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Kilosgood morning peeps05:16
Kiloswe very min today05:16
Symmetriahrm05:33
Symmetriasad day05:33
Kiloshi Symmetria 05:37
Kiloswhats sad05:37
Kiloshome run Squirm 05:42
Symmetriakilos mandela dying is pretty sad06:12
Kilosah06:13
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 06:13
ThatGraemeGuymorning06:16
Squirmhello06:20
SquirmKilos: 1 week06:20
Kilosthats goes quick06:20
superflymorning06:24
Kilosohi superfly 06:24
SquirmI'm so keen for this weekend07:40
Squirmsailing in a yacht race(I do it once a year at this time)07:41
Squirmand a friend of mine is bringing his boat down07:41
Squirmits December and I haven't had a ski yet!07:41
SquirmI07:43
Squirmam07:43
Squirmso07:43
Squirmkeen07:43
Kiloscool07:44
inetprogood mornings08:28
* inetpro stretches his self08:28
inetproMaaz: coffee on08:28
* Maaz washes some mugs08:28
inetproKilos: koffie?08:28
SquirmMaaz: coffee please08:31
MaazSquirm: Alrighty08:31
SquirmMaaz: larger08:31
Maazinna bucket for you Squirm08:31
MaazCoffee's ready for inetpro and Squirm!08:32
Squirmmmmm08:33
SquirmMaaz: botsnack08:33
MaazThank you thank you, munch munch chomp chomp08:33
Kilosmorning inetpro 08:40
Kilossorry inetpro was outside then came back to disconnected modem08:42
Kilosgrrr08:42
inetproai!08:46
Kiloswouldnt reconnect till i rebooted08:55
Kilosgrrrr08:55
Kiloseeek todays 12.04 upgrade is 188 meg08:58
Kiloslate night here we come08:58
Kiloshi drussell 09:00
drussellKilos: hey!09:00
Kilosdrubin, hi there you still alive09:00
charlgood morning10:00
charlMaaz: coffee on10:00
* Maaz starts grinding coffee10:00
MaazCoffee's ready for charl!10:04
Kiloshi charl 10:07
KilosMaaz, wheres my coffee10:07
MaazYou snooze you lose Kilos10:07
Kilosgrrr10:07
charlhi Kilos 10:10
charlMaaz: thanks10:10
Maazcharl: Sure10:10
charlhi psyatw 10:24
charlhow's it going10:24
charlwb Kilos 10:25
psyatwhi charl10:26
psyatwhi Kilos10:26
psyatwI´m doing well10:26
psyatwI hope to hear about an interview being scheduled soon10:26
charloh nice, an interview in NL or PL?10:27
charli've been going for a bunch of interviews myself but i heard last week that my current contract has been extended for a year10:27
charlso i can relax for a bit :)10:27
charlto be honest, the job market in NL is somewhat disappointing10:28
charlthere are a lot of jobs being advertised but the companies i spoke to are getting extremely fussy and particular about what they want now10:28
charlit's not like a couple of years ago where you just get covered in job offers and people keep phoning after you for weeks10:28
psyatwhopefully in NL :)10:30
psyatwbecause pay here in PL is pretty bad10:30
psyatwand I wouldn´t want to stay here working for the same kind of income for another 6 to 12 months10:30
psyatwyes10:31
psyatwso I have a contract until August next year but I am looking for a way out of here10:31
Kilos-eish!! they playing with the power again10:35
=== Kilos- is now known as Kilos
psyatwcharl, that´s good news at least :)10:38
nuvolario/ ohi10:58
Kiloshi psyatw nuvolari Private_User 11:04
Private_Userhi Kilos 11:04
nuvolarihi oom Kilos :>11:23
charlyeah some people say the economy is picking up but it really is not visible in the job market right now11:32
charlhi nuvolari 11:32
charlhi Private_User 11:32
psyatwhi nuvolari11:37
psyatwcharl, but the problem is that I don´t even have enough money right now to continue my studies at (Dutch) OU and get Red Hat/Java/Oracle etc. certificates11:38
psyatwso I am really stuck here wasting my time and just living life but not really advancing in my knowledge11:39
charlbah that doesn't help11:39
psyatwso I was just talking to my mother about just quitting this job and coming back to the Netherlands11:39
charldo you really need all those certificates though? i work as a java programmer and i have absolutely no java certification11:39
psyatwnot really, but it´s just for myself and recruiters perhaps11:40
Symmetriaheh, thats one thing I love about kenya right now11:40
psyatwI am not fond of them either11:40
Symmetriathe industry here, well, specifically the internet industry11:40
Symmetriais flying 11:40
Symmetrialife here is good 11:40
charluntil the next terror attack? :)11:40
Symmetriacharl, those can happen anywhere11:40
Symmetriayou could say that about the US11:40
Symmetriaor London11:40
Symmetriaor Mumbai11:41
charlthat's true11:41
Symmetriaor Tokyo 11:41
Symmetriaor <insert long list of places that have been hit by morons in the last 15 years>11:41
charlwell... they won't *jjust* happen anywhere but you do make a valid point11:41
Symmetriacharl, well, it just happened in london a few years ago, the tube stations remeber?11:41
psyatwhi Symmetria11:42
charli remember it very well11:42
Symmetriait just happened when they hit the metro with sarin in asia11:42
charli don't live in london though :P11:42
Symmetriaand the mumbai hotel attacks11:42
Symmetriapoint is, you can never stop a bunch of determined retards 11:42
psyatwI was in mumbai in 2003 during the bombings11:42
charllooking at xmpp.net i am surprised to see how many people actually run their own jabber servers11:46
charlssl/tls is actually an interesting subject11:46
charlthey don't seem to like self-signed certificates though11:49
psyatwhi drussell11:57
psyatwhi nlsthzn11:57
Kiloshi nlsthzn 11:57
nlsthznhello psyatw & all11:57
charlhi nlsthzn 11:58
charlhow's it going11:58
nlsthznfine thanks and yourself charl ?11:58
charli'm doing well thanks11:58
nlsthznglad to hear :)11:59
nlsthznand how is psyatw doing?12:00
psyatwI am doing fine, nlsthzn12:02
psyatwwhat about you?12:02
nlsthznstill doing fine12:02
psyatwyeah, the weather must be a lot better than it is here :)12:02
nlsthznnot much happened in the last 5 minutes12:02
psyatwhaha12:02
nlsthznbest weather in the word here currently...12:03
psyatwstormy and cold like here in northern europe?12:04
nlsthznnope12:05
nlsthznthat doesn't sound like best weather to me :p12:05
nlsthznsunny and cool to just right....12:05
psyatwhaha12:06
charlsome of my colleagues have been saying that there is a chance of snow but i haven't seen any snow yet12:07
charlthis morning it is properly cold though - just above 0 degrees12:07
psyatwI´ve been seeing hail and a bit of snow and ice here for the past few days12:09
charlah, spoke too soon, just saw the first snow12:14
Kiloshehe12:14
charlwe have been having terrible winds here the last day, almost blew off my bicycle on my way home yesterday12:14
charlhad to shift my weight around just to combat the wind12:14
Kiloshey you clever okes what size square bar is equivalent to 1.6mm round12:24
Private_Usersorry, Hi charl, was AFK12:27
Kilosnp12:27
Kilosdont all answer at once12:28
Private_Userlol12:28
Private_UserI am off peeps chat later12:37
drussellpsyatw: hiya13:11
charlok back13:20
charljust reformatted my vps and converted it from ubuntu 13.04 to debian 7 instead of upgrading to ubuntu 13.1013:20
charlKilos: sorry i don't understand the question, what is a size square bar?13:21
Kiloshehe13:21
Kilosi have round of 1.613:21
Kilosi want to know what square qould give the same 13:22
Kilosum13:22
Kilosvolume?13:22
Kilosi dunno how to explain it13:22
drussellKilos: http://ncalculators.com/area-volume/13:28
drussell;o)13:28
Kilosty drussell 13:29
drussellKilos: np13:29
Kilosai!13:34
charlsorry got busy again14:05
charli'm off to go home now actually14:05
charlhave a good weekend all !14:05
=== Ryno is now known as rynomster
Kiloshi rynomster welcome to ubuntu-za14:38
rynomsterHi Kilos14:38
Kiloswhat can we help you with14:38
Kilosor you here to help us14:38
rynomsterlol everytime I come here I have a new nickname and never remember what I was before :P14:38
Kiloshahaha14:38
rynomsterbut I'll stick to this one now14:38
Kilosyou will forget it if you have such long breaks14:39
rynomsterand Im running windoze again :|14:39
Kilosshame what happened14:39
rynomsterso, I bought this laptop, it came with windoze 8 preloaded, now I bought an SSD and want to load ubuntu, but I want to wipe the hard drive in this laptop but preserve the windoze 8 installation for if I 1day decide I want to use it... should I change the partition size on the windoze partition and store it as an image somewhere?14:41
rynomstertrying to think of the best way to do it14:41
rynomsterI just want to preserve all the nice asus stuffs lol14:42
Kilospartition the first section with windows14:42
rynomsterbut I guess they are available for download14:42
rynomsterim going to use this current hdd as an external14:42
Kilosboot from ubuntudvd or flash then let it squeeze windows to 30g or so then install ubuntu on whats left14:42
rynomsteroh... how does ubuntu work with touch screens?14:43
rynomsteris it nice?14:43
Kilosdunno thats too modern for me14:43
rynomsterlol14:43
Kilosis it a touch screen lappy?14:43
rynomsteryea14:44
rynomsterits cool14:44
Kiloswhew14:44
rynomsterplays BF414:44
rynomsterlol14:44
rynomsterbut it runs waaay better on ultra on my pc14:44
Kiloswhat sdize is the drive in it?14:45
Kilossize14:45
rynomsterI hope they port bif 4 to 'nix soon14:45
rynomsterit came with a 1TB drive14:45
rynomsterI bought a 256gb SSD to replace it14:45
Kilosthen just install ubuntu alongside win814:45
SilverCoderynomster: if the drive has a windows recovery partition you could probably just take a snapshot of that (using dd), and then later use that to restore windows14:48
SilverCodewould be smaller than trying to image the actual windows partition14:48
rynomstercool thanks SilverCode 14:49
Kilosty SilverCode i dont know about all the smart ways of doing things14:49
rynomsterI dont think it has a recovery partition though, can't see it in windoze14:49
rynomster:<14:49
rynomsteroh sick it does!14:50
SilverCodeI'm not sure if recovery partitions actually show up in Windows14:50
rynomsterits just hidden in windows14:50
rynomsteryea14:50
rynomsterits under disk management14:50
rynomsterthere are 314:50
rynomsterso the 20GB one, just dd that14:51
rynomster:o14:51
rynomsterthanks man, I feel stoopid now14:51
rynomsterlol14:51
SilverCoderynomster: I've never *actually* done a dd/restore of a windows recovery partition, so I can't say how to do it or if it will work 100%14:52
SilverCodeI normally just nuke the drive and put Linux on it14:52
rynomsterlol :P14:52
SilverCodeif Windows ever needs to be reinstalled, I make it IT's problem :)14:52
SilverCodebut if I ever had to make a backup, a dd of the recovery partition is the first thing I would try14:53
rynomster:D I dont actually see myself using windoze again, I think its cos its all new and shiny that I feel obligated to keep it safe14:53
SilverCodeI know the feeling14:53
SilverCodeit is like leaving those screen protector things on devices14:53
SilverCode"just in case"14:54
SilverCodealso, if something goes wrong with the laptop, and you return it to the manufacturer they might blame the fault on using "Non Standard Software"14:54
SilverCodeso best to keep backups around :)14:55
rynomsterlol14:55
rynomsterso Im down at the coast for holiday, and its raining - I stopped drinking, now Im sitting in a hotel on IRC.... y? who knows, but I haven't had a chance to go on IRC in like 8 months14:56
SilverCodedrinking and IRC is always a fun combination14:57
SilverCodeanyhoo, hometime, I'm off to play in traffic14:57
rynomstergl15:17
Kilosyou winning rynomster 17:54
Kilos?17:54
inetprogood evenin18:15
Kilosohi inetpro 18:15
inetprohello Kilos18:15
Kiloswe are min here hey?18:15
inetproja, everyone tired18:16
Kiloslol yeah looks like18:16
Kilosbuncha ballies18:16
* inetpro too18:16
inetproafter just two hours of sleep last night /me will be falling over soon18:16
Kiloswow why so min?18:17
inetprowhy you think?18:17
Kiloswhat broke18:17
Kilosoh18:17
inetprothere's just one story in the news18:17
inetprohad to bring activate the site last night18:18
inetprohttp://www.mandela.gov.za/18:18
inetpros/bring//18:19
Kilosyou had to do that last night?18:19
Kilosgo sleep man18:19
inetproyep, part of a team effort though, not all alone18:19
Kiloswhew18:19
inetproand lots of related efforts18:20
Kilosi can imagine18:20
* inetpro relieved that it finally happened 18:27
Kilosyeah18:27
inetprowe've had to be ready so many times18:27
Kilosmajor job that site hey18:27
inetproactually not so much18:27
Kiloslotsa info and all neatly laid out18:27
Kilosand no moving/animated adverts and things18:27
inetprothere's somuch more info distributed across the web, but yes, it's nicely laid out18:28
inetprohopefully18:28
Kilosto me it is but im old18:28
inetproI'll be honest it was quite amazing to see the many other similar sites that suddenly sprung up last night18:32
Kilosgo to bed now inetpro 19:15
inetproKilos: ja oom19:15
Kilosim goona try make 11 to do upgrade19:15
inetprosjoe19:15
inetpronee dit maak ek beslis nie19:15
Kilosja sjoe19:16
Kilos188m19:16
Kilosbig one lotsa office stuff too19:16
Kilosand kernel19:16
Kilosnight all . sleep tight20:59

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