| unicodesnowman | sorry, I'll be back in a bit | 00:22 |
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| ahoneybun | hey guys | 00:30 |
| mayky | acabo de cambiar la configuraion de video en kubuntu y me inia con pantalla negra luego de cargar el sistema | 03:05 |
| * manchicken doesn't speak that language... | 03:10 | |
| jalcine | yeah, I couldn't tell if that was Spanish | 03:27 |
| jalcine | it looks like it but *shrugs* | 03:28 |
| jalcine | KDE has a ES channel though, no? | 03:28 |
| valorie | !es | 03:50 |
| ubottu | En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 03:50 |
| jalcine | and valorie saves us again ;) | 03:52 |
| valorie | ha | 03:54 |
| valorie | you mean, valorie leans on the crutch of ubottu again | 03:55 |
| valorie | so much easier than remembering | 03:55 |
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| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:59 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1258422] Maximized windows go under panel if panel attached to screen edge between two monitors @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258422 (by kolen) | 08:01 |
| unicodesnowman | morning lordievader! | 08:06 |
| lordievader | Hey unicodesnowman, how are you? | 08:10 |
| unicodesnowman | I'm good, thanks, waiting for marble to build at the moment | 08:10 |
| lordievader | Marble, not a piece of software I'm familiar with. | 08:11 |
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| === vinay is now known as Guest48479 | ||
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1258422] Maximized windows go under panel if panel attached to screen edge between two monitors @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258422 (by kolen) | 09:03 |
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| apachelogger | bug 1258447 | 09:32 |
| ubottu | bug 1258447 in Kubuntu PPA "Packages of KDE 4.11.97 incomplete for Saucy 64-bit" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1258447 | 09:32 |
| yofel_ | looks about right - except l10n | 09:36 |
| * yofel_ uploads that | 09:36 | |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| Peace- | apachelogger: is there a way to see on web your phonon example ? | 09:55 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1257746] /usr/bin/ksplashqml:11:QObject::setProperty:_start @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1257746 (by errors.ubuntu.com bug bridge) | 10:05 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1258088] /usr/bin/krunner:TypeError:reloadConfiguration @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258088 (by errors.ubuntu.com bug bridge) | 10:05 |
| yofel | errors.ubuntu.com bug bridge o.O? | 10:07 |
| Riddell | thanks yofel | 10:08 |
| Riddell | yofel: some clever thing where apachelogger is linking up whoopie reports to launchpad bugs? | 10:08 |
| yofel | more likely his new whoopsie connection making errors file bugs for us I guess ^^ | 10:10 |
| apachelogger | on errors.ubuntu you get a button to file a bug automagically | 10:11 |
| apachelogger | s/button/link | 10:11 |
| yofel | ah, sweet | 10:11 |
| Riddell | X-KDE-Keywords= in kcm-whoopsie doesn't contain whoopsie so I didn't find anything when searching for whoopsie | 10:31 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: ↑ | 10:31 |
| apachelogger | why would a user search for whoopsie? | 10:32 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: because they've been told "test kcm-whoospie" :) | 10:32 |
| apachelogger | then one should tell them to use kcmshell4 whoopsie to start it? :P | 10:33 |
| apachelogger | or simply not use technobabble :P | 10:33 |
| apachelogger | To git@git.kde.org:scratch/sitter/kcm-whoopsie | 10:33 |
| apachelogger | b4e8948..bd4ba7d master -> master | 10:33 |
| apachelogger | !info libphonon4 trusty | 10:34 |
| ubottu | libphonon4 (source: phonon): multimedia framework from KDE - core library. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.7.0.0-2ubuntu3 (trusty), package size 144 kB, installed size 572 kB | 10:34 |
| apachelogger | !info libphonon4qt5 trusty | 10:34 |
| ubottu | Package libphonon4qt5 does not exist in trusty | 10:35 |
| apachelogger | no qt5 build? :( | 10:35 |
| apachelogger | <- sad upstream | 10:35 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: we're still on 4.6.0, I can fix that today if it'll make you happy | 10:36 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: 4.7.0 can be built for qt5 as well as qt4 right? | 10:36 |
| Riddell | ScottK: did you approve some of the 4.11.3 SRU packages? | 10:38 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: yes, see http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/phonon/phonon4qt5.html | 10:38 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: also trusty is on 4.7 it says, unless we have <4.7 backends | 10:38 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: oh good point | 10:39 |
| Riddell | still I'll look at the qt5 package | 10:39 |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 10:40 |
| * apachelogger sends kisses | 10:40 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell: actually you can push 4.7.1 as well | 10:41 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: so how do I get whoopsie to do anything? | 10:42 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: sudo restart whoopsie | 10:42 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: phonon 4.7.0 is all that's on kde depot server | 10:42 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: .1 should arrive soon see #kde-devel | 10:42 |
| apachelogger | according to pitti there's a bug in whoopsie that prevents it from reliably reporting stuff | 10:42 |
| apachelogger | however it seems to always send a report after startup | 10:43 |
| apachelogger | oh and I think you need to get apport to come up and go to continue | 10:43 |
| apachelogger | otherwise there won't be a .upload file and whoopsie will not send data | 10:43 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: if I killall -SEGV dolphin then I just get drkonqi, should something else happen? | 10:43 |
| Riddell | or will it not work for KDE applications? | 10:44 |
| apachelogger | that depends on how apport fits into the picture | 10:44 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: what happens is: crash -> apport -> writes crash file to /var/crash/ -> user wants to report the crash (apport-kde) -> apport creates a .upload file in /var/crash/ -> whoopsie uploads data | 10:45 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: ah but it doesn't get started with KDE stuff because crash -> drkonqi | 10:46 |
| apachelogger | apport hooks into the crash regardless of drkonqi AFAIK | 10:47 |
| apachelogger | check /var/crash/ | 10:47 |
| apachelogger | you should have a crash file for dolphin in there | 10:47 |
| apachelogger | all of that somewhat ties into https://trello.com/c/3qlMcV3D | 10:47 |
| Riddell | if drkonqi catches it I don't think it gets as far as apport writing to /var/crash | 10:50 |
| apachelogger | I do not know | 10:52 |
| apachelogger | in that case we'd want to use python3-apport to generate the crash file pitti said | 10:52 |
| apachelogger | which seems sensible | 10:52 |
| Riddell | and it then needs kubuntu-notification-helper to start apport | 10:52 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://community.kde.org/Phonon/Releases links | 10:53 |
| Riddell | ooh new phonon releases! | 10:54 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I don't suppose there's any sign of gstreamer 1.0 support on the horizon? | 10:54 |
| apachelogger | dvratil is working on that, not sure when he plans to release it | 10:55 |
| Riddell | cool | 10:55 |
| apachelogger | it's apparently not double freeing amarok anymore at least ^^ | 10:55 |
| Riddell | one freeze is better than two | 10:56 |
| Riddell | but really how hard can this multimedia stuff be? it's just sending bytes to /dev/pcm isn't it? | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | yeah :P | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | /dev/pcm: ERROR: cannot open `/dev/pcm' (No such file or directory) | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | :P | 10:59 |
| Riddell | well that'll be why amarok double freezes | 10:59 |
| Riddell | try using /dev/dsp instead | 10:59 |
| Riddell | hmm, kubuntu-notitications-helper isn't running apport-kde | 11:00 |
| Riddell | this seems like a bug | 11:00 |
| Riddell | which I guess we don't notice because kde stuff just runs drkonqi before it even gets that far | 11:00 |
| apachelogger | it does work at times | 11:02 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: have you managed to send a report with whoospie? | 11:02 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: yeah | 11:03 |
| apachelogger | don't ask me how | 11:03 |
| apachelogger | :P | 11:03 |
| apachelogger | oh | 11:03 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: you have to watch syslog | 11:03 |
| apachelogger | takes a while until stuff appears on the website | 11:03 |
| Riddell | so maybe it's just my kubuntu-notitications-helper which is broken | 11:04 |
| apachelogger | maybe there's a setting somewhere that needs to be flipped | 11:07 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: so, make sure you have a good report in /var/crash | 11:07 |
| apachelogger | then touch /var/crash/$CRASHNAME.upload | 11:08 |
| apachelogger | then sudo restart whopsie | 11:08 |
| apachelogger | and watch syslog | 11:08 |
| apachelogger | it should shortly after start send the report to the server | 11:08 |
| apachelogger | after that a file .uploaded should be there as well IIRC | 11:08 |
| apachelogger | -rw-r----- 1 me whoopsie 15942049 Dec 6 12:05 _opt_project-neon5_bin_codeine.1000.crash | 11:09 |
| apachelogger | -rw-r--r-- 1 me whoopsie 0 Dec 6 12:05 _opt_project-neon5_bin_codeine.1000.upload | 11:09 |
| apachelogger | -rw------- 1 whoopsie whoopsie 0 Dec 6 12:07 _opt_project-neon5_bin_codeine.1000.uploaded | 11:09 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I did not. | 11:12 |
| ScottK | I've been killer busy lately. | 11:12 |
| Riddell | ScottK: ok, I wonder who it was | 11:12 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: hmm kubuntu-notitications-helper says apport isn't doing something for me http://pastebin.kde.org/pw0wlzckt | 11:13 |
| Riddell | apportProcess->setProgram(QStringList() << "/usr/bin/python" << "/usr/share/apport/apport-checkreports"); | 11:14 |
| Riddell | that needs to be python3 | 11:14 |
| Riddell | tsk, I wonder how long that's been broken for :( | 11:14 |
| apachelogger | why do we need that anyway? | 11:19 |
| apachelogger | doesn't that bugger have a shebang? | 11:19 |
| Peace- | xD | 11:21 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: good point | 11:25 |
| Riddell | that seems to get things uploaded anyway | 11:26 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: so shall I package up kcm-whoopsie and get into the archive and on the image or is there more to care about? | 11:26 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I'd wait unless you want an early inclusion | 11:28 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: the more testing the better, what's to wait for? | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | i.e. there is nothing blocking it, but further changes may be needed | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | your call :P | 11:29 |
| apachelogger | <- code monkey | 11:29 |
| * Riddell calls ook | 11:30 | |
| Riddell | but first, fix bug 1258484 | 11:30 |
| ubottu | bug 1258484 in kubuntu-notification-helper (Ubuntu Trusty) "SRU k-n-h does not launch apport" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1258484 | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | and SRU | 11:31 |
| apachelogger | zomg | 11:31 |
| apachelogger | so much work | 11:31 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: are we sure the SRUs are worth the effort? apport is off by default in releases anyway, isn't it? | 11:32 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: hmm good question | 11:32 |
| apachelogger | or at least that was our plan at some point | 11:32 |
| Riddell | does that make whoopsie off too? | 11:32 |
| apachelogger | for now yes | 11:32 |
| apachelogger | until drkonqi gets whoopsie handling ;) | 11:32 |
| apachelogger | actually that's an interesting question | 11:32 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: mhh, as I said... it all somewhat ties into the apport card ... how we want to continue using apport | 11:33 |
| apachelogger | because to get the most out of whoopsie we'd have to use apport in some capacity | 11:33 |
| apachelogger | seeing as drkonqi won't handle !kapplications | 11:34 |
| Riddell | 11:33 < ev> apport doesn't report to Launchpad post-release | 11:34 |
| Riddell | 11:33 < ev> but it still reports to daisy.ubuntu.com (via whoopsie) | 11:34 |
| apachelogger | fancy | 11:34 |
| Riddell | but since we don't use whoopsie in our releases so far it's not worth backporting | 11:34 |
| apachelogger | that workflow would work for me | 11:34 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: right | 11:34 |
| apachelogger | a general problem is drkonqi vs. apport though | 11:34 |
| apachelogger | having two UIs that do more or less the same is ewww | 11:35 |
| Riddell | seems like it might be worth getting drkonqi to send to whoopsie | 11:35 |
| apachelogger | that means replicating parts of apport inside drkonqi | 11:35 |
| apachelogger | but yeah that seems like the best option at hand | 11:35 |
| Riddell | well hopefully it's a simple dbus call? | 11:36 |
| apachelogger | don't think so ;) | 11:36 |
| apachelogger | we'd want apport-kde to be gone in favor of drkonqi | 11:37 |
| apachelogger | or the other way around (which is kind of what we went away from) | 11:37 |
| apachelogger | in a stable release we have two use cases 1) kde applications crashes -> drkonqi comes up -> handles bug report to bugs.kde.org 2) any application crashes -> apport crash file needs to be created -> dialog needs to pop up informing the user asking for permission to send the crash report via whoopsie | 11:38 |
| Riddell | hah, all my top reports on errors.ubuntu.com are for ubiquity | 11:38 |
| apachelogger | https://errors.ubuntu.com/?release=Ubuntu%2013.10&user=kubuntu-bugs&period=year | 11:38 |
| apachelogger | I suggest filtering by user=kubuntu-bugs | 11:38 |
| apachelogger | since that's all the packages we care about | 11:39 |
| xnox | Riddell: is that the only package you are subscribed to for directly? | 11:39 |
| apachelogger | possibly since we handle all subscriptions through ~kubuntu-bugs | 11:39 |
| Riddell | mm that might be it | 11:39 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: do you want me to fix that knh bug or are you doing it? | 11:40 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I'm onto it | 11:40 |
| apachelogger | can anyone reproduce bug 737856 | 11:41 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: how come anything gets reported to errors.kde.org? wouldn't they all go to drkonqi? | 11:41 |
| ubottu | bug 737856 in synaptiks (Ubuntu) "synaptiks crashed with KeyError in __getitem__(): u'No such property: NAME'" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/737856 | 11:41 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: the ones that are there are not handled by drkonqi I presume | 11:41 |
| apachelogger | like that pyrunner trace doesn't actually crash krunner it crashes the python runtime inside krunner | 11:42 |
| Riddell | mm | 11:42 |
| apachelogger | kde-nm-connection-editor and kded crashes are weird though | 11:42 |
| apachelogger | I was under the impression those would go through drkonqi | 11:43 |
| Riddell | maybe they're not KApplications ? | 11:43 |
| apachelogger | the kde-nm thing should be | 11:44 |
| apachelogger | kde-nm-connection-editor --help | 11:44 |
| apachelogger | --help-kde | 11:44 |
| apachelogger | only available when using kapplication | 11:44 |
| apachelogger | it's possible that drkonqi is deactivated though | 11:45 |
| Riddell | mm | 11:45 |
| apachelogger | e.g. bug report mail address provided | 11:45 |
| apachelogger | mh, according to the about dialog that's not the case | 11:45 |
| apachelogger | killall -SEGV kde-nm-connection-editor brings up drkonqi | 11:46 |
| apachelogger | I dunno | 11:46 |
| apachelogger | really weird | 11:46 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: how did we deactivate drkonqi previously anyway? | 11:48 |
| apachelogger | kdelibs 3.5.10 doesn't have any patches regarding either apport or drkonqi | 11:48 |
| apachelogger | !info apport-kde hardy | 11:48 |
| ubottu | 'hardy' is not a valid distribution: extras, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, saucy, saucy-backports, saucy-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable | 11:48 |
| apachelogger | ubottu: :@ | 11:49 |
| Riddell | kbuildsycoca.cpp: KCrash::setCrashHandler(KCrash::defaultCrashHandler); | 11:50 |
| Riddell | kded.cpp: KCrash::setFlags(KCrash::AutoRestart); | 11:50 |
| Riddell | so I guess they stop those using drkonqi | 11:50 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: we had a patch in kde4libs kubuntu_07_apport_not_drkonqi.diff: | 11:51 |
| apachelogger | ah | 11:51 |
| apachelogger | can you paste that? | 11:51 |
| Riddell | which said if apport installed don't run drkonqi | 11:51 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: nevermind, found it | 11:52 |
| apachelogger | ah yes, straight forward | 11:53 |
| Riddell | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/karmic/kde4libs/karmic/view/head:/debian/patches/kubuntu_07_apport_not_drkonqi.diff | 11:53 |
| Riddell | so it would be more complex if we wanted drkonqi to still run because we'd need /var/crash to get written out which drkonqi stops happening | 11:54 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I think the Messages.sh is wrong making kde-config-whoopsie.pot | 11:55 |
| Riddell | if it's registerPlugin<Module>("kcm-whoopsie") | 11:55 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 11:55 |
| Riddell | it should be kcm-whoopsie.pot no? | 11:55 |
| apachelogger | To git@git.kde.org:scratch/sitter/kcm-whoopsie | 11:56 |
| apachelogger | bd4ba7d..3caa6e5 master -> master | 11:56 |
| apachelogger | on that note... I was thinking about having xx translations a la kde generated | 11:57 |
| apachelogger | makes it easier to spot unl10nd/uni18nd stuff | 11:57 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: for kcm-whoopsie or for everything? | 11:57 |
| apachelogger | at least kubuntu applications | 11:57 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I've suggested this to launchpad people at some time in the past and they weren't too keen on it | 11:58 |
| apachelogger | :S | 11:58 |
| Riddell | for reasons that escaped me | 11:58 |
| apachelogger | it's the most sensible thing in the world | 11:58 |
| Riddell | might be worth trying again but I guess it needs various people to put the various parts together | 11:58 |
| Riddell | E: kde-config-whoopsie: description-synopsis-is-duplicated | 11:59 |
| Riddell | naughty boy! | 11:59 |
| Riddell | To git@git.kde.org:scratch/sitter/kcm-whoopsie 3caa6e5..8ef2b60 master -> master | 12:00 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: feel free to make something up :P | 12:03 |
| * apachelogger should move that to bzr | 12:05 | |
| apachelogger | brrrrr | 12:05 |
| jussi | so. stickers left from Australia this morning. should be here in less than 10 working days. | 12:10 |
| Riddell | jussi: in time for christmas! | 12:10 |
| jussi | email me with your address if you need some for a particular event or reason | 12:11 |
| Riddell | jussi: fosdem for sure | 12:11 |
| jussi | :) | 12:11 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: uploaded to archive and added on seed, needs a new review by someone before we can get it | 12:16 |
| apachelogger | <3 | 12:19 |
| apachelogger | the amount of mails one has to send for releases ... | 12:25 |
| Riddell | ooh I missed this http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2013/10/msg00006.html Debian Policy 3.9.5.0 released | 12:43 |
| Riddell | so did lintian by the looks of it :) | 12:43 |
| apachelogger | stupid lintian | 12:44 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I think we want to SRU kscreen 1.0.2 | 12:44 |
| apachelogger | all the errors without a retrace in kdelibs-bin/kded are supposedly this bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=323923 | 12:45 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 323923 in libkscreen "kded4 crashes on startup due to kscreen kded module" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] | 12:45 |
| Riddell | bug 1254125 agrees | 12:45 |
| ubottu | bug 1254125 in libkscreen (Ubuntu Saucy) "Please update kscreen to 1.0.2.1" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1254125 | 12:45 |
| apachelogger | ah | 12:46 |
| apachelogger | cool cool ^^ | 12:46 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: needs to wait until tuesday before it can go in -updates | 12:46 |
| apachelogger | roger | 12:46 |
| unicodesnowman | wow, fosdem must have the biggest concentration of geeks | 12:48 |
| Riddell | unicodesnowman: fosdem is totally awesome | 12:49 |
| Riddell | unicodesnowman: you should a) come and b) give a talk, crossdesktop room is looking for them now | 12:49 |
| Riddell | "how I because an elite kubuntu ninjas starting with just one google code in task" :) | 12:49 |
| unicodesnowman | hehe | 12:50 |
| Blueskaj | Howdy folks | 12:50 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: dude, learn english :P | 12:51 |
| apachelogger | yo Blueskaj | 12:51 |
| Riddell | unicodesnowman: I can make more GCI tasks if you want them, package merges would be a fun next step :) | 12:51 |
| apachelogger | ^ for some definition of fun | 12:52 |
| unicodesnowman | hmm, sounds interesting, but what exactly are package merges? | 12:52 |
| unicodesnowman | oh, merging debian changes to ubuntu packages? | 12:53 |
| Riddell | unicodesnowman: in ubuntu we get our packages from debian then add our own bugs (as debian people like to say) | 12:53 |
| Riddell | unicodesnowman: but when debian updates their package the two then need merged | 12:53 |
| Riddell | https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html lists a load | 12:53 |
| Blueskaj | hey app | 12:53 |
| Blueskaj | err apachelogger :) | 12:53 |
| kubotu | ::runtime-bugs:: [1112696] drkonqi crashed with SIGABRT in qt_message_output() @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1112696 (by steinhauser christian) | 12:54 |
| unicodesnowman | I'm being indoctrinated with distro propaganda already :) I'm not really good at C++ through, I do have programming experience in other languages | 12:55 |
| Riddell | c++ is scary, that's why we use python a lot in ubuntu | 12:56 |
| unicodesnowman | I'd be happy to work on tasks if I won't cause more trouble than it's worth! | 12:56 |
| Riddell | apachelogger especially likes python | 12:56 |
| Riddell | unicodesnowman: I'll make a gci task for some universe merges then | 12:56 |
| apachelogger | python *rollseyes* | 12:56 |
| unicodesnowman | I'm more of a javascript guy, I use it for web code to web servers and even mobile phone apps. (prepares for language hate) | 12:57 |
| apachelogger | oh wait, that line was wrong | 12:57 |
| apachelogger | \t\tpython *rollseyes* | 12:57 |
| apachelogger | never forget the tabs | 12:57 |
| apachelogger | the most elite javascript code ever http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=scratch%2Fsitter%2Fphonon5-examples.git&a=blob&h=c246975926012271f3a6de1639e3cd3c163e4675&hb=45def8a08f38acf43078a782e46c3ef29cc663d6&f=audioplayer%2Fqml%2Faudioplayer%2Fmain.qml#l131 | 13:00 |
| apachelogger | I have no idea what exactly it is doing but if you put in a time in msc it will output a formatted string grouped by hour/minutes/seconds ^^ | 13:00 |
| unicodesnowman | it looks pretty simple | 13:02 |
| Riddell | I know nothing about javascript, but I did buy a book I want to read called "Javascript the good bits" last month | 13:02 |
| ovidiu-florin | hello world | 13:02 |
| ovidiu-florin | jussi: regarding the plan to migrate the site to wordpress, is that still happening? | 13:03 |
| ovidiu-florin | should I ask tsimpson regarding this? | 13:03 |
| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: I don't think there's been any progress, so go ahead and try and progress it | 13:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: I want to start migrating the Romanian one, but I'm wondering if we'll use the multi lannguage plugin so we only need one site instead of plenty | 13:08 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: I'd start the migration of the main site to a server and when it's done we could just move it to a permanent location | 13:09 |
| ovidiu-florin | what do you think? | 13:09 |
| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: we can use the multi language plugin if you or someone sets it up to work sure | 13:13 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: I've been testing it for the last 3-4 blog posts on my site | 13:14 |
| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: yep, you've got acess to docs.kubuntu.org if you want to use that server | 13:14 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: I need another DB | 13:14 |
| ovidiu-florin | for that | 13:14 |
| ovidiu-florin | I don't have MySQL access | 13:15 |
| ovidiu-florin | only for one DB for Kubuntu Romania | 13:15 |
| ovidiu-florin | or do I? I haven't tried | 13:15 |
| Riddell | unicodesnowman: dunno if you can see it yet but I made http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/edit/google/gci2013/5885540117250048?validated | 13:15 |
| unicodesnowman | ovidiu-florin: you could use a different WP table prefix? same DB? | 13:15 |
| ovidiu-florin | I could, but that would complicate exporting | 13:16 |
| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: I've given you sudo access so you can use mysqladmin to make a database | 13:16 |
| Riddell | oh you'll need a password for mysqladmin | 13:16 |
| ovidiu-florin | ok, thank you | 13:16 |
| unicodesnowman | Riddell: cool, I can't see it yet (I'm currently working on another task too), but I'll come out of this being a packaging wizard lol :) | 13:17 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: you had the stack exhaustion in akonadi_imap on ssl socket errors, didn't you? | 13:17 |
| apachelogger | bug 1258515 | 13:18 |
| ubottu | bug 1258515 in kdepimlibs (Ubuntu Saucy) "/usr/bin/akonadi_imap_resource:11:q_func:QSslSocketBackendPrivate::transmit:QSslSocketBackendPrivate::disconnectFromHost:QSslSocket::qt_static_metacall:QMetaMethod::invoke" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1258515 | 13:18 |
| Riddell | unicodesnowman: how old are you by the way? | 13:18 |
| Riddell | unicodesnowman: and where are you from? | 13:19 |
| unicodesnowman | I'm 0x0F (sorry, always wanted to use that :P) and I'm from Australia | 13:19 |
| Riddell | ah hense the funny sleeping hours :) | 13:19 |
| Riddell | unicodesnowman: isn't the internet laggy in australia? I've always thought that a good reason for not moving there | 13:20 |
| unicodesnowman | Riddell: it's not too bad, CDNs are plenty, service availability is a bigger issue imo. | 13:22 |
| apachelogger | hm | 13:23 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: script echo 0x0f | 13:23 |
| kubotu | 15 | 13:23 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: you are very smart | 13:23 |
| unicodesnowman | smarter than ubottu? | 13:23 |
| apachelogger | for sure | 13:24 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: that exhaustion should be all fixed in >= 4.11.3 | 13:27 |
| jussi | ovidiu-florin: tsimpson is your man | 13:28 |
| ovidiu-florin | ok, thank you | 13:30 |
| soee | trusty-desktop-amd64.iso 06-Dec-2013 05:32 1.0G Desktop image for 64-bit PC (AMD64) computers (standard download) | 13:48 |
| soee | the iso is 1GB now ? | 13:49 |
| Riddell | soee: yep | 13:49 |
| Riddell | arbitrary limit | 13:49 |
| soee | ok | 13:49 |
| soee | at least it uses full speed to download :) | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: so... about apport ... how about: patch drkonqi to write apport report file and mark it for upload if the user wishes so (covers kapplications in whoopsie) + apport-kde/drkonqi/whatever handles apport files via k-n-h invocation that only allows either sending the crash or not sending it (covers !kapplications in whoopsie) | 13:53 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: dood, you've been playing that Get Lucky song since May | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | in neither case stable releases push bugs into launchpad via apport | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: yeah, tell me about it, no good music released since May | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | life's a harsh mistress | 13:54 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: do we want bugs in launchpad? | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | no | 13:54 |
| shadeslayer | we want reports on errors.ubuntu.com | 13:55 |
| apachelogger | !kubuntu applications may want that though, but AFAIK ubuntu doesn't push bugs into launchpad from stable releases either | 13:55 |
| ubottu | apachelogger: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 13:55 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: oh I misread neither as either, fine | 13:56 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 13:56 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: so no change needed to apport or k-n-h ? | 13:56 |
| apachelogger | probably not | 13:56 |
| apachelogger | we still need to figure out maintenance though | 13:57 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: how hard is it to get drkonqi to write apport files? | 13:57 |
| Riddell | that's the issue I guess | 13:57 |
| Riddell | maintenance of apport-kde? any idea if there's anything it lacks compared to apport-gtk? | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | I don't know. It's not maintained | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | an no one noticed that it is not even being used | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | because it's not maintained | 13:59 |
| Riddell | add it to our tests somewhere? | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | writing apport files is "relatively" simple | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | getting the information is a bit more work | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | apport does weird linux gid/uid stuff | 14:00 |
| apachelogger | strictly speaking that is somewhat isolated from drkonqi though | 14:01 |
| apachelogger | could be a secondary script that is forked from drkonqi or something | 14:02 |
| apachelogger | changes to drkonqi would be a) only invoke the whole magic when the whoopsie setting for crash reports is true b) show a button to submit an automagic report (whoopsie it) c) when the user files a bug with kde whoopsie it in addition to that | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | hm | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I think there's a bug in the whoopsie desktop file somewhere | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | doesn't start via krunner | 14:12 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: which whoopsie desktop file? | 14:14 |
| Riddell | oh kcm? | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | To git@git.kde.org:scratch/sitter/kcm-whoopsie | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | 8ef2b60..6301d62 master -> master | 14:15 |
| Riddell | what did you fix? | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | krunner invocation | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | exec line was bogus | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | <- totally did not know that other people can push to one's scratch repos | 14:16 |
| apachelogger | rather nifty | 14:16 |
| Riddell | kde manifesto: anyone can commit | 14:16 |
| Riddell | what I don't know is how you find a scratch repo | 14:16 |
| Riddell | can't see it on projects.kde.org | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | slowgit | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | http://quickgit.kde.org/ lists all the scratches | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | that's why it's so slow I guess ^^ | 14:17 |
| Riddell | :) | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | updated whoopsie card with things discussed so far | 14:30 |
| Riddell | good stuff | 14:35 |
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| Riddell | apachelogger: as fiddly as getting this package to build twice is I can take comfort that it was more fiddly for you to get the build system to accept both qt4 and 5 | 15:08 |
| Riddell | ronnoc: hey blue mint man how about pimping neon5 images on bluemint? | 15:13 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: lol, yeah :S | 16:27 |
| ronnoc | Riddell: I will gladly do that as soon as the site is back up - it's down for a few days for a re-tooling. But will promote 1st thing when up :) | 16:27 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: so not perfect, I actually wanted both libraries built in one run | 16:28 |
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| chaudhary | Hi all, | 19:50 |
| chaudhary | I'm trying to upgrade to 14.04 using `kubuntu-devel-release -upgrade`. | 19:50 |
| chaudhary | Gives me error in 'Setting new software channels' stage saying 404 error extras.ubuntu.com/something not found. | 19:50 |
| chaudhary | Happens every time. | 19:51 |
| chaudhary | http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/source/Sources 404 | 19:52 |
| chaudhary | http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 | 19:52 |
| chaudhary | http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 | 19:52 |
| chaudhary | To be precise ^ | 19:53 |
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| shadeslayer | extras.ubuntu.com doesn't exist for trusty, yet. | 19:56 |
| shadeslayer | http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ | 19:56 |
| chaudhary | Any other way to upgrade to 14.04 | 19:57 |
| chaudhary | Guess not | 19:57 |
| chaudhary | Updates etc will not be possible, right | 19:57 |
| shadeslayer | do-release-upgrade | 19:58 |
| chaudhary | No available upgrades | 19:58 |
| shadeslayer | read the man page | 19:58 |
| chaudhary | tried that | 19:58 |
| chaudhary | Okay great, got it | 20:00 |
| chaudhary | -d right | 20:00 |
| chaudhary | thanks | 20:00 |
| chaudhary | I looked at man kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade | 20:00 |
| chaudhary | that one doesn't exist | 20:00 |
| chaudhary | Ummm I just used `strings `which kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade`` | 20:03 |
| chaudhary | Turns out it's just do-release-upgrade and some flags | 20:03 |
| lordievader | chaudhary: Or disable the "extra" repos in /etc/apt/sources.list | 20:04 |
| chaudhary | I guess I should go get some sleep. | 20:04 |
| chaudhary | aah | 20:04 |
| chaudhary | lemme try that ;) | 20:04 |
| Noskcaj | Riddell, What where the changes to qtkeychain that are in the delta? The changelog entry is not very helpful | 22:06 |
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