[05:16] good morning peeps [05:16] we very min today [05:33] hrm [05:33] sad day [05:37] hi Symmetria [05:37] whats sad [05:42] home run Squirm [06:12] kilos mandela dying is pretty sad [06:13] ah [06:13] hi ThatGraemeGuy [06:16] morning [06:20] hello [06:20] Kilos: 1 week [06:20] thats goes quick [06:24] morning [06:24] ohi superfly [07:40] I'm so keen for this weekend [07:41] sailing in a yacht race(I do it once a year at this time) [07:41] and a friend of mine is bringing his boat down [07:41] its December and I haven't had a ski yet! [07:43] I [07:43] am [07:43] so [07:43] keen [07:44] cool [08:28] good mornings [08:28] * inetpro stretches his self [08:28] Maaz: coffee on [08:28] * Maaz washes some mugs [08:28] Kilos: koffie? [08:31] Maaz: coffee please [08:31] Squirm: Alrighty [08:31] Maaz: larger [08:31] inna bucket for you Squirm [08:32] Coffee's ready for inetpro and Squirm! [08:33] mmmm [08:33] Maaz: botsnack [08:33] Thank you thank you, munch munch chomp chomp [08:40] morning inetpro [08:42] sorry inetpro was outside then came back to disconnected modem [08:42] grrr [08:46] ai! [08:55] wouldnt reconnect till i rebooted [08:55] grrrr [08:58] eeek todays 12.04 upgrade is 188 meg [08:58] late night here we come [09:00] hi drussell [09:00] Kilos: hey! [09:00] drubin, hi there you still alive [10:00] good morning [10:00] Maaz: coffee on [10:00] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [10:04] Coffee's ready for charl! [10:07] hi charl [10:07] Maaz, wheres my coffee [10:07] You snooze you lose Kilos [10:07] grrr [10:10] hi Kilos [10:10] Maaz: thanks [10:10] charl: Sure [10:24] hi psyatw [10:24] how's it going [10:25] wb Kilos [10:26] hi charl [10:26] hi Kilos [10:26] I´m doing well [10:26] I hope to hear about an interview being scheduled soon [10:27] oh nice, an interview in NL or PL? [10:27] i've been going for a bunch of interviews myself but i heard last week that my current contract has been extended for a year [10:27] so i can relax for a bit :) [10:28] to be honest, the job market in NL is somewhat disappointing [10:28] there are a lot of jobs being advertised but the companies i spoke to are getting extremely fussy and particular about what they want now [10:28] it's not like a couple of years ago where you just get covered in job offers and people keep phoning after you for weeks [10:30] hopefully in NL :) [10:30] because pay here in PL is pretty bad [10:30] and I wouldn´t want to stay here working for the same kind of income for another 6 to 12 months [10:31] yes [10:31] so I have a contract until August next year but I am looking for a way out of here [10:35] eish!! they playing with the power again === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [10:38] charl, that´s good news at least :) [10:58] o/ ohi [11:04] hi psyatw nuvolari Private_User [11:04] hi Kilos [11:23] hi oom Kilos :> [11:32] yeah some people say the economy is picking up but it really is not visible in the job market right now [11:32] hi nuvolari [11:32] hi Private_User [11:37] hi nuvolari [11:38] charl, but the problem is that I don´t even have enough money right now to continue my studies at (Dutch) OU and get Red Hat/Java/Oracle etc. certificates [11:39] so I am really stuck here wasting my time and just living life but not really advancing in my knowledge [11:39] bah that doesn't help [11:39] so I was just talking to my mother about just quitting this job and coming back to the Netherlands [11:39] do you really need all those certificates though? i work as a java programmer and i have absolutely no java certification [11:40] not really, but it´s just for myself and recruiters perhaps [11:40] heh, thats one thing I love about kenya right now [11:40] I am not fond of them either [11:40] the industry here, well, specifically the internet industry [11:40] is flying [11:40] life here is good [11:40] until the next terror attack? :) [11:40] charl, those can happen anywhere [11:40] you could say that about the US [11:40] or London [11:41] or Mumbai [11:41] that's true [11:41] or Tokyo [11:41] or [11:41] well... they won't *jjust* happen anywhere but you do make a valid point [11:41] charl, well, it just happened in london a few years ago, the tube stations remeber? [11:42] hi Symmetria [11:42] i remember it very well [11:42] it just happened when they hit the metro with sarin in asia [11:42] i don't live in london though :P [11:42] and the mumbai hotel attacks [11:42] point is, you can never stop a bunch of determined retards [11:42] I was in mumbai in 2003 during the bombings [11:46] looking at xmpp.net i am surprised to see how many people actually run their own jabber servers [11:46] ssl/tls is actually an interesting subject [11:49] they don't seem to like self-signed certificates though [11:57] hi drussell [11:57] hi nlsthzn [11:57] hi nlsthzn [11:57] hello psyatw & all [11:58] hi nlsthzn [11:58] how's it going [11:58] fine thanks and yourself charl ? [11:58] i'm doing well thanks [11:59] glad to hear :) [12:00] and how is psyatw doing? [12:02] I am doing fine, nlsthzn [12:02] what about you? [12:02] still doing fine [12:02] yeah, the weather must be a lot better than it is here :) [12:02] not much happened in the last 5 minutes [12:02] haha [12:03] best weather in the word here currently... [12:04] stormy and cold like here in northern europe? [12:05] nope [12:05] that doesn't sound like best weather to me :p [12:05] sunny and cool to just right.... [12:06] haha [12:07] some of my colleagues have been saying that there is a chance of snow but i haven't seen any snow yet [12:07] this morning it is properly cold though - just above 0 degrees [12:09] I´ve been seeing hail and a bit of snow and ice here for the past few days [12:14] ah, spoke too soon, just saw the first snow [12:14] hehe [12:14] we have been having terrible winds here the last day, almost blew off my bicycle on my way home yesterday [12:14] had to shift my weight around just to combat the wind [12:24] hey you clever okes what size square bar is equivalent to 1.6mm round [12:27] sorry, Hi charl, was AFK [12:27] np [12:28] dont all answer at once [12:28] lol [12:37] I am off peeps chat later [13:11] psyatw: hiya [13:20] ok back [13:20] just reformatted my vps and converted it from ubuntu 13.04 to debian 7 instead of upgrading to ubuntu 13.10 [13:21] Kilos: sorry i don't understand the question, what is a size square bar? [13:21] hehe [13:21] i have round of 1.6 [13:22] i want to know what square qould give the same [13:22] um [13:22] volume? [13:22] i dunno how to explain it [13:28] Kilos: http://ncalculators.com/area-volume/ [13:28] ;o) [13:29] ty drussell [13:29] Kilos: np [13:34] ai! [14:05] sorry got busy again [14:05] i'm off to go home now actually [14:05] have a good weekend all ! === Ryno is now known as rynomster [14:38] hi rynomster welcome to ubuntu-za [14:38] Hi Kilos [14:38] what can we help you with [14:38] or you here to help us [14:38] lol everytime I come here I have a new nickname and never remember what I was before :P [14:38] hahaha [14:38] but I'll stick to this one now [14:39] you will forget it if you have such long breaks [14:39] and Im running windoze again :| [14:39] shame what happened [14:41] so, I bought this laptop, it came with windoze 8 preloaded, now I bought an SSD and want to load ubuntu, but I want to wipe the hard drive in this laptop but preserve the windoze 8 installation for if I 1day decide I want to use it... should I change the partition size on the windoze partition and store it as an image somewhere? [14:41] trying to think of the best way to do it [14:42] I just want to preserve all the nice asus stuffs lol [14:42] partition the first section with windows [14:42] but I guess they are available for download [14:42] im going to use this current hdd as an external [14:42] boot from ubuntudvd or flash then let it squeeze windows to 30g or so then install ubuntu on whats left [14:43] oh... how does ubuntu work with touch screens? [14:43] is it nice? [14:43] dunno thats too modern for me [14:43] lol [14:43] is it a touch screen lappy? [14:44] yea [14:44] its cool [14:44] whew [14:44] plays BF4 [14:44] lol [14:44] but it runs waaay better on ultra on my pc [14:45] what sdize is the drive in it? [14:45] size [14:45] I hope they port bif 4 to 'nix soon [14:45] it came with a 1TB drive [14:45] I bought a 256gb SSD to replace it [14:45] then just install ubuntu alongside win8 [14:48] rynomster: if the drive has a windows recovery partition you could probably just take a snapshot of that (using dd), and then later use that to restore windows [14:48] would be smaller than trying to image the actual windows partition [14:49] cool thanks SilverCode [14:49] ty SilverCode i dont know about all the smart ways of doing things [14:49] I dont think it has a recovery partition though, can't see it in windoze [14:49] :< [14:50] oh sick it does! [14:50] I'm not sure if recovery partitions actually show up in Windows [14:50] its just hidden in windows [14:50] yea [14:50] its under disk management [14:50] there are 3 [14:51] so the 20GB one, just dd that [14:51] :o [14:51] thanks man, I feel stoopid now [14:51] lol [14:52] rynomster: I've never *actually* done a dd/restore of a windows recovery partition, so I can't say how to do it or if it will work 100% [14:52] I normally just nuke the drive and put Linux on it [14:52] lol :P [14:52] if Windows ever needs to be reinstalled, I make it IT's problem :) [14:53] but if I ever had to make a backup, a dd of the recovery partition is the first thing I would try [14:53] :D I dont actually see myself using windoze again, I think its cos its all new and shiny that I feel obligated to keep it safe [14:53] I know the feeling [14:53] it is like leaving those screen protector things on devices [14:54] "just in case" [14:54] also, if something goes wrong with the laptop, and you return it to the manufacturer they might blame the fault on using "Non Standard Software" [14:55] so best to keep backups around :) [14:55] lol [14:56] so Im down at the coast for holiday, and its raining - I stopped drinking, now Im sitting in a hotel on IRC.... y? who knows, but I haven't had a chance to go on IRC in like 8 months [14:57] drinking and IRC is always a fun combination [14:57] anyhoo, hometime, I'm off to play in traffic [15:17] gl [17:54] you winning rynomster [17:54] ? [18:15] good evenin [18:15] ohi inetpro [18:15] hello Kilos [18:15] we are min here hey? [18:16] ja, everyone tired [18:16] lol yeah looks like [18:16] buncha ballies [18:16] * inetpro too [18:16] after just two hours of sleep last night /me will be falling over soon [18:17] wow why so min? [18:17] why you think? [18:17] what broke [18:17] oh [18:17] there's just one story in the news [18:18] had to bring activate the site last night [18:18] http://www.mandela.gov.za/ [18:19] s/bring// [18:19] you had to do that last night? [18:19] go sleep man [18:19] yep, part of a team effort though, not all alone [18:19] whew [18:20] and lots of related efforts [18:20] i can imagine [18:27] * inetpro relieved that it finally happened [18:27] yeah [18:27] we've had to be ready so many times [18:27] major job that site hey [18:27] actually not so much [18:27] lotsa info and all neatly laid out [18:27] and no moving/animated adverts and things [18:28] there's somuch more info distributed across the web, but yes, it's nicely laid out [18:28] hopefully [18:28] to me it is but im old [18:32] I'll be honest it was quite amazing to see the many other similar sites that suddenly sprung up last night [19:15] go to bed now inetpro [19:15] Kilos: ja oom [19:15] im goona try make 11 to do upgrade [19:15] sjoe [19:15] nee dit maak ek beslis nie [19:16] ja sjoe [19:16] 188m [19:16] big one lotsa office stuff too [19:16] and kernel [20:59] night all . sleep tight