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knightwisemorning05:26
shaunobarely.  go back to sleep!05:39
mapppshey05:55
mapppssleep time for me soon:P05:55
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popeymng09:39
MartijnVdSgmng 8-)09:40
foobarryhttp://imgur.com/gallery/pvIJ57a10:40
foobarry:D10:40
foobarryhttp://windoge.com/10:41
foobarryfirst time i've seen this10:41
brobostigongood morning everyone.10:46
foobarryhello brobostigon10:51
foobarryi think everyone is out today10:51
brobostigonmorning foobarry10:51
foobarrywhats happening today>?10:56
Myrtticar shoppin11:04
foobarryis that \o/ or /o\11:08
foobarryi was scanning in some photos my dad left behind and as i took one out of the frame, i found a hidden one of my nan, probably taken in 1930s/40s :)11:12
popeyo/11:13
foobarryhttp://i.imgur.com/tdrx0Fa.jpg11:14
foobarryive tried colourising one but i wasnt v good11:14
foobarryhttp://i.imgur.com/q5q3Xi5.jpg11:15
foobarryturns out its quite hard11:15
popeyhttp://en.reddit.com/r/ColorizationRequests11:20
foobarrynot sure what going rate is11:20
popeyscan through some existing requests11:20
foobarryjust says PM and discuss, i was trawling a few last night11:21
popeyhttp://en.reddit.com/user/RDSKNS seems quite active11:24
popeysaw some of his previous stuff11:24
popeyhttp://i.imgur.com/blDdcwl.png11:24
foobarrycool ta i will look11:25
Myrttifoobarry: /o\11:30
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foobarry EP0618540 on a “common name space for long and short filenames” is invalid in its entirety (including Microsoft’s proposed amendments) because the court found that all of the elements distinguishing the patented invention from the prior art (which includes a Linus Torvalds post to a mailing list) did not satisfy the technicity requirement under European patent law.13:23
foobarryFAT patent prior art \o/13:23
brobostigonhow do i get rid of widgets off the desktop on android 4.4?13:27
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: long-press, then drag them to the trash can at the top13:36
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: same as removing icons13:36
brobostigonthank you MartijnVdS13:36
brobostigonam having a play with cm-11-m1 on my nexus713:40
* foobarry wonders if b&q still sell sugru13:42
foobarrybrobostigon: also if you long hold while the icon is on the trash can, you can uninstall apps too13:42
brobostigoninteresting.13:44
MartijnVdShttp://i.imgur.com/NPacWrV.png14:15
brobostigonlol14:16
brobostigonfound a bug, in landscape orientation the remove thing doesnt appear, but in portrait shows up fine.14:21
knightwiseafternoon ladies14:58
brobostigonafternoodlings knightwise15:04
mappsbrr prety cold today!16:38
foobarryits OK in london16:38
penguin42yeh seems warm up here in Manc16:38
MartijnVdSIt's ice cold in .nl16:38
MartijnVdSnot quite freezing16:39
MartijnVdSbut it feels like it16:39
mappsseems cold here in Stoke16:39
mappsjust wokeup and went downstairs and house is cold16:39
* foobarry has central heating16:39
MartijnVdSfoobarry: well yes, inside..16:39
foobarrywish i could go back to bed16:39
MartijnVdSfoobarry: but I have to go outside soon :|16:39
mappsI'm going to nl next week ..i expected it to be cold16:39
MartijnVdSmapps: hah, I'm on London next week 8-)16:40
mappsand whats with all the non UK in here1! thought it was ubuntu-uk (im just kidding ) :)16:40
mappscool16:40
MartijnVdSon? in!16:40
mappswhere in Holland are you?16:40
foobarryjust had to stand in a feidl for 30 mins throwing a ball for the dog16:40
MartijnVdSmapps: in "Alphen aan den Rijn"16:40
foobarrymmm alpen16:40
mappsI'm staying in some crummy hotel in leidseplein16:40
mappslol foobarry16:41
MartijnVdSmapps: in the most expensive bit of the city, then16:41
foobarrymmmm lederhosen16:41
mappsleidseplein ? i dont know16:41
mappsi just know it said16:41
mappslots of bars/restaurants around16:41
MartijnVdSmapps: it's in the middle of the "food for tourists" area16:41
mappsah yes16:41
MartijnVdSmapps: check out paradiso.nl and melkweg.nl -- they're both right next to Leidseplein :)16:41
foobarryi just dicsovered that eating lebkuchen followed by marzipan is super scrummy and christmassy16:42
mappsso all those clubs in leidseplein do normal dutch people go there? or not?16:42
mappswant to go to places that arent just tourists16:42
MartijnVdSmapps: rarely. Melkweg and Paradiso are popular with everyone though16:42
MartijnVdSmapps: but they're more concert venues16:42
mappsah yes i heard of paradiso16:42
foobarrylol i went to eindhoven and they wanted to go to amsterdam or maastricht for a night out. i said why not the bars here? we're only here for the weekend16:42
mappsah16:42
mappsheh foobarry  :D16:43
mappsits just nice to not go to places toutists only go16:43
mappsprefer going where the locals would go too16:43
foobarrywhy you there?16:44
foobarryfamily trip?16:44
foobarryshexy weekend?16:44
mappsna just a trip with a friend going for 3 nights/4 days16:44
MartijnVdSmapps: I don't know any of those.. I only work in Amsterdam, I don't live there ;)16:44
mappsaha16:45
mappsits like in Prague the bars in the main area asre as my czch friend puts it 'tourist traps'16:45
mappsand no czech people go there lol hardly surprisinggiven the ripoff prices16:45
* penguin42 was in Munich Monday/Tuesday - didn't get too much time to look around, wasn't as cold as people had warmed me it would be16:45
MartijnVdSmapps: I'm never going back to Prague. Horrible city imho.16:45
mappsreally?16:46
mappsI likd it a lot16:46
foobarrywould it be nice if nobody else was there?16:46
foobarryi watched a programme about stag parties in prague16:46
foobarrynot pleasant16:46
mappswell foobarry except yea noral uk bar fine..but goin abroad you dont wanna go to some bar and pay ripoff prices on your own16:47
MartijnVdSfoobarry: Everything was black and grimy.. nobody seemed to understand/speak any language in common with me16:47
mappsah i didnt go anywhere like that16:47
MartijnVdSbeer was cheap, that's a plus.. but meh16:47
foobarrythey also reckoned the stats are that if a stag party is going from UK -> prague then the chances are around 50% that the groom sleeps with a prossie16:47
mappsyea thats true MartijnVdS16:47
mappsumm16:47
foobarryhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03cwv1l16:48
mappswhen i was in prage i was surprised how few people understood me and could speak english..retal workers/bars/clubs a bit..but not much16:48
mappsand some people..nothing AT ALL16:48
mappslike MartijnVdS  said16:48
mappsbut my friend on the other hand..he can speak english fluently..he lived here for a year..he's 34..bu his girlfriend ..25 can barely understand me i had to speak incredibly slow and 'broken english'16:48
mappsim of the opinion his wont be the case in Holland..like it wouldnt be in sweden/denmark/norway?16:49
lornajanemapps: in NL you will find English in most places, definitely16:49
mappsyea16:49
MartijnVdSIf not all..16:49
mappsyou learn it at school?16:49
MartijnVdSyeah16:49
mappsyea i thought so16:49
mappsi think in czech it's optional16:50
MartijnVdSand from reading Dutch subtitles to American TV shows 8-)16:50
mappswhich is crazy16:50
mapps:D16:50
mappsi assumed they would learn it in school and understand a bit at least16:50
lornajanewhen I go to NL for technical events, they are nearly all in English and everyone can do small talk just as nicely in either language16:50
MartijnVdSI know a few people who've learned Dutch (or tried), and they complained people just switched to English, instead of letting them try their Dutch 8-)16:50
foobarrydutch is considered v hard16:50
foobarryso we learned french instead16:51
lornajanemapps: the Czech republic hasn't been particularly western-facing until recent decades, I expect that will change.  Just like in Spain, my generation speaks English but their parents spoke French16:51
mappsbut i guess a lot dont care. apparently some are scared to try their english in czech and one girl in particular called Petra ..we were in a small bare in prague and she's just looking a me blank faced and then says 'your accent funny'16:51
mappsLOL16:51
foobarryi speak some russki16:51
mappshey lornajane  yea that makes sense - but ihe's 34..id have thought a 25 year old girl would be better? also ..when i was in Majorca..ok it's not mainland Spain..the average person there had poor english16:52
mappsand ofte drew blank stares16:52
lornajaneI dunno, I don't really expect people in other places to speak English16:52
lornajanecertainly I'm much happier going to NL than anywhere else for that reason though16:52
penguin42the Germans mostly seem to speak good English16:52
mappsyea16:53
mappsand the scandos!16:53
MartijnVdSwith heavy German accents 8-)16:53
foobarryYESSS stoke 3 v 2 chelsea16:53
mappseveryone swede/dane ive met at work has had great english16:53
mappslornajane,  i do when it's tourist areas and most of their business seems to be from tourists16:53
mappsi kinda expect a decent level of english16:53
penguin42(the only one that didn't was a checkout worker at a supermarket - but the till told me the right amount, but why don't they have self scans....)16:54
MartijnVdSpenguin42: I hate self-scans16:54
penguin42MartijnVdS: I love them!16:54
foobarryunexpected item in bagging area16:54
MartijnVdSpenguin42: I'm always in line behind a technophone16:54
mappshm i do and i dont..it's convenient at times..but then it's also doing someone out of a job16:54
penguin42MartijnVdS: Oh it was like that when they were introduced a few years ago here, but they've been here for so long it's not a problem any more16:54
penguin42MartijnVdS: and anyway the technophobes go to the meetbag line16:55
foobarrythere's a minimum lengh of time for those self  checkout, which is far longer than throwing exacg change at a person16:55
foobarryi'm buying one item, why do i have to put it in bagging area16:55
foobarrybefore paying16:55
mappsbut what if they just made it all self serve16:55
mappsand d away with lots of retail workers16:56
mappsthat wouldn't be good - wouldn't affect me much but still16:56
foobarryever bought 200 items at once?16:56
mappsdont think so16:56
foobarryit would take forever on those crappy self serve things16:56
mappsyea16:56
foobarrymassive queues16:56
foobarrymost shopping is in that format16:57
penguin42foobarry: Oh I generally have the ones I know down to seconds in the selfscan for one item16:57
mappswith the pesky weight thing too saying 'please put the item on' when it already is16:57
foobarryweekly shops for family16:57
mappsgot 2 holidays left from my holiday allowance for this year:D16:57
penguin42but yeh I do use them for a handful of items rather than a full shop16:57
foobarrygot 1 day.. plus 5 days which i will carry16:57
mappsi just use them for small stuff normally16:58
mappsi do my big shop online anyway as i dont have a car16:58
mappsHolland - december ..Finland January..back to Majorca in March16:59
mappsshould be enough to remind me i have to keep working for a living16:59
mapps:)16:59
* foobarry doesn't have a pasport17:04
mapps:(17:04
mappsexpired?17:04
foobarryfew years ago17:05
mappsright pita when ythey expire17:05
mappslike 60/70 quid aint it to renew?17:05
foobarryprobby 80+ now17:05
foobarrydnno17:05
foobarryyoung kids = estate car and roobbox for holidays17:06
mappsroobox?17:06
MartijnVdSroof box?17:08
mappsoh17:09
mappsthat makres sense yea17:09
MartijnVdSwe call them "grandmother storage boxes" in my family17:09
mappshoorah17:10
mappsgot cgiirc working so i can irc from work17:10
mappsheh17:10
mappsanyone know which file to edit to change the title yhat appears in the browser17:12
mappswould prefer it to just say blank page :D17:12
MartijnVdS<title> in <head> .. probably easy to grep?17:13
mappshow could i grep the entire testing dir including subdirs?17:13
MartijnVdSgrep -r17:13
mappstesting is where i put it17:13
mappsah17:13
mappsthanks17:13
mappsgrep -r title> * ?17:14
MartijnVdSno17:15
MartijnVdSbecause > is special in shell17:15
mappsah of course17:15
MartijnVdSyou have to escape it, using \ (so \>), or quote the entire argument 'like this'17:15
mappsfound it;D mozzila.pm17:16
mappsthanks mate17:16
mappshttp://94.193.78.219/testing or https://94.193.78.219/testing work for people? seems to when i tried17:24
MartijnVdSasks for a password on http17:24
MartijnVdShttps complains about the cert17:24
mappsthanks mate17:24
mappsyea17:24
mappsit would do as its generated myself and not signedby a 3rd party17:24
mappsbut for me thats fine..i know its safe and wont complain:D17:25
foobarrychinese takeaway tonight :) not sure what to get17:30
MartijnVdSfoobarry: Chinese food.17:30
MartijnVdSfoobarry: asking for pizza would be awkward :P17:30
foobarryits actually cantonese ;)17:32
popey\o/ nibbles17:33
mappslol17:44
mappsfoobarry, nandos is better!17:44
ali1234mapps: don't use regexp to parse html17:45
mappshm why? all i wanted was to find where title tag is so i could edit tyhe file17:46
ali1234i guess that's ok17:46
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map|work;]19:04
map|workcgiirc working finally :D tried to get webirc working some ajax one but wouldnt work so gave up19:04
map|workbut question..its using SSL on my box..so work cant snoop on what im doing? between work and my machine?19:05
penguin42did they install your machine?19:37
map|workmy work one yea19:38
penguin42so they probably installed their own CA certs19:38
map|workcrappy windows machine ..but im connecting to my home server over SSL19:38
map|workbut wait.i mean im connecting to my home server using ssl using my certs19:39
penguin42how do you know you're using your certs?19:39
map|workwell im connecting to my machines web server using SSL i generated the SSL cert myself so surely i am19:39
map|workhttps://94.193.78.219/19:40
penguin42map|work: But you could have a man-in-the-middle, i.e. your company could get you to connect to something that signs it with something linked to their cert and then makes a new outward connection to your machine19:40
map|workhmm how would that happen though? surely theyd have to redirect me to somewhere else before connecting to my server19:41
map|workand my chrome window says its using my certificate when i click the information19:41
penguin42yeh but that's easily done19:41
penguin42hmm if it says it's using your certificate and the data shown on that certificate (including all the fingerprints) then it probably isn't being intercepted19:42
map|workyea ut says its mine..I mean it says error could be insecure..but thats just because my cert isnt signedby a 3rd party CA i believe19:43
penguin42right, but a man-in-the-middle could generate another self-signed to give to you with the same sig19:44
map|workso lets assume they arent trying to MITM me..there's probably more for them to do big company 2200 employees19:44
map|workyea19:44
map|workok but asusming they arent and its using my SSL cert my communicayion between work and my server is encrypted?19:44
penguin42yeh, assuming they haven't got something else installed on your machine monitoring it19:44
map|workthanks19:44
daftykinsyou're at work - you should be working! :)19:45
map|workwell they have remote desktop software..but it tells me when someone connects co i can just quickly close a tap or minimise etc19:45
map|workdafty im doing my job aswell though..right now:) but i can also irc so i see nothing wrongh19:45
map|worki read my news sites using feedly at work and all too..aslong as i dont make errors and do my job who cares19:46
penguin42if you had evil admins they could insert dummy stories in your feed19:46
daftykins:D yeah i'm just teasing19:46
daftykinspenguin42: lmao - ones about getting sacked due to misapproriation of business resources XD19:47
penguin42daftykins: Nod19:47
map|worklol19:47
penguin42personalised19:48
map|workthat wouldnt be nice:)19:48
map|workhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57614864-71/busboys-mom-throws-ipad-in-fire-customer-buys-him-new-one/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=title lol19:48
daftykinsi still need to try out inoreader - i'm not fond of feedly needing a net connection permanently19:48
map|worki used tio use google reader but obv cant anymore..i love feedly19:49
map|workworks well imo19:49
* penguin42 uses newsblur19:49
map|workhadnt even heard of it..looking now..web based?19:50
penguin42web, android app and I think some others19:51
map|worknice - what do you use browser wise..I used to use ff only..but now mainly chrome just because i can login to my google ac and synch bookmarks at home/work/ipad/phone19:51
penguin42ff I was using chrome for a while but it got too buggy for me19:53
map|workyea i do find flash crashes from time to time and sometimes everything runs slow as hell if ive got say 15-20 tabs open19:54
map|workwhat you using now19:54
map|workback in a bit19:57
map|workhttp://www.businessinsider.com/smartphone-controlled-paper-airplane-2013-1220:03
map|workthat seems mad cool20:03
* popey backed it20:04
map|worknice20:04
map|worki'd only just heard of it..no point in backing now i guess it raised 9x over what he asked? he only asked for $50,00020:05
map|workwill definitely buy one though20:05
skellatAlanBell: Congratulations.  I just clicked off on verification and all that so Ubuntu UK should be good for 2 years hence.20:20
popeyʘ‿ಠ20:36
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)20:36
daftykinsmorning D:20:41
bigcalmIs it?20:41
daftykinsthat's more what i was asking :)20:42
bigcalmI've completely forgotten why I came to my office20:46
daftykinsD:20:52
daftykinsis it dark and are you alone?20:52
bigcalmWife is watching trashy TV20:53
bigcalmGood reason me for to hide in my office20:53
popeyo/20:53
bigcalmAhoy20:53
daftykinshahaha20:55
daftykinsbigcalm: you should get one of those 3D TVs that lets each specs wearer watch a different source20:55
daftykins\o/20:55
bigcalmI don't watch a lot of telly20:56
AlanBellthanks skellat21:02
diddledanyawnicles21:35
diddledanamazon elastic beanstalk is.. pretty awesome21:35
diddledanit's their standard IaaS offering wrapped in a PaaS box21:36
diddledan<321:36
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map|workhm22:16
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/6l84owi1lzcr94m/IMG_20131207_214549.jpg22:16
daftykinsmore Christmas lights from the Guernsey high-street22:16
map|workoh god damn22:17
map|workApplication Blocked  Access to the application you were trying to use has been blocked in accordance with company policy. Please contact your system administrator if you believe this is in error.22:17
map|workApplication: web-browsing22:17
map|worklol22:17
daftykinshahaha22:18
daftykinsoops22:18
map|workit's pretty annoying loads is blocked..sourceforge comes up as being blocked for email22:18
map|workor some nonsense22:18
daftykins=/22:19
map|workya tis annoying22:19
map|workyet twitter isnt blocked and there's filth on there22:19
daftykinsi'm sure it's just some automated blacklist they operate22:21
daftykinsrather than being manual choices made22:21
map|workmore than likely ya22:22
map|workamuses me how there's so many different departments..service desk..'desktop engineers/release engineers22:23
map|workengineers? using windows..pah22:23
popeywow, pretty daftykins22:23
daftykinspopey: they say it costs £40k a year to put the town lights up >_<22:24
map|workput it somewhere elseso i can see;[22:24
daftykinshrmm, can you get to imgur.com ?22:24
daftykinsor tinypic.com22:24
map|worksec22:24
map|workimgur yea22:25
shaunoI Wonder how much of that 40k is just unionized manhours22:26
daftykinsshauno: they make the fire brigade put them up!22:33
ali1234i wonder how much of it got paid to insurance companies22:33
map|workwho turned them on though..which thrilling z lister;p22:34
daftykinsmap|work: http://i.imgur.com/RJ2qxVU.jpg22:35
daftykinssorry for the delay, i went off to make a hot chocolate!22:35
map|workThousands of people descended on Jubilee Square on Thursday evening (November 22) to witness Woking's Christmas lights being switched on by CBeebies star Justin Fletche22:35
map|workseems early22:35
map|worki dont even know who that is lol22:35
map|worknice,t hanks22:35
daftykins:)22:38
daftykinsi don't know people anymore - its passed me by22:38
map|workya i didnt recognise that name nor did i know the lights were on22:39
map|workI go to town so infrequently , I don't have any need to ..online banking..online groceries ...online shopping for everything else i buy ..what would i go for lol22:40
map|workso i can buy something for more than I'd pay on amazon? pah! ..22:40
arsenimpressive street daftykins22:40
daftykinsjust one road over from home!22:41
daftykins'tis the hill descending to the high-street :)22:41
map|worki saw some house where it was like totally covered..and costs them thousands to light up22:43
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map|workhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2516512/The-Christmas-countdown-begun-Britains-festive-street-switches-100-000-fairy-lights.html22:43
arsenthere's a house up the hill from mine, totally nuts lighting - 99% of the house covered, flagpoles erected to suspend chain lights around the rest of the area too lol22:43
diddledanheh, he said flagpole22:44
* diddledan sniggers22:44
map|workthis is it!!22:45
map|workhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2497814/Meet-man-heats-home-thousands-FAIRY-LIGHTS-Twelfth-Night.html22:45
map|workpeople go crazy with xmas lights eh22:45
map|workhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1338033/The-house-MILLION-Christmas-lights.html22:45
arsenwow. just wow.22:48
map|workbeing that im such a cheery person i have no tree up , no decorations or lights and dont plan on changing it22:48
map|work:)22:48
arsenlol22:48
daftykinsarsen: heh sounds crazy22:49
arsenwell, i gave in this xmas, gona try and enjoy it - i do like the nostalgia of christmas and old 90's xmas films.22:49
map|worki live on my own , have no kids and no partnr so figured why bother22:49
arsenwhat did it was walking home the other day and i smelt smoke from a proper woodburner burning some nice wood.22:50
arsennot a bad attitude, you can do as you so choose.22:50
arseni've done plenty of xmas working, missing out and being bored or alone - so this year i'm getting involved in whatever's going.22:50
arsensaying that - i think i'm the only person i know in London tonight not out drinking, travelling, doing things.. merely sat here on my tod!22:52
daftykinsi just don't even own any decorations yet22:52
daftykinsso there's nothing at mine ;x22:52
arsenplastic tree + fairy lights is the best place to start, it's good mood lighting if nothing else.22:52
map|workarsen do you live alone tho?22:53
arsennay, Mrs has gone out with her mates.22:53
map|workdafty do you live on your own too? just you say no decorations22:53
daftykinsmap|work: yeah been in my place since March now, so it's my first Christmas away22:54
arseni'll be going back to the parents for xmas - i like bumming around in a tidy house where everything is sorted and the fridge is full!22:55
daftykins:D22:56
map|workah right cool22:56
map|workil be at my place22:56
daftykinsit's kinda weird 'cause the last house i had was in Portsmouth of course22:56
daftykinsso being able to be in my own place *and* cycle to my parents is - novel :D22:56
map|workliving the dream..normal routine with a few tims of strongbow:D22:56
daftykinshehe22:57
arsenspeaking of which, gona order a curry and crack open my crabbies.22:57
map|worklike ...i dont do anyn xmas food shopping..my shopping is just the same..i dont order anything diff/buy any xmas garbage22:57
map|workjust the basics and some good old booze22:57
map|workwhere'd you live now dafty?22:57
daftykinswell i was in Portsmouth for Uni with mr.arsen there :D22:57
daftykinsi grew up on and now live back here on Guernsey22:57
map|workah and arsen where you at?22:58
arsenLondon these days :)22:58
map|workwhen did you finish uni then?22:58
penguin42map|work: See, I'm just the same but without the booze22:59
arsenarh crap - out of beer and the shops just shut :(22:59
map|workpenguin42 another lone ranger?22:59
penguin42map|work: Nod22:59
map|workarsen/dafty when did you finish!!22:59
arsen~09?23:00
arsensomewhere around then.23:00
map|workah23:00
map|workwell well well ..how strange, I too went to Portsmouth Uni, lived in Harry Law halls (behind yates's) then down Fawcett Road in my 2nd year23:00
map|worki finished before you young'uns then23:00
map|work2007 i was done and enterred that fun thing we call ...work;/23:00
arseni was meant to graduate 08 i think, but i re-sat final year for a laugh.23:00
penguin42srarted work in 9723:00
map|workpenguin42 - you're just old23:01
map|work:D23:01
MartijnVdS*in* 97, not *at* 97 :P23:01
daftykinsarsen: ah i didn't know that :)23:01
daftykinsmap|work: yeah i escaped '0823:01
daftykinsbut i also went late23:01
map|worki liked it down in portsmouth tbh..the registry / route 66 (1.50 pints of stella!!!) ..breakneck at the pier ...time and envy, tantrum & bar bluu23:01
* daftykins is 2823:01
map|workalthough tantrum bar bluu/time and envy now gone23:02
map|workmonday nights route 66 was kinda fun 20 quid and have a good night stumble home ..i loved the fact it's not a campuse based uni and all the buildings arwe scattered around23:02
arsenpretty much, map|work - i was there for all of that, and then the replacement stuff :)23:02
arsencan't complain - i had a great time, i'd do it all again exactly the same if i could.23:02
map|worknever been to any of the rest..i did like breakneck though..Jongleurs /Tiger Tiger - both sucked..I actually worked at Yates's in my 2nd year half way through then went to tiger tiger23:03
map|workThe Honest Politician/One eyed dog - id assume those are still there..u go them?23:03
arsenhah, i worked at tiger for a year in my firstyear i think.23:03
arsenyep. scary how many drinking joints i knew vveerrrry well.23:03
map|workcrap wages, crap pay , boring job..and managers that dont realise they've got a crap job that means nothing23:04
map|workthats what irritated me most about crap jobs..the managers that seem to think theyre somehow doing something amazing..and are incredibly successful :)23:04
arsenyeah - i came from a few nice cocktail bars up north to a trampy tiger tiger club that thought very highly of itself heh.23:04
map|workwhat building were you in..Anglesea here..ECE!23:04
daftykinsmap|work: yep that's where i was :)23:05
daftykinsi did comp network management and design23:05
map|workyep ...it was barmy..but what was MORE BARMY..people paying a fiver to enter tiger tger on weekends and pay stupid prices a double vodka redbull was like 8quid or something ..like ROFL23:05
arseni dropped the bar work and went to work at Novatech part time.23:05
map|workI'll give that a miss..seriously im paying a fiver to then PAY expensive prices? #mugs23:05
arsendiscount on PC components, basically :)23:05
map|workI would've been in some of yourlectures then..had we been the same year23:05
map|workumm remember Shikhun Zhou lol he made me laugh..I liked Martin Cripps..Nick Savage / thought Chi was a good lecturer too23:06
arsenequally crappy job, mind you. awful bloke incharge of sales team, i quit when i was told off for offering honest advice to a bloke wanting to buy his kids a PC for xmas and couldnt afford £££23:06
map|workyep retail is just lie lie lie and say anything to get peoples money..23:06
arseni did the classic hollywood style "you can shove your job.." and walked out :D23:07
daftykinsmap|work: ah man Dr. Zhou was ace - permanent smile on his face even when he was angry at you23:08
arsento think people actually did that job for a career is very depressing.23:08
map|workyea lol23:08
map|worksame with bar work though mate..when i worked at yates's and the people there take it seriously..like come on it's a crap bar job..earning like 200quid a week before tax..yea what a life23:09
daftykinshe was the like, validation guy on my final project actually23:09
map|workeveryones your boss in those kinda jobs23:09
map|workLinda Yang was for me..if you know her23:09
daftykinscute asian lady?23:09
map|workyep23:09
arseni was CompSci so not ECE :D some great lecturers in there, some awful.23:09
map|workwas cripps still lecturing when you were there?23:09
daftykinsyep! the legend23:09
daftykinshe was highly amusing23:10
map|workCripps was pretty good , covered a shedload from his units alone imo23:10
daftykinsi'm glad i wasn't in his personal tutor group though, he used to talk them to death apparently23:10
daftykinswhereas i had the super depressed young Greek guy Ioannis Kagalidis23:10
map|workhahahahaha23:10
daftykinsi think he'd somehow got roped into it, as he had no idea what to do with us23:10
map|workthat taught Java?23:10
daftykinsyep23:12
map|work:)23:12
map|workquite liked Salems unit too / frank margrave was a bit of a tool23:14
map|workuni was good :)23:14
daftykinsheh Frank was so hated, he ended up being my supervisor for the final project though23:15
daftykinsi rewrote the computer labs with his new favourite - Xen instead of VMware23:15
daftykinsit was a walk in the park pretty much, thing wrote itself23:15
map|workbecause he was always 'look at me im so amazing' telling us how he was so good and he was going out on his boat tonight and he had a new quad core or whatever CPU at that time23:15
map|worktoo much of a showoff...and i turned up once without my uni ID..wasnt allowed to sit the computer based exam LOL but i got to do it later..23:16
penguin42map|work: You're right I'm old, I'm nearly as old as my nick's number23:17
map|work:)23:17
daftykinsthat happened to me 'cause Guernsey was always late submitting the details of who they were paying fees too, so i couldn't get my ID for a couple of weeks23:17
map|workwere u turned away from an exam?23:18
daftykinsnah Frank just looked kinda unimpressed then let me do it anyway23:18
daftykinsthere's a fun rumour that he was only in the area because of his wife's job :)23:19
map|workwork sucks compared to uni23:19
map|worki didnt even know his wif worked there23:19
daftykinsat the Uni? i had/have no idea where, just heard that once23:19
map|workoh23:19
arsenin the laziest fashion ever - i ordered a curry online using only the left mouse button.23:20
map|worklol just-eat?23:20
daftykinsbut yeah he was quite a character, one of my mates said the best way to deal with him was to realise that he was an ass to everyone :)23:20
arsensome random curry house i just found23:20
daftykinsXD23:20
daftykinsarsen: nice work sir23:20
daftykinseating at 11 D:23:21
map|workyep i think thats about right23:21
arsenyeah i forgot :/ got sidetracked fiddling with my litecoin mining rig :D23:21
map|worki did something stupid in my 1st year and after an exam had to speak to him..lol luckily we had like barely any time left of term..but i ran nmap from my account on lion.ee.port on another portasmouth.ee machine LOL23:21
map|workmy account was suspended for the end of that year23:22
daftykinsarsen: hehehe23:24
daftykinsmap|work: lmao23:24
arsennever built my own pc case before - worked out quite nicely.23:24
map|workyep i know stupid eh from an ee server to an ee machine under my username? LOL23:24
daftykinsmap|work: can you still SSH into ECE? they never seem to disable accounts23:24
map|worki wasnt actually trying to do anything just like curious23:24
map|workhmm sec23:24
map|workits uxxxxxx right?23:25
daftykinsyep23:25
daftykins6 digit23:25
daftykinsin fact you know what, i saw my U number on a local car reg plate the other day23:25
daftykinsas Guernsey plates are just numbers23:25
map|worklol23:25
daftykinsit was hilarious :D23:25
map|workna didnt work for me23:25
daftykinsit took me a few seconds to realise why i recognised it23:25
map|worku24900623:25
map|work=[23:25
map|workyou could see peoples uni id pictures too from the web portal23:25
arsenturns out the place i ordered from isnt the one i thoguht it was - so rather than ~200m from my house, it's more like 2 miles. damn.23:26
map|workthat was amusing..in a sad way23:26
daftykinsmap|work: ah yeah the ol' "hack"23:26
arsenearly facebook, map|work23:26
arsen;)23:26
map|workjust mess with the url and put diff numbers in lol23:26
daftykinscould've done a Mark Zuckerberg and made a comparison site23:26
arsenin campus hot-or-not23:26
daftykinsye \o/23:27
map|workas to litecoin is it worth bothering with? a ) can it be used many places b) there's already btc - thing is..surely its winner takes it all..is there room for more than one crypto currency and umm BTC dropped a lot in value yest23:27
daftykinsnot sure i believe the film one as saying it gridlocked the entire Uni's network :)23:27
arsenall cryptocoins dropped a tonne today. LTC cant be used in many places no, its value is somewhat dependent on the future success of BTC.23:28
daftykinsd'aww23:28
map|workyou reckon? but surely as BT gets better or if it does..there's only room for 1 as people will use the currency thats supported by most places23:28
arsenhowever i was too lazy to follow my instinct and mine bitcoin in the early days - i was too busy gaming.23:28
map|workchicken and egg scenario retailers dont use it as its not popular enough..users dont use it as not enough retailers support23:28
ali1234LTC value is entirely supported by people daytrading it against bitcoin23:28
map|workah23:29
ali1234same goes for all the other altcoins23:29
map|workhows that work?23:29
arseni worked out if i'd of spent a few weeks doing it, as is likely with my general "i get bored with everything pretty quickly" i'd still be sitting on a few hundred grand of bitcoins.23:29
ali1234you get some bitcoin and some litecoin, and you put it in an exchange, and you buy low and sell high23:29
map|workyea but whats the ltc usd for them23:29
arsenwell at the point they have a value significant enough, exchanges will start to offer trade against usd/gbp/eur etc.23:30
ali1234the btc/ltc rate has not changed significantly23:30
map|workaha23:30
map|workhow much easier is it to mine ltc than btc23:30
ali1234it was about 0.038 before the crash, now it is 0.03423:30
arsenmassively, map|work.23:30
ali1234it's about 0.035 times harder23:31
arsenwhereby BTC mining is now impossible without dedicated large ASICs, you can do LTC with high end GPU's and profit.23:31
ali1234BTC mining is not impossible23:31
map|workalso dunno if anyone knows but im using cgiirc and i edited mozilla.pm to change the title on the page it loads..using it from my server over ssl - but they record history downstairs and the page title would show up..and once i get to irc.cgi it shows cgil;irc #channame23:31
map|workdoes anyone know which file i need to edit to stop it23:31
arsenno its not, ali1234 - but its not gona make you much money unless you do it with an ASIC, or array of them - unless you have lots of free power.23:32
ali1234true23:32
ali1234the same is true of litecoin however23:33
arsena reasonable high end AMD GPU theoretically will cover its cost in ~30 days.23:33
ali1234lol23:33
ali1234no it won't23:33
ali1234only if you get free electricity is that true23:33
ali1234and in that case it would pay for itself with bitcoin in a similar timeframe23:34
ali1234those GPUs cost about $2 a day to run23:34
arsenas an example, my electricity cost for one GPU is ~£1,.60 a day, and it was returning almost £1523:35
arsenthough this is no longer true, as the price has changed dramatically.23:35
ali1234yeah..... in 2011 maybe23:35
arsenyesterday, ali1234.23:36
ali1234no, you did not mine $15 worth of litecoin in one day with one GPU23:37
daftykinsi saw a pound symbol personally23:38
arsenfrankly the price of LTC is fluctuating so much at the moment (and currently in a never ending spiral), it doesnt matter which currency symbol i use.23:38
daftykins:D23:39
daftykinsZimbabwe dorrah23:39
arseni actually mined about $41 worth, in just over one day, ali1234.23:40
arsenaccording to my wallet. but that LTC is no longer worth $41.23:40
ali1234that would require you getting about 2MH/s23:40
arsenalso pulled in around $25 worth of primecoin.23:41
arsenalmost, ali1234.23:41
ali1234that's over double what the best GPU can do23:41
arsenim getting about 1600 in one rig, plus a few 4700k's.23:43
arsenerk, 4770k's23:44
ali1234a rig typically means several GPUs, usually 4, 6, or 8, and is going to cost you well over $10/day to run23:44
arseni'm not claiming miracles, that USD value only existed when LTC was at $41, its now only just above half that.23:45
ali1234yeah, as i said, the btc/ltc rate has barely changed23:46
ali1234the best way to mine currently is to jump on every new altcoin as soon as it is released, then dump them as soon as they list on any excahnge23:54

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