....?13:30
BluesKajHi all13:34
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TaduroIf I do $ startx > log.txt ← That will save what startx says? because I can log with other accounts (rigth now I'm using that other account) but with my account, when I try to log in, it shows up the kdm(?) splash screen like "loading" but woah, the screen goes entirely black. I tried with another tty, login in with my account and then startx, but it does the same, when it arrives to the "plasma loading screen", the screen goes black14:19
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Whiskey`Wonkayay muon is again forgetting how to work15:08
Bundestrojanerhello15:35
apacheloggerTaduro: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ... as for the logs you can find the regular log at ~/.cache/upstart/startkde.log15:37
Taduroapachelogger: hello! But I'm right now using plasma with another user15:37
TaduroYou want me to install kubuntu-desktop with my normal account?15:37
Bundestrojanerwhen i start KGPG, it shows the Name in the bar at the bottom of the screen, for a few seconds, than it dissapears. The program never starts. When i start it from console, i get twice "QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave."15:37
apacheloggerTaduro: sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-settings-active15:37
apacheloggerBundestrojaner: are you sure it's not simply hiding in the systray?15:38
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Bundestrojanerapachelogger: you're right, thx! I didn't know it stays in tray. and the error message in Konsole confirmed me...15:41
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apacheloggerBundestrojaner: FWIW, I think it should open the window when started manually regardless of whether it is in the tray alraedy; you may want to file a bug at bugs.kde.org15:43
Taduroapachelogger: can you explain it again, please?15:44
apacheloggeroh wait, that makes even less sense15:46
apacheloggerTaduro: best get that startkde.log15:46
apacheloggersomething must be incorrectly configured such that  your plasma-desktop doesn't come up15:46
lordievaderGood afternoon.15:47
Taduroapachelogger: I sent you the paste15:56
AshishLi was planning on installing Kubuntu for development on windows using Virtual Machine ... i visited a link . Can anyone tell me if it is appropriate ? http://www.artiss.co.uk/2009/01/running-kubuntu-under-virtualbox16:04
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Taduroapachelogger: there are more logs?16:16
BluesKajlordievader, I burned the daily image to dvd yesterday , is that new enough to contain the latest kernel.?16:17
lordievaderBluesKaj: Does the live-env work? uname -a to check.16:19
BluesKajlordievader, 3.12.0-5-generic16:20
BluesKajused the live dvd to install in vmware16:21
lordievaderBluesKaj: That is a quite recent kernel.16:21
lordievaderBluesKaj: Is also what run on this updated install of Trusty.16:22
lordievaderBluesKaj: But the live env works?16:22
lordievaderThe graphics I mean?16:22
apacheloggerTaduro: unregistered nicks cannot query me :P16:22
Tadurooh16:22
Taduroapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6525345/16:23
apacheloggerhm16:25
apacheloggerTaduro: mv ~/.kde/share/config/ksmserver ~16:26
apacheloggerthen try to log in16:26
Taduroapachelogger: I ahve to leave, I'll come here in a moment!16:27
BluesKajlordievader, no live dvd diesn't work by itself , but works fine in vmwareplayer16:28
Whiskey`Wonkaanyone know what to do about muon? "this operation could not continue proper wauthorization was not provided"16:28
Whiskey`Wonkapolkit is isntalled, im not using a remote session. im guessing its a dbus issue?16:30
lordievaderBluesKaj: Ahh, so it really is the hardware.. You cannot get into a tty on the actual machine (not a vm)?16:31
apacheloggerreally hard to say16:31
apacheloggerWhiskey`Wonka: tried a restart?16:31
Whiskey`Wonkaapachelogger: i know a restart will fix it but this isnt friggen windows16:31
Whiskey`Wonkaid a solution not a bandaid16:31
Whiskey`Wonkalike*16:31
apacheloggerwell16:32
apacheloggeroh actually16:32
apacheloggerWhiskey`Wonka: is qaptworker running?16:32
BluesKajlordievader, no tty available16:32
Whiskey`Wonkaill look16:32
Whiskey`Wonkaoot     18018  0.0  0.0 254884  7208 ?        Sl   06:50   0:00 /usr/bin/qaptworker216:33
apacheloggerWhiskey`Wonka: cd ~; sudo gdb -p `pidof qaptworker2`  .... once you get a prompt type ... set logging on ... and after that ... thread apply all bt ... and after that .... set logging off ... and after that quit16:34
BluesKajlordievader, I also tried 13.10, same result16:35
apacheloggerWhiskey`Wonka: after that you should find a file called gdb.txt in your home, please paste the content16:35
apacheloggerWhiskey`Wonka: and then you can run `sudo killall qaptworker2` and see if that makes muon work again16:35
Whiskey`WonkaInferior 1 [process 18018] will be detached.16:36
Whiskey`Wonkathat ok?16:36
apacheloggeryeah16:36
Whiskey`Wonkammm, must have done something wrong, no gdb.txt16:37
apacheloggerWhiskey`Wonka: can you paste the output of the terminal session?16:37
Whiskey`Wonkahttp://pastebin.com/tfGXGMCE16:39
Whiskey`Wonkashould i still restart qaptworker2?16:39
apacheloggeryou forgot set logging on xD16:39
apacheloggerWhiskey`Wonka: yeah16:39
Whiskey`Wonkai sware i typed it lol16:40
apacheloggeronly logging off16:40
apacheloggeranyway, the backtrace is not useful16:40
Whiskey`Wonka=(16:40
Whiskey`Wonkaworth a try16:40
apacheloggerwell, if it fixes the issue it's still only a workaround but I have the strong feeling that qaptworker2 gets stuck and consequently the authentication fails16:41
apacheloggerhowever it's nigh impossible to find out why it gets stuck16:41
Whiskey`Wonkathats fun16:42
Whiskey`Wonkadamn this thing is running like crap now16:43
Whiskey`Wonkaand its still not asking for perms16:43
apacheloggerWhiskey`Wonka: killall polkit-kde-authentication-agent-116:43
apacheloggerstart it again via `/usr/lib/kde4/libexec/polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1`16:44
apacheloggerdoes that help?16:44
Whiskey`Wonkaah! there is no polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1 running16:44
Whiskey`Wonkaonly polkit listed is root       944  0.0  0.0 272308  4280 ?        Sl   Dec03   0:01 /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd --no-debug16:44
apacheloggerthat would explain it then16:45
apacheloggercurious that it would explode16:45
apacheloggeror maybe it was not started16:45
Whiskey`Wonkanot sure why it wouldnt start, it handles the wallet too doesnt it?16:45
Whiskey`Wonkaor i should ask, what handled kde wallet and the new wifi manager keys ?16:46
apacheloggerwallet is independent of polkit16:46
apacheloggerpolkit expands permissions beyond the user settings16:46
apacheloggerthe wallet is user specific though16:47
Whiskey`Wonkahttp://pastebin.com/b4PTm8NF16:47
apacheloggerunamed app is funny xD16:47
apacheloggerWhiskey`Wonka: does it work now?16:47
Taduroapachelogger: I'm back, do you know how to get the message from the konsole in english? for the errore message I'm getting..16:48
Whiskey`Wonkaill try but it looks like /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1 did not run16:48
apacheloggerTaduro: LANG=C before the command you want to have in english16:48
apacheloggere.g. LANG=C kde4-config --help16:48
Taduroapachelogger: awesome16:49
Taduroapachelogger: mv: cannot stat '/home/soul/.kde/share/config/ksmserver': No such file or directory16:49
apacheloggerohm16:49
Whiskey`WonkaStill no password dialog for muon updater (and likely not for muon)16:50
Whiskey`Wonkaholy crap its 9 already =\16:50
apacheloggerTaduro: ls -l ~/.kde/share/config |grep "^d"16:50
Whiskey`Wonkaand still -5 outside, screw working16:50
apachelogger^^16:51
Taduroapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6525589/16:52
Whiskey`Wonkalucky for me its a light load today and I can wait till later16:52
apacheloggerWhiskey`Wonka: maybe try `dbus-monitor` and in another terminal `dbus-monitor --system` and then try to get authorization16:52
apacheloggerhowever I find it unlikely that this will yield any information16:52
apacheloggerTaduro: mv ~/.kde/share/config/session ~16:52
apacheloggerthen try to login16:53
Whiskey`Wonkadbus-monitor Failed to open connection to session bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.16:53
Whiskey`Wonkathat was su, should i run as my user?16:53
apacheloggeryeah, your user16:53
Whiskey`WonkaLOTS of info but no idea what it all means16:54
Whiskey`Wonkasignal sender=:1.152 -> dest=(null destination) serial=48 path=/org/kubuntu/qaptworker/transaction2450b95d1c294f2a9853667382533c94; interface=org.kubuntu.qaptworker2.transaction; member=propertyChanged16:55
apacheloggerah, yeah, restart them, and try to do as little as possible between starting the application and trying to get authorization, then immediately after the error ctrl-c the monitors again16:55
apacheloggerand paste all the output16:55
Whiskey`Wonkaoh boy16:56
Whiskey`Wonkathat mens shuttign down lots of apps, mmm16:56
apacheloggerWhiskey`Wonka: nah16:56
apacheloggerWhiskey`Wonka: just don't go into them16:56
apacheloggerthey shouldn't create much output while idle16:56
apacheloggerbut as soon as you switch into an application a wall of spew appears :P16:57
Whiskey`Wonkahmmm16:58
Whiskey`Wonkaok so should i have muon updater running already? cause launching it spews16:58
Taduroapachelogger: I have to reboot? because i get the same16:59
Whiskey`Wonkabut i only get 1 shot at trying for the password, after it, it doesnt give the error, it just doesnt do anything16:59
apacheloggerTaduro: new log please16:59
apachelogger(I am just guessing here :P)17:00
apacheloggerTaduro: oh, actually ... run `echo "DisableAll=false" >> ~/.kde/share/config/kdebugrc` and try to log in again17:00
apacheloggerthat should create a more verbose log17:01
apacheloggerWhiskey`Wonka: oh, so you get a password dialog?17:01
Whiskey`Wonkano17:01
apacheloggerWhiskey`Wonka: update can be running already17:01
Whiskey`Wonkawhen i press 'install updates' it churns for a sec thn goes directly to the error17:01
apacheloggerauthorization is requested on-demand17:01
Whiskey`Wonkaok17:02
Whiskey`Wonkaand once i do THAT, it doesnt error till i restart updater17:02
apacheloggerWhiskey`Wonka: huh17:03
apacheloggerWhiskey`Wonka: if you start updater, then the monitors, and then try to install the updates it doesn't error at all?17:03
Whiskey`Wonkayes17:03
Taduroapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6525638/17:03
Whiskey`Wonkahttp://pastebin.com/6QYV2Jct17:07
Whiskey`Wonkahttp://pastebin.com/Mr0HKzyg17:08
apacheloggerTaduro: all those errors from psi do not make me very confident17:08
Whiskey`Wonkathats dbus-monitor and --system respectivly17:08
apacheloggerTaduro: have you manually put psi and quassel on autostart?17:08
Tadurohmmm, manually I don't remember but they start automatically always, apachelogger .17:08
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apacheloggerTaduro: check ~/.config/autostart ~/.kde/share/autostart17:09
apacheloggerTaduro: if there's stuff in there move it out and try a log in again17:09
Tadurook apachelogger17:10
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apacheloggerWhiskey`Wonka: yeah, no viable information17:11
Whiskey`Wonkaseams to be the story of the day17:11
apacheloggerit's just really bad stuff to debug as the entire process so utterly opaque it makes you wanna cry17:13
Whiskey`Wonkayes it is17:14
Taduroapachelogger: I think I have to reboot because now I get the same I thing? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6525683/17:14
Whiskey`Wonkai do networking tech support over the phone, its highly anoying17:14
apacheloggerehm17:14
apacheloggerTaduro: you did all that stuff in the user with the broken plasma, right?17:15
Whiskey`Wonkaim infectious!17:15
apacheloggerxD17:15
Whiskey`Wonkaill hold of rebooting for a while if you have any ideas17:15
Taduroapachelogger: yes, at my home (my user is Soul but I don't use the same nick because is taken)17:16
Whiskey`Wonkaits up to 4F, yay17:16
apacheloggerTaduro: then that log is impossible to happen17:16
Tadurobut I didn't rebooted17:17
TaduroI'm doing it in the..17:17
apacheloggeryou don't need to17:17
Tadurotty617:17
apacheloggerthe session folder you moved prevents a previous session containing psi/quassel to be started again and if you moved all files out the autostart folders psi/quassel also should not be automatically started17:17
apacheloggermakes no sense17:17
apacheloggerTaduro: grep -r psi ~/.kde17:18
Tadurooooooooooo my goooood what iss thiiiiiiis17:19
Tadurolol17:19
Tadurohaha17:19
apacheloggerlol?17:19
apacheloggerWhiskey`Wonka: so... you could try to find someone in #kde-devel who knows a thing or two about polkit to help you debug this, but short of that I'd simply reboot17:19
apacheloggerit certainly would help a bunch if we could find a way to trigger the issue reliably, but so far that wasn't the case :S17:20
Taduroapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6525708/17:21
TaduroI think the problem is not with psi :S17:21
apachelogger:O17:21
apacheloggerTaduro: if you get the black screen and hit alt-f2 does an input field appear?17:22
apacheloggeralthough that would be odd17:22
Tadurono17:22
Tadurobecause17:22
TaduroI can't log in17:22
Tadurothe black screen appears when kde is starting17:22
apacheloggerright17:22
Tadurodo you know when the HDD image appears?17:22
apacheloggerbut you don't get thrown back to the logion screen, right?17:22
Taduronope17:22
Taduroit's like17:23
apacheloggerok, so try hitting alt-f2 on that black screen :P17:23
Taduroapachelogger: bnitg17:24
Tadurobnothung17:24
Taduronothing*17:24
apacheloggerbrrr17:24
apacheloggerTaduro: mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* ~17:24
Linusnewbi haven't anything find about a renamed service as networking or networkmanager :(17:28
apachelogger?17:28
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Denchello, i run into problems with transsmison and in my case transsmision wont download torrents, have anyone any idea what can i do wrong?17:38
hackndoesHi guys17:40
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Guest80451how do I prevent nouveau from loading? I added a blacklist file with 'blacklist nouveau' and 'options nouveau modset=0' but it doesn't help17:41
Guest80451for some reason it's still loaded17:42
Guest80451Guest80451 is me17:43
Guest80451do I also need to un install the nouveau driver from the system?17:44
Guest80451I wan't to install the official nvidia driver from nvidia site17:44
douglhackndoes_, nvidia?17:49
Taduroapachelogger: I rebooted and nothing, it has no sense.... I'll try to do a backup and then reinstall..17:49
douglhackndoes_, I don't think you need to go to all that trouble... do the existing drivers work? do you have  a gui?17:50
hackndoes_dougl: yes nvidia17:51
hackndoes_dougl: I don't like the nouveau17:52
hackndoes_it's too slow17:52
apacheloggerTaduro: reinstall sounds like too much... something in your users $HOME is creating the issue17:53
douglhackndoes_, but you have a gui?17:53
apacheloggerTaduro: you could try mv .kde kde (i.e. resetting your kde settings)17:53
hackndoes_dougl: now I do yes17:53
hackndoes_dougl: but with nouveau17:54
apacheloggerTaduro: if that does not help it already reduces the amount of places where the bad boy could be hiding... if it does work then you just need to move .kde/share/config/ files around until login starts working17:54
Taduroapachelogger: that sounds nice17:54
douglhackndoes_, go on the k menu button and when search for "jockey-kde" and run that and it will install the drivers you want.17:55
hackndoes_noe I want the official nvidia. many users say that the offical nvidia drivers work much better for them17:56
douglhackndoes_, apparently there is a bug where the additional drivers application wrongly reports the nvidi... jockey-kde will install the official nvidia drivers17:57
hackndoes_dougl: what?17:57
douglsomeone correct me if I am wrong "jockey-kde will install the official nvidia drivers"17:58
hackndoes_dougl: I can't find a jockey-kde application in kde menu17:58
hackndoes_dougl: is jocky-kde and the additional drivers the same?17:59
hackndoes_when I ran jocky-kde it laumched the additional drivers application17:59
douglhackndoes_, I was saying after you use the jockey-kde (additional drivers) the nvidia official drivers will be installed and used but the application "jockey-kde" that I told you to "SEARCH" for will find additional drivers and when you run that the second time it will say the official drivers are installed but not in use...18:00
douglthat is a bug... you know nvidia drivers are being used because when you boot and kde starts you briefly see the official nvidia splash screen.18:01
hackndoes_dougl:  but the official nvidia driver is a more advanced version18:01
hackndoes_so I can't disable the nouveau from loading?18:01
douglsure - I use them too. and installed them as per the instruction I just gave you.18:01
hackndoes_so you didn't install the NVIDIA.run file from the official site?18:02
douglno, I used jockey-kde which finds additional drivers app and that plays nicer with kubuntu... honest I did it 4 times since oct 28...18:04
douglI have a video of my machine booting and shutting down - wanna see it?18:04
douglshould be able to make out the nvidia splash... poor quality but I wanted to catch grub and plymouth splash screens too.18:05
hackndoes_dougl: I know what the nvidia spalsh look like.18:05
Taduroapachelogger: Please, don't forget me If i keep with this issue haha18:05
hackndoes_just wanted to install the official latest from the site, people say that it works much better for them18:06
dougllol - I knew you would... my point is that proves nvidia drivers are loaded and being used18:06
hackndoes_so I wanted to try18:06
hackndoes_ohhhhhhhhhhhhh :)18:06
hackndoes_well I will install from repo now. you say it will load nvidia? so in lsmod | grep nvidia I will see it?18:06
dougljockey-kde will download the latest stable18:06
douglyes18:07
dougllsmod18:07
hackndoes_dougl: well I am restarting wish me luck18:07
Taduroapachelogger: it worked!!!!!1 marry me!!18:07
dougltrue love !!! right on!18:08
dougllinux love18:09
apacheloggerTaduro: groovy18:09
douglSo... does jockey-kde get the latest drivers or am I mistaken?18:10
18WAE89NCdougl: I think you are mistaken18:11
18WAE89NCI think it just brings the version it manages for each distro (304 is always there and another newer one which you choose if you want18:12
dougl319 I tho18:12
douglt18:12
18WAE89NCdougl: currently it's 319.6018:12
douglsec checking mine18:12
18WAE89NCdougl: anyway it didn't succeed, after install I still have the nouveau loaded!!!! it drives me crazy it used to work perfactly18:13
dougl18WAE89NC, sec...18:13
18WAE89NCdougl: it's me hackndoes18:13
dougl18WAE89NC, figered... but yes what I described to you I did on mine and version 319.32 was installed18:14
dougland that is what you want right 319.32?18:15
18WAE89NCdougl: you have two 319 versions the 32 and the 6018:15
douglsec I will check18:15
18WAE89NCI want 331 which is on the site but I would sattle for the 60 or 32 but that doesn't work as well18:15
18WAE89NCfor some reason it doens't get loaded.18:15
18WAE89NCshould I uninstall the nouveau?18:15
dougl18WAE89NC, still checking - what video card do you have?18:16
18WAE89NCit's a lapto it's the nvidia nvs-4200 or something like that18:16
18WAE89NClemme check exactly18:16
18WAE89NCdougl: GF119M NVS 4200M18:17
18WAE89NCbut it used to work before. now it just keeps the nouveau there18:17
dougland no jockey-kde only installed 319.32 on my end18:17
18WAE89NCdougl: well what am I to do? should I remove the nouveau?18:18
douglno you should not have to un install the nouveau drivers jockey-kde will config the nvidia drivers to load...18:18
18WAE89NCwell it doesn't18:19
douglwhen you ran the additional drivers did it ask you for a password and everything?18:19
18WAE89NCyes18:19
18WAE89NCand finished successfully and required restart so I restarted.18:19
18WAE89NCsomething doens't let it boot with the nvidia driver18:20
18WAE89NCit used to work before18:20
douglwhat doe additional drivers say now?18:20
18WAE89NCdougl: it says it's activated but not currently in use18:25
dougl18WAE89NC, when you run "nvidia-settings" from a command line in a window do you get the propietary nvidia config app window18:25
dougl18WAE89NC, but did you see the nvidia splash or verify - is saying it is not activated is a bug18:25
18WAE89NCI don't see it and in lsmod I see the nouveau18:26
douglnvidia-settings is where you can see it say what driver is being used... please run nvidia-settings18:26
18WAE89NCthe propriatary nvidia config opens but it thrown an error on open and opens a very limitted window18:26
18WAE89NCit says this, You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.18:27
douglok... back in additional drivers select 319 drivers and select activate18:27
18WAE89NCdougl: but it's activated18:27
18WAE89NCit's green and activated, just saying it's not currently in use18:28
douglyeah - mine says that and when I asked about it they said it was a bug and to ignore it.18:29
Bundestrojaneris it possible to install 2 versions of a programm parallel on Kubuntu?18:30
douglBundestrojaner, easy answer no... if you compile your own yes18:31
dougl18WAE89NC, I don't understand... does that notebook have 2 video cards...?18:32
Bundestrojanerand is it possible to ignoring dependencies?18:32
Bundestrojanerignore18:32
douglBundestrojaner, investigate force option18:32
Bundestrojanerthx18:33
18WAE89NCyes18:33
18WAE89NCit has intel and nvidia18:33
douglBundestrojaner, if you do what I suggest there is a good chance you will break your system18:33
douglthe intel is messing things up18:34
douglI knew it... I had one like that a few years back acer-asus I dunno/rememmber and I think I disabled the intel in the bios and never looked b ack18:35
dougl18WAE89NC, can you bios disable the intel?18:36
Bundestrojanerdougl: i want to install a wine 1.5 which includes usb-acces.18:38
BundestrojanerBut i get the stupid error: "Depends on: wine, but can't be installed18:38
Bundestrojaner(translated from german, maybe not exactly)18:39
dougl!ge18:39
ubottuქართული ენაზე დახმარების მიღებისთვის გთხოვთ შემობრძანდით #ubuntu-ge / Kartuli enaze dakhmarebis mighebistvis gtkhovt shemobrdzandit #ubuntu-ge18:39
18WAE89NCdougl: well it's optimus and it's disabled18:40
18WAE89NCdougl: only the nvidia is active in bios18:40
dougl18WAE89NC,  lets do jockey-kde again and see what happens.18:40
18WAE89NCdougl: what am i supposed to do with it?18:41
18WAE89NCdougl: switch to another driver?18:41
douglsure...18:42
18WAE89NCOK I will try another one18:42
douglany nvidia driver should work... that is not an exceptionally new card18:42
douglacer or asus notebook?18:43
18WAE89NCit used to work before18:43
18WAE89NCdell latitude18:43
douglhmm18:43
18WAE89NCI am trying to reboot now. will return with results....18:43
dougl:)18:45
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douglCrap 18WAE89NC is not coming back... I hope I did not get him to nuke his box18:52
* genii makes more coffee18:53
* dougl just refilled18:53
linuxer1995test18:54
douglpass test18:54
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Walzmynwhen I boot up, my login screen in on my second monitor (which is not always on) How can I force it to the primary monitor?20:50
WalzmynOr make it clone on both monitors at the least.20:51
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arthurfiggisWalzmyn: not very helpful i know, but i've been trying to figure out the same thing :) i have a monitor hooked up via dvi and a tv hooked up via hdmi...every linux distro i've tried defaults to the hdmi tv, which is rather inconvenient :( if i can figure it out on my own i'll mention the solution here, but if anyone else knows... ^^22:09
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