[00:00] <Beldar> anton02, This is before the d though right the link?
[00:00] <Beldar> dd*
[00:00] <anton02> yes
[00:01] <litropy> What is the command for restarting Unity these days?
[00:02] <nutter_> I have a citrix challenge....anybody?
[00:02] <timo_49> what do that do
[00:03] <nutter_> ICA client for windows remote users
[00:03] <Beldar> anton02, So not really an accurate script, I would run just the bootinfo summary on the bootrepiar app and post it here. This is the repair apps developer and they among a few others are about the best help in this area. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[00:03] <anton02> thanks
[00:04] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, I am folloging the guide to install winbind and one of the steps involves restarting samba. After successfully installing with apt-get neighter /etc/init.d/samba or service samba finds the program. Has the name been changed recently?
[00:04] <Beldar> anton02, No problem, this can be frustrating at times I know.
[00:06] <OerHeks> nutter_, all i know is the wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CitrixICAClientHowTo
[00:06] <qin_> Pinkamena_D: sudo service smbd restart; unless you have very old version
[00:07] <crhistian> hola a todos
[00:07] <crhistian> que hay de interesante poraca
[00:10] <iceroot> is there a way to find out when a system was installed? (date of a specific file for example which did not change during all the updates)
[00:11] <dragonfly> iceroot: maybe see when the directory /home was created?
[00:11] <dragonfly> or /boot
[00:11] <dragonfly> or /etc
[00:11] <iceroot> dragonfly: i am not aware how to see when it was created, only when it was changed last time
[00:12] <ubuntuinstallhel> hi I need help getting my Intel 4695AGN wireless adapter working for Ubuntu 12.04.3. I have a post at http://askubuntu.com/questions/385802/intel-4965agn-unable-to-connect-wireless
[00:12] <ubuntuinstallhel> can someone please look at it and help me out with it?
[00:12] <articsun> hm
[00:13] <articsun> ubuntuinstallhel:  did you try searching for drivers?
[00:13] <articsun> :)
[00:13] <qin_> iceroot: I think it is connected with file system creation
[00:14] <dragonfly> or really any of those that would have been created on install.....nevermind, i found something that tells me that won't work
[00:14] <articsun> hm
[00:14] <articsun> :(
[00:14] <qin_> iceroot: tune2fs -l
[00:15] <iceroot> qin_: thank you, that seems to be correct
[00:15] <iceroot> qin_: but sudo dumpe2fs /dev/sda1 | grep 'Filesystem created:'   delivers something different
[00:15] <ubuntuinstallhel> =articsun: no i have not. I am not a Linux user. Trying to migrate from windows
[00:15] <iceroot> a difference of 1 month
[00:15] <lawltoad> Hi, somthing fails after lightdm when logging into my session, what log woudl that fail into
[00:16] <articsun> hm
[00:16] <articsun> ubuntuinstallhel:
[00:18] <iceroot> qin_:i bet tune2fs -l is just showing the version and the date tune2fs was build
[00:18] <iceroot> qin_: tune2fs without -l is showing the same, so its not working, but the grep command i found seems to work
[00:20] <Beldar> ubuntuinstallhel, some info on getting it to work http://askubuntu.com/questions/169176/how-to-fix-slow-wireless-with-intel-4965-agn
[00:20] <impossible> id like to try ubuntu but cant get in bios
[00:20] <Beldar> impossible, locked?
[00:20] <impossible> Beldar: i think so
[00:20] <impossible> Beldar: i did it once on a samsung that had win 8
[00:21] <impossible> Beldar: i went to bios once on this and never again could i. i dot remember what i pressed. the laptop is new
[00:21] <Beldar> impossible, Thee is a per-session boot menu outside the bios, mine is a f12 at powering on yours may be the same or a different key or keys.
[00:21] <Beldar> There*
[00:22] <Beldar> impossible, The splash you see when powering on if there generally has a bios and this other menu info.
[00:22] <impossible> Beldar: i tried many buttons including f12 ill try again. it trys to take me to a diagnostics when i [presslike f6
[00:22] <impossible> i see the brand logo and at the bottom it doesnt show options for bootmenu or bios
[00:23] <impossible> it just shows a circle thing and starts booting into windows 8
[00:24] <Beldar> impossible, A manual for this computer may tell you, generally I have found it with googling the model and per-session boot or other google foo
[00:24] <impossible> i tried that as well with the online maual
[00:24] <impossible> and googling
[00:25] <impossible> damn thanks anyways
[00:25] <impossible> ill see
[00:25] <pringlescan> ubuntu runs incredibly bad on the Dell Precision T1700 :-( never had issues with ubuntu before, but it's very unreliable at my new job
[00:25] <pringlescan> been through 12.04 (twice) and 12.10 three times, two different boxes
[00:25] <Beldar> impossible, You could call the manufacturer as well maybe.
[00:25] <Phil_new> Hi - I just updated from 12.10 to 13.04 and I'm locked out of my account. I can log in as guest, but I want to get my old account back.
[00:25] <impossible> will do
[00:26] <impossible> thaknks
[00:26] <Beldar> Phil_new, No errors on upgrade?
[00:27] <Phil_new> Beldar: No errors, except some that flashed as the system rebooted
[00:27] <Beldar> pringlescan, So you want sympathy or help?
[00:28] <litropy> What is the command for restarting Unity these days?
[00:28] <pringlescan> not sure, i'm sick and i have to be here early in the morning, i'd like to fix it
[00:28] <articsun> litropy:  sudo something restart?
[00:28] <litropy> articsun, yes.
[00:28] <Beldar> Phil_new, Might be worth doing a text boot by hitting e at grub and removing the quiet splash to look for errors. You can get in through recovery and change the password, but it may be an issue that does not address is all.
[00:29] <articsun> ah
[00:29] <articsun> litropy:  I'm not sure hmm
[00:29] <articsun> litropy:  it should be fairly easy to Google?
[00:29] <Beldar> pringlescan, Have you tried any other desktop installs in these installs?
[00:29] <pringlescan> the first 2 times weren't my fault, the third i ended up doing zfs on linux because I missed solaris
[00:29] <pringlescan> desktop installs of what?
[00:30] <Beldar> pringlescan, lubuntu, xubuntu...etc
[00:30] <pringlescan> I did a kubuntu-desktop install after removing ubuntu-desktop
[00:30] <bugs_bugger> greetings! can anybody tell me how i can reinstall a lvm setup while keeping my separate home and data partitions?
[00:30] <pringlescan> gnome was a big aprt of the problem
[00:31] <Beldar> pringlescan, so you don't think a lighter desktop was worth trying?
[00:31] <Phil_new> Beldar: I don't understand 'an  issue that does not address is all.
[00:32] <Phil_new> Beldar: I don't understand 'an  issue that does not address is all.'
[00:32] <pringlescan> Beldar: it is, everyone was using kde except one guy who was using something really weird
[00:32] <pringlescan> that used haskell for config files
[00:32] <Beldar> Phil_new, It may be an issue that changing the password fixes
[00:32] <Beldar> er does not fix
[00:32] <pringlescan> i don't really need a desktop, i'd like to run a browser, terminal windows, pidgin and an intellij ide
[00:33] <pringlescan> wm would be fine
[00:33] <pringlescan> i want good compatibility though, i hate fussing with things
[00:33] <Beldar> pringlescan, do a met install and add what you need.
[00:33] <Beldar> net*
[00:33] <pringlescan> I did except for when I did ubuntu-desktop
[00:34] <pringlescan> I started from scratch with a ubuntu-minimal
[00:34] <utusan> do a net-install and then install openbox
[00:34] <pringlescan> 12.04 lts, then upgrading it to 12.10 broke grub and the kernel due to zfs missing
[00:34] <Beldar> pringlescan, was that a net install or 12.04's alternative?
[00:34] <pringlescan> i booted from a 12.04 live cd and followed this: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/pkg-zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Ubuntu-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem
[00:34] <impos> hey i got into bios. how can i make it show the buttons at bottom and boot into ubuntu
[00:34] <pringlescan> note, this is not the source of my issues, just the latest issue, i did try without zfs
[00:35] <Eli-5dce> is there any way I can get mobility radion drivers (9000 IGP) online? or somewhere
[00:36] <Eli-5dce> *radeon
[00:36] <Beldar> pringlescan, I believe zfs is not really a developed to finished thing is all, kit is in a ppa to begin with from your link,
[00:36] <pringlescan> what i was told I need to do is chroot into my install and install grub from 13.x
[00:37] <Beldar> pringlescan, might help if you listed the hardware.
[00:37] <pringlescan> i know how to get in there, but how do I bring in that new package
[00:38] <Beldar> impos, This a usb boot, and do you mean the choices of try, install, check memory gui?
[00:39] <Beldar> impos, I can't tell at all what you mean in other words.
[00:40] <Beldar> pringlescan, Get in there means the chroot?
[00:40] <pringlescan> I just need to know how to install a package from harding that uses a ppa
[00:40] <pringlescan> "You could try adding the raring zfs-native/grub PPA" — that's what I need to do
[00:40] <pringlescan> *raring
[00:40] <Beldar> pringlescan, Your installing Harding?
[00:40] <Beldar> ah raring
[00:41] <Beldar> pringlescan, Get in there means the chroot?
[00:41] <pringlescan> i chrooted in
[00:41] <pringlescan> to my old system
[00:42] <Beldar> pringlescan, once chrooted run apt-get update then load the ppa the apt-get update the apt-get install "package"
[00:42] <pringlescan> but i'm on quantal
[00:42] <pringlescan> I need it to load from raring
[00:42] <Jordan_U> pringlescan: What is your end goal?
[00:42] <impos> should cbanging boot mode to legacy support help?
[00:42] <impos> help boot into Ubuntu
[00:43] <Beldar> pringlescan, wont work unless you modified the ppa call to raring.
[00:43] <Jordan_U> impos: Doing that would probably break booting of Windows, and should not be needed.
[00:43] <impos> ok
[00:43] <Pinkamena_D> apt-get was interrupted and has errors. -f install and dpkg reconfigure do not help, any other way to fix?
[00:43] <pringlescan> Beldar, I made changes to /etc/apt/sources.list.d to point to raring
[00:44] <Jordan_U> impos: How did you create the Ubuntu USB you're trying to boot from? How did you configure your boot firmware to boot from USB?
[00:44] <pringlescan> I changed quantal to raring in the files, and I also made xxxxx-raring.list files
[00:44] <pringlescan> running apt-get update
[00:44] <Jordan_U> pringlescan: What is your end goal?
[00:44] <pringlescan> adding the raring zfs-native/grub PPA so I can boot from a zfs root on 12.10
[00:46] <pringlescan> crap...
[00:46] <pringlescan> I just did apt-get install ubuntu-zfs which will replace the kernel modules too I think
[00:46] <pringlescan> I just wanted zfs-native/grub to do the grub parts
[00:47] <ResQue> I cant get a GUI when i EFI boot the ubuntu 13.10 live dvd, i can get to tty0 and i copied the whole /var/log dir. Could someone please help me, here is my xorg.0.log file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6522651/
[00:47] <Jordan_U> pringlescan: It looks like all that the ppa contains is grub.
[00:48] <Jordan_U> pringlescan: It looks like it's the https://launchpad.net/~zfs-native/+archive/stable ppa that contains ubuntu-zfs.
[00:48] <ResQue> I think it may have something todo with my graphics card to drivers, i had to add the kernel nomodeset just to get to the tty console, before i added nomodeset i couldnt even boot
[00:49] <pringlescan> Jordan_U I changed both PPA to raring
[00:49] <pringlescan> so if I change one back to quantal
[00:49] <Jordan_U> pringlescan: Why did you do that?
[00:49] <pringlescan> can I Fix it?
[00:49] <pringlescan> because I didn't know what to do
[00:49] <pringlescan> I'm tired and sick, not making much sense, but I need this to be done before I can go home and eat/sleep
[00:50] <pfifo> lol, i havent restarted my system since I upgraded the kernel and im now upgrading it again. An entire kernel downloaded, installed and never used
[00:50] <Jordan_U> pringlescan: No, use ppa-purge to completely remove the zfs-native ppa and all of the packages that have been installed from there, then re-add the ppa and re-install ubuntu-zfs.
[00:50] <xzcvczx> i have a usb FTDI device and notice that when it is connected to an ubuntu machine something is constantly opening (and closing) it, i have used usbmon+wireshark but don't see any traffic, is there anything that usbmon would miss?
[00:51] <pringlescan> and only the grub part should be raring and the other part should be quantal
[00:51] <pringlescan> I'm thinking of just doing "debootstrap raring /mnt" and doing a fresh install of raring
[00:52] <pringlescan> but I don't know how the old version of virtualbox we have to run will work on it
[00:54] <pringlescan> well the alarm is armed in 6 minutes
[00:54] <pringlescan> that sucks
[00:54] <pringlescan> ppa-purge can't find the packages
[00:54] <FloodBot1> pringlescan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:57] <pringlescan> ppa-purge zfs-native/stable doesn't work
[01:01] <Jordan_U> pringlescan: Saying "doesn't work" is rarely helpful. Please pastebin the complete output.
[01:12] <claudionorflores> alguem pode me ajudar?
[01:13] <Beldar> !en | claudionorflores
[01:13] <xangua> !pt | claudionorflores
[01:13] <claudionorflores> obrigado
[01:17] <darkclown> uit
[01:26] <john_doe_jr1> how would you go about downloading your mono server version?
[01:29] <ResQue> I cant get a GUI when i EFI boot the ubuntu 13.10 live dvd, i can get to tty0 and i copied the whole /var/log dir. Could someone please help me, here is my xorg.0.log file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6522651/
[01:33] <floatingpoint> is it possible to turn a user's password off entirely?
[01:33] <floatingpoint> if so, what happens when someone tries to SSH into a machine with that username?
[01:34] <pfifo> yes, and ssh login fails
[01:34] <hggdh> floatingpoint: probably will fail, unless using PK. But it is easy to test
[01:35] <floatingpoint> ok. how do I disable a password for a user?
[01:37] <lawltoad> Hi, I can start up gnome-session --session=ubuntu manually
[01:38] <adamu> Hello All
[01:40] <Beldar> !details | lawltoad
[01:41] <Beldar> lawltoad, Your first post on  wanting a log made some sense, the second is hard to read, give the channel some workable details.
[01:43] <lawltoad> Sorry, I'm in and out of a half working machine. I was running 12.4 and have done a series of dist-upgrades with a broken gui to 13.10; lightdm shows up on boot, detects 2 screens, but when I try to log in it fails, putting me back in lightdm.
[01:43] <pfifo> floatingpoint: passwd -d
[01:45] <lawltoad> Beldar, I don't suspect a driver issue since running gnome-session directly sort-of works, however when I run lightdm-session "gnome-session --session=ubuntu"   I get a error: 'unsupported number of arguments (2); falling back to default session'
[01:45] <lawltoad> which seems to be thrown by /etc/X11/Xsession.d/20x11-common_process-args
[01:45] <Beldar> lawltoad, run from where?
[01:46] <lawltoad> I ran it from an xterm in X that I got to using xinit -- :1
[01:47] <Beldar> lawltoad, This  for the gnome shell or unity or what, and what release is this?
[01:48] <zacarias> Hi. I'm trying to run a bat script (to root an Android phone) and it's not working: it gives me syntax errors on lines 1 and 2. Here's the script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6522797/   Any help, please?
[01:48] <Beldar> lawltoad, Ah 13.10 now upgraded with broken gui's, I can;t help you there.
[01:49] <Stanley00> zacarias: it looks like a bat file, for DOS, not for ubuntu
[01:49] <adamu> lol
[01:49] <Guest70658> 鲁啊鲁
[01:49] <ZIPY> hi, im having some serious trouble with a hdd.. it shows input/output errors, cant open it with gparted nor fsck, but with testdisk i can see all my data. what can i do now?
[01:49] <lawltoad> Beldar, I'm running unity
[01:50] <lawltoad> is there a way to reset session settings to stock?
[01:50] <renebarbosa> ZIPY, did you already unmounted the drive and forced a fsck?
[01:50] <atomx> How can I unpack a .deb package ?
[01:50] <uki> gdebi
[01:51] <uki> downloade gdebi
[01:51] <atomx> ... and extract the files ?
[01:51] <adamu> ar  x name.deb
[01:51] <atomx> thanks
[01:51] <uki> no u install deb files
[01:51] <ZIPY> its unmounted, i cant mount it anymore , i uses normal fsck /dev/sdX
[01:51] <Stanley00> atomx: use file-roller, but what for?
[01:51] <uki> apt-get install gdebi
[01:51] <ZIPY> *used
[01:51] <atomx> ar worked, thanks :)
[01:51] <adamu> atomx, np
[01:52] <john_doe_jr1> I need to download to mono 2.6.7..does anyone know how I would go about doing that?
[01:52] <ZIPY> renebarbosa: how can i force fsck? you mean with touch /forcefsck?
[01:54] <zacarias> Stanley00: Yes, I know, but shouldn't be executable by Ubuntu?
[01:55] <Stanley00> zacarias: no, it cannot execute that file, but window can do that.
[01:55] <Beldar> lawltoad, I doubt you can do any more damage, upgrading a broken OS is well, not good to start with. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[01:55] <sbimike> when i boot ubuntu server it goes into this graphical install mode prompting me for language with a popup menu. i want the non graphical interface. how do i get that?
[01:55] <sbimike> i mean i want to install ubuntu from this live cd using non-graphical moe
[01:55] <sbimike> mode
[01:56] <Beldar> sbimike, You have a live full desktop version and you want the server?
[01:56] <Beldar> cd/usb
[01:56] <ZIPY> how can i force fsck?
[01:56] <Beldar> ZIPY, fsck from a live cd
[01:57] <ZIPY> why do i need a livecd for that?
[01:57] <Beldar> ZIPY, you have to have the partitoins unmounted
[01:57] <ZIPY> it is unmounted
[01:58] <ZIPY> or do u mean all the others too?
[01:58] <lawltoad> Beldar,  its not too broken
[01:58] <ZIPY> all other drives
[01:58] <Beldar> ZIPY, Then you would not need to force it
[01:58] <haha> i have installed my operating system from harddisk~
[01:58] <adamu> ZIPY, Is this what you mean? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/fsck#fstab_options
[01:59] <Beldar> lawltoad, hehe, if you say so, still your methods are well problematic if I understand you correctly.
[01:59] <ZIPY> adamu: i dont know: <renebarbosa> ZIPY, did you already unmounted the drive and forced a fsck?
[02:00] <Beldar> sbimike, use a net install or a server download.
[02:01] <haha> help~why my xubuntu system have 2 desktop?xfce and xubuntu?
[02:01] <Stanley00> haha: what do you mean by 2 desktops?
[02:03] <haha> i'm sorry..
[02:04] <haha> thank u, Stanley00
[02:05] <haha> Stanley00:
[02:06] <cliff> I think ubuntu broke my machine
[02:06] <Beldar> cliff, really.
[02:06] <cliff> :(
[02:07] <haha> i found xubuntu really waste my system resource
[02:07] <haha> maybe my machine is too old...only 768 ram
[02:07] <adamu> haha, maybe try lubuntu
[02:07] <ZIPY> thats more then enaugh for xubuntu
[02:08] <cliff> So, I just built a machine: asus z87 pro mobo - intel 4770k - 8GB of ram
[02:08] <ZIPY> lubuntu is litte more "light" but its not much difference.. except i like xubuntus look more
[02:08] <haha> but when i use firefox, the usage of CPU high to 100%
[02:09] <BrianH> Sorry if this may be a little off topic, but is anyone familiar with Snort?  I'm trying to find the alert file on the Security Onion distro (ubuntu-based).
[02:09] <Stanley00> haha: that's firefox problem, not xubuntu problem :D
[02:09] <Beldar> !enter | cliff
[02:09] <ZIPY> haha: maybe ur firefox has to many addons
[02:09] <haha> :)
[02:09] <adamu> haha, maybe you could switch to lynx
[02:09] <Stanley00> haha: ... and maybe you should block all flash, it take many resources
[02:10] <Beldar> cliff, Can we get to this in one post without the ":(" and just the facts
[02:10] <lawltoad> Beldar, I'mma try sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm ubuntu-desktop
[02:10] <ZIPY> i remember adblock plus took a lot time to load on my old pc
[02:10] <cliff> sure
[02:10] <lawltoad> brb!
[02:10] <haha> en...i see, there are too many ads.
[02:11] <adamu> is xubuntu the one that comes with KDE?
[02:11] <ZIPY> i need help with my hdd :(
[02:11] <ZIPY> i tried smart selftest
[02:11] <ZIPY> even that failed :(
[02:11] <haha> xfce
[02:11] <bazhang> adamu, xfce4
[02:11] <adamu> bazhang, okay thanks
[02:12] <bazhang> kde4 is kubuntu adamu
[02:12] <ZIPY> xubuntu comes with xfce and lubuntu with lxde
[02:12] <haha> which is light? xfce or lxde?
[02:12] <ZIPY> lxde
[02:12] <haha> o
[02:12] <ZIPY> but as i said, i dont think its much difference
[02:13] <ZIPY> and xfce looks better then lxde
[02:13] <ZIPY> imo
[02:13] <usr13> ZIPY: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6522878/
[02:13] <Beldar> BrianH, neither are really supported here especially Security Onion distro
[02:13] <usr13> ZIPY: Yea, I use xfce too.
[02:14] <BrianH> Beldar: Yeah, I was shooting in the wind.  Asked on some other channels and IRC seems pretty dead tonight.
[02:14] <cliff> New build: asus z87 pro mobo - intel 4770k - 8GB of ram - 3 Asus VN248H monitors - Using integrated graphics - Tried to install the Ubuntu 12.04 on a clean hard drive using a thumb drive that installed the OS on this machine; so I know it works. It started to install like normal, asking my location and language, then it gave me an error with the option to proceed, so I did. I believe the error number was 10.   Wish I remember the
[02:14] <cliff>  number.  Then it went on looking like it was installing but it all of the sudden looked like it was rebooting, and comes back up to a blinking cursor.
[02:14] <Beldar> BrianH, You might try ##linux if there is no channel for that OS.
[02:14] <Guest70658> prices descend.
[02:15] <BrianH> Beldar: Already did.  Thanks though. :)
[02:16] <Beldar> cliff, Do you think it might have actually installed, the blinking cursor is not uncommon on a reboot?
[02:16] <haha> haha: a
[02:16] <cliff> I don't think it installed.
[02:17] <Stanley00> cliff: did you checksum the iso, and content on thumbdrive?
[02:17] <cliff> Not recently.
[02:17] <cliff> I can.
[02:17] <Beldar> cliff, Might have gotten grub in the mbr though, hence the cursor without the OS there, can you boot the live session again?
[02:17] <cliff> Nothing is booting.
[02:17] <cliff> Just a blinking cursor
[02:18] <cliff> I can't get to the bios. It doesn't give me the option
[02:18] <Beldar> cliff, It's not uncommon for the live to not boot, is the bios set to see it first?
[02:18] <kakashiAL> hey guys, is there a way to open tvs files in linux?
[02:18] <Beldar> Beldar, There is a per-session boot menu outside the bios.
[02:18] <usr13> cliff: You might need to test the media
[02:19] <cliff> I removed the thumb drive, it still goes straight to the cursor
[02:19] <cliff> how do I check the media?
[02:19] <Stanley00> kakashiAL: can you run "file your_file.tvs" and paste the output here?
[02:20] <Stanley00> cliff: there's option to check when you boot from thumbdrive.
[02:20] <cliff> ok. Going to check on this machine.
[02:20] <kakashiAL> Stanley00: OnlineMeeting-4.12.13-Listen+MP3.tvs: data
[02:21] <renebarbosa> ZIPY, sorry for the delay . You can force fsck by running fsck -y /dev/sdX
[02:21] <Beldar> cliff, That is a uefi motheerboard
[02:21] <renebarbosa> remember that /dev/sdX needs to be unmounted
[02:21] <renebarbosa> if it's mounted you will probably break all of your files
[02:23] <Stanley00> kakashiAL: hmm, maybe your file is corrupt, the file command cannot recognize the format.
[02:23] <kakashiAL> Stanley00: tvs is a teamviewer file
[02:23] <kakashiAL> Stanley00: I mean it is a recorded season
[02:24] <Stanley00> kakashiAL: file command see it as data, so maybe that file is corrupt, or the file cannot recognize that format.
[02:25] <Stanley00> kakashiAL: you can use teamview to view that http://www.ehow.com/how_6940963_play-teamviewer-tvs-file.html
[02:25] <sunbird> darnit, hwilde isn't here anymore.
[02:25] <wookienz_> hiya, i have a raid 5 set from another linux based device, NAS, i have mounted it in my computer. cat/proc/mdstat sees it as /dev/sd[abcg] but mounting it i get "cant read superblock" any sugegstions?
[02:26] <sunbird> if anyone knows bluetooth... i am trying to get back to a working state. it used to work, but doesn't anymore, won't start. after running /etc/init.d/bluetooth start on 13.10 i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/6522913/
[02:29] <ZIPY> usr13: renebarbosa: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6522897/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6522899/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6522921/
[02:30] <ZIPY> fsck gives me an error (3rd link)
[02:30] <cliff> Hi everyone, I'm back.
[02:30] <adamu> cliff, welcome back
[02:30] <cliff> Thanks!
[02:30] <renebarbosa> ZIPY, hmm
[02:31] <cliff> I was able to get into the usb drive and run ubuntu from the thumbdrive
[02:31] <renebarbosa> too many offline uncorrectable sectors and pending sectors
[02:31] <renebarbosa> looks like that hdd is really bad
[02:31] <cliff> Also, I was able to get into the bios in the newly built machine.
[02:31] <Stanley00> !enter | cliff
[02:32] <ZIPY> renebarbosa: i still can see my data with testdisk
[02:32] <cliff> Sorry! I'm wondering if I have the wrong build. Does it matter weather or not I have 64 bit architecture?  I thought they should still install either way, just run slower.
[02:33] <ZIPY> i could try to recover.. but i dont have so much space -.-
[02:33] <Stanley00> cliff: did you run checksum on the media? and what's the result?
[02:34] <cliff> I did not because I did not know how.
[02:34] <cliff> Can you give me some guidance?
[02:34] <articsun> hm
[02:34] <articsun> cliff:  sure
[02:34] <articsun> it depends on the ram
[02:34] <articsun> do you have 4+ gb?
[02:34] <articsun> then go with 64
[02:35] <cliff> I have 8gb of ram.
[02:35] <cliff> Does that mean I will need to create another thumbdrive image?
[02:35] <articsun> ok
[02:35] <articsun> no cliffl
[02:35] <articsun> use 64 bit
[02:35] <articsun> :)
[02:35] <Stanley00> cliff: press enter when you first see a purple screen when bootting,
[02:35] <FloodBot1> articsun: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:36] <bow_vernon> hi people, is there a channel for codeblocks user?
[02:36] <renebarbosa> ZIPY, in this case i would suggest to backup your files on another drive. That hdd is really not good and can fail soon
[02:36] <Stanley00> !alis | bow_vernon
[02:36] <cliff> articsun: thanks!  Stanley00, I'm going to try again.
[02:37] <sbimike> grr i downloaded ubuntu 12.04.3 alternate cd hoping for text based installer but its showing graphical :O
[02:37] <somsip> !minimal | sbimike
[02:38] <ZIPY> renebarbosa: its a 1tb hdd, i dont have so much space left on any device :(
[02:39] <adamu> sbimike, is this the graphical installer you speak of? http://www.xiiilegio.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Ubuntu-Server-Installer-7-1024x575.jpg
[02:39] <ZIPY> need 1tb ubuntuone -.-
[02:39] <sbimike> somsip thx but i want to use this for mass server installation. i need text installer and minimal packages on disk :/
[02:40] <adamu> sbimike, maybe this? https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html
[02:40] <adamu> sbimike, maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/amd64/automatic-install.html might be better
[02:40] <somsip> sbimike: looks like you'll be customizing then.Not sure if they can do that though. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[02:41] <somsip> sbimike: this could be helpful, though you probably have enough links now :) http://www.ubuntu-mini-remix.org/
[02:42] <renebarbosa> ZIPY, yeah, that's a problem. :P
[02:42] <sbimike> adamu: no its this one http://screencast.com/t/k2bRFbqSzOe8
[02:42] <adamu> sbimike, I do believe that is the text based install :/
[02:42] <ZIPY> hmm maybe at the university they have so much space left for me
[02:42] <sbimike> it breaks in xen hypervisor. citrix says "The main installation CD uses graphical mode, which won’t install as well in HVM mode due to the use of esoteric 16-bit mode instructions for the graphics operations. The 16-bit emulation mechanisms vary between processors (with better support on AMD chips, and a software instruction emulator required on Intel VT chips). However, the Ubuntu alternate CD uses a text-based installer which wor
[02:42] <odium> what do I label partitions in a fake raid?
[02:43] <odium> raid auto detect?
[02:43] <adamu> sbimike, you might be able to look into automatic installation
[02:44] <sbimike> adamu: the text-based installer i want looks like this http://screencast.com/t/borTQE9k
[02:44] <bazhang> !alternate | sbimike
[02:44] <adamu> sbimike, oh
[02:44] <bazhang> sbimike, so use the minimal instead
[02:44] <sbimike> bazhang just tried it but it doesn't boot
[02:45] <bazhang> sbimike, then md5 it, and re"burn"
[02:45] <cliff> I'm back. I ran the file consistency check and found 1 file with errors. What do?
[02:45] <adamu> cliff, welcome back
[02:45] <cliff> THanks!
[02:45] <sbimike> oh nvm it does boot my bad
[02:45] <adamu> sbimike, lol..
[02:45] <sbimike> but i want it to install the packages off the disc
[02:46] <bazhang> then get the server sbimike
[02:46] <adamu> sbimike, if its mass install you could setup a local ftp mirror?
[02:46] <sbimike> yes i want mass install
[02:46] <sbimike> looks like the micro hangs up on a graphical screen too
[02:47] <sbimike> http://screencast.com/t/mE1pG4V9H
[02:47] <sbimike> sorry the "mini". it looks like its generic. not server or desktop.
[02:47] <paco> Hello guys, I know that wine icons are in ~/.local/share/icons, and if I remove that folder, they disappear from thunar. So the question is: where are the configuration mime files that point to ~/.local/share/icons, if they aren't in ~/.local/share/mime and ~/.local/share/applications (I removed the file in those folders) ????
[02:48] <sbimike> trying ubuntu mini remix
[02:49] <adamu> goodbye
[02:51] <mauian> hi
[02:51] <mauian> i need some help
[02:51] <mauian> is there a way to download a vid from http://www.lindenstrasse.de/Multimedia/Videos/player.jsp?folge=1448&q=L
[02:51] <mauian> ?
[02:51] <mauian> its flash
[02:51] <FloodBot1> mauian: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:51] <mauian> sorry
[02:52] <mauian> the normal firefox add ons dont work for downloading this flash
[02:52] <sbimike> is there some boot flag i can pass to the installer to make it go into the text based one i want (the one with no colors)
[02:54] <Xmetalfanx> well (I am a ff fan and always found Chromium slow) ... disabled what equals the "DNS Pretching" option and now its just as fast as other browsers
[02:58] <defcon511> hi
[02:58] <defcon511> got a problem over here, someones on?
[02:59] <defcon511> is there any way to group the application icons in the taskbar?
[02:59] <defcon511> Firefox -> -> -> Folder -> -> ->
[02:59] <defcon511> cause when ive got many applications open there is a bit of chaos in the taskbar, im on the latest xubuntu release
[03:06] <bow_vernon> hi all, I have been wondering, when you install a program, where does the program's data files go? I know I can find the binary at /usr/bin, but the accompanying data files aren't there!
[03:06] <Random832> bow_vernon: what kind of data files
[03:06] <Random832> bow_vernon: often /usr/share
[03:07] <Random832> bow_vernon: or your home directory for user-specific data
[03:07] <bow_vernon> like the data that comes with the program, settings, etc
[03:07] <adminsitrator_> hi
[03:07] <Random832> like settings
[03:07] <adminsitrator_> is there any way to group the application icons in the taskbar (xubuntu latest release)
[03:07] <adminsitrator_> ?
[03:07] <Random832> bow_vernon: you can do dpkg -L [package name] to get a list of all files that install with a program
[03:07] <Mongo44> Anyone familiar with this command:  echo 30 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[03:08] <adminsitrator_> also cant change my display brightness, its always at max
[03:08] <bow_vernon> it's in /usr/share wow!
[03:08] <Random832> Mongo44: no, why
[03:08] <Beldar> adminsitrator_, being on the channel with 2 nicks is not appreciated
[03:08] <Random832> bow_vernon: your user specific settings will be created in the home dir when you run the program
[03:09] <jay-o> hi all, apt-get issue occurred.please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/6523020/
[03:09] <Mongo44> It seems to work only for a couple minutes then the screen brightens.
[03:09] <Beldar> adminsitrator_, sign one off
[03:09] <adminsitrator_> want to group programs in the taskbar, any solution?
[03:09] <bow_vernon> well then, suppose I make a game.  and it comes with 3d models, sounds, etc. I program the game to read resources from ./ folder. how can it read it if the resources are put in a separate place?
[03:10] <Beldar> !ops | adminsitrator_ defcon511 same user
[03:10] <bow_vernon> from the programmer's perspective, it's quite annoying
[03:10] <cliff> After running the file consistency check, I found that 1 file had errors in it. Would that be a cause for the installation failing?
[03:11] <Beldar> cliff, On?
[03:11] <Beldar> cliff, The ISO yes
[03:11] <Beldar> possibly anyway
[03:12] <cliff> Yes, the iso that I was using to install the OS on a newly built PC
[03:13] <Beldar> Beldar, good possibility, that matherboard is also uefi.
[03:13] <cliff> I'm downloading the 13.10 at the moment and am going to get try to reinstall. It's weird though I don't understand why it doesn't give me the option to boot from the live disk on the machine.
[03:13] <cliff> Is uefi a problem with ubuntu?
[03:14] <fmontano> hello
[03:14] <Beldar> cliff, Might need to use the per-session boot menu, grub gets put in the mbr and if the OS is broken you can get what you have, you can't get to the bios it is probably reading the HD first.
[03:15] <cliff> Sorry, I guess you missed it. I updated that I am now able to get to the BIOS
[03:16] <Beldar> cliff, I would look around on the uefi issue, in general we see windows with uefi and gpt partitions, I'm not sure on a custom build.
[03:16] <Beldar> cliff, try to use nicks though when talking to another you can tab complete them.
[03:16] <cliff> ok.
[03:17] <xmetal> (sorry if someone did this already)
[03:17] <cliff> Beldar, got it
[03:17] <xmetal> oops
[03:17] <xmetal> !uefi
[03:18] <xmetal> there we go
[03:18] <xmetal> i forgot the letters :P silly me
[03:18] <Beldar> cliff, We do still see a need for the per-seesion boot menu outside the bios even if the bios is set to boot the install media first.
[03:18] <Beldar> at times
[03:21] <Eli-5dce> Artic
[03:21] <Eli-5dce> !hi
[03:21] <Eli-5dce> XD dored
[03:21] <Eli-5dce> Bored
[03:22] <Beldar> cliff, check that uefi bot info, it should have been directed at you.
[03:25] <Eli-5dce> !Freenode kaome s
[03:26] <Eli-5dce> whoops
[03:27] <Mississauga> which app best for logging onto freenode? not web browser
[03:27] <Stanley00> !best | Mississauga
[03:27] <jouffluMini> can
[03:27] <xmetal> i am a fan of hexchat (windows) or xchat in linux
[03:28] <Stanley00> Mississauga: you can use xchat, or pidgin, iirc, or anything else
[03:28] <xmetal> (hexchat is just an xchat "clone" btw)
[03:28] <jouffluMini> cannot get twitch.tv working on mozilla firefox eventhough I have Flash installed....any guesses ??
[03:28] <Mississauga> ok
[03:28] <xmetal> pidgin works .. .though i dont use it for irc, it does connect to irc fine
[03:28] <xmetal> i am fan of that program (pidgin)
[03:30] <Beldar> jouffluMini, you install the flash plugin or the restricted-extras?
[03:31] <Beldar> works here
[03:33] <hikenboot> hello I have a text file with a 40,000 words in the format "someword",<space><space><space><space,"nextword"...   I am trying to copy it into a C language .c extention file in a certain place. Problem is I cant seem to get gedit to highlight and copy the 40,000 words. It wont load the whole file. Is there another linux gui text editor I can use for this?
[03:33] <jay-o> I tried manual installation, but it failed(please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/6523079/ )
[03:34] <Flannel> hikenboot: You realise that once you do that, you won't be able to open the .c file (in a text editor) to make any additional edits.
[03:34] <Beldar> jay-o, what does this command show. lsb_release -a
[03:34] <Stanley00> hikenboot: why do you need to include that file, why don't read the textfile after compile and run?
[03:35] <ElectricPrism> WTB a graphics card, is AMD still trash?
[03:35] <ElectricPrism> what will work better in ubuntu
[03:35] <jay-o> Thank you, Beldar. please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/6523020/
[03:36] <sbimike> what type of install is this? text-based, black&white?  http://screencast.com/t/borTQE9k
[03:36] <sbimike> how can i get it to happen every time?
[03:36] <Beldar> jay-o, This a server?
[03:36] <hikenboot> I am trying to insert a larger table of words into a .c file, and I am not a c coder. Its just one little piece I need to change
[03:36] <jay-o> Beldar: this is a desctop.
[03:37] <Beldar> jay-o, running in root?
[03:37] <Flannel> hikenboot: Split the file up to [before table] and [after table] then just cat the three files together into another file, you can use `less` to view and verify it once its done.
[03:37] <Steve_ballmer> time to get to work
[03:37] <Princess> hi
[03:37] <hikenboot> ah right thanks Flannel
[03:38] <somsip> hikenboot: gvim will highlight in a block and export that block to another file
[03:38] <Princess> i am new to ubuntu and i need some help, can anyone help me?
[03:38] <somsip> !details | Princess
[03:38] <jay-o> Beldar: I did do "make command" as root.
[03:38] <Steve_ballmer> install microsoft software. It's shared source!
[03:39] <Beldar> jay-o, rooted terminal?
[03:39] <hikenboot> thanks simsip I will look into it
[03:39] <articsun> heh
[03:39] <articsun> steve bazhang
[03:39] <articsun> erm
[03:39] <articsun> Steve_ballmer:
[03:39] <FloodBot1> articsun: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:39] <articsun> :P
[03:39] <Steve_ballmer> i am steve!
[03:39] <articsun> eh
[03:40] <jay-o> Beldar, no i used remote terminal.
[03:40]  * xmetal sighs at MS fans coming to Linux channels and saying linux "stinks" and Linux "fans" going to MS channels and saying "windows stinks"  (seems like a waste of time to me)
[03:42] <MarGul> This might be a php question but Im trying it. I have all my functions gettings the host name and the password from a settings.php and use it as global variables (mysql_connect($host, $user, $pass)) . But obv if someone gets hold of my settings.php im screwed. Can I implement this better? Maybe encrypt it or there is a better way to do this?
[03:42] <shia_Le_Buntu> having trouble with jockey-gtk, it is incredibly slow.  What are alternative ways to installing drivers?
[03:43] <somsip> MarGul: it's a PHP question. And you need to protect your server well to avoid this, and have your site setup correctly
[03:44] <Crell> Hi all. I recently upgraded my laptop to 13.10 and I'm now having an issue with Apache vhost files.  They're still in place, and still in the sites-enabled folder, but a2ensite and a2dissite tell me they don't exist.
[03:44] <somsip> !info apache2
[03:44] <shia_Le_Buntu> also having problems as of late with unity overall, the alt-tab-switcher is very slow on startup and the launcher button is also very slow
[03:44] <somsip> Crell: ISTR 2.4 has a different approach to 2.2 for vhosts
[03:44] <Crell> ... Oh.
[03:45] <Crell> The upgrade process made no mention of that.
[03:45] <Crell> Are there migration docs?
[03:45] <somsip> Crell: I could be wrong, but maybe worth looking into
[03:45] <somsip> Crell: almost certainly on the apache main site
[03:45] <Crell> #httpd sent me here, as a2ensite, sites-enabled, etc. are Debian/Ubuntu things specifically.
[03:46] <somsip> Crell: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/upgrading.html
[03:46] <Crell> Thanks.
[03:46] <somsip> Crell: and more specifically http://lyemium.com/content/virtual-host-issues-when-upgrading-apache-22-24
[03:46] <jay-o> Beldar, does remote terminal sound wrong?
[03:47] <Crell> Ahso!
[03:47] <Steve_ballmer> DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS
[03:47] <hikenboot> Flannel, your a genius, I  think that worked
[03:48] <Beldar> jay-o, Wha you showed was unusual, just curious what was going in, I would give more details to the channel is all
[03:48] <Crell> somsip: Bingo!  That was it, thanks!
[03:48] <somsip> Crell: np
[03:48] <john234> hello
[03:50] <sam113101> how do I open an application with gnome-terminal? I can't find the manual for it
[03:50] <Stanley00> sam113101: just type the app's name
[03:50] <Stanley00> sam113101: but why do you need that?
[03:50] <Sian> guys, I accidently deleted a lot of files from my sd card and need a way to recover, doing some google found out about photorec, but as the name implies it only works with photo and I need to recover some documents and videos
[03:50] <Steve_ballmer> DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS
[03:51] <Beldar> Sian, photorec is in testdisk
[03:51] <sam113101> "gnome-terminal nano" doesn't open gnome-terminal with nano inside it
[03:51] <xmetal> !info testdisk
[03:51] <sam113101> because I want to bind it to a shortcut
[03:51] <Sian> Beldar, I know, I don't want to use photorec, I need an alternative that recovers more than photos
[03:52] <Stanley00> sam113101: ah, now I know, you can try "gnome-terminal -c nano"
[03:52] <somsip> sam113101: you possibly need to pass as a named parameter. In my shell it is 'urxvt -e nano' but YMMV for gnome-terminal
[03:52] <xmetal> hmm i have no clue if that would work on a sd card (I never had to try it)
[03:52] <sam113101> unknown option -c
[03:52] <Beldar> Sian, That is test disks general use partitions, files...etc
[03:52] <Stanley00> sam113101: wait a min, long time no use gnome-terminal :(
[03:53] <sam113101> it doesn't seem to have a manual, "man gnome-terminal" doesn't work
[03:53] <shia_Le_Buntu> having issue at startup with broadcom wireless driver
[03:53] <Stanley00> sam113101: gnome-terminal -e nano
[03:54] <Stanley00> sam113101: you should try gnome-terminal --help first :D
[03:54] <sam113101> Stanley00: thanks <3
[03:54] <Beldar> shia_Le_Buntu, Have you seen the broadcom wiki?
[03:54] <shia_Le_Buntu> shows a message everytime, then blinks out.  everything works fine once i'm in, but sometimes it crashes
[03:54] <shia_Le_Buntu> Beldar, i've tried a couple of things i found on google, there is so little documentation
[03:55] <Beldar> !broadcom | shia_Le_Buntu might help
[03:58] <shia_Le_Buntu> Beldar, thanks
[03:58] <Princess> is anyone available to help me
[03:59] <Stanley00> !ask | Princess
[03:59] <Princess> i want to download and install an irc progrom on ubuntu. preferably one with an interface
[03:59] <Stanley00> Princess: you can install xchat from ubuntu software center
[04:00] <articsun> Princess:  XChat
[04:00] <wgerste> hi! how do i remove the ubuntu one icon from showing up in the top menu bar after every restart?
[04:01] <Princess> thank you, it is installing now
[04:02] <Beldar> wgerste, you can remove ubuntu one I believe from the OS.
[04:03] <wgerste> Beldar, how do i do that?
[04:03] <Beldar> wgerste, look for it in the software center and remove it.
[04:05] <wgerste> Beldar, i removed it but there's still a cloud icon in the top bar where the clock is
[04:05] <Beldar> wgerste, If ou just removed it logout then back in maybe or reboot.
[04:05] <Beldar> you*
[04:06] <wgerste> Beldar, brb
[04:07] <kaleki> whois gaughan
[04:07] <kaleki> Whoops, my bad
[04:08] <wgerste> Beldar, logged out and in but the icon is still there
[04:08] <Beldar> wgerste, It has dependencies so not really sure beyond this.
[04:09] <wgerste> Beldar, ok thx anyway
[04:09] <Princess> on xchat how do i add a server, for example this one
[04:09] <Princess> do i just click add next to networks?
[04:09] <tvin> Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250, does this work good with ubuntu?
[04:11] <jouffluMini> installled restricted sources with flash but twitch still wont work
[04:12] <xangua> jouffluMini: did you restart your browser?
[04:14] <Shadow73> hey everyone?
[04:14] <lei> hi
[04:14] <kaleki> Shadow73 Howdy
[04:14] <Shadow73> anyone know where i can get some deepweb info?
[04:15] <Beldar> Shadow73, not a ubuntu issue.
[04:16] <kaleki> Jordan_U So, Amazon instant video works with Chromium?
[04:22] <sdouble> hey guys, is there a way to automatically switch to the home directory when using su <user>?
[04:22] <kaleki> whois Shadow73
[04:24] <Beldar> sdouble, why are you using su user
[04:24] <sbn1986> hai their
[04:25] <sbn1986> anybody here to help on ubuntu ?
[04:25] <sdouble> when I ssh in as root, I want to switch to a different user instead of logging out and logging back in as that user
[04:25] <sdouble> so I end up su <user> then cd ~
[04:26] <sbn1986> hello
[04:26] <sbn1986> anybody here ?
[04:26] <Beldar> sbn1986, Help is when you post the issue to the channel.
[04:27] <sbn1986> ok.. sorry about tha
[04:28] <Beldar> sdouble, Not sure that is the best way I would check if that is correct with ubuntu's framework.
[04:28] <sbn1986> I am a newbie in ubuntu ..I downloaded ubintu.. extracted the iso image to hard and tried to install by clicking on wubi. its again asking for downloading about 900mbs...
[04:28] <sbn1986> what is the problem ?
[04:29] <Beldar> sbn1986, wubi does not install from the iso, and is not recommended in general.
[04:29] <wheatthin> wubi comes with it's own installation medium prewritten to fetch
[04:29] <sbn1986> ok..
[04:29] <Stanley00> sbn1986: that wubi need an iso file, not extracted files, so you need copy iso to the wubi's dir
[04:30] <sbn1986> ok.. let me try
[04:30] <Beldar> sbn1986, there is virtually no support for wubi just be aware of that.
[04:30] <sbn1986> But its in the iso image... is their any alternative ways ?
[04:30] <Beldar> you mess up and you will be by yourself
[04:31] <sdouble> Beldar: it's not a huge deal, just a minor annoyance.  I'd log in as root to edit some nginx configs then sicne I'm logged in, I want to do some stuff as a user account.  just an extra step to cd ~ after switching, figured there'd be a way to automatically switch to that user's home dir
[04:32] <sbn1986> Beldar. what is the safest way of installing ? burn that iso image and boot from DVD ?
[04:32] <Beldar> sdouble, I believe ubuntu is structured in a manner that using su can break it in some circumstances is all, not sure otherwise as far as your goals.
[04:32] <tvin> Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250, does this work good with ubuntu? Can anyone point me to a good place to ask if no one knows?
[04:33] <Beldar> su, sudo and root have different privloages
[04:33] <JouffluMini> twitch.tv works now but its choppy :(
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> tvin: thats a tv card?
[04:33] <JouffluMini> i had to restart the computer ...ewww felt like windows 98
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> !tv | tvin
[04:34] <Sian> guys, I'm scared. I was managing my sd card's files through mtp whn I changed the filename of one of its folders, some minutes after I tried to access it but it wouldn't let me, so I tried to look for it in my phone(that's where the micro sd card is)and the folder isn't there
[04:35] <sbn1986> Beldar. what is the safest way of installing ? burn that iso image and boot from DVD ?
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> !usb | sbn1986
[04:35] <kaleki> Sian Did you unmount the card before physically removing it?
[04:35] <Sian> I installed testdisk with the official repo, ran it to  see the deleted files and the folder wasn't there. The foler simply disappeared from existance, what can I do?
[04:36] <sbn1986> thanks
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> Sian: try ctrl h for hidden trash folders maybe?
[04:36] <Sian> kaleki, there was no need to unmount  to see it in my phone, it is visible by both divices at the same time
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> Sian: sudo photorec from terminal, and scan your sd card completly
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> Sian: if data was accidentaly removed, photorec is your best bet to recover
[04:37] <Beldar> sbn1986, a dvd or usb and booted yes for installing in a unallocated area, being aware of types of partitions and limitations on how many on a single HD.
[04:37] <KickStarRabbit> so i sent a request to the ubunto irc council
[04:37] <tvin> !UbuntuTV
[04:37] <KickStarRabbit> to get affiliated with ubunto on my cloak
[04:37] <Sian> lotuspsychje, already used testdisk, photorec is a tool from testdisk that works only with photos
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> Sian: untrue, photorec recovers many filetypes...
[04:38] <KickStarRabbit> is this the wrong strategy
[04:38] <Beldar> !ot | KickStarRabbit
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> !cloak | KickStarRabbit
[04:38] <Beldar> they have a cloak
[04:38] <KickStarRabbit> i have a registered nick with a cloak already
[04:39] <ctmjr> tvin: yes your tv card is supported you need to install the firmware for it http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-2250
[04:39] <KickStarRabbit> ok cool thx
[04:39] <Beldar> KickStarRabbit, this is support not ubuntu politics.
[04:39] <xmetal> try #help i think it is
[04:39] <Sian> lotuspsychje, that's not the point, photorec is part of testdisk, and testdisk didn't find the folder
[04:39] <kaleki> Not exactly Ubuntu, but does anyone have a preferred Python IDE>
[04:39] <kaleki> ?
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> Sian: testdisk a package to 'test' your disk, not recover
[04:40] <xmetal> ubuntu clock or freenode clock?
[04:40] <tvin> ctmjr: The card is supported and all it's functions too? Including the remote, recording, etc?
[04:40] <xmetal> er
[04:40] <xmetal> cloak
[04:40] <xmetal> lol woops
[04:40] <kaleki> I'm trying Eclipse + PyDev and finding it a big cumbersome
[04:40] <Sian> lotuspsychje, testdisk can, in fact, recover files http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk:_undelete_file_for_FAT
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> Sian: i sugest you scan the whole sd with photorec..if it doesnt find with photorec your data is gone mate
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[04:41] <xmetal> there may be a sd recovery tool for a different Company's OS though if i mention that company in here, i may get run out of the channel
[04:41] <xmetal> :P
[04:42] <sdouble> kaleki: have you used eclipse before?
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> xmetal: i recovered many data with photorec, best tool out there
[04:42] <symptom> WAIT UBUNTU ISNT EVEN PRISM-FREE?
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> !caps | symptom
[04:42] <KickStarRabbit> hmm #ubuntu-irc is quit
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> symptom: this is an ubuntu support channel mate, dont advertise here
[04:43] <kaleki> sdouble Yes sir! I'm on it with PyDev now. I'm just wondering if other people have another preference with similar features
[04:43] <symptom> lotuspsychj: THIS IS A LINUX DISTRO, DONT ADVERTISE THERE
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> !ops | symptom
[04:44] <sdouble> I use eclipse for everything and thought PyDev was pretty nice.  I usually just end up using sublime, but I liked PyDev
[04:44] <symptom> i mean even in windows there isnt this commercial bloat shit
[04:44] <mi2deep> What group should I go to to ask about multi-monitor Wallpaper using Gnome3 (Unity's not my thing)?
[04:45] <kaleki> sdouble I think it's pretty great, and admittedly I'm still getting used to it. Why did you start using Sublime?
[04:45] <sdouble> i guess you could try geany, I've never used it myself though
[04:45] <symptom> if canoical needs this advertise this much, ubuntu should be delivered with primeair, for free.
[04:46] <tvin> ctmjr: The card is supported and all it's functions too? Including the remote, recording, etc?
[04:46] <somsip> kaleki: pycharm is highly recommended and works for me when I need to Python
[04:46] <kaleki> somsip Thanks! I'll give that a shot
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[04:47] <threex5> Someone please help! After a recent update, including a kernel upgrade, I can't boot past the purple screen. Even old kernels don't work. Even adding nomodeset still gets me stuck on the purple screen. What should I do? I'm running 12.04.3 on an MSI Slidebook.
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> !ops | symptom
[04:48] <ctmjr> tvin: read the link i gave you, recording depends on what application you use, and the remote you can use lirc
[04:48] <symptom> !ops lotuspsychj
 WANT UBUNTU WITHOUT FUCKING TRACKING? FIXUBUNTU.C0M <<<**||||**>>>
[04:49] <xmetal> hmm ops must be power-napping atm
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[04:49] <xmetal> thank you, Flannel
[04:49] <mi2deep> When I dock my laptop, I have two 1200x1600 monitors connected and would like to have different wallpapers cycled on both monitors...  I've tried Variety and Wallch... but both have their idiosyncrasies and both don't allow me to have different images on different monitors... what is your suggestion Ubuntu community?
[04:50] <tvin> ctmjr: You mean http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-2250? I don't see anything on that page about what has been made to work and what hasn't yet.  What is lirc?
[04:51] <tvin> BTW, I am just interested in buying that card, but I am open to buying something else instead, if someone knows of a better, more linux friendly card
[04:52] <tvin> I don't find many options with this kind of product though
[04:52] <xangua> mi2deep: I remember compiz had a plugin for that, don't know if still have it
[04:52] <mi2deep> I use Gnome3 instead of Unity though... because, with extensions, it works better than Unity
[04:53] <mi2deep> Should I try Compiz with Gnome3?
[04:53] <kaleki> mi2deep Have to back you on that. I've really come to appreciate Gnome3
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> xangua: maybe in compiz-plugins-extra ?
[04:53] <mi2deep> Hm
[04:53] <edenist> definitely with you mi2deep.....
[04:54] <edenist> once I got used to the workflow of gnome3, I can't go back
[04:54] <mi2deep> With extensions, Gnome3 works for me
[04:54] <edenist> as for wallpapers on multiple monitors
[04:54] <mi2deep> I just cant find a really good way to manage wallpaper
[04:54] <edenist> it's a bit hacky, but you could always combine two wallpapers together into one image
[04:54] <mi2deep> Maybe I need to "rool my own?"
[04:54] <edenist> and wrap the single image over two screens
[04:54] <mi2deep> Ya that's too hackish
[04:54] <edenist> ;-)
[04:55] <mi2deep> And... I'd have to find a good way to make Gnome3 use a single image across dual monitors... I think it is possible...
[04:56] <mi2deep> But...
[04:56] <edenist> what if you wrote a python script [maybe bash], to randomly select two images from a folder, combine them into one image, then apply then refresh the wallpaper
[04:56] <threex5> no one can help me with my purple screen?
[04:56] <mi2deep> You'd think someone other than me has thought of this...
[04:56] <mi2deep> Ya
[04:56] <mi2deep> But what about the people with four screens
[04:56] <mi2deep> ?
[04:56] <mi2deep> Those poor people...
[04:57] <mi2deep> anyway
[04:57] <mi2deep> Thought I'd ask
[04:57] <edenist> threex5..... how far into boot do you get?
[04:57] <mi2deep> ANybody know where I could look for documentation on rolling my own?
[04:58] <mi2deep> (I already looked at bash/cron scripts on stackexchange)
[04:58] <edenist> threex5: when booting up, are you able to hold shift to go into grub?
[04:59] <tvin> ctmjr: You mean http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-2250? I don't see anything on that page about what has been made to work and what hasn't yet. What is lirc?
[05:00] <threex5> edenist, I get to grub, then make my selection, and then it's on to the purple screen and that's it
[05:01] <edenist> are you able to select a different kernel? one of the older ones?
[05:01] <edenist> or is there only one choice?
[05:01] <threex5> edenist, there are other choices but they all go to the purple screen
[05:02] <threex5> although, when you said to hold down shift, I booted, held shift the whole time, it skipped grub entirely and now I have my login screen again
[05:02] <threex5> so now I am able to boot.
[05:02] <edenist> hmmm.... ok.... ha
[05:02] <threex5> odd
[05:03] <edenist> well, perhaps take the chance to look at your log files now to see if you can see any errors thrown up
[05:03] <edenist> in case it happens again
[05:03] <threex5> yeah ok
[05:03] <threex5> where should I start? what log files, edenist?
[05:04] <edenist> logs are stored in /var/log/
[05:04] <edenist> the ones to look in are /var/log/boot.log
[05:04] <edenist> also /var/log/dmesg.log
[05:05] <ctmjr> tvin: you said you do not own the card yet how can i help you set it up? and i would by one from this list http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Digital_Tuner_Cards  and lirc is used to control your remote  http://www.lirc.org/
[05:05] <threex5> I have dmesg but not dmesg.log, edenist
[05:05] <edenist> sorry, just dmesg
[05:06] <edenist> also /var/log/syslog can be handy too. But generally boot errors will present themselves in the first two I listed
[05:06] <gotjuice> hey guys, i've encountered a bizarre trouble which totally freezes the system, i made an attempt to trace it at least to make a guess looking at dmesg, kern.log and syslog, but nothing seemed strange, so knowing how to reproduce it i just `tail -f`ed those log files
[05:06] <gotjuice> and there is nothing strange so far
[05:06] <gotjuice> any assist or a hint would be appreciated
[05:07] <tvin> ctmjr: I don't need help setting it up, I need help deciding if I should buy it, if all its features won't work under ubuntu I might not want to.
[05:07] <gotjuice> only hard reset helps*
[05:07] <tvin> ctmjr: So all its features should work under regular ubuntu if set up right?
[05:07] <edenist> gotjuice: is there any system behaviour you can see which triggers the crash? or is it "Random"?
[05:07] <threex5> well, edenist, nothing jumps out at me as an error
[05:08] <threex5> I don't really know what I'm looking at but I don't see any lines that look like errors in those logs
[05:09] <gotjuice> edenist, not quite random, but it happens when i watch a movie via nautilus from smb:// share on mate from their repo on 13.04 with intel integrated graphics
[05:09] <gotjuice> edenist, vlc, smplayer
[05:09] <threex5> oh, you know what is different, edenist? now my wireless is disables
[05:09] <threex5> disabled
[05:09] <threex5> nevermind edenist. I don't think this was related
[05:10] <tvin> ctmjr: This site http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Digital_Tuner_Cards lists that card as "No" Under IR, and IR  is the remote fuction, right? So is it saying the remote function won't work under ubuntu?
[05:10] <Guest61515> Why is ubuntu so slow on a virtual machine?
[05:10] <tvin> ctmjr: And I don't want to run it under mythtv, but plain ubuntu
[05:10] <edenist> three5x: no worries ;-) well, if you can't find anything, any the system boots now. thats good. Keep those locations in mind though, if you ever have an issue. Hold shift, go to advanced and boot to recovery mode, then look in those files
[05:11] <edenist> gotjuice: check your Xorg.0.log file
[05:11] <edenist> sounds like it could be X crashing
[05:11] <wad> I just got my new laptop, yay! Now to install Ubuntu on it, as usual. But I have a question: I want to do a dual-boot with Windows 8, and this laptop has 2 drives, C is a 1TB, and D is a 25GB SSD. How will this work?
[05:11] <ctmjr> tvin: ok
[05:12] <gotjuice> edenist, may it happen that it doesn't have enough time to write the even log before the crash, is it possible at all?
[05:12] <edenist> wad: I assume you have windows installed on the 256GB ssd?
[05:12] <gotjuice> event*
[05:12] <wad> 25GB, not 256.
[05:12] <wad> I'm not sure how it's set up right now. Just took it out of the box, booted it to Win8.
[05:12] <wad> (Wow, win8 is a pig.)
[05:13] <Beldar> wad, make the recovery cd/usb for W8, then image/clone it before you install ubuntu
[05:13] <edenist> wad: if win is on that 25GB [thats small!] drive, there probably wont be enough space to have ubuntu too. you can install ubuntu on the other drive, but put the grub bootloader on the drive windows is on, so it will prompt you at bootup which OS to boot
[05:14] <Guest61515> ubuntu is the preferred OS for proud gay men
[05:14] <edenist> gotjuice: yes, that is very possible. especially if it's a hardware fault
[05:14] <threex5>  yeah wad, I think you need 16 to 20 gb just to run windows 8
[05:14] <wad> Okay, thanks for the advice. I think the 25GB SSD is used for caching somehow.
[05:14] <wad> I'll have to read up on this.
[05:14] <threex5> although there's a program called winreducer that's supposed to help slim that down
[05:14] <edenist> it very much sounds like a cache drive
[05:15] <threex5> it didn't work for me, though. I tried to created a slimmed-down windows 8 boot disk yesterday and it didn't work
[05:15] <gotjuice> edenist, on a booted system the tails from those logs during the crash hour =) http://pastebin.com/C5mxuGwz and no, it's double-boot system, windows 7 doesn't have such issue currently and i didn't experience it last year, it's something in here
[05:15] <edenist> thanks, i'll take a look.
[05:16] <gotjuice> nothing looks strange, totally
[05:16] <edenist> heh... .pastebins overloaded....
[05:17] <gotjuice> also, no EE messages on xorg logs
[05:17] <gotjuice> that's somewhat really bizarre
[05:17] <tvin> ctmjr: "ok" what?
[05:20] <gotjuice> for the first time ever i can't see any real reason for system freeze which doesn't react to r-e-i-s-u-b on the same hardware piece that works totally fine :<
[05:20] <gotjuice> my next step is askubuntu, right?
[05:21] <ctmjr> tvin: what are you planning on using to watch and record tv with  look on their website and see what cards are supported
[05:22] <edenist> gotjuice, yeah couldn't see anything which would indicate the cause
[05:22] <gotjuice> edenist, thank you anyway!
[05:23] <ResQue> Is it possible to have grub-efi and grub bc bios on the same system. after install grub-efi version, i get the error "source_dir does not exist" when ever i run "grub-install --target=1386-pc" what am i doing wrong?
[05:23] <edenist> gotjuice, did you check your Xorg.0.log ?
[05:24] <apb1963> ubuntu 12.04.3  3.2.0-57-generic-pae #87-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 12 21:57:43 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux   CRASH.  FREEZE....reboot.... FREEZE....reboot... FREEZE....reboot.... FREEZE
[05:24] <apb1963> Happening about every 45 minutes to an hour maybe.
[05:24] <Beldar> !uefi | ResQue lots of info here.
[05:25] <tvin> ctmjr: I am not sure I understand your question. I plan to record TV with my hard drive, and my monitor, and perhaps a long hdmi cable running from my video card to my TV or something.  And by "their website" you mean http://www.linuxtv.org? Even if a card is supported, that doesn't mean all it's features are
[05:25] <gotjuice> edenist, yep, nothing strange so far, current theory is that there is something with oem-audio-hda-daily-dkms
[05:25] <mi2deep> Anyone have a tip where I could look about creating my own tool to do automated wallpaper switching (either scriptable or otherwise) for multi-monitor?
[05:25] <ResQue> Beldar: i have read this article, but this does not help answer my question
[05:25] <edenist> gotjuice, I would put money on it being audio or video driver related
[05:25] <tvin> ctmjr: I meant to say, and watch with my monitor and perhaps a HDMI cable running to my TV
[05:25] <Beldar> ResQue, and I'm not sure you will get a definitive answer here to be honest.
[05:26] <gotjuice> edenist, seems like so, thanks for pointing that out
[05:26] <edenist> gotjuice, is your laptop one with hybrid graphics?
[05:26] <ResQue> Beldar: what makes you think that? isnt this just a simple matter of package managment?
[05:26] <gotjuice> edenist, yeah, but it runs integrated intel one
[05:27] <edenist> gotjuice, oh ok, so you have it set to only use one? I've had issues with systems when it switches from one to the other
[05:27] <gotjuice> edenist, yeah i never play with unsupported hardware features, sorta habit
[05:27] <Beldar> ResQue, If it was you would have it figured out, uefi is different for every manufacturer, and not a a linux product, which has only been able to provide shims to use it.
[05:28] <gotjuice> besides i have the graphics for windows and 3d modeling software only, let it stay there until optimus will get the very proper support in next century
[05:28] <Beldar> ResQue, In other words not hardly anyone knows it definitively.
[05:28] <ResQue> Beldar: i think you may have misunderstood my question, i am refering to the packages in the repos grub-efi and grub2 not the spec or implimention
[05:29] <Beldar> ResQue, Think what you like.
[05:30] <gotjuice> ResQue, does package manager allows you to install both on the same instance at the same time?
[05:31] <liam> hi, i purchased and want to install 13.10 on asus f102b netbook, it keeps failing insallation- any help!
[05:31] <gotjuice> liam, fails how?
[05:31] <ResQue> gotjuice: yes is it possible? it seems when i install grub i get either grub-efi or the pc grub version i want both
[05:32] <gotjuice> ResQue, if package manager doesn't allow to install both at the same time the very first conclusion is that they are in conflict according to some reason, which leads to some sort of conclusion
[05:33] <ResQue> gotjuice: i was hoping by passing the target=i386-pc or target=x86_64.eft it would know what i wanted to do
[05:33] <Beldar> I rest my case lol
[05:34] <gotjuice> ResQue, honestly i never touch things similar to UEFI, i categorize them subjectively as evil and worthless
[05:34] <gotjuice> so can't help with that
[05:34] <ResQue> gotjuice: lolz uefi is getting better, not sure it its worth the hastle yet
[05:35] <tvin> ctmjr: I am not sure I understand your question. I plan to record TV with my hard drive, and my monitor, and perhaps a long hdmi cable running from my video card to my TV or something. And by "their website" you mean http://www.linuxtv.org? Even if a card is supported, that doesn't mean all it's features are
[05:35] <ctmjr> tvin: let me explain you have a computer, you put a tuner card in it. then you have to do a scan to find the channels you can watch. then you have to have some way to play those channels. then you need a way to change the channels and record them. tv tuners are not plug and play
[05:36] <ResQue> gotjuice: it seems the apt-get install grub2 will install different things depending on the current computer arch type how can i find out whats going on under the hood
[05:36] <liam> well, sorry for delay, it does not seem to load after installation-and warning for low graphics environment appear-keyboard just does not work at that time
[05:36] <ResQue> Beldar: thanks for the time
[05:37] <Coryn|drunkAgain> so do the ATI driver (open source one) just load itself when I boot up? or do I have to install it or something? How to I check what driver I am using?
[05:38] <gotjuice> ResQue, it should be like that, i would suggest to get better understanding of what is going on in initrd and read about the whole sequence of boot in context of how grub2 does in it's docs
[05:38] <liam> gotjuice, I think that last post was for you regardinf asus f102b
[05:39] <tvin> ctmjr What are these "somethings" that I need to do all this, software?
[05:40] <gotjuice> liam, oh, is it the usual ubuntu desktop image you installed it from? it's shipped with desktop environment which requires 3d support, but i might be wrong
[05:41] <floatingpoint> how can I set my password to nothing
[05:41] <ctmjr> tvin: yes
[05:41] <liam> okay, it was from ubuntu site, sorry for my poor knowledge, what kind of 3rd party
[05:41] <gotjuice> floatingpoint, maybe it would be a good idea to share the main goal you're trying to achieve
[05:43] <linuxjones> so i have a laptop with an external monitor connected, i have it set to only use the external monitor, and in the power options i have it set to "do nothing" when i close the lid, but when i do close it, it shuts off the monitor and sound and everything, is there a work around for this?
[05:45] <tvin> ctmjr: Free software?
[05:45] <gotjuice> liam, well, linux launches all that graphic stuff separately, like an unnecessary app if such parallel is appropriate, so some of such desktop environments require graphics card support with 3d features, my best guess is that you need to get working driver for your ati card, i'm not familiar with amd graphics, but there are howtos
[05:45] <liam> okay, will ask again later, thanks for trying
[05:47] <ctmjr> tvin: yes you should start to google now this is getting of topic for the channel
[05:47] <ResQue> gotjuice: ok i think i figured this out. i instaled grub2 on both a bois-pc and efi-pc and did "dpkg get-selections | grub grep" and it seems there are only two files that are different grub-pc-bin and grub-efi-amd64-bin i think i can guess the rest from here thanks for the help
[05:47] <ResQue> Beldar: ^^^
[05:47] <ctmjr> *of/off
[05:47] <gotjuice> ResQue, np, i don't even feel helpful lol
[05:48] <ResQue> gotjuice: wiki rubber duck debugging
[05:48] <ResQue> gotjuice: sometimes just talking it through gets the problem solved
[05:49] <gotjuice> i'm glad it is the case
[05:53] <WilburForce> x
[05:55] <apb1963> My system keeps freezing ever since last night.  It locks up about every 45 minutes and I have to reboot.
[05:55] <apb1963> 12.04.3 LTS
[05:55] <liam> hi I ried installing ubuntu 13.10 on a asus laptop f102b but have been not successful. I get error that it is low grade graphic envirnment, but given the option to select operating in low grade, keyboard does not work
[05:56] <gotjuice> liam, well, linux launches all that graphic stuff separately, like an unnecessary app if such parallel is appropriate, so some of such desktop environments require graphics card support with 3d features, my best guess is that you need to get working driver for your ati card, i'm not familiar with amd graphics, but there are howtos
[05:57] <liam> gotjuice, thanks for that, how do i go about getting the driver?
[05:58] <gotjuice> liam, something like "ubuntu+ati+driver" in search engine
[05:58] <gotjuice> you're looking for a howto
[06:01] <liam> thanks gotjuice, will search:)
[06:01] <gotjuice> liam, you may want to read this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:02] <liam> will do gotjuice, and will sign off to do this, my best regards brother...
[06:03] <gotjuice> liam, np, posting links is not hard lol
[06:07] <mahmudin> asalamualaikum
[06:09] <ElectricPrism> If I create a Software RAID 1 Mirror in Windows can I also apply a Software RAID 1 in Ubuntu?
[06:09] <ElectricPrism> on the same drives
[06:12] <tvin> Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250 should have all its features fully supported under ubuntu regular (not myth tv) with enough work?
[06:13] <BuntuFuntu> I've got a question. Are Ubuntu computers susceptible to being used as botnets, or no?
[06:13] <tozen> hi all! folks what do i have to tipe into caffeines <List of applications is activated for:> to get screensaver disabled automatically? thx
[06:14] <ghil> Quick question: what was the chat channel?
[06:16] <somsip> !ot | ghil
[06:16] <ghil> ah thanks :D
[06:21] <impradeepy> hello
[06:22] <articsun> hey
[06:34] <diehard> hello
[06:40] <AlexLibman> I started getting bitcoin-qt crashes after upgrading to saucy...   :(
[06:40] <Hexagonite> Help, I have an AMD Radeon HD 8210 graphics card and I can't set the brightness
[06:41] <Hexagonite> the applet for brightness appears but it does nothing
[06:41] <AlexLibman> The raring version was 0.8.1-1, the current I just upgrated to (saucy) is 0.8.5-1, and that's what started crashing. I then switched to the PPA version, same problem. Should I go back to 0.8.1-1? What's the recommended way to downgrade a package?
[06:43] <Beldar> AlexLibman, This is from a ppa right?
[06:44] <Beldar> !ppa | AlexLibman
[06:44] <AlexLibman> The old version I didn't have problem with was from raring.  Had problems with both the version from saucy default and from http://ppa.launchpad.net/bitcoin/bitcoin/ubuntu
[06:45] <Beldar> AlexLibman, If you want support use the ubuntu repos.
[06:45] <Beldar> I don't think many use that here is all for support
[06:45] <AlexLibman> I'm trying to downgrade to a version in raring repo.
[06:46] <Beldar> !ppa-purge | AlexLibman
[06:47] <AlexLibman> synaptic force version only lists "0.8.5-saucy1 (saucy)" and "0.8.5-1 (saucy)"
[06:47] <AlexLibman> Not answering my question...
[06:47] <Flannel> !pinning | AlexLibman
[06:47] <AlexLibman> I upgraded from raring to saucy and bitcoin-qt stopped working.
[06:48] <AlexLibman> ok, thanks
[06:48] <Flannel> AlexLibman: That's the method you'll use.  If you want to downgrade to a previous version, you'll need to put that version's repos (raring) in your sources list, I'm not sure if you've done that or not
[06:49] <AlexLibman> No, haven't done that yet.
[06:50] <impradeepy> alex:check the version available in your repo
[06:50] <Flannel> AlexLibman: another way, if it's just one package, is to just download the deb and install it.  You'll still need to do the pinning/holding though, to keep it from upgrading.
[06:51] <Flannel> AlexLibman: Also, insert a standard disclaimer about mixing version potentially leading to problems here, use it at your own risk, etc.
[06:51] <jay-o> Can you please teach me how to change /usr/bin/top permission group/owner into root?
[06:57] <wad> After some fiddling with the BIOS, I got my new laptop to boot to the USB stick containing Ubuntu. I see the nice purple for a few seconds, then a black screen with a blinking cursor, then the screen turns off, and a few seconds later I hear the ubuntu "ready" sound.
[06:58] <wad> Any ideas? I'd like to install ubuntu on my laptop.
[06:58] <wad> There are two video cards in this machine, an integrated intel one, and an NVidia one.
[06:58] <wad> In the BIOS, I disabled the NVidia one, hoping that would help.
[06:59] <kevin__> Yes i'm interesting in knowing how to install latest Nvidia drivers for my laptops Geforce 310M card
[06:59] <kevin__> any help would be great
[07:00] <mehmehmeh> hey, i chroot to my installation from livecd, i am in the root, i can do stuff as i have disk mounted. I su - my username, then i have error: locking counter and permission denied to open. I wanted to ecryptfs-mount-private and download some things from my home to install another system
[07:01] <mehmehmeh> any clue what to do to get to my .private if su to my user gives no permission to anything ?
[07:03] <edenist> wad, what laptop are you using?
[07:03] <wad> lenovo p510
[07:03] <wad> y510p
[07:03] <wad> sorry
[07:04] <wad> Okay, I'm reading an article on it now.
[07:04] <kevin__> I'm using a Samsung R580 Core i3 330M with Nvidia GeForce 310M
[07:04] <kevin__> need to know how to update my Nvidia Graphics driver
[07:07] <edenist> wad, how does it go with the nvidia gpu enabled in bios? still the same?
[07:07] <edenist> do you have an external monitor to plug in? it may be sending the video signal to that?
[07:07] <wad> Almost... except it doesn't make the noise.
[07:07] <wad> No external monitor.
[07:07] <wad> I found a thread online, that is helping.
[07:07] <wad> I'll let you know in a minute.
[07:08] <edenist> wad, no probs
[07:08] <wad> Ah, simple.
[07:08] <wad> I just needed to hit a key
[07:08] <wad> then choose English
[07:08] <wad> then from the menu choose F6
[07:08] <wad> and select nomodeset
[07:09] <wad> TADA!! Got it. :)
[07:09] <edenist> nice :p
[07:09] <sankaran> Studio canon laser printer lbp6000 not working though linux driver installed. you tube while browsing on line runs fast. no sound
[07:09] <wad> Now I'm gonna try it with the other video card on....
[07:10] <edenist> kevin__, do you have nvidia graphics drivers installed currently?
[07:10] <wad> Ah, it's working with the NVidia graphics too! Sweet.
[07:11] <kevin__> yes I do thanks for replying
[07:11] <edenist> wad, great to hear
[07:11] <kevin__> I have Nvidia-304
[07:12] <edenist> kevin__, no probs. How were they installed originally? Through the "additional drivers" section? or manually installed?
[07:12] <kevin__> I just installed Ubuntu 13.10 on my laptop right now and the driver installed with it
[07:12] <kevin__> So it was part of the isntallation package
[07:13] <edenist> ok no worries. The reason I asked is that you must make sure the old drivers are uninstalled first. And that depends on how they were first installed
[07:14] <edenist> so, you have to remove the current nvidia drivers, then install the updated ones. so, if you are on 304, do the following
[07:16] <edenist> kevin__, 'sudo apt-get purge nvidia*' followed by 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-319-updates'
[07:16] <edenist> if you are happy with the 319 drivers
[07:17] <edenist> which are the latest in the default repos
[07:17] <edenist> anything newer,aand you may have to get them directly  from the nvidia website
[07:18] <kevin__> Thank you very much! Edenist worked a dream
[07:18] <edenist> great :-D, no probs
[07:19] <edenist> alrighty, i've gotta bounce
[07:20] <iei2k32> does anybody know if there is a device that can receive video wireless (which hooks to a tv) from a linux box (without plugging in a transmitter device on the linux machine)?
[07:21] <iei2k32> the idea being you run an application on the linux pc that captures the screen and wirelessly transmits it to a device hooked up to the tv where the receiving device does decoding / conversion to output to the tv
[07:26] <icemen> ciao
[07:26] <icemen> dowload
[07:28] <supergauntlet> anyone know anything about optimus?
[07:34] <BuntuFuntu> Such community. Much love. so nice
[07:39] <mehmehmeh> adding "tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0" to fstab and mount -a helped. Cya
[07:51] <icemen> ciao
[07:52] <icemen> dark sin
[07:57] <pahaloom> hi, where could I find out what has changed in kernel so that with 3.11.0-14-generic my thinkpad t430 will no longer sleep?
[07:58] <pahaloom> it does sleep nicely when I select old kernel at boot (3.11.0-13-generic)
[07:59] <Kartagis> how can I update the path for `which`
[07:59] <Kartagis> ?
[08:00] <Kartagis> pahaloom: CHANGELOG
[08:04] <Beldar> pahaloom, sleeps here with that kernel I would look around for problems with that computer model and that kernel to start with, or specific hardware.
[08:16] <crocket> I found a weird behavior on ubuntu 13.10
[08:17] <crocket> When I copy a file anywhere(samba mount, local mount, usb mount, ...), empty data is generated first and data is sent to fill it.
[08:17] <buu> crocket: You mean it preallocates the file?
[08:18] <crocket> buu, It seems to do so.
[08:19] <uefinoob> Hey guys
[08:20] <buu> crocket: Ok, and?
[08:20] <uefinoob> I tried to install Ubuntu on my new ThinkPad laptop with UEFI, did the usual (disable fastboot, secure boot, etc.), and wanted to select "Install Alongside" as seen in this screenshot: http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1347270713.png
[08:20] <uefinoob> only problem, when I got to that point, it's not there, only wipe hard drive and "something else"
[08:20] <uefinoob> so my question is
[08:21] <uefinoob> will it run if I just shrink the main windows partition and make a new one for Ubuntu?
[08:21] <Jordan_U> uefinoob: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[08:21] <uefinoob> okay that would require a reboot into ubuntu
[08:21] <uefinoob> not a problem
[08:21] <uefinoob> thank you for trying to help me
[08:21] <crocket> buu, How can I prevent preallocation?
[08:21] <uefinoob> i remember installing hardy heron many years ago on a real BIOS lol
[08:22] <buu> crocket: Aside from the obvious answer of 'google it' why do you want to?
[08:23] <crocket> buu : 1) It makes it very difficult to measure the estimated time of copy completion 2) if the copy destination is a remote one and I stop the copy in the middle, the local machine keeps sending useless bits to the destination machine for minutes at full speed.
[08:23] <uefinoob> alright im in ubuntu
[08:24] <Jordan_U> uefinoob: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[08:25] <crocket> buu : even if I stop the copy in the middle, it actually stops after it's done uploading.
[08:25] <buu> Well there's always http://askubuntu.com/questions/17275/progress-and-speed-with-cp
[08:25] <uefinoob> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/utRmtwa3
[08:26] <uefinoob> The hidden partitions are a sort of recovery partition, I'd rather keep them incase all goes wrong
[08:28] <uefinoob> My only real question is, if I resize my Windows partition and make a new one for Ubuntu, will it boot, and if not, will bootrepair fix it for me?
[08:29] <buu> uefinoob: You can always run fixmbr
[08:29] <uefinoob> I see
[08:35] <crocket> Man
[08:36] <Beldar> uefinoob, Have you made the recovery iso yet in W8?
[08:37] <crocket> Why can't I stop a copy to a USB mount and a cifs mount?
[08:37] <crocket> Why can't I stop a copy to a USB mount and a cifs mount in the middle?
[08:38] <buu> Because the kernel acts in mysterious ways.
[08:38] <buu> Ineffable are the ways of the kernel.
[08:38] <buu> Amen.
[08:40] <uefinoob> Beldar: No :/
[08:42] <uefinoob> I'm wondering, if I run bootrepair, will it be able to fix it all for me?
[08:42] <mike029> hi everyone, is there a way to list the available sessions for lubuntu? i'm trying to make an auto-login but i don't know the names of the sessions, specially the one called "Game" or something
[08:42] <Beldar> uefinoob, Make sure you do, you would want to have it W8 has the ability to do some of what it's used for from the desktop, but if you need to reload the boot or reload images you would want it. In general windows should be resized with its disk manager leaving an unallocated for ubuntu to install alongside, make an image/clone of windows if you can to be covered.
[08:43] <Beldar> uefinoob, Have you looked at the uefi wiki?
[08:44] <uefinoob> yes i did but it never mentioned partitioning in the detail. i thought the installer would have the option "install alongside" as shown in the screenshot in the wiki but it doesn't :/
[08:45] <uefinoob> I'll make a recovery USB, create a blank partition from the disk manager in windows, then choose that partiton in ubuntu installer, install, and then run bootrepair
[08:45] <Beldar> uefinoob, It does with msdos, I'm not sure with gpt, however using the windows partitioner is safer.
[08:45] <kryto> helo world
[08:45] <uefinoob> Alright thanks for the advice I'll hope theres no bugs that wipe all my files
[08:46] <Beldar> uefinoob, Don;t run bootrepair unless you need to, it may install fone and the grub menu will show both.
[08:46] <Beldar> s/don't/fine
[08:47] <Beldar> uefinoob, I suggest an image/clone all windows installs allow at least one pro and above allow as many as you want.
[08:47] <salmander> Goddamn 13.10 upgrade. Does anyone here know if the issue with RTL8192 working in 13.04 and not working in later Ubuntu releases been fixed? I've been working on this issue for the last two days. tried different ubuntu releaes, modprobe blacklisting/etc. nothing works. The issue is WPA2 is always rejected
[08:47] <salmander> (aside from so many other issues in 13.10, this is the most pressing for me at least)
[08:47] <heon> I have a problem about sound on Ubunto . I have a  AMD HD 3200 built in main board.
[08:48] <uefinoob> heon: Are you using alsa?
[08:48] <heon> I don't
[08:48] <heon> I am a beginner
[08:49] <kryto> isnt there a compatibility  hardware list?
[08:49] <kryto> duh
[08:49] <DJones> !hcl | kryto
[08:50] <kryto> dunca shea
[08:50] <kryto> you rock
[08:50] <heon> Do you have any HDMI problem? I do.
[08:51] <uefinoob> Radeon drivers are no good with HDMI
[08:51] <kryto> i like ubuntu2
[08:51] <Bam_Bam> hello guys
[08:51] <Beldar> salmander, I see a bug page on this have you seen it?
[08:51] <Bam_Bam> need help
[08:51] <uefinoob> my god it's so different since hardy heron
[08:51] <uefinoob> this sidebar
[08:51] <uefinoob> thing is strange
[08:52] <salmander> Beldar, I've seen many people complaining about this, I've tried about 4 different things, nothing works.
[08:52] <kryto> whats wrong with the side bar?
[08:52] <salmander> I think this may be a kernel issue as I also tried latest opensuse, and it has the same issue.
[08:52] <heon> ok see thanks
[08:52] <Bam_Bam> my video card does not work after upgrade to 3.12 kernel
[08:52] <Bam_Bam> plese help
[08:52] <uefinoob> what video card?
[08:53] <Bam_Bam> nvidia 8400M GS
[08:53] <kryto> nvidia wrky good
[08:53] <Beldar> salmander, not exactly an answer to the question I can understand the frustration, but without any details what you have actually tried here is what I see. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1220007
[08:53] <uefinoob> are you running the proprietary nvidia drivers?
[08:53] <Bam_Bam> yes
[08:53] <Bam_Bam> that was 304.xx
[08:56] <salmander> Beldar, nope. not relaly that one. it doesn't connect at all, another popular bug is very slow network connection, not that one either. I think I'm putting 13.04 back. Also tried 14, it just doesn't work. Also, upgrade from 13.04->13.10 broke the system gui doesn't work. had to install 13.10 over again.
[08:57] <kryto> did you like 10.4
[08:57] <Beldar> salmander, If you look closely at that link there is a driver link for this card on 13.10.
[08:58] <kryto> 13.4 had issues we thought
[08:59] <the_drow> Hi guys, my extra monitor is not working. It is not detected on the Displays screen.
[09:00] <salmander> Beldar, do you mean the .bin firmware?
[09:01] <salmander> I see a git listing, it's for 8192CU, not SE
[09:01] <the_drow> Here's the relevant information: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6523913/
[09:02] <kryto> wheres all the new hack files
[09:02] <Beldar> salmander, #11.
[09:03] <salmander> Beldar, yeah, that's the one I'm looking at
[09:07] <the_drow> How do I diagnose a dual screen problem? Ubuntu does not recognize it as connected: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6523913/
[09:07] <terte> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/quit
[09:21] <afidegnum> hello, please I seriously need help, can anyone direct me to proper bitcoin wallet setup on debian/ubuntu?
[09:22] <Rory> afidegnum: http://bitcoin.org/en/download
[09:22] <Rory> afidegnum: To save you the trouble reading: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bitcoin/bitcoin && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install bitcoin
[09:22] <afidegnum> ok, checking again
[09:23] <ozfalcon> Please help me use the man command. I want to use man to locate a word in a page.
[09:23] <peho>  /join #symfony
[09:24] <Rory> ozfalcon: The "man" command shows the manual, what do you mean you want to use it to locate a word?
[09:24] <Beldar> ozfalcon, ctrl-f
[09:25] <Rory> ozfalcon: Do you mean you want to search for a specific word in a man page?
[09:25] <ozfalcon> I want to do it from command line. example: man 5 proc (But I want to find printk in that page) by command line.
[09:26] <Rory> ozfalcon: map -P cat command_name | grep word
[09:27] <Rory> ozfalcon: You can search the man page when it's open (man 5 proc) by just typing / and then the word you want to search for, and pressing Enter
[09:27] <Rory> Because man just uses the "less" pager
[09:27] <ozfalcon> Rory, Yes I know. But I want to do that last step (/printk) via the command line all in one go.
[09:29] <ozfalcon> Is it possible to make man search from the command line?
[09:30] <Rory> no but there's something similar you can do. Also it's "less" not "man" that's displaying the text. Give me a sec
[09:30] <Rory> ozfalcon: man -P cat 5 proc | grep --color -E  '^|printk'
[09:31] <center60_> Hey guys. Im running lubuntu and am very new to linux. For some reason it shows that I am connected to the internet (wireless) but it won't let me browse. I can use Terminal to update, but it is very slow. suggestions?
[09:31] <ozfalcon> Not really what I'm after.....
[09:31] <Rory> ozfalcon: That will highlight the words
[09:32] <gordonjcp> center60_: can other devices connect to the wifi correctly?
[09:32] <ozfalcon> I want man to just go to that section.
[09:32] <Rory> oh!
[09:32] <afidegnum> BTW, pls remind me, how do we extract the tar.gz file again?
[09:32] <Rory> afidegnum: tar xvf filename
[09:32] <center60_> gordon, how do I pm?
[09:32] <Rory> afidegnum: https://xkcd.com/1168/
[09:33] <center60_> I'm also new to IRC, haha
[09:33] <ozfalcon> eg. How to I get man to go directly to "/proc/sys/kernel/printk"
[09:34] <ObrienDave> center60_, open dialog window = PM
[09:34] <gordonjcp> center60_: don't pm
[09:34] <gordonjcp> center60_: keep it in channel
[09:34] <center60_> oh okay
[09:34] <gordonjcp> center60_: and, as a handy hint, start typing someone's nick and hit <tab> to autocomplete it
[09:34] <Rory> ozfalcon: man --pager='less -p printk' 5 proc
[09:34] <Rory> ozfalcon: http://serverfault.com/questions/206810/how-to-jump-to-a-specific-heading-in-a-man-page
[09:35] <center60_> okay, Yes other devices can go on the internet. The computer set up that is not working is using a usb wireless adapter
[09:35] <center60_> I am on my fathers pc
[09:35] <gordonjcp> can you try it with wired internet?
[09:35] <center60_> unfortunately no, I don't have a long enough networking cable
[09:36] <center60_> it was working for like one minute
[09:36] <center60_> but not anymore
[09:36] <ozfalcon> Thanks, Will also investigate that link.
[09:38] <center60_> The funny thing is it says I am connected, but obviously it won't do anything. I have tried changing DNS servers so that is not the issue.
[09:38] <the_drow> So I restarted, booted to an older kernel version and I still can't get my secondary screen to work.
[09:39] <the_drow> I even installed xorg-edgers (https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa) to see if that will solve the problem but nope :/
[09:39]  * the_drow needs help badly
[09:39] <the_drow> I can't work with a 12 inch screen
[09:39] <Rory> the_drow: What graphics hardware do you have? What's the output of "lspci | grep VGA"
[09:39] <Rory> the_drow: And what Ubuntu version are you using? (output of: cat /etc/issue)
[09:40] <center60_> Anybody got suggestions?
[09:40] <the_drow> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[09:40] <the_drow> 13.10
[09:40] <Rory> the_drow: If you install the package "xrandr" and run that program, do you see your monitors in the interface?
[09:40] <the_drow> uname --all Linux omerk 3.11.0-14-generic #21-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 12 17:07:40 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:40] <Rory> the_drow: How is the monitor connected?
[09:40] <the_drow> xrander -q says that the VGA is not connected
[09:41] <the_drow> Hold on, I'll paste everything
[09:41] <Rory> the_drow: Sorry I mean "arandr" I haven't had coffee yet
[09:41] <Rory> !paste
[09:41] <the_drow> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6523913/
[09:41] <the_drow> Rory: There's no need to treat me as a newbie
[09:41] <Rory> the_drow: Why? How am I to know? I treat everyone the same at first :)
[09:41] <the_drow> Installing
[09:42] <Rory> Is it an HDMI connection?
[09:42] <the_drow> No. mini thingy to DVI.
[09:42] <the_drow> Hold on I'll ask how is it called
[09:42] <Rory> mini displayport
[09:42] <the_drow> Mini DVI to DVI
[09:42] <Rory> ah OK
[09:42] <Rory> Has it ever worked, say on another operating system?
[09:42] <the_drow> arander shows only one screen
[09:43] <the_drow> Rory: Yup.
[09:43] <the_drow> It worked yesterday on my machine
[09:43] <Rory> On Ubuntu 13.10?
[09:43] <Rory> As in, did it stop working for no apparent reason?
[09:44] <olgac> Türkçe bilen var mı?
[09:44] <center60_> gordonjcp: Hey, do you have any idea how to fix my problem. If not it's okay. Sorry for bugging you.
[09:44] <the_drow> Rory: yes. But it still works on other Ubuntu machines, an OSX machine and Windows
[09:44] <the_drow> Rory: Yes
[09:44] <the_drow> Please don't say reinstall :P
[09:44] <the_drow> I need to get things done today
[09:45] <Rory> the_drow: Can you pastebin the output of "lspci -v" ?
[09:45] <the_drow> Sure
[09:46] <the_drow> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6524008/
[09:46] <Rory> brb 10 mins meeting
[09:46] <kryto> nite you'all
[09:47] <the_drow> Rory: btw, last time it happened I upgraded to 13.10 from 13.04 and everything worked fine :)
[09:47] <emr> hello i'm trying compile something however fatal error: lua.h: No such file or directory, i installed lua5.1, liblua5.2-dev
[09:48] <cfhowlett> !tr|olgac,
[09:48] <Bawz> Need hug
[09:48] <gordonjcp> center60_: some USB wifi adaptors can be a bit flaky, can you try another means of connecting?
[09:48] <cfhowlett> Bawz, no hugz here
[09:48] <gvo> emr is liblua5.1-0-dev installed?
[09:49] <emr> gvo, yes liblua5.1-0-dev is already the newest version.
[09:49] <center60_> I wish I could, but there is no way unless I set up the computer right next to the router. I know it can work because it did for a minute. Maybe I just need to get a new comp.
[09:49] <gvo> emr is /usr/include/lua5.1/lua.h there?
[09:49] <emr> gvo, yes -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12K Aug  6  2008 /usr/include/lua5.1/lua.h
[09:50] <olgac> ubuntu shell also how more than one code is written in a single line
[09:50] <olgac> ?
[09:50] <gvo> OK then the source you are trying to compile doesn't include that path.
[09:50] <emr> gvo,  ah right checking, thanks
[09:50] <gvo> C or C++
[09:51] <emr> gvo, C
[09:52] <gvo> Is the package using ./configure to configure things?
[09:52] <emr> gvo, yes, trying build https://github.com/client9/libinjection/
[09:53] <gvo> emr I suspect there is an option to ./configure to provide an include path, but you'll have to check the documentation to see.
[09:53] <center60_> :( Maybe I won't be able to get this to work. Thanks to those who tried to help.
[09:53] <rob_p> olgac: You mean more than one command like, "<command1> && <command2>" or are you asking something else?
[09:53] <emr> thanks gvo i can handle rest thanks:)
[09:54] <gvo> emr good thing, 'cause I can't help with that.  ;)
[09:54] <gvo> olgac: or do you mean <command1>;<command2>?
[09:54] <emr> :dd
[09:57] <the_drow> Rory: ping me when you're here
[09:58] <Rory> the_drow: ping
[09:58] <gvo> the_drow: in the meantime, does dmesg contain anything of interest?
[09:58] <the_drow> Great.
[09:58] <Rory> the_drow: Just checking your pastebin now
[09:59] <fibberdibber> wait wait
[09:59] <fibberdibber> woops
[09:59] <fibberdibber> disregard
[10:00] <the_drow> I don't see anything important but just in case: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6524050/
[10:00] <Rory> the_drow: Can you check your laptop keyboard for a fn+button combination to toggle external displays?
[10:01] <Rory> the_drow: I love it when that's the solution
[10:02] <the_drow> I have a screen button but it displays some ubuntu reference for hotkeys
[10:02] <Rory> the_drow: What is the model of your laptop?
[10:02] <the_drow> Dell XPS
[10:02] <Rory> More specifically?
[10:03] <the_drow> It doesn'
[10:03] <the_drow> It doesn't say
[10:03] <Rory> Not even on the bottom, on a sticker?
[10:04] <the_drow> Nope
[10:04] <Rory> Can you try Fn+F8
[10:04] <the_drow> Nada
[10:04] <the_drow> This is my display card: Intel® Ivybridge Mobile x86/MMX/SSE2
[10:05] <Rory> The Ubuntu overlay shouldn't appear, you see, that only appears when you hold the Super key
[10:05] <Rory> Super key =  "Windows key"
[10:05] <the_drow> You are right but it does appaer
[10:06] <the_drow> It appears tha
[10:06] <the_drow> It appears also when you hold do Fn and press F1
[10:06] <Rory> the_drow: Can you pastebin "ls /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d "
[10:06] <the_drow> Fn + F1 without holding Fn causes the laptop screen to blink but I still don't have a secondary screen
[10:07] <the_drow> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6524067/
[10:08] <DoverMo> the_drow, you don't have dual gpu's right?
[10:08] <the_drow> DoverMo: nope
[10:09] <the_drow> Not as far I know.
[10:09] <DoverMo> the_drow, okay
[10:09] <Rory> the_drow: Can you try: xrandr --addmode VGA1 1024x768 (replace with your external monitor's resolution)
[10:09] <Rory> and then: xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1024x768 --right-of eDP1
[10:09] <Rory> (again, replace the resolution as appropriate)
[10:10] <the_drow> xrandr: cannot find mode 1920x1080
[10:11] <Rory> is that from the first or second command?
[10:11] <the_drow> Second
[10:11] <Rory> And the first command you ran was: xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1920x1080 ?
[10:12] <the_drow> Yup.
[10:12] <the_drow> Same result.
[10:15] <Rory> the_drow: I'm pretty much out of ideas; you could try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel"
[10:15] <the_drow> I already installed everything from https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=saucy
[10:15] <the_drow> I reinstalled anyway
[10:15] <the_drow> Now what?
[10:15] <Rory> the_drow: Now try to reboot
[10:16] <the_drow> Rory: Just a note, it didn't work before I installed from edgers.
[10:16] <the_drow> Rory: brb.
[10:16] <grahamsavage> hey is there any very reliable way i can forward  port 25 -> to a high number internal port
[10:16] <grahamsavage> i've got a server currently running as root.. i'd prefer if i could run it as a standard user process
[10:16] <Bawz> I like cake.
[10:17] <Rory> grahamsavage: What program is it?
[10:17] <grahamsavage> Rory: custom TCP software
[10:17] <Rory> grahamsavage: Only root can listen on ports below 1024
[10:17] <grahamsavage> exactly
[10:18] <grahamsavage> that's why i was thinking we could bind it to another port above 1000 and just have ubuntu forward it
[10:20] <tking> (tking) Pls am on mobile but I do need help for my pc. I installed nvdia driver but when I reboot, I cant see the desktop.  I can see the following error.  Failed: failed to start initial setup configuration program.  See systemctl status initial-setup-graphical.service for details
[10:23] <gvo> tking what version?
[10:23] <gvo> tking: Of ubuntu, that is
[10:24] <vak> hi all
[10:24] <vak> there is no audio recorder preinstalled in ubuntu 13.10 to record something from microphone?..
[10:27] <the_drow> Rory: :/
[10:27] <the_drow> I still have no secondary screen
[10:27] <krabas> Hello
[10:28] <Rory> the_drow: What changed in between "it working" and "it not working" ?
[10:29] <salminde> помогите настроить GLPI на юбунту плз
[10:29] <DJones> !ru | salminde
[10:30] <the_drow> I closed the lid yesterday and there was no battery when I opened it today.
[10:30] <salminde>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[10:31] <the_drow> Rory: So basically nothing
[10:34] <the_drow> Rory: Anything else or should we declare this as an Ubuntu fail?
[10:35] <Rory> the_drow: Check the BIOS
[10:35] <the_drow> For?
[10:35] <Rory> the_drow: Disabled external monitor
[10:35] <uefinoob> hello
[10:35] <the_drow> Ok, restarting again...
[10:36] <uefinoob> so i made a new partition in windows, went into ubuntu installer and selected it, formatted it as ext4, and then clicked install
[10:36] <uefinoob> but it says "No root file system detected"
[10:36] <Rory> uefinoob: You need to select that partition to be mounted under "/"
[10:36] <Rory> uefinoob: It's not enough that the partition merely exists, you need to tell Ubuntu to install to it
[10:37] <uefinoob> Ah yes, should've googled before hand sorry
[10:37] <Jeaton> i have multiple versions of ubuntu installed on this hdd and Im getting ready to install over one of them
[10:37] <grahamsavage> i have a ruby program that i want to run sudo setcap 'cap_net_bind_service=+ep' /bin/rake   but i only want to allow it for a single process .. is there ways i can make it only work for that process
[10:38] <Jeaton> i dont really want to install over this one, so how do I check which filesystem each one is
[10:38] <Jeaton> or at least this one, that way I dont install over it
[10:38] <mamy>     #ubuntu-fr-offtopic
[10:38] <Rory> Jeaton: type "mount" to see what's mounted where
[10:39] <uefinoob> okay the other thing that's not very clear to me, should i set the device for bootloader installation to /dev/sda
[10:40] <uefinoob> or /dev/sda2 or whatever the efi partition is?
[10:42] <uefinoob> efi it is
[10:43] <jacobw> hi, wireshark seems to be crashing when trying to open a pcap file on 13.10 for me, is anyone else using wireshark on 13.10?
[10:44] <hs366> jacobw, im new with wireshark just installed it but it's working fine i think
[10:46] <jacobw> hs366: thanks, i'll try to get some more troubleshooting information and maybe file a bug
[10:47] <uefinoob> alright
[10:47] <uefinoob> here goes nothing
[10:47] <uefinoob> installing the system i pray to Linus and RMS that my proprietary software does not get annihalated
[10:48] <gvo> back it up!
[10:48] <uefinoob> i backed up my keepass database
[10:48] <uefinoob> the other data is not that important, but i dont want the hassle of reinstalling windows, word, etc.
[10:48] <olgac> hello
[10:48] <olgac> ubuntu shell commands can be given a maximum number in a single row
[10:48] <uefinoob> shit takes hours
[10:49] <olgac> ?
[10:49] <olgac> ubuntu shell commands can be given a maximum number in a single row ?
[10:49] <Rory> olgac: Was that a question?
[10:50] <olgac> yes
[10:50] <llutz> olgac: "getconf ARG_MAX"
[10:50] <olgac> llutz ?
[10:51] <lelele> it's so hard to setup pdnsd :(
[10:53] <olgac> uname -a ; lsb_release -a ; cat /etc/passwd > /home/olgac/Masaüstü/abc.txt
[10:53] <olgac> All of the results when you type the command does not
[10:54] <gvo> You want to redirect the output of all those commands to a single file?
[10:54] <llutz> olgac: sh -c " uname -a ; lsb_release -a ; cat /etc/passwd"  > /home/olgac/Masaüstü/abc.txt
[10:55] <olgac> ok
[10:56] <olgac> olgac@galaxy:~$ sh -c " uname -a ; lsb_release -a ; cat /etc/passwd"  > /home/olgac/Masaüstü/abc.txt
[10:56] <olgac> No LSB modules are available.
[10:56] <llutz> olgac: sh -c " uname -a ; lsb_release -a ; cat /etc/passwd"  > /home/olgac/Masaüstü/abc.txt  2>/dev/null
[10:57] <llutz> or just ignore it
   thanks
[11:01] <olgac> I wrote the code and how do I print the results to txt file ?
[11:02] <llutz> olgac:   > /home/olgac/Masaüstü/abc.txt    does
[11:02] <cfhowlett> olgac, pipe    command    output|text.file
[11:03] <llutz> cfhowlett: not really
[11:03] <olgac> Could you give an example
[11:03] <cfhowlett> llutz, yeah, I saw that.  I'm now going to be silent and observe.  :)
[11:03] <llutz> olgac: command > output.file
[11:03] <gvo> olgac: echo hello >/tmp/foo.txt
[11:04] <llutz> olgac: http://linuxcommand.org/lts0060.php
[11:05] <pnorman> I have a dedicated server booted up into Debian over the network. I want to install ubuntu on the server, but I'm not sure how to best do it because my past experiences installing have been from USB flash drives. I can't reboot onto a .iso.
[11:06] <gvo> pnorman: If you don't have physical access, it's more difficult.
[11:06] <gvo> Do you own the server or are you renting it?
[11:07] <pnorman> renting, dedicated server.
[11:07] <pnorman> I could use their install system and get their slightly customized distro
[11:07] <botsu> xscreensaver does not work in 13.10. all necessary packages are installed, screensaver can be previewed but it does not work with the system
[11:08] <gvo> Contact the company.  They will be able to tell you how.  Without their support I suspect you can't do it.
 ingilizceyi = google translate :))
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[11:08] <olgac> :))
[11:09] <llutz> olgac: ask in #ubuntu-tr, they might help
[11:09] <olgac> ok
[11:09] <botsu> anyone has a working xscreensaver?
[11:10] <pnorman> gvo: no way to install it without booting from the CD?
[11:10] <hexabit> Testing
[11:10] <gvo> pnorman: Not that I'm aware of.
[11:10] <gvo> pnorman: You need to boot from some sort of media other than your HD.
[11:11] <pnorman> I'm currently booted from the network
[11:12] <gvo> You mean you're using PXE on a dedicated server?  Where is the boot device?
[11:13] <pnorman> network.
[11:13] <gvo> No where is the pxe server located?
[11:14] <pnorman> somewhere in the same datacenter, I don't know. it's their recovery setup.
[11:14] <gvo> Do you have access to it?
[11:14] <pnorman> no.
[11:14] <llutz> pnorman: can't you use debootstrap from the rescue-system?
[11:15] <pnorman> llutz: I'm not sure, that's the first time it's been mentioned
[11:16] <llutz> pnorman: read on it, maybe it'd be a way to install
[11:17] <gvo> llutz do you know if debootstrap is on his rescue system?
[11:17] <llutz> gvo: no how would i? his job to check that
[11:18] <gvo> llutz OK thought you had prior knowledge.
[11:18] <pnorman> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/linux-upgrade.html seems like the relevant page; yes, I have debootstrap, and it's even installed already
[11:18] <llutz> gvo: no, that's why i asked " can't you use ...?"
[11:18] <gvo> llutz OK
[11:28] <alinuxfriend> hii
[11:29] <aminuddin> how i
[11:29] <cfhowlett> !anyone|botsu,
[11:29] <aminuddin> how when i wanna instals vga card
[11:32] <botsu> cfhowlett: i gave the details of my issue before i asked if anyone has a working xscreensaver. now, do you?
[11:33] <cfhowlett> botsu, yes
[11:34] <botsu> in this case i find it pertinent to ask if anyone has a working xscreensaver because they might have figured out how to make it work.
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> botsu: work in what sense?
[11:36] <botsu> none of the standard procedures work. all proper packages are installed, gnome-screensaver is removed, xscreensaver -nosplash has been added to StartupPrograms.
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> botsu: so where is the issue?
[11:37] <botsu> i can only call xscreensaver-demo and preview them, they are not working with the system, ctrl-alt-l does not lock the screen
[11:38] <botsu> and neither is Lock/Switch account from the top bar
[11:38] <the_drow> Rory: It works. I have no idea why.
[11:39] <Rory> the_drow: Maybe the adaptor/cable is on the way out?
[11:39] <the_drow> Rory: It works on other machines and screens
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> botsu: if you click file in the xscreensaver-demo window, can you start the daemn?
[11:40] <botsu> yes
[11:40] <botsu> the demos work fine. the screensaver is not working with the system tho.
[11:46] <botsu> ActionParsnip: i can lock the screen using the Lock Screen option in the xscreensaver Preferences. but that's sort of a workaround, not an actual solution
[11:47] <botsu> that means i have to have the Preferences open if i want to run the screensaver. silly
[11:48] <lujaw> node.js.nepal
[11:49] <Kartagis> how do I proceed if I want to `find ` a bunch of files and burn them on a CD? do I use cdrecord?
[11:52] <llutz> Kartagis: cdrecord would need mkisofs
[11:52] <Kartagis> llutz: what do I need then?
[11:52] <Kartagis> cdrao?
[11:52] <llutz> Kartagis: i don't know any cli-tool for that
[11:53] <botsu> Kartagis: 13.10 comes with brasero, works well for burning .iso's or other data onto cd-r or dvd
[11:53] <llutz> Kartagis: cdrecord/cdrdao always need an image (or mkisofs and a pipe)
[11:54] <Kartagis> botsu: I'm aware of brasero, but I can:'t use it as I would lose a lot of time ascending into directories and such
[11:54] <pauser> hello, how is it possible to connect an extra monitor to laptop on ubuntu, every time i do it, both screens get turned off
[11:54] <cfhowlett> !xrandr|pauser,
[11:55] <k1l_> pauser: that depends in the video card, the driver and such
[11:55] <llutz> Kartagis: ugly way: use find to copy your files into /tmp/dir and then: mkisofs -R /tmp/dir|cdrecord -
[11:56] <pauser> k1l_: it worked before 2 weeks not its not working
[11:56] <Kartagis> llutz: as a last resort, yes
[11:56] <k1l_> pauser: we need a lot more details.
[11:57] <pauser> k1l_: NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS, thats the card
[11:57] <botsu> pauser: what ubuntu version are you on
[11:57] <hydra7> can i create a partition from windows using gparted? Here's my current disk's partitions: http://imgur.com/sbFco6T
[11:57] <hydra7> *for
[11:59] <pauser> botsu: ubuntu 13.04, x64, Gallium 0.4 on NV98 graphics , thats on my details
[12:00] <llutz> Kartagis: mkisofs has an own find-option, maybe you could use that to gather your files and pipe into cdrecord
[12:00] <botsu> pauser: install the nvidia driver from the Restricted Drivers section
[12:00] <llutz> Kartagis: "mkisofs -find -help"
[12:01] <pauser> botsu: how ?!
[12:01] <Kartagis> hrm
[12:02] <hydra7> anyone?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> hydra7: I'd only format to NTFS in Windows, NTFS is propriatary to Microsoftso for reliability I suggest you use Windows
[12:04] <hydra7> ActionParsnip: that means not using gparted to create partition?
[12:07] <botsu> pauser: open the dash and look for Software and Updates
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> hydra7: you can make the partition, that's not a problem, but formatting it will need doing in WIndows
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> hydra7: Gparted will make industry standard partitions
[12:07] <botsu> in there, go to the additional drivers tab and check if there are any nvidia drivers for your card
[12:08] <botsu> pauser: ^
[12:08] <pauser> botsu: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current ?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> botsu: ^ +1
[12:09] <hydra7> okay ActionParnsip will do it in Windows btw is there a way to add space to /home
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> hydra7: you can expand and shrink partitions as you need. Be sure your backups are up to date before yu start playing
[12:09] <botsu> you said you were on 13.04, just use the dash and search for Software and updates to install the nvidia driver
[12:11] <hydra7> ActionParsnip: just backing up home folder right? would it affect the packages installed?
[12:11] <pauser> botsu: im using gnome-shell
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> hydra7: no the packages will be fine. Backup whatever you need. You should have a backup in place already, or is your data not important to you?
[12:12] <botsu> pauser: 'am using unity
[12:13] <pauser> botsu: so you mean now after restart it should work using dual monitors ?!
[12:13] <hydra7> ActionParsnip: will do
[12:14] <botsu> pauser: i believe it's a good start, give it a try and restart
[12:14] <pauser> ok thanks , im going to try now
[12:16] <mycziii> how r u guys?
[12:17] <hydra7> ActionParsnip: the size of the disk altered after installation. i had given 15gb (converting as 15*1024=15360) but now it only shows 14.3gb. same with others too
[12:17] <hemangpatel> Hi
[12:17] <hemangpatel> How to install .run extension file ?
[12:18] <mycziii> sorry, im green hand, too
[12:18] <IceSeven> hello
[12:18] <IceSeven> Is anyone would like to help me ?
[12:19] <llutz> IceSeven: ask your question and see
[12:19] <IceSeven> OK
[12:19] <IceSeven> Please wait
[12:20] <OerHeks> hemangpatel, cd /to/the/folder & ./file-name.run
[12:20] <hemangpatel> OerHeks, I had seen .deb and others but .run is new to me
[12:20] <k1l_> OerHeks: do they need +x?
[12:21] <OerHeks> hemangpatel, if you get an error, perform " chmod +x file-name.run  "  to make it executable
[12:21] <botsu> they should put more thought into the naming of things, there is Software & Updates AND Software Updater , i think there is a third one too with similar name, it only complicate things when trying to help someone...
[12:21] <k1l_> hemangpatel: .run is not compatible with the package manager. its kind of sideloading
[12:21] <hemangpatel> ok thanks
[12:23] <pauser> thanks you now , dual monitor is working for the moment after restarting . thanks bye
[12:25] <botsu> i still need info on how to make xscreensaver work as intended
[12:27] <botsu> guess i'll give Unity Tweak Tools a try, maybe there'll be an option in there
[12:33] <davetesc> Anybody here use Genie??
[12:34] <salminde> pizdec
[12:34] <salminde> russkie est'?
[12:35] <cfhowlett> !ru|salminde,
[12:38] <crocket> hi
[12:39] <compdoc> hey, davy
[12:39] <crocket> I re-enabled systray by installing packages from ppa:mc3man/sacy-tests, but after software updates, systray disappeared again.
[12:39] <crocket> Why did canonical remove systray? how can I get it back?
[12:40] <mycziii> hey, guys
[12:41] <IceSeven> Aborted (core dumped)
[12:41] <IceSeven> invoke-rc.d: initscript cpufreqd, action "start" failed.
[12:41] <IceSeven> dpkg: error processing cpufreqd (--configure):
[12:42] <IceSeven> When I install programes
[12:42] <IceSeven> I see the warning
[12:42] <IceSeven> I don't kown how to do?
[12:43] <IceSeven> Who Can help me
[12:43] <k1l_> IceSeven: put the whole command and output into a pastebin
[12:44] <IceSeven> e .Please wait
[12:44] <IceSeven> My girlfriend call me
[12:46] <yudi16> hai..
[12:48] <cfhowlett> IceSeven, you left a broken ubuntu problem cuz your girlfriend called?  priorities, man.
[12:48] <compdoc> she muct be cute
[12:48] <compdoc> must
[12:51] <snufft> hey guys!
[12:51] <snufft> is it possible to use sftp from within an existing ssh session?
[12:52] <snufft> or do i have to start a new terminal window and sftp from there?
[12:52] <hyperboreean> hey, can someone please help me with this error for which Google doesn't give much info:  pulseaudio: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpulse.so.0: undefined symbol: json_tokener_parse
[12:53] <geirha> snufft: If you want it in the same direction, then yes, a new terminal.
[12:53] <geirha> snufft: Or use nautilus
[13:00] <marsfligth> How to stop all GUI services/applications like 'init 4' in Centox/Fedora?
[13:01] <yeats> marsfligth: try 'sudo stop lightdm'
[13:02] <marsfligth> Thanks, I tried it w/o success because I used 'killall X....'
[13:04] <marsfligth> yeats: sorry, sopping the DM I also close all 'X' instances?
[13:04] <yeats> marsfligth: yes
[13:04] <marsfligth> great, thanks for helping yeats
[13:04] <yeats> marsfligth: sure thing
[13:05] <k1l_> marsfligth: a logout is a x-restart
[13:05] <yeats> that too
[13:05] <IceSeven> ProblemType: Package
[13:05] <IceSeven> Architecture: amd64
[13:05] <IceSeven> Date: Thu Dec  5 15:47:14 2013
[13:05] <IceSeven> Package: cpufreqd 2.4.2-2
[13:05] <IceSeven> SourcePackage: cpufreqd
[13:05] <IceSeven> ErrorMessage:
[13:05] <IceSeven>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 134
[13:05] <FloodBot1> IceSeven: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:06] <k1l_> IceSeven: stop. use a pastebin please
[13:06] <yeats> but 'sudo restart lightdm' is more analogous to the fedora/centos init approach
[13:06] <Lajjla> ifconfig and ifconfig -a don see my eth0
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> IceSeven: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[13:06] <Lajjla> Any pointers on the issue?
[13:06] <marsfligth> I tried few times to kill 'X' but I get a sort of logout
[13:06] <yeats> Lajjla: if you're using NetworkManager (which you do on desktop by default), the interfaces are managed there
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> Lajjla: if you run:   sudo lshw -C network    you will see the interface name (if the Ethernet chip is detected)
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> IceSeven: its a single line, so pasting in here is fine
[13:07] <IceSeven> My god! I have to try install a new ubuntu system
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> IceSeven: why?
[13:08] <IceSeven> the mouse sometimes can't be use
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> IceSeven: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[13:09] <IceSeven> and after  install the Cpufreqd ,I can't install any programes
[13:09] <IceSeven> OK
[13:09] <IceSeven> I try again
[13:10] <cfhowlett> IceSeven, wait.  purge the cupfreqd then reinstall.
[13:10] <Lajjla> ActionParsnip, it does see an ethernet controller there yeah
[13:10] <Lajjla> Together with the wireless one
[13:10] <cfhowlett> and note the error messages
[13:10] <IceSeven> icesevencn@ASUS-K53SD:/$ cat /etc/issue
[13:10] <IceSeven> Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Lajjla: ok, what is the interface name of the Ethernet interface
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> !bug 1190389 | IceSeven
[13:11] <IceSeven> cfhowlett, How to purge the freqd?
[13:11] <Lajjla> ActionParsnip, it doesn't have a logical name unlike the wireless which is wlan0
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> Lajjla: could try removing then reloading the driver module using modprobe
[13:12] <cfhowlett> IceSeven, terminal command   sudo apt-get purge freqd
[13:12] <IceSeven> Thanks a lot!
[13:12] <cfhowlett> IceSeven, then sudo apt-get install freqd
[13:12] <IceSeven> I try it
[13:12] <marsfligth> by the way, I still have a problem on video adapters. If I use the embedded Intel video adapter it works, but when I try to install a Nvidia o Radeon often I get only the Bash or the 'safe boot'. I followed many guides to remove Nvidia and Ati drivers but the problem persists. OS: Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit
[13:13] <k1l_> !nomodeset | marsfligth
[13:14] <Lajjla> auronandace, I think the issue is that I have no drivers for it
[13:14] <Lajjla> ActionParsnip*
[13:15] <Romance> help, about my flashdisk, its completely hidden (even with ctrl + h) , and when i do `ls -Ra`, i found only this --> .:
[13:16] <Romance> what is .: ?
[13:16] <IceSeven> Thanks !
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Lajjla: what Ethernet controller do you have?
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Lajjla: any chance its a realtek 8111 or something?
[13:18] <Rory> Romance: Can you pastebin the output of that command so we can see?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> Romance: is it mounted?
[13:19] <Romance> Rory: ah nevermind sir, testdisk didnt do the job well, photorec is now recovering the files :D ! love photorec !!
[13:19] <Romance> ActionParsnip: yes its ok now, love photorec <3
[13:20] <marsfligth> K1rk: thanks for helping, I forgotten to say other 'symptoms', I using gnome-fallback (gnome classic) and using the embedded video adapter Intel works only with 'metcity', if I launch 'compiz' I lose menus specially in gnome terminal GUI
[13:20] <Lajjla> ActionParsnip: 'product: Killer E2200 Gigabit Ethernet Controller'
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> Romance: i suggest you maybe start backing up stuff, then you won't need photorec
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> Lajjla: ok let me search
[13:21] <Lajjla> ActionParsnip, you are too kind
[13:21] <Lajjla> You shall be rewarded handsomely at the conclusion of our voyage.
[13:21] <Romance> ActionParsnip: actually this is not my flashdisk, someone who use Windows, what can i expect, of course its infected with viruses
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> Lajjla: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2166562   seem to use the alx module
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> Romance: then you have the perfect time to educate
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> Romance: teach dumb users to backup, and why its important
[13:23] <Romance> ActionParsnip: thats why i am on my way to backup everything in my hdd to cloud storage
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Lajjla: could always use ndiswrapper I guess, there does seem to be a native driver though
[13:23] <JaredForTheWin> Has anyone noticed that Canonical released a 14.04 beta?
[13:23] <cfhowlett> !trusty
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> JaredForTheWin: yes, its also not duiscussed here. Try in #ubuntu+1
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> JaredForTheWin: why would we not notice?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> JaredForTheWin: its also not in Beta til February 2014
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> JaredForTheWin: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/ubuntu-14-04-lts-release-schedule
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> JaredForTheWin: so wherever ou heard it was in beta is incorrect
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> JaredForTheWin: it's not even in Alpha 2
[13:25]  * cfhowlett ... but - but I HEARD it on the internetz!
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: ohz noez
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> JaredForTheWin: so, where did you hear it was in beta please?
[13:26] <JaredForTheWin> ActionParsnip: I have the link to a offical download to a ISO.
[13:26] <Rory> Action "It's not discussed here" Parsnip proceeds to discuss at length the Trusty release schedule
[13:27] <cfhowlett> LOL
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> JaredForTheWin: its in Alpha now, its not in Beta for a long long time
[13:27] <Rory> JaredForTheWin: Is that possibly a daily build?
[13:27] <cfhowlett> JaredForTheWin, guaranteed that ISO is NOT beta
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> Rory: total hypocrite I know :P)
[13:27] <JaredForTheWin> Rory: Just checked, yes it is.
[13:27] <k1l_> JaredForTheWin: again: unstable support is in #ubuntu+1 and its not beta now
[13:28] <cfhowlett> JaredForTheWin, just for fun, go to #ubuntu+1 and tell THEM there's a beta available.
[13:28] <JaredForTheWin> cfhowlett: I doubt they would be happy when I said it.
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> JaredForTheWin: im in +1 if you want
[13:29] <cfhowlett> JaredForTheWin, guess what - we ain't loving it here.  but ubuntu+1 is the spot for discussing trusty so ... off you go.
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: amazingly not joined, no love lost
[13:32] <snufft> geirha, thanks heaps :)
[13:34] <Guest73621> hii
[13:34] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:35] <Guest73621> How are things?
[13:36] <thepreacher> I have ubuntu 13.10 installed on my dell xps m1530. my microphone is not working either in skype, sound recorder or simple screen recorder. I have spent 3 days on this trying anything that i find on the net. I really need to engage in a skype voice chat but I cannot do that now.
[13:36] <MrMonkey31> question> can it be supposed that linux headers of the identical architecture are going to be identical across distros?  I guess it comes down to the nature of "headers"
[13:37] <MrMonkey31> **kernel headers, this is
[13:38] <gvo> thepreacher: Have you tried pavucontrol?  Make sure you are using the right input device...
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> thepreacher: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[13:41] <philinux> thepreacher;~ there is this for skype http://m.webupd8.org/2013/10/get-sound-working-in-skype-with-ubuntu.html?m=1
[13:42] <thepreacher> ActionParsnip, the results of the command you gave is at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=cda2514087531e8776c3d93e61d460224990cdfe
[13:42] <JaredForTheWin> Hey guys, I have a problem with Ubuntu. Specifically 13.04.
[13:43] <Guest89573> hi all, using audacity on ubuntu 12.04 trying to record from flash based streams. recording works fine when listening to rhythembox but audacity sort of freezes when using a flash stream
[13:43] <JaredForTheWin> Well, when I start it up, it's like 720x800 resolution or something
[13:43] <JaredForTheWin> And I can't change it, and I tried a reinstall of Ubuntu
[13:43] <JaredForTheWin> And that didn't change it
[13:43] <thepreacher> philinux, yeah I have tried that but it never worked for me
[13:44] <philinux> thepreacher;~ ok
[13:44] <JaredForTheWin> Did anyone listen to my problem at all?
[13:45] <usr13> JaredForTheWin: What monitor do you have?
[13:45] <philinux> thepreacher;~ what about testing under sound settings. Is the correct device set to play sounds through
[13:46] <vak> there is no audio recorder preinstalled in ubuntu 13.10 to record something from microphone?..
[13:46] <JaredForTheWin> usr13: 1280x800 monitor,it's built-in to my computer (it's a laptop)
[13:46] <philinux> vak;~ sound-recorder is
[13:46] <jony_easyrider> in my Ubuntu 12.04 x64 sudenly none of the memory stick will work, what happened?
[13:46] <Guest89573> audacity and flash streams were OK in previous versions of ubuntu; anyone has this problem?
[13:47] <gvo> JaredForTheWin: This might help http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-change-display-resolution-settings-using-xrandr.html
[13:47] <vak> philinux: i see no sound-recorder by default
[13:47] <philinux> vak;~ open dash type sound
[13:48] <xeberdee> Hi all - I need a lightweight desktop. I tried e17 but I just get a grey screen and loads of install problems. which very lightweight desktop would you recommended for ubuntu?
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> thepreacher: if you run:  alsamixer   are all levels maxed and unmuted?
[13:48] <gvo> lubuntu
[13:48] <philinux> vak;~ gahh it's gnome-sound-recorder
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> thepreacher: http://www.makeuseof.com/answers/enable-sound-dell-xps-15-laptop-running-ubuntu-1004/
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> thepreacher: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingUbuntuOnADellXPSM1530
[13:49] <vak> philinux: perhaps i'm missing something gnome-sound-recorder isn't installed as well
[13:50] <gvo> xeberdee what hardware?  If fairly new, lubuntu might work.
[13:50] <philinux> vak;~ sudo apt-get install gnome-sound-recorder or use software center
[13:50] <JaredForTheWin> vak: sudo apt-get install gnome-sound-recorder
[13:50] <xeberdee> gvo: it's a shuttle xs35, with atom cpu and graphic in cpu
[13:50] <JaredForTheWin> vak: that should help you out
[13:51] <Guest89573> just for the record, im trying to record off grooveshark via audacity
[13:51] <gvo> xeberdee: I
[13:51] <vak> philinux, JaredForTheWin: i will really do so, thank you, guys. However i am wondering how could it be that this basic app is not available by default anymore...
[13:51] <gvo> xeberdee: I'd go with lubuntu
[13:52] <xeberdee> gvo: I'm running fluxbox atm, runs ok but stuff like desktop icons and file browsing are not apparently obvious.
[13:52] <yeats> !illegal | Guest89573
[13:52] <usr13> vak: arecord, aplay - command-line sound recorder and player for ALSA sound card driver
[13:52] <Guest89573> oops
[13:53] <usr13> vak: see man arecord
[13:53] <philinux> vak;~ my install was 13.04 then upgrade to 13.10
[13:53] <vak> philinux, JaredForTheWin: Unable to locate package gnome-sound-recorder -- wow
[13:53] <JaredForTheWin> vak: i'm pretty sure it's still there
[13:53] <sgp667> hey does anyone know what determines if your network sniffer is capturing all of traffic becuase I have one setup but I double it captures a lot
[13:53] <philinux> vak;~  what ubuntu you running
[13:53] <xeberdee> gvo: looks like enlightenment is still developing but I tried on several machines over several years, and it seems buggy
[13:53] <thepreacher> ActionParsnip, everything except beep, capture is maxed
[13:54] <usr13> sgp667: tcpdump
[13:54] <vak> usr13: tbh, i'd need this to my IT-unaware friends that do not use console/terminals ))
[13:54] <vak> philinux: 13.10
[13:54] <philinux> vak;~ it comes from gnome-media i  think
[13:55] <philinux> install that
[13:55] <sgp667> usr13: wow I should have known this already thanks
[13:55] <philinux> vak;~ apt-cache policy gnome-media
[13:56] <vak> philinux: JaredForTheWin: gnome-media indeed provides it. The question that remains -- why not by default :)
[13:56] <jony_easyrider> since I moved and resized some partitions, and I updated grub, none of my usb memory stick are working, please help
[13:57] <philinux> vak;~ this is installed by default http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/amd64/gnome-media/filelist
[13:57] <tomwp> need to transmit real-time video conferencing with webcam, I'm using VLC via http protocol and I can, but not via rtsp, is there any special configuration to be done?
[13:57] <vak> philinux: ok... strange...
[13:57] <philinux> vak;~ what does this say   apt-cache policy gnome-media
[13:57] <usr13> vak: NOt sure what you mean by that last comment, but if it is about avoiding console and/or terminals;  It appears to me you'd miss out on quite a lot.
[13:58] <ice9> some of the icons in the default icon theme are broken, how do I fix them?
[13:59] <vak> philinux: http://pastebin.com/eFx9CuUH
[13:59] <ObrienDave> ice9, define "broken"
[13:59] <philinux> vak;~ ok so open dash and type in sound
[13:59] <ice9> ObrienDave, looks like they doesn't exist
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> thepreacher: do the links I gave help?
[14:00] <vak> usr13: i am ok with console, but my daughter not and will not :)
[14:00] <cfhowlett> jony_easyrider, resizing and updating have nothing to do with USB.  I'd suspect your USB itself has failed.  try a different one
[14:00] <ObrienDave> ice9, try a different icon theme. not all themes have all of the same icons
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> jony_easyrider: or try a different port (if you havent already)
[14:00] <ice9> ObrienDave, I tried but the problem remains
[14:01] <vak> philinux: it is *after* apt-get install. it is ok now, I've been wondering why it was not installed from distro...
[14:01] <jony_easyrider> cfhowlett, none of my usb sticks are working in either port, and on the same machine on same USB port in windows they are working fine
[14:01] <usr13> vak: Her los....
[14:01] <vak> usr13: or gain.
[14:01] <usr13> vak: Yea, she gets you to do it for her.
[14:01] <jony_easyrider> fdisk -l shows me those sticks but they are not mounting automatically
[14:01] <philinux> vak;~ open a terminal and type in gnome-sound-recorder
[14:02] <gvo> jony_easyrider: reboot?
[14:02] <usr13> vak: So, you create scripts to do what she wont do, (so she can just click on an icon).  :)
[14:02] <jony_easyrider> gvo, did not help
[14:02] <cfhowlett> jony_easyrider, kernel upgrade recently?  try dropping down a number.
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> jony_easyrider: does:   dmesg | tail -n 15    show them in and out?
[14:02] <vak> usr13: right. That's why we stay with serving and those who can't will stick to management -- unfair, rigth ? ))
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> jony_easyrider: when you last unplugged it when it was working, did you use the safe removal feature in your OS before unplugging it?
[14:03] <jony_easyrider> yes, I safely removed it
[14:03] <jony_easyrider> and yes, I've done kernel upgrade
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> jony_easyrider: what file system is it useing?
[14:03] <jony_easyrider> how can I downgrade?
[14:03] <jony_easyrider> ActionParsnip, fat32
[14:03] <edolouglin> How do I remove the Find shortcut key  (ctrl-shift-F) in the terminal (in 13.04)?  The Search menu  entries aren't listed in with the Terminal shortcuts and it doesn't appear to be a global shortcut.
[14:03] <cfhowlett> jony_easyrider, reboot.  choose advanced options or choose older ubuntu.  login
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> jony_easyrider: have you fsck'd the partition, you can do it in Windows too. FAT32 is far from robust
[14:04] <usr13> vak: Not so much that it is unfair, I would say unfurtunate.  (I want to do things for myself, and learn, so I fill sorry for those that don't).
[14:04] <vak> philinux: it is installe and available now, i just can't figure out, how is the distro was installed if it wasn't done already...
[14:04] <cfhowlett> jony_easyrider, is this a wubi / windows installation or are you truly dualbooting?
[14:04] <usr13> *feel* (not fill)
[14:05] <vak> usr13: they learn other things that techies aren't usually good for, sometimes absolutely not good for  -- socially related stuff
[14:05] <thepreacher> ActionParsnip, because the version of ubuntu on which they are based are quite old, i'm trying to find equivalent or replacement command and applications
[14:06] <usr13> vak: social smocial
[14:06] <vak> usr13: haha, right.
[14:06] <jony_easyrider> cfhowlett, truly dual boot
[14:07] <cfhowlett> jony_easyrider, OK  try the older kernel version
[14:08] <lessless_> folks, If I my video card is manufactured by ATI, than why do I receive an 'Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory' error?
[14:10] <JaredForTheWin> lessless_ are you sure you aren't using 2 video cards?
[14:10] <JaredForTheWin> because it is possible
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> hellslinger: how do you mean "they are based on"
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> thepreacher: ahhh reread now
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> thepreacher: do they still not apply?
[14:11] <lessless_> JaredForTheWin, pretty sure http://pastie.org/8530726
[14:12] <lessless_> lspci  | grep VGA | wc -l => 1
[14:14] <koss> http://www.amazon.com/gp/socialmedia/promotions/wishlist2013?t=kdeal-20&tag=kdeal-20&ascsubtag=ExX5nl0WEeOt3UIMSvjoXwyIo3_6gvq3_2VQ_0_0
[14:15] <thepreacher> ActionParsnip, yeah they are kind of outdated as the programs and options talked about are no longer valid. BTW I tried the simplescreenrecorder program and changed the Audio Input backend from pulsaudio to alsa and it was able to record the screen and the background noise although was very faint. If alsa will work instead of pulseaudio how can I make also the default back end instead ?
[14:15] <jony_easyrider> kernel downgrade did not help, the sticks are not working :((
[14:16] <edolouglin> I can't see where to remove the ctrl-shift-F shortcut in Terminal. Any ideas?
[14:17] <JaredForTheWin> edolouglin: just don't use it and it will be the same
[14:17] <edolouglin> I need that shortcut for Emacs, so I can't just not use it.
[14:18] <molqr> a box 'A' gets its ip via dhcp .... how can i arrange so that A stores its ip on another machine B .... B has a fixed ip address so i can always query B to figure out A's ip .... or is there any other way to track the ip of a machine with dhcp addresses?
[14:18] <jony_easyrider> I will reinstall Ubuntu
[14:19] <somsip> molqr: give A a fixed IP outside of DHCP but in the same network. Works for me
[14:19] <gvo> edolouglin: Is there and option Keyboard shortcuts in your Edit menu?
[14:20] <Rory> molqr: You know the hostname of the box, call it 'foo' you can just to "host foo" and get its IP
[14:20] <molqr> somsip: i see. could you give me some more details.
[14:20] <edolouglin> gvo: The Search menu isn't listed in the shortcut editor and c-s-F isn't listed as a global shortcut either (looking via gconf)
[14:20] <Rory> molqr: For the other approach, give A a static IP the same way you gave it to B
[14:20] <molqr> Rory: thanks but what if many boxes have the same name? sorry i don't know much about networking.
[14:21] <Rory> molqr: It all depends on your dhcp server really. is it a home router?
[14:21] <somsip> molqr: change /etc/network/interfaces similar to this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6524937/
[14:21] <molqr> Rory: sorry can't do that. I am on 172.*.*.* range... do you want me to give A some ip like 10.x.y.z. ?
[14:21] <john_doe_jr> I need to remove mono and install a very specific version on my server…does anyone know how to go about doing that?
[14:21] <molqr> Rory: no it is a university network.
[14:22] <molqr> somsip: thanks will check that.
[14:22] <somsip> molqr: but you may be restricted by the DHCP server. If it doesn't allow you to allocate static in the same subnet then you will have problems
[14:22] <Rory> molqr: Can you step up a level and tell us what you want to *achieve* - because there might be a neater way of doing it
[14:23] <docente> hi to all i have a problem: the system wont upgrade more than precise pargolin, someone can help me?
[14:23] <zyzzyva> hi all, I'm trying to abort a TestDisk operation that seems to be filling an external drive with more space than I was originally trying to rescue
[14:23] <zyzzyva> not sure how to quit or if it's safe to ctrl-C
[14:24] <molqr> Rory: sorry. let me try again. boxes on my lan get ip via a DHCP server beyond my control. i want to monitor the ip of a fixed machine Foo. there are some fixed ips available. so i was hoping to have Foo write its ip to one of the fixed ip machine.
[14:25] <ObrienDave> docente, you're set to only upgrade LTS versions
[14:25] <Rory> molqr: Why not just assign foo a static IP in the first place, thus sidestepping the problem
[14:25] <docente> ObrienDave, howto unset this?
[14:25] <somsip> molqr: in that case, setup a domain (including a free one like noip or dyndns) and get the A machine to register it's internal IP. Then you can use a FQDN to access it
[14:25] <Rory> molqr: Oh yeah do that ^
[14:26] <PaRaD0xxR> Hi, I'm still trying to get print sharing working.  I've read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu I think I followed the directions there all properly, but I still can't print to a Ubuntu 12.04 lts box sharing its printer, either on xp/7 or another pc running lubuntu.  Not sure what else to check.
[14:27] <molqr> Rory: on my lan all machines have 172.a.b.c ips.... and i can not assign one of the fixed ips as the mail server, print server and ftp server are assigned the fixed ip. so these fixed ips are not availble tome for assigning to machines.
[14:27] <ObrienDave> docente, software & updates, updates, notify me of new versions, change to "for any new version"
[14:27] <tmmunq> !zentyal
[14:28] <Rory> molqr: I think you should just refer to this machine by its hostname not its IP address. That's what they're for :)
[14:28] <PaRaD0xxR> The lubuntu laptop sees the hostname of the ubuntu pc sharing the printer, and adds it just fine, but I get "cannot locate printer" when I try the test page
[14:28] <Rory> molqr: Give it a nice unique hostname
[14:28] <molqr> somsip: noip dyndns and FQDM ... will read up on them. thanks.
[14:28] <tmmunq> does anyone know any tools for benchmarking a network device? more specifically a router/firewall?
[14:29] <Rory> molqr: Find out the full hostname with "dig +short -x 1.2.3.4" where 1.2.3.4 is your current IP
[14:29] <docente> ObrienDave, already set dont' work
[14:29] <molqr> Rory: sorry but somehow i can' ever ping the machines by the hostname.. we always use ips... but of course the machines that have fixed ips.. i can ping them by hostname ... is this related to how the DHCP server is set up?
[14:29] <somsip> molqr: basically, on an IP change, machine A will run a script to update the DNS records for a domain like 'machineA.mydomain.noip.org' so you can just access it using that fixed Fully Qulified Domain Name
[14:29] <molqr> Rory: thanks will try that.
[14:30] <molqr> somsip: yes i had something like that in mind. whenever the ip of Foo changes it will write its ip via ftp to the Bar server .. that has a fixed ip.
[14:30] <Rory> for example molqr my current domain is "rory-W530.lee1.uk.odnet.co.uk" - anyone else who is part of lee1.uk.odnet.co.uk can just "ping rory-W530"
[14:30] <docente> ObrienDave, i have a terminal opened, explainj me where i can check why dist won't upgrade
[14:31] <somsip> molqr: then you'd be reinventing the wheel a bit if you did the same thing yourself. Certainly possible I would think
[14:31] <JaredForTheWin> Sometimes I wonder if Rory really is a AI..
[14:31] <molqr> somsip: yes sir. you are right. i will try to use the ones you mentioned.
[14:31] <ObrienDave> docente, i don't know if you can change that through terminal
[14:32] <Rory> JaredForTheWin: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent!
[14:32] <somsip> molqr: some reading http://www.shakabuku.org/writing/dyndns.html
[14:32] <JaredForTheWin> But you are intelligent!
[14:32] <molqr> Rory: i don't get any output when i try dig +short -x 172.26.94.222
[14:32] <molqr> somsip: thanks.
[14:34] <Firefly67> hi can anyone help me with the keyboard in ubuntu 13.10 not printing the character it is supposed to print?
[14:34] <ObrienDave> docente, try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[14:34] <Rory> Firefly67: For example...?
[14:34] <JaredForTheWin> Rory: But you are very intelligent!
[14:34] <JaredForTheWin> The internet is getting a little bit TOO smarter...
[14:34] <docente> ObrienDave, i'm doing
[14:34] <Firefly67> I had to copy-paste the hash-symbol to get into this room, for example. If I type the hash key, it produces \
[14:35] <Rory> Firefly67: Go change your keyboard layout, it's set to USA by mistake
[14:35] <JaredForTheWin> Set to USA by mistake?
[14:35] <Firefly67> I don't see any option to choose any country
[14:35] <Rory> Firefly67: Yes on a US keyboard layout, you have to type shift-3 to get hash
[14:35] <Rory> Firefly67: it doesn't have its own key without pressing shift
[14:36] <hydra7> how to add space to /home in ubuntu?
[14:36] <Firefly67> ok, what do I do to make the keyboard type what it is supposed to type?
[14:36] <JaredForTheWin> Firefly is from England. That seems to explain it.
[14:36] <Rory> hydra7: Is it a partition?
[14:36] <hydra7> Rory yes
[14:36] <Rory> hydra7: Boot from a LiveCD and use the gparted program to rearrange and resize partitions
[14:37] <Firefly67> I don't see where I choose US/UK in keyboard settings -> keyboard layout
[14:37] <hydra7> Rory: let's see
[14:37] <PaRaD0xxR> it says "Processing - Not Connected?" in the print queue
[14:38] <Firefly67> I only see switch to next source and switch to previous source
[14:39] <Firefly67> couldn't enclose the above in quotes as double quotes prints @
[14:40] <JaredForTheWin> Try typing @, then
[14:40] <philinux> Firefly67;~ system settings > keyboard then bottom left layout settings
[14:41] <Firefly67> oh, I have to click input sources to use - I choose UK?
[14:42] <Rory> Firefly67: If you have a UK keyboard then yes....
[14:42] <hydra7> Rory: can't expand from gparted
[14:42] <Firefly67> thanks Rory and philinux, now it works
[14:42] <Rory> Firefly67: Otherwise, no
[14:42] <Rory> Firefly67: £# @"
[14:42] <Firefly67> I chose English (UK)
[14:42] <Rory> Firefly67: shift 3 is £££ now?
[14:43] <Firefly67> shift-3 gives: £
[14:43] <Rory> !yay
[14:43] <JaredForTheWin> $
[14:43] <Firefly67> yay!
[14:45] <hydra7> how to merge two partitions? one is /home and another is just ext4 formatted partition both are logical partitions
[14:47] <philinux> Firefly67;~ sorted
[14:47] <ObrienDave> hydra7, you can't directly merge 2 partitions
[14:47] <hydra7> ObrienDave then how can i do it?
[14:47] <Rory> hydra7: Back up, delete them, create a new bigger one
[14:48] <[Jano]> hydra7: Use gparted
[14:48] <Rory> hydra7: What is the other partition though, is it your Ubuntu / partition?
[14:48] <hydra7> Rory: deleting /home?
[14:48] <hydra7> Rory no just a empty formatted partition
[14:48] <Rory> hydra7: Delete that one then
[14:49] <Rory> hydra7: And expand /home into that space
[14:49] <hydra7> empty one?
[14:49] <Rory> hydra7: yes
[14:49] <dondopa> Whats the handbrake commands to convert from avi to mp4 so that I can watch it on my samsung smart TV?
[14:50] <Rory> Hi dondopa this is the Ubuntu support channel
[14:50] <Rory> dondopa: you want #handbrake
[14:50] <hydra7> Rory threw an error saying something like 'We are unable to inform the kernel'
[14:50] <dondopa> thank you
[14:50] <[Jano]> dondopa: Use Avidemux
[14:51] <Rory> hydra7: err did you delete the entire partition table?
[14:51] <dondopa> Jano I specifically have to use Handbrake
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> dondopa: handbrake is a GUI application, so there are no commands for it. Its a clickable application
[14:51] <hydra7> Rory i just selected it and deleted
[14:51] <dondopa> handbrake-cli
[14:51] <PaRaD0xxR> hmm..tried just a dummyfile to print, stuck at "getting printer information"
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> dondopa: http://andrebluehs.net/blog/converting-avi-to-mp4-with-ffmpeg/    why not use ffmpeg
[14:51] <Rory> hydra7: OK that's fine then, have you resized your home partition into the now free space?
[14:51] <dondopa> I have to use Handbrake specifically the command-line one
[14:51] <Rory> dondopa: Why?
[14:52] <dondopa> because my dad insists that I use the stupid complicated Command line version
[14:52] <hydra7> Rory no resize option for home partition
[14:52] <Rory> hydra7: Can you take a screenshot?
[14:52] <hydra7> okay wait Rory
[14:52] <Rory> dondopa: Go ask #handbrake they would love to answer your question
[14:52] <dondopa> I am in there
[14:53] <norabbit> salut
[14:53] <Rory> !fr | norabbit
[14:54] <hydra7> Rory http://imgur.com/ytU2b89
[14:54] <Rory> hydra7: Which one is your home partition, sda7?
[14:55] <Rory> sda5*
[14:55] <cfhowlett> dondopa, you have a very good dad!
[14:55] <hydra7> yes sd5 Rory
[14:55] <hydra7> *sda
[14:55] <dondopa> Whatever..
[14:55] <Rory> OK well there's not much you can really do hydra7
[14:55] <Rory> hydra7: You can't resize it because /dev/sda7 is in the way
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> dondopa: https://trac.handbrake.fr/wiki/CLIGuide
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> dondopa: I'd just get ffmpeg installed, ista tonne easier
[14:55] <Rory> hydra7: You could back up the contents of /dev/sda7 and delete it, then delete that swap partition
[14:56] <dondopa> ffmpeg is slower than handbrake
[14:56] <dondopa> accordingto my dad
[14:56] <Rory> hydra7: then you could resize /dev/sda5 as big as you like, and recreate the ntfs partition again
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> dondopa: http://wdtvforum.com/main/index.php?topic=1114.0
[14:56] <Rory> dondopa: Why don't you go ask your dad?
[14:56] <hydra7> Rory can i create swap partition too?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> dondopa: yeah but all this time wasted getting the commands right......
[14:56] <dondopa> I am supposed to find out on my own
[14:56] <Rory> hydra7: yes but you can see, can't you, that you can't resize /dev/sda5 because there's no room
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> dondopa: I'm sure we are talking minutes of difference in result
[14:56] <dondopa> If I asked him he would scold me
[14:56] <Rory> hydra7: Imagine they are real physical sliders, and use your intuition
[14:57] <balintant> hi
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> dondopa: good that you are being made to find out though, you can script it to abstract it to a single command when you get the actual command
[14:57] <balintant> I need some help: I have a mining pc and I manage it from TeamViewer
[14:57] <hydra7> okay let's see will be back in a moment
[14:57] <cfhowlett> balintant, mining - as in bitcoin?
[14:58] <Juunas> Hey everybody :) I have a "problem" when I'm booting to ubuntu. I got this error message: usb 6-1: string descriptor 0 read error: -22. So, I'm just thinking that could somebody help me with this problem?
[14:58] <balintant> last time, I went to Terminal mode (CTRL + ALT + F1) from TeamViewer
[14:58] <balintant> and mining stopped (yes - litecoin)
[14:58] <dman777_alter> is deadsnakes repository safe to install python 2.7 on lucid?
[14:58] <balintant> I've got this message when I tried to restart: http://imgur.com/k70MbT2
[14:58] <balintant> BUT this is not the problem
[14:58] <balintant> I restarted the PC
[14:59] <balintant> and now I can't sign in to my account
[14:59] <cfhowlett> dman777_alter, NO idea but I trust no snakes
[14:59] <balintant> only to the quest
[15:00] <balintant> i am angry now, so if somebody can help me, I'll be back in 5 minutes (smoking)
[15:00] <Rory> balintant: What happens when you try to sign in?
[15:01] <balintant> Got black screen and than the login window again
[15:01] <power> hello
[15:01] <power> help needed
[15:01] <balintant> (I am using Xubuntu, if that matters(
[15:01] <Rory> !details | power
[15:01] <Rory> balintant: Do you have ssh access to the box?
[15:01] <balintant> I installed
[15:01] <balintant> but I haven't have time to configure it yet
[15:01] <balintant> open-ssh screen
[15:01] <power> there is this script abcefghijk.sh assume it will echo "hyii $1" i want to make an alias alias ab="~./abcdefghijk.sh" then $ab tarun   then it show hyii tarun
[15:02] <power> but it is showing undefined ab
[15:03] <Rory> power: How did you create the alias?
[15:03] <yeats> power: if I'm understanding correctly, you're typing "$ab tarun"?  try "ab tarun"
[15:03] <power> no
[15:03] <PaRaD0xxR> getting frustrated, both win7 and lubuntu can see the printer, but can't get anything to actually print, any ideas?  ubuntu 12.04 lts
[15:03] <power> i tried ab tarun only in the terminal
[15:03] <power> "ab tarun"
[15:03] <Rory> power: How did you create the alias?
[15:04] <power> @Rory alias ab="~./abcdefghijk.sh"
[15:04] <power> in terminal
[15:04] <Rory> OK power it will only work for the rest of that terminal session
[15:04] <Rory> power: If you want it to work forever you need to put it in the file ~/.bash_alises
[15:05] <power> i placed it in ~/.bashrc
[15:05] <power> nothing happen
[15:05] <power> still
[15:05] <power> undefined ab
[15:05] <Rory> power: what is the output of: type ab
[15:05] <Rory> That's fine too. Could you put your .bashrc file on http://paste.ubuntu.com and let us know the URL
[15:05] <aaronmehar> Hello
[15:06] <power> means?
[15:06] <Rory> power: type the following in the terminal and press Enter, let me know what it says: type ab
[15:06] <aaronmehar> quick question fellow Ubunutuers, does being in  a RAID 5 give the drives any more stress than if I had 4 seperate disks?
[15:07] <JaredForTheWin> I don't know, I never did RAID
[15:07] <power> bash: type: opencv: not found
[15:07] <Rory> power: why opencv ?
[15:07] <yeats> power: your alias definition is wrong: alias ab="~./abcdefghijk.sh" should be alias ab="~/abcdefghijk.sh"
[15:07] <power> here opencv==ab
[15:07] <Rory> power: Could you put your .bashrc file on http://paste.ubuntu.com and let us know the URL
[15:07] <yeats> power: stick to your original example naming
[15:07] <balintant> Im back
[15:08] <balintant> Rory, do you have any idea?
[15:08] <balintant> I should reset the graphic configuration files for my account, I think
[15:08] <balintant> but I don't know how to do that
[15:08] <Rory> balintant: Yes in particular delete the file ~/.Xauthority
[15:08] <neyder_> hi there I have problems after upgrading this oem-wireless-rt2x00-1044172-dkms_20120910compatwirelessstella6_all.deb
[15:09] <Rory> neyder_: What problems?
[15:09] <neyder_> dmks returns error 10
[15:09] <Rory> neyder_: Can you put the full error output on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:09] <Rory> balintant: ssh into the box, and run "rm ~/.Xauthority"
[15:10] <power> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6525149/
[15:10] <balintant> cool, thank you :D
[15:10] <balintant> it is logging it
[15:10] <balintant> in
[15:10] <balintant> without black screen
[15:10] <balintant> :D
[15:10] <JaredForTheWin> Rory: When I did that, I couldn't logon
[15:10] <FloodBot1> balintant: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:10] <Rory> power: That's not an alias, that is a function defined in that file...
[15:10] <yeats> power: that's not an alias - that's a function
[15:10] <power> when alias wa snot working
[15:10] <power> i made it
[15:10] <power> still not working
[15:11] <Rory> power: Can you just put the following in that file
[15:11] <Rory> alias ab="~/abcdefghijk.sh
[15:11] <balintant> Rory, thanks man! Everything is working now!
[15:11] <Rory> power: sorry: alias ab="~/abcdefghijk.sh"
[15:11] <Rory> power: and then run "source .bashrc"
[15:12] <JaredForTheWin> I wonder if Rory is a bit TOO intelligent...
[15:12] <balintant> btw, can you help me settings up SSH? :)
[15:12] <balintant> I don't want to use it with TeamViewer anymore, but I have to check it from my phone sometimes
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> balintant: install openssh-server on the server side, connect with client
[15:12] <balintant> it's done
[15:12] <power> OKAY
[15:12] <balintant> but it can't join
[15:12] <power> its done
[15:12] <Rory> power: Now does it work?
[15:12] <balintant> I want to join from cellular network
[15:12] <power> source bashrc
[15:12] <power> it worked
[15:13] <power> but why alias was not working?
[15:13] <Rory> power: Because you probably typed it wrong.
[15:13] <Rory> power: You never showed us, so we'll never know
[15:13] <balintant> I can join if I am on localhost
[15:13] <Rory> balintant: Where is this machine?
[15:13] <power> give me a sec
[15:13] <balintant> so I think, I should change the configurations of my router
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> balintant: sure, its a bit pointles, but yes
[15:13] <balintant> at my friend's house
[15:13] <Rory> balintant: yes you need to forward port 22 on your friend's router, to the IP address of that machine on his network
[15:14] <balintant> okay
[15:14] <balintant> I'm trying it
[15:14] <Lajjla> ActionParsnip my gratitude is beyond bounds, your google skills far exceed my own
[15:14] <balintant> and can I make a domain (.dyndns?) which automatically links to my IP address?
[15:14] <balintant> if the computer is turned on?
[15:14] <balintant> I have dynamic IP address
[15:14] <neyder_> Rory, pastebin.ubuntu.com/6525165
[15:15] <Rory> balintant: Look into dynamic dns services, this is getting a bit offtopic now
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> Lajjla: i use duckduckgo mainly but googleis a good fallback
[15:15] <balintant> Rory, would you mind if I send you a PM?
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Lajjla: :) as long as you get the gold, its all good to ne
[15:16] <neyder_> Rory and this is make.log http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6525170
[15:16] <Lajjla> ActionParsnip really?
[15:16] <Lajjla> That thing showed up on my computer
[15:17] <Lajjla> I wondered what it was
[15:17] <Rory> balintant: I would actually, I need to get on with some work now.
[15:17] <balintant> okay, thanks :D
[15:17] <Rory> balintant: Try #techsupport channel on irc.snoonet.org
[15:17] <balintant> than I don't disturb you
[15:17] <balintant> okay, :)))
[15:17] <JaredForTheWin> Rory: What if he's using a IRC client?
[15:17] <power> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6525180/
[15:19] <Rory> JaredForTheWin: what? of course he's using an IRC client, we all are, this is IRC...
[15:20]  * ObrienDave ponders WebChat ;P
[15:20] <Rory> Webchat killed IRC
[15:20] <gabmus> hello everybody
[15:20] <Rory> I reckon 90% of people on Freenode right now can't even *spell* IRC
[15:21] <gabmus> i have a question about realtek hd audio drivers on ubuntu 13.10: are they really needed anymore for hd audio? anyway, i read online that the normall installation via the install script provided by realtek messes up alsa resulting in no sound. what can you suggest me?
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> lelele: what thing?
[15:21] <Mongo44> Whats the terminal called you get when you press ctrl+alt+F1?
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: tty1
[15:23] <neyder_> I have problem upgrading an oem driver oem_wireless_rt2x00 http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6525165 http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6525170
[15:23] <power> can anyone help? Rory? please ^_^
[15:23] <alexjohnson> Hello everyone. I need some help...
[15:23] <power> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6525180/
[15:23] <JaredForTheWin> I'm seeing so many people joining with IRC clients (not Webchat) and not just on here!
[15:23] <alexjohnson> Configuring 2 lan cards on ubuntu
[15:23] <Mongo44> I can't figure out how to use it. I always have to hard shutdown because I can't figure out what to do.
[15:23] <Fudus> gabmus: realtek sound seems to work without it in 13.10
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: sudo shutdown -h now     will shutdown the system
[15:24] <alexjohnson> May someone assist me doing it?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> alexjohnson: are you using a GUI based OS, or server?
[15:24] <alexjohnson> server
[15:24] <gabmus> Fudus: yes, but if i plug my headphones in the pc port, the sound is really low. dont know if it is a hardware limit or a driver lack
[15:24] <Fudus> sudo shutdown now
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> alexjohnson: install wicd-curses and use that, or you can use /etcv/network/interfaces file
[15:25] <Magellanicus> hi anyone using empathy?
[15:25] <power> okay last help
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> alexjohnson: /etc/network/interfaces  sorry
[15:25] <power> i made some changes in bashrc
[15:25] <power> are they permanent?
[15:25] <Magellanicus> how can i see the channel list for freenode in empathy?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> power: yes, if it's the one in $HOME then yes, the file is rerad every timme you lauch a terminal
[15:26] <gabmus> Magellanicus, why dont you just use gnome xchat instead?
[15:26] <Mongo44> I can't figure out how to log in to the terminal, so I don't think I would be able to issue commands.
[15:26] <power> okay thank you
[15:26] <Fudus> gabmus:sound settings doesn't help? putting on gain for the headphone output
[15:27] <gabmus> Fudus: it gets distorted if i get over 100%
[15:28] <Fudus> Try disabling Replaygain, or enabling it if it is already on?
[15:28] <Mongo44> What are some other windows compatibility programs besides wine? I would like to install some old Win95 games.
[15:28] <gabmus> wait, what?
[15:30] <iptable> Mongo44: wine or virtualise windows. Try playonlinux - prepares wine for you for a nice amount of apps
[15:31] <gabmus> fudus: what is sound settings? what package is it i mean? the only sound settings i know are the ones from gnome-control-center
[15:31] <iptable> Mongo44: so would I ... But sadly that doesn't happen too well... Don't expect miracles. Even windows doesn't support those any more.
[15:31] <Fudus> What musicplayer are you using? Rhythmbox doesn't seem to have it
[15:31] <gabmus> banshee
[15:31] <sandman13> how to create a home folder after installing the os
[15:31] <munz> yes Mongo44 i agree w/ iptable you can try virtualbox and make a win95machine in it
[15:32] <munz> install win95 apps there
[15:32] <Fudus> Look around in plugins or prefs in it and disable replaygain or enable if it is on
[15:32] <gabmus> anyway, the problem occurs for every sound, so for games to
[15:32] <geirha> sandman13: What do you mean? you want to create a new user?
[15:32] <Fudus> oh ok then
[15:32] <Fudus> nm :P
[15:32] <gabmus> and lack of powerful audio is bad in tf2
[15:33] <philinux> sandman13;~ it should have created one
[15:33] <smoores> my vmail maildirs are being limited to 2 weeks of email. #postfix and #dovecot both said it's not there fault. sounds like something on my system is autopruning my virtual maildirs but I haven't installed anything like that. Is this an ubuntu 'feature'?
[15:33] <gabmus> i tought about drivers just today... so, lets get back to them, could they solve my problem or screw up my system?
[15:33] <Fudus> I have realtek audio and it is fine when I use headphones, so i can't help
[15:33] <gabmus> fudus: i have an asus p8z77-v lx mobo, whats yours
[15:34] <sandman13> philinux: i deleted it accidently while resizing :( but had my data backed up :)
[15:34] <philinux> sandman13;~ you mean you had it on it's own partition and deleted the partition
[15:35] <ctcb> I have a probably with my 8GB USB Stick, when I try to format it in Ubuntu, it does nothing at all, I can remove and add files myself, but I want it cleared. When I open GParted, it thinks the USB Drive is "Linux-Swap"
[15:35] <gabmus> well, i guess i have to ask on 4chan.org/g
[15:35] <sandman13> philinux yes. do you want to view the snapshot of gparted after the deletion?
[15:35] <Magellanicus> i like to use empathy
[15:35] <Magellanicus> thats why i dont use xchat
[15:35] <Magellanicus> how can i see the channel list with empathy
[15:35] <Magellanicus> ?
[15:35] <FloodBot1> Magellanicus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:36] <Mongo44> I was able to install Oregon Trail II with wine, and it runs good.
[15:36] <Fudus> gabmus:http://askubuntu.com/questions/125235/headphones-very-quiet-with-realtek-alc663-intel-hda-82801ji/140146#140146
[15:36] <Fudus> Maxym assisted me in finding the correct answer. In his case, the speaker was becoming muted. I had checked for that previously, but he lead me to consider the levels of seemingly unrelated items.
[15:36] <Fudus> I eventually found that my "Bass Speaker" was set to 0 by default, but is actually mapped to my headphone jack. The level has no effect through the laptop speakers, but it is actually the headphone volume.
[15:37] <Fudus> oops
[15:37] <gabmus> thanks, lets see if it works
[15:37] <philinux> sandman13;~ you could try creating /home then getting it's uuid and editing /etc/fstab from a live cd
[15:38] <philinux> sandman13;~ not even sure that would work
[15:38] <sandman13> philinux: i am right now in live mode
[15:38] <philinux> sandman13;~ worth a shot - if not its a reinstall
[15:39] <arun_> hello guys, I don't get my plymouth working
[15:39] <lelele> why did they make xml files look so ugly?
[15:39] <sandman13> command philinux i suck at terminal
[15:39] <Rory> !fstab | sandman13 a good start
[15:40] <sandman13> philinux: here have a look at it: http://imgur.com/vNvSjMw
[15:40] <ctcb> I need help with my USB Stick.
[15:40] <gabmus> dont get what i should look for on alsamixer
[15:41] <ctcb> I have a probably with my 8GB USB Stick, when I try to format it in Ubuntu, it does nothing at all, I can remove and add files myself, but I want it cleared. When I open GParted, it thinks the USB Drive is "Linux-Swap", now somehow GParted has made two USB Sticks from my one stick.
[15:41] <philinux> sandman13;~ well once you create /home you then need sudo blkid to get its uuid then edit /etc/fstab on your hard drive and check the uuid's match
[15:41] <gordonjcp> ctcb: use dd to zero out the first few blocks of the stick, then repartition
[15:41] <ozberk> hi guys how canI calibrate a new notebook baterry
[15:42] <ctcb> gordonjcp, How do I do that? I'm not that tech savvy on things like this.
[15:42] <philinux> sandman13;~ if too difficult then reinstall from the livecd
[15:42] <CatKiller> ozberk: Refer to the manual? That's not really something related to ubuntu
[15:42] <CatKiller> ozberk: Usually you charge it fully then discharge it fully then recharge it fully. But that depends of the battery
[15:43] <ozberk> I had tried it with arch linuyx but it decharged in 1 or two hours and I guess I will be using it ubuntu or one of
[15:43] <ozberk> vait
[15:43] <CatKiller> OK but what's the relation with the calibration?
[15:43] <ozberk> wait a sec how can I get support with my batery
[15:43] <Fudus> gabmus with the headphones plugged in try increasing various things in alsamixer to see if it helps
[15:43] <gabmus> Fudus, already tried, no changes
[15:43] <CatKiller> ozberk: Does the battery discharge as fast on another OS?
[15:43] <ozberk> the battery is new it shouldn't decharge that fast
[15:43] <ozberk> yes
[15:44] <CatKiller> ok then good luck with that :p
[15:44] <sandman13> okay philinux latter one seems the backup plan let's see the first one though
[15:44] <ozberk> it's decharged %0 now it has charging almost four hours and green light shown up
[15:44] <adamu777> Hello
[15:44] <sandman13> ozberk: charge to 100% and continue discharging until it can't power on anymore
[15:45] <ainx> help please
[15:45] <ozberk> sandman13:I did
[15:45] <ainx> how to verify the gpg key?
[15:45] <ainx> on raring 13.04
[15:46] <ozberk> now how man y hour do I need to charge it that's what I asked
[15:46] <ctcb> gordonjcp?
[15:46] <Fudus> gpg --verify blah.asc
[15:48] <sandman13> ozberk: charge until it's full 100%
[15:50] <ozberk> sandman13: the green light is shown up now I will install xubuntu or one of devirates of ubuntu  ( accutaly ubuntu vanillia is a bit laggy )
[15:52] <philinux> ainx;~ what error message you got
[15:52] <gabmus> so, if anyone has ideas http://boards.4chan.org/g/res/38517583
[15:53] <ainx> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net raring Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4B6DCB2258043CFF
[15:57] <ObrienDave> ainx, http://www.apinpratap.com/how-to-fix-gpg-error-%E2%80%9Cno_pubkey%E2%80%9D/
[15:57] <ainx> ok thx
[15:58] <azlan> malay girl
[15:59] <Eli-5dce> Is ArticSun around?
[16:04] <user137> hallo
[16:04] <user137> is anyone there
[16:04] <user137> plese answer mw
[16:05] <k1l_> *sigh*
[16:06] <user137> hallo i need help i wont to know why did ubuntu create two boot par4titions insted of one
[16:07] <k1l_> user137: can you show a "sudo fdisk -l" (which is a low case L) in a pastebin please?
[16:07] <user137> how do i do theat
[16:09] <Neeke> Hi
[16:09] <Neeke> How r u ?
[16:10] <spikey360> Neeke, how is who?
[16:10] <user137> i am a beginer with ubuntu but i had it on this computer an drive before but after i did an uefi instalation i have now one fat32 uefi boot partition and one extf2 boot partition and one crypt-luks partition
[16:12] <user137> i am a beginer with ubuntu but i had it on this computer an drive before but after i did an uefi instalation i have now one fat32 uefi boot partition and one extf2 boot partition and one crypt-luks partition why is it that i have two boot partitions?
[16:13] <user137> hallo for anyone there i have a question i am a beginer with ubuntu but i had it on this computer an drive before but after i did an uefi instalation i have now one fat32 uefi boot partition and one extf2 boot partition and one crypt-luks partition why is it that i have two boot partitions?
[16:13] <ctcb> Okay, once I've zeroed out my USB Stick, it doesn't appear at all, and some strange non-existant drive called 8.5GB Volume is in my devices.
[16:14] <Gorash_> Hi! sudo apt-get upgrade   >> Grub package gives me: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `/dev/disk/by-id/ata-QEMU_HARDDISK_QM00001'.
[16:14] <ctcb> When I try to format my 8.5GB Volume, it says it is a partition on my 1TB Hard Drive.
[16:16] <user137> Hallo i need help i have a question i am a beginer with ubuntu but i had it on this computer and this hard drive before but after i did an uefi installation i have now one fat32 uefi boot partition and one extf2 boot partition and one crypt-luks partition why is it that i have two boot partitions?
[16:17] <user137> Hallo i need help i have a question i am a beginer with ubuntu but i had it on this computer and this hard drive before but after i did an uefi installation i have now one fat32 uefi boot partition and one extf2 boot partition and one crypt-luks partition why is it that i have two boot partitions?
[16:18] <mediawork> in ubuntu are we expected to edit the fstab directly?
[16:18] <mediawork> or is there some preferred tool to do this?
[16:18] <user137> Hallo i need help i have a question i am a beginer with ubuntu but i had it on this computer and this hard drive before but after i did an uefi installation i have now one fat32 uefi boot partition and one extf2 boot partition and one crypt-luks partition why is it that i have two boot partitions?
[16:19] <ObrienDave> !patience | user137
[16:20] <ctcb> Any chance of somebody helping me with my USB Stick problem? I have no other way of putting Windows 8 back on my laptop.
[16:21] <aasirc> ctcb what's the trouble?
[16:21] <ctcb> I'll paste it again.
[16:21] <aasirc> ta
[16:21] <ctcb> Okay, once I've zeroed out my USB Stick, it doesn't appear at all, and some strange non-existant drive called 8.5GB Volume is in my devices.
[16:21] <ctcb> When I try to format my 8.5GB Volume, it says it is a partition on my 1TB Hard Drive.
[16:22] <aasirc> can you paste a fdsik -l ?
[16:22] <aasirc> on a pastebin not here.
[16:22] <ObrienDave> fdisk -l
[16:23] <aptget> hello
[16:23] <aptget> need help here
[16:23] <ctcb> aasirc, http://pastebin.com/jUqCfNR6
[16:24] <CarlFK> aptget: just ask
[16:24] <aasirc> ctcb /dev/sdb is your pen. now, what do you need?
[16:24] <ObrienDave> ctcb, sdb is your USB stick
[16:25] <ctcb> aasirc, I can't format sdb or Ubuntu can't detect it.
[16:25] <aasirc> ok
[16:25] <aasirc> do you want it fat?
[16:25] <aasirc> ntfs? else?
[16:25] <ctcb> aasirc, Like, I can't do anything right now because it doesn't show up.
[16:26] <aasirc> ctcb it's normal, you need to format it first.
[16:26] <aasirc> what you want to use it for?
[16:26] <ctcb> aasirc, I need to write an ISO to it and boot it to install Windows 8.1 Enterprise.
[16:26] <onizu> hi
[16:26] <aasirc> ctcb is it more than 4GB?
[16:27] <ctcb> The ISO is 3.3GB.
[16:27] <ctcb> The Pendrive is 8GB.
[16:27] <onizu> hi. does anyone know the hotkey for toggling between EN and RU input on ubuntu 13.10 ?
[16:27] <aasirc> ok, the pendrive counts.
[16:27] <ctcb> aasirc, I'm confused because when I have my USB Drive out, it shows this: http://i.imgur.com/slKSlhb.png
[16:27] <mediawork> anyone know a nice web interface to git,  a git webserver.
[16:27] <aasirc> ctcb format it ntfs , looking for guide since I'm not on linux right now
[16:27] <mediawork> ?
[16:28] <aasirc> ctcb did you try format it from there? right click or something?
[16:28] <deserteagle> hello everyone
[16:28] <aasirc> ctcb http://askubuntu.com/questions/68809/how-to-format-a-usb-or-external-drive
[16:28] <ActionPa1snip> deserteagle: howdy
[16:29] <xauth> Shouldn't you just dd the iso to /dev/sdb?
[16:29] <ctcb> aasirc, It comes up about Partition 3 of 1.0TB Hard Drive.
[16:29] <ctcb> If I try that.
[16:29] <aasirc> then it's not it
[16:29] <deserteagle> what should the output of this be? echo 'testing this thing' | sed '/testing/,/thing/p'
[16:29] <ctcb> aasirc, That only appeared when I tried to format it the first time.
[16:29] <aasirc> ctcb follow that guide and remember that your pendrive is SDB
[16:29] <mediawork> gitorious looks good, but it is proprietary
[16:30] <aasirc> ctcb ok?
[16:30] <ctcb> This is all so confusing.
[16:31] <aasirc> ctcb nothing confusing about it. you just need to prepare the usb pen to receive data. that's called formatting. the guide I linked you explains it clearly.
[16:31] <ObrienDave> ctcb, it gets easier eventually :)
[16:31] <ctcb> aasirc, http://i.imgur.com/hZx8sat.png
[16:31] <ctcb> That didn't appear before I started trying to format this drive.
[16:32] <aasirc> ctcb your pen is SDB not SDA
[16:32] <ctcb> I might of accidentally made that or something.
[16:32] <ObrienDave> ctcb, top right, select sdb in dropdown
[16:32] <aasirc> ctcb if you are a windews user that it's like C:\ and D:\ , two different drives.
[16:33] <aasirc> mediawork tried this? https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Gitweb
[16:33] <deserteagle> does anyone know sed?
[16:33] <deserteagle> apparently mine doesn't work right
[16:33] <aasirc> deserteagle better off with #sed
[16:33] <deserteagle> :O
[16:33] <deserteagle> k, thanks
[16:33] <aasirc> np :)
[16:33]  * deserteagle didn't know they had their own channel... uh oh
[16:33] <aasirc> eh
[16:33] <user137> Hallo i need help i have a question i am a beginer with ubuntu but i had it on this computer and this hard drive before but after i did an uefi installation i have now one fat32 uefi boot partition and one extf2 boot partition and one crypt-luks partition why is it that i have two boot partitions?
[16:34] <mediawork> aasirc,  only thing, gitweb seems so basic.  -- I was wondering if gitlab is better
[16:34] <aasirc> mediawork never used one, sorry.
[16:34] <user137> can anyone help me Hallo i need help i have a question i am a beginer with ubuntu but i had it on this computer and this hard drive before but after i did an uefi installation i have now one fat32 uefi boot partition and one extf2 boot partition and one crypt-luks partition why is it that i have two boot partitions?
[16:34] <mediawork> http://demo.gitlab.com/sandbox/six     this is gitlab.
[16:35] <mediawork> looks good, have to try it out a bit,
[16:36] <mediawork> strange that gitlab is not in the ubuntu repo.
[16:37] <prashant_123456> any dvd burining tool with multisession support ?
[16:37] <user137> Hallo i need help i have a question i am a beginer with ubuntu but i had it on this computer and this hard drive before but after i did an uefi installation i have now one fat32 uefi boot partition and one extf2 boot partition and one crypt-luks partition why is it that i have two boot partitions?
[16:37] <ObrienDave> ctcb, sda3 is probably your Win8 recovery partition. it is NOT your pendrive
[16:37] <ctcb> ObrienDave, It wasn't there before today.
[16:37] <ctcb> I've used gparted before.
[16:38] <nils-> how do I disable ureadahead?
[16:38] <ObrienDave> k
[16:39] <e_t_> user137: The EFI boot partition has the files to load GRUB from EFI, then the /boot partition has your kernel and ramdisk for booting your system proper.
[16:40] <e_t_> GRUB doesn't know how to decrypt the encrypted partition, so it needs to load the kernel and ramdisk from unencrypted storage.
[16:49] <kn0thing> Hey guys, I have a broken ubuntu 13.10 install using a raid. I'm trying to revive it using switch_root but for some reason switch_root isn't taking my arguments, any thoughts? I'm using switch_root /tmp/blah /sbin/init (/tmp/blah is where i mounted /)
[16:54] <Guest63468> .xchat2/budus.so
[16:54] <Guest24619> hello
[16:55] <ctcb> ObrienDave, So I got the drive to format, but when I went and did "sudo dd bs=4M if=W81.iso of=/dev/sdb", and went back to gparted, the drive was unallocated, and I couldn't put a "boot" flag on it.
[17:00] <ctcb> Okay would somebody be able to help me? I've formatted my USB drive, and went in to gparted and set it to ntfs and with the flag "boot", then I went in to terminal and put "sudo dd bs=4M if=W81.iso of=/dev/sdb", which should write my Windows 8.1 ISO to my USB Stick. But when I go back to gparted, it's set as unallocated, and I can't put a "boot" flag without formatting it again.
[17:00] <t7_> hi guys
[17:00] <t7_> does anyone use pci passthrough for windows games?
[17:00] <NeoID> hi, anyone seen this problem before with mdadm and has any idea if the data can be saved? http://i.imgur.com/Fg7vPkU.jpg
[17:00] <DRice7>  Anyone wanna take a look at my Xorg.0.log to help me out with a No Screens issue on a headless box? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6525592/
[17:02] <mwiz> hi i have a shopping list of things i want to do on my linux box
[17:02] <mwiz> i think i'll take a crack at it and ask here if i run into any questions
[17:02] <mwiz> thanks in advance
[17:03] <ActionPa1snip> NeoID: have you fsck'd the file system?
[17:03] <ctcb> Okay would somebody be able to help me? I've formatted my USB drive, and went in to gparted and set it to ntfs and with the flag "boot", then I went in to terminal and put "sudo dd bs=4M if=W81.iso of=/dev/sdb", which should write my Windows 8.1 ISO to my USB Stick. But when I go back to gparted, it's set as unallocated, and I can't put a "boot" flag without formatting it again.
[17:03] <ActionPa1snip> ctcb: just boot the stick, should be ok
[17:04] <ctcb> ActionPa1snip, tried that, it didn't boot, just went straight in to Ubuntu again.
[17:05] <ActionPa1snip> ctcb: could borrow a friends PC to get this done?
[17:05] <jhutchins> ctcb: When you used dd to write to the device, you overwrote the partition table and formatted filesystem.
[17:06] <ctcb> ActionPa1snip, I don't have real life friends.
[17:06] <jhutchins> ctcb: Where did you get the w8.1 iso?
[17:06] <ctcb> jhutchins, how else can I write the iso to the drive?
[17:06] <subz3r0> ctcb: just format the stick as you did. then extrac the iso to the stick. thats it.
[17:06] <subz3r0> dont forget the bootflag...
[17:08] <jhutchins> A bootable installer image is typically written directly to the device, not a partition, and includes an MBR.
[17:08] <ctcb> subz3r0, I'm not sure how I actually open the iso to copy the things to the USB Stick.
[17:08] <jhutchins> ctcb: Where did you get the w8.1 iso?
[17:08] <ctcb> jhutchins, Microsoft.
[17:09] <jhutchins> ctcb: Do they not have instructions on how to create a bootable USB?
[17:09] <kn0thing> Hey, anyone have any idea why i'd have an initramfs pointing at a /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxx when it turns out that the /dev/disk/by-uuid doesn't exist?
[17:09] <jhutchins> ctcb: How you treat the file is determined by how they set it up.
[17:09] <daftykins> ctcb: there is an MS program for making bootable win8 USB flash drives
[17:09] <ctcb> They basically say write it to a USB Drive or DVD.
[17:09] <ctcb> Since my laptop doesn't have an optical drive at all, the second option is out of the picture.
[17:09] <subz3r0> why you guys just confusing him?
[17:09] <daftykins> ctcb: however, 8.1 is mostly designed for EFI boot, so you won't need anything other than the ISO contents to be extracted to the drive
[17:10] <ctcb> daftykins, I don't know how to open the ISO.
[17:10] <subz3r0> ctcb: format the stick as ntfs and give the bootflag
[17:10] <subz3r0> then extract the .iso file with your favourite extractor
[17:10] <subz3r0> you can open the iso like a .rar or .zip  archive
[17:10] <jhutchins> subz3r0: WHere does the MBR come from then?
[17:11] <subz3r0> jhutchins: ask your favourite search engine..
[17:11] <subz3r0> ctcb: "file roller" does the trick...
[17:11] <subz3r0> standard ubuntu extractor ... ;)
[17:12] <daftykins> making up a win8.1 USB as subz3r0 is recommending works only for UEFI installs, *not* legacy ones. you'd have to make up the drive a different way to work for those
[17:12] <subz3r0> pm me the result if it worked.... no time to scroll up x lines .... doing the dishes atm...
[17:13] <snorlax> hey all... got a really stupid question.
[17:13] <daftykins> typically the 8.1 ISO has a /boot folder with a bootsect.exe program to write the boot sector to a flash drive to make it boot correctly in legacy mode
[17:13] <snorlax> how do I restart gnome on gnome-ubuntu?
[17:13] <Rory> snorlax: sudo service gdm restart
[17:13] <snorlax> hm tried that. let me try again.
[17:13] <Rory> snorlax: do it from another terminal (ctrl-alt-f1)
[17:14] <snorlax> ah ok. that was the problem.
[17:14] <snorlax> now I have an error this is good.
[17:14] <jhutchins> ctcb: Looks like they're right, this is a different kind of iso than linux installers use.  http://www.plop.at/en/winusbinstall.html <- pretty complete directions.
[17:14] <snorlax> something crashed hard, and gnome stopped. It warned me about sending a crash notice, and now its in low graphics mode.
[17:14] <snorlax> might just need a reboot.
[17:14] <snorlax> thanks rory.
[17:14] <Rory> snorlax: yeah, solves 99% of intermittent issues
[17:15] <subz3r0> daftykins: UEFI installs?
[17:15] <snorlax> i don't really need gnome on this box, but I like to look at configs using gedit.
[17:15] <subz3r0> ehh?
[17:15] <subz3r0> did you ever test it?
[17:16] <Rory> snorlax: you can install gedit without installing the entirity of Gnome
[17:16] <subz3r0> i did it x times with windows 7 with NON UEFI
[17:17] <Orioa> does anyone know if they are working on the login screen bug for the newest version of xubuntu so that you are able to change the background
[17:17] <Guest70826> oi
[17:17] <Guest70826> hello
[17:17] <Guest70826> i want sex
[17:17] <compdoc> no thank you
[17:17] <snorlax> Rory: yea. I might do that. I'm testing out this thing called partkeepr. I really should jus tbe using ubuntu server. But I'll probably just X with gedit from now on. Not that I don't like nano, or vim.
[17:18] <Guest70826> bye
[17:18] <snorlax> what ..
[17:18] <snorlax> do they have a linux distro for that?
[17:18] <daftykins> subz3r0: yes, UEFI vs. legacy - have you not done any OS installs on UEFI systems yet? they're quite different
[17:19] <subz3r0> daftykins: you said that my solution works only for UEFI, and thats bullshit
[17:19] <subz3r0> since the laptop was not with uefi where it was installed...
[17:20] <john234> How are all?
[17:20] <compdoc> I cant speak for all
[17:21] <john234> great!
[17:21] <daftykins> subz3r0: extracting the 8.1 .ISO to a flash drive and setting it as 'bootable' does not do enough to get it to boot in legacy mode.
[17:21] <daftykins> subz3r0: it would require a boot sector to be created too, which your advice did not include.
[17:22] <daftykins> anyway this is #ubuntu not ##windows ^_^
 NeoID: have you fsck'd the file system?
[17:22] <NeoID> nope, but I notice that the drive-number is not in the correct order anymore
[17:26] <Miron> smurf metamorphosis
[17:31] <Mongo44> My Win95 virtual machine doesn't work. It says no bootable medium found.
[17:32] <k1l_> Mongo44: i doubt that is a ubuntu issue
[17:32] <Mongo44> It is a virtualbox issue which is a program for ubuntu.
[17:33] <compdoc> I think there is a virtualbox channel
[17:33] <compdoc> are you installing from a cd?
[17:34] <Mongo44> I installed VB from the software center.
[17:34] <compdoc> no, I mean windows 95
[17:35] <compdoc> that windows is so old you cant even surf the web with it
[17:35] <Mongo44> I thought I did not need a cd for it to work.
[17:35] <compdoc> you have to install from something
[17:36] <compdoc> hope you arent using floppy images
[17:36] <Mongo44> I don't even have a floppy drive.
[17:36] <k1l_> Mongo44: you dont have a ubuntu issue. you have a virtualbox with windows95 issue. make sure the install media is set up propperly
[17:38] <Mongo44> I am just trying to install old Win95 games do I really need to install the OS?
[17:39] <compdoc> its likely win95 isnt compatible:    https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Guest_OSes
[17:39] <k1l_> Mongo44: you cant run the games in VBOX without a OS
[17:39] <k1l_> !wine | Mongo44 that is what you want
[17:40] <Mongo44> I know about wine. I haven't had much luck when trying to install old applications.
[17:41] <k1l_> Mongo44: yes, but you need to install win95 in vbox first before you can run programs on it
[17:42] <Mongo44> Well, that's a bummer.
[17:42] <elmcrest> hi all. is there a problem with the repo or is maybe a problem with my VM ... I get this https://dpaste.de/qcHy after apt-get update
[17:42] <elmcrest> f.e. Ign http://de.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/main Translation-de_DE
[17:43] <subz3r0> !de elmcrest
[17:43] <subz3r0> !de > elmcrest
[17:43] <subz3r0> !de | elmcrest
[17:43] <subz3r0> but no, there is no problem at all
[17:43] <subz3r0> after sudo apt-get update you have to do "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[17:44] <elmcrest> subz3r0 I did speak english, right? ... I don't understand the message, but OK i can join #ubuntu
[17:44] <elmcrest> subz3r0 ok, but why is that "Ign" there instead of "OK" ...
[17:45] <subz3r0> elmcrest: yes you have spoken english. but since there is a german channel to, there is no reason to talk it imho. anyways...
[17:45] <subz3r0> "too"
[17:45] <elmcrest> yes ok :)
[17:47] <llutz> elmcrest: "Ign" means, "nothing new for me - i ignore this repo this time"
[17:47] <subz3r0> IGN means ignore. in other words: Nothing has changed, so no need to updatee...
[17:48] <elmcrest> llutz subz3r0  ok thx ... i was wondering because there had been a kind of long break ... felt like a time out
[17:48] <subz3r0> elmcrest: you're welcome
[17:53] <jonkri> Is there some way in which I can log in to the Ubuntu desktop over SSH? (Like, have the system start an X session.)
[17:59] <mehulp> hi
[18:00] <pixelgremlins> hey, I'm using lsyncd to sync files via rsync, is there a way to also preserve permissions?
[18:01] <notok> I would like to run a bash script in the earlier stages of the booting process. Which script or config files should I be looking for? Thanks in advance
[18:02] <notok> rc.local is not of interest because my partitions have alredy been touched by several services
[18:08] <yeats> jonkri: you can do 'ssh -X' to access gui programs.  I you need full desktop access, you might look into RDP
[18:09] <yeats> !rdp
[18:11] <Rory> !vnc
[18:11] <Rory> yeats: RDP is Windows...
[18:11] <yeats> Rory: ah yes - you're right
[18:12] <Milapurr> D: Can someone help me?
[18:12] <Milapurr> I cant install ubuntu 12.04 without errors like crazy.
[18:13] <Rory> Milapurr: It's possible you have a corrupted .iso file
[18:13] <Rory> !md5sum | Milapurr
[18:13] <Milapurr> ive installed 12.04 before on here.
[18:14] <Milapurr> now my hard drive is failing and I need this to run
[18:14] <Rory> Milapurr: You're trying to install Ubuntu to a hard drive that's failing?
[18:14] <jonkri> yeats: I don't have X on the client, so I actually want to start the window on the server. But I can't, because it's not logged into X.
[18:16] <quetzakubica> guys if I'm connected to ssh, every my input is send as separate packet ?
[18:16] <yeats> jonkri: you probably need VNC then
[18:16] <Rory> quetzakubica: Check by running tcpdump
[18:16] <Milapurr> I can't afford a new hard drive and this one has a bad sector.
[18:16] <quetzakubica> because I have big delay between inputs
[18:16] <Rory> Milapurr: I recommend booting from a LiveUSB/CD and backing up your data
[18:17] <Rory> Milapurr: I'm sorry to hear about your financial situation but if your hard drive is physically broken there's not much you can do besides buying a replacement!
[18:17] <Milapurr> Theres nothing really on the computer im using ubuntu for endlife.
[18:17] <Milapurr> It wont start windows 7 but used to run ubuntu just fine, i've done it before but I can't figure out how to reinstall anything
[18:17] <quetzakubica> this is strange behaviour, I thought commands are send after "enter"
[18:17] <Rory> Milapurr: What errors are you getting?
[18:17] <Milapurr> Right now
[18:18] <Milapurr> Ubi-part man failed with exit code 10
[18:18] <Rory> That sounds very much like hard-drive failure Milapurr
[18:18] <Milapurr> I cant boot into windows 7 without it hanging or without my wifi driver not working
[18:18] <Rory> That's because you have a failing hard drive
[18:18] <jonkri> So there is no command-line program in Ubuntu that says: Log in this user to Ubuntu's display manager?
[18:19] <Rory> jonkri: You should install VNC
[18:19] <Rory> jonkri: That is exactly what you need
[18:19] <boern> hey guys i have a problem.. have ubuntu 13.10 on my SSD and i made a NTFS parition for windows on my HDD.. how can i make it dualboot with grub?  because now i have so boot either from SSD or HDD to boot in windows or linux
[18:19] <Milapurr> my computer is only seeing a 10 gb space on the hard drive for some reason...
[18:19] <Rory> boern: Boot into Linux, and run "sudo update-grub"
[18:20] <Rory> Milapurr: Because it's failing, physically broken
[18:20] <silverf0x> i have problems with grub2
[18:20] <Rory> Milapurr: If it were a car, it would have its exhaust hanging off
[18:20] <jonkri> Rory: Will VNC enable DISPLAY=:0 to be logged in? Because that's what I need. :-P
[18:20] <boern> thats all??
[18:20] <silverf0x> when i stat the box, it still on grubs whitout load the kernel
[18:20] <vfw> !grub | silverf0x
[18:20] <Milapurr> I cant afford another drive. So I gotta do what I can with what little I have right now ._.;
[18:20] <boern> wow really
[18:20] <boern> thank you *-*
[18:20] <Rory> Milapurr: What "little" you have is a write-off
[18:21] <Milapurr> o_o its 1tb of hard drive.
[18:21] <Rory> Milapurr: How old is it; is it under warranty?
[18:21] <Milapurr> its 2 years old
[18:21] <Milapurr> warrenty is out
[18:21] <Rory> I'm sorry to hear that
[18:21] <Milapurr> its trying to install again.
[18:22] <Rory> Milapurr: Just to make sure it's not this; when you boot from the LiveCD, check its integrity by choosing that option from the boot menu (press any key when you see the purple screen to access the menu)
[18:22] <Milapurr> If I get a new hard drive it wont have windows 7 and my computer didn't come with an install disk
[18:22] <Rory> Milapurr: You can get official install .iso from Microsoft's site,
[18:22] <morales> Hello
[18:22] <Milapurr> for free?
[18:22] <Rory> Milapurr: Yes but you need to activate it still
[18:23] <Milapurr> I have an activation it's on the bottom.
[18:23] <Rory> Milapurr: You can use your existing license key to do that
[18:23] <Rory> Milapurr: You won't need to buy another Windows licence, if that's what you're worried about. For now though, I recommend you check the integrity of your Ubuntu install media just to make sure it isn't that which is causing problems
[18:24] <Milapurr> if i had another computer i would check integriy.
[18:24] <Milapurr> integrity*
[18:24] <Rory> Milapurr: You don't need another computer
[18:24] <Rory> Milapurr: Just to make sure it's not this; when you boot from the LiveCD, check its integrity by choosing that option from the boot menu (press any key when you see the purple screen to access the menu)
[18:24] <Milapurr> I have no irc anywhere else to stay connected.
[18:24] <LindyThing> ubuntu 12.04.3 LTX x86_64 - updated successfully, dist-upgrade returns:
[18:24] <sillyjillybilly> I'm having trouble setting up my CLX-3305FW multifunctional printer. I installed Samsung Unified Linux Driver. Acording to a thread in ask ubuntu. I need to remove it.
[18:24] <LindyThing> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of initramfs-tools:
[18:24] <LindyThing>  initramfs-tools depends on initramfs-tools-bin (<< 0.99ubuntu13.3.1~); however:
[18:25] <LindyThing>   Version of initramfs-tools-bin on system is 0.99ubuntu13.4.
[18:25] <Rory> Milapurr: It's fine, I have nothing else to do this evening, unfortunately
[18:25] <morales> Can you read me ? i received "#linux-fr :Cannot send to channel" when i try to send on this channel :(
[18:25] <Milapurr> okay
[18:25] <sillyjillybilly> Can anyone please help me sort it out? Or help me figure out which version i have installed?
[18:25] <Rory> Milapurr: It's fine, I have nothing else to do this evening, unfortunately
[18:25] <Milapurr> alright
[18:25] <Rory> LindyThing: Can you please put the full output on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:25] <Rory> LindyThing: The output of: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get discobiscuit
[18:26] <Rory> lmao sorry discobiscuit
[18:26] <Rory> LindyThing: The output of: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:26] <LindyThing> rory: sure
[18:26] <k1l_> morales: you need to be a logged in user into freenode to write in #linux-fr
[18:26] <Rory> (note to self, tab-completion for commands doesn't work in your IRC client)
[18:26] <k1l_> !register | morales
[18:27] <morales> Oh, thanks
[18:28] <LindyThing> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6525988/
[18:29] <Mila> um i got mango to work
[18:29] <Mila> its running integrity check
[18:29] <Mila> i still dont understand why it says: no root file system
[18:30] <Mila> when trying to install
[18:30] <Mila> also: no errors
[18:31] <Denc> hello, i have problem with ubunto and torrents, i cant download any torrent... anyone have any idea what i did wrong...
[18:32] <LindyThing> denc: need more information
[18:32] <LindyThing> denc: what client are you using
[18:32] <Denc> i-m using transsmision
[18:32] <Mila> i need a nap... being angry isnt gonna help fix this
[18:32] <Rory> LindyThing: Can you please try running "sudo apt-get -f install" - pastebin that as well please
[18:33] <LindyThing> rory: I did, and it's in that same paste
[18:33] <Rory> Denc: What do you mean "can't download" what happens when you try?
[18:33] <Rory> LindyThing: Oh derp
[18:33] <Denc> Rory: my client cant find any peers
[18:34] <LindyThing> denc: have you set up port forwarding on your router at all? I had a similar problem until i did that.
[18:34] <Denc> Rory: i also check my ufw status which is inactive
[18:35] <Denc> LindyThing: i can download on other computer and also on other OS on this computer
[18:35] <discobiscuit> Rory, it's cool
[18:35] <LindyThing> denc: can rule that out then
[18:35] <LindyThing> denc: have you had success with any other clients on the ubuntu box
[18:35] <megalinux> oi
[18:35] <Mila> im gonna try reinstalling
[18:36] <Mila> okay i got another error
[18:36] <Denc> i tried with ktorrent and same story there
[18:36] <Rory> LindyThing: I'm going to get you to download and install those specific package versions manually, hold on just a sec
[18:36] <Rory> LindyThing: wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/initramfs-tools/initramfs-tools-bin_0.99ubuntu13.1_amd64.deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/initramfs-tools/initramfs-tools_0.99ubuntu13.1_all.deb
[18:36] <Mila> some partitions you created are too small. please make the following partitions at least /2.4gb
[18:36] <Rory> LindyThing: sudo dpkg -i initramfs*deb
[18:36] <Rory> Mila: Engage brain
[18:37] <Rory> Mila: Read error, apply brain
[18:37] <LindyThing> rory: fair enough, I'm not sure why initramfs-tools needs an older version of the -bin to update itself
[18:37] <Mila> i dont remember how to install along side win 7
[18:37] <Rory> LindyThing: I'm not sure either, I found a bug where this was a workaround
[18:37] <Mila> my harddrive isnt even full
[18:37] <daftykins> Mila: you didn't create a large enough partition to install to.
[18:38] <Rory> Mila: Are you creating partitions manually?
[18:38] <LindyThing> rory: can you link me to the bug while i'm installing old packages
[18:38] <Rory> LindyThing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/984688
[18:39] <Guest66987> a person can last they rootpaw?
[18:39] <Mila> okay. another error
[18:39] <Mila> no root file system defined please correct this error in the partitioning menu
[18:40] <k1l_> !root | Guest66987
[18:40] <Mila> and again it crashed
[18:41] <Rory> k1l_: well guessed
[18:41] <Mila> *sighs*
[18:41] <Rory> Mila: Can you take a screenshot of your partitioning menu once you have set it up how you want?
[18:41] <Mila> the entire thing is frozen
[18:41] <Denc> LindyThing: i just realize i can download with kTorrent but just .torrent files and in my case i want to download trought magnet link.... any idea?
[18:41] <Mila> i dont know what that is?
[18:41] <Rory> Mila: How are you installing? With the guided partitioning?
[18:42] <Mila> yes but i have no way of posting a picture here
[18:43] <daftykins> Mila: sure you do. imgur.com or tinypic.com
[18:43] <Rory> !paste | Mila
[18:43] <LindyThing> denc: tpb indicates that issues with magnet links can usually be resolved by upgrading your torrent client. I'm not sure if that's applicable here. I use rtorrent with no magnet issues
[18:43] <Mila> i cant paste the app i have has a bug where i cant paste things
[18:43] <Mila> nothing works
[18:43] <Rory> Mila: imgur urls aren't very long
[18:43] <daftykins> Mila: ¬_¬ sounds like there's no helping you then
[18:44] <daftykins> Rory: one for the twitter feed i think ;)
[18:44] <Mila> i seriously need another computer to do this on...
[18:44] <Mila> lets try partitioning again
[18:44] <Rory> no daftykins it has to be a single, garbled question to make it onto there.
[18:44] <daftykins> :D
[18:44] <daftykins> true
[18:44] <Rory> daftykins: something like "a person can last they rootpaw?"
[18:45] <daftykins> Rory: make it so!
[18:45] <LindyThing> rory: those files don't exist on the server anymore. http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/initramfs-tools/
[18:45] <Mila> im gonna try again... maybe i did something wrong
[18:45] <LindyThing> I'm getting the closest match older than 13.4
[18:46] <tonytt> is there a task manager in lubuntu ?
[18:46] <Rory> LindyThing: Yeah good idea
[18:46] <Rory> tonytt: There is
[18:46] <Rory> tonytt: Oh, lubuntu. Not sure, ask #lubuntu
[18:46] <tonytt> looked in the menu  . i dont see it
[18:46] <tonytt> k
[18:48] <Mila> ok rory for my main partition it says used: unknown under it
[18:48] <Mila> i know that number should be around 108,000
[18:49] <Rory> Mila: I don't feel comfortable advising you without a screenshot
[18:49] <ryan_46> Mila: It sounded like when you select the partition, you didn't click the change button so that you could select file format and where to mount OS.
[18:49] <Rory> Mila: Don't want to reach a misunderstanding and tell you to do something which could cause data loss
[18:50] <Mila> think if i actually shut down my computer right it might display win 7 on the hard drive
[18:50] <Rory> Mila: Yes!
[18:51] <Rory> Mila: You cannot do things to an ntfs partition on Linux if it is unclean
[18:51] <Rory> Mila: You need to go into Windows, shut it down properly
[18:51] <Mila> cause ive been having to hard reboot because incant boot into windows
[18:51] <Mila> i cant*
[18:51] <Rory> Mila: OK we can work around that then
[18:52] <Mila> i mean: it can go to the welcome screen and thats it
[18:52] <Rory> Mila: Can you open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs"
[18:52] <Rory> Mila: Close the Ubuntu installer first
[18:52] <Mila> im trying to load the cd
[18:52] <Rory> Mila: OK well when you're in the live session, do that
[18:53] <Rory> Mila: Then run the command "sudo fdisk -l" which will list all your partitions. If you can identify your Windows one (it will be something like /dev/sda1) make a mental note of that
[18:53] <Mila> its times like this i wish i didnt have a password on the router
[18:53] <Rory> Mila: If you can't identify it, paste the output from that command (ctrl-shift-c to copy from a terminal) onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel
[18:54] <Rory> Mila: I don't understand how your router factors into this
[18:54] <Mila> i need it to get online
[18:54] <Rory> Mila: Are you able to connect with a cable?
[18:54] <Mila> too far
[18:55] <Rory> Well, rack your brains for the wifi password :) Or fix your Windows installtion and shut it down cleanly
[18:56] <Mila> cannot do ntfs progs
[18:56] <Mila> refereed to by another package
[18:56] <Mila> reffered*
[18:56] <Rory> Mila:  Try running "sudo apt-get update" first
[18:56] <Rory> referred*
[18:57] <Nach0z> sudo apt-get moo
[18:57] <LindyThing> rory: that all worked, now I'm cursing my 100MB /boot partition :P
[18:57] <Rory> LindyThing: Ah right.
[18:57] <Rory> LindyThing: The bug report mentioned that
[18:57] <LindyThing> rory: it's a VM so I could grow it, but I'll just boot to the new kernel and delete all the old ones if dmsg looks good
[18:58] <Rory> LindyThing: I think you should do that yeah
[18:58] <LindyThing> rory: since I'm actually another kernel behind
[18:58] <Mila> paste.ubuntu.com/6526135
[18:59] <Mila> theres that
[18:59] <Rory> Mila: Can you now run: sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda3
[18:59] <silverf0x> i have problem with my grub2, my ubuntu still on grubs, and don't go ahead and boot my kernel... how i can fix that?
[19:00] <Mila> command not found
[19:01] <Mila> dammit spell...ing ... it wants chkdsk ru
[19:01] <Mila> run*
[19:01] <nafg> Hi, can someone tell me, I am installing a ubuntu computer as a kiosk. It needs to run on Wifi. The place has a wifi network that has no wifi password but it's a hidden network.
[19:01] <nafg> Ubunt 13.10
[19:01] <Mila> volume is corrupt
[19:01] <Mila> no really...
[19:01] <Denc> LindyThing: i tried to use rtorrent and same story...
[19:01] <Rory> OK Mila You will need to run a chkdsk on Windows or risk data loss on that partition if you try to resize it
[19:02] <nafg> 1. Is wifi config per user? because if not, I can log in as the admin user, set up wifi, and then log in as the kiosk user and i'm done
[19:02] <nafg> Otherwise I have to edit config files or something
[19:02] <Rory> Mila: If you want to disregard that, you can pretend everything is OK by clearing the dirty flag: sudo ntfsfix -d /dev/sda3
[19:02] <Rory> Mila: That will allow the installer to use guided partitioning to resize your drive and everything should be shiny and happy
[19:03] <LindyThing> denc: that's weird. You might pastebin your OS version / arch, and torrent client version(s), and the errors you're getting when trying to load magnet links
[19:03] <Rory> Now I don't think I'm in the middle of helping anyone, and I've had a couple of vodka and irn-brus. I have a policy of not being in this channel while even slightly intoxicated, so I'm going to step out. Mila this might help you http://askubuntu.com/questions/112150/how-to-correctly-fix-a-dirty-ntfs-partition-without-using-chkdsk
[19:03] <Guest66987> hi try to do nerface by stp can help me
[19:03] <CarlFK> what happened to "[x] load images" in the latest  Firefox?
[19:04] <LtRipley> hi
[19:04] <Guest66987> what up
[19:04] <LtRipley> my update manager is running in the background with 100% cpu usage, seemingly without doing anything, can there be a reason to this?
[19:05] <LtRipley> or at least a process called update-manager
[19:05] <LtRipley> is it run automatically on startup?
[19:06] <IdleOne> I believe it defaults to once a week
[19:06] <IdleOne> you can disable it in Software Center settings
[19:08] <Mila> the disklost casper
[19:09] <Mila> great.
[19:14] <drpoo> Hi all, I am my 13.10 desktop reboots at random times. I checked out my kern.log and I see this line with every time my computer reboots:  nouveau  [  PTHERM][0000:02:00.0] temperature (136 C) hit the 'shutdown' threshold
[19:14] <drpoo> any ideas?
[19:16] <Mila> thats silly for it to shut down at 136 f. most anything i run will drag it up around 172. maybe theres a way to turn that off
[19:17] <Calinou> drpoo, your graphics card is WAY too hot
[19:17] <Calinou> you should keep an eye on temperatures
[19:17] <Calinou> it is suggested you install the proprietary nvidia driver to avoid issues
[19:17] <Calinou> Mila, 136 °C... not F
[19:17] <LindyThing> drpoo: nouveau is pretty notorious for running mega hot
[19:17] <Calinou> the hardware can be damaged with such temps
[19:17] <Calinou> LindyThing, when it reclocks
[19:17] <Calinou> when it doesn't reclock (fermi/kepler) there is no issue
[19:18] <LindyThing> drpoo: at risk of coming under fire, I agree with calinou - use prop drivers if you're not morally convicted to use FOSS
[19:18] <Mila> oh, thats a graphics. ick. fix that
[19:18] <Calinou> Mila, it is harmful for CPUs or even VRMs too
[19:18] <Denc> LindyThing: OS:3.11.0-14-generic #21-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 12 17:04:55 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux    torrent client: Transsmision 2.82 (14160), error: Couldn-t bind port 51413 on 0.0.0.0: Address already in use (Is another copy of Transmission already running?)
[19:18] <LindyThing> drpoo: i've personally never experienced issues at all with prop nvidia on any linux install
[19:19] <Calinou> same
[19:20] <drpoo> LindyThing, i dont really care what driver i use. I dont want my computer to randomly reboot
[19:20] <Guest74764> it looks like nouveau might be grabbing the treshholds from the bios: http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1303.0/01693.html
[19:20] <Mila> I'm still having problems...
[19:20] <drpoo> LindyThing, is there a way of reading the current temperature status of my GPU?
[19:21] <Mila> i think im gonna take a nap.
[19:21] <Denc> LindyThing: any way thanks for your help, now i have to go so i-ll try fix it next time
[19:22] <LindyThing> drpoo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34449/how-to-see-the-video-card-temperature-nvidia-ati-intel
[19:24] <LindyThing> drpoo: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/11/nvidia-331-20-install-ubuntu-linux-mint/
[19:24] <snyp> How do I remove all unnecessary packages? Is there a list of stuff I might not need somewhere online? like so many video drivers and fonts.
[19:25] <LindyThing> drpoo: the instructions at the bottom might not be idea for the above link - you might need to flip to a console session, kill your X session, and THEN apt-get purge nouveau, then proceed to install the nvidia drivers as shown
[19:25] <LindyThing> snyp: sudo apt-get autoremove will remove all the things your system doesn't declare dependencies on
[19:26] <drpoo> LindyThing, thank you! you rock!!
[19:26] <snyp> LindyThing: yeah, i just wanted a list of 'auxiliary' apps ubuntu installs that i might not need. i didn't want to search them all manually.
[19:26] <LindyThing> snyp: if you want to get more granular than that, you'll unfortunately have to look at what packages you don't think you'll need manually :(
[19:26] <snyp> oh
[19:27] <LindyThing> snyp: after that, as you start tearing them out, you'll find that some of the things you don't think you need are actually dependencies of things you do need
[19:27] <LindyThing> snyp: most installed fonts are dependencies of either your DM or browser or office suite
[19:27] <LindyThing> snyp: for example :)
[19:27] <snyp> that.. could happen. mhm, gonna remove libreoffice i guess.
[19:28] <LindyThing> snyp: you might be able to crop out things that autoinstall with Gnome / KDE / whatever DE you're using, one at a time, without breaking the DE, then apt-get autoremove will drag out some chaff probably
[19:28] <timo_> can some how to inreface?
[19:28] <snyp> brb
[19:28] <awesomess3> hello. I have a 4GB thumbdrive and I want it to boot into Ubuntu 13.10. Should I use it as a Live disk drive? do I need to use grub? Should I use `usb-creator-gtk`? Should I just install ubuntu onto the thumbdrive? If I use it as a livedisk can I mount the rest of the 3GB onto /home/ubuntu?
[19:30] <awesomess3> I have an Ubuntu 10.04 and a Windows 8.0 machine.
[19:30] <LindyThing> awesomeness3: do you want a full blown linux install on it, or work it like a live CD
[19:30] <awesomess3> LindyThing, which would be better?
[19:30] <LindyThing> awesomess3: whichever suits your need. if you're just evaluating and have no need for installing packages, live is fine
[19:31] <drizzle> @LindyThing - do you work for Canonical?
[19:31] <madabyss> How can I change the SFTP root?
[19:31] <snyp> hm. also need to delete the bulk of xserver-xorg-driver-xxx packages. that will be it for now.
[19:31] <awesomess3> LindyThing, well I want to install `wine`, but can't I do that on the LiveDisk? I think there is some space in the ramdisk to install at least a little bit of packages.
[19:31] <LindyThing> lindything: no, I'm a linux engineer for a major hosting / colo / managed services company using mostly redhat, but we support ubuntu and I've used it at home
[19:32] <LindyThing> erm... that was for drizzle
[19:32] <LindyThing> drizzle: and i support my wife's Mint installation
[19:32] <LindyThing> awesomess3: you'll have to install things new every time if you run it live and install to ramdisks
[19:33] <LindyThing> awesomess3: live installs aren't really meant for what you describe
[19:34] <LindyThing> awesomess3: and a warning - i've run ubuntu on a stick before for work, and the solid state memory has a tendency to get shredded after a month of constant use
[19:34] <LindyThing> awesomess3: so just be aware that you'll be replacing that drive if you use it often
[19:35] <LindyThing> awesomess3: gparted will allow you to partition a thumb drive just like a hdd. It's been a long time, and I"m not sure about this, but Ubuntu MIGHT detect your thumb drive as an installable medium. If so, I'd just install it.
[19:36] <LindyThing> awesomess3: I've always used USB HDDs, so i'm not sure if there's any prep you need to do other than making the drive bootable
[19:36] <LindyThing> awesomess3: which you might be able to do in gparted.
[19:37] <LindyThing> madabyss: need more info
[19:37] <awesomess3> LindyThing, what about 'usb-creator-gtk' have you ever used that tool?
[19:38] <LindyThing> awesomess3: no :(
[19:38] <LindyThing> snyp: are you low on disk space?
[19:39] <awesomess3> LindyThing, then how did you get the Ubuntu ISO into the 1GB thumbdrive FAT32 partition?
[19:39] <LindyThing> timo_ what do you mean?
[19:39] <LindyThing> awesomess3: what I'm discussing doesn't involve putting the iso on the drive as such
[19:39] <LindyThing> awesomess3: though that's possible, you're talking about a live install
[19:40] <awesomess3> LindyThing, or a LiveDisk demo
[19:40] <snyp> LindyThing: no. just low on bandwidth on the mobile internet connection i use when away from home. so updates will be pull stuff i won't be needing.
[19:41] <LindyThing> awesomess3: if you want to actually use the system, you'll want to make the thumbdrive bootable, then boot the machine with an install CD and the thumbdrive inserted, booting from the CD and selecting the thumbdrive as the destination
[19:41] <LindyThing> snyp: i get you
[19:41] <LindyThing> snyp: in that case, I think you just have to be careful of what you delete since they are all parts of a single package
[19:42] <timo_> i mean i can find my Screenshot
[19:42] <drpoo> LindyThing, the command apt-get purge nouveau  does not work. No such package
[19:42] <snyp> ok.
[19:43] <LindyThing> drpoo: dpkg -l 'nouveau*' | grep '^ii'
[19:44] <LindyThing> drpoo: that will show you anything you have installed that matches nouveau
[19:44] <LindyThing> drpoo you might need '*nouveau*'
[19:45] <gvo> or just nouveau
[19:45] <LindyThing> snyp: not sure if this helps, but "lshw -C display | grep -i driver" will show you what your display driver is
[19:45] <LindyThing> gvo: or that :D
[19:46] <madabyss> LindyThing: I just setup Ubuntu as a development env. I need to change the sftp root to point to my web root...
[19:46] <gvo> I usually do it in two steps, dpkg -l | grep nouveau
[19:46] <drpoo> LindyThing, I found xserver-xorg-video-nouveau is this the package to purge?
[19:47] <LindyThing> drpoo: is that the only match for nouveau?\
[19:47] <reggie_> hey folks
[19:47] <reggie_> does anyone know why plymouth stops functioning after Nvidia driver install
[19:47] <drpoo> LindyTing , see http://paste.ubuntu.com/6526367/
[19:49] <LindyThing> drpoo: actually, i'm reading sites that suggest removing nouveau is actually not necessary
[19:49] <LindyThing> drpoo: so forget that part
[19:49] <LindyThing> drpoo: it wouldn't hurt anything and i always remove it
[19:49] <LindyThing> drpoo: but you don't have to
[19:49] <drpoo> LindyThing, im going to give it a shot
[19:49] <LindyThing> drpoo: in that case, yes that's the right package
[19:49] <drpoo> LindyThing, using this tutorial,, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/11/nvidia-331-20-install-ubuntu-linux-mint/
[19:49] <LindyThing> drpoo: that's what i would use
[19:51] <LindyThing> madabyss: multiple users i take it? normally sftp works just like ssh, dropping users into their home directories and allowing hte same file permissions as they would have in an interactive shell
[19:52] <LindyThing> madabyss: I've never personally had a reason for it to behave any differently, but I'd google "change sftp root directory" - there are a lot of hits in there
[19:53] <madabyss> LindyThing: Doesn't need to be. It's running as a VM on my local so I'm the only person that needs to login. It'd be nice if it could support multiple users but I only need to have access to the webroot
[19:54] <LindyThing> madabyss: not the answer you want, but I'd just softlink the webroot in my home folder and double click into it
[19:54] <LindyThing> madabyss: or, change your home folder to the webroot in /etc/passwd
[19:54] <morales> hi, is there a command who can execute a program on console when we are innactif ? as the TMOUT = x close terminal when we don't use it.
[19:55] <LindyThing> madabyss: then you'd always start in the web root
[19:55] <LindyThing> morales: locally or SSH
[19:55] <gordonjcp> morales: tmux, or screen
[19:56] <madabyss> LindyThing: Hmm.. I suppose that an option. Althought I think should be a way to define paths. Maybe in /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[19:56] <LindyThing> madabyss: maybe :)
[19:56] <jhutchins> madabyss: You can assign a chroot to ssh/scp.
[19:56] <morales> Ok, i'll try
[19:56] <reggie_> does anyone know how to fix plymouth after nvidia install
[19:56] <jhutchins> madabyss: http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20080220110039
[19:57] <LindyThing> jhutchins madabyss: won't that chroot all ssh connections though? I got the impression he wants sftp to behave differently to ssh console connections
[19:57] <madabyss> jhutchins: Oh awesome. Thanks!
[19:57] <madabyss> LindyThing, jhutchins: That is true. I only want SFTP path
[19:58] <jhutchins> madabyss: That article also tells you how you could lock certain users down to scp only.
[19:58] <fiz-> i would like to have ubuntu in cloud service, where to start?
[19:58] <fiz-> just one vm
[19:58] <bekks> fiz-: get an amazon ec2 instance e.g.
[20:00] <Rarrikins> How do I find out which aptitude package a file is in?
[20:00] <amol> is there any asset management software  for ubunt..?
[20:00] <fiz-> 2 bucks per month, somewhat small value ;)
[20:03] <fiz-> after switching to EU price is much higher
[20:03] <fiz-> ;<
[20:17] <shady_> helo-world
[20:17] <reggie_> what's up shady
[20:17] <shady_> brrr colf
[20:18] <shady_> my ubuntu is wrking
[20:18] <shady_> :)
[20:19] <reggie_> lol great
[20:19] <reggie_> do you know how to fix plymouth after installing nvidia driver
[20:20] <xerty> I just updated to 13.10, the update froze with blank screen and was unresponsive. On boot disk won\t mount now.http://paste.ubuntu.com/6526502/
[20:20] <shady_> plymouth not wrky?
[20:20] <Calinou> reggie_, disable it
[20:20] <reggie_> no just get blank black screen saying plymout not working
[20:21] <Calinou> edit /etc/default/grub, remove "splash" from the boot options, then do "sudo update-grub2"
[20:21] <reggie_> Calinou, I sort of enjoyed my boot splash
[20:21] <shady_> holy bat caves
[20:21] <reggie_> I'm sure there has to be a workaround for it
[20:21] <Calinou> nvidia does not support proper boot splashes
[20:21] <Calinou> (native-resolution ones)
[20:22] <shady_> kill it
[20:22] <reggie_> lol think I've found a solution but will have to apply it, I'll let you know what happens
[20:22] <Calinou> ok
[20:23] <Calinou> "[ 1692.263572] XFS (sdb): Corruption detected. Unmount and run xfs_repair"
[20:23] <shady_> got to have plymouth, like milk
[20:23] <Calinou> xerty, it got corrupted
[20:23] <Calinou> so, you'll have to do what the error message says, and hope for the best
[20:24] <jhutchins> xerty: Can you boot to rescue mode?
[20:24] <madabyss> I asked this yesterday but I have to ask again. Is there anyway to su root on Ubuntu server? I'm really tired of typing sudo in front of everything.
[20:24] <xerty> jhutchins:
[20:24] <shady_> lol
[20:24] <Calinou> madabyss, no.
[20:25] <Calinou> there is a reason you type sudo for stuff that could be dangerous
[20:25] <xerty> jhutchins: no, it hangs when it tries to mount the disk, but the live cd can mount the ext4 partition
[20:25] <daftykins> madabyss: 'sudo -s'
[20:25] <Calinou> you usually do not use sudo, too, do _not_ prefix it to all of your commands
[20:25] <madabyss> Calinou: I'm not but most of my commands require it.
[20:25] <madabyss> daftykins: What does the s flag do?
[20:26] <daftykins> madabyss: "man sudo"
[20:26] <Vaecile> Hello all. I'm having some trouble after upgrading to 13.04 from 12.04LTS
[20:26] <shady_> try 13.10
[20:27] <Vaecile> Isn't 13.10 still in dev mode?
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> i went back to 12.04
[20:27] <xerty> Calinou: how can i un corrupt it
[20:27] <shady_> 13.04 left me befounded lookin for the confounded bridge
[20:28] <jhutchins> xerty: From the live CD with the disk unmounted, fsck -a /dev/sda?
[20:28] <jhutchins> xerty: sudo of course.
[20:28] <s1ngl3c0r3> Hello there, I have a situation that I am unsure of. I have an ubuntu server, I connect to it via ssh. I initialize a program on it, the program is running, and the cpu is working around 100%.  The question is.... if I drop the ssh connection, does the program continue to run? or does it drop when I drop the ssh session?
[20:29] <Vaecile> s1ngl3c0r3, are you logged in as root when SSHed?
[20:29] <jhutchins> s1ngl3c0r3: Depends on the program and how you launch it.  A normal program from a normal shell will stop.  You can use nohup, screen, tmux, or disown to keep it running.
[20:29] <articsun> Eli-5dce:  hey
[20:29] <s1ngl3c0r3> Vaecile:yes, it is the root user
[20:30] <shady_> where in h3ll is that confounded bridge
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> s1ngl3c0r3: use !screen, then you can disconnect ssh without stopping the command
[20:30] <xerty> jhutchins: fsck.ext2: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdb
[20:30] <Vaecile> s1ngl3c0r3: Do you want the program to run 24/7?
[20:30] <bekks> xerty: your filesystem is not on sdb most likely, but on a partition on sdb
[20:30] <s1ngl3c0r3> jhutchins: MonkeyDust thankyou, screen it is.
[20:31] <jhutchins> xerty: Try /dev/sdb1
[20:31] <xerty> ak of course
[20:31] <Vaecile> s1ngl3c0r3: Because if that's the case, then you create a script in /etc/init.d/ to execute it when the machine starts
[20:32] <Vaecile> s1ngl3c0r3: Then you don't have to be logged in to start it
[20:32] <xerty> bekks: right
[20:32] <Vaecile> s1ngl3c0r3: and you can leave and it will still run
[20:32] <xerty> jhutchins: it\s clean <question mark>
[20:32] <s1ngl3c0r3> Vaecile: Im not too savy with writing scripts, I think I will try the "screen option". Sounds like the script would be better, just in case they reboot the machine. Its a VPS, that I just purchased.
[20:34] <Vaecile> s1ngl3c0r3: The script is super easy. All you have to do is create a file called "yourfilename.sh" in /etc/init.d/ and edit it to run your program.
[20:36] <xerty> jhutchins: after the failed update the sytem boots up with error / file system check or mount failed.
[20:38] <s1ngl3c0r3> so I use "screen cmd" and that opens a new screen session with what I want to have running stay running. Do I just "close" my terminal now and it continue running?
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> s1ngl3c0r3: ctrl-d
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> s1ngl3c0r3: and logout, then back in and type    screen -rd
[20:40] <glassresistor> im trying to use the simple-cdd debian install iso builder, it seems to be breaking following this tutorial in https://wiki.debian.org/Simple-CDD/Howto
[20:41] <s1ngl3c0r3> MonkeyDust: nice! Thanks a bunch, that makes life much easier.
[20:41] <glassresistor> is this know to be an issue?
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> !screen
[20:44] <jhutchins> xerty: Did you check all of the filesystems?
[20:45] <DAudioLink> Are there any issues with Ubuntu and AMD CPU/GPUs?
[20:46] <jhutchins> DAudioLink: Yep, especially 13.10.
[20:46] <GreexD> .
[20:46] <GreexD> .
[20:47] <bekks> Generally, in every version ;)
[20:47] <DAudioLink> Pah. Thought I remembered Linux not playing well with AMD
[20:47] <wad> So I installed Ubuntu on my new laptop. But I get a blank screen. After doing some googling, it looks like everyone who has an NVidia graphics card gets a blank screen when they install Ubuntu. >_<
[20:48]  * wad starts sifting through the forums, looking for solutions.
[20:48] <DAudioLink> wad: That's strange. There's generic NVidia drivers that it should've falled back onto
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> those statements are so relative... i have an old amd 3200 with ati card working flawless on ubuntu
[20:48] <wad> DAudioLink, the system seems fine. I hear the nice sound it makes saying that it's a the login screen. Just  a blank screen, though...
[20:48] <vn> hi, how can I know what is the default mail server actuall used by the system?
[20:49] <compdoc> AMD cpus are always fine. I use them in VM servers
[20:49] <DAudioLink> wad: Does the TTY work? Ctrl+Shift+F# iirc
[20:49]  * wad tires
[20:49]  * wad tries
[20:50] <DAudioLink> Or is it Ctrl+Alt+F#?
[20:50] <wad> I tried the first 3 TTYs.
[20:50] <wad> No joy.
[20:50] <wad> Any other ideas are welcome!
[20:51] <DAudioLink> wad: Did you grab a live CD version of ubuntu or just an install media?
[20:51] <wad> One thing I did try was editing the boot options, and specifying nomodeset, and that got it to boot to text only.
[20:51] <wad> I installed from a USB thumb drive.
[20:51] <DAudioLink> Ah so you got graphics in text only mode?
[20:51] <wad> Which I burned with the latest 64-bit desktop.
[20:51] <wad> DAudioLink, I'm not sure what "nomodeset" means.... I got a text login, and was able to login and "apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade" though.
[20:52] <wad> Was hoping that would help it.
[20:52] <DAudioLink> You can install the NVidia drivers/package from the console and see if that fixes it or uninstall them and try for the generic
[20:52] <slash_> hi all
[20:52] <DAudioLink> It's possible the laptop has a heavily modified GPU that won't work without vendor specific drivers though.
[20:53] <mentos_> hello
[20:53] <slash_> what about wine? For me it is very difficult to run several windows programs with wine
[20:53] <mentos_> I am trying to locate bitmapped fonts in ubuntu, can some one help me  ? I've enable them in fontconfig but trying to locate one font file
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> slash_: try a linux native way for whatever you want to do, or use windows if you use a lot of windows programs
[20:58] <wad> DAudioLink, thanks!
[20:58] <CarlFK> what is the name of the  App launcher bar thing that flys out from the left?
[20:59] <psamim> Hi, is there a way to filter messages in IRC to see messages from certain nicks or block some nicks?
[20:59] <CarlFK> I am having trouble adding to it, and I don't know what to google for
[20:59] <lotuspsychje> mentos_: wich font are you trying to find?
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> CarlFK: open a program, it then appears in the launcher, right click on it and 'lock'
[21:00] <daftykins> psamim: that's not Ubuntu support
[21:00] <mentos_> lotuspsychje: Clean ( bitmapped ), I actually found it right now by using fc-list, im trying to convert it to truetype font as xfce craches when using this one
[21:00] <slash_> MonkeyDust : my main problem is with office documents. In my work this is the standard instead OO or LO
[21:00] <CarlFK> MonkeyDust: is "Launcher" the right term?  (cuz what you said works, until I reboot
[21:00] <lotuspsychje> psamim: you can nick highlight in xchat
[21:02] <MonkeyDust> slash_: well, i have windows xp in a virtual box for Main Stream Office
[21:03] <DAudioLink> jhutchins: Any idea if the FX-83xx have issues with 12.04?
[21:03] <jhutchins> wad: WHat you need to do at this point is figure out what your graphical chipset is and look for instructions on getting it working in ubuntu.
[21:03] <wad> ok
[21:04] <jhutchins> wad: lspci -nn | grep -i vga should give you somewhere to start.
[21:04] <wad> It's a Lenovo IdeaPad y510p
[21:04] <jhutchins> slash_: oo or lo will work better with the documents, just keep them in the original format.
[21:04] <jhutchins> slash_: This will work better than trying to run office on wine.
[21:04] <wad> I'm thinking I could just follow these instructions to install nvidia drivers from the console: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-ringtail-nvidia.html
[21:05] <MonkeyDust> wwwwwww
[21:05] <slash_> yes, this is the solution that right now I use. But maybe anyone here could run Office with wine
[21:05] <jhutchins> slash_: THere is a commercial product called Crossover Office which makes it easier to run actual Office programs, but differences in versions are just as bad as the differences beteween Word and OO.
[21:06] <jhutchins> slash_: Crossover Office is a commercial extension of the wine code.
[21:06] <slash_> jhutchins: sounds interesting
[21:08] <DAudioLink> wad: Yup. Though running jhut's idea before you download the drivers to find out if the GPU even works with the Linux drivers would be prudent since the drivers are 200+ MB
[21:08] <xerty> I updated to 13.10 and system now won\t boot. \Filesystem check or mount failed
[21:09] <MattThirtyTwo> -dev
[21:10] <Mongo44> Is it true that Linux is virus proof?
[21:10] <jhutchins> Mongo44: No
[21:10] <llutz> Mongo44: no
[21:10] <jhutchins> xerty: Did you fsck all of the partitions?
[21:10] <slash_> jhutchins: Have you try it?
[21:10] <jhutchins> slash_: No, I believe using native linux solutions is a much better answer.
[21:11] <zzxc> Hey guys.
[21:11] <xerty> jhutchins: hi, yes no problems
[21:12] <Mongo44> Has anyone here had a Linux virus?
[21:12] <zzxc> No question, just saying hello while I'm waiting for the code to compile.
[21:12] <llutz> !ot | Mongo44:  you'd better go to #linux
[21:12] <jhutchins> xerty: Try mounting the partitions from the live CD.  Try setting up a chroot and running aptitude -f install.
[21:13] <zzxc> Mongo44: Not really. But it depends on what you consider a virus. Its a pretty ambiguous term.
[21:13] <BluesKaj> Mongo44. it is possible but very unlikely
[21:14] <jhutchins> xerty: Other than that, it's time to decide how much time it's worth before you just do a clean install.
[21:14] <slash_> jhutchins: Yes, me too. But most of the people in my company don't :(
[21:14] <jhutchins> As a matter of fact there's malware going around now that takes over embedded linux devices like routers, which often don't get software updates.
[21:15] <bekks> Thats no new news, indeed :)
[21:15] <zzxc> BluesKaj: Not really, all would need is a JVM, then any system would be open season, but generally JVM based viruses only leaverage as an install method for other things outside of the virtual machine, which then would be arch and os dependent.
[21:15] <xerty> jhutchins: many hours config django server... so I'm really interested in keeping it alive
[21:16] <bekks> xerty: Boot a live cd, save your django installation, and reinstall your system.
[21:16] <jhutchins> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/28/researchers_warn_over_connected_device_malware/ <- this is supposedly not the same one that made the rounds in 2011.
[21:17] <zzxc> jhutchins: There was also the telenet thing that surfaced a while back, which is a little terrifying
[21:17] <jhutchins> xerty: Possibly mounting the partition with the django stuff on it and backing it up somewhere before you clean install.
[21:17] <Guest74907> hola
[21:17] <Weeper> hello, i am on windows. I want put linux Ubuntu latest version on USB
[21:17] <Weeper> how can i create bootable
[21:18] <Guest74907> cu-cu
[21:18] <daftykins> Weeper: pendrivelinux.com - Universal USB Installer
[21:18] <xerty> jhutchins: I'm trying chroot
[21:18] <Weeper> OK.
[21:18] <Weeper> tnx
[21:18] <nkts> como va eso
[21:19] <zzxc> jhutchins: infected devices behind a NAT would be great attack vector though. You could even use it for the CRIME or BEAST attack on ssl, which was always the issue due the amount of traffic required.
[21:19] <zzxc> Weeper: Also from ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[21:19] <belgianguy> anyone has an idea of the cadence of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Wanted/FirefoxDesktop?
[21:20] <belgianguy> I added some translations some months ago, and they have to appear I think
[21:20] <belgianguy> and they have *yet* to appear in the repo
[21:20] <jhutchins> belgianguy: Should be some contact informationon the site.
[21:21] <Weeper> is Ubuntu good for Netbook Acer aspire one AOA110? On windows xp i had problem with SSD
[21:21] <belgianguy> jhutchins: thanks!
[21:22] <belgianguy> Weeper: if it has an USB port, you could try for a general idea of how it would work, although perfomance wise, I'd say a real installation might be faster
[21:22] <belgianguy> Weeper: you can 'try without installing', but odds are you are aware of that :)
[21:22] <Weeper> but problem with ACER ASPIRE ONE is beacuse SSD 16GB is to slowly
[21:23] <belgianguy> XP was never built with consumer available SSD's in mind
[21:23] <Weeper> i wanna try ubuntu on SSD, not live version
[21:23] <zzxc> Weeper: is it just that the i/o is to slow?
[21:24] <belgianguy> Weeper: http://askubuntu.com/questions/1400/how-do-i-optimize-the-os-for-ssds
[21:25] <belgianguy> Weeper: all in all I'd expect Ubuntu to perform better, as it still integrates new technologies related to SSDs
[21:25] <Venko> Hey guys, I'm setting up an Ubuntu server to play around with. Which version do I want? The LTS?
[21:25] <belgianguy> whereas XP is pretty much EOL
[21:25] <zzxc> Venko: Most likely yes.
[21:25] <Sian> hello guys, I'm trying to format an sd card with gparted and I haven't been able to. It fails to create file system, says that device is busy(it's not mounted). what can I do?
[21:25] <xerty> jhutchins: chroot: failed to run command ‘/bin/bash’: Exec format error
[21:25] <Venko> zzxc: So that's 12.04, right?
[21:26] <bekks> xerty: 32bit livecd, and 64bit installation?
[21:26] <zzxc> Venko: Yep
[21:26] <ResQue> what command will tell me a folders total file size, im looking for something like df
[21:26] <Venko> zzxc: Is 64-bit a good call for a server or should I go with 32bit?
[21:26] <bekks> ResQue: "du"
[21:26] <llutz> ResQue:  du -sxh
[21:26] <bekks> Venko: If your hardware supports 64bit, use 64bit.
[21:26] <zzxc> I would go with the 64bit if the machine supports it.
[21:26] <sunbird> Venko: i don't think there's any reason to use 32 if your hardware supports 64.
[21:27] <ResQue> bekks: thanks dude, normal i would google it but im stcuk right now in tty trying to fix an issue
[21:27] <Venko> Alright thanks :)
[21:27] <ResQue> llutz: thanks also
[21:28] <XHEART24> hi
[21:28] <xerty> bekks: cheers. I'm starting again :)
[21:28] <XHEART24> i have ubuntu 12.04 lts , what program i download for itunes?
[21:28] <zzxc> Weeper: I don't think XP had TRIM support so that might be part of the sluggishness. Depending on how old the machine is you might want to look at a lighter flavor. But installing ubuntu generally is pretty quick so theres no harm in trying it.
[21:28] <xerty> jhutchins: best to start over
[21:29] <bekks> XHEART24: itunes is not supported in other OS rather than Windows and Mac OSX.
[21:29] <tehfox> Hi guys, Ubuntu 12.10, GNOME classic, Clock indicator applet - is it possible to keep the list of locations open when I click the clock applet? Here's what I mean: http://imgur.com/mAR39Zs
[21:30] <belgianguy> Sian: can you read from it?
[21:30] <XHEART24> ugh! no wonder i download various programs and do not work
[21:30] <XHEART24> thank you so much
[21:30] <xerty> can I use ubuntu startupdisk creator to make a USB with lubuntu, or another dist?
[21:30] <zzxc> Sian: Its been a while since I've worked with gparted, are you comfortable with commandline?
[21:30] <belgianguy> xerty: I usually use Unetbootin, the startup disk creator often fails for me
[21:31] <belgianguy> xerty: it's available for Ubuntu as well
[21:31] <zzxc> XHEART24: you can run it though wine, but then you're stuck with the windows version which isn't very good to begin with.
[21:31] <LindyThing> XHEART24: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1347
[21:31] <xerty> belgianguy: oh? well I only just recently started with it, but it's worked great the last 4 or 5 times
[21:32] <zzxc> LindyThing: Haha exactly thank you.
[21:32] <Weeper> zzxc now i run ubuntu live
[21:32] <belgianguy> xerty: Unetbootin allows to pick whatever Linux distro you like :) so creating a X/L/Ubuntu or even CentOS/Mint is all possible
[21:32] <Weeper> why i can't enter WIFI password in ascii
[21:32] <Weeper> ????
[21:32] <XHEART24> LindyThing: great site
[21:33] <Weeper> ony hex
[21:33] <belgianguy> xerty: it'll even download it for you
[21:33] <xerty> belgianguy: sounds good
[21:33] <belgianguy> Weeper: what?
[21:33] <LindyThing> XHEART24: for what it is :)
[21:33] <hitsujiTMO> Weeper: is it wep or wpa password?
[21:33] <jhutchins> Weeper: Sometimes you need to prepend a: to the ascii text.
[21:33] <XHEART24> first of all i am an older person and just got as a gift an ipod shuffle, i am using ubuntu 12.04 lts
[21:33] <Sian> belgianguy, I'm sorry, had tyo do something. and yes, the files inside are readable
[21:34] <XHEART24> i need itunes for this computer
[21:34] <Sian> zzxc, it depends of the commands
[21:34] <jhutchins> XHEART24: iTunes is designed to work only with commercial software, Windows or IOS.
[21:34] <belgianguy> xerty: it's in the repos 'apt-get install unetbootin' should get you going :)
[21:34] <LindyThing> XHEART24: you can just rockbox your shuffle and put music on it like a USB thumb drive.
[21:35] <jhutchins> XHEART24: There are music management programs for Linux that will work well with iPods, but they don't interface directly with the iTunes store.
[21:35] <LindyThing> XHEART24: that's what I would do anyway
[21:35] <belgianguy> Sian: so it's not broken :) tried it from within the 'Disks' window?
[21:35] <jhutchins> XHEART24: I believe you can still interact with the store using a browser.
[21:35] <XHEART24> i am not interest in itunes store
[21:35] <Sian> belgianguy, I'm not following, from nautilus?
[21:35] <xerty> belgianguy: I'm on the live cd
[21:35] <belgianguy> Sian: Dash > Disks
[21:35] <madabyss> So I'm testing ubuntu 13 to try openstack... How do I open the dashboard?
[21:36] <Weeper> jhutchins, problem is ony with wep
[21:36] <XHEART24> jhutchins, what program you recommend for me to interact with my ipod shuffle me using 12.04 lts?
[21:36] <Weeper> how can i change to ascii
[21:36] <Weeper> i can only enter number is textbox
[21:36] <jhutchins> XHEART24: I know Amarok will work with most iPods.
[21:37] <belgianguy> Sian: live cd is fine, it should have that, too
[21:37] <jhutchins> XHEART24: Not sure about Exaile.  I think the default gnome/unity music manage should work.
[21:37] <belgianguy> the dash is the upper most icon in Unity, with the Ubuntu logo on it
[21:37] <belgianguy> if you click it, you get a text box, and there I entered 'Disks' without the ''
[21:37] <Sian> belgianguy, I know, but there are various results, disk utility?disk analizer?
[21:38] <belgianguy> Sian: as mine's in Dutch, the logo looks like a hard drive with a wrench over it
[21:38] <XHEART24> i am downloading Amarok
[21:38] <Sian> belgianguy, here I am, but I think it isn't listed
[21:39] <Sian> belgianguy, a call, brb
[21:39] <belgianguy> Sian: ok, take a screenshot if you can, what version are you on?
[21:41] <belgianguy> Sian: it's called gnome-disks, can you run that from a terminal?
[21:42] <jhutchins> Sian: or launch gnome-disks from Alt-F2.
[21:42] <mimarcu> hello all
[21:42] <ResQue> if i want to chroot and fix grub what directories should i mount -b? i was thinking /dev /proc but i cant quite remember
[21:44] <tehfox> ResQue: I believe that those should be enough, I recall that I could restore grub with these two.
[21:44] <ResQue> tehfox: thanks i am sure there was like 4 though, defo three
[21:45] <mimarcu> hey can someone help me with making my program autostart at login on my server im a ubuntu noob :P
[21:45] <ResQue> theleft: i will give it a go and see what happends
[21:45] <tehfox> ResQue: maybe /sys ?
[21:45] <jhutchins> !fixgrub
[21:45] <ResQue> theleft: ye that sounds tright
[21:45] <tehfox> ResQue: but I think that only /proc/partitions is used when fixing grub.
[21:46] <ResQue> tehfox: thanks dude i will try it now
[21:46] <jhutchins> ResQue: Usually you want /proc, /sys, /dev, root, and /boot if seperate.
[21:46] <mimarcu> hey can someone help me with making my program autostart at login on my server im a ubuntu noob :P
[21:47] <hassen> hello
[21:47] <jhutchins> mimarcu: What program(s) are you trying to start?
[21:47] <gordonjcp> mimarcu: typically things autostart on boot
[21:47] <hassen> writing in arabic in Libre office writer(ubuntu) is hard
[21:48] <hassen> arrows are reversed,and the cursor is very unstable and annoying
[21:48] <gordonjcp> hassen: yes, it is
[21:48] <xerty> belgianguy: hi, i'm stuck remote with 1 USB live left and a dead sys disk. You think I can make unetbootin from live USB running sys to the same USB stick?
[21:48] <mimarcu> um well i was trying to auto start my minecraft server
[21:48] <fedgalaxy> clementine bugs when it is stopped, how do i fix it?
[21:48] <hassen> any one who knows an arabic text processor?
[21:48] <hassen> or an arabic language-plugin for LibeOffice writer?
[21:48] <belgianguy> xerty: hold on, can you explain your situation to me?
[21:49] <hassen> i don't want to return to windows
[21:49] <hassen> just ubuntu
[21:49] <belgianguy> xerty: I wouldn't do that, do you have an empty CD/DVD nearby?
[21:49] <belgianguy> hassen: there's a specific LibreOffice IRC channel I think
[21:50] <xerty> belgianguy: I could drive to get that ptonbably
[21:50] <xerty> belgianguy: sure is best way
[21:51] <belgianguy> xerty: so you're on a live session atm, and you want to make an USB drive with another flavour on it?
[21:51] <belgianguy> xerty: I think a live session is loaded into RAM anyway, so perhaps you could make one, even in a live session
[21:51] <Sian> belgianguy, finished my call. sorry for that, it was my mother
[21:52] <belgianguy> but cross check that with the people here
[21:52] <xerty> belgianguy: yes that's waht I mean
[21:52] <jhutchins> mimarcu: There should be an init script, or you can call it from rc.local.
[21:52] <Sian> belgianguy, ok, here I am , I will use MBR
[21:52] <jhutchins> mimarcu: That way it starts as boot whether or not you log in.
[21:53] <belgianguy> Sian: gnome-disks should list your SD drive
[21:53] <belgianguy> and tell you if it was mounted, and have some options
[21:53] <ResQue> jhutchins: thanks a lot
[21:53] <Sian> belgianguy, it does
[21:53] <belgianguy> while gParted should certainly handle that, I usually can make do with gnome-disks
[21:53] <ResQue> jhutchins: thankyou
[21:54] <jhutchins> xerty: It's theoretically possible to have a live CD image that will let you remove the disk after it's loaded, allowing you to do do things like burn a new disk.  That should be possible with USB as well.
[21:54] <belgianguy> Sian: can you select the SD card, and select the cogwheel icon?
[21:54] <belgianguy> it has the formatting options IIRC
[21:54] <zzxc> Sian: Sorry, I was going to suggest using gdisk or fdisk, to parition it, then using mkfs.ext4 (or what ever) to set a file system on it. Looks you're working it though with someone already though.
[21:54] <hassen> isn't libre office a fork of open office?or both are seperate softwares?
[21:54] <toni54321> for the firs time when i boot the dvd the mchine show only blac and purpur scren with small image doun. thats becous i have a nividia gfore grafic card. now when i make the boot the machine shou writet "ubuntu" only wthaut the instalacion opsions like "instal or try ubuntu". its intersting when i eject the dvd durring this time whith the riten "ubuntu" in the center of the schren the opsions aper imedjatly after the dvd is out
[21:54] <jhutchins> hassen: fork.
[21:54] <hassen> because i uses to see open office in old linux's
[21:54] <Sian> zzxc, don't worry
[21:54] <Sian> belgianguy, done
[21:55] <Calinou> hassen, libreoffice is a fork of openoffice indeed
[21:55] <hassen> Calinou, jhutchins i see
[21:56] <belgianguy> Sian: what format were you wanting to format it in?
[21:56] <Sian> belgianguy, fat32
[21:56] <belgianguy> xerty: the CD/DVD approach is certainly safer, as if you ruin your live usb, you don't have anything to start from
[21:57] <Rory> .
[21:57] <belgianguy> Sian: is the device unmounted? (is there a triangle showing as first icon?)
[21:57] <echevemaster> Naudy you're around?
[21:57] <belgianguy> (a mounted drive would have a square, a stop sign, whereas a triangle is mount it, a play sign)
[21:57] <toni54321> for the firs time when i boot the dvd the mchine show only blac and purpur scren with small image doun. thats becous i have a nividia gfore grafic card. now when i make the boot the machine shou writet "ubuntu" only wthaut the instalacion opsions like "instal or try ubuntu". its intersting when i eject the dvd durring this time whith the riten "ubuntu" in the center of the schren the opsions aper imedjatly after the dvd is out
[21:58] <jhutchins> mimarcu: I think there are some examples on the web, I'd start with those.
[21:58] <jhutchins> mimarcu: Might even be in the /user/share/docs/<whatever> files for the package.
[21:58] <Emerling> en #ubuntu-meeting
[21:58] <Sian> belgianguy, I don't know what do you mean with squares and trianglwes, but the sd is mounted
[21:58] <Calinou> toni54321, woah, spell better, it's hard to understand
[21:59] <xerty> belgianguy: thanks for help
[21:59] <jhutchins> toni54321: Make sure the md5sum of the iso you downloaded matches the signatures on the web site, and make sure that the disk you burned matches as well.
[21:59] <toni54321> calinou ok
[21:59] <belgianguy> oops
[21:59] <jhutchins> toni54321: The installer should work fine on an nvidia system.  It uses lower level graphics that are common to all chipsetes.
[22:00] <Calinou> jhutchins, it doesn't actually
[22:00] <fabio> oi
[22:00] <belgianguy> Sian: if you have gnome-disks open
[22:00] <belgianguy> and your sd card selected
[22:00] <Calinou> the installer uses the open source graphics driver "nouveau", which _is_ accelerated, both in 2D and 3D
[22:00] <belgianguy> to the right are its partitions and general information
[22:00] <jhutchins> Calinou: Are you telling me that Ubuntu has distributed an installer that won't work on an nvidia system?
[22:00] <Calinou> the 3D acceleration however is slow, and the driver may not always be stable (it is a reverse engineered driver which gets very little help from nvidia)
[22:01] <belgianguy> 2 icons left from the cogwheels
[22:01] <LtRipley> when i go to "Software & Updates" the tool just crashes, is that any priority in bugfixing?
[22:01] <toni54321> yes i want to make the modest instalacion but whe push the down arow nothind hapen
[22:01] <Calinou> jhutchins, it will work the vast majority of times
[22:01] <jhutchins> Calinou: I'm talking about the actual installer.
[22:01] <Calinou> the live CD/USBs use the open source drivers
[22:01] <jhutchins> toni54321: Make sure the md5sum of the iso you downloaded matches the signatures on the web site, and make sure that the disk you burned matches as well.
[22:01] <Calinou> only the command line installer would not use any real graphic driver, I think
[22:02] <Beldar> LtRipley, Can you run apt-get?
[22:02] <LtRipley> when this bugreporting tool then appears and i go on continue it seems to be crashign as well
[22:02] <belgianguy> Sian: we want to unmount it  before we format it :)
[22:02] <belgianguy> that's what I'm trying to explain
[22:02] <jhutchins> Calinou: The "live" installer uses X, but the normal one doesn't.
[22:02] <LtRipley> Beldar: in theory yes, for one package i get a 403 though
[22:03] <jhutchins> belgianguy: Wouldn't this be easier from the CLI?
[22:03] <Calinou> ah
[22:03] <Sian> belgianguy, this is what I have at the right http://i.imm.io/1lD8X.png
[22:03] <toni54321> ok boys what u thin that i have too do?
[22:03] <LtRipley> Beldar: actually my intention was to change the source, thats why i started software & bupdates in the first place
[22:03] <Beldar> LtRipley, Hmm, I am wondering if this is not a broken setup rather than a bug.
[22:03] <jhutchins> toni54321: I've told you twice.  Corrupt graphics in the installer is usually a bad image.
[22:04] <jhutchins> toni54321: That or the hardware is bad.
[22:04] <belgianguy> Sian: is that gnome-disks?
[22:04] <LtRipley> Beldar: it crashes... shouldn't it be an error message or something if it was a broken setup?
[22:04] <LtRipley> LtRipley: and the bug reporting tool crashes as well...
[22:04] <hassen> doh...
[22:04] <LtRipley> äh that shouldn't be directed to myself :D
[22:04] <hassen> i think that i don't have the time
[22:04] <Beldar> LtRipley, YOU can make a package list here and change the repos with it.
[22:04] <Beldar> http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[22:04] <hassen> i'll get open office and use it in win7 then..
[22:05]  * hassen is switching to Win7
[22:05] <LtRipley> Beldar: what do you mean?
[22:05]  * hassen is restarting 
[22:05]  * hassen : bye
[22:05] <toni54321> ok ok but i cant do any thing with that infformacins
[22:05] <Sian> belgianguy, there are actually no exact match for a package called like that
[22:05] <Beldar> LtRipley, look at the site, you can change the sources.list by opening it from the terminal.
[22:06] <LtRipley> isn't it still a bug that should be fixed?
[22:06] <belgianguy> Sian: ah, that's too bad, then what version are you on?
[22:06] <Beldar> LtRipley, Have you done any partial upgrades?
[22:06] <Sian> belgianguy, 13.10, either way I found some other possible match
[22:06] <LtRipley> Beldar: like in 'trying an upgrade and the power went off'? yes
[22:07] <Sian> belgianguy, http://i.imm.io/1lDa5.png
[22:07] <Beldar> LtRipley, Ah, that is not good, I mean there are upgrades where packages are held waiting for dependencies, if run it can break the OS.
[22:08] <Beldar> LtRipley, I'm talking about upgrades within the release.
[22:08] <LtRipley> Beldar: what do you mean with 'partial upgrade' then?
[22:08] <Beldar> LtRipley,  I mean there are upgrades where packages are held waiting for dependencies, if run it can break the OS
[22:08] <Ilmen2> Hi
[22:09] <belgianguy> Sian: that's the one
[22:09] <belgianguy> firt unmount and then format
[22:09] <Beldar> LtRipley, The upgrade manager will tell you it's a partial, from the terminal it is more subtle.
[22:09] <LtRipley> Beldar: if who runs what?
[22:09] <LtRipley> Beldar: isn't the upgrade manager the tool that just crashes?
[22:09] <Beldar> LtRipley, Not sure I understand that question.
[22:10] <LtRipley> i rephrase it: What is the upgrade manager?
[22:10] <Sian> belgianguy, hmm, I can't specify format, just FAT, not fat 16 or 32
[22:10] <jhutchins> mimarcu: It's better to keep the conversation within the channel, sometimes I don't notice PM windows for days.
[22:10] <mimarcu> oh okay
[22:11] <Beldar> LtRipley, there is a gui for updates and upgrade, 12.04 it is still called the update manager above that it's called software updatewr.
[22:11] <Sian> belgianguy, doesn't matter, it seems FAT is FAT32
[22:11] <jhutchins> mimarcu: Also, if I have to do actual work someone else might have an aswer.
[22:11] <Ilmen2> Why does left click over menu work the same way as left-click and trigger the action of the hovered menu entry? I'm using Ubuntu 13.10 and when I do single right clicks on the desktop it creates an untitled folder, because the top menu entry is selected as soon as I release the right button, which is rather annoying
[22:11] <jhutchins> answer even.
[22:11] <jeanmarc> gg
[22:11] <belgianguy> Sian: yeah, I was double checking that
[22:11] <jeanmarc> lxle
[22:12] <Sian> belgianguy, thank you, I was able to do it :)
[22:12] <mimarcu> i just used you tube and i think it has what im looking for sudo apt-get sysv
[22:12] <belgianguy> Sian: glad to help!
[22:12] <w0rmie> my ethernet card isn't detected and when i type (sudo lshw -class network) i get the message network DISABLED
[22:12] <w0rmie> any ideas about how to enable?
[22:13] <LtRipley> Beldar: how do i start it?
[22:13] <Beldar> LtRipley, try these two commands. sudo dpkg --configure -a  sudo apt-get -f install
[22:13] <daftykins> w0rmie: can you paste.ubuntu.com the output of "lspci" and "ifconfig -a" ?
[22:13] <mimarcu> *apt-get install sysv-rc-conf thanks for the help though :D
[22:13] <LtRipley> Beldar: what are those supposed to do?
[22:13] <rypervenche> w0rmie: lspci -nn | grep Network
[22:13] <Beldar> LtRipley, run them and pastebin the output include the commands
[22:13] <rypervenche> w0rmie: What does that output?
[22:14] <belgianguy> jhutchins: I usually use GUI for tasks with lots of options, I find it easier to explain and it is a little more reproducible for those who want to repeat it later in a slightly different scenario
[22:14] <LtRipley> Beldar: what are they supposed to do?
[22:14] <hikenboot> anyone know of an advanced GUI based find and replace for unix that has features such as rollbacks, cross platform character support, macros, variables, etc, etc, there used to be one that I had access to on a unix mainframe about 30 years ago and it did an excellent job...too bad I can't remember what it was called! Anyone know of any such utility?
[22:14] <Beldar> LtRipley, Those unlock a locked or update with broken packages.
[22:15] <LtRipley> Beldar: my main question was about that broken update tool, which i still consider an issue
[22:16] <Beldar> LtRipley, Yes I know, but your not knowing of what of some of what I have mentioned and a apt-get that fails makes me think you have a broken package stoppage, you also mention a power off in a upgrade.
[22:16] <w0rmie> rypervenche: after typing the command, nothing..
[22:17] <rypervenche> w0rmie: Try it with sudo in front of the lspci?
[22:17] <Beldar> LtRipley, The symptom of these crashes indicated this possibility.
[22:17] <evoluketion> hello
[22:17] <w0rmie> rypervenche: the same
[22:17] <rypervenche> w0rmie: Also make sure to use a capital N in Network.
[22:17] <LtRipley> Beldar: it fails because i get a 403 from the university of twente. To me it looks like my source has a problem, not me
[22:18] <LtRipley> Beldar: the two commands you gave me don't indicate any problem or anything to be fixed
[22:18] <Beldar> LtRipley, Alright then I tried, carry on. ;)
[22:18] <LtRipley> thanks
[22:19] <w0rmie> rypervenche: oh yeah, with capital letter N (Network) ;) the message is: 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter [168c:0032] (rev 01)
[22:20] <Ilmen2> Each time I do a right click somewhere it creates an untitled folder, that's annoying; is there a way to prevent mouse's right-button release to behave as a left click in desktop / browsing right-click menu?
[22:20] <Ilmen2> Or perhaps it has something to do with my mouse
[22:21] <omg_scout> I do not have a solution for that, but I find it exceptionally annoying on laptop touchpad
[22:21] <gosc> A??>
[22:21] <rypervenche> w0rmie: uname -a and what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[22:21] <Ilmen2> At least I'm not the only one experiencing this :)
[22:22] <daftykins> Ilmen2: maybe your mouse is getting old and acting funny
[22:22] <Ilmen2> It doesn't behaves this way under Windows
[22:23] <Beldar> LtRipley, you can open that crashing software sources with this command and look for errors. software-properties-gtk
[22:23] <gotchagotcha> can someone help me figure out why `tail -F /var/log/kern.log` isn't following the log? I have to manually refresh it by pressing Ctrl+C and calling it again
[22:23] <CarlFK> how do I create a shortcut to an app on my desktop ?
[22:24] <CarlFK> gotchagotcha: -f
[22:24] <rypervenche> w0rmie: sudo lsb_release -a will tell you what version if you are not sure.
[22:24] <CarlFK> gotchagotcha: hmm, -F is same..
[22:25] <gotchagotcha> CarlFK: yeah, tail will follow /tmp/dummy, but not /var/log/kern.log, neither /var/log/dummy.log
[22:25] <blistov> installed ubuntu 13.10 with secure boot enabled, but now I had to disable secure boot, and of course cannot boot ubuntu anymore.
[22:25] <gotchagotcha> I even tried `sudo tail -F /var/log/kern.log`, idk.
[22:26] <blistov> anyone know if there's a way to get rid of shim at grub?
[22:26] <w0rmie> rypervenche: i am using ubuntu saucy mini 13.10
[22:26] <rypervenche> w0rmie: And what does "uname -a" output?
[22:26] <w0rmie> rypervenche: i've installed it in command-line mode
[22:26] <w0rmie> Linux s0cluster 3.11.0-14-generic #21-Ubuntu SMP **date** **time** UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:27] <w0rmie> it's a DELL XPS 8700 with 12GB of RAM and 8cores CPU
[22:28] <tj-main> Hi all, I am trying to install a driver for an audio interface (Gadget Labs Wave 824). I have to do it from source, and the README says to have /usr/src/linux be a symbolic link to the kernel headers. I've tried making that link to /lib/modules/../include/linux and the two in /usr/src/../include/linux but make still fails saying "no rule to make target 'modules'". can anyone tell me what i'm doing wrong?
[22:30] <Beldar> LtRipley, this might be helpful, the mirror was working two hours ago, does the 403 have any mention of a missing key?  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/ftp.snt.utwente.nl-release
[22:31] <LtRipley> Beldar: http://pastebin.com/KdzevMYV
[22:31] <rypervenche> w0rmie: Hmmm, I'm still looking. You might need a different kernel. Can you run this for me, "ls /sys/class/net" and tell me what it outputs.
[22:31] <LtRipley> Beldar: i had the problem already days ago
[22:32] <Beldar> LtRipley, Is that a ppa?
[22:32] <LtRipley> Beldar: don't think so
[22:32] <Beldar> LtRipley, Did you add it to the sources.list?
[22:33] <w0rmie> rypervenche: lo p3p1 wlan0 (even the wlan0 is shown distabled using lshw -class network)
[22:33] <rypervenche> w0rmie: Do you have a wifi disable switch on your computer, or a toggle on your keyboard?
[22:35] <w0rmie> rypervenche: no i haven't
[22:35] <rypervenche> w0rmie: This is a laptop, yes?
[22:35] <LtRipley> Beldar: not manually, i chose university of twente at some point in some shiny gui tool
[22:35] <Beldar> LtRipley, Can you run this command and pastebin all the info. grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}
[22:35] <LtRipley> Beldar: which is why i wanted to change it now, but the tool crashes
[22:36] <Beldar> LtRipley, Having that ardour in there looks like a added repo is all.
[22:36] <rypervenche> w0rmie: Ok, not a laptop, I'll keep looking.
[22:36] <LtRipley> Beldar: i think ardour is in the main repo
[22:36] <LtRipley> Beldar: but the problem at hand is that the GUI tool crashes
[22:37] <Beldar> LtRipley, May be but it should be a command that gets it not a address
[22:37] <w0rmie> rypervenche: entreprise workstation (Desktop) for medium entreprises with 2TB of HDD, 12GB of RAM, 8 cores of CPU 3.4Ghz each one
[22:37] <shanahan> how do i enable verbose startup in 12.04?    remove "quiet splash" int eh grub or is it something else?'
[22:37] <LtRipley> Beldar: i don't understand what you are saying
[22:37] <Beldar> LtRipley, Yes I know a messed up sources will cause that crash.
[22:37] <rypervenche> w0rmie: sudo rfkill unblock wifi
[22:37] <LtRipley> Beldar: it should not
[22:37] <rypervenche> w0rmie: See if that does anything for you.
[22:38] <tj-main> Hi all, I am trying to install a driver for an audio interface (Gadget Labs Wave 824). I have to do it from source, and the README says to have /usr/src/linux be a symbolic link to the kernel headers. I've tried making that link to /lib/modules/../include/linux and the two in /usr/src/../include/linux but make still fails saying "no rule to make target 'modules'". can anyone tell me what i'm doing wrong?
[22:39] <w0rmie> rypervenche: ok dude, take your time
[22:39] <LtRipley> i am also quite concerned that after this main ubuntu tool crashed, the bug reporting tool seems to have crashed as well
[22:39] <LtRipley> otherwise i wouldn't be nagging about it in here so much
[22:40] <Beldar> LtRipley, I think you are obsessed with the cause, and not realizing the effect to be honest.
[22:40] <rypervenche> w0rmie: Try the command in my last comment.
[22:40] <Beldar> just a guess, but things happen.
[22:41] <Beldar> LtRipley, Sorry I have that backwards the effect and not the cause
[22:41] <w0rmie> rypervenche: rfkill isn't found o.O
[22:41] <rypervenche> w0rmie: install it.
[22:42] <LtRipley> Beldar: i consider a Segmentation fault always a bug, which cannot be justified by malformed input. Which i probably isn't even the case
[22:42] <Beldar> LtRipley, have you run software-properties-gtk  and looked for errors
[22:43] <LtRipley> Beldar: this tool will just give me a fancy python stacktrace
[22:43] <LtRipley> Beldar: i am not sure whether that is supposed to do that
[22:44] <Beldar> LtRipley, Heh, you have all the answers, good luck.
[22:44] <LtRipley> doesn't feel like it
[22:45] <Beldar> Don't bother posting to me I wil not see it
[22:45] <LtRipley> guess i made a friend there...
[22:45] <Josethcortez> hi!
[22:46] <zzxc> \q
[22:47] <LtRipley> ... the tool i am supposed to run is the one i reported to be crashing in the first place....
[22:49] <LtRipley> i would report the bug to launchpad, but those bugs i reported there were just lying around for a couple of years just to be closed because 'the version is not supported anymore'
[22:53] <ThorKans> hello all
[22:54] <LtRipley> hello
[22:58] <mr-rich> Hello. Ubuntu server 12.04 (i think ... it's running kernel 3.2.0-generic) ... I have a scrip I was running on a rehat based box (kernel 2.4.?) that used ipcalc -n to return the network. ipcalc on Ubuntu is waaaaay different. I need to find a version of ipcalc that works like the one on redhat so I can move the script to a Ubuntu server box ... any ideas?
[23:00] <LtRipley> http://pastebin.com/RSSy0G7N
[23:01] <LtRipley> this is the stacktrace i get from software-properties-gtk
[23:01] <schultza> what does nemo use to find network shares? (samba shares in particular)
[23:01] <Guest51309> can  find my Screenshot shoul hav camer ?
[23:03] <supergauntlet> schultza: what do you mean?
[23:06] <schultza> im trying to troubleshoot a samba issue. nemo is only seeing so many smb servers. yet.. nbtscan sees more.
[23:07] <bekks> thats more a nemo issue then :)
[23:07] <wad> I'm trying to get my new install of Ubuntu to work, but by screen is blank on boot. It's an NVidia video card. Googling showed me this, so I'm trying method #2: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-ringtail-nvidia.html
[23:07] <schultza> same with ubuntu default file browser too
[23:08] <bekks> !nomodeset | wad
[23:08] <wad> Yes, that's how I can get to a shell: nomodeset. But I don't get X.
[23:08] <wad> Only shell.
[23:08] <wad> I'll read that link, though.
[23:10] <wad> Okay, yeah, so I use nomodeset to get to a shell, and I'm trying to install the nvidia drivers from the shell, using method 2 from the link: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-ringtail-nvidia.html
[23:10] <wad> But the driver doesn't seem to be appearing in the kernel.
[23:10] <Mitizaro> HEllo there lads!! Does anyone here have idea on the REMOVAL OF "NVIDIAFB"
[23:10] <wad> modprobe fails.
[23:10] <wad> Can't find the driver.
[23:11] <kosmo_> Hi, I just installed my first ubuntu server, with deluge on, and my problem is I cant't download torrents. I can add torrent then it appears on downlaoding but got 0% all time. I guess its connected with permissions but did not found any helpful informations.
[23:11] <bekks> wad: then it isnt installed.
[23:11] <wad> Yes, that's the same conclusion I've come to.
[23:11] <bekks> wad: which ubuntu do you have?
[23:11] <wad> 13.10
[23:11] <wad> the latest and greatest!
[23:11] <wad> :)
[23:12] <daftykins> kosmo_: did you pick a path within /home/username/ to download to?
[23:12] <bekks> wad: name the version please.
[23:12] <wad> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current     #### that command did a bunch of stuff
[23:12] <Mitizaro> Someone has idea on  removing nvidiafb? (super old non-ubuntu nvidia driver that gets installed even though i format the whole drive and it should not be included in 12.04)
[23:12] <wad> ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[23:12] <wad> bekks ^^^
[23:14] <kosmo_> daftykins: I tried different paths, and all didn't work I tried /home/myusername, triend /home/deluge/ ( I created seluge user before installation as guide said)
[23:14] <daftykins> kosmo_: so are you sure you didn't miss anything in the guide?
[23:15] <bekks> wad: pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current" please.
[23:15] <wad> Okay! Give me a moment.
[23:16] <kosmo_> daftykins: I'm quite sure, what is more downlaod feature was working some time ago, but I had to do some server reboots and I changed destination folder as it stops.
[23:16] <daftykins> kosmo_: are you using a known-good test torrent like an ubuntu one?
[23:17] <LtRipley> :q
[23:17] <LtRipley> http://askubuntu.com/questions/365958/error-while-running-software-related-programs-expected-gobject-object-but-got
[23:17] <LtRipley> looks like others have the same problem
[23:18] <kosmo_> daftykins: Im using torrent which I tested the same time on another machine, private tracker if it matters.
[23:18] <daftykins> kosmo_: so try a public ubuntu one for sanity's sake
[23:20] <kosmo_> daftykins: still 0 kb/s
[23:20] <haha> good morning...
[23:21] <daftykins> kosmo_: well, i'm not familiar with that client to know if it has any errors to tell you of. are you behind a normal residential internet connection?
[23:21] <dogmantik> hello, not really ubuntu problem, but hoping someone might help me out, this happened when I was upgrading ubuntu to 13.10 now
[23:22] <kosmo_> daftykins: Im behind notebook with ssh acces to server, its in my house.
[23:22] <dogmantik> the screen frooze and I restarted my computer in the middle of upgrade, it wouldnt boot
[23:22] <dogmantik> so I figured time to reformat
[23:22] <dogmantik> but now my computer wont start with my harddrive connected
[23:22] <dogmantik> cant even get to bios when its connected
[23:23] <dogmantik> now im on ubuntu live usb, when i plug in my disk i get errors like
[23:23] <dogmantik> [  191.344575] ata1: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x4080000 action 0xe frozen
[23:23] <dogmantik> [  191.344587] ata1: irq_stat 0x00000040, connection status changed
[23:23] <dogmantik> [  191.344595] ata1: SError: { 10B8B DevExch }
[23:23] <dogmantik> [  191.344608] ata1: hard resetting link
[23:23] <dogmantik> [  201.350731] ata1: softreset failed (1st FIS failed)
[23:23] <hitsujiTMO> dogmantik: sounds like the drive fried
[23:23] <FloodBot1> dogmantik: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:23] <wad> bekks, this time it didn't do all the kernel build sort of stuff that it did the first time. I ran this command: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current > n 2>&1" resulting in this output: http://wadhome.org/~wad/n
[23:23] <dogmantik> I get that feeling to hitsujiTMO :P
[23:23] <wad> Actually, let me install openssh-server, so I can get output more easily... 1 sec
[23:24] <hitsujiTMO> dogmantik: i hope its not new
[23:24] <dogmantik> do you know if theres some way to test the hard drive?
[23:24] <daftykins> kosmo_: http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/Faq#EnableDelugeLogging
[23:24] <daftykins> seems worth a go
[23:24] <kosmo_> http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/Faq#EnableDelugeLogging
[23:24] <dogmantik> not really, 60gb ssd I got for free, so its not the biggest loss in that way
[23:24] <hitsujiTMO> dogmantik: smartctl, but if you're getting that just connection then i'd say the controller is gone
[23:24] <kosmo_> http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/Faq#EnableDelugeLogging
[23:24] <kosmo_> http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/Faq#EnableDelugeLogging
[23:24] <dogmantik> but I was hoping to install new ubuntu today :D
[23:24] <kosmo_> sorry
[23:24] <FloodBot1> kosmo_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:25] <wad> Ah, much better. Now I can do stuff faster on the command line!
[23:25] <kosmo_> its my first time with irssi sr floodbot
[23:25] <dogmantik> yeah I guess its pretty messed up since I cant even get into bios when its plugged in now hitsujiTMO
[23:25] <dogmantik> is smartctl even something worth trying?
[23:26] <dogmantik> and, is that part of some other package? didnt find smartctl with apt on the live usb
[23:26] <bekks> dogmantik: Its not messed up, it is broken - electrically.
[23:26] <dogmantik> bummer
[23:26] <hitsujiTMO> dogmantik: yeah, if its doing that then it could even be an issue with the chipset/ata controller tho. but given that its a 60 gb drive then hopefully its just died of old age
[23:27] <hitsujiTMO> dogmantik: smartmontools iirc
[23:28] <dogmantik> I think its a bit of my own fault as well, I was moving data from that disk to another while updating ubuntu on the disk the same time
[23:28] <dogmantik> and the screen just frooze and then this happened
[23:28] <kosmo_> daftykins: which loglvl should I choose? Well, maybe you know some good nooblinux tutorials I tried some but were not very usefull
[23:28] <daftykins> kosmo_: try 'error'
[23:29] <daftykins> kosmo_: then if that doesn't create a log with enough description of what's wrong, move up to 'info'
[23:29] <dogmantik> thanks hitsujiTMO, no use with smartctl as suspected though since the device wont even get a name under /dev
[23:30] <hitsujiTMO> dogmantik: yeah, hopefully its just the controller on the drive that's died and not something in the motherboard
[23:30] <dogmantik> well, time to look into buying a new disk then
[23:31] <dogmantik> gonna try start up some other old disk to see
[23:31] <dogmantik> if its the motherboard i might as well use my laptop and forget about gaming for some time until i saved up money for a new desktop :D
[23:32] <dogmantik> well, thanks for your help hitsujiTMO, time to do some testing
[23:35] <wad> bekks, got any suggestions for me to try, for getting my nvidia drivers installed?
[23:35] <wad> bekks, I'm in a much better position to do stuff now, can ssh into the machine. :)
[23:35] <usr13> wad: What is your video card?
[23:35] <bekks> wad: pastebin the requested information.
[23:36] <usr13> wad: What does lspci say about it?
[23:36] <wad> bekks, here is the output of that command: http://wadhome.org/~wad/n
[23:36] <kosmo_> daftykins: its like: deluge is not installed yet, :sudo  deluge - command not found; I used deluged command with result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6527265/
[23:36] <wad> usr13, let me get the name, 1 sec
[23:36] <bekks> wad: And please pastebin "sudo modprobe nvidia; dmesg" please.
[23:37] <wad> NVIDIA GeForce GT755M GDDR5 2GB
[23:38] <wad> usr13, that's the video card
[23:38] <bekks> wad: do you have an Optimus system?
[23:38] <wad> bekks, no, I don't think so. Not sure what that is.
[23:39] <bekks> wad: a hybrid graphics system, consisting of an intel and nvidia GPU.
[23:39] <wad> getting dmesg
[23:40] <wad> ah
[23:40] <wad> Here is the output of dmesg: http://wadhome.org/~wad/d
[23:41] <daftykins> kosmo_: but you did install it? you're using it via its' web admin page, right?
[23:41] <bekks> wad: the kernel module is loaded.
[23:41] <Guest14851> What would be causing "Display" to open every time my screen brightness changes? I'm using Xubuntu 13.04, 32 bit, on an HP Envy M6
[23:41] <wad> Aha!
[23:41] <usr13> wad: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia*list | pastebinit
[23:41] <wad> ok
[23:41] <kosmo_> daftykins: I can use via webadmin page, but I use deamon client
[23:42] <wad> /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-304.list /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-current.list /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-settings-304.list
[23:42] <wad> usr13, it fit on one line, so I just put it in-channel. Same number of lines as a pastebin link.
[23:42] <daftykins> kosmo_: i don't follow. you know that to run it with debug logging you have to stop it and run it again with the logging on?
[23:43] <kosmo_> daftykins: well I didn't know that. Letme try again.
[23:43] <wad> I just installed pastebinit, what a good idea!
[23:44] <Anuska> what is the best solution tu install apache+mysql+php all
[23:44] <mikodo> Hi, If I install an older stable compiz FM and compositor, like 0.8.8 in a newer Xubuntu 14.04 when it comes out or in Debian Testing Xfce, will those update to newer versions of compiz, without my requesting that? (Newer versions are not stable according to the site) http://wiki.compiz.org/Installation
[23:45] <usr13> wad: What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[23:45] <wad> ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[23:45] <usr13> wad: Fully updated?
[23:45] <wad> Yes
[23:46] <usr13> wad: sudo apt-get remove nvidia* ; go to nvidia.com ; download correct installer ; turn off X with command sudo service lightdm stop ; run installer ; reboot
[23:46] <jintonation> What would be causing "Display" to open every time my screen brightness changes
[23:46] <wad> Okay, I'll do it!
[23:46] <kosmo_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6527297/
[23:47] <wad> usr13, I have no X on the machine right now, only shell.
[23:48] <usr13> wad: remove nvidia drivers ; rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; restart X, or reboot
[23:48] <wad> Okay!
[23:48] <daftykins> kosmo_: yeah that suggests it's still running. sorry but i don't think you know enough about general operation for me to help further
[23:49] <kosmo_> daftykins:  :( ok no problem, but my last question is can you possibly give me some guidlines?
[23:49] <kosmo_> daftykins: I mean tutorials or smth or good website
[23:49] <daftykins> i don't know of any, sorry :(
[23:50] <kosmo_> daftykins: lol, so how you got to know Linux?
[23:51] <wad> usr13, I hope this installer can run from the command line, and not need X running....
[23:51] <daftykins> kosmo_: university
[23:51] <daftykins> and i wouldn't really say i know it as well as i'd like
[23:51] <daftykins> nowhere near
[23:52] <usr13> wad: Are you 32bit or 64bit?
[23:52] <daftykins> but anyway this is off topic for this channel unfortunately
[23:52] <wad> 64
[23:53] <usr13> wad: http://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDownload-March2009/confirmation.php?url=/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/331.20/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-331.20.run&lang=us&type=GeForce
[23:53] <wad> Yup , that's the one I got.
[23:53] <wad> Running it now.
[23:53] <usr13> wad: Good.  It should work for you.  Trun off the X server and run the installer.
[23:54] <wad> Should I run it as root?
[23:54] <usr13> wad: But uninstall all other nvidia packages first and reboot.
[23:54] <wad> I just tried that, and it hated me.
[23:54] <wad> Ah, okay.
[23:54]  * wad does that
[23:54] <usr13> wad: You just tried what?
[23:54] <wad> usr13, I made it executable, and ran it as root.
[23:55] <wad> But I hadn't rebooted since removing the old nvidia stuff.... doing that now.
[23:55] <wad> I'll try running it as my user next.
[23:55] <wad> damn it boots fast.
[23:56] <sfj> Any laptop users here?
[23:56] <wad> lol, it must be run as root.
[23:56]  * wad does that.
[23:56] <usr13> wad: Correct
[23:57] <sfj> I just got my W530 and I'm looking to learn more about Linux.  Trying to decide if it would be a better bet to try to optimize Windows for low resource usage and run VirtualBox with Linux distros, or use a Linux distro as a host and VirtualBox Windows when/if I need it
[23:57] <sfj> Mostly considering battery life here
[23:58] <sfj> I didn't know if a kernel had been released that allows for similar battery life on Windows and Linux
[23:59] <daftykins> sfj: bear in mind that you have to restart a Windows host monthly for patch Tuesday