[00:50] <circ-user-b7neg> I'm running Ubuntu 13.10 Server, and have installed ubuntu-desktop.  When the server boots up it goes straight into the Desktop login GUI.  I was wondering if its possible to prevent that from happening, and instead be faced with the traditional black login command screen?
[00:51] <stratus_ss> sure it is
[00:51] <stratus_ss> there are a couple of ways you can do that
[00:52] <stratus_ss> you can boot into init 3, which by default doesnt use the gui, second, you can adjust the display manager, such as GDM, MDM or LightDM
[00:52] <stratus_ss> the simplist (not best) way to achieve this is to move the /etc/init.d/gdm file to another name
[00:53] <circ-user-b7neg> I've read suggestions online, however I'm looking for the "safest" method.  I'd like to be able to start the desktop from the command screen when and if i need
[00:53] <stratus_ss> sure, that makes sense, working with the display manager is usually best
[00:53] <stratus_ss> typing "startx" will always launch your gui
[00:53] <stratus_ss> as long as you have a gui to launch
[00:55] <stratus_ss> alternatively you can use grub
[00:55] <stratus_ss> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text"
[00:55] <circ-user-b7neg> im going to try the grub method first, and then i'll report back
[00:56] <stratus_ss> used to be i just never installed the display manager
[03:11] <darkxst> stratus_ss, hi
[03:12] <stratus_ss> hey dark, I have some questions regarding the build process
[03:13] <stratus_ss> I have worked my way through most of the debian maintainers guide, as well as the ubuntu how to
[03:13] <stratus_ss> and several how tos on pbuilder
[03:14] <stratus_ss> however I cant seem to get anything other than simple things ("bc" for example) to actually successfully build
[03:14] <darkxst> stratus_ss, do you have the PPA's installed?
[03:15] <darkxst> either in the config file, or you can do it runtime when running 'update'
[03:15] <stratus_ss> dark, ---> this one v
[03:15] <stratus_ss> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/gnome3-team/gnome3-staging/ubuntu trusty main
[03:15] <stratus_ss> or do you mean in the /etc/pbuilderrc
[03:16] <darkxst> stratus_ss, I do it like this "pbuilder-dist trusty amd64 update --override-config --othermirror "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/gnome3-team/gnome3-staging/ubuntu trusty main|deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/gnome3-team/gnome3-next/ubuntu trusty main"
[03:17] <darkxst> since I switch between different configs (trusty, trusty+ppa, etc) so its easier to just have a few different update scripts
[03:18] <darkxst> stratus_ss, if you do have the ppa installed, pastebin the build log (~/pbuilder/trusty_result/last_operation.log)
[03:19] <stratus_ss> what I am ultimately trying to acheive is understanding the backporting process, which if i understand correctly, is what is used to feed the ppa
[03:19] <darkxst> we are not backporting! we are ahead of ubuntu ;)
[03:20] <stratus_ss> ok, i guess to my way of thinking is we are "backporting" the source to deb
[03:20] <stratus_ss> or rather the upstream
[03:20] <darkxst> ok, backporting is not really the term
[03:21] <stratus_ss> ok, my appologies
[03:21] <darkxst> but the build system mostly handles the source side of things
[03:21] <stratus_ss> then to be more verbose, i want to be able to build the dependencies to be able to provide those to the ppa
[03:21] <darkxst> when you do uupdate -v 3.10.2 tarball
[03:21] <darkxst> all the dependencies should be there already for 3.10.x
[03:22] <stratus_ss> n00b question -> who creates them in the first place
[03:22] <darkxst> btw, just to go back a few steps, you will need to use the saucy pocket to build 3.10.x for the timebeing "i.e. deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/gnome3-team/gnome3-staging/ubuntu saucy main"
[03:23] <darkxst> stratus_ss, we update them from ubuntu or debian as required
[03:23] <darkxst> stratus_ss, or even better use a saucy pbuilder ;)
[03:24] <darkxst> I am going to start copying 3.10 packages into trusty pocket, but haven't started yet.
[19:40] <Schrodinger`Cat> hey
[19:41] <Schrodinger`Cat> is ubuntu-gnome team have found enough devs to be able to continue the project ?