[00:01] <arsen> probably true!
[00:15] <ali1234> i just found 30 PPC i forgot about in a pool
[00:18] <directhex> i miss my BTC
[00:18] <directhex> i regret selling when i did
[00:18] <directhex> stupid commodities
[00:30] <arsen> :)
[00:30] <arsen> ive no real interest in the money return initially, i'm doing it for fun and interest, plus the long term return if there is any.
[08:56] <MartijnVdS> http://www.addedbytes.com/blog/if-php-were-british/
[09:55] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:57] <mapps> morning mate
[09:58] <mapps> morning MartijnVdS
[09:59] <MartijnVdS> \o
[10:37] <SuperEngineer> \o folks
[10:37] <SuperEngineer> sun's shining...
[10:37] <SuperEngineer> ..time to prepare a salad
[10:47] <arc__> Hello
[10:49] <popey> hi
[11:01] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[11:04] <arc__> Nearly afternoon
[11:05] <brobostigon> an hour.
[11:09] <arc__> Yea
[11:11] <SuperEngineer> Just seen this on twitter - made I laugh   https://twitter.com/Rickontour/status/409638764898963456/photo/1
[11:11] <MartijnVdS> SuperEngineer: well, at least it's standard 8-)
[11:12] <SuperEngineer> MartijnVdS: ;)
[11:12] <bigcalm> Bug fixing at the weekend. I "love" my life
[11:12] <bigcalm> But now, time for magic pig sandwitches!
[11:12] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: don't make bugs :)
[11:13] <bigcalm> MartijnVdS: you sound horribly like my clients
[11:13] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: I know, I write software for a living too ;)
[11:16] <brobostigon> cm11-m1 is working well on my nexus7, noticed another bug, the keyboard crashes and wont restart unless you force it.
[11:42] <MartijnVdS> 8-)  http://i.imgur.com/Og1NB7Z.gif
[11:51] <SuperEngineer> & while you're all at imgur, you might find "45 of the most powerful images of 2013" http://imgur.com/a/rFmNh interesting
[11:51] <MartijnVdS> SuperEngineer: saw it on reddit earlier today
[11:52] <SuperEngineer> MartijnVdS: yup - certainly attention grabbing
[12:12] <MartijnVdS> fun, these also work with voice search on the web: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524501
[12:16] <bigcalm> S voice is no fun
[12:16] <MartijnVdS> ask it for "tea, earl grey, hot"
[12:17] <bigcalm> No joy
[12:19] <MartijnVdS> "up up down down left right left right" ?
[12:20] <MartijnVdS> "what's the best smartphone"
[12:21] <MartijnVdS> "when am I"
[12:21] <MartijnVdS> "lions and tigers and bears"
[12:24] <MartijnVdS> "how can entropy be reversed" (see: http://filer.case.edu/dts8/thelastq.htm)
[12:33] <SuperEngineer> q/ re backups & file systems...
[12:34] <SuperEngineer> last night I deliberately erased external backup disc & started again from scratch...
[12:35] <SuperEngineer> I did a straight partition copy for whole of Ubuntu partion - created another partition as btrfs
[12:35] <penguin42> ok
[12:36] <SuperEngineer> the partition being backed up [on a per folder basis via rsync] is ext4...
[12:36] <SuperEngineer> should restores be ok with that? [ext4 -> btrfs -> ext4 on restore if needed]
[12:37] <penguin42> yes
[12:37]  * SuperEngineer crosses fingies
[12:37] <SuperEngineer> thanks Pendulum
[12:37] <penguin42> using something like rsync shouldn't care what the underlying FS is
[12:37] <SuperEngineer> whoops!
[12:37] <SuperEngineer> thanks penguin42
[12:37] <penguin42> SuperEngineer: You might want to try btrfs snapshots as well
[12:38] <SuperEngineer> penguin42: que?
[12:39] <SuperEngineer> on an external disc?
[12:39] <penguin42> SuperEngineer: You can tell btrfs to snapshot the entire filesystem and then carry on, then at some point later you can look at the old versions at the point of the snapshot
[12:41] <penguin42> SuperEngineer: It helps if you're doing regular backups but don't notice you deleted something until after you're next backup
[12:41] <SuperEngineer> ah ha, I knew btrfs could do that but wondered about the viabilty of the theory of using that for an external drive which is only plugged at backup time
[12:41] <penguin42> no, I don't think that makes any difference
[12:41] <SuperEngineer> cool :)
[12:42] <penguin42> there are some other scripts that work like Apple time machine- they use a set of links to keep multiple old versions visible on any unix like filesystem
[12:42]  * penguin42 doesn't know the names of that one
[12:43] <SuperEngineer> lol
[12:57] <dwatkins> Magnets! http://sugru.com/magnet-kit
[12:59] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: ooh!
[13:00] <dwatkins> Yeah MartijnVdS - I signed up; sadly it's not going to be available before christmas.
[13:00] <dwatkins> Gives me some ideas for the Sugru I already have, though.
[13:00] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: I've used sugru with neodymium magnets before
[13:00] <MartijnVdS> it's great :)
[13:01] <penguin42> so that's just a pack of strong magnets?
[13:02] <MartijnVdS> yeah, you can get cheap ones on ebay
[13:02] <dwatkins> penguin42: no, it cmes with Sugru as well, and the magnets are carefully chosen and have dimples in them so you can be sure to get them the right way around
[13:02] <MartijnVdS> just 1cm or 2cm discs (like several 5p coins stacked)
[13:02] <dwatkins> and they shouldn't move too easily because of the dimples
[13:03] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: those are useful ideas :)
[13:03] <penguin42> ah
[13:04] <dwatkins> I have Sugru on my laptop power supply to stop the cable getting worn out, and on the back of my Nintendo DS to hold it more easily.
[13:04] <dwatkins> oh, and on the corners of my bed so I don't scratch myself as I walk past
[13:04] <MartijnVdS> I have it on my old laptop, the original rubber bits fell off
[13:04] <MartijnVdS> and on my teapot, so it doesn't scratch my table
[13:04] <gordonjcp> I haven't played with sugru yet at all
[13:04] <dwatkins> It's like playdough for adults and chilrden ;)
[13:05] <dwatkins> (don't eat it)
[13:05] <MartijnVdS> Just upgraded the zippers on my bag, so it's easier to recognise on the baggage caroussel ;)
[13:05] <dwatkins> I have a big Lego nametag on my bag...
[13:06] <dwatkins> <--- big kid
[13:09] <MartijnVdS> OK... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVCzdpagXOQ
[13:11] <dwatkins> haha
[13:13] <dwatkins> Next up: Rebecca makes a song about being immensely hungover on Sunday
[13:13] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: probably
[13:13] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: have you seen the reaction video, where she re-watches "Friday"?
[13:14] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5nfV3S7sqI
[13:14] <dwatkins> I was just about to watch that...
[13:15] <dwatkins> Why do people say "What's up?" on youtube videos?
[13:15] <MartijnVdS> people are strange.
[13:18] <dwatkins> at least she doesn't take herself too seriously - that probably comes later, with the entourage and the fame
[13:19] <MartijnVdS> Aww yeah! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGRQKKaox5Q
[13:20] <MartijnVdS> "United State of Pop 2013"
[13:22] <dwatkins> "DJ Earworm" just sounds like an infection.
[13:22] <dwatkins> Wait, what happened to the DeLorean....?
[13:24] <dwatkins> Seeing that teddy bear with the lit-up eyes reminds me of this rather awesome kickstarter... http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2117525416/supertoy-worlds-first-natural-talking-teddy-bear
[13:24] <dwatkins> I'm expecting to get my bear early next year.
[13:28] <MartijnVdS> so.. next month?
[13:28] <dwatkins> maybe, they had some problems with the choice of microphone, so couldn't delivery by christmas
[13:29] <dwatkins> they were very apologetic, but said they wanted to make a good quality product
[13:29] <dwatkins> "Sorry I could not make Christmas. It was one of the hardest things I have ever done. To let you down, I am so sorry. I will deliver you a toy I am proud of in the New Year. "
[13:30] <dwatkins> https://d2pq0u4uni88oo.cloudfront.net/assets/001/394/389/6c6c710089281c5d3513bbcfe4aeea30_h264_high.mp4 is the latest video from their update
[13:51] <ted> hi :)
[14:04] <ali1234> yeeeeaaaaah...
[14:18] <SuperEngineer> this little beauty arrived a couple of weeks back http://imagebin.org/281181,  Having fed it with a few sugar grains in water it wes able to fly again
[14:19] <SuperEngineer> I opened kichen window this morning to let it escape... it did, it got cold, it flew back in and has now settled in bathroom
[14:19] <SuperEngineer> ho hum - to feed or not to feed?
[14:26] <gordonjcp> SuperEngineer: I've got one of those
[14:26] <gordonjcp> I stick some sugar grains in water in a dish every few days and it seems to keep out of the cat's way
[14:27] <SuperEngineer> gordonjcp: helpful - thanks
[14:27] <gordonjcp> not that Suzie seems to be bothered by it
[14:27] <gordonjcp> if Estelle was still around she would literally be climbing the curtains to get it
[14:28] <gordonjcp> https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/61948_10151358251713799_2058733252_n.jpg <- ate bugs
[14:29] <gordonjcp> https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/p206x206/1468_10151716780888799_664239353_n.jpg <- does not eat bugs
[14:29] <shauno> hah, I used to have a p4 optiplex like that.  very efficient cat warmer
[14:30] <gordonjcp> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/560168_10151624277338799_1173501888_n.jpg
[14:30] <SuperEngineer> :)
[14:57] <dwatkins> oops http://www.dailydot.com/lol/4chan-unlock-xbox-prank-brick/
[14:59] <penguin42> haha
[16:59] <mapps> evening
[16:59] <mapps> lol dwatkins
[17:27] <foobarry> thats like a more lethal version of the unix fork bomb
[17:28] <foobarry> there will always be those type of teenagers...and some who act like teenagers...
[17:30] <mapps> Ìû
[17:34] <daubers> Afternoon
[17:40] <dwatkins> trolls will be trolls
[17:46] <penguin42> odd they left something in the GUI that could apparently brick it without doing anything too odd
[17:47] <foobarry> it probably has a warning when you choose dev mode though
[17:47] <foobarry> "HERE BE DRAGONS"
[17:48] <shauno> I wonder how bricked they actually are.  or if you could grab one, wipe the hdd and be a happy chappy
[17:54] <penguin42> shauno: I suspect they're trying to connect to a dev system?
[19:15] <daftykins> wowzer, just spent 3.5hrs+ insulating the central heating pipes that run outside under my decking D:
[19:15] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/c8ty2ci247x35mh/K98JW6OBlt
[19:24] <penguin42> daftykins: But can you measure the savings?
[19:25] <daftykins> haha
[19:25] <daftykins> who knows
[19:25] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/qc4pehrfrro5x4o/decking.jpg
[19:25] <daftykins> here's what was there before
[19:25] <daftykins> didn't cost me much :>
[19:25] <daftykins> just plenty of time
[19:26] <penguin42> AlanBell: http://www.itechpost.com/articles/2346/20120604/robots-now-debone-chicken-surgical-precision.htm
[19:56] <bigcalm> Oh goodness. Variety just changed the background to what looks to be a default Ubuntu one. It's horrid
[19:57] <bigcalm> Oh, no. My bad. It's from http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1908939 - still horrid
[19:57] <Myrtti> apparently there's something Sherlocky in BBC one once Strictly is over
[19:58] <DJones> Must be an advert then, my wife is just waiting for The Paradise to start
[19:58] <Myrtti> yes
[19:58] <Myrtti> probably
[19:58] <DJones> yep, on now
[19:59] <Myrtti> Ohhh my gawd
[19:59] <DJones> Was that Nigel Planer?
[20:10] <arsen> hah, i like that bigcalm  :<
[21:05] <foobarry> watching the "how videogames changedthe world" and trying to guess which game will come next
[21:05] <foobarry> succeeding mostly
[21:08] <foobarry> just seena death scene from mortal kombat 9....what  the heck
[22:08] <sebsebseb> hi
[22:08] <daftykins> o hi
[22:08] <sebsebseb> daftykins: hi
[22:15] <popey> hello sebsebseb
[22:16] <sebsebseb> popey: hi