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nuvolarimornings04:18
superflyhi nuvolari 04:28
nuvolarihello superfly 04:29
nuvolarihmm, do you also have some of oom Kilos' emails in your spam folder? Not sure why they ended up there04:30
nuvolarigoogle says it's been marked as phishing mails by some04:30
nuvolari*some people04:31
Kiloshi mazal and other peeps too05:16
mazalMore oom05:16
nuvolarihi oom Kilos 05:38
nuvolarilo mazal 05:38
Kiloslo nuvolari 05:38
mazalhi nuvolari 05:38
nuvolariamper daar... :-/ my leave begin die 12de05:40
nuvolaridit was 'n vinnige maar brutale jaar05:41
Kiloslekker05:41
Kilosja julle was almal so kwaai besig05:41
mazalMyne begin eers die 20ste05:53
mazalMoet nog vasbyt05:53
Kilosmorning ThatGraemeGuy 06:04
Squirmmorning06:08
ThatGraemeGuymorning06:19
inetproGuten Morgen!06:36
inetproKilos: when are you on leave?06:36
Kiloshi there inetpro  17mm06:36
inetproKilos: lucky!06:37
Kilosnever06:37
Kilosyeah06:37
Kilosnow sheep wont have probs till winter again06:37
inetproI got nothing extra after the 406:37
Kilosaw sorry06:37
inetproai!06:38
superflyOhi07:28
Kilosmorning superfly Vince-0 07:31
Vince-0Haai07:42
Vince-0Google developers office hours - Africa in 20mins: https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/cqcqu39ac89qcf86lt1qnunot7k07:42
Vince-0oh lol its tomorrow07:54
Kiloshi Private_User 08:03
Private_Userhi Kilos08:04
Kiloshi psyatw drussell 09:26
psyatwhi Kilos09:28
psyatwhi drussell09:28
Kiloswhew that win a nexus thing is hard work. after about a months battling i eventually managed to post "Done" there10:14
Kiloshate the page to page to page stuff10:14
Kilosdont even want the nexus but the 3TB drive will be cool10:15
oscarcarlHi all?10:53
oscarcarlI need assistance10:54
oscarcarlanyone there?10:54
oscarcarlI have a vodafone webbook running on ubuntu.10:54
oscarcarlI can't get the system to reload the os. Anyone with an idea how to?10:55
oscarcarlgood day george, please assist as a matter of urgency as I need to reload my os>10:56
drusselloscarcarl: the vodafone webbook is (iirc) based around an ARM SoC (system on chip) so none of the normal install methods or media will work11:00
oscarcarlany other way?11:24
superflymaybe one of the "armhf" images from here? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/releases/13.10/release/11:29
superflyI have no clue, this is just a suggestions11:30
oscarcarltried it, doen't work11:35
oscarcarlTypical vodacom. Doesn't release the software with their product. Must say, one of the kakest brand names. And on top, thieves.11:36
oscarcarlCan't believe that ubuntu has gone in with them. Vodacom must have sponsered a lot of money.> Shit.11:37
inetprofirst time I ever hear from anyone buying the Vodafone webbook11:46
inetprooscarcarl: how long have you had it for?11:56
Kiloshi oscarcarl 12:00
oscarcarlyes more than 2 years.. Now vodacom want me to take it in and reload the os, and charge me. Quite a joke.12:20
oscarcarlSo I would say that is thievery.12:21
oscarcarlI took it in 6 times. Now the warranty has expired. So, sounds like comunisim,12:22
oscarcarlI could do it myself to install, but as it has been said, iirc around arm. can't do nothing about that. Will through it away.12:24
oscarcarlit was only to do e-mails though and for the price, not bad at all. but anyway. I12:25
oscarcarl have 4 work phones for renewal for Januray 2014. vodacom has just lost my business forever!!!!!!!12:26
oscarcarlHi12:27
mazalBye everyone , enjoy your evening12:34
Kilossjoe12:47
Kilososcarcarl, can it connect to a pc?12:47
oscarcarlnope, does not work.12:49
Kiloswhy do you want to reload. can you try fix the existing os12:49
oscarcarlhow. Can't even go into bios12:49
Kilosare they made with connector to pc?12:49
Kilosoh my12:49
oscarcarlyou could, but not going to work12:50
Kiloshave you tried removing the battery for 10 mins12:50
oscarcarlonly 2 ubs ports12:50
Kiloshopefully bios will reset12:50
oscarcarlyes, done all of that.12:50
Kilosouch12:50
oscarcarlvodacom is a joke12:51
Kilosso it doesnt even switch on then?12:51
oscarcarlyes it does. get to go into shell, but how to reset evrything and change the pastword, can't do.12:52
oscarcarlpassword12:52
oscarcarl?12:52
oscarcarlyou need to get into the bios.12:53
Kiloswhen you plug it into the pc like that can the pc see anything?12:53
Kilosyou have a ubuntu pc roght?12:53
Kilosright12:53
oscarcarlI tried everything. Just does not work. When trying to go into bios , I get blocked.12:53
oscarcarlit is a webbook from vodafone.12:54
oscarcarlonly 4Gig hd, and 525b ram. I have used it only for mails.12:55
Kilosi dont know any modern fone thingies but was thinking maybe if ubuntu can see it a fsck might sort it12:55
oscarcarlit is not a fone, it is a webbook12:55
oscarcarlhow do you do the fsck?12:56
Kiloswell first your pc must see it so you have a path12:56
Kiloslike /media/something12:56
oscarcarlwait quik. I switch it on.12:56
oscarcarlok, just hang ten12:58
Kilosok12:58
oscarcarlok12:59
Kilosif not /media/something it will show as /dev/something12:59
oscarcarlls 12:59
oscarcarldone it. bin, dev, init, lib mnt, root ect.12:59
oscarcarlthe directories.13:00
Kiloscan disk utility or gparted see it13:00
Kiloswhat ubuntu are you using13:00
oscarcarlno, I am in the shell13:00
Kilosoh on the thing13:00
oscarcarlno disk utility13:01
Kilostry sudo touch /force/fsck13:01
Kilosthen reboot it13:01
oscarcarlin the  "command peomt"13:01
oscarcarl"promt"13:01
Kilosit should then run a filesystem check on booting13:01
Kilosyes13:02
oscarcarlwhat command do I type13:02
Kilosit is ubuntu on there hey?13:02
oscarcarl?13:02
oscarcarlcorrect13:02
Kilossudo touch /force/fsck13:02
oscarcarlonly ubuntu.13:02
Kilosjust like that13:02
Kilosthen you need to know the password you been using13:02
oscarcarlyou see sudo is not found13:03
Kiloseish13:03
oscarcarlCan't remember that. Changed it about 16 times13:03
oscarcarlbuggerd ne?13:03
Kilostry passwd13:03
oscarcarlsays /bin/sh: sudo: not found13:04
Kilostry apt-get install sudo13:04
oscarcarlok same, not found?13:04
Kilosor even try the command without sudo13:04
SilverCodeoscarcarl: does "ls /bin/*" show anything?13:04
oscarcarlnot found13:05
oscarcarlwait13:05
SilverCodedoes it say "ls" isn't found?13:05
oscarcarlyes cd bin and then ls13:05
oscarcarlyes, directories there.13:05
oscarcarlnope13:06
SilverCodeok, what does "echo $PATH" ?13:06
oscarcarlhang13:06
SilverCodewow13:06
SilverCodesounds like the HDD in that thing could be on the way out13:06
oscarcarlthere is a directory echo in bin13:07
Squirmoscarcarl: hang for hang on or is it hanging13:07
oscarcarlhang on......13:07
oscarcarlfunny13:07
SilverCodeoh, right13:07
SilverCodethen maybe not the drive :)13:07
oscarcarlthe hdd is fine.....smile13:07
oscarcarl:013:08
SilverCodealso, what does "/usr/bin/whoami" show?13:08
oscarcarlIwait.......13:09
oscarcarlis that in the bin directory, the command?13:09
SilverCodeno, it is in /usr/bin/ directory13:10
SilverCodeyou should just be able to type it in like that and it will run regardless of where it is relative to your current path13:10
oscarcarlit says permission denied....after typing /usr/bin/13:11
SilverCodehmm..13:12
SilverCodedo you know if you are able to get into a grub boot menu when the machine boots up?13:12
oscarcarlI can't, been denied13:13
oscarcarlesc, and just say denied , denied13:13
oscarcarlso i went in to the shell kernell, button on the back of the webbook13:14
SilverCodeit sounds like your filesystem and/or permissions have been messed up13:14
Kilosdid you type in wrong passwd a few times13:14
oscarcarlYes13:14
SilverCodehang on13:14
oscarcarlok13:15
SilverCodewait, no, that won't work13:15
SilverCodehow much do you know about linux (I just need to gauge what is possible)?13:15
oscarcarlgauge?13:15
SilverCodefor instance, do you know if you are logged in as root right now?13:16
oscarcarlI switch a button on the back of the webbook and can get into ubuntu installer main menu13:16
oscarcarlthat all13:16
SilverCodeok13:16
oscarcarland can get to the Execute a shell13:16
SilverCodewhat options does the menu offer?13:17
SilverCodeactually, lets step back a bit13:17
oscarcarlCant boot from flashdrive. I can connect the webbook to the internet but do not know the commands in execute a shell13:17
SilverCodewhat happens when you turn the netbook on, and what do you want/expect to happen (I missed the actual issue with the netbook)13:18
oscarcarlok.....13:18
oscarcarlconfigure the keyborad,13:18
oscarcarldetect and mount cd rom13:18
oscarcarlload debconf preconfiguration file13:19
oscarcarlload installer componants from cd13:19
oscarcarlchange debconf priority13:19
oscarcarlit gives me ubuntu installer after it can't read from the flash drive13:20
oscarcarlcritical, high, medium, or low...that is the 4 options13:21
SilverCodeI'm starting to go back to my original suspicion that the drive is failing/failed13:21
SilverCodeif both the bootloader and the installer can't detect the drive, then there is likely something wrong with the dirve13:22
SilverCode*drive13:22
oscarcarlI can boot the system  up, but then it now ask me for a password13:22
SilverCodebut it is hard to say for sure without having it infront of me13:22
oscarcarlI do not remember it13:22
SilverCodeis that the only issue?13:22
SilverCodeI tought the system woulnd't boot13:23
SilverCodeor didn't boot to a GUI13:23
oscarcarlso, I need a fresh install, and can't get it right13:23
oscarcarlit boots now, for the first time again.13:23
oscarcarlknow it ask for a past word?13:23
Kilosouch13:23
oscarcarlwait13:24
SilverCodethat makes things simpler and more complicated at the same time13:24
oscarcarlI know.13:24
SilverCodeif you could get into the grub menu you could boot to single user mode and change the password13:24
oscarcarlis there no way I can get into grub via "command prompt"?13:25
oscarcarlThere is a execute a shell, which gives me the ability to go to the "command prompt'13:26
oscarcarlit says then, the root file system is a ram disk13:26
Kiloswhat is a netbook?13:27
Kiloslike a lappy?13:27
SilverCodeif I understand the layout of that netbook correctly, the command prompt you are entering sounds like some sort of recovery shell13:27
oscarcarlthe hard disk file system are mounted on "/target" the editor available is nano.13:27
oscarcarlsomething like that.13:28
SilverCodewhich would be perfect ... if it actually seemed to work, but as you said above, you don't seem to have full access in that shell13:28
oscarcarlyes correct13:28
oscarcarlso how do i go about this? that is waht vodafone is doing. 13:29
oscarcarlSo now after 2 years, I have to start paying for a system restore?13:29
oscarcarlno way. i refuse.13:30
SilverCodenot sure how Vodafone would re-load Ubuntu to be honest13:30
Kiloscan you google?13:30
Kiloshttp://askubuntu.com/questions/24006/how-do-i-reset-a-lost-administrative-password13:30
oscarcarlAnd they do not want to give me their sofware vesion of ubuntu that was written for them.13:30
Kilospower might die here. storming13:30
oscarcarlask who, done all of that yesterday the whole day.13:31
oscarcarlno I can't google, who can not? huh uh......boring :)13:32
SilverCodeoscarcarl: what does "ls /usr/sbin/*" show?13:32
Kilosthe password change bit?13:32
oscarcarlwait a sec13:32
oscarcarlnot found13:32
SilverCodebloody hell13:33
oscarcarlI know. 13:33
SilverCodewhat happens if you type chroot?13:33
oscarcarlls then I can see some directories13:33
oscarcarlbusybox v 1.13.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu) multi-vcall binary13:35
SilverCodeok, busybox, that helps13:35
oscarcarlusage: chroot newroot [command.......]13:35
SilverCodetry "mount"13:35
SilverCodeshould list a bunch of stuff13:35
oscarcarlyes13:36
SilverCodeis there a line that says something like "sda1 on /target"?13:37
SilverCodeand if so, what exactly deos it say?13:37
oscarcarlok, 5 lines goes as....13:37
oscarcarlrootfs on / type rootfs (rw)13:38
oscarcarlnone on /proc type proc (rw,relatime)13:38
oscarcarlnone on 'sys type sysfs (rw,relatime)13:39
oscarcarltmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,relatime)13:39
oscarcarldevpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,relatime,mode=600)13:40
oscarcarlthats it13:40
SilverCodeok, try "fdisk -l /dev/sda"13:41
oscarcarlok13:41
oscarcarlnot found13:42
SilverCodedoes it say  the command "fdisk" isn't found, or that "/dev/sda" isn't found?13:42
oscarcarlsorry:13:42
oscarcarlwait13:43
oscarcarlare you getting anything i have just send?13:44
oscarcarl"/bin/sh: fdisk: not found"13:45
oscarcarlthere we go13:45
SilverCode*sigh*13:45
SilverCodefinal stab at something, try "busybox --list"13:45
SilverCodethat will list a bunch of commands that you can currently use13:46
SilverCodesee if we can find anything in that list to work with13:46
oscarcarl"--list: applet not found"13:46
oscarcarlif I type help, there is a couple of commands...13:47
oscarcarlwill that help you?13:47
SilverCodeit might13:47
oscarcarlbg break cd chdir command continue echo eva1 exec exit 13:48
oscarcarlexport false fg getopts hash help jobs kill let loacal printf pwd read13:49
oscarcarlreadonly return st shift source13:49
oscarcarltest times trap true type ulinit umask unset wait13:50
oscarcarlthat is all the command in help13:50
SilverCodewow, they really stripped that busybox down13:50
oscarcarlyip13:50
SilverCodetry "mount /dev/sda1"13:51
SilverCodewait, no13:51
oscarcarlbusybox13:51
oscarcarlok waiting13:51
SilverCodemount /dev/sda1 /mnt13:51
SilverCode(forgot teh mount point)13:51
oscarcarlmount: mounting /dev/sda1 on mnt failed: No such file or directory13:53
SilverCodels /13:53
oscarcarlI typed just busybox and more defined fucktions has come up13:54
oscarcarlyes13:54
oscarcarlyes about 13 directories13:54
SilverCodeok, type "mkdir /tmp/mount"13:54
oscarcarlok13:54
SilverCodethat should create a folder /tmp/mount13:54
SilverCodeten type "mount /dev/sda1 /tmp/mount"13:55
SilverCode*then13:55
SilverCodehopefully that will mount the hard drive to /tmp/mount13:55
oscarcarlthere is already a tmp directory under ls13:55
oscarcarlwill that overite?13:55
SilverCodeno, it will create a new directory undet /tmp calles "mount"13:56
SilverCode*called13:56
SilverCode...or give you an error that you can't do that13:56
oscarcarlwait13:56
oscarcarlcannot create directory '/tmp/mount': file exist13:57
SilverCodeok, then just do the 2nd part "mount /dev/sda1 /tmp/mount"13:58
Kiloswhew heavy storm13:59
Kilosinetpro, stay at work till its gone over13:59
oscarcarlmount: mounting /dev/sda1 on /tmp/mount failed: No such file or directory14:00
SilverCodeI'm starting to run out of ideas14:01
SilverCodebasically what I wanted to do was mount the hard drive, chroot to it so the command line you are working in modifies the correct files14:02
SilverCodethen use passwd to reset the password of your user account14:02
oscarcarlnot found14:02
SilverCodebut busybox doesn't seem to want to play along and offer up the info and utilites I need for this14:02
oscarcarlThat is why I am saying that vodacom, the service provider and fodafone are buggering everything up14:03
oscarcarlamr and ubuntu have to listen to vodacom though14:04
oscarcarljust a way of protecting there products and forcing people to pay after wrranties expired and make mony14:04
oscarcarlmoney14:04
SilverCodethere are other ways to get around this, but it is beyond the scope of IRC help14:05
oscarcarlwho could I contact then?14:06
SilverCodeany competent Linux person in your area should be able to assist14:06
SilverCodedon't know of any specific companies though14:06
SilverCodeyou in CPT area right?14:07
oscarcarlAs i said, I am not going to pay a dime for this. I will most probbibly take a 10 pound hammer and squash this machine, before 14:07
oscarcarlthrouging it away. :)14:08
oscarcarlyes sir14:08
SilverCodethere is a 0XC0FFEE meetup happening this Saturday at 1pm at Jamaica Me Crazy in Woodstock. The guys that go to that those meetups are usually people who can help with problems like yours and are always happy meet new people14:10
SilverCodeso maybe drop by there on Saturday with the netbook and see if anyone is willing to help14:11
SilverCodemight cost yo a beer14:11
inetprothanks Kilos14:11
SilverCodehttp://0xc0ffee-cpt.co.za/14:12
inetprooscarcarl: at least you got two years of usage out of it14:12
oscarcarlcool thx14:12
oscarcarlyip14:12
inetprocan't expect much more for just R150014:13
oscarcarl2 years minus 5 weeks for taking it in and reload the os. what a joke14:13
oscarcarlnot giving me the os, they refuse.14:14
SilverCodeoscarcarl: would you be willing to sell the thing? and if so, for how much?14:14
oscarcarlR 1200?14:14
oscarcarlDon't know.14:14
inetproR1200 might be a bit steap14:15
Kilossteep14:16
oscarcarlI know, just a thumb suck. What would you say a good price is?14:16
SilverCodeoscarcarl: interestingly a friend of mines netbook stopped charging recently and he wants to get a replacement (and know more than enough to reload the OS), but he isn't wanting to really spend more than R500 on a 2nd hand one14:16
oscarcarlI know that you could buy it for round R 1800 new working order though14:16
inetprooscarcarl: how much did you pay initially?14:17
oscarcarlR 180014:17
inetprohmm... 14:18
inetprowhat's the average lifetime of a laptop these days?14:18
oscarcarlremember it is only 4 G hd, and 525 MB ram. Got a buil in camera, but that is about it.14:19
oscarcarldepends on the tempreture your cpu is running at.14:20
inetproAFAIK companies replace laptops every 4 years these days14:23
oscarcarlThanx for the assistance though. I have learned alot today again.14:23
Kilososcarcarl, you must visit more often14:24
inetproa rough guess from that means you loose about R450 per year14:24
Kiloswhen things are working too14:24
oscarcarlAnd these companies does not even make full use of these laptops14:25
inetproso I guess R900 should be fair for a working webbook14:25
inetprooscarcarl: that is true14:25
oscarcarlYip, i am listening to all these negotiations going on. Intresting14:26
inetproobviously I'm over simplifying with my calculation14:26
oscarcarlI mean there is companies that only started making use of windows 7 now, who has just gone of xp14:26
oscarcarllogic, important though, some people does not even have it. :)14:27
Kiloswith that ram and cpu it should work fine on xp14:28
oscarcarlyeah wright14:28
inetprobut that webbook is really not worth much by the looks of things14:28
oscarcarlcorrect. entery market for typing, mails, and browsing.14:29
inetprobased on the following link: http://gearburn.com/2011/11/review-the-vodafone-webbook-cheap-plastic-nasty/14:29
oscarcarlSkype won't even work14:29
oscarcarlI know14:29
oscarcarlDone all this research14:29
Kilosai!14:30
Kilososcarcarl, you a student?14:30
oscarcarlAnd now want to charge for the os install of the os? sjoe. Even the poorest of the poor wil end up paying for this crap14:31
oscarcarlnope, which I was again though. 14:31
inetprooscarcarl: you can't blame them, they need to pay salaries14:32
inetprothe lesson in this is just not to buy from Vodafone and rather do your homework and be independent14:33
inetprobuy the hardware and install your own OS14:34
Kiloshas it not got a cdrom even?14:34
oscarcarlnope14:35
Kilosuse an external14:35
oscarcarlthey won't sell it14:35
oscarcarlthat does not even work14:35
oscarcarlI even tried the ubuntu mini, about 30 MB download. Did the whole inshala with LiLi usb creator, and still does not want to read the boot up or os.14:37
oscarcarlVodafone and ubuntu has specifically wrote it for this machine. Running a iirc with arm cpu.14:37
oscarcarlThis webbook was for one of my people working for me. Just mails basically.14:39
oscarcarlfree software!14:40
inetproso it just stopped working?14:40
oscarcarlgo to fullypcgames.com14:40
inetproor it stopped because you tried to upgrade?14:40
oscarcarlThey have blocked the bios14:41
oscarcarlthat as well.14:42
oscarcarlit came out with version 10.04 14:42
inetproI wonder what would be a good cheap replacement in the same league 14:42
Kiloscan you not even boot into bios with delete or F114:42
inetproeven mobile phones have more oomph than that thing these days14:43
oscarcarlnope14:44
oscarcarlbeen blocked14:44
Kiloswow14:44
Kilosthats so they canncharge for repairs14:44
Kilosswines14:44
oscarcarlyip I know. Just the e-mails on phones is a bit irritating to read all the time14:44
oscarcarlrather get a a tablet14:45
oscarcarlgoogle to find replacement14:45
* inetpro still enjoys the value from purchasing the Acer Aspire One Happy more than two years ago14:46
Kilosi dont think youll find anything close to that price14:47
inetprohas it's problems but my wife is still using it 14:47
Kilossecond hand maybe14:47
Kilosinetpro, is there no way to boot into root terminal14:49
Kilosthen reset password14:49
Kiloshi charl 14:50
charlgood afternoon14:50
charlhi Kilos 14:50
inetproKilos: it's a ARM device14:50
Kilosi dunno what that is14:50
Kilosdont it have root?14:50
oscarcarlyes, buit can't excess it14:55
Kilosthere must be a way14:56
Kilosvodafone knows how14:56
oscarcarlits the cpu14:56
Kilosso if you cant get into root you cant choose another boot device either14:56
oscarcarlI don't know?14:57
Kilosfrustrating when they do things like that14:57
oscarcarlcorrect14:57
oscarcarlbeen blocked14:57
oscarcarlyip14:57
Kiloslike branding 3g modems and cellphones14:57
Kilosgrrr14:57
oscarcarlyip14:57
Kilossomeone somewhere will know how to crack it14:58
oscarcarlbut at least you could sell the phones to nabouring countries and it will work. Not this thing>14:58
Kiloswould be interesting to try sort it out14:59
Kilosmust be a way14:59
oscarcarlyip, but don't have time for this.14:59
oscarcarlyip14:59
oscarcarlAnyway, all go well, go shell.14:59
Kilosits like dstv decoders too. they plug into pc and can do anything to it14:59
Kilosgood luck15:00
Kiloswe live here15:00
oscarcarland thx to SilverCode for the help.15:00
oscarcarlawe.15:00
SilverCodeoscarcarl: no problem, just wish we could have actually gotten somewhere15:00
oscarcarlyip15:01
inetprooscarcarl: don't give up and just be back here soon15:01
oscarcarlok will do.15:01
Kilossafe to go home quick inetpro 15:02
Kilosmore rain tonight15:02
inetproKilos: hmm... still have lots to do man15:03
inetprobut perhaps should do it from home15:03
Kilosai!15:03
inetprothanks for the heads up15:03
Kilosok ill tell it to hold off15:04
inetpro:-)15:04
Kiloshehe15:04
Kiloswe had 7 mm and 7 power offs15:04
Kiloshere are replacement options for oscar15:21
Kiloshttp://www.ananzi.co.za/stuff/cheap-laptops-south-africa.html15:21
theblazehenhi all15:23
Kiloshi theblazehen 15:23
Kiloshows things15:23
Kilosfinished exams?15:23
theblazehenGoing well kilos, exams all finished. How's things with you?15:24
Kilosgood ty15:24
Kilosbuilding a wifi yagi but major work to do it properly15:25
theblazehenah ok15:25
Kilosnot easy to measure to .01mm with old eye15:28
theblazehenyeah, I'd believe15:28
Kiloshahaha15:28
Kilosbut fun though if there is no rush15:29
theblazehenyeah15:31
theblazehenthanks will try it now15:31
theblazehenoops wrong vhannel15:31
theblazehenchannel*15:31
oscarcarlwebbook? password reset?17:16
oscarcarl?17:33
oscarcarlany one17:33
oscarcarl?17:33
theblazehenHi?17:35
theblazehenoscarcarl, what is webbook17:35
oscarcarlalmost like a netbook17:36
theblazehenRunning ubuntu?17:36
oscarcarl4 g hdd and 525MB ram17:36
oscarcarlvery small17:36
oscarcarlyes.17:36
theblazehenOn it now?17:36
oscarcarlCan't do reset of password.17:37
theblazehenWhat is the problem when you try? Do you get an error?17:37
oscarcarlHad a problem with booting, now working, but password is missing.17:37
oscarcarlnot autheticating.17:37
oscarcarlwrong password.17:37
oscarcarlneet to reset, and can't17:38
oscarcarlyes. I am in the shell.17:38
theblazehenok. Turn it off, then turn it on and repeatedly press the tab (?) key, choose single user or recovery console. You should have a terminal. You then need to run passwd and your username, eg. 'passwd joe', then you can set a new password17:39
oscarcarliow, command propt17:39
oscarcarlhang one second17:39
oscarcarlin the terminal.17:40
theblazehenk17:40
theblazehenroot terminal?17:40
oscarcarlnot found17:40
oscarcarlyip17:41
oscarcarlls, gives me all the directories17:41
theblazehenok...17:41
oscarcarlbin, dev, init, lib, root ect.17:41
theblazehentry /usr/bin/passwd your_username17:42
oscarcarlok17:42
oscarcarlnot found17:43
theblazehenwell, I have one word left for you then :( -- "Shit"17:43
theblazehenNo idea how to continue, sorry17:43
oscarcarlnot found17:44
oscarcarlok17:44
oscarcarlthx17:44
theblazehenMaybe try and reinstall orsomething17:44
oscarcarlcan't17:44
oscarcarldoes not want to accept17:44
theblazehenThe install?17:45
oscarcarlany ubuntu mini or iso via flashdrive.17:45
theblazehenah ok17:45
theblazehenwell sorry man17:45
oscarcarlis there a way to connect via internet with the web book via the terminal?17:46
Kilosohi oscarcarl you back17:46
oscarcarlyes, no flippen answer for nothing17:47
Kilososcarcarl, does it only boot from the hdd? no option to boot from flash?17:48
Kiloshi psychicist 17:49
psychicisthi Kilos 17:49
oscarcarlyes, only from hd, but there is a button on the back, switch that you press and take you to the terminal.17:49
psychicisthi oscarcarl 17:49
oscarcarlyes17:50
Kilosthe password thing is a pain17:50
Kilosyou gotta always keep password safe17:50
Kiloshehe17:50
Kiloslets see what google says17:51
oscarcarlI know. Windows does not have that prob though17:51
oscarcarlnothing. done it all17:51
Kiloscan you boot as another user?17:52
oscarcarlthere is other but do not know the password for that other either17:53
oscarcarlit just says other17:53
Kilostry make a new user17:53
oscarcarlI am at the terminal now17:53
Kilosand give it admin rights17:53
oscarcarlhow?17:53
Kilosai! i forgot sorry17:53
Kilostheblazehen, do you know17:54
Kilosive only done it once , but forgot now how i did it17:54
Kilosi think i used sudo adduser something17:54
Kilosbut sudo dont work on webthing17:55
oscarcarlthat is not found17:55
Kiloslets see what we can find17:55
theblazehennot quite sure17:55
theblazehenthink you can manually add in /etc/sudoers17:55
Kiloswhat happens if you hold down shift while booting17:56
oscarcarlwait a second, will try now17:56
Kilossomewhere i saw if that dont work try tapping shift all the time while booting17:56
Kiloshere is the link to follow to change root password17:58
Kiloshttp://foralllinux.blogspot.com/2010/11/how-to-reset-root-password-in-ubuntu.html17:58
Kilosi dont know what you guys tried while i was offline17:58
Kilostheblazehen, he gets to the terminal by pushing some button on the thing but it cant find sudo from there or do anything that needs passwd18:00
theblazehenYeah, I saw. No idea how to continue unfortunately18:00
Kilosi dunno what vodacom has done on that 10.0418:01
oscarcarlI am in command promp. done the LS and gives me al 16 directories. done the usr/paaswrd ect, does not work though18:04
Kiloswhat did it do when you hold down shift and boot18:05
oscarcarlnothing, screen goes on and of on and of18:09
oscarcarland nothing happens. then as for password.18:10
Kilosand when you tap shift while booting18:10
oscarcarlcan't get to the bios at all18:10
oscarcarlnothing18:10
oscarcarlesc-nothing18:10
Kilosno that should get you to a brub boot menu18:10
oscarcarlF1 nothing18:10
Kilosgrub18:10
oscarcarlnot found18:11
Kilosthe bios is letting it boot, we just need to get the password changed18:11
Kilosai! where are all the clever peeps18:12
oscarcarlyip18:14
oscarcarlpassword change18:15
Kilosyou did hold down the left shift key hey?18:15
Kilosright doesnt work18:16
Kilosgoosie waar is jy man18:17
Kilososcarcarl, whats happening18:35
oscarcarlnothing18:36
Kilosi looked for lappies in that price rang for you18:36
oscarcarlnobody seems to know linux the way tey should around here.18:36
Kilosrange18:37
oscarcarlnothing really18:37
Kilosi found18:37
oscarcarland?18:37
oscarcarlhang on, getting a sigarette now18:38
Kilosbut thats only if we cant get a clever oke to help with this passwd thing18:38
Kiloshttp://www.ananzi.co.za/stuff/cheap-laptops-south-africa.html18:38
Kilosthey all core2 duo with bigger drives for R180018:38
Kilosproper lappys18:38
Kiloslots of ubuntu probs can be fixed by booting from a cd or flash but you dont even have that option18:40
Kilosas a matter of interest fone vodacom tomorrow and ask what they charge to reset the password18:40
oscarcarlthey won't reset, they will load the os18:41
oscarcarlI am getting my money back for sure18:42
oscarcarlleft a message and have send a mail to the MD. awaiting his feedback18:42
oscarcarlcore 2 is to slow these days anyway.18:43
Kilosno man im running one with ubuntu 12.04 and win718:43
oscarcarlAnd on top I need a proper vdeo driver18:44
Kilosoh my is a desktop18:44
Kilosoh havent lappies got good video18:44
Kilosi dont like then18:44
oscarcarlme neither18:44
Kilosonly got old desktops here18:44
oscarcarlDesktop still stays the best though18:45
Kilosi think so too, but cant carry it around18:45
oscarcarldon't care18:46
Kilosa dual with 2g ram is fine nif its for an employee that needs mail and so on18:46
Kiloscant do modern gaming though18:46
Kilosgood desktops are expensive18:47
oscarcarlyip, nor proper games18:47
oscarcarlfullypcgames.com18:47
Kilosi dont game since going ubuntu18:47
Kilospc too slow and graphics cards too expensive18:48
Kiloshas the webthing only got usb?18:48
Kiloshow can you link it to another pc18:48
oscarcarlalso expensive though18:48
oscarcarlusb data bundles18:48
Kilosyeah i know18:49
Kilosbest is 8ta18:49
Kilostelkom18:49
oscarcarlyip18:49
Kilos2+1 for R14918:49
Kiloswhere are you?18:49
oscarcarlI think I pay something like R 229 for 29 gig adsl though18:49
oscarcarl20gig18:50
Kiloswhew18:50
oscarcarlcpt18:50
Kilosi can only dream os such a cap18:50
oscarcarlwhere r u?18:50
Kiloslotsa clever peeps there but all superbusy with life18:50
Kilospretoria18:50
oscarcarlpinkies18:51
oscarcarlpinkie bulle18:51
Kilosdoes that webthing have ethernet connector18:51
Kiloslol18:51
Kilosno man i support the sharks18:51
oscarcarleven worse18:52
Kiloseeeek18:52
Kilosdidnt we win ?18:52
oscarcarlyou know rugby 08?18:52
Kilosyou a stormer18:52
oscarcarlcurrie cup though18:52
oscarcarlnope, Lion.18:52
Kiloswell we still won18:52
Kilosah18:53
oscarcarlWas gone out of the super 15 but back this year. NOW THAT IS A SHIT TEAM IN THE SUPER !%.18:53
Kiloshey man has the thing got ethernet connector18:53
oscarcarl1518:53
oscarcarlCURRIE CUP SOSO18:53
Kiloshehe18:53
Kilosim a shark by heart and love natal18:54
Kilosbut too old to do anything but hit a keyboard18:54
oscarcarlthe webbook?18:54
Kilosyes the webthing18:54
oscarcarlnope18:54
oscarcarl 2 usb ports, that is it18:54
Kilosim trying to think how we can connect it to another pc18:55
Kilosouch18:55
oscarcarlcan't,18:55
oscarcarltried alraedy18:55
Kilosok so then 18:55
Kilosfirst fone vodacom tomorrow and get price to reset password18:55
oscarcarlI am linked via a usb port to my modem onto my pc18:55
oscarcarlbut pc does not pic up the webbook18:56
Kiloswindows18:56
oscarcarlAnd I do need the command to l;nk to the pc18:56
oscarcarlpc is win 7 prof18:56
Kiloswhat os on pc?18:56
Kiloseish18:56
Kilosonly thing windows picks up is virii and so on18:57
Kiloswin cant see ext4 drives18:57
oscarcarlit can if you run it throughn the modem, but i have not had the time for this18:58
Kilosanyway my idea is18:58
Kiloswe first gotta get into bios somehow18:58
oscarcarlcool, but not going to work as ubuntu needs a password18:59
oscarcarlyip18:59
Kilosthen you need to beg steal or borrow and external dvdrom18:59
oscarcarlor flash, also working18:59
Kilosthen once we got bios sorted then boot from a buntu cd18:59
Kilosor flash ya18:59
Kilosok lemme keep trying to find how to get into that bios19:00
oscarcarlthe problem still stays, that the way ubuntu and vodafone has written the os, it is protected.19:00
oscarcarlvodacom, asses19:01
Kilosif you can boot from a flsah you can force things to happen19:01
oscarcarlyip, but I can't. The ubunto os from the websides does not work on the masjien. 19:02
Kilosall work from the cd will be cli commands19:02
oscarcarlthe processor is arm and iirc system. That is the way it is designed.19:03
Kilosthere are arm isos available19:03
oscarcarlyou need someone to crack the os.19:03
Kiloslook here19:04
Kiloshttp://community.vodacom.co.za/t5/Other-Devices/vodafone-webbook/td-p/657?redirected=true19:04
oscarcarlok19:04
Kiloshard work for me to read all that19:04
Kilosyou cant be the only one with that prob19:04
Kilosinetpro, jy drop my ne19:05
oscarcarlyou see, vodacom does not want to give me the os. That is my whole point. I have been on the phone with them for almost 3 hours the past 2 days.19:06
oscarcarlThey insist bringing it in. The warranty is gone and now I will be charged. So they can take the os and shuf it.19:07
Kiloshow much do they charge?19:07
oscarcarlI don't know. I have 4 phones for renewal comming up in Jan. + one in Feb. They can forget about the business from me. WHAP BAM GONE.19:08
Kiloslol19:08
oscarcarlanyway, i am out an about, hitting tyhe pillows now. Tjorts19:10
Kilosnight19:12
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:20

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