[00:00] <sfj> daftykins: this is true hah
[00:00] <usr13> sfj: More-than-likely, you won't need it much.
[00:00] <timo_> how come?
[00:00] <sfj> I'm just scared of ungodly bad battery life that I had back in Ubuntu 7
[00:01] <usr13> sfj: ... if you're like 90% of us ...
[00:01] <sfj> Granted the laptop was awful, but I had ~3 hours in Windows, and ~1.5 in Ubuntu
[00:01] <galaaaa> have anyone idea how could i print out this kind of information about an ac3 file? http://104.imagebam.com/download/bDXi8DyRILlIoRrHNGrY8g/29078/290777806/proof.png
[00:02] <daftykins> galaaaa: can you link to a viewing rather than downloading image?
[00:02] <|1li> hi
[00:03] <galaaaa> yes sorry http://www.imagebam.com/image/2ed568290777806
[00:03] <sfj> I guess I can just install it and try
[00:03] <usr13> sfj: I do not know much about your particular laptop or battery, so can not speak to you about battery life.  My laptop will stay up for 4 to 6 hours, depending on what I do with it, (depends a lot on what you are doing with a laptop how long a battery charge will last).
[00:04] <sfj> I'm talking a Lenovo W530 that gets ~9 hours on light use in Windows
[00:04] <galaaaa> i have seen that image on a site, and i couldn't come to the software of which they were using for that kind of information, because mediainfo doesn't print out that deep informations
[00:04] <daftykins> sfj: you're unlikely to get battery life matching Windows on laptops, what are you *really* wanting to do?
[00:05] <galaaaa> daftykins you maybe have any idea about that?
[00:06] <usr13> sfj: If you don't turn it on, the battery will last indefinitely.
[00:06] <daftykins> galaaaa: it definitely looks like mediainfo, you just need to configure it right and set it to output to the correct type
[00:06] <galaaaa> yeah? you think so, hmmm
[00:07] <sfj> I really will only use the battery when surfing the web, email, etc.  I'll be using the machine for Python programming, virtualizing servers (Windows and Linux), C programming, etc.
[00:07] <sfj> usr13: i'll try that sometime
[00:07] <sfj> hah
[00:07] <sfj> and I work in an environment where we support Windows, Mac, and Linux
[00:07] <sfj> I'd like to get better with the latter
[00:07] <galaaaa> daftykins :D thanks for that :D it took me two seconds and now with the -f option in mediainfo cli i can print out detailed info
[00:08] <daftykins> ^_^
[00:08] <daftykins> galaaaa: glad i could help
[00:08] <galaaaa> yeah, i was googling for like hours
[00:08] <galaaaa> for other programs or something, but never thought about that mediainfo could do things like that
[00:11] <vespakoen> Hey guys, I am looking for a way to hide the appmenu in xubuntu 13.10 (+ xmonad)  I have tried many things but they all failed, people are telling me it is not possible, since it is handled at the application level, however, I am wondering if anyone here knows how ubuntu / gnome achieve it?
[00:12] <Anuska> question, if i have dinamic ip how i configure /etc/hosts ?
[00:13] <daftykins> Anuska: hosts has nothing to do with DHCP
[00:16] <Sc0rp10n> hey guys
[00:17] <Sc0rp10n> I'm having a problem with my ubuntu server which is hosting a website
[00:17] <Sc0rp10n> when I do df -k
[00:17] <Sc0rp10n> it says /dev/xvda1 is 100% full
[00:18] <daftykins> Sc0rp10n: can you use paste.ubuntu.com to show "df -h" ?
[00:18] <Sc0rp10n> is there a way to figure out what is taking so much space?
[00:18] <Sc0rp10n> sure
[00:19] <Sc0rp10n> there you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/6527390/
[00:20] <Sc0rp10n> can I find out what is taking all that space?
[00:20] <Sc0rp10n> or is there a way to extend xvda1?
[00:20] <daftykins> wow yeah you're full alright
[00:20] <Sc0rp10n> yea and it's not allowing us to write to the disk
[00:21] <Sc0rp10n> and the server is live
[00:21] <Goldman60> Is it a virtual server?
[00:21] <Sc0rp10n> so it's a big problem right no
[00:21] <Sc0rp10n> yes
[00:21] <Sc0rp10n> amazon ec2
[00:21] <daftykins> Sc0rp10n: do "cd /var/log" then "du -h"
[00:21] <daftykins> and paste the output of that second command to paste.ubuntu.com again
[00:22] <Goldman60> to straight up expand the drive I would assume you need to give Amazon more money
[00:22] <kosmo_> daftykins: I see. Thank you for your time :)
[00:22] <Sc0rp10n> there you go daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/6527405/
[00:22] <Sc0rp10n> money is not an issue
[00:22] <Goldman60> that looks normal to me
[00:23] <Sc0rp10n> yea
[00:23] <Sc0rp10n> it takes like 33m
[00:23] <Goldman60> Are you expecting there to be 50GB of used space?
[00:23] <Goldman60> or is that out of what you would expect?
[00:23] <Sc0rp10n> well we have an assets directory inside /opt
[00:24] <Sc0rp10n> which is full of swfs
[00:24] <daftykins> Sc0rp10n: cd / then du -h again plz
[00:24] <Sc0rp10n> that's going through each file daftykins
[00:24] <Sc0rp10n> you mean df -k?
[00:26] <Goldman60> this may help if you just want to expand the drive through Amazon, I would reccomend figuring out *why* its full too http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/RootDeviceStorage.html#RootDeviceUsageScenarios
[00:28] <daftykins> Sc0rp10n: whilst you're in /, "du -h --max-depth=1 > ~/file" then paste.ubuntu.com ~/file
[00:29] <Sc0rp10n> alright
[00:29] <michaelwang32> how can i get drivers for nvidia vanta 16mb
[00:29] <daftykins> michaelwang32: it's way too old. give up
[00:30] <michaelwang32> i am helping a friend and i need the drivers for nvidia vanta 16mb
[00:31] <bekks> michaelwang32: that cartd is way too old.
[00:33] <michaelwang32> how can i get drivers for nvidia vanta 16mb
[00:33] <michaelwang32> how can i get drivers for nvidia vanta 16mb
[00:33] <michaelwang32> how can i get drivers for nvidia vanta 16mb
[00:33] <michaelwang32> how can i get drivers for nvidia vanta 16mb
[00:33] <FloodBot1> michaelwang32: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:33] <daftykins> michaelwang32: like i told you, too old.
[00:33] <bekks> michaelwang32: That card isnt supported anymore, by nvidia.
[00:35] <Guest96814> i just ran sudo grub-mkconfig and i get the error "error: failed to find canonical path /cow" any ideas what this means?
[00:35] <Beldar> Guest96814, where was this run?
[00:36] <Anuska> what happend in phpmyadmin: when i want to import (Max: 8,192KiB)  ... but i change in php.ini
[00:36] <Guest96814> Beldar: from the ubuntu 13.10 live dvd, i ran "cd /" then "sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[00:37] <Guest96814> i dont get it, what the hell is /cow?
[00:37] <Beldar> Guest96814, you have to chroot to make any changes, what is the end goal here?
[00:38] <Anuska> PHP Fatal error:  Allowed memory size of 262144 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 523800 bytes) in Unknown on line 0
[00:38] <Guest96814> Beldar: to generate a bare grub.cfg and install grub to my mbr
[00:38] <Beldar> Guest96814, this a dualboot, is there any uefi involved?
[00:38] <Goldman60> Anuska your code is overflowing the memory allocated to PHP
[00:39] <Goldman60> you either need to find what is using the memory or allocate more in php.ini
[00:39] <Guest96814> Beldar: yes its an efi version 1, but i am booting grub in cms mode
[00:39] <Anuska> Goldman60 i resolve the problem
[00:39] <bekks> Anuska: Or use mysql for importing, instead of a web gui. :)
[00:39] <Anuska> but i want to import database more then (Max: 8,192KiB)  using phpmyadmin
[00:39] <Anuska> and i change but...
[00:39] <Beldar> Guest96814, cms mode?
[00:40] <Guest96814> Beldar: by cms mode i mean the efi firmware creates a fake bois for me to boot in non efi mode
[00:40] <Anuska> using mysql -u username -p -h localhost DATA-BASE-NAME < data.sql
[00:40] <Beldar> Guest96814, have you tried the bootrepair? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[00:40] <Guest96814> Beldar: from the eyes from grub or the os, it can see a real bios, and has access to int10 for graphics and all the jazz
[00:41] <Guest96814> Beldar: i dont have a gui to browse the web from
[00:41] <Goldman60> Guest96814: What are you booting that needs BIOS on an EFI only system?  If you don't mind me asking
[00:41] <ryan__> how can i get vitrualdj?
[00:41] <Guest96814> Beldar: do you know what /cow is, and why grub would say it can not find it
[00:41] <Sc0rp10n> hey daftykins, that process is taking way too long dude
[00:41] <Beldar> Guest96814, I know grub pretty well, but not in a uefi environment, and don't really recognize what your trying to do.
[00:42] <Sc0rp10n> I just checked our amazon instance and yes the volume size is 50GB
[00:42] <Guest96814> Goldman60: ubuntu and windows xp
[00:42] <Goldman60> ah Windows XP
[00:42] <Goldman60> Ubuntu can boot with Native EFI as long as its a new enough version
[00:42] <Guest96814> Goldman60: this hardware is efi version 1, and i cant seem to get ubuntu to start a gui in efi mode
[00:43] <daftykins> you could go folder by folder in / until you find where the big stuff is - i'm not sure on a better way :S
[00:43] <Guest96814> Goldman60: even from the 13.10 live dvd, when i boot in efi mode i just get a stuck on the boot screen, i can access tty1 though
[00:44] <Goldman60> Have you checked your bios to see if you can switch it to legacy/BIOS instead of EFI?
[00:46] <Guest96814> Goldman60: the legacy bios mode only kicks in if you boot from the MBR, there is no option in the firmware to do it. i was very supprised to but i guess its cus its a very early implamention i had to do a firmware update just to get the cms support
[00:46] <daftykins> Sc0rp10n: oops forgot to highlight you in the above ^
[00:46] <Phoenixz> If I install the frglx driver for an ATI 7790 card, and I would change the graphic card for another ATI 7950 after that, do I have to reinstall this driver again, or should it just conitinue working?
[00:47] <Guest96814> Goldman60: last time to get this to work, i booted ubuntu up, install grub using "grub-install --target-i386 /dev/sda" and then i just booted the ubuntu live cd from inside grub shell and boom i was in CMS/bios mode from then on
[00:48] <Goldman60> Guest96814 I am not very experienced with GRUB, but that is a silly EFI implementation
[00:48] <Sc0rp10n> hey no worries daftykins
[00:48] <Guest96814> Beldar: i would like to install grub to my mbr, in fact i can it work with grub-install. my issue is i cant generate a grub.cfg file as the grub-mkconfig returns the strange "cant find /cow error"
[00:49] <Sc0rp10n> I'm taking the snapshot of the volume online and gonna try something else
[00:49] <Sc0rp10n> like cleaning files
[00:49] <Guest96814> Goldman60: i see, would you happen to know what "/cow"? and why it can not be found
[00:49] <Beldar> Guest96814, I have never put grub in the mbr that way, what is the issue with getting the desktop on the dvd?
[00:49] <Goldman60> I found a (possible) solution but I can't type it out since I gotta go http://askubuntu.com/questions/207663/cannot-update-grub-with-paramters-on-live-usb
[00:50] <Guest96814> Goldman60: "grub-probe error: can not find canonical path of /cow" is the full error message, so this is something to do with grub-proble i think
[00:50] <Guest96814> Beldar: how would you normal install grub?
[00:50] <Beldar> Guest96814, I would just chroot in  and and put grub in the mbr that way
[00:50] <Goldman60> that error is in the link I posted
[00:51] <Goldman60> if you can open it with W3M or equivalent
[00:51] <Guest96814> Beldar: when i boot in efi mode on the ubuntu dvd, my screen stays on the init screen with a bunch of starting.... OK message, if i run sudo startx i get the following error
[00:51] <Beldar> Guest96814, I just use suprgrub and do it from the desktop, but I never have this problem, I keep my ducks in a row.
[00:52] <Guest96814> Beldar: Fatal error: no screen found
[00:52] <Beldar> I don;t have any efi though
[00:52] <CountryfiedLinux> Can anyone make sense of this? http://pastebin.com/STfFVE38
[00:53] <varange> hi you stoned slackers
[00:53] <Guest96814> Beldar: i will boot the arch linux dvd, there is no gui on there and i bet that will startup just fine. then i can install grub using that hopefully
[00:54] <Guest96814> Beldar: thanks for the time
[00:54] <Beldar> varange, Heh I was for 30 years, rarely now. ;)
[00:54] <Beldar> still slack though
[00:54] <Anuska> question about apache+mysql+php with smtp
[00:55] <Anuska> i have smtp to other server ! ssl
[00:55] <Anuska> but i want to send email using my linux via stmp (smtp to the ssl webmail )
[00:55] <Anuska> is oki?
[00:55] <Anuska> not affected the email no?
[00:59] <varange> Beldar, you sad sad person :)
[01:03] <Beldar> varange, nice projection.
[01:04] <varange> Beldar, it is
[01:05] <varange> What is "relative humidity"? DEf: The perspiration on the scrotum when making love to one's cousin
[01:05] <gpb> any suggestions on a way to update 7.04 to 13.04 without a cdrom?
[01:06] <Beldar> !ops | varange
[01:06] <varange> gpb, where on earth did you find 7.04? the Ark?
[01:06] <varange> Aww beldar
[01:06] <varange> be nice
[01:06] <IdleOne> varange: keep it family friendly in here please
[01:07] <gpb> on a machine that typically used by someone else that doesn't use Linux much/at all
[01:08] <Beldar> gpb, Not really an up-dateable situation.
[01:09] <Beldar> gpb, Will the computer boot a usb?
[01:09] <gpb> beldar, yeah I tried setting the sources and doing an update, it goes into some kind of infinite loop when processing the package lists
[01:10] <Beldar> gpb, It would take days and I suspect braek along the way.
[01:11] <Beldar> !eol | gpb here is the info though
[01:12] <gpb> I was thinking d/ling the ISO, then making an entry in grub that boots an loop mount of it
[01:12] <Beldar> gpb, easy with grub 2 never done it with grub legacy.
[01:13] <Beldar> a grub boot of 13.04 as a fresh install would be ideal.
[01:14] <gpb> Yes, I understand the eol and what not.... need a way to upgrade so I can mount an udb device that is not recognized by 7.0.4 to help recover another computer that has breathed it's last
[01:16] <gpb> yeah, I'm OK with overwriting everything on the Linux partitions, but need a way to boot with burning a CD or booting a CD and don't have a USB device that is usable
[01:27] <dondopa> Help please
[01:27] <dondopa> How do I add a path to my bash envionrment?
[01:28] <dondopa> I want to put a script in a folder called "Bin" in my home folder and run it from the command-line by typing it's name
[01:30] <dominic_> where is my spam folder in thunderbird mail
[01:31] <k1l> dondopa: the folder "bin" gets put into the $PATH when you login. just but your stuff there
[01:36] <gpb> dondopa, export PATH=$PATH:./Bin
[01:37] <gpb> dondopa, to keep between sessions, add it to ~/.bash_profile
[01:40] <davidrsmorris> Hi, I'm using a VC404 and Ubuntu thinks that's a black and white terminal, even with $TERM set to vc404.  Does anyone know how to change terminal modes?
[01:41] <dondopa> ok
[01:41] <dondopa> hold on
[01:42] <collisionsystm> export TERM=vt100
[01:42] <dondopa> gpdwhere do you put export PATH=$PATH:./Bin?
[01:42] <collisionsystm> or whatever other
[01:42] <dondopa> do you execute this at the command-line
[01:42] <dondopa> ?
[01:42] <collisionsystm> yeah
[01:44] <dondopa> gdp there is no ~/.bash_profile file in my home folder
[01:44] <dondopa> when I show hidden files
[01:44] <dondopa> I only see .profile
[01:44] <dondopa> and .bashrc
[01:45] <gpb> dondopa, .profile will work
[01:46] <iIlL10Oo> how to install emerge IN ubuntu
[01:47] <iIlL10Oo> how to one key make and install a git cpp repo from github ?
[01:48] <gpb> iIlL100o, why emerge?
[01:48] <gpb> Ubuntu has apt
[01:49] <Guest46708> hello,everyone!
[01:49] <iIlL10Oo> gpb: from git is the newest version
[01:51] <gpb> iIlL100o, use apt to ensure you have the compile tools you need, kernel and libc headers and any other dependencies you need
[01:51] <gpb> including git
[01:52] <gpb> then run git to d/l the repository
[01:52] <gpb> and from the directory you d/l to..,, run make install
[01:52] <dondopa> What should I put in .profile?
[01:53] <iIlL10Oo> gpb: I know how to make and install by my hand , but not one-key , just like emerge's one-key , so I need some tools like emerge
[02:03] <adamu> Hello Everyone
[02:03] <n00bee5> Hi
[02:03] <MarGul> Whats a good editor to edit you php files directly on your ubuntu server? Dont want to use vi because of the insert mode and so on. Would like one with php color highlight
[02:04] <n00bee5> I reinstalled ubuntu 12.10  but kept my encrypted users backedup, how do I add it to my fresh install?
[02:04] <iIlL10Oo> MarGul: try emacs ?
[02:07] <adamu> MarGul, Vim is good once you get used to it
[02:07] <n00bee5> anyone know how to reinstall an encrypted home directory to a fresh install of ubuntu?
[02:08] <n00bee5> I backed it up now need to just restore
[02:09] <zapduino> why do I hear my computer processing on my sound card?
[02:09] <MarGul> adamu: is vim using the same sort of command mode and insert mode as vi?
[02:10] <MarGul> find it slowing me down to much
[02:10] <adamu> MarGul, Yeah
[02:10] <somsip> MarGul: vi/vim is very much a standard and it's worth getting used to. If you want an alternative simple editor, try nano.
[02:11] <adamu> MarGul, Its much faster once you get used to it
[02:13] <lecoeus> vim is good but emacs is better
[02:14] <adamu> lecoeus, Well..I suppose everyone is entitled to their own opinion :/
[02:14] <MarGul> going to see how emacs looks like. Find that vi/vim is messing up the code indenting I have done. But could easaly be fixed when I code php in vi/vim I guess
[02:15] <MarGul> There is ofcourse better ones that I can use on my laptop but then I have to transfer the files all the time to see if its working ;/
[02:19] <somsip> MarGul: just dont edit on the live server. Get a proper deployment system working, even if its to work locally on files and scp/ftp them onto the server
[02:23] <n00bee5> anyone know how to restore a previously encrypted home directory?
[02:23] <MarGul> somsip: Yeah I have actually been thinking about doint that instead. Run like xampp and a proper IDE instead
[02:25] <adamu> MarGul, You could also run LAMP on your local machine :P
[02:25] <MarGul> adamu: guess so hey haha. Little bit new to linux still haha
[02:30] <dvanstone> hang ober
[02:31] <dvanstone> ober baf
[02:33] <twstedwire> hi
[02:34] <dvanstone> halo
[02:34] <adamu> Hi :)
[02:34] <twstedwire> im new
[02:35] <dvanstone> im old
[02:35] <twstedwire> hahaha
[02:35] <profligacy> Can anyone here help me write a paper on thi importance of education?
[02:35] <dvanstone> but new ere
[02:35] <somsip> !ot | profligacy
[02:36] <adamu> twstedwire, Well, Welcome to Ubuntu
[02:36] <dvanstone> path or whereis ?
[02:36] <twstedwire> yeahh
[02:40] <dvanstone> is there an apt- [?] equivalent for
[02:43] <dvanstone> whereis %
[02:45] <Phoenixz> I am trying to install kubutu FROM a USB stick TO another USB stick, but the installer crashes halfway.. Is this a known problem, or something I could avoid somehow?
[02:53] <MarGul> I know this might not be the channel for it but dont get any answers elsewhere. I have netbeans installed on my laptop for my java dev. I want to include the PHP plugin. But when I search for available plugins I cant find PHP. Anyone have somewhere that I can download the plugin manually and install it?
[02:55] <somsip> MarGul: how did you install netbeans?
[02:55] <MarGul> with only the Java tools from netbeans.org
[02:56] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone use bcache? whats the fstab entry look like for the bcache device node?
[02:57] <somsip> MarGul: so install the correct version...
[02:58] <MarGul> well I should be able to just install the PHP plugin to the version I have right now. So I dont have to delete the netbeans I have atm
[02:58] <somsip> MarGul: or look harder http://superuser.com/questions/204498/how-to-add-php-in-netbeans-on-ubuntu
[03:00] <genial> Hello. Trying to install a Ethernet driver in Ubuntu Server 12.04. Added the cdrom as a apt-repo, followed by a aptitude update. However when doing "aptitude install build-essential", it complains about "File not found" from the cdrom. Anyone have any tips?
[03:00] <MarGul> like I said, tried that but in my Available plugins PHP does not show
[03:01] <MarGul> found out how to manually dl and install it
[03:01] <sthruskov> Greetings. I've got a problem with Clementine music player. I installed kde and the media buttons doesn't works, with 'juk' thythmbox rather..
[03:01] <sthruskov> *rhythmbox..
[03:02] <zzxc> Hey does anyone have any experience with setting up AFP?
[03:02] <ubuntuaddicted> so no once has tried bcache yet? i have a small SSD, only 32GB and I want to just use it for caching versus installing it right onto it.
[03:03] <compdoc> ubuntuaddicted, I dont use bcache, but using a small ssd as cache is awesome
[03:04] <ubuntuaddicted> compdoc, if not bcache then what? dmcache, flashcache or what?
[03:04] <sthruskov> can anybody give me a tip?
[03:04] <compdoc> its Intel's cache. you need one of their motherboards that supports it
[03:07] <john____> Hi
[03:08] <wad> Hi guys. I'm trying to figure out how to get my shiny new laptop to boot to Ubuntu where the display isn't just blank.
[03:08] <wad> I documented stuff here: http://pastebin.com/5W9GUVMh
[03:08] <wad> Anyone who can help, please take a look, and give me some ideas!
[03:09] <wad> It says, "Try unloading the conflicting kernel module (and/or reconfigure your kernel without the conflicting driver(s)), then try loading the NVIDIA kernel module again."
[03:09] <wad> But that's a little bit out of my depth. I need some hand-holding, I think.
[03:10] <john____> Hmm
[03:10] <wad> Here's the full dmesg output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6527861/
[03:12] <wad> I think nouveau is colliding with the nvidia driver I installed.
[03:12] <wad> Maybe I should uninstall that, whatever it is?
[03:13] <za> can anyone tell me how to add cpu frequency scaling indocator please
[03:13] <za> indicator
[03:14] <WiGust> Hello. Can anybody help me? /etc/environment doesn't work for users when system startup with Slim. But if it startup with startx it's work. Why?
[03:15] <za> need help on cpu frequency scaling indicator please
[03:16] <ubuntuaddicted> doesnt appear bcache is available for precise. i only see it for raring and saucy
[03:24] <ubuntuaddicted> can someone point me towards a newb compiling instructions? first step of building flashcache is that i need the entire source tree. i don't know where i get that or how. lol
[03:30] <somsip> ubuntuaddicted: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware https://github.com/facebook/flashcache/ http://git-scm.com/book/en/Git-Basics-Getting-a-Git-Repository
[03:30] <ubuntuaddicted> somsip, i just found it, thanks
[03:32] <wad> Hey folks. Anyone here have good luck troubleshooting nvidia video driver issues? My fresh new Ubuntu install results in a blank screen. -_-
[03:45] <wad> Any of you guys had success configuring nvidia drivers? My new ubuntu install just goes to a blank screen. I've made some progress, but now I'm stuck.
[03:46] <wad> I see an error in the lightdm logs, too.
[03:46] <wad> I can see the NVidia card, and the intel card, in the lspci output.
[03:46] <wad> I installed the NVidia drivers.
[04:02] <wad> Do nvidia graphics cards even work under Ubuntu? I'm starting to have my doubts!
[04:05] <v0latil3> test
[04:06] <v0latil3> does anyone have experience with dual booting windows 7 and ubuntu? i have them both installed on a uefi system. i have installed them many times before, but never on uefi. to boot into ubuntu i have to press f11 and select ubuntu from the bios boot menu, then it goes to grub.
[04:06] <v0latil3> is it normal for it to work that way
[04:06] <v0latil3> i thought i had a bios-boot partition but now i do not see it
[04:07] <MissValeska_> Hiya all! I have a question! I am going to buy two graphics cards soon, I am wondering if Ubuntu will be able to support them, And how I will configure them, And install the drivers for them? I know how to do it with one graphics card, I am just wondering if it is any different, Or if I will need multiple drivers.
[04:07] <v0latil3> oh nevermind about the bios boot partition that is for bios systems, and i never had one
[04:07] <DrManhattan> As soon as you create an empty directory, how many links will exist to that directory in the file system?
[04:08] <v0latil3> MissValeska_, what cards?
[04:08] <MissValeska_> Radeon cards, A Radeon HD 7770, And, Probably, A Radeon HD 7850
[04:08] <v0latil3> if you are doing an SLI/CrossFire type setup, there should jsut be one driver
[04:08] <v0latil3> are they going into the same pc
[04:08] <MissValeska_> I don't know if I will be doing that, Or if I even can. I will just put them into my second PCIe slot
[04:09] <MissValeska_> yes?
[04:09] <v0latil3> you should check if you can do CrossFire with your motherboard, otherwise there is no point
[04:09] <v0latil3> unless you have 2 monitors, then it may be able to work that way, im not sure
[04:10] <v0latil3> DrManhattan, what do you mean?
[04:11] <DrManhattan> v0latil3, it's all good. The answer is two. The parent and "."
[04:12] <v0latil3> oh
[04:13] <v0latil3> MissValeska_, what do you plan to do with that setup?
[04:13] <Mississauga> MissValeska_: just bought a motherboard, its manual shows how to install 2 cards though I only use one, see usermanual for Asrock 970 extreme3
[04:13] <remu> I have 2 3TB drives in my system as sdc and sdd. Each has two paritions which are in RAID1 together. sdc1 and sdd1 are combined together as md0, and sdc2 and sdd2 are combined together as md1.
[04:14] <remu> I would like to retain md0, but I would like to get rid of md1 so that I can use sdc2 and sdd2 as two separate partitions.
[04:14] <remu> What is the best way to acheive this without losing the data currently on md1?
[04:15] <v0latil3> how big is md1?
[04:15] <remu> Obviously this is a software RAID.
[04:15] <v0latil3> yes
[04:15] <remu> md1 is 2.5 TB.
[04:16] <v0latil3> so you couldnt copy the files off of it onto md0. i dont have any experience with software RAID
[04:17] <remu> I was thinking of removing sdc2 from md1, so that md1 would be degraded, then copy the files from md1 to sdc2 after it is formatted, then mount sdc2 to where md1 was located, then get rid of md1 alltogether.
[04:17] <v0latil3> maybe if you just delete md1, would sdc2 and sdd2 not just have the same contents?
[04:17] <remu> I'm just not sure what would be the best tools to use, and what arguments need to be passed to them.
[04:17] <v0latil3> yeah what you said makes sense
[04:18] <v0latil3> i cant guarantee it will work though :D
[04:18] <remu> I'm thinking that if I just delete md1 it would get rid of the data, since md1 contains the filesystem, while sdc2 and sdd2 are currently RAID partitions.
[04:19] <v0latil3> no i dont mean delete it. i just meant delete the raid
[04:19] <v0latil3> if thats possible
[04:20] <v0latil3> but i dont know how it works. your idea of removing sdc2 makes the most sense to me
[04:21] <shanahan> how long should jockey-gtk "Additional Drivers" take to install something like a wireless driver?
[04:22] <sfj> Got my laptop running, 9-11 hours estimated for light usage
[04:22] <sfj> not bad at all
[04:23] <v0latil3> lol i get like 3
[04:23] <sfj> I started off at 3
[04:23] <sfj> haha
[04:23] <sfj> I also use a pretty dark screen
[04:23] <v0latil3> what did you do?
[04:23] <sfj> that most people can't read
[04:23] <v0latil3> To increase it so much?
[04:23] <sfj> Bumblebee was huge
[04:24] <v0latil3> Oh. yeah my 3 hours is with bumblebee... :(
[04:24] <shanahan> does it take a while for anyone else?
[04:24] <sfj> shit haha
[04:24] <v0latil3> shanahan, how long has it taken you so far?
[04:25] <sfj> using tlp?
[04:25] <spam> hello
[04:25] <spam> i am having a trouble since i just installed lubuntu
[04:25] <shanahan> V01Px3, about an hour, sometimes too long i have to force quit b/c i have to turn my laptop off, tonight i'm just going to let it run
[04:25] <v0latil3> thats probably not right
[04:25] <MissValeska_> ummm
[04:26] <v0latil3> spam what is your problem
[04:26] <MissValeska_> I have a gigabyte-GA-970A-D3
[04:26] <Guest61838> i did sudo apt-get install lubuntu, restarted computer, then lubuntu opened, but i lost access to the dock and the system search button ... help please
[04:26] <shanahan> v0latil3, damn, there are soo many problems with my broadcom driver version, there're TOO many pages on google to say what to do, idk which one will work..
[04:27] <Guest61838> i did that because ubuntu was running slowly
[04:27] <v0latil3> are you using unity?
[04:27] <Guest61838> i guess so, or at least i think i was on ubuntu
[04:27] <Guest61838> it's standard right? i had 13.04 and never changed it
[04:27] <v0latil3> yeah
[04:27] <sfj> I wanted to destroy unity for the first 30 minutes
[04:27] <Guest61838> yeah so i did sudo apt-get install lubuntu and it pretty much messed everything up
[04:28] <Guest61838> maybe thats the point of lubuntu?? that's its super minimalist, but not being able to open apps from the search bar makes it way too difficult
[04:28] <articsun> Guest61838:  :P
[04:28] <shanahan> Guest61838, log out, click the circle above your username?   did you just install the Desktop Environment?
[04:28] <articsun> Guest61838:  no no you install it via the Dvd or GUi
[04:29] <v0latil3> Guest61838, are you using lxde now?
[04:29] <Guest61838> shanahan, ok ...... and i have no idea what i insatlled
[04:29] <morenoh159> hello all
[04:29] <sfj> hello
[04:29] <morenoh159> I'm setting up a two gpu box
[04:29] <sfj> what do you guys like for an ubuntu equivalent of mirc?
[04:29] <Guest61838> v0latil3 no it was just ubuntu => lubuntu
[04:29] <articsun> ncie MonsieurApple
[04:29] <morenoh159> I managed to install everything fine with one installed
[04:29] <shanahan> Guest61838, does your boot screen say "ubuntu"  or "lubutu" ?  you may just be using gnome and lxde...
[04:29] <articsun> sfj:  Xchat
[04:29] <sfj> I'm on Pidgin now, but not sure if I like it
[04:29] <v0latil3> lubuntu uses lxde does it not?
[04:29] <sfj> k I'll check it out
[04:29] <Guest61838> shanahan: I dont kjnow how to log out
[04:29] <morenoh159> then I plugged the second one in and I'm not getting video out of any ports
[04:29] <Guest61838> v0latil3, no idea
[04:30] <shanahan> Guest61838, ctrl shift backspace?
[04:30] <Guest61838> shanahan - no
[04:30] <SchrodingersScat> !info finch | sfj
[04:30] <Phoenixz> I am trying to install kubutu FROM a USB stick TO another USB stick, but the installer crashes halfway.. Is this a known problem, or something I could avoid somehow?
[04:30] <Guest61838> v0latil3 i would be very happy just go to back to the ubuntu i had earlier today
[04:30] <SchrodingersScat> sfj: nvm, you said mirc, try weechat-ncurses
[04:31] <morenoh159> should I remove the second one, install the ati drivers then try again?
[04:31] <v0latil3> Phoenixz, what is the partition setup on the usb stick you are installing to?
[04:31] <Guest61838> all i did was sudo apt-get install lubuntu + restart, can't be that hard to undo that can it??
[04:31] <Abhijit> hi. is there any way to check if ftp upload if finished to the server while i am accessing server from another client? ubuntu 12.04
[04:31] <SchrodingersScat> !info weechat-ncurses | sfj
[04:31] <sfj> ah okay
[04:32] <v0latil3> morenoh159, do you have the normal login screen?
[04:32] <Phoenixz> v0latil3: I just do "sdb use entire disk", the simplest option
[04:32] <v0latil3> hmm
[04:33] <morenoh159> no, but I do see the request for my hdd encryption key
[04:33] <v0latil3> i just did that with ubuntu yesterday
[04:33] <v0latil3> worked fine for me
[04:33] <morenoh159> then I get a black screen
[04:33] <v0latil3> i set up the partitions manually though
[04:33] <Phoenixz> v0latil3: Ah, maybe I can try that.. Anything specific on partition setup?
[04:34] <morenoh159> yeah just uplugged the second one, I'll try to install the drivers, hopefully the 2nd card isn't broken
[04:34] <Abhijit> Is there any way to check if sftp upload to the ubuntu 12.04 server is finished, while i am accessing server from another client?
[04:34] <v0latil3> ah darn msg doesnt open new window in this client
[04:34] <morenoh159> I get normal behaviour when I remove the second card
[04:34] <v0latil3> Phoenixz, what size usb stick?
[04:35] <Phoenixz> v0latil3: 8GB
[04:35] <v0latil3> ok
[04:35] <v0latil3> do you care if it is GPT or MBR?
[04:35] <v0latil3> it probably wouldnt matter to you
[04:36] <v0latil3> because mbr would only help with windows, which cant read linux fs anyway
[04:36] <v0latil3> Phoenixz, do you want the whole drive to kubuntu? you could even have a 1GB partition to use in windows if you  want. there is a lot you can do
[04:38] <Phoenixz> v0latil3: Nah, this USB is basically a normal platter HD replacement for a very small light server that wont do anything with disk, and I need to make like 20 of em, so I dont want to spend money on more expensive HD drives.. Basically, about 2 GB would suffice
[04:38] <Phoenixz> I'd need to make a /boot of about 200MB then, and just the / partition 2GB and that would do, not?
[04:38] <v0latil3> Okay
[04:38] <v0latil3> that would work. i did a separate home partition for mine
[04:39] <v0latil3> i used btrfs, and enabled compression on mine for any extra stuff to squeeze in too
[04:39] <Guest61838> can anyone take a look? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20416050/undo-lubuntu-install
[04:40] <v0latil3> sudo apt-get remove lubuntu?
[04:40] <GusBricker> hello, anyone here good with backups?
[04:40] <v0latil3> Guest61838, maybe try that
[04:40] <GusBricker> i have a hopefully quick question
[04:40] <v0latil3> Please ask.
[04:40] <Abhijit> Guest61838, that belongs to askubuntu
[04:41] <GusBricker> im trying to mirror a folder on an ubuntu server which has live files on it (ie they change regularly)
[04:42] <Phoenixz> v0latil3: btrfs? kinky! :) Is that something that realistically can be used on something production?
[04:42] <v0latil3> I think it is stable now.
[04:42] <v0latil3> ext4 should work okay if you are not confident about using btrfs though.
[04:43] <v0latil3> i was going to move my desktop from ext4 to it too.
[04:43] <v0latil3> this says no: https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/FAQ#Is_btrfs_stable.3F
[04:44] <v0latil3> Short answer: No, it's still considered experimental
[04:44] <v0latil3> Pragmatic answer: (2012-12-19) Many of the developers and testers run btrfs as their primary filesystem for day-to-day usage, or with various forms of "real" data. With reliable hardware and up-to-date kernels, we see very few unrecoverable problems showing up. As always, keep backups, test them, and be prepared to use them.
[04:45] <Abhijit> GusBricker, why not do the simple tar to backup updates files every X minutes?
[04:45] <stevildead> need help installing skryim thru wine, have already downloaded the game, folders contains; setup.exe, setup-1.bin (as well as 2 and 3). also using ubuntu 8.04
[04:45] <v0latil3> Phoenixz, I think it depends what you are using it for.
[04:45] <GusBricker> Abhijit: do you mean just take a tar of the directory periodically?
[04:47] <Abhijit> GusBricker, thats the simplest one. if you want more features than have a look at rsync or others.
[04:47] <GusBricker> Abhijit: the problem with an approach like that is when the files change, the tar/rsync process usually fails
[04:47] <Phoenixz> pl
[04:47] <Phoenixz> ok
[04:49] <Abhijit> GusBricker, by change, do you mean the content of the files change or do you mean the whole files and their names and their location gets changed?
[04:49] <stevildead> need help with wine, anyone?
[04:49] <Abhijit> stevildead, @winehq
[04:49] <Abhijit> stevildead, #winehq
[04:49] <Abhijit> Is there any way to check if sftp upload to the ubuntu 12.04 server is finished, while i am accessing server from another client?
[04:49] <GusBricker> Abhijit: both, the contents may change, the file may get deleted or new files may get added
[04:50] <stevildead> Abhijit: i tried, rooms empty
[04:50] <Guest61053> What is the difference between android and Linux or how they are related ?
[04:50] <Abhijit> GusBricker, do you want to preserve the old files?
[04:51] <GusBricker> Abhijit: nope, just want a stable backup of the directory at a given point in time
[04:51] <stevildead> Abhijit: any other suggestions? or would u know how to install a game with wine. ive done it before but im not sure whats wrong this time
[04:51] <Abhijit> Guest61053, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_%28operating_system%29
[04:52] <Abhijit> stevildead, wine file.exe in terminal
[04:52] <Abhijit> GusBricker, better try tar.
[04:53] <Abhijit> GusBricker, may be this will be helpful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[04:53] <grache28> anyone had problems with the keyboard not being detected in ubuntu 13.10 server install?? It works on the first screen which asks for my language and whether i want to install, boot from hd, repair, check disk. But once I get in the install menu my kb no longer responds. the computer doesn't have any ps2, and I've tried every single usb port, it won't recognize the keyboard
[04:53] <Ben64> !appdb | stevildead
[04:54] <Ben64> stevildead: wait, ubuntu 8.04? you need to upgrade.
[04:54] <GusBricker> Abhijit: thanks for help, but tar wont do it
[04:54] <grache28> in lieu of making that work, is there any ubuntu images that are under 700megs that have the gui installer? can't boot from usb and only have cds to burn
[04:54] <Abhijit> stevildead, also http://www.playdeb.net/welcome/
[04:54] <GusBricker> Abhijit: will keep hunting around
[04:55] <Abhijit> GusBricker, tar just read the file and store it in destination. why would it fail if file change. it has nothing to do with file content etc?
[04:55] <Ben64> grache28: there are a few under 700MB, like the 12.04 disc
[04:56] <stevildead> Abhijit: yes i kno this trust me, just got the laptop (no cd drive) so im having an issue updating
[04:56] <Beldar> grache28, There are the net installs too.
[04:56] <stevildead> Abhijit: just really wanted to play skyrim
[04:57] <grache28> cool, where can i get those, having trouble because the ubuntu page is hyper user friendly, won't let me see a list of images and their sizes
[04:57] <Abhijit> stevildead, you are having issue updating what? wine or ubuntu?
[04:58] <stevildead> Abhijit: i put that in the terminal and got runtime error -1.0.
[04:58] <grache28> lts is 708, aren't cd-rs 700mb?
[04:58] <Abhijit> stevildead, put what?
[04:58] <grache28> is that a cruel joke?
[04:58] <GusBricker> Abhijit: if you start tarring, tar adds file X to the archive, then adds say another 100 files, file X is then deleted off the disk for some reason, tar then adds more files, and finished.
[04:58] <grache28> Beldar: where are the net installs?
[04:58] <stevildead> Abhijit: wine file.exe
[04:59] <grache28> Beldar: found it thanks
[04:59] <GusBricker> Abhijit: that backup is technically not a correct snapshot of that folder, as it has file X sitting there doing nothing
[04:59] <Beldar> grache28, cool
[04:59] <stevildead> Abhijit: and issues updating ubuntu, well and wine too really
[04:59] <Abhijit> GusBricker, better ask on serverfault.
[05:00] <GusBricker> Abhijit: proper backups usually hook into the OS some how and stage file changes so that a stable consistent snap shot can be created
[05:00] <stevildead> Abhijit: i was going to try and install version 12 from usb install
[05:00] <CryptoKing> anyone every had many issues with installing onto USB
[05:00]  * grache28 worries that if the installer for server didn't detect kb, that the netinstall is probably running the same installer and won't either :(
[05:01] <CryptoKing> i can get it running, but sometimes dosent see usb
[05:01] <Beldar> CryptoKing, State the issues for help, and no.
[05:01] <CryptoKing> and just boots straight into bios
[05:03] <CryptoKing> i just went and bought a hd anyway i was loosing my shit to much
[05:03] <Beldar> !language | CryptoKing
[05:03] <Abhijit> stevildead, can you intsall any other package?
[05:03] <shanahan> when i use jockey-gtk to install a wireless driver, it disconnects the wifi and shows the 'installing drivers' bar.  So i plugged in an ethernet cable that's how i'm on now
[05:04] <shanahan> when using jockey-gtk to install wireless drivers do you always need a hard connection?
[05:04] <v0latil3> if wifi was connected in the first place, why are you trying to install a different driver?
[05:04] <Abhijit> GusBricker, did you looked here http://serverfault.com/questions/373452/simple-linux-live-system-backup-to-files i think its not the backup method, but the os configuration which is causing the issue.
[05:05] <shanahan> v0latil3, boot screen sometimes shows error messages involving "b43 wl..."  it has to do with my broadcom wireless card, sometimes it freezes.
[05:05] <shanahan> v0latil3, so i thought this might fix it
[05:06] <v0latil3> shanahan, what is the error message?
[05:07] <shanahan> v0latil3, " [    9.625943] Support for cores revisions 0x17 and 0x18 disabled by module param allhwsupport=0. Try b43.allhwsupport=1"
[05:07] <Abhijit> Is there any way to check if sftp upload to the ubuntu 12.04 server is finished, while i am accessing server from another client?
[05:07] <stevildead> Abhijit: yes
[05:07] <fishcooker> im on ubuntu server installation.. there is an option about the kernel thing, which one should i choose?
[05:08] <v0latil3> the kernel thing?
[05:08] <v0latil3> thats a little ambiguous. maybe someone else knows what you mean i guess
[05:09] <Abhijit> stevildead, did you tried uninstall wine, update repo and install wine again?
[05:09] <fishcooker> im on ubuntu server installation.. there is options about to choose the kernel, which one should i choose v0latil3?
[05:09] <v0latil3> what are the options?
[05:09] <fishcooker> linux image generic
[05:09] <fishcooker> linux image generic pae
[05:09] <v0latil3> how much ram do you have?
[05:10] <fishcooker> linux image extra
[05:10] <shanahan> v0latil3, googled it and there are so many different, "solutions" ... :(
[05:10] <fishcooker> 2Gigs
[05:10] <v0latil3> PAE is for 4 GB plus i think
[05:10] <v0latil3> im not sure what extra means.
[05:10] <v0latil3> the 1st option should work.
[05:10] <wheatthin> it means petabytes I think :P
[05:11] <v0latil3> extra? lol
[05:11] <wheatthin> 4gb plus :)
[05:11] <SonikkuAmerica> !PAE
[05:11] <josuer08> hello
[05:12] <v0latil3> fishcooker, go with linux image generic
[05:12] <v0latil3> if you are missing drivers/modules after you install, just install the extras too
[05:12] <SonikkuAmerica> PAE == Physical Address Extension. Your computer must support PAE to operate on more recent versions of the Linux kernel. You can check using [ car /proc/cpuinfo | grep flags ]
[05:12] <SonikkuAmerica> PAE == Physical Address Extension. Your computer must support PAE to operate on more recent versions of the Linux kernel. You can check using *[ cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep flags ]
[05:13] <SonikkuAmerica> (cat, not "car")
[05:14] <v0latil3> The program 'car' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[05:14] <v0latil3> sudo apt-get install ucommon-utils
[05:14] <v0latil3> hlep plzz
[05:14] <Beldar> meow
[05:14] <GusBricker> Abhijit: rsnapshot looks promising, reading up on it now. thanks!
[05:14] <v0latil3> purr
[05:14] <tzu_chi> How did mark twain and ralph waldo emerson write such good stories without the computer?
[05:15] <v0latil3> idk probably cheat codes
[05:15] <Abhijit> ok
[05:15] <stevildead> Abhijit: i will
[05:16] <Abhijit> Is there any way to check if sftp upload to the ubuntu 12.04 server is finished, while i am accessing server from another client?
[05:16] <tzu_chi> I think Ubuntu is a great project. There are good intentions.
[05:16] <v0latil3> tzu_chi, if you want to try i think the combo is jump duck, do a 180, look up then down, and go punch the nearest NPC by you
[05:18] <stevildead> Abhijit: wait how do u update the repo?
[05:19] <Ben64> stevildead: 8.04 is no longer supported here, you need to upgrade or install a supported release
[05:22] <stevildead> Ben64: i have no cd drive, is there a way (other than usb) i can install the newer version
[05:22] <v0latil3> apt-get dist upgrade i think
[05:22] <v0latil3> unless thats so old it doesnt work
[05:24] <xangua> !eol | stevildead
[05:29] <tsnyph> hello, i need some help please. I went to an adult website and now i am locked on a page and cant close firefox. everytime i re load it, it goes back to the adult webpage
[05:29] <Beldar> tsnyph, open a terminal and run killall firefox
[05:29] <eg0x> or "xkill" and click on the window you want to close
[05:29] <Beldar> tsnyph, Ah clear the cookies and history
[05:29] <tsnyph> firefox: no process found
[05:29] <eg0x> without " of course
[05:30] <tsnyph> how to clear it manually? it wont let me do it in firefox
[05:31] <tsnyph> Beldar,  which ones do i delete in the firefox folder?
[05:31] <xangua> tsnyph: you can just delete your .mozilla directory if you don't have any sensitive information
[05:31] <tsnyph> just delete the whole folder?
[05:32] <Beldar> yeah the config should save the bookmarks
[05:33] <fishcooker> thanks v0latil3 i follow your direction
[05:35] <Beldar> tsnyph, I have FF remove all history and cookies...etc with click&clean an addon there are other cleaners in genewral though.
[05:35] <tsnyph> what would make firefox lock up like that in the first place? a popup was coming up saying leave page and it wouldnt leave the page and i couldnt close any tabs ect
[05:37] <Beldar> tsnyph, WOT is a pretty good website checker you will see a green icon on safe sites.
[05:38] <Abhijit> !update | stevildead
[05:38] <Abhijit> stevildead, you are using 8.04?
[05:43] <MajSlayer7777> hello, got a small problem, install the LAMP on unbuntu 13.10, but it keeps displaying warning messages for this one PHP program I use. about using .date
[05:43] <MajSlayer7777> I adjusted the php.ini, restarted apache2, but the error still displays
[05:44] <bambanx> guys how i can copy all the content of a folder A , in anohter folder B is inside of folder A ?
[05:44] <MajSlayer7777> I'd try and rewrite the code, but am new to PHP and would just like the warnings turned off. sadly #PHP is +i
[05:45] <bambanx> ant help?
[05:47] <stevildead> Abhijit: yes
[05:48] <stevildead> Abhijit: i put in the terminal, sudo do-release upgrade and it said no new release found
[05:49] <b2w> how to install ubuntu in raspberrypi?
[05:53] <ctcb> I have my USB Stick formatted, with fat32 and the "boot" flag. How do I write an ISO to it in terminal without it removing the filesystem and bootflag?
[05:53] <Abhijit> !eol | stevildead
[05:53] <Ben64> ctcb: you don't
[05:54] <Abhijit> stevildead, get on some supported ubuntu version.
[05:54] <ctcb> Ben64, what do I do then? :P
[05:54] <stevildead> Abhijit: im on the ubuntu site
[05:55] <Abhijit> Is there any way to check if sftp upload to the ubuntu 12.04 server is finished, while i am accessing server from another client?
[05:55] <Ben64> ctcb: you can either use dd to directly write an iso to the drive, which kills all information on it, use something like unetbootin which probably wants an ext3 filesystem for it, or some other usb iso manager thingy
[05:55] <ctcb> Ben64, UNetbootin doesn't work with Windows ISO's as far as I can tell.
[05:55] <Ben64> ctcb: then why are you in #ubuntu? go to ##windows
[05:55] <Beldar> ctcb, what windows release?
[05:56] <ctcb> Windows 8.1
[05:56] <Beldar> ctcb, I'm on ##windows go there.
[05:56] <ctcb> Ben64, I'm using Ubuntu to write the ISO to the USB.
[05:56] <ctcb> As far as I can tell, this is a problem on Ubuntu's end.
[05:57] <Beldar> ctcb, Make it a ntfs, with bootflag then right click iso and use the archive manager to exstract it to the usb.
[05:58] <Ben64> alternatively, use ##windows for windows support
[05:58] <ctcb> Beldar, If I am correct, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 only support FAT32.
[05:58] <Beldar> ctcb, that is my once and only answer, and it works.
[05:59] <Beldar> on this channel anyway.
[06:00] <Abhijit> Is there any way to check if sftp upload to the ubuntu 12.04 server is finished, while i am accessing server from another client?
[06:00] <ctcb> Beldar, I'm on the other channel. ;)
[06:00] <b2w>  how to install ubuntu in raspberrypi?
[06:01] <yash069> Abhijit: yes, if u know the file size .
[06:01] <Ben64> b2w: you should ask in #raspberrypi , but i'm fairly sure it is impossible
[06:03] <Abhijit> yash069, by using some program. maybe visually.
[06:04] <yash069> Abhijit: grep sshd:session /var/log/auth.log | tail -1 | awk '{print $8}'
[06:04] <yash069> + will return "opened" or "closed" or nothing if no sessions ever used.
[06:05] <Abhijit> yash069, closed
[06:06] <yash069> closed means no transfer ...
[06:06] <yash069> open mean ongoing trasfer
[06:06] <Abhijit> yash069, does that mean uploading finished?
[06:07] <c_smith_> Abhijit, it could ALSO mean the transfer failed due to some error, i.e, network timeout
[06:07] <Abhijit> ok. that is what i was looking for.
[06:07] <Abhijit> so there in so sure way of doing this? we need to all this manually.
[06:08] <c_smith_> a good way to check if the file uploaded correctly is to md5sum it on both machines and compare the server's md5sum to the local file.
[06:08] <Abhijit> yeah.
[06:09] <c_smith_> if they match, then that's a good indicator it finished successfully
[06:09] <Abhijit> right.
[06:10] <dhaval2712> popey:
[06:10] <dhaval2712> popey: You here man?
[06:11] <kevin__> "Sir...this place is dead, whatever happened here I think we missed it..."
[06:11] <meltingwax> is there *any* way (even through virtualbox, wine, etc) to put songs on my iphone 4s / 7.0.3?
[06:12] <Abhijit> meltingwax, #mac
[06:13] <Konata> I am trying to download Ubuntu Server 12 LTS, and have two problems
[06:13] <Konata> (64 bit)
[06:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: Fire away.
[06:13] <Konata> First problem... Every time I pass http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=server&bits=64&release=lts to wget, it keeps trying to download 32-bit
[06:13] <Konata> secondly
[06:13] <Konata> It keeps downloading 13.10
[06:13] <SonikkuAmerica> kevin__: I doubt we're dead.
[06:13] <Konata> I want 12.04.3
[06:14] <kevin__> lol
[06:14] <Konata> Actually you know what
[06:14] <Konata> it's wget being a douche
[06:14] <Konata> I pass that URL to it and it only fetches "http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=server"
[06:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: Oh! You might have found the wrong place on the Web site. Go here, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server , and click "Get Ubuntu 12.04 LTS"
[06:14] <Konata> No I'm purposely trying to download server edition
[06:15] <Konata> It works fine when I click through on a browser
[06:15] <Konata> but wget doesn't work
[06:15] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: Oh! Here: [ wget http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04.3-server-amd64.iso ]
[06:16] <Konata> hue
[06:16] <Konata> one moment
[06:16] <vs73nx> meltingwax: to  my knowledge no way to use itunes with ubuntu through wine... you could try virtualbox...
[06:16] <yash069> meltingwax: no, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1347
[06:16] <Konata> SonikkuAmerica, worked like a charm
[06:17] <Konata> thank you kindly
[06:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: :)
[06:17] <Konata> Now that I've wasted like
[06:17] <meltingwax> i'm trying virtualbox, but it's not picking up my usb device
[06:17] <Konata> 500MB of my precious 80GB monthly cap
[06:17] <Konata> (Because screw canadian ISPs, that's why)
[06:17] <meltingwax> virtualbox itself, not the guest os
[06:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: For future reference: All the Ubuntu proper (Unity) and Ubuntu Server images are on http://releases.ubuntu.com , and the other flavors are on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com
[06:17] <Konata> SonikkuAmerica, ah
[06:17] <Konata> I was just navigating the website ubuntu.co
[06:18] <Konata> *.com
[06:18] <Konata> So thanks for the tip
[06:18] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: The links there are pointers to that server tree.
[06:19] <SonikkuAmerica> meltingwax: [ sudo usermod -aG vboxusers meltingwax ] (replace "meltingwax" with your user name), reboot, and then install the Guest Additions if you haven't already.
[06:19] <SonikkuAmerica> meltingwax: (reboot == reboot the host maching)
[06:19] <SonikkuAmerica> (*machine)
[06:19] <grahamsavage> is there anyway of telling what software is connected to a particular socket?
[06:19] <grahamsavage> e.g unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     51496645 /var/run/postgresql/.s.PGSQL.5432
[06:20] <Konata> idk about sockets... but netstat -pantu tells me what programs are using a specific port, I thought
[06:21] <grahamsavage> Konata: awesom i just trial and errored it to netstat - pan
[06:21] <grahamsavage> t or u must be restrict to tcp /udp
[06:22] <Konata> How do I summon a channel op
[06:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: Um, you don't wanna do that unless there's an emergency in the channel. (#ubuntu channel rules)
[06:23] <Beldar> Konata, You can go to #freenode or #ubuntu-ops
[06:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: I could tell you who's online though
[06:23] <Konata> Well, all I'm trying to do is basically report the unsolicited message
[06:23] <Konata> Involving, what seem to be uh
[06:23] <Konata> spanish naked ladies
[06:23] <Konata> idk
[06:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: If unsolicited PM, then #freenode
[06:24] <Konata> right-o then
[06:25] <meltingwax> SonikkuAmerica: does not work. also, when i plug in my phone it says "Trust this computer?" and when I click "Trust", it vibrates and then shows the prompt again
[06:27] <Konata> Oh gosh darnit
[06:27] <Konata> wget corrupted my file
[06:27] <Konata> thanks, wget
[06:27] <Beldar> Konata, I have pm's off just for that reason, if your registered at the least the pm'er has to be registered.
[06:27] <Konata> Just wasted a GB of bandwidth downloading ubuntu
[06:27] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: You can try using a BitTorrent client or zsync as well.
[06:28] <Konata> my ISP throttles bittorrent
[06:28] <Konata> It'd take me like
[06:28] <Konata> hours
[06:28] <v0latil3> wow that sucks
[06:28] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: Ouch. zsync might work, but that'll take time too
[06:28] <v0latil3> hmm i just got a pm from a guy too
[06:28] <v0latil3> to some spanish site
[06:29] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: Also, zsync is good for changing in between Ubuntu flavors without downloading the whole image file over again, or updating daily builds of images.
[06:29] <SonikkuAmerica> v0latil3: Tell #freenode ?
[06:29] <SonikkuAmerica> v0latil3: A few people here did already; enough complaints and he might get a k-line
[06:30] <Konata> By chance
[06:30] <Konata> does anyone have the md5 for the image I just downloaded
[06:30] <Konata> the ubuntu server iso 64-bit 12.04.2
[06:30] <v0latil3> Konata, the md5 is in the iso
[06:30] <v0latil3> just open it
[06:30] <Konata> o
[06:30] <Guest43014> I'm having some instablility issues with Ubuntu 13.10
[06:31] <v0latil3> SonikkuAmerica, what should i tell #freenode?
[06:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: Just open it and check it against http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/MD5SUMS/
[06:31] <Konata> v0latil3, (Konata) "(pimpoint) show gratis (solo hooy) --> (url redacted)"
[06:31] <Beldar> Guest43014, tell the channel your problems for help. ;)
[06:31] <v0latil3> ok
[06:31] <Konata> SonikkuAmerica, nice 404
[06:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Konata: errr.. what?
[06:33] <Guest43014> Just begun to happen...I'm watching a movie using VLC and thats about it really other than some Nautilus usage
[06:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest43014: Can we have some !details ?
[06:33] <Konata> Not Found
[06:33] <Konata> The requested URL /precise/MD5SUMS/ was not found on this server.
[06:33] <Konata> p. much that
[06:33] <Guest43014> about 20 mins into the session...complete freeze
[06:33] <yash069> Konata: late reply though
[06:33] <Guest43014> What details do u need from me?
[06:33] <yash069> you need to quote the url
[06:33] <yash069> wget "http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=server&bits=64&release=lts"
[06:33] <Konata> Oh
[06:34] <SonikkuAmerica> yash069: Does that URL work with wget? (i.e. does it DL the ISO correctly?)
[06:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest43014: Particularly what happens with your Ubuntu install that makes it "unstable"?
[06:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest43014: Also, 32-bit (i386) or 64-bit (amd64)?
[06:35] <yash069> SonikkuAmerica: http://pbrd.co/1khISgs
[06:35] <yash069> yes
[06:35] <Guest43014> It has happened twice now today.  But yesterday everything was fine, no instability.  64-bit install
[06:36] <SonikkuAmerica> yash069: Ah, that link points at the closest server to DL
[06:36] <yash069> hmm
[06:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest43014: But *what* exactly? (Error message(s)? Crash dialog(s)? &c.?)
[06:37] <Guest43014> No error messages or anything just complete freeze.  Have to resort to cold booted (or hard booting i.e holding down the power button)
[06:38] <Beldar> !reisub | Guest43014
[06:39] <Guest43014> I will check that out thanks
[06:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Beldar: Sometimes SysRq commands are disabled by default because of their powerful ramifications. Just a pro forma.
[06:40] <Guest43014> Is there an application I can use to check Filesystem health?
[06:40] <Guest43014> like a Defragger etc...
[06:40] <v0latil3> SonikkuAmerica, i want to try that. what if i dont have a sysrq key?
[06:41] <v0latil3> oh printscreen
[06:41] <zeroneg> anyone having issues getting teamviewer to start once installed?
[06:41] <SonikkuAmerica> v0latil3: Usually it's PrtScrn, mine is Fn+Home
[06:41] <v0latil3> aaaaandd i took a screenshot, no fancy linux thing
[06:41] <v0latil3> SonikkuAmerica, same with mine
[06:41] <SonikkuAmerica> v0latil3: Toshiba
[06:41] <v0latil3> it just make a screenshot
[06:41] <SonikkuAmerica> ?
[06:41] <v0latil3> no logitech
[06:41] <SonikkuAmerica> v0latil3: You have to hit Alt+Fn+Home
[06:42] <v0latil3> i did.
[06:42] <v0latil3> do i release those then type the other keys?
[06:42] <SonikkuAmerica> No, hold them down
[06:42] <v0latil3> oh
[06:42] <ObrienDave> no hold them down, then type the reisub sequence about 3 to 5 seconds apart
[06:43] <v0latil3> thats awesome
[06:43] <cfhowlett> !anyone|zeroneg,
[06:44] <SonikkuAmerica> If you get "This sysrq command is disabled," first run [ echo kernel.sysrq=1 | sudo tee -a /etc/sysctl.conf ]
[06:45] <v0latil3> hmm doesnt do it
[06:45] <asda> can anybody help uninstall lubuntu
[06:45] <SonikkuAmerica> v0latil3: If you get "This sysrq command is disabled," first run [ echo kernel.sysrq=1 | sudo tee -a /etc/sysctl.conf ]
[06:46] <v0latil3> where would it say that message?
[06:46] <SonikkuAmerica> asda: Absolutely, type "/join #lubuntu" (without the quotes)
[06:47] <SonikkuAmerica> v0latil3: Probably in a tty (Ctrl+Alt+F1 also displays real-time dmesg output)
[06:47] <SonikkuAmerica> v0latil3: (in sysrq and other vital cases)
[06:48] <zeroneg> hey, cfhowlet, doesn't help. but thanks.
[06:49] <SonikkuAmerica> zeroneg: What he means is actually state what you need help with, not just "AAAHHHH! HELP ME! HELP ME!"
[06:49] <zeroneg> i need help finding out what others have done to get it working...i thought that was implied by the question.
[06:51] <cfhowlett> zeroneg, no details = no help.  just like at the doctor.
[06:51] <ObrienDave> nothing is implied or assumed. most humans fail mindreading class
[06:51] <v0latil3_> well im not sure what i did
[06:51] <Guest43014> "We set down there on company orders to get this thing,which destroyed my crew...and your expensive ship"
[06:52] <v0latil3_> said i pressed ctrl alt delete, then halted lol
[06:52] <ipython__3> hi. I'm using python3.   print("1\r2\r")  gets 2. What I expected is 1 2. What seems is the problem?
[06:52] <zeroneg> any issue with my question is semantics at this point. So, how bout it, guys? We gonna be nazis regarding my direct and indirect objects too, or be the help that is recommended by such a great distribution. I go to the doctor and say my leg hurts, he asks questions to get the clarification he needs to fix it. the issue is that the application is not launching...per the original question. screw this...i did help desk for years...this is not helping.
[06:57] <Gotango> #RIPNelsonMandela
[06:58] <Gotango> Ubuntu would never have been possible without you
[06:59] <v0latil3_> lol
[06:59] <v0latil3_> dammit pimpoint msging me again
[07:00] <cfhowlett> !ops|pimpoint spam on PM
[07:00] <apb1963_> So I was running update-manager, and it was in the middle of downloading a buttload of updates when my system crashed.  Now, it says "The installation or removal of a software package failed."  Not sure what to do with at this point.
[07:01] <cfhowlett> apb1963, assume that the previous operation is fragged and attempt it again.
[07:01] <apb1963_> sure..... but how?
[07:01] <apb1963_> I just get the same thing over and over.
[07:02] <SonikkuAmerica> cfhowlett: Isn't that a thing for #freenode ?
[07:02] <cfhowlett> apb1963, in terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade      is what I usually run.
[07:02] <MarGul> I have now set up ssh-key authorization, checked my .ssh/authorized_keys on my server and my key is in there. But when im loggin in from my client I still need to use my password. I though this ssh key was the authensication and that I dont need to use a password to log into my server
[07:02] <cfhowlett> SonikkuAmerica, I THINK the channel ops monitor within channel.  !ops wanna comment?
[07:04] <v0latil3_> MarGul, did your key have a passphrase?
[07:04] <apb1963_> That doesn't sound like a definitive "this will fix the problem" type of answer, but more of a "try this and see what happens" kind of answer that is fine for experiments but not so fine for someone dependent on one and only one machine.
[07:04] <v0latil3_> did you edit your sshd_config?
[07:06] <stevildead> i am downloading ubuntu 12.04 to a hard drive. can i install it from there?
[07:06] <v0latil3_> stevildead, what os do you have on the computer
[07:07] <MarGul> v0latil3_: yes my key had a passphrase and no I haven't done anything in sshd_config. followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[07:07] <v0latil3_> okay
[07:07] <ObrienDave> stevildead, best to burn the ISO to DVD or USB stick, reboot, and install from the ISO
[07:07] <v0latil3_> MarGul, if the key had a passphrase, then you will need to type that when you connect still
[07:08] <stevildead> the computer i want to put it on (currently using) has no cd drive and ubuntu 8.04 which is eol
[07:08] <v0latil3_> stevildead, do you have grub bootloader on the pc you are trying to install it on?
[07:08] <v0latil3_> oh yes you do
[07:08] <v0latil3_> you can boot an iso from grub
[07:08] <v0latil3_> what grub version do you have?
[07:09] <stevildead> v0latil3_: im not certain
[07:09] <SonikkuAmerica> v0latil3_: Not with GRUB Legacy you can't!!
[07:09] <v0latil3_> thats why i asked what version :D
[07:09] <stevildead> ObrienDave: i dont have a cd drive, or a usb stick large enough
[07:09] <v0latil3_> how do you tell what grub version you have?
[07:10] <stevildead> v0latil3_: i dont kno
[07:10] <v0latil3_> oh
[07:10] <MarGul> v0latil3_: So what does the whole key authensication do then? Just make my connection encrypted or something? (first time setting up a webserver and Im a bit curious :))
[07:10] <v0latil3_> stevildead, do grub-install -v
[07:10] <stevildead> v0latil3_: again its hardy heron :( outdated
[07:11] <v0latil3_> MarGul, yes.
[07:11] <SonikkuAmerica> v0latil3_: [ sudo apt-cache policy (grub-pc || grub-efi)]
[07:11] <v0latil3_> you should edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config to disable plain text pass login also
[07:11] <v0latil3_> so it is more secure
[07:11] <stevildead> v0latil3_: ? when i have the hard drive with the os on it plugged in orrrr
[07:12] <v0latil3_> MarGul, instead of typing a password to tell the server its you, it uses that key that you made, so it is more secure. you are never transmitting the key over the connection
[07:12] <v0latil3_> stevildead, yes
[07:12] <v0latil3_> stevildead, when you are logged into the 8.04 installation
[07:12] <stevildead> v0latil3_: ok
[07:13] <MarGul> v0latil3_: Ok and if I wouldnt have chosen a passphrase the person logging in would still have to have the corresponding RSA key on his client machine? so the password is just "extra"
[07:14] <v0latil3_> yes
[07:14] <stevildead> v0latil3_: im literally on it now
[07:14] <v0latil3_> so even if someone steals your key they have to find the pass, AND connect with the key
[07:15] <stevildead> v0latil3_: the download just finished on my other comp, and is now on the hard drive
[07:15] <MarGul> Okey perfect. Thanks a lot :)
[07:15] <v0latil3_> stevildead, open terminal, type grub-install -v
[07:15] <apb1963_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:15] <apb1963_>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdesdk-scripts_4%3a4.11.97-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04~ppa2_all.deb
[07:15] <stevildead> v0latil3_: its doesnt matter about the other items on said hard drive right, like wont hurt anything. it isnt mine personally
[07:16] <v0latil3_> MarGul, here is a good guide for secureing the server's sshd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=831372
[07:16] <v0latil3_> that command? it wont hurt anything
[07:16] <v0latil3_> it just checks the version
[07:16] <nandhu> can any one tell me the link where i can check more details about how the instllation on ubuntu really works
[07:16] <nandhu> not the instllation steps
[07:17] <nandhu> i want to know how the ubuntu detect the hardware and creates initramfs  and kernel for that
[07:17] <nandhu> because i see that the live os kernel and initramfs diffres from the installed one
[07:17] <v0latil3_> its probably open source
[07:18] <v0latil3_> the kernel and initramfs probably dont contain anything pertaining to the install program that it runs
[07:19] <stevildead> v0latil3_: grub-install (GNU GRUB 0.97)
[07:19] <v0latil3_> ohh
[07:19] <v0latil3_> SonikkuAmerica, he has to have grub2 to boot iso right?
[07:19] <SonikkuAmerica> v0latil3_: Correct
[07:20] <stevildead> v0latil3_: can i get grub2 on here?
[07:20] <v0latil3_> so cant he just install grub-pc?
[07:20] <v0latil3_> SonikkuAmerica
[07:20] <SonikkuAmerica> Hm?
[07:20] <v0latil3_> what i said above calling u
[07:21] <v0latil3_> install grub-pc so he can boot an iso?
[07:21] <SonikkuAmerica> Well this is 8.04 LTS we're talking, right? You'll need at least 12.04 LTS for a supported version of GRUB 2
[07:21] <v0latil3_> oh
[07:22] <v0latil3_> could we see what happens if he tries to install?
[07:22] <stevildead> SonikkuAmerica: yes
[07:22] <SonikkuAmerica> Install what where?
[07:22] <v0latil3_> SonikkuAmerica, do you have any usb drive at all? even a small one?
[07:22] <v0latil3_> SonikkuAmerica, grub2 to his 8.04 box
[07:22] <ObrienDave> or a CD for the mini ISO?
[07:23] <stevildead> SonikkuAmerica: i also cant update anything on here
[07:23] <v0latil3_> SonikkuAmerica, not your for the usb drive sorry
[07:23] <nandhu> volatil3 so you mean that during the instllation process it only creates the user accounts sets the language locale and then just extract the squashfs ?
[07:23] <v0latil3_> stevildead, do you have even a rreally small usb drive?
[07:23] <stevildead> SonikkuAmerica: ie update manager
[07:23] <SonikkuAmerica> stevildead: Right. I'd suggest a manual upgrade to at least 12.04 LTS using a Live image...
[07:23] <ObrienDave> no cd/dvd drive
[07:24] <v0latil3_> nandhu, no. i mean you should look at the source for the program that runs when you boot into the live usb desktop
[07:24] <stevildead> v0latil3_: yes like a 1g
[07:24] <v0latil3_> ok
[07:24] <v0latil3_> thats fine
[07:24] <v0latil3_> what format is it?
[07:24] <v0latil3_> fat32 probably right?
[07:24] <stevildead> v0latil3_: the usb?
[07:24] <v0latil3_> yes
[07:25] <nandhu> volatile3 you have any link whic explains more about it ? like what are the source programs that are beeing exectued
[07:25] <v0latil3_> do you have another pc with a later linux os on it?
[07:25] <stevildead> v0latil3_: ill have to look
[07:25] <SonikkuAmerica> stevildead: Get a 12.04 LTS ISO image and use the Startup Disk Creator if you can...
[07:25] <v0latil3_> nandhu, honestly i have no idea. i dont know much about that
[07:25] <nandhu> ok thanks volatile let me check
[07:25] <nandhu> if any others know pleas help me
[07:26] <ObrienDave> stevildead, 32 or 64 bit?
[07:26] <stevildead> v0latil3_: FAT16
[07:26] <v0latil3_> stevildead, okay. do you have any other computers?
[07:26] <stevildead> v0latil3_: dont matter to me i just want to play skyrim lol
[07:27] <stevildead> v0latil3_: yeah a mac book at my side
[07:28] <stevildead> SonikkuAmerica: startup disk creator? i have ubuntu 12 iso on a hard drive
[07:29] <v0latil3_> stevildead, go onto your macbook
[07:29] <stevildead> SonikkuAmerica: i have no cd drive on the laptop thats being updated
[07:29] <v0latil3_> open a terminal and try the command grub-install
[07:29] <v0latil3_> is that a program thats installed?
[07:30] <stevildead> v0latil3_: ok did that in the terminal
[07:30] <ObrienDave> stevildead, you can't install from ISO to the same HD
[07:30] <v0latil3_> what does it say
[07:30] <v0latil3_> ObrienDave, yes you can
[07:30] <v0latil3_> if we can get him grub2
[07:31] <v0latil3_> it can boot an iso file
[07:31] <stevildead> v0latil3_: install grub on ur drive then help options
[07:31] <ObrienDave> that's good to know
[07:31] <v0latil3_> he has a usb drive i am trying to think of a way to get grub on it
[07:31] <aeaglez> Cam someone help me with my partitions?
[07:31] <v0latil3_> stevildead, does that command work on the macbook?
[07:32] <stevildead> v0latil3_e: i also have a terabyte hard drive with the ubuntu 12 iso on it
[07:32] <ObrienDave> aeaglez, what do you need to know?
[07:32] <stevildead> v0latil3_: ill c
[07:32] <v0latil3_> wait the ubuntu image is only 700MB
[07:32] <v0latil3_> whats the problem?
[07:32] <aeaglez> I am running out of space on my ubuntu partition, i kind of messed up when i first made my partitions
[07:33] <v0latil3_> aegis, what is the current setup
[07:33] <v0latil3_> (partiotions and size)
[07:33] <stevildead> v0latil3_: no does not wrk on mac
[07:34] <aeaglez> just my linux-swap is 10gb, and my dedicated harddrive for linux is 27gb
[07:34] <v0latil3_> is the 27GB first? also what filesystem?
[07:35] <aeaglez> the 27gb is not first, the ntfs is the very first
[07:35] <v0latil3_> do you want to make swap smaller and the linux partition bigger?
[07:35] <aeaglez> i need a bigger partition for linux
[07:35] <aeaglez> the filesystem is ext4
[07:36] <v0latil3_> what partition do you plan to make smaller
[07:36] <ObrienDave> how many ntfs partitions?
[07:36] <aeaglez> the windows partition i plan to make smaller
[07:36] <v0latil3_> i would go in windows computer management > disk management, then resize it how you want
[07:36] <aeaglez> 2 ntfs partitions, one is the windows one(634gb) and the other im not sure of but its 400mb
[07:36] <v0latil3_> it will create an unallocated blank of space on your hard drive
[07:37] <v0latil3_> dont touch the 400MB one that would mess stuff up
[07:37] <v0latil3_> go in windows and shrink the 634 GB one
[07:37] <ObrienDave> the 400mb is the windows boot or recovery partition. leave that one alone
[07:37] <aeaglez> i can do that, but the problem is that the linux one is locked
[07:38] <v0latil3_> What do you mean it is locked?
[07:38] <aeaglez> the /dev/sda7 is locked and it keeps giving an error message when i try to unmount it
[07:38] <hikenboot> sorry any of you guys know what "couldn't find needed C header for back end" means?
[07:38] <aeaglez> it has a key next to it
[07:38] <v0latil3_> oh
[07:38] <aeaglez> it says it cant unmount because its holding another mount on it or something like that
[07:38] <v0latil3_> aeaglez, you have to do this from a live usb or something. you cant change the partition of the os you are using to change
[07:38] <v0latil3_> do you have an ubuntu live usb?
[07:39] <aeaglez> no i have it on a live cd though
[07:39] <v0latil3_> ok thats fine
[07:39] <kryto> delete windoes throw it away, start over
[07:39] <v0latil3_> boot into that, and then you can change the partition that is locked
[07:39] <aeaglez> will it delete all the work i have on ubuntu?
[07:39] <v0latil3_> it shouldnt
[07:40] <v0latil3_> gparted would warn you if it would
[07:40] <stevildead> v0latil3_: it says the usb disk is 1g, but only 20mg available, and nothings on it??
[07:40] <aeaglez> and should i make the windows partition smaller right now?
[07:40] <v0latil3_> stevildead, reformat the usb disk
[07:40] <v0latil3_> aeaglez, yes
[07:40] <stevildead> v0latil3_: not sure how
[07:40] <ChronicLlama> stevildead, check if theres any partitions you dont know about
[07:40] <v0latil3_> do it from windows though, as to not confuse it
[07:40] <v0latil3_> stevildead, put it in the computer
[07:40] <v0latil3_> and open the program gparted
[07:41] <stevildead> v0latil3_: its in
[07:41] <stevildead> v0latil3_: on the mac book
[07:41] <v0latil3_> ok
[07:41] <aeaglez> ok perfect and one more thing,do i put in the CD i first installed ubuntu with to edit the partition?
[07:41] <stevildead> v0latil3_: im in the get info section
[07:41] <bacho> ukraine
[07:41] <stevildead> v0latil3_: and the folder is open
[07:41] <v0latil3_> aeaglez, yes
[07:42] <v0latil3_> stevildead, does your macbook have a program for changing partitions?
[07:42] <v0latil3_> some type of disk manager?
[07:42] <aeaglez> alright and how big should the linux-swap partition be? i have it at 10gb so i know i did that wrong
[07:42] <stevildead> v0latil3_: ummm not sure, it isnt mine
[07:42] <v0latil3_> aeaglez, how much ram do you have?
[07:42] <aeaglez> 8gb
[07:43] <v0latil3_> you want at least 8 if you want to be able to hibernate
[07:43] <v0latil3_> i think 10 is fine if you use hibernation
[07:43] <aeaglez> alright so ill jsut leave it as that
[07:43] <v0latil3_> okay
[07:43] <aeaglez> alright man, thanks ill let you know if it worked
[07:44] <v0latil3_> stevildead, open disk utility program
[07:44] <themexbob> hello need help find script / command running during system startup.  When I run "top", I see command executed by root and process id but cannot find path for script.
[07:45] <stevildead> v0latil3_: ok
[07:46] <v0latil3_> is there a place to use the usb disk?
[07:46] <stevildead> v0latil3_: im erasing it
[07:46] <v0latil3_> okay. just make sure dont erase the hard drive :)
[07:46] <stevildead> v0latil3_: lol
[07:47]  * cfhowlett thinks it's always funny - until someone actually DOES wipe the HDD ...
[07:48] <v0latil3_> "disk destroyer"
[07:48] <v0latil3_> aka dd
[07:50] <v0latil3_> stevildead, is it done now?
[07:51] <stevildead> v0latil3_: yes, i am transferring the iso to it now
[07:52] <SonikkuAmerica> v0latil3_: lol disk destroyer
[07:52] <stevildead> v0latil3_: its done
[07:53] <v0latil3_> oh
[07:53] <v0latil3_> did you just copy the iso to it or did you actually write the image onto the disk?
[07:53] <stevildead> v0latil3_: written
[07:53] <v0latil3_> ok
[07:53] <stevildead> v0latil3_: it took a mim
[07:53] <stevildead> min
[07:53] <v0latil3_> now put it into the other computer and boot it
[07:54] <helmut_> hi
[07:55] <v0latil3_> stevildead, its probabl a key like ESC, f2, f7, or something like that
[07:55] <stevildead> v0latil3_: so restart then f12 n boot from disk
[07:55] <stevildead> v0latil3_: or whatever
[07:56] <stevildead> v0latil3_: i really appreciate the help
[07:56] <v0latil3_> yes
[07:56] <v0latil3_> are you on the pc you are updating right now for irc?
[07:56] <stevildead> v0latil3_: yes
[07:56] <guyuehuanyu> ?
[07:56] <v0latil3_> okay.
[07:56] <v0latil3_> so when you boot it
[07:57] <v0latil3_> it should ask some options
[07:57] <stevildead> v0latil3_: like run live or install
[07:57] <guyuehuanyu> ?
[07:57] <v0latil3_> 1. replace current install 2. upgrade current install 3. dual boot both 4. something else
[07:57] <v0latil3_> or at least something similar to that
[07:57] <v0latil3_> if it is possible do the upgrade one i think
[07:58] <stevildead> v0latil3_: ok i was gunna ask which one to pick
[07:58] <v0latil3_> you can do install or live. if you do live it brings you to the desktop, where you can pick the install option from there too. just to install when it boots
[07:58] <stevildead> v0latil3_: ok ill be back on afterwords so hopefully all goes well
[07:59] <v0latil3_> ok
[07:59] <stevildead> v0latil3_: thanks again
[07:59] <v0latil3_> yep
[08:01] <ainx> hello need help please
[08:01] <v0latil3_> HI
[08:01] <v0latil3_> ask question
[08:02] <ainx> i'm using raring 13.04 nd use xfce4 desktop and i don't know why my xfce panel can't show but i already running
[08:02] <ainx> its*
[08:03] <v0latil3_> hmm i have never used xfce and dont know much about it i cant help you on that one.
[08:03] <themexbob> hello need help find script / command running during system startup.  When I run "top", I see command executed by root and process id but cannot find path for script.  Does anyone know a command I can use to find script location or file launching script?
[08:03] <cfhowlett> ainx, check the settings to see if it's auto-hiding
[08:03] <ainx> <v0latil3_> : what is your desktop ?
[08:03] <v0latil3_> unity or whatever the default is
[08:03] <ainx> no, it's not auto hidding
[08:03] <Beldar> !tab | ainx
 what's that mean ?
[08:05] <ainx> !tab
[08:05] <v0latil3_> ainx, try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/224006/resetting-xfce-panels-to-default-settings
[08:05] <Beldar> ainx, """You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC,""" ainx is you nick
[08:06] <ainx> v0latil3_: ok i'll try
[08:06] <v0latil3_> ainx, what they mean is like this: type "v0" then if you press tab key, it will complete my name so you dont have to type the whole thing
[08:06] <ainx> thanks everybody
[08:07] <wheatthin> I love an appreciative community :)
[08:07] <tvin> Does all of Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250  features work on Ubuntu?
[08:08] <wheatthin> tvin, wintv, I dunno
[08:08] <v0latil3_> lol
[08:10] <wheatthin> if it's supported at all, I'm sure it's not "All" supported
[08:10] <ainx> v0
[08:10] <ainx> ?
[08:10] <wheatthin> v0 and then hit tab key on the left
[08:10] <v0latil3_> press tab after youtype that
[08:10] <ainx>  i dont care about that, but thanks to help :D
[08:10] <hikenboot> what version of ubuntu was stable in 2003
[08:11] <wheatthin> ainx, well it helps, especially when typing in directory paths in the terminal
[08:11] <tvin> On this page, does IR mean remote?
[08:11] <tvin> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Digital_Tuner_Cards
[08:11] <wheatthin> tvin, it means infrared, and yes
[08:11] <hikenboot> I have a program from 2003 I am trying to run and its missing an obsolete library
[08:12] <tvin> wheatthin so is it saying that the remote of that tuner card won't work on ubuntu?
[08:12] <wheatthin> hikenboot, ehh, depending on what it is, we usually don't support not ubuntu software
[08:12] <hikenboot> my question is a ubuntu question how do i find out what was ubuntu stable in 2003
[08:13] <ikonia> hikenboot: it will be ubuntu x.03
[08:13] <cfhowlett> hikenboot, 2003?  nada ...
[08:13] <ikonia> hikenboot: but of course the release will be long long dead
[08:13] <ikonia> wasn't 04 the first release ?
[08:13] <Beldar> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[08:13] <wheatthin> yeah that would be the clue I got, but it depends when this was published
[08:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Mhm. 4.10
[08:13] <ObrienDave> hikenboot, Ubuntu was not released until October 2004, so the answer is NONE
[08:13] <cfhowlett> 4.10 and hardly "stable"
[08:14] <tvin> Would someone please help me figure this out
[08:14] <wheatthin> You'd probably want to go to ##hardware
[08:14] <ikonia> tvin: figure what out ?
[08:14] <hikenboot>  thanks then i have to find a debian release from 2003
[08:15] <ikonia> hikenboot: I'd advise against that, it's better to try to resolve the problem, instead of installing a dead OS
[08:15] <wheatthin> yeah, dead os's == even less support
[08:16] <tvin> ikonia: If all of Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250's features will work on ubuntu
[08:16] <ikonia> tvin it will depend on if that card is supported and the software you use with it
[08:16] <hikenboot> its a small program that needs a library it has to run once for me and only once
[08:17] <wheatthin> ikonia, that site is showing that the IR isn't supported.. otherwise it's working
[08:17] <ikonia> hikenboot: you're not going to get help being as cryptic as that, so do what you want
[08:17] <ikonia> wheatthin: what site ?
[08:17] <wheatthin> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Digital_Tuner_Cards
[08:17] <gogomall> uuuu
[08:17] <ikonia> tvin: there you go, see the url wheatthin posted
[08:17] <gogomall> iiii
[08:18] <tvin> wheatthin: Why didn't you say that earlier when i asked you that?
[08:18] <wheatthin> gogomall, please ask something instead of just typing stuff..
[08:18] <wheatthin> I did, you just didn't listen.
[08:18] <tvin> You didn't say my name when you did it for sure anyway
[08:20] <tvin> ikonia: Well other stuff suggests it might work, this information might be dated, but the pages on this subject are messy and technical. I take it you don't know much about this yourself?
[08:20] <tvin> and it wasn't wheatthins link, it was mine
[08:20]  * cfhowlett doesn't have cable cuz IRC is WAY more entertaining.  :)
[08:20] <ikonia> tvin: actually I used multiple hapuage cards for years with mythtv without any problems
[08:20] <wheatthin> tvin, it's easier to try the installation process and getting feedback, than speculation..
[08:20] <tvin> ikonia: Remote works too?
[08:21] <tvin> wheatthin: Not if you haven't bought the card. i want to know if it will work before buying it
[08:21] <ikonia> tvin: it did with liirc, but I never set it up as I wrong a phone app for it
[08:21] <tvin> ikonia: What is liirc and I don't understand "I wrong app for it"
[08:22] <ikonia> oops, "wrote"
[08:22] <tvin> ikonia: What is liirc?
[08:23] <ikonia> tvin: program for managing irda / remote controls
[08:23] <Weibolon> ,.-
[08:23] <Weibolon> hai
[08:24] <tvin> ikonia: So it worked with mythtv, but does that mean it will work with ubuntu as well?
[08:25] <wheatthin> tvin, not all features, but the main device would definitely.. features depend on the software written for it.
[08:26] <Weibolon> g
[08:26] <Weibolon> halle N2
[08:27] <tvin> wheatthin: Obviously the necessary software is included in the question. So what features would not work with ubuntu ?
[08:27] <Weibolon> arch
[08:28] <wheatthin> omg dude.. go to hardware.
[08:28] <tvin> who are you talking to?
[08:28] <Weibolon> jesus
[08:29] <wheatthin> they'll know more your specific hardware, and what's supported under Any linux.
[08:29] <new-user> hi all
[08:29] <new-user> any nude here... lol
[08:29] <cfhowlett> new-user, ha ... no.  wrong channel.
[08:29] <wheatthin> new-user, don't be a troll this is support channel
[08:29] <new-user> hahaha.... just kidding... lol
[08:30] <cfhowlett> new-user, strangely unfunny.  do you have an actual ubuntu support question?
[08:31] <tvin> ikonia: So would it work with ubuntu, if you got it working with myth TV?
[08:31] <new-user> cfhowlett , sorry... no question, i'm just try with chat... thank's before :)
[08:34] <ikonia> tvin: it depends, as I've not used them for about 2 years, so the kernel (which gives it support) will have been updated, mythtv is an application suite, not an OS
[08:35] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[08:35] <new-user> wow so many people here
[08:35] <eg0x> :D
[08:36] <tvin> ikonia: So it sits on top of ubuntu? Like a media player?
[08:37] <SonikkuAmerica> tvin: Yeah... kind of like that.
[08:38] <new-user> saucy salamander :)
[08:39] <eagles0513875> hey Beldar :( got some bad news
[08:39] <tvin> ikonia: You think kernal updates might break compatibility?
[08:40] <new-user> hi bot
[08:41] <tvin> How often does kernal updates break compatibility
[08:41] <tvin> ?
[08:42] <Ben64> almost never?
[08:42] <new-user> yup
[08:43] <aeaglez> its not letting me partition
[08:44] <new-user> what you install
[08:44] <Ben64> aeaglez: gonna need all the details in order to help
[08:44] <aeaglez> i booted a live cd
[08:44] <aeaglez> ok im trying to partition my drive
[08:44] <aeaglez> and i booted from a live cd like you guys told me
[08:45] <Ben64> try typing the story out all on one line, it makes it much easier to read
[08:45] <tvin> So what features of Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250 are known to work from experience on ubuntu?
[08:46] <aeaglez> and now i have 500gb of free space that isnt letting me partition when im at the installation page, i try to add more gb on the linux boot, but it jsut gives me a option to take of gb, not to add. What could be the problem here?
[08:46] <Ben64> tvin: you'd probably get a better result from google and/or askubuntu than here.... the chances someone else here has that exact card is fairly low
[08:46] <Jordan_U> aeaglez: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[08:46] <ObrienDave> aeaglez, reboot into live mode, we'll install later
[08:47] <aeaglez> you want me to reboot into live mode?
[08:47] <aeaglez> and Jordan_U its giving me a error
[08:47] <tvin> Ben64: On freenode /join #askubuntu?
[08:48] <Jordan_U> aeaglez: Please pastebin the complete output of the command.
[08:48] <Ben64> tvin: http://askubuntu.com/
[08:48] <Ben64> tvin: or describe your problem here in a way that doesn't require us to have your tv card
[08:48] <aeaglez> parted: invalid option -- '1'
[08:48] <aeaglez> Usage: parted [-hlmsv] [-a<align>] [DEVICE [COMMAND [PARAMETERS]]...]
[08:48] <new-user> http://askubuntu.com/ not http://askme.com/
[08:48] <new-user> lol
[08:49] <Ben64> new-user: what?
[08:49] <new-user> just kidding bro :)
[08:49] <Ben64> aeaglez: its a lower case L, not a 1
[08:49] <Ben64> new-user: please don't
[08:49] <new-user> sorry....
[08:49] <aeaglez> Model: ATA Hitachi HTS54757 (scsi)
[08:49] <aeaglez> Disk /dev/sda: 750GB
[08:49] <aeaglez> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B
[08:49] <aeaglez> Partition Table: gpt
[08:49] <aeaglez> Number  Start   End    Size    File system     Name                          Flags
[08:49] <aeaglez>  1      1049kB  420MB  419MB   ntfs            Basic data partition          hidden, diag
[08:49] <FloodBot1> aeaglez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:49] <ObrienDave> aeaglez, copy and paste into terminal: sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[08:50] <ObrienDave> give us the URL
[08:50] <aeaglez> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6528801/
[08:50] <tvin> Ben64:  I don't understand this much at all "describe your problem here in a way that doesn't require us to have your tv card"
[08:50] <sdfsdfsdfsg432s> hi, i am trying to partition my second hard drive for data storage (for system i use ssd), and in disk tool included with ubuntu i get "partition is misaligned by 512 bytes", so what im doing wrong, or what could i do
[08:51] <sdfsdfsdfsg432s> i already googled, and found only that it is maybe caused by western digital advanced thing, but im using a seagate here.
[08:51] <Ben64> tvin: what problem are you having
[08:51] <tvin> Ben64: And actually the chance that someone has this exact card is extremely high, since the pickings of the tuner card market are very slim
[08:52] <aeaglez> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6528801/
[08:52] <Beldar> eagles0513875, what is it?
[08:52] <eagles0513875> Beldar: drive is failing :(
[08:52] <eagles0513875> the testdisk log is showing IO errors :(
[08:52] <Beldar> eagles0513875, ah, bummer.
[08:52] <eagles0513875> Beldar: if i reformat the drive is there a way i can recover the data on it first
[08:52] <eagles0513875> or is all the data lost
[08:52] <tvin> Ben64: What features will work with the Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250 card on ubuntu. Please keep in mind I do not own the card, I am asking to decide if I should buy it
[08:52] <Jordan_U> sdfsdfsdfsg432s: http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/advice.html is a good explanation of what alignment means, and why being misaligned by 512 bytes will give you terrible performance on newer drives.
[08:53] <sdfsdfsdfsg432s> thanks, will check it out if i could find help to solve it
[08:53] <eagles0513875> Beldar: what sucks is this is the second disk in less then 2 weeks to head south
[08:53] <aeaglez> jordan did you see the paste?
[08:53] <sdfsdfsdfsg432s> and i have formatted it to MBR partitioning btw
[08:53] <Beldar> eagles0513875, I don't exactly remember your situation, I'm not really an expert in that area.
[08:53] <jordan> aeaglez: no
[08:54] <eagles0513875> im the guy that was having issues with dolphin picking up my external hard disk and all utilities showing that it was notn partitioned no file system etc
[08:54] <eagles0513875> you told me and suggested i run testdisk
[08:54] <Jordan_U> aeaglez: If you don't use my full nick in your messages then I will likely miss them.
[08:54] <Ben64> tvin: yeah, that is really a better question for google and/or askubuntu. despite what you think, the chances are still very low anyone here has personal experience with that card
[08:55] <aeaglez> ok im sorry, its just that i dont know how to make your name red like you make mine
[08:55] <Beldar> eagles0513875, WD drive?
[08:55] <sdfsdfsdfsg432s> i checked it quite fast but could not find how to solve this problem, i know that it does give a bad performance, but how to solve it? i probably should read it more carefully, but still..
[08:55] <junktext> Or that person may be asleep at the moment. @ tvin
[08:55] <eagles0513875> Beldar: ya WD my passport ultra
[08:55] <aeaglez> But Jordan_U, do you want me to write the paste again?
[08:55] <eagles0513875> its still under the guarantee
[08:56] <Jordan_U> sdfsdfsdfsg432s: You can use gparted properly align the partition, though it will take a long time.
[08:56] <ObrienDave> aeaglez, type a few characters of the nickname then hit TAB to auto-complete
[08:56] <Jordan_U> aeaglez: Just include my nick in your message.
[08:56] <sdfsdfsdfsg432s> does it take a long time if i just delete partition and make a new one, or does this cause again "misaligned"
[08:56] <ObrienDave> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6528801/
[08:56] <aeaglez> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6528801/
[08:56] <sdfsdfsdfsg432s> this drive does not have data at this time
[08:56] <ObrienDave> lol
[08:57] <aeaglez> lol my bad
[08:57] <Jordan_U> sdfsdfsdfsg432s: If you don't have anything important on the partition then just deleting and re-creating in GParted is fast and ideal. GParted automatically uses proper allignment.
[08:57] <sdfsdfsdfsg432s> ah okay, i download gparted then from the software center, thanks. and i do not have anything important on that since it's empty and im trying to get it to use the correct way
[08:58] <Jordan_U> aeaglez: Please post a screenshot of the point in the Ubuntu installer where you're not able to resize any further.
[08:58] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | aeaglez
[08:59] <sdfsdfsdfsg432s> Jordan_U: thanks a lot! gparted did it and disk tool now doesnt complain about it anymore
[09:00] <Jordan_U> sdfsdfsdfsg432s: You're welcome.
[09:00] <aeaglez> Jordan_U, how is that going to work?When im in the installer i doesnt let me save photos i take with prt screen
[09:00] <wheatthin> aeaglez, yes, it's copied in clipboard
[09:00] <cfhowlett> aeaglez, boot "try ubuntu"  then launch the installer.  you can screenshot away
[09:01] <aeaglez> ok ill try it
[09:01] <Semor> Does ftime() generate one interrupt ?
[09:03] <tvin> Does myth TV work for recording input from a HDMI port of a video card?
[09:12] <Lope> I had spice-vdagent running as root. I've stopped the service. now I want to start it as user. how can I do that?
[09:13] <ssdfssdfgdfg4354> Jordan_U i faced a little problem with the partition i made with gparted, it seems i only have read access to it, i cannot make new folders to it etc..
[09:13] <Ben64> ssdfssdfgdfg4354: what filesystem?
[09:13] <hays> upgraded to 13.10 and am having errors.  getting a message that says there is an internal error
[09:13] <ssdfssdfgdfg4354> Ben64: ext4
[09:13] <hays> Xorg crashed with SIGABRT in OsAbort()
[09:13] <Ben64> ssdfssdfgdfg4354: because you don't have permission. you need to use root or give your user permission
[09:14] <ssdfssdfgdfg4354> how i can do that, run file manager as root and change permissions of that or?
[09:14] <Ben64> easier to use command line, imo
[09:14] <hays> any ideas what this is or how to fix?
[09:15] <ssdfssdfgdfg4354> what's the right command since i only know "apt-get" commands, if any information needed just ask
[09:15] <hays> I had some problems upgrading.. the process didn't complete and I had to run dpkg-configure -a manually from a console
[09:15] <Lope> thanks sorted!!
[09:15] <Ben64> ssdfssdfgdfg4354: sudo chown your_username /path/to/mounted/partition
[09:16] <ssdfssdfgdfg4354> so, should it for me be "sudo chown a123 /media/1TB"
[09:16] <Ben64> looks good
[09:16] <ssdfssdfgdfg4354> alright i do it then
[09:16] <Ben64> then you should be able to create files/folders/whatever
[09:17] <ssdfssdfgdfg4354> still i cannot after doing that, should i then replace /media/1TB with /dev/sdb or?
[09:18] <ssdfssdfgdfg4354> oops no problem anymore, i just remounted it and it now works
[09:18] <ssdfssdfgdfg4354> so another problem solved today, thanks!
[09:19] <Venko> Hey all, yesterday I asked about pointing my @ DNS entry for my domain to my droplet's IP address. I did that and it works but someone mentioned something about reverse DNS yesterday. What do I have to do re that?
[09:19] <Ben64> Venko: sounds like a question for ##networking
[09:19] <Venko> Ben64: Alright I'll ask there. Thanks :)
[09:20] <ssdfssdfgdfg4354> thanks again finally i get my hdd to use, thanks!
[09:24] <hays> I can't seem to find xorg.conf.. does it not exist anymore?
[09:24] <hays> trying to figure out what video driver im using
[09:25] <gordonjcp> hays: no, it doesn't
[09:25] <gordonjcp> hays: you can add one if you feel you need it
[09:26] <gordonjcp> hays: typically you'd do this if you have deeply weirdass hardware that needs incredibly specific settings
[09:26] <hays> well im getting an error that seems to have been around for 2 years with no path to resolution, so im trying to troubleshoot
[09:26] <gordonjcp> hays: what may be more helpful is either /var/log/Xorg.0.log or the output of lspci
[09:26] <gordonjcp> hays: an error, y'say?
[09:28] <hays> yep ubuntu internal error SIGABORT from xorg
[09:29] <hays> hmm i think im using the intel driver, which makes sense
[09:34] <ola2> im not able to copy file from pendrive to ubuntu
[09:34] <ola2> error while splicing file
[09:36] <Lunar_Lamp> \/win 30
[09:38] <ucenik> hi. i have file 11111.pdf.sng file. how can i open it in ubuntu?
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> ucenik: what sort of file is it?
[09:39] <ucenik> 1160329987-20130731_HR_MER.pdf.sgn
[09:39] <aeaglez> ok im back
[09:39] <ucenik> closest i found is some sierra print artist
[09:39] <ucenik> type of file
[09:39] <aeaglez> Jordan_U, i have the picture, where do i post it?
[09:39] <ucenik> tinypic aeaglez
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> ucenik: naming files doesnt tell us what it is
[09:40] <DJones> !imagebin | aeaglez
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> ucenik: you can use the 'file' command in terminal and it will tell you what it is
[09:40] <ucenik> it was sent to me by friend who didnt know how to open it, ActionParsnip
[09:40] <aeaglez> imagebin or tinypic which one?
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> ucenik: file extensions don't mean much in Linux
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> ucenik: use the 'file' command in terminal, it will tell you
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> ucenik: eg:     file 1160329987-20130731_HR_MER.pdf.sgn
[09:41] <ucenik> will try
[09:41] <schultza> I cant seem to update from 13.04 to 13.10. Keeps giving the following message: Could not calculate the upgrade. An unresolvable problem occured while calculating the upgrade. This can be caused by: * Upgradeing to a pre-release version of Ubuntu (no). * Running the current pre-prelease version of Ubuntu (no). * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu. I thought I cleared thesews out. D
[09:41] <schultza> Do I need to rename some of my ppa files?
[09:42] <SonikkuAmerica> schultza: Probably not; let's examine your configuration.
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> schultza: yes, disabling PPAs if you are getting the next release is agood move
[09:43] <aeaglez> how am i supposed to post the picture up now, its on my clipboard
[09:43] <schultza> I thought it auto-disabled all ppas.
[09:43] <SonikkuAmerica> schultza: Well yeah, ActionParsnip is right, but you don't have to *rename* them.
[09:43] <aeaglez> i doubt its still on it but according  to the people of ubuntu its still on it
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> aeaglez: imageshack, tinypic etc......
[09:44] <ucenik> ActionParsnip, its xml file but i tried to open it before with firefox, it gave me just random letters and
[09:44] <ucenik>         This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below.
[09:44] <SonikkuAmerica> schultza: Go ahead and disable the PPAs, then try the release upgrade again.
[09:44] <schultza> Is there a fast and easy way to disable the PPAs?
[09:45] <aeaglez> ActionParsnip, I am on them but how am i supposed to paste it? Its not letting me paste it just like that, its telling me to upload it
[09:45] <SonikkuAmerica> schultza: Sure! Look up "Software and Updates" in the dash! Click on the second tab and uncheck all the boxes!
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> aeaglez: make a file of the paste, then upload
[09:47] <schultza> Retrying. Thanks if this works.
[09:47] <schultza> Is there a so-called semi-rolling release out yet?
[09:48] <aeaglez> ActionParsnip,  Do you know what they were telling me to do? They said go to the install screen where you repartition your drive and prt scrn, im just failing to see how the image is still going to be on the clipboard after the screen goes black for about 20 seconds
[09:48] <SonikkuAmerica> schultza: That idea was abandoned in favor of 9-month support schedules for non-LTS releases.
[09:48] <schultza> Wow. I'd much prefer the rolling release style.
[09:48] <schultza> Same issue. Problem with the upgrade.
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> schultza: then use a rolling release distro, like ebian
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> schultza: or, stick to LTS for 5 years support
[09:49] <ucenik> so, anyone has idea how to open xml file that is not meant for firefox
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> ucenik: use gedit.....
[09:50] <SonikkuAmerica> schultza: Well then, let's check. Update the APT system, then run [ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f ] to make sure all the 13.04 packages are in their most recent versions.
[09:50] <ucenik> ActionParsnip, same as firefox. i think its encrypted. but i would expect file would give that info
[09:50] <schultza> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f
[09:51] <aeaglez> ActionParsnip,  could you have an idea why its not letting me partition my drive? Because im really tired at this point ive been trying for the past 2 hours and everyone keeps toying with me
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> ucenik: could be corrupt
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> aeaglez: is the drive healthy?
[09:51] <aeaglez> ActionParsnip,  what do you mean ?
[09:51] <SonikkuAmerica> schultza: ... in a terminal :)
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> aeaglez: as in mechanically ok? Are there partitions on it presently?
[09:53] <schultza> It says: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:53] <aeaglez> ActionParsnip,  the driver is perfect all the partitions are there, but i have about 400gb free space and when i want to add it  onto  my ubuntu parition it doesnt give me a option to add space, only to remove
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> aeaglez: are any of the partitions mounted right now?
[09:54] <SonikkuAmerica> schultza: How are you performing release upgrades, via the terminal or using the Update Manager?
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> schultza: try:  sudo do-release-upgrade
[09:54] <schultza> terminal's do-release-upgrade
[09:54] <schultza> yes with ... oh jeez
[09:54] <aeaglez> ActionParsnip,  only the ubuntu drive, but thats why i am trying to do this through live CD because Gparted doesnt let me unmount it
[09:55] <SonikkuAmerica> schultza: Yeah, when all else fails, sudo.
[09:55] <schultza> smacks self
[09:55] <schultza> how did i forget sudo
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> aeaglez: have you fsck'd the partition so you know it is healthy?
[09:55] <aeaglez> ActionParsnip, i dont know what that is
[09:56] <asad2005> My PC have Radeon HD 5670/5690/5730 PCI-E as well as the MB built in Intel® HD Graphics How can i activate similtanously use the bulit in to a second monitor
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> aeaglez: its like scandisk in Windows
[09:56] <schultza> even with sudo, it errors with the same error.
[09:57] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: SCANDISK :\ That hasn't been used in a new release of Windows since 1997
[09:57] <aeaglez> ActionParsnip,  the partition is healthy i know that for sure, i would know if the drive is bad
[09:58] <SonikkuAmerica> schultza: Run [ lsb_release -a ]
[09:59] <schultza> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6528983/
[10:00] <aeaglez> ActionParsnip, so im guessing you cant help me either on this?
[10:01] <SonikkuAmerica> schultza: Hmmm... no problem there. Try this: [ grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log ]
[10:02] <aeaglez>  /quit
[10:02] <schultza> hmm... <http://paste.ubuntu.com/6528989/>
[10:04] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: Can you have a look at schultza 's pastebin? I think I found what's causing the release upgrade mess... all 83 of it...
[10:06] <schultza> Be back. Please pm any responses so I can keep up with the conversation when I get back.
[10:08]  * Rory uses the fantastic weechat script "highmon.pl" to put all his highlights in their own buffer, thus avoiding the above problem
[10:09] <schultza> Rory: I dont have weechat installed.
[10:09] <schultza> Btw, I'm back.
[10:09] <_root_> hello
[10:10] <_root_> Why my nginx socket folder in /var/run is being deleted every time restart my server?
[10:10] <Jordan_U> schultza: In almost any client, "/lastlog schultza" will show all messages to or from you in the channel.
[10:11] <schultza> That didnt do much for me in KVirc 4.1.3
[10:11] <Guest58909> hello i need help with my usb wireless adapter named alfa AWUs036h my adpter its slow and sometimes connection is dropping
[10:13] <schultza> um.. is weechat based on quassel or vice-versa?
[10:16] <dave23> hello
[10:16] <dave23> i need help with my alfa awus036h adapter pliissss help me!!!!!!!!
[10:16] <thief_and_a_liar> lol
[10:17] <thief_and_a_liar> pls help
[10:17] <schultza> sudo apt-get install -f doesnt fix the issue either
[10:17] <Beldar> schultza, try sudo apt-get -f install
[10:18] <schultza> that didnt work either...
[10:18] <schultza> both of them
[10:19] <mephr> #R
[10:19] <ucenik> digitally signed pdf document  from the bank, how to open in ubuntu
[10:19] <Rory> !details | dave23
[10:19] <ucenik> ActionParsnip?
[10:20] <Rory> schultza: Neither, weechat and quassel are completely different clients
[10:20] <dave23> theres any bodythere how to fix slow connection and dropping connection of ALFA AWUS036H wireless adapter im using xubuntu  12.04 Lts
[10:20] <schultza> is that /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log completely remade or just updated like a log file?
[10:20] <schultza> Rory: Thanks. I did some research. It looks like I may like quassel better.
[10:20] <Rory> schultza: They server different needs
[10:21] <Rory> serve*
[10:21] <schultza> Rory: I jsut need an IRC (preferably gui based) client that allows me to chat into any window from the same input.
[10:21] <Rory> dave23: Can you please paste the output from the command "sudo lspci -v && sudo lsusb -v" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:22] <Rory> dave23: You can do this easily by "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" and then "sudo lspci -v && sudo lsusb -v | pastebinit"
[10:22] <schultza> be back
[10:24] <schultza> I'm back. Any fix for my broken packages possibly preventing me from upgrading my distro from 13.04 to 13.10?
[10:25] <Beldar> schultza, Any these broken attached to PPA's?
[10:25] <dave23> http://pastebin.com/Fn2x1Lxh
[10:25] <schultza> Beldar: I dont know. The video stuff, no.
[10:25] <schultza> teamviewer, yes.
[10:25] <dave23> thats the url
[10:25] <schultza> The rest, unsure.
[10:27] <Beldar> schultza, If ou have ppa's then that would be my suspicion, I have not seen all your posts though.
[10:27] <Beldar> you*
[10:27] <schultza> Beldar: Here is the list of my PPAs. <http://paste.ubuntu.com/6529087/>
[10:27] <cfhowlett> schultza, perhaps better to torrent 13.10 and clean install.
[10:27] <schultza> cfhowlett: Ouch. I really don't want to redo my install completely. I worked hard to get where I am now.
[10:28] <Beldar> schultza, Have you checked if any if thise have 13,10 packages>
[10:29] <Rory> dave23: Could you tell me the output of the command: uname -r
[10:29] <schultza> Beldar: According to another's instructions, I have disabled the PPAs in the Software&Updates section and attempted another "do-release-upgrade".
[10:30] <ola2> where does add-apt repository add in source
[10:30] <schultza> Beldar: I have not checked for 13.10 packages.
[10:30] <Rory> ola2: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/some_repository.list
[10:30] <Beldar> schultza, Do you have the update and upgrade in the OS with the errors?
[10:30] <ola2> ty
[10:30] <Rory> dave23: Could you also ensure you include my name in any messages intended for me, or I might miss them
[10:30] <dave23> rory,3.2.0-52-generic
[10:31] <schultza> Beldar: What do you mean? Do I have "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" errors? No. Completely clean exit on those.
[10:31] <ucenik> how to add certificate for documents  in viewing program so  that i can open digitally signed documents?
[10:32] <Beldar> schultza, So you get an error on the do-release?
[10:32] <dave23> Rory:3.2.0-52-generic
[10:32] <schultza> Beldar: Yes. Unresolved calculation errors.
[10:32] <Ven-2> Hello
[10:32] <Rory> dave23: Can you go to realtek's driver download page here [ http://goo.gl/EgjGKL ] and download the driver for RTL8187L marked: Linux driver for Kernel 3.0.0/3.1.0/3.2.0
[10:32] <Ven-2> what I can put my font into ubuntu repository?
[10:32] <Rory> dave23: Basically follow this answer from Askubuntu http://askubuntu.com/a/178017/62969
[10:32] <ucenik> i need to add crt file to pdf viewer so i could verify and open it. there is procedure for acrobat reader, but how can i do it in linux
[10:33] <evon> One of the reasons I move from windows to linux fulltime is to avoid viruses and spyware.  Recently however i've been getting banner ads popping up out of nowhere on websites I've been visiting.  These ads just get in the way so I know they are not from the sites I've been visiting.  My linkedin account has a banner ad just blocking my links right now and it's pissin me off.  Any idea what I can do to remedy the situati
[10:33] <evon> on?
[10:33] <ucenik> evon install adblockplus addon for firefox
[10:33] <schultza> Be back.
[10:34] <Rory> evon: What browser are you using? Does it occur in other browsers on the same system?
[10:34] <Rory> ucenik: That won't actually solve the root problem
[10:34] <Beldar> schultza, My guess is if you want the distro upgrade and the HD is not just to full you will have to ppa-purge some or all of them.
[10:34] <damir__> get adblock plus + ghostery and get ready for a drastically different web experience
[10:34] <evon> ucenik, Rory.  Using firefox and it doesn't happen in chrome
[10:35] <Rory> evon: Can you check your list of browser addons in Firefox?
[10:35] <Rory> evon: One of those is probably doing it
[10:35] <Rory> evon: If it isn't obvious which one it is, just disable them all, and re-enable them one by one, restarting Firefox in between each time, until the ads appear again
[10:36] <schultza> Beldar: Is there a fast way to do that?
[10:36] <evon> Rory Ok i'm going to do that now
[10:36] <Beldar> !ppa-purge | schultza there is only one way
[10:36] <ucenik> my first pick would be adblockplus :p but if you randomly install stuff in browser what Rory said is also good to do
[10:37] <ucenik> how can i add digital signature file to document viewer so i can open digitally signed documents?
[10:38] <Rory> ucenik: You need to import the .crt file to your Passwords and Encryption Keys
[10:38] <Rory> ucenik: Not in a specific PDF viewier.
[10:38] <ucenik> !
[10:39] <hisham> Hi how are you please how to install dev C++ in linux ?? :/
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> hisham: install build-essential
[10:39] <Ven-2> Anybody can help me publicate my font on Ubuntu repositories?
[10:39] <cfhowlett> ?publicate?
[10:40] <Rory> Ven-2: You can make a PPA
[10:40] <hisham> build-essential ??
[10:40] <cfhowlett> Ven-2, yep.  ppa is the way
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> hisham: yes
[10:40] <Rory> Ven-2: Look here https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[10:40] <Ven-2> cfhowlett, hete is my font
[10:40] <Ven-2> https://github.com/texrg/Labiryntowy
[10:40] <hisham> Ok thanks i see
[10:40] <Ven-2> Rory, ok, can You help me?
[10:40] <schultza> Beldar: Thank you.
[10:40] <Rory> Ven-2: I've never done it before, but the instructions are clear and detailed
[10:41] <_root_> Why my nginx socket folder in /var/run is being deleted every time restart my server?
[10:41] <Ven-2> PPA is not good idea, I would like to put it in normal repo
[10:41] <evon> Rory thanks you were right.  It was an ad on. VideoStream Helper
[10:41] <Rory> Ven-2: You can't just do that, or anybody could...
[10:42] <ucenik> its always lupus. i mean, its always human error
[10:42] <Rory> Ven-2: There's a process to get your package accepted into the repositores, I think you should join the channel #ubuntu-packaging
[10:42] <cfhowlett> !contribute|Ven-2, make the font, ppa, and ask for views.
[10:43] <Ven-2> ubottu, here is trouble. Where I can put my description, where font etc.
[10:44] <bimbi> test
[10:44] <ucenik> passwords and keys doesnt see certificate i want to add
[10:44] <ucenik> http://com.pbz.hr/download/PBZeUred.crt
[10:44] <ucenik> its bank certificate for pdf files
[10:45] <Rory> Ven-2: Did you read the packaging link I sent you earlier?
[10:45] <Rory> !packaging | Ven-2
[10:46] <dave23> Rory:what if i have internet connetion i will install it on kernel?
[10:46] <Ven-2> my english is not good
[10:47] <Ven-2> this is to complicate form e
[10:48] <Rory> Ven-2: It is a complicated process
[10:48] <Rory> Ven-2: Take a look here for some translations of "Introduction to Debian Packaging" http://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals#packaging-tutorial
[10:48] <Ven-2> Rory, I'm form Poland
[10:49] <cfhowlett> !pl|Ven-2
[10:50] <ucenik> qrwa mac!
[10:50] <Ven-2> ucenik, międzynarodowe ;-)
[10:50] <Rory> dave23: Not sure what you're asking; did you follow the instructions in that answer I linked you?
[10:51] <Ven-2> Rory, I open all links and read it. But this is too compilcated to me. My english is very poor
[10:52] <Ven-2> Rory, many instructions is about programs not font
[10:52] <Ven-2> (programs with sources)
[10:52] <dave23> yes but it uses internet connection to download that i don't know
[10:52] <cfhowlett> Ven-2, find your local ubuntu group.
[10:53] <hisham> how to install software centre in linux please !?
[10:53] <Ven-2> cfhowlett, I ask my question on local group about one week
[10:53] <ikonia> hisham: its installed by default in ubuntu
[10:53] <DJones> hisham: Its installed by default in Ubuntu
[10:53] <ucenik> hisham try with synaptic package manager
[10:53] <Ven-2> cfhowlett, and noting can help me, do You know any e-mails?
[10:54] <cfhowlett> Ven-2, wait 1
[10:55] <dave23>  Rory: yes but it uses internet connection to dowload that i dont know/
[10:55] <usr13> hisham: cat /etc/issue   #Tell us what that says.
[10:56] <dave23> Rory: after i type the first command it download on the terminal
[10:58] <tester> hi! What is bash command to display how many memory (RAM) each process takes?
[10:59] <usr13> tester: htop
[11:02] <usr13> tester: ... or just top, but you'll more-than-likely like htop better.
[11:02] <tester> usr13: thanks a lot!
[11:03] <tester> I do like htop much more
[11:03] <dave23> me too
[11:07] <tester> in htop, in Memory bar it says 475/1001MB, but top says that there is only 73MB of free memory... Whom to believe?..
[11:10] <tester> trying to configure a really old machine )
[11:13] <berty> .
[11:13] <tester> nevermind ) Just learned to read ;)
[11:15] <tester> thx again! Bye
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> !atemyram > tester
[11:16] <berty> whats the cleanest ubuntu so far? i basically just need a console and a very simple desktop
[11:16] <cfhowlett> berty, server or mini
[11:17] <cfhowlett> !mini
[11:17] <berty> i am not keen to install x11 on my own :(
[11:17] <Rory> !lubuntu | berty
[11:18] <Rory> berty: That's what I use at work for development
[11:18] <berty> lubuntu... nice. thanks Rory
[11:19] <berty> have you triedn crunchbang? heard good things about that.
[11:19] <berty> look nice too
[11:19] <Rory> berty: I have, but it's not supported. I do personally endorse it though :)
[11:19] <Rory> berty: I mean, it's not supported *here*
[11:19] <berty> hehe got it.
[11:19] <berty> i think its ubuntu based though, is it?
[11:19] <berty> or just debian. not sure..
[11:20] <berty> well. anyways. lets try lubuntu.
[11:20] <Beldar> archbang is nice
[11:21] <berty> i am not an arch guy...not yet ;)
[11:21] <gordonjcp> berty: I tried Arch
[11:21] <gordonjcp> it's okay, but I switched back to Ubuntu
[11:21] <gordonjcp> it has its place
[11:21] <berty> sure it has
[11:21] <berty> just heard good things about it...
[11:22] <gordonjcp> berty: I wouldn't recommend it unless you have very very specific requirements
[11:24] <berty> ok. thx guys.
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> berty: if you want a real challenge, try gentoo :)
[11:28] <Wiz_KeeD> Hey guys, how can one find out if a nvidia optimus layout can have the dedicated video card stopped from bios?
[11:28] <usr13> Wiz_KeeD: I suppose you'd look at the bios settings and see.
[11:29] <Wiz_KeeD> haha, I havn't received the notebook yet and if I couldn't i would like to refuse it before it comes XD
[11:29] <usr13> O
[11:29] <ainx> maybe my comp too old for raring, i have many problem here
[11:30] <Rory> ainx: What problems, could you provide more detail?
[11:30] <cfhowlett> ainx, try lubuntu
[11:30] <ainx> and now, i can't play music
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> ainx: install Lubuntu and you'll be ok
[11:30] <ainx> nope
[11:30] <daftykins> Wiz_KeeD: they all have different implementations so you're out of luck about finding out ahead of time unless someone online has detailed it very specifically.
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> ainx: Raring is going to be EOL in January next year anyway....
[11:30] <ainx> i was install all driver soundcard
[11:30] <ainx> but doesn't work
[11:31] <ainx> EOL ?
[11:31] <daftykins> end of line, unsupported
[11:31] <Rory> !eol
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> ainx: dead, not supported
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> ainx: just like WIndows XP will be on 1st April next year
[11:31] <cfhowlett> kaput, 86'd, dirtnap'd
[11:31] <ainx> wow
[11:31] <ainx> seriously ?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> ainx: yes, all OSes eventually die
[11:32] <Rory> !lts | ainx
[11:32] <cfhowlett> ainx, LTS versions (12.04) have at LEAST 3 years support so install 12.04 now and get 14.04 in April
[11:32] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: and not a moment too soon \o/ (XP)
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> ainx: can't seriosly expect companies and users to support an old relase or OS
[11:32] <cfhowlett> except for MS ...
[11:32] <Touhou11> ainx: Be aware that if you install a new Ubuntu version, it now comes with adverts and tracking: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.html You may wish to use Xubuntu or Kubuntu which don't
[11:32] <Rory> Especially Ubuntu where there's a new release every 6 months
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: i have no beef with XP, does what it says on the tin
[11:33] <Ben64> !fud | Touhou11
[11:33] <Rory> !fud | Touhou11
[11:33] <cfhowlett> Touhou11, ^^^
[11:33] <ObrienDave> what? Windows for Workgroups is EOL??? oh, the horror ;P
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: its not spyware
[11:33] <Touhou11> Ben64: So Ubuntu _doesn't_ come with adverts/tracking of users? :/
[11:33] <ainx> ok guys, i  have motherboard P5GC-MX dualcore 1GB RAM 2,8 Ghz Proccesor, what distro i can use?
[11:33] <Touhou11> Pretty sure it does
[11:33] <Rory> Touhou11: [citation needed]
[11:33] <Ben64> not on topic here, and you're wrong
[11:33] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: i'm tired of installing it and supporting it for people :)
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: users are not uniquely identified, making it not spyware
[11:34] <Rory> ainx: I personally recommend Lubuntu
[11:34] <ainx> i mean i want all componen will working good with ubuntu
[11:34] <cfhowlett> Rory, Lubuntu for the win
[11:34] <ainx> lubuntu what version?
[11:34] <daftykins> ainx: that's an old thing. Lubuntu if you want to stay Ubuntu
[11:34] <Ben64> ainx: i'd say 12.04
[11:34] <cfhowlett> ainx, then you need either verify against the hardware list or buy an OEM installed computer.
[11:34] <ainx> 12.04 LTS will be good ?
[11:34] <cfhowlett> no guarantees either way
[11:35] <Rory> ainx: System76 sell PCs/laptops with Ubuntu preinstalled and stuff
[11:35] <Touhou11> ActionParsnip: Sad we have to quibble about the definition of spyware in a Linux distribution
[11:35] <cfhowlett> ainx, 12.04 IS good and it's supported to 2017
[11:35] <ainx> 12 IS, hem, i'll find out
[11:35] <Ben64> Touhou11: its very well documented and very easy to remove, and still not on topic here, and still not spyware, drop it
[11:36] <Touhou11> Ben64: Suppressing those raising valid concerns known isn't in the spirit of Open Source
[11:37] <Rory> Touhou11: Great, start a blog. This is the ubuntu support IRC channel
[11:38] <Touhou11> The EFF also has concerns about Ubuntu privacy: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/privacy-ubuntu-1210-amazon-ads-and-data-leaks Unfortunately their suggestions have been ignored so far
[11:39] <Rory> Touhou11: Are you trying to be disruptive and get kicked so you can claim on the Internet that the #ubuntu mods are "censoring you" ?
[11:39] <usr13> Rory: Touhou11 Great!  All we need is yet another conspiracy theory blog  ;)
[11:40] <Touhou11> Rory: I'm not trying to get kicked, just helping people making an informed choice
[11:40] <Ben64> Touhou11: this channel is not #spiritofopensource this is the ubuntu support channel. discussion on that topic is NOT ON TOPIC here. simple as that
[11:40] <DJones> Touhou11: Please move the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is only for specific support issues, however I'm sure you'll find people willing to discuss it in the offtopic channel
[11:41] <usr13> Touhou11: ... or, keep your opinions to yourself.
[11:41] <Touhou11> usr13: Telling someone that Ubuntu is adware isn't an opinion, it's a fact
[11:42] <usr13> Touhou11: .... in *your* opinion.
[11:42] <usr13> Touhou11: So, thank you for that, we got it.
[11:47] <layke_> I just run this on installing Ubuntu. I think that's all you need to do to disable the sharing of what you mentioned in the data leaks.. https://fixubuntu.com/
[11:48] <layke_> @ Touhou11
[11:49] <Touhou11> layke_: Thanks for that, a useful site. Shame Canonical tried to suppress the information and issued legal notices to the website owner
[11:49] <layke_> *shrugs*
[11:49] <Ben64> !adlens | Touhou11
[11:49] <Ben64> from ubottu on the official ubuntu channel.... stop fud'ing
[11:49] <Ben64> take it to #ubuntu-offtopic , it really really is not on topic here
[11:50] <layke_> O that is a legitamate channel :)
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: if you dont run Unity shell, you don't get that stuff you know
[11:51] <nzb> how do I find out the name of my mainboard? If it's printed on it, I can't see it because the cpu cooler is in the way. I don't have the box and the manual here either.
[11:51] <Touhou11> ActionParsnip: I'm aware of that, I find Unity very slow anyway. I was just assisting others
[11:51] <makara> what was to blame for the Ubuntu Forums being hacked?
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: how is ranting 'helping' anyone?
[11:51] <DJones> @bansearch shark
[11:51] <Touhou11> !ot | ActionParsnip
[11:53] <Rory> nzb: sudo dmidecode -t 2
[11:54] <nzb> Rory: thank you
[11:54] <Rory> No problem, glad I could help :)
[11:54] <layke_> What screenshot/printscreen app do you guys use. Looking for something that assists in quickly capturing then uploading to a service. At the moment my workflow on this is slow.. and can take time to manually do it all :)
[11:55] <Rory> layke_: Shutter
[11:55] <layke_> I looked at Shutter Rory, it doesn't seem to save any of my preferences. ie. If I want to use FTP I have to enter my FTP details every single time?
[11:55] <Rory> layke_: You can screenshot windows, sections of the screen, then crop and upload to imgur or whatever
[11:56] <layke_> Or if I want to always upload to imgur, I have to reselect it every time? (I tried googling for Shutter profiles but came up blank.. so started looking for another package..).
[11:57] <Rory> layke_: edit->preferences, then save your settings as a "profile" at the top
[11:57] <h0k3n_th3_bok3n> hi, can anyone tell me how can I determine version of libraries which my binary depends on?
[11:57] <layke_> Rory, Ahh thanks. Can't believe I missed that.
[11:57] <layke_> Rory, Genuinely looked everywhere.
[11:58] <Rory> h0k3n_th3_bok3n: readelf -d a.out | grep NEEDED
[11:58] <Anuska> help, how i see if someone try to connect at my linux remote?
[11:58] <Rory> Anuska: Do you mean through ssh?
[11:58] <Anuska> becouse i get a message: Host x ... try to connect remotly: ALLOW or REFUZED
[11:58] <Rory> Anuska: Where are you seeing that lessage?
[11:59] <h0k3n_th3_bok3n> Rory,  thanks but soname does not contain a version information.
[11:59] <Anuska> in my linux
[11:59] <Rory> Anuska: ...
[11:59] <Rory> Anuska: what file?
[11:59] <Anuska> but i press refuzed...
[11:59] <Anuska> in the screen
[11:59] <Rory> Anuska: Are you running some sort of remote access software?
[12:00] <Anuska> the desktop sharing was actived
[12:00] <Anuska> yes teamviewer
[12:00] <Rory> Anuska: Is it open to the Internet do you know?
[12:00] <h0k3n_th3_bok3n> Rory: "[libconfig.so.8]" this is definitely not a version of the library.
[12:00] <Anuska> ...
[12:00] <Anuska> uf
[12:01] <Rory> Anuska: I'm not sure what your issue is... you get a popup, that is how you see if someone is trying to connect
[12:12] <donc3> Hi all I'm using the last version of ubuntu with gnome 3
[12:12] <jakob____> hi looking to buy some old ibm laptops for some experiments - any ideas for a refurbishment agency?
[12:12] <donc3> and sometines the desktop reboots
[12:12] <b0x> jakob____: ex government
[12:12] <b0x> always a winner
[12:13] <donc3> could somebody help me?? I paste my Xorg.0.log and syslog files
[12:13] <jakob____> a webpage?
[12:13] <b0x> would be in your specific area
[12:13] <jakob____> i am in EE so its not exactly easy
[12:14] <donc3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6529456/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6529459/
[12:15] <jakob____> is there a webpage that can offer that?
[12:15] <jakob____> is there a webpage that can offer that? «b0x»
[12:16] <donc3> could somebody help me with mny problem???
[12:16] <DJones> jakob____: That not really an Ubuntu support issue, you could maybe ask in #ubuntu-offtopic and see if anybody can point you in the right direction
[12:18] <daftykins> donc3: you're trying to load the fglrx driver but it doesn't exist, so it's not been installed properly / generated for the running kernel
[12:18] <donc3> ahh!
[12:18] <donc3> daftykins so what must I do??
[12:19] <daftykins> donc3: well, if you installed the AMD driver, do it right :D
[12:19] <daftykins> !ati
[12:19] <donc3> daftykins no, I haven't installed any fglrx driver
[12:20] <donc3> cause my card is AGP and I'm using an old kernel
[12:20] <daftykins> what's the card?
[12:20] <donc3> ATI 3850 HD AGP
[12:20] <daftykins> it says you're running 3.10.18
[12:20] <daftykins> 0o
[12:21] <usr13> donc3: pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   #Send us resulting URL
[12:22] <donc3> usr13 xorg.conf.failsafe?????
[12:22] <daftykins> looks like the radeon driver is loading and working fine
[12:22] <daftykins> oh you said gnome reboots, no idea what's going on there then
[12:22] <usr13> donc3: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf     #Does it say that the file does not exist?
[12:22] <donc3> yes
[12:23] <usr13> donc3: Ok, just checking.
[12:23] <donc3> I only have xorg.conf.failsafe and xorg.conf.failsafe.backup
[12:23] <sabs> i want to know how i can install server on ubuntu ?
[12:23] <daftykins> sabs: what do you mean by "install server" ?
[12:24] <daftykins> do you mean how do install "ubuntu server" ?
[12:24] <sabs> yup
[12:24] <daftykins> download it :)
[12:24] <donc3> daftykins: yes only gnome, and sometimes the system gets blocked with the screen pixelated and I have to reboot but this only sometimes
[12:25] <daftykins> i have no experience with gnome3
[12:25] <sabs> daftykins i d'ont see the lijnk ?
[12:25] <sabs> link
[12:25] <daftykins> sabs: on ubuntu.com ?
[12:26] <usr13> donc3: Sounds a bit like a hardware issue.
[12:26] <daftykins> sabs: visit ubuntu.com - highlight "Download" on the orange bar at the top, then click on 'Server'
[12:26] <sabs> ok thanx dafykins
[12:26] <donc3> I don't know
[12:26] <donc3> usr13
[12:27] <usr13> donc3: Desktop or Laptop?
[12:27] <donc3> desktop
[12:27] <sabs> so someone can help mee  to get a command of base for administration serveur ?
[12:27] <usr13> donc3: When was the last cleaning / re-greasing
[12:28] <donc3> I don't know! usr13
[12:28] <usr13> donc3: Maybe it is time.
[12:28] <daftykins> sabs: to learn how to use it? no, look up some guides online
[12:29] <sabs> yes i want to learn it .. can you help mee daftykins ?
[12:31] <daftykins> sabs: no, but as i say, find a beginners guide online maybe
[12:32] <sabs> someone can help mee ?
[12:32] <sabs> pleas
[12:33] <daftykins> sabs: if you are unwilling to google for a guide then you will never attain your goals in life
[12:33] <impradeepy> sabs:can you be more specific, like what is your aim etc of using server not edition
[12:34] <impradeepy> server edition
[12:34] <impradeepy> not desktop
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> sabs: how do you mean 'administration server'?
[12:42] <urielvigilant> where i can get a short cut key map to operate  Lubuntu 13.10 almost full on Keyboard ?
[12:44] <zbrkxbr>  hi guys
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> urielvigilant: less ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu.xml     or whatever file is in there, shows keyboard shortcust :)
[12:45] <urielvigilant> another question : Lubuntu 13.10 don  t run on acer wlmy 3003 with 1 Gb Ram, the screen start to switching on and off many time and it never reach to part we choose a full install or a try . . , i tryed booth,  cd and ubunutu usb pen persistent , i also tryed ubuntu 13.10 , it odnt run too on it
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> urielvigilant: if you run:   sudo lshw -C display   what video chip is used and is it 'unclaimed'?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> urielvigilant: according to the web it's a SiS Mirage
[12:47] <urielvigilant> ActionParsnip : i should write that on terminal ? or navigate to that menu and open the file there with calc software  about question keyboard key map )
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> urielvigilant: its a terminal command but you can read the file in Leafpad if you like
[12:48] <urielvigilant> ActionParsnip : about second questions ; i never was wable to reach to a terminal on acer wlmi firend of mine laptop . .  .
[12:49] <impradeepy> just upgraded to 13.04 from 10.04, its very laggy
[12:49] <urielvigilant> I think in it too... , so i should install 10.04 on laptop and then upgrade from that instalation right ?
[12:50] <impradeepy> 10.04 is eol
[12:50] <impradeepy> now :(
[12:50] <Blueskaj> Howdy folks
[12:50] <urielvigilant> should a 12.04 version work right ? its a LTS . .
[12:51] <impradeepy> yes
[12:52] <urielvigilant> i will try that one instead . . . .
[12:52] <urielvigilant> wen i typed :          less ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu.xml on terminal it says file or directory inexistence  .
[12:53] <impradeepy>  new shutdown popup i hate it, unity eew,
[12:54] <bl4ckdu5t> how do I find another process using dpkg? I'm trying to do a apt-get update and I get this:
[12:54] <urielvigilant> here say Lubuntu 12.04 supported only until 13 October
[12:55] <urielvigilant> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/PreviousReleases#A12.04
[12:55] <bl4ckdu5t> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:56] <impradeepy> hmm
[12:56] <impradeepy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[12:58] <urielvigilant> how i can find open box directory trough out the PCMANfm
[12:58] <urielvigilant> ?
[13:00] <urielvigilant> ok , i found already, the file inside is lubuntu-rc.xml
[13:02] <impradeepy> try this lubuntu-menu.xml
[13:02] <ilhami> Hey
[13:02] <impradeepy> i dun ve much idea
[13:02] <ilhami> I messed up my Windows 8 partition after resizing. What do I do?
[13:02] <ilhami> Anyone who wants to see the error log?
[13:02] <impradeepy> ilhami:post it
[13:03] <ilhami> http://pastebin.com/fR78ztJ3 <-- here you go
[13:04] <ilhami> Can I save this partition? or at least some of the files in it?
[13:04] <urielvigilant> i cant find the file, in wich menu it is ?
[13:04] <urielvigilant>  lubuntu-menu.xml
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> ilhami: may have to use your backups
[13:05] <ilhami> ActionParsnip: what backups?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> urielvigilant: if you open ~/.config/openbox   you wil see the file
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> ihre: the backups you made, to a removable media like a USB drive
[13:05] <impradeepy> urielvigilant: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> ilhami: you make backups right? your data is valuable to you?
[13:06] <ilhami> ActionParsnip: I didn't make any backups haha. :)
[13:06] <impradeepy> no backups??but y?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> ilhami: why not?
[13:06] <urielvigilant> ActionPArsnip the only file inside it, is lubuntu-rc.xml , and inside it dont show the keyboard map
[13:06] <ilhami> Because the files aren't that important. :) I just want to see if I can convert it back to NTFS and use it.. Is is not possible?
[13:06] <impradeepy> format it then
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> urielvigilant: it shows the shrtcut keys default to Lubuntu. Is that what you needed?
[13:07] <ilhami> impradeepy: should I format it from windows or Linux?
[13:07] <impradeepy> ilhami:as you wish
[13:07] <ilhami> yeah but does it make any difference?
[13:08] <ilhami> because Linux use GPT and Windows something else.
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> ilhami: what OS do you want on the drive?
[13:08] <ilhami> I want Win8 again.
[13:08] <impradeepy> ilhami:no, just remember files system
[13:08] <impradeepy> use ntfs
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> ilhami: then it will need to be NTFS, format using WIndows
[13:08] <ilhami> I have triple boot...
[13:08] <ilhami> or dual boot since Win 8 is corrupt now.
[13:09] <ilhami> I have mint, Win8 and win7 installed right now. I think I will just format the Win8 partition.
[13:09] <impradeepy> ilhami:insert your source media and try to restore or repair the broken files
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> ilhami: then how is this Ubuntu related>
[13:10] <ilhami> ActionParsnip: they didn't help me in #linux. :)
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> ilhami: you arent using ubuntu
[13:10] <ilhami> The help is better here.
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> ilhami: so not supported here
[13:10] <joe75> lol
[13:10] <impradeepy> no comments
[13:11] <ilhami> so I will format using Windows 7, ok?
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> ilhami: as you wish
[13:11] <ilhami> Brb
[13:15] <amireldor> 12.04, is it possible to have Unity Super+W show the apps' icons as well? Like (IIRC) Gnome-Shell?
[13:18] <newpey> hi there i can not install compiz.. i think i maybe missing a repo?
[13:18] <newpey> Unable to locate package compiz-fusion-plugins-main
[13:18] <newpey> please help :)
[13:18] <Stanley00> !compiz | newpey
[13:19] <newpey> checking! thanks!
[13:19] <Stanley00> !info compiz | newpey
[13:19] <Stanley00> !find compiz | newpey
[13:19] <nilsge> hello. I just installed ubuntu as my second linux system. My first one is a very leightweight arch distribution, my ubuntu is for gaming. Now I have the problem that pulse audio does not see my soundcard. So I get no sound.  Alsa tells me the device is ok, I know the device is ok from my other distribution. It shows as alsa device but not as pulseaudio device. I installed pavucontrol and it only shows me my HDMI audio, which I deactivate
[13:20] <Stanley00> newpey: as you see, there's nothing call compiz-fusion-plugins... just compiz-plugins and so,
[13:20] <newpey> Stanley00, i was looking at the ubuntuguide.. maybe the infor there is incorrect
[13:20] <Stanley00> newpey: and IMO, you shouldn't use compiz plugins, they slow your computer down for nothing :D
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> nilsge: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[13:21] <nilsge> ActionParsnip: that starts an ncurses program with many information. Which one do you want?
[13:21] <newpey> Stanley00, the help page you sent me is correct... i will use that.. i just want to play around with it
[13:22] <nilsge> ah, it wrote it to a file. one moment...
[13:22] <nilsge> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=c377184b3599c75a9819a986fa49f53f063a35a6
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> nilsge: if you run:  alsamixer   are all levels maxed and unmuted?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> nilsge: if you press F6 you can switch output device, also run the sound GUI application and do the same (check output device and so forth)
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> nilsge: you could run the same command in the other distro and compare
[13:27] <nilsge> ActionParsnip: yes, the levels are good. The problem really is pulseaudio here. It does not give me snd_hdsp as output option
[13:28] <nilsge> ActionParsnip: fyi, alsamixer can't handle snd_hdsp. There is hdspmixer for that. Which I have and which results in the correct levels.
[13:29] <arnis> anyone using CakePHP-upload plugin? Seems pretty good one, but it wont store files to hdd, only adds file name in database.
[13:29] <nilsge> aha!
[13:30] <nilsge> pactl load-module module-detect
[13:30] <nilsge> thats it
[13:30] <arnis> opz, wrong chanel.
[13:30] <nilsge> dear Ubuntu staff, please add that PA module module-detect as automatically loaded standard module
[13:31] <vinzenz> Hi. Can anyone help me? My notebook is not booting. Partitions exists, I can start Ubuntu Live USB, but obviously my notebook can't find the boot device (HD).
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> nilsge: report a bug
[13:31] <vinzenz> It's my working station, I need it.
[13:31] <nilsge> ActionParsnip: I have no bugtracker account
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> nilsge: create a Launchpad account, then you can report the bug
[13:32] <urielvigilant> vinzenz : restastart then F2 or F9 , choose boot menu, then F5 or F6 to put USB in first place, then save and exit
[13:32] <vinzenz> urielvigilant: Yes, I can start from USB stick. But then?
[13:33] <urielvigilant> then someone will help you then
[13:33] <kansai> hi all installed ubuntu 13.10 , ati hd 6250 gpu on my pc.. normally when installing drivers from ati's site with kernel 3.11x it crashes.. same with opensuse .. how can i do this instead of installing drivers from ati's website ??
[13:33] <vinzenz> urielvigilant:Okay, I've started Ubuntu Live from USB.
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> kansai: ubuntu has packaged drivers, why are you using ATI's site?
[13:34] <kansai> where to get them ?
[13:35] <kansai> radeon.dpm=1
[13:35] <kansai> when i add this
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> !ati | kansai
[13:35] <kansai> heat gets lower
[13:35] <kansai> before adding it 85%
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> kansai: you can add boot options in /etc/default/grub     remember to run:  sudo update-grub   after making the change
[13:35] <kansai> after adding %40-65
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> kansai: you will need to run:   gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub   to get write accesz
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> kansai: add the option in the quotes with "quiet splash" which are the 2 default boot options in Ubuntu
[13:36] <kansai> are you talking about radeon.dpm=1 ?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> kansai: yes
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> kansai: you add boot options in /etc/default/grub then run: sudo update-grub  to apply
[13:38] <antar> Hi people
[13:38] <antar> What is the best for ubuntu , Chromuim vs Firefox ?
[13:38] <kansai> cheers ActionParsnip
[13:38] <IdleOne> antar: try them both and decide for yourself
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> antar: either, neither is best
[13:39] <IdleOne> Please don't take polls in this channel
[13:39] <antar> IdleOne, Why
[13:39] <ObrienDave> !best
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> antar: you do realise you are using an OS that champions choice and freedom, yet you come into a channel and ask strangers what to use....strange
[13:39] <IdleOne> because there are as many opinions as there are users in here, and it isn't the purpose of the channel.
[13:40] <vinzenz> Can anyone help me? Obviously my notebook doesn't recognize my HD as a possible boot device.
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> vinzenz: how is it obvious?
[13:41] <net125mp> I can do anythign with sudo, i keep getting    Product-Name:~$ sudo apt-get update
[13:41] <net125mp> sudo: unable to change to sudoers gid: Operation not permitted
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> net125mp: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[13:42] <vinzenz> ActionParsnip:I don't see any boot devices in the BIOS. Normally I can select and change the boot order (set HD in first place for example). But there is no HD. There is nothing.
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> vinzenz: but how were we to know this detail?
[13:42] <vinzenz> When I start the notebook, I end up in the BIOS automatically.
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> vinzenz: sounds like a hardware issue if the BIOS is not detecting the device
[13:43] <net125mp> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> net125mp: and what is the output of:  groups
[13:44] <vinzenz> ActionParsnip:Do you have any ideas, what I could try?
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> vinzenz: i'd ask in ##hardware
[13:45] <net125mp> ActionParsnip, guest-L25jxR
[13:45] <net125mp> my user name, host name
[13:45] <Guest87754> how to remove temporary  files in UBUNTU 13.10..thanks!
[13:45] <net125mp> the user account was named guest
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> net125mp: then you aren't a sudo-er so you won't get sudo access.
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Guest87754: bleachbit can do that, be careful with it
[13:46] <Guest87754> I mean command line...
[13:46] <net125mp> ActionParsnip, sudo worked before, what can i do to fix it?
[13:46] <net125mp> add the user to the wheel group?
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Guest87754: bleachbit has CLI too
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> net125mp: you need a sudo-er to add you to the sudo group (or reboot to root recovery console and add yourself there)
[13:47] <c0n3x40l1vr3> B4lr0g
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> net125mp: the group name is 'sudo'
[13:47] <Guest87754> thanks ..!
[13:48] <net125mp> ActionParsnip, how would the admin account of been deleted?
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> net125mp: no idea, check logs etc, or a malformed group manipulation command
[13:50] <net125mp> ActionParsnip, i checked history with no luck, what log would you recommend?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> net125mp: not sure to be honest, use the web to find out maybe. Once you get added to the sudo group you can add yourself to other groups
[13:51] <net125mp> ActionParsnip, ill just reinstall
[13:51] <goiken> Hi. Is there a downloader for vokle.com? I can’t get the tools I use for other sites to work with it. For example the media stealer tells me that application/x-shockwave-flash isn’t supported.
[13:53] <cfhowlett> goiken, best to check on vokle.com, no?
[13:54] <goiken> they tell me it’s not possible, but obviously they’d only like to keep "their" videos on their site.
[13:54] <eTronik> Hi all, where should I add the export  for JAVA_HOME?
[13:55] <goiken> cfhowlett if my browser can display a stream, i should be able to download it, shouldn’t I?
[13:55] <cfhowlett> goiken, it seems to be a propietary app, so I'd say anything is possible, but ...
[13:56] <goiken> cfhowlett it should also be possible to do it all legally, because I uploaded the videos i’m interested in in the first place (i did a stream of an event with their site)
[13:58] <cfhowlett> goiken, don't know what you want here.  You used a closed app but want the opensource experience ... :)   Ask them what's what
[13:58] <eTronik> where should system-wide export definitions be placed ? say for JAVA_HOME
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> eTronik: /etc/environment
[14:01] <Balzy> Hello! I have an Asus A54HR-SX324V and running kubuntu 13.04. I'm trying to solve a battery consumption problem since 2 months ago. I've googled and searched the ubuntu forum for a solution but so far I couldn't solve the issue. Is there anyone who had the same problem with a similar laptop or knows how to solve it? Someone says it's due to a conflict between the Radeon and the integrated video card, someone else says it'
[14:01] <Balzy> s a problem caused by ACPI drivers...
[14:01] <eTronik> ActionParsnip, can I place there other definitions say for JAVA_HOME and export them ? i.e. besides adding stuff to the path ?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> eTronik: yes, its just a definitions file :)
[14:04] <goiken> cfhowlett I think this goody just solved my prob.
[14:04] <goiken> http://meinnoteblog.wordpress.com/2012/07/23/download-flash-streams-unter-ubuntu/
[14:05] <cfhowlett> goiken, bada bing!   good one.
[14:06] <eTronik> ActionParsnip, thanks
[14:16] <MetatronG> You know I always wondered, since index-sequential file organization provides for both sequential and direct access of records, why do we need any other methods of file organization?
[14:24] <kansai> ActionParsnip:  ActionParsnip: kansai: ubuntu has packaged drivers, why are you using ATI's site?
[14:24] <kansai> ActionParsnip:  its not as you said .. sometimes cant install that easy ?
[14:32] <Wiz_KeeD> hello guys?
[14:32] <Wiz_KeeD> Could I trouble you with some...much needed help :-s
[14:33] <Touhou11> Wiz_KeeD: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#prune
[14:33] <BlackTerm> Wiz_KeeD, its more easy for us to help if you just state your question
[14:33] <cfhowlett> BlackTerm, you take all the fun out of it.  My crystal ball was almost all warmed up!
[14:33] <BlackTerm> :P
[14:34] <Wiz_KeeD> hahaha
[14:34] <Wiz_KeeD> nice one cfhowlett :)))
[14:34] <Wiz_KeeD> much appreciated...
[14:34] <Wiz_KeeD> Uhm...I just bought a new asus notebook that's sitting on my desk and I would like to install windows on first then ubuntu in dual boot
[14:34] <Wiz_KeeD> The problem is...it has all usb 3.0 (if that makes any difference)
[14:35] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, your notebook has NO OS on it?
[14:35] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: I fail to see how that's a problem
[14:35] <Wiz_KeeD> and the usb stick will not boot
[14:35] <ekristen> there are like 9 different tools for doing a repo, anyone have a recommendation
[14:35] <BlackTerm> how is usb 3 a problem?
[14:35] <Wiz_KeeD> cfhowlett, it has free-dos...if that helps
[14:35] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Where did you get that? Not as part of your support, I'm just curious
[14:35] <Wiz_KeeD> BlackTerm, I've read some crappy article that said usb 3.0 are non-native and you cannot boot sticks from it or some crap like that
[14:35] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, USB should be able to read/write to USB 2
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> Email: Suneel.Vemulapalli@manheim.co.uk
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> Pass: Polu7515
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> Windows: s_vemulapalli
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> ha
[14:36] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: I can boot USB2 and USB3 flash drives from my USB3 port, no issue
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> funny,
[14:36] <andygraybeal> if i connect a usb drive to my computer, and it doesn't automatically pop up, what steps should i take ot troubleshoot?   i do an "sudo lsusb" and it shows up in my usb device list.  i do an "sudo fdisk -l" but nothing pops up.  any help is appreciated.
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> pass reset
[14:36] <Wiz_KeeD> Rory, it's a local store, we have A LOT of notebooks that come without os or linux or dos
[14:36] <OerHeks> Wiz_KeeD, see the manual if there is one dedicated port to boot from
[14:36] <Wiz_KeeD> OerHeks, good man! nice idea
[14:36] <BlackTerm> Wiz_KeeD, there is no comp ability in the bios for 2.0?
[14:36] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, where in the world ARE you?
[14:36] <Wiz_KeeD> Or try them allll...
[14:36] <Wiz_KeeD> hahah
[14:36] <Wiz_KeeD> the usb stick boots fine from my old dell notebook
[14:37] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Check around the BIOS for options like "legacy USB"
[14:37] <Wiz_KeeD> no such thing Rory
[14:37] <Wiz_KeeD> I just have Boot option 1 2 3 and 1 just came up it's uefi kingmax usb2
[14:37] <Wiz_KeeD> since I slid in the usb stick
[14:37] <Wiz_KeeD> it did not appear before that
[14:37] <Wiz_KeeD> so the boot priority is nice
[14:37] <BlackTerm> make a dvd :D
[14:37] <Wiz_KeeD> I only have Launch PXE opROM disabled
[14:38] <Wiz_KeeD> BlackTerm, I don't want to :(
[14:39] <Wiz_KeeD> So why does it work on my dell but not on this new shiny one...
[14:39] <Rory> !uefi
[14:39] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Does your BIOS have an "advanced mode" or simila?
[14:40] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Maybe the option is hidden in there
[14:40] <Wiz_KeeD> I have tried all usb ports and none boot Rory
[14:40] <Wiz_KeeD> uhmm I don't see such
[14:40] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Nearly all modern BIOSs do
[14:40] <Wiz_KeeD> Wait...you're right
[14:40] <Wiz_KeeD> Usb configuration, legacy usb support enabled Rory
[14:40] <Wiz_KeeD> :(
[14:41] <Wiz_KeeD> XHCI Pre-Boot Mode Auto
[14:41] <BlackTerm> what did you make the bootable usb with?
[14:41] <Wiz_KeeD> Win2flash BlackTerm, and it boots on my dell notebook with no issues
[14:41] <BlackTerm> unetbootin works with UEFI boot on my mac book pro
[14:41] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Is there an option for Secure Boot?
[14:41] <BlackTerm> yea well
[14:42] <BlackTerm> i had the same problem on the mac with UEFI, would only work when the pen was made with unetbootin
[14:42] <BlackTerm> else no boot
[14:42] <Wiz_KeeD> Rory, i don't see such
[14:43] <Wiz_KeeD> In Boot all i HAve is boot option priorities
[14:43] <Wiz_KeeD> CDC/DVD ROM DRIVE BBS priorities
[14:43] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Even in advanced mode?
[14:43] <Wiz_KeeD> HARD Drive BBS Priorities
[14:43] <Wiz_KeeD> Add new boot options delete boot option
[14:43] <OerHeks> Wiz_KeeD, give us your laptop model, maybe there are known solutions
[14:43] <Wiz_KeeD> Rory, there is a advanced tab not advanced mode of what I see it
[14:43] <Wiz_KeeD> OerHeks, right away, thanks a lot :)
[14:44] <Wiz_KeeD> Asus R501VB-S3116D
[14:44] <Wiz_KeeD> thanks a lot for helping out guys, idk where else on earth people would volunteer to spare someone pain like this
[14:44] <Wiz_KeeD> Bios version guys is 2.15.1227 C 2012 American Megatrends, Inc
[14:44] <Rory> !cookie | everyone
[14:44] <Guest42558> | isn't here
[14:45] <Wiz_KeeD> haha
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: that's why it's called a community :)
[14:45] <Wiz_KeeD> ActionParsnip, opensource > *
[14:45] <Wiz_KeeD> And it's not even strictly ubuntu related
[14:45]  * Wiz_KeeD is feeling the love
[14:46] <Wiz_KeeD> I really hope I'm not stuck here or this notebook has some stupid problems
[14:46] <Wiz_KeeD> :(
[14:49] <Wiz_KeeD> Pfff
[14:49] <Wiz_KeeD> HAH
[14:49] <Wiz_KeeD> guys, found it! JEsus!
[14:49] <Wiz_KeeD> phewww
[14:49] <BlackTerm> heh
[14:49] <BlackTerm> eye problem? :;D
[14:49] <Wiz_KeeD> no...hell  no...it was in Hard=drive BBS property
[14:49] <BlackTerm> ahh yea
[14:49] <Wiz_KeeD> and there was jut theusb stick and the hard-drive
[14:49] <Wiz_KeeD> what the hell is THAT about?
[14:50] <BlackTerm> thats uefi for you :)
[14:50] <Wiz_KeeD> wtf is that?
[14:50] <BlackTerm> so it boots now?
[14:50] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: please tone it down, you've been here enough to know how it works
[14:51] <Priesty> I am using Ubuntu 12.04.3 Live USB.  I have created a 25GB .disk file that is located on the windows partition. (same as WUBI).  I have done: sudo losetup /dev/loop1 /mnt/<disk file location>/root.disk.  I can now see that .disk file using disk utility and it has a ext4 file system.  How can I add this disk (and swap .disk file) to the Ubuntu Installer so I can install Ubuntu into the .disk file
[14:52] <cfhowlett> Priesty, wubi ... why?
[14:52] <Wiz_KeeD> BlackTerm, yeah it booted directly on the first run, and installing windows now
[14:52] <Priesty> I knew someone would ask why lol
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> wubi is awful
[14:52] <Wiz_KeeD> BlackTerm, there is one other thing that I would like to do...but I doubt it can be done
[14:53] <cfhowlett> Priesty, 1: wubi is for TESTING ubuntu, not long term installation.  2. it may be a dead or dying project.  3. virtualbox is so easy, a caveman could do it.
[14:53] <Wiz_KeeD> and that is shut down the dedicated nvidia graphics card and leave the intel one only
[14:53] <BlackTerm> u can do that
[14:53] <BlackTerm> look for Optimus settings
[14:53] <Priesty> I wish to install a uefi compatible Ubuntu into the .disk file then I shall use GRUB on a USB key to boot it
[14:53] <Wiz_KeeD> BlackTerm, If I struggled to boot from USB I doubt I can do that
[14:54] <ikonia> Priesty: that just sounds like a real mess
[14:54] <BlackTerm> heh
[14:54] <Wiz_KeeD> The only settings in Video settings is how much to allocate the internal gpu
[14:54] <Wiz_KeeD> that's it...
[14:54] <cfhowlett> Priesty, so ... a uefi compatabile live bood?
[14:54] <cfhowlett> boot?
[14:55] <jhutchins> Wiz_KeeD: So you are installing Windows after installing Ubuntu?
[14:55] <OerHeks> Wiz_KeeD, i just read your manual, see bios > interface security > i/o security, and see if something is locked > http://www.asus.com/au/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/R501VM#support
[14:55] <Priesty> cfhowlett I am creating my own dual-boot system using a usb key to boot the .disk files as windows will not let me change my default boot loader and GRUB does not boot Windows with secure boot enabl
[14:55] <BlackTerm> other way around i think
[14:55] <Wiz_KeeD> jhutchins, no, vice-versa
[14:55] <Wiz_KeeD> OerHeks, that is so nice of you, and you looked into it for a while I see
[14:55] <cfhowlett> Priesty, wubi no longer ships with ubuntu for good reason.  good luck, I can be of no help.
[14:56] <Wiz_KeeD> But I solved the problem by clicking on Harddrive...BSS settings or something like that
[14:56] <Wiz_KeeD> And there was ANOTHER boot order and I altered...
[14:56] <Wiz_KeeD> OerHeks, my last job now wouldb e to shutdown the video-card for the optimus crap and leave just the integrated gpu
[14:56] <OerHeks> 2 times bootorder ..
[14:56] <Wiz_KeeD> then i'm HAPPY x 20
[14:56] <Wiz_KeeD> OerHeks, yes...don't ask me what's that about...
[14:57] <Priesty> I know why WUBI was discontinued, it was because the bootloader cannot be reliably changed thanks to microsoft
[14:57] <Wiz_KeeD> it has discontinued? heh :))
[14:57] <cfhowlett> Priesty, so ... dual boot is out?
[14:58] <Wiz_KeeD> It was in hard-drive BBS properties OerHeks
[14:58] <Wiz_KeeD> and I have two boot options
[14:58] <Priesty> cfhowlett oh yes microsoft have really done a number on this one
[14:58] <Priesty> no more dual booting on efi with gpt
[15:01] <jhutchins> Priesty: Eh?  You can do that.
[15:01] <Priesty> Windows 8 Certification program requires that if the computer fails to boot or the default boot loader entry is change to anything other that Windows one, then the motherboard will reset the boot entries and in some cases delete all other .efi files
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> Priesty: just use Ubuntu then, or install to a USB / SD card etc, get a high enough class SD card and it will be ok
[15:02] <jhutchins> Priesty: Just turn SecureBoot off.
[15:02] <Priesty> not an option on all computers
[15:02] <Priesty> jhutchins not an option on all computers
[15:03] <Priesty> Hence why my idea is to use a usb stick to load the .disk files
[15:03] <Priesty> gets rid of having to go into the bios
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> Priesty: could just install to usb as if it were a hard drive like normal
[15:06] <Wiz_KeeD> what are you generally supposed to do when on the wireless section you have 4 differnt drivers? :))
[15:07] <newOne> hello guys. i've installed Ubuntu 10.04 with wubi on Win XP it was OK until today. when i turn my PC on Windows i can easily get into my Windows but when i choose my Ubuntu to start PC reboots.  please help me
[15:08] <Priesty> ActionParsnip We did this before but a usb stick does not act like ssd which uses software to evenly spread the data across the flash chips, this means that repeatedly using a usb stick over a period of time will damage parts of the chip that are disproportionally used
[15:08] <Priesty> therefore leading to curruption
[15:09] <Priesty> I am using Ubuntu 12.04.3 Live USB.  I have created a 25GB .disk file that is located on the windows partition. (same as WUBI).  I have done: sudo losetup /dev/loop1 /mnt/<disk file location>/root.disk.  I can now see that .disk file using disk utility and it has a ext4 file system.  How can I add this disk (and swap .disk file) to the Ubuntu Installer so I can install Ubuntu into the .disk file
[15:10] <Priesty> All i need to know is How can I add this disk (and swap .disk file) to the Ubuntu Installer so I can install Ubuntu into the .disk file once i have solved this im pretty much there
[15:14] <flakety> Hola
[15:14] <flakety> hay alguien
[15:15] <flakety> jojo
[15:15] <DJones> !es | flakety
[15:16] <Priesty> Ok new subject!!! What is the best Remote Desktop Connection  software
[15:17] <Touhou11> Priesty: For which protocol?
[15:17] <Touhou11> Unless you're debating the merits of the different protocols
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: ssh :)
[15:18] <Priesty> Touhou11 not that important which protocol to use just want it to be customisable and decent
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> Priesty: what is the purpose of the connection?
[15:19] <Priesty> to provide support to linux users
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> Priesty: over LAN?
[15:20] <mbeierl> Priesty, nomachine?
[15:20] <Priesty> ActionParsnip over internet
[15:20] <Priesty> looking now
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> Priesty: teamviewer for cross platformness
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> Priesty: if you make an SSH tunnel you could use VNC
[15:21] <mbeierl> Priesty, https://www.nomachine.com/
[15:22] <martian> Could someone remind me what the name of the commandline program is that you can use to extract archives that will automatically use the right decompression tool? Like you can throw an xz or a rar at it and it will just do it
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> martian: unp
[15:22] <Priesty> what people think of realVNC
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Priesty: its still vnc, with zero security
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> Priesty: so you'll need an SSH tunnel
[15:23] <martian> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> martian: should be default installed imho
[15:23] <Priesty> what no encryption?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> Priesty: yes, VNC has no encryption at all
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> Priesty: all keypresses etc sent in plaintext
[15:23] <Priesty> I would be paying for the software as we are a business
[15:24] <Priesty> the paid version woul;d have encryption
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> Priesty: ssh tunnel then vnc through that
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Priesty: web facing vnc, for those dumb enough to make it web visible, will get brute force attacks all the time
[15:27] <Priesty> Thanks all
[15:28] <Priesty> Shame no one know how to install ubuntu into a .disk file
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> Priesty: its a waste of time
[15:31] <damir__> what is .disk file?
[15:33] <neyder_> help! I'm making a script with this cat | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/khipu-google.list <<EOF
[15:33] <neyder_> deb http://dl.google.com/linux/talkplugin/deb/ stable main
[15:33] <neyder_> deb http://dl.google.com/linux/earth/deb/ stable main
[15:33] <neyder_> EOF
[15:33] <FloodBot1> neyder_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:33] <Priesty> You can use dd if / of to create a .disk file which is like a vhd sort of
[15:33] <Priesty> Ubuntu's WUBI uses them
[15:33] <neyder_> but after execution tee waits for an ENTER to go on
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> neyder_: so you wnat to populate the file with 2 lines?
[15:34] <neyder_> ActionParsnip, editiong sources.list too (so may lines)
[15:34] <Priesty> I have created a 25GB .disk file, then i have done sudo losetup /dev/loop1 /mnt/disk-files/root.disk
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> neyder_: why not use:   echo "deb http://dl.google.com/linux/talkplugin/deb/ stable main" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/khipu-google.list; echo "deb http://dl.google.com/linux/earth/deb/ stable main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/khipu-google.list
[15:35] <Priesty> I can see the disk in the disk utility but not in ubuntu installation program
[15:36] <Priesty> ActionParsnip Why do you think its a waste of time?
[15:36] <neyder_> ActionParsnip, sources.list has many lines to do so
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> Priesty: because you can install to a USB like a normal HDD and boot to it
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> neyder_: ok, then add them in the same way......
[15:37] <neyder_> :-|
[15:37] <neyder_> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6530252/ this
[15:37] <jhutchins> Priesty: debootstrap
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> neyder_: ok, then do an echo "text" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list    for each line to add
[15:39] <neyder_> :-\ ok
[15:39] <neyder_> thanks ActionParsnip
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> neyder_: thats just how i'd do it
[15:39] <neyder_> :)
[15:39] <Priesty> ActionParsnip  I did this before but a usb stick does not act like ssd which uses software to evenly spread the data across the flash chips, this means that repeatedly using a usb stick over a period of time will damage parts of the chip that are disproportionally used therefore leading to loss of data and corruption
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Priesty: ext4 will manage it for you, lots of users run Ubuntu on USB
[15:40] <genial> Good day! How do I save changes I make to /sys/bus/usb/devices/usbX/power/wakeup? I've enabled my remote to power on my machine, but the change is reverted on reboot.
[15:41] <str>  I'm unable to open any PSD files in my brand new installed gimp in ubuntu, is there another pacakge I need to install? I  get the following error:  Error loading PSD file: Unsupported compression mode: 64753
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> genial: add the command:   echo value > /sys/bus/usb/devices/usbX/power/wakeup       to /etc/rc.local   above the 'exit 0' line, it will run as root and just before the login page shows
[15:41] <genial> ah great, thank you ActionParsnip!
[15:41] <_root_> I am on windows and have no access to shell. what is the output of   date -u +%V$(uname)|sha256sum|sed 's/\W//g'
[15:44] <Priesty> We created hundreds of USB keys with very expensive flash chips with our own software on them and we continually had them come back with corruption after a year or so and we found that users would keep removing the keys at the wrong times causing other problems hence why i just want to boot from the key (maybe install the .disk from it) but nothing else
[15:44] <Touhou11> str: GIMP only has rough support for PSD files, you might be out of luck. PSD is apparently an atrocious format to deal with.
[15:44] <Touhou11> str: The author of XEE says it best: PSD is not a good format. PSD is not even a bad format. Calling it such would be an insult to other bad formats, such as PCX or JPEG. No, PSD is an abysmal format. Having worked on this code for several weeks now, my hate for PSD has grown to a raging fire that burns with the fierce passion of a million suns.
[15:44] <Priesty> ActionParsnip We created hundreds of USB keys with very expensive flash chips with our own software on them and we continually had them come back with corruption after a year or so and we found that users would keep removing the keys at the wrong times causing other problems hence why i just want to boot from the key (maybe install the .disk from it) but nothing else
[15:46] <str> Touhou11, but I was able to open PSD files before, so I thought it would be my  ubuntu installation or something similar
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> Priesty: you can put grub and /boot on USB if you want (I guess)
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> Priesty: the data there changes rarely
[15:46] <Touhou11> str: Not all PSD files are equal
[15:47] <Touhou11> str: I can open some PSD files, but not others. Depends on how they were created, the version, what features of the format they're using etc.
[15:52] <andybrine> afternoon everyone
[15:52] <andybrine> does anyone know if it is possible to merge 2 partitions on ubuntu?
[15:53] <whoever> andybrine: andybrine yes but not streight forward
[15:54] <andybrine> thats ok, Is there a chance I could completely skrew up my system if I attempt it?
[15:54] <whoever> andybrine: make one larger and copy or move the smaller partition to it
[15:54] <whoever> andybrine: depends what are the partitions
[15:55] <andybrine> one of the partitions will be a boot partition
[15:55] <Priesty> ActionParsnip That is exactly what i am trying to do, I know that GRUB /boot won't change much and will be reliable on a USB stick but i need to boot the system from the hard drive for performance and reliability
[15:55] <andybrine> well its 2 ext4 partitions
[15:56] <whoever> andybrine: and what is the other
[15:56] <andybrine> they are both ext4
[15:57] <andybrine> one of the mount points is "/" though
[15:57] <andybrine> I dont know if that chould be a problem
[15:57] <whoever> andybrine: i would make an imaage so you have something to go back to  if something goes wrong, but don't forget to adjust the /boot in fstab
[15:57] <jhutchins> andybrine: Yes, that could be a problem.  Or you could just make a mistake.  MAKE BACKUPS!
[15:58] <whoever> andybrine: just adjust the mount mounts for those two in fstab
[15:58] <andybrine> yeah, if its likely im going to skrew it up them I may just not do it
[15:58] <jhutchins> andybrine: You definitely don't want to do this with the system running from those partitions.
[15:58] <andybrine> thanks guys
[15:59] <whoever> andybrine: it is definetly do able
[15:59] <andybrine> you have helped emensely, think I will give it a miss
[15:59] <movedx> I have an internal mirror of the Ubuntu Precise repository. I am able to get my internal servers to talk to it due to a missing public GPG key. How can I resolve this? I have tried adding the public key to the box using apt-key, but it does not accept it.
[16:00] <andybrine> another question is that Im not allowed o write to one of my mounted drives as it says its full
[16:00] <andybrine> I can clearly see there is space on it though
[16:00] <Balzy> Is there anyone willing to help me solve this issue? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2192175&highlight=A54HR
[16:00] <jhutchins> It's amazing the lengths people will go to to avoid making backups.
[16:00] <andybrine> I have a backup of all my important documents
[16:01] <jhutchins> andybrine: Just as you are not allowed to pour more water into a glass that's full.
[16:01] <neyder_> in 12.04 export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive sudo apt-get -y --force-yes -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confdef" -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold"  dist-upgrade
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> Priesty: then when you install, set /boot to be a partition on the USB stick
[16:01] <neyder_> it always ask for confirmation
[16:01] <andybrine> the drive i am trying to write to has 75gb free
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Priesty: could try formatting it in another PC, see if its detectd
[16:02] <andybrine> not anywhere near a full glass
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> andybrine: if you run:   df -i    are you out of inodes per chance?
[16:03] <physicist> Greetings..
[16:03] <andybrine> yeah im out of inodes
[16:04] <physicist> I'm fomating my hard drive and I have 4 o.s. on it. I just want to see what partition I'm booted.
[16:04] <physicist> Which one..
[16:04] <neyder_> mount -l
[16:05] <neyder_> physicist, mount -l and check /
[16:12] <physicist> My ubuntu may is using two partitions. One root and another for filesystem. Is that plausible?
[16:14] <insertcoffee> physicist, huh?
[16:14] <flakety> hi
[16:14] <insertcoffee> you can have / on one HDD and /home on another if you wish
[16:15] <physicist> insertcoffee: Yes.
[16:15] <insertcoffee> Yes.
[16:15] <k1l> physicist: maybe one for / and one for /home. but that depends on what partitions you set up at install
[16:15] <ripthejacker> HI everyone.
[16:16] <physicist> insertcoffee: I'm deleting two systems to install debian kwheezy alongside ubuntu 13.04. I've got a doubt about it.
[16:16] <ripthejacker> Can anyone suggest me a good tool for network monitoring, I would like to know which application has opened which port, and how much data is it transceiving, and it should also display data in graph format.
[16:17] <ripthejacker> Is there any tool like this?
[16:17] <insertcoffee> k1l,physicist: you can modify this post-install in /etc/fstab but edit that at your own risk, it is a very very easy way to completely break your computer
[16:17] <k1l> physicist: you should get a overview youself what partitions you got and contain what.
[16:18] <k1l> physicist: see with gparted (gui partitions program)
[16:18] <insertcoffee> ripthejacker: I use sudo netstat -plnt to see which processes are bound to which ports
[16:18] <insertcoffee> as for the rest, you will need different utils
[16:18] <ripthejacker> insertcoffee: what about the graphs, that shows usage for all the available interfaces.
[16:18] <wad> I've spent several hours now trying to get the ubuntu 13.10 working on my new laptop, but it just hates the video. It has an nvidia card in it. I'm thinking I should revert back to 12.04 LTS.
[16:18] <insertcoffee> there is one... one sec I'll find it
[16:18] <wad> What do you guys think?
[16:18] <neyder_> how to correct this?: exec 2>&1 | sudo tee -a /var/log/instalar.log
[16:19] <neyder_> if I check instalar.log it is empty
[16:19] <MrLaPlague> hi there, i have a very annoying problem, on a system which was working fine on multiple versions of ubuntu, just put 12.04 on (several times, even with gparted wipe of partition table) both mouse and keyboard are not functioning at login screen
[16:19] <insertcoffee> ripthejacker: try ntop
[16:19] <insertcoffee> its top but for networking
[16:19] <MrLaPlague> they are working in bios gui, and ubuntu installer
[16:19] <neyder_> MrLaPlague, Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[16:19] <MrLaPlague> but when i boot into ubuntu, and recovery mode
[16:19] <MrLaPlague> both not working :(
[16:20] <ripthejacker> insertcoffee: ok I'll try that.
[16:20] <ripthejacker> thanks
[16:20] <MrLaPlague> neyder_: thanks, but it doesn't even register any keystrokes
[16:20] <insertcoffee> ripthejacker: hmm, a quick google makes me think I might have got the name wrong...
[16:20] <MrLaPlague> this has been bugging me for a while, is there anything i can do
[16:20] <ripthejacker> insertcoffee: oh it has a web interface.
[16:20] <ripthejacker> insertcoffee: well there is a program called ntop
[16:21] <MrLaPlague> tried clearing cmos
[16:21] <MrLaPlague> etc.
[16:21] <physicist> insertcoffee: Yes, I know. I'm not scared about it anyway. :-)
[16:21] <insertcoffee> ripthejacker: the one I am thinking of has an ncurses command line gui that is blue
[16:21] <physicist> k1l: I'm using exactly gparted.
[16:22] <k1l> physicist: sorry, but we cant guess what partitions you created with which content. you can see which partitions are mounted and used from ubuntu.
[16:22] <insertcoffee> ripthejacker: iptraf
[16:22] <MrLaPlague> anyone able to help on the keyboard issue
[16:23] <insertcoffee> ripthejacker: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/top-linux-monitoring-tools.html
[16:23] <articsun> hi inst
[16:23] <articsun> in steroide_py
[16:23] <articsun> erm
[16:23] <articsun> insertcoffee:
[16:23] <MrLaPlague> oh i see some modules fail to load... perhaps broken install? might test the usb install integrity
[16:23] <FloodBot1> articsun: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:23] <physicist> I already did what I had to do..
[16:24] <physicist> thank you..
[16:24] <jhutchins> MrLaPlague: Clearing the BIOS was a bit silly, but turning on "legacy mode" might help.  I presume these are USB devices?
[16:24] <MrLaPlague> jhutchins: they are indeed
[16:24] <neyder_> i have created a keypair with ssh-keygen in rsa without passphrase but when i'm trying to local connecting it ask me for a passphrase
[16:24] <ripthejacker> insertcoffee: :), thanks I'll try it out and let you know
[16:24] <MrLaPlague> and no i don't think it was silly, this is a test bench system
[16:24] <MrLaPlague> legacy usb devices are enabled
[16:25] <MrLaPlague> so... that isn't the problem
[16:25] <jhutchins> MrLaPlague: THey are very low-level standard devices then, for some reason your DM is not listening to them.  Does the keyboard work in the console if you boot to rescue mode?
[16:25] <MrLaPlague> keyboard and mouse works fine in the installer, but not in the installed os or recovery mode
[16:25] <DrMog> so I've got a quick question on video cards if anybody has a moment,  I've got a basic ubuntu server 12.04 lts install, I had 4 working video cards pre apt-get update, after an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade the cards only worked under root
[16:25] <dosequis> qwdlls, hey
[16:25] <MrLaPlague> jhutchins: no it does not
[16:25] <MrLaPlague> works in bios
[16:25] <DrMog> I reinstalled drivers and now 3 of the cards work for a regular user, and all 4 work under root
[16:25] <MrLaPlague> both kb and mouse
[16:25] <jhutchins> MrLaPlague: Interesting.
[16:25] <MrLaPlague> yes, indeed, very confusing
[16:25] <DrMog> running xdm, any places I can look to fix
[16:26] <MrLaPlague> as you can tell it's kind of blocking me from doing some work :(
[16:26] <jhutchins> MrLaPlague: Makes it a bit difficult to troubleshoot.  Can you ssh to the system?
[16:26] <MrLaPlague> i suspect a bad install, but it's done it several times round, i'll try making another installer and see if that works
[16:26] <MrLaPlague> i did consider ssh in
[16:26] <MrLaPlague> is that easy enough to set up... given my current situation
[16:26] <jhutchins> MrLaPlague: No, repeating the same action and expecting a different result doesn't work.
[16:27] <dosequis> qwdlls, u there?
[16:27] <MrLaPlague> jhutchins: i didn't repeat without change, i experimented
[16:27] <jhutchins> MrLaPlague: This is not simply an install that went "oops".
[16:27] <jhutchins> MrLaPlague: How are you connecting to irc?
[16:27] <MrLaPlague> e.g. remove partition because it picks up old kb settings
[16:27] <MrLaPlague> jhutchins: on another system, people can have > 1 computer bt
[16:27] <MrLaPlague> these days anyway
[16:27] <MrLaPlague> actually there are several in this room
[16:27] <jhutchins> MrLaPlague: Perhaps it would be better to learn where it gets it's keyboard settings rather than randomly formatting things.
[16:28] <MrLaPlague> what are you on about? that's not my concern at this satge
[16:28] <MrLaPlague> *stage
[16:28] <jhutchins> MrLaPlague: I had over 50 in my home at one time.  I currently manage around 250.
[16:28] <MrLaPlague> WOW
[16:28] <jhutchins> MrLaPlague: Use ssh to connect to the system.
[16:28] <MrLaPlague> ok dad can you tell me how
[16:28] <MrLaPlague> what buttons do i press?
[16:28] <jhutchins> MrLaPlague: What OS are you on?
[16:29] <MrLaPlague> the one with the penguin
[16:29] <MrLaPlague> what one is that
[16:29] <jhutchins> The problem is if it's a fresh install it's probably not running sshd...
[16:29] <MrLaPlague> you'd want to use ssh server, or boot in and mount rootfs, install sshd
[16:30] <jhutchins> MrLaPlague: What installer image do you have?  Does it have a live or rescue mode?
[16:30] <MrLaPlague> installer modes, let me see....
[16:30] <DrMog> if you need it to run sshd out of the box try something like linuxcoe to built a kickstarted auto install image with everything preconfigured
[16:30] <DrMog> drop in, have coffee walk back in half an hour and its all setup
[16:30] <MrLaPlague> ok now i am in installer menu
[16:30] <MrLaPlague> when shift is held
[16:30] <MrLaPlague> after i met the penguin
[16:31] <MrLaPlague> i see lowers ubuntu, and some menus
[16:31] <jhutchins> DrMog: The problem is that he doesn't have keyboard or mouse working onec he boots to the install.
[16:31] <MrLaPlague> or recovery mode of installed os
[16:31] <jhutchins> MrLaPlague: Give that one a try.
[16:31] <MrLaPlague> which one
[16:32] <DrMog> yeah, which is why if you build a pre packaged answer file using something like that you don't even need to hit enter, it just auto selects all your answers and then you can ssh in after the fact and get it operational
[16:32] <MrLaPlague> try ubuntu without installing, install ubuntu, check disc for defects, test memory, boot from first hard disc
[16:32] <jhutchins> MrLaPlague: Try Ubuntu...
[16:32] <MrLaPlague> jhutchins: if you can help me get ssh on here without installing ubuntu server (with then xserver )
[16:32] <DrMog> although that method is overkill
[16:33] <MrLaPlague> yeah it is
[16:33] <MrLaPlague> but he seems really sure that his 500 computers means he is correct
[16:33] <MrLaPlague> and that he is taking the most pragmatic path to the goal
[16:33] <DrMog> no I'm talking my linuxcoe method
[16:33] <MrLaPlague> i was talking about the guy who started chucking criticisms ;)
[16:33] <MrLaPlague> ur ok mog
[16:33] <MrLaPlague> ok so... what now
[16:34] <MrLaPlague> I'm checking disc for defects aparently...
[16:34] <MrLaPlague> but it appears to have hung...
[16:34] <tk1> bien le bonjour gens o/
[16:35] <tk1> sur ubuntu 12.04 LTS j'aimerais comprendre pourquoi google-chrome-stable n'est pas lancé alors que je fais un "grunt serve" dans yeoman
[16:36] <BluesKaj> !fr > tk1
[16:38] <zerowaitstate> tk1: probably better to ask the yeoman people about it
[16:39] <tk1> no prob for english :)
[16:39] <tk1> well , it seems i have an issue with google chrome in first place
[16:39] <tk1> it doesnt appear in the head up display
[16:40] <tk1> to launch it i must use the command line google-chrome-stable
[16:40] <tk1> and every time it asks me if i want it to be my default browser, and i answer yes
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> tk1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/79305/how-do-i-change-my-default-browser
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> tk1: xdg-settings set default-web-browser google-chrome.desktop
[16:45] <tk1> thanks ActionParsnip, and it seems that menu doesnt recognise google chrome, just firefox
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> tk1: use the CLI way then....
[16:47] <zerowaitstate> http://askubuntu.com/questions/13758/how-can-i-edit-create-new-launcher-items-in-unity-by-hand
[16:48] <insertcoffee> test
[16:48] <insertcoffee> test
[16:48] <insertcoffee> test
[16:49] <Pici> insertcoffee: please stop that.
[16:49] <k1l> !test > insertcoffee
[16:52] <zerowaitstate> wow, you guys have a bang command for everything
[16:54] <articsun> noo
[16:56] <diverdude> hello. i am trying to run ssh-add .ssh/id_rsa but then i get an error saying: Could not open a connection to your authentication agent. What does this mean? Do i need to specify something?
[16:59] <articsun> yo
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: to import an ssh key you mean?
[17:02] <rituraj963> how to enable hibernate option in ubuntu 12.04 lts
[17:02] <rituraj963> ?
[17:02] <diverdude> ActionParsnip: yeah
[17:03] <diverdude> ActionParsnip: it worked after i did exec ssh-agent bash for some reason
[17:03] <rituraj963> anyone there who can help me enable hibernate option in ubuntu 12.04 lts?
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: why do you need that command, you can just cat the public key to the key file on the server side
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> rituraj963: does the system have a make and model?
[17:06] <linuxuz3r> can someone help me
[17:06] <linuxuz3r> can someone help me
[17:06] <linuxuz3r> my ubuntu installation seems busted
[17:06] <rituraj963> ActionParsnip:  it's compaq presario v6211 au model
[17:07] <rituraj963> ActionParsnip: does that help you?
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> rituraj963: yes, and can you please run:  free -m   and pastebin the output
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> linuxuz3r: details please
[17:07] <rituraj963> ActionParsnip: 1 minute plz
[17:08] <linuxuz3r> ActionParsnip, my filesystem got corrupted
[17:09] <linuxuz3r> checking the filesystem takes a long time to end
[17:09] <linuxuz3r> how do i make this fast
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> linuxuz3r: run it overnight
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> linuxuz3r: speed is dependant on the hardware
[17:09] <linuxuz3r> ok reboot
[17:10] <rituraj963> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6530659/
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> rituraj963: ok you have 4Gb swap and 2Gb RAM, that's ok
[17:11] <hawa> i want to install just mp3 codec and nothing else... what is the name of package???
[17:12] <hawa> please dont suggest to install ubuntu-restricted-extras... i just want mp3 codec installed...
[17:12] <rituraj963> ActionParsnip: I don't HIBERNATE option anywhere
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> hawa: maybe gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse ?
[17:14] <almjz> hawa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> hawa: or gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> hawa: http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/ubuntu-restricted-addons shows what it pulls in
[17:14] <almjz> hawa : i guess fluendo-mp3
[17:15] <miebster_atwork> can someone help me "libqt4-dev:i386" on xubutnu 13.04 64 bit?  The package depends on one that doens't exist
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> rituraj963: does http://askubuntu.com/questions/1792/how-can-i-suspend-hibernate-from-command-line/131022#131022    work ok?
[17:15] <rituraj963> ActionParsnip: Let me give it a try
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> rituraj963: or try:   echo "mem" | sudo tee /sys/power/state
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> !info powermanagement-interface
[17:16] <aptget> hello
[17:16] <aptget> i need help
[17:17] <aptget> after upgrade to 13.01
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> aptget: do you mean 13.10?
[17:17] <aptget> yes
[17:17] <locoloco> When backing up Ubuntu for system restore purposes, is it sufficient to include:  /etc, /var, /root and /home ?
[17:17] <prashant_123456> k3b writes dvd successfully but after reinserting dvd it shows blank
[17:18] <aptget> my videocard won't work anymore
[17:18] <aptget> my mouse course is X
[17:18] <aptget> *cursor
[17:19] <hawa> ActionParsnip: tnx
[17:21] <rituraj963> ActionParsnip: I do not want to hibernate from terminal because I am newbie at linux. I want hibernate option in the top right corner power menu like we have in windows start menu
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> aptget: what GPU do you use?
[17:21] <rituraj963> ActionParsnip: let me try the other one - echo.....
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> rituraj963: i know but we need to see if it can be done
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> rituraj963: its called "exploring the issue"
[17:22] <wotan147> people I have a usb key which when i mount is drwx------  5 max  max  4096 Jan  1  1970 disk/
[17:23] <Eisroman> hey guys! why i cant connetc to debian servers?
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> wotan147: ok.....well that's your username, is there an issue
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Eisroman: ask in #debian
[17:23] <wotan147> if I sudo chmod -R 775 /media/max/disk/  if says it  can be changed because only readable
[17:23] <Eisroman> what is +i set mode?
[17:23] <kryto> good day!
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> wotan147: is it an NTFS partition?
[17:23] <mdh> Eisroman: you mean you can't connect to debian servers, and you can connect to other servers?
[17:24] <Eisroman> yes
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Eisroman: then the access needs setting at mount time
[17:24] <Eisroman> ok
[17:24] <wotan147> ActionParsnip:  acutally I have dismounted and remounted and now it is working but just before it was mounted as if it belongs to root and then impossible to change it
[17:24] <Eisroman> tnks
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Eisroman: NTFS is too primitive to store Linux ACLs so chmod will do nothing
[17:24] <rituraj963> the echo command suggested - looks like worked as sleep or suspend mode
[17:24] <cgt> Can anyone recommend a good tutorial on setting up a LUKS-encrypted partition?
[17:24] <linuxuz3r> takes a long time to check disk
[17:25] <wotan147> ActionParsnip: I guess so it is a USB key and that tis readable under windows. And it is not FAT
[17:25] <gordonjcp> linuxuz3r: what's the filesystem, and how big is the disk?
[17:25] <linuxuz3r> gordonjcp: its ext3 and 300gb
[17:25] <cgt> !luks
[17:26] <gordonjcp> linuxuz3r: how is it connected?
[17:26] <linuxuz3r> i dont know what you mean by how it is connected
[17:27] <wotan147> now I have a file in there -rw-r--r--  1 max max       89 Dez  6 18:25 sync.ffs_lock
[17:27] <linuxuz3r> sata
[17:27] <linuxuz3r> sata 1
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> wotan147: is this a usb stick?
[17:27] <wotan147> if i rm it , it says not possible the filesystem is only readable
[17:27] <wotan147> yes
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> wotan147: when you unplug it, do you use the safe remove feature before you unplug it?
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> wotan147: or do you just rip it out?
[17:28] <wotan147> possibly not
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> wotan147: then that's why
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> wotan147: why do you think that feature exists?
[17:29] <milapurr> heyo.
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> wotan147: plug it into Windows, run a chkdsk on it so youy know the storage is consistant, then safely remove the device in Windows then unplug it
[17:29] <wotan147> Because computer people can't make it easy ^^ Basically it is just a fucking key where i store document. so there should existe a way where I force it to not care about thos fuckong permissions
[17:29] <milapurr> How do I get qjoypad to work?
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> wotan147: you'll probably find it works, now that you are using your hardware properly
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> wotan147: it will mount properly if you use your hardware properly
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> wotan147: NTFS is proprietary to Microsoft. The access you have is due to LOTS of work but it is not 100% asd ONLY microsoft know the finer points
[17:30] <wotan147> But if you use freefilesync, and freefilesync fails during the sync, you will also have such problem ;)
[17:30] <john_doe_jr> I'm getting a dependencies problem and need some advice…does 'mono(Mono.Posix) = 2.0.0.0 is needed by x package' mean that I specially need mono —version 2?
[17:31] <wotan147> I know...
[17:31] <Guest9939> hi whats up hw i use youtube it not work ?
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> wotan147: yes because the NTFS is not unmouted from the last use properly as you are not using the safe removal
[17:31] <milapurr> Huh this is weird.
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> Guest9939: install ubuntu-restrivted-extras and you are done, or use minitube
[17:34] <Guest9939> ok i try that thaks
[17:34] <shagelit1> Greetings,#Ubuntu. I folowed a tutorial to instal a proper wine install. It started by running this comand sudo apt-get remove --purge wine*. In return, i got (sigh ...) this http://pastebin.com/nJv4rN9Q. Does what i think actually happend ?
[17:36] <gordonjcp> shagelit1: "expression rationelle" == "regular expression"?
[17:36] <milapurr> Anyone know how to install qjoypad? Minecontrol doesnt seem to work...
[17:37] <shagelit1> gordonjcp: affirmative
[17:38] <shagelit1> gordonjcp: please confirm im over-fuc*ed
[17:38] <gordonjcp> shagelit1: not sure
[17:38] <gordonjcp> did it say it was actually uninstalling all that?
[17:39] <shagelit1> its a purge process so i think so
[17:39] <shagelit1> letme check
[17:40] <kryto> I love my Ubuntu2
[17:40] <jwal> Hi.  I am trying to setup a non-interactive install of roundcube from the debs.  It is all working - using debconf-set-selections - except I am being prompted for a password.  I just have to hit enter for it to continue (using pgsql ident).  Can somebody help me debug what is happening?
[17:40] <shagelit1> im going to googletrad you the main things as im not quite sure by myself
[17:41] <aptget> screen irssi
[17:41] <kryto> all mine
[17:41] <qfxCN> hi
[17:44] <shagelit2> gordonjcp: http://pastebin.com/VgDrnrSv
[17:44] <Hassen> hello
[17:44] <Hassen> given that my partition table is this one:  http://s27.postimg.org/4vrgibyxv/Capture.png
[17:45] <Hassen> will extending E: thanks to the unallocated spaces ruin the dual boot of my win7 with ubuntu?  (blue:ubuntu OS; red:main win7 OS; black:swap for ubuntu; green:win7 sys reserved; )
[17:46] <asdadfa> it shouldn't
[17:47] <kryto> u think thats a issue, we loaded ubuntu 13.4 on a acer 2012 laptop, frooze the BIOS up like a tight hole in hell
[17:47] <Hassen> asdadfa, in the other hand,'merging' E: with 1 of the unallocated spaces will ruin the dual boot,as the software mentioned here
[17:48] <Guest9939> what do debugger do?
[17:50] <locoloco> Guest9939: http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/
[17:51] <kryto> i love my Ubuntu2
[17:54] <locoloco> kryto: seconded!
[17:55] <kryto> yaw, we love our Ubuntu2
[17:56] <kryto> wish it would serve coffee tho
[17:57] <kryto> we were using that Fedora Core for the longest time
[17:57] <kryto> somewhat simular
[17:57] <Kane_Hart> Hello, I woke up and noticed my server had been rebooted. Seems that ubuntu crashed over night and I was wondering if anyone could tell me what I can do to try to see what actually happen.
[17:57] <locoloco> kryto: http://www.ctcinternational.org/cafeubuntu
[17:57] <kryto> dunka
[18:01] <kryto> locoloco<<< my house?
[18:02] <kryto> excellent coffee joint, i'l smoke to that
[18:03] <jay> .
[18:03] <toni54321> hi
[18:04] <kryto> I Love my Ubuntu2
[18:05] <jay> i need install flashplayer on xubuntu 10.10
[18:05] <toni54321> now i insert the dvd for installing ubuntu and select the opsion install and boot laiter but nothing hapen, now i am waiting
[18:06] <mas> hello
[18:06] <mas> guys... how to locate file?
[18:07] <toni54321> now i insert the dvd for installing ubuntu and select the opsion install and boot laiter but nothing hapen, now i am waiting
[18:08] <toni54321> now i insert the dvd for installing ubuntu and select the opsion install and boot laiter but nothing hapen, now i am waiting
[18:08] <hggdh> mas: many ways. One that will probably work (given the lack of details on your question) is: find / -name fileName 2>/dev/null
[18:08] <kryto> dont wait 2 long
[18:09] <kryto> i made money on it already
[18:09] <kryto> LOL
[18:09] <mas> thank hggdh
[18:09] <toni54321> kryto what sugest too me
[18:09] <toni54321> ?
[18:09] <toni54321> kryto what sugest too me?
[18:09] <toni54321> now i insert the dvd for installing ubuntu and select the opsion install and boot laiter but nothing hapen, now i am waiting
[18:10] <kryto> I recover data from corrupt hd
[18:10] <kryto> very good
[18:10] <toni54321> now i insert the dvd for installing ubuntu and select the opsion install and boot laiter but nothing hapen, now i am waiting
[18:12] <kryto> toni<<< sounds like u may have no good disk
[18:12] <Conker> good evening people, i got some trouble installing 32bit librarys in ubuntu 10.04 64 bit, could someone help me?
[18:13] <toni54321> i kryto i bern it westerda, this is the secon disc thet i burn
[18:13] <kryto> i had same issues
[18:14] <eminor> hi
[18:14] <eminor> !ask Conker
[18:14] <kryto> keep burning iso untill you get correct
[18:14] <Conker> hey eminor, what's ask do :P
[18:14] <kryto> 32bit seems 2 wrk good
[18:15] <toni54321> i havve 64 bit
[18:15] <Pessimist> toni54321, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[18:15] <kryto> i had that stall issues with 64bit version
[18:16] <kryto> I love Ubuntu2, my favorite distro
[18:16] <eminor> Conker: advice the bot to give you information about asking questions, but i was doing it wrong :-)
[18:16] <kryto> my little brother uses Arch
[18:16] <Pessimist> !offtopic
[18:17] <kryto> were a linux family
[18:17] <kryto> yaw
[18:17] <Conker> so how do i ask questions correctly?^^
[18:17] <Conker> !ask
[18:18] <eminor> !patience
[18:18] <kryto> we wood like to throw vindoes out the window, but we have uses for it still
[18:18] <kryto> :)
[18:18] <msafi> Hi! Anyone know what this command does? "echo -n 250 > /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/sensitivity"
[18:19] <Pessimist> msafi, writes 250 without a \n at the end of it to that file
[18:19] <msafi> Pessimist: and what's the file?
[18:20] <Pici> msafi: its not an actual file, its an interface to your kernel, it represents a setting for some device.
[18:21] <noise> i believe i8042 is ps2 port
[18:21] <locoloco> msafi: http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~baker/devices/lxr/http/source/linux/drivers/input/serio/i8042.c
[18:21] <Pessimist> msafi, askubuntu.com says it's the sensitivity of a thinkpad's trackpoint: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37824/what-is-the-best-way-to-configure-a-thinkpads-trackpoint
[18:22] <msafi> Yeah, it actually adjusts the pointing device on the thinkpad and it works well. But now I want to change the sensitivity of the pointing device on the external keyboard too. How can I find the equivelant command for the external pointing device?!!
[18:23] <msafi> Like if I change some of the strings in that command, it'll actually point to my external keyboard rather than the laptop's own keyboard...I hope that makes snese?
[18:24] <Pessimist> msafi, pointing device on a keyboard? Well, for start you should google / tell us the name of the device
[18:24] <msafi> Pessimist: ThinkPad External Keyboard (which has a TrackPoint which is used as a mouse)
[18:26] <jjavaholic> what software do you suggest to use to use DVB-T usb device?
[18:27] <wallzero> Greetings. How can I set the window key to cycle between workspaces in XFCE?
[18:28] <Pessimist> msafi, https://github.com/bseibold/tpkbdctl looks like this tool should do the job
[18:28] <Pessimist> msafi, maybe it is in ubuntu repositories -- I don't know. You could try searching for similar software in ubuntu repos with 'apt-cache search <>'
[18:30] <msafi> Pessimist: thank you so much!
[18:30] <makk> okay thankyou for your time.. i am updating ubuntu now i will use deja dup backup tool my question what safe local folder can i save to that will not be effected if sh1t hits the fan
[18:31] <Pessimist> msafi, I got this information from here: http://linux-thinkpad.10952.n7.nabble.com/Changing-sensitivity-ThinkPad-USB-Keyboard-with-TrackPoint-td18067.html#a18073.
[18:31] <Leon_Nardella> How am I supposed to quit lxc-start login screen and go back to the host's shell?
[18:32] <linuxuz3r> hi
[18:32] <linuxuz3r> how do i recover my password in ubuntu
[18:33] <unknownguy> Hello there am I supposed to look for help about ubuntu troubleshooting in here?
[18:33] <Pessimist> makk, if you have different / and /home partitions then probably /home. But the most safe option would be to save it in a external location
[18:34] <linuxuz3r> how do i recover my password in ubuntu?
[18:34] <Pessimist> linuxuz3r, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery#Lost_Password or you can boot into recovery mode and use 'passwd'
[18:35] <locoloco> unknownguy: what are you looking to troubleshoot?
[18:35] <wad> I'm trying to make a startup disk out of a thumb drive. I got it to work the other day, but in trying it again, the startup disk creator program (under Ubunt 12.10) keeps crashing on me, when it gets to the last step, where it writes the boot information.
[18:35] <Pessimist> !ask | unknownguy
[18:35] <wad> I've tried to thumb drives so far.
[18:35] <wad> s/to/two/
[18:36] <wad> I've tried erasing the partition with gparted, too.
[18:36] <msafi> Pessimist: the GitHub page of the package says to run this command "fakeroot debian/rules binary"
[18:36] <msafi> Pessimist: , but I don't have anything called fakeroot...
[18:36] <wad> Is there a way to blank out the boot sector stuff on this thing? Does removing the partition also remove the MBR, or whatever it is that makes it bootable?
[18:36] <Pessimist> wad, unetbootin can have bugs. You are best off using dd if=<location to iso> of=<location to usb>. Tutorial here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/USB_Flash_Installation_Media#In_GNU.2FLinux
[18:36] <makk> i dont  know how to use bash sadly i dont have partitions on the harddrive . home folder. (i said that so you know that i have no idea what front slash space means. but i will save it to /home and thankyou BTW more power to you for the help
[18:37] <wad> Pessimist, thanks! I'll check that out.
[18:38] <Pessimist> wad, you can remove the bs=4M and && sync parts (I think because I have ever used them and it works)
[18:38] <wad> ok
[18:40] <trism> !info fakeroot | msafi
[18:40] <Pessimist> msafi, get linux headers: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) then get git: sudo apt-get install git. Then create a directory somewhere you can write f.e. ~/tpkbdctl. Then cd to it: cd ~/tpkbdctl. Clone the repo: git clone https://github.com/bseibold/tpkbdctl.git and run: make && sudo make install
[18:41] <makk> peace in the middle east.
[18:41] <bsmith093> i have a hp2530p with a dead hd, and its bootable from an sd card so i tired that, it was working fine, with the entire system on the sdcard (16GB, class 10) then it just randomly locked up completely, and now it wont boot?
[18:42] <bsmith093> is there a way to make a System-on-an-sd-card type setup? so i can move it from system to system, without it complaining?
[18:42] <Pessimist> makk, use lsblk and see if you have different partitions for / and /home. Then the safest place to save files would be ~/ or if not then it doesn't matter. If something bad happens you can always boot from livecd and copy the files you want somewhere else and reinstall the whole os (if that's what you want)
[18:43] <joelwhitehouse> bsmith093, SD cards are prone to corruption because of all the IO.
[18:43] <Ionut-> hello, how to limit access on ps command to user to see only own process running?
[18:43] <bsmith093> joelwhitehouse: it was brand new
[18:44] <Pessimist> bsmith093, maybe something wrong went with the sd card? Unetbootin has the option to add 'empty' space to Ubuntu on a SD card. What I mean by that is that you can select how much space you want to use that doesn't disappear if you turn it off from an SD
[18:44] <Skaag> anyone here running saucy and able to install openjdk?
[18:44] <Skaag> it fails for me
[18:44] <joelwhitehouse> My company does embedded development--sometimes we buy a dozen SD cards and see most of them fail.
[18:45] <yeats> Skaag: can you pastebin the error messages you're getting?
[18:45] <bsmith093> the hd is availible from ebay as an apple ipod hardrive, should i just get one of those, 1.8 in 4200rpm 20gb brand new
[18:45] <Skaag> it's two lines, can I paste here?
[18:45] <bsmith093> how do i tell if the card is truly dead
[18:45] <yeats> Skaag: pastebin is preferred
[18:45] <Pessimist> bsmith093, there's a scroll bar at the bottom: "space to be used to preserve files across reboots (Ubuntu only" in unetbootin
[18:46] <joelwhitehouse> bsmith093, an HD is going to be more reliable.
[18:46] <joelwhitehouse> bsmith093, have you tried reformatting the SD card?
[18:46] <bsmith093> can i edit a live cd install, like add packages to it, and have them persist
[18:46] <Pessimist> bsmith093, http://askubuntu.com/questions/277848/damaged-sd-card-badly-unmounted-how-to-fix
[18:47] <yeats> !liveusb | bsmith093 - the principles should be the same
[18:47] <bsmith093> joelwhitehouse:  i really dont want to, if i can avoid it, its a half full 16 gb card, it'll take hours to reinstall everything
[18:48] <joelwhitehouse> bsmith093, sounds like fsck could be of use.
[18:48] <joelwhitehouse> There are a couple of failure modes for SD cards--physical damage, or logical corruption.
[18:49] <joelwhitehouse> If you're storing lots of files, you can make your card last longer by mounting /home and any other frequently-written storage on a separate USB drive.
[18:50] <joelwhitehouse> That will help your SD card's longevity and reduce the risk of corruption.
[18:50] <joelwhitehouse> If your SD card is just corrupt, fsck could help resolve the issue.
[18:52] <msafi> Can I install Google Chrome through apt-get?
[18:52] <bruce> I've been running 12.04 but during the last update, something happened to Gnome and now I can't do anything. (Blinking cursor). Can I just refresh the OS from a CD?
[18:53] <Pessimist> msafi, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/chromium-browser/
[18:53] <Rakholl> Hello, I could use some advice, my distribution upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 is stuck, has said Downloading Dropbox... 79% for a good while now, getting strange spikes of network upload traffic, blocking all other activity
[18:53] <kiwi_> bruce, are you sure you didnt run out of disk space?
[18:54] <msafi> Pessimist: Chromium is different from Chrome right?
[18:54] <Pessimist> msafi, there is a table: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome
[18:54] <Rakholl> Ctrl+C may leave the system in a broken state, so I haven't resorted to that yet
[18:55] <bruce> I don't think so, but it's possible.  I can't get in as a terminal either.
[18:55] <kiwi_> msafi, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/new-chromium-stable-and-development.html
[18:56] <bruce> I suppose booting from CD will let me "df" the harddrive.  Right?
[18:56] <kiwi_> bruce, cant you boot into recovery mode?
[18:56] <Wiz_KeeD> hallooo
[18:56] <kiwi_> yes
[18:57] <Wiz_KeeD> guys thanks again for your help :D
[18:57] <msafi> I'm downloading .deb file for Google Chrome
[18:57] <OerHeks> have fun Wiz_KeeD
[18:57] <Wiz_KeeD> yeah having now...installing ubuntu
[18:57] <kiwi_> bruce, check if you didnt run out of disk space. if so, delete some files and reboot.
[18:57] <Wiz_KeeD> Let's see what happens now with the bumblebee shizzle
[18:58] <bruce> L
[18:58] <bruce> K
[18:58] <Rakholl> I guess all my options may leave the system broken if I decide to force things, but I really don't know what else to do
[18:59] <Conker> i think my installed ubuntu 10.04 is missing the i386 files, is there a common source to get them from?
[18:59] <schultza> Thanks to Rory, Beldar, et al for helping me with my do-release-upgrade issues. It was the packages I installed from that "xorg-edgers-ppa"
[18:59] <JesseH> So I'm on 12.04 and I created a new user, and now tab completion isn't working in xchat. Any ideas? :P
[19:00] <JesseH> One cannot IRC without tab completion
[19:00] <Pessimist> Rakholl, if it got stuck at *downloading* updates and you cancel it it shouldn't break the system *I think*. I would reboot the OS and run the upgrade command from terminal
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> JesseH: try the xchat channel
[19:01] <JesseH> MonkeyDust, they were not any help.
[19:01] <JesseH> I figure this is an ubuntu issue, not an xchat issue
[19:01] <JesseH> Wondering if anyone else has had the issue
[19:01] <Wiz_KeeD> eheyyy the wirelsss drivers work out of the box
[19:01] <Wiz_KeeD> !!
[19:02] <Wiz_KeeD> no more broadcom nightmare with bugs and stuff
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> JesseH: does tab completion wotk in a terminal or other irc client?
[19:03] <JesseH> MonkeyDust its working in terminal, havent tested any other clients yet, but ill do that now
[19:03] <Skaag> yeats, http://pastie.org/8533948
[19:03] <JesseH> MonkeyDust i had an openbox error or something recently, might be related :P
[19:05] <makk> back again ... anyhow : im updating ubuntu now after i backed up to my /home/(user) folder, hope that works as good as the home folder it wouldnt let me save to home for permissions. i suppose i could try to login as root. im hoping that doesnt matter though if it does please let me know. next is should i just choose every update all 512 updatesgh.
[19:06] <makk> because im acutally gonna update then update the version then update again since im with 12.4 now
[19:07] <Troy^> makk: are you asking a question?
[19:08] <Wiz_KeeD> uhm...
[19:08] <Wiz_KeeD> i install ubuntu next to windows and now it booted directly in windows...no grub
[19:08] <Wiz_KeeD> wtf
[19:08] <makk> yea should i do all 512 checks for the update. will that be too much is it unneccessary
[19:09] <kryto> maybe change your boot up sequence
[19:09] <cgt> I accidentially wiped the partition table on a harddrive. I had a TrueCrypt volume on the drive and it was mounted (and still is) when it happened. The mounted TrueCrypt volume still works, but I'm afraid of what will happen once I dismount it. How can I recover the partition table?
[19:09] <Wiz_KeeD> did it install it on the usb drive or what...
[19:10] <kryto> I love My Ubuntu2, please master dont take it away
[19:11] <ner0x> Anyone know any GTK based PDF form-generator programs excluding {open,libre}office ?
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[19:12] <cgt> Analysing the drive with testdisk. Hope it works.
[19:12] <Qarry> Hmm, I can't get to certain ips, github being one of them
[19:12] <Qarry> I can resolve the ip associated with the domain name fine, I just can't reach them, if I ping or traceroute it says it's unreachable
[19:13] <cgt> maybe your ISP is at fault
[19:13] <Qarry> cgt, hmm, could be.
[19:13] <Qarry> We'll see if it passes
[19:13] <Qarry> Well, let me check on another machine
[19:14] <jan> hi
[19:14] <jan> do you speak german
[19:14] <Qarry> Probably the ips yeah, it also doesn't work on the win7 machine downstairs
[19:15] <cgt> !de | Guest16112
[19:15] <Qarry> Guest69055, klar
[19:15] <sipior2> ner0x: is gtk a hard requirement? i seem to recall that scribus can do that sort of thing.
[19:15] <Guest16112> ok
[19:15] <Qarry> Cool
[19:15] <Qarry> !fi | Qarry
[19:16] <Guest16112> here it smells
[19:16] <Qarry> Wowww, it even shields against investigation, what a good bot
[19:16] <Guest16112> how are you
[19:16] <cgt> !offtopic | Guest16112
[19:16] <articsun> !cookie Guest16112
[19:16] <Guest42558> You don't have any cookies to give!
[19:16] <articsun> :P
[19:17] <Guest16112> how are you
[19:17] <articsun> good
[19:17] <Guest16112> cool
[19:17] <articsun> Though this is assort chat
[19:17] <articsun> :)
[19:17] <articsun> support
[19:17] <cgt> Please take offtopic chat elsewehre
[19:17] <cgt> elsewhere*
[19:17] <Guest16112> why isn't skype in the software center???
[19:18] <cgt> Probably because it is proprietary software
[19:18] <Pessimist> Guest16112, add 'partner' software repositories in ubuntu software center
[19:18] <Guest16112> oh okay
[19:18] <makk> so let me clarify . i will update the 512 items checked, then i will go from 12.04 to 12.10 then i will go from 12.10 to 13.04. is this okay are there any unneccessary steps i can avoid.  then my next question instead of the home folder i backed up to my user folder within my home folder will that work. in case i need to revert back in case
[19:18] <Skaag> Guest16112, better use IRC, far more advanced than Skype, and it's in the software center.
[19:18] <cgt> Skaag: That's an outright lie
[19:18] <Guest16112> IRC?
[19:18] <cgt> IRC is very simple
[19:18] <cgt> Guest16112: this is IRC
[19:18] <Skaag> cgt, it's a joke :)
[19:19] <ainx> so... i was reinstall ubuntu 13.04
[19:19] <msafi> I downloaded a .deb file for Google Chrome. Could someone please tell me how to install it?
[19:19] <ainx> lol
[19:19] <Pessimist> makk, yes... just do a fresh install and save yourself from package breakages
[19:19] <Skaag> msafi, dpkg -i yourpackage.deb
[19:19] <cgt> I usually use gedbi
[19:19] <cgt> gdebi
[19:19] <DuncanNZ> msafi: or just double click it in your downloads folder
[19:19] <makk> thankyou and thats why you strongly urge a external backup but i dont have the hardware for that. eek. perhaps an ubuntu cloud account is easy to setup?
[19:20] <Guest16112> yeah
[19:20] <Qarry> lol, these translations in differentr languages are not translations, is the Dutch version supposed to say 'Dutch support for ubuntu (and hot coffee) is to be found at #ubuntu.nl'
[19:20] <msafi> Skaag, DuncanNZ thanks!
[19:21] <makk> plus id have to burn a cd eek
[19:21] <Myrtti> Qarry: probably.
[19:21] <msafi> See you guys from Chrome!
[19:23] <Qarry> Myrtti, well, just wondering if the Dutch translator didn't let an easter egg slip by that wasn't supposed to.
[19:23] <Myrtti> Qarry: nobody claimed them to be translations... they're what they are
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> Qarry: only the Dutch note has that little coffee joke
[19:24] <Janeks991> hello, I installed openssh on xubuntu 12.04
[19:24] <Janeks991> I can't connect to it using ssh username@ipadress
[19:24] <Janeks991> I have set Port 2222 in sshd_config
[19:25] <sipior2> Janeks991: set the port using the -p switch on the client
[19:25] <Skaag> anyone with saucy and able to install openjdk? it fails for me
[19:25] <Skaag> I just upgraded yesterday, now I regret upgrading
[19:26] <Janeks991> sipior give full command?
[19:27] <sipior> Janeks991: ssh -p 2222 ...
[19:29] <Janeks991> ssh: Could not resolve hostname switch: Name or service not known
[19:29] <msafi> Do you guys recommend an IRC client for Ubuntu?
[19:30] <Skaag> msafi, irssi
[19:30] <Skaag> a bit more to learn, but very rewarding
[19:30] <Myrtti> msafi: there's several different types of IRC clients, which one is best for you depends on your needs.
[19:30] <Skaag> 100% keyboard operated
[19:30] <msafi> I think I prefer one with a GUI
[19:31] <largo> i use xchat which is fine for me
[19:31] <Skaag> you lamer, use xchat or pidgin I guess
[19:31] <Skaag> :)
[19:31] <kryto> doesnt BitchX wrky on here
[19:31] <Myrtti> msafi: most common ones are xchat, irssi, quassel, weechat, and some even use pidgin or empathy
[19:31] <kryto> Xchat seems to be stable
[19:31] <Skaag> I find pidgin is decent for people who are scared of text heavy screens
[19:31] <Myrtti> kryto: sure it works, why anyone would use it is a different matter
[19:31] <msafi> Skaag: maybe someday I'll move to irrsi :)
[19:32] <msafi> irssi*
[19:32] <kryto> rof
[19:32] <msafi> Myrtti: empathy comes preinstalled right?
[19:32] <toni54321> hi all, 20 minits ago i finish for the first timi the instalation of ubuntu in dual with windows 7, but now i have a problem, whwn i restart the machine and selekt ubuntu he dont lunch, weit for a moment end apear the sam riten wards "wheitit to lunch ubunto" or some thing else, i dont now ahat tu doo
[19:32] <Myrtti> Skaag: also limited in IRC support and depending on what IRC 'extensions' you add, somewhat questionable
[19:32] <kryto> Xchat works good
[19:32] <Skaag> xchat is kind of a de-facto client I guess
[19:33] <Myrtti> msafi: yes, but I wouldn't really recommend either pidgin nor empathy if you plan to invest time on IRC for other than occasional plea of help here
[19:33] <Skaag> stable, reasonable features, etc.
[19:33] <toni54321> hi all, 20 minits ago i finish for the first time the instalation of ubuntu in dual with windows 7, but now i have a problem, whwn i restart the machine and selekt ubuntu he dont lunch, weit for a moment end apear the sam riten wards "wheitit to lunch ubunto" or some thing else, i dont now ahat tu doo
[19:33] <SonikkuAmerica> There's always Quassel (use the quassel-qt4 package to avoid pulling in KDE)
[19:33] <kryto> there are others like he said
[19:33] <Skaag> and with xchat, many features are hidden in text commands, there is no way to get to them from the GUI
[19:33] <Skaag> but one you read the docs, you can get tot hem
[19:33] <Skaag> to them
[19:34] <msafi> Okay, let me try to login with empathy.
[19:34] <Skaag> I think my saucy upgrade went bonkers
[19:34] <Skaag> I can't install quassel-qt4
[19:35] <Skaag> what a major screwup
[19:35] <Skaag> :)
[19:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Skaag: No? What happens?
[19:35] <Skaag> I just upgraded last night, there were no errors/warnings, it all seemed fine
[19:35] <Skaag> I have some problem with pulseaudio
[19:35] <akhil_> Hi everyone I am trying to loadbalance two pppoe connections.
[19:35] <Skaag>  trying to overwrite shared '/etc/pulse/client.conf', which is different from other instances of package libpulse0:amd64
[19:36] <Skaag> I don't know why I have two instances of libpulse0
[19:36] <toni54321> hi all, 20 minits ago i finish for the first time the modest instalation of ubuntu in dual with windows 7, but now i have a problem, whwn i restart the machine and selekt ubuntu he dont lunch, weit for a moment end apear the sam riten wards "wheitit to lunch ubunto" or some thing else, i dont now ahat tu doo
[19:36] <akhil_> I have used the nexthop method to loadbalance  between the interfaces.
[19:37] <SonikkuAmerica> toni54321: I don't think we can understand what you're saying... what is your native language?
[19:37] <akhil_> When I check speedtest.net I can see that the speed has doubled, and also the same is reflected in ifconfig, where both interfaces are used,
[19:37] <Skaag> ok I purged the :i386 version, donno why it was even installed, it's a 64bit system
[19:38] <akhil_> but for all other uses , load balancing doesn't occur and all traffic goes through the same interface.
[19:38] <toni54321> ok n trying too re write
[19:38] <akhil_> please help, what might be the issue.
[19:39] <SonikkuAmerica> toni54321: We understand so far you finished installing Ubuntu in a dual-boot situation with Windows 7... but you're saying that Ubuntu isn't *launching on restart?
[19:39] <Skaag> ok installed quassel, trying it out
[19:39] <akhil_> Also I tried to use equalize in loadbalancing and I got the error, 'either to is duplicate or equalize is a garbage'
[19:39] <toni54321> yessssssss
[19:39] <Janeks991> ssh username@ipadress gives connection refused at port 222
[19:39] <Janeks991> 22 *
[19:40] <toni54321> what can i do???????????
[19:40] <akhil_> !loadbalance
[19:40] <akhil_> !bondig
[19:40] <akhil_> !bonding
[19:40] <msafi311> How do I uninstall Empathy?
[19:40] <sipior> Janeks991: ssh -p 2222 username@ip
[19:41] <SonikkuAmerica> toni54321: And the system *waits for a moment and the *same *written *words "Whether to launch Ubuntu" appear? (Or possibly a menu with the Ubuntu logo and 5 or 6 options?)
[19:41] <ainx> i want ask something :/
[19:42] <Janeks991> still connection refused
[19:42] <sipior> Janeks991: is there ah ssh daemon running?
[19:42] <SonikkuAmerica> toni54321: What did you use to install Ubuntu, a DVD or USB stick? Whatever it was, try removing it and rebooting.
[19:42] <ainx> why unity panel not responsive with autohide panel? on raring
[19:42] <toni54321> dvd
[19:43] <SonikkuAmerica> toni54321: OK, remove the DVD and restart the computer.
[19:43] <Janeks991> sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[19:43] <toni54321> yes i made that
[19:43] <Janeks991> ssh start/running, process 3299
[19:43] <toni54321> indous work good
[19:43] <toni54321> windows work good
[19:44] <SonikkuAmerica> toni54321: So you took the DVD out of the computer and restarted, and what happens then?
[19:44] <Rakholl> Pessimist: Cheers, the system did not break. The upload spikes still continue, though
[19:44] <Rakholl> I'm trying to find out what is creating them
[19:44] <SonikkuAmerica> msafi311: [ sudo apt-get remove empathy ]
[19:44] <akhil_> Hi everyone I am trying to loadbalance traffic across two interfaces, by adding two default routes with a nexthop option., But when I use the equalize flag, I get the error. 'either to is duplicate or equalize is a garbage'
[19:45] <toni54321> apears the osions "ubuntu advanced ubuntu and windows luncher" i select ubuntu and apear some words in black scren
[19:45] <sipior> Janeks991: did you change the default listen port for the daemon (22)?
[19:46] <largo> luncher? =)
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> akhil_: in ubuntu?
[19:47] <Janeks991> sipior I tried that command on host server and it doesn't wokr
[19:47] <SonikkuAmerica> toni54321: Some words appear? Do you remember what they are?
[19:47] <toni54321> no now no
[19:47] <sipior> Janeks991: i got that part. did you change the default listen port?
[19:47] <Eli-5dce_Busy> articsun?
[19:47] <dantxo> Hello
[19:48] <SonikkuAmerica> toni54321: Write what you see and then copy it here.
[19:48] <dantxo> Is there a way not to start nginx server automatically? I would like to start it manually when needed
[19:48] <toni54321> ok
[19:49] <Janeks991> Dec  6 21:43:00 janis-priedaine sshd[3299]: Server listening on :: port 2222.
[19:49] <Janeks991> sipior
[19:50] <A1Recon> Can someone tell me why the Arduino IDE on my Ubuntu 13.04 is in version 1.0.3 and is not updated?
[19:51] <sipior> Janeks991: please report the output of the command "sudo netstat -antup | grep ssh" (sanitise the ip address if you want)
[19:51] <SonikkuAmerica> A1Recon: What you see is what was packaged at freeze time.
[19:51] <Janeks991> ssh
[19:51] <Janeks991> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:2222            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      3299/sshd
[19:51] <Janeks991> tcp6       0      0 :::2222                 :::*                    LISTEN      3299/sshd
[19:51] <physicist> Greetings, I'm back.
[19:52] <A1Recon> SonikkuAmerica: IS there a way to update it?
[19:52] <sipior> Janeks991: and the command "ssh -p 2222 ..." reports connection refused?
[19:52] <SonikkuAmerica> A1Recon: You can see if there's a .deb or a PPA
[19:53] <physicist> I'd like to update my 3.12 serie kernel. Should I uninstall my amd driver before do it and install later?
[19:53] <A1Recon> SonikkuAmerica: There's a tar file that i downloaded....
[19:53] <A1Recon> from the Arduino site....
[19:53] <Janeks991> ssh -p 2222 janis@87.110.53.116
[19:53] <Janeks991> ssh: connect to host 87.110.53.116 port 2222: Connection refused
[19:53] <SonikkuAmerica> A1Recon: Extract and compile it
[19:54] <A1Recon> OK
[19:54] <A1Recon> Thanks!!
[19:56] <sipior> Janeks991: you're quite sure the ip address you specify corresponds to the machine running the ssh daemon?
[19:56] <sipior> Janeks991: try connecting to "localhost"
[19:56] <physicist> I'd like to update my 3.12 serie kernel. Should I uninstall my amd driver before do it and install later?
[19:58] <DJones> Janeks991: Are you connecting to machine at another location via the internet, or to a machine on your own internal network, if its an internal network, try connecting to the internal ip address of the machine rather than the public internet address, I'm guessing that will be a 192.168.0.x ip address
[19:58] <sipior> physicist: is the driver handled through dkms?
[19:59] <physicist> sipior: I do not know. I just had installed .deb packages.
[19:59] <physicist> sipior: Probably, yes.
[20:00] <sipior> physicist: it will likely be taken care of for you, in the event. or were you going to build the kernel yourself?
[20:01] <Janeks991>  ssh -p 2222 janis@87.110.53.166
[20:01] <Janeks991> ssh: connect to host 87.110.53.166 port 2222: Connection timed out
[20:01] <sipior> Janeks991: try "ssh -p 2222 janis@localhost"
[20:01] <physicist> no, sipior. I will follow these instructions: http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-kernel-3-12-3-on-ubuntu-linux-mint-pear-os-and-elementary-os/ - to install the latest 3.12 series kernel.
[20:02] <Janeks991> ssh: connect to host localhost port 2222: Connection refused
[20:02] <sipior> Janeks991: first things first. revert the ssh port to its default. remove one variable here.
[20:03] <Troy^> did you restart the ssh server?
[20:04] <syeekick> what graphics card drivers for best performance should i use for the hd 6850/ im running 12.10 64bit
[20:05] <physicist> sipior: Do you understand?
[20:05] <sipior> physicist: i did.
[20:05] <xangua> physicist: you are aware that you are not only using packages that will no recieve any further security updates, but also don't incluide the ubuntu specific patches and also are for testing and not daily use?
[20:06] <SonikkuAmerica> toni54321: Are you still there?
[20:06] <physicist> http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-kernel-3-12-3-on-ubuntu-linux-mint-pear-os-and-elementary-os/
[20:06] <Janeks991> ok I changed /etc/ssh/sshd_config, and set port to 22
[20:06] <toni54321> yes
[20:06] <sipior> Janeks991: restart the daemon.
[20:06] <Janeks991> ssh start/running, process 3736
[20:07] <toni54321> the problem is that i havw g-force nvidia graphic card
[20:07] <sipior> Janeks991: and if you try to connect?
[20:07] <Janeks991> connection times out
[20:08] <sipior> Janeks991: what command are you using?
[20:08] <Janeks991> ssh username@ipadress
[20:08] <sipior> Janeks991: try adding a -vvv there.
[20:08] <physicist> xangua: yes, I am. I'm already running over 3.11 series kernel and it brought many fixies. My system works perfectly.
[20:08] <bekks> Janeks991: Listening to ipv4 and ipv6?
[20:08] <sipior> physicist: if it works perfectly...
[20:10] <physicist> sipior: yes. So, the only doubt is: install kernel if amd driver installed have any 'danger' of 'damage' or something?
[20:11] <SonikkuAmerica> toni54321: So what message on a black screen does Ubuntu give you when you start it?
[20:11] <sipior> physicist: no, not really.
[20:11] <Janeks991> OpenSSH_5.9p1 Debian-5ubuntu1.1, OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012
[20:11] <Janeks991> debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[20:11] <Janeks991> debug1: /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 19: Applying options for *
[20:11] <Janeks991> debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0
[20:11] <Janeks991> debug1: Connecting to 87.110.53.166 [87.110.53.166] port 22.
[20:11] <Janeks991> ssh: connect to host 87.110.53.166 port 22: Connection timed out
[20:11] <sipior> physicist: at most it would be an inconvenience
[20:13] <physicist> sipior: Got it. All right. I can proceed.
[20:13] <sipior> physicist: have fun :-)
[20:13] <sipior> Janeks991: try "ssh user@localhost" (and don't dump multiple lines in chat, else you'll get the floodbots angry)
[20:13] <toni54321> se the private query
[20:14] <Janeks991> ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
[20:15] <sipior> Janeks991: the machine you are currently logged into is the machine running the ssh daemon, correct?
[20:15] <Janeks991> yes
[20:16] <sipior> Janeks991: does anything show up in /var/log/syslog when you try logging in?
[20:16] <sipior> Janeks991: /var/log/auth.log
[20:17] <Ilmen2> Hello
[20:17] <Janeks991> Dec  6 22:06:45 janis-priedaine sshd[3299]: Received signal 15; terminating.
[20:18] <sipior> Janeks991: tell you what. let's stop the daemon (sudo service ssh stop), and start it manually (sudo sshd -d)
[20:19] <Ilmen2> [Ubuntu 13.10] How can I create a shortcut to a program giving it a specific command line?
[20:19] <gordonjcp> Ilmen2: a desktop shortcut, or an alias?
[20:19] <sipior> Janeks991: "sudo /usr/sbin/sshd -d", in case it's not in your path
[20:19] <Ilmen2> For putting on the desktop or in a folder
[20:19] <gordonjcp> Ilmen2: so, like an icon you click on?
[20:20] <Ilmen2> Is a batch file what I need?
[20:20] <Janeks991> sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path
[20:20] <Ilmen2> yes
[20:20] <gordonjcp> Ilmen2: no, batch file is an MS-DOS thing
[20:20] <gordonjcp> Ilmen2: they died out decades ago
[20:20] <Cylindric> Hi folks. I need to access data on a Windows HDD, it's showing Ubuntu Disks as "LDM data partition" - can I read that from Ubuntu? I think it was a Dynamic Disk in Win8
[20:21] <gordonjcp> Ilmen2: this might help -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/142159/desktop-shortcut-to-create-a-new-desktop-shortcut-doesnt-do-anything
[20:21] <Ontani> Hi I have an issue with my udevd process, its hogging up all CPU
[20:22] <Ilmen2> gordonjcp: thanks :)
[20:22] <Janeks991> ssh: connect to host 87.110.53.166 port 22: Connection timed out
[20:22] <Ontani> when doing an strace of the process i'm getting flooded with the following lines: http://pastebin.com/MxJ5345C
[20:22] <sipior> Janeks991: did the daemon report anything?
[20:23] <Janeks991> Server listening on :: port 22.
[20:23] <sipior> Janeks991: also, let's keep to localhost for the moment.
[20:23] <eminor> Janeks991: what is the output of "sudo ss -tupln"?
[20:23] <Janeks991> I don't get why it does so, I want to kill this ssh thingy by now
[20:25] <Janeks991> http://pastebin.com/8SUDHrxg
[20:25] <Ubuntivity[HELP]> Hello everyone. On my 12.04 I suddenly became unable to use my HP Printer, I thought it is an hplip problem, messed up a lot with it, with no luck. Then I tried to get some files from external hard disk and it doesn't work either! It seems that my system is not recognizing USB devices, but I'm not sure if that is the actual problem. So, how do I diagnose this?
[20:26] <sipior> and what is the outcome of ssh localhost now?
[20:27] <Janeks991> ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
[20:28] <sipior> Janeks991: do you have any iptables rules in place, and/or contents in /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny?
[20:29] <Janeks991> I haven't done anything with iptables
[20:30] <Guest5140> Janeks991: just for fun try: telnet localhost 22
[20:30] <fedgalaxy> Hello Ubuntu community, first of all, I would like to thank you people for being active all the time. I just have this small question about Deluge (bittorrent client) running under ubuntu 12.04 LTS, my question is; I noticed that when Deluge reaches > 10 GBytes of total files being downloaded, it closes unexpectedly, I had to minimize the total of files being downloaded under 10 Gbytes, so any head start?. any suggestions?
[20:30] <Guest5140> Janeks991: see if you get any response
[20:31] <Janeks991> Trying 127.0.0.1...
[20:31] <Janeks991> Connected to localhost.
[20:31] <Janeks991> Escape character is '^]'.
[20:31] <Janeks991> SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.9p1 Debian-5ubuntu1.1
[20:31] <FloodBot1> Janeks991: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:31] <sipior> Guest5140: interesting!
[20:31] <Janeks991> well
[20:31] <eminor> Guest5140: show us your sshd config
[20:31] <eminor> oops
[20:32] <Guest5140> Janeks991: thats good actually rules out a couple of things anyway
[20:32] <eminor> -> Janeks991
[20:32] <Janeks991> http://pastebin.com/j1eDv8JA
[20:35] <fedgalaxy> so!
[20:35] <Guest5140> Janeks991: your sshd conf is the same as what I am using and its working
[20:35] <Guest5140> Janeks991: try moving your ~/.ssh dir on the client side
[20:36] <Guest5140> Janeks991: then try again
[20:37] <mammuth> #ubuntu fr
[20:38] <wad> Hi guys. I installed Ubuntu 13.10 64-bit desktop on my new laptop (lenovo IdeaPad y510p), and I get a blank display on boot. After trying many things, I've given up on supporting the NVidia card. Is there a way to tell it to just use the integrated Intel video, and ignore the NVidia? I was reading about switcheroo...
[20:38] <Pessimist> fedgalaxy, run 'deluged' with -l option and read the log file. Also read how deluge works (daemon/client design in particular)
[20:38] <fedgalaxy> thx pessimist
[20:39] <wad> I've set it up to dial-boot, so I'd rather leave the NVidia enabled in BIOS, as Windows can use it for games and stuff.
[20:39] <wad> I'd like to tell Linux to turn it off on boot.
[20:39] <wad> But I'm not sure how to do that.
[20:40] <Janeks991> ssh janis@localhost
[20:40] <Janeks991> ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
[20:40] <Janeks991> from client side
[20:41] <Janeks991> SSH is broken
[20:41] <It> Janeks991: you have an sshd installed right? (like openssh-server)
[20:41] <sipior> Janeks991: try "ssh -vvv janis@localhost"
[20:42] <rorybros> Hi guys, just wondering how can i fit ubuntu on a 700mb CD? the 12.04.3 download is 707mb.. it's just too big to fit
[20:42] <Janeks991> ssh -vvv janis@localhost
[20:42] <Janeks991> connection refused
[20:42] <Janeks991> again
[20:42] <Janeks991> fffffffffuuu
[20:42] <sipior> Janeks991: it should've printed a *bit* more than that.
[20:42] <It> Janeks991: ok, backreading indicates you do seem to have a sshd.
[20:43] <It> you're connecting to the same host/port with ssh and with telnet and one works, but the other gives connection refused?
[20:43] <Janeks991> http://pastebin.com/GLz5nvpi
[20:43] <mammuth>  #irc.videolan.org
[20:43] <hggdh> "connection refused" means there is no program holding the target port (in this case, 22) open
[20:44] <Janeks991> I just connected
[20:44] <sipior> Janeks991: you haven't changed /etc/ssh/ssh_config, have you?
[20:44] <Janeks991> from the server
[20:44] <Janeks991> to the server itself
[20:45] <DJones> Janeks991: Is SSH installed on the same machine you've been running the "ssh user@localhost" command on, or are they two different machines
[20:47] <Janeks991> http://pastebin.com/AW2uQ5FR
[20:47] <Janeks991> from other machine it's refused
[20:48] <Janeks991> 256 packages can be updated.
[20:48] <Janeks991> omg
[20:48] <Janeks991> I missed updates
[20:48] <DJones> Janeks991: What is the servers ip address
[20:48] <Janeks991> and even pack
[20:48] <Janeks991> 3
[20:48] <Guest5140> Janeks991: its working now?
[20:49] <rorybros> Any help for me?
[20:49] <DJones> Janeks991: The internal network address, not the internet ip address, probably 192.168.0.x
[20:50] <rorybros> Can anyone help me?
[20:50] <eminor> !ask | rorybros
[20:50] <Xcytre> !patience
[20:51] <DJones> Janeks991: On the client machine try "ssh user@192.168.0.x" assuming the server has a 192. internal ip address
[20:51] <Janeks991> tried didn`t work
[20:51] <Guest5140> Janeks991: your last paste looks like it worked?
[20:51] <rorybros> I'm trying to put Ubuntu on a 700mb CD. I don't have any CDs or DVDs with larger storage at the moment. Is there any release that would fit on a 700mb disc, or any way I can fit it on a 700mb disc? Thanks
[20:51] <DJones> Janeks991: Just change the 192.168.0.x to the ip address of the server
[20:51] <CreamedChicken> Just purchased a new laptop. It comes with integrated Intel HD 4000 graphics. If I install 13.10, is there anything special I need to install graphics drivers? Like https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=13815 or http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/intel-linux-graphics-installer.html?
[20:51] <Janeks991> djones I did that
[20:52] <Janeks991> I'm not upgrading packaged
[20:52] <Janeks991> s
[20:52] <elementz> hi all. is there a good cli language translation package available for linux?
[20:53] <knite> can someone explain or link to an explanation of how package updates work across releases? what I mean is that I have some packages on a 12.04 LTS install, which need to be updated. but aptitude and apt-get think they're up-to-date. newer Ubuntu releases have updated versions of the packages. what's the right way to update the packages without upgrading Ubuntu itself?
[20:53] <CreamedChicken> PPA or backports
[20:53] <CreamedChicken> or a manual .deb install
[20:55] <xangua> !latest | knite
[20:55] <knite> !backports
[20:56] <knite> !sru
[20:56] <knite> heh, that one's not helpful.
[20:56] <knite> !ppa
[20:56] <CreamedChicken> rorybros, see http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[20:57] <CreamedChicken> Any ideas for the graphics card?
[20:58] <Pessimist> CreamedChicken, no, you don't need anything else
[20:58] <CreamedChicken> So the OOTB, open source ones are the best available?
[20:58] <Pessimist> CreamedChicken, intel only has floss drivers for linux and they are installed by default in 13.10
[20:59] <CreamedChicken> Alright, thanks. Sorry for the dumb question.
[21:04] <LtRipley> hi
[21:06] <LtRipley> when i run sftware-properties-gtk i get this stack trace http://pastebin.com/23gMPSU1
[21:06] <LtRipley> i am not familiar with GObject and PyCapsule, anyone willing to help me with finding the bug?
[21:12] <LtRipley> any of the python-tools coming with ubuntu to facilitate the update process will just crash :(
[21:12] <Kane_Hart> My server keeps freezing up
[21:12] <Kane_Hart> what do I do to start finding out why
[21:12] <Ilmen2> root@computer:~# wine ~/.local/share/wineprefixes/irfanview/drive_c/Program Files (x86)/IrfanView/i_view32.exe
[21:12] <Ilmen2> -su: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[21:12] <Ilmen2> ^ If I understand correctly, parenthesis are not allowed in such commands?
[21:13] <CreamedChicken> I've got a Dell Inspiron 15 3521. It's a new model, so it's got UEFI/Secure boot/fun. Are there any settings I need to disable in the BIOS/UEFI?
[21:13] <bekks> Ilmen2: They are. Whitespaces arent. Embrace the entire path with "".
[21:13] <Ilmen2> okay, thanks :)
[21:13] <CreamedChicken> I disabled secure boot and turned on the Legacy OPROM. But is there anything else I need to disable, like Intel Speedstep?
[21:14] <CreamedChicken> I don't see an option for SRT anywhere.
[21:14] <wad> Can someone help me interpret the output of this command? cat /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
[21:14] <wad> There are two lines: 0:IGD:+:Pwr:0000:00:02.0
[21:14] <wad> 1:DIS: :Pwr:0000:01:00.0
[21:14] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, You have a recovery cd made from the windows install yet and an image/clone made?
[21:14] <wad> Does the initial 0 mean it's off, and the inital 1 mean it's on?
[21:15] <wad> Or does the + mean it's on?
[21:15] <CreamedChicken> Nope. I don't yet. I don't have any spare CDs/DVDs.
[21:15] <Kane_Hart> Anyone know what this error means? http://i.imgur.com/FDKurFQ.png
[21:15] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, If you have a problem not having those will make things long and difficult to fix.
[21:19] <CreamedChicken> Can they be put on a USB?
[21:21] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, The recovery is very small, it is just a bootable tool for repairs.....etc, an image is the size of the daat on the computer best put on a external HD.
[21:21] <Beldar> data*
[21:22] <CreamedChicken> I have three external HDDs, it's not an issue.
[21:22] <Beldar> yes the recovery can be put on a usb, and just the iso saved in W8 I beleieve
[21:23] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, Cool, save all the partitions the recovery the main...etc using the onboard imager you have one free image with a OEM.
[21:23] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, It just save the data, so the partitions there alraedy are okay.
[21:24] <Ilmen2> How can I associate a drive letter for a drive in wine?
[21:24] <CreamedChicken> So which option is that? Backup entire hard disk? http://i.imgur.com/7a3CJzw.png
[21:25] <Ilmen2> I need to provide the path of a file located on an external drive to a wine app by command line
[21:26] <usr13> Ilmen2: "associate a drive letter"?  What does that mean?
[21:26] <Ilmen2> In the windows stile, drives are represented by a single letter + colon ':'
[21:26] <Ilmen2> *stlye
[21:26] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, Yeah backup the entire disc, that way your covered, I have W8.1 pro so I have unlimited imaging/cloning and use the imager/cloner found in file history bottom of the page.
[21:27] <CreamedChicken> Oh, I upgraded to 8.1
[21:27] <CreamedChicken> Pro version, if it matters
[21:27] <usr13> Ilmen2: What exactly are you trying to do?
[21:27] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, Even more important to image then as you would have to reinstall W8 then upgrade again to be activated.
[21:27] <usr13> Ilmen2: What application is it?
[21:28] <Ilmen2> usr13: I have a working .desktop targetting a wine app
[21:28] <usr13> Ilmen2: What app?
[21:28] <Ilmen2> irfanview
[21:28] <CreamedChicken> So is there anything special I should do since I have 8.1? Just use Dell's default backup program?
[21:28] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, You have pro excellent you have unlimited backups.
[21:29] <CreamedChicken> Let me rephrase that, how should I back up?
[21:29] <Beldar> CreamedChicken hold on let me reboot to my w8.1 to give you a screen shot of the windows imager/
[21:29] <bekks> !backup | CreamedChicken
[21:29] <CreamedChicken> I don't have a bootable back up though
[21:30] <usr13> Ilmen2: So, what is it that you do with irfanview?
[21:30] <Ilmen2> usr13: under windows I had a custom link giving irfanview a link to a text file (located on an external drive) containing links to various images, so that when irfanview is lauched it show a slideshow with these impages
[21:30] <Ilmen2> *images
[21:31] <Ilmen2> the command line  was "D:\path\i_view32.exe /window=(x,y,w,h) /slideshow=F:\path\foo.txt"
[21:32] <toni54321> hi all. I want too lanc ubuntu nomodeset mode, i have the GRUB 2.00
[21:32] <toni54321> how? cann you help me?
[21:32] <usr13> Ilmen2: How about coping or symlinking the text file to wine's working directory, (which is probably ~/.wine/ )?
[21:33] <usr13> Ilmen2: It's a "custom link"?  (To where?)
[21:33] <Ilmen2> now I made a .desktop containing   Exec=wine "/home/username/.local/share/wineprefixes/irfanview/drive_c/Program Files (x86)/IrfanView/i_view32.exe" /window=(x,y,w,h) /slideshow=F:\path\foo.txt
[21:33] <Ilmen2> but of course it doesn't work because there is no F: drive known
[21:33] <usr13> Ilmen2: So, "drive_c" is C:
[21:34] <rypervenche> CreamedChicken: I personally use a program to backup all of my data. I can keep differential backups too, so I have 31 backups, taking one a day. Each backup only copies over the differences of the backup before that.
[21:34] <Ilmen2> yes
[21:34] <toni54321> hi all. I want too lanc ubuntu nomodeset mode, i have the GRUB 2.00. some body help me
[21:34] <usr13> !nomodeset | toni54321
[21:35] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, here is the file history snip at the bottom is the windows tool for cloning.  http://imagebin.org/280954
[21:35] <Beldar> system image backup
[21:35] <usr13> Ilmen2: So "/slideshow=F:\path\foo.txt" is the part you need to fix?
[21:36] <xtriz> is their any by default adm user ?
[21:36] <usr13> xtriz: Yes.  It's the original user you created at install time.
[21:36] <Ilmen2> usr13: yeah, it's the only thing that isn't working (apart from that irfanview launches correctly)
[21:37] <xtriz> usr13, i created at install time ? i just created user xtriz at install time
[21:37] <Pessimist> !root
[21:37] <CreamedChicken> http://i.imgur.com/BYEp1W8.png Like this?
[21:38] <Guest42297> "Did IQ just drop sharply while I was away...Mam I already said it was not indigenous, it was a derelict space craft...it was not from there, you get it?"
[21:38] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, Thanks for considering this, it is really disheartening when we see people with problems that would be easily fixed with an image and the right tools.
[21:38] <usr13> xtriz: Then "xtriz" is the default admin user.
[21:39] <xtriz> usr13, so i think someone did something to my computer as it is having adm user too
[21:39] <CreamedChicken> Anything else I should do? I haven't made a bootable disk using the Dell backup program, or done a backup _with_ the dell backup program.
[21:39] <xtriz> usr13, i am telling this because all my logs are cleared
[21:39] <xtriz> and it has only root and adm user access
[21:39] <usr13> xtriz: ls /home  #See if a new user directory has been created.
[21:40] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, yep the system image backup at the bottom is the click to the cloner.
[21:40] <usr13> xtriz: Question #1)  Did you give someone your password?
[21:40] <xtriz> usr13, no home directory is there
[21:40] <CreamedChicken> Alright, would've missed that, not sure what I'm looking for.
[21:40] <xtriz> usr13, no i didn't gave anyone password but i run ssh server facing towards the internet
[21:41] <CreamedChicken> Would this wipe the external drive?
[21:41] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, save an iso of the recovery boot or put it on a usb, that will allow you to boot and reload images and do repairs from a terminal and other stuff.
[21:41] <Guest42297> "We homed in on its beacon and found something never recorded once in over 300 surveyed worlds"
[21:41] <stevildead> v0latil3: hey
[21:41] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, No it wont wipe anything it just saves the data in a file.
[21:41] <CreamedChicken> Sorry, my bad.
[21:43] <CreamedChicken> So  I wantto create a bootable backup using the Dell program?
[21:43] <stevildead> i have ubuntu 12 iso on a usb, i try to boot from it and it says no os found
[21:43] <usr13> xtriz: You could look at /etc/shadow and see if there is a user name that you do not recoginze, (other than xtriz and guest).
[21:44] <usr13> xtriz: grep adm /etc/group   #To see if there is another adm user.
[21:45] <hotmedal> does anyone know how to get gnome shell to output SBS 3D? as in the whole desktop, not just playing videos
[21:45] <MonkeyDust> stevildead: is it the extracted .iso, or just the .iso ?
[21:46] <xtriz> usr13, hopefully there is no adm user
[21:46] <MonkeyDust> stevildead: does it show casper?
[21:46] <usr13> xtriz: You have a very strong password, Right?
[21:46] <xtriz> and i am the member of the group adm
[21:46] <hotmedal> I want to see my windowsin 3d
[21:46] <usr13> xtriz: Well, look and see....
[21:46] <xtriz> usr13, yeah
[21:46] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, I'm not familiar with what dell offers, what you want is the recovery iso it is about 125MB or have it on a disc or usb, the OS has that option as well like it does the cloner. Be sure to use nicks here to you can tab complete them.
[21:46] <usr13> xtriz: (What do you mean "hopefully"?)
[21:47] <xtriz> usr13, i just meant that there is no user name adm in the shadow
[21:47] <rabbitear_sdf> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Naf5uJYGoiU
[21:47] <usr13> xtriz: And you change your password often, Right?
[21:47] <usr13> xtriz: That is not what I told you to look for.
[21:47] <xtriz> usr13, no
[21:47] <xtriz> i think i need to change it now
[21:47] <CreamedChicken> http://i.imgur.com/KslsIZj.png
[21:47] <CreamedChicken> That's what the dell program looks like
[21:48] <usr13> xtriz: grep adm /etc/group    #And see who all is listed there.
[21:48] <Fohlen> sup guys ... my ubuntu vps (12.10) hangs up while installing mysql-server package ...
[21:48] <toni54321> hi all. I want too lanc ubuntu nomodeset mode, i have the GRUB 2.00. some body help me
[21:48] <Fohlen> you have any tipp what I could do?
[21:48] <usr13> !nomodeset | toni54321
[21:50] <Fohlen> or better ... it takes me about 15 minutes right now and the installation still hangs on "setting up mysql"
[21:50] <Fohlen> its the only package I'm having trouble with :/
[21:50] <toni54321> ubottu in this link wasnt show grub 2 but grub 1.98
[21:50] <toni54321> ok ok
[21:50] <usr13> toni54321: Read the part under "How to temporarily set kernel boot options on an installed OS"
[21:51] <toni54321> i have intalle ubuntu butt cant lanch it
[21:51] <xtriz> usr13, adm and lpadmin are listed there
[21:52] <usr13> xtriz: Ok, and what names come after....?
[21:52] <xtriz> xtrix my username
[21:53] <usr13> xtriz: If it is your username, (and no oters), you're good.
[21:53] <xtriz> usr13, that means i am good :D thanks for the help :)
[21:54] <usr13> xtriz: NP
[21:54] <kryto> i love my Ubuntu2
[21:54] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, recovery can mean several things here, it could be the reload of saved data, or a restore function which makes it like when purchased, or an specific restore point , you want the recovery boot disc. You might ask in ##windows exactly where that trecovery disc option is, I just have no idea of the dell options here.
[22:00] <Fohlen> solved it, was a mysql-dedicated error
[22:00] <optimusprimem> someone have Atheros AR8162 on version 13.10?
[22:03] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, It appears the recovery drive option is the bootable image we are looking for if I understand this, I have install discs to use so have not had to make the recovery boot.
[22:04] <CreamedChicken> Beldar, ##windows said the system image backup was enough, and to make a bootable backup using recoverydisk, not the dell program.
[22:04] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, Yeah, I use the windows tools completely, mine is my install, just be sure you clone all the partitions.
[22:12] <CreamedChicken> Backup using file history finished, going to start recoverydisk now
[22:12] <CreamedChicken> *drive
[22:12] <CreamedChicken> "The drive must be able to hold at least 16 GB, and everything on the drive will be deleted."
[22:13] <CreamedChicken> I only have 8 GB drives.
[22:13] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, Cool, thanks for doing this, it is an easy reload if something happens, and you can rest assured your booty is covered.
[22:13] <CreamedChicken> It lists E:\ as an option, but that's the external hard drive.
[22:15] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, Are you sure you are clicking on the recovery boot it is vefry small mine just sais it could be around 500 or so MB?
[22:15] <CreamedChicken> One second, please.
[22:15] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, recovery drive is the search
[22:16] <CreamedChicken> This is what create and format hard disk partitions says http://i.imgur.com/dC9Fm7C.png
[22:16] <CreamedChicken> This is what recoverydrive says http://i.imgur.com/VJhMQLH.png
[22:17] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, That is the disk manager, the onboard partitioner.
[22:17] <CreamedChicken> Yes, but it lists the partitions.
[22:18] <bekks> CreamedChicken: Well showing the source drives and showing a possible target drive doesnt help much...
[22:18] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, Are you in the admin?
[22:18] <CreamedChicken> Yes, I am.
[22:19] <toni54321> ok now i start ubuntu 13.10 in nomodeset mode thanks all. bunt nou i dont now how tu too conect too the wi-fi rutter
[22:19] <toni54321> ?
[22:20] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, here is mine with a 8 gig usb plugged in I would ask sepeck on this. http://imagebin.org/280960
[22:21] <Beldar> !nomodeset | toni54321
[22:21] <TiZ> Hi. I have extremely choppy pointer movement on my elantech touchpad, at least vertically. Horizontally, it's fine. But vertically, the cursor will lurch ahead, going between being barely moving to moving excessively. How can I fix this?
[22:21] <CreamedChicken> Weird. I assume it's from the recovery partition that says it 11.97 GB.
[22:22] <toni54321> ubottu i start the ubuntu but i dont no how to conect too wi-fi internet
[22:22] <CreamedChicken> It's got about three recovery partitions for some reason.
[22:22] <toni54321> ok ok
[22:23] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, Mine is my own install I have only two partitions the boot and C, this might be an issue, but I see the response on ##windows about possible additional steps, not sure here exactly is all.
[22:23] <toni54321> how can conect too wi-fi internet for dowloadin nividia driver
[22:25] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, Only one is the actual recovery image however they may all be named recovery, you have a uefi so there are additional partitons that are part of that system, a boot, a firmware these are normal. Not all marked accordingly is all.
[22:26] <hitklif> Hi All
[22:26] <tgm4883> Does the in kernel IR support work on 13.10 with 3.11.0-13.generic? I've not been able to get this working, but it worked fine on 12.04
[22:29] <CreamedChicken> Well, I don't have a 16 GB drive. Can I install Ubuntu anyway?
[22:29] <bekks> CreamedChicken: yes.
[22:30] <CreamedChicken> Alright. I think I'll install Xubuntu. Back to my original question, do I need to disable anything in the BIOS/UEFI?
[22:30] <CreamedChicken> I already disabled secure boot.
[22:31] <CQ> hello, when I try to delete a song in rhythmbox what happens? It should get moved to teh trash, but I don't see it thee, and the diskspace doesn't change
[22:32] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, You want to use that onboard windows partitioner is all to resize it to have an unallocated space for xubuntu.
[22:32] <CreamedChicken> Windows says I have 418 GB free. About how much should I give Xubuntu? 150?
[22:33] <Payton> Does installing ubuntu on a virtual machine affect your computers disk memory?
[22:33] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, It will probably have it run a auto chkdsk, so make sure you reboot windwos after the resize to be all set.
[22:33] <bekks> Payton: Define "affect" please. You have to configure a specific amount of RAM for being used by your VM.
[22:33] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, free is not unallocated, xubuntu is a different type of partition is all.
[22:34] <CreamedChicken> I know, I know.
[22:34] <CreamedChicken> Xubuntu is ext4, windows is NTFS
[22:34] <Payton> bekks:  Not what I'm asking, would it affect my pc's memory?
[22:34] <CreamedChicken> Windows doesn't support ext4 natively
[22:34] <bekks> Payton: Define "affect" then please.
[22:34] <Payton> Use up
[22:35] <Payton> Take away
[22:35] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, Cool, so just resize in windows and reboot it to make sure its good then install in that unallocated.
[22:35] <bekks> Payton: Of course. A vm needs RAM.
[22:35] <Payton> Not RAM, i mean disk space
[22:35] <bekks> Payton: Of course. A vm needs disk space.
[22:35] <Payton> Of course it would take up RAM xD
[22:35] <Payton> Alright
[22:35] <CreamedChicken> Win+E/My Computer/This PC says it has 418 GB free. Of that 418, I'm asking how much should I give to Xubuntu. 150?
[22:36] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, at least 10 gigs probably to be safe, and as much as you think you will need, all of this can be resized though if needed.
[22:36] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, how much ram do you have?
[22:37] <CreamedChicken> 4
[22:37] <Payton> What if I'm using VirtualBox, it is a Virtual Computer not mine of course :P
[22:37] <bekks> Payton: Virtualbox vms need disk space and RAM.
[22:37] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, I would go at least 14 gigs then the swap should be equal or slightly more that the ram for hibernate.
[22:38] <Payton> bekks: When using a VirtualBox PC you are using a PC that Java is running xD
[22:38] <CreamedChicken> I'll just go with 150.
[22:38] <bekks> Payton: ?? VBox doesnt use java at all.
[22:38] <Beldar> CreamedChicken, Cool, I would go big as well.
[22:38] <CreamedChicken> thanks for help, I'll come back if I have any issues.
[22:38] <Payton> VirtualBox is ran by oracle.
[22:38] <bekks> Payton: And?
[22:38] <imposssible> why does ubuntu get stuck while booting
[22:39] <imposssible> in live usb
[22:39] <Payton> bekks: And they use their computers and you connect to that using VBox
[22:39] <bekks> Payton: Thats nonsense.
[22:39] <Payton> bekks: True nonsense.
[22:39] <Payton> :)
[22:40] <Beldar> imposssible, Can you describe stuck?
[22:40] <Payton> bekks: I'm playing with you xD
[22:40] <Payton> bekks: Thanks for the help
[22:40] <imposssible> Beldar: it shows ubuntu logo with dots at bottom and on the second row of dots it stops
[22:40] <imposssible> my bios is annoying me.
[22:41] <Beldar> imposssible, have you done a sum check ?
[22:41] <imposssible> no i have not
[22:41] <Payton> bekks: If I don't install anything would my disk still have all of my memory?
[22:41] <bekks> !nomodeset | imposssible
[22:41] <Beldar> imposssible, might just need a nomodeset boot
[22:41] <bekks> Payton: Your disk never has all of your memory.
[22:42] <Payton> bekks: You know what I mean :P
[22:42] <bekks> Payton: No, I'm not.
[22:42] <Beldar> imposssible, try the nomodeset, if it does not work run a sum check.
[22:42] <Payton> bekks: I don't like your grammar xD
[22:42] <imposssible> Beldar: is it normal that i booted ubuntu before without doing this
[22:42] <imposssible> i just didnt install it
[22:42] <bekks> Payton: I dont like your offtopic. :)
[22:42] <imposssible> ill do no modset either way Beldar
[22:43] <Payton> bekks: We all have our likes and dislikes.
[22:43] <Payton> bekks: :P
[22:43] <KickStarRabbit> need some assistance with a win8 ubunto install
[22:43] <Guest42297> Is it possible to upgrade Ubuntu 13.10 to the latest LTS 14.04?
[22:43] <Payton> KickStarRabbit: Use 64 bit if using windows 8 or it will screw up
[22:44] <imposssible> is ahci ok to leave on for ubnutu
[22:44] <imposssible>  or compatible for ide mode
[22:44] <Beldar> Guest42297, Yes, however 14.04 is in development, not really advised as a main install.
[22:44] <Beldar> Guest42297, It's not released yet.
[22:44] <k1l> Guest42297: yes. but there is no final release of 14.04 until april 2014
[22:45] <Payton> Beldar: Hi, would setting ubuntu to 10.00 GB disk space on VBox take from my disk?
[22:45] <xangua> Payton: it would take 10GB, yes
[22:45] <Beldar> Payton, the vm runs on the disc so yes
[22:45] <Guest42297> ahh ok thanks for that
[22:45] <Payton> Beldar: xangua Ok thanks
[22:46] <Beldar> Guest42297, You could dual boot it.
[22:46] <Guest42297> No I think i'll leave it for now since its still awhile off till release
[22:46] <Guest42297> I am considering installing a newer kernel
[22:47] <linuxuz3r> hi
[22:47] <Payton> What is recommended for VBox? 12.10 or 13.10?
[22:47] <linuxuz3r> how do i rescan all my apps installed so it shows in gnome 3 stuff
[22:47] <Beldar> Guest42297, Just be aware that any kernels not in the release are not technically supported here is all.
[22:48] <Payton> Beldar: What is recommended for VBox? 12.10 or 13.10?
[22:48] <Beldar> Payton, does not matter really
[22:48] <Payton> Beldar: Okai
[22:48] <Payton> Beldar: So i should be fine on a 1TB disk?
[22:48] <imposssible> Beldar: if i am able to boot is there a certain way that im suppose to partition?
[22:49] <Payton> Beldar: And if i was to uninstall VBox would I regain that 10GB?
[22:49] <Guest42297> ok thanks
[22:50] <Beldar> imposssible, This a dual boot and if so what is the other release?
[22:50] <imposssible> Beldar: i 12.04
[22:50] <imposssible> its
[22:51] <imposssible> im sorrry
[22:51] <imposssible> i dont remember
[22:51] <imposssible> i am able to boot into elemetnary os 12.04 though
[22:51] <Beldar> Payton, yes if you remove the vm image, is all the virtualbox app is tiny, not necessarily need to be removed just the image.
[22:51] <imposssible> but i get an grub-efi error
[22:51] <Payton> Beldar: Ok so I would regain that space?
[22:51] <Payton> :)
[22:51] <Beldar> imposssible, I'm not up on efi stuff, this gpt?
[22:52] <Beldar> Payton, removing the virtualbox image yes, not the app.
[22:52] <Payton> I just plan to use ubuntu to code on anyway xD
[22:52] <timo_> i have error whit youtube can anyone help me
[22:52] <Payton> Beldar: How would I remove the image?
[22:52] <GnuBoi> Hi y'all? I am unable run Vmware it says? Unable to change virtual machine power state: Cannot find a valid peer process to connect to
[22:52] <GnuBoi> What should I do?
[22:53] <Beldar> Payton, be careful in filling a HD up anyway there are schools of thought on this that suggest no more that about 70% full.
[22:54] <Payton> Beldar: Still, how would I remove tthe image?
[22:54] <Beldar> Payton, the image is a file in virtualbox
[22:54] <Payton> Beldar: Oh I know where than is now, Thanks!
[22:54] <Beldar> Payton, The removal from the vbox app has a remove all option.
[22:55] <Payton> Beldar: The app is only like a few MB's lol
[22:55] <Payton> Beldar: The app isn't my prob
[22:55] <Beldar> timo_, GIve the channel the details.
[22:55] <Beldar> Payton, right but the app ahs a removal of the image option.
[22:55] <Beldar> has*
[22:56] <linuxuz3r> what is the proper way to add user in sudo?
[22:56] <Beldar> Payton, YOU can also just save that image to an external and reload it to any vbox.
[22:57] <Beldar> or saved to anther partition....etc
[22:57] <Payton> Beldar: In VBox does it alow you to partition or would you have to do it the old school way?
[22:57] <timo_> beldar what channel details
[22:58] <Beldar> !details | timo_ your errors to start wth
[22:58] <Beldar> Payton, vbaox just gives you the space to install to the OS partitions it, but you can from a live os do the partitioning yourself.
[22:59] <Payton> Beldar: Okai thanks! :)
[22:59] <Beldar> timo_, We can't guess, you have to describe the problem.
[23:00] <Beldar> !visudi | linuxuz3r
[23:00] <Beldar> !visudo | linuxuz3r
[23:00] <Beldar> linuxuz3r, generally visudo
[23:01] <timo_> beldar_ i felsh play i ues internet an youtube don't what play
[23:01] <Beldar> linuxuz3r, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[23:02] <linuxuz3r> Beldar: thanks
[23:02] <linuxuz3r> how do i scan gnome 3 for icons installed
[23:02] <linuxuz3r> i mean my firefox icon is gone
[23:02] <Beldar> timo_ Not an understandable post to me.
[23:02] <linuxuz3r> it doesn't register in gnome 3
[23:03] <Beldar> timo_, Is youtube not playing?
[23:03] <wad> Hey guys. So I've spent many hours now, trying to get my new laptop (Lenovo IdeaPad y510p) to run Ubuntu. I've tried 12.04 LTS and 13.10. No joy. No matter what I do, I can't get a gui. Either it's a blank screen, or just a command prompt because lightdm crashed.
[23:03] <timo_> beldar_ yes
[23:04] <Beldar> timo_, Run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras for flash, other codecs and ms fonts, close browser than try again.
[23:05] <wad> Any help would be appreciated. I've tried the offial NVidia driver for this video card, and I've tried with the NVidia card disabled in BIOS. Doesn't matter. Blank screen every time. If I use the nomodeset, I can get to a command prompt (logs show lightdm crashed).
[23:05] <Beldar> wad, sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[23:05] <wad> I'll try it.
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> Wad: try the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[23:06] <wad> I'll try ANYTHING.
[23:06] <Beldar> wad, follow ActionParsnip and here is a wiki. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
[23:06] <linuxuz3r> how do i run fsck on ubuntu
[23:06] <linuxuz3r> !fsck
[23:06] <schultza> Beldar: thanks for the help last night. It was that xorg ppa I had.
[23:07] <wad> After reconfiguring lightdm, I restarted it, and got: [+0.09s] DEBUG: Seat: Stopping; greeter display server failed to start
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> Linuxuz3r: its a terminal command. Be sure the partition you are checking is unmounted
[23:07] <mercuryrising> so i'm trying to use qgifer (installed from sam rogg's PPA), it was working fine, I did a system update, then it stopped working. It will let me do everything up to saving the gif, and I get the error message "QPainter::begin: Paint device returned engine == 0, type: 3 QPainter::end: Painter not active, aborted QImage::scaled: Image is a null image"
[23:07] <Beldar> schultza, Ah cool, I knew it was one of them, that is a unstable ppa at the least.
[23:07] <wad> I've done a bunch of blacklisting, that was 2 full OS reinstalls ago. I'll give it another round or two. :)
[23:07] <mercuryrising> I assume that's part of Qt (QPainter, QImage), would a Qt update break it like that?
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> Mercuryrising: i suggest you contact the ppa maintainer
[23:08] <linuxuz3r> ActionParsnip how do i add firefox in gnome launcher
[23:08] <endika> hola a todos
[23:08] <timo_> belder_ that be in terminal right
[23:08] <endika> hello
[23:08] <mercuryrising> ActionParsnip, im not sure it's the PPA though - it worked fine prior to updating, and now it's bunk (I think it's from updating software), although that would be a compatibility problem for the maintainer
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> Linuxuz3r: where did you install gnome launcher from. Never heard of it
[23:09] <wad> ActionParsnip, where do I put that boot option? I assume I do "e" from grub.
[23:09] <endika> im life in spain
[23:09]  * wad reboots the machine
[23:09] <endika> alguien speak my language
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> Wad: yes add it in place of quiet splash in the 'e' text bit as you said
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> Mercuryrising: we cannot support packages from PPAs here.
[23:10] <wad> ah, okay.
[23:10] <schultza> Beldar: I do not remember why I put xorg-edgers on my system. Do you know what's in it?
[23:10] <wad> Should I also put in there the nomodeset?
[23:10] <endika> I don andestan
[23:10] <wad> If I don't do that,  the screen blanks out sooner.
[23:10] <endika> lo repito alguien speak spanish
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> Wad: try it, if its no good try nouveau.blacklist=1
[23:10] <endika> please
[23:10] <endika> camon
[23:10] <wad> ok
[23:11] <djx> hi, is this tutorial deprecated? https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openldap-server.html
[23:11] <Beldar> schultza, generally graphic drivers.
[23:11] <schultza> !es @ endika
[23:11] <wad> Ok, I'm trying nouveau.blacklist=1 without also adding nomodeset.
[23:11] <schultza> !es
[23:12] <schultza> Beldar: That's probably what happened. Steam complained about my graphics drivers. I used that library to upgrade my graphics drivers.
[23:12] <endika> schultza hablas mi idioma
[23:12] <wad> ActionParsnip, that resulted in the usual. I'll try that WITH the "nomodeset" this time.
[23:13] <schultza> endika: Yo hablo espanol un poco. Hablo en ingles only.
[23:13] <Beldar> schultza, we see the steam conundrum on here at times.
[23:13] <endika> ok me sirve
[23:13] <schultza> Beldar: is there a good solution for graphics driver that steam won't complain about?
[23:14] <endika> im using one traductor to speak english
[23:14] <k1l> !spanish | endika
[23:14] <wad> ActionParsnip, this time the display manager crashed again.
[23:14] <djx> endika por favor escriebe /join #ubuntu-es
[23:14] <Beldar> schultza, Not sure I don;t game myself, you can most likely load that ppa if it is supporting what your upgrade was to if needed. check the ppa page to confirm it is.
[23:15] <djx> este canal es somente para ingles
[23:15] <wad> The machine has two video cards in it, integrated Intel, and an NVidia. I'm just fine using the integrated video under Ubuntu.
[23:15] <endika> ok thank you
[23:15] <wad> ActionParsnip, do you know of any way to prevent Ubuntu from using the NVidia card? Do you do that sort of thing by blacklisting drivers?
[23:15] <schultza> djx: I thought I told him through ubottu to join that channel.
[23:16] <schultza> djx: Maybe I had the syntax wrong.
[23:16] <schultza> Beldar: I will check into that. Thank you.
[23:16] <djx> schultza I really don't know why he read what I wrote and not what ubottu wrote xD
[23:17] <endika_> djx muchas gracias  ya me he metido en un canal español
[23:17] <djx> de nada endika
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> Wad: is there an option in the bios?
[23:18] <CarlFK> how can I enable seconds display on my clock via the command line?  (the gui system settings dialog is disabled, feel free to  help me fix that too ;)
[23:18] <schultza> Beldar: Correct. That package has a history of upgrade issues. I'll have to remember to ppa-purge it before upgrading.
[23:18] <endika_> someone needs help??
[23:20] <schultza> I'll be back.
[23:21] <wad> ActionParsnip, yes, in the BIOS I can enable integrated (intel) or discrete (NVidia) graphics. I've tried both. Neither works at all.
[23:21] <Guest8845> does someone plays CTF in here?
[23:21] <RObt> Im kinda new to linux. I install the ubuntu  on a old laptop. took me about a week to get the wifi going. This was a while back. Im about to do a clean install. Wodnering if ther was a way to say the driver folder or something so i can just go ahead and clean install and copy past folder and wifi works again?
[23:22] <wad> ActionParsnip, I can see the video hardware with lspci.
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> Robt: back it up then reinstall then reinstate
[23:22] <Guest8845> DOES SOMEONE PLAYS "CTF" IN HERE ?
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> Guest8845: patience child....jesus!
[23:22] <wad> ActionParsnip, I actually did that (without the backup).
[23:23] <trism> CarlFK: gsettings set com.canonical.indicator.datetime show-seconds true
[23:23] <wad> It's a brand new laptop, nothing to backup.
[23:23] <RObt> @actionparsnip How do i do that or what is the procedure called?
[23:23] <wad> I can do it again. This will be the 4th complete reinstall of the OS.
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> Robt: get a remote storage like a usb stick and copy it to it...
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> Guest8845: what is ctf?
[23:24] <Guest8845> capture the flag
[23:24] <wad> It's a typo of CTL, which is short for the "control" key on your keyboard.
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> Guest8845: in which game. That is a match type. Loads of differnt FPS games and so forth have cap the flag style games in then
[23:24] <k1l> Guest8845: that doesnt sound like ubuntu support. please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic for that topic
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> Them.
[23:25] <RObt> Ok have multiple usb/external hardrives. Not very familor with linux. Where would the wifi driver folder be located and how do i reiniate
[23:25] <Guest8845> the gathering information one ( CTF hacking game)
[23:25] <mimarcu> hello all
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> Robt: how did you install the driver?
[23:25] <CarlFK> trism: thanks, prolly exactly what I need to set my clock and figure out why the gui is broken, cuz it errored: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6532271/  unknown dconf database description: user  ... The key is not writable
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> Guest8845: how is this Ubuntu related?
[23:26] <RObt> It was a wild back...lots of forums/manufacture bs. Download unpacked and install using terminal i believe
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> Robt: run: history | less
[23:26] <Guest8845> in none :(
[23:26] <Guest8845> soz
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> Robot: use cursor to scroll the commands. You can see what you did
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> !away > dziegler_off
[23:28] <mimarcu> hey can somone help me im trying to start two bash programs at login but only certain logins and not every login on ubuntu server
[23:29] <mimarcu> thanks in advance
[23:30] <CarlFK> mimarcu: I think you want to call them from ~/.bashrc
[23:34] <nebket1> With the allegation that ubuntu is spyware, does canonical have a privacy policy?
[23:36] <mimarcu>  i want it to start the server deamon at login on the server but only console login and on ssh login i want it to not do the same thing i alreaddy amended bash rc to start the menu but i also added the server deamon start script to /etc/profile.d
[23:36] <k1l> nebket1: here is the ubuntu one: http://www.ubuntu.com/privacy-policy
[23:37] <CarlFK> mimarcu: what are you trying to start?  (this seems like a bad idea)
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> Nebket1: there is no spyware in Ubuntu
[23:37] <nebket1> are you sure?
[23:37] <Slyfooker> Ubuntu2 is spyware, hmmm
[23:37] <Slyfooker> who told u that
[23:38] <nebket1> i really don't know these days...
[23:38] <Slyfooker> I love my Ubuntu2
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> Nebket1: there is some Amazon adware....
[23:38] <nebket1> i don't like the amazon adware
[23:38] <Slyfooker> does that mean we can spy on each others?
[23:38] <k1l> nebket1: then turn the amazon scope off or disable all online searches in privacy settings in the system settings.
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> Nebket1: then remove it....easy
[23:39] <mimarcu> im trying to start a minecraft server deamon at console logon and a tolls menu on ssh logon for security auditing
[23:39] <nebket1> apparently they provide IP and search data on the Dash to 3rd parties...
[23:39] <CarlFK> Slyfooker: shush ;)
[23:39] <k1l> nebket1: very very very easy one. i think you didnt even look at that settings
[23:39] <vs73nx> ive been using ubuntu and the amazon adware doesn't get in my way...
[23:39] <Slyfooker> k
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> Nebket1: thats not true
[23:39] <nebket1> ok
[23:39] <mimarcu> *tools
[23:39] <vs73nx> and remember canonical is a commercial entity they need a stream of revenue...
[23:40] <nebket1> yeah, but do they need to follow Google's example?
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> Nebket1: just uninstall the feature. Done. Its only present if you use Unity so again, very easy to not use...
[23:41] <nebket1> http://www.canonical.com/aboutus/privacypolicy
[23:41] <MonkeyDust> discussion in #ubuntu-ooftopic please
[23:41] <nebket1> ok, sorry
[23:41] <Slyfooker> ding dong
[23:42] <puff> I'm on ubuntu 13.4 and ever since a big update a couple weeks ago, a) my wireless has been super-flaky and b) Xorg repeatedly spikes up into 100%+ load territory.
[23:42] <mercuryrising> ActionParsnip, does the computer directly ping Amazon to get the product results (wget amazon.com/?SEARCH_QUERY), or does it ping canonical who funnels all the requests then pings amazon? if the first, Ubuntu does give your information (search queries and IP addresses), as amazon's servers would need to know where to send the data
[23:42] <nebket1> how do I record MIDI output to an Ardour session?
[23:42] <CarlFK> mimarcu:  hooking a server to a login is odd.  I am pretty sure you want to log in (either local or ssh), start the server, log off, server keeps running - right ?
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> Mercuryrising: to my knowledge it goes to canonical and is sent from there to amazon
[23:43] <MonkeyDust> nebket1: if you don't get answer here, try the dedicated #ubuntustudio channel
[23:43] <nebket1> thanks ;)
[23:43] <mimarcu> yes exactly
[23:43] <nebket1> is there some sort of tool to link MIDI devices?
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> Mercuryrising: so amazon at most could collect all searches from canonical but the results and yourself and your individual results are not linked. Thus not spyware
[23:44] <nebket1> ok
[23:44] <mimarcu> i guess i could remove the tools menu..
[23:44] <Slyfooker> I love my Ubuntu2
[23:44] <bekks> Slyfooker: Whats Ubuntu2?
[23:45] <CarlFK> mimarcu: I would setup minecraft however the minecraft guru's suggest, which I am sure is well documented somewhere
[23:45] <Slyfooker> everybody who love Ubuntu, raise yer hand
[23:45] <CarlFK> mimarcu: you wanted something else too.. like on ssh connections?
[23:46] <mercuryrising> not directly, but I'm sure they also get the OS, the software version, and other identifying information. Then if you log into Amazon, they can link that information with your search bar information
[23:46] <MonkeyDust> Slyfooker: drop the random comments, please
[23:46] <Slyfooker> ..
[23:46] <mercuryrising> as they'll be getting requests from the same IP, the same OS, the same XYZ
[23:47] <mimarcu> im just new to setting up a minecraft server and i wanted my server to auto start and be easy to administer.
[23:47] <nebket1> MonkeyDust: Seems no one is available @ubuntustudio...
[23:48] <mimarcu> but i couldnt find any good server WUI's for minecraft
[23:48] <k1l> mercuryrising: please see: http://www.sharpley.org.uk/blog/ubuntu-search
[23:48] <mimarcu> that were free at least >.>
[23:50] <DarkAceLaptop> is there a way to add combinations to my compose key?
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> Mercuryrising: again, that is just an idea. The search comes from canonical so the server doing the search is all amazon sees. Try taking off the tinfoil hat
[23:51] <macs> is it bad that the 13.10 64 bit ISO i just downloaded is less than 50 MB?
[23:51] <vs73nx> yes it is
[23:51] <macs> phew glad i caught that
[23:51] <vs73nx> what link did you use...
[23:52] <dondopa> DAE experience bugs in Ubuntu when they turn on their laptops
[23:52] <CarlFK> mimarcu: I would google "minecraft server ubuntu"  and look for some 1,2,3 steps
[23:52] <dondopa> In Ubuntu 13.10
[23:52] <dondopa> ?
[23:53] <vs73nx> do you need a server wui... why not command line
[23:53] <mercuryrising> im not worried at all, i was curious as to how it works (through amazon or through canonical). I already removed all the lenses from my machine. thanks for the link k1l
[23:53] <macs> the official one. It's wierd because I'm using Chrome, so I think if I accidentally pressed "stop" it would say "cancelled", but there is no such notification and it looks completed as usual, except for the suspicious file size
[23:53] <mercuryrising> is the amazon stuff open source?
[23:53] <vs73nx> or is wui command line
[23:53] <mercuryrising> errr amazon lens?
[23:53] <mimarcu> well thats what the tools menu was for vs73nx
[23:53] <vs73nx> macs: try using wget to download the link
[23:54] <nebket1> or try Firefox
[23:54] <macs> vs73nx: I am downloading from ubuntu.com right now (20 min left). It says the total file size is 883 MB, so I hope it will not mess up this time. If it messes up again i will try wget. thanks
[23:54] <vs73nx> no problem
[23:56] <CarlFK> how do I delete the gconf database?
[23:56] <mimarcu> well ill be back
[23:56] <nebket1> is there good tutorials for Ardour?
[23:57] <nebket1> and JACK audio session, since I'm using MIDI
[23:57] <nebket1> i
[23:57] <nebket1> I'm asking here because #ubuntustudio is empty
[23:58] <Beldar> CarlFK, Not sure you want to remove that.
[23:59] <CarlFK> Beldar: well, I want to fix.. my problem:   to set my clock and figure out why the gui is broken, cuz it errored: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6532271/  unknown dconf database description: user  ... The key is not writable