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| harmw | smoser: (or whoever maintains DataSourceAltCloud.py) | 15:56 |
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| harmw | would this be a nice litle fix in terms of consistency? | 15:57 |
| harmw | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6530317/ | 15:57 |
| harmw | I noticed this beeing done in one of the other modules | 15:57 |
| smoser | (generally, i dont care for the 'which' business at all | 15:57 |
| smoser | ie, execve does exactly that for me. | 15:58 |
| smoser | which woudl check that the program is available, but theere is no reason to hard code paths | 15:58 |
| smoser | that make sense ? | 15:58 |
| harmw | totally | 15:58 |
| smoser | hard coding paths just breaks stuff. | 15:58 |
| harmw | agreed | 15:58 |
| harmw | the solution just needs to be consequently applied, thats all :) | 15:58 |
| smoser | yeah. | 16:00 |
| harlowja | hi spandhe ! | 19:39 |
| harlowja | https://code.launchpad.net/~shraddha-pandhe/cloud-init/debug-module/+merge/198119/comments/459151 (fyi) | 19:39 |
| harlowja | spandhe ^ | 19:39 |
| harlowja | thx smoser :) | 19:39 |
| spandhe | thanks smoser ! Going through the comments. | 19:41 |
| smoser | harlowja, you think those make sense ? | 19:42 |
| smoser | just more and more i'm trying to namepsace module config | 19:42 |
| harlowja | sure | 19:42 |
| harlowja | i think thats fine with me | 19:42 |
| harlowja | +2 | 19:42 |
| harlowja | :) | 19:42 |
| harlowja | spandhe if it doesn't make sense, feel free to ask :) | 19:46 |
| smoser | in fact, if you think i make sense more than 1/2 the time, something is probably wrong. | 20:03 |
| harlowja | hahaha | 20:07 |
| spandhe | smoser: It does make sense :) | 20:24 |
| harlowja | smoser http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-December/021482.html :) | 20:28 |
| smoser | i really think unified guest is just plain silly. | 20:29 |
| smoser | err... unified guest agent. | 20:29 |
| harlowja | possibly, haha | 20:29 |
| smoser | there are hunderds of perfectly functional "agents" that run in a guest | 20:30 |
| smoser | * puppet | 20:30 |
| smoser | * chef | 20:30 |
| smoser | * sshd | 20:30 |
| smoser | * jujud | 20:30 |
| harlowja | sure sure | 20:30 |
| harlowja | guess it depends on the use-case, for that kind of stuff i agree | 20:30 |
| harlowja | and one to rule them all, seems highly unlikely | 20:31 |
| harlowja | *depends on what the agent is doing i guess* | 20:32 |
| harlowja | *or what the agent wants to do | 20:32 |
| smoser | what does "VMs are not accessible from controller." mean? | 20:32 |
| harlowja | my guess is not accesible easily from control network (which i guess is where savanna runs) | 20:33 |
| harlowja | so isolated control network from vm network, means savanna can't actually do that ssh | 20:33 |
| harlowja | although not enabling ssh access seems odd | 20:34 |
| smoser | or it maybe means that savanaa has no business being on the control network | 20:35 |
| smoser | :) | 20:35 |
| harlowja | right | 20:35 |
| harlowja | so that might be what it means, not 100% sure either, my interpretation, ha | 20:35 |
| smoser | no. | 20:35 |
| smoser | i think your interpretation is right | 20:35 |
| smoser | but what i'ms aying is "why was savanah not operating on the tenant network" | 20:36 |
| smoser | which clearly has access to the tenant machines | 20:36 |
| harlowja | sure, its a good question | 20:36 |
| harlowja | probably complicates savanna deployments i would think | 20:36 |
| harlowja | or would require savanna to open some connection to tenant network before it would do some work | 20:37 |
| harlowja | *which i guess is setup hadoop | 20:37 |
| harlowja | said temporary access might not be possible (almost requires something like oauth, which allows limited application access to work on behalf of a user for a given time) | 20:38 |
| harlowja | so i guess then there idea of we'll just bypass all that with a agent :-P | 20:39 |
| smoser | ewll, in this case i'm mainly just arguing that savanah has no business as part of openstack | 20:39 |
| smoser | rather than "juju deploy hadoop" | 20:39 |
| smoser | (which needs no such special access) | 20:39 |
| smoser | or "ansible make me hadoop" | 20:39 |
| harlowja | u won't get any disagreement from me there :-P | 20:39 |
| harlowja | or create instnaces with tiny hadoop setup userdata script | 20:40 |
| harlowja | :-/ | 20:40 |
| smoser | trove somewhat seems more valid. | 20:40 |
| smoser | but really, i dont see any reason why you need a transport mechanism that is not ipv4 | 20:40 |
| smoser | it turns out lots of things use ipv4 | 20:40 |
| smoser | and its pretty reliable | 20:40 |
| smoser | i think i'm even chatting with you over it! | 20:40 |
| harlowja | for real? | 20:41 |
| harlowja | haha | 20:41 |
| harlowja | ipv4 -> nsa -> irc | 20:41 |
| smoser | exactly. | 20:41 |
| harlowja | ya, hehe, the amount of projects in openstack that something like juju already does is a little weird, i agree | 20:42 |
| harlowja | juju, ansible, .... [500+ others] | 20:42 |
| harlowja | anyways, its openstack, never know what it will do at anytime, haha | 20:46 |
| smoser | right | 20:47 |
| smoser | i dont think juju is special | 20:47 |
| smoser | i just use it because thats what i'm told to use | 20:47 |
| smoser | :) | 20:47 |
| harlowja | of course | 20:47 |
| harlowja | i don't think rolesdb, pogo (yahoo things) are special either | 20:47 |
| harlowja | *which serve similar purposes as juju | 20:47 |
| harlowja | machine gets a role [role being a list of packages that it will have, for ex: mysql_server, blah blah], pogo can be used to ensure role gets onto instance... | 20:48 |
| harlowja | yada yada, ha | 20:48 |
| harmw | smoser: https://code.launchpad.net/~harm-o/cloud-init/freebsd | 21:32 |
| harmw | i've hacked up some code for fbsd | 21:32 |
| harmw | perhaps you can take a peak at it some time :) | 21:33 |
| smoser | harmw, i forget, have you signed the CLA ? | 21:39 |
| smoser | harlowja, ^ https://code.launchpad.net/~harm-o/cloud-init/freebsd/+merge/198130 | 21:40 |
| harmw | I'm quite new to bazaar/launchpad when it comes to adding code and such, so i'm a bit clueless on what that means :) | 21:42 |
| smoser | harmw, http://www.canonical.com/contributors | 21:43 |
| smoser | you have to read the appropriate "individual contributors" or "entities" likn, agree, and then click on "signed online" link and sign it | 21:43 |
| harmw | ah, the 'all your base are belong to use' stuff :) | 21:43 |
| smoser | you'll be asked to sign in with your launchpad id. | 21:44 |
| smoser | harmw, exactly. | 21:44 |
| smoser | :-( | 21:44 |
| smoser | harmw, did sed -n really not work ? | 21:44 |
| harmw | nope | 21:44 |
| smoser | is it just '-n' ? | 21:44 |
| smoser | because its not 1987 any more | 21:45 |
| harmw | let me check on that again | 21:45 |
| harmw | sed '/^[0-9]\+[.][0-9]\+[.][0-9]\+:/ {s/://; p; :a;n; ba; }' ChangeLog | 21:46 |
| harmw | sed: 1: "/^[0-9]\+[.][0-9]\+[.][ ...": unexpected EOF (pending }'s) | 21:46 |
| smoser | hm.. | 21:47 |
| smoser | bugs me when a utility from a "full blown unix" is less capable than the one from busybox | 21:47 |
| harmw | hehe | 21:48 |
| smoser | uptime is clever. | 21:49 |
| harmw | yeah well, thats on the list of improvements | 21:49 |
| harmw | since it's totally whack to include the library stuff like i did there | 21:50 |
| harmw | should go in a more decent function of some kind | 21:50 |
| smoser | yeah | 21:50 |
| smoser | harmw, there is a bug for "use ip rather than route" | 21:51 |
| spandhe | I want to skip some tests while running nosetests. How do I do that? | 21:51 |
| smoser | is ip more portable ? | 21:51 |
| smoser | spandhe, to run only on one file just run like: | 21:52 |
| smoser | nosetests tests/unittests/test_datasource/test_altcloud.py | 21:52 |
| harmw | good one... its from iproute, afaik thats specificly linux | 21:53 |
| spandhe | smoser: thanks! | 21:53 |
| harmw | hm, -1 for adding a blank line | 21:54 |
| smoser | harmw, hm.. | 21:55 |
| smoser | that looks really nice though over all | 21:55 |
| harmw | thanks :) | 21:56 |
| smoser | can you online resize disks on freebsd? | 21:56 |
| smoser | ie, like i an on 3.8+ kernels on linux | 21:56 |
| smoser | s/disks/partitions/ | 21:57 |
| harmw | it requires a reboot, eg. like centos 6 | 21:57 |
| harlowja | woah, nicefreebsd | 21:57 |
| smoser | well, on centos there is cloud-initramfs-growpart | 21:58 |
| smoser | (ie, that works under drakut on centos in initramfs when the partition isnt mounted) | 21:58 |
| harmw | indeed | 21:58 |
| smoser | is there an analog to that in freebsd ? | 21:58 |
| smoser | something we could make for the initramfs ? | 21:58 |
| harmw | not that i know of | 21:58 |
| smoser | is thre an initramfs ? | 21:59 |
| harlowja | smoser now this will bring up the battle of does y! want to keep on enabling the usage of freebsd :-P | 21:59 |
| harlowja | if we allow vms with it, then freebsd never die, ha | 21:59 |
| harlowja | *die in yahoo | 21:59 |
| * smoser used *bsd probably last in like 2001. that was before harlowja could ride a bike. | 21:59 | |
| harlowja | likely | 21:59 |
| harmw | no initramfs on fbsd smoser | 22:00 |
| smoser | reboots suck | 22:00 |
| harmw | true, though freebsd boots quite fast nonetheless :) | 22:00 |
| smoser | harmw, we could make it reboot magically if necessary | 22:01 |
| harmw | also possible | 22:01 |
| smoser | ie, like cloudinit/config/cc_package_update_upgrade_install.py does | 22:01 |
| smoser | if it grew the root, then just reboot, and things continue on where you last left off. | 22:01 |
| harmw | ah, instant reboot on the spot? | 22:02 |
| smoser | yeah. | 22:02 |
| harmw | would be good enough | 22:02 |
| smoser | that module there does that if a package upload marks 'reboot-required' | 22:03 |
| smoser | s/upload/upgrade/ | 22:03 |
| harmw | yea, im going over the source now | 22:03 |
| harmw | *reading | 22:03 |
| smoser | i'm heading out for th eweekend. | 22:06 |
| smoser | thanks again, harmw and spandhe . | 22:06 |
| harmw | surething | 22:06 |
| smoser | harmw, please read/sign the cla | 22:06 |
| harmw | already did that | 22:06 |
| smoser | ah. great. | 22:06 |
| smoser | have a nice weekend all | 22:06 |
| harmw | same to you | 22:06 |
| spandhe | smoser: enjoy your weekend! | 22:09 |
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