[00:00] <k1l> mercuryrising: see http://developer.ubuntu.com/scopes/
[00:00] <Beldar> CarlFK, I would ask for help on the actual issue than assume a remove is all, not sure of a fix though.
[00:00] <CarlFK> Beldar: l got a new laptop, installed sausy, then rsyned me@old:/home /home
[00:00] <nebket1> that sounds bad
[00:00] <CarlFK> Beldar: did that a day or so ago, no help, so trying to beat this into submission
[00:00] <nebket1> just the wording...
[00:01] <CarlFK> Beldar: the problem is I can't enable seconds - a symptom of the cause:  the 'x
[00:01] <CarlFK> er
[00:01] <CarlFK> the [x]seconds option is disabled in the gui (along with most of the options)
[00:02] <Beldar> CarlFK, generally no help comes down to bad descriptions and lack of details. and let me repeat I do not know of ant fix.
[00:02] <Beldar> any*
[00:06] <Payton> Beldar: I'm in the shell or whatever, what do I do to boot it up>
[00:06] <Payton> ?
[00:08] <Beldar> Payton, This a vbox boot, and have you checked the sum?
[00:09] <Beldar> Payton, I have always had ubuntu boot in a vbox so not sure of any options beyond making sure the iso is good.
[00:09] <MonkeyHobo> Is a single iteration enough when using shred to wipe a HD?
[00:10] <CarlFK> MonkeyHobo: depends on who is trying to dig ;)
[00:10] <MonkeyHobo> Probably no one, it's just an old wreck i'm giving away to a friend.
[00:11] <MonkeyHobo> I'm just curious since I can't see how a bit could ever be anything else than 1 or 0. If it's been written as 0 once how could anyone ever dig up what was there before?
[00:12] <Beldar> MonkeyHobo, I think your fine, run testdisk on it to see what shows
[00:12] <CarlFK> MonkeyHobo: bits are 0/1, but a pile of iron shavings can be all sorts of things
[00:13] <MonkeyHobo> "iron shavings"?
[00:14] <CarlFK> MonkeyHobo: what the bits are saved in (the stuff on the spinny disk)
[00:15] <MonkeyHobo> Hmmm, still baffles me that it's possible to regain prior bits...
[00:15] <Beldar> MonkeyHobo, There is legit research on this issue, uh you wont find it here.
[00:15] <MonkeyHobo> I don't doubt that, it's just beyond my knowledge...
[00:16] <Beldar> MonkeyHobo, You will get subjective assumed opinions here, hardly worth the time to be honest
[00:16] <MonkeyHobo> Anyway, I have limited time and the HD is 500 gigs, so I guess 1 iteration is all I got...
[00:16] <CarlFK> MonkeyHobo: start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_forensics
[00:18] <Gerowen> So when I'm burning, or attempting to burn, an audio CD with Brasero, why does Brasero just freeze at "Normalizing Tracks" and never actually do anything?  When running it from a terminal, the only output I get occurs when adding any track which is: "** (brasero:15692): CRITICAL **: brasero_track_type_equal: assertion 'type_B != NULL' failed"
[00:19] <PatrickDickey> Hi everyone. Quick question. I installed Ubuntu Server on my laptop, and need to convert it to just a desktop operating system. (Don't ask why I didn't just install from a Live CD, as that's another issue entirely). Is it just a matter of installing ubuntu-desktop, and then purging ubuntu-server?
[00:20] <bekks> PatrickDickey: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and install a desktop kernel.
[00:20] <PatrickDickey> bekks: The kernel that installed is a generic (both the regular 3.11-14-generic and 3.11-14-extras-generic). Do I need a different one?
[00:21] <k1l> PatrickDickey: just install ubuntu-desktop and make sure lightdm ist installed
[00:21] <Payton> I'm getting a message saying "this kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU, unable to boot."
[00:21] <k1l> there is no difference in server and desktop kernel anymore
[00:21] <Payton> I installed the right version and I am using a 64 bit
[00:22] <Payton> Using VBox though...
[00:22] <PatrickDickey> Payton: You might have to check BIOS to make sure that the AMD-V or VT (Intel's version of virtualization) are enabled.
[00:22] <Payton> PatrickDickey: ?
[00:22] <Payton> PatrickDickey: Sorry, I'm new to ubuntu and used to Mac OS
[00:23] <PatrickDickey> Payton: On your physical computer, in BIOS. If the virtualization isn't enabled, you can't install a 64-bit guest.
[00:23] <Payton> PatrickDickey: So I have to install a 32 bit version of ubuntu?
[00:25] <PatrickDickey> Payton: I'd say reboot, and go into BIOS. Look around there for anything that has to do with Virtualization, and enable it. It might be something like VT-x or AMD-v in BIOS. If you don't have those options, then yes, all you can install is a 32-bit version.
[00:25] <Payton> PatrickDickey: I've done all i could with the virtualization :/
[00:26] <PatrickDickey> Payton: In BIOS, you mean?
[00:26] <Payton> Looks like I need 32 bit, but still I don't understand. I'm using a 64 bit based and 64 bit processor
[00:27] <pvl1> hey, for the life in me, i cannot figure out how to get my system to run a script at startup. furthermore i want to make another script thatll execute before x is started
[00:27] <bekks> Payton: Which CPU do you have exactly?
[00:27] <Payton> What do you mean, OS?
[00:28] <kryto> the Processor
[00:28] <PatrickDickey> Payton, he means Processor. Intel or AMD, and type. Like Intel Celeron or AMD Athalon, for example.
[00:28] <Payton> Let me check
[00:28] <bekks> PatrickDickey: I mean: "which exact make and model is your processor"?
[00:28] <nebket1> Intel Pentium 286 :D
[00:29] <picca> no such thing lol
[00:29] <MonkeyDust> Pentium is 586, penta means 5 :)
[00:30]  * PatrickDickey is going to guess that Payton's BIOS doesn't have any support for virtualization in it. Has an old 64-bit computer sitting on the floor like that.
[00:30] <Payton> bekks: Processor: AMD A8-5550M APU Radeon HD Graphics 2.10GHz
[00:30] <fishcooker> #wpa_supplicant -B -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext && dhclient wlan0
[00:30] <Payton> bekks: Close to a i5 intel processor
[00:30] <fishcooker> but there is no ip address acquired
[00:31] <bekks> Payton: Far away, since its AMD ;) You have to check wether you enabled AMD-V in the BIOS.
[00:31] <PatrickDickey> Payton: Out of curosity, what brand of computer is it? Brand and model.
[00:31] <Payton> PatrickDickey: HP Windows 8 and I have no clue as to witch model
[00:31] <Payton> bekks: How would i do that in VBox?
[00:32] <bekks> Payton: Vbox has nothing to do with that. Turn your computer off, boot it, get into the BIOS, and check that setting.
[00:32] <PatrickDickey> Payton: You do that on the computer itself. When you reboot, start pressing F2, and it *should* take you to the BIOS. Then look for that setting in there.
[00:32] <Payton> bekks: What do I look for in that?
[00:33] <bekks> Payton: I told you.
[00:33] <PatrickDickey> And Payton, if you see something on the screen that says "Press <key> to enter setup", Press that key instead of the F2 key.
[00:33] <fishcooker> there is error message ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument
[00:33] <Payton> bekks: I know, haven't you heard of spam?
[00:33] <bekks> Payton: Whatever. I am not in the mood for jokes.
[00:34] <Payton> bekks: I can't see the message, in other words -.-
[00:34] <Payton> bekks: I don't joke around.
[00:34] <bekks> Payton: You even answered on my post.
[00:34] <bekks> Payton: So dont tell me you havent read it ;)
[00:35] <Payton> bekks: I already looked for my processor, you said nothing about the boot stuff
[00:35] <Payton> bekks: Great, I already forgot what to do
[00:35] <CreamedChicken> Xubuntu finished downloading. I put it on a USB using Rufus (http://rufus.akeo.io). The LiveUSB did not have wifi, however.
[00:35] <bekks> 1207 013047 < bekks> Payton: Far away, since its AMD ;) You have to check wether you enabled AMD-V in the BIOS.
[00:35] <bekks> 1207 013134 < Payton> bekks: How would i do that in VBox?
[00:35] <CreamedChicken> I shut off and rebooted in to Windows 8.
[00:35] <Payton> Alright
[00:35] <bekks> Payton: I did, and you replied.
[00:35] <Payton> I'll be back then
[00:35] <CreamedChicken> Should I Xubuntu first, and then try again?
[00:36] <PatrickDickey> CreamedChicken: In Windows 8, did you go into Power Options and disable Fast Startup (in What does the power button do)?
[00:36] <CreamedChicken> Yes, I did.
[00:37] <PatrickDickey> CreamedChicken: Then, did you either go into BIOS and set the boot order to USB before Hard drive, or press F12 (or whichever key gives you a boot menu) and choose the USB drive?
[00:37] <CreamedChicken> I pressed F12 and booted from USB.
[00:38] <PatrickDickey> Ok, so you got into the Live USB, but it didn't have Wifi, so you rebooted, right? (I missed that part)
[00:38] <CreamedChicken> Correct. Should I have installed first?
[00:39] <PatrickDickey> CreamedChicken: If you wanted to install it, then yes. It'll install from the USB without getting the updates. Afterwards, you'll probably have to get the driver for your wifi card, and install that. Then you'll have wifi.
[00:39] <CreamedChicken> oh
[00:39] <PatrickDickey> But, since you're in Windows now, I'd make sure of which card you have (the exact brand and model) so you know which drivers to get later.
[00:39] <CreamedChicken> I guess I'll reboot, install, hope it doesn't mess up, and try again.
[00:40]  * PatrickDickey has a new enough Realtek card, that I had to download drivers for it.
[00:46]  * PatrickDickey after 40 minutes, starts to wonder if he shouldn't have installed both ubuntu and lubuntu desktops... :P
[00:49] <circ-user-b7neg> I'm running Ubuntu 13.10 Server, and have installed ubuntu-desktop.  When the server boots up it goes straight into the Desktop login GUI.  I was wondering if its possible to prevent that from happening, and instead be faced with the traditional black login command screen?
[00:53] <PatrickDickey> circ-user-b7neg: http://askubuntu.com/questions/148717/how-do-i-boot-into-the-console-and-then-launch-the-ubuntu-desktop-from-it might help you.
[00:53] <STUPID> so i have tried downloading Ubuntu 13.10 from Ubuntu.com twice and it has worked neither time
[00:53] <MonkeyHobo> Just passed the first pass, my HD still has a previous version of Ubuntu installed...?
[00:53] <PatrickDickey> STUPID: define hasn't worked either time. what happened?
[00:53] <STUPID> perhaps I am failing to burn it to the CD correctly? I just open with Windows Disk Image Burner
[00:54] <STUPID> I get an error when I try and boot the computer from the DVD
[00:54] <circ-user-b7neg> PatrickDickey: that looks helpful. thanks, i'll give that a try
[00:54] <PatrickDickey> STUPID: Can you set the speed in Windows Image Burner? If so, then you want the slowest speed possible.
[00:54] <KickStarRabbit> if anyone needs my assistance I can assist - my specialty is networking
[00:54] <STUPID> PatrickDicket  - OK I can try that
[00:55] <PatrickDickey> circ-user-b7neg: Hopefully that works for you. I'm in the opposite boat of sorts. I had to install server, but want the desktop.
[00:55] <STUPID> PatrickDicket: I don't get an option for burn speed
[00:55]  * PatrickDickey wooohooo I see it setting up Unity Scopes.... And LightDM. I might be set...
[00:56] <PatrickDickey> STUPID: Do you have another program for burning images? I'd try ISOBurn, if you don't. It allows you to set the speed, and also verify the burn.
[00:56] <STUPID> PatrickDickey - I can download that and use it
[00:57] <akurilin> Hey folks, quick question. On 12.04, how do I change the DNS servers used by a certain connection?
[00:57] <PatrickDickey> STUPID: That's what I'd do. It's free, and unofficially recommended by Microsoft (at least their beta developers).
[00:57] <akurilin> would like to use the local instance of bind9 I just configured
[00:57] <fishcooker> Linux 3.2.0-57-generic #87-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 12 21:38:12 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux.. i want to install wireless driver for my ath5k
[00:58] <PatrickDickey> akurilin: You can change Network Manager to just get the IP address from DHCP, and specify DNS Servers in there.
[00:58] <fishcooker> which package to install?
[00:58] <fishcooker> i mean in the terminal PatrickDickey
[00:58] <MonkeyDust> fishcooker: linux 3.2 ... what ubuntu version is that?
[00:59] <akurilin> PatrickDickey: any chance I could do that from a config somewhere?
[00:59] <PatrickDickey> fishcooker: /etc/network/interfaces If you change your IP Address to static, you can specify them in there. Or you might be able to do it in /etc/resolv.conf (but it might get overwritten by dhcp).
[00:59] <akurilin> PatrickDickey: supposedly this was once located under /etc/network/interfaces
[00:59] <fishcooker> ubuntu server
[00:59] <PatrickDickey> akurilin: It still is. I had to do it this morning to update my laptop.
[01:00] <fishcooker> MonkeyDust:
[01:00] <fishcooker> i choose those kernel on installation step
[01:00] <fishcooker> have i do wrong thing here
[01:00] <PatrickDickey> Sorry, my other message to fishcooker was meant for akurilin instead (about network/interfaces and resolv.conf).
[01:00] <MonkeyDust> fishcooker: 12.04 has 3.8 that's why i'm asking
[01:00] <fishcooker> or should i install madwifi for this box
[01:01] <fishcooker> on installation there is option to choose
[01:01] <fishcooker> yeah i know
[01:01] <fishcooker> but i choose linux-image-generic
[01:01] <STUPID> PatrickDickey: I cannot run ISOBurn because I am not administrator (Windows 7)
[01:02] <fishcooker> what should i do MonkeyDust.. i want this wireless up and running..
[01:02] <akurilin> PatrickDickey: ok I'm kind of getting it. Is there any chance I can be on DHCP and still override its preference just for the DNS server?
[01:03] <fishcooker> just add this option to your interface "dns-nameservers 192.168.1.254 8.8.4.4" akurilin
[01:03] <circ-user-b7neg> im doing a release upgrade using the internet on my existing server build.  Something makes me think this may have been quicker to do an overlapped upgrade instead (by downloading the 13.10 ISO)... Zzzzzzz
[01:03] <fishcooker> it won't override the resolv.conf
[01:05] <akurilin> fishcooker: the interface isn't listed there, I don't think it will show up in that file if network manager is controlling it.
[01:06] <myd_> hello
[01:06] <fishcooker> hi myd_
[01:07] <DuncanNZ> what just happened?
[01:08] <DuncanNZ> ubottu removes channel operator status from ubottu
[01:08] <PatrickDickey> STUPID: Try this instead http://www.freeisoburner.com/ supposedly you don't have to install it.
[01:09] <akurilin> fishcooker: I actually stumbled upon a dhcp option that lets you specify DNS servers by hand
[01:09] <akurilin> that's pretty convenient
[01:10] <PatrickDickey> DuncanNZ: I think the bot just demoted itself from an owner to a regular user.
[01:10] <DuncanNZ> PatrickDickey: why would it do that?
[01:10] <CreamedChicken> Alright, I'm back.
[01:10] <PatrickDickey> DuncanNZ: Maybe the hammer was getting heavy?
[01:10] <CreamedChicken> Setup automatically enabled wifi.
[01:10] <Jordan_U> DuncanNZ: We have some bans that auto-expire, for those bans ubottu automatically ops herself, removes the ban, then de-ops herself again when the ban has expired.
[01:11] <DuncanNZ> oh I see thanks Jordan_U
[01:11] <Jordan_U> DuncanNZ: You're welcome.
[01:11] <Tinkerlad> o/
[01:12] <CreamedChicken> However, when I go to Xubuntu, it the only options are Install Over and Do Something Else. I selected Do Something Else. Because it is a "new" laptop, with UEFI, does it need anything special, like a /boot partition? I just have / and /home right now.
[01:13] <CreamedChicken> This is what GParted looks like: http://i.imgur.com/2vO3EFO.png
[01:13] <CreamedChicken> I've got /, /home, and /swap, is there anything else I'm missing, like /boot?
[01:15] <bish0p_> Hey uh, what's a man page?
[01:15] <wafflejock> !man > bish0p_
[01:15] <KickStarRabbit> manual = man
[01:15] <PatrickDickey> CreamedChicken: The bootloader should install in /boot/efi (which should be there, if your Windows 8 was booting in UEFI mode). If you're in CSM mode, you'll have to do a boot repair later on to get it to boot in UEFI mode.
[01:16] <bish0p_> alright, thank you
[01:16] <CreamedChicken> Huh?
[01:16] <Brocky> Now this may make me sound like a complete idiot but how do I download from the ubuntu archives?
[01:16] <PatrickDickey> CreamedChicken: You're fine. Do you see the partition in the list that says "Boot"?
[01:16] <PatrickDickey> (under flags)
[01:17] <CreamedChicken> First one, fat32 partition, labeled "ESP
[01:17] <fixmypc956> !fstb
[01:17] <fixmypc956> !fstab
[01:17] <PatrickDickey> That's the one. When you install, GRUB will install there, and move everything around in there. That way you'll be able to boot either Windows 8 or Xubuntu.
[01:17] <Jordan_U> CreamedChicken: Make sure that that partition is mounted to /boot/efi/ .
[01:18] <CreamedChicken> So, in a terminal, I need to do: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /boot/efi, correct?
[01:18] <ekristen> anyone a debian package kung fu master in here? for some reason a package I have created acts differently when being installed via dpkg -i vs apt-get install, the package is setup to just extra files into certain locations on the filesystem, with dpkg -i the files are extract as expected to the proper locations, but with apt-get install, the files do not show up anywhere
[01:19] <CreamedChicken> Anything else I need to do?
[01:20] <wafflejock> Brocky: believe you just need to add it to your /etc/apt/sources.list http://askubuntu.com/questions/37753/how-can-i-get-apt-to-use-a-mirror-close-to-me-or-choose-a-faster-mirror
[01:21] <pvl1> im having difficulty get a script to run at startup
[01:21] <Lajjla> Hmm
[01:21] <Lajjla> So I can't connect to certain sites, I found out they all start with 192.* after resolving the hostmname?
[01:21] <Lajjla> Are they even supposed tos tart with 192?
[01:21] <Lajjla> And if so, what could be the problem?
[01:21] <wafflejock> Brocky: here's a post where they're showing some options through the GUI to update the sources http://askubuntu.com/questions/37753/how-can-i-get-apt-to-use-a-mirror-close-to-me-or-choose-a-faster-mirror
[01:21] <FloodBot1> Lajjla: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:22] <Lajjla> Like, is github.com 192.30.252.131 too for you people?
[01:22] <Jordan_U> CreamedChicken: No, that is something that you need to configure in Ubuntu's installer (unless you're using automatic partitioning, in which case it will be done for you properly automatically :).
[01:22] <wafflejock> Lajjla: yes nslookup resolves the same here
[01:22] <PatrickDickey> Lajjla: That's what I got also. So it's not the resolution that's failing. It's something else. Do you get an error message when you try to go to their site?
[01:23] <Brocky> wafflejock: Unfortunetly Im currently on a windows machine... and Im looking to download http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/
[01:23] <Lajjla> PatrickDickey, I just can't connect, to 3 sites, all of whom staret with 192
[01:23] <Lajjla> Maybe this is a flaw in my router or something?
[01:23] <Lajjla> Because like, the windows computer can't connect too
[01:24] <CreamedChicken> Jordan_U, like this? http://i.imgur.com/7Nxqm2v.png
[01:24] <PatrickDickey> Lajjla: It could be. It sounds like your router is trying to redirect all 192.* to your local network, instead of just the 192.168.* addresses.
[01:24] <wafflejock> Lajjla: yeah sounds like some issue with the router perhaps see if you can configure the LAN settings and use a different IP range
[01:24] <Lajjla> I thought maybe it wasn't supposed to connect to 192. and my dns settings are failing me.,
[01:24] <PatrickDickey> Lajjla: Out of curiosity, what's your IP address on the computer?
[01:25] <Lajjla> Super weird, it only started today
[01:25] <Lajjla> But yeah, it does ssound like that
[01:25] <wafflejock> Brocky: looks like you can just grab the mini.iso file there for the minimal CD network install
[01:25] <Lajjla> Oh, hmm, I notice an anomaly, my static netmask is set to 255.0.0.0 instead of 255.255.255.0 hmm
[01:26] <wafflejock> Lajjla: that would be a problem
[01:26] <wafflejock> then all 192.x.x.x are internal
[01:26] <Lajjla> PatrickDickey, I am 192.168.0.6 on this machine I believe
[01:26] <Lajjla> But, lket me see what happens if I reset the router with 255.255.255.0 now
[01:27] <wafflejock> Lajjla: should be all good if the router is 192.168.0.x and everything internal has a corresponding IP
[01:27] <PatrickDickey> Lajjla: What is it set at currently? (The 255.255.255.0 part).
[01:27] <Brocky> so for pxe I just need the mini.iso for the pxe install.. I presume this means that being only 36M that it is missing a lot compared to the cd install though?
[01:28] <PatrickDickey> Brocky: All the mini iso does is boot up, and connect to the PXE (or the Ubuntu mirrors) for the rest. That's why it's so small.
[01:28] <wafflejock> Brocky: the minimal CD install basically just gets you booting into the first couple of command line based menus then gets everything else from the net... I'm not too familiar with PXE boot setups though
[01:28] <CreamedChicken> Jordan_U, I currently have /dev/sda1 set as "EFI Booot Partition", /dev/sda8 as /home, /dev/sda10 as / and /dev/sda9 as /swap. Is there anything else I'm missing.
[01:28] <CreamedChicken> *?
[01:28] <nevzets> Well, there we go
[01:28] <nevzets> Lesson learnt, I can screw the whole building by doing this
[01:28] <nevzets> What does netmask even do?
[01:28] <nevzets> So let me get this straight, by that setting on my computer I can screw anyone who uses the router without needing a pass to the router essentially?
[01:29] <wafflejock> no netmask is used to determine which IPs are in the local range it shouldn't affect other systems unless it's changed on the router
[01:29] <PatrickDickey> nevzets: Netmask helps the computer to know which other devices are in the local network. If you change it, then it looks for other devices with that same netmask, and will only connect to them.
[01:29] <wafflejock> PatrickDickey: jinx :)
[01:29] <PatrickDickey> lol ;)
[01:30] <nevzets> PatrickDickey, so whyis 255.255.255.0 the cannonical way to go.
[01:30] <wafflejock> nevzets: this gives you 200 some IPs to work with locally
[01:30] <nevzets> And why does changing it to 255.0.0.0 on one machine block anytihng starting with 192
[01:30] <nevzets> I don't know what netmask exactly does, I just know it's supposed to be on 255.255.255.0
[01:30] <Brocky> Ahh k. Maybe I better explain what I am trying to do and get some advice that way... I want to install 13.10 server onto an old machine of mine however it has'nt got a cd drive. I tried usb and cant get it to boot from it either so I wanted to try PXE
[01:31] <wafflejock> nevzets: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subnetwork
[01:31] <wafflejock> nevzets: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAT
[01:31] <wafflejock> nevzets: those are the parts involved if you really want to know, it's a bit complicated though just a heads up... I took a semester on Java network programming and learned a lot but was a full semester of school covering the details
[01:32] <CreamedChicken> Anyone have suggestions for partitioning? Just want to make sure I don't screw up the dual boot.
[01:32] <Rayhai> Hey, I'm a little confused about something with my laptop. I'm on Ubuntu 13.10, and to keep my system from suspending when I close the lid, I had to edit the file /etc/systemd/login.conf andand change a couple lines to "HandleLidSwitch=ignore" and "LidSwitchIgnoreInhibited=no" But it takes no effect when I'm on the cinnamon 2.0 environment.
[01:33] <Lajjla> Ah, I see, subnetmask is just to be seen as a number
[01:33] <Rayhai> It works fine on unity and gnome
[01:34] <PatrickDickey> CreamedChicken: It looks good. As long as you don't have it formatting the /boot, or your OS partitions, you should be fine. The ONLY ones that should be formatted are your /, /home, and swap partitions.
[01:34] <wafflejock> Lajjla: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/164015 as much as I hate to reference microsoft here this is a good explanation
[01:35] <PatrickDickey> wafflejock: sometimes they're good for something. ;)
[01:35] <wafflejock> PatrickDickey: yeah honestly their docs have always been okay when it comes to programming stuff too... it's just the languages that don't make any sense :) (XAML ugh)
[01:35] <Rayhai> Microsoft good for something? huh, that's strange. They've only ever screwed me over.
[01:36] <Rayhai> But does anyone know to to keep my laptop from suspending on lise closure?
[01:37] <wafflejock> Rayhai: in the system settings power options
[01:37] <wafflejock> Rayhai: I'm in Kubuntu so can't check exact names from here if you're on Ubuntu
[01:37] <PatrickDickey> That's where I was going to point him also.
[01:38] <Rayhai> wafflejock: Tried that, doesn't work.
[01:38] <wafflejock> Rayhai: hmm works here you sure you checked for plugged in vs unplugged
[01:38] <Rayhai> Yep.
[01:39] <PatrickDickey> Rayhai: http://askubuntu.com/questions/15520/how-can-i-tell-ubuntu-to-do-nothing-when-i-close-my-laptop-lid maybe?
[01:39] <Rayhai> wafflejock: I had to modify /etc/systemd/login.conf, that fixed the problem on GNOME and Unity, but it's still borked on Cinnamon 2.0
[01:39] <fixmypc956> how do i automount a partition
[01:40] <wafflejock> Rayhai: not sure you may need to go to a cinammon specific channel or mint or something though not sure you'll find the answer here (just a suggest maybe someone here knows)
[01:41] <CreamedChicken> Alright, thanks. It's installing now. I'll be back if I encounter any issues.
[01:41] <PatrickDickey> Rayhai: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=208&t=101396 then. I didn't realize it was for cinnamon.
[01:41] <Rayhai> wafflejock: well my base is ubuntu 13.10,  and I couldn't find anything on google, so I came here.
[01:42] <wafflejock> Rayhai: that's fine just trying to offer some extra options since I don't usually see a lot of chatter about cinammon in here
[01:43] <Rayhai> wafflejock: haha, well I'm just trying out some different desktop environment right now. Kinda looking for something that's clean and easy to use for productivity.
[01:44] <jevon_> which one Rayhai?
[01:44] <Rayhai> I'm trying out Cinnamon 2.0 right now. I really like it, but I can't close my lid without it suspending.
[01:45] <wafflejock> Rayhai: I'm really loving KDE, it takes some rigging but you can get it just how you like it er at least just how I like it (I'm not a big user of the KMenu though just shortcut everything or put it in a panel)
[01:45] <wafflejock> haven't really given Cinnamon a serious shot yet though
[01:45] <jevon_> kde is awesome
[01:47] <Rayhai> I'll take a look into it. Anyways, can someone suggest to me a good dock? I like docky, but hate the forced docky icon, and cairo-dock is too animated. I want a clean, customizeable dock.
[01:47] <wafflejock> Rayhai: also just another random suggestion using Virtual Box so you can test out a lot of stuff without messing up your main system (and clone VMs) is a nice option if you just want to blow through some stuff and not compromise the stability of your main system
[01:48] <jevon_> http://glx-dock.org/
[01:49] <jevon_> oh, sry u already mentioned it
[01:49]  * PatrickDickey is really starting to think he bought a lemon...
[01:49] <Rayhai> wafflejock : I have no experience with VMs, but if it's nothing too daunting, I could give it a try
[01:50] <PatrickDickey> I'm getting hard lockups on one of my CPU cores. :S It just started now, after I've installed the desktops. I *may* have to restore my original drive, and start from there again. :S
[01:50] <wafflejock> Rayhai: super easy actually just, sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[01:50] <Rayhai> jevon: haha, yeah. I like glx/cairo-dock, but the animations are too much of an eyesore for me.
[01:50] <wafflejock> after that it has a GUI to make a new VM image file and set it up to install an OS then you point it to a ISO on first start
[01:52] <wafflejock> Rayhai: I actually wrote up a guide to getting it setup for doing development stuff (AngularJS is where my focus has been, playing with Android development too now) https://docs.google.com/document/d/13qRYXSYyAunclSOr-iLhpHa7A88MQXrO04B0n8pQPmA/edit#heading=h.bw2mdw5i1i9q
[01:52] <wafflejock> Rayhai: I took screenshots at each step of the VM setup and explained as best I could about what the important stuff does
[01:52] <Rayhai> Oh man. Gotta love 3rd world country internet speed. Over half an hour to download VirtualBox
[01:53] <Rayhai> wafflejock: Thanks! Once I can download a few things, I'll give it a try.
[01:53] <wafflejock> Rayhai: sure thing glad it can help some people... will eventually post this to my small business site but it's still a bit rough around the edges
[01:54] <independent>  Is there a way in bash to redirect a connection and logging the session without using a packet sniffer?
[01:55] <gige> i had a new laptop with windows 8. I deleted windows 8, i want to install ubuntu. i disabled secure boot. Do i have to partition any special wayy?
[01:56] <wafflejock> gige: not in particular but uefi may be an issue
[01:56] <wafflejock> !uefi > gige
[01:56] <gige> i will be using 12.04
[01:58] <gige> is uefi like gonna be normal now
[01:58] <gige> is it a new thing. or a windows thing
[01:58] <pseubodot> I upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10 and although virtually everything is working amazingly well, the HUD now knows nothing about any software installed on this box. Is there a way to rebuild whatever indexes etc are required for the HUD?
[01:58] <wafflejock> gige: a little from A but mostly from B I believe
[02:00] <fixmypc956> how do i automount a partition
[02:00] <wafflejock> gige: and since most PCs are preloaded with windows this is a thing now however you want to look at that
[02:00] <wafflejock> fixmypc956: fstab
[02:01] <wafflejock> !fstab > fixmypc956
[02:01] <gige> wafflejock: i mean but soon linux will be no problem on this right
[02:01] <gige> wafflejock: I didnt even know about this till my newest  laptop purchase
[02:02] <wafflejock> gige: I imagine that's true since it's probably not going away, but I'm not sure... bough my laptop from Sys76 so it's all linux friendly out of the box, had Win 8 running dual boot but then decided to put Win 8 into a virtual machine instead since I just need photoshop here or there
[02:02] <wafflejock> bought*
[02:03] <gige> wafflejock: i never heard of sys76 i want a laptop from them. Might return this lol
[02:03] <gige> they shipped it to you with ubutu?
[02:03] <Rayhai> wafflejock: with KDE, is it possible to get myy desktop enviroment to look something like this? http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7381/11245011416_0c369350a4_o.png - The dark taskbar with minimalistic icons, along with the music playing in the task icons?
[02:03] <wafflejock> gige: hah yeah I hadn't heard about them but jupiter broadcasting is a linux channel that is funded by them and push it a lot so eventually decided to try it, quite happy for the last year with it... yeah shipped with 12.04 when I ordered last november
[02:04] <Pessimist> Rayhai, it's cinnamon + numix
[02:04] <Rayhai> Pessimist: I'm on Ubuntu + Cinnamon right now, but I'm haffing a few issues with it.
[02:05] <wafflejock> Rayhai: eh sort of, if you use the Oxygen theme and just have one panel at the bottom and use some dock app you can get it similar but won't be exact
[02:05] <Rayhai> having*
[02:08] <gige_> wired connection works for me but not wireless
[02:08] <gige_> i click connections but i dont see it finding any routers
[02:08] <wafflejock> !wireless | gige
[02:09] <wafflejock> gige: you may need to install NDIS wrapper or otherwise figure out what to do for your specific device.. if usb use lsusb to see the device id and then look it up otherwise use lscpci
[02:10] <gige_> alright thanks
[02:11] <wafflejock> Rayhai: here's what mine looks like ATM http://pasteboard.co/1OmurxuT.png there's a hidden panel in the top left of the right monitor too where I keep stuff for quicklaunch
[02:11] <SuperVeggie> Hi, can someone help me?
[02:12] <wafflejock> Rayhai: pretty much everything can be customized though which is why I like it, even the themes have some nice tweaking options built in
[02:12] <wafflejock> !ask | SuperVeggie
[02:12] <Payton> Hello, I needed help on speeding up my ubuntu it is running kinda slow
[02:12] <wafflejock> Payton: have you tried to look into why it's slow? have you used the system monitor to see if you're running out of RAM and using swap or if it's cpu usage?
[02:13] <SuperVeggie> My youngest son was surfing the web last night and to my shock he was at www.bbc.co.uk the .uk stands for United Kingdom and, well, doesn't it cost extra to view long distance?
[02:13] <Payton> I set it to 1GB ram it should be fine cD
[02:13] <Payton> xD
[02:14] <wafflejock> SuperVeggie: there is no long distance when it comes to the internet, not since the days of dial up
[02:14] <wafflejock> Payton: if you're using Unity 64 bit 1GB is probably really not enough, depends on your DE and other choices
[02:14] <SuperVeggie> No, I am sure they charge extra. It doesn't make any sense that they wouldn't. England is a long way away, they would lose millions not to.
[02:14] <whoever> hi all , I am tring to use arp to list all nodes on my network, but am only getting back the gateway<router> with arp -a . can someone assist
[02:15] <Payton> What should I set it to?
[02:15] <Payton> I have 8GB RAM
[02:15] <Payton> But I don't want to go into swap :(
[02:15] <wafflejock> Payton: give it half if you're doing a VM and you aren't using 4GB
[02:15] <geminimoon66> SuperVeggie - I suppose it depends on your internet service.  If you pay a flat rate it should make no difference.
[02:16] <Payton> So i need 4GB RAM?
[02:16] <Payton> I just don't want to use swap..
[02:16] <wafflejock> Payton: it won't hurt, 2GB would be sufficient but I find myself getting into the 4GB range pretty frequently, granted I just leave stuff open all over
[02:16] <SuperVeggie> Well we use dial-up and you just said it costs extra for dial-up long distance?
[02:16] <Rayhai> wafflejock: hmm. I'm not interested in gradients and high quality/resolution icons, with my weak laptop, I need all the preformance I can get for gamming. Also why I'm looking for a cleaner dock.
[02:16] <Payton> Alright I'll set to 4GB
[02:16] <wafflejock> SuperVeggie: no the dial up will only cost more if it has to actually dial to a long distance number
[02:17] <wafflejock> going to domains from any country is fine
[02:17] <SuperVeggie> Ok thank you :)
[02:17] <wafflejock> SuperVeggie: sure thing
[02:17] <lovethecode> hello world!
[02:17] <wafflejock> lovethecode: hello love
[02:18] <lovethecode> hi wafflejock
[02:18] <boern> hey guys i have a problem, everytime i start my software center i get an error: http://www7.pic-upload.de/07.12.13/cio68vmudfjw.png can you tell me how to fix this? click on repair isnt working
[02:19] <SuperVeggie> Does anybody know of the best floppy disk I can use to play battlefield 3 on high settings?
[02:19] <boern> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6532862/
[02:21] <lovethecode> boen: not sure but can you satisfy the dependencies yourself?
[02:21] <SuperVeggie> Anyone? I use a 200MB floppy disc
[02:22] <boern> ???
[02:22] <boern> what do you mean
[02:22] <KickStarRabbit> sorry i didnt check back but did anyone find a good link for running ubu under win8
[02:23] <lovethecode> boern: use synaptic to install the extra image mentioned in the error.
[02:23] <KickStarRabbit> not a dual boot more a virtual machine
[02:23] <PatrickDickey> KickStarRabbit: Either VMWare PLayer, or Virtualbox works. I used VMWare Player last week.
[02:24] <Vivekananda> hi everyone, is -p the same as --prefix ? Also what does it do . also how do I find out more about this particular ( and other options from cli ) ?
[02:24] <jevon_> or wubi
[02:24] <KickStarRabbit> whats more solid/stable
[02:24] <Vivekananda> I am trying to do mkdir -p
[02:25] <KickStarRabbit> i tried virtaulbox but the performance was poor...granted on a older labtop
[02:25] <lovethecode> mkdir --help or man mkdir? Viv
[02:25] <PatrickDickey> KickStarRabbit: I'd say they're about the same. VMWare Player is owned and operated by VMWare, and Virtualbox is operated by Oracle now.
[02:25] <KickStarRabbit> i will try again with new toshiba
[02:25] <wafflejock> KickStarRabbit: have been using virtual box here on different systems for years and never had serious problems (occasional GPU acceleration issues or something)
[02:25] <PatrickDickey> Which toshiba KickStarRabbit?
[02:25] <KickStarRabbit> i would prefer open source
[02:25] <KickStarRabbit> i dont have the model in front of me
[02:25] <KickStarRabbit> lets just call it *new lol
[02:25] <wafflejock> nothing serious or show stopping for me
[02:26] <PatrickDickey> lol Gottcha. I just bought one last weekend. Satellite C55Dt-A5244.
[02:26] <KickStarRabbit> so I would like to contribute...any suggestions
[02:27] <wafflejock> KickStarRabbit: contribute to what?
[02:27] <KickStarRabbit> ubunto
[02:27] <KickStarRabbit> i applied for membership
[02:27] <wafflejock> KickStarRabbit: filing bugs is probably helpful if you aren't a dev
[02:27] <KickStarRabbit> and one of the sectiosn for the IRC is contribute
[02:28] <gustav___> Waah. My wireless won't connect. It says it's the wrong password but I'm copying the password from the router.
[02:28] <KickStarRabbit> ok
[02:28] <PatrickDickey> KickStarRabbit: Just help out wherever and whenever you can. ;)
[02:28] <wafflejock> otherwise just hanging out here and helping people out is good to do where you can
[02:28] <boern> look thats strange: http://www7.pic-upload.de/07.12.13/c9rwhuasd6q.png and then: http://www7.pic-upload.de/07.12.13/n1hw1wsx8azv.png
[02:28] <jevon_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QEMU
[02:28] <KickStarRabbit> ok sounds good
[02:28] <PatrickDickey> gustav___: Are you using the right type of encryption? WEP, WPA, WPA-2?
[02:28] <boern> apt-get install -f is not working
[02:29] <gustav___> PatrickDickey: Yes.
[02:29] <KickStarRabbit> so I am at work on corp computer with restricted install but can I run a mini ubu release on thumb drive
[02:29] <KickStarRabbit> or maybe an external
[02:29] <boern> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6532892/
[02:30] <Beldar> boern, can you descrfibe the issue to the channel not all of us will click on anything.
[02:31] <boern> Yes, evertime i want to install new software or updates i get an error that the package system is broken
[02:32] <Beldar> boern, pastebin sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:33] <Rayhai> Hey, what do you guys think is the best 2556-bit AES encryption software that works on ubuntu?
[02:33] <jevon_> KickStarRabbit: did u check QEMU?
[02:33] <KickStarRabbit> can you send link
[02:33] <jevon_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QEMU
[02:33] <Rayhai> 256-git*
[02:33] <Rayhai> bit*
[02:34] <boern> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6532901/
[02:34] <Rayhai> (gah. I suck at typing)
[02:34] <kryto> Ubuntu been very very good to me, I love my Ubuntu2
[02:34] <KickStarRabbit> http://wiki.qemu.org/Main_Page
[02:35] <Beldar> boern, You might notice your command was incorrect sudo apt-get -f install is correct try that
[02:36] <Beldar> boern, then try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:36] <KickStarRabbit> is there a cert for ubuntu
[02:36] <KickStarRabbit> like a cisco ccna
[02:36] <wafflejock> KickStarRabbit: not that I'm aware of Comptia might have something though
[02:37] <jevon_> i dunno, but qemu was working fine forme
[02:37] <KickStarRabbit> i know redhat had one
[02:37] <boern> look its not working: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6532912/
[02:37] <Beldar> boern, You seem to have 3rd party repos going, this PPA's?
[02:37] <KickStarRabbit> i will try qemu this weekend
[02:37] <KickStarRabbit> i like win8 but its not unix
[02:37] <wafflejock> KickStarRabbit: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntucert apparently they do
[02:38] <boern> yes but how do i find the right one to delete?
[02:40] <Beldar> boern, generally you add them one at a tome and run a update and install what is needed and look for errors than, you will need to look at the errors and go through what they provide and run a ppa-purge on the broken one. PPA's have to be carefully used.
[02:40] <fishcooker> i've tried knoppix as live cd to my box, the wireless card work well, but when i install ubuntu it cant .. it is based on AR242X.. it used ath5k as driver
[02:41] <Beldar> boern, Really don't use a ppa unless you know its safe, or are forced to.
[02:41] <wafflejock> boern: as Beldar explains you should be sure to add comments if you manually add PPAs to remind yourself what they are for and where they come from, you should also be careful because any updates to source pushed to the PPA will be brought down to your system
[02:42] <boern> so what if i remove all PPAs from "other software"?
[02:42] <boern> they are all uncheckt
[02:42] <boern> unchecked*
[02:43] <KickStarRabbit> http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-windows-8-64-bit-system-uefi-supported
[02:43] <Vivekananda> on unity I tried to "send a window down" but now I cannot find which worspace it is in . is there a way to look for it ?
[02:44] <KickStarRabbit> secure boot killed the dual boot
[02:45] <Beldar> !ppa-purge | boern this is how you remove them.
[02:46] <boern> sudo apt-get install ppa-purge?
[02:46] <Beldar> boern, read the link it gives ful instructions
[02:47] <Beldar> the bot info and link
[02:47] <boern> ok thats fine, but i dont know WHICH  ppa i have to remove..
[02:48] <Beldar> boern, We don;t know you installed them.
[02:48] <Beldar> !ppa | boern
[02:49] <Beldar> boern, We can try to help, however some of this is you figuring it out.
[02:49] <boern> i havent installed any ppas as far as i know^^
[02:49] <boern> but there is an error message about a linux image
[02:50] <pfifo> hello ubuntu
[02:50] <wafflejock> !wireless > fishcooker
[02:50] <boern> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6532966/
[02:50] <boern> look, this is the thing
[02:50] <boern> and i dont unterstand how to fix it x)
[02:51] <Beldar> boern, run this command and pastebin the info. grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}
[02:51] <siganderson> today I powered on my pc and the ubuntu entry with secure boot disappeared... I did not any update; is it ever happened?
[02:52] <boern> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6532971/
[02:53] <pfifo> boern: run `sudo apt-get clean` and retry whatever you were trying todo
[02:54] <boern> still eroor
[02:54] <boern> error
[02:54] <pfifo> boern: can you pastebin the error from that then
[02:54] <Beldar> boern, You are missing some repos and the last 4 lines in that paste are 3rd party repos.
[02:54] <boern> yes thats from steam and from chrome
[02:54] <boern> but i havent added them
[02:54] <boern> just installed the .deb file
[02:55] <boern> which repos are missing?
[02:55] <pfifo> siganderson: whats the problem?
[02:55] <Beldar> boern, sure but any ine can be part of the problem, here is a repo generator http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[02:55] <Beldar> one*
[02:55] <Vivekananda> I have a window ( firefox ) still working but not visible on any desktop. how do I view it ?
[02:56] <siganderson> pfifo, the problem is that I can't boot anymore with secure boot. Only normal boot
[02:56] <boern> Beldar: so just checkmark everything?
[02:56] <Beldar> boern, YOU can make a new genral repo list and remove the ubuntu repos from the softwrae.list and replace it with one generated there to start with.
[02:56] <fishcooker> there is no atheros ar542x or ar242x wafflejock
[02:56] <gustav___> gnome-control-panel's wifi section doesn't work. Any other tool I should use?
[02:57] <Beldar> boern, not sure of your question.
[02:58] <boern> Beldar: wouldnt it be easier to add the missing ones manually?
[02:58] <Jdawg78> Hey, what's new?
[02:58] <boern> i mean, which one are missing??
[02:59] <boern> i havent removed any
[02:59] <Beldar> boern, No not really, but if you want to generate a list from that site and pick through what your missing your welcome to, I have a feeling your not understanding in general.
[03:00] <wafflejock> fishcooker: Googling about the card looks like madwifi worked for others
[03:00] <pfifo> boern: in my opinion you have all you need; Beldar you better be specific about whats missing
[03:01] <boern> Beldar: you are right, i really dont understand it.. this is why im asking x) this problem appierd and i dont know  why
[03:02] <Beldar> pfifo, All one needs to do is build a correct list from the site I posted and replace the the sources list, if you want to pick through your welcome to, that is just a start of the problem the other is broken packages.
[03:02] <miceiken> hello i just wanted to let you know i really like this linux distro
[03:03] <pvl1> i need some guidance in getting scripts to run at startup
[03:03] <gustav___> miceiken: Why do you like it?
[03:04] <boern> 'Error: BrokenCount>0'. This usually means that your installed packages have unmet dependencies.
[03:06] <pfifo> boern: whats your original issue?
[03:06] <boern> pfifo: i cant install software and updates
[03:07] <boern> http://www7.pic-upload.de/07.12.13/cio68vmudfjw.png
[03:07] <pfifo> boern: can you pastebin the output of 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`
[03:08] <Romance> why do i need a sudo to unmount flashdisk using Disks but not from terminal
[03:09] <boern> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6533013/
[03:09] <boern> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[03:09] <boern> this wont work..
[03:10] <Romance> boern: yes use -f
[03:10] <boern> im really helpless with this i dont know what it is xD  im not a super geek, i just want it to work xD
[03:10] <boern> it wont work
[03:10] <pfifo> boern: pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get install -f`
[03:11] <Guest50277> Hi everybody, I've installed xubuntu on a flash drive; it's working.. except the ethernet. I've tried a few tutorials online, but without any luck.
[03:11] <Guest50277> I've gone though a few things online like setting a static ip in the /etc/network/interfaces. It tells me that the host is unreachable if I try to ping anything.
[03:11] <Guest50277> It doesn't seem to want to work with dhcp either.
[03:11] <Guest50277> Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
[03:11] <FloodBot1> Guest50277: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:11] <Guest50277> ok.
[03:11] <teknix_> Can someone help me get started mining litecoins?
[03:11] <Ben64> teknix_: not in this channel, try to find a litecoin channel
[03:11] <Guest50277> sorry, first time.. ;)
[03:12] <boern> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6533021/ looks good, maby reboot??
[03:12] <pvl1> Guest50277: does it show up in ifconfig
[03:12] <boern> upps to much..
[03:12] <Romance> Guest50277: cant ping mean its dns issue, what is your /etc/resolv.conf say
[03:12] <Guest50277> not if its dchp, but it it's static it does.
[03:13] <Ben64> Romance: can't ping does not mean dns problem
[03:13] <boern> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6533025/ so thats right..
[03:13] <Guest50277> the resolve.conf changes depending on the settings in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:13] <pfifo> boern: now run `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` and no, rebooting isnt the fix for anything in linux
[03:13] <pvl1> Guest50277: that shouldnt matter. it should show up in ifconfig no matter what
[03:13] <Guest50277> i've tried to use the gateway, and 8.8.8.8
[03:13] <randolph`> I'm using ubuntu 13.10 on gnome 3.10 and I'm trying to get the panel to work with touch input from my touch screen. works on fedora but doesn't work on ubuntu
[03:14] <pvl1> pfifo: boern ive brokem more things rebooting in linux than fix
[03:14] <pfifo> pvl1: i dont think thats supposed to happen either
[03:14] <Guest50277> pvl1: It does show up in ifconfig, but it doesn't have an ip with dhcp.
[03:14] <boern> uh its working XD
[03:15] <pvl1> pfifo: nvidea and ati drivers after kernel updates
[03:15] <boern> it does a lot XD
[03:15] <hylian> hello all
[03:15] <pfifo> boern: the 'sudo apt-get update' fixed it, you were out of date
[03:15] <boern> what exactly is "`sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?^^
[03:15] <Romance> Guest50277: how about ip addr
[03:15] <Guest50277> Romance: it ip addr a command?
[03:16] <pvl1> Guest50277: ok so the system recognizes it. how are you trying to get an ip over dhcp
[03:16] <pfifo> !dist-upgrade | boern
[03:16] <Romance> Guest50277: yes, `ip addr`
[03:16] <hylian> boern: it updates kernel fixes and other major distrobution security fixes.
[03:16] <boern> ok
[03:16] <boern> the error is gone :OO
[03:16] <boern> wow
[03:16] <boern> thank you ;O
[03:16] <pfifo> pvl1: manually installed? the ubuntu installer rebuilds them (or atleasty it used to)
[03:17] <Guest50277> pvl1: I've set the setting in /etc/network/interfaes to eth0 auto.. etch. inet dhcp to try to get a dhcp address.
[03:17] <pvl1> pfifo: manually
[03:17] <Guest50277> Romance: I will check.
[03:17] <pfifo> pvl1: well you should have known =p
[03:17] <boern> thank you guys for help! i ll leave u its 4 am in austria XD
[03:17] <pvl1> Guest50277: set it all to dhcp settings in the file. from terminal run dhclient -v eth0
[03:17] <Guest50277> pvl1: I'm starting the computer now to look at exact settings.
[03:18] <pvl1> pfifo: more about remebering at this point
[03:18] <Guest50277> pvl1: ok, I've tried running dhclient, but it just keeps running.. will try again now.
[03:20] <tiox> Is it possible to run a standalone Compiz session and have everything work out in Ubuntu?
[03:20] <pvl1> Guest50277: with the -v flag
[03:20] <tiox> Because I have everything set up for the most part, but there's obviously something wrong with my xsession.
[03:21] <pvl1> tiox: what makes you so sure
[03:22] <articsun> join #linux-india
[03:22] <articsun> darn
[03:22] <articsun> darn client
[03:22] <tiox> Because nothing works.
[03:22] <Guest50277> Romance: there is no ip address that comes up for eth0 with the ip addr command
[03:22] <Guest50277> pvl1: running dhclient now, with -v
[03:22] <hylian> where would I put a wish for the ubuntu unity team to make a light weight (like atleast as light as xfce) unity version? (not unity-2d, that is not the solution, imho)..??
[03:22] <tiox> I cannot log out via Avant Window Navigator, and CCSM refuses to keep some settings, such as desktop configuration.
[03:23] <pfifo> hylian: no need, mir is on the way
[03:23] <pvl1> Guest50277: what are you seeing
[03:23] <hylian> pfifo: and that will lighten up unity? I hope so.
[03:24] <Guest50277> pvl1: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3.. 8..12
[03:24] <pfifo> hylian: mir is going to be very lightweight (but may be buggy at first (help test))
[03:24] <Guest24676> ?
[03:24] <hylian> pfifo: sounds great... any way to start using mir + unity now?
[03:24] <tiox> Should I replace gnome-settings-daemon with something else in my xsession file?
[03:24] <pvl1> pfifo: im def jumping on that
[03:25] <pvl1> Guest50277: and your saying it works on a different disro
[03:25] <tiox> I'm running 13.10 BTW
[03:25] <pvl1> Guest50277: change your hostname to something that has worked
[03:25] <Guest50277> pvl1: no, this is the first time I've tried to install it.
[03:26] <pfifo> hylian: actually yes, saucy supports everything. help test, and file bugs, http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/
[03:26] <tiox> BRB, going to do some fuss with CCSM in my default session.
[03:26] <tiox> (Bad idea but I back everything up.)
[03:26] <hylian> pfifo: hmm, maybe later. I am a lts user... I am on 12.04 right now.
[03:27] <Guest50277> pvl1: I know that there is an internet connection though..
[03:27] <pvl1> Guest50277: has it ever worked on this device
[03:27] <pvl1> Guest50277: can you private msg me please
[03:27] <Guest50277> pvl1: no
[03:27] <azio_m> why i can't see the folders under /home when booting into shell safe mode? I need to delete /home/myuser/.fonts
[03:27] <tiox> Interesting -- <Super>S shows only one desktop.
[03:27] <hylian> thanks for the help pfifo, i'm out.
[03:28] <xangua> azio_m: because .font is a directory or /home/youruser , not /home
[03:28] <xangua> ooh that
[03:29] <tiox> Alright, seems to have fixed the use of expo, it's just odd my settings don't appear to stick in CCSM.
[03:29] <azio_m> xangua: what do you mean?
[03:29] <Guest15643> hi what up
[03:29] <pfifo> azio_m: perhaps you need to mount the home partition on /home
[03:30] <tiox> Cube works too. But when I log into my standalone session, nothing is saved. Hrmm.
[03:31] <azio_m> pfifo: sudo mount /home returns: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/myuser/tty1: Read-only file system
[03:31] <lucasredsn0w> Anyone can help me?
[03:31] <lucasredsn0w> I've got problem installing ubuntu 13.10 on my notebook
[03:32] <hdon> hi all :) i'd like to use kde4 on ubuntu 12.04. i have it installed, i think. but it doesn't appear as an option in lightdm. can anyone help?
[03:32] <lucasredsn0w> hdon: something must be missing
[03:32] <lucasredsn0w> check your packages
[03:32] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, any idea which packages?
[03:32] <hdon> i suspect one of them must provide a file to lightdm which tells it about kde4
[03:33] <hdon> but i'm unfamiliar with lightdm
[03:33] <pfifo> azio_m: mount / as read-write `sudo mount -o remount,rw /` then try again
[03:33] <lucasredsn0w> i dont know
[03:33] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, thanks anyhow. someone else may know
[03:33] <lucasredsn0w> if I want to use KDE i will download Kubuntu
[03:33] <lucasredsn0w> hdon: I've even got problem installing ubuntu
[03:33] <lucasredsn0w> any idea?
[03:33] <lucasredsn0w> My notebook is Lenovo Y410
[03:34] <lucasredsn0w> Core i5 edition
[03:34] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, i'm sorry i don't understand your question
[03:34] <lucasredsn0w> okay I will explain
[03:34] <lucasredsn0w> I tried to boot ubuntu in my Live USB stick
[03:34] <lucasredsn0w> And I used UEFI boot, SecureBoot off
[03:35] <lucasredsn0w> And after grub init, the screen is black
[03:35] <lucasredsn0w> And it stucked there
[03:35] <Beldar> lucasredsn0w, use nicks and consolidate the posts please.
[03:35] <hdon> oh my... i'm afraid i don't know much about UEFI except that it intends to make it difficult to boot anything not crypto signed by some security regime somewhere
[03:36] <lucas> I'll use my nick
[03:36]  * hdon nods
[03:36] <lucas> oh its registered
[03:36] <ubunboy> okay thats good
[03:36] <hdon> heh
[03:36] <ubunboy> .nod
[03:37] <ubunboy> Is there any expert?
[03:37] <Beldar> lucas, excellent the data spread across probably over at least 12 posts and you change your nick, I meant if your talking to someone else tab complete their nick.
[03:37] <hdon> ubunboy, if i might ask, how did you select "uefi boot" or "secureboot" ?
[03:37] <ubunboy> okay
[03:37] <JesseH> I tried to run a game recently, and it said "Couldn't find matching GLX visual". I think its because i broke a package somewhere. any ideas?
[03:37] <ubunboy> hdon, I turned the UEFI boot on and turned the SecureBoot off
[03:38] <hdon> JesseH, please pastebin the output of glxinfo run from a terminal emulator in your X environment
[03:38] <Beldar> !uefi | ubunboy
[03:38] <ubunboy> JesseH, can you tell me your GPU model?
[03:38] <hdon> ubunboy, where/how did you do that?
[03:38] <ubunboy> hdon, simply press F2
[03:38] <hdon> ubunboy, if glx is working for JesseH that info will be available in his glx info paste
[03:39] <hdon> glxinfo*
[03:39] <JesseH> name of display: :0
[03:39] <JesseH> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[03:39] <JesseH> Didnt pastebin, too small for that :P
[03:39] <ubunboy> JesseH, could you use paste.ubuntu.com ?
[03:39] <ubunboy> I've got problem acessing pastebin
[03:39] <hdon> ubunboy, ah, i did not know. what are the meanings of the different options? i assume uefi is supposed to be uefi signed or has a workaround.. what is secureboot?
[03:39] <ubunboy> network issues
[03:40] <ubunboy> SecureBoot is a protection that keeps other OS away from the computer
[03:40] <JesseH> hdon, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6533103/
[03:40] <hdon> JesseH, ah ok. what gpu do you have?
[03:40] <ubunboy> But I've already turned it off!
[03:40] <ubunboy> JesseH, using BumBlebee?
[03:40] <hdon> ubunboy, hmm.. how does it do that? (feel free to ignore me, i'm not being helpful, just curious)
[03:41] <JesseH> What is bumbebee?
[03:41] <ubunboy> Some NV GPUs will have this problem if bumblebee is not correctly installed
[03:41] <hdon> JesseH, do you know the GPU in your machine? use lspci | grep VGA to find i believe
[03:41] <articsun> hey
[03:41] <ubunboy> JesseH, something like Nvidia Optimus, but it is available in linux OS
[03:41] <JesseH> "Mobile Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD graphics card"
[03:41] <JesseH> :P
[03:41] <ubunboy> Oh that's an old GPU
[03:42] <hdon> JesseH, that's not a great GPU but it's better than nothing
[03:42] <JesseH> I ran the game like, 2 days ago.
[03:42] <hdon> anyone know the proper kernel module or package for JesseH ?
[03:42] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, I don't know too much about kernel
[03:42] <hdon> JesseH, did you do any kind of system maintenance like updates or add/remove packages?
[03:42] <JesseH> hdon, oh yeah lol
[03:43] <JesseH> I was clumsy and ignorant about it and broke something i think. :P
[03:44] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, the Ubuntu font is really wonderful
[03:44] <CreamedChicken> Hello! I installed Xubuntu a while ago. There is audio playing a youtube video, but I cannot adjust the volume using the applet.
[03:45] <hdon> JesseH, it happens, especially on ubuntu. ubuntu is very easy for 90% of users, but then 10% who thought it would be easy get stuck because they aren't very experienced. it's okay, i hope someone can help you. i'm googling a little bit, but haven't found anything.
[03:45] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, hm?
[03:45] <lucasredsn0w> CreamedChicken, driver missing?
[03:45] <lucasredsn0w> I mean the font on ubuntu
[03:45] <CreamedChicken> I don't think so, I said, it played audio.
[03:45] <JesseH> hdon, dont think ill ever be experienced enough not to make errors :P
[03:45] <hdon> CreamedChicken, youtube video playing in flash player?
[03:46] <lucasredsn0w> try to change a browser or player
[03:46] <hdon> JesseH, true, nobody is that experienced
[03:46] <CreamedChicken> hdon, yup, it's playing in flash player. There is audio. I just can't adjust it.
[03:46] <hdon> CreamedChicken, that seems odd but flash if proprietary and difficult to say where the problem is unless the solution is already known
[03:47] <CreamedChicken> one sec, it's not an issue with flash
[03:47] <pvl1> pfifo: i cant use mir with official drivers?
[03:47] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, if you know my IP address you may find something
[03:48] <lucasredsn0w> try to WHOIS me
[03:48] <hdon> err.... ok
[03:48] <hdon> i think freenode will not give me your IP though
[03:48] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, you may find my IP location strange
[03:48] <hdon> oh it did
[03:49] <lucasredsn0w> is it starts with 112?
[03:50] <CreamedChicken> http://i.imgur.com/2utOZEy.png
[03:50] <CreamedChicken> There, I drew an arrow.
[03:50] <hdon> yes. no reverse host resolution, assuming i did that right.
[03:50] <hdon> chinese IP?
[03:50] <CreamedChicken> When I click on it, it's just a little white box. No volume slider.
[03:50] <lucasredsn0w> yeah...
[03:51] <hdon> CreamedChicken, oh when you said applet
[03:51] <hdon> CreamedChicken, i thought you meant in flash player
[03:51] <lucasredsn0w> CreamedChicken, seems the applet is broken
[03:51] <hdon> CreamedChicken, you might try restarting the process for the volume control
[03:51] <lucasredsn0w> have you tried restarting the computer?
[03:52] <CreamedChicken> Nope, guess I'll do that.
[03:52] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, how many hops are you to 112.65.215.6? are you behind a proxy?
[03:52] <lucasredsn0w> nope
[03:53] <lucasredsn0w> The network provider did something strange
[03:53] <lucasredsn0w> I dont know either
[03:54] <pfifo> pvl1: no, mir is designed for open source drivers
[03:55] <CreamedChicken> Nope, same problem.
[03:56] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, how did you make the determination that your IP was weird?
[03:56] <Anonymous> is plv1 still around?
[03:56] <hdon> CreamedChicken, try alsamixer from terminal
[03:56] <hdon> arrow keys, control+c to exit
[03:57] <lucasredsn0w> Because I cannot map my ports
[03:57] <Anonymous> Romance: do you think you might be able to help me out. I got disconnected from plv1. ( or someone else )
[03:58] <Anonymous> when i ping 198.168.1.1 it comes from 169.254.10.101
[03:58] <CreamedChicken> http://i.imgur.com/c7H7lMh.png What do I want to adjust?
[03:58] <Anonymous> destination host unreachable.
[03:58] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, the last 10 hops that responded to my trace were all china. according to maxmind.com geoip database, that is. what's weird is the hop from 63.146.27.86 to 219.158.102.219. it goes straight from centurylink (my ISP) to "China Unicom Liaoning
[03:59] <hdon> Anonymous, that's because your routing table hasn't been configured
[03:59] <lucasredsn0w> Because I'am really in China
[03:59] <hdon> Anonymous, please do ifconfig command and pastebin results
[03:59] <lucasredsn0w> But our network provider will connect us to multiple networks
[03:59] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, ah, heh. still i didn't know there was a direct route from my ISP to a chinese backbone
[03:59] <Anonymous> hdon: ok.. I'm probably going to have to type it by hand.
[03:59] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, that's very nice. in case on one of them is peering poorly
[03:59] <hdon> Anonymous, no
[04:00] <hdon> Anonymous, do you know how to copy and paste from terminal to your web browser?
[04:00] <lucasredsn0w> There're multiple route from America to China
[04:00] <hdon> Anonymous, please go to http://pastebin.mozilla.org/ and paste the output of ifconfig into the box and hit Send, then give us the link to your "online paste"
[04:00] <Anonymous> hdon: i can't connect to the web from the computer i need to run ifconfig.
[04:00] <CreamedChicken> So what do I want to adjust in alsamixer? This is what it looks like: (Quit:
[04:00] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, ofc, but i'm pretty far south, i assumed all the transpacific connections were pretty far north, farther north than my ISP went
[04:01] <CreamedChicken> Oops, it's http://i.imgur.com/c7H7lMh.png
[04:01] <hdon> Anonymous, ohhh, of course, sorry
[04:01] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, there are multiple direct routes
[04:01] <lucasredsn0w> And those routes are everywhere
[04:01] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, amazing
[04:02] <hdon> Anonymous, do you have maybe a digital camera phone or something?
[04:02] <hdon> Anonymous, or a USB stick you could use to transfer the paste?
[04:02] <hdon> i don't know how to make this easier, hmmmm....
[04:02] <Anonymous> hdon: I can copy to a usb
[04:02] <Anonymous> :)
[04:02] <hdon> Anonymous, ok. also include then the output of route -n, and iwconfig if you're using wireless networking
[04:02] <Anonymous> hdon: ok.  brb
[04:03] <lucasredsn0w> hdon,  if there aren't these routes I won't be able to upload my files to America in several MB/S
[04:03] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, you mean DOWNLOAD AMERICAN FILES you chinese cyberspy!
[04:03] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, (i'm kidding)
[04:03] <lucasredsn0w> i know
[04:03] <lucasredsn0w> lol
[04:03] <lucasredsn0w> I mean uploading, not dowloading
[04:04] <lucasredsn0w> I'm not a spy at all
[04:04] <lucasredsn0w> hah
[04:04] <SuperVeg_> I got that super monkey swag, super free flow yo
[04:05] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, I use mega.co.nz to share files between countries
[04:05] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, i thought they got shut down
[04:05] <hdon> err.. i'm thinking of megaupload
[04:05] <lucasredsn0w> you mean mega？
[04:05] <hdon> yes but i was thinking of megaupload
[04:06] <lucasredsn0w> Let me see
[04:06] <hdon> megaupload/megavideo/megawhatever i think they had a bunch of websites for sharing files running on the same backend
[04:06] <hdon> where are you from lucasredsn0w ?
[04:06] <lucasredsn0w> Shanghai
[04:06] <lucasredsn0w> lol
[04:06] <hdon> oh, cool
[04:07] <hdon> the only person i ever spoke to in china was a friend of mine who went there to work from here in US
[04:07] <CreamedChicken> What should I do in alsamixer?
[04:07] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, do you have problem understanding my English?
[04:07] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, not at all, that's why i asked where you were from. your english is perfect
[04:08] <Payton> Ok so I have installed ubuntu but now it is running slowly :(
[04:08] <lucasredsn0w> By the way, although my new computer is fast, but I cannot install ubuntu on it :(
[04:08] <hdon> Payton, are you on unity desktop?
[04:08] <Anonymous> hdon: is there somewhere i can paste a photo.. the usb still isn't working for some reason.. :/
[04:09] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, :(
[04:09] <Payton> hdon: ?
[04:09] <Payton> hdon: I'm new to ubuntu..
[04:09] <hdon> Anom01y, i don't know... maybe imgur?
[04:09] <Anonymous> hdon: ok.
[04:09] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, can you tell me your mailbox or something other? so we can be friend
[04:09] <hdon> Payton, never used the shell in another *nix OS like mac os x, solaris, linux?
[04:10] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, /msg'd
[04:10] <Payton> hdon: I have used Mac os x but everything was pre setup for me
[04:10] <lucasredsn0w> i see
[04:10] <hdon> Payton, ok, i think the default keyboard shortcut to launch a terminal emulator is Control+Shift+T
[04:10] <hdon> Payton, when you get the command line, don't be intimidated. this is a place where you can enter commands.
[04:11] <hdon> Payton, oh sorry
[04:11] <pvl1> my mousepad isnt coming up in lspci, where can i see what mousepad my laptop has
[04:11] <hdon> Payton, i forgot i wanted to know if you were using unity
[04:11] <Payton> hdon: I know I have used the linux terminal xD
[04:11] <hdon> Payton, ah ok
[04:11] <hdon> Payton, does your desktop have a "dock" on the left-hand side and a bar along the top with menu/widgets ?
[04:11] <Payton> hdon: Yes
[04:12] <hdon> Payton, the "dock" is supposed to work like the one on mac os x, so at least that will be familiar to you
[04:12] <Anonymous> hdon: http://imgur.com/Z0oUlXd
[04:12] <hdon> Payton, this is the unity desktop. it's not everyone's favorite but it is the default. anyhow it means you can install a particular widget onto the top menu bar that will tell you about the resource utilization of your machine
[04:12] <Payton> hdon: Yes, i am familiar to the ubuntu OS
[04:12] <Anonymous> hdon: it appears as if it is not correct. lol.
[04:13] <Payton> hdon: Just need to speed this CPU up
[04:13] <hdon> Anonymous, very nice pic. i was worried it would be blurry. this is what i expected to see. does your LAN use DHCP?
[04:13] <stevie_man> I have a 10.10 server and I am trying to install squid. When I do a apt-get install squid I get this as the result E: Unable to locate package squid
[04:13] <stevie_man> . I've tried apt-get update, apt-get clean the update. Anything else I can try?
[04:13] <hdon> Payton, it may not be the CPU, we must diagnose what the bottleneck is
[04:13] <Anonymous> hdon: yes, it does.
[04:14] <hdon> Anonymous, you may want to try to run "dhclient eth0" to see if that establishes a dhcp lease from your dhcp server (probably on your LAN appliance) and sets up your routing table
[04:14] <Payton> hdon: What would you suppose it is?
[04:14] <hdon> Anonymous, it could take up to a minute in my experience to get a dhcp lease
[04:15] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, see private messages
[04:15] <hdon> Payton, in my experience CPU is not the bottleneck. usually it is RAM and/or HDD access
[04:15] <Anonymous> hdon: ok, I'll try it.
[04:15] <Payton> hdon: I have set it to 20GB because I'm only using it for programming.
[04:15] <Payton> 20GB HHD
[04:16] <Payton> hdon: and 6GB RAM of my 12GB RAM PC
[04:16] <hdon> Anonymous, if it succeeds, you can run ifconfig and route -n again to see if your eth0 got an address and that your routing table has been altered. then try to ping your LAN appliance with ping command followed by the address of the LAN appliance (a good guess is that it's the same as the IP address you get from DHCP but with the last byte a 1)
[04:16] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, email sent
[04:17] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, cool :) i will check my email in a little while
[04:17] <hdon> Payton, you have it set to 20GB? you mean you partition 20GB for your ubuntu install?
[04:17] <lucasredsn0w> okay
[04:17] <Payton> hdon: Yes.
[04:17] <hdon> Payton, ah, that will not cause a slow-down
[04:17] <lucasredsn0w> Payton, that's too small I think
[04:17] <hdon> Payton, what i mean is, HDD access, reading and writing
[04:17] <lucasredsn0w> at least 30GB
[04:18] <Anonymous> hdon: ok
[04:18] <lucasredsn0w> If you install a lot of stuff you will be short of disk spaces
[04:18] <Payton> lucasredsn0w: Alright, I need to go into the iso and re partition...
[04:18] <hdon> Payton, lucasredsn0w: my ubuntu is installed on only 14GB and it's enough for Ubuntu 12.04 but i wish i had made it twice as large because it needs more space to upgrade, haha
[04:18] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, that's what I mean
[04:18] <Payton> I am running 13.10 :o
[04:19] <hdon> i have no estimation of 13.10's HDD capacity requirements
[04:19] <lucasredsn0w> Payton, no need for re=partitioning
[04:19] <lucasredsn0w> "-“
[04:19] <hdon> but anyhow this is not the focus of the problem
[04:19] <john_doe_jr> I need some advice…my boss has a svn server set up but I don't know the name of it…I can use team viewer to get to my work computer and therefore on my companies network…how would I search for the domain name of the svn server while on our network?
[04:19] <tiox> I sorrt of got my session working. Do I necessarily need to be logged into a GNOME session to get the GNOME system indicators like volume, battery and so on, or is there a special thing I can add into my xsession to make them work?
[04:19] <hdon> Payton, let me get you the name of the package...
[04:19] <Payton> lucasredsn0w: What should I do :P
[04:19] <Payton> hdon: Alright
[04:19] <lucasredsn0w> Payton, just use GParted
[04:19] <tiox> If not the xsession startup script, the .desktop files.
[04:19] <hdon> Payton, install indicator-multiload
[04:19] <lucasredsn0w> and shrink spaces from other partition
[04:20] <lucasredsn0w> GParted is strong enough to do that job
[04:20] <lucasredsn0w> "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[04:20] <hdon> Payton, if it does not automatically show up (it doesn't for me, but others report it does automatically) you can run it from the Unity runner somehow or from a terminal emulator
[04:20] <hdon> Payton, oh or from the run dialog, alt+f2
[04:20] <Payton> I have GParted
[04:20] <Anonymous> hdon: it's still.. well.. doing nothing. lol.
[04:20] <lucasredsn0w> try to use it
[04:20] <tiox> I've followed webupd8's guide on how to make a standalone compiz session.
[04:21] <tiox> Just some things missing, namely, the system indicators; Are the indicators separate programs running in the background?
[04:22] <hdon> Anonymous, so dhclient did not make any changes to the output of ifconfig or route -n ?
[04:22] <Anonymous> it finally gave me a command prompt again.. but ifconfig shows no ip address
[04:22] <Anonymous> let me check th route -n
[04:23] <Anonymous> hdon: still the same in ifconfig and route -n
[04:23] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, private messages has been sent to you
[04:23] <hdon> Anonymous, hmm... check the cable!
[04:24] <Anonymous> Just a quick thanks to everyone on this channel providing help!
[04:25] <Anonymous> hdon: lol.. i'm *pretty* sure it works, we use it everyday to run another server. I will try to find another one really quick though.. because.. you never know.
[04:25] <hdon> Anonymous, it's convenient to have a tester around
[04:26] <hdon> Anonymous, what type of LAN appliance out of curiosity? and also what type of NIC on the machine running ubuntu?
[04:27] <Anonymous> hdon: just plugged the cable back into our VOIP box, and made a call.. works. :)
[04:28] <hdon> too bad. that would have been an easy fix
[04:28] <Anonymous> hdon: LAN appliance? the router? Its a qwest.. something..
[04:28] <Anonymous> hdon: the NIC is built into the board.
[04:28] <hdon> Anonymous, i say "LAN appliance" because it probably performs many functions in one.. obviously it routes, and runs a DHCP server at the very least, maybe even integrated modem?
[04:29] <hdon> Anonymous, if you use lspci | grep Ethernet
[04:29] <hdon> Anonymous, you can see the exact NIC
[04:29] <stevie_man> ok, apparently I can't install anything using apt-get
[04:29] <hdon> stevie_man, you'll have to elaborate
[04:30] <stevie_man> everything I try to install ends up reporting E: Unable to locate package
[04:30] <stevie_man> Everything I read says I need to upgrade because 10.10 is no longer supported
[04:31] <stevie_man> I can't even install update-manager-core to do an upgrade
[04:31] <cfhowlett> stevie_man, download the iso, clean install.
[04:31] <stevie_man> It's a server, I don't have access to it
[04:31] <cfhowlett> stevie_man, download the iso and do a PXE ?
[04:31] <stevie_man> I've never done that.
[04:32] <cfhowlett> and install a LTS version: 12.04 for now.
[04:32] <cfhowlett> !pxe
[04:32] <cfhowlett> !server|stevie_man,
[04:32] <cfhowlett> stevie_man, pretty sure you're neither first nor last with this scenario.  ask in the server channel
[04:33] <Anonymous> hdon: I'm not sure what lspci is, grep Ethernet just hangs the machine up.
[04:33] <stevie_man> cfhowlett: Thanks, there is a server channel? Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks
[04:34] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu-server
[04:34] <stevie_man> chhowlett: Thanks
[04:34] <cfhowlett> stevie_man, good luck
[04:34] <hdon> Anonymous, if you type "grep Ethernet" it will wait for info on a pipe called "stdin" and will wait indefinitely
[04:35] <kalakjsd> hi all, recently i was using visual studio and learning c#, then someone told me to use PHP, because it is free n fast, i installed geany and read a book, the syntax is almost like C, I need to create a webform application, which can query database and show results,a very simple application, which fetch results from the database, but there is no GUi to create forms just like visual studio, how to do that in ubuntu, if this is not the right place, where to go, 
[04:35] <hdon> Anonymous, if its "stdin" is connected to your terminal (as it will be in the case that you've run the command "grep Ethernet") you can send the End Of File signal to cause grep to exit by pressing Control+D
[04:35] <Anonymous> hdon: it seems to be waiting. :)
[04:35] <hdon> Anonymous, also you can generally interrupt a command by pressing Control+C
[04:35] <hdon> Anonymous, lspci is a command that enumerates PCI devices physically installed in your machine.
[04:35] <XHEART24> anyone using 12.04 lts for ipod shuffle?
[04:35] <cfhowlett> kalakjsd, this isn't the programming channel so ... #php
[04:35] <Anonymous> hdon: I think i used control+z to cancel the command
[04:36] <kalakjsd> cfhowlett: thanks
[04:36] <hdon> Anonymous, control+z will put the command to sleep
[04:36] <hdon> Anonymous, if you type the "jobs" shell built-in command in bash, the default ubuntu shell, you will get a list of "sleeping" commands
[04:36] <Anonymous> hdon: good to know!
[04:37] <kalakjsd> cfhowlett: it says joing #php requires a invitation, how do i connect to that specific channel
[04:37] <Anonymous> hdon: the lspci command shows my video cards.. usb controllers.. etc. what should I look for here?
[04:37] <hdon> Anonymous, by using the "pipe" character "|" (on my keyboard it is Shift+Backslash) you can chain two commands together so that the second command reads from the first command
[04:37] <hdon> Anonymous, you do not look, you can have the computer look for you. by using the | character, in a command like this:
[04:38] <hdon> Anonymous, lspci | grep Ethernet
[04:38] <hdon> Anonymous, then you will only see lines from the lspci command which contain the string "Ethernet"
[04:38] <Anonymous> hdon: OHHH!! ok!
[04:39] <Anonymous> hdon: ok, one second, I'll post a pic.
[04:39] <hdon> Anonymous, cool :)
[04:41] <SetiAmon> so is there a way to imrpve wifi I find the linkspeed sucks for some reason
[04:41] <Beldar> SetiAmon, improve; meaning?
[04:42] <Beldar> speed, signal..etc
[04:44] <SetiAmon> well everything frankly
[04:45] <Beldar> SetiAmon, ah excellent a totally vague answer.
[04:45] <SetiAmon> my linkspeed in windows was 600 its about 100 here and only good connection instead of excellent
[04:45] <Anonymous> hdon: http://imgur.com/dZBfUTr
[04:45] <SetiAmon> its a broadcom 4360 based adapter btw
[04:46] <hdon> hmm
[04:47] <jakeharrisjr> Hi does anybody know how to solve blank screen after I choose "Try Ubuntu without Installing" in the GRUB menu
[04:47] <jakeharrisjr> BTW I'm booting from a Live CD
[04:47] <hdon> Anonymous, http://unixblogger.wordpress.com/2011/10/18/the-pain-of-an-realtek-rtl8111rtl8168-ethernet-card/
[04:48] <Beldar> !nomodeset | jakeharrisjr
[04:48] <jakeharrisjr> OK thx
[04:49] <hdon> Anonymous, can you do lspci | grep r816 ?
[04:49] <Anonymous> hdon: ok, this looks fun. :)
[04:49] <Anonymous> hdon: yes, one second
[04:50] <Anonymous> hdon: that returned nothing.
[04:50] <hdon> Anonymous, ok, unless i'm mistaken, i believe that implies that you don't have an appropriate driver installed.
[04:51] <hdon> Anonymous, do you have the Ubuntu disk you installed from?
[04:51] <Anonymous> hdon: so I should follow the other instructions to install it, correct?
[04:51] <loganlee> hello
[04:51] <Anonymous> hdon: yes.. I'm not sure if I have a cd drive that will work with the ubuntu machine, but I can copy it over.
[04:52] <Anonymous> hdon: wait.. I installed it from a usb drive.
[04:53] <hdon> Anonymous, usb should work
[04:54] <hdon> Anonymous, try putting in your USB stick, and then
[04:54] <loganlee> what is knoppix based on?
[04:54] <Anonymous> hdon: yes, I have the usb.
[04:54] <hdon> Anonymous, that might help you when you use "apt-get install" without Internet
[04:54] <hdon> Anonymous, try to follow the directions in the link i gave you
[04:54] <hdon> Anonymous, if you have any problems or questions feel free to ask :)
[04:56] <shaft0> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 13.10 on an Intel NUC DC32171YE, and I can boot to the live environment, but when I try to install, the installation type is blank, I can't select the drive to install to.  I can _see_ the volume, it shows on the desktop as a 32gb volume, but it won't let me install to it.
[04:56] <shaft0> Any ideas?
[04:56] <Anonymous> hdon: ok.
[04:57] <hdon> Anonymous, good luck! i hope is a good learning experience and gets you online!
[04:57] <loganlee> shaft0: try instaling from boot
[04:57] <Beldar> shaft0, Have you checked that ubuntu is even installable on this?
[04:58] <shaft0> Why wouldn't it be?
[04:58] <cfhowlett> shaft0, so that would be a "no"?
[04:59] <stevecam> has anyone had any success install ATI drivers on ubuntu?
[04:59] <cfhowlett> !hardware|shaft0,
[04:59] <Beldar> Beldar, I see a claim of install on it open gparted and see whats there.
[04:59] <pfifo> highlighting yourself?
[05:00] <shaft0> I see it probably has something to do with secure boot
[05:00] <pfifo> loganlee: knoppix is based on debian
[05:01] <Beldar> shaft0, I see a claim of install on it open gparted and see whats there.
[05:01] <loganlee> pfifo: ic
[05:02] <Beldar> pfifo, especially for you, and by the way I asked that user earlier with the broken update to run dist-upgrade and all the commands you asked for.
[05:02] <shaft0> What do you mean Beldar?  Do you have a link to what you're seeing?
[05:02] <stevecam> whenever I install fglrx for my ATI drivers unity just hangs and X tells me its running in low resolution, if i try to build modules from the ati website it just tells me its missing kernel headers
[05:03] <stevecam> which im not
[05:03] <Beldar> shaft0, https://communities.intel.com/thread/40416
[05:03] <pfifo> Beldar: I think you missed the apt-get update, thats the only problem, too bad I didnt have him apt-cache policy linux-image-generic first, we could have actually seen the discrepencay
[05:04] <Beldar> pfifo, I had them tun apt-get update and upgeade and dist-upgrade and show the sources.list and sources.listd
[05:04] <Beldar> run*
[05:05] <loganlee> so...
[05:05] <Beldar> pfifo, They were not really following any help very well and were missing the standard restricted repo is all.
[05:06] <Beldar> as far as I could see, and had several 3rd party repos one ones a game one
[05:06] <Beldar> was*
[05:08] <pfifo> Beldar: no, their line said 'main universe multiverse' for base repo, security, updates and backport, then the 3rd party repos were steam and chrome, neither of wich provide kernels. I think the sources.list was fine
[05:08] <Beldar> pfifo, I think your right looked like it had been messed with is all.
[05:11] <pfifo> Im going to buy a nvidia and a radeon and start specializing in video driver problems
[05:21] <pvl1> anyone know how to make a script run at startup
[05:21] <Sebastien> cron jobs
[05:22] <pvl1> Sebastien: i read that reboot starts it at boot as well... but it doesnt seem to work
[05:26] <hdon> Anonymous, how's it going?
[05:28] <tiox> There's an interesting issue with Avant Window Navigator from awn-testing PPA; Creation of a new dock through AWN settings produces a duplicate dock with the same settings, that cannot be positioned separate from the origin dock.
[05:28] <fixmypc956> ho do I install mediatomb thru command line
[05:29] <cfhowlett> fixmypc956, sudo apt-get install foo.deb is the traditional method
[05:29] <tiox> Since AWN is pretty dormant still (as in, no new release under the 0.4 branch since the new maintainer took over), figured it would be more worthwhile mentioning the issue here.
[05:29] <tiox> Whatever mediatomb is installable as, i.e. sudo apt-get install mediatomb
[05:29] <fixmypc956> foo.deb?
[05:30] <cfhowlett> fixmypc956, "foo.deb" = linux speak for "filename here" + "debian package"
[05:31] <tiox> If that does not work, then sudo apt-get install synaptic, then sudo synaptic to open with root privileges, let the search index rebuld and search "mediatomb"
[05:31] <fixmypc956> I tried sudo apt-get install mediatomb and it dosen work
[05:31] <cfhowlett> fixmypc956, and the error message was ... ?
[05:31] <Anonymous> hdon: ok.. sorry for the delay. it says build-essential has no installation candidate. Is that because it's not connected to the internet?
[05:31] <tiox> If not that, must be available as a personal package archive --  Tye a Google search "mediatomb ppa"
[05:31] <tiox> try*
[05:32] <cfhowlett> tiox, its in the universe repo ...\
[05:33] <hdon> Anonymous, hmm, i would have hoped that was found on the usb stick
[05:33] <tiox> Ah.
[05:33] <tiox> Are you running as a live session, fixmypc956?
[05:33] <hdon> Anonymous, you could download the packages you need manually onto usb and install them from there
[05:33] <hdon> Anonymous, perhaps someone else can tell you how to query apt to find all dependencies of the packages you need, and how to download them manually
[05:34] <hdon> i don't know how exactly to do those
[05:34] <hdon> but it shouldn't be too hard
[05:34] <Anonymous> hdon: ok, i'll give it a shot!
[05:34] <hdon> Anonymous, good luck!
[05:34] <tiox> Also, fixmypc956 terminal commands need to be opened in the terminal -- Package does exist, should work if you either install the system or muck about in software-properties-gtk to enable Universe and Multiverse repositories.
[05:35] <tiox> Need to be executed in the terminal rather.
[05:35] <CarlFK> Anonymous: there is a tool/app to do that.. let me see if I cna find it
[05:35] <Anonymous> CarlFK: thank you sir!
[05:35] <tiox> Also, foo.deb is a bad example for apt, more suited for dpkg.
[05:37] <tiox> Does anyone know how to ger the bluetooth, volume and battery indicators working outside of a GNOME session?
[05:37] <SetiAmon> amazing
[05:37] <SetiAmon> my wifi connection is 1000x better after ditching network manager and installing wicd.
[05:38] <SetiAmon> i don't know why though arn't they just both overlays for wpa supplicant
[05:38] <tiox> nm-applet and related must do other stuff in the background that's suppose to keep a connection up, but is cointer-intuitive on your particular hardware setup.
[05:39] <tiox> counter-intuitive*\
[05:39] <tiox> That's the only explanation I can conjure.
[05:40] <SetiAmon> I remember i had issues with wifi years ago on jaunty and resolved it with wicd also.wicd doesn't look as nice but it is better it seems.
[05:41] <SetiAmon> i got 72 signle strength and much snappier speeds
[05:42] <fixmypc956> im trying to install it on ubuntu server
[05:43] <fixmypc956> I get a bunch of temporary failure
[05:43] <c8> ?
[05:43] <Payton> Beldar: What partitions should I create for the best ubuntu experience?
[05:43] <Payton> And what sizes?
[05:44] <fixmypc956> like its trying to connect to certain urls and it doesnt connect
[05:44] <Junior> yello ;)
[05:44] <c8> can i change the loading screen after booting for pinguy os 12.04?
[05:45] <cfhowlett> !derivative|c8 best to ask in pinguy OS
[05:45] <cfhowlett> !flavors
[05:45] <c8> okay i am not sure how to get there haha thanks
[05:46] <DeepBlue> hi, i have 2 reinstall and i have got the home folder in a separate partition ,how 2 guarantee it will not b overwritten?
[05:47] <cfhowlett> DeepBlue, move it to a /home
[05:47] <CarlFK> Anonymous: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Synaptic/PackageDownloadScript (i think.. not sure how current this is)
[05:47] <cfhowlett> !home|DeepBlue,
[05:47] <cfhowlett> DeepBlue, and make sure you do NOT format that partition during install
[05:47] <Payton> What partitions should I create for the best ubuntu experience?
[05:47] <Payton> And what sizes?
[05:48] <pfifo> Payton: 8GB / and the rest in a seperate partition for /home
[05:48] <DeepBlue> cfhowlett: it's already there
[05:48] <Payton> Ok thanks
[05:48] <cfhowlett> Payton, best?  too many variables to guess at YOUR optimal solutions.  Personally: 12 gigs for /  (root filesystem)   2 X 4 gigs = 8 gigs /swap   and the rest is in /home
[05:49] <cfhowlett> Payton, but YMMV.
[05:49] <c8> is there a benefit to partitions?
[05:50] <c8> why not just one
[05:50] <pfifo> c8: you can format and reinstall, but save your personal files in a second partition
[05:51] <DeepBlue> cfhowlett: if i didn't format this partition,do u think it won't b overwritten?bu i have 2 use the same username
[05:51] <Anonymous> CarlFK: thanks! I'll take a look at it.
[05:51] <CarlFK> Anonymous: good luck - if that doesn't seem right, you know what sorts of things to look for
[05:52] <Guest61244> why such a large Swap location?  isnt 8 gigs alot?
[05:53] <c8> depends on your wallet..
[05:54] <SetiAmon> you think setting up a static ip on my router/wifi adapter is of any benefit
[05:54] <Guest61244> Are all packages from repos installed into your /home directory?
[05:54] <fixmypc956> I get this error, Temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com' and I have no idea why
[05:55] <pfifo> Guest61244: you need alot of swap to hibernate your system, other than that, most modern computers wont ever use it
[05:55] <fixmypc956> can anyone help with that issue...I even tried sudo apt-get update
[05:55] <fixmypc956> and still the same issue
[05:55] <Payton> cfhowlett: Wait, are you sure, I'm using VBox :P
[05:56] <cfhowlett> DeepBlue, during install you can assign /home to the specified partition.  you need to manually do the partitioning, not the automatic option?
[05:56] <pfifo> fixmypc956: are you connected to the internet?
[05:56] <hje841> How do I get sound through my hdmi cable in Ubuntu 13.10?
[05:56] <fixmypc956> yes
[05:56] <pfifo> fixmypc956: try a different mirror
[05:56] <cfhowlett> Payton, sure of ?  completely forgot what we were doing/  sorry.
[05:56] <fixmypc956> I am connected to it remotely
[05:56] <Payton> cfhowlett: Partitioning
[05:56] <Guest61244> Hibernate system?  As in when closing your laptop while the power is still on?
[05:56] <fixmypc956> I would guess it is connected to the internet
[05:57] <pfifo> Guest61244: its a power saving mode
[05:57] <Payton> cfhowlett: cfhowlett - Payton, best?  too many variables to guess at YOUR optimal solutions.  Personally: 12 gigs for /  (root filesystem)   2 X 4 gigs = 8 gigs /swap   and the rest is in /home
[05:57] <Payton> there
[05:57] <Guest61244> right yesthanks
[05:57] <ChronicLlama> HAI
[05:57] <cfhowlett> Payton, ah yes.  right.  I use similar set up on virtualbox.  I' use more space in /filesystem as I run ubuntustudio + sputnik packages
[05:57] <fixmypc956> how can I verify that it is connected to the internet
[05:58] <ChronicLlama> question....would using a usb stick for swap be better than the HDD reading simultaneously ?
[05:58] <Payton> cfhowlett: Alright :) thanks
[05:58] <cfhowlett> Payton, but I use less ram and for vbox, i install 32 bit ubuntu
[05:58] <pfifo> ChronicLlama: no, usb is slow
[05:58] <ChronicLlama> slower...than a HDD....?
[05:58] <ChronicLlama> @7200rpm
[05:58] <Guest61244> Pfifo perhaps you can help me here.  Are all packages and applications installed on Ubuntu through repos or downloaded manually, installed into the /home directory?
[05:59] <pfifo> ChronicLlama: yes, many times slower
[05:59] <cfhowlett> Guest61244, /home is for your program configurations and settings.  apps should NOT be installing in /home
[05:59] <Guest61244> ahh ok I thought so thanks
[06:00] <pfifo> Guest61244: no, they are downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archives and the unpacked into / your /home directory should never be modified by installing a package (or removing one)
[06:00] <ChronicLlama> ok thank you pfifo
[06:00] <fixmypc956> how can I verify that my server has a connection to the internet
[06:00] <cfhowlett> fixmypc956, ping www.google.com
[06:00] <CarlFK> cfhowlett: goo.gl is less typing :)
[06:01] <cfhowlett> CarlFK, noted
[06:01] <Payton> cfhowlett: How do I get a full display on VBox?
[06:01] <fixmypc956> I get ping: unknown host www.google.com
[06:01] <Payton> Just do google.com
[06:01] <pfifo> fixmypc956: sounds like your DNS isnt working properly
[06:02] <bhavesh> How do I transfer a 4.6GB file from my desktop running Ubuntu 13.10 connected with ethernet to a wifi router to my laptop running Ubuntu 13.10 GNOME connected to the same network using the same routers wifi?
[06:02] <cfhowlett> Payton, get the vbox version from oracle, not the software center.  install.  then see "help" guest additions and follow the instructions.
[06:02] <bhavesh> I don't have a flash drive right now.
[06:02] <fixmypc956> pfifo: How do I fix that issue
[06:02] <Payton> cfhowlett: I mean on windows :P
[06:02] <cfhowlett> bhavesh, vinagre will allow you to remotedesktop.   drag and drop between machines
[06:02] <Payton> and I do have the oracle virsion :P
[06:02] <pfifo> bhavesh: i have a httpd installed, i use that for file transfers
[06:03] <pfifo> fixmypc956: pastebin the output of 'dig ubuntu.com'
[06:03] <cfhowlett> Payton, right. not 100% sure windows host will allow guest additions but it's the same process.
[06:03] <kevin__> Just had a Kernel Panic
[06:04] <bhavesh> okay.
[06:04] <shaft0> Beldar:  I figured it out!!!
[06:04] <pfifo> Payton: if your installing to a vbox, you really only need one partition, you likely wont save all your important docs in /home
[06:04] <Beldar> shaft0, Cool what was the issue?
[06:04] <shaft0> Beldar: dmraid -E -r /dev/sda and THEN it showed up
[06:04] <Payton> cfhowlett: Where would i find how to do it?
[06:05] <shaft0> Presumably something to do with ISRT
[06:05] <Beldar> shaft0, I figured it was something.
[06:05] <shaft0> Me too, but what a nightmare
[06:05] <shaft0> I bought the thing used and the guy had windows on it
[06:06] <shaft0> I *almost* used it with Windows...
[06:06] <shaft0> Yikes.
[06:06] <Beldar> shaft0, That intel link was the only one I could find.
[06:06] <shaft0> Close one!
[06:06] <fixmypc956> pfifo: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6533452/
[06:07] <azio_m> do you guys recommend LVM with a new ubuntu installation?
[06:07] <pfifo> fixmypc956: pastebin the output of 'ls -la /etc/resolv.conf && cat /etc/resolv.conf'
[06:08] <pfifo> azio_m: if your single booting ubuntu with no intention of installing another OS and have a valid reason to use LVM then yes, otherwise no
[06:09] <azio_m> pfifo: does it affect speed in any way?
[06:09] <azio_m> i don't have another os on the pc
[06:09] <pfifo> azio_m: it dose, it can go either way depending on your setup
[06:09] <fixmypc956> pfifo: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6533460/
[06:09] <tavistock> can someone help me figure out how to get an xbox controller to work in crouton(saucy xfce)
[06:10] <bazhang> tavistock, crouton? is that MINT?
[06:10] <tavistock> chroot chrome os ubuntu
[06:11] <cfhowlett> Payton, look in the help menu of virtualbox
[06:11] <Payton> cfhowlett: Yes, I did, nothing there
[06:11] <cfhowlett> Payton, virtualbox > Help > "guest additions"
[06:11] <Payton> cfhowlett: There are no guest additions
[06:12] <shaft0> Beldar:  This was the link that helped me fix it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2050413&highlight=installation+type
[06:12] <tavistock> but really is just ubuntu sans vm kernels
[06:13] <pfifo> fixmypc956: try 'sudo restart networking' it might boot you out of ssh when it goes down.
[06:13] <fixmypc956> ok let me try
[06:13] <cfhowlett> Payton, as I said, I'm not sure windows virtualbox supports guess additions.
[06:13] <cfhowlett> !paste
[06:14] <fixmypc956> I get restart: unknowk instance
[06:15] <pfifo> fixmypc956: maybe its 'sudo restart network-manager'
[06:15] <cfhowlett> Payton, download the Extension Pack from oracle and install.  then try again.
[06:15] <Payton> link please
[06:16] <cfhowlett> Payton, https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[06:16] <Payton> Thanks
[06:16] <fixmypc956> pfifo: got the same error
[06:16] <cfhowlett> Payton, no worries
[06:16] <pfifo> fixmypc956: have you tried rebooting to fix this?
[06:16] <fixmypc956> pfifo: should I just restart the server
[06:17] <fixmypc956> no that was the next option
[06:18] <pfifo> fixmypc956: since i dont know the exact option to restart networking, reboot is sufficient. I know how I do it, but its not the "ubuntu way" so I dont recommend it to others
[06:19] <Payton> cfhowlett: What do I do now?
[06:23] <cfhowlett> Payton, installed extensions?  restart vbox and see the help menu for guest additions help
[06:25] <Payton> cfhowlett: uh, still no guest additions
[06:25] <Payton> :(
[06:26] <cfhowlett> Payton, may not be possible on windows.  sorry.  but since xp is officially and finally dead in 4 months, perhaps dual booting is in order;.
[06:27] <Payton> cfhowlett: :(
[06:27] <Payton> cfhowlett: Would SD work? I don't have a USB
[06:28] <yogeshsarwate> Hi
[06:28] <oakridge> hello
[06:28] <yogeshsarwate> Hi all
[06:28] <Payton> wait found display
[06:29] <Payton> What should I use what width and height
[06:29] <cfhowlett> Payton, haven't yet done SD so I don't know.  but you should be able to scale display to full width.  whatever they are.
[06:29]  * yogeshsarwate slapped [1]JPeterson with a wet kipper!
[06:29] <yogeshsarwate> Soort mr. Peterson i am new to irc
[06:30] <Payton> cfhowlett: Whats the best width and height?
[06:30] <yogeshsarwate> Extremly sorry about it
[06:30] <cfhowlett> Payton, I don't know your display specs?
[06:31] <Payton> 1366 x 768
[06:31] <cfhowlett> Payton, there it is, then!
[06:31] <Payton> Will I still be able to minimize it? xD
[06:32] <cfhowlett> Payton, sure. bring up the display menu and do that
[06:32] <cfhowlett> Payton, via keypress or hotzone for the mouse
[06:32] <Payton> yaaaay done
[06:32] <cfhowlett> Payton, see how easy that was?
[06:33] <articsun> yogeshsarwate,  got the message?
[06:33] <cfhowlett> :)
[06:33] <Alex36_> Hi all :)
[06:33] <articsun> I'll help ya
[06:33] <cfhowlett> Alex36_, greetings
[06:33] <Payton> Wait, it still looks like a bordered small box
[06:33] <Payton> :(
[06:33] <cfhowlett> Payton, of course.  it's not a guest addition display so won't be as pretty
[06:33] <v0latil3_> stevildead are you here?
[06:34] <SetiAmon> so is there any plans for wireless ac to be implemented in linux
[06:34] <v0latil3_> are there*
[06:35] <v0latil3_> loololol grammer popo
[06:37] <Alex36> maybe it's a stupid question but i need to clarify me this concept :P I have read about "teaming" of two or more network cards, if I understood correctly this is used for redudancy and high availability of network (if the machine works as server). My question now is, can I use two network cards together and get better speed (so it means that there is the
[06:37] <Alex36> possibility to transfer data/files together and at the same time?)
[06:38] <cfhowlett> Alex36, ascynchronous transmission?  sure.
[06:38] <Alex36> :D sounds good
[06:38] <fixmypc956> pfifo: still the same issue
[06:39] <SetiAmon> I took out my inferior wifi carb because i found running two wifi cards broke network manager.it couldn't handle it
[06:39] <SetiAmon> although worked fine in windows.
[06:40] <ChronicLlama> whats the easiest way to play windows games on linux?
[06:40] <ChronicLlama> i know of wine
[06:40] <ChronicLlama> but i herd something about other programs
[06:40] <cfhowlett> ChronicLlama, playonlinux
[06:40] <ttyX> steam for linux
[06:40] <Alex36> Thanks for the replies, so now I will think about it :D
[06:41] <kevin__> Got a DirectX error when attempting to Play Path of Exile using PlayOnLinux
[06:41] <ChronicLlama> ok thanks cfhowlett
[06:41] <joobz> Guys, is my RAID degraded - http://pastebin.com/hPnVSEWq ?
[06:42] <diverdude> Hi, is LTO-6 the most recent tape format for backup?
[06:44] <tsnyph> just a quick question. Why is it when i purge a program, it still has it in the synaptic package manager?
[06:44] <myhappy> hello
[06:45] <cfhowlett> tsnyph, properly purged, no.
[06:45] <tsnyph> how do i purge properly?
[06:46] <cfhowlett> tsnyph, sudo apt-get purge packagename
[06:46] <tsnyph> thats what i used
[06:46] <cfhowlett> diverdude, perhaps ask in #ubuntu-server?
[06:47] <cfhowlett> tsnyph, apt-cache policy packagename should show not installed
[06:48] <Alex36> Do I need special hardware switch for ascynchronous transmission? Or a normal gbit switch it's enough?
[06:48] <tsnyph> clamtk:
[06:48] <tsnyph>   Installed: (none)
[06:48] <cfhowlett> tsnyph, yep.
[06:48] <tsnyph> but why is it still showing in the synaptic?
[06:49] <cfhowlett> tsnyph, you want to purge it from the universal package manager so NO ONE can get it?
[06:49] <tsnyph> yes
[06:49] <tsnyph> lol
[06:51] <TurnAirPhoto> hello, this is my first time here, a little help would be appreicated
[06:51] <cfhowlett> TurnAirPhoto, provide details and ask your question.    and welcome!
[06:51] <cfhowlett> !details
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[06:52] <cfhowlett> ^^^spam^^^\
[06:52] <tsnyph> is this error anything to worry about?
[06:52] <tsnyph> could not grab your mouse. a malicious program my be evesdropping on your session
[06:52] <cfhowlett> tsnyph, it's not an error!
[06:53] <cfhowlett> tsnyph, ooops.  nevermind
[06:53] <TurnAirPhoto> I am trying to properly install Paparazzi UAV software, as a first-time Ubuntu user I have a feeling I have not gotten all the parts that I  need properly downloaded and installed
[06:53] <cfhowlett> tsnyph, what program is giving you that?
[06:53] <tsnyph> i was just trying to run synaptic as administrator and i got that error
[06:54] <cfhowlett> tsnyph, logout/login and try again
[06:54] <tsnyph> ok
[06:54] <cfhowlett> TurnAirPhoto, I can't see the details, but I'd guess you installed via PPA or what?
[06:55] <TurnAirPhoto> ahhh, now we are getting to something I have heard before, I was just researcfhing PPA
[06:56] <cfhowlett> !ppa|TurnAirPhoto, PPA install then?
[06:57] <TurnAirPhoto> Ok I already got deep enough to read that warning Ubottu
[06:57] <cfhowlett> TurnAirPhoto, unsuppported and run at your own risk.  might be best to ask paparazzi for install support and instructions
[07:00] <TurnAirPhoto> I did something in System Software Sources, but now have closed too many windows to accurately report what exactly they are
[07:01] <TurnAirPhoto> and cant find my way back there
[07:03] <Guardian1> im having trouble getting VSFTPD to work via these instructions
[07:03] <Guardian1> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-vsftpd-on-ubuntu-12-04
[07:03] <Guardian1> it fails when trying to connect to the server using filezilla
[07:04] <Guardian1> Response:	500 OOPS: priv_sock_get_cmd
[07:04] <fixmypc956> issue fixed....no nameserver on /etc/resolv.conf
[07:08] <TurnAirPhoto> is there a PAPARAZZI channel somewhere
[07:15] <linu1> hi all i have been trying to work on rtl8723as wifi module,i have successfully installed driver,but when i try to up module and configure wifi it throws me the errors repeatedly, please see http://pastebin.com/7mTeb7gf can you help me to solve this issues
[07:31] <user> i want to make the ubuntu iso smaller, get it down to about 400MB, so i can toram boot it on my netbook can anyone help or point me in the right direction
[07:32] <cfhowlett> !mini|user,
[07:32] <lolcat> Is Ubuntu 13.04 good with drivers+
[07:32] <lolcat> ?
[07:32] <lolcat> 13.10 maybe?
[07:33] <lolcat> I need ATI 7770M drivers
[07:33] <user> cfhowlett: i am looking to use this as a live dvd, and the harddrive (ssd) in there is broken
[07:34] <cfhowlett> user, try lubuntu: smaller, lighter, optimized for low spec machines
[07:34] <user> cfhowlett: i was thinking of removing some of the unneed stuff, like openoffice and java, as i only use the netbook for checking my email and watching youtube in the kitchen
[07:34] <cju-pp> I am using EC2 to host an Ubuntu server. After a few hours of running, the SSH crashes. If I stop and start the server it works again, I can't figure out why this is happening, anyone have any ideas what logs I should look through to start figuring it out? I have googled online for the past few hours already.
[07:34] <user> cfhowlett: its still to big, its like 700MB, i need the iso file small, so i can use the toram kernal boot param
[07:35] <cfhowlett> !server|cju-pp,
[07:35] <cfhowlett> user, you might want to try something like puppy or damnsmalllinux
[07:36] <user> cfhowlett: cant i just boot from the live cd, uninstall and bunch of stuff and then just create my own linux light version from there?
[07:36] <cfhowlett> user, making a custom cd while booted in live?  I'd be surprised.  ask in the channel again, I've never done one
[07:37] <user> cfhowlett: thanks for the help anyway
[07:38] <user> I am looking to create my own customer version of the ubuntu 13.10 dvd, i want to make it much smaller can someone please point me in the right direction
[07:39] <user> cfhowlett: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[07:39] <user> cfhowlett: i think i might be able to get somewhere with this.
[07:40] <cfhowlett> user, right, that should get you going.
[07:40] <user> cfhowlett: thanks for the time, c ya
[07:41] <linu1> hi all can you tell me, how can i throw (or) redirect logs  which i get while configuring wifi,
[07:41] <leftist> !seen seveas
[07:42] <leftist> is there an edition i can try out with a lenovo yoga?
[07:46] <TurnAirPhoto> what does the following mean:
[07:46] <TurnAirPhoto> administrator@turnairphoto:~$ apt-get install git
[07:46] <TurnAirPhoto> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[07:46] <TurnAirPhoto> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[07:46] <TurnAirPhoto> administrator@turnairphoto:~$
[07:47] <Aumpa> Hello! I'm a new ubuntu user! I just installed it on my Chromebook 14 with Crouton. But I'm having issues. :/
[07:47] <Aumpa> I've been trying to following the advice on http://www.unixmen.com/top-things-installing-ubuntu-13-10/
[07:48] <Aumpa> How do I install the ubuntu software centre?
[07:48] <samuraibsd> Hi, I'm on 13.10 and whenever I open Kate now, the window spawns to the top left of the desktop, so far that the window controls are underneat the top Unity panel. Is there some way to fix this?
[07:52] <vaio> hey, deja-dup fails on restore, it says directory doesn't exist, tried restoring to a different folder, any idea how to circument that error?
[07:59] <vaio> someone familiar with deja-dup?
[07:59] <vaio> http://askubuntu.com/questions/387363/deja-dup-failes-to-restore-folder-doesnt-exist
[08:02] <theadmin> vaio: You need to point dèjá dup to a folder with the archive, not the archive itself.
[08:03] <vaio> theadmin: the restore works, it just stops during the restore
[08:03] <theadmin> vaio: Ah. Now that's odd.
[08:03] <theadmin> vaio: Either way, you should be able to just unpack the archive like an ordinary one
[08:03] <theadmin> vaio: So if all else fails...
[08:04] <theadmin> vaio: (but, make sure to unpack to a Linux-ish filesystem, or else your permissions will go crazy)
[08:04] <vaio> trying the folder restore from within nautilus now
[08:05] <vaio> yeah, i'm and was under 13/10
[08:05] <vaio> 13.10
[08:05] <theadmin> vaio: I mean, don't unpack to your external hard drive, unless it's also ext4 or whatever FS you had when creating the backup.
[08:06] <vaio> ah yeah, it's ext4 for sure
[08:14] <Aumpa> I've been getting error messages like the one in this pic: http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-12072013-120800am.php What's going on? I'm a new user and know very little. I just installed ubuntu tonight.
[08:15] <bazhang> Aumpa, only one instance of apt can run at a time
[08:15] <theadmin> Aumpa: Do you have any other programs open that are using APT? Software Centre, Update Manager, other apt-gets?
[08:16] <Aumpa> Hmm...
[08:16] <Beldar> Aumpa, The software center is already installed
[08:17] <theadmin> Beldar: Not necessarily. Some editions of Ubuntu come without it (Lubuntu and Kubuntu, for example)
[08:17] <Aumpa> I used Crouton to install ubuntu on a Chromebook.
[08:17] <theadmin> Oh dear...
[08:17] <theadmin> Aumpa: That's... not really supported. May be some Chromebook-specific problem, too
[08:18] <Aumpa> hmm.
[08:18] <Beldar> theadmin, sure, however they said ubuntu is all.
[08:18] <Aumpa> I don't see the software center or update manager anywhere.
[08:19] <Aumpa> I've been trying to follow the directions here: http://www.unixmen.com/top-things-installing-ubuntu-13-10/
[08:19] <Beldar> Aumpa, ubuntu software center, you have a panel on the left of the screen?
[08:19] <Aumpa> No, no panel on the left.
[08:19] <Beldar> Aumpa, So, what is the actual install desktop wise?
[08:19] <theadmin> Beldar: Crouton installs Xfce by default.
[08:20] <theadmin> Beldar: I'm not even sure it's the proper Xubuntu desktop, though.
[08:20] <theadmin> (I don't have a Chromebook to test this on)
[08:21] <brainrum> is LVm encryption usefull and secure when installing ubuntu?
[08:22] <Aumpa> looks like this: http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-12072013-122125am.php
[08:23] <Aumpa> Is that basic Xfce?
[08:24] <theadmin> It is Xfce, yes.
[08:26] <theadmin> Aumpa: Well, if you are *sure* that no other apps are using apt, you can release this lockfile by rebooting or by "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[08:26] <BlackBeaver> Hello?
[08:26] <theadmin> BlackBeaver: Greetings.
[08:27] <Aumpa> I'll try rebooting.
[08:30] <aisyah> hello
[08:30] <BlackBeaver> Hi!
[08:30] <aisyah> i need help here
[08:30] <BlackBeaver> Need some help?
[08:30] <aeon-ltd> ask
[08:30] <aisyah> i cannot logon to gui screen
[08:31] <aisyah> now i am stuck in terminal
[08:31] <BlackBeaver> You use Linux?
[08:31] <aeon-ltd> type startx
[08:31] <aisyah> yes
[08:31] <BlackBeaver> Ubuntu?
[08:31] <aisyah> ubuntu 12.04
[08:31] <k1l> aeon-ltd: no
[08:31] <BlackBeaver> AHh
[08:31] <aisyah> this was happend after i updated the propretiary nvidia driver from 304 to 319. please help. i don't want to       │ epritchett
[08:31] <aisyah>                   │                | reformat it as i already did so much setting. :(
[08:32] <theadmin> aisyah: Remove proprietary from premises. Should help.
[08:32] <aisyah> theadmin: how to do it?
[08:32] <theadmin> aisyah: (as in, remove the nvidia driver, reboot and see if it works)
[08:32] <theadmin> aisyah: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-*
[08:34] <aisyah> theadmin: okay...let me try
[08:34] <BlackBeaver> Hello?
[08:34] <BlackBeaver> Hello
[08:34] <theadmin> aisyah: Actually, first you could try running nvidia-xconfig to create a new proprietary driver configuration
[08:34] <k1l> !ask | BlackBeaver
[08:34] <theadmin> aisyah: ...although it probably does that automatically nowadays. Not sure.
[08:35] <aisyah> is this caused i didn't deactivate the 304 driver before update to 319 driver?
[08:35] <theadmin> aisyah: Nah, shouldn't cause issues
[08:35] <testpil0t> aisyah, maybe also try to rerun dkms
[08:36] <Aumpa> Now I'm in a fix. I can't switch back to ubuntu using ctrl-alt-shift-forward on my Chromebook. :/
[08:36] <aisyah> theadmin: should i reboot?
[08:36] <k1l> installing a sideload video driver over a running nvidia driver can cause this.
[08:36] <aisyah> testpil0t: what is dkms?
[08:37] <testpil0t> Dynamic Kernel Module Support
[08:38] <theadmin> aisyah: Yeah, you shoudl
[08:38] <theadmin> aisyah: sudo reboot
[08:39] <aisyah> k1l: do you mean, we should de-activate current driver before update?
[08:39] <aisyah> reboot done... now new problem
[08:40] <aisyah> i stuck at login screen eventhough i entered the correct password
[08:40] <Aumpa> How can I switch back to ubuntu if the usual command of ctrl-alt-shift-forward commands doesn't work to switch between OSes?
[08:41] <aisyah> my mouse cursor does not move at all. :(
[08:43] <theadmin> Aumpa: Chromebooks aren't a supported installation. Sorry, you're on your own with that.
[08:45] <Aumpa> Okay, thanks for trying.
[08:47] <prashant_123456> i want to burn a multisession data dvd with the help of terminal can anyone suggest a proper command for it, but the requirement is that the dvd shoud be able to read under windows os and must be in udf format
[08:48] <theadmin> prashant_123456: "wodim" is typically used to write data to CD/DVD drives. However, I'm not sure about multisession.
[08:49] <prashant_123456> growisofs theadmin
[08:49] <theadmin> prashant_123456: Oh, that looks interesting.
[08:49] <theadmin> ...I haven't used optical media in ages
[08:50] <theadmin> So not much aware of things on that front
[08:51] <JesseH> Is it possible to change to a 64 bit architecture while on 32 bit? ^^
[08:52] <ariscop> JesseH, it's possible, but it's a fair amount of work
[08:52] <JesseH> Well I need to do it...I don't have any other media to use.
[08:52] <benishor> Hi there. Say I write a c++ app and I want to package and distribute it in the form of a .deb file. Can anybody point me to a proper resource of learning about how to create a package for dummies?
[08:53] <JesseH> ariscop, How do I learn to do such a thing?
[08:53] <theadmin> benishor: Easiest way: make a Makefile or a script that installs all files to their respective locations, run that script under "checkinstall".
[08:54] <ariscop> JesseH, with a fair amount of experience, i've done it on arch but don't know enough about ubuntu to actually do it
[08:55] <benishor> theadmin: sounds too easy :) do you happen to have a link/reference for this?
[08:55] <Guest71341> i have voice and mic problem with skype an the new ubuntu version
[08:55] <theadmin> JesseH: It's not supported. A reinstall is probably the only reasonable option. Do you have a USB?
[08:55] <Guest71341> i have thinkpad t60
[08:55] <JesseH> theadmin, Ill have to order one now.
[08:56] <JesseH> Or is it possible to run a 64 bit application on 32 bit? :P
[08:56] <JesseH> Any possible way at all?
[08:56] <theadmin> benishor: No need, just "sudo checkinstall COMMAND". COMMAND is your install script. The tool is fully interactive, it will ask you for the package name, version, dependencies and other stuff.
[08:56]  * JesseH is cheap
[08:56] <theadmin> JesseH: No... What app do you want to run that does *not* have a 32-bit version?
[08:56] <benishor> theadmin: thank you very much!
[08:57] <JesseH> theadmin, If I can't, then explaining it isn't much use. Thanks anyway!
[08:58] <theadmin> JesseH: Here's a trick you might make use of. Install "grml-rescueboot". Place an Ubuntu ISO in /boot/grml and run sudo update-grub. Find the ISO entry in the GRUB menu, append "toram" to the line and boot it.
[08:58] <theadmin> JesseH: Then you can reinstall by magic. But you need plenty of RAM to do this.
[08:58] <JesseH> I have, 1.5 gb of ram
[08:58] <Guest71341> i have skype problems
[08:58] <theadmin> JesseH: Hm, will probably be enough. I hope...
[08:58] <theadmin> JesseH: Just a suggestion, though
[08:58] <Guest71341> dont work good
[08:58] <theadmin> Guest71341: Details, please?
[08:58] <JesseH> theadmin, gonna try it.. lol
[08:59] <Guest71341> its a very loud noise
[08:59] <Guest71341> i dont know whats wrong
[08:59] <Guest71341> i  have ibm thinkpad t60
[08:59] <Guest71341> ubunt new version
[08:59] <Guest71341> and skype microphone and sound is  shit and not working
[09:00] <bazhang> Guest71341, no cursing here please
[09:00] <Guest71341> is my laptop broken or what?
[09:00] <Guest71341> i dont know if its hardware or software problem
[09:00] <theadmin> Guest71341: Have you installed Skype from the Software Center, or from skype.com?
[09:01] <Guest71341> skype com deb package
[09:01] <bazhang> !enter | Guest71341
[09:01] <theadmin> Guest71341: Remove that kebab and install Skype from the Software Centre, it has some fixes there.
[09:01] <Guest71341> how remove i my old skype
[09:02] <theadmin> Guest71341: sudo apt-get purge skype:i386 I beleive.
[09:02] <Guest71341> and istalling from software center will help you think
[09:03] <theadmin> Guest71341: Normally does, yes, there are known problems with skype from the website. I'm not sure how or why, but the SC version fixes most of those.
[09:05] <bazhang> !info skype partner | Guest71341
[09:06] <bazhang> Guest71341, be sure the partner software repository is enabled
[09:06] <Guest71341> how do i refresh the software center
[09:07] <Guest71341> i deleted skype with software center
[09:07] <Guest71341> and the install button is not there
[09:07] <bazhang> Guest71341, you need to enable the partner repository, then refresh the packages available
[09:09] <motaka2> does anyone knows a good book a bout networking using linux or ubuntu ?
[09:10] <prashant_123456> theadmin, sorry i got disconnected
[09:11] <theadmin> prashant_123456: Ah. Happens. Basically I said that I don't know much about optical media cause I haven't used it in age.
[09:11] <theadmin> ages.*
[09:12] <samuraibsd> Anyone have recommendations for a good syntax highlighting text editor that isn't Kate?
[09:12] <prashant_123456> theadmin, ok thanks for the support and can u tell me where can i find my burner cause i need to use a burner i think /dev/sr0 ?
[09:13] <theadmin> prashant_123456: Typically yes, /dev/sr0 would be your first CD/DVD drive
[09:13] <theadmin> prashant_123456: If you have only one, this is it
[09:13] <prashant_123456> theadmin, yes i have only one
[09:13] <prashant_123456> theadmin, thanks
[09:13] <bazhang> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/saucy/man1/mkudffs.1.html  prashant_123456 you might consider this
[09:13] <bazhang> found in udftools
[09:14] <bazhang> !info udftools | prashant_123456
[09:15] <chare> what is planned for the next release of ubuntu
[09:16] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[09:16] <bazhang> chare, #ubuntu+1 for discussion of 14.04
[09:16] <prashant_123456> bazhang, cant get you point
[09:17] <Wiz_KeeD> a simple noob question...i just installed windows and left 160 gb of unpartitioned space...I made a usb stick with ubuntu and chose install ubuntu next to windows...on boot it entered windows automatically, no grub...
[09:17] <Wiz_KeeD> why would that happen?
[09:17] <bazhang> prashant_123456, you said you want to write multisession/udf
[09:17] <prashant_123456> bazhang, yes and how to do it ?
[09:18] <bazhang> prashant_123456, did you not read the man pages I linked to you for udftools?
[09:18] <MarGul> is there any application I can run to test my graphic card prestanda? Every time I use flashplayer my computer starts to sound like crazy and its not the CPU. Its at like 10-20%. Soon as I shutdown flash player my computer stop making sounds
[09:19] <prashant_123456> !info udftools / bazhang
[09:19] <prashant_123456> bazhang,  ?
[09:19] <benishor> theadmin: checkinstall will build a binary deb I hope?
[09:19] <benishor> theadmin: as in deb containing binary distribution
[09:19] <prashant_123456> bazhang, ok got it
[09:19] <bazhang> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/saucy/man1/mkudffs.1.html     <------ prashant_123456
[09:20] <prashant_123456> bazhang, i forgot to put whitespace in between ! and info
[09:20] <theadmin> benishor: Yeah, of course
[09:20] <benishor> theadmin: thank you again!
[09:21] <Wiz_KeeD> anyy1?
[09:21] <prashant_123456> having bug in grwoisofs
[09:21] <prashant_123456> bazhang,
[09:29] <sabs> kdm or lightdm ?
[09:29] <sabs> help pleas ?
[09:29] <newb> #rubyonrails
[09:29] <sabs> kdm or lightdm ?
[09:30] <sabs> i need help ?
[09:33] <[[thufir]]> I installed junior-games-card but can't seem to launch it...no man page..?
[09:34] <bazhang> [[thufir]], using alt f2?
[09:35] <[[thufir]]> not listed
[09:36] <[[thufir]]> bazhang: "nothing that matches your search"
[09:36] <[[thufir]]> ditto for junior-math
[09:36] <bazhang> [[thufir]], alt f2 is the run dialog
[09:36] <amireldor> After removing a PPA updated package, how do I revert to the default repositories version?
[09:37] <bazhang> amireldor, with ppa-purge
[09:37] <Wiz_KeeD> guys do you have any suggestions on what went wrong installing ubuntu? grub did not start
[09:37] <bazhang> !ppa-purge | amireldor
[09:37] <bazhang> Wiz_KeeD, did you hold shift at boot?
[09:37] <amireldor> bazhang, exactly what I needed. Thanks!
[09:37] <Wiz_KeeD> hold shift? :O
[09:37] <Wiz_KeeD> why should I do that?
[09:38] <Wiz_KeeD> on my other laptop it work no problem
[09:38] <bazhang> Wiz_KeeD, yes, thats how to get to grub
[09:38] <bazhang> Wiz_KeeD, is this a wubi install? or an actual dual boot
[09:39] <Wiz_KeeD> dual boot, wubi = eeek
[09:39] <Wiz_KeeD> The other laptop grub just started automatically :(
[09:39] <Wiz_KeeD> do I have to hold shift EVERY time?
[09:39] <bazhang> Wiz_KeeD, and ubuntu was installed last?
[09:39] <[[thufir]]> bazhang: yes, it's the run dialog.  however, it doesn't lauch junior-math
[09:39] <bazhang> Wiz_KeeD, you can adjust the timeout to make it appear everytime if you wish
[09:40] <ResQue> i am trying to make the ubuntu iso smaller, what package could i uninstall that are quite large?
[09:40] <bazhang> [[thufir]], so try in the terminal, using tab complete   junior- <tab>
[09:40] <bazhang> ResQue, try the other way, with the  m ini iso?
[09:40] <bazhang> !mini | ResQue
[09:41] <aisyah> hello. my problem still not solve. please help
[09:41] <bazhang> aisyah, what issue
[09:42] <ResQue> bazhang: im looking to reduce the size of the live iso cd, and add a few custom packages
[09:42] <Wiz_KeeD> bazhang, aahhh didn't know that
[09:42] <aisyah> bazhang: i am stuck on login screen. i have 2 admin account. i can't enter both. but i managed to enter on guest account
[09:42] <aisyah> bazhang: is this caused the xorg.conf?
[09:42] <Wiz_KeeD> So i just leave the unpartitioned space left after windows install and install ubuntu with the firsst option next to windows yes?
[09:43] <bazhang> ResQue, well thats certainly possible, doing a remaster of the live cd, but more work than building a custom iso starting with the mini
[09:43] <aisyah> bazhang: i checked, i got 3 xorg.conf file.. 1)xorg.conf 2)xorg.conf.backup 3)xorg.conf.nvidia-xconfig-original
[09:43] <ResQue> bazhang: ok, i have a copy of the minicd already, do you have any links or documention on the next setp
[09:43] <ResQue> bazhang: next stephan
[09:43] <aisyah> bazhang: should i replace the xorg.conf with xorg.conf.backup?
[09:44] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD   ResQue this?
[09:44] <ResQue> bazhang: i mean "the next step"
[09:44] <bazhang> ResQue, or for remaster
[09:44] <aisyah> bazhang: can you help me on this?
[09:44] <Isualin> aisyah how do you get stuck on login screen? black screen?
[09:45] <bazhang> aisyah, you seem to have several issues, why not try to solve them one at a time
[09:45] <aisyah> not blackscren
[09:45] <ResQue> bazhang: i like your idea about starting form scratch with the mini version, but i am unsure on how to create a custom live cd using this method
[09:46] <bazhang> ResQue, something like mkisofs ? is that what you had in mind? add custome packages to mini, then create a bootable installer iso?
[09:46] <aisyah> Isualin: i can't enter admin account (2 admin account) eventhough the password is correct but i manged to enter the guest account
[09:46] <bazhang> -e
[09:46] <aisyah> bazhang: how?
[09:47] <ResQue> bazhang: i dont need the installer, just the live cd/dvd version.
[09:48] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> !help
[09:49] <aisyah> Isualin: bazhang : any solution?
[09:49] <pulsar78> how do i save my config in grub ? its not mentioned
[09:49] <bazhang> pulsar78, update-grub
[09:50] <oly_> hi
[09:50] <bazhang> aisyah, please list your issue on a single line. it's very hard to know what it is spaced out like that
[09:50] <pulsar78> bazhang: im booted into grub and editing
[09:51] <OmnIcK> is there any doc how to get dhcp6 client working on ubuntu 10.04 server?
[09:51] <Wiz_KeeD> bazhang, Unable to find mediumcontaining a live file system
[09:51] <Wiz_KeeD> blah...
[09:51] <Wiz_KeeD> what happened?
[09:51] <oly_> blah..
[09:52] <haha> how strange it is..i always feel audacious 's voice not clean
[09:53] <aisyah> bazhang: i just updated nvidia driver from 304 to 319. now, the issue is i cannot enter to my admin account. fyi, i have 2 admin accounts. i cannot enter both but i managed enter to guest account.
[09:55] <bazhang> aisyah, where did you get these driver updates from? why 2 admin accounts? what version of Ubuntu?
[09:57] <aisyah> bazhang: thats proprietary driver. ubuntu 12.04
[09:57] <aisyah> bazhang: *from proprietary driver
[09:57] <bazhang> why 2 admin accounts?   aisyah
[09:58] <aisyah> because this is shared computer
[09:58] <ruxpin> I have some sort of conflicting package somewhere that prevents me to install libaprutil1-dev package. any ideas how to solve this? http://pastie.org/8535191
[09:58] <aisyah> bazhang: because this is shared computer
[09:58] <bazhang> ruxpin, you have some PPA installed there?
[09:59] <ruxpin> bazhang: security updates, nothing more exotic than that
[10:01] <ruxpin> ubuntu 12.04
[10:02] <mac_12> has anyone installed puppetlabs on ubuntu 13.10?
[10:05] <Styles> Hey everyone! I hooked up an HDMI cable, put my browser on the other monitor and put a flash video in full screen and it keeps putting it on my laptop monitor, not the TV.
[10:05] <Styles> Any clue what causes this behavior?
[10:16] <Wiz_KeeD> Guys do I need to format the stick as ntfs or something or does the linux pendrive thing do it all?
[10:17] <bazhang> Wiz_KeeD, unetbootin or the like will do it for you
[10:18] <Wiz_KeeD> bazhang, it is done but it's still fat32
[10:19] <Wiz_KeeD> it reads it boots, but gives that stupid error :(
[10:19] <bazhang> Wiz_KeeD, did you md5 the iso prior to "burning"
[10:20] <Wiz_KeeD> no
[10:20] <Wiz_KeeD> downloaded a new one though
[10:20] <Wiz_KeeD> how do you do that?
[10:20] <bazhang> !md5
[10:20] <bazhang> Wiz_KeeD, ^
[10:21] <Wiz_KeeD> thanks man!
[10:22] <c_nick> \join #androidev
[10:22] <Wiz_KeeD> same error, new download WTFF
[10:22] <Wiz_KeeD> brb
[10:24] <PatrickDickey> What error are you getting Wiz_KeeD?
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> how can i see progress of cloning an usb device to another with dd?
[10:31] <PatrickDickey> lotuspsychje: You can use a kill command. I'll find the exact syntax of it in a couple of seconds.
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> PatrickDickey: kill command to see progress of dd?
[10:33] <PatrickDickey> kill -s USR1 PID for the dd process.
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> PatrickDickey: it will not actually kill it right?
[10:33] <PatrickDickey> Yep. using that specific command just forces it to display where it's at.
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> nice
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> lemme try
[10:33] <PatrickDickey> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/learn-the-dd-command-362506/
[10:35] <bekks> dd_resue/ddrescue provide a progress display, too.
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> !info ddrescue
[10:37] <ahmet_> Can you help me with VPN
[10:39] <ahmet_> Can you help me with VPN
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> !vpn | ahmet_
[10:42] <ahmet_> in both vpn and both want to use my own internet
[10:42] <Sven_vB> is there a way to get FTPS support in thunar in ubuntu precise? ftp://.../ as location (Ctrl+L) works well, but with ftps://, the open button fades grey.
[10:45] <DarthEaron> hi so i im in 13.04 and i know that my touchpad is capable of 4 finger gestures and i cant get touchgegg to see more than two fingers. any help?
[10:45] <DarthEaron> i have fallowed this guide to setup touchegg http://askubuntu.com/questions/252260/what-should-i-do-to-run-after-i-have-successfully-installed-touchegg-on-ubuntu-1
[10:51] <ahmet_> Do not have anyone to help me with VPN
[10:51] <cgt> !patience | ahmet_
[10:54] <PatrickDickey> ahmet_: What exactly are you trying to do with VPN, which VPN are you using, and what errors or messages are you getting?
[10:56] <jomoza> hey jdownloder give porblems in ubuntu 13.04
[10:57] <Sven_vB> jomoza, which error?
[11:08] <jayar> after install of 13.10, i chose secure on boot thing where i have to enter passphrase everytime i boot, how do i toggle that? cuz i dont need it all the time.
[11:11] <trijntje> jayar: secure on boot? Did you choose enrypted home or full disk encryption
[11:11] <trijntje> when do you need to put in your password, during boot, during login, in the bios?
[11:12] <rhumbot> hi all, i was wondering if someone could help me setting up google tasks using thunderbird? events work fine, but i cant add tasks?
[11:13] <jayar> during boot
[11:13] <Kroach> what would happen if I shut down Ubuntu while apt-get is running? would it interrupt it gracefully, wait for it to finish, or just ignore it and break the installation?
[11:14] <trijntje> jayar: in the bios or in ubuntu? Basically, how does the screen look when it asks the password?
[11:14] <sifat> how to hack a fb account???
[11:14] <Kroach> sifat: not the right channel
[11:14] <jayar> ubuntu... i could just turn off the bios one
[11:14] <trijntje> sifat: thats illegal, please go away
[11:14] <jayar> its right when the gnome logo pops up
[11:15] <jayar> after bios screen
[11:15] <sifat> only for learning purpose man :P
[11:15] <trijntje> jayar: that means you choose to encrypt your whole ubuntu during install, I'm not sure there's an easy way to disable that
[11:15] <dv_> "for learning purpose"
[11:15] <dv_> ha
[11:15] <jayar> lol classic
[11:16] <jayar> ah dang
[11:16] <cgt> !offtopic | sifat
[11:16] <dv_> how do I hack bitcoin to get 6000 btc ? only for learning purpose :P
[11:17] <sifat> does anyone know how to use dnsenum in backtrack??
[11:17] <trijntje> jayar: maybe you could set the password to empty or something, but that way you loose all security you got with encryption in the first place
[11:17] <jayar> well its a fresh install so maybe i'll just go through and re-do it
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> sifat: the people in the backtrack channel, maybe
[11:18] <sifat> how can i go to the backtrack channel? i am new here
[11:18] <trijntje> jayar: if you dont want the added security of encryption, thats probably the easiest. Just dont forget that if you do that, anyone who can touch your pc can get all your personal files
[11:18] <Stanley00> sifat: type /join #backtrack
[11:18] <sifat> thnx u man...
[11:18] <jayar> but i still have admin password
[11:18] <jayar> and home dir encryption
[11:20] <trijntje> jayar: home dir encryption will help, thats true. However, you can also encrypt the whole install, and set ubuntu to automatically log you in. Than you only have to type in you password once, but you get the increased security of full disk encryption
[11:20] <jayar> oh yea how do i do that
[11:21] <trijntje> jayar: during install, check the box 'don't as my password to login' or something similar
[11:22] <jayar> kk thnx
[11:34] <irgendwer4711> hi, I have some problem with my own kernel, the usb-mouse acts very laggy. which kernel-module could be missing?
[11:37] <sudi> hey is there a way to intercept file reads and redirect the reading to a programm maybe?
[11:37] <myhappy> hello vevryone
[11:38] <myhappy> hello everybody
[11:38] <irgendwer4711> hello
[11:41] <tvillerealest> Im trying to install an AVD and i have the sdk file downloading i just dont know what to do next. can anyone help me out?
[11:46] <Stanley00> tvillerealest: did you look at the document at homepage and README/INSTALL in downloaded files?
[11:47] <tvillerealest> Stanley00: no i didnt, where is it again?
[11:48] <Stanley00> tvillerealest: look first at *where you download the AVD*
[11:48] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, here?
[11:55] <jayar> can i install the ndiswan drivers or a compatible broadcom wireless card driver from the usblive stick or do i have to plug in and dl them? cuz this wireless card is recognized in lspci but not installed/working
[11:56] <kansai> hi folks , where can i find crack file for Autodesk 3ds Max 2012 64-bit - English ?
[11:56] <Ben64> not legal and not on topic
[11:56] <OerHeks> !piracy | kansai
[11:56] <kansai> are u bot ?
[11:57] <trijntje> jayar: you will need to plug in a cable to download the drivers
[11:57] <jayar> k
[11:57] <jayar> thnx again :)
[11:57] <jayar> i'll be all set soon and my wife can leave my good laptop alone.
[11:57] <cfhowlett> kansai, doesn't matter if he's a bot - but he's not.  and piracy/cracking/etc is not supported here.
[11:58] <kansai> ok
[11:59] <flaburgan> hi guys
[11:59] <flaburgan> just installed the 13.10
[11:59] <flaburgan> x64
[11:59] <flaburgan> and i'm not able to boot
[11:59] <flaburgan> purple screen without any message
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> Flaburgan: what gpu do you use?
[11:59] <flaburgan> I tried to install 3 times, same result
[12:00] <flaburgan> ActionParsnip, I don't think I have a gpu, I'm on Asus UX31E
[12:00] <flaburgan> it's an ultrabook
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> is that arm?
[12:00] <flaburgan> so an intel chipset or something like that
[12:00] <flaburgan> no, i5
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Flaburgan: why would anything be different between the reinstalls? You are taking the databoff then putting exactly the same data in the same place. How is that a fix?
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Flaburgan: think about it.....
[12:01] <flaburgan> ActionParsnip, because I tried with the update from internet the second time, and with another image the 3rd time
[12:01] <flaburgan> I checked the checksum, the image is okay
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Flaburgan: same thing...same data same place
[12:03] <Potas> What's a faster bit torrent client? I am using Transmission at the moment , but I think it should have downloaded far earlier than before.
[12:03] <flaburgan> ActionParsnip, anyway, how can you have something displayed during the boot, to know where the problem come from
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> flaburgan: try ctrl-alt F1
[12:03] <flaburgan> how can I, sorry
[12:03] <cfhowlett> Potas, client really doesn't matter so much as the health/seeding of the torrent
[12:03] <flaburgan> MonkeyDust, tried, I got nothing
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> Flburgan: did you try the boot option: nomodeset
[12:04] <flaburgan> I think I'm going to boot on the livecd and check the log from that
[12:04] <OerHeks> 100+ pages about zenbook http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1865577
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> Potas: torrent speed is dictated by the uploaders, not the client
[12:04] <flaburgan> ActionParsnip, you mean, in grub, edit with e and add nomodset?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | flaburgan
[12:05] <flaburgan> ActionParsnip,
[12:05] <flaburgan> thx
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Np :)
[12:05] <flaburgan> OerHeks, 12.04, 12.10 and 13.04 run correctly...
[12:05] <flaburgan> first time I get this problem
[12:06] <flaburgan> but I'll have a look, thank you
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Flaburgan: 12.04 is supported long after 13.10 is EOL
[12:06] <flaburgan> ActionParsnip, I know, but I'd like the last version :)
[12:06] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip, I sense he LIKES upgrading ...
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Flaburgan: why the latest? You can also upgrade direct to 14.04 in April next year as it is LTS to LTS upgrade
[12:08] <flaburgan> I tried to choose the "safe mode" boot in grub (not sure it's called like that, I have it in french)
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> I myswewwlf 'returned' to 12.04
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> myself*
[12:08] <flaburgan> and the boot is stuck on "Switching to clocksource tsc"
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> Flaburgan: try nomodeset may help. Be sure you have the latest bios too if your system uses one
[12:11] <matachi> how do I stop a daemon properly?
[12:11] <ikonia> depends on the daemon
[12:11] <cfhowlett> matachi, silver bullets or decapitation
[12:11] <cfhowlett> ?
[12:11] <ikonia> and how it was started
[12:12] <matachi> ikonia: okey, I'm trying to figure out how to stop Docker. I'm starting it with `sudo docker -d &`
[12:12] <ikonia> matachi: so is it forking or running in the foreground of where you started it
[12:13] <ikonia> I'm assuming -d is to daemonise it
[12:13] <matachi> ikonia: yeah, -d = "Enable daemon mode"
[12:14] <ikonia> matachi: so you'll need to kill it with a kill signal
[12:14] <ikonia> matachi: find the process ID and give it a "kill" signal
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Matachi: killall docker
[12:15] <ikonia> if you're just playing with it, dont give it the -d option, then when you are done, just hit ctrl+c
[12:15] <OerHeks> matachi, sudo docker kill <jb>  # http://docs.docker.io/en/latest/use/basics/
[12:15] <ikonia> OerHeks: what's the jb input ?
[12:16] <OerHeks> sorry, correction, <jb> = <job>
[12:16] <ikonia> ah, so the pid
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Oerheks: oh yeah. Process will be root owned
[12:17] <matachi> OerHeks: `docker kill` is for killing containers running in docker
[12:19] <OerHeks> matachi, does the deamon still run when empty?
[12:19] <matachi> ikonia: I'm finding docker's pid with `ps -A | grep docker` but when I do `sudo kill 3772` it spawns with a new pid, in this case 3949
[12:19] <ddssc> it is said on the interwebs that Vodafone mobile connect exists for linux.  anyone knows which repo , version etc?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Mataci: does it need to be daemonized with sudo? Can the user not run it?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> !find vodaphone
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Gah
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> Ddsc: doesnt network manager handle that....
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> Ddssc: http://developer.vodafone.com/labs/opensource/linux-connection-manager/operating-systems/ubuntu-linux-setup/
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> Ddssc: how long did that take me to find?
[12:23] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip, : 98.1235 seconds, Captain
[12:23] <flaburgan> looks like I have this problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/287206/ubuntu-13-04-wont-boot-after-grub
[12:23] <flaburgan> but clocksource doesn't help
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> Flaburgan: is the bios time set right too?
[12:27] <flaburgan> ActionParsnip, I check
[12:28] <flaburgan> ActionParsnip, it was one hour late because of the changetime
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Flaburgan: may help. Time is important in computers. A lot
[12:29] <flaburgan> I still have a black screen with a white blinking underscore
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> Flaburgan: tried the nomodeset option yet?
[12:30] <younes> hi
[12:31] <cfhowlett> younes, greetings
[12:31] <flaburgan> ActionParsnip, yeah, but it doesn't help
[12:31] <flaburgan> tried the clocksource= option too
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Flaburhan: hmmm :(
[12:31] <flaburgan> as indicated in the askubuntu link I posted
[12:31] <flaburgan> I'm going to check if I can update my bios
[12:31] <flaburgan> I did it one year ago, maybe there is a new version
[12:32] <toni54321> hi all i install ubuntu in dual boot with windows 7. i have a problem ith my nvidia grafic cad and cant star ubuntu.
[12:32] <toni54321> hi all i install ubuntu in dual boot with windows 7. i have a problem ith my nvidia grafic cad and cant start ubuntu.
[12:32] <toni54321> hi all i install ubuntu in dual boot with windows 7. i have a problem ith my nvidia grafic card and cant start ubuntu.
[12:33] <cfhowlett> !patience|toni54321,
[12:33] <flaburgan> already the most recent :(
[12:34] <chenshibing> 1
[12:36] <ddssc> ActionParsnip: thanks, however Im getting a dependency problems and errors. any way to automatically install those with dpkg?
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Ddssc: sure find the debs to satisfy deps
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> Toni54321: does the system also have an Intel GPU?
[12:39] <ddssc> ActionParsnip: yes
[12:39] <ddssc> no
[12:39] <toni54321> amd
[12:39] <ddssc> read CPU... sec..
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Toni54321: so you have a radeon gpu and an nvidia gpu in the system?
[12:41] <ddssc> ActionParsnip:  they're not in the standard libs.. cant use apt-get install as per docu... I never understood why they dont release tar that contains all damn dependencies...
[12:41] <ddssc> standard repos that is..
[12:41] <toni54321> yes. i star ubuntu in no splash mode but now cwnt do this agan, apear one black scre "givap waiting....."
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Ddssc: then you will need to go hunting for deps manually
[12:42] <ddssc> ah fucking hell....
[12:43] <ddssc> so I'll have to search every dependency manually? and dependencies of those dependencies?
[12:43] <ddssc> .....
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Ddssc: doesnt network manager manage it for you....
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Ddssc: it will just be picked up as a serial modem which are as old as the hills
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Ddssc: why is the extra app needed?
[12:46] <flaburgan> can I install something on my local installation from my liveusb?
[12:47] <flaburgan> I want to use the upubuntu.com script to try the last kernel
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Flaburgan: yes, you can use the install media as a package source
[12:47] <ddssc> ActionParsnip: dunno... I followe the docu on the page you found
[12:47] <flaburgan> but if I do that from the liveusb I don't think it install it on my harddrive
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Flaburgan: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/11/linux-kernel-3-12-released-install-ubuntu-or-linux-mint/
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Ddssc: id remove the app then run: lsusb ,use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[12:49] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[12:50] <philinux> how do I  get hddtemp /dev/sda to work without sudo
[12:50] <philinux> easily
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> Philinux: could setuid on the hddtemp binary?
[12:52] <ddssc> ActionParsnip: wut
[12:52] <philinux> ActionParsnip;~ you mean chown /usr/bin/hddtemp
[12:53] <philinux> ActionParsnip;~ is it hddtemp or the /dev/sda which needs sudo
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Philinux: no, use the web to find out about setuid :-)
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Philinux: hddtemp
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> Ddssc: with the device inserted run: lsusb ,you will see an ID for the device on one of the lunes. Use it to find guides
[12:56] <philinux> ActionParsnip;~ seems it's  the /dev/sda bit causing issue. even after sudo chmod u+s /usr/sbin/hddtemp
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> Philinux: well, users can now run hddtempband it will run as root without sudo
[12:58] <philinux> ActionParsnip;~ hddtempband?
[12:58] <llutz> philinux: after you're done, google "Why Setuid Is Bad" and rethink it. give the user limited sudo access to hddtemp with NOPASSWD option and create an alias to avoid the "sudo"
[12:59] <llutz> *avoid the need to type "sudo"
[12:59] <philinux> ActionParsnip;~ llutz  what gets me is Disks can see the hd temp without sudo. where's it getting it from
[12:59] <philinux> smart i guess
[13:06] <chenshibing> 没人么，我用的是单机版，难道
[13:06] <cfhowlett> !cn|chenshibing,
[13:06] <chenshibing>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[13:07] <money> i use ubunt new version
[13:07] <chenshibing> :)
[13:09] <money> is the ibm thinkpad t60 notebook good with ati graphic card?
[13:10] <money> i bought it on ebay
[13:10] <money> and have ubuntu on it
[13:10] <ikonia> the guys in ##hardware can discuss good/bad hardware
[13:11] <money> is there something like the old skypecast on ubuntu
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> Money: there is Skype.....
[13:11] <philinux> ActionParsnip;~ I think I might add /urs/bin/hddtemp to the sudoers file
[13:11] <money> i have skype
[13:12] <money> it works now
[13:12] <money> i hope so
[13:12] <money> is ubuntu better than windows 7 ?
[13:13] <Hund> money: Its personal preferences.
[13:13] <cfhowlett> money, this is not the opinion/poll channel. we can help with tech support.  otherwise: @ubuntu-fftopic
[13:13] <cfhowlett> money, this is not the opinion/poll channel. we can help with tech support.  otherwise: @ubuntu-offtopic
[13:14] <money> how can i learn hacking with ubuntu?
[13:14] <money> im a newbie
[13:14] <cfhowlett> money, no
[13:14] <Hund> money: Google
[13:14] <bekks> money: first, leran how to use ubuuntu, as a newbie.
[13:14] <money> i like ubuntu
[13:14] <money> its stable
[13:15] <money> if it works on a machine
[13:16] <money> i love my ubuntu notebook
[13:16] <ikonia> you've said that.....
[13:16] <zhpeng> stable.....
[13:16] <zhpeng> No ...
[13:17] <money> what can i do with my ubuntu?
[13:17] <ikonia> money: https://help.ubuntu.com
[13:17] <cfhowlett> !manual|money,
[13:17] <ikonia> money: that will give you an introduction on how to use ubuntu
[13:17] <cfhowlett> money, read more.  IRC less.
[13:18] <OerHeks> money, you can start a Poll with Ubuntu :-D
[13:19] <money> i love internet
[13:19] <money> im a internet addict
[13:19] <ikonia> thats not something we are really interested in, in this channel
[13:19] <money> sorry
[13:19] <ikonia> money: if you want to chage socially try the #defocus channel
[13:19] <money> what is defocus
[13:19] <ikonia> "chat" socially sorry
[13:20] <ikonia> money: it's a channel for social chatter, "/join #defocus" and you can chat socially
[13:21] <money> how can i hack wifi wep on my ubuntu
[13:21] <ikonia> money: you don't
[13:21] <ikonia> and you don't ask here either
[13:21] <cfhowlett> !hack|money,
[13:21] <cfhowlett> !hacking|money,
[13:21] <bekks> money: by askin the administrator for the password, kindly.
[13:22] <cfhowlett> money, wep?  people still use that?
[13:22] <money> some use wep sometimes
[13:22] <cfhowlett> money, can't help you and you have to be 21 to hack and use a different IRC channel.
[13:22] <gordonjcp> people with Nintendo DSes ;-)
[13:22] <money> i have kismet and aircrack-ng but dont know how to use it
[13:22] <gordonjcp> cfhowlett: !language
[13:23] <gordonjcp> cfhowlett: don't misuse the word "hack" like that
[13:23] <kostkon> money, read their manuals then
[13:23] <cfhowlett> gordonjcp, oh, OK.  (had to read the factoid)
[13:23] <bekks> cfhowlett: yeah, you have to be 21 to be judged as an adult ;)
[13:24] <gordonjcp> cfhowlett: :-p
[13:24] <gordonjcp> cfhowlett: I'm totally offended by that, you know
[13:24] <cfhowlett> gordonjcp, mea culpa
[13:24] <cfhowlett> X 3
[13:29] <Robertica95> hello
[13:29] <cfhowlett> Robertica95, greetings
[13:29] <Robertica95> i have some problems with ubuntu,can someone help me?
[13:29] <cfhowlett> !ask|Robertica95, ask and give details
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> Robertica95: let's hear it
[13:30] <money> any good games i can play on ubuntu?
[13:30] <Robertica95> when i type in terminal sudo wget http://playonlinux.botux.net/playonlinux_hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/playonlinux.list  i get wget: unable to resolve host address `playonlinux.botux.net'
[13:30] <cfhowlett> money, open the software center.  look for games
[13:30] <elinsky> LIST
[13:30] <ikonia> elinsky: no wares here
[13:31] <Robertica95> so what i can do?
[13:31] <ikonia> Robertica95: ask bottux.net to fix their dns
[13:31] <ikonia> Robertica95: don't use 3rd party repos that are badly maintained
[13:31] <OerHeks> Robertica95, see the part "Hardy" that is old
[13:32] <Robertica95> so i cant do anything?
[13:32] <ikonia> Robertica95: what do you want to happen ?
[13:32] <cfhowlett> Robertica95, hardy is a life - supported ended ubuntu.  if you're running hardy - upgrade.
[13:32] <Robertica95> i want to install a game and play it
[13:33] <ikonia> Robertica95: ok, so you need to talk to the repo owner and ask him to fix his dns
[13:35] <Robertica95> i hear a program which is named Wine,i can play games with it?
[13:35] <cfhowlett> Robertica95, SOME games ...
[13:35] <cfhowlett> !wine
[13:35] <cfhowlett> !steam|Robertica95,
[13:35] <ikonia> Robertica95: the truth is - want to play windows game sucessfully, use windows
[13:35] <Robertica95> i want to play Conquer Online 2.0,will work?
[13:35] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PlayOnLinux
[13:36] <janjanjanjan> hi! can you please give me a tips what i need to do for best and optimal performace for SSD? thank you!
[13:36] <ikonia> janjanjanjan: just install ubuntu on it, it will perform just fine
[13:36] <MAF> Hello
[13:37] <wepslame> Is there a way to disable my internal Wi-Fi adapter on my laptop, and use the USB adapter instead?
[13:37] <ikonia> wepslame: most laptops have a kill switch or a bios setting to disable it
[13:37] <janjanjanjan> ikonia: i have xubuntu... is there any difference? i have created cron job for trim for now
[13:37] <ikonia> janjanjanjan: no
[13:37] <janjanjanjan> ikonia: thank you very much :)
[13:38] <MAF> is there any body who knows about RTMP source to HLS?
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> what's rtpm and hls?
[13:38] <wepslame> Is there a way to disable my internal Wi-Fi adapter on my laptop, and use the USB adapter instead? When i disable my internal card with the kill-switch i can't get signals from my external (USB) Wireless Card. Any ideas to help me? Thanks in advance.
[13:38] <cfhowlett> !patience|wepslame,
[13:39] <ikonia> wepslame: use the kill switch - it is the correct way, it will not change your usb settings
[13:39] <MAF> RTMP is a protocol for live streaming
[13:39] <ikonia> wepslame: instead of just repeating the quesiton, why not respond to the comments/advice I gave you
[13:39] <Robertica95> about playonlinux,if i install from software center is same with command in terminal?
[13:39] <wepslame> ikonia: I repeated the question, and i've extended it and explained the problem better. Sorry if it was considered as spam.
[13:39] <cfhowlett> Robertica95, ye sit is
[13:40] <ikonia> Robertica95: yes
[13:40] <Robertica95> ok
[13:40] <Robertica95> thanks
[13:40] <ikonia> wepslame: the kill switch will not have any impact on your usb adapter
[13:40] <Robertica95> ubuntu is awesome :D
[13:40] <MAF> i want good tutorial for that
[13:40] <MAF> any idea?
[13:40] <wepslame> ikonia: I know it should not have any impact, but it's not like that :/
[13:40] <ikonia> wepslame: it really is like that
[13:40] <wepslame> ikonia: I am using the kill switch, and then my USB adapter won't get signals from the nearby AP's
[13:40] <ikonia> wepslame: its more likley your usb card is just not configured
[13:41] <wepslame> But when the kill switch is turned on, i get signals with the USB Wi-Fi adapter
[13:41] <MAF> Hello
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> MAF: keep it in the channel please
[13:41] <wepslame> and from the internal card too, simultaneously
[13:41] <ikonia> wepslame: I suspect you don't, how are you checking this ?
[13:41] <cfhowlett> MAF,  yes we see you.
[13:41] <wepslame> ikonia: With the built-in Wi-Fi connections manager
[13:42] <MAF> Thanks
[13:42] <wepslame> The USB card is *greyed out*
[13:42] <ikonia> wepslame: as in the tool in the top right hand corner ?
[13:42] <BluesKaj>  
[13:43] <OerHeks> MAF ffplay should play, i just tested the last answer > http://askubuntu.com/questions/8947/player-for-rtmp-protocol
[13:43] <wepslame> ikonia: Indeed
[13:43] <ikonia> wepslame: so I suspect it's actually just confused with the two cards in there,
[13:44] <ikonia> wepslame: hit the kill switch and do an iwconfig in the terminal,
[13:44] <ikonia> wepslame: (hit the kill switch so it's disabled)
[13:44] <wepslame> just a second
[13:44] <MAF> OerHeks: my problem isn't this!
[13:45] <MAF> OerHeks: i can't see my streaming on iDevices and i need transcode RTMP to HLS.
[13:46] <wepslame> ikonia: Done that
[13:46] <ikonia> wepslame: does it report a card with any wireless extensions
[13:47] <wepslame> I can't do that, because i won't be able to communicate with the outside world :P
[13:47] <ikonia> wepslame: so when you said "done that" - you've actually "not done that"
[13:48] <wepslame> ikonia: Why would i lie...i've done that, but realized that i won't be able to be connected so i turned on the internal card again, to write to you...
[13:48] <ikonia> so give me the answer to the question
[13:48] <ikonia> wepslame: "with the kill switch enabled, does it report any cards with wireless extensions"
[13:49] <knightshade> hello
[13:49] <ikonia> wepslame: as your connection didn't drop - it suggests you didn't actually kill the wireless
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> MAF: is this useful https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=99572
[13:49] <wepslame> ikonia: It dropped, and i turned it on again
[13:49] <Robertica95> i have another question
[13:49] <Robertica95> my pc is amd
[13:49] <pulsar78> trying to update kernel, but uname -r still shows old one (i've run update-grub)
[13:49] <cfhowlett> Robertica95, ask
[13:49] <ikonia> wepslame: yes, but your connection didn't drop from this channel
[13:49] <Robertica95> how i can install amd drivers?
[13:49] <ikonia> wepslame: suggesting your card didn't actually drop
[13:50] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> Hi, how do i change the process priority of a given process without quitting the process, so it would continue its work ?
[13:50] <ikonia> wepslame: either way, plus run the test I suggested, as your connectio isn't dropping, I'd suggest, shutting down the laptop, hitting the kill switch, and then checking with iwconfig
[13:50] <MAF> MonkeyDust: NO! because i don't have HLS now!
[13:50] <MAF> MonkeyDust: i just have RTMP Streaming!
[13:51] <wepslame> ikonia: Shutting it down == power off ?
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> MAF: i found two other rtmp/hls links, they both refer to nginx
[13:51] <Robertica95> cfohwleft
[13:51] <ikonia> wepslame: corrrect
[13:51] <Robertica95> i ask again,how i can install amd drivers?
[13:51] <cfhowlett> Robertica95, yes you can install amd and please be patient
[13:51] <cfhowlett> Robertica95, I'm behind the great firewall and my internet is throttled ...
[13:52] <MAF> MonkeyDust: plz send it to me
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> MAF: http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com/msg13832.html
[13:52] <Robertica95> cfhowleft,im patient,i wait for your answer
[13:52] <wepslame> ikonia: What's CTCP
[13:52] <wepslame> ?
[13:52] <wepslame> :)
[13:53] <ikonia> wepslame: it was me looking at what irc client you where using
[13:53] <ikonia> wepslame: as your connection didn't drop I wanted to check how you where connected
[13:53] <wepslame> ikonia: I see, hang on, i want to send a pastebin output from the terminal
[13:53] <ikonia> wepslame: why, you've not done the test yet
[13:53] <ikonia> wepslame: what is there to show me until you've done the test
[13:54] <cfhowlett> Robertica95, my connection is blocking out.  ask in channel again - someone will know
[13:54] <Robertica95> okay
[13:54] <Robertica95> now i go to eat,i come back in 10-15 min
[13:55] <knightshade> Lucid_Lynx_LTS, you can use "nice" in terminal to change the priority or use a task manager gui tool
[13:56] <rhumbot> hi all, im still looking for a solution to synchronize a local calendar and tasks with google calendar - to synchronize it with my android phone. using thunderbird, i cant get the tasks to synchronize ...   is there a better solution?
[13:56] <rhumbot> a different client or maybe another calendar besides google that i can still synchronize with an android phone?
[13:56] <pulsar78> i need help updating a kernel, im stuck
[13:58] <ZIPY> rhumbot: make your own calendar with owncloud.org :)
[13:59] <wepslame> ikonia: I've done the test, iwconfig's output was the same as before
[13:59] <ikonia> wepslame: which is....
[14:01] <ikonia> wepslame: ah, you've just sent it to me in a private message (in future please use a pastebin, it's easier to share info)
[14:01] <ikonia> wepslame: ok - as you can see from that output, there are TWO cards with wireless extensions that are not configured,
[14:02] <ikonia> wepslame: that suggest either a.) the kill switch isn't working b.) you didn't do the test right
[14:02] <wepslame> ikonia: I wanted to use pastebin, but thought this would be faster
[14:03] <wepslame> ikonia: Which part says that they are not configured?
[14:04] <pratz> Hello guys
[14:04] <BALTA00> hi
[14:04] <Anden> hi
[14:04] <wepslame> ikonia: ?
[14:05] <ikonia> wepslame: "not associated to any access point"
[14:05] <pratz> I just installed xubuntu 12.04 , but when I log in it always takes xfce session instead of xubuntu session even though xubuntu session is selected on the log in screen
[14:05] <ikonia> wepslame: no ESSID
[14:05] <wepslame> ikonia: I see
[14:05] <wepslame> Oh, but hang on
[14:05] <wepslame> ikonia: You said
[14:06] <wepslame> 1. Turn off the PC; 2: Turn the killswitch to off; 3: Do 'iwconfig' and send me the output
[14:06] <wepslame> ikonia: I did that, in that order
[14:07] <ikonia> wepslame: correct, it should not be showing any cards if the killswitch is disabling them
[14:07] <ikonia> wepslame: or it should be only showing your usb card, as the kill switch should disable the internal kcard only
[14:08] <wepslame> ikonia: Yes, but why would that kill-switch, also disable my USB interface? :/
[14:08] <ikonia> wepslame: it doesn't
[14:08] <ikonia> wepslame: that's the whole point
[14:08] <_87xman> Hi all!
[14:08] <Anden> hi
[14:08] <_87xman> Wahat's up?
[14:08] <wepslame> ikonia: So why i can't connect to a network?
[14:08] <ikonia> wepslame: the cards are not configured,
[14:09] <vusie> hjkj
[14:09] <wepslame> ikonia: So why i can't connect to a network?
[14:09] <ikonia> wepslame: the cards are not configured,
[14:09] <pratz> I just installed xubuntu 12.04 , but when I log in it always takes xfce session instead of xubuntu session even though xubuntu session is selected on the log in screen
[14:09] <pratz> any help on this
[14:09] <wepslame> ikonia: So how could i configure them, and what is meant by "configuring the cards"? Connecting them to an AP?
[14:10] <wepslame> ikonia: I have basic knowledge
[14:10] <ikonia> wepslame: correct
[14:10] <wepslame> ikonia: So i may ask stupid questions, but that's it...
[14:10] <_87xman> So I'm use Cinnamon desktop from ppa. I think it's a great altern destop for Ubuntu users. I'm use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. What about you?
[14:10] <wepslame> ikonia: So, should i connect to the same network using the both cards?
[14:11] <ikonia> wepslame: no, you only configure the 1 card you want to use
[14:11] <Anden> pratz: best thing i can think of is... see if you can hard code it in a conf file for your displat manager
[14:11] <ikonia> wepslame: if you configure them both to the same network, it will cause a lot of problems
[14:11] <Robertica95> im back
[14:11] <Robertica95> can someone help me?
[14:11] <wepslame> Yeah, a collision will occur i suppose
[14:11] <Robertica95> how i can install amd drivers?
[14:11] <pratz> Anden: do you know where is the conf file located ?
[14:11] <Anden> for graphics or what?
[14:12] <Robertica95> all drivers
[14:12] <_87xman> On jokey-gtk
[14:12] <_87xman> with
[14:12] <Anden> pratz: sorry. dont even know what display manager xubuntu is running by default. maybe you'll have better luck in their own irc channel?
[14:13] <wepslame> ikonia:Should i turn off the internal with the kill switch, and see if the external (USB) card will stay active?
[14:13] <_87xman> lsub
[14:13] <Robertica95> can someone help me???i ask again. How i can install all amd drivers??
[14:13] <_87xman> lsusb
[14:13] <pratz> Anden: but is this related to display manager or session manager ?
[14:14] <ikonia> wepslame: thats what I asked you to do !!!
[14:14] <_87xman> Robertica95 so please read help. It's a very simple thing.
[14:14] <pratz> Anden: I am facing the problem when loggin in with xubuntu session, but still I get xfce session
[14:14] <ikonia> wepslame: that was the test I asked you to do - shutdown the laptop, disabled the card with the kill switch, power on and look at iwconfig to see what cards can be seen
[14:14] <_87xman> KISS :)
[14:14] <Robertica95> ok,i will
[14:15] <Anden> pratz: yeah.. i thought maybe you can hard code which session to use in the dm conf file
[14:15] <pratz> Anden: ahhhh
[14:15] <wepslame> ikonia: But i should've done that since i've "configured" the external wireless card?
[14:15] <Anden> pratz: iirc i did something similar for lightdm
[14:15] <ikonia> wepslame: what ?
[14:16] <wepslame> ikonia:Must go to eat, i assume it won't be a problem to help me when i come back, after 20-30 mins, if you are still here?
[14:19] <_87xman> Robertica95 I can help you. So Wath's The AMD? Is it graphical card or AMD proc with GPU?
[14:23] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> How do i alter the max. CPU-time of a given process, or how do i limit  a given  process to 50% cpu consumption
[14:25] <Anden> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: i dont know but are you familiar with "nice levels"?
[14:25] <_87xman> KISS :) You have funn.
[14:25] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> knightshade, eplained that one to me, but it doesn´t work for me....
[14:26] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> Anden
[14:26] <Anden> it sets the priority level of processes
[14:28] <_87xman> Lucid_Lynx_LTS ! Have you got a latop or Pc?
[14:33] <knightshade> Lucid_Lynx_LTS, 19 means lowest priority, -20 means highest priority. to set a process to lowest priority, you'd do: renice 19 $(pidof processname)
[14:35] <ubuntuaddicted> grub-pc had an update from synaptic. i clicked yes that I wanted the update but now a deb-conf dialog box is on my screen which says, GRUB install devices. I don't know which 1 to choose. I have 3 hard drives in my system, I know which drive is the / partition BUT not sure whether to choose the entire /dev/sda OR do I choose the partition /dev/sda1?
[14:36] <ubuntuaddicted> what would a default normal installation do? is it choose the entire drive? i think that's correct?
[14:38] <serverbot> ubuntuaddicted, yes
[14:40] <ubuntuaddicted> serverbot, yes what? entire drive?
[14:40] <^Phantom^> I think I've screwed something up.  I tried to mount fd0 to /media/floppy0 on lubuntu, and the drive has just been sitting there spinning the diskette for 15 minutes, either that or is linux unable to read floppies anymore?
[14:40] <^Phantom^> i did sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 -t msdos
[14:41] <^Phantom^> and it's still just spinning
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> !floppy | ^Phantom^
[14:41] <mikeshollen> Good morning. I am setting up a Linux server, and I am trying to install/configure the no-ip server for free dynamic DNS. I ran make install, and followed through with the questions being asked. I am under the impression it should be running now. How do I check to see if it is currently a running service?
[14:41] <serverbot> yes it will format you entire drive
[14:42] <^Phantom^> Is there any way to stop the motor?
[14:42] <ubuntuaddicted> serverbot, i choose /dev/sda and clicked next BUT it just brings up a box that says install grub without configuring it, its like it's not taking effect
[14:42] <^Phantom^> I don't want to eject the diskette and risk breaking the drive or something
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> mikeshollen: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might help you
[14:43] <mikeshollen> Thank you
[14:43] <^Phantom^> device manager is showing the drive as empty, too
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> !info fdutils | ^Phantom^ maybe this will work?
[14:46] <Lix> hello
[14:46] <^Phantom^> I'll look into both, thank you
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> Lix: hello, what can we do for you?
[14:46] <^Phantom^> i know it's old-skool, but I use floppy disks to copy data to and from my win98 laptop
[14:47] <knightshade> o.O
[14:47] <Lix> i search a proxy program
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> ^Phantom^: knothing happens when you push a floppy in?
[14:47] <hassen_> hello
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> !proxy | Lix
[14:47] <^Phantom^> no
[14:47] <^Phantom^> I can try mounting, but I get an endless spin cycle
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> ^Phantom^: found a bug on that, not sure its related to your issue..https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/983681
[14:48] <^Phantom^> hm, it seems similar.
[14:49] <hassen_> how to add a virtual webcam to the system in ubuntu?i couldn't find a dedicated software for that,(the only one i've got which is webcamstudio is making my ubuntu echoing errors and stuff,so i removed it)
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> hassen_: i think webcamstudio is the best one, never tested myself though
[14:53] <Lix> i have heard of tor but it is so security?
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> Lix: security depends of what you actually want?
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> Lix: ive tested mullvad, a swedish vpn that supports ubuntu software, pretty decent aswell
[14:55] <^Phantom^> Here's what I'm getting when I try to mount: mount: block device /dev/fd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[14:55] <^Phantom^> And it doesn't actually mount the diskette, it just sits and spins
[14:55] <^Phantom^> doing this as root
[14:56] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, PIA vpn is also a good choice if you don't mind $7US/mos
[14:56] <BluesKaj> it has a swedish server
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> ^Phantom^: did you setup write-protect off on the floppy itself?
[14:56] <^Phantom^> the floppy is not physically write-protected
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: tnx for the hint
[14:57] <toni54321> my ubuntu dont make automatic comection with wi-fi
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> ^Phantom^: note sure then mate, havent been using floppy's for years on ubuntu :p
[14:57] <BluesKaj> it's also very linux friendly lotuspsychje
[14:57] <toni54321> how can i connect it
[14:57] <^Phantom^> hehe, it's okay, thank you for trying :)
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> toni54321: did you install wifi drivers?
[14:57] <toni54321> no
[14:57] <^Phantom^> guess I won't be copying that floppy today :P
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> ^Phantom^: try those floppy utils package
[14:57] <toni54321> how can i do that
[14:58] <ubuntuaddicted> well i don't know what was up with that grub-pc update today but my machine still works despite grub-pc erroring out.
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> toni54321: check your additional drivers section
[14:58] <^Phantom^> i know the drive actually works, bios was able to read a bootable one that I tried.
[14:58] <toni54321> how i'm new too ubuntu
[14:59] <bisi> Can you connect automatically?
[14:59] <Lix> is tor not a vpn?
[14:59] <^Phantom^> so, something is happening at the software level, I imagine
[14:59] <bisi> SOrry, I mean manually.
[14:59] <BluesKaj> lix no
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> toni54321: software&updates last tab additional drivers
[14:59] <^Phantom^> I'll google around some more and look in to those tools a bit later.  I must get some sleep for now.
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> nite
[14:59] <llutz> Lix: https://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html.en
[14:59] <toni54321> i can find that to the dash menu
[14:59] <toni54321> ?
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> toni54321: yes
[15:00] <toni54321> now i try
[15:02] <erpenombra> ciao non riesco a scaricare gli aggiornamenti
[15:02] <kostkon> !it | erpenombra
[15:03] <wepslame> ikonia: Where did we stop?
[15:04] <Lix> i know the concept of tor but it is not a chance to surfing an anonym how by another vpn
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> Lix: anonymity is very relative, but you can try out some ubuntu packages yourself
[15:06] <knightshade> ^Phantom^: possibly this new floppy technology needs some extra time to mature...meanwhile you could use punch cards or print the data to paper and reenter it on the other machine :-)
[15:08] <v1c3> Hi! I installed connman (network-manager was removed) and now i have no working networkconnection anymore. Can anybody help me please?
[15:08] <Lix> which packages would you advise
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> Lix: tor packages, or vpn services, or dig into private socks5 proxys
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> Lix: apt-cache search proxy
[15:12] <Lix> i have looking by tor but ask me for a proxy
[15:15] <v1c3> no idea? its my server which is offline now! its really important
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> v1c3: reinstall network-manager?
[15:16] <v1c3> lotuspsychje: without a networkconnetion I cant do that.
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> v1c3: add your ubuntu cdrom to software sources and install it from there
[15:17] <Rory> v1c3: You can set a static IP https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html#ip-addressing
[15:20] <v1c3> lotuspsychje: no cdrom-drive
[15:21] <v1c3> Rory: Did the trick!
[15:21] <v1c3> lotuspsychje: Rory: Thanks!
[15:22] <Rory> No problem, glad I could help :)
[15:25] <mgorbach> Anyone have a suggested guide / reading for a fairly experienced linux guy (Gentoo previously) moving to Ubuntu Server?
[15:26] <toni54321> i find the softuer&update in the dash for download the driver of the netuorc card but i can't akces to the internet with cable. how cwn i do
[15:26] <Wiz_KeeD> Guys, can I please get some help with? (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[15:27] <Wiz_KeeD> I got the same usb stick same download same proccess now this comes up EVERY TIME
[15:27] <Wiz_KeeD> this is stupid...worked first time now it's broken
[15:27] <v1c3> Rory: Hm I can ssh to the server but on the server i cant ping anything: Network unreachable
[15:27] <toni54321> #ubuntu-al
[15:28] <toni54321> i find the softuer&update in the dash for download the driver of the netuorc card but i can't akces to the internet with cable. how cwn i do
[15:29] <knightshade> mgorbach: just install it and ask here if you want to know how to do something...
[15:29] <ceecee> good morning, i'm about to switch over to ubuntu 12.04 because I'm trying to get scrivener working on my netbook.
[15:30] <Wiz_KeeD> help please?
[15:30] <Wiz_KeeD> Rory, :D
[15:32] <Wiz_KeeD> :(
[15:32] <Wiz_KeeD> !help checksum
[15:32] <elinsky> :(
[15:33] <Myrtti> !md5
[15:33] <Wiz_KeeD> !md5
[15:33] <toni54321> some body help how can i conect too the internet
[15:33] <toni54321> ?
[15:34] <Rory> toni54321: Are you using a cable or wifi?
[15:34] <toni54321> i want ti use wifi
[15:34] <toni54321> but i cant
[15:35] <ceecee> then you need to know youre wireless router's ssid and WPA2 password
[15:35] <ceecee> are you using the computer that's hard-wired into your router now?
[15:36] <Rory> toni54321: Can you see your wifi network in the list?
[15:36] <Wiz_KeeD> md5 sum is good
[15:36] <Wiz_KeeD> nobody knows what's going on?
[15:37] <toni54321> no in the list dont apear amy thing
[15:37] <ceecee> i have no idea what you're talking about Wiz_KeeD
[15:37] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Is this the USB3 thing on your new laptop, still?
[15:37] <Wiz_KeeD> Rory, yeah man but it worked before I installed it now it gives the same error on both laptops
[15:37] <Wiz_KeeD> :((
[15:39] <ceecee> oh ubuntu install, why you gotta be like thhis.
[15:40] <wad> I need to set some kernel parameters in my grub (for Ubuntu 13.10). Which file do I edit now? I think it must have changed from the old Ubuntu I used to use.
[15:41] <ceecee> aAJFALAKLSD it's not working it just says SYSLINUX 4.07 EDD 2013-07-25 Copyright 194-2013 H. Peter Anvin et al
[15:41] <ceecee> and doesn't DO anything
[15:41] <wad> Looking through /etc/grub.d files - that's a lotta bash!
[15:41] <Wiz_KeeD> ceecee, I know right :(
[15:42] <Wiz_KeeD> why would it not work...i will cry
[15:42] <ceecee> blast scrivener to thhe skies. Why does it have to be so indispensable?
[15:42] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[15:42] <ceecee> whoa
[15:42] <battlestar> nice
[15:42] <ceecee> fun
[15:43] <ceecee> ugh ubuntu why won't you work
[15:43] <ceecee> crunchbang won't let me go
[15:43] <ikonia> ceecee: how about stating the problem and asking for help - rather than just randomly complaining into the air
[15:43] <Wiz_KeeD> halp :(
[15:43] <toni54321_> sory i lost the conection. how can i search for my wi-fi
[15:43] <toni54321_> ?
[15:44] <ceecee> aAJFALAKLSD it's not working it just says SYSLINUX 4.07 EDD 2013-07-25 Copyright 194-2013 H. Peter Anvin et al and doesn't start the installation progress
[15:44] <ikonia> ceecee: what does aAJFALAKLSD mean ?
[15:44] <ikonia> ceecee: try communicating clearly what version of ubuntu, what media, what are you trying to do, what's the problem
[15:44] <ceecee> are you a bot or what
[15:45] <ikonia> ceecee: yes, I'm a bot, that's why I'm talking to you clearly and asking you to explain things in a useful manner,
[15:45] <ceecee> oh, well you're quite cleverly programmed, I must say.
[15:45] <ceecee> hats off to whoever wrote you!
[15:46] <ikonia> ceecee: so what does aAJFALAKLSD mean and does it have any relevence ?
[15:46] <Derekk> hello
[15:46] <user82> ceecee i would check the iso/installation media as first step. maybe something is damaged
[15:47] <ceecee> thanks, user82. I was having trouble convincing it to write to the USB stick.
[15:47] <user82> i had a random issue installing once..took me about 1 hour to relaize it was that easy to solve
[15:47] <ikonia> ceecee: again - you're just wasting time with vaguage comments
[15:48] <Derekk> Please need help...
[15:48] <Derekk> root@ubuntu:~# reaver -i mon0 -b D8:5D:4C:ED:DC:CA -vv
[15:48] <Derekk> Reaver v1.4 WiFi Protected Setup Attack Tool
[15:48] <Derekk> Copyright (c) 2011, Tactical Network Solutions, Craig Heffner <cheffner@tacnetsol.com>
[15:48] <Derekk> [+] Waiting for beacon from D8:5D:4C:ED:DC:CA
[15:48] <Derekk> [+] Switching mon0 to channel 1
[15:48] <user82> i think there is a option to check it in the boot menu...
[15:48] <Derekk> [+] Switching mon0 to channel 7
[15:48] <ikonia> ceecee: 1.) what version of ubuntu 2.) what media 3.) how are you making the media 4.) what are you tyring to do with the media
[15:48] <Derekk> [!] WARNING: Failed to associate with D8:5D:4C:ED:DC:CA (ESSID: ina)
[15:48] <Derekk> [!] WARNING: Failed to associate with D8:5D:4C:ED:DC:CA (ESSID: ina)
[15:48] <ceecee> I could try formatting it and doing it again, but I don't have a good way to test to see if thhe .iso is damaged
[15:48] <ikonia> ceecee: stating "I can't convince it to right to usb" means nothing and doesn't explain the problem or what you are doing
[15:49] <toni54321_> i'm using ubuntu for the first time but i dont now how tu conect it too the internet. i have wi-fi
[15:49] <user82> ceecee, there is a thing called md5 sum, you can use to see if the download worked. and in the boot menu there should be an option to check the ubuntu disc as well. also listen to ikonia and tell us some more details...
[15:50] <ceecee> toni are you using a different computer than the one you installed ubuntu on? I'm assuming yes...
[15:51] <user82> toni54321_, did you check the icon in the top right corner?
[15:51] <toni54321_> yes
[15:51] <user82> does it list your wifi when clicking onto it?
[15:51] <toni54321_> but dont apear nothing
[15:52] <toni54321_> i have dual bot with win 7
[15:53] <user82> and there is a wifi connection toni54321_, which shows you an empty list of available networks?
[15:54] <toni54321_> when i open the conection menu  the list is empty
[15:54] <user82> but a "wireless network" does exist. like seen here, but with a empty list below: http://pharos.ece.utexas.edu/wiki/images/3/38/Ubuntu-adhoc-step5.png
[15:55] <user82> and you are sure that it is enabled (hardware key on your notebook etc)?
[15:55] <wad> Any of you guys know how to make my laptop NOT try and use the nvidia video card on boot, and just use the integrated intel one? I can blacklist the nouveau driver, will that do it?
[15:56] <toni54321_> yes i check thet
[15:57] <user82> toni54321_, then i do not really know, sorry. usually you either do not have the driver or it is working fully...you could eventally check this: http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-additional-drivers-in-ubuntu-13-04-from-the-gui/
[15:57] <user82> but if you have a "wireless network" listed, it is unlikely
[16:00] <toni54321_> if i put the cable ubuntu conect sutomativly
[16:00] <toni54321_> ?
[16:00] <user82> yes, that works
[16:00] <user82> did you find any additional driver for wifi cards?
[16:01] <toni54321_> i dont now how too find it
[16:02] <user82> see my link. if the list is empty, there is none.
[16:02] <toni54321_> is epty
[16:03] <user82> hmh too bad. sorry then i do not know why it cannot find your network
[16:03] <toni54321_> ok user
[16:04] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone know why this might come up? (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[16:04] <Wiz_KeeD> tried most of the things suggested there
[16:05] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD:  because it can't read the file system where it's trying to update from / read from
[16:05] <wad> I blacklisted all the nouveau stuff, but it doesn't seem to be picking up the integrated video card on boot. Any ideas?
[16:05] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, how come it worked before, was it because of the way I formatted the second time?
[16:06] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I've no idea, as I don't know what you are doing, you just asked what that error meant
[16:07] <Fabolicious> Hiii
[16:12] <ceecee> well I tried re-creating the bootable usb drive for ubuntu 12.04 32 bit, but it goes to that copyright line and then doesn't change when I try to install it on my netbook.
[16:13] <ceecee> user82, does that mean I can't install 32 bit ubuntu? I have 64 bit crunchbang on it now, but a program I need won't work with it.
[16:13] <gok_> hi guys any channel for java related quires
[16:13] <gok_> ?
[16:14] <user82> ceecee, usually it works. unless it is a really old machine without PAE, but then booting fails
[16:15] <ceecee> I don't think it's really old
[16:15] <ceecee> when I bought it it had windows 8 installed on it
[16:16] <gvo> Why is floodbod, flooding?
[16:16] <user82> maybe you could upload a screenshot. go to "try ubuntu", connect your internet and then start the installer. this way you can grab a screenshot and upload it
[16:16] <ceecee> I got rid of that for ubuntu, but it was so slow I put lxde on it, but lxde is ugly, so I switched to crunchbang, but crunchbang won't run scrivener.
[16:17] <ceecee> er, what's try ubuntu?
[16:17] <gvo> it's an option on the live disk.
[16:17] <ceecee> the live disk won't work
[16:17] <ceecee> it just gives me a line about copyright and doesn't do anything else.
[16:18] <geirha> gok_: /msg alis list *#java*
[16:21] <ceecee> could be my usb stick is the problem, but it's -28 and I am not going anywhere in -28 weather.
[16:22] <gvo> don't blame you
[16:23] <Lope> I've got a EXT4 volume with 6.2GB free. I've deleted about 200MB of 550 files and written about 1500 files of 600MB to the disk. what are my chances of undeleting the original files? can I know if there has been corruption?
[16:23] <TauNeutrino> hey guys, any good and simple math plotting program? Like plotting linear equations in 3D and stuff?
[16:23] <ikonia> Lope: why do you think there has been courrption
[16:23] <geirha> Lope: Slim to none
[16:23] <ikonia> Lope: the odds of getting your files back are slim as a lot of other writes have happened
[16:24] <jrib> !undelete | Lope
[16:24] <jrib> Lope: use your backups
[16:24] <Lope> I'm new to linux. So I don't know how EXT4 treats deleted files. for example some filesystems might avoid writing over parts of the disk where files were deleted more recently?
[16:25] <Lope> okay I'll use other methods
[16:25] <gvo> TauNeutrino: scilab or genius might do
[16:25] <Lope> Luckily its only a small subset of the data that got corrupted.
[16:25] <ikonia> why do you think there is corruption
[16:25] <ikonia> there is nothing in what you've said to suggest any form of corruption
[16:25] <gvo> TauNeutrino: But I don't think anything is simple.
[16:26] <ceecee> hmm. might be back.
[16:26] <TauNeutrino> hm
[16:28] <TauNeutrino> scilab? Isnt that the program with wich you have to start a server ?
[16:28] <kostkon> !info scilab
[16:29] <TauNeutrino> 309 mb :(
[16:29] <TauNeutrino> I don't want to calculate how the universe will end, just plot some linear functions
[16:35] <silly-billy> Hi there. I had problems setting up my scanner CLX-3305FW. I managed to get it recognized only if i do "sudo simple-scan".
[16:35] <silly-billy> I used this guide
[16:35] <silly-billy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/267395/how-to-make-samsung-multifunction-printer-work-under-ubuntu
[16:36] <silly-billy> Basicly i need root access. does anyone know how to fix this?
[16:36] <zykotick9> silly-billy: sidenote - DON'T use sudo with GUI programs!  it's important - see "/msg ubottu gksudo" for details
[16:39] <silly-billy> zykotick9: thx for the tip ;)
[16:39] <silly-billy> Anyone on how to make it not require root access? :3
[16:40] <wepslame> I have a problem with my wireless adapters. Actually, the problem is that when i am disabling the built-in laptop wireless network card (with turning off the kill switch), the USB Wireless Adapter is stopped too. I can't get any signals from the nearby Access Points with the USB adapter. Any ideas so we could solve this problem?
[16:41] <zykotick9> silly-billy: regarding the scanner, 1) is there a "scanner" group on ubuntu?  in terminal "grep scanner /etc/group"  2) if so, are you a member?  in terminal type "groups" to check.
[16:42] <silly-billy> zykotick9: right you are i'm not
[16:42] <zykotick9> silly-billy: fyi, it still might now help... best of luck
[16:42] <zykotick9> s/now/not/
[16:43] <wepslame> I have a problem with my wireless adapters. Actually, the problem is that when i am disabling the built-in laptop wireless network card (with turning off the kill switch), the USB Wireless Adapter is stopped too. I can't get any signals from the nearby Access Points with the USB adapter. Any ideas so we could solve this problem?
[16:50] <Ironman> hi it possible to move specific files like videos to the end of the drive ? fs is ext4 i want that because the performance on the end of my disk i like 60 MB/s and at the start i get over 100 so new written data will be written at the start and not the end
[16:51] <pc_magas> Ironman, low level disk managemenc can be done with dd but it is a liitle dagerous.....
[16:51] <pc_magas> (data loss)
[16:52] <silly-billy> I added my user to the group scanner, but it still doesn't work. Any other ideas?
[16:52] <zykotick9> silly-billy: did you log out and back in?
[16:52] <silly-billy> zykotick9: yes
[16:52] <zykotick9> silly-billy: ya, i'm not shocked... i have a scanner that requires root to work as well.
[16:52] <licoq> cd
[16:53] <Ironman> i found a solution with gparted to shrink the fs to the end of the disk at expand it later. but if gparted can somehow move files there has to be antother easy way to do it ?
[16:53] <silly-billy> zykotick9: would it be considered a security risk?
[16:54] <wepslame> I have a problem with my wireless adapters. Actually, the problem is that when i am disabling the built-in laptop wireless network card (with turning off the kill switch), the USB Wireless Adapter is stopped too. I can't get any signals from the nearby Access Points with the USB adapter. Any ideas so we could solve this problem?
[16:54] <zykotick9> silly-billy: ? running anything as root, that "shouldn't" require root - is a bit of a security risk.  but i wouldn't loose any sleep over it ;)
[16:55] <wepslame> I have a problem with my wireless adapters. Actually, the problem is that when i am disabling the built-in laptop wireless network card (with turning off the kill switch), the USB Wireless Adapter is stopped too. I can't get any signals from the nearby Access Points with the USB adapter. Any ideas so we could solve this problem?
[16:55] <zykotick9> silly-billy: "it" being the scanner - for other things i would ;)
[16:55] <silly-billy> zykotick9: The problem is i need to set it up for a user who wouldn't want to or know how to use the command line.
[16:56] <zykotick9> silly-billy: well, best of luck - i'm afraid i don't have any suggestions
[16:56] <silly-billy> Is there a way to get ir running as root from the launcher. Without requiring the password
[16:56] <silly-billy> Well thanks mate ;)
[16:57] <zykotick9> silly-billy: you could look into sudoers file... so no password is required
[16:57] <llutz> silly-billy: write an udev-rule to set proper permission for the scanner to be accessible by your user (set GROUP and PERM)
[16:59] <silly-billy> Okay thanks guys I'll check it out
[16:59] <llutz> silly-billy: like: SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="0xxx", ATTRS{idProduct} =="0yyy",  MODE="0666", GROUP="whatever"
[17:00] <llutz> silly-billy: get idVendor/idProduct from lsusb
[17:02] <Wiz_KeeD> halp :(
[17:02] <JaredForTheWin> It seems that they moved #ubuntu to Freenode, and off QuakeNet. Or I could be crazy.
[17:02] <kri-kri> bla bla bla
[17:03] <jrib> JaredForTheWin: the official #ubuntu has always been on freenode
[17:03] <Wiz_KeeD> Why doesn't grup start?
[17:04] <jrib> Wiz_KeeD: what is "grup"?
[17:04] <Wiz_KeeD> grub
[17:04] <JaredForTheWin> jrib: it's probably a misspelling of grub
[17:04] <wepslame> I have a problem with my wireless adapters. Actually, the problem is that when i am disabling the built-in laptop wireless network card (with turning off the kill switch), the USB Wireless Adapter is stopped too. I can't get any signals from the nearby Access Points with the USB adapter. Any ideas so we could solve this problem?
[17:04] <Wiz_KeeD> I managed to install ubuntu by using a dvd instead of a stick but grub just won't start
[17:04] <Wiz_KeeD> what is that all about?
[17:04] <JaredForTheWin> jrib: i always went on quakenet for #ubuntu, so yeah
[17:05] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone?
[17:06] <Caroline28> ?
[17:06] <JaredForTheWin> Wiz_KeeD I have no idea
[17:06] <wepslame> I have a problem with my wireless adapters. Actually, the problem is that when i am disabling the built-in laptop wireless network card (with turning off the kill switch), the USB Wireless Adapter is stopped too. I can't get any signals from the nearby Access Points with the USB adapter. Any ideas so we could solve this problem?
[17:06] <Wiz_KeeD> installed ubuntu alongside windows and grub doesn't start it just goes directly into windows
[17:06] <knightshade> wepslame: why are you using an usb wireless adapter, if you have one integrated?
[17:06] <vusie> re-install grub
[17:07] <Wiz_KeeD> how can I do that when it boots directly into windows?
[17:07] <tonyt> run grub from a cd/dvd
[17:08] <tonyt> run/install
[17:08] <vusie> Wiz_KeeD:  boot from into live and sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update
[17:08] <vusie> sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair
[17:09] <Wiz_KeeD> vusie, ok doing that now
[17:09] <wad> Does anyone know why lightdm would fail to run?
[17:09] <vusie> sure
[17:09] <wepslame> knightshade: Because the built-in is not capable of packet injection, and i am trying some WEP cracking (educational purposes, on my friend's network)
[17:09] <wad> I see this in the log: DEBUG: Seat: Stopping; greeter display server failed to start
[17:09] <gokhan> hi
[17:09] <vusie> wad: ater doing what?
[17:10] <wad> vusie, I have not been able to get this new laptop to run with Ubuntu at all.
[17:10] <wad> I've been trying for about 8 hours now.
[17:10] <wad> I've disabled the NVidia card in BIOS
[17:10] <gokhan> Wireless driver not found ? I'm not setup wlan driver. Help!!
[17:11] <wad> And put in nomodeset
[17:11] <vusie> wad: installed?
[17:11] <silly-billy> Where am i supposed to write the udev exactly? I put the rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/99-libsane-samsungmfp.rules
[17:11] <silly-billy> it had no effect
[17:11] <wepslame> I have a problem with my wireless adapters. Actually, the problem is that when i am disabling the built-in laptop wireless network card (with turning off the kill switch), the USB Wireless Adapter is stopped too. I can't get any signals from the nearby Access Points with the USB adapter. Any ideas so we could solve this problem?
[17:11] <wad> But lightdm just crashes.
[17:11] <wepslame> I have a problem with my wireless adapters. Actually, the problem is that when i am disabling the built-in laptop wireless network card (with turning off the kill switch), the USB Wireless Adapter is stopped too. I can't get any signals from the nearby Access Points with the USB adapter. Any ideas so we could solve this problem?
[17:11] <FloodBot1> wepslame: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:11] <JaredForTheWin> Wepslame, don't spam
[17:11] <wad> vusie, I bought a Lenovo IdeaPad y510p
[17:11] <wad> Trying  and trying and trying and trying and trying to get Ubuntu to run on it, because I can't stand Windows.
[17:12] <wepslame> Sorry, i was restarting my network, so i entered again because i was not sure if it was sent to server
[17:12] <silly-billy> The the udev rule looks like so: SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="0x04e8", ATTRS{idProduct} =="0x3456",  MODE="0666", GROUP="scanner"
[17:12] <wepslame> was restarting my connection*
[17:12] <JaredForTheWin> We already got the message.
[17:12] <wad> I install 13.10 64-bit desktop.
[17:12] <wepslame> Sorry, as i said
[17:12] <Wiz_KeeD> vusie, into live cd now
[17:12] <JaredForTheWin> You said your issue about 3 times
[17:12] <JaredForTheWin> no
[17:12] <JaredForTheWin> now*
[17:12] <toni54321> hi. how can i use the" softuer&update" for dowload nvidia driver?
[17:13] <wepslame> Well the Ubuntu bot is saying that i should repeat my question, in order to find an answer / solution.
[17:13] <vusie> Wiz_KeeD: run those commands
[17:13] <JaredForTheWin> Which one?
[17:13] <wepslame> hang on
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> Wad: tried Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[17:14] <knightshade> Wiz_KeeD: do you have more than one harddrive?
[17:14] <SchrodingersScat> wepslame: ifconfig ? could put the interface you don't like down ("Interface, you're a terrible burden on your mother.")
[17:14] <wad> ActionParsnip, yes, actually, I removed the partition, recreated, and installed 12.04. Same issue: black screen
[17:14] <toni54321> hi. how can i use the" softuer&update" for dowload nvidia driver? i open it but dont hapen any ting and ask me an autentificacion
[17:14] <vusie> Wad:: does ur machine have the ufi thing?
[17:14] <llutz> silly-billy: you restarted udev and disconnected/connected the scanner again?
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> Wad: what video chip are you using?
[17:14] <wad> vusie, yes, but that's not an issue.
[17:15] <SchrodingersScat> !nvidia | toni54321
[17:15] <knightshade> Wiz_KeeD: you possibly installed grub on the first drive, while the second is selected as boot device in BIOS
[17:15] <wad> ActionParsnip: NVIDIA GeForce GT755M GDDR5 2GB
[17:15] <wepslame> SchrodingersSchat:Nice nickname, lol. Ontopic: But we are talking about wireless interfaces, should i use iwconfig instead? Thanks in advance
[17:15] <knightshade> witquicked: where the windows bootloader is installed
[17:15] <toni54321> yes
[17:15] <wad> But I've disabled that in BIOS, so it's just using the integrated Intel chip now.
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> Wad: does your CPU have a GPU as well?
[17:15] <wepslame> SchrodingersScat:Nice nickname, lol. Ontopic: But we are talking about wireless interfaces, should i use iwconfig instead? Thanks in advance
[17:15] <wad> At least, that it the intent.
[17:15] <knightshade> *Wiz_KeeD
[17:15] <silly-billy> llutz: would logging in and out be equivalent?
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> Wad: tried the boot option: nomodeset ?
[17:16] <wad> ActionParsnip, yes, I've disabled that in BIOS, so it's just using the integrated Intel chip now.
[17:16] <wad> ActionParsnip, yes.
[17:16] <llutz> silly-billy: no
[17:16] <llutz> silly-billy: sudo udevadm trigger  && sudo reload udev
[17:16] <wad> I've blacklisted the nouveau drivers, too. I un-blacklisted them when I just disabled the NVidia in bios.
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> Wad: and: intel.nomodeset=1
[17:16] <SchrodingersScat> wepslame: afaik iwconfig is for setting options specific to wireless, but ifconfig can still put them up and down.  ex. ifconfig wlan0 down # should put my wireless card down, unless some daemon in ubuntu puts it back up.
[17:16] <wad> I haven't put that in, let me do it now:
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> Wad: and: intel.blacklist=1
[17:17] <wad> ok
[17:17] <wad> Wait, why do I want to blacklist intel?
[17:17] <silly-billy> llutz: still no result
[17:17] <wad> Don't I need that video driver?
[17:17] <wepslame> SchrodingersScat: Thanks, i will try that now.
[17:17] <llutz> silly-billy: anything according that in syslog?
[17:18] <wad> I want to do ANYTHING to get this laptop useable.
[17:18] <SchrodingersScat> wepslame: running 'ifconfig' with no options should show you what you have access to, and so in your case you should see your two cards.
[17:18] <silly-billy> llutz: sorry, where can i see the log?
[17:18] <wad> ActionParsnip, okay, I added those two options, still fails. The lightdm is failing.
[17:19] <wad> [+3.38s] DEBUG: Seat: Stopping; greeter display server failed to start
[17:19] <llutz> silly-billy: /var/log/syslog
[17:19] <wad> Possibly because the intel video driver isn't here.
[17:19] <wad> I don't know how to turn that on.
[17:19] <wad> I did turn off the nvidia driver.
[17:19] <JaredForTheWin> wad: you should try turning on the nvidia driver
[17:19] <wad> JaredForTheWin, I've spent about four hours trying to get it to work.
[17:20] <wad> I'm starting to think it will never work for anyone ever.
[17:20] <macky> Which channel can I use to reach out to the Ubuntu community to request signatures for a petition? I have a petition to ask Rovio for a Linux version of Angry Birds for which I need signatures.
[17:20] <Vooloo> How can I get GLIBCXX_3.4.14 on Ubuntu 10.04?
[17:20] <Wiz_KeeD> vusie, COULD this be becuase of the ubuntu version
[17:20] <Wiz_KeeD> ?
[17:20] <wad> I tried using the nouveau drivers, as well as the proprietary drivers from NVidia.
[17:20] <JaredForTheWin> wad: i'm not surprised the problems are going, because both drivers are off
[17:20] <JaredForTheWin> macky: #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:20] <wad> JaredForTheWin, how do I turn on the Intel driver?
[17:20] <Wiz_KeeD> knightshade, sorry yes, you might be right?
[17:20] <wad> In the past, it's always just automatically set itself up.
[17:21] <macky> Thanks JaredForTheWin
[17:21] <wad> Beats me why it's failing now.
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> Vooloo: try in #ubuntu-server there may be a PPA.
[17:21] <silly-billy> llutz: http://pastebin.com/5edwr0kY
[17:21] <JaredForTheWin> wad: intel.blacklist=0
[17:21] <wad> I'll do that.
[17:21] <wad> 1 sec.
[17:22] <wad> Okay, done. Result: fail
[17:22] <wad> Let me check the log to see why...
[17:22] <vusie> Wiz_KeeD: am afraid to lie...i get that wen i install windows ontop of linux all the time in 12.04 and 12.10
[17:22] <Wiz_KeeD> wen?
[17:22] <wad> [+3.20s] DEBUG: Seat: Stopping; greeter display server failed to start
[17:22] <Wiz_KeeD> grub shows now vusie !
[17:22] <wad> lightdm failed again
[17:22] <wad> lspci shows this: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
[17:23] <wad> (and no NVidia; I disabled that in BIOS)
[17:23] <silly-billy> I assume this points to the fault:
[17:23] <silly-billy> Dec  7 19:17:15 DarbistabasPC simple-scan: io/hpmud/pp.c 627: unable to read device-id ret=-1
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Wad: have you tried attaching a monitor to it?
[17:23] <vusie> Wiz_KeeD:  m glad i helpd....keep those commands you will need them all the time if you install windows ontop of linux
[17:23] <wad> No, I haven't... that's a good idea.
[17:23] <wepslame> SchrodingersScat: How to see if an interface is up / down?
[17:24] <wad> I've got one downstairs, let me go get it.
[17:24] <wad> brb
[17:24] <wepslame> I dont know how to solve this problem, and i'm really pissed off.
[17:24] <knightshade> Wiz_KeeD: well.. then reboot, press the key to enter BIOS setup and select the other harddrive as first boot device
[17:24] <llutz> silly-billy: not sure, seems that the usb-printing module /usblp/ prevents access to the scanner. sorry, no idea about those "i-do-all-but-nothing-right" multifunctional techstuff
[17:24] <silly-billy> llutz: thx for the effort ;)
[17:25] <SchrodingersScat> wepslame: ifconfig, it should say if it's up or down
[17:25] <toni54321> i'm new tu ubuntu where i have tu put this comand "lspci | grep VGA"
[17:25] <Wiz_KeeD> knightshade, I only have one, that's the strange thing
[17:25] <Wiz_KeeD> vusie, I installed windows the linux...
[17:25] <physicist> toni54321: In the terminal?
[17:26] <toni54321> where is the terminal in the dash?
[17:26] <physicist> toni54321: ctrl + alt + t
[17:26] <JaredForTheWin> Toni, open your Dash (it's the icon at the top of your launcher, which is at the left), and search for Terminal. Open it, and type the command in there.
[17:26] <wepslame> SchrodingersScat: Yeah i see...But the problem remains. I don't know why would my usb bus would be controlled by the built in wifi kill switch...
[17:26] <silly-billy> k cya guys
[17:26] <vusie> Wiz_KeeD: thats why
[17:27] <physicist> I want to make ubuntu grub 2 default. The debian's isn't cool.
[17:27] <physicist> Is there a way to do it without reinstall?
[17:28] <Wiz_KeeD> vusie, isn't that the proper way to do it? first install windows then linux? everyone here said to do it this way
[17:28] <vusie> physicist: can you be more precose
[17:28] <Wiz_KeeD> and now I have two windows starters in grub...
[17:28] <vusie> precise
[17:28] <wepslame> physicist: Why would you want for grub 2 to be the default?
[17:28] <Wiz_KeeD> is that because of the previous kernel or smth?
[17:29] <Abp> hi..
[17:29] <wepslame> hi
[17:29] <wepslame> lol
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> ABp: hi
[17:29] <Abp> This is Ana.. can anybody help me about installing additional drivers in my ubuntu 12.04?
[17:29] <physicist> I ust had installed debian kwheezy, and debian's grub was made default. I want to revert it and make the ubuntu's default. The purple one..
[17:29] <vusie> Wiz_KeeD:  yes thats the way.....you might have installed grub on a partition and windows boot loader on tha main drive
[17:29] <llutz> physicist: install *buntus grub into MBR and make sure your debian-installation won't overwrite it later
[17:29] <physicist> just*
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> Physicist: boot to ubuntu and run: sudo grub-install /dev/sda (assuming sda is your hdd)
[17:30] <Calinou> Abp, which additional drivers? for what hardware?
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> Abp: what driver do you need?
[17:30] <physicist> Humn !!
[17:30] <vusie> Wiz_KeeD: two windows starters...? ddnt get that
[17:31] <Wiz_KeeD> vusie, I just clicked install ubuntu next to winws :(
[17:31] <Wiz_KeeD> pff
[17:31] <Abp> Broadcom wireless.
[17:31] <kostkon> wepslame, for a start, turn it off again then check, and if you want pastebin, the output of  rfkill list
[17:31] <Wiz_KeeD> Should I format all over and ask for you assistance in the proccess vusie ?
[17:31] <Abp> hello... I need Broadcom STA Wireless
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | abp
[17:31] <vusie> Wiz_KeeD: okay lets do that,but pm me
[17:31] <Abp> and it says sorry, cant install
[17:32] <physicist> ActionParsnip: Doing it, I'll have ubuntu as the 'first to boot', right?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Abp: do you have a wired internet connection?
[17:32] <Abp> yes.
[17:32] <knightshade> physicist: you can change the default in the file /etc/default/grub, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup#Configuring_GRUB_2
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Physicist: whatever you had setup in Ubuntu those settings will be used
[17:32] <Abp> and asks me to look into var/../jockey
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> Abp: is the OS fully updated?
[17:33] <Abp> just installed.
[17:33] <physicist> knightshade: Ok..
[17:33] <wad> ActionParsnip, I verified that the extrenal monitor works by going into Windows, but it doesn't show anything under linux. I tried booting with several different ways of setting things up.
[17:33] <physicist> ok..
[17:33] <wad> ActionParsnip, if you like, I would be happy to give you shell access to the box.
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> Abp: then get full updates, then reboot and retry
[17:33] <wad> Maybe you can see something in the logs?
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Wad: if the OS never boots how would anyone connect?
[17:34] <Abp> ok.. can u instruct me how to do full update?
[17:34] <wad> ActionParsnip, the OS boots just fine, there is just no display.
[17:34] <wad> I've been sshing into it to do stuff.
[17:34] <Abp> "Sorry, installation of this driver failed.  Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log" this was the message.
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Abp: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:35] <Abp> ok.. running them..
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Abp: be sure software centre and jockey etc are closed.
[17:35] <justpie_togo> Hey all. Would anyone know how to recover deleted files from the /tmp dir from within  a specific time period?
[17:36] <physicist> ActionParsnip: Should I install grub in Ubuntu partition or doesn't matter?
[17:36] <JaredForTheWin> Looks like you need a file restore program, justpie_togo
[17:36] <Abp> what is jockey? never opened it.
[17:36] <justpie_togo> jaredforthewin : Would you happen to know of one that could recover a specified folder within a specific time frame?
[17:37] <physicist> Tip* ubuntu with kde-full installed runs much better than kubuntu..
[17:37] <Abp> plz tell me how do i make sure that jockey and software centre are closed?
[17:37] <physicist> I'm satisfied..
[17:37] <JaredForTheWin> justpie_togo: no, but Google sure would
[17:38] <physicist> ActionParsnip: Its sdb..
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Physicist: then change the command....
[17:39] <physicist> did it..
[17:39] <Abp> ActionParsnip: plz tell me how do i make sure that jockey and software centre are closed?
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> Abp: you could reboot to be double sure. Are the commands giving warnings?
[17:40] <alex-eeepc> whois _marix
[17:40] <Abp> no.. upgrading...
[17:41] <Abp> once it is done, i'll reboot. wl dat b ok?
[17:41] <JaredForTheWin> abp: if you want to close them, software centre will shutdown on reboot, and jockey can most likely be closed with "kill jockey"
[17:41] <Abp> or should i reboot now?
[17:42] <Abp> now upgrading..
[17:42] <Abp> cant pass command.. else hv to kill this process.
[17:42] <JaredForTheWin> don't reboot
[17:42] <CMz> I have an eth0:1 connection when I type ifconfig. It was added when I added the entry to the "network/interfacse" file. I have removed this entry, restarted, but it still exist when I type ifconfig. How do I delete this?
[17:42] <JaredForTheWin> if you reboot now, the upgrade will be corrupted
[17:43] <Abp> yes..
[17:43] <Abp> :)
[17:44] <physicist> Thank you guys. Have a good day.
[17:45] <Abp> u too , physicist. :)
[17:49] <SourceSlayer> Anyone know why this happened? I boot on to Ubuntu and see something like "loading virtualbox kernel module... [ok]", "Saned disabled; edit /etc/default/saned" and "Checking battery state... [ok]". When these messages appear, I can only see the cursor, I can switch between tty sessions and oddy enough, the cursor is above them, why is this?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> Sourceslayer: what is the outputbof: cat /etc/issue
[17:51] <knightshade> justpie_togo: the modification time and access time is saved in the inode table of the filesystem, and the inode entries are wiped when files are deleted, so it is very unlikely that you will find a tool to recover files within a specific time period
[17:52] <SourceSlayer> ActionParsnip: "Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l"
[17:52] <SourceSlayer> It literally says "\n"
[17:53] <SourceSlayer> and "\l"
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Sourceslayer: thats normal
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Sourceslayer: what video chip do you use?
[17:54] <SourceSlayer> ActionParsnip: Power Buton > About This Computer saysmy Graphics is Unknown. o.0
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Sourceslayer: sudo lshw -C display ,will tell you
[17:56] <SourceSlayer> ActionParsnip: Under product it says "Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller"
[17:56] <SourceSlayer> for "*-display:0"
[17:57] <SourceSlayer> ActionParsnip: I am using a single display laptop and there is also a "*-display:1 UNCLAIMED"
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> Sourceslayer: so an Intel gpu. You may need an xorg.conf file, or try the Xorg update ppa (less fresh more stable)
[17:58] <SourceSlayer> ActionParsnip: Where can I find the most appropriate PPAs?
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> Sourceslayer: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> Sourceslayer: also install ppa-purge so you can roll back
[18:00] <SourceSlayer> Thanks!
[18:04] <toni54321> why mo "softuer & update" dont make any thing?
[18:05] <Darryl> Has anyone setup a Django production server on Ubuntu?
[18:06] <knightshade> Darryl: I'd use virtualenv and install django with pip
[18:06] <Rory> toni54321: Could you re-phrase that?
[18:07] <Darryl> knightshade, Did you setup a production server?
[18:08] <toni54321> yes\
[18:08] <knightshade> Darryl: oh, sorry.. production server.. my fault :-)
[18:08] <Darryl> knightshade, Did you use Apache2 or Nginx?
[18:08] <Guest51777> What is Django?
[18:09] <Rory> !django | Guest51777
[18:09] <Darryl> Guest51777, Django is a Python web framework.
[18:09] <toni54321> my "software & update" dont work
[18:09] <Rory> toni54321: OK, do you get an error message? What do you mean by it doesn't work?
[18:09] <toni54321> no
[18:10] <toni54321> nothing stey
[18:10] <toni54321> nothing hapen
[18:10] <Rory> !details
[18:10] <amireldor> Not using integrated chat in Gnome-shell, so I have an 'offline' icon next to my name on the top right corner. Can it be removed easily?
[18:11] <Guest51777> ahh sounds interesting
[18:12] <toni54321> i click the icon th widow open and stay. i'm usin ubunt 13/10
[18:12] <Rory> toni54321: OK so you can't close it? Could you maybe take a screenshot of what you mean?
[18:13] <Darryl> I want to setup a Django production server on Ubuntu. Can someone help me.
[18:14] <toni54321> i can close it bet when i click revert dont hapen any tjing. i can't do a schren shot
[18:14] <Rory> toni54321: What do you mean by revert?
[18:15] <toni54321> rever or close ar the only opsions in the window
[18:16] <Rory> toni54321: Can you take a screenshot and upload to http://imgur.com
[18:18] <toni54321> no i cant
[18:18] <Rory> ...why not?
[18:19] <Darryl> knightshade, Does virtualenv work directly as production server or Do you have to use a web server?
[18:19] <toni54321> i dont no hiw to do a scheren shot
[18:19] <Rory> toni54321: press the Print Screen button on your keyboard
[18:20] <knightshade> Darryl: No, I was wrong. It's for development only. You should use a webserver for deploying.
[18:21] <Rory> toni54321: Can you update your system by opening a terminal, and running the commands: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:21] <Wiz_KeeD> can i get some help formatting a notebook to have win and ubuntu in dual boot
[18:21] <Wiz_KeeD> ?
[18:21] <knightshade> Darryl: You could ask in #django. The people there should know more
[18:22] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Install Windows first, then allow the Ubuntu installer to resize the Windows partition
[18:23] <gordonjcp> Darryl: virtualenv is not a server
[18:23] <gordonjcp> Darryl: you should use virtualenv both for development *and* production
[18:23] <Darryl> gordonjcp, Sorry my mistake I did not do that much research on virtualenv
[18:23] <gordonjcp> Darryl: virtualenv is a Python virtual environment akin to a chroot
[18:24] <Darryl> :O
[18:24] <Darryl> Did not know that.
[18:24] <gordonjcp> Darryl: you can set up a virtualenv and install one version of some python libraries in it, and different versions of the same libraries in another
[18:24] <gordonjcp> very very handy
[18:24] <Abp> hello JaredForTheWin: i was trying to find pid and kill jockey, in a new tty.. the upgrade was sowing in another tty... suddenly it closed. running new upgrade again.
[18:24] <Darryl> gordonjcp, That sounds cool.
[18:25] <gordonjcp> Darryl: for serving Django apps in production, you should look at the documentation on deployment.  I recommend nginx and uwsgi these days, although I *actually* use apache2
[18:25] <Abp> will it be a trouble?
[18:25] <gordonjcp> and hate it
[18:26] <Wiz_KeeD> Rory, if i do that linux will mess up grub
[18:26] <Wiz_KeeD> and win will start automatically
[18:26] <Datapolitical> anyone in here do customer service?
[18:26] <Rory> !anyone
[18:27] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: What do you currently have on your system?
[18:27] <Wiz_KeeD> nothing Rory
[18:28] <Datapolitical> i need help practicing customer service. I need someone to be a jerk customer
[18:28] <knightshade> o.O
[18:28] <Wiz_KeeD> 700 gb empty un partitioned in win installer
[18:28] <Rory> Datapolitical: This is the Ubuntu support channel, just hang around you'll pick up how to deal with those people
[18:28] <gordonjcp> Datapolitical: that's more for #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:28] <Datapolitical> cool, thanks
[18:29] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Yes. If you allow Windows to install itsself, then boot from the Ubuntu live CD and use the guided partitioning, you will be able to choose between booting Ubuntu and Windows when you start your PC
[18:29] <Abp> hello.. ws finding pid and kill jockey, in a new tty2.. upgrading  was sowing in tty1... tty1 got closed. running new upgrade. any significant damage possible??
[18:29] <JaredForTheWin> Datapotical, please take this to ubuntu-offtopic
[18:30] <Rory> Abp: Probably not; if your package manager was left in an inconsistant state, it wouldn't be able to run the upgrade now
[18:30] <Abp> k. thx.
[18:30] <Rory> Abp: If you get errors from the upgrade just let us know in this chnnel what they are and someone can help you fix them
[18:30] <Wiz_KeeD> Rory, i did that twice
[18:30] <Wiz_KeeD> and it didn't work
[18:30] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Oh, why not?
[18:31] <Wiz_KeeD> i just picked "Install ubuntu next to windows"
[18:31] <Wiz_KeeD> and grub just didn't start
[18:31] <Abp> Rory: ok.. :)
[18:31] <Wiz_KeeD> Any suggestions?
[18:31] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Is that the situation you're currently in?
[18:31] <Wiz_KeeD> And any advice on how I should partition the hardware?
[18:31] <Wiz_KeeD> Rory, hardware is deleted and un partitioned space
[18:31] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Not really, that depends on your specific needs
[18:32] <Wiz_KeeD> in windows
[18:32] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Installing Windows first and then Ubuntu is the canonical way to do it, if you'll pardon the pun
[18:32] <Wiz_KeeD> Rory, I just need to access data on windows from linux and that's it
[18:32] <Wiz_KeeD> haha
[18:32] <Wiz_KeeD> Still won't work if I install windows then ubuntu live cd and then pick the option "Install Ubuntu alongside windows"
[18:33] <Rory> It should work; do that and if it doesn't work come backhere and we'll work out why
[18:34] <Wiz_KeeD> you sure rory? sure I shouldn't pick custom install? and place where grub should be installed?
[18:34] <wollas77> hola
[18:34] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[18:34] <wollas77> !list
[18:35] <Rory> I propose automatically PMing that to anyone who joins from a .it domain
[18:35] <Wiz_KeeD> rory no
[18:35] <toni54321> now i install a nividia driver using "ubuntu softwere center". it's ok?
[18:35] <knightshade> Rory: no, he has only one drive. You have the same idea I had 2 hours ago.. :>
[18:36] <Rory> toni54321: I recommend using the "additional drivers" tool to install drivers
[18:36] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Just install Windows as normal, make sure it gets shut down cleanly
[18:36] <Wiz_KeeD> Rory, 50 gb for drive C in windows
[18:36] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Then install Ubuntu and drag the slider to allocate space between Windows and Ubuntu
[18:36] <Wiz_KeeD> 500 GB for next Drive
[18:36] <toni54321> i dont now what it is?
[18:36] <Wiz_KeeD> and 161 gb of un partitioned space, is that ok?
[18:36] <Rory> toni54321: Open the "Software Sources" program, and click on the "additional drivers" tab
[18:36] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: If that's what you want, then it's OK
[18:36] <wepslame> Will someone help me with my problem? I have a built in Wi-Fi card in my laptop, and i am plugging an external USB Wireless Card (Tenda). I need the external Wireless card because the internal is not capable of packet injection (I am experimenting with cracking my friend's WEP network). The actual problem is that when i turn the kill switch, to turn off my internal Wi-Fi card, the external adapter turns off too. What could be the cause of this? I am strug
[18:36] <wepslame> gling with this problem for a while, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
[18:37] <toni54321> ok
[18:37] <Wiz_KeeD> Rory, isn't that ok? :)
[18:37] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: I can't tell you what you want
[18:37] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Only you know your needs as to how your system should be partitioned
[18:38] <Wiz_KeeD> ok i'll do it like that
[18:38] <wepslame> Will someone help me with my problem? I have a built in Wi-Fi card in my laptop, and i am plugging an external USB Wireless Card (Tenda). I need the external Wireless card because the internal is not capable of packet injection (I am experimenting with cracking my friend's WEP network). The actual problem is that when i turn the kill switch, to turn off my internal Wi-Fi card, the external adapter turns off too (I am not able to get any signal). What coul
[18:38] <wepslame> d be the cause of this? I am struggling with this problem for a while, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
[18:38] <Rory> !patience | wepslame
[18:40] <Rory> wepslame: You don't have to use the hardware kill switch to disable it, you can see the interface names with "ifconfig" and then disable it with "ifdown interface_name"
[18:40] <knightshade> wepslame: I think it's a feature, not a bug :>
[18:41] <Wiz_KeeD> Rory, installing windows
[18:42] <wepslame> Rory: Thanks, i will give it a try now.
[18:43] <wepslame> knightshade: How do you mean a feature?
[18:43] <Rory> wepslame: As in, that's what I'd expect that switch to do
[18:43] <knightshade> Yap
[18:44] <wepslame> Rory: Yeah, but what that switch has to do with any kind of USB hardware that i've plugged into my laptop?
[18:44] <JaredForTheWin> I'm starting to wonder if Rory is actually human, not a bot...
[18:44] <Rory> wepslame: also as a general tip don't come in here mentioning you're trying to crack a network
[18:44] <Rory> JaredForTheWin: what?
[18:47] <toni54321> in the dash i have softuer updater. its ok?
[18:47] <Abp> Rory, "Sorry, installation of this driver failed.  Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log" this was the message."  i had it when came here. ws asked to run fiull upgrade, reboot, kill jockey. found pid of jockey, kill cmd gave "" no such process. hw cn i mk sure jockey is nt running aftr i reboot.?
[18:47] <Rory> Abp: It won't be running after you reboot. Did you look at the file mentioned to see what the issue was?
[18:48] <Rory> Abp: You can view running processes with "ps aux | grep jo[c]key"
[18:48] <Abp> ya. big file.. addtnl driver - broadcom STA wireless ws blockd.
[18:48] <Abp> k. wl do aftr reeboot. thx.
[18:49] <Rory> Abp: Try runnig jockey again after reboot, if it fails put the error log on http://paste.ubuntu.com so I can see
[18:49] <Abp> cmd fr running jockey?
[18:50] <Rory> Abp: I think jockey, or maybe jockey-gtk
[18:50] <Rory> Abp: Or just open it in the GUI by clicking the Drivers tab in Software Sources
[18:50] <Abp> k. wl try. more thngs r upgrading.
[18:50] <Abp> k.
[18:55] <Helasraizam> Hey guys, I've got a Lenovo Z710 with GeForce/integrated graphics (optimus) on a gpt partitioned system consisting of four Windows8 partitions (sda1-4) and 1 Ubuntu13.10 (sda5).  UEFI-enabled/Legacy-supported, no fastboot/secureboot, grub works.  Used to boot to black screen-->added nomodeset to grub, worked for a night and doesn't work anymore.
[18:55] <Helasraizam> ERROR: If Legacy is enabled, boots to black screen with mouse.  If UEFI forced, boots to cmd line, startx gives error (startx gives blackscreen on Legacy).
[18:55] <Helasraizam> How do I fix my blackscreen?
[18:57] <JaredForTheWin> I see your problem.
[18:57] <JaredForTheWin> Windows 8 and UEFI.
[19:00] <Helasraizam> I wouldn't mind some clarification on that.  I'd like a gpt filesystem, and followed Ubuntu's (U)EFI guide.  The installation did work fine for several boots, during which I installed some software (emacs/emacs-related things)
[19:00] <Helasraizam> and btw it seems to freeze on "Loading extension GLX"
[19:00] <streulma> what about resolution on a retina display on Macbook Pro with Ubuntu 13.10 ?
[19:02] <jubale> Can someone help me find the bug that makes software updater say there are updates, yet always say it's up to date when I tell it to update?
[19:04] <Helasraizam> Finally, /var/log/Xorg.0.log gives:
[19:04] <Helasraizam> "Loading Extension GLX **** Fatal server error: ***** (EE) no screens found(EE)"
[19:04] <Helasraizam> (*****=\n; didn't want to get kicked by the ominous floodbots at the top of the room)
[19:04] <WileTheCoyot> hello everyone
[19:05] <Helasraizam> Hello Wile
[19:06] <WileTheCoyot> how could i install the full netbeans ide? i like using it for c/c++, java ee, html5 etc
[19:08] <Helasraizam> https://netbeans.org/downloads/index.html Which one do you want?
[19:09] <WileTheCoyot> is possible to install it using apt-get?
[19:09] <Prollux> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[19:10] <Helasraizam> yep, sudo apt-get install netbeans
[19:10] <Annony> I am currently using windows 7, and I have a 30 gb "free"(unpartitioned) partition, which I would like to install unbutu to. Is there anyway of doing so without burning a cd/dvd ?
[19:11] <Prollux> sorry
[19:11] <WileTheCoyot> Helasraizam: is that one the full?
[19:11] <ggomez91> Annony: Is using an USB an option?
[19:12] <Annony> ggomez91 - nope, too old pc. bios can't boot from usb. not even sure if I can find usb around, but that won't matter anyway.
[19:13] <Annony> is there really no way of booting ubuntu installer from hard drive?
[19:13] <ggomez91> Annony: what about wubi? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
[19:13] <bekks> ggomez91: Wubi discountinued support.
[19:13] <Annony> ggomez91 - it's not really unbutu, nor really booting :\ not to mention it is dropped since version 13, and only support 12.04
[19:13] <bekks> ggomez91: It is just for taking a short glance, not for regular use.
[19:14] <Annony> Is there no way of booting from an hard drive or something like that?
[19:14] <Helasraizam> Wile: Looking that up--but know that the version in the repositories is 7.0.1 while the latest is 7.3, so you may want to download it
[19:15] <wepslame> When i am trying to turn off the internal wireless card, with the command "ifdown wlan0", the output is: ifdown: interface wlan0 not configured
[19:16] <wepslame> When i am trying to turn off the internal wireless card, with the command "ifdown wlan0", the output is: ifdown: interface wlan0 not configured. What could the problem be?
[19:16] <Wiz_KeeD> Rory, windows is installed and running now running ubuntu live cd
[19:16] <Wiz_KeeD> What do you suggest?
[19:17] <Abp> bye.. going to reboot. thx.
[19:18] <llutz> wepslame: "sudo ifconfig wlan0 down"    ifdown only works with interfaces configure in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:18] <Annony> m.. wait, can I install ubuntu on the "new" partition, using wubi?
[19:19] <Earlo> I am trying to install Ubuntu, but in installation, my mouse or keyboard aren't able to send any outputs to the computer, thus making installing impossible.
[19:19] <Earlo> I got amd processr, could this cause it?
[19:20] <Prollux> I love ubuntu
[19:20] <Prollux> I love lamp
[19:20] <tharkun> And the question is?
[19:20] <Guest51777> I remember LAMP what was it again?
[19:21] <llutz> Annony: there is a way to convert a wubi-installation into a regular install later.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/635/how-to-convert-wubi-install-into-regular-install
[19:21] <Prollux> why do you have to ask a question
[19:21] <Prollux> how's that for a question
[19:21] <tharkun> Because this is a support channel?
[19:21] <Prollux> no
[19:21] <Prollux> it's because you're gay
[19:21] <remu> I'm having a really weird issue with NFS. On my NFS server I have /mnt/strg1/Movies and /mnt/strg1/TV. These are bind mounted to /export/Movies and /export/TVShows. When I ls either of the two export directories I see the files I expect. When I try to mount ip:/export/Movies to temp, ls reports the correct files. However when I try to mount ip:/export/TVShows to temp2, ls reports the same files as temp.
[19:22] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> hey guys ive downloaded a firefox nightly build on ubuntu, however the firefox icon (mozicon) isnt showing  where is the directory for firefox icons?
[19:22] <tharkun> DJones: Regular troll?
[19:22] <remu> I was initially trying to access these NFS shares using XBMC and regardless of the share I chose it always showed me the content of /mnt/strg1/Movies. Which is when I started to try mounting locally to see what the result would be.
[19:23] <k1l_> tharkun: yes, dont mind the trolls :)
[19:23] <DJones> tharkun: Yep
[19:23] <Helasraizam> Sorry Wile, nobody in the forums seems to support installing netbeans from apt-get, since it's 3 sub-versions behind (7.0 in the repos, 7.3 online), so I recommend you just install it from the webpage like it says, making sure to install java jdk and java..  If you really want to install it from apt-get (or synaptic), it looks like the libraries are called libnb-..., which you could do a search on.  Still, I suggest getting it on
[19:23] <tharkun> Sorry for feeding it.
[19:25] <WileTheCoyot> Helasraizam: thanks
[19:27] <jubale> Ubuntu keeps saying there is 13MB update available, but when I tell it to update it says system is up to date.
[19:29] <mati75> hello
[19:29] <mati75> I looking for someone ubuntu user
[19:30] <Rory> mati75: This is the Ubuntu support channel, do you have a support question?
[19:30] <sasha^> Hai, just wondering, is it possible to use multiple Raspbian installations with berryboot?
[19:30] <Rory> jubale: What happens when you run in a terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:30] <fishor> hello all, i use ubuntu 13.10 and right not discovered that hotkays for copy/past (ctrl-c/ctrl-v) and many others are not working. Do any one other has this issues? are there some bug repports or worarounds?
[19:31] <Rory> fishor: Are they not working in every single application?
[19:31] <mati75> sasha^: you can install raspdian by dd
[19:31] <sasha^> so that I can have different things run when it starts up automatically, e.g. use one install as a wireless projector interface (airplay & vnc), and another install as a LED controller
[19:31] <jubale> apt-get update has a few things it can't get, upgrade says everything is upgraded.
[19:31] <Rory> sasha^: This is Ubuntu support I think you accidentally went to the wrong channel
[19:31] <mati75> Rory: I'm Debian DD and need result of one command from Ubuntu
[19:32] <sasha^> Yes but it's a linuxy channel Rory :3
[19:32] <Abp> hi.. Rory there?
[19:32] <sasha^> if someone wants to unban be from #raspberrypi I'll be fine with that too
[19:32] <Wiz_KeeD> Rory, I installed it next to windows and it boots directly into windows...
[19:32] <Wiz_KeeD> Could this be because of UEFI crap?
[19:32] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Can you try running the boot repair app from a Live CD https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:32] <Rory> sasha^: Try ##linux
[19:33] <Rory> mati75: Ask your question
[19:33] <mati75> dpkg-vendor --query vendor
[19:33] <fishor> Rory, yes, in every single app: gnote, libreoffice,
[19:33] <bekks> mati75: "Ubuntu"
[19:33] <mati75> bekks: ok, thanks
[19:33] <Helasraizam> Anyone good with Xorg?  booting to "(EE) no screens found(EE)"
[19:34] <fishor> Rory, it feels like ctrl is not working
[19:34] <Guest51777> whats the difference between DPKG and Apt?
[19:34] <Abp> Rory: rebooted sys. wireless adapter is showing. but can not connect to net. broadcom STA wireless driver trouble. done upgrading.
[19:34] <Rory> Guest51777: dpkg is the program which installs .deb packages. apt is a package manager which deals with dependncies, versions etc
[19:34] <Rory> Abp: Do you see your network in the list?
[19:34] <Guest51777> ah ok thanks
[19:34] <Rory> !apt | Guest51777
[19:34] <sefrus> Why is acleandir not provided with netatalk package like everything I read says it should be? Running 13.10
[19:34] <Abp> ya.
[19:34] <Abp> the ssid is showing.
[19:35] <Rory> Abp: And what happens when you try to connect?
[19:35] <j0chn> hi
[19:35] <j0chn> i have a problem connectin gmy galaxy nexus to ubuntu 12.04
[19:35] <Abp> i added new connection. the encryption in modem is WAP-WPA2 personal wid passphrase. only option showing here is
[19:35] <j0chn> im using android 4.3 on the smartphone
[19:35] <Abp> ; WEP
[19:36] <j0chn> and it already worked twice (connecting phone to ubuntu) and suddenly it does not
[19:36] <Rory> Abp: Rather than adding a new connection manually, can you select your network from the list of networks which appears?
[19:36] <Wiz_KeeD> Rory, did that before and it made the grub thing show two entries
[19:36] <Abp> whenever attempted to connect.. msg: "DISCONNECTED"
[19:36] <j0chn> I activated usb debugging reseted m y phone
[19:36] <j0chn> and I don't know what else to do
[19:37] <Abp> ok.. deleting the created one and trying.
[19:37] <Rory> Abp: Can you please paste the output of the command "lspci -v" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[19:37] <Rory> j0chn: Are you getting an error?
[19:37] <Abp> sure.
[19:37] <Wiz_KeeD> Why doesn't it show after 3 installs Rory ?
[19:37] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: In your BIOS, what is the boot order?
[19:38] <Wiz_KeeD> Hard-drive and dvd
[19:38] <Abp> Rory: huge o/t .. any particular section?
[19:38] <Wiz_KeeD> and no cd is inside, and no other hard-drive
[19:39] <Rory> Abp: install pastebinit (sudo apt-get install pastebinit) then run "lspci -v | pastebinit"
[19:39] <Abp> k.
[19:39] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Humour me; run boot repair now and tell me what options are on your Grub menu
[19:39] <Wiz_KeeD> so I should run the live-cd Rory ?
[19:39] <j0chn> @Rory: no nothing happens
[19:39] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Yes follow the instructions in the wiki link I gave you
[19:39] <fishor> Rory, Abp, for short time there was issue with apparmor, it blocked dhclient
[19:40] <j0chn> no messasge no blinking or ound
[19:40] <Rory> j0chn: On your phone can you go to settings -> storage then press Menu and select USB Computer Connection
[19:40] <Rory> j0chn: If there is an option there for USB Mass Storage, select it
[19:41] <Abp> hv run. only the link came up dat u gave.
[19:41] <j0chn> "Media Device (MTP)
[19:41] <j0chn> already selected
[19:41] <j0chn> I wonder because it has already been detected by ubuntu (lsusb) and adb (adb devices)
[19:41] <Rory> j0chn: Is this after an Android version upgrade? What version did you upgrade from and to?
[19:42] <j0chn> I did not upgrade it. It is Android 4.3 and I just reseted it to initial settings.
[19:43] <j0chn> (Factory Data Reset)
[19:43] <Rory> Abp: OK so what is the link?
[19:44] <Abp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6536822/
[19:44] <j0chn> And I copied a rule (51-android.rules) with subystem usb Mode 0666 and a lot of vendor IDs
[19:44] <Wiz_KeeD> Rory, ok I will, doesn't explain why it doesn't work out of the box as it did on my other notebook :(
[19:44] <Rory> j0chn: Out of interest, can you try as a different user, or as the guest user?
[19:45] <Rory> !uefi | Wiz_KeeD this might help explain
[19:45] <j0chn> w8
[19:45] <Rory> Abp: What is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[19:46] <Abp> geting u..
[19:46] <ABC> if i install ubuntu 13.10 with a internet cable conected nvidia and ather driver are downloaded automaticly????????????
[19:46] <Abp> Rory:  Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[19:46] <Rory> ABC: Not automatically but you can install them from Additional Drivers after installation
[19:47] <ABC> wherw i can find that
[19:47] <ABC> ?
[19:47] <j0chn> how do i login as guest?
[19:47] <j0chn> i want to use "alt + ctrl + f6" to log in
[19:47] <Wiz_KeeD> Ok i'm starting to make sense of it
[19:47] <j0chn> but I am asked for a password I did not set
[19:47] <Wiz_KeeD> But the thing is I had not made any changes in bios/uefi between installs
[19:48] <Wiz_KeeD> Which is pretty strange Rory to be honest
[19:48] <Wiz_KeeD> And I don't see any option like that in bios :(
[19:48] <Rory> ABC: It's a tab in the Software Sources program
[19:48] <ABC> in the dash?
[19:48] <Rory> j0chn: Every account has a password, you'll just have to remember harder
[19:48] <Rory> ABC: Yes open the program Software Sources
[19:48] <j0chn> I just set a PW for the account I am using atm
[19:49] <ABC> ok
[19:49] <Rory> j0chn: Oh I see, I don't think you can log in as the guest in a terminal like that
[19:49] <Wiz_KeeD> I can tell it boots in EFI mode Rory since I get that different screen
[19:50] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: OK what's your current situation? You have Ubuntu and Windows installed now?
[19:50] <Abp> Rory: output of: cat /etc/issue -- Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[19:50] <Wiz_KeeD> Both Rory, just grub is not starting
[19:50] <Wiz_KeeD> booting directly to windows
[19:50] <Wiz_KeeD> Did not get a chance to install the boot repair thing
[19:50] <sean_> Hello, i'm trying to debug my .xsession / x-session-manager. My goal is to turn on my PC and have ~/.xsession run. This file contains 'exec i3' for my window manager. I'm not sure how to begin debugging this, but right now the screen goes black after grub and the Ubuntu logo. I have to ctrl+alt+f1 to command-line then I can run 'startx' to get to 'i3'. Any help is appreciated!
[19:50] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: OK I'll wait
[19:51] <Wiz_KeeD> So no further investigating, run that?
[19:51] <Rory> Ironman: Yes please
[19:51] <Wiz_KeeD> Isn't it better to try to turn off uefi or smth?
[19:51] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: ^
[19:51] <Rory> (sorry Ironman )
[19:51] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: If you can, then do
[19:52] <j0chn> Rory: I switch the terminal and logged in as another user. But the phone is not detected too
[19:52] <Rory> Abp: Can you do a full upgrade including the kernel by running: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:52] <Abp> ok.
[19:55] <j0chn> Rory: Should I delete the 51-android.rules?
[19:56] <Abp> Rory: done. all 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to removed and 0 not upgraded.
[19:57] <Wiz_KeeD> Aparently, I cannot maybe I need to make a bios update
[19:57] <Guardian1> does sudo apt-get update touch all installed packages too?
[19:57] <Guardian1> or just the distro
[19:58] <k1l_> Guardian1: all packages that are installed with the packages system. not packages that you did download yourself
[19:58] <pvl1> how can i see what options a package was compiled with
[19:59] <bekks> pvl1: technically, you cant.
[20:01] <j0chn> Rory?
[20:04] <SonikkuAmerica> j0chn: I assume you checked in Nautilus to see if it was listed there?
[20:05] <js2n> exit
[20:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Wiz_KeeD: What? So you installed Ubuntu on a UEFI machine and it just loads Windows directly instead?
[20:05] <SonikkuAmerica> js2n: Try /quit
[20:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Wiz_KeeD: And if so, are you in the Live environment now?
[20:06] <j0chn> SonikkuAmerica: unfortunatly nothing happens
[20:07] <SonikkuAmerica> j0chn: I didn't ask you that... I asked, did you open Nautilus (the "Files" application) and check the side bar under Devices?
[20:07] <j0chn> Yes!
[20:07] <SonikkuAmerica> j0chn: OK. Good. Is USB debugging turned on?
[20:07] <j0chn> Yes
[20:08] <SonikkuAmerica> j0chn: That's usually the problem... depending on the device, sometimes if the debugger is on, it won't connect as a mass storage device.
[20:08] <j0chn> I just wonder because it already has been detected
[20:09] <j0chn> And suddenly nothing happens anymore
[20:09] <SonikkuAmerica> j0chn: Nothing as in adb commands don't work, or nothing as in you can't access it as a storage device?
[20:10] <SonikkuAmerica> (Hard to believe, 2 types of nothing)
[20:11] <SonikkuAmerica> j0chn: ^ (by the way, you can use [ adb pull ] and [ adb push ] to receive and send files in debugging mode, respectively)
[20:13] <j0chn> I did not get your question. Because english is not my native language. But if I got you right: My adb commands do not work because adb devices does not list any devices and no I can't access it as storage device.
[20:16] <Abp> hi.. ne1 to help me connecting with wireless?
[20:16] <Helasraizam> Anyone up for troubleshooting a blackscreen?
[20:17] <_Trullo> screensaver?
[20:17] <Helasraizam> haha no such luck, unless it boots to a command prompt screensaver
[20:18] <Wiz_KeeD> Rory, configurigng grub-pc
[20:19] <Wiz_KeeD> the dev/sda on the harddrive or dev/sda5
[20:19] <Wiz_KeeD> whish is where linux would be, i assume i pick the first one
[20:19] <ikonia> why are you manually configuring grub
[20:19] <ikonia> the installer will do that for you
[20:20] <Abp> Wiz_Keed , Rory has gone.. r u using 12.04?
[20:21] <Abp> Rory is nt replying for long.
[20:22] <wad> After editing /etc/default/grub, I ran "update-grub". Should I have run "update-grub2" instead? Ubuntu 13.10.
[20:22] <Abp> my terminal is getting half hidden after restoring from taskbar.
[20:24] <Wiz_KeeD> Rory, grub now starts but I have two windows loaders on sda1 and sda2
[20:24] <Wiz_KeeD> now what?
[20:24] <[deXter]|> Hi folks, looking at sources.list, is http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu saucy-security   the same as http://ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/saucy-security/  ?
[20:24] <antithesis_> It occurred to me that Ubuntu gives all the credit to Linux and none to GNU, so I came up with the idea of renaming it to GNUbuntu. What'ya all think? :)
[20:24] <Wiz_KeeD> Abp, sorry didn't see that
[20:24] <Wiz_KeeD> Yes i am usint 12.04
[20:25] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, I have uefi crap on my notebook and I installed windows first, then ubuntu alongside windows by leaving some space unpartitioned
[20:25] <Abp> WHOIS Wiz_KeeD
[20:25] <Wiz_KeeD> and then it boots directly into windows
[20:25] <[deXter]|> Basically I want to replace security.ubuntu.com with a local mirror, so I was wondering how to go about doing that
[20:25] <Wiz_KeeD> I'm Paul :) nice to meet you
[20:26] <[deXter]|> Is there a way I can browse the file listing of security.ubuntu.com via a web browser?
[20:26] <Wiz_KeeD> idk what it did or what happened to be honest but...
[20:26] <k1l_> !apt-mirror | [deXter]
[20:27] <[deXter]|> ?
[20:27] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, did I proceed in the correct manner?
[20:27] <k1l_> [deXter]: maybe that is what you want: http://apt-mirror.github.io/
[20:28] <[deXter]|> No that's not what I want k1l_
[20:28] <[deXter]|> I want to browse the contents of security.ubuntu.com so that I can compare with a different mirror, so that I can replace it in my sources.list
[20:28] <j0chn> Back to my usb connecting problem: I tried it with my galaxy s2 and that worked fine
[20:30] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: still shouldn't need to apply grub menually
[20:30] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, that is what the tutorial suggested
[20:30] <Wiz_KeeD> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[20:30] <Wiz_KeeD> or what do you mean?
[20:30] <Abp> hello.. Done upgrading..  wireless nt connecting.
[20:30] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: "boot repair"
[20:30] <Abp> jockey not running.
[20:31] <Fabolicious> hiii eveyone
[20:31] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, yes that's what I said myself but people here all suggested the same thing, it should not be needed since it worked perfectly on my other notebook with the same partitioning
[20:31] <Wiz_KeeD> what can I do?
[20:32] <ikonia> look at why it's failing
[20:32] <ikonia> that well help you understand the failure and how to fix it
[20:33] <PatrickDickey> Wiz_KeeD: When you go into BootRepair, under the Advanced tab, you can set it up to boot in UEFI mode there.
[20:33] <Wiz_KeeD> how do I do that? well...it's a bit late now
[20:33] <Wiz_KeeD> it's already installed and i'm updating the system
[20:33] <PatrickDickey> !UEFI | Wiz_KeeD This page (if the bot has one) will tell you about it.
[20:33] <PatrickDickey> !uefi | Wiz_KeeD This page (if the bot has one) will tell you about it.
[20:34] <Wiz_KeeD> PatrickDickey, so I needn't go through the proccess of reinstralling just setting up uefi? why doesn't it do that automatically? all notebooks after 2011 have it...
[20:34] <Wiz_KeeD> !uefi
[20:34] <Wiz_KeeD> yeah read about that a bit
[20:35] <PatrickDickey> Well if your laptop is like mine, the Ubuntu Live CD won't boot (graphics issues on mine) in UEFI Mode. So you have to install in BIOS Legacy mode, and use the steps there to fix it.
[20:35] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: my notebook is post 2011 and doesn't have it
[20:35] <Wiz_KeeD> Note: Some BIOSes (e.g. American Megatrends' "Aptio", found on the Asus vivobook series) call Legacy mode "Compatibility Support Module" or simply "CSM".
[20:35]  * PatrickDickey can't even get Windows 7 to boot in UEFI mode... Stupid Toshiba laptops. :S
[20:35] <Wiz_KeeD> I do have american megatrends and asus indeed but no such setting, maybe I should update bios?
[20:36] <Wiz_KeeD> At least i'm not alone PatrickDickey
[20:36] <Wiz_KeeD> no such settings to boot in bio/legagy etc
[20:36] <PatrickDickey> Wiz_KeeD: If you scroll over to Advanced, the bottom most entry (System Configuration?) Is where it's located.
[20:36] <Wiz_KeeD> you are talking about the bootloader now PatrickDickey ?
[20:36] <PatrickDickey> Nope. In BIOS.
[20:37] <PatrickDickey> What I ended up trying (and I'm still trying it) is to install Ubuntu Server in UEFI mode, and then add the desktop later.
[20:40] <Helasraizam> I just installed with gpt/(u)efi; this helped a lot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[20:41] <Wiz_KeeD> PatrickDickey, I will try but I doubt i will have such a setting
[20:41] <Wiz_KeeD> So what should I be looking for exactly?
[20:42] <k0d3g3ar> quiet here
[20:42] <daftykins> k0d3g3ar: shh you woke me up. do you have a question?
[20:43] <Wiz_KeeD> Ok PatrickDickey, over in advanced in bios/uefi whatever it's called
[20:43] <k0d3g3ar> yes what is the air speed if unladenbswallow?
[20:44] <daftykins> air speed of an unladen swallow?
[20:44] <daftykins> well is it an african swallow or...?
[20:44] <PatrickDickey> k0d3g3ar: African or European?
[20:44] <Wiz_KeeD> POSt logo type, start easy flash, play psost sound, internal pointing device, wke on lid open, power of energy saving asus usb charger+ in battery mode, intel virtualization technology intel aes-ni, sata configuration, graphics configuration, intel anti-theft technology, usb confi, network stack
[20:44] <Wiz_KeeD> that's all
[20:44] <k0d3g3ar> lol
[20:44] <PatrickDickey> Wiz_KeeD: What are the tabs at the top of the BIOS window?
[20:45] <tgm4883> If the "additional drivers" isn't picking up my graphics card, should I just install the correct driver from the repo or is there something else I need to do (or alternatively, should I install the driver from nvidia)?
[20:45] <Wiz_KeeD> Main, Advanced, Boot, Security, Save & Exit
[20:45] <Wiz_KeeD> that's it
[20:45] <Wiz_KeeD> Main has just time and date nothing else
[20:45] <daftykins> tgm4883: prioritise the repo ones to try first
[20:46] <PatrickDickey> Wiz_KeeD: And under Advanced, you have what you listed above, right? What's under Boot?
[20:47] <Wiz_KeeD> Launch PXE OpROM - disabled
[20:47] <Wiz_KeeD> Boot option priorities with boot option 1 p0: toshiba blabla (hdd)
[20:47] <Wiz_KeeD> boot option 2 P2: Matshita dvd-rom (optical drive)
[20:47] <Wiz_KeeD> CD/DVD Rom drive bbs priorities
[20:47] <Wiz_KeeD> and Hard Drive BBS priorities
[20:47] <PatrickDickey> Ok, which asus model is your laptop?
[20:47] <Wiz_KeeD> also delete boot option
[20:48] <FloodBot1> Wiz_KeeD: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:48] <Wiz_KeeD> Asus R501VB-S3116D
[20:48] <tgm4883> daftykins, ok, will do. shutting down lightdm and installing nvidia-319-updates now
[20:48] <adamu> Hello
[20:52] <PatrickDickey> Wiz_KeeD: When you boot up, hit F12, and if you get a Boot Menu, see if you have the option to boot in both UEFI or CSM (Legacy) mode. If you do, it will look like UEFI Boot to CD-ROM and then Boot to CD-ROM (or something like that).
[20:54] <Wiz_KeeD> PatrickDickey, i remember trying f12 nothing happend
[20:55] <PatrickDickey> You might need to update your BIOS then. See if one of their updates adds that capability or not.
[20:55] <Wiz_KeeD> hmm opens  bios but no new options
[20:56] <ABC> hi
[20:56] <Wiz_KeeD> It is updated but there is no mention of the changes...
[20:56] <PatrickDickey> Wiz_KeeD: Under one of your tabs, do you see something like Intel Rapid Storage Technology?
[20:56] <ABC> whe i cen download the nvidia driver for ubuntu 13-10
[20:57] <Wiz_KeeD> PatrickDickey, Intel Virtualization Technology
[20:58] <PatrickDickey> Wiz_KeeD: Have you disabled "Fast Startup" in Windows 8?
[20:58] <rasu> hello. Is there any way to run a script at a specific date and time like 2015-12-09 11:15
[20:58] <Wiz_KeeD> Where in windows 8?
[20:58] <knightshade> !cron | rasu
[20:59] <wepslame> Can someone recommend me a channel dedicated to Wireless Networking, Encryptions and similar things? Thanks in advance.
[20:59] <Rallias> So... uhm... is there a way to tell exactly what motherboard I have on my Ubuntu machine?
[20:59] <ABC> where i can download the nvidia driver for ubuntu 13-10
[20:59] <ABC> ?
[20:59] <Wiz_KeeD> I also have a tab system setup in grub
[20:59] <rasu> knightshade: can i set year in cron??
[21:00] <bekks> ABC: it is in the repos: apt-cache search nvidia
[21:00] <esde> i've used ssh keygen on the "local machine" to create my SSH Key Pair and then i used ssh-copy-id to copy the public key into the "remote host" and then I changed PermitRootLogin to without-password and tried to login, as per this tut and it's still asking for my password https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-ssh-keys--2 oh and i restarted ssh on the remote machine too
[21:00] <PatrickDickey> Wiz_KeeD: Under Control Panel, Power Options, What does the power button do.
[21:00] <adamu> ABC, You can also download it from the NVIDIA website its under NVIDIA Unix Drivers
[21:00] <Wiz_KeeD> In windows PatrickDickey ?
[21:00] <ABC> how i can di it
[21:00] <Wiz_KeeD> Is this even os specific?
[21:00] <knightshade> wepslame: #linux-wireless
[21:00] <Rallias> esde, Did you do an service ssh restart ?
[21:01] <ABC> ok it work i think
[21:01] <PatrickDickey> Wiz_KeeD: Yes. That's where you disable Fast Startup. Then in BIOS, make sure you disabled Secure Boot.
[21:01] <adamu> ABC, http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[21:01] <bekks> ABC: apt-cache search nvidia; then install the driver supporting your hardware.
[21:01] <Wiz_KeeD> PatrickDickey, tghere is no such thing as secure booti n my bios
[21:02] <Wiz_KeeD> Either way, what's the difference since I've updated grub now?
[21:02] <PatrickDickey> Wiz_KeeD: So, you can boot to either Windows or Linux now?
[21:02] <Wiz_KeeD> PatrickDickey, after running the bootloader thing yes
[21:03] <Wiz_KeeD> My question was: 1.why did i need to do that? adn 2.why do I have two windows startups?
[21:03] <PatrickDickey> Good deal then. :)
[21:03] <ABC> ok now i'm on the nvidia site and i have an amd 64
[21:03] <rasu> hello. Is there any way to run a script at a specific date and time like 2015-12-09 11:15 in cron i dont think i can set the year.
[21:03] <PatrickDickey> ABC: Then you want a driver that's x86_64 or just plain 64-bit.
[21:04] <_dib_> When I do CTRL+ALT+1, and get to tty1, I login as root and do startx, then I go to CTRL+ALT+7, to get to my normal account. But when I go back to CTRL+ALT+1, I have to do CTRL+ALT+Z and then startx again
[21:04] <_dib_> Is there a way to just resume it?
[21:04] <_dib_> Because it seems to still be running
[21:04] <esde> yes
[21:04] <esde> Rallias, yes
[21:04] <adamu> rasu, x86-64 = amd64
[21:04] <ABC> long version?
[21:05] <Wiz_KeeD> PatrickDickey, you mean to say that I needn't do all that bootloader fixing thing and I could just uncheck that option?
[21:05] <Wiz_KeeD> And it would have shown grub?
[21:05] <PatrickDickey> rasu: In your crontab, it should show you the format. Put the time in in that format. like 11 15 00 12 09 2015 /script-to-run
[21:06] <PatrickDickey> Wiz_KeeD: You had to do it, because GRUB probably installed in CSM mode, not UEFI mode (which is why it would boot right to Windows). As for the two windows startups, I'm not sure.
[21:06] <_dib_> Does anyone have an answer to my question? Before it goes out of sight.
[21:06] <Wiz_KeeD> Then what is the point of disabling the fast startup PatrickDickey ?
[21:07] <PatrickDickey> Wiz_KeeD: Because when you start up from a cold boot (powered off), Windows will just start itself. It hibernates (more or less) instead of actually shutting down.
[21:08] <PatrickDickey> Wiz_KeeD: So, in other words, with Fast Startup enabled, it bypasses the bootloader altogether.
[21:08] <rasu> PatrickDickey: in my crontab i can see minute hour dayofmonth month dayofweak
[21:09] <PatrickDickey> rasu, then I'm not sure if you can set it for a particular year. Plus, I'm not sure why you'd want to run a script one time in the future (at least one time that's further out than one year from today).
[21:09] <Wiz_KeeD> PatrickDickey, yet it didn't bypass grub at any time
[21:10] <ABC> now i'm downloading, whe finish what i have to do?
[21:12] <tgm4883> daftykins, that seems to have worked great, other than now I've run the unigine heaven benchmark and want a second video card for SLI :)
[21:12] <rasu> PatrickDickey: i dont know if i will use it but i want to have the possibility
[21:12] <adamu> ABC, Not for Ubuntu but should be helpful http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/centos-nvidia.html
[21:12] <rasu> PatrickDickey: do you know if theres any other whay than cron?
[21:12] <PatrickDickey> Wiz_KeeD: Well if it's still enabled, I'd say that grub loaded the windows bootloader, which basically started up from hibernation.
[21:12] <Wiz_KeeD> ouch!
[21:13] <PatrickDickey> rasu: I'm not sure. I don't think they intended it to be used that far in the future, because you can't guarantee that the script (or even the computer) will still be available then.
[21:13] <hassen_> is Opera available for ubuntu?
[21:13] <kostkon> hassen_, yes
[21:13] <daftykins> tgm4883: haha - SLI isn't that great imo, better to have a newer single-card
[21:13] <_dib_> hassen, you know you can just check that yourself, right?
[21:14] <tgm4883> daftykins, I've got a GTX 760, but I just found the tessellation option in this benchmark and it makes it look amazing. Takes my FPS from 30 to 15-18 though
[21:15] <daftykins> hehe
[21:18] <Wiz_KeeD> PatrickDickey, it's also scanning and reparigin drive d every time when loading windows wtf
[21:19] <kal_> hi how can i take copy all the mysql folder with its database and tables to store it in another pc?
[21:19] <sveinse> Not so sure this is the right channel: Doesn't the ubuntu ld support --sysroot? Any toolchain ppl around? It sais it does, but after spending hours debugging, I still picks up libs from the system and not from sysroot
[21:20] <PatrickDickey> Wiz_KeeD: Fast Startup. ;) Do you just have Windows 8 and Linux, or do you have Windows 8, Windows 7/Vista, and Linux?
[21:20] <Wiz_KeeD> win 8 and linux
[21:20] <adamu> kal_, Try the mysqldump tool
[21:21] <PatrickDickey> And what is Drive D? Is it a data drive, that's shared between both of them?
[21:21] <kal_> adamu: how?
[21:22] <adamu> kal_, https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+to+use+mysqldump+on+linux
[21:22] <PatrickDickey> Basically, Wiz_KeeD, if you have Fast Startup enabled, and boot to anything other than Windows 8, the next time you boot to it, it realizes that something changed on one of the drives (because your other operating system loaded the drive). So it does a checkdisk on it.
[21:23] <anish[1]> Today I upgraded to 13.10 my welcome screen is not coming but my terminal is working.Please help.
[21:23] <anish[1]> It doesn't show anything on the screen but my terminal works.
[21:24] <PatrickDickey> anish[1]: try startx and see if that loads. If it doesn't, then it should give you an error message.
[21:24] <anish[1]> let me try
[21:25] <kostkon> anish[1], try  sudo service lightdm start
[21:25] <esde> http://pastebin.com/6H1G5rgA shouldnt the pub key be id_rsa.pub and private by id_rsa?
[21:25] <anish[1]> it gave "Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to to X server"
[21:25] <anish[1]> Let me try what koston said
[21:26] <anish[1]> koston: job is already running
[21:26] <anish[1]> I am getting that.
[21:26] <anish[1]> PatrickDickye: when i ran that command it gave me that warning and blank screen again got started
[21:27] <ABC> i dowload the long version but when i run it show onli a empty indow. now i'm dowloading the short version
[21:27] <adamu> ABC, empty window?
[21:28] <ABC> yes open a window and dot show nothing inside
[21:28] <adamu> ABC, did you chmod +x NVIDIA*.run && ./NVIDIA*.run
[21:28] <anish[1]> I don't know why after updating to 13.10 I am getting blank screen.Let me try starting X11 .
[21:29] <ABC> no i click on th e downloaded file
[21:29] <ABC> and it run
[21:30] <Beldar> anish[1], Have you tried a nomodeset boot from the grub menu?
[21:30] <adamu> ABC, Oh run it from the terminal window it should work then
[21:30] <anish[1]> Beldar: how to do that?
[21:30] <MannerMan> Hi there, I have recently installed Ubuntu 13.10 on a ASUS ZenBook, and everything is working fine except the touchpad's rightclick button. Two finger scroll, click-and-drag etc all work just fine, but not rightclick from the button. I have tried the solutions provided here; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AsusZenbookPrime#Touchpad without success. Any ideas?
[21:30] <ABC> ok can u giv me the comand?
[21:31] <adamu> ABC, ./NVIDIA*.run
[21:31] <Beldar> !nomodeset | anish[1]
[21:31] <Beldar> anish[1], Graphic drivers may not follow a distro upgrade.
[21:32] <anish[1]> Beldar: ok let me try this option
[21:33] <ABC> yes i'm usin mow nomodeset. what can i do for  runig the driver from hte termimal
[21:33] <MannerMan> In xinput, the touchpad is identified as ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad
[21:34] <Beldar> anish[1], also check post 3 here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1968492
[21:35] <Beldar> states 12.04 but still usable
[21:35] <arooni-mobile> for some reason on ubuntu 13.10 i cannot use the left shift key + control combo (nothing happens).  i would expect to be able to be able to highlight different things.  any idea why this isn't working?
[21:35] <adamu> ABC, run the NVIDIA driver from the terminal as root then it should blacklist nouveau (if you have nouveau loaded I assume you do) then you will have to reboot and then run the NVIDIA installer and it should work
[21:35] <anish[1]> Beldar: i actually don't know how to use grub.Now I am on my grub and i gave acpi_osi=         but i don't know how to boot the kernel after that.
[21:36] <anish[1]> Beldar: so i am reading about it.
[21:37] <acer_> hello everyone.  I recently re-installed ubuntu 12.04, and I can no longer use Shift+Enter as a shortcut key-combination (I get the message that the combo is too generic).  Is there any way to override that?
[21:37] <Beldar> anish[1], I believe the boot from there is ctrl-x could be wrong, in that grub e for edit you would insert nomodeset than boot, do you know the graphic hardware you have?
[21:37] <anish[1]> Beldar: yes nvidiea
[21:38] <ABC> how caan i run it from hte terminal? what i have to write?
[21:39] <Beldar> anish[1], figured as such, nvidia drivers do not follow a distro upgrade in general, did you use a ppa for it or a proprietary driver
[21:39] <anish[1]> Beldar: i bought this notebook with ubuntu installed.
[21:40] <anish[1]> Beldar: so whenever i used to update it used to work automatically.
[21:40] <arooni-mobile> how can i figure out which app is getting bound do a specific key combination?
[21:40] <Beldar> anish[1], Ah, new?, what was the manufacturer?
[21:40] <anish[1]> Beldar: but i am getting power off ubuntu screen.
[21:40] <anish[1]> Beldar: dell
[21:41] <Beldar> anish[1], Cool, so you have distro upgraded before?
[21:41] <anish[1]> Beldar: no, I upgraded myself by just clicking on ubuntu screen.
[21:41] <ABC> how can i run nvidia from hte terminal? what i have to write?
[21:42] <Beldar> anish[1], I Mean you have on this computer upgraded from one release to another before?
[21:42] <anish[1]> Beldar: yes
[21:43] <money> hi i have a webcam but it dont recognize by skype what can i do
[21:43] <Beldar> anish[1], No problems in the past? Also did you add a ppa for this nvidia or use the proprietary graphic driver?
[21:43] <bekks> money: which ubuntu do you use?
[21:43] <money> the newest ubuntu
[21:44] <anish[1]> Beldar: i used propertietay graphics driver.There was no problem before.
[21:44] <ABC> exsist any softwer for downloadin and installin all the drivers
[21:44] <ABC> ?
[21:44] <Beldar> anish[1], the proprietary offered by ubuntu or from the nvidia website?
[21:44] <anish[1]> Beldar: so i tried using recovery mode and failsafe option and it now shows "the system is running in low graphics mdoe"
[21:45] <[deXter]|> Hi all, does anyone know how to display the FPS when playing a video using mplayer2 / mpv ?
[21:45] <JOptionPane> need android iso for a vm.....
[21:45] <money> how can i make my webcam work on skype with my ubuntu?
[21:45] <Beldar> anish[1], That is good are you on the desktop, and answer that last question if you can.
[21:45] <anish[1]> Beldar: it says your screen, grpahics card and input device settings could not be detecetd correctly
[21:46] <anish[1]> Beldar: offered by ubuntu
[21:46] <ABC> exsist any softwer for downloadin and installin all the drivers?
[21:46] <Beldar> anish[1], sure read these questions closely they are pertinent, are you on the desktop.
[21:46] <anish[1]> Beldar: yes.
[21:47] <anish[1]> Beldar: I am having ubuntu next to me and talking from my windows desktop.
[21:47] <Beldar> anish[1], Cool. so I'm not really an expert on drivers, I was mainly trying o get you to the desktop, from what I could tell you were not getting there before am I correct?
[21:48] <wiricus> Hola I am having trouble installing OpenSCAD. Recieving error about unmet dependencies. what that mean
[21:48] <anish[1]> Beldar: sorry couldn't understand you.
[21:48] <NeverHere> PackardBell,
[21:48] <Beldar> anish[1], You were not able to boot to the desktop until now right?
[21:49] <PackardBell> NeverHere
[21:50] <NeverHere> PackardBell, query
[21:50] <motaka2> Does anyone knows a good book on linux networking ?
[21:50] <anish[1]> Beldar: ok, so here is the story: i bought this laptop which is currently not working after i upgraded to 13.10. I upgraded to many earlier version and didn't have this problem.Yesterday night i tried updating again as i was emboldened by the fact that i had previuosly in the past had upgraded successfully.
[21:50] <ABC> exsist any softwer for downloadin and installin all the drivers?
[21:51] <Beldar> anish[1], right, but after the upgrade to 13.10, the issue now was you could not get to the desktop, am I correct here?
[21:51] <arooni-mobile> control + shift + c and v don't work in terminal ; ubuntu 13.10;  ideas?
[21:51] <kostkon> arooni-mobile, gnome-terminal?
[21:52] <anish[1]> Beldar: yes, as the screen is not coming up after ubuntu screen loads the initial "loading ...." screen.So i am using my office laptop to connect to IRC channel.
[21:53] <arooni-mobile> kostkon, yes;  as well as any other app for text entry (to move highlighter faster when selecting text via keyboard).  to be clear the 'right' shift + control combo works; this one doesnt
[21:53] <arooni-mobile> on the left doesnt work
[21:53] <Beldar> anish[1], Cool so my guess is reloading the correct driver is what is needed, I'm not sure on removing ant there now though. Run in the terminal  software-properties-gtk  to open the software sources and look in additional drivers.
[21:54] <Beldar> *any
[21:54] <kostkon> arooni-mobile, hmm ok
[21:55] <ABC> nvidia driver dont run. hiw can i run in form terminal
[21:55] <anish[1]> Beldar:it fails
[21:55] <Beldar> anish[1], One can remove and load drivers from a terminal outside the desktop, I just wanted to at least get you to the desktop so someone who would be more knowledgeable in this area can get you all set up.
[21:55] <anish[1]> Beldar:segmentatino fault
[21:55] <Beldar> anish[1], when are you getting this error?
[21:56] <anish[1]> when i type software-properties-gtk in terminal
[21:56] <anish[1]> Beldar: anyway i will load up previous version now.As i don't want to waste my time in doing all this crap
[21:56] <Beldar> anish[1], hmm, not sure there can you get to the additional drivers in another way, I assume you are familiar with this already.
[21:57] <anish[1]> Beldar:yes, but i don't want to do that messy process...
[21:57] <Beldar> anish[1], Cool, if you think you have a workable answer.
[21:57] <anish[1]> Beldar: thanks buddy for the help though.
[21:57] <Beldar> anish[1], No prob.
[21:58] <bardu> salve a tutti
[22:00] <Boreeas> What exactly does "Could not deduce (a ~ [a])" mean
[22:03] <LayAnotherBlock> Is Ubuntu Open Source?
[22:03] <k1l_> yes it is
[22:04] <LayAnotherBlock> so i can use code snippets from it? I wanna make an OS witn code
[22:08] <linus_>   hi, i installed the  ubuntu system 3 times now.and it turns out to be  broken i don't no what's wrong.here is the message i get after installation finishes , http://dpaste.com/1496408/
[22:10] <bekks> linus_: Looks like a broken USB device.
[22:11] <marjan> hi
[22:11] <linus_> bekks:gparted said "Invalid partition table - recursive partition on /dev/sdc",then i pressed device table"to correct it
[22:11] <marjan> who can help me with wireeless drivers
[22:12] <linus_>  gparted said "Invalid partition table - recursive partition on /dev/sdc",then i pressed device>create partition  table"to correct it
[22:12] <Beldar> marjan, Post the hardware, you can find it with lspci if internal.
[22:13] <linus_> but i still get the  "Invalid partition table - recursive partition on /dev/sdc" message
[22:13] <anonymousdeivid> oi
[22:13] <marjan> dell inspiron 1564
[22:13] <marjan> where do i post?
[22:13] <Beldar> marjan, The channel works with you stating the issues rather than asking for help.
[22:14] <Beldar> marjan, The wireless hardware
[22:14] <marjan> i cant install the drivers
[22:14] <tozen> hi ubupeople! :)) how is possible to switch off/on usb backlight on console? thx
[22:14] <marjan> tryed 2 diferent sites for help
[22:14] <Beldar> marjan, read my posts, lspci for finding the wireless hardware.
[22:15] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[22:15] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, are you around?
[22:15] <Wiz_KeeD> I am formatting the notebook for the 5th time in the last 2-3 hours, any1 around for some support?
[22:15] <marjan> what is lspci?
[22:16] <Beldar> marjan, A command run in the terminal.
[22:16] <LayAnotherBlock> What programming language was used for Ubuntu?
[22:16] <Beldar> LayAnotherBlock, multiple
[22:16] <LayAnotherBlock> multiple?
[22:17] <Beldar> LayAnotherBlock, languages
[22:17] <LayAnotherBlock> what languages are they?
[22:17] <bekks> LayAnotherBlock: Ubuntu consists of a myriad of of applications, and a lot of them are programmed in different languages.
[22:18] <LayAnotherBlock> No... I mean just the OS. Not the apps
[22:18] <bekks> LayAnotherBlock: "Different languages."
[22:18] <marjan> 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[22:18] <Beldar> !broadcom | marjan try this wiki
[22:19] <Wiz_KeeD> Guys?
[22:19] <k1l_> LayAnotherBlock: i think you want to get to know what a linux distributor is.
[22:19] <marjan> ok
[22:19] <klehmc> Hey I am trying to cross compile for arm and am getting a libc.so missing error, has anyone run into this before?
[22:19] <LayAnotherBlock> i know what they are... I make some with SUSE Studio
[22:19] <Wiz_KeeD> If I install windows and the linux grub does not load because of UEFI thing, should I boot into live-cd and then run boot fix thing and reinstall grub or just change a setting?
[22:19] <Beldar> marjan, If you still have problems, state what you have tried to the channel and include that wifi hardware info. ;)
[22:20] <ludvigsj> Is this the right place to ask about a hardware (touchpad) problem? Or is that a kernel thing?
[22:20] <Beldar> ludvigsj, This is general ubuntu issues, so state the issue.
[22:21] <Beldar> to the channel
[22:21] <LayAnotherBlock> Ok. How do i get a Linux Kernal so i can make my own Linux Distribution?
[22:21] <bekks> LayAnotherBlock: Download it at www.kernel.org
[22:21] <Beldar> LayAnotherBlock, Nice dream, there are many already. ;)
[22:22] <bekks> LayAnotherBlock: and it is called "kernel", not "kernal".
[22:22] <marjan> thanks i was looking for easy way :)
[22:22] <k1l_> LayAnotherBlock: i think your issue suits better into ##linux than in this channel
[22:22] <Beldar> marjan, Hopefully that is it.
[22:22] <klehmc> LayAnotherBlock: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[22:22] <ludvigsj> I have a non-functioning touchpad on my Acer E1-572. Seems as though it registers only a very small, sporadic set of the stream of events sent from the hardware.
[22:23] <perry> hi, is there a good or official guide to installing AMD drivers on Saucy?
[22:23] <ludvigsj> (As in if I log the touchpad input i see input only once every second or so while moving my finger around)
[22:23] <k1l_> perry: install the fglrx from the ubuntu repo
[22:23] <k1l_> !fglrx | perry
[22:24] <ludvigsj> (It works in Windows, so not a hardware issue)
[22:24] <perry> those drivers are up to date with whatever AMD pushes out yes?
[22:24] <ABC> i meke nvidia instalation fron terminal now  is showing "Processing triggers for ureadahead ...
[22:24] <ABC> fatjon@fatjon-HP-Pavilion-dv6500-Notebook-PC:~$" what i have to do?
[22:24] <klehmc> ludvigsj: http://askubuntu.com/questions/325592/ubuntu-13-04-problem-with-the-synaptics-touchpad-on-a-acer-aspire-one-zg5-aoa1   does that apply to you (installing synaptics)
[22:24] <Beldar> ludvigsj, You want to be careful to not spread this info across multiple posts, keep it concise and together and relevant.
[22:25] <k1l_> perry: they are not the most recent. but they are made working with ubuntu
[22:25] <ABC> help
[22:25] <k1l_> perry: you can install the amd drivers from their homepage. but ubuntu cant support that. if something goes wrong ask amd for help
[22:26] <LayAnotherBlock> ok. i got the kernel, and i'm currently unpacking the .tar file i got. Now what?
[22:27] <ludvigsj> klehmc: I have tried the synaptiks thing. The touchpad is detected, but I don't get all the touch-messages.
[22:28] <ABC> i meke nvidia instalation fron terminal now  is showing "Processing triggers for ureadahead ...
[22:28] <ABC> fatjon@fatjon-HP-Pavilion-dv6500-Notebook-PC:~$" what i have to do now?
[22:28] <Ilmen> Hello; Is there a way to prevent certain drive's link to appear in the laucher?
[22:28] <klehmc> ludvigsj: Sad times, I don't have any other ideas for you.
[22:28] <Beldar> ludvigsj, might be relevant http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2192280
[22:29] <Ilmen> My HDD has a number of system drives which show up in the laucher bar; I'd like to disable appearance of some of them
[22:30] <ludvigsj> Beldar: That does seem VERY relevant, thank you, as i have experienced a number of those issues. A wonder that i havent stumbled across that post earlier. Thank you :)
[22:31] <Nacolas> hello
[22:31] <dougl> hello
[22:31] <Bloodcage> Hey all... I've just installed Ubuntu 13.10 and it's a totally different desktop to me ... how do i find all the programs I've installed etc... is there a special program to use ??
[22:31] <Beldar> ludvigsj, No problem, I see this thread referenced in another help blog, and it was multiple issues.
[22:32] <Beldar> ludvigsj, I searched with your computer model, ubuntu and touchpad is all.
[22:32] <dougl> Bloodcage, KDE
[22:32] <Nacolas> amm... use the terminal for update of data base
[22:32] <Bloodcage> thanks dougl but how do i launch it?? there is noch cmd line at all
[22:33] <Bloodcage> very confusing this version
[22:33] <LayAnotherBlock> ok... Where do i start making my linux distribution from? the filesystem? the apps? do i make the desktop environment?
[22:33] <Nacolas> wath
[22:33] <Beldar> LayAnotherBlock, Try ##linux this is ubuntu support. ;)
[22:33] <Nacolas> go to the system/administration/
[22:34] <dougl> "sudo apt-get install kde-desktop" I think will do it.
[22:34] <ubuntu-studio> Bloodcage: when you move the mouse down the screen, you've got a bar with many links including terminal
[22:34] <Nacolas> and  browser gestor of aplications
[22:34] <Bloodcage> the tastbar is on the left side and no terminal installed though
[22:35] <Nacolas> noo
[22:35] <Bloodcage> softwaRE  center, hds and so on
[22:35] <Beldar> LayAnotherBlock, I believe you have to register with freenode to get to ##linux however
[22:35] <dougl> "sudo apt-get install kde-desktop" I think will do it. Bloodcage
[22:36] <Bloodcage> thanks dougl... but i've no commandline where i can type it in
[22:36] <Bloodcage> lol
[22:36] <Bloodcage> like a noob.... this version is stressing me a lot
[22:36] <ubuntu-studio> Ctrl Alt F1 to get a standard terminal
[22:37] <dougl> Bloodcage, Ctrl Alt F1 to get a standard terminal
[22:37] <LayAnotherBlock> I cannot use ##linux. It keeps saying i can't send messages to the channel
[22:37] <Bloodcage> aaaay yes yes thanks... i'd forgotten lol
[22:37] <ubuntu-studio> Bloodcage: and Ctrl Alt F7 to get back to standard screen :p
[22:37] <k1l_> !register | LayAnotherBlock
[22:38] <LayAnotherBlock> kll_: That wasn't the help i needed. lol
[22:40] <Bloodcage> well that's it, thanks a lot
[22:40] <Bloodcage> ;)
[22:41] <Bloodcage> slowly i begin to remember lol
[22:41] <ubuntu-studio> Bloodcage: excellent
[22:42] <Beldar> LayAnotherBlock, You are on the wrong channel for your goals, ##linux is the closest to what you need, and you have to be registered to get there.
[22:43] <Lotus> hey
[22:46] <esde> remote machine doesnt work http://pastebin.com/dzYWBdnm remote machine DOES work on http://pastebin.com/QRvf4Bis What am i missing with ssh keys??
[22:49] <esde> the remote mahine 2 will not accept my key :/
[22:50] <bekks> esde: did you add your client public key to the hosts authorized_keys?
[22:50] <esde> yes
[22:51] <ubuntu-studio> esde: what about the rights of the .ssh folder? 600
[22:51] <bekks> compare the authorized_keys of remote machine 1 and 2.
[22:51] <esde> on local or remote?
[22:51] <ubuntu-studio> remote
[22:51] <bekks> 600 for the ssh folder will render it unusable.
[22:51] <bekks> 0700 for the .ssh folder.
[22:52] <esde> -rwxrwxrwx 1 user user 391 Dec  7 16:31 .ssh/authorized_keys
[22:52] <esde> i think i set 777 to troubleshoot erms
[22:52] <ubuntu-studio> too many rights
[22:52] <esde> *p
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> Esde: not wise, or secure
[22:52] <bekks> esde: thats not going to work. Change permissions to 0600 on that file.
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> Wish people didnt know about 777
[22:53] <esde> ok
[22:53] <esde> changed
[22:53] <bekks> ActionParsnip++
[22:53] <daftykins> hehe
[22:53] <Beldar> linux does allow you really mess stuff up
[22:54] <WeLinuxNow> hell yea it does
[22:54] <ubuntu-studio> bekks: are you sure for the 600 on the folder?
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> Beldar: all OSes do
[22:54] <esde> i dont understand the underlying issue though. followed the same commands for two different machines. Same os, same release, etc. One works, one doesn't
[22:54] <bekks> ubuntu-studio: Yes I am. Without execution permission you cannot enter a folder to read the content.
[22:54] <WeLinuxNow> god help you if you want to manually update your NVIDIA drivers on ubuntu, you WILL lose your whole OS install
[22:54] <bekks> ubuntu-studio: the .ssh folder needs 0700
[22:54] <Beldar> ActionParsnip, true but open source makes it easier in this area.
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu-studio: only the owner needs access. The other zero access keeps anyone else off
[22:54] <bekks> WeLinuxNow: Thats not true. I did it several times now, without problems.
[22:54] <ubuntu-studio> bekks: thanks. It was old memory
[22:55] <esde> ok so 600 authorized and 700 .ssh
[22:55] <esde> still does not work
[22:55] <WeLinuxNow> i've had to do a reformat every time i've installed nvidia drivers
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> Beldar: changing access to files in Windows will cripple the OS
[22:55] <WeLinuxNow> and i mean the .run from their site
[22:55] <bekks> esde: What are the permissions of the other files in there?
[22:55] <WeLinuxNow> not the drivers on the ubuntu repos
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> Beldar: the registry is very sensitive too
[22:55] <WeLinuxNow> 2 different machines
[22:55] <WeLinuxNow> user error? maybe, i doubt it, i followed instructions to a T
[22:55] <Beldar> ActionParsnip, Yes, my statement was a broad one, generaized is all.
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> WeLinuxNow: why not use the packaged driver?
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> Beldar: gotcha
[22:56] <WeLinuxNow> they're old version
[22:56] <WeLinuxNow> nvidia updates like twice a month
[22:56] <esde> http://pastebin.com/RwSGJdHB
[22:56] <WeLinuxNow> i think i'm still on 319 with the ubuntu packages
[22:56] <WeLinuxNow> nvidia is on 331?
[22:56] <WeLinuxNow> something like that
[22:56] <bekks> WeLinuxNow: With Ubuntu packages, I am on 331-.
[22:56] <WeLinuxNow> let me check my version, stand by
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> WeLinuxNow: maybe but does the packaged driver work?
[22:57] <WeLinuxNow> yea, I'm on 319.32
[22:57] <WeLinuxNow> thats the latest version for ubuntu repos
[22:57] <WeLinuxNow> how are you on 331?
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> WeLinuxNow: then where is the problem. Driver is doing what is needed yes....
[22:57] <mickdundee> hi all, i am able to get ssh without password working on all but one machine. i have searched the net, most responses say to look at the logs, which i have but i cant see anything wrong. any ideas out there? thanks.
[22:57] <bekks> WeLinuxNow: I am using this PPA: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat
[22:57] <WeLinuxNow> well with later drives comes better gaming performance
[22:57] <Beldar> ActionParsnip, I removed home 3 times when I started on ubuntu, hehe not knowing even that it was easily fixable, this was the start of my computer use altogether.
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> WeLinuxNow: do you know that for sure?
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> WeLinuxNow: what nvidia gpu do you have?
[22:58] <esde> are those permissions off??
[22:58] <WeLinuxNow> ActionParsnip: they don't release drivers to make the performance worse, right? i am on a GTX 670
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> WeLinuxNow: the update may not affect your gpu. But you knew that
[22:59] <bekks> esde: We dont know, since you didnt pastebin them until now.
[22:59] <WeLinuxNow> on my windows drive nvidia updates me to 331
[22:59] <WeLinuxNow> so i'd assume it effects me
[22:59] <WeLinuxNow> i don't read all the release notes though....
[23:00] <bekks> WeLinuxNow: Assumptions based on Windows are wrong, most likely, when it comes to Linux.
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> WeLinuxNow: http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/nvidia-geforce-331-93-beta-drivers-released
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> WeLinuxNow: doesnt seem to affect your gpu
[23:00] <syeekick> hey peeps, i tried to configure grub to pick up on my windows installation . i have tried the following things: 1: os- prober then reconfigured grub. 2: boot-repair from a ppa, advanced configurations and default. 3: pointing to the other hard drive in BIOS this didn't work as grub is on both drives. boot flag is on both too
[23:00] <WeLinuxNow> so I should still be sitting at 319?
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> WeLinuxNow: you are one of the blind "newer is better"
[23:01] <WeLinuxNow> i may subscribe to that belief from time to time..
[23:01] <syeekick> the only thing i haven't tried is it manually edit the grub.conf file to make it forcefully pick up the windows drive.
[23:01] <WeLinuxNow> i still don't see why 331 would make my system unrecoverable the couple times i tried it
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> WeLinuxNow: its not always the case. If the driver is giving 3D accelleration then its fine. Unless you get some sort of issue why fix what isnt broken? Its madness
[23:01] <WeLinuxNow> even if it didn't effect me
[23:02] <bekks> WeLinuxNow: I dont see why you try it again and again when you always break it. Just use a PPA.
[23:02] <WeLinuxNow> i was experiencing some graphical problems in killing floor, i figured the latest drivers would help
[23:02] <WeLinuxNow> the PPA won't update me past 319, i figured the PPA wasn't up to date
[23:03] <ubuntu-studio> esde: was known_hosts file updated? Because the date associated looks old
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> Is the 319 beta still?
[23:03] <esde> ubuntu-studio, how should i update it?
[23:04] <buu> WeLinuxNow: 14.04 has 331 debs you can install btw
[23:04] <ubuntu-studio> esde: by setting the identity of your calling machine. But can't remember the syntax. Maybe google
[23:04] <WeLinuxNow> 14.04? ubuntu 14.04?
[23:04] <buu> yes
[23:04] <buu> trusty
[23:05] <bekks> WeLinuxNow: Did you read about that PPA I mentioned above...?
[23:05] <WeLinuxNow> i've read up on x-swat
[23:05] <WeLinuxNow> added the PPA, but i'm still at 319
[23:05] <bekks> WeLinuxNow: Then look at the package names and versions.
[23:05] <esde> and known hosts on remote right?
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> WeLinuxNow: xswat is notoriously unstable and not for production systems
[23:05] <ubuntu-studio> yes
[23:06] <WeLinuxNow> ActionParsnip: I suppose I'll just stick with the 319 till ubuntu updates it itself
[23:06] <zacktu> I have restored with deja-dup backup several times.  In each case I have clicked on a folder icon and selected "
[23:06] <ubuntu-studio> esde: tuto on http://doc.fedora-fr.org/wiki/SSH_:_Authentification_par_cl%C3%A9
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> WeLinuxNow: i dont understand why you arebso hung up on it when it wont get you anything
[23:07] <zacktu> I have restored with deja-dup backup several times. In each case I have clicked on a folder icon and selected "Revert to previous version."  How does restore work if the folder has been deleted so that the folder icon is no longer present?
[23:07] <WeLinuxNow> ActionParnsip: I'm not really hung up on it, I was just saying earlier, updating the drivers manually makes ubuntu dead
[23:08] <WeLinuxNow> ActionParsnip: if you update the nvidia drivers manually, (remove yours, install theirs, reboot restart x server blah blah blah), ubuntu boots to a blinking cursor
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> WeLinuxNow: you may need an xorg.conf file to load the driver. Also be sure the kernel module is built
[23:10] <WeLinuxNow> ActionParsnip: I'm still somewhat new to linux. I still don't fully understand what a 'kernal' is
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> WeLinuxNow: the packaged versions are tried and tested under your release
[23:10] <esde> i just emptied known_hosts on local and remote. issue persists
[23:10] <WeLinuxNow> ActionParsnip: I've been on linux for less than a year, working on an IT degree right now that is showing me just how much I don't know about computers
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> WeLinuxNow: the kernel manages ram and hardware access by the OS. It is the core of the OS
[23:11] <WeLinuxNow> ActionParsnip: so it's pretty much the layer under the OS? between the OS and the hardware?
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> Welinuxnow: yes, there are libs and APIs used bybthe apps to talk to the kernel. Its all about layers
[23:12] <WeLinuxNow> ActionParsnip: I'm in intro to OS's right now. memory management is the current name of the game for this week
[23:13] <bekks> WeLinuxNow: Invest about a month for the first level.
[23:13] <WeLinuxNow> bekks: Come again? what do you mean?
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> WeLinuxNow: this layering allows you to have bits of it running on renote systems. In SSH you can use X forwarding and have applications displaying on a remote PC but running on a server system (like citrix). The system doesnt care where the X server is
[23:13] <bekks> WeLinuxNow: you wont learn that in a week.
[23:14] <WeLinuxNow> bekks: Yea, I'm sure I won't learn everything. UoP has 5 week classes
[23:14] <WeLinuxNow> I've been researching memory management for the past 2 hours, I have to write a 2 page paper on why memory management is so important when designing an OS. i'm not sure where to start
[23:14] <WeLinuxNow> this weekend
[23:16] <bekks> WeLinuxNow: Now thats a homework. Good luck.
[23:16] <WeLinuxNow> bekks: thanks. I thought I knew a lot about computers...I WAS WRONG
[23:19] <esde> ActionParsnip, bekks ubuntu-studio http://www.howtogeek.com/168156/fixing-authentication-refused-bad-ownership-or-modes-for-directory/
[23:19] <esde> chmod go-w ~/ was the command that did it
[23:19] <syeekick> could someone point me in the right direction please question is way up there ^^
[23:20] <shah0516> Hello all, im trying to map a network drive and create a physical volume with command pvcreate(working on cloud project). I'm unable to succeed as network drive is not being shown as a device/storage block. Any pointers how to achieve this? can anyone pls let me know how to show a network drive in /dev/sd* instead of /media/*
[23:20] <bekks> esde: 0700 ...
[23:20] <esde> it worked after i ran chmod go-w ~/ on the remote machine
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> Syeekick: do you have a dual boot and want Windows as default?
[23:20] <bekks> esde: ssh works fine, even with a group writable home.
[23:21] <fedgalaxy> Greetings, Just have a short question about the PING cmd under ubuntu. I was just wondering how did ping_cmd work, how it could tell that any host was alive or dead. I mean did it test the targeted host only on port : 80 ? or all ports so it could tell it was alive
[23:21] <buu> shah0516: What is exporting this remote drive?
[23:21] <dandedilia> 
[23:21] <buu> fedgalaxy: It sends a ping pakcet
[23:21] <fedgalaxy> yeah on which port?
[23:22] <buu> The default ping packet port
[23:22] <buu> fedgalaxy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ping_(networking_utility)#ICMP_packet
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> fedgalaxy: you can telnet to port 80 to see if their is a service listening on the socket
[23:22] <dandedilia> hy
[23:22] <Wiz_KeeD> guys I managed to install windows and start the ubuntu live-cd in non-uefi mode
[23:22] <fedgalaxy> if i send packects using python, i must specify the port
[23:22] <fedgalaxy> ok
[23:22] <Wiz_KeeD> but it does not see another operating system at this point
[23:22] <buu> ActionParsnip: NETCAT
[23:22] <wizegeezer> quit
[23:22] <syeekick> ActionParsnip, well i  don't care what is defualt cause its easy to change the order on the grub splsash screen. the problem is my machine doesnt see the os on grub. its mounted and in tact
[23:22] <Wiz_KeeD> and I have to make a custom partition with ubuntu and install on it
[23:22] <Wiz_KeeD> any advice
[23:22] <Wiz_KeeD> ?
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> Buu: huh?
[23:23] <dandedilia> i wait for ubuntu 9.04.... come 9.04 this year?
[23:23] <syeekick> just need it to display in grub so i can choose it
[23:23] <buu> ActionParsnip: Stop recommending telnet as if it was a generic socket tool =[
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> Buu: why, it works
[23:23] <buu> ActionParsnip: Because it speaks telnet and everything that isn't telnetd *doesn't* speak telnet?
[23:23] <buu> And we have a perfectly viable replacement?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> dandedilia: 9.04 was released 200(9) in April (4)th month
[23:24] <k1l_> dandedilia: please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support.
[23:24] <buu> Wiz_KeeD: So do you actually have ubuntu installed right now?
[23:24] <buu> Wiz_KeeD: I'm confused about what you're actually asking
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> Buu: telnet will succeed if the port is active, so yes it can be used to test sockets
[23:25] <Wiz_KeeD> buu, I have installed windows 8.1 and left a bit of unpartitioned space
[23:25] <Wiz_KeeD> now I am booting from dvd and it's the first time it's booting in non-uefi mode
[23:25] <buu> Ok?
[23:25] <buu> Install ubuntu on the empty space =]
[23:25] <Wiz_KeeD> and here it does not detect any other operating system installed (the installed 8.1 windows)
[23:25] <buu> Ohh
[23:25] <Wiz_KeeD> it does not have the install ubuntu next to windows thing
[23:25] <buu> Whats with everyone not detecting windows today
[23:26] <shah0516> buu: I didn't get your question. I am trying to mount a drive that is shared from a windows pc (remote network) and trying to create a physical volume with that mounted space using 'pvcreate'. my purpose is to make this drive appear in the lvm file list and then I can allocate a volume to my cloud instance..
[23:26] <Wiz_KeeD> Because most probably windows is installed in uefi mode and i've booted in non-uefi mode the dvd
[23:26] <Wiz_KeeD> What do you recommend here?
[23:26] <buu> Wiz_KeeD: I've never tried it, I'd have to google..
[23:26] <Wiz_KeeD> Bood in uefi and install ubuntu (which will end up booting windows directly and grub not showing, where I have to boot up live cd and use boot fix thing) or install it likethis?
[23:26] <Wiz_KeeD> ah ok
[23:27] <buu> Surely there's some way to talk grub into seeing it
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> syeekick: if you run: sudo update-grub ,does it get detected?
[23:29] <jost_> How would I install Xubuntu 13.10 via network (PXE)? All wikis etc. say that an alternate Image is needed... which was last released for 12.04.
[23:29] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, Have you tried bootrepair?
[23:29] <fedgalaxy> ActionParsnip, buu : port:80 concerns me the most because of http interface, so if I use a python program to test the availability of  a range ip_addresses or i use the default ping cmd (ubuntu), there is no difference, thats your point? they will both give me good result?
[23:29] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, yeah If i install in uefi and use that it works but I end up with two instances of windows 8 in grub...
[23:29] <boggle> Issue with key mapping on new keyboard: http://pastebin.com/QUT0hXG1
[23:30] <buu> shah0516: Um, can't you just pvcreate a loopback file?
[23:30] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, One is probably the recovery.
[23:30] <Beldar> good to have if working
[23:30] <syeekick> ActionParsnip, i done that and know it doesn't
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> Fedgalaxy: ping doesnt test ports. It simply tests logical connectivity (assuming you are not blocking icmp)
[23:30] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, they boot to the same thing
[23:31] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, which is?
[23:31] <fedgalaxy> ahh ok , i see your point now
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> Fedgalaxy: if you want to test ip ranges you can use nmap
[23:31] <Wiz_KeeD> win 8
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> syeekick: i have no experience of dual boot fixing. I single boot all my systems and always have
[23:31] <Wiz_KeeD> i will install in uefi mode the ubuntu and that's that
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> syeekick: maybe others can advise
[23:32] <Wiz_KeeD> it said secure boot not enabled just before booting from the cd
[23:32] <syeekick> ActionParsnip, thanks any way :P
[23:32] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | syeekick
[23:33] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, so does the boot from from that dual windows in grub go to windows?
[23:33] <syeekick> Jordan_U, dang !
[23:33] <shah0516> buu: yeah I can do that but my shared drive is not appearing as a loopback file. (I'm trying to assign more volume to my cloud space by extending the volume group) can you pls tell me how to mount this //servername/sharedname on loopback file?
[23:33] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, both options yes
[23:33] <pvl1> im trying to configure an x server, and keeping getting this message: number of created screens does not match number of detected devices. im running ubuntu 12.10 intel 915 mobile graphics
[23:33] <Wiz_KeeD> let me install the ubuntu first, confirm the same problem that windows boots automatically and then go to repair and come back
[23:34] <buu> shah0516: No I mean create the loopback file *inside* /sharename
[23:34] <LayAnotherBlock> Test
[23:34] <buu> shah0516: Then add that file as a pv
[23:34] <fedgalaxy> ActionParsnip, yeah ,I could use nmap, but my only problem is : when "nmap -sP 192.168.1.0/24", it tests only the last octet from 0 -> 255 , from 192.168.1.0 to 192.168.1.255, i want to test a range like this :  192.168.1.0 to 192.168.1.255 then 192.168.2.0 to 192.168.2.255, i cant everytime change the 3rd octet unless i code it, but how?
[23:34] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, I just hit standard repair without even the option to purge old kernels?
[23:35] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, It sounds like you are not using it as of now hard to say, however if you have it and this double windows line is a huge deal, and you get no help here try this thread the bootrepair apps developer, and post the bootinfo summary. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[23:35] <buu> fedgalaxy: Learn to code?
[23:35] <Jordan_U> syeekick: Why "dang"?
[23:35] <buu> fedgalaxy: Its literally 1 line
[23:35] <syeekick> Jordan_U,  cause its nice
[23:35] <fedgalaxy> yeah but with nmap, its only the last octet?
[23:35] <shah0516> buu: thanks! can you give me some pointers on how to do that? ( create the loopback file *inside* /sharename)
[23:35] <fedgalaxy> so i need to make a loop or something
[23:36] <LayAnotherBlock> How do i make a Linux Filesystem?
[23:36] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, Ubuntu does not detect another os not even in UEFI mod
[23:36] <Wiz_KeeD> is it something to do with the latest ubuntu or smth?
[23:36] <Wiz_KeeD> is it a bug?
[23:36] <k1l_> LayAnotherBlock: just code it ;p (you were already told to ask in ##linux since its not ubuntu support)
[23:36] <syeekick> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/620XfKVi
[23:37] <Wiz_KeeD> what the hell is WRONG with this crap
[23:37] <LayAnotherBlock> kll_: I can't code And, ##linux dun wanna let me chat.
[23:37] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, purging old kernels is easy, not sure what your referring to. You had a install that showed grub with two windows boots after using the bootrepair right?
[23:37] <kevr> LayAnotherBlock: man mkfs
[23:37] <buu> shah0516: http://www.unix.com/showthread.php?t=152762 ?
[23:38] <fedgalaxy> buu, what do you suggest? system ('nmap -sP 192.168.x.0/24'); make x in a loop?
[23:38] <k1l_> LayAnotherBlock: the bot told you already how you register with freenode. for problems with that process ask in #frennode
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> LayAnotherBlock: do you mean format a partition to a Linux filesystem?
[23:38] <shah0516> buu: thanks. I will check that
[23:38] <buu> fedgalaxy: Um, if thats the desired behaviour, sure?
[23:38] <Jordan_U> syeekick: The reason that os-prober isn't finding any Windows installation is that you don't have any bootable Windows installation. Fix Windows (so that it's actually bootable), then os-prober will be able to find it.
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> Fedgalaxy: surely thay is 192.168.0.0/16 ?
[23:39] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, in the past yes
[23:39] <Wiz_KeeD> not anymore
[23:39] <Wiz_KeeD> now it does not detect the windows OS
[23:39] <LayAnotherBlock> ActionParsnip: No. I'm making my own linux distribution and i need to know how to make the FS
[23:39] <syeekick> i t was bootable before the installation of ubuntu
[23:39] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, And why is that install gone?
[23:39] <buu> shah0516: http://doc.infosnel.nl/funlvm.html this might be slightly saner, heh
[23:39] <MonkeyDust> LayAnotherBlock: you can't code and you want to make a complete distro?
[23:40] <Wiz_KeeD> i reformatted
[23:40] <Jordan_U> syeekick: Did you use automatic partitioning or manual in Ubuntu's installer?
[23:40] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, Why?
[23:40] <k1l_> LayAnotherBlock: please ask in #freenode  for problems with ##linux. that is not ubuntu support
[23:40] <syeekick> gparted
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> LayAnotherBlock: mk2fs.ext4 will make an Ext4 partition for you etc. Or is that not what you mean
[23:40] <Wiz_KeeD> because of that dual thingy, does it matter?
[23:40] <shah0516> buu: :)
[23:40] <LayAnotherBlock> I can code. I'm learning
[23:40] <boggle> \lastlog boggle
[23:41] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Wiz_KeeD
[23:41] <boggle> lol wut
[23:41] <MonkeyDust> LayAnotherBlock: (this is not the right channel, type /join #freenode if you want help to join ##linux
[23:41] <Wiz_KeeD> I see in boot options in bios windows boot manager
[23:41] <Guest73403> hey I am installing nvidia drivers in mint. Can some one help me?
[23:41] <bazhang> !mint | Guest73403
[23:41] <k1l_> !mint | Guest73403 the mint support can help you
[23:41] <Guest73403> thanx
[23:42] <boggle> \lastlog chan
[23:42] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, Yes and always use nicks here. It is likely that was the install needed, and the dual windows lines might have been fixable or at the least something that was the only option, I gave you the link to the developers thread of the bootrepair app, they along with a couple others on the forums are really goo on these issues, and would use the bootinfo summary generated by that app.
[23:42] <k1l_> boggle: use a / not a \
[23:42] <Beldar> good*
[23:42] <syeekick> Jordan_U, : i used gparted to set up my shizzle. i didn't touch windows in the slightest
[23:43] <syeekick> or the hard drive it sat on
[23:44] <subone> Can someone tell me if it is possible to shutdown the computer at boot if it is not a certain time of day? I'm trying to get my kids to bed, but if I setup a scheduled shutdown, it occurs to me that it would be possible for them to sneak and turn it back on.
[23:45] <boggle> k1l_: thanks, lol, just got a weird new ergonomic keyboard with a significant learning curve
[23:45] <chcha> I m trying to installl latest nvidia drivers and tried using this sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa but it doesn't work.
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> Subone: add an entry in cron for @startup then run a bash script to perform a check on the time and date and run a shutdown if certain situations are not satisfied
[23:46] <jeffrey_f> subone: You could do that via a signon script.  I'm thinking check the time of day, if between certain times, then logoff
[23:46] <chcha> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa is it not valid ppa?
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> Chcha: why not use the nvidia-current from the official repos?
[23:46] <boggle> k1l_: no printing on any of the keys. looks sick, but takes some getting used to
[23:46] <chcha> ActionParsnip:how to do that?
[23:46] <subone> ActionParsnip: I was thinking cron for the initial shutdown, so that would be an ideal solution I think
[23:46] <boggle> Issue with key mapping on new keyboard: http://pastebin.com/QUT0hXG1
[23:47] <subone> I will look further into cron, ty guys
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Chcha: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current ,no PPA needed.
[23:47] <jeffrey_f> subone: You would need to check if after HH:MM (PM Times) and before HH:MM (Before AM times).....Logout
[23:47] <MonkeyDust> subone: or simply take the laptop battery out of the machine
[23:48] <chcha> ActionParsnip:couldn't resolve archive.ubuntu.com
[23:48] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, My point is you had a working install, many have to use the bootrepair to get everything set, grub is easily changed, removal of one of the windows lines was an easy option most likely.
[23:48] <subone> MonkeyDust: It is not a laptop. Not sure what lead you to think it was.
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> Chcha: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[23:49] <hikenboot> hello is there a way to determine what c headers a program that I am trying to compile with gcc is missing?
[23:49] <jeffrey_f> Subone:  Cron probably not the solution, use the bash script as a logon script.....Even have it email you if the time check failed
[23:49] <chcha> ActionParsnip:13.10
[23:49] <MonkeyDust> subone: then take the electricity cable with you, if the kids are not allowed to use the pc
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> Chcha: do you have web access on the system?
[23:49] <fedgalaxy> hikenboot, standard input output?
[23:49] <subone> MonkeyDust: Thank you, no
[23:50] <hikenboot> no it doesnt mention what header it is missing
[23:50] <hikenboot> it could be its looking for streambuf.h
[23:50] <fedgalaxy> hikenboot, i suggest you download geany; compiler and debbuger
[23:51] <fedgalaxy> hikenboot, if the header is missing you should put it on the lib
[23:51] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, yes you are most right, now I know but it's too late, I will try to make the same setup tommorow
[23:51] <Wiz_KeeD> and place things back...just thought everything should have worked out of the box
[23:51] <hikenboot> fedgalaxy, how do I do that?
[23:51] <Wiz_KeeD> I will go to bed now it's late and will try again tommorow
[23:51] <Wiz_KeeD> Thanks a lot Beldar have a great night!
[23:52] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, I understand, best of luck. ;)
[23:52] <fedgalaxy> hikenboot, do you have the header? did you download it? or you made it by yourself?
[23:52] <hikenboot> its a program which I got as source that only comes as source
[23:52] <subone> jeffrey_f: You actually bring up a good point. Do I want to stop them from being able to login or do I want to also know who was attempting to login. So, perhaps a login script might be the way to go for this part. Is there a way to run a script at login, one that is not editable by the user?
[23:53] <hikenboot> it comes with a confdefs.h is that what you mean fedgalaxy
[23:54] <hikenboot> the confdefs.h mentions Have_CTYPE_H HAVE_REGEX_H HAVE STDLIB_H
[23:54] <subone> jeffrey_f: nvm I see /etc/profile.d/
[23:54] <jeffrey_f> subone:http://stackoverflow.com/questions/97137/how-do-you-run-a-script-on-login-in-nix
[23:54] <jeffrey_f> I'm also looking for other examples or just google  -->Ubuntu bash login script
[23:55] <sveinse> What is the minimal packages needed for i386/amd64 to boot?  grub2 + linux-image? I'm working on testing some embedded debootstrapped image (in qemu).
[23:55] <fedgalaxy> hikenboot, i believe you want to compile the entire application in order to get it work, this what i know; when you want to compile en entire app, some headers need to be in the library so whenever compiler call them => find them, if those headers are missing from the Main library , your final app cannot be compiled, therefore you need to put ALL-IN the lib
[23:57] <jeffrey_f> subone:  You could simply add the following command into System > Preferences > Startup Applications:  bash /full/path/to/your/script.sh       This should work as long as where ever you put the script is accessible to their profiles user
[23:58] <jeffrey_f> subone:  Also, that may be changeable by them....depends on user permissions to remove the startup pgm
[23:58] <hikenboot> fedgalaxy how do i run it with geany?
[23:58] <hikenboot> it looks to be like an editor
[23:58] <hikenboot> is this the right program