[00:00] <fedgalaxy> hikenboot, i told you that before knowing that you had a zipped application that needed to be complied. I didn't know that you wanted to compile a source application from level 0. I thought you made main.c file who calls certain headers files which were absent from the main library folder.
[00:01] <scipy53> anyone know how i can run a microsoft flight simulator on ubuntu?
[00:01] <hikenboot> sorry I didnt know it was at level 4 I usually do a ./configure make make install in this case I ran autoconf first
[00:01] <hikenboot> sorry level 0
[00:02] <hikenboot> not sure what that means exactly I am not a programmer
[00:03] <fedgalaxy> hikenboot, what is this application anyway? if you dont mind to tell me of course
[00:04] <DWSR> Is there a way to schedule cronjobs to run on file changes?
[00:04] <hikenboot> mnemisis
[00:05] <Jordan_U> syeekick: What specifically did you do with gparted?
[00:05] <syeekick> just managed my 2tb drive and left my 1tb windows system in tact
[00:08] <hikenboot> i just got a clue it might be looking for python headers for c is there such a thing?
[00:08] <jeffrey_f> subone:  Look into .bashrc  <--It is the non-interactive script.  The user never sees it run as it runs as a submitted job and not on a pop-up screen the user can close
[00:08] <irreverant> hello everyone
[00:08] <jarray52> I have a laptop with built in Audio and a USB audio speakers. The USB audio works on my other Linux machine, and Ubuntu recognizes the audio card. However, it defaults to the computers built in speakers. How do I adjust this?
[00:09] <irreverant> is there a AV/AntiMalware product for ubuntu?
[00:09] <irreverant> or for linux that will run on ubuntu...
[00:09] <fedgalaxy> hikenboot, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1217943/where-are-include-files-stored-ubuntu-linux-gcc
[00:09] <Jordan_U> syeekick: What do you mean by "managed"? Please be specific.
[00:09] <irreverant> im asking because i would like to use it as a tool to scan through windows drives connected to my ubuntu box
[00:09] <jarray52> Also, in the alsa mixer, my USB speakers work in one window but not the other.
[00:10] <Jordan_U> !virus | irreverant
[00:11] <biglinux> ola
[00:11] <Beldar> irreverant, There are a number of bootable av on line.
[00:11] <n1ckn> Anyone been able to get the Type Conver for the Surface Pro 2 working with Ubuntu?
[00:11] <n1ckn> Type Conver/Type Cover
[00:12] <biglinux> #funchal
[00:12] <biglinux> ola
[00:12] <chcha> After upgrading to 13.10 and installing latest nvidia drivers still after i get splash screen there is blank screen coming.God  help me
[00:12] <biglinux> alguem de portugal_
[00:13] <n1ckn> biglinux: you mean "hola"?
[00:13] <Beldar> !pt | biglinux
[00:14] <jarray52> I have a device as higher priority within phonon, but Ubuntu (using KDE) does not use the higher priority device. Any suggestions?
[00:14] <jarray52> Furthermore, the lower priority headset actually works in the Audio Hardware Setup tab.
[00:16] <chcha> is it possible for me to downgrade from 13.10 to lower version with just command line???????
[00:16] <chcha> My network is working and I have terminal working.So can i downgrade with command line?
[00:17] <Beldar> chcha, Nope you have to fresh install.
[00:17] <chcha> Beldar: oh ok....
[00:18] <chcha> Beldar: using live cd or USB.Is there any other way?
[00:18] <Beldar> chcha, You might address the problems on 13.10 to the channel though?
[00:18] <hmf-pi> :)
[00:18] <Beldar> chcha, You can use grub to boot an iso.
[00:19] <chcha> Beldar: but ISO should be copied before that right?
[00:19] <Beldar> chcha, downloaded
[00:19] <chcha> Beldar: ok you mean i should download ISO file and store that in some place and give the location of that ISO in grub?
[00:21] <Beldar> chcha, Yes, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[00:22] <Beldar> chcha, Not sure on resizing or removing the 13.10 if the iso is there when booted is all.
[00:23] <Beldar> chcha, One of your best tools thigh is the iso loaded to a dvd or usb though.
[00:23] <Beldar> though*
[00:25] <pragmatism> So my IP tables are wide open, I can see znc running on the right port with netstat, but I can't hit it from outside my server.
[00:27] <chcha> Beldar:yes i asked my roommate and he has live usb but it has xubuntu installed so i will download the ubuntu on USB and try it.Should i use 13.10 and try it?Do you think it would work?
[00:28] <Beldar> chcha, I'm a little confused, your question was a downgrade from 13.10, as far as what you should try that is your decision.
[00:29] <Jordan_U> syeekick: Your Windows installation is missing critical boot files, Ubuntu's installer doesn't touch files outside the partitions it's installing to and doesn't remove partitions unless explicitly told to.
[00:29] <chcha> Beldar:yes but as now i got a USB i would like to reinstall 13.10 with USB and see if it works or not.Upgrade didn't work though.
[00:30] <Beldar> chcha, Ah, again your choice, a failed upgrade does not mean it wont work. Have you addressed this failed upgrade here?
[00:30] <chcha> Beldar: no i don't want to waste time on fixing the problem but rather re-install and see if it works.If it doesn't then i will install previous version.
[00:32] <Beldar> chcha, Sounds like a good plan. Short of some driver not being supported if ubuntu worked in 13.04 than it should be fine to run 13.10.
[00:33] <Beldar> chcha, THing about upgrades is if yhou have added 3rd party repos or ppa's these can break an upgrade, so be aware of this some times a ppa-purge is the option and or removing stuff appropriately, before running the distro upgrade.
[00:34] <chcha> Beldar: i will take care of that in future.
[00:34] <Beldar> chcha, Cool, I clone all installs myself for just such a failure or any other.
[00:35] <chcha> Beldar: How can i keep a working copy of all the settings or everything related to kernel or ubuntu? Incase of failure i can just use the same.
[00:37] <Beldar> chcha, You can make a package list and save the source.list and source.list.d and keys, and document any kernel changes and do fresh install and have the same rather quickly in general, that's my method rather than upgrades.
[00:38] <Beldar> chcha, I have a list of additional apps I like, and if any need other repos, I just load them and the keys and run that list
[00:43] <tripelb> I am really slow, halt and wait for cursor to change tab -- nothing working but 12 tabs of chrome. 12.04 2002 computer with 1G of RAM. Nothing special in system. Wifi-usb. VGA=plug monitor, flatscreen (the kind you can push finger into screen). Oh chrome and a gedit window. I have something like 5G freespace IIR. Let me chack= df -h  $ /dev/sda5        21G  9.4G  9.7G  50% /
[00:44] <Beldar> tripelb, what desktop, 12 tabs in chrome with 1 gig ram is probably pushing it to swap.
[00:46] <tripelb> Beldar, are you kidding? I had a dell 2004 model with the same ram (ie close to the same computer) and it didnt do this. (Probably- is something I usually call a guess.) --- two things more. 1) what desktop would make a difference. That is something I would really like to know. and 2) I use gnome-classic. => Thanks for engaging.
[00:47] <Beldar> tripelb, If your going to be snarky I will be glad to not help you.
[00:48] <tripelb> I lied dell dimension 4600 was 2007. It had agp/pci and this has no agp slot. This does have a 2.0 USB on the front same as the other. (this is a dell dimension 1100.
[00:48] <urgodfather> hello room, i have a couple simple questions. i recently did a clean install of 12.04 and i noticed that the nvida bins were not triggered nor is additional drivers avail. how do i resolve this? second question, my splash screen also is not appearing. could be related. also, how to fix?
[00:48] <mdpatrick> Does ubuntu create a www-data user BY DEFAULT when installed??? Anyone know?
[00:48] <Beldar> tripelb, YOU did not answer a basic de question, and say whether or not you have checked swappiness, but responded in a smart ass response
[00:48] <tripelb> I would like to turn OFF join and part messages for just this channel, if possible.
[00:48] <daftykins> mdpatrick: not ubuntu, that's an apache thing
[00:49] <Beldar> hardly a guess withe the little info you gave
[00:49] <mdpatrick> daftykins: k... but some installs of ubuntu come with apache installed by default???
[00:50] <daftykins> mdpatrick: i don't know of any
[00:50] <marcos_> clear
[00:50] <daftykins> even in server you have to pick it
[00:50] <urgodfather> anyone?
[00:51] <tripelb> Beldar, OK so lets get deeper (if you would please) I have no reallity on how chrome is "supposed to work, re timing and ram) but it is always saying that it has to wait for tabs that were loaded long ago and that I havent looked at for a while. I cant imagine what it might be doing with them) -- what desktops would be more or less of a drag? Is gnome=classic particularily efficient? (that's my guess)
[00:52] <marcos_> hello I'm trying to test if ufw is working property, but I cant tests, it suppose to open a port but when I make a scan with nmap it says that is't closed
[00:53] <Beldar> urgodfather, how does the OS look, maybe you are set for drivers?
[00:53] <tripelb> beldar
[00:53] <tripelb> Beldar,
[00:53] <tripelb> ???
[00:53] <tripelb> beldar (used control key instead of shift key)
[00:53] <usr13> marcos_: Can you please restate your question?
[00:54] <urgodfather> Beldar: it looks like a clean install of ubuntu
[00:54] <MarchHare> Question: I have PPTPd set up on my machine, and it works. Is there a tutorial/explanation for how to get the mostly default pptpd to act as a proxy for my internet for those connected machines? And also so I can connect to other machines on my 192.168.1.* network?
[00:54] <tripelb> Is there any way to reorder "tabs" in the panel? (gnome-classic)
[00:55] <marcos_> usr13: I allready open a port with ufw but When I run nmap it says that this port it's closed
[00:55] <Beldar> urgodfather, resolution is good everything works as expected? Only thing missing is the splash at boot?
[00:55] <urgodfather> Beldar: sorry for the generic answer, but i dont know what exactly i should look for
[00:55] <urgodfather> Beldar: yeah no splash, and cannot get audio over hdmi
[00:56] <Guest43958> sounds like its time to start hdmibuntu
[00:56] <MarchHare> Related: I've tried tinkering with the routing tables on the server to route from 192.168.3.* to 192.168.1.*, but it doesn't seem to work.
[00:56] <Beldar> urgodfather, If all that I just asked is correct my assumption is the graphic drivers you would need are installed.
[00:56] <usr13> marcos_: sudo ufw show
[00:57] <urgodfather> Beldar: how do i fix the audio issue then?
[00:57] <Beldar> urgodfather, Not sure there, there is a sound wiki hough.
[00:58] <Beldar> !sound | urgodfather
[00:59] <marcos_> usr13: I think it's already look http://paste.ubuntu.com/6538178/ but when I reun nmap it says "69/tcp closed tftp
[01:00] <usr13> marcos_: By default, all ports are open.  The firewall us used to close open ports.  If there is no service listening on a particular port, there would be no response from that port and no reason to take steps to close it.  nmap 192.168.1.*  #To show all PCs on your LAN, (including the one you are on). netstat -tunlp  #Will show local ports
[01:02] <urgodfather> Beldar: and to fix plymouth?
[01:02] <arooni-mobile> i cant use control + shift + keystrokes in ubuntu 13.10.  apparently others too: http://askubuntu.com/questions/363987/how-to-enable-paste-function-with-ctrl-shift-v-in-ubuntu-13-10 ... anyone know how to fix?
[01:02] <marcos_> usr13: thank you !
[01:02] <Beldar> urgodfather, Not sure there either, I would be careful though, it is a small thing, I would not even worry myself.
[01:03] <Dhruv0> I need help install dotnet20 on a x64 using winetricks
[01:04] <urgodfather> Beldar: if it were for just for me, i would be fine.. however im making a microdistro
[01:04] <urgodfather> using ubuntu as the backbone
[01:04] <usr13> marcos_: netstat -ln  #A little different output, helps you understand what the ports are doing, what is listening behind them.
[01:04] <urgodfather> started with minimal install
[01:04] <Beldar> urgodfather, Is that really a smart option, why would you need to?
[01:05] <teolino72> gigi
[01:05] <usr13> marcos_: netstat -aptn
[01:05] <usr13> another prospective  ^^^
[01:05] <Casey> Hey, I am having trouble on the advanced partitioner when trying to add Ubuntu to my system.
[01:06] <usr13> Casey: Can you be more specific?
[01:06] <urgodfather> make a microdistro? b/c i'm going to release it as an "unofficial" alternative to one of the key elements that i use
[01:06] <Casey> Yeah, it says I need to add a root area, and I can't figure out how to do that.
[01:07] <usr13> Casey: It is saying that you have yet to allocate a partition for /  ( / is the root directory, basically where applications are placed).
[01:07] <Casey> So do I just add a new partition and call it that?
[01:07] <Beldar> urgodfather, Ah, well there are other ways to get self fulfillment that might be more of a help for society, like volunteering for an organization or many other ways, but you have your dream good luck. ;)
[01:07] <usr13> Casey: Traditioally, we use /  and  /home  and swap  (sometimes more sometimes only /  and swap )
[01:08] <Casey> Should I have it set as primary or logical?
[01:09] <usr13> Casey: Doesn't matter.   We often like to have a separate /  (or root directory) so that applications and their config files are separate from our /home/ partition.
[01:09] <arooni-mobile> i cant use control + shift + keystrokes in ubuntu 13.10.  apparently others too: http://askubuntu.com/questions/363987/how-to-enable-paste-function-with-ctrl-shift-v-in-ubuntu-13-10 ... anyone know how to fix?\
[01:09] <usr13> Casey: A partition is a partition, (no matter if it is logical or primary).
[01:09] <Dhruv0> Please someone help with using winetricks to install dotnet20 on a Ubuntu x64
[01:09] <Beldar> urgodfather, I'm sorry but when I see someone trying to make a a new distro with the 100's out there I have a hard time believing it is not just a ego thing, and not really needed is all.
[01:09] <Casey> Okay, was just wondering, thanks!
[01:09] <usr13> Casey: NP
[01:10] <urgodfather> Beldar: isnt the purpose of open source to share freely, encourage modification, alteration, customization, and re-distribution for others to use who have similar desires? its not a matter of self fulfillment, but if it were. who are you to judge?
[01:10] <urgodfather> Beldar: im working on a minimal htpc build
[01:10] <urgodfather> geez
[01:10] <usr13> Casey: You probably want the largest partition for /home/   The root partition needs to be large enough for any applications you want to install, maybe 20G or 40G
[01:10] <Beldar> urgodfather, Just saying, and by the way you are judging me, welcome to the club, we all do it. ;)
[01:11] <Guest43958> urgodfather: and fight the jealous hordes afterwards for the rest of your life
[01:11] <Casey> How much would you suggest is needed at start? I had a disk failure in the OS and am trying to just recover everything right now, and then going to resize everything once I have gotten the files I need and such.
[01:12] <urgodfather> using, gnome as the DE instead of kde, and some of the said features are not supported by offical routes. but it would make for a nice live boot
[01:13] <usr13> Casey: How much for / ?    Well, depends on how big your Hard Drive is I guess....
[01:13] <mdpatrick> daftykins: Thanks! That helped
[01:13] <urgodfather> that has all the bells and whistles that users want without having to manually configure these said 3rd party addons
[01:13] <usr13> Casey: What size is your HD?
[01:14] <Beldar> urgodfather, There are psycholgy schema's that suggest all that we do is to serve ourselves in the end in anyway in some way.
[01:14] <Casey> Right now I can hold 300 something gbs, but windows is holding like 99% of it for storage use, so I have like the 9 gb's from the windows os to use.
[01:15] <usr13> Casey: So, how much space is left for the Ubuntu install?
[01:15] <Casey> 9 gbs.
[01:15] <usr13> Casey: Only 9G for the Ubuntu install?
[01:16] <Casey> At the time right now, yeah, I am trying to recover my files before I free up the other 300 gb's.
[01:16] <usr13> Casey: That is not enough.  That's your problem, you need more space.  20G at least
[01:16] <Casey> Gosh darnit, that's a bummer.
[01:16] <usr13> Casey: But if 9G is all you have to work with, just go with 2 partitions.  How much RAM do you have?
[01:17] <Casey> I believe 2.5 gbs.
[01:17] <usr13> Casey: Make one partition for swap, 2.5G  and the rest for /
[01:17] <Casey> Ok thanks.
[01:17] <usr13> Casey: So, you will only use 2 partitions.
[01:18] <usr13> Casey: ... for the Ubuntu install.
[01:18] <urgodfather> Beldar: yeah, im familiar… it also parallels with the concept of narcicsm in a sense where one looks for the opportunity to toot their own horn… some generally call it conceited
[01:18] <urgodfather> or cocky
[01:18] <syeekick> could someone point me to the package needed for a Radeon HD 6850 drivers for 12.04 ubuntu. I'm using the ones ubuntu stocked in the additional drivers gui , but they all under perform.
[01:19] <Beldar> syeekick, graphics are not linux's strongest point, many sre not even releaseed for linux but ported or reverse engineered, make sure you goals are realistic.
[01:19] <Beldar> s/are/your
[01:20] <Guest43958> virtualization?
[01:20] <syeekick> the 6850 is fully supported
[01:21] <Beldar> syeekick, And are you running that support?
[01:22] <syeekick> i have no idea what that means
[01:23] <genl> i install ubuntu 12.04 and it boots up black screen
[01:23] <genl> is this a common graphics card problem?
[01:24] <Beldar> syeekick, Have you tried the fglrx?
[01:24] <syeekick> yeah they are poo
[01:24] <syeekick> i wanted to install the ones from the amd webiste, but it hasn't got a detailed readme like nvidia has
[01:24] <Beldar> syeekick, You said there is support, that makes it seem you know what it is, so I asked are you using it.
[01:25] <syeekick> yeah still dont get it, i read some where that the card works well in ubuntu
[01:26] <Beldar> syeekick, Technically the channel does not support proprietary drivers is all, does not mean you wont get help, just realize the limitations and whether you will get support if it breaks.
[01:27] <syeekick> oh i see
[01:28] <Beldar> syeekick, My guess there is a thread or threads on this card on the ubuntu forums and or askubuntu and using the AMD drivers.
[01:29] <daftykins> !ati | syeekick
[01:29] <daftykins> read that?
[01:30] <physicist> Greetings...
[01:31] <physicist> I've got an problem when try to compile amd driver on 3.12.3 kernel. Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.12.3-031203-generic  -- I do not know what to do.
[01:33] <juhandi> hallo.. can u help me..?
[01:33] <daftykins> you have to ask something first
[01:34] <daftykins> sadly nobody's been able to compile the IRC mindreader add-on thus far
[01:34] <juhandi> how into other drive using terminal
[01:34] <syeekick> im running ati drivers already and im trying to execute the .run file for propertiary drivers and its asking for me to uninstall the previous ones before continung. whats the command to disable current driveres?
[01:35] <physicist> syeekick: follow the uninstalling instructions: http://askubuntu.com/questions/129597/how-do-i-fix-my-installation-of-ati-catalyst-video-driver-in-12-04-lts
[01:35] <physicist> daftykins: So, I cannot compile it or install .deb packages?
[01:36] <daftykins> physicist: i wasn't talking about your issue, it was a joke ;)
[01:36] <physicist> daftykins: Hum..
[01:40] <Beldar> physicist, What release are you running?
[01:41] <physicist> Beldar: Raring 13.04 - kernel 3.12.3
[01:41] <Casey> Hey, I just installed Ubuntu, but when I get to the login screen, it disappears to the purple color background.
[01:42] <physicist> Beldar: Trying to install 13.11 beta ati driver
[01:42] <Beldar> physicist, Ah I'm on 14.04 and just wondered if you were, not release kernels are technically not supported is all and problems with them.
[01:43] <physicist> ImportError: No module named apport Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.12.3-031203-generic (x86_64)
[01:44] <locoloco> juhandi: what are you trying to accomplish?
[01:44] <Casey> So yeah, does anybody know how to fix my problem?
[01:45] <MarchHare> Question: I have PPTPd set up on my machine, and it works. Is there a tutorial/explanation for how to get the mostly default pptpd to act as a proxy for my internet for those connected machines? And also so I can connect to other machines on my 192.168.1.* network?
[01:48] <vedrit> Is there a way to fix for doing "chmod 644 /" that doesn't require a complete re-isntall?
[01:48] <usr13> !nomodeset | Casey
[01:48] <Casey> Ubottu: Thanks
[01:49] <vedrit> okay, fail typing on my part. Is there a way to fix ' chmod 644 / ' that does not require a complete re-install?
[01:50] <usr13> vedrit:
[01:50] <usr13> Change Permissions to files only:  "find . -type f -print | xargs chmod 644"
[01:50] <usr13> vedrit: Change Permissions to directories only: "find . -type d -print | xrags chmod 755"
[01:51] <usr13> vedrit: Directories should be 755 and files should be 644
[01:51] <zykotick9> vedrit: i'd say - reinstall...
[01:51] <usr13> vedrit: So if it is all 644, just change the directories to 755
[01:52] <vedrit> and this is executable in grub? I had loaded in a graphical interface, since I'm not confident about doing everything in command line. Unfortunately, that means the system doesn't load up so I can't open a terminal
[01:54] <vedrit> zykotick9: I was specifically wanting to avoid doing a re-install. Thus why I asked for a solution that did not require re-installing.
[01:55] <zykotick9> vedrit: i think you're just wasting your time...
[01:55] <zykotick9> vedrit: good luck.  i hope i'm wrong.
[01:55] <usr13> zykotick9: Let him be the judge of that.
[01:55] <iceroot> vedrit: reinstall and learn for the future to not be root on the shell if not needed
[01:56] <usr13> iceroot: Or, learn to fix what you break.
[01:56] <iceroot> usr13: not possible in that case
[01:56] <jeffrey_f> I'm playing with 'mail'.  I get "Please install an MTA on this system if you want to use sendmail!"  Suggestions?
[01:56] <vedrit> usr13: can the commands that you listed executable in GRUB?
[01:56] <iceroot> usr13: or "learn to make a backup"
[01:56] <zykotick9> usr13: do you have any idea how many files, with different permission, would be involved here?
[01:56] <iceroot> usr13: that system is destroyed
[01:56] <usr13> zykotick9: Quite a few
[01:57] <zykotick9> iceroot: +1
[01:57] <MarchHare> So, does anyone have a moment for a network, routing, and vpn question?
[01:57] <usr13> MarchHare: Sure
[01:57] <vedrit> with how long it took to install Ubuntu the first time, I'd rather try and fix it. I don't exactly have an entire day to sit around waiting for the installer to load
[01:58] <usr13> iceroot: He can fix it if he wants to. It is up to him.
[01:58] <MarchHare> usr13: Do you know anything about setting up the pptpd to pass through connections from 192.168.3.2->192.168.3.1 (vpn server) ->192.168.1.2 (server's real nic)->router gateway->internet at large?
[01:58] <eddy> 我安装的是ubuntu 13.10，为什么下载完winneqq后安装不了，出现错误提示。
[01:58] <iceroot> vedrit: install another system, get the package list of your current system, install the same packages on the new system, create a list of all permissions with gezfacl, load that list to the destroyed system and set them with setfacl
[01:59] <MarchHare> usr13: Right now, I can connect to the vpn server and get the 192.168.3.2 address and talk to 192.168.3.1 just fine, but nothing on the 192.168.1.* net
[01:59] <iceroot> vedrit: getfacl
[01:59] <eddy> hello:有中文的吗？
[01:59] <kriskropd> !jp ?
[01:59] <vedrit> iceroot: how would I load that list into the "destroyed" system if I can't do anything with said system beyond what I can do in GRUB?
[01:59] <MarchHare> usr13: It's probably a routing problem for me, but I'm not super sure on what I need to do to the routing tables to make it work.
[02:00] <usr13> iceroot: zykotick9 You guys are right in advising a re-install, it is probably the best way, but if he puts some work into it, he could fix it.
[02:00] <eddy> hai!有懂中文的吗？
[02:00] <iceroot> vedrit: live cd with chroot
[02:00] <usr13> iceroot: Yep
[02:00] <iceroot> vedrit: just reinstall
[02:00] <kriskropd> !ubuntu-jp
[02:00] <moondog> but chmod is not recursive by default
[02:00] <vedrit> iceroot: which brings us back to, I don't have an entire day to wait for it to load
[02:00] <iceroot> vedrit: and learn for the future to make backups and to not use a root shell
[02:01]  * kriskropd pokes ubottu
[02:01] <kriskropd> is he borken again tonight?
[02:01] <moondog> so it'd only be the first level directories that would be hosed
[02:01] <zykotick9> !jp | kriskropd
[02:01] <iceroot> vedrit: there is no other way, you have to reinstall your current system or install another system to make a clone of the permissions
[02:01] <moondog> unless of course he did a chmod -R
[02:01] <kriskropd> eddy ^^
[02:02] <vedrit> Eddy isn't speaking in Japanese. Near as I can tell, that's Chinese
[02:02] <iceroot> vedrit: did you use chmod -R?
[02:02] <kriskropd> !ch
[02:02] <stunis> I'm using dwm and lightdm but I don't know how to get the code in my xinitrc ( which sets my xrandr settings and calls my dwm-startup script) in the config for lightdm. (I used to use slim and just did it in the slim.conf, but lightdm is far harder
[02:02]  * kriskropd facepalm - poor guy
[02:02] <vedrit> iceroot: no, the exact command I used was "sudo chmod 644 /"
[02:03] <Stanley00> !cn | eddy
[02:03] <PatrickDickey> Why?
[02:04] <usr13> iceroot: Good point.  If he did not use the -R switch, he is not in near as much touble....
[02:04] <iceroot> vedrit: boot the system with a live cd, mount the damaged system and use chmod 755 /  (/ = root of mounted drive)
[02:04] <moondog> right
[02:04]  * PatrickDickey can't say too much. I did a sudo chmod -Rh (or something like that) on a subdirectory, and it changed permissions everywhere because of symbolic links.
[02:04] <moondog> I've done chmod .*
[02:04] <usr13> vedrit: Do as iceroot says, you will more than likely fix your problem easily.
[02:04] <iceroot> PatrickDickey: not symlinks but because it used also ..
[02:05] <moondog> that really sucks too... cause it traverses backwards all over the place
[02:05] <vedrit> okay, I'll give that a shot
[02:05] <Stanley00> stunis: you can try make a .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions/
[02:05] <PatrickDickey> That's why I keep almost all of my important stuff on a server, and I don't play around on that.
[02:05] <iceroot> moondog: i did that as well :)
[02:06] <PatrickDickey> Dare I ask what chmod .* would do? (I'm not going to try it to find out).
[02:06] <vedrit> heh, I was wondering why mt recovery disk wasn't getting loaded. I put it in upside down. Heh... not my night
[02:06] <usr13> PatrickDickey: Nothing
[02:06] <iceroot> PatrickDickey: using ..
[02:06] <kriskropd> stunis: I'm using dwm and setting up info in ~/.xsessionrc - I'm not using slim or ligthdm though (jsut plain old startx)
[02:06] <moondog> well unfortunately the .. fits that criteria
[02:06] <moondog> which goes back a level
[02:07] <moondog> ends up really screwing you
[02:07] <stunis> I attempted to Stanley00, but it didn't work
[02:07] <moondog> I think mine was actually chmod -R .*
[02:08] <Stanley00> stunis: can you give more details on what did you do?
[02:08] <vedrit> All this just to get Mono to work properly and load .aspx pages
[02:08] <usr13> moondog: It would depend on where you were at the time.
[02:08] <usr13> moondog: But the command as you just stated it, will do nothing.
[02:09] <macxs> hello, i am having a problem in whicb i am unable to connect to wifi in certain networks (i.e. I can connect in one cafe, but not in my home or in an other cafe that I have connected to before and know the password)
[02:09] <moondog> oh well... of course I specified the permissions
[02:09] <Stanley00> stunis: maybe there's dwm.desktop at /usr/share/xsessions/, you can use that as a template for your custom desktop file
[02:09] <MarchHare> usr13: Since you don't seem to be answering, which would be a good channel for my question?
[02:09] <stunis> I'll have a look Stanley
[02:10] <usr13> MarchHare: Was waiting for someone else to pick you up.  But we really don't have enough information to give you any specific advise
[02:10] <eddy>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[02:10] <usr13> MarchHare: You could also try ##linux
[02:10] <stunis> No, there isn't. I'll upload my files
[02:11] <locoloco> macxs: what's the encryption?
[02:11] <usr13> macxs: Can you morph that into a question of some sort?
[02:12] <jmgk> hi all
[02:12] <MarchHare> usr13: I appreciate it. I'll ask there and see if they have any advice.
[02:13] <Stanley00> stunis: and upload the output of "ls -l /usr/share/xsessions/" and "dpkg -L dwm"
[02:13] <usr13> macxs: (We do not have enough information to give you any specific advise.)
[02:13] <PatrickDickey> MarchHare: This might not help you, but the closest I can come up with is for an Amahi Home Server.  But the information is for Ubuntu, so it might work (the setting up IP forwarding portion) https://wiki.amahi.org/index.php/OpenVPN
[02:13] <macxs> locoloco, usr13: Made question: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20449058/ubuntu-13-10-connects-to-certain-wifi-wireless-networks-only and as for the encryption, i'm not sure. I'm not actually at one of those places now
[02:14] <tripelb> Here I am 12.04-gnome-classic slow as molasses. I have a live usage graph in the panel and can see CPU usage and easily see memory and cache. Is someone interested in helping me. Chrome brings things even slower. I havent got chrome started yet and I killed all the windows so It will start up with just one. (Bendar claims it is my 1G RAM Intel computer but I have used this much RAM on various computers since 2006 (Ubuntu 6.04 began my use
[02:14] <tripelb>  of it) and this is different. I have ALWAYS used a lot of chrome windows.
[02:14] <vedrit> macxs: there could be a number of reasons why you can't connect to different networks. Encryption mismatch, transmission mode mismatch, password mismatch, protocol mismatch
[02:15] <macxs> vedrit - so you recomment I get home, connect to ethernet, then figure out why i can't get on the wifi?
[02:15] <stunis> Stanley00, http://pastebin.com/gZGzNKZq
[02:15] <PatrickDickey> macxs: You said you can't connect to your home wifi?
[02:16] <macxs> PatrickDicket - correct. But i can connect at this house i'm at now
[02:16] <usr13> macxs: The network-manager should should make the connection for you, if you provide proper perameters, (encryption key, etc.)
[02:16] <vedrit> macxs: not necessarily. If you are manually configuring the connection info, you may want to double-check what the access points settings are.
[02:16] <locoloco> macxs: see your phone for the encryption and confirmed pw and double check the items that vedrit: pointed out.
[02:16] <tripelb> now chrome started, loaded ONE page - which used 100% of the cpu for 30 secs. The problem I was having before is that chrome wouldnt ignore pages that had been loaded for a while and wwere not being accessed.  30 secs
[02:16]  * vedrit is happy he contributed
[02:17] <MarchHare> PatrickDickey: It might help. I really just need to see some sample configurations to see if I'm missing some routing stuff, or if I just need to tell pptp to set routes, etc
[02:17] <macxs> locoloco: at the cafe, the internet generally connects without a password then when i open a browser page it asks me for the password in there. It's not doing anyh of that though after I click the network icon
[02:18] <usr13> macxs: There are a number of possibilities or reasons you would not be able to connect to a particular network. One may be a limitation of the hardware you are using, but at any rate, it is something you work out via the network-manager.  If you supply the correct connection information, you should be able to connect.
[02:18] <locoloco> macxs: that sounds like a hotspot!
[02:18] <Stanley00> stunis: please upload the output of "ls -l /usr/share/xsessions/" and "dpkg -L dwm"
[02:19] <stunis> Stanley00, http://pastebin.com/eZyTU2gB
[02:19] <vedrit> macxs: that's all stuff that happens after the connection is made between you and the AP. What you (somewhat) described earlier was that you weren't connecting to your home WiFi
[02:19] <stunis> There
[02:19] <Stanley00> stunis: got it
[02:20] <Vivekananda> anyone can tell me good tools to convert vob files to other format ? I wanted to know 1. fast tools 2. good quality conversion tools
[02:20] <macxs> so at a cafe for instance how should i handle that network configuration stuff? Should I ask the barista or look at something on my phone?
[02:20] <usr13> vedrit: If you can post an image of the network-manager window as you are attempting to configure the connection, it might give us a clue as to what you are doing wrong.  Other than that, I don't know.
[02:21] <locoloco> macxs: ubuntu/network-manager has no input on that password. That's handled through the browser. Consult the network admin of the cafe.
[02:21] <usr13> macxs: If you can post an image of the network-manager window as you are attempting to configure the connection, it might give us a clue as to what you are doing wrong.  Other than that, I don't know.
[02:21] <macxs> locoloco: lol the network admin of the cafe. I will be sucha  nerd
[02:21] <macxs> usr13 - Ok well i will be back here another time
[02:21] <vedrit> macxs: most of the time, you can simply allow the device to automatically configure the connection, and it will ask for a password/passcode if necessary
[02:21] <Stanley00> stunis: just look at /usr/share/xsessions/dwm.desktop and make a custom session as you need.
[02:21] <usr13> macxs: Okeydokey
[02:22] <macxs> vedrit: that's what i;ve been tryin ...
[02:22] <wad> How do you set preferred applications on 13.10?
[02:22] <vedrit> macxs: Okay. In that case, yeah, use your phone to find the proper configuration, ask someone who would know, or check the device if you can
[02:23] <Stanley00> stunis: first, run "cd /usr/share/xsessions/ && sudo cp dwm.desktop dwm-custom.desktop && gksu gedit dwm-custom.desktop", edit the file, save, and log in to dwm custom session
[02:23] <macxs> vedrit: k thanks
[02:23] <anunakki> time to setup some xen arrays on my ubuntu-server i upgraded to 13.10 so it better work this time, was really annoying last time
[02:23] <anunakki> lol
[02:23] <anunakki> anyone have any experience with xen & ubuntu?
[02:23] <usr13> wad: I think right-click and open with is basically what you are looking for, but it depends on the file-manager you use.
[02:24] <wad> I'd like to set the default browser.
[02:24] <wad> Right now it's firefox, I'd rather it was chrome.
[02:24] <anunakki> lol
[02:24] <usr13> wad: It's a file-by-file process.
[02:24] <anunakki> cant you just run chrome
[02:24] <wad> So that when I click a link in thunderbird, it opens chrome.
[02:24] <anunakki> and set it
[02:24] <anunakki> when it asks you
[02:24] <FloodBot1> anunakki: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:24] <anunakki> :)
[02:24] <wad> I'll try that again, thanks.
[02:24] <anunakki> wow, i must type too fast, and didn't put my words into a sentance fast enough
[02:24] <vedrit> arg, darn live disc isn't running...
[02:24] <usr13> wad: That is an issue of which is your default browser
[02:24] <anunakki> yea wad, run chrome, and if it doesnt display the message let me know
[02:25] <anunakki> wad
[02:25] <anunakki> cause you can go to system info
[02:25] <anunakki> default applications
[02:25] <anunakki> and set your browser
[02:25] <anunakki> from firefox to chrome
[02:25] <FloodBot1> anunakki: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:25] <stunis> Stanley00, where do I save it?
[02:25] <wad> Yeah, that was what I was looking for
[02:25] <anunakki> http://askubuntu.com/questions/79305/how-do-i-change-my-default-browser
[02:25] <anunakki> should give you the answer for that wad
[02:25] <usr13> anunakki: Slow down, don't use Enter key as punctuation.
[02:25] <stunis> to the xsessions file?
[02:25] <wad> I wasn't able to find "system info" though...
[02:26] <Stanley00> stunis: just press save button, it's already stay where it should be :D
[02:26] <wad> I see "system settings"
[02:26] <anunakki> lol holy crap, i definitely need to slow down, sorry about that :)
[02:26] <usr13> anunakki: Periods and commas and question marks are perfectly legal in on any IRC channel.
[02:27] <anunakki> haha, i know, i only type like that when I dont sit and think out my sentances, since irc is live, i tend to find myself typing as i think and i use enter more than punctuation
[02:27] <anunakki> i can adjust, no worries
[02:27] <stunis> Stanley00, "(gksu:8763): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_str_has_prefix: assertion `str != NULL' failed"
[02:27] <Stanley00> stunis: notice that you must change the "Name" and "Exec" config in that file
[02:27] <Stanley00> stunis: if gedit appear, don't worry about that *CRITICAL*
[02:27] <usr13> wad: Is your question:  How do I set chrome as default browser?
[02:28] <vedrit> good grief... this is why I was avoiding re-installing. It takes for ever for the disc to do anything
[02:28] <usr13> wad: If so, see:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/96080/how-to-set-google-chrome-as-the-default-browser
[02:29] <anunakki> wad, check system settings, you're on 13.10 it may be different, i use windows for my personal desktop, my girlfriend has the ubuntu machine in this house, she'd probably be able to answer the question better than i could
[02:29] <anunakki> i use ubuntu-server with fluxbox on my dedicated machine
[02:29] <stunis> Stanley00, gedit didn't appear, maybe I should try Geany?
[02:29] <anunakki> and wad
[02:29] <usr13> anunakki: Never send a man to do a womans job!@
[02:29] <Stanley00> stunis: yep, try geany then :D
[02:29] <anunakki> its in system settings
[02:29] <anunakki> wad, system settings > details
[02:30] <anunakki> set default browser to chromium
[02:31] <anunakki> usr13, i agree entirely, she actually knew nothing of linux before she met me, but now she operates like a pro on the ubuntu install i setup for her
[02:31] <anunakki> however, i don't like unity, and i felt like it was too different for her to adjust properly to it, so i installed cairo-dock and just removed unity's dock
[02:32] <usr13> anunakki: Awesome!  Good for her.  (You must have a pretty smart girlfriend!)
[02:32] <anunakki> i find she uses it like a mac more than anything, she's still not terminal ready, but she can use the machine just fine with her dock :)
[02:32] <boggle> Issue with key mapping on new keyboard: http://pastebin.com/QUT0hXG1
[02:32] <anunakki> yea, she is quite intelligent, and to be honest, she's really not that tech savvy, but if you give someone the right setup, something they're used to using (sort of) then they'll pick it up no problem
[02:33] <anunakki> now i'm just abusing commas
[02:33] <anunakki> god i am horrible with my punctuation
[02:33] <usr13> anunakki: You never really know, some take to a new OS like Ubuntu like a duck to water, others just don't get it.
[02:35] <anunakki> lol, i've noticed if you give a person cairo-dock, they are more likely to have at it and learn. i mean you can literally make it look exactly like OS X, but i gave her a sexy theme to use for it and she's been learning more and more ever since.
[02:36] <usr13> cool
[02:36] <anunakki> man i am struggling to virtualize properly on my machine, i am far too used to freebsd jails
[02:36] <stunis> Stanley00, I'm confused as to what I put in that file
[02:36] <anunakki> for this libvirt, etc.. i remember when linux just used debootstrap to virtualize
[02:37] <AB49K> I never got the Unity interface, it always tripped me up, but the xfce interface just felt right from the start :)
[02:37] <anunakki> now they've got a ton of what are basically wrappers, using debootstrap
[02:37] <anunakki> to over complicate the damn process for me
[02:37] <anunakki> ewww i hate xfce :P
[02:37] <AB49K> I just always found it way nicer - I even installed it over unity in my high power systems :)
[02:37] <anunakki> tbh, i am personally a fluxbox fan for any of my *nix desktops, i don't care which flavor i'm running, i'm probably most likely going to install fluxbox or openbox
[02:38] <Stanley00> stunis: first, change the "Name=Dwm" to "Name=DwmCustom". This is what show up in the session list.
[02:38] <anunakki> i dont need a dock either, so simply fluxbox.. done
[02:38] <anunakki> lol
[02:38] <anunakki> you should try fluxbox, it is perfect, so lightweight, yet entirely customizable and easy as ever to use
[02:38] <AB49K> I've used openbox, but not tried fluxbox
[02:38] <anunakki> i've used them all tbh, and fluxbox and i have just come to a mutal agreement over the years
[02:39] <Stanley00> stunis: then make a script, that will execute whatever you want when starting dwm, including dwm, then change "Exec=dwm" to "Exec=/path/to/your/script"
[02:40] <argentum> hey guys
[02:41] <anunakki> hello argentum
[02:41] <AB49K> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfFTOUfhOu8
[02:41] <AB49K> Australia :')
[02:42] <argentum> hey guys i'm having an issue, I'd like a little help
[02:42] <argentum> :(
[02:42] <argentum> Hello
[02:42] <AB49K> Shoot, I'll help if I can :) I'm not a guru though :P
[02:42] <argentum> ok
[02:42] <stunis> Don't ask to ask, ask your question and stop using multiple lines please argentum
[02:43] <usr13> argentum: And your question is __________________?
[02:43] <argentum> thank you. Ok. So I'm on xcfe on ubuntu 13.10. i386.. I recently attempted to install chrome from their .deb and it installed just fine
[02:44] <argentum> but when I open it, it appears in to be running as a process, but no windows appear
[02:44] <AB49K> Gonna sounds like a cliche, but have you tries restarting the computer?
[02:45] <AB49K> *tried
[02:45] <argentum> I then removed it, and followed instructions to install it in terminal by adding the repository (non-free) and used the dpkg -i command to install it. same thing happened.. I've removed the repositories, re added them, and installed again.. to no avail.
[02:45] <argentum> I'll restart again
[02:48] <imposssible> hi im trying to fix a black screen boot problem. how do i insert commands to fix drivers if its black
[02:48] <imposssible> do i boot a usb?
[02:49] <usr13> !nomodeset | imposssible
[02:49] <AB49K> How'd it go argentum?
[02:49] <argentum> doesn't work
[02:50] <AB49K> Have you tried installing it using apt-get?
[02:50] <argentum> yea
[02:50] <usr13> imposssible: You have to catch the grub screen, follow the link and read.
[02:50] <argentum> I added the repositories and installed it that way, did not work
[02:50] <AB49K> you did dpkg -i chromium-browser.deb? to install it?
[02:51] <argentum> well, I'm going to install chromium, I guess. Will all of the chrome add-ons work properly for chromium?
[02:51] <imposssible> usr13: thanks. i get uefi type of screen
[02:52] <usr13> !eufi | imposssible
[02:52] <AB49K> Yeah, from what I understand chromium is just a recompilation of chrome - it looks the same and works the same, I've never had problems with it
[02:52] <usr13> !uefi | imposssible
[02:53] <argentum> http://askubuntu.com/questions/79280/how-to-install-chrome-browser-properly-via-command-line     This is the process I used
[02:53] <RunsWithFiskars> has anyone found a workaround for installing linux on the new sony vaio computers? the UEFI screws everything up
[02:54] <xangua> AB49K: chromium is the opensource project in with Google chrome is based, not the otherwise
[02:54] <usr13> argentum: What not use the package manager?
[02:55] <AB49K> Oh, okay, thanks xangua :) You learn something every day :D
[02:55] <RunsWithFiskars> Can anyone help?
[02:56] <PatrickDickey> RunsWithFiskars: Can you boot to the disc?
[02:56] <argentum> usr13: Do you mean the software center? I tried installing from the .deb package from ) has joined ) has joined https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/ as well
[02:56] <RunsWithFiskars> Yes.  I'm actually running ubuntu from a usb
[02:56] <PatrickDickey> RunsWithFiskars: Are you in UEFI mode, or CSM Mode?
[02:57] <RunsWithFiskars> But I'd like to not have to constantly run it from a usb/cd
[02:57] <PatrickDickey> !uefi | RunsWithFiskars
[02:57] <RunsWithFiskars> ubottu: thanks
[02:57] <PatrickDickey> You can try the steps there. ;) Personally, what I ended up doing (and am going to try again) is installing Ubuntu Server, as my computer won't even boot to the disc in UEFI mode.
[02:58] <RunsWithFiskars> patrickdicky: thanks.. I'll keep messing around with it
[02:58] <usr13> argentum: sudo apt-get install chromium
[02:58]  * PatrickDickey POS won't even boot to any disc in UEFI mode...
[02:58] <RunsWithFiskars> patrickdickey: except finals are coming up so I'll have to try it during christmas break lol
[02:58] <argentum> running: "sudo apt-get install chromium-browser" now
[03:00] <AB49K> http://www.garyshood.com/root/
[03:03] <Payton> Hello, how do I install guest additions on VirtualBox? I am using Windows 8 and my Virtual machine is running ubuntu 64 bit.
[03:03] <argentum> Payton:that's a good question
[03:04] <AB49K> Go to the menu bar and in there you should find "Install guest Additions" It'll want to download another ISO I beleive... It's been a while since I used virtualbox
[03:05] <Payton> I checked, I don't have that option
[03:05] <Payton> I've been searching all day
[03:05] <AB49K> http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#idp57519312
[03:05] <AB49K> Have you tried this?
[03:06] <argentum> Payton:http://askubuntu.com/questions/22743/how-do-i-install-guest-additions-in-virtualbox
[03:07] <Blackweb> Anyone here familiar with Ubuntu 12.04
[03:08] <Payton> I do have a insert guest additions CD image option but it doesnt do anything when i click on the CD on my Virtual Machine
[03:09] <usr13> Payton: I suppose it would need to be mounted
[03:09] <locoloco> Blackweb: what about 12.04?
[03:10] <Payton> usr13: I have mounted it
[03:10] <Blackweb> I've been using 12.04 for like 2yrs, & just barely I needed to mount a exfat SDcard so I went online googled it
[03:10] <Blackweb> installed the right fuser-exfat then like 10 mins later system crashed
[03:11] <Blackweb> now it wont boot
[03:11] <Blackweb> I keep getting Unable to connect to the system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket:
[03:11] <Blackweb> and it just hangs
[03:12] <locoloco> Blackweb: can you reach the HDD thru live-CD?
[03:12] <demonspork> Hello everyone. I have an Ubuntu system that someone completely messed up grub, not entirely sure what all they did. Well, at this point I managed to walk them booting into a live environment and I have ssh access to the live environment
[03:13] <Blackweb> Trying that right now,  cause I went into the recovery section and its only in ReadOnly
[03:13] <Beldar> demonspork, run the bootrepair app and save the bootinfo summary.
[03:13] <Blackweb> I hope I hope I can salvage whats on the Hard Drive, Cant really Believe it,
[03:13] <demonspork> one SSD in the system /dev/sda1 seems to be a /boot parition, /dev/sda2 won't mount saying it doesn't have a valid NTFS (using mount -a) and /dev/sda5 says "unkown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[03:14] <Payton> Can't wait until ubuntu 14.04 in 2014
[03:14] <Payton> :)
[03:15] <Beldar> demonspork, can you see if the partitions are even showing?
[03:15] <Blackweb> locoloco, LiveCD seems to be hanging right now, Would there be anything you'd recommend checking first
[03:16] <demonspork> Beldar: the partitions are showing: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6538624/
[03:17] <locoloco> Blackweb: fsck, comes to mind.
[03:18] <Beldar> demonspork, Is the boot partition filled up and maybe a kernel load failed, so an earlier kernel might boot it.
[03:19] <demonspork> Beldar: no, 13% used
[03:19] <Blackweb> I'll try that, but yea its weird - after it finished installing the package it needed for exfat then I started coping stuff to SD-Card then like 10 mins later it just crashed
[03:20] <Payton> Yaaay it's installing guest additions
[03:20] <locoloco> Blackweb: did you install thru apt-get exfat-utils or ppa?
[03:20] <Blackweb> Is Ubuntu 13.0 alot better in comparsion to 12.04
[03:21] <Payton> 13.10
[03:21] <Payton> Yes
[03:21] <Payton> I like it
[03:21] <dannymichel> I have a valid copy of Windows, but is Virtualbox considered another computer and against the TOS?
[03:21] <Beldar> demonspork, Are you ssh'd to the desktop or a livecd?
[03:21] <sam113101> I want to setup a bootloader on my usb thumb drive so I can choose between multiple lived cds to boot from, is that hard to do?
[03:21] <Payton> dannymichel: You still need an activation key
[03:21] <knightshade> Blackweb: some people call it spyware :>
[03:22] <Blackweb> I googled it, then there was 3 commands that it told me to do through terminal I update repository , then did sudo apt-get install exfat-utils
[03:22] <dannymichel> Payton, i have purchased windows
[03:22] <dannymichel> i have it installed Payton
[03:22] <Beldar> !fub | knightshade
[03:22] <locoloco> Blackweb: definitely! Lot's of updates.
[03:22] <Beldar> !fud | knightshade
[03:22] <Payton> dannymichel: Okai as long as they are the same virsion, otherwise you would have to buy another product key for that version
[03:22] <dannymichel> im asking if having it installed on Linux via virtualbox and on my triple-boot considered another computer Payton
[03:23]  * zee_hax0r says hello
[03:23] <Beldar> sam113101, Get the multisystem usb loader at pendrivelinux it does that.
[03:23] <knightshade> https://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do
[03:23] <Payton> dannymichel: Oh I think that would work but you know, trial and error
[03:23] <Beldar> knightshade, Read the fud I know all the rhetoric
[03:23] <sam113101> Beldar: can you link me to it, please?
[03:24] <Beldar> sam113101, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[03:24] <Beldar> knightshade, This is support take your fud elsewhere.
[03:25] <knightshade> I am supporting.
[03:25] <Beldar> knightshade, Not with that, please.
[03:26] <Beldar> knightshade the issue the user is having has nothing to do with your post.
[03:26] <AB49K> Richard Stallman always manages to sound and look slightly loopy :')
[03:27] <sam113101> Beldar: is it free software?
[03:28] <Beldar> sam113101, Yes, do you not have the ability to read or search the web?
[03:28] <locoloco> Blackweb: bit of a long-shot but dd the drive onto external HDD, then fresh install of either 12.04 or 13.10 and mount the external.
[03:28] <demonspork> Beldar: I am ssh'd to the livecd, we can't figure out how to get the main system booted. The partition layout is confusing me, why is there an LVM volume
[03:28] <Blackweb> Trying to Boot to a LiveCD, and it gets to the first screen of the LiveCd, But then after that it appears to just hang, with a blinking Underscore in the top left corner of screen, Which I"ve tried the Internal DVD-DRive & Now a External Drive
[03:29] <Beldar> demonspork, They installed in a lvm that is why.
[03:29] <Beldar> !nomodeset | Blackweb
[03:29] <Blackweb> yeah probably have to do that but appears that I cant get it to bring up the Livecd
[03:29] <demonspork> Beldar: at this point you think it might be easier to just wipe it and re-install if he has the data he needs?
[03:30] <locoloco> Blackweb: BIOS settings adjusted to prioritize startup from USB drive?
[03:30] <knightshade> Beldar: Integrated spyware could be a reason for a user to not like it and therefore it has todo with the question of the user
[03:31] <Blackweb> Alright checking bios now
[03:31] <Beldar> demonspork, Not sure, I'm not familiar with lvm's and any grub fixes using ine regular partitions I am familiar with. You might check the bootrepair app and lvm is all.
[03:31] <Beldar> knightshade, Hardly, go away.
[03:32] <AB49K> If you're that against it knightshade, just install debian and configure that. no need to hate on ubuntu just cause of what rms says.
[03:32] <Beldar> knightshade, You are not reading the posts.
[03:33] <knightshade> I'm not against ubuntu, but against spyware.
[03:33] <Beldar> !ops | knightshade
[03:33] <zee_hax0r> Is ubuntu a new version of Windows?
[03:34] <demonspork> zee_hax0r: !ubuntu | zee_hax0r
[03:34] <demonspork> !ubuntu | zee_hax0r
[03:34] <zee_hax0r> Wow, I did not know that Windows was now free for everone, hurray!
[03:35] <usr13> zee_hax0r: What do you mean by "Windows"?
[03:35] <Pessimist> zee_hax0r, http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[03:36] <dBLOOD> Hi people!
[03:36] <dBLOOD> Could someone help me?
[03:37] <Beldar> dBLOOD, State the issues to the channel for help.
[03:37] <locoloco> Blackweb: any luck with bios?
[03:37] <dBLOOD> I'm trying to install vlc 2.1.1.1 from repository onto xubuntu 12.04
[03:37] <dBLOOD> without any success
[03:37] <Beldar> dBLOOD, what repository?
[03:37] <dBLOOD> I have tried three different repos
[03:37] <Beldar> dBLOOD, PPA'sa
[03:37] <dBLOOD> launchpad c-korn, muenic, muenich/vlc2
[03:38] <dBLOOD> *muenich
[03:38] <Beldar> !ppa | dBLOOD
[03:38] <dBLOOD> and there was another one, a fourth, I don't remember it's name
[03:38] <dBLOOD> yes, I know all that
[03:39] <Blackweb> Testing now, it was set to boot to USB First, But then in USB Priorities a Generic one was  set first, But from the looks of it - No, I guess next thing I could try is pull hard drive and throw in this desktop
[03:39] <zee_hax0r> Is there something like Jazzbuntu?
[03:39] <Blackweb> using a external DVD Drive
[03:39] <Beldar> dBLOOD, At the least the errors you get would be pertinent. are you running a update and then trying to install?
[03:39] <dBLOOD> the question is how does this information help me install the latest version of vlc
[03:39] <dBLOOD> yes, obviously
[03:40] <dBLOOD> it would not make much sense to add a new ppa without updating the package cache
[03:40] <Beldar> dBLOOD, It is not obvious unless you say so.
[03:40] <Beldar> many do
[03:40] <dBLOOD> LOL
[03:40] <dBLOOD> I'm sorry
[03:40] <BlackBeaver> Hello
[03:41] <dBLOOD> wow, is it like cotton candy?
[03:41] <BlackBeaver> Does anybody play Starcraft here?
[03:41] <dBLOOD> brb, got to use the toilet
[03:41] <locoloco> Blackweb: may get you back up and running sooner than continued troubleshooting with current install. If drive contains any worthwhile data, remember to backup.
[03:42] <locoloco> Blackweb: good luck! Let us know if desktop solution gets things going again.
[03:42] <Beldar> dBLOOD, have you tried this one? https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/stable-daily
[03:42] <Blackweb> alright sounds good, Thanks for the help locoloco :)
[03:43] <zee_hax0r> what does brb mean?
[03:43] <BlackBeaver> brb?
[03:43] <zee_hax0r> Oui!
[03:43] <usr13> brb=be-right-back
[03:44] <dBLOOD> yeah, that was the fourth one
[03:44] <dBLOOD> sorry
[03:45] <Beldar> dBLOOD, it has 12.04 support are you getting an error?
[03:45] <Beldar> or not tried yet
[03:46] <dBLOOD> yeah, wait, I try it again, takes only a couple of minutes
[03:46] <Beldar> cool
[03:48] <dBLOOD> oh, and I have a 64bit os
[03:49] <dBLOOD> this repo gives me only some 2.0.8 git daily whatever build, not 2.1.1.1
[03:50] <dBLOOD> 2.0.8+git20131130+r49148+4+5~ubuntu12.04.1
[03:50] <usr13> dBLOOD: So, why do you need 2.1.1.1?
[03:51] <dBLOOD> oh, right, I should have started with that actually
[03:51] <dBLOOD> anyway, I need libupnp6, but sys bitching about having libupnp3, and my current vlc needs it
[03:52] <dBLOOD> but 2.1.1.1 needs libupnp6
[03:52] <usr13> !compile | dBLOOD
[03:52] <stunis> I've uninstalled my Desktop Managers, how do I make sure that when I reboot it won't attempt to load one?
[03:53] <Beldar> stunis, Desktop managers?
[03:53] <stunis> Yes, I uninstalled slim and lightdm
[03:54] <Beldar> stunis, for what end goal?
[03:54] <angelazou> hi I just ran apt-get upgrade, and saw an "Setting up nginx (1.4.4-1~raring0) ..." message
[03:54] <angelazou> I ran nginx -v to check out the upgrade, but I still get the old version 1.2.6
[03:54] <stunis> to log in to a tty and type startx
[03:54] <stunis> No need for a DM
[03:54] <usr13> dBLOOD: And you have libupnp3?
[03:55] <Beldar> stunis, Not sure you are correct, however if removed they will not load, you getting to the tty as of now?
[03:55] <dBLOOD> yeah I know compiling, but it would take a lot of stuff
[03:56] <usr13> dBLOOD: You might try symlink, (ln -s /usr/lib/libupnp.so.3 /usr/lib/libupnp.so.6)
[03:56] <dBLOOD> time and downloading alot of stuff, so I thought I try to instal from a deb
[03:56] <dBLOOD> hmm...
[03:56] <usr13> dBLOOD: I don't  know about "a lot of stuff"...
[03:57] <usr13> dBLOOD: It's not that difficult.
[03:57] <dBLOOD> I saw the list of compiling vlc... oh boy...
[03:57] <usr13> dBLOOD: What are you planning to do with vlc?
[03:58] <stunis> Beldar: Haven't tried rebooting
[03:58] <dBLOOD> but what if an application actually needs libupnp6?
[03:58] <dBLOOD> I want to watch videos
[03:58] <Beldar> stunis, You have to modify grub to boot to a cli is all
[03:58] <usr13> dBLOOD: I use mplayer a lot.  How about mplayer.
[03:58] <usr13> ?
[03:59] <usr13> dBLOOD: Or xine?
[03:59] <dBLOOD> xine is a definite no, but I got used to vlc
[03:59] <xangua> is something wrong with the VLC version precice ships that doesn't allow you to watch vieos¿
[03:59] <usr13> dBLOOD: Or vlc 2.0.8?
[03:59] <angelazou> quick question, when apt-get tells me there are 17 packages not upgraded, can I see what they are?
[03:59] <angelazou> and can I get them to force upgrade?
[03:59] <dBLOOD> I just don't understand whyI don't get the new version in the repos
[03:59] <xangua> is something wrong with the VLC version precice ships that doesn't allow you to watch vieos¿ dBLOOD
[04:00] <usr13> dBLOOD: So why is xine out of the question?
[04:00] <dBLOOD> is it not the one that ships witn ubuntu, or xubuntu?
[04:00] <usr13> dBLOOD: Why do you want 2.1.1.1?  (I never got your answer...)
[04:01] <dBLOOD> sorry us13, I need it because it uses libupnp6
[04:01] <dBLOOD> which I need for another application, instead of libupnp3, which is in the way of installing libupnp6
[04:01] <usr13> dBLOOD: That's where I came in. (This conversation has gone into a loop.)  sorry.
[04:02] <dBLOOD> no prop, let's clarify things :)
[04:03] <dBLOOD> *b
[04:04] <usr13> Enter sandman
[04:05] <dBLOOD> actually xine looks much like those dvd player applications for windows dumb people buy
[04:08] <ttist25> hello - I'm trying to recover some virtualbox .vdi files from a degraded Ubuntu software raid - I'm getting an "Error opening file: Permission Denied" when I try to copy them.  Can anyone help?
[04:09] <locoloco> angelazou: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[04:09] <ttist25> I can copy other files like log files etc. but the .vdi files give me an error
[04:10] <jrib1> ttist25: raid1?
[04:11] <ttist25> I think so yes
[04:11] <jrib1> ttist25: you don't know what raid level you're using?
[04:11] <dBLOOD> I try master daily
[04:11] <locoloco> angelazou: sudo apt-get install -f or http://askubuntu.com/questions/42227/how-do-i-force-apt-get-to-update-the-state-of-package-versions
[04:11] <dBLOOD> but I'm afraid
[04:12] <ttist25> no - it's two 500GB drives.  I booted to a live CD and installed mdadm to be able to mount it
[04:13] <ttist25> jrib1: I'm in a little bit over my head here
[04:14] <jrib1> ttist25: what command are you issuing and what is the result?
[04:15] <locoloco> ttist25: your previous install probably took its permissions from your user; live
[04:15] <locoloco> CD may belong to other group
[04:17] <ttist25> jrib1: I'm in a live CD in Grub using nautilus.  I tried copy/paste from the raid array to a sata drive I have connected via USB.  The error is "error opening file permission denied"
[04:17] <jrib1> ttist25: do gksudo nautilus
[04:18] <ttist25> jrib1: ok - thanks let me try
[04:19] <vedrit> okay, so, iceroot and usr13 : I I want to make sure I'm getting into the right area on the live disc since I'm a complete and utter noob in regards to Linux/Ubuntu. After the disk loads, I go to Recover Broken System or whatever, right?
[04:20] <CountryfiedLinux> Is there a way to auto-hide lxpanel? And is there any lxpanel menu applet alternatives besides the default menu?
[04:24] <ttist25> jrib: that did the trick! thanks boss
[04:25] <ttist25> jrib: can I ask you something else?
[04:26] <vedrit> usr13, iceroot, you guys still here?
[04:26] <Kryto01> ..
[04:27] <usr13> just barely
[04:28] <vedrit> iceroot had suggested I load the live disk and try to restore permissions that way, I wanted to confirm that I do that through the Rescue a Broken System option, right?
[04:28] <usr13> vedrit: What do you need?
[04:28] <usr13> vedrit: Yes
[04:28] <vedrit> okay good. Because it seriously take about 1.5 hrs for that to load. If I don't have to load into that multiple times, the better
[04:29] <usr13> vedrit: What?  What took 1.4 hrs to load?
[04:30] <dBLOOD> You are right guys, I'm better off with compiling my other app
[04:30] <dBLOOD> thank you anyway
[04:36] <locoloco> Anyone know of a way to add Bash key bindings to Unity? This only lists existing ones: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/what-are-unitys-keyboard-and-mouse-shortcuts
[04:36] <adamu> Hello
[04:36] <yenic> i'm on 12.04lts right now, if i move to 13.10 are the repositories updated more often? eg. git is on version 7 or so in 12.04lts, is it on the latest version in 13.10?
[04:36] <vedrit> usr13: the recover a broken system... system
[04:37] <tubaguy50035> any reason why the "install" option wouldn't show up on a live USB?
[04:38] <Beldar> tubaguy50035, Did you check the sum?
[04:38] <tubaguy50035> Yes
[04:39] <yenic> sorry i meant 1.7.9.5 in 12.04lts, vs 1.8.x in 13.10
[04:39] <locoloco> yenic: on 13.10, git --version 1.8.3.2
[04:39] <Beldar> tubaguy50035, what release just for fun? and if you play the tuba is it a 3 or 4 valve?
[04:40] <adamu> yenic, Instead of Upgrading why not just build the newer version of git? clone git with git :P
[04:40] <Beldar> ;)
[04:40] <tubaguy50035> Beldar: Always 4.  And 13.10 server.
[04:40] <yenic> locoloco, thank you. does anyone find 13.10 more unstable than 12.04?
[04:40] <Beldar> tubaguy50035, Heh, I figured 4, the server is a text install, not sure what it looks like myself.
[04:40] <yenic> adamu, i thought about that but my reason is that i dont want to have to keep making it myself from source each time a new version is released. rather just upgrade.
[04:41] <Rask> Hello, channel. :)  I have a feeling this is a question that gets asked a lot, but I'm not finding what I want by googling... if I need a newer version of a single package than what the stable release provides, is there a minimally-painful way to tell apt to look to the future for that package only?
[04:41] <vedrit> I'm using 12.04 and... I dunno. I think when I burned my disc, something wasn't quite right
[04:41] <tubaguy50035> Beldar: Incorrect.  The server iso has a GUI install
[04:42] <Beldar> tubaguy50035, Yeah, I meant just no desktop, you might ask in #ubuntu-server if no one knows here.
[04:42] <adamu> yenic, you would think 12.04 would be more stable since it is the long term release
[04:42] <usr13> vedrit: If it took 1.5 hours, I don't know what to say but sounds like a hardware issue.
[04:42] <tubaguy50035> Beldar: ah, okay
[04:42] <locoloco> yenic: not at all. No hickups thus far. adamu: may be right about the clone-ing of git... it is easiest route to up-to-the-minute git
[04:42] <vedrit> usr13: wouldn't be surprised. I had to scramble to find a CD player, so it's untold years old, haha
[04:43] <vedrit> just couldn't get a USB image to work
[04:43] <yenic> adamu, i want it autoupdated with the rest of my software. the only thing in 12.04 i have installed outside of the repositories is Eclipse to get the latest.. and I had conflicts with Eclipse autoupdates not working well (needed sudo, and got out of whack with the repo version provided)
[04:43] <Beldar> tubaguy50035, There is the mini if you want a web install really better for older installs to get the latest or an only option, or just more options.
[04:44] <tubaguy50035> Beldar: The network installer?
[04:44] <yenic> does cloning automatically keep it up to date? or do i have to continously clone it as new versions are updated?
[04:44] <Beldar> tubaguy50035, Nah it is a tiny iso like 32MB it just calls to the repos for the install.
[04:45] <tubaguy50035> Beldar: Where do I find that?
[04:45] <Beldar> tubaguy50035, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[04:45] <waykool99> last week i installed Mini just to test it. has every Ubuntu version minus Ubuntu Studio.  :(
[04:45] <locoloco> yenic: will only clone and subsequently upgrade to latest version of git.
[04:46] <Beldar> tubaguy50035, pretty cool really you have a lot of options for installing.
[04:46] <adamu> yenic, its really easy to clone git (git clone https://github.com/git/git) it shouldn't take more than five minutes to clone git then make && make install
[04:47] <locoloco> yenic: as per adamu: you could easily script the procedure and cronjob
[04:47] <tubaguy50035> yeah, just sucks that the main ISO doesn't work for me :/
[04:47] <tubaguy50035> Beldar: I'm not sure what checks there are in place that would make the "Install" option appear or not appear
[04:47] <Beldar> tubaguy50035, Strange for sure you seem familiar with using it.
[04:48] <waykool99> 6 years using ubuntu. just learned Kubuntu/Xubuntu meant KDE and Xfce GUI.  slaps hand on head
[04:48] <technickul> What's the best way to go about troubleshooting bootloader install failed while trying to install 13.10?
[04:48] <yenic> adamu, that sounds like i'll have to keep on top of new releases. i'll think about scripting it out.. but will probably just move to 13.10 to get more up to date releases (even if its not immediately, sounds like git in 13.10 is already up to date, while mine is on 1.7.x). thank you
[04:48] <tubaguy50035> Beldar: I've been using it for years, but the last time I did a live USB for a server was with 12.10
[04:48] <Beldar> technickul, This a dualboot and if so with what?
[04:48] <technickul> Beldar: yes windows 8
[04:49] <adamu> yenic, okay
[04:49] <Beldar> technickul, Ah, we see that happen here daily, but people do come here with problems, you familiar with the bootrepair app?
[04:50] <technickul> Beldar: I've seen that people have mentioned it while googling my problems. I think part of the problem is one I don't know where the bootloader should go and two I have raided ssds
[04:50] <yenic> if anyones interested- git stable is 1.8.5.1; 13.10 git 1.8.3.2; 12.04 git 1.7.9.5
[04:51] <Beldar> technickul, with raid I would not know, nor really with uefi in general.,
[04:51] <adamu> yenic, the version of git I got off github is 18.4
[04:51] <waykool99> i installed U Studio v13.10 64 bit for one week. sent a ton of crash reports but loved the fact it had IDJC (idjc.sourceforge.net) under Audio. will the LTS version be released with v14.04 or v15.04?
[04:51] <technickul> Beldar: I think I just need to pick the correct place to install the bootloader but have no idea which one to choose there are like 20 choises
[04:51] <yenic> i just pulled that version # from http://www.git-scm.com/
[04:51] <technickul> Beldar: I don't  believe it's in uefi mode since I enable compatibility mode
[04:51] <adamu> yenic, nvm I was being stupid
[04:52] <technickul> I don't have the slightest clue on which device to install the bootloader on.
[05:00] <waykool99> technickul, i installed v10.04.4, then installed v13.10. i hit Yes to both GRUB installs, but to be on the safe side, used v10.04 to set the bootloader to 100 seconds. checked Synaptic for upgrading GRUB plus to get a graphical control. 10.04 only seemed to upgrade to Grub v1.99
[05:01] <adamu> technickul, I would install it to the MBR
[05:01] <technickul> Thank you for the responses I don't know which one is the mbr since I have about 20 choices
[05:02] <technickul> would it be linux device-mapper (striped) (512. gb)
[05:02] <technickul> That's the uppermost choice I'm given
[05:03] <waykool99> on 2- 2 TB SATA drives,  checked Sun's Disk Utility -and- GParted. noticed instead of MBR it used GPT (GUID Partition Table)
[05:04] <bobbyd_>  /nick bobbyd___
[05:04] <technickul> waykool99: was that to me?
[05:04] <adamu> technickul, Didn't you say you were working with Raid? If you did I am not sure since I have not worked with it before so I can't help you there..
[05:04] <technickul> adamu: yea my laptop came with raided ssds
[05:05] <technickul> I installed ubuntu on my raided desktop but it isn't dual booting
[05:05] <Guest43958> join #windows
[05:05] <adamu> !help
[05:06] <technickul> It's not windows related though. I don't know which device to install the bootloader on since I have 20 or so choices lol
[05:06] <haha> !help
[05:06] <haha> !patience
[05:06] <waykool99> Techcickul, is there a web page explaining ubuntu's install DVD's about RAID?
[05:08] <technickul> waykool99: Sory I  don't understand what you're saying? are you asking if my laptop came with ubuntu dvds?
[05:08] <argentum> anyone have a good description of SSH and how to use it that they can link me to? I want to know what it's used for, and how to use it... I would like to be able to at least start with using it to port forward for single VNC connections or at least to port forward some GUI windows.. Also, I've already installed open SSH and have configured some of the setttings in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config and /etc/ssh/ssh_config files
[05:08] <adamu> technickul, Try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID#Boot_Loader
[05:08] <waykool99> thank you adamu
[05:08] <adamu> waykool99, lol np
[05:09] <adamu> argentum, try man ssh
[05:09] <adamu> argentum, it has a good description of what ssh is
[05:09] <waykool99> have Dell tower w/2- 2 TB sata drives. trying to learn raid before i hose up another installation.
[05:10] <adamu> argentum, Man sshd_config will help with configuring the ssh daemon
[05:10] <technickul> adamu: I'll check that out thank you
[05:10] <adamu> technickul, np
[05:11] <adamu> haha, using ipv6?
[05:11] <technickul> adamu: I should have mentioned ubuntu was in the process of installing and let me know when it tried to install the bootloader and failed. I'm not having problems booting yet :P. Or did I misread the docs you sent me?
[05:11] <argentum> adamu, Yea i've been reading up on it. There are a couple of goals that I have. I want to access the graphical seamlessly of one of my machines on my network from another... both running Ubuntu 13.10 *(xcfe) and the other goal is to remotely access through ssh the same host machine to run periodic updates and so on
[05:12] <adamu> technickul, oh okay I was confused
[05:12] <adamu> technickul, what is your problem then? :P
[05:13] <adamu> argentum, It might be better to use cron to schedule periodic updates
[05:13] <argentum> adamu: prehaps you have some suggestions for easy, responsive control of my other machine on my network?
[05:13] <adamu> argentum, you could use an ssh tunnel with local port forwarding so you only have to port forward one port (ssh)
[05:13] <technickul> adamu: lol I'll try again. I was attempting to install on my freespace formated ext3 partition, but during mid install ubuntu whined and said bootloader install failed and is asking me to choose a location to install the bootloader on, continue without bootloader, or cancel the install
[05:13] <argentum> adamu: Will look into it immediately... too green to realize that was possible
[05:14] <adamu> technickul, Maybe you could install it on one of the drivers (e.g. if you had /dev/sda and /dev/sdb install it on /dev/sda then configure bios to boot from /dev/sda first?)
[05:15] <technickul> adamu: that's where this get's weird I don't have either of those options. All my options start with /dev/mapper
[05:15] <technickul> all of the are labeled /dev/mapper/isw_bjdhdaadjh_ASUS_OS
[05:16] <technickul> and then esome have a number at the end ex: /dev/mapper/isw_bjdhdaadjh_ASUS_OS5
[05:17] <adamu> technickul, maybe something like this? sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/mapper/<YourRaidDrive>
[05:17] <adamu> technickul, oh wait one second..
[05:17] <technickul> adamu: I wish I could send a screenshot. I'm stuck on the install screen without a terminal :/
[05:18] <adamu> technickul, this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1559762
[05:18] <technickul> adamu: I literally just found that link haha
[05:18] <adamu> technickul, haha
[05:18] <technickul> was looking at it just before you sent it. I"m going to read through this thank you
[05:19] <adamu> technickul, np
[05:20] <adamu> well.. I better be signing off.. bye!
[05:31] <B0Ze> is there really no way to change the position of the system tray icons on 13.10?
[05:32] <B0Ze> rearrange the icons i mean
[05:36] <luk3rs> any one running 13.10 with bumblebee
[05:36] <gtristan> Simple question: I am running ubuntu 12.04 64-bit, are there packages for libglib-2.0 in 32bit form ?
[05:37]  * gtristan runs bumblebee actually, but not with 13.10
[05:37] <meh_> Hello, would anyone know how to set cups printer to not overwrite existing files?
[05:37] <luk3rs> in 13.04 bumblebee worked for me, but 13.10 broke something
[05:39] <gtristan> luk3rs, I've used bumblebee on a couple versions, upgrading (as you probably read the instructions) is a pain, I've personally only ever succeeded in re-installing a new version from scratch
[05:39] <gtristan> i.e. a new entire distro from ISO image
[05:40] <luk3rs> i did a fresh install
[05:40] <luk3rs> still not working
[05:40] <meh_> I've been trying to change the cups_pdf.conf file, but i "don't have the permissions".... how can one change file permission?
[05:41] <gtristan> luk3rs, ouch, sorry I personally can't help you ;-)
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> !permissions | meh_
[05:41] <luk3rs> thats ok
[05:41] <luk3rs> how about nvidia primus
[05:41] <luk3rs> would that work
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> !nvidia | luk3rs
[05:42] <gtristan> heh
[05:43] <luk3rs> i would not mind if it used the nvidia card at all times, instead of intel
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> luk3rs: can you repeat your issue mate?
[05:44] <Gnea> !lts
[05:44] <luk3rs> bumblebee does not work in 13.10
[05:45] <luk3rs> on install it only run intel gpu
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> !info bumblebee
[05:45] <gtristan> lotuspsychje, the bumblebee thing takes care of a specific issue where you have an intel chipset & nvidia chipset... unfortunately the intel chipset shows up earlier on the pci chain... Xorg takes the first one it finds: Intel
[05:46] <luk3rs> yes
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> gtristan: does he have 3 grafix card chipsets?
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> 2
[05:46] <luk3rs> 2,yes
[05:46] <gtristan> lotuspsychje, it's common on some laptops, like my ASUS
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> luk3rs: you have same issue on lts?
[05:47]  * gtristan testifies to bumblebee working properly on 12.04
[05:48] <luk3rs> no in lts wifi driver does not work
[05:48] <Gnea> !ppa
[05:50] <mikeshollen> Hey guys, I installed the no-ip server on my linux machine for dynamic DNS. The application is noip2. How do I check to see if it is running?
[05:50] <Gnea> is anyone else having problems loading https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas ?
[05:50] <Gnea> mikeshollen: with the ps command, like this:  ps axf   then look for noip2
[05:50] <luk3rs> i wonder how the guys at system76 get around the optimus problem for their lappys
[05:51] <luk3rs> i look for way to disable the intel gpu in the bios, no luck
[05:52] <MajSlayer7777> what's the command to run to install security updates and packages via SSH? on ubuntu 13.10?
[05:52] <Gnea> luk3rs: who makes your computer?
[05:52] <luk3rs> sager
[05:52] <Gnea> luk3rs: what model?
[05:52] <mikeshollen> Gnea, it says                    13680 ?        Ss     0:00 noip2
[05:52] <luk3rs> np9150
[05:52] <Gnea> mikeshollen: it's running
[05:52] <mikeshollen> Gnea, awesome. thank you for your help!
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> luk3rs: here's an article about prime and 13.10, scroll down: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/8-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[05:53] <hydra7> is there a better alternative to xampp for ubuntu
[05:53] <luk3rs> thanks
[05:53] <MajSlayer7777> I tried to google it, but it's always about people upgrading the version, and they always recommend using the desktop, this is a dedicated server. I don't want a desktop on it..
[05:54] <luk3rs> i will try primus, hopefull it work
[05:55] <Gnea> mikeshollen: cheers!
[05:55] <gtristan> hmm
[05:55]  * gtristan finds "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch"
[05:55] <gtristan> thanks :)
[05:56] <Gnea> could someone please try to load https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas in their web browser and tell me if it works?
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | hydra7
[05:56] <gtristan> Gnea, timeout error
[05:57] <Gnea> gtristan: okay, that's what I'm getting too :(
[05:57] <waykool99> Timeout error
[05:57] <waykool99> Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad.
[05:57] <Gnea> man, the ONE day out of the year that I want to get mame working and now I can't
[05:57] <gtristan> Gnea, time to roll your own distro ;-)
[05:58] <Gnea> gtristan: by the time I do, the ppa site will likely be up and rolling again ;)
[05:58] <mral3n> Hi all, does anyone have a second to help me with a xubuntu install (currently on a live usb)
[05:58] <Gnea> I will just have to compile
[05:58] <Gnea> !ask | mral3n
[05:59] <Gnea> mral3n: also, #xubuntu might be of some help
[05:59] <mral3n> I'm on a live usb xubuntu 13.10, I have shrunk and created a partition in windows already. When trying to install xubuntu it says no operating system is detected.
[06:00] <gtristan> ubottu, dance !
[06:00] <Gnea> mral3n: at which point does it say 'no operating system detected', exactly?
[06:00] <gtristan> eh, not bad, private reply... I suddenly feel not so bad about not having any fun bots around gimpnet ;-)
[06:01] <Gnea> lol
[06:01] <mral3n> After clicking to install xubuntu. I'm running it live of USB atm
[06:02] <Beldar> mral3n, What windows release?
[06:02] <mral3n> Windows 7 64 bit
[06:02] <Gnea> mral3n: are you following a guide of some sort on the internet to do this?
[06:03] <Beldar> mral3n, Is gparted installed on the live environment?
[06:03] <mral3n> I've done it before several times but never having the "No detected operating systems" problem
[06:03] <Gnea> weird
[06:03] <mral3n> usually there is a install xubuntu/ubuntu alongside windows
[06:04] <Beldar> mral3n, gparted? is this a uefi computer?
[06:04] <Gnea> mral3n: did the whole installation process itself seem to go alright?
[06:04] <PatrickDickey> I've seen it before. I always choose "Something else" and then manually configure everything. If you're doing it on a UEFI boot, that might be the problem.
[06:04] <Gnea> !uefi
[06:04]  * PatrickDickey reminder that "fdisk" can't "see" GPT partitioned drives. You need to use "gdisk" for it.
[06:05] <mral3n> I tried the something else but didn't want to mess up my windows partition as I have some files. As for as UEFI I'm not sure..
[06:05] <Gnea> that's useful, since I've never installed on a UEFI before... I have a new motherboard sitting in a box, just need a cpu and some memory
[06:05] <Gnea> mral3n: is it a brand new computer?
[06:05] <mral3n> made in december 2012
[06:06] <Gnea> mral3n: what cpu?
[06:06] <mikeshollen> how do i search for a file in terminal?
[06:06] <Gnea> mikeshollen: find or locate. locate only works once updatedb has been run
[06:06] <apb1963> mikeshollen: find /path -name fileName
[06:06] <mral3n> came with win 8 which I wiped out. I'm on an AMD dual core.
[06:07] <mral3n> a6 i believe or a4
[06:07] <Gnea> mral3n: laptop or desktop?
[06:07] <PatrickDickey> mral3n: It has UEFI installed then. If it had Windows 8, it most likely has it.
[06:07] <mral3n> laptop
[06:07] <Gnea> mral3n: make & model?
[06:07] <apb1963> I want to have two virtual hosts on the same ubuntu 12.04 server.  I have registered the domains at freedns as A records each pointing to my (home) routers IP.  I followed these directions: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/examples.html  I get the default "It Works" page, but my index.php file is not coming up on either site.
[06:08] <Beldar> mral3n, I suspect the W7 isn;t a uefi install, and the dsic has gpt remnants keeping the xubuntu from seeing it.
[06:08] <Gnea> apb1963: make sure that apache is set to listen on port 80 of the internal ip's as well
[06:08] <apb1963> I received these warnings & errors on restart:  http://pastebin.com/aCyWi3KQ
[06:08] <apb1963> I have a listen directive in each domains config file
[06:08] <PatrickDickey> apb1963: What happens if you try to go to the ip address on your local lan (192.168.x.x/host/index.php)?
[06:09] <Gnea> apb1963: okay, did you set them up as <VirtualHost> then?
[06:09] <apb1963> Gnea: Yes
[06:09] <apb1963> PatrickDickey: checking
[06:09] <^Mike> My laptop seems to think there are two mice attached, and one of them has a dead battery, causing it to alert me. There is no 2nd mouse. How can I make the laptop correctly detect this hardware? The mouse and keyboard are connected using a single logitech unifying USB receiver.
[06:09] <mral3n> hmm well I'm not sure. It's the same windows 7 disc I've used before when trying to install linux alongside windows so not too sure.
[06:09] <Gnea> apb1963: not sure... might want to ask in #httpd
[06:10] <Gnea> ^Mike: the laptop doesn't have a mousepad?
[06:11] <apb1963> PatrickDickey: same result. "This webpage is not available"
[06:11] <^Mike> Gnea: it also has a touchpad, but this is listed in the power statistics panel as an external mouse (obviously, the touchpad has no battery)
[06:11] <Gnea> apb1963: did you setup bind9?
[06:11] <apb1963> Gnea: I went there first.  The one person to respond gave me a holier than thou answer with a "hint" that was useless.
[06:11] <Beldar> mral3n, Use this app and run only the create bootinfo summary and pastebin the url, it will answer a lot of questions. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[06:11] <mral3n> If i choose the "something else" option and try to create one that way that wont corrupt my windows partition and make it unbootable will it
[06:11] <mral3n> OKay will do so right now.
[06:12] <Gnea> apb1963: well don't let him scare you off
[06:12] <apb1963> Gnea:  No.  I'm using freedns.afraid.org for dns.  And, as PatrickDickey made me check, it doesn't come up by IP either.  So it's not DNS.
[06:12] <apb1963> Gnea: Not scared, but while nobody is talking there, I figured I'd ask here.
[06:13] <mikeshollen> Gnea, I'm struggling a little with your suggestion. I am trying to locate where the files are that i just installed with sudo apt-get murmur-server
[06:13] <mikeshollen> I am looking for mumble-server.ini i believe
[06:14] <Gnea> apb1963: Well, some people can be easily put off by the elitism that some people enjoy pushing while in a non-confrontational environment.  Can you pastebin your apache config?
[06:14] <apb1963> mikeshollen: find / -name mumble-server.ini
[06:14] <gtristan> Ok new (related) question: I am running 64bit Ubuntu 12.04, I installed ia32-libs-multiarch... but I still need libfuse2:i386... running apt-get install libfuse2:i386 causes a warning, doesnt want to parallel install but instead insists on removing the existing libfuse2 package (and removing important stuff, like grub)... how can I get a 32bit libfuse.so ?
[06:14] <Gnea> mikeshollen: sudo updatedb, wait for it to finish, then just: locate murmur | grep etc
[06:15] <apb1963> gnea: yes.  A moment please.  I appreciate the polite response.
[06:15] <Gnea> apb1963: sure thing
[06:15] <mral3n> hmm E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:15] <PatrickDickey> apb1963:  You have two separate domains pointing to the same IP Address from the outside? Wouldn't it be simpler all the way around, to have one domain, and two subdomains?
[06:18] <apb1963> Gnea:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6539121/
[06:19] <mikeshollen> when i run edit on mumble-server.ini i get an error
[06:19] <mikeshollen> ** (gedit:14476): WARNING **: Command line `dbus-launch --autolaunch=1b41aa7cde7459826208119f00000002 --binary-syntax --close-stderr' exited with non-zero exit status 1: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.\n
[06:19] <mikeshollen> Cannot open display:
[06:19] <apb1963> PatrickDickey: Yes I do... and it may or may not be simpler, but neither domain is currently working so I don't see how it would make a difference... nor is it what I want to be honest.
[06:19] <mral3n> All done.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6539134/
[06:20] <apb1963> mikeshollen: export DISPLAY=0:0
[06:20] <Gnea> apb1963: hm okay, what you'll need to do is write a <VirtualHost> directive for each site, and each site should have its own directory, logfile, etc
[06:20] <apb1963> Gnea: did I not do that?
[06:20] <apb1963> Gnea: AFAIK, that's exactly what I did
[06:20] <Gnea> apb1963: you wrote a configuration directive for one host
[06:20] <apb1963> Gnea: Yes, that's just one file.
[06:20] <gtristan> oooo shiny: http://askubuntu.com/questions/60751/is-it-possible-to-have-32-bit-libraries-installed-on-a-64-bit-system (<-- same libfuse issue, actually)
[06:21] <technickul> Has anyone experienced an error or alert dialog that has "???" as the title and "??? ???" as the description with only an OK button during installation
[06:21] <mikeshollen> apb1963, i don't understand
[06:21] <apb1963> Gnea: The other file has the same stuff, with the domain appropriate changes
[06:21] <apb1963> mikeshollen: Copy & paste it, in the terminal.... exactly as I wrote it
[06:22] <Gnea> apb1963: oooh, I see, so you're sourcing multiple configs.... why don't do you prevent those from loading and just load this 'fun.sleepingwolf.net' for now and see if you can get just the one to work? or have you tried that yet?
[06:22] <mikeshollen> apb1963, i did
[06:22] <apb1963> mikeshollen: run your command again now
[06:22] <Beldar> mral3n, You have gpt detected "WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util sfdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted." use this link to clean it and xubuntu should see the install. http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/
[06:22] <mikeshollen> apb1963 it is just sitting on a blank line
[06:22] <mral3n> thank you doing so now.
[06:22] <apb1963> Gnea: No, I haven't done that... but I'll try
[06:22] <Gnea> apb1963: okay
[06:23] <apb1963> mikeshollen: Now I'm the one that doesn't understand what you're saying.
[06:23] <mikeshollen> apb1963, I ran your command and then ran gedit. i didn't get an error this time, it just went to a new line with no output
[06:24] <wilornel> is there anybody out there?
[06:24] <apb1963> Gnea: Same exact errors as before that I pastebinned from the start
[06:24] <mral3n> should I use that on windows or while I'm on the usb live?
[06:25] <apb1963> mikeshollen: I'm guessing you want to feed gedit a file name.  Did you do that?
[06:25] <wilornel> Hey guys, my laptop is stuck in the "locked screen" mode. The screen is turned off, but the computer is still running.... It's not really in sleeping mode, since it's running, and it's not really running, since the screen can't be turned on...
[06:25] <Gnea> apb1963: hmmm. will that subdomain be available to the whole of the internet or are you just planning on making it available locally?
[06:25] <apb1963> Gnea: One of each.  The fun host worldwide.
[06:26] <Gnea> apb1963: okay
[06:26] <Beldar> mral3n, I believe you can run it from the xubuntu, never used it just recommended many time in the same situation. Use nicks here to you can tab complete the nicks.
[06:27] <Gnea> apb1963: try commenting out: Listen 80
[06:27] <apb1963> Gnea: Interesting thought.  OK
[06:27] <mral3n> ok thanks
[06:28]  * Gnea proceeds to compile the latest mame
[06:28] <apb1963> Gnea: Better.  Now I just get: [Sat Dec 07 22:27:44 2013] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
[06:28] <Beldar> mral3n, Basically you have a gpt partition table from the W8 install, leaving gpt remnants that stops the xubuntu read of the HD.
[06:29] <Gnea> apb1963: okay. try changing <VirtualHost *:80> to <VirtualHost fun.sleepingwolf.net:80>
[06:29] <apb1963> Gnea: Definitely better... now I get the page, but it doesn't render properly
[06:29] <apb1963> Gnea: OK
[06:30] <Mongo44> Does anyone know how to take this command: echo 50 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness : to set as the lowest brightness?
[06:30] <Gnea> apb1963: I should probably mention that I haven't touched an apache config file in about 4 years
[06:30] <Gnea> Mongo44: just type it into a terminal
[06:30] <mral3n> beldar: okay I'm installing fixparts now
[06:31] <Mongo44> It only lasts for about a minute then it gets brighter.
[06:31] <Gnea> so yeah, I'm a little rusty at this ;-)
[06:31] <mral3n> beldar: it says "The package is of bad quality" when tryinmg to install it
[06:31] <mral3n> trying"
[06:31] <Beldar> mral3n, Cool, the intructions are pretty much there and if run correctly should fix it while booted to the live xubntu and you can install.
[06:32] <apb1963> Gnea: I should probably mention I had one of these working earlier, and you're backing out the precise changes I made - which I made because of the link I mentioned that I used.
[06:32] <Gnea> apb1963: hahaha
[06:33] <Mongo44> How do I make that command last longer?
[06:33] <anaoum> exit
[06:33] <Gnea> Mongo44: put it into a script file and cron it
[06:33] <alfonsojon> Hello
[06:33] <alfonsojon> Is there any way to port Dust to GTK3?
[06:33] <alfonsojon> I'm using it on MATE and it looks fantastic, but some GTK3 apps look out of place.
[06:33] <apb1963> Gnea: OK, warnings have gone away (I added domain name in place of * in both spots)... but it's still not rendering properly
[06:34] <Mongo44> How do I do that?
[06:34] <Gnea> apb1963: check your logs and check permissions of the username that's actually running the httpd or apached daemons, the directories of the files you're serving, and the files themselves
[06:35] <Beldar> mral3n, you grab the amd deb?
[06:35] <mral3n> baledar: yep
[06:35] <Gnea> Mongo44: well first step is to write it up as a bash script. know how to use an editor?
[06:35] <Beldar> mral3n, Cool I just downloaded it and installed just to check nothing wrong here.
[06:35] <Mongo44> Nope.
[06:36] <mral3n> beldar: fixparts_0.8.8-1_amd64.deb .. I'll download it again just to be sure.
[06:36] <Gnea> Mongo44: okay, if you go to your menu and accessories, you should find the gedit editor - bring that up first
[06:36] <apb1963> Gnea: I originally had the owner as apb... but changed it to www-data earlier in the hope that was the issue... it wasn't... so now I'm wondering if I want it back to apb?
[06:36] <Beldar> mral3n, You can use your tab key to complete nicks looks correct last post if the spelling is incorrect it wont notify me you have paosted to me. ;)
[06:37] <Mongo44> OK.
[06:37] <Gnea> apb1963: no, you were right to go to www-data.  actually, ps auxf | grep apache or ps auxf | grep httpd  should tell you who it's running as. hopefully it's www-data, in which case I would just chown all the files & subdirectories of /var/www to that
[06:37] <Beldar> mral3n, I'm taking off for about 45 min in 5 min, just so you know.
[06:38] <gtristan> Ok... what is the trick to installing the 32bit support low level stuff needed by gcc-4.6 ? i.e. the 32bit start stub (crtn.o) and -lgcc ?
[06:38] <Gnea> apb1963: but also make sure that they are world-readable
[06:38] <apb1963> world readable?  That sounds excessive
[06:39] <gtristan> for some reason my cross compiler on Ubuntu 12.04 doesnt work :-/ preventing me from building the 32bit libfuse package locally
[06:39] <Gnea> no. world-writable would be excessive
[06:39] <apb1963> that would be insane :)
[06:40] <Gnea> nah, it would be disturbing, for sure... if it was +x or +s, THEN insanity would be a key factor ;-)
[06:40] <apb1963> Keep in mind the problem here... it's not rendering properly at this point.... the graphics are missing for one thing... maybe the prime problem.
[06:40] <mral3n> Beldar, not sure how to use the tab nick thing, Kinda a noob when it to comes to this. Also while installing the tool I got a package operating failed.
[06:40] <Gnea> apb1963: have you checked your .html files to make sure that paths for graphics are lined up properly?
[06:40] <Mongo44> Gnea: I have Gedit open how do I write the bash script?
[06:41] <Gnea> Mongo44: well, the first line should look like this: #!/bin/sh
[06:41] <energizer1> I'm having wifi problems! Help!
[06:41] <apb1963> Gnea: it's a .index.php file.... and this worked earlier... I'm not sure what I did exactly...other than perhaps mess with directory directives
[06:41] <Gnea> Mongo44: press enter, and the next line should look like: echo 50 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[06:42] <Beldar> mral3n, how are you installing it?
[06:42] <Gnea> apb1963: does it have any actual php code in it?
[06:42] <anaoum_> exit
[06:42] <anaoum_> exit
[06:42] <mral3n> Beldar, nvm think I got it to work. Using the software center.
[06:42] <apb1963> interesting question... a moment
[06:42] <Beldar> mral3n, cool
[06:42] <Gnea> Mongo44: after you do that, save the file as my_brightness.sh
[06:42] <mral3n> Beldar, the nick thing is what I got to work. Not the tool. I was using the ubuntu software center btw.
[06:42] <Gnea> Mongo44: then close gedit and open a terminal, let me know when you are there
[06:43] <Beldar> mral3n, what errors do you see, it may need a dependency from the repo?
[06:43] <mikeshollen> if i am using command line through ssh, does gedit not work?
[06:44] <Mongo44> Ok I am ready.
[06:44] <Gnea> mikeshollen: not by default.  you're basically trying to run an X app on a remote system and have it pull the display to your screen, which is a separate networking transaction
[06:44] <mikeshollen> gnea, aha
[06:44] <mral3n> Beldar, Well I ignored the "quality" error and proceeded and it says the installation of a software package failed : (Reading database ... 153047 files and directories currently installed.)
[06:44] <mral3n> Unpacking fixparts (from .../fixparts_0.8.8-1_amd64.deb) ...
[06:44] <mral3n> dpkg: error processing /home/xubuntu/Downloads/fixparts_0.8.8-1_amd64.deb (--install)
[06:45] <Gnea> mikeshollen: so you'd have to have ssh setup to accept such a transaction and allow your display to accept it
[06:45] <energizer1> mikeshollen: you could use nano or something instead (i.e. a text editor that uses the command line)
[06:45] <Gnea> mikeshollen: or you could just run vim or nano
[06:45] <energizer1> gnea high five
[06:45] <Beldar> mral3n, You running 64 bit?
[06:45] <Gnea> energizer1: :-)
[06:45] <mral3n> Beldar, yes sir.
[06:45] <Gnea> Mongo44: okay
[06:45] <mikeshollen> energizer1, replace gedit with nano?
[06:45] <Gnea> Mongo44: type:  ls -l   you should see your my_brightness.sh there. do you?
[06:46] <energizer1> mikeshollen: just use it instead. try opening up a command line ssh, then type nano to get the text editor
[06:46] <Gnea> mikeshollen: nano is easy-peasy to use
[06:46] <apb1963> Gnea: definitely php code.  I'm not running apache as www-data though.... and I changed the dir to reflect the proper owner and group... and now I'm back to "It works"... which is something of a lie.
[06:47] <Mongo44> I saved it in documents, I see the documents directory.
[06:47] <Beldar> mral3n, in the software ceter hit-edit-software sources-other software I believe and untick the cd and run a update than try again. If this works for installing it you have to turn the cd back on for the install.
[06:47] <Gnea> apb1963: I'm wondering... can you pastebin your 'root' apache config file?
[06:48] <Gnea> Mongo44: excellent. cd Documents  then  chmod 700 my_brightness.sh
[06:48] <Beldar> mral3n, cd on for xubuntu install that is, off for the update to be able to pull from the repos if needed for the fixparts install.
[06:48] <Mongo44> It is there if I do ls -l ~/Documents.
[06:49] <Beldar> mral3n, Anyway, I will be back in about 45 min or so.
[06:49] <mral3n> Beldar, ok thanks
[06:50] <vicky> hi ubuntu. I am using mts mblaze data card(india)  in ubuntu 12.04 for internet connection. First i tried with network manager. The network manager able to find the modem but couldnt connect with internet.Then i tried with wvdial.The mts modem takes too long to connect with wvdial. So i think the network manger trying with some limited timeout. Anyway to increase it?(i may wrong, suggestions?)
[06:50] <Mongo44> Ok I did that.
[06:50]  * gtristan finds package 'gcc-multilib' after much grepping of the web
[06:50] <apb1963> Gnea: I just got my original site working
[06:51] <apb1963> Gnea: By removing the listen and * directives
[06:51]  * gtristan yearns for the simpler days of LFS :-/
[06:51] <apb1963> stupid link
[06:51] <apb1963> I hate broken tutorials :/
[06:51] <Gnea> apb1963: is this a step in the right direction?
[06:51] <apb1963> Gnea: Definitely... but I have to wonder why apache is writing broken documentation
[06:51] <Gnea> Mongo44: okay, now type: crontab -e
[06:52] <Gnea> apb1963: apache updates faster than the documentation can keep up, sometimes. the fact that it even has mostly decent documentation is pretty amazing, TBPH.
[06:53] <Gnea> Mongo44: if all goes well, you should see a bunch of ~ on the left side of the terminal. is that so?
[06:53] <Mongo44> This is supposed to be in the Documents directory, right?
[06:53] <Gnea> Mongo44: no, this can be typed anywhere
[06:53] <yairabr> hii im trying to wrine ubunu on an sd card for beaglboard-xm (new user), but after unzipping the image file i get an .raw file shouldnt i get .img file?
[06:53] <apb1963> Yeah, but the docs version matches the apache version
[06:54] <Gnea> Mongo44: at this point, you're accessing a protected region of the filesystem outside of your home directory
[06:54] <apb1963> so I find it hard to believe it could be so wrong
[06:54] <apb1963> anyway, that's a different complaint
[06:54] <Mongo44> It is telling me to select an editor and gives me three choices.
[06:54] <apb1963> One complaint per customer right?
[06:54] <Gnea> apb1963: I see... well, I don't know what to say about that! :-)
[06:54] <Gnea> lol
[06:54] <Gnea> Mongo44: what are the 3 choices?
[06:55] <yairabr> hii im trying to wrine ubunu on an sd card for beaglboard-xm (new user), but after unzipping the image file i get an .raw file shouldnt i get .img file?
[06:55] <Mongo44> no crontab for user - using an empty one.
[06:55] <Mongo44>   1. /bin/ed
[06:55] <Mongo44>   2. /bin/nano        <---- easiest
[06:55] <Mongo44>   3. /usr/bin/vim.tiny
[06:55] <Gnea> yairabr: not sure, but #ubuntu-arm probably knows
[06:56] <Gnea> Mongo44: yeah, go with choice 2
[06:56] <Gnea> Mongo44: now, you said that it resets the brightness every 5 minutes?
[06:57] <Mongo44> Probably less than that.
[06:57] <Gnea> Mongo44: okay, let's go for broke then.  type this in:  */4 * * * *    /home/smuxi/Documents/my_brightness.sh   (I'm assuming that smuxi is your login)
[06:58] <Gnea> wow, I didn't realize that mame took longer to compile than a linux kernel does!
[06:59] <Mongo44> I am at the editor it is not letting me input commands.
[06:59] <Gnea> it should just let you type text
[06:59] <Gnea> which aren't commands
[07:00] <Gnea> all commands are used with the ctrl key (designated with the ^) which are shown at the bottom of the editor
[07:01] <Mongo44> I am not sure what to do. I am at a screen that gives me instructions for the editor.
[07:03] <Mongo44> This is what I got when I selected Write Out cntrl + o: File Name to Write: /tmp/crontab.rl1Pcy/crontab
[07:05] <apb1963> Mongo44: Save & Exit... it's probably ^S I'm guessing?
[07:06] <apb1963> Mongo44: Cancel that and do ^X  I belive that will save it automagically
[07:06] <apb1963> I don't know why people think nano is better for beginners
[07:07] <apb1963> and why they even offer ed as a choice is baffling
[07:08] <pvl1> does module-init-tools not exsist anymore
[07:08] <Mongo44> I just did the dimming command, I guess I will see if it lasts.
[07:10] <MrTea> Well here we are.
[07:11] <Mongo44> Damn, it didn't work.
[07:11] <SNK3> In linux is there a easier way than doing something like cp -v /path/to/file/file1 /path/to/file/file2 /destination/ ?
[07:12] <pvl1> SNK3: whats easier than typing and tab completion
[07:12] <MrTea> text test
[07:12] <SNK3> pvl1:  Is there a way not to type the paths all over again ?
[07:12] <SNK3> *not
[07:13] <MrTea> text test
[07:13] <apb1963> SNK3:  !$ will give you the last argument from the last command
[07:14] <SNK3> Is there a way to do something like cp -v /path/to/file/(file1, file2) /destination/
[07:14] <MrTea> text test
[07:14] <MrTea> damn it
[07:15] <apb1963> SNK3: I don't understand what you want to do
[07:15] <Mongo44> I am still trying to make this command permanent:  echo 50 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[07:15] <SNK3> apb1963: If I have multiple files in the same location (with different names) can I address them with a common path instead of typing out the path again ?
[07:17] <apb1963> SNK3: I still don't understand  what you want to do... but it sounds as if you want pattern matching.  * will match anything.
[07:17] <Gnea> Mongo44: well it should be there... were you able to exit nano?
[07:17] <Gnea> Mongo44: basically, it should run that script every 4 minutes
[07:19] <SNK3> apb1963: Ill give u an example, right now I want geany to open couple of files usually I would do  geany ~/.config/Thunar/accels.scm ~/.config/Thunar/thunarrc   But is there a easier way to do this ?
[07:19] <Mongo44> I exited ran the command and it didn't stick.
[07:23] <apb1963> Gnea: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight
[07:24] <apb1963> SNK3: well, one obvious solution is to cd to that directory first... .then you don't need to type the dir over again
[07:25] <SNK3> apb1963: Any other way ?
[07:25] <apb1963> SNK3: so cd ~/.config/Thunar/
[07:25] <apb1963> SNK3: then geany accels.scm thunarrc
[07:25] <buu> SNK3: geany ~/dir/foo/{file1,file2}
[07:26] <apb1963> SNK3: buu's way is good too
[07:26] <buu> SNK3: http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Pattern-Matching.html
[07:29] <SNK3> apb1963, buu: It opens {file1 and file2}
[07:30] <lovethecode> say I want to get some practice writing bash scripts... what are good problem exercises for this purpose?
[07:35] <MrTea> text test
[07:35] <apb1963> lovethecode: google "writing bash scripts" and you'll get about 9 milllion hits
[07:35] <apb1963> SNK3: Isn't that what you wanted?
[07:36] <SNK3> apb1963: Yes its theres an error it opens a file called "{file1"  and "file2}" Instead of opening "file1" and "file2"
[07:36] <apb1963> what shell are you using?
[07:37] <apb1963> SNK3: type echo $SHELL
[07:38] <SNK3> SNK3: /bin/bash
[07:38] <Mongo44> Gnea: I told crontab to read this: */4 * * * *    /home/smuxi/Documents/my_brightness.sh (inserting my user name) and it said the file doesn't exist. It is there when I search Documents.
[07:38] <apb1963> umm.. do file1 and file2 exist?
[07:39] <apb1963> though it shouldn't matter
[07:40] <SNK3> apb1963: Yes they do
[07:42] <apb1963> copy and paste the exact command you used
[07:42] <SNK3> geany ~/.config/Thunar/{accels.scm, thunarrc}
[07:43] <apb1963> do I detect a space after the comma?  lose it.
[07:44] <lucido> hello, I tried to set my login screen's resolution (lightdm) using this guide (xrandr): http://askubuntu.com/questions/73804/wrong-login-screen-resolution . Problem is I get the "system is in low graphics mode" error
[07:45] <apb1963> lucido: Here, let me google that for you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error
[07:47] <SNK3> apb1963: It works! And I feel stupid :P . But thanks a lot
[07:47] <apb1963> SNK3: np.  it's usually the simple stuff that gets all of us
[07:50] <fishcooker> is there any possiblitiy to queue torrent download on transmission-cli?
[07:50] <Mongo44> Gnea: Is there any chance you got the time prefix wrong?
[07:50] <AB49K> Transmission has a CLI?
[07:51] <AB49K> xD
[07:51] <fishcooker> yes AB49K
[07:52] <fishcooker> transmission-cli
[07:52] <AB49K> Well I wish I knew that 2 months ago ^_^ hahaha
[07:52] <fishcooker> i don't know how to queue a lot torrent
[07:52] <fishcooker> anyone please elaborate
[07:52] <fishcooker> that's cool even combined with screen would be great
[07:52] <lucido> apb1963, yes I've read that and none of those solutions apply for me, I can reproduce the error easily with the two modifications described in http://askubuntu.com/questions/73804/wrong-login-screen-resolution and should not result in that error
[07:52] <fishcooker> headless AB49K
[07:54] <lucido> I'll reproduce it and look at X logs
[07:56] <Gnea> Mongo44: not likely, I use the same for one of my script (it's every 5 minutes, like so:  */5 * * * *
[07:58] <Gnea> Mongo44: make sure you set it correctly:  crontab -l
[08:01] <Mongo44> This is the command I put into the file: #!/bin/sh
[08:01] <Mongo44> echo 50 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[08:02] <Mongo44> It keeps telling me it is not found when I ask crontab to read it.
[08:05] <Gnea> Mongo44: what is the result of this command: ls -l /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/
[08:08] <Mongo44> I forget how to use pastenbinit.
[08:09] <Beldar> !pastenbinit
[08:09] <Gnea> !pastebinit
[08:10] <Gnea> hours later, mame finished compiling... now to see if it actually works
[08:10] <PatrickDickey> Wouldn't five minutes be something like */12 ? I think */5 is every 12 minutes.
[08:11] <Gnea> No.
[08:11] <Gnea> man 5 crontab
[08:12] <PatrickDickey> Got it. I was mistaken. It's been a while since I've done anything in my crontab.
[08:14] <PatrickDickey> Well, wouldn't the fact that his command requires sudo be an issue? Since typically you have to enter your password for sudo to work. Maybe do something like sudo crontab -e, and put it in as root.
[08:15] <Mongo44> Here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6539472/.
[08:15] <apb1963> hideous
[08:15] <pvl1> where does ubuntu cache debs
[08:16] <Gnea> pvl1: the same place debian does
[08:16] <Gnea> pvl1: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[08:16] <pvl1> ty Gnea
[08:16] <Vivekananda> hello everyone how are you doing ?
[08:17] <Vivekananda> how do I encrypt a file in ubuntu by default
[08:17] <Gnea> Vivekananda: how do you want it to be encrypted?
[08:18] <Vivekananda> I was trying to find out more options for making things secure 1. if laptop is stolen I wanted to not enable easy reading of the hard drive  2. I want to encrypt files / folders in a way ( any way) that requests a password before they are opened
[08:19] <Vivekananda> if possible I would love to have an option that if a password was entered wrongly more than two times then an automatic email is created and sent with the timestamp and such
[08:19] <Gnea> assuming that it was hooked up to the internet, perhaps
[08:20] <Gnea> at that point, you wouldn't want to encrypt a file but the filesystem
[08:21] <shaun__> !encrypt | Vivekananda
[08:21] <Gnea> Mongo44: oh, you'll need to mv that shell file to root's home directory and set it up to run in root's crontab
[08:22] <apb1963> Gnea: Is there a reason he's got sudo tee in the script?
[08:23] <Gnea> apb1963: because he needed sudo to access the sys file, I imagine... it is rather silly to request a password from a non-interactive shell
[08:24] <Gnea> Mongo44: also, get rid of the sudo command on root's end
[08:26] <lucido> can xrandr set the refresh rate, it's not in the man page
[08:27] <apb1963> Gnea:  this is messed up...  the docs for both 2.2 which I'm using, and 2.4 have the exact same instructions.... which I've followed and which don't work.  Throwing out the non-working part for both sites, results in only one site working.  I know it's something dumb and easy, but I'll be a monkeys uncle if I can find it.
[08:27] <Mongo44> How should I do that?
[08:28] <gry> Hi. Is there GUI for kvm?
[08:29] <Gnea> Mongo44: sudo mv ~/Documents/my_brightness.sh /root
[08:29] <jmgk> hi gry
[08:29] <Gnea> Mongo44: then:  sudo -i && crontab -e
[08:29] <jmgk> :)
[08:29] <jmgk> veta :D
[08:29] <jmgk> Svta
[08:29] <FloodBot1> jmgk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:29] <gry> jmgk: wrong channel…
[08:30] <Gnea> Mongo44: sudo -i, then enter, and crontab -e after you get the # prompt
[08:30] <Gnea> Mongo44: don't do the && part
[08:30] <jmgk> oh wrong person
[08:30] <jmgk> sorry I was looking for another
[08:32] <Mongo44> sudo -i doesn't seem to do much.
[08:34] <Mongo44> No it works now is the select editor prompt.
[08:34] <Mongo44> Should I go with nano again?
[08:35] <apb1963> Mongo44: Yes
[08:36] <apb1963> actually pick vim.tiny ... at least then I could help you
[08:36] <Mongo44> Now what do I tell crontab to read?
[08:36] <quantumpants> guys, ive had this come up when trying to update my stem, im a newbe and not sure how to deal with it. any help gratefully appreciated. E:Malformed line 60 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[08:38] <apb1963> Mongo44: put echo 50 |  /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness in the file, hit ^X which should save and exit.
[08:38] <Mongo44> That doesn't include the time though.
[08:39] <apb1963> right... ignore me
[08:39] <apb1963> I was thinking about what you were editing
[08:39] <apb1963> wasn't
[08:39] <impradeepy> quanttumpants: restart and use sudo-apt-get autoremove,,,,sudo apt-get update && sudo-apt-get upgrade
[08:39] <Gnea> Mongo44: */4 * * * * /root/my_brightness.sh
[08:40] <apb1963> yeah, that
[08:40] <impradeepy> exlcude -
[08:40] <impradeepy> in between sudo and apt
[08:41] <Mongo44> Damn it, it still says it is not found.
[08:41] <apb1963> make it executable
[08:41] <apb1963> Mongo44:  ll /root/my_brightness.sh
[08:42] <apb1963> show output
[08:43] <quantumpants> E:Malformed line 60 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse) how do i fix this guys?
[08:43] <apb1963> derp
[08:44] <Mongo44> Permission was denied. That mean I have a virus or something? I should be able to access everything right?
[08:44] <apb1963> quantumpants: impradeepy said to do sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:44] <Beldar> quantumpants, line 60 in gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:45] <apb1963> Mongo44: what does your prompt look like?  Is it # or $
[08:46] <quantumpants> how to do that, will try, sorry im a newb .
[08:46] <yash069> quantumpants: cat -n /etc/apt/source.list | grep 60
[08:46] <yash069> give this output
[08:47] <yash069> paste it here, should be a single line hopefully
[08:47] <Mongo44> Right, here it is: -rwx------ 1 home home 77 Dec  8 02:48 /root/my_brightness.sh*
[08:48] <apb1963> Mongo44: type sudo /root/my_brightness.sh
[08:48] <malt> Hello, I bought a used PC and it come with ubuntu linux and the CPU load wants to stay around 100 percent with orginal os just xchat installed and temp goes to 120F does that sound like a bad CPU? its a AMD 64 3400+
[08:49] <Mongo44> Ok, that make it permanent?
[08:49] <apb1963> Mongo44: No.  what happened?
[08:49] <impradeepy> malt: try to clean your fan first
[08:49] <yash069> malt: check for the running processes.
[08:50] <malt> I have with system monitor it shows anything i open stays at 100 percent on that process
[08:50] <malt> its very slow on any software
[08:50] <Mongo44> It executed: echo 50 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[08:50] <impradeepy> malt:u can reduce cpu usage by removing useless applications on startups
[08:50] <malt> its default just xchat installed
[08:51] <apb1963> Mongo44: remove "sudo tee" from that file
[08:51] <impradeepy> malt:go to dash and open startups
[08:51] <Gnea> Mongo44: okay, leave the tee part
[08:51] <Gnea> just get rid of sudo
[08:52] <apb1963> Gnea: Why?
[08:52] <Beldar> malt, You should be running a live cd/usb if you want to check it, and remove what is there already.
[08:52] <malt> same thing on live cd i downloaded
[08:52] <malt> showed firefox at 100%
[08:52] <Gnea> apb1963: because it needs to take the 50 and pass it on
[08:53] <malt> run from cd
[08:53] <apb1963> Gnea: he doesn't need to see it from crontab, does he?
[08:53] <Beldar> malt, ##hardware is the channel you need then.
[08:53] <impradeepy> malt:if you want to see by default hidden apps at startups then use this.. sudo sed -i 's/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g' /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop and now you will able to see all hidden apps
[08:53] <Gnea> apb1963: he just doesn't need to have 'sudo' in the script anymore
[08:53] <malt> I got a extra processor you think its worth a try, I don't think ubuntu would take that much resources
[08:54] <Beldar> startup apps will hardly cause this problem on a live cd and a install.
[08:54] <apb1963> Gnea: tee serves no purpose in the context he's using it
[08:54] <Gnea> apb1963: he's passing '50' on through a pipe torward the brightness file - he needs to have a way to grab that data from the pipe and put it into the file
[08:54] <impradeepy> beldar:i just wanna to free some ram
[08:54] <apb1963> Gnea: That's what the echo does
[08:54] <Gnea> apb1963: otherwise the script will assume that 'brightness' is an executable command
[08:54] <Mongo44> Without sudo permission is denied.
[08:55] <Gnea> apb1963: no, echo just creates '50' and places it into a buffer
[08:55] <deanrock0> hi, any idea how can i solve this:./configure: line 4362: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(USB, libusb-1.0 >= 1.0.0,,'
[08:55] <apb1963> Gnea: it's not executable?
[08:55] <Beldar> impradeepy, they should be on ##hardware for this.
[08:55] <deanrock0> I have libusb 1.0.0 and libusb-devi nstalled
[08:55] <Gnea> apb1963: no, it's a sys file, it's a direct communication link with the hardware
[08:56] <impradeepy> beldar:whats the use of ubuntu one it takes 35Mb??
[08:56] <apb1963> Gnea: Wait... he just wants to create a file with a 50 in it?
[08:56] <Gnea> apb1963: he wants to pass the value of '50' onto brightness so that his screen won't go dim on him automatically
[08:57] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone I am trying to loadbalance traffic across two interfaces, by adding two default routes with a nexthop option., But when I use the equalize flag, I get the error. 'either to is duplicate or equalize is a garbage'
[08:57] <Beldar> impradeepy, this is hardly a fix for what the problem is.
[08:57] <Gnea> Mongo44: okay, let's try something - did you edit the .sh file and remove sudo? you should be inside of a 'root shell' now
[08:57] <quantumpants> apb1963, beldar, yash069  this is line 60: deb http://archive.canonical.com/precise partner
[08:58] <Mongo44> What I am trying to do is dim the screen below the lowest given setting.
[08:58] <Gnea> okay
[08:58] <Gnea> either way, it needs to stick
[08:58] <yash069>  deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner
[08:58] <yash069> this is the correct
[08:58] <impradeepy> beldar: hardly but it will help, and by disabling useless running apps on startups reduces ram spaces, cpu usage, and then we look for the hardwares compatibility , right??
[08:59] <yash069> quantumpants: change the line to  deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner
[08:59] <impradeepy> malt:http://askubuntu.com/questions/78951/how-do-i-remove-a-malformed-line-from-my-sources-list should solve it
[09:01] <Mongo44> Gnea: I edited the file, my_brightness.sh
[09:01] <impradeepy> quantumpants:http://askubuntu.com/questions/78951/how-do-i-remove-a-malformed-line-from-my-sources-list should solve it
[09:01] <Gnea> Mongo44: okay, it should have on the 2nd line: echo 50 | tee /sys/blahblah/blah/brightness
[09:02] <Mongo44> Any reason it has that name, could it be anything?
[09:02] <impradeepy> sorry by mistake earlier i posted above link for mate
[09:02] <Mongo44> That is correct.
[09:02] <Gnea> Mongo44: figured it was appropriate for what you're trying to do to make it easier to remember later on
[09:03] <Gnea> Mongo44: okay, then quit and try running the script by itself: ./my_brightness.sh
[09:03] <Gnea> see if it errors
[09:06] <Mongo44> Yeah, permission denied.
[09:06] <quantumpants> its now line 61 E:Malformed line 61 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[09:07] <apb1963> Mongo44: do sudo /root/my_brightness.sh  does that work or give an errror?
[09:07] <quantumpants> now this line (61) is wrong! deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/precise partner
[09:08] <Gnea> Mongo44: what is the output of this command:  id
[09:09] <Mongo44> uid=1000(home) gid=1000(home) groups=1000(home),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),109(lpadmin),124(sambashare)
[09:09] <Mongo44> apb1963: It works in ~#
[09:10] <impradeepy> mongo44:which version of ubuntu are u usin?
[09:10] <quantumpants> yash069 this is the current line 61: deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/precise partner
[09:10] <apb1963> apb1963: And so it should work in crontab ... except that he prolly needs the full path to tee
[09:10] <apb1963> oh look i'm typing to myself
[09:10] <apb1963> Mongo44: And so it should work in crontab ... except that he prolly needs the full path to tee
[09:11] <apb1963> oh look now I'm typing to him
[09:11] <apb1963> lol
[09:11] <impradeepy> bi lol
[09:11] <impradeepy> big lol
[09:11] <yash069> quantumpants: change it to http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner
[09:11] <apb1963> I can barely keep my eyes open... I shouldn't be here
[09:11] <apb1963> Gnea: And so it should work in crontab ... except that he prolly needs the full path to tee
[09:11] <yash069> quantumpants: deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner
[09:12] <impradeepy> apb1963: ur solution is right :)
[09:12] <Mongo44> It is probably still temporary.
[09:14] <Mongo44> Alright what should I put into crontab?
[09:14] <asdk> hey guys can someone help me setup a crontab
[09:14] <asdk> ?
[09:14] <asdk> lol mongo same issue?
[09:15] <impradeepy> quantumpants: why are you wasting ur time and mind on editing source list?just resart it use purge,autoremove clean ur system first then start to update it because its no use to update if previuos unsitalled is totally removed from the system
[09:15] <quantumpants> that worked yash069, thanks :)
[09:15] <yash069> quantumpants: :)
[09:16] <Mongo44> Yeah, I am working with this command: echo 50 | tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[09:16] <asdk> is it in an sh script
[09:16] <asdk> you can only run scripts via cron
[09:16] <asdk> i have my script ready
[09:16] <apb1963> Mongo44: all fixed now?
[09:16] <asdk> but im having issues with the path
[09:18] <apb1963> asdk: vague
[09:19] <quantumpants> impradeepy im not very good with computers, im still learning :)
[09:19] <apb1963> asdk: Is there an error message?  what are you trying to accomplish?  what have you tried?  what is it, or is it not doing?
[09:19] <Mongo44> It does seem to be lasting a long time, I think it could be. In the future if I want this brightness I just have to rerun this command right?
[09:19] <asdk> sorry, ive set up cron with crontab -e, and i enter @reboot //home/admin2/run.sh
[09:20] <asdk> ive given permission to the script
[09:20] <asdk> chmod +x
[09:20] <asdk> and when i reboot the computer
[09:20] <apb1963> Mongo44: the purpose of putting it in the crontab file was so that cron will run it for you, every 4 minutes.
[09:20] <asdk> it fucks up the whole system for some reason, and i can no longer boot into my ubuntu
[09:20] <asdk> its very strange
[09:20] <asdk> it must be a path issue
[09:20] <kostkon> !language | asdk
[09:20] <geirha> asdk: what does run.sh contain?
[09:20] <asdk> sorry.
[09:21] <Gnea> Mongo44: when you type this command, what is the output?  crontab -l
[09:21] <geirha> asdk: If it makes any assumptions on what PWD is, then yes, it could've messed up your system
[09:21] <impradeepy> quantumpants:then you must first start with beggining you are editing source list??its not good for you to just copy and paste and solve your solution all i want to tell you that you should do it properly thats it
[09:21] <asdk> its a simple script, just exports the display, and starts cgminer, a mining program
[09:22] <Gnea> if [ ${PWD} != ${HOME} ]; then cd
[09:22] <geirha> asdk: and you're running it as which user?
[09:22] <asdk> there is only one user, admin2
[09:23] <geirha> asdk: Ok, and cgminer runs forever without backgrounding itself?
[09:23] <quantumpants> impradeepy, im always one for doing thinks the correct way, i just don't know how to most of the time. i really appreciate the help i get from you guys on  #ubuntu
[09:23] <asdk> yes
[09:23] <asdk> it just runs forever in a terminal window
[09:23] <asdk> i normally ssh into the system and run the script from my machine
[09:24] <geirha> asdk: then I'd consider running it in a screen
[09:24] <jjp> hai
[09:24] <asdk> sorry what do you mean "running it in a screen"
[09:25] <geirha> asdk: @reboot cd ~ && screen -d -m -S cgminer ./run.sh
[09:25] <jjp> == DaryL
[09:25] <impradeepy> quantumpants:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[09:25] <DaryL> mmh ?
[09:25] <asdk> and that will bring up a terminal window and run the script?
[09:26] <geirha> asdk: screen will provide a terminal for it, yes, and that screen will run in the background
[09:26] <geirha> asdk: you can connect to that terminal by running  screen -x cgminer
[09:26] <asdk> is there anyway i can run the script the same way as i ssh into the system?
[09:27] <asdk> cause when i run the script with the onscreen terminal sometimes it makes the rig unstable and it crashes
[09:27] <asdk> but i never encounter errors when i ssh and run it
[09:27] <geirha> asdk: onscreen terminal?
[09:27] <asdk> viewing the desktop
[09:27] <asdk> ctr alt T
[09:27] <asdk> terminal comes up
[09:27] <asdk> and i run the script
[09:27] <FloodBot1> asdk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:27] <geirha> asdk: why does it need DISPLAY anyway?
[09:27] <quantumpants> thanks impradeepy. how do I update the latest data from my local server? so i can get this system fully running smoothly ?
[09:28] <asdk> it needs exportdisplay=:0 to export all gpus of the graphics card
[09:29] <geirha> asdk: Ah ok, then running it via cron won't work at all
[09:29] <asdk> oh =/
[09:29] <asdk> anyway i can set that up with ssh?
[09:29] <geirha> asdk: You have to run it after the X server has been started, so the place to put it is in startup applications
[09:30] <geirha> then it'll run when you log in graphically
[09:31] <asdk> but I would prefer not to run it on the computers graphic display, because i get massive gpu rendering errors, and that eventually crashes the machine, if i ssh, then it also gets gpu rendering errors, but it can still process/"mine"
[09:32] <asdk> is there no way to automate my ssh connection, running of the script remotely?
[09:33] <impradeepy> quantumpants: u will get updates automatically  time to time just use software updater or use sudo apt-get updates
[09:34] <impradeepy> quantumpants: use sudo apt-get chache show package name to see whats the latest version available on your official repository, for example if u want to check for firfox then use sudo apt-get cache show firefox
[09:36] <daaku> i'm seeing apt-get update pull i386 package indexes with lines like "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted" -- is there a way to prevent this? i only need amd64 and this seems to slow down apt-get update quite a bit, and it's pretty impactful when testing stuff with debootstrap
[09:36] <geirha> asdk: there is, but it will fail if the remote end hasn't started the X server yet
[09:36] <impradeepy> quantumpants: or try this sudo apt-cache show package name
[09:37] <asdk> perhaps i can delay the script until the x server has started?
[09:42] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone, I'm trying loadbalancing two pppoe connections with sudo ip route add default scope global nexthop dev ppp0 weight 1 nexthop dev ppp1 weight 1, but it's only working for speedtest.net
[09:43] <Bumptiou_> Hello.  I am trying to add a catalyst driver to lubuntu 13.10, and it looks like only precise is available
[09:43] <Bumptiou_> i'm not sure how to add it as a source
[09:44] <jjp> hai
[09:46] <jjp> i cannt get ubuntu to display the shutdown window in my system ,any help?
[09:52] <DF3D2> I just wanted to thank you guys for making a linux OS that all my stuff was auto-detected and "just" works been banging my head against the wall for 2 days trying to make stuff work elsewhere
[09:54] <AB49K> I prefer debian, but I also have used ubuntu and I like it :)
[09:54] <DF3D2> I tried debian and nothing worked right
[09:54] <DF3D2> this laptop was 'too new' for it I guess
[09:54] <AB49K> Debian can be a little hard to get working lol
[09:55] <DF3D2> my wifi card is supported under ath9k but it just would not work on debian
[09:55] <DF3D2> no matter what I did
[09:55] <CookieM> debian needs some tuning to make it work properly
[09:55] <AB49K> But when you get it working, It's rock solid - and really good for servers :)
[09:56] <DF3D2> I had been using freebsd for awhile, and I got wifi to work on that. The maintainer actuall helped me via email, but I couldn't ever get flash to work -- it uses some linux compatibility layer
[09:56] <DF3D2> and who wants a laptop where you can't watch videos
[09:56] <AB49K> My laptop doesn't even have a GUI installed ._.
[09:57] <CookieM> yeah, ubuntu makes it work out-of-the-box
[09:57] <DF3D2> yeah, I installed ubuntu desktop just to test, but i'm gonna switch to xfce I don't like unity.
[09:57] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone, I'm trying loadbalancing two pppoe connections with sudo ip route add default scope global nexthop dev ppp0 weight 1 nexthop dev ppp1 weight 1, but it's only working for speedtest.net
[09:57] <DF3D2> my ethernet NIC isn't working, but it didn't work in freebsd/debian either. it's "too new" I guess
[09:57] <DF3D2> i dont really care, since my wifi works -- it is a laptop afterall
[09:58] <DF3D2> I came this close to having to install windows, heh i'd have been pissed
[10:00] <DF3D2> whoa, the touch screen on this thing even works
[10:01] <DF3D2> that's pretty cool
[10:02] <CookieM> DF3D2: which ubuntu are you using
[10:11] <DF3D2> so what is the easiest way to have a secondary screen be a set resolution, like I want to be able to use 1080p via hdmi on my hdtv when I connect this laptop, but the laptop screen is 1366x768
[10:16] <bekks> DF3D2: which GPU do you use?
[10:18] <DF3D2> bekks, it's just intel integrated hd4000
[10:19] <kostkon> DF3D2, easiest way? You set up the external monitor in system settings -> displays
[10:20] <DF3D2> kostkon, awesome
[10:20] <DF3D2> seeing you on the 70" tv now
[10:20] <DF3D2> :-D
[10:20] <kostkon> DF3D2, nice
[10:25] <DF3D2> okay here is what I don't get, I can mirror the displays but I don't exactly want that. If I select above,below,etc it has no task bar etc on the one that isn't primary or whatever
[10:25] <DF3D2> like, i'd like to have a movie playing on the tv and browse the net on the laptop
[10:26] <bekks> DF3D2: Then dont mirror, but "place" the TV "next" to your laptops screen (in the display settings), and just move the movie player window onto the TV.
[10:27] <DF3D2> bekks, place next to ?
[10:29] <DF3D2> okay I see I can drag windows, between the two that is really cool, but it keeps defaulting to the HDMI connection (tv) to have the primary display, taskbar etc
[10:32] <Trenton> hey
[10:32] <Trenton> yo draNOV
[10:41] <greenit> hi, how can i enter a startup-parameter in the install-media of ubuntu? the notebook i want to install ubuntu on only works when i enter "nomodeset acpi=off", but i don't know where i have to enter it at the install-media...
[10:41] <Stanley00> greenit: try press enter when you first see a purple screen when booting.
[10:41] <greenit> thx, i'll try :)
[10:42] <bekks> greenit: it is too late then. livecd offers a boot menu.
[10:43] <satosh> hello. i have a particular problem. i have put the ubuntu .iso on a usb stick and am using it as a live usb. now i want to install ubuntu on the same usb stick and there is plenty of space still left. but when i use the usb-creator-gtk it always asks me to erase the whole stick, which doesn't work as it also deletes the live ubuntu i am running as of now.
[10:44] <bekks> satosh: your approach isnt possible. use two usb sticks.
[10:44] <DF3D2> okay so pulse audio sees my usb-dac and I can use it in vlc if I specify it manually, however  pavucontrol and pacmd list-sinks don't list it as an output device, how can I fix this?
[10:44] <satosh> bekks: thanks!
[10:45] <DF3D2> like, how do I tell pulse this is a playback device, use it
[10:45] <greenit> bekks, where is the boot-menu and how can i enter it?
[10:45] <DF3D2> lol.
[10:45] <bekks> greenit: it is displayed when the livecd boots.
[10:45] <bekks> it asks you what to do.
[10:46] <greenit> bekks, i don't even get that far, there is only a purble background with an keyboard-icon at the bottom
[10:46] <greenit> purple*
[10:47] <bekks> greenit: the livecds I do know ask you what to do before doing something. Use as 12.04 cd e.g. and you will get a boot menu before purple screens whatsoever.
[10:47] <greenit> bekks, k, i'll try :)
[10:49] <DF3D2> so no one knows how I can set my usb-dac as default? it doesn't show up in pacmd list-sinks even though alsamixer see's it, and it outputs sound -- also alsamixer has no volume adjustment for it
[10:49] <DF3D2> for some reason
[10:54] <greenit> thx for the help bekks and Stanley00, works now :)
[10:57] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, here?
[10:59] <zezom> I'm trying to use open-iscsi to connect to an iscsi connection from my NAS. I also trying to use multipath-tools so that I can have automatic failover between my nics. However after setting it up I'm getting the following error when trying to mount the /dev/mapper/data path mount: /dev/mapper/data already mounted or /data busy
[10:59] <vimal> hi
[10:59] <zezom> is open-iscsi and multipath-tools inherently incompatable or have I just set it up wrong or is there a bug?
[11:00] <vimal> dont know im just a beginer
[11:00] <vimal> hi
[11:01] <vimal> why no virus in ubuntu?
[11:05] <DF3D2> hmmm im trying to manually add a sink to pulse audio but having no luck
[11:10] <ggherdov> how do you read the epub format (ebooks) on ubuntu ?
[11:11] <Stanley00> ggherdov: you can try fbreader,
[11:11] <ggherdov> Stanley00: ok thanks
[11:17] <DF3D2> load-module module-alsa-sink device=hw:1,0
[11:17] <DF3D2> in /etc/pulse/default.pa
[11:17] <DF3D2> but if i have that pulse won't start?
[11:17] <bekks> zezom: the error indicates that it is already mounted. you have to setup multipathing before mounting.
[11:19] <yourname> hi guys
[11:19] <DF3D2> nvm i fixed it, pulse was mad the device was in use for some reason
[11:19] <m71> iḿ looking for intergrated cpu temp monitor and sound alert when overheating. anyone has a tip for me? thanks!
[11:20] <Guest44357> i'm using ubuntu in headless mode, however it seems there is some strange ansii colour profile set that is making my irssi look weird
[11:20] <DF3D2> m71, no idea on a sound but u can install lm-sensors for temp
[11:20] <Guest44357> anyone know where i can set this back to defaults?
[11:21] <m71> DF3D2, thanks. I got that, but would be nice to have it integrated in the taskbar and have alarm ;) anyoner else any ideas?
[11:23] <DF3D2> just a tip if your machine is over heating you have bigger problems
[11:24] <m71> DF3D2, haha no itś not overheating but just a bit scared it will as Iḿ cpu mining altcoins
[11:24] <space_> help
[11:26] <space_> Is there any one who work in baidu music?
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> baidu is chinese, no?
[11:31] <SuperEngineer> m71: !Psensor
[11:31] <SuperEngineer> !Psensor
[11:31] <SuperEngineer> ho hum
[11:34] <Snikt> Hi. can someone tell how I can show saved wireless networks from console?
[11:35] <SuperEngineer> m71: Psensor is a GTK+ application for monitoring hardware sensors [& can show in taskbar - & has alarms]
[11:35] <space_> YES Baidu corporation
[11:36] <Snikt> (or add more of them)
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> space_: better ask in #ubuntu-cn, i guess
[11:38] <space_> MonkeyDust: ok thanks
[11:43] <Snikt> nevermind. found it. via nmcli
[11:44] <opalepatrick> trying to install 13.04 on an old machine but keep getting SIS630_smbus compatible bus not detected module not installed.
[11:44] <opalepatrick> appears to go back to 7.04 maybe
[11:45] <opalepatrick> Spotted something that suggests going to /etc/modprobe.d balcklist but I dont actually know how to install where I can get acces to this
[11:45] <opalepatrick> any pointers appreciated
[12:01] <lucasredsn0w> list
[12:03] <NeoKarna> Hi, nautilus is crashing when I try to copy files. Any clue on how to fix this ?
[12:05] <crocket> How do I get vlc 2.1.x on ubuntu 13.10?
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> crocket: for anything outside the repos, you need an external .deb or ppa, but that's not supported here
[12:16] <crocket> beh
[12:20] <resting> if i set time to sync with ntpdate? do i still need to bother about timezone? or are they 2 different things?
[12:20] <pulsar78> how do i skip the grub menu ? i had two installs of ubuntu, but now only one.
[12:22] <jrmy> so, I'm completely stumped on how to install ubuntu from network with a windows pc serving as the host
[12:22] <jrmy> I've tried looking for help online but I'm getting nowhere fast
[12:22] <pulsar78> why not use usb ?
[12:23] <aptget> jrmy: just ask
[12:23] <jrmy> so far both disc and usb have stopped responding part way through
[12:23] <jrmy> actually I'm running into the problem with syslinux or whatever it's called with a usb boot
[12:24] <bcuraboy> good morning guys.how can i share my home directory of ubuntu and acess it in windows?
[12:24] <Zemharir> salut
[12:24] <pulsar78> jrmy: use unetbootin
[12:24] <pulsar78> jrmy: when askey to overwrite while creating usb, press yes.
[12:25] <jrmy> pulsar78, ok I'll try it
[12:26] <pulsar78> jrmy: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[12:27] <bcuraboy> i've already installed samba and i suppose all the needed packages,and created a shared directory,but still when i logon in windows i don't see any of the shared folders
[12:27] <jrmy> also, I suppose I'm planning on using the system to run servers for games, so I'm not entirely sure if ubuntu server is a good fit or if I should just use the regular version
[12:28] <jrmy> bcuraboy, I remember setting it up once for windows to see the linux pc on my network, I completely forget how to do so though, lol
[12:29] <pulsar78> bcuraboy: disable window easy sharing
[12:29] <pulsar78> bcuraboy: windows
[12:29] <jrmy> pulsar78, is it really that easy? huh.. who would of guessed
[12:30] <bcuraboy> ok
[12:30] <bcuraboy> anything else'
[12:30] <pulsar78> jrmy: thats with everything, once you know how =)
[12:30] <jrmy> pulsar78, yeah, I've used samba, and another program like it before
[12:31] <pulsar78> bcuraboy: create an new user, share folder, give rights to user on the folder
[12:31] <pulsar78> bcuraboy: make sure you login with [yourcomputernamehere\usernamehere]
[12:31] <gonyere> so, I just ordered a new desktop with windows 8 which I assume means UEFI as well. Is there anything special I need to do to install Ubuntu?
[12:32] <gonyere> Is there anything that needs to be done to it w/in windows?
[12:32] <gonyere> Or can I just delete windows an install as per normal?
[12:33] <pulsar78> i installed on a mac mini, it has uefi to. was no problem
[12:36] <gonyere> k
[12:36] <gonyere> thanks :)
[12:40] <jrmy> yep, that did not work either, it says again no default or configuartion file found when I try booting from usb
[12:40] <jrmy> I'm pretty sure the pc has an issue with the syslinux thing
[12:41] <malt> what software can i get for temp on my cpu and video card
[12:42] <jrmy> I'm honestly about to give up and just junk this thing
[12:42] <jrmy> no idea why it just sits there/freezes when I try installing from cd either
[12:48] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:51] <jrmy> morning
[12:52] <srxavi> morning
[12:54] <rocketfuel> h
[12:54] <rocketfuel> hi all
[12:55] <rocketfuel> Weechat is going slow for some reason
[13:02] <jrmy> can I install ubuntu on a 8GB flash drive?
[13:02] <jrmy> an*
[13:03] <LjL> don't see why not
[13:03] <LjL> it'll be a bit tight maybe, but 8GB should be more than enough space to fit a basic root
[13:03] <pkkm> I installed xubuntu on a 16GB drive, it took less than 6GB iirc, including some files
[13:03] <LjL> indeed
[13:05] <jrmy> too bad I couldn't get that 16GB flash drive when I wanted to I had to settle with an 8Gig sometimes I really hate that store
[13:14] <makh> hi
[13:28] <pulsar78> jrmy: and is it working ?
[13:39] <jrmy> pulsar78, can't seem to figure this out
[13:39] <jrmy> gave up
[13:39] <SilverBoy> hi. now i finish to install ubuntu 13.10 where i can find the "Addictid Softuer" for dowloading drivers?
[13:40] <pulsar78> jrmy: where are you stuck ?
[13:40] <jrmy> why it says, regarldess of the iso installed, no default found or UI config
[13:40] <jrmy> I don't know
[13:40] <marc_> hello
[13:41] <SilverBoy> hi. now i finish to install ubuntu 13.10. where i can find the "Addictid Softwer" for dowloading drivers?
[13:42] <pulsar78> jrmy: so can you boot from usb ?
[13:42] <jrmy> nope
[13:43] <pulsar78> jrmy: what kind of hardware ?
[13:43] <jrmy> amd althon xp @1800mhx, onboard gpu, 512MB of ddr2
[13:44] <jrmy> mhz*
[13:44] <jrmy> atlhon*
[13:44] <jrmy> athlon**
[13:45] <pulsar78> jrmy: you attemp to pxe boot? because thats a pxe boot error
[13:46] <jrmy> I wouldn't even begin to know how to do a network boot
[13:46] <jrmy> unless pxe is something different
[13:46] <jrmy> afaik the iso I have is a usual one
[13:46] <pulsar78> jrmy: no its network boot
[13:47] <jrmy> nope, don't even have the slightest idea on how to do a network boot
[13:47] <opalepatrick> can I use gparted cd terminal to access an ubuntu install on hard drive? I need to get in to blacklist a file that is stopping boot up on new install
[13:47] <pulsar78> jrmy: have you downloaded the iso mulitple times or just once ?
[13:47] <Peace-> dic 08 14:43:32.562 [Avvertimento] /var/run/tor is not owned by this user (sem, 1000) but by debian-tor (116). Perhaps you are running Tor as the wrong user?
[13:47] <Peace-> runnign vidalia
[13:47] <Peace-> -.-
[13:47] <Peace-> ah maybe i need to reboot ?
[13:47] <jrmy> I tried redownloading it, but both times it hasn't worked with the same error, I can try installing wih a cd but it seems to freeze
[13:47] <Peace-> rebooting
[13:48] <cfhowlett> Peace-, tor?  are we in the right channel?
[13:48] <Peace-> cfhowlett: well it's ubuntu that doesn't start tor
[13:48] <cfhowlett> Peace-, OK
[13:48] <Peace-> cfhowlett: i need to undestand why ...
[13:48] <Peace-> but let me reboot
[13:48] <pulsar78> jrmy: what version 13.04 13.10 ?
[13:49] <kostkon> jrmy, 512mb of ram is too low for ubuntu though
[13:49] <cfhowlett> jrmy, ^^^ lubuntu is optimized for older and lower spec machines like yours
[13:49] <jrmy> I guess I'll try something else then
[13:50] <jrmy> thanks
[13:51] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[13:51] <Wiz_KeeD> can i please get some help with installing ubuntu and win8 in uefi?
[13:51] <Wiz_KeeD> Ubuntu does not detect wintod 8 which was installed before it
[13:51] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, cant' help with win8
[13:51] <Wiz_KeeD> I can format the entire hard-drive, i've done so about 10 times 1 more is not problem
[13:51] <Peace-> so yes cfhowlett i needed to reboot
[13:52] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone else?
[13:52] <Wiz_KeeD> I have seen that in the boor priorities I have the same devices (cdrom, toshiba hdd) with uefi and without
[13:52] <Wiz_KeeD> It just does not detect windows8 :(
[13:52] <Peace-> now tor works fine  ... i have found that adding myself to debian-tor group required to reboot  to be usefull
[13:54] <yash069> Wiz_KeeD: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[13:54] <Wiz_KeeD> yash069, read that like 10 times and other articles as well
[13:56] <yash069> so what exactly is the case now
[13:57] <SuperEngineer> need to go off-line for a mo to connect to 3G - downloading an iso and borrowed wifi won't hack it ;)
[13:57] <yash069> Wiz_KeeD: have u installed it
[13:57] <SuperEngineer> bbs
[13:57] <Wiz_KeeD> i just stated my sitiuation, I formatted the 25th time, I have windows running and botting with no problem and when I insert the live-cd wether it is in uefi mode or not it does not see my windows partition
[13:58] <Wiz_KeeD> and when I bought the notebook and placed the first few installs it did, I have no idea what changed
[14:04] <yash069> Wiz_KeeD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAnlhkbMang
[14:06] <Wiz_KeeD> yash069, secure boot is disabled for me
[14:06] <Wiz_KeeD> and also it has issues with ubuntu when isntalling since it cannot boot because of the lack of proper signature (from what I've read)
[14:07] <myhappy> hello everybody
[14:07] <yash069> Wiz_WeeD: lets find and kill person who made secure boot :(
[14:08] <ni885064> !list
[14:09] <compdoc> ubuntu has no warez, since the software is all free
[14:10] <Wiz_KeeD> yash069, secure boot is not enabled on my notebook
[14:11] <corsaronero> ciao
[14:11] <corsaronero> !list
[14:11] <yash069> Wiz_KeeD: can't help
[14:11] <Wiz_KeeD> ok np
[14:11] <Wiz_KeeD> nobody seems to be able to anyway
[14:16] <Hassen>  hello all,whatever,whenever and wherever you are
[14:18] <locoloco`> Wiz_KeeD: would you consider wiping Windows completely, installing Ubuntu then run Windows virtualbox?
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> that's what I have
[14:22] <ChrisFR06> Someone here ?
[14:22] <theadmin> ChrisFR06: Yup. Ask your question.
[14:22] <ChrisFR06> Thanks :)
[14:23] <ChrisFR06> I am running Ubuntu 13.10 and if I stay too long on Chrome my PC will freeze
[14:23] <ChrisFR06> And I always have to reset it
[14:23] <ChrisFR06> Do you know this problem ?
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> ChrisFR06: try chromium from the repos
[14:24] <ChrisFR06> You think it will help ?
[14:24] <ChrisFR06> Ok I'll try
[14:24] <ChrisFR06> But whats the difference between chrome and chromium, i know chromium is more "open" or something but does it have more or less features thanks Chrome ?
[14:25] <theadmin> ChrisFR06: Chrome has the exact same feature set as Chromium, plus a built-in Flash.
[14:25] <theadmin> ChrisFR06: But chromium in the repositories is modified to work properly with Ubuntu.
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome
[14:26] <ChrisFR06> Oh ok thanks
[14:26] <ChrisFR06> Ok i'll try to install chromium right now
[14:26] <ChrisFR06> THX :D
[14:26] <theadmin> I use Chrome without any issues but one, but sometimes things go weird.
[14:26] <locoloco`> ChrisFR06: simple rebranding, afaik, chromium lets Ubuntu's Document Viewer handle .pdf's
[14:27] <pulsar78> i have to wait on lirc 20+ seconds, is there a way to start the lirc daemon earlier in the boot process ?
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> !info lirc
[14:27] <Wiz_KeeD> locoloco`, nah not an option
[14:27] <Wiz_KeeD> especially when it worked before
[14:27] <Wiz_KeeD> and I have no idea how, God damn itr
[14:28] <ChrisFR06> And I have another problem, when i go fullscreen on a youtube vid that aint in 1080, for example a vid that has only 720p max resolution
[14:28] <ChrisFR06> the youtube screen shrinks and its ugly
[14:29] <ChrisFR06> does anyone have the same prob ?
[14:29] <xangua> ChrisFR06: flash sucks in linux, it's a fact
[14:30] <ChrisFR06> Yeah i noticed that :/
[14:31] <ChrisFR06> ok bye and thx :)
[14:32] <locoloco`> Wiz_KeeD: understand, sry cannot be of any help, staying away from windows period! Ubuntu all the way!
[14:32] <Wiz_KeeD> yeah I can understand that choice, nobody's judging you XD
[14:33] <strixUK> i'm running ubuntu on an EC2 instance in which I don't automatically get any swap.  i've written a script to (carefully!) repartition local storage (which happens to be an SSD) and enable swap.  where's the best place in the boot sequence to execute this script?
[14:34] <strixUK> eg how does upstart interact with the sysv init mechanism?
[14:34] <theadmin> strixUK: uh. May I suggest a swapfile instead?
[14:34] <strixUK> theadmin: sure, but why?
[14:35] <theadmin> strixUK: What you're trying to do sounds like a bad idea, resizing partitions of a running OS... eh.
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> if that can be done... partitions need to be unmounted to resize them
[14:36] <msafi> An app I'm trying to install requires Python 2.7.x, not Python 3.x. I think if I do apt-get install python-pip, I'll get the latest Python.
[14:37] <strixUK> theadmin: / (which is /dev/xvda1) is an EBS (think NAS) volume and is persistent across boots.  where available, locally attached storage gets repartitioned and new filesystems installed every time the VM is started, but otherwise is unmounted and has nothing on it.
[14:37] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> I use Windows 9 to run Ubuntu 14.04 in a virtual box.... :-P
[14:37] <Wiz_KeeD> win 9??
[14:37] <msafi> Can I still get the latest Python but run pip install myApp with 2.7?
[14:37] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> ohh man you are not up to date ?
[14:38] <strixUK> theadmin: so i have an sfdisk script that says 'create a 4 GB swap partition and use the rest of the space as a type x83 partition; make swap on xvdb1 and enable.
[14:38] <theadmin> msafi: You can install the "python3" package and run Py3 programs with "python3 myfile.py".
[14:38] <Wiz_KeeD> funny :))
[14:38]  * Lucid_Lynx_LTS laughs
[14:38] <msafi> theadmin, what about Python 2.7? I need that also to install this app
[14:39] <strixUK> theadmin: so far as i know, there is nothing dangerous about this.  the script gets the block device names via the system metadata mechanism that amazon offers, and i also have checks in the script to make sure it doesn't attempt to repartition an EBS volume i care about
[14:39] <theadmin> msafi: Python 2.7 comes with Ubuntu by default.
[14:40] <msafi> theadmin, I tried to do pip install myapp but got pip not available. So I apt-get install python-pip
[14:41] <msafi> theadmin, then I tried pip install myapp again, but encountered an error because it's Python 3
[14:41] <theadmin> msafi: Uh. Odd.
[14:41] <strixUK> theadmin: the question is, what in the boot sequence enables swap?  is it /etc/init/mountall?
[14:42] <newuser> hello, I installed the fallback session in ubuntu 13.10 a few months ago. I was having no problems at all. I use ubuntu in 2 laptops. I did an update onboth laptops and when I restart boom... I get to the login front page and when I log in with the admin account r any account
[14:42] <locoloco`> Wiz_KeeD: hehe, right channel to represent. Don't know if this could do the trick for ya? http://sourceforge.net/projects/cloverefiboot/
[14:42] <newuser> I I get a black screen and nothing else. What can I do?
[14:42] <theadmin> strixUK: That is correct.
[14:42] <theadmin> strixUK: ...as long as your swap is defined in fstab and not elsewhere.
[14:43] <strixUK> theadmin: currently i haven't got it in fstab, because the swap isn't there at that time
[14:43] <Wiz_KeeD> My issue is that I bought the notebook, installed win8 from stick then ubuntu alongside it, then boot repair and it worked
[14:43] <strixUK> theadmin: i could either put my script elsewhere in the boot sequence, or try to get my script to run before mountall
[14:43] <Wiz_KeeD> but I thought that was not the way to have it work and reformatted with 8.1 and 8.0 later, now ubuntu does not see win at all...
[14:43] <newuser> hello, I installed the fallback session in ubuntu 13.10 a few months ago. I was having no problems at all. I use ubuntu in 2 laptops. I did an update onboth laptops and when I restart boom... I get to the login front page and when I log in with the admin account or any account I get a black screen and nothing else shows up other than the mouse arrow pointer. Has anyone else experiences this issue? I did an apt-get update, purge, cle
[14:44] <strixUK> theadmin: mountall.conf only says 'start on startup', which isn't very helpful.  is there some way to get init to execute something /before/ mountall?
[14:46] <strixUK> looks like the sysv init scripts are invoked by upstart
[14:47] <theadmin> strixUK: They are, yes. But I'm not sure at whcih point in the startup sequence.
[14:47] <locoloco`> Wiz_KeeD: can you see the partitions in sudo fdisk -l ?
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD: also use lsblk and sudo blkid
[14:47] <Wiz_KeeD> i will format one more time
[14:47] <Wiz_KeeD> for what?
[14:48] <Wiz_KeeD> i think it's because one might be in uefi mode the other not
[14:48] <Wiz_KeeD> if you boot usb in uefi mode or not, then the cd-rom in uefi mode...or not
[14:48] <Wiz_KeeD> ghhhhhhhhhhh
[14:48] <newuser> black screen after login - has this been solved?
[14:48] <puffinho> nannes
[14:48] <puffinho> sei qui sopra !???
[14:48] <puffinho> Ciao a tutti
[14:49] <msafi> Anyone use mIRC with Wine?
[14:49] <aieie> ciao a tutti
[14:49] <DJones> !it | puffinho
[14:49] <puffinho> thanks
[14:49] <puffinho> ;)
[14:49] <aieie> hi
[14:51] <impradeepy> newuser:after fresh install?which version??
[14:52] <newuser> impradeepy: 13.10 on dell e6400 and toshiba c55-a. I did a fresh install a while ago. Everything was working fine
[14:53] <impradeepy> newuser:can u tell me what were u trying to do?
[14:54] <msafi> I entered Python in terminal and now I have >>>. How do I go back to the prompt?
[14:54] <Pessimist> msafi, ctrl-d
[14:54] <piotr_> quit
[14:54] <piotr_> exit
[14:54] <newuser> impradeepy: I just did an update on both pcs. Ohh I think it may be something screwed with the video card as I was trying to install cgminer on both pcs. Is there a way to reconfigure the video card?
[14:54] <msafi> Pessimist, piotr_ thanks! In Windows it's ctrl+c
[14:55] <theadmin> msafi: Ctrl+D is end-of-file, Ctrl+C is SIGINT.
[14:55] <theadmin> msafi: They do different things. Ctrl+C normally terminates an application in Linux, too.
[14:55] <piotr_> msafi: in linux Xchat?
[14:56] <impradeepy> newuser: yes, which graphic card are you using?
[14:56] <theadmin> msafi: But interactive things like shells and programming languages' interactive read-eval-print loops often expect an EOF mark
[14:56] <msafi> I'm just saying in the command propmt in Windows, ctrl+c will always take you back to the prompt.
[14:56] <theadmin> msafi: Not always. The Windows version of Python won't take that, either.
[14:56] <newuser> impradeepy: sorry I have no idea, how can I know? Im not an advanced user
[14:57] <impradeepy> newuser:Open up "Terminal", and type: lspci | grep VGA
[14:58] <newuser> impradeepy: nothing works, I did ctrl alt F2 and logged in. 00:02.0 VGA Compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[14:59] <newuser> impradeepy: both laptops are low end pcs,
[14:59] <msafi> So I just installed an app with pip install nvpy. How do I open it?
[15:00] <Pessimist> newuser, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you are in a terminal, not in X)
[15:00] <impradeepy> newuser:sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-all
[15:00] <impradeepy> newuser:first use this sudo apt-get autoremove
[15:01] <impradeepy> newuser:then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, then use sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-all
[15:02] <geirha> msafi: Check the docs for nvpy, or ask #python
[15:02] <impradeepy> newuser:just to check open source drivers are installed properly or not u to have to do thisall :)
[15:03] <newuser> impradeepy: l got the latest version
[15:05] <impradeepy> newuser:reboot and login again
[15:05] <newuser> impradeepy: I did an update, upgrade, autoclean, autoremove, clean, purge before trying what you suggest
[15:05] <newuser> impradeepy: just did
[15:06] <newuser> got the background and pointer but not the menu/start bar
[15:06] <impradeepy> newuser:still blackscreen?,can u show me one snapshot plz
[15:06] <newuser> impradeepy:  got the background and pointer but not the menu/start bar
[15:07] <newuser> impradeepy: I pressed ctrl+alt+F1, how can I switch back?
[15:07] <ThatPurpGuy> Can someone tell me how to repair my grub/mbr? I had a dual-boot setup and my ubuntu HD failed. The only way I can boot to windows at all now i with the supergrub disk. I'd like to get it to boot to windows until I get a new ubuntu HD.
[15:08] <circ-user-r9r3H> i need help
[15:08] <impradeepy> newuser:ctrl+alt+f7
[15:08] <m71> fg0-ds
[15:09] <Voziv> ThatPurpGuy: If your installs were on different drives and you installed your bootloader on the ubuntu hd, just set your bios to boot off the windows hd
[15:09] <newuser> impradeepy: I dont know how to share a screenshot. It would be pointless as only the standard purple background with the ubuntu 13.10 legend on the lower left and the arrow pointer shows up
[15:10] <impradeepy> newuser:are you using any other desktop environment than unity??or tried to use?? if yes then reset unity
[15:10] <impradeepy> newuser:no need to show snap just reset the unity now
[15:10] <newuser> impradeepy: yes, ok
[15:10] <Zelbinian> So, the default file browser in Ubuntu doesn't let you navigate by typing in a path - can anyone make a recommendation for one that does?
[15:10] <ThatPurpGuy> Voziv: I'm not 100% sure how my setup is with regard to where bootloader is...I'm going to restart and take a look at BIOS and try it.
[15:10] <impradeepy> newuser:reset both compiz and unity
[15:11] <^Mike> Zelbinian: Press CTRL-L and then type, IIRC
[15:11] <dondopa> Ok this is getting to me right now as to what could bewrongwith Ubuntu 13.10
[15:11] <Zelbinian> ^Mike: Thank you. I don't know how I ever would have figured that out without someone telling me.
[15:11] <dondopa> Is it ok if I post a link here showing you my problem?
[15:11] <ThatPurpGuy> Voziv: The only option in my bios is "harddisk" it doesn't look like there's a choice for one harddrive or the other.
[15:12] <dondopa> It happens randomly but most often when I turn on the computer and log in.
[15:12] <^Mike> Zelbinian: there's also a menu option "Enter Location" if you prefer the mouse
[15:12] <impradeepy> newuser:open terminal- then dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ , then setsid unity
[15:12] <dondopa> http://imgur.com/a/Y1P7T
[15:12] <newuser> impradeepy: I will need to do it from terminal as none of the sessions work. I got the black screen again. I was using the fallback
[15:13] <reidacocada1> i need hellp
[15:13] <newuser> impradeepy: I tried startx from terminal and it stalls at Loading extension GLX
[15:13] <impradeepy> newuser:do what i said,
[15:14] <newuser> impradeepy: sorry, didnt read last line
[15:14] <dondopa> There is also a bug in Ubuntu where if you play a video using VLC The Cursor dissapears
[15:14] <impradeepy> newuser:how can we help u?if u keep doing ur experiments?.you got the background just reset compiz and unity
[15:15] <strixUK> does upstart log output anywhere, and if so, where?
[15:16] <dondopa> http://imgur.com/a/Y1P7T This is my problem
[15:18] <impradeepy> dondopa:are you trying to upgrade ur system??
[15:18] <dondopa> NO
[15:18] <dondopa> I am trying to use it normally
[15:19] <impradeepy> dondopa:first tell me how got that?i mean to say what were u doing?
[15:20] <dondopa> Ok
[15:20] <newuser> impradeepy: ok, I wont try anything else on my own. Got this when executing dconf reset... Error spawning command line 'dbus-launch --autolaunch=... --binary-syntax --close-stderr': child process exited with code 1
[15:20] <dondopa> I wipedUbuntu 13.04 off my computer and did a fresh installation of 13.10
[15:20] <dondopa> installed my apps
[15:21] <dondopa> updated the system
[15:21] <impradeepy> dondopa:sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:21] <dondopa> Will that delete my files or mess with my configurations?
[15:22] <evon> I'm hooked up an external drive to my computer but it's not listed when I use fdisk -l and gparted is not picking it up either but It shows up in nautilus.  I need the /dev/sdX designation so I can use it in another program.  Any idea how I can remedy this?
[15:22] <impradeepy> dondopa:nothing
[15:22] <msafi> How can I map Alt+ and Alt- to Ctrl+PgUp and Ctrl+PgDn?
[15:22] <msafi> On Windows, I did it with AutoHotKey
[15:23] <sdx23> evon: what does the dmesg say?
[15:25] <evon> sdx23 it gives me a bunch of errors for sdc and sdd
[15:25] <newuser> impradeepy: after setsid unity got error: Compiz (opengl) - fatal: glxqueryenxtensionsstring is null for screen 0
[15:25] <evon> sdx23 but I'm aware of those.  It's not showing me the usb drive at all though
[15:26] <dondopa> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:26] <newuser> impradeepy: rebooted and got the black screen again in all sessions
[15:26] <dondopa> What does that do?
[15:27] <evon> sdx23 i'm going to try a quick restart of my computer and see what happens.
[15:27] <compdoc> dondopa, applies all updates/upgrades
[15:27] <impradeepy> newuser:you interrupted during the process wait lemme see it again
[15:27] <impradeepy> dondopa:hope ur prob got solved
[15:27] <compdoc> *all updates/upgrades for your version
[15:28] <dondopa> Well
[15:28] <dondopa> If it occurs again I will record it and show you
[15:28] <dondopa> It is a problem that happens randomly
[15:28] <dondopa> because this morning I logged in and I dont see any errors
[15:28] <compdoc> what?!!
[15:28] <dondopa> ANd maybe later on it might occur
[15:29] <impradeepy> dondopa:no mate just read some stuffs before  making any changes
[15:29] <dondopa> I did read some stuff about this issue and I dont  have any success
[15:29] <dondopa> That is why I came here
[15:29] <newuser> impradeepy: I dont understand what you mean when you said I interrupted during the process. I did nothing else than typing the command and wait for about 5 mins with no apparent changes
[15:30] <dondopa> Sometimes IRC is better than Internet search because the problem you find is just not specific
[15:30] <impradeepy> dondopa:because you were just doing copy and paste thats it
[15:30] <dondopa> You have to copy/paste theerror
[15:31] <impradeepy> dondopa: no first try see logs, issues use cat commands,grep,dmesg,
[15:31] <dondopa> HowDo I access the log file for this particular issue?
[15:32] <impradeepy> dondopa:when u wanna install something just check what version available in ur officia repo by using sudo apt-cache showpkg
[15:32] <gordonjcp> !en | impradeepy
[15:32] <impradeepy> dondopa:cat/var/log/issue
[15:33] <dondopa> thanks
[15:33] <impradeepy> yw
[15:34] <theadmin> impradeepy: You do not need sudo to use apt-cache
[15:35] <darkc0der> Hi, I was wondering if anyone knew how I could use the default window theme or change to it on xubuntu 13.10. I have compiz fusion installed which uses GTK.. i tried a few things like some editors, any suggestions?
[15:36] <dondopa> It doesnt do anything
[15:37] <vinllen> hello
[15:37] <FourFire> Hello
[15:37] <vinllen> ^_^
[15:37] <FourFire> I have a minor problem with my HP probook 4320s
[15:37] <dondopa> 2013-12-03 10:31:00 status unpacked linux-image-3.11.0-14-generic:amd64 3.11.0-14.21
[15:38] <vinllen> I am a begginer in ubuntu....
[15:38] <FourFire> I have swapped hard drives with another, exact same laptop (because of failing original drive), installed a new Ubuntu (12.04) on it and when it boots, it doesn't boot
[15:39] <FourFire> It comes to some grub rescue terminal in 800x600 resolution
[15:39] <FourFire> unless, I select boot options in the BIOS and manually select "notebook harddrive" from boot options
[15:39] <FourFire> how may I fix this issue?
[15:40] <vinllen> the grub doesn't work?
[15:42] <FourFire> The first line which shows in the grub rescue terminal refers to some device "w17h-l0t5-0f-h3x-c0d3-s7r1ng5-c0nn3c73d-8y-hyph3n5" which I assume is some ID for my old harddrive
[15:43] <FourFire> I am assuming that a fix involves in some way locating where this id is stored and editing it into my current drive's equivalent
[15:43] <ryu_> is there an nvidia/xorg ubuntu channel?
[15:43] <FourFire> unfortunately I have no idea how to begin locating this and my google fu is not as strong as that of more experienced linux users
[15:44] <ryu_> somehow 'bumblebee' managed to screw up my nvidia drivers, I think I have some remnants of it laying around, but I purged everything and did a reinstall, the driver says active but is never in us
[15:44] <dondopa> What is wpa_supplicant?
[15:44] <dondopa> This is a Segfault error
[15:45] <ryu_> anyone have any ideas how to fix this?
[15:45] <FourFire> ryu_: there's a german site which lists many IRC channels: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode&chat=xorg+nvidia
[15:46] <locoloco> ryu_: you also victim of that nVidia Optimus nonsense?
[15:46] <ryu_> maybe
[15:46] <ryu_> I saw that on some google stuff
[15:47] <ryu_> I dont even want bumblebee
[15:48] <dondopa> Segfault happened at: 0x4b1795: mov 0x8(%rbp),%edi
[15:48] <dondopa> PC(0x004b1795) ok
[15:48] <dondopa> source"0x8(%rbp)" (0x200000008) not located in a known VMA region (needed readable region)!
[15:48] <dondopa> destination"%edi" ok
[15:48] <dondopa> SegvReason
[15:48] <FloodBot1> dondopa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:48] <dondopa> 	reading unknown VMA
[15:48] <marjan> hi all ....i would realy need some help instaling wireless drivers
[15:48] <marccc> moin
[15:48] <ryu_> locoloco: do you have any additional info?
[15:48] <dondopa> ok
[15:48] <dondopa> sorry
[15:48] <marccc> hi all
[15:49] <usr13>  !nvidia | ryu_
[15:49] <ryu_> looks like the nvidia module isnt even loaded when I do lsmod | grep nvidia
[15:49] <FourFire> so can  anyone assist me with my apparent hard drive ID problem?
[15:50] <usr13> ryu_: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia*list  #Tell us what it says.
[15:50] <marccc> is there any aquainted with x11vnc?
[15:50] <locoloco> ryu_: spent countless hours trying to troubleshoot messed up driver situation but to no avail. Ended up re-installing 13.10 without any changes to video settings.
[15:50] <dondopa> http://pastebin.com/sxVF8vSG
[15:50] <marccc> i'm trying to get it working after my upgrade but it fails to startup
[15:51] <usr13> ryu_: lsmod |pastebinit  #Send us resulting URL and well will have a look.
[15:51] <compdoc> marccc, upgrade to what?
[15:51] <marccc> from 11.04 to 12.04
[15:51] <ryu_> I just privmsged
[15:51] <ryu_> its only a few lines
[15:51] <msafi> I want to get more familiar with how to configure hardware settings and driver settings, is there a book that I can read to understand Linux better in this regard? I'm a total noob.
[15:51] <marccc> i don't use it often compdoc
[15:51] <usr13> ryu_: Who are you talking to?
[15:51] <ryu_> you
[15:51] <impradeepy> marjan: tell me
[15:51] <ryu_> usr13: you
[15:51] <marccc> but i use it to monitor my old dad
[15:51] <compdoc> marccc, you may need to make changes in your .vnc/xstartup
[15:52] <ryu_> the nvidia module isnt being loaded it appears
[15:52] <LjL> ryu_: it's not generally considered very good manners to pm people multiline output like that...
[15:52] <usr13> ryu_: So what is it doing?  (What does your screen look like?)
[15:52] <ryu_> 1024x768
[15:52] <usr13> ryu_: What is it supposed to be?
[15:52] <ryu_> cant run nvidia-settings, cause it says nvidia-xconfig isn't there
[15:52] <ryu_> no 3d
[15:52] <usr13> ryu_: lsmod |pastebinit  #Send us resulting URL and well will have a look.
[15:53] <ryu_> because probably the module isnt loaded
[15:53] <marccc> compdoc: i'm not sure what i should changes, because the error message is not giving me any hope of resolving
[15:53] <ryu_> there is no output from lsmod | grep nvidia
[15:53] <usr13> ryu_: Are you talking to me?
[15:53] <FourFire> In disk utility: my hard drive, which is installed in the only internal drive bay, is listed as a peripheral storage device
[15:53] <compdoc> marccc, what are the error messages? post them on pastebin.com
[15:53] <marjan> i dont know if i have bcm4312 or bcm415 and i tryed to install drivers but after restart they dont load or it frezes computer rigt away
[15:53] <ryu_> usr13: no
[15:53] <FourFire> [user]@LocalHost is completely blank
[15:54] <FourFire> I want to make my main drive LocalHost, right?
[15:54] <usr13> ryu_: I did not see anyone ask if there was an output from lsmmod |grep nvidia
[15:54] <ryu_> then why'd you ask when you knew
[15:54] <marjan> bcm4315*
[15:55] <ryu_> http://pastebin.com/vfBt7gjt
[15:55] <impradeepy> marjan:use lspci
[15:55] <hylian> how do i completely update and install all the apps from one machine onto another without internet?
[15:55] <ryu_> hylian: a USB key
[15:55] <evon> I can't see my mouse cursor.  Can anyone help?
[15:56] <hylian> ryu_: ok... but how? I cant move this machine, and I need to install all the apps and updates/upgrades this machine has onto another without internet..??
[15:56] <marccc> compdoc: http://pastebin.com/Vf7xjrHp
[15:57] <dondopa> http://i.imgur.com/hBZrPTX.png?1 This picture is suggesting not justa Segfaulterror but it is saying something about "not being in a suitable region"
[15:57] <marjan> impra, there it says bcm 4312 but whwn i added something to lspci it sayed bcm4315
[15:58] <compdoc> marccc, sinc eyou upgraded, maybe you should remove that x11vnc and reinstall the one in the current 12.04 repos
[15:58] <marjan> sorry im here in the dark i cant type right
[15:58] <marccc> comdoc let me check
[15:59] <yeats> evon: it may be an instance of bug 1238410
[15:59] <yeats> evon: this may be a good workaround: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1238410/comments/4
[16:00] <usr13> evon: If you log out of the GUI and back in, it might come back.
[16:00] <impradeepy> marjan:lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4
[16:00] <usr13> evon: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[16:02] <locoloco> hylian: this what you are looking for? http://www.maketecheasier.com/update-upgrade-ubuntu-without-internet-connection/
[16:02] <lifebird64> How in the world do you move a window between multiple monitors using a keyboard shortcut? In winblows, it's simple (ctrl+shift+left/right).
[16:02] <marjan> impra, it says bcm4312
[16:03] <lifebird64> can't find out how to do this in Ubuntu though :S
[16:03] <ramadhan> what is channel for out of topic ubuntu??
[16:03] <gordonjcp> ramadhan: #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:03] <marjan> i tryed install it but  after restart it does not load
[16:03] <ramadhan> gordonjcp : thank you so much
[16:03] <usr13> lifebird64: Depends on how you have your system configured, but dragging it from one to the other usually works ok.
[16:04] <lifebird64> usr13: right... but when the other monitor is a TV half way across teh room, which is off, dragging isn't an option.
[16:04] <physicist> Greetings.
[16:04] <impradeepy> marjan:you are not able to see in additional drivers?
[16:05] <lifebird64> usr13: so I'm looking/hoping for a keyboard shortcut in lieu of click/drag
[16:05] <physicist> Happened a terrible and stupid thing with me.
[16:05] <usr13> lifebird64: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/list-of-ubuntu-unity-keyboard-shortcuts.html
[16:06] <hylian> locoloco: maybe, but I don't want to have to re-download anything again. I already should have all that stuff already on my upgraded/completed machine... will this work without re-fetching the same stuff this machine already has?
[16:06] <physicist> I would like to compile a new kernel on my 13.04 Raring and guess what? I deleted all kernels and now, my ubuntu not even shows up!!! Wow. how can I fix that?
[16:06] <impradeepy> marjan:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx should solve your problem but if u still face any problem then do ask us :)
[16:06] <marjan> yes but they dont install
[16:07] <marjan> i tryed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[16:07] <lifebird64> usr13: thanks; but this only covers windows and workspaces. workspaces != monitors.
[16:07] <RMND> hi guys
[16:07] <physicist> ???
[16:07] <impradeepy> marjan:which version of ubuntu?
[16:08] <physicist> I need help fellas.
[16:08] <marjan> 12.04 lts
[16:08] <physicist> I would like to compile a new kernel on my 13.04 Raring and guess what? I deleted all kernels and now, my ubuntu not even shows up!!! Wow. how can I fix that?
[16:08] <usr13> lifebird64: So as you can see, if you have your system configured so that one workspace is on one monitor and the other is on the other monitor, Ctrl-Alt-Shift-right_or_left should do the trick.  (I would assume that you would need to limit workspaces to only 2, instead of the default or 4).
[16:08] <RMND> i just installed ubuntu 13.10 with nvidia drivers and bumblebee, but when i try running stuff with optirun i get an error: "error: [XORG] (EE) Failed to load module "glamoregl" (module does not exist, 0)"
[16:08] <RMND> anyone know how to fix this?
[16:09] <impradeepy> marjan: sudo apt-get remove  bcmwl-kernel-source package
[16:09] <lifebird64> usr13: maybe I have things configured wrong. my monitor's don't seem to be linked to different workspaces; they seem to behave as if part of one.
[16:09] <marjan> ok...
[16:09] <hylian> locoloco: it looks like remastersys might just be the ticket... thanks for the heads up though!
[16:09] <lifebird64> usr13: you've given me something to chew on though; thanks :)
[16:09] <impradeepy> marjan:reboot and tell me if it works or not
[16:09] <marjan> ok
[16:10] <usr13> lifebird64: Yea, I really don't know the answer, I normally just use one monitor, I only worked with two monitors for a short time.
[16:11] <locoloco> hylian: np, that should also do the trick. In any event, good luck!
[16:11] <physicist> I would like to compile a new kernel on my 13.04 Raring and guess what? I deleted all kernels and now, my ubuntu not even shows up!!! Wow. how can I fix that?
[16:11] <usr13> lifebird64: ... which was some time ago.  Someone else here may have better or more detaied information/advice.
[16:13] <RMND> anyone? :(
[16:15] <thorsten_> gl
[16:15] <usr13> RMND http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2181869
[16:17] <Extreminador> guys when using a personal proxy server nad if we use (for example) a web site to know our ip address , the site will indicate the ip address of the proxy correct ?
[16:17] <physicist> Could anybody help me?
[16:17] <Extreminador> sorry about asking this in this channel, but not sure what other channel i could use
[16:19] <fego> physicist: you need to grab a live cd/usb, mount a few essential filesystems, chroot into it and install the kernel.
[16:20] <impradeepy> physicist:whats ur bug?
[16:20] <fego> details can be found here. http://askubuntu.com/questions/28099/how-to-restore-a-system-after-accidentally-removing-all-kernels
[16:20] <physicist> impradeepy, I would like to compile a new kernel on my 13.04 Raring and guess what? I deleted all kernels and now, my ubuntu not even shows up!!! Wow. how can I fix that?
[16:20] <physicist> fego, thank you.
[16:20] <fego> np
[16:21] <impradeepy> physicist:reinstall ur grub n update it
[16:21] <physicist> I am right now in a sabayon live cd.
[16:21] <pratz> Hello guys
[16:21] <pratz> I am using ubuntu 12.04
[16:21] <fego> impradeepy: he mentioned he does not have a working kernel, upgrading grup would not find one.
[16:22] <physicist> fego: Its pretty simple. I was very scared.
[16:22] <pratz> deluge client is consuming 100% cpu usage, so I searched on net and found a patch, but I can not find that file on my machine
[16:22] <pratz> here https://git.gnome.org/browse/pygtk/commit/?id=4cbd3c031289775f365c247f949d91facac4ba82
[16:22] <impradeepy> fego: can do i via live media
[16:22] <impradeepy> fego:can do it via live media
[16:22] <fego> physicist: simple but need careful handling, please proceed with care after reading the references.
[16:22] <pratz> can any one let me know where this file can be located on 12.04
[16:24] <physicist> fego: I have some others o.s's on my hd. Should I be more specific: E.g. mnt /dev/sda6
[16:24] <fego> physicist: yes, that is fine, most of us multiboot. :)
[16:24] <usr13> pratz: What file?
[16:25] <impradeepy> pratz:file name?
[16:25] <pratz> fego: impradeepy https://git.gnome.org/browse/pygtk/commit/?id=4cbd3c031289775f365c247f949d91facac4ba82
[16:25] <ttist25> Good morning - I've got a two disk Ubuntu software RAID that's degraded due to one of the disks having issues.  I'm going to build a new system in the near future but I'm trying to get some files off of that Array before I do.  I have booted to a live CD and installed mdadm and can see the files but copying is extremely slow.  Is it possible for me to "de-couple" the array and just access the files from the good drive?  PS - I'm in a bit over my head but,
[16:25] <ttist25>  who's not right?  :)
[16:25] <hylian> I am backing up everything in / except /home and /media. If I just dump this onto a fresh install of ubuntu and the sudo update-grub, will there be any problems?
[16:26] <ididitagain> i am lost without a purpose
[16:26] <ididitagain> can you forgive me god
[16:26] <ididitagain> i freely give this calloused heart
[16:26] <pratz> fego impradeepy  gtk.override
[16:26] <fego> pratz: find / -name gtk.override -print 2> /dev/null
[16:27] <ididitagain> !ops | hi ljl
[16:27] <fego> the above commandline would search all of the / dir and report back if the file is found.
[16:27] <unknwn> quick question, i installed libboost-dev-all.
[16:27] <unknwn> where can i find the files to include in the project.
[16:27] <pratz> fego: does not return any thing
[16:27] <usr13> pratz: You are looking for a file called impradeepy?
[16:27] <unknwn> sorry if its obvious just switched from windows to ubuntu
[16:27] <ididitagain> !ops | hi ljl
[16:27] <RMND> I installed Ubuntu 13.10 and bumblebee with nvidia proprietary drivers aferwards (for nvidia optimus support). When i try running stuff with optirun, I get the following error: "[ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) Failed to load module "glamoregl" (module does not exist, 0)". Does anyone know how to fix this error?
[16:27] <fego> pratz: i am afraid the file is not in your system then.
[16:27] <usr13> pratz: And why do you keep sending that link?
[16:28] <impradeepy> kinda bussy right now guys
[16:28] <ididitagain> !ops | ive made so many mistakes, ive broken so many promises ive searched inside and i am empty will you save me GOD
[16:28] <ArGGu^^> Hello, I installed Ubuntu server on my mining rig, Server edition because there is no more alternative cd and the live cd fails to start X without fglrx.
[16:28] <ArGGu^^> But I'm getting this error error: error creating symbolic link `/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xorg/extra-modules.dpkg-tmp': No such file or directory
[16:29] <ArGGu^^> when I try to install fglrx-updates
[16:29] <ArGGu^^> on Ubuntu 13.10
[16:30] <usr13> ArGGu^^: How are you installing it?
[16:31] <usr13> ArGGu^^: Are you uding the package manager?
[16:31] <physicist> fego: I'm connected but its unable to fetch packages. What is happening?
[16:31] <usr13> *using* not uding
[16:31] <ArGGu^^> usr13 yes, I'm installing it from repos
[16:32] <usr13> ArGGu^^: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:32] <fego> physicist: are you connected to the internet on the live env?
[16:33] <physicist> fego: Yes.
[16:33] <impradeepy> lol
[16:33] <hylian> whenever I try to copy everything in / it tells me there is roughly 140tb. While I do wish I had a 140 tb hard drive, sadly I do not. What am i doing wrong here? I just want to back this stuff up...
[16:33] <fego> what does apt-get say?
[16:34] <physicist> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[16:34] <impradeepy> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:34] <usr13> ArGGu^^: If all that goes ok with no errors, try:  sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates
[16:35] <physicist> fego: E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[16:35] <ArGGu^^> usr13 yeah it goes, but I did update and upgrade just before I tried installing fglrx, but I did it again. thought there were nothing to upgrade.
[16:35] <fego> physicist: yes, try apt-get update first.
[16:36] <hylian> what folders do i need to backup to get all the updates and installed apps? (I know about /var/cache/apt/archives)
[16:36] <physicist> fego: E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[16:37] <usr13> ArGGu^^: sudo dpkg-reconfigure fglrx-updates
[16:37] <physicist> fego: Can be happening because I'm in a Sabayon live cd? Must be Uubntu live cd?
[16:37] <impradeepy> physicist:sudo apt-get autoremove
[16:38] <physicist> impradeepy: Same thing.
[16:38] <physicist> Fail.
[16:38] <fego> physicist: i dont know sabayon, the repos could be different yeah.
[16:38] <ArGGu^^> usr13 /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: fglrx-updates is broken or not fully installed.
[16:39] <ArGGu^^> usr13 I will purge fglrx-updates and try fglrx instead.
[16:39] <physicist> I will insert an Ubuntu live cd and come back later. Wait for me with the link please guys. I appreciate.
[16:40] <hylian> sorry I bothered you folks, I think i solved my own questions. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR i think is my solution. Bye all!
[16:40] <physicist> fego, impradeepy, I will insert an Ubuntu live cd and come back later. Wait for me with the link please guys. I appreciate.
[16:41] <fego> physicist: that would be a wise idea, best of luck. :)
[16:41] <impradeepy> ok
[16:46] <zacktu> I'm trying to do cups administration and can't login to the admin page.  I've followed the instructions in the Ubuntu Official Documentation.   I need help.
[16:48] <Wiz_KeeD> dude wtf, I run the livecd and it does not show any partitioned space
[16:48] <Wiz_KeeD> even though windows is installed
[16:48] <Wiz_KeeD> nobody knows this really? ikonia are you there?
[16:49] <Vivekananda> Wiz_KeeD: seems like everyone is away
[16:50] <Wiz_KeeD> yeah...seems so
[16:50] <Wiz_KeeD> lucky for me
[16:50] <Vivekananda> so what was it you looking for ? I can try although am not very adept at stuff
[16:50] <giammyje> Hello everybody!
[16:51] <giammyje> There is anyone?
[16:51] <jmgk> hi
[16:51] <jmgk> hello hello
[16:51] <Vivekananda> sure giammyje ther are people ask away
[16:51] <thai-2012> Hi :)
[16:51] <Vivekananda> hello jmgk
[16:51] <jmgk> hey Vivekananda
[16:51] <jmgk> :)
[16:51] <giammyje> :5
[16:51] <usr13> zacktu: firefox localhots:631
[16:51] <usr13> localhost
[16:52] <usr13> zacktu: firefox localhost:631
[16:52] <impradeepy> Wiz_keep: are you using a single partition?
[16:52] <jmgk> hi impradeepy
[16:52] <impradeepy> hello
[16:53] <zacktu> usr13: I'm further than that.  I'm using the web interface and and have also added myself to the lpadmin list.    My username and password aren't accepted.
[16:53] <giammyje> Did Someone know how install an arm-compiled distro on a tablet?
[16:53] <giammyje> Not ubuntu-phone
[16:54] <thai-2012> sorry for strange question.... but.  in Ubuntu, Is there a option to restore to a previous state? For example, if I set a bad driver and system crashes... how can i reastore to prev. day?
[16:55] <giammyje> Sorry thai, i don't know
[16:55] <theadmin> thai-2012: No way, unless you made a manual backup
[16:55] <usr13> zacktu: Are you using the original user that that you had from the start.
[16:55] <usr13> ?
[16:56] <thai-2012> in windows, we have "System restore point" But in Ubuntu... no?
[16:56] <impradeepy> thai-2012: uninstall it and then reinstall  the previous one manualy
[16:56] <theadmin> thai-2012: No. Duplicity (the backup tool that comes with Ubuntu) provides similar functionality for user's data, but not systemwide
[16:56] <Corsaro> ciao
[16:56] <Corsaro> !list
[16:56] <thai-2012> impradeepy Thank you
[16:56] <msafi> How do I check what version of Unity I have?
[16:56] <thai-2012> theadmin Thank you)))
[16:58] <thai-2012> Why do I ask? just now I wanted to install something, which I doubt
[16:58] <impradeepy> thai-2012:just remember when u are uninstalling use all related settings by using sudo apt-get purge package
[16:58] <physicist> Greetings, fego, impradeepy.
[16:58] <physicist> Where is the link?
[16:58] <usr13> zacktu: grep zacktu /etc/group |pastebinit  #Send resulting URL, we will look and see.
[16:58] <impradeepy> physicist:prb solved??
[16:58] <glitsj16> msafi: running 'apt-cache policy unity' from terminal will tell you which unity you have installed
[16:59] <physicist> I impradeepy I changed the live cd. I am in an Ubuntu`s now.
[16:59] <zacktu> usr13: I'm the only user on the computer
[16:59] <thai-2012> impradeepy Ok) Thank you))) i'm starter Linux user)
[16:59] <impradeepy> physicist:use sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:59] <impradeepy> thai-2012:always wc:)
[16:59] <physicist> fego, I need the link again. Can you give now?
[16:59] <jmgk> impradeepy:  hello
[16:59] <physicist> impradeepy: I need the link ask ubuntu...
[16:59] <jmgk> :)
[17:00] <usr13> zacktu: You are either miss-typing the user or password
[17:00] <locoloco> zacktu: you did su lppasswd -a yourusername and confirmed part of lpadmin in groups
[17:00] <impradeepy> physicist: i did not give u sorry :)
[17:00] <usr13> zacktu: After you added yourself to additional group, did you log out and back in again?
[17:01] <physicist> I founded.
[17:01] <usr13>  grep zacktu /etc/group |pastebinit  #Send resulting URL here
[17:02] <impradeepy> physicist:do one more thing go to software resources and then other softwares check if u find any conflicting ppa if so then delete it and your problem will get solved
[17:02] <zacktu> usr13: I haven't done that.  I'll do it and see what happens.  That will also for sure restart everything.  Bye
[17:03] <marjan> hello again
[17:03] <jmgk> hi marjan
[17:03] <jmgk> where do you come from ?
[17:03] <jmgk> :)
[17:03] <physicist> impradeepy: The problem was the live cd. Probably. I ran apt-get update and worked. I am now waiting the update for install linux headers.
[17:03] <marjan> europe :)
[17:03] <jmgk> ah
[17:04] <marjan> slovenia
[17:04] <marjan> you?
[17:04] <physicist> marjan: Good. I am from South America.
[17:04] <physicist> marjan: Sorry the entrance.
[17:04] <marjan> so i finally got the wi-fi working
[17:04] <physicist> marjan: Amazing place.
[17:05] <marjan> yes
[17:05] <marjan> np
[17:05] <impradeepy> physicist:was live as well as conflicting ppas
[17:05] <impradeepy> marjan:your wifi working now?
[17:05] <physicist> Yes.
[17:05] <el-bethel> hi there need a help on how to print  using deskjet printer  drivers in ubuntu
[17:06] <marjan> yes i uninstaled thet i updated ubuntu and i instaled also low power drivers
[17:06] <marjan> that*
[17:06] <impradeepy> marjan:u owe me a thanku :D
[17:07] <physicist> el-bethel: Just search for hp-lip on goole, in the hp website, download the latest .bin file, according with your print model, and run it.
[17:07] <marjan> yes :D thank you a lot!
[17:07] <marjan> but i dont know what realy did the trick
[17:08] <marjan> update or low power drivers or that uninstal :)
[17:08] <el-bethel> physicist, can i have the link for that cause even when its not detected when i connect and run command lsusb
[17:08] <impradeepy> marjan:actually there is a bug in latest bcmwl source package so i told u to uninstall the new one and install previous one
[17:09] <physicist> el-bethel: looking in the print label for the exactly model.
[17:09] <marjan> the comunity will make a fix?
[17:10] <mapps> hi - can someone help me..trying to compile an apache module manually from the svn trunk ..got the files downed using svn co looked at the readme and a bit stuck :)
[17:11] <anonymous_> hwllloooooo
[17:11] <el-bethel> physicist, its hp deskjet 1000
[17:12] <impradeepy> marjan:donot worry many of us has already reported that bug to broadcom,and they replied that it will get fixed in 14.04lts so cheers:)
[17:12] <anonymous_> hello
[17:12] <marjan> is there something to use android apps in the ubuntu
[17:12] <anonymous_> http://macscollegekaranja.co.in/news.php?action=admin
[17:12] <dondopa> Lol I wish
[17:12] <anonymous_> cracked
[17:12] <marjan> ok , thay are great
[17:12] <DJones> anonymous_: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[17:12] <mapps> hi anonymous_
[17:12] <anonymous_> yah
[17:13] <anonymous_> hi mapps
[17:13] <mapps> whats up
[17:13] <anonymous_> not great
[17:13] <marjan> coz android is based on linux?
[17:13] <mapps> what can we help with
[17:13] <msafi> Is there an app or a shortcut to place a in say 60% of the screen?
[17:13] <anonymous_> yeh
[17:14] <anonymous_> systeamtor notwork
[17:14] <marjan> and under windows thay are running slow
[17:14] <anonymous_> no
[17:14] <anonymous_> install in hd
[17:15] <anonymous_> mapps where from u
[17:15] <mapps> #xubuntu-offtopic for chat anonymous_  it aint allowed here dude
[17:15] <Kartagis> how to update the path for `which` ?
[17:17] <diehard> how do you make one of these IRC client and server?
[17:17] <anonymous_> hey mapps u can sent any 202.0.0.0. i[forcracking'
[17:17] <mapps> what does that mean
[17:17] <danivasel> i just asked this on the xubuntu channel. Itś about my internet connection crashing very often. Then I have to go to "hidden connections" and reconnect.. Can someone help
[17:18] <glitsj16> Kartagis: `which` searches in your $PATH, so adjust that if you need to add to it
[17:18] <diehard> anyone tell me what to look for if i wanna make one of these IRC Server and Client.
[17:18] <taffthefish> Can someone assist? I am trying to load unbent into virtual box on my matchbook pro
[17:18] <compdoc> never heard of unbent
[17:18] <taffthefish> Got most of the way but when I try to run it I get a "kernel" warning
[17:18] <dondopa> Xubuntu off topic
[17:19] <dondopa> is stupid
[17:19] <taffthefish> unbuntu
[17:19] <ArGGu^^> usr13 I finally got fglrx to install, had to first install xorg package, fglrx has xserver-xorg-core as it's dependency, but it is not enough to it to be installed.
[17:19] <marjan> if someone wrote something i missed it....
[17:19] <taffthefish> it says I have the wrong CPU?
[17:19] <jmgk> hello ArGGu^^
[17:20] <marjan> is there a way to use android aps under linux natively or something
[17:20] <ArGGu^^> jmgk ?
[17:20] <Kartagis> glitsj16: echo $PATH and `which drush` output don't match
[17:20] <jmgk> hi
[17:20] <kostkon> marjan, http://www.webupd8.org/2013/09/cross-platform-android-x86-emulator.html
[17:20] <Kartagis> hrm
[17:21] <marjan> does it run faster than emulators under win
[17:21] <danivasel> ok no answers. Ill throw the second questions then. Is there anyone to sync ipod(7th generation) without installing a virtualbox
[17:21] <Kartagis> glitsj16: actually, they don't match when I first ssh in, but they do later
[17:21] <taffthefish> detected i686 CPU how do I fix this?
[17:21] <jmgk> hi
[17:21] <kostkon> marjan, no idea
[17:22] <marjan> ok thanks
[17:22] <glitsj16> Kartagis: if you just added a new binary folder to your $PATH it's normal that you need to re-login to get that activated
[17:22] <vmuser> what was the default terminal called?
[17:22] <Kartagis> glitsj16: I get that whenever I login
[17:23] <glitsj16> Kartagis: where do you have your PATH variable defined?
[17:23] <usr13> ArGGu^^: Ok, very good.
[17:23] <Kartagis> glitsj16: I guess drush autocomplete script executes `which drush` before .profile
[17:23] <usr13> ArGGu^^: Thanks for letting  us know.
[17:23] <diehard> im new to IRC
[17:23] <diehard> can someone help me where shud i go to ask question about python
[17:24] <vmuser> what was the default terminal called? the one that you have when you are not in graphical mode
[17:24] <usr13> diehard: So here is now it works.  You ask questions that directly relate to your issue(s).  Others try and give advice to the best abilities.
[17:24] <Kartagis> glitsj16: I think .profile, I'm not sure, let me check
[17:24] <Kartagis> vmuser: terminal
[17:24] <anonymous_> hello
[17:24] <glitsj16> Kartagis: not familiar with drush i'm afraid, but ~/.profile is a regular place for PATH, yeah, double-check
[17:24] <anonymous_> every one
[17:24] <kostkon> anonymous_, hi
[17:25] <vmuser> Kartagis, nope it had a specific name, I want to file a bug report and it had some reference
[17:25] <anonymous_> i provied uone ip adrress and username ande pass word to
[17:25] <usr13> diehard: /join #python
[17:25] <anonymous_> hack this ip
[17:25] <cordyceps> system->software-updater says I can upgrade to 13.10. I click upgrade. I get a summary of the new release and click ok, IIRC. It downloads the updater tool, then nothing. I'm still not updated.
[17:25] <DJones> !illegal | anonymous_
[17:25] <vmuser> Kartagis, since under terminal someone might understand gnome terminal or other emulator
[17:25] <anonymous_> any intrested in
[17:25] <uBUXUBu> do i have to jump thru hoops to install my wireless mouse in ubuntu 12.04?
[17:26] <onsight666> Hello folks, im having a little trouble with my ubuntu setup anyone free to assist?
[17:26] <uBUXUBu> tell us more
[17:26] <Kartagis> glitsj16: .bash_profilw
[17:26] <Kartagis> glitsj16: is this the wrong place?
[17:26] <uBUXUBu> onsight666, what kind of trouble?
[17:26] <glitsj16> Kartagis: the official doc on environment variables might be helpfull for your issue --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables .. some places are depracated it seems
[17:27] <onsight666> Well i installed ubuntu on my pc last night and it was running fine, now today when i powered up my pc it gives me a post error, problem is the post isn't there long enough for me to decipher whats wrond and make a more detailed post
[17:28] <uBUXUBu> well onsight666 when you downloaded the ubuntu file did you check the checksum?
[17:28] <usr13> onsight666: We really need some specific information about the error.
[17:29] <onsight666> i did check the checksum.
[17:29] <Jeeves_Moss> is there an easy way to send an e-mail from a webpage that logs information about the user who clicked a java "accept" button?  I need to be able to receive an e-mail every time someone cicks the "I agree" button, and have it log the date/time/computer name/IP addree, etc
[17:29] <onsight666> and usr13 its really hard to give specific info when my bios has no settings regarding post errors and i dont have long enough to read / take a photo of the error
[17:30] <onsight666> otherwise i WOULD give mode details
[17:30] <usr13> onsight666: Does it not completely boot up?  Or_______________?
[17:30] <cordyceps> onsight666: mebbe there's a way to go for a longer POST in BIOS. My PC does that.
[17:31] <usr13> onsight666: I'm afraid that the information you have given  us so far is not sufficient.
[17:31] <onsight666> it boots halfway then gives me an error then the screen goes black with a single _ at the top of the page
[17:31] <onsight666> Usr13: are you blind or just plain stupid?
[17:32] <cordyceps> system->software updater fizzles out; does not upgrade. ???
[17:32] <onsight666> usr13: i CANNOT give you more information if the post error disappears before i can semi read it / take a photo.. THEREFORE i cannot give you more info..
[17:32] <onsight666> and there is nothing in my bios / uefi regarding post errors and the lenght of time to display..
[17:33] <Laurenceb_> hi
[17:34] <Laurenceb_> how can i remove an unwanted device from /dev/  ?
[17:34] <DF3D2> im using xubuntu, the battery indicator in the taskbar seems to have dissapeared. it was there a minute ago.... I don't see an option for it in the applets
[17:34] <Laurenceb_> i used a udev rule to create a /dev entry for a usb device
[17:34] <usr13> onsight666: So here is now it works.  You ask questions that directly relate to your issue(s) or give specific information about your issue(s).  Others try and give advice to their best abilities.  Sometimes it is precise and a sure-fire remedy, (or work-around). Sometimes it is only a clue that might lead you in the right direction or just some  information that might be helpful.
[17:34] <Laurenceb_> but it is still there when the device is no longer present
[17:35] <cordyceps> onsight666: tried a so-called "diagnostic disc" eg rescuecd?
[17:35] <onsight666> usr13: i understand that, and i cannot give more information if i cannot get the post info.. now thats normally the point where someone says oh well i have a similar bios/uefi.. can you try this?
[17:36] <usr13> onsight666: Does it not completely boot up?  Or_______________?
[17:37] <usr13> onsight666: How long is the boot process?
[17:37] <onsight666> usr13: as i have already stated it boots.. gives me an error.. then goes to a black screen with a single white _ in the top left corner.
[17:37] <amireldor> I followed a guide to enable the compiz 'rotating cube' under 12.04 (I'm with Gnome-shell), but it won't initiate or rotate left/right with the keyboard. It also seems the desktop wall plugin is still working with ctrl+alt+up/down
[17:37] <onsight666> a few seconds.
[17:37] <DF3D2> im using xubuntu, the battery indicator in the taskbar seems to have dissapeared. it was there a minute ago.... I don't see an option for it in the applets
[17:38] <usr13> onsight666: (I'm going to assume you are getting past post, although that is not what you said.)  Hold down the shift key as it boots, you should get to the grub menu.
[17:39] <cordyceps> system->software-updater says I can upgrade to 13.10. I click upgrade. I get a summary of the new release and click ok, IIRC. It downloads the updater tool, then nothing. I'm still not updated.
[17:39] <usr13> onsight666: From there, you'll get boot options, one of which says something to the effect "recovery".
[17:39] <weedmic> Howdy!  I'm trying to setup a UPS using NUT (Network UPS Tools).  How do I start the user interface or what is it called?  I see 2 deamons running upsd and upsmon.
[17:39] <Poenikatu> Why does the focus policy not work in Gnome 3?
[17:40] <locoloco> onsight666: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[17:42] <onsight666> alright after 4 attempts to boot in recovery mode it booted
[17:42] <onsight666> now what ¬.¬
[17:42] <dondopa> Ubuntu is too hard
[17:43] <onsight666> usr13: ?
[17:43] <oleksandt> PRUVIT
[17:43] <oleksandt> LENIN!!!
[17:43] <usr13> !nomodeset | onsight666
[17:44] <oleksandt> LUSERu
[17:44] <usr13> onsight666:  Possible  ^^^ not for sure
[17:44] <oleksandt> dopomogitk
[17:44] <onsight666> ubottu: this sounds like it could be the cause as i just installed the AMD experimental drivers, opinions?
[17:45] <usr13> onsight666: But if the first session was ok, that is probably not it.  But now we know that the system boots up ok and it is more than likely a problem with the GUI.  You might try doing updates
[17:45] <usr13> onsight666: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:45] <glitsj16> oleksandt: lenin was gone long before ubuntu came about, do you have a ubuntu support issue?
[17:45] <usr13> onsight666: (If you haven't already.)
[17:45] <oleksandt> no
[17:46] <usr13> onsight666: So, try that first
[17:46] <onsight666> ausr13: alright so i booted in recovery mode, now i have a whole list of options and no terminal
[17:46] <usr13> onsight666: Oh, I see that you installed AMD experimental drivers?
[17:47] <usr13> onsight666: So what are the options?
[17:47] <onsight666> yeah the system prompted that i should install them for my graphics card, i did. turned off went to bed and when i booted today its not working :|
[17:47] <usr13> onsight666: (Can't remember of the top of my head.)
[17:48] <usr13> onsight666: Glad you told us. That is more than likely the problem.
[17:48] <onsight666> resume, clean, dpkg, failsafex, fsck, grub, network, root, system-summary.
[17:48] <usr13> onsight666: Is the system fully updated?
[17:48] <usr13> root
[17:48] <onsight666> i fully updated last night before bed, then installed the drivers i was promted to.
[17:48] <Ploppz> Is ubuntu for phone ready for use?
[17:49] <usr13> Ploppz: Sure it is.  Call me any time.
[17:49] <usr13> !phone | Ploppz
[17:50] <JaredForTheWin> usr13: Can you make phone calls with Ubuntu Touch (if you have a SIM card and a phone capable of calling), however?
[17:50] <usr13> onsight666: Choose root
[17:50] <Ploppz> thanks
[17:50] <onsight666> usr13: done
[17:51] <JaredForTheWin> Also, did you notice something in onsight666?
[17:51] <JaredForTheWin> You know..
[17:51] <JaredForTheWin> 666.
[17:51] <usr13> onsight666: ls -ltr /var/lib/dpkg/info/  #look at the times and names and see what package the AMD driver might be.
[17:51] <usr13> onsight666: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf    #Tell us what that says.
[17:51] <usr13> .. if antying
[17:52] <usr13> anything
[17:52] <JaredForTheWin> usr13: it will always have something in there, or else you have a corrupted xorg.conf
[17:52] <usr13> JaredForTheWin: Really?
[17:53] <onsight666> usr12: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11063 dec 8 16:50 fglrx-exerimental-13.list & -rw-r--r-- root root 1831 dec 8 16:50 fglrx-amdcccle-exerimental-13.list
[17:53] <JaredForTheWin> usr13: I have had numerous Ubuntu problems that included xorg.conf, and stopped it from booting.
[17:53] <onsight666> from the first command relating to the drivers
[17:53] <dondopa> ubottu is intelligent
[17:53] <usr13> JaredForTheWin: Yea, and I just delete it.
[17:54] <usr13> Right JaredForTheWin ?
[17:54] <JaredForTheWin> dondopa: he only has info programmed into the code of the bot, so..so much for intellgence
[17:55] <onsight666> usr13: second command returns string cannot access /ect/X11/xorg.conf: no such file or dir
[17:55] <zykotick9> onsight666: there is no xorg.conf by default - it must be generated
[17:55] <usr13> onsight666:  etc not ect
[17:55] <An0n_Z3r0> need some help with a error after Wubi install
[17:56] <usr13> !wubi | An0n_Z3r0
[17:56] <onsight666> alright fixed command and returned string /ect/X11/xorg.conf
[17:56] <onsight666> /etc/X11/xorg.conf*
[17:56] <onsight666> derp spelling is der -.-
[17:57] <onsight666> derp*
[17:57] <onsight666> fml
[17:57] <An0n_Z3r0> this is what i got after the install: https://plus.google.com/101590674577303230998/posts?partnerid=ogpy0
[17:57] <usr13> onsight666: So you might just delete it and uninstall fglrx-amdcccle-exerimental-13
[17:58] <onsight666> so what do i do next to get rid of it and start booting normally again?
[17:59] <usr13> onsight666: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo apt-get remove fglrx-amdcccle-exerimental-13
[17:59] <An0n_Z3r0> I've already uninstalled and redownloaded and reinstalled to get the same error
[17:59] <onsight666> usr13: first command returned string cannot remove <file>: read only file system.
[18:00] <usr13> onsight666: mount  | pastebinit
[18:00] <usr13> onsight666: #And send resulting URL
[18:01] <onsight666> step by step? linux idiot here.. xD
[18:01] <usr13> onsight666: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:02] <usr13> onsight666: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:02] <honestly> Hi, I'm running a custom kernel, and I need to compile linux-tools for it. where do I get the sources for linux-tools?
[18:02] <ankit123> jfgijiy
[18:03] <onsight666> Both return the same string.. rm: cannot remove '/etc/x11/xorg.conf': Read-only file system
[18:03] <JaredForTheWin> honestly: this is not ubuntu related, please put this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:03] <An0n_Z3r0_> I'm logged in now via my phone
[18:03] <usr13> onsight666: mount  | pastebinit   #Send resulting URL
[18:03] <honestly> JaredForTheWin: linux-tools is an ubuntu specific package, I'm pretty sure
[18:04] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> Hi, according to my understanding, this page only explains how to save a local list of repositories(Ubuntu file archives) available on the Internet....., right ?
[18:04] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline/Repository
[18:04] <onsight666> usr13: what your typing is pretty much looking like japanese to me.. please elaborate..
[18:05] <JaredForTheWin> honestly: it's a custom kernel, not a offical kernel from canonical; also, if linux-tools was ubuntu specific, it wouldn't be called linux-tools
[18:05] <usr13> onsight666: Issue command "mount | pastebinit" Hit Enter key.  Paste resulting URL here, (so we can see).
[18:06] <usr13> onsight666: Or just issue command "mount" and hit Enter key and see what it says about your filesystem(s).
[18:07] <usr13> onsight666: (See which one is ro instead of rw and let us know.)
[18:07] <onsight666> ran command returned string pastebinit is not installed, ran sudo apt-get install pastebinit returned strings w: not using locking for read only file /var/lib/dpkg/lock .. E: eunable to write to /var/cache/apt .. E; the package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[18:08] <usr13> onsight666: Just issue command "mount" and hit Enter key and see what it says about your filesystem(s). (See which one is ro instead of rw and let us know.
[18:08] <JaredForTheWin> onsight666: it's most likely trying to install to a location where it can't install applications
[18:09] <onsight666> gimme a sec
[18:10] <usr13> onsight666: You'll probably see a string something like " / type ext4 (ro,"
[18:10] <usr13> onsight666: ro as opposed to rw
[18:10] <usr13> onsight666: ro=read-only   rw=read-write
[18:11] <onsight666> usr13: http://i.imgur.com/5FiuvTf.jpg
[18:12] <An0n_Z3r0_> what I see when 'mount' rootfd on / type rootfs (rw)
[18:12] <An0n_Z3r0_> more there in burn d be typing for ever
[18:13] <An0n_Z3r0_> sorry for the spelling errors.  using my phone
[18:14] <onsight666> anon, i have tons of spelling errors 90% of the time and i use a keybaord xD
[18:14] <onsight666> ^ see XD
[18:14] <usr13> onsight666: grep  ro,  /proc/mounts
[18:17] <usr13> onsight666: What does ^^^^ say?
[18:17] <onsight666> usr13: returned string /dev/disk/by-uuid/f75f02bd-7f33-4a1b-bf87-bead7e313244 / ext4 ro,relatime,data=0rdered 0 0
[18:18] <onsight666> usr13: image if better - http://i.imgur.com/ZGUpPjC.jpg
[18:19] <An0n_Z3r0> https://plus.google.com/101590674577303230998/posts/iDBxrQSkvLR
[18:19] <onsight666> usr13: brb one sec
[18:19] <gordonjcp> An0n_Z3r0: you don't need to sudo, you're already root at that point
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> onsight666: why is / mounted as ro and why are you logged in as root?
[18:20] <usr13> onsight666: I suppose we should have booted the failsave option.
[18:21] <An0n_Z3r0> this what it went too after wubi install from reboot
[18:21] <physicist> Greetings. I just had restored my grub and kernel from live cd. Now, my ubuntu isn`t bootable. when I run `update-grub` from live cd, i see ` Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.12.3-031203-generic. How can I make it bootable again?
[18:21] <hitsujiTMO> onsight666: sorry, i'm chiming in late
[18:22] <usr13> onsight666:   mount -o rw,remount /
[18:22] <physicist> Can anybody help me?
[18:22] <usr13> onsight666: Try this first ^^^^
[18:23] <usr13> !grub | physicist
[18:23] <physicist> usr13: Isnt my problem.
[18:23] <satosh> hello. i installed ubuntu on an usb stick using usb-creator-gtk. when i try to boot though, i get "boot error" message. i have refind already installed on my macbook. any idea what i am doing wrong?
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> physicist: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:23] <An0n_Z3r0> OK it just went to next line without error
[18:23] <jhutchins> physicist: How did you make it unbootable in the first place?  What happens when you try to boot?
[18:23] <physicist> I lost an operating system.
[18:24] <usr13> onsight666: Do you get an error?  Or not...?
[18:24] <physicist> jhutchins: The system doesnt appear. I had to restore my kernel from live cd later I deleted it.
[18:25] <onsight666> usr13: im back
[18:25] <An0n_Z3r0> brb
[18:25] <usr13> onsight666:   mount -o rw,remount /
[18:25] <hitsujiTMO> physicist: how exactly did you "restore" it?
[18:25] <usr13> onsight666: Do you get an error?  Or not...?
[18:25] <physicist> jhutchins: I see.. Found Debian GNU/Linux (7.2) on /dev/sda9 - Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.12.3-031203-generic
[18:26] <onsight666> usr13: no error
[18:26] <physicist> hitsujiTMO: Following http://askubuntu.com/questions/28099/how-to-restore-a-system-after-accidentally
[18:26] <ubuntuaddicted> trying to run bonnie++ to run some tests on my new flashcache /home partition i setup. i found a article showing how to run bonnie++ but it's using /tmp to store temporary file and since my / partition only has around 6GB left the test fails since it can't write an 8GB file. It says to run the bonnie++ command using the same amount as your RAM, which i have 8GB. how would I run the test?
[18:26] <physicist> hitsujiTMO: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28099/how-to-restore-a-system-after-accidentally-removing-all-kernels
[18:26] <usr13> onsight666: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:27] <hitsujiTMO> physicist: is it a uefi system or bios system?
[18:27] <onsight666> usr13: ran command nothing happened
[18:27] <usr13> onsight666: apt-get remove fglrx-amdcccle-exerimental-13
[18:27] <usr13> onsight666: Is it working?
[18:27] <physicist> hitsujiTMO: Bios
[18:28] <onsight666> usr13: currently removing
[18:28] <usr13> okeydokey
[18:28] <onsight666> usr13: alright its removed.
[18:28] <usr13> reboot
[18:28] <onsight666> roger one moment
[18:29] <hitsujiTMO> physicist: are you on the live cd now?
[18:30] <hichem> sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:31] <physicist> hitsujiTMO: Yes. Ubuntu 12.04 live cd.
[18:31] <hitsujiTMO> physicist: can you pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[18:32] <physicist> sure.
[18:32] <usr13> onsight666: What video card do you have?
[18:32] <ryu_> bumblebee messed up my X config, now the Nvidia driver taints my kernel, I was able to finally get rid of bumblebee, but the driver isn't loaded and clicking additional drivers (reinstalling) ..  any ideas/tips?
[18:32] <milkinitah> cd ubuntu
[18:33] <usr13> onsight666: lspci   #What does it say about your video card?
[18:33] <physicist> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6542229/
[18:33] <onsight666> usr13: still getting the same error as before and my gfx card is an XFX r7750hd core edition
[18:33] <usr13> onsight666: So you have black screen with blinking cursor in upper left corner?
[18:34] <physicist> hitsujiTMO: /dev/sda6 is the lost system.
[18:34] <onsight666> usr13: managed to get a photo.. uploading
[18:34] <physicist> hitsujiTMO: Obviously its exist just doesn appear to but even had restored the kernel.
[18:35] <onsight666> usr13: http://i.imgur.com/bBGSZS9.jpg
[18:35] <hitsujiTMO> physicist: ok. whats in sda5, 9 and 10?
[18:35] <physicist> hitsujiTMO: the keyboard is a mess.
[18:35] <ttist25> Can anyone give me some help with an Ubuntu raid-1 array that is degraded or point me to a more appropriate channel?  Thanks!
[18:36] <physicist> hitsujiTMO: sda10 - gentoo / sda5 opensuse / sda9 - swap
[18:36] <hitsujiTMO> onsight666: you need to buy an new hard drive
[18:36] <usr13> onsight666: I/O error  Okay, now we have something.  In the recovery mode (or what ever it's called), we should have chosen fsck  (File System Check).  Looks like you have a problem with the hard drive.
[18:36] <usr13> onsight666: ... or the filesystem there-on
[18:36] <physicist> hitsujiTMO: No.. Actually, sda9 is a free space.
[18:37] <hitsujiTMO> physicist: but it found a linux image there ( given from you're previous error )
[18:37] <onsight666> seems highly unlikely though that i need a new HDD, it worked last night and it worked previously when i was using it in a 3.5 external caddy..
[18:37] <onsight666> usr13: alright booting into GRUB again
[18:38] <physicist> hitsujiTMO: Yes. I do not know what is there.
[18:38] <ryu_> bumblebee messed up my X config, now the Nvidia driver taints my kernel, I was able to finally get rid of bumblebee, but the driver isn't loaded and clicking additional drivers (reinstalling) ..  any ideas/tips?
[18:38] <usr13> onsight666: It said you have an I/O error in sector 2407920
[18:38] <ryu_> help!
[18:38] <jhutchins> onsight666: Are you running smartmontools?
[18:39] <onsight666> jhutchins: smartmontools?
[18:39] <hitsujiTMO> physicist: cd ~; mkdir install; sudo mount /dev/sda6 install;
[18:39] <physicist> hitsujiTMO: with all pontuations?
[18:40] <physicist> hitsujiTMO: 5 and 9 has filesystem.
[18:40] <hitsujiTMO> onsight666: you have io errors. that means that the drive cannot be read on certain physical sectors. you need to check the smart info for the drive as jhutchins suggested
[18:40] <onsight666> usr13: ran fsck from GRUB returned string /dev/sda1: 195273/30007296 files (0.2% non-contiguous), 2896273/120011776 blocks Finished please press enter
[18:40] <hitsujiTMO> physicist: exactly as i wrote it
[18:40] <physicist> hitsujiTMO: Ok, did.
[18:41] <adamu> Hiya
[18:41] <physicist> hitsujiTMO: An windows appeared.
[18:41] <physicist> window*
[18:41] <onsight666> hitsujiTMO: how do i do that? XD
[18:41] <hitsujiTMO> onsight666: don't run fsck until you've tested with smartmontools. running fsck on a physically damaged drive can cause further problems
[18:41] <usr13> onsight666: press enter
[18:41] <physicist> hitsujiTMO: unabl to resolve host ubuntu too.
[18:42] <hitsujiTMO> physicist: can you tell me the output of: ls -l /boot
[18:42] <hitsujiTMO> physicist: SORRY! can you tell me the output of: ls -l install/boot
[18:42] <jhutchins> onsight666: Basically there are two possible reasons for an I/O error:  Either there's a bad connection or the drive is failing.
[18:42] <usr13> onsight666: Did it run from the grub boot loader?
[18:43] <onsight666> usr13: yes it did
[18:43] <usr13> onsight666: As to your observation about the HDD working last night and previous to last night;  That is normal.  Hard drives normally work untill the fail. (Thats' the way it's always been for me...)
[18:43] <physicist> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6542300/
[18:44] <usr13> onsight666: Try booting again. (Maybe we will get lucky.)
[18:44] <onsight666> jhutchins: shall i check the connections / try a different sata port?
[18:44] <greenit> hi, i have a problem: i installed win7 followed by win8 on a notebook. Then i replaced win8 with ubuntu and now grub doesn't list win7 to boot. Can anyone help me to get win7 into the grub-menu plz?
[18:44] <hier> hi, does installing internet drivers for a pci card later fix the wifi not showing problem?
[18:44] <usr13> onsight666: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6542310/
[18:45] <Kroach> greenit: have you tried sudo update-grub?
[18:45] <greenit> Kroach, yeah, no effect
[18:45] <impradeepy> greenit:install boot repair
[18:46] <usr13> onsight666: As far as checking connection, (unplgging and plugging in again, or trying a different port), by all means try it, couldn't hurt.
[18:46] <greenit> impradeepy, ok, i'll report if it worked. :)
[18:46] <impradeepy> ok
[18:46] <impradeepy> greenit:sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update
[18:47] <physicist> hitsujiTMO: Discovred something?
[18:48] <onsight666> alright tried changing sata ports still getting I/O errors
[18:49] <onsight666> could it be possible that the OS install was corrupt or is it just the drive thats fucked? XD
[18:49] <usr13> onsight666: Watch the language.
[18:49] <usr13> onsight666: Try fsck again.
[18:49] <jhutchins> onsight666: drive.
[18:49] <onsight666> sorry xD alright ill boot to GRUB
[18:50] <physicist> hitsujiTMO: http://askubuntu.com/questions/62640/after-apt-get-autoremove-missing-operating-system?rq=1 - can it help?
[18:50] <usr13> onsight666: Sometimes it takes a couple passes
[18:50] <jhutchins> onsight666: To elaborate, problems with the OS or drivers rarely ever present this sort of error.
[18:51] <onsight666> jhutchins: rarely but still a possibility?
[18:51] <jhutchins> onsight666: Well, right up there with flying pigs.
[18:51] <Gandalf> What's the current Ubuntu stable version for desktop use?
[18:51] <Gandalf> Last I checked it was 12.1 any releases since then?
[18:52] <impradeepy> 12.04.3lts
[18:52] <Gandalf> wow, I was off lol
[18:52] <Gandalf> thanks imradeepy
[18:52] <impradeepy> gandalf:yw :)
[18:53] <onsight666> usr13: http://i.imgur.com/TJJtcZZ.jpg
[18:53] <zykotick9> Gandalf: impradeepy is giving you most recent LTS, not "stable" release, there been a couple of those since...
[18:54] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[18:55] <IcePee> ident icepee
[18:55] <impradeepy> zykotick9:what will you suggest?
[18:55] <Eli-5dce1> was this a full netsplit?
[18:55] <zykotick9> impradeepy: i'm not suggesting anything, but in ubuntu-terminology 12.10, 13.04 and 13.10 are "stable" releases
[18:56] <Sh1G3rU> nope probably only one node got disconected from the network
[18:57] <adamu> Are there multiple LTS releases out right now (12.04 and 13.04)?
[18:57] <satosh> how can i boot on a macbook from a usb stick which i created with usb-creator-gtk ?
[18:57] <adamu> Or is only 12.04 LTS
[18:57] <Eli-5dce1> seriously net split?
[18:57] <Sh1G3rU> !nestplit Eli-5dce1
[18:58] <Eli-5dce1> I'm not Eli-5dce1 am I
[18:58] <adamu> satosh, try this https://support.apple.com/kb/HT1948
[18:58] <impradeepy> zykotick9:12.04.3 lts cannonical will provides its support for 5years,13.04 will expire on jan 2014,12.10 is already outdated.13.10 will gets its support for 9months so stable version is 12.04 5years support ok first try to think before you speak ever again
[18:59] <jhutchins> adamu: only 12.04
[18:59] <adamu> jhutchins, okay thanks
[18:59] <Eli-5dce> This is a bad one
[18:59] <satosh> adamu:  im going to try it. later. reboot.
[19:00] <adamu> Eli-5dce, Just relax and enjoy the show
[19:00] <adamu> :P
[19:00] <Eli-5dce> lol
[19:00] <zykotick9> impradeepy: whatever...
[19:00] <john_doe_jr> I compiled some software after checking it out from svn but now when I do a dpkg -l | grep 'software_package_name' it doesn't show me the version of the software I installed…any idea how I can get this info?
[19:00] <Eli-5dce> But I have work I can't get done cause the person I am comunicating with is now frozen :(
[19:00] <jhutchins> impradeepy: There is a significant difference between "stable" and "officially lts".
[19:01] <technickul> Is anyone here familiar with uefi? I'm trying to delete my ubuntu instance but the boot option in uefi keeps coming back
[19:01] <adamu> john_doe_jr, It wouldn't show up in dpkg unless you compiled it created a debian package and installed it with dpkg if you used make && make install its not going to show up
[19:01] <k1l_> !attitude > impradeepy
[19:01] <adamu> technickul, Still having issues?
[19:02] <john_doe_jr> adamu: how would I get that info or do I just need to create a debian package and install it?
[19:02] <Eli-5dce> ubottu I thought was a bot :|
[19:02] <Eli-5dce> oh
[19:02] <technickul> adamu: I was able to get it installed last night but I had an extra item in the uefi menu that I wanted to get rid of. I attempt to delete it in the bios but it comes back
[19:02] <Eli-5dce> !#DCE_Project
[19:02] <jhutchins> john_doe_jr: Build a package out of the software you compiled and install that package.
[19:02] <adamu> john_doe_jr, I would run make uninstall then create a debian package and install it with the debian package
[19:02] <technickul> The research that I"ve done shows I need to delete ea file called grubx64.efi
[19:03] <john_doe_jr> adamu: alright thanks
[19:03] <impradeepy> i am not here to do any debates or arguments
[19:03] <technickul> located in \efi\ubuntu\ but I have no idea where that is
[19:03] <pvl1> i changed my path variables and added vars... is there i way to make this immedietly effective in a terminak
[19:03] <zykotick9> !checkinstall | john_doe_jr
[19:03] <adamu> technickul, Oh thats good.. sorry I can't help you there I primarily use lilo.. :/ (not familiar with grub, also don't use uefi.. thank god... )
[19:04] <greenit> impradeepy, ok, the boot-repair didn't work... what does the option "fix mbr" in the advanced menu do? do i have the option to boot to ubuntu after i do this?
[19:04] <zykotick9> john_doe_jr: fyi, checkinstall DEBs are NOT for distribution, local use only
[19:04] <technickul> adamu: unfortunately I have to use uefi since my windows 8 partition is uefi
[19:04] <john_doe_jr> zykotick9: well, I could just create a ppa right ?
[19:04] <technickul> I think this would have been done already if I wasn't using uefi lol
[19:04] <impradeepy> greenit:show me snaps
[19:04] <zykotick9> john_doe_jr: if you know how to package, sure.
[19:04] <bekks> john_doe_jr: not using checkinstall debs
[19:05] <adamu> technickul, Ahh.. why not just get rid of windows 8 :P
[19:05] <BluesKaj> technickul, use the legacy mode in the uefi/bios
[19:05] <john_doe_jr> alright
[19:05] <technickul> adamu: because I actually like it lol :P it's not bad
[19:05] <technickul> BluesKaj: I have and I can run live just fine but I want to install it
[19:05] <jhutchins> !uefi
[19:06] <technickul> BluesKaj: according to Ubuntu's docs if your windows install is uefi then ubuntu must be in uefi
[19:06] <usr13> technickul: Are you new to Linux?
[19:06] <technickul> jhutchins: thanks, I've looked it over quite a bit lol
[19:06] <greenit> impradeepy, http://imgur.com/2PBcWPt
[19:06] <technickul> usr13: sorta I've installed it plenty of times and use linux at work
[19:07] <pepee> install nodejs and npm, run sudo npm install websocket... and you'll see how it breaks
[19:07] <greenit> impradeepy, (sorry, it's in german)
[19:07] <pepee> quick workaruond: ln -s /usr/bin/nodejs /usr/bin/node
[19:07] <BluesKaj> technickul, if you want to keep w8 , yes , but I dumped it , then i was able to install kubuntu. You use a VM for w8 if you really want it
[19:08] <john_doe_jr> Does the check install mean that I don't need to create a debian with the compiled software?
[19:08] <usr13> technickul: Ok, well, if you were really new, I would have said that most of us that set up a dual-boot system tend to not use the MS_Windows side much anymore.
[19:08] <impradeepy> greenit:how can i read and understand it?do this insert live cd or usb then start boot-repair
[19:08] <adamu> usr13, Mine got really really outdated :P
[19:08] <zykotick9> john_doe_jr: check install will create a DEB from source code, that you can install on your system - makes life easier.  it's just NOT for giving to other people
[19:08] <technickul> realyl what I"m looking for is to get this silly extra ubuntu out of my efi boot options. I used efibootmgr to delete it but it keeps coming back
[19:08] <greenit> impradeepy, ok
[19:09] <usr13> adamu: I know, I've heard that from a number of others, (mine as well).
[19:09] <technickul> well that's interesting as I get more comfortable with linux that may end up happening
[19:09] <john_doe_jr> zykotick9: will it create the debian in the folder that i do the sudo checkinstall?
[19:09] <adamu> It was a very happy day when I overwrote windows with random data :)
[19:10] <zykotick9> john_doe_jr: yes (but please call them deb, not debian) ;)
[19:10] <technickul> I don't know how to locate this \efi\ubuntu\grubx64.efi file
[19:10] <john_doe_jr> zykotick9: alright deb from now on
[19:10] <adamu> eb
[19:10] <adamu> oops soory
[19:11] <adamu> technickul, Try /boot/grub
[19:11] <technickul> efibootmgr -v returns 3 entries. windows (\efi\microsoft\boot\bootmgfw.efi), and ubuntu (\efi\ubuntu\grux64) when I have deleted the ubuntu partition for now.
[19:11] <ididitagain> God is going to punish the world for its sin
[19:11] <ididitagain> turn to christ now
[19:11] <technickul> adamu: I will try that
[19:12] <technickul> adamu: in the terminal on the live usb?
[19:12] <adamu> technickul, Oh if your on a livecd then it would be something like /<mount directory>/boot/grub
[19:12] <technickul> adamu: this is where my noobness comes in I don't quite understand where to find the mount directory
[19:13] <ididitagain> !ops
[19:13] <adamu> technickul, try /media or /mnt
[19:13] <technickul> gotcah
[19:13] <ididitagain> !staff
[19:14] <technickul> adamu: I"m in thta directory
[19:14] <adamu> technickul, mnt or media?
[19:14] <john_doe_jr> zykotick9: hey, I've got this software named, 'ifolder3-enterprise-3.8.4.0.11056.1-1.1.x86_64.rpm'….does the 3.8.4.0…. correspond to the svn version number of something….b/c I would like to check out from svn that particualr version number….what exactly is those numbers indicating exactly?
[19:14] <technickul> adamu media
[19:14] <usr13> ididitagain: See my PM
[19:14] <technickul> medai/cdrom lol...
[19:14] <technickul> my laptop doesn't have a cdrom
[19:15] <adamu> technickul, lol in /mnt I have on for floppy disks..
[19:15] <technickul> adamu: people stil use those :P?
[19:15] <onsight666> alright anyone know of a linux program that can unlock harddrives?
[19:16] <An0n_Z3r0> had to rejoin...since I have root.  what do I need in terminal to type
[19:16] <adamu> technickul, lol some people...
[19:16] <technickul> adamu: haha! what am I looking for in side the boot folder?
[19:16] <adamu> technickul, grub directory
[19:16] <jhutchins> john_doe_jr: Sounds like proprietary software designed to work specifically for use on RedHat or SuSE.  Make a system backup before you attempt to install it.  If a debian package is available, it will probably only be directly from the company that creates it.
[19:16] <technickul> adamu: I'm in there
[19:16] <adamu> technickul, grub config should be in there I think
[19:17] <usr13> onsight666: Depends on what is locked.
[19:17] <jhutchins> onsight666: Hard drives can be locked?
[19:17] <technickul> adamu: looks like it
[19:17] <zykotick9> john_doe_jr: i wouldn't even attempt to use RPM files on ubuntu...
[19:17] <technickul> adamu: should I vim it?
[19:17] <usr13> jhutchins: ssd's can be locked
[19:17] <john_doe_jr> zykotick9: yup, I learned the hard way
[19:17] <adamu> technickul, I don't see why that would cause any problems
[19:18] <technickul> adamu: sorry Iwas wondering what I should do from here?
[19:18] <adamu> technickul, as long as you don't randomly edit parts out :/
[19:18] <usr13> jhutchins: too many S's  SD not ssd
[19:18] <adamu> technickul, I don't use grub2 so I don't know I would try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[19:18] <adamu> I like the new hybrid SSD HDD drives
[19:19] <onsight666> usr13: jhutchins: apparently so.. last time i recall using it was for my old windows machine.
[19:19] <jhutchins> usr13: You're talking about a physical lock switch, right?
[19:19] <technickul> adamu: I'm actually looking to delete the grubx64 file but I don't know where it's located because that's putting an entry into my bootloading options that shouldn't be there
[19:20] <usr13> onsight666: So what is telling you it's locked?
[19:20] <An0n_Z3r0> I'm confused to why after the wubi install that I get the Ubuntu load screen the errors to busybox shell
[19:20] <An0n_Z3r0> it was rrors to shell
[19:20] <jhutchins> onsight666: It's not part of the IDE/ATA/SATA standard.
[19:21] <minidino> I'm trying to install cups and encountering a series of problems starting with cp: cannot stat `/etc/cups/cupsd.conf.default': No such file or directory
[19:21] <adamu> technickul, try find /media/<mount point>/boot/grub -name '*grubx64*'
[19:21] <minidino> what shoud i possibly try?
[19:21] <An0n_Z3r0> what I see is (initramfs) with cursor
[19:22] <technickul> adamu: the file is on my laptop somewhere in the efi partition and not the usb :/
[19:22] <onsight666> jhutchins: when i tried to format it on my windows machine it said i cannot format since the drive is locked/encypted, i would need to enter a password on boot to be able to use/format
[19:22] <adamu> technickul, I would think it would be in that directory
[19:23] <jhutchins> onsight666: Ok, very unusual to use "locked" to refer to  an encrypted device, but it depends entirely on how it was encrypted, and decrypting it without the original password is not somethng you're likely to do.
[19:23] <usr13> onsight666: Sounds like a cmos option.
[19:23] <technickul> adamu: even in the live usb isn't plugged in I get still get the extra uefi item in my bootloading options
[19:23] <technickul> even if*
[19:23] <technickul> it's left over from ubuntu install
[19:25] <An0n_Z3r0> I see Alert! /dev/disk/by-uuid/A858910F5890DCFE does not exist.  Dropping to a shell.
[19:26] <sonicboom> Nice !
[19:26] <usr13> An0n_Z3r0: Sounds like one of your partitions has been deleted or somehow not accessable.  fdisk -l  #See what is there, (or not there as the case may be).
[19:27] <adamu> technickul, you could try chrooting into ubuntu install then doing grub-update or maybe its update-grub
[19:27] <zykotick9> adamu: technickul it's "sudo update-grub"
[19:29] <adamu> zykotick9, thank you
[19:29] <technickul> adamu: the install is gone from my drive I wiped the partition. That's why I'm trying to remove the entry from uefi. Then I'm going to attempt to install again
[19:29] <An0n_Z3r0> not found is what I get
[19:29] <adamu> technickul, oh
[19:30] <technickul> adamu: yup yup, that's why I'm confused and need to delete that left over grub file in my efi parititon
[19:30] <usr13> An0n_Z3r0: From ______________?
[19:30] <adamu> technickul, what if you just installed again then installed grub again like you did before and it would work?
[19:31] <technickul> adamu: wasn't sure didn't want to make things worse haha
[19:31] <adamu> technickul, well if you already deleted the install I don't see what you have to lose
[19:32] <technickul> adamu: just didn't want to mess up my new laptop that was very expensive :/
[19:32] <usr13> technickul: Unless you over-write the boot loader or re-configure, nothing will change.
[19:33] <technickul> I downloaded a program called easyuefi built for windows and I think I possibly deleted the entry from uefi! I'm going to restart and see what happens. SEriously though f$#k uefi
[19:33] <usr13> technickul: If you re-install Ubuntu, the boot-loader will be replaced.
[19:33] <An0n_Z3r0> from shell fdisk -1, /bin/sh: Fisk: not found
[19:33] <adamu> technickul, yeah ssds with hardware raid thats pretty bad ass IMO
[19:33] <An0n_Z3r0> fdisk: not found
[19:33] <usr13> An0n_Z3r0: Oh I see.  Well, you probably need a boot disk.
[19:34] <An0n_Z3r0> stupid phon bauto correct
[19:34] <usr13> An0n_Z3r0: Boot the Ubuntu install disk, (or any other Linux boot disk).
[19:34] <technickul> well that didn't work I"m going to try reinstalling like you guys suggested....
[19:35] <usr13> An0n_Z3r0: Or you can hold shift key as you boot and catch the recovery option, (or what ever its' called).
[19:35] <usr13> An0n_Z3r0: You'll find the option for fdisk
[19:35] <usr13> An0n_Z3r0: You'll find the option for fsck  (not fdisk).
[19:35] <adamu> lol
[19:36] <usr13> An0n_Z3r0: Or you can use the "root" option and use fdisk.
[19:36] <technickul> ok when it asks me installation type I'm going to click something else
[19:36] <technickul> because I want to tinstall it ona a particular partition that I've setup
[19:37] <adamu> technickul, I recommend separate partitions for / /home and a swap
[19:37] <technickul> I should format as ext4 right and what should the mount be just / correct?
[19:37] <[Gentoo]> adamu: why
[19:37] <linux> waha
[19:37] <technickul> adamu: I have separate partition for swap and the ubuntu install
[19:37] <technickul> I have a 18gb for install and 5 for swap is this fine?
[19:37] <adamu> [Gentoo], having a separate /home makes life easier when upgrading or changing distros
[19:38] <Wiz_KeeD> heeello guysa
[19:38] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone alive?
[19:38] <wafflejock> Wiz_KeeD: maybe
[19:38] <[Gentoo]> adamu: might as well back it up somewhere else
[19:38] <[Gentoo]> you'll just end up with a mismatch of config files
[19:38] <Wiz_KeeD> how baout anyone alive with knowledge regarding uefi and windows 8 and why the HELL doesn't ubuntu see the windows partition :((
[19:38] <technickul> mount point for ext4 should be / correct?
[19:38] <Wiz_KeeD> i'm close to crying
[19:39] <adamu> [Gentoo],  the purpose is not to backup but to make life easier when changing distros also if you have multiple installs you can use the same /home for multiple
[19:39] <technickul> lol Wiz_KeeD I'm struggling with it right now too
[19:39] <wafflejock> !uefi | Wiz_KeeD
[19:39] <wafflejock> sorry haven't had hands on experience can just point you to the bot
[19:39] <technickul> adamu: I see your point. I"m not at that level quite yet
[19:40] <adamu> technickul, Okay
[19:40] <technickul> adamu: mount point for ext4 should be / ?
[19:40] <[Gentoo]> technickul: yes
[19:41] <[Gentoo]> technickul: that is the main mount point
[19:41] <[Gentoo]> all the others will be on top of that
[19:41] <technickul> Just wanted to make sure
[19:41] <[Gentoo]> technickul: you have the / mountpoint. anything else is an extra
[19:41] <technickul> and the swap area doesn't belong to any particular one?
[19:41] <usr13> An0n_Z3r0: I think it is "recovery mode"
[19:41] <[Gentoo]> optional
[19:42] <technickul> any particular instance.  [Gentoo] ok that makes sense
[19:42] <Helloteam> Hello!  I've just installed Ubuntu 13.10 on my (rather old) laptop because I want to use it as a minecraft server. It has only 2GB of ram so I thought It'd be smart to turn off all processes I dont need. Any tips on how to accomplish that ?
[19:42] <technickul> This is where my mind just doesn't understand where to install the bootloader
[19:42] <adamu> I have always thought it would be funny if you swapped to an NFS share :P
[19:42] <[Gentoo]> Helloteam: use a minimal install maybe
[19:42] <wafflejock> Helloteam: you may want to go with server edition or "headless" so there's no GUI if you don't need it
[19:43] <adamu> stupid... but funny
[19:43] <[Gentoo]> Helloteam: as the plain version has so much bloat its prob not worth it
[19:43] <technickul> I have about 20 options on where I can install the boot leader
[19:43] <[Gentoo]> technickul: usually sda
[19:43] <Helloteam> mhh so you suggest a complete reinstall ?
[19:43] <[Gentoo]> but check
[19:43] <adamu> [Gentoo], he is using hardware raid
[19:44] <[Gentoo]> ok
[19:44] <technickul> What does sda mean?
[19:44] <wafflejock> Helloteam: if you're looking for minimal and installed desktop then yes
[19:44] <wafflejock> Helloteam: easier to start with less than try to strip away the right parts
[19:44] <adamu> technickul, /dev/sda is one drive /dev/sdb is second drive /dev/sdc is another drive and so on
[19:44] <zykotick9> technickul: first scsi drive (ide uses scsci emulation these days)
[19:45] <technickul> so for example I have something that has (striped) 512gb which is the raided drive which is what I want I think since it's raid?
[19:45] <wafflejock> Helloteam: if you want to make it really truly minimal you might want to look at Arch, I hear the docs are great and just a matter of learning to use pacman instead of apt-get
[19:45] <adamu> technickul, are all your options /dev/wrapper/<something>?
[19:46] <adamu> technickul, /dev/mapper/<something> (not wrapper)
[19:46] <Helloteam> Maybe I could just resize my current ubuntu partition and install Arch on the side... let me start up that partition manager
[19:46] <technickul> yes bbut I do have an option for /dev/sda and one of the dev/maappers has linux-device-mapper (striped) 512.1 gb)
[19:47] <technickul> I believe windows sits on the (striped) one which is why I think I want to install it there
[19:47] <wafflejock> technickul: yeah as adamu says sd is the "prefix", "a" for drive one, "b" for drive 2, sda0 means first drive first partition here's a nice write up on it http://www.everyjoe.com/2005/10/12/technology/explain-why-is-there-no-hda0-or-sda0/
[19:48] <technickul> looking at the devices in the menu the one with (striped) in it isn't tabbed on the gui and the rest sit tabbed under it
[19:49] <adamu> technickul, this might help not for ubuntu but still helpful https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installing_with_Fake_RAID
[19:49] <technickul> would it help if I took a picture of my screen?
[19:49] <adamu> technickul, Yeah probably
[19:51] <DF3D2> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM57786 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 01)
[19:51] <DF3D2> anyone know how I can get that working
[19:51] <buu> DF3D2: Yes, install drivers.
[19:51] <DF3D2> buu, right, which one though
[19:52] <adamu> DF3D2, This might be helpful (how nice of broadcom open source drivers :D)  http://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/downloaddrivers.php
[19:53] <technickul> adamu uploading now
[19:54] <adamu> technickul, okay sounds good
[19:54] <technickul> http://imgur.com/a/lLEpn
[19:54] <DF3D2> adamu, hmm seems that tg3 driver was alrdy in ubuntu, I mod probed it but nothing showed up in ifconfig
[19:54] <technickul> adamu: I know one of the times I tried dev/sda it failed
[19:55] <jhutchins> DF3D2: ifconfig -a
[19:55] <DF3D2> jhutchins, yeah, no eth0 is showing
[19:55] <DF3D2> only my wlan0 and lo0
[19:55] <wafflejock> DF3D2: lcpci -k
[19:55] <DF3D2> dmsg shows nothing
[19:55] <Wiz_KeeD> technickul, help me out brother what do yo know so far? what notebook do you have?
[19:55] <wafflejock> DF3D2: does that show the driver/hardware together?
[19:55] <technickul> adamu:  there are more listings than whatI show in the second image too lol so many to choose from :P
[19:55] <adamu> technickul, I am thinking Linux device-mapper
[19:56] <technickul> adamu:  great me too :)
[19:56] <jerknextdoor> In X when you maximize a window (double clicking title bar or the max button) and then re-minimize it, it remembers the size and position it was before.  Does anyone know what that's called?  I would like to futz around with it, but I can't figure out what it's called.
[19:56] <technickul> I'm going to try lol
[19:56] <jhutchins> DF3D2: What's the pciid?
[19:56] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: I have an asus ux301la
[19:56] <adamu> technickul, 1/20 chance I like those odds :P
[19:56] <technickul> it has raided ssds which make it more interesting lol
[19:56] <technickul> raided ssds and uefi -_- makes things a little chanelling when trying to install ubuntu
[19:56] <DF3D2> wafflejock, no it doesn't
[19:57] <wafflejock> jerknextdoor: what are you trying to do with it? I believe "Place" is the thing responsible for keeping track of window positions for restore and whatnot
[19:57] <Wiz_KeeD> technickul, I have asus as well
[19:57] <jhutchins> DF3D2: Did you get the firmware package too?
[19:57] <technickul> adamu:  the ext4 and swap was fine right?
[19:57] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: which model?
[19:57] <Wiz_KeeD> technickul, does you ubuntu detect you windows?
[19:57] <DF3D2> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM57786 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 01)
[19:57] <Wiz_KeeD> because mine DID and now it doesn't :(
[19:57] <Wiz_KeeD> idk why!
[19:57] <Wiz_KeeD> is it because of firmware update done from windows
[19:57] <DF3D2> jhutchins, the driver is 'tg3' I modprobed it but did nothing
[19:57] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: Yes mine detects windows
[19:58] <Wiz_KeeD> fuck man...how :(
[19:58] <technickul> if I tap esc while booting I get a boot options menu and then I can select windows
[19:58] <IdleOne> Wiz_KeeD: No swearing in here please
[19:58] <usr13> Wiz_KeeD: Watch the language
[19:58] <technickul> it shows the uefi boot menu
[19:58] <Wiz_KeeD> R501VB-S3116D
[19:58] <Wiz_KeeD> is my model technec
[19:58] <jerknextdoor> wafflejock: I do a lot of dev on this machine and I am constantly resizing windows to try different stuff, but occasionally it will remember one of the odd sizes that i resized it to and it seems to get stuck there so whenever i try to unmax it it goes back to the odd one and not the halfy i like...so I wanted to see why that was and see if i can extend it in a way that better suited my needs.
[19:58] <technickul> Try tapping esc while it's booting after completly powering machine off
[19:58] <DF3D2> jhutchins, wafflejock the readme file from the download on the broadcom site says to just use the tg3 packaed with a 3.x kernel if you are using 3.x kernel
[19:59] <technickul> adamu clicking install now :/ haha
[19:59] <adamu> technickul, okay good luck!
[19:59] <technickul> adamu: nvermind have to do username stuff
[19:59] <kevin__> Whats that REISUB recovery combination again?
[20:00] <wafflejock> jerknextdoor: I map all the tile commands to Ctrl+Alt+Numpad Key that makes sense.... so like Ctrl+Alt+4 tiles to the left half of the screen Ctrl+Alt+6 for the right side, you should be able to change this in CCSM settings
[20:00] <technickul> here goes nothing
[20:00] <adamu> technickul, this is my definition of living life on the edge :P
[20:00] <wafflejock> jerknextdoor: I'm using Kubuntu so there's a bug I had to use a work around script for (uses xbindkeys) to fix issues with the numpad, but don't really know any more details about that
[20:00] <Wiz_KeeD> can anyone offer any assistance with this? I've read all the articles there, ubuntu just doesn't see the windows partition
[20:01] <Wiz_KeeD> it just sees free space
[20:01] <technickul> ssds are so freaking fast lol install done
[20:01] <img> i just rebooted after installing ubuntu, is it normal to get a bunch of "13.10 has experienced and internal error."
[20:01] <technickul> adamu: I like the way you think and that's the way I live :)
[20:02] <adamu> technickul, lol
[20:02] <technickul> adamu ok so install worked
[20:02] <adamu> technickul, thats good
[20:02] <technickul> however I wasn't presented with a menu to select either windows or ubuntu
[20:02] <DF3D2> anyway im back
[20:03] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: shut down completely and immediately after hitting the power button to turn back on start taping esc it should give you a boot menu and windows should show up
[20:03] <wafflejock> DF3D2: so you get nothing back about what went wrong when trying to run modprobe to load the driver just silent as though all is well?
[20:03] <ace_striker> hello everyone morning..
[20:03] <DF3D2> wafflejock, ya silent
[20:03] <DF3D2> wafflejock, and dmsg shows nada
[20:03] <DF3D2> like nothing happened
[20:03] <ace_striker> hope everyone's fine
[20:03] <adamu> technickul, what happened did windows boot?
[20:04] <DF3D2> wafflejock, just but the driver from source and it works
[20:04] <Wiz_KeeD> technickul, windows does show up and it does boot, ubuntu just doesn't see it in the live cd
[20:04] <ace_striker> i am stuck on this problem for about 2 hours..regarding ssh
[20:04] <DF3D2> so something is up with the pre-packaged version
[20:04] <DF3D2> wafflejock, built*
[20:04] <DF3D2> let me actually go plug in a wire and see if it works to confirm
[20:04] <DF3D2> but it shows up in ifconfig now
[20:04] <jerknextdoor> wafflejock: that's a good idea, don't know why i hadn't thought of that.  that should solve most of it right there.
[20:04] <adamu> technickul, well.. I have got to go you may be better off running Ubuntu as your primary desktop and then running Windows 8 in a VM thats what I do on my laptop and it works fine
[20:05] <img> i got an inidcator-datetime-service error. whats this
[20:05] <ace_striker> so i have ssh into my remote server ..with help of foxproxy my browser is working fine...but my ubuntu application still connect to my local machine internet..
[20:06] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: just try it's the way uefi works I'll brb
[20:06] <ace_striker> so i did to change the internet route for ubuntu applications gsettings set org.gnome.system.proxy mode 'manual'
[20:06] <ace_striker> then my port number gsettings set org.gnome.system.proxy port 400
[20:06] <ace_striker> and then my ip address gsettings set org.gnome.system.proxy ip 192.168.1.1
[20:07] <ace_striker> but then i am not able to connect to internet..
[20:07] <Wiz_KeeD> technickul, try what? :(
[20:07] <DF3D2> wafflejock, yes it works now, :-D so everything on my laptop works with ubuntu  score
[20:07] <img> lucky DF3D2
[20:07] <ace_striker> so i may be breaking some connections...can anyone got a hint about the ip address i should use ..i already tried 127.0.0.1
[20:07] <ace_striker> thankx
[20:08] <DF3D2> img, pretty good considering it's a very new laptop. even the touch screen works
[20:08] <wafflejock> DF3D2: awesome glad to hear you got it sorted, so was just a matter of pluggin in
[20:08] <DF3D2> wafflejock, no it was a matter of building the krnel module from the source code on the broadcom site
[20:08] <wafflejock> ?
[20:08] <wafflejock> ah okay
[20:08] <DF3D2> the ubuntu packaged version is broken somehow
[20:08] <img> DF3D2, yeah man. Mine was a pain in the butt. Hopefully it works now that i think i fixed it
[20:08] <DF3D2> atleast for me
[20:08] <img> you got a GFX card DF3D2
[20:08] <img> ?
[20:08] <DF3D2> not on this laptop, it's just intel integrated
[20:08] <img> oh, nvidia is a headache
[20:09] <DF3D2> I have an nvidia on my other machine
[20:09] <DF3D2> img, doesnt nvidia auto-install now ?
[20:09] <DF3D2> i've never had issues with it
[20:09] <img> yeah. but before on 12.04 it was killing me
[20:09] <DF3D2> hmm seems my on screen display for changing the volume has stopped working now though odd.. was working earlier
[20:10] <img> i cant change screen brightness with my button anymore
[20:10] <img> not sure how to fix those
[20:10] <wafflejock> DF3D2: is the volume just stuck or no audio out? I ran into a problem recently where it defaults to my HDMI audio for some reason and I need to switch back after reboot if the HDMI is hooked up
[20:10] <Wiz_KeeD> When I use Rufus to install windows should I pick MBR partition scheme for BIOS or UEFI computers / MBR for uefi / or GPT for uefi?
[20:10] <DF3D2> wafflejock, idk the volme keys just aren't showing the osd like they were
[20:11] <wafflejock> DF3D2: ah k diff issue
[20:12] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone?
[20:12] <ace_striker> Wiz_KeeD: rufus ?
[20:13] <DF3D2> wafflejock, wait that might be my issue
[20:13] <DF3D2> was using a usb audio dac last night and hdmi at some point, now ive got no sound
[20:13] <ace_striker> Wiz_KeeD: you installing windows 8 ?
[20:14] <ace_striker> DF3D2: change it to analog output/duplex from pavu control
[20:14] <Wiz_KeeD> ace_striker, yes first windows 8.1 then ubuntu 12.04 lts
[20:14] <Wiz_KeeD> on a asus wit uefi enabled
[20:14] <DF3D2> ace_striker, it is :-\
[20:14] <wafflejock> yeah sorry don't have a real solution overally to it not switching back automatically in Kubuntu I right click the audio icon and go into setup to change it from HDMI to "regular stereo" and it works but reverts on reboot (not something I do too often anyhow) if you find a more permanent fix though please let me know
[20:15] <DF3D2> wow thats odd!
[20:15] <DF3D2> i changed it around back and forth in pavucontrol and it started working 10 secs later
[20:16] <wafflejock> ah fun audio strangness
[20:16] <rjnienaber> are there any command line tools that i can use to diagnose http connection latency ?
[20:16] <DF3D2> still no volume on screen thoug
[20:16] <DF3D2> isnt it xfce4-volumed for xubuntu?
[20:16] <wafflejock> rjnienaber: nmap ping ntop all might help
[20:17] <ace_striker> DF3D2: it worked for 10 sec later when ??
[20:17] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, The W8 factory install is still there?
[20:17] <DF3D2> ace_striker, it took 10 secs to start working
[20:17] <DF3D2> but ive got no on screen volume display
[20:17] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, no matter I can format the whole drive at any time, i've done some 20 times at least
[20:18] <Wiz_KeeD> technickul, it worked it did bring up the boot menu :D
[20:18] <ace_striker> DF3D2: "Got no on screen volume" ??
[20:18] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, Except that you have a gpt partition table, so if you do a msdos mbr install on windows ubuntu may not see the windows is all.
[20:18] <DF3D2> ace_striker,  where it shows ur volume when u press the buttons
[20:18] <DF3D2> on the laptop
[20:18] <wafflejock> ace_striker: yeah you know the OSD or overlay that shows up to show the current audio level when you change it using hardware buttons
[20:19] <DF3D2> xev see's me pressing keys and xfce4-volumed is running
[20:19] <DF3D2> odd
[20:19] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, can't make much sense of that, but at this point of desperation i'm willing to try ANYTHING, just guide me i'm listening to anything
[20:19] <ace_striker> ok..my bad..
[20:21] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, download this app and run just the create bootinfo summary it will give us some detail on the HD and install there, post the url generated. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[20:21] <Beldar> run from ubuntu
[20:23] <DF3D2> wafflejock, I guess I was hasty in saying everything works, my brightness keys show an osd when i hit them but the brightness never changes heh
[20:23] <DF3D2> so volume OSD / brightness control is not working atm.
[20:24] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, livecd
[20:24] <thearcherof17> Ji
[20:24] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, YOU have used this app before so just notice on the gui the bootinfo summary button.
[20:24] <wafflejock> DF3D2: yeah may want to try some XFCE specific channels or Xubuntu or something for those details I use XFCE on my AWS instance just to have a GUI but am not familiar with the details/parts
[20:24] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, Yeah the live cd.
[20:25] <impossible> how do i check for an app in terminal? it was something like get-cache?
[20:25] <impossible> im looking for apache open office
[20:25] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, I believe you ran it last time from the install, a live cd is used as well.
[20:25] <wafflejock> impossible: apt-cache search
[20:25] <Coryn|soberingUp> a wiener next to another wiener.. floppy wieners floppy wieners
[20:26] <k1l_> impossible: apt-cache search
[20:26] <wafflejock> impossible: I see libreoffice in the repo for 13.10 but not open office directly
[20:26] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, ok I will try from usb stick...
[20:26] <Wiz_KeeD> 1 sec
[20:26] <impossible> ok thanks wafflejock  k1l_
[20:27] <CountryfiedLinux> How do I add the Mate panel to LXDE?
[20:27] <Wiz_KeeD> what do I run in the live-cd then Beldar ? the command
[20:27] <jhutchins> impossible: aptitude search
[20:27] <jhutchins> impossible: aptitude search <package>
[20:28] <k1l_> jhutchins: aptitude is not preinstalled anymore. it had issues with multiarch.
[20:28] <DF3D2> wafflejock, I figured out how to do brightness manually
[20:29] <DF3D2>  /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[20:30] <impossible> DF3D2, whats that do
[20:30] <impossible> DF3D2, like the button?
[20:30] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, I'm here in the live-cd well...on the stick, now what?
[20:30] <DF3D2> impossible, it's a text file you can manually edit to set brightness
[20:30] <grussell> hello, I'm looking for some Ubuntu advice
[20:30] <DF3D2> since my buttons don't work impossible
[20:30] <DF3D2> they show an OSD but dont change the brightness
[20:30] <DF3D2> so im gonna edit them in the settings editor
[20:30] <impossible> DF3D2, mine dont either.
[20:30] <DF3D2> impossible, i might be able to fix it
[20:30] <impossible> DF3D2, letme know if you do
[20:30] <wafflejock> DF3D2: yeah use xev and xbindkeys
[20:31] <DF3D2> wafflejock, i can just edit the hotkey in settings editor in xfce i think
[20:31] <DF3D2> i have used xbind/xev b4 tho
[20:31] <wafflejock> yeah sounds good
[20:31] <grussell> Is running Ubuntu off a usb stick a good, permanent choice?
[20:31] <grussell> What are the bad sides to that?
[20:31] <zykotick9> grussell: slow
[20:32] <k1l_> grussell: bas speed and possible data loss
[20:32] <grussell> hmm
[20:32] <k1l_> and disk space
[20:32] <grussell> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 13.10, but after installation, I keep getting purple screen of death
[20:32] <grussell> I cannot boot into recovery
[20:33] <k1l_> !nomodeset | grussell
[20:33] <lin> hello
[20:33] <grussell> I even tried "nomodeset"
[20:33] <lin> does anyone here use pinguy?
[20:33] <grussell> man
[20:33] <grussell> let me read that
[20:33] <zykotick9> lin: it's not supported here
[20:34] <k1l_> lin pinguyOS got their own support
[20:34] <lin> no one is there
[20:34] <bazhang> #pinguyos lin
[20:34] <lin> i went to a bunch of different rooms
[20:34] <lin> pinguy is empty
[20:34] <lin> can someone meet me in pinguy
[20:34] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, Just follow the links instructions you have done this before on loading the app to it then open the app, run just the create bootinfo summary it will generate a url post it here. always save this when you run the app.
[20:34] <lin> someone who knows pinguy
[20:34] <Wiz_KeeD> this one?
[20:34] <Wiz_KeeD> !uefi
[20:35] <k1l_> lin then send a email to the project. pinguy is not supported in here
[20:35] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[20:35] <technickul> lol Wiz_KeeD I'm glad it brought up the boot menu I told you it would. I am now having the same problem as you where I don't ahve an option to select which OS to boot to
[20:36] <technickul> My laptop boots straight to ubuntu after installing it
[20:37] <alex12> so, im trying to install 13.10 on my desktop (with a 7950 video card) and upon bootup into the installation menus- a black screen appears, with a box, that clearly looks like a window but there is graphic corruption in the frame of the window box (little random colour squares)
[20:37] <alex12> otherwise everything is black
[20:37] <alex12> installing 12.10 has no issues...... but 13.04 is a nightmare
[20:37] <alex12> any clues/
[20:37] <alex12> ?
[20:37] <lin> can someone go to pinguyos room?
[20:37] <Beldar> alex12, Not without any details from you.
[20:38] <alex12> Beldar, shoot.
[20:38] <Beldar> !nomodeset | alex12
[20:38] <Beldar> alex12, Sorry missed the description.
[20:39] <alex12> yeah, its upon installation ... would i need to modify the bootup grub config(?) on the bootcd?
[20:39] <alex12> (its actually on a usb disk)
[20:39] <Wiz_KeeD> technec, that's just grub issue, my ubuntu does not see the windows partition
[20:39] <Henkipois> Can someone help me with an issue I'm having?
[20:39] <Wiz_KeeD> I cannot install them next to eachother
[20:39] <Beldar> alex12, Be sure to use nicks here read the link this can be run from a live or installed OS.
[20:40] <onsight666> usr13: you here dude?
[20:40] <Wiz_KeeD> I wouldn't have a problem having it boot directly into ubuntu and me choosing the windows forom the boot menu
[20:40] <alex12> Beldar, ah i see now
[20:40] <thearcherof17> exit4
[20:40] <thearcherof17> exit
[20:40] <technickul> if I'm not presented with a menu to choose which OS to boot too what is the best way to troubleshoot or what does that mean?
[20:41] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, would this fix ubuntu seeing the windows partition or what?
[20:42] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, No it generates a script used by many to see all the details needed on the HD that it would take many questions to answer, some of which some users just don't understand, it a diagnostic.
[20:43] <Ontani> Hi i'm trying to git clone the ubuntu-lucid kernel but i'm getting "access denied or repository not explorer": http://pastebin.com/vQ0VVDQd
[20:43] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, It will give the information needed to fix this however if fixable.
[20:43] <alex12> Beldar, thanks, nomodeset has done the trick
[20:43] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, ok I ran it and rebooted...now what?
[20:44] <Beldar> alex12, Cool, make sure you tick the install updates on the install, and be hooked to the web.
[20:44] <alex12> yeap, cheers
[20:45] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, I have a feeing you are not understanding my post to you, I twice sais to run a specific paortion of the app and post the url address, if you do not understand state this.
[20:45] <Beldar> feeling*
[20:45] <technickul> Beldar what is the link again I'd like to run it to I"m having same problem I think as wiz
[20:46] <technickul> can I run it within ubuntu?
[20:46] <technickul> the ubuntu install
[20:46] <DF3D2> :-(
[20:46] <Beldar> technickul, What is your issue?
[20:47] <technickul> Beldar: installed ubuntu but now just boots to unbuntu without giving me an option to select windows. I can still boot to windows if I select my boot device to windows loader since my computer is uefi
[20:47] <Guest49111> 13.10 really crashes often with Kernel Panic
[20:47] <dbe> Why does "sudo apt-get remove plymouth" prompt to remove every package I have installed? I am baffled
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> Dbe: depends what is defined to depend on plymouth
[20:48] <Beldar> technickul, Cool here is the app. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair  save the bootinfo summary url generated when running it.
[20:48] <zykotick9> dbe: over reaching metapackages is a big issue in ubuntu...
[20:48] <technickul> Beldar: so that cannot be done with ubuntu booted?
[20:49] <dbe> ActionParsnip: Well, yes, I get that, I just don't get what.. how, this, what, how is this dependency tree built?
[20:49] <Henkipois> Why does Ubuntu give me such bad internet connection? I disconnect from the internet at random once every couple of hours and it lasts for about 5 minutes. It's insanely bad if I run Teamspeak 3 as well.
[20:49] <dbe> zykotick9: plymouth can't be a metapackage, though, can it?
[20:49] <dbe> zykotick9: or is it part of one which it tries to uninstall?
[20:49] <zykotick9> dbe: no, it's just a part of one (or more likely "more")
[20:50] <Beldar> technickul, Take a look at the link, can be run from an installed ubuntu or live cd/usb
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> Henkipois: how do you connect to the web? Wifi? 3G? Ethernet?
[20:50] <technickul> Beldar: sorry, Thank you
[20:50] <circ-user-tti51> Hi all, im using VMM (GUI) to create some VM's.  I cant seem to find the "Snapshot" option? I've googled and found a command line method of creating a snapshot, but is there not an option in the GUI?
[20:50] <dbe> zykotick9: wow, okay. that's... cool.
[20:51] <dbe> Another question, why does "apt-cache search linux" give me a list of 2094 packages, many are just unrelated to my search?
[20:51] <Wiz_KeeD> I might have misunderstood
[20:51] <Wiz_KeeD> I will install windows once again then do that whole proccess
[20:51] <dbe> Is "apt-cache search package | grep package" a common command?
[20:51] <zykotick9> dbe: because they all contain the work "linux" somewhere in the package name or description
[20:51] <zykotick9> s/work/word/
[20:52] <dbe> zykotick9: not in the description given in the output, are there multiple descriptions?
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> Dbe: they have thebword linux in the description or package name, try using something less ambiguous. What were you expectibg to be found exactly?
[20:52] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, You will save a al ot of trouble if you can get that script run for us, use nicks on every post as well.
[20:52] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: I don't think you need to reinstall windows
[20:52] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, I already ran it once and restart, should I run it again and post the link?
[20:53] <dbe> ActionParsnip: the linux kernel. Though it's mostly an example.
[20:53] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, always use a nick when addressing someone here is all, you can use the tab key to complete nicks. ;)
[20:53] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, yes I know sry...
[20:53] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, Yeah run just the create bootinfo summary not the repair.
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> Dbe: apt-cache search kernel ,may be closer. No?
[20:53] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, I am now installing ubuntu on the whole system which wiped out everything and it said something about a gmsth partition
[20:53] <Wiz_KeeD> I can run that bootinfo in the installed ubuntu right Beldar ?
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> Dbe: the package name ubuntu uses is linux-image
[20:54] <dbe> Like... "apt-cache search kernel" returns "xenomai-doc - Xenomai documentation". It's no... kernel.. there.
[20:54] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, Yes on the install
[20:54] <technickul> Beldar : I have received the "EFI detected. please check options" should I worry about this?
[20:54] <dbe> ActionParsnip: thank you
[20:54] <Wiz_KeeD> ok Beldar let me finish installing ubuntu, boot it and then will get back to you
[20:54] <Beldar> technickul, this when running the repair?
[20:55] <technickul> trying to open it I belive I ran this comand from the website you gave "sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && (boot-repair &)"
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> Dbe: have you seen what xenomai is?
[20:55] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, If windows is not installed the the live enviroment is better so that we get windows then ubuntu installed.
[20:56] <technickul> Beldar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6542906
[20:56] <dbe> ActionParsnip: I have no idea what xenomai is, but I mean, what data is apt-cache searching through to find packages? It has to be more then name and description
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> Dbe: Xenomai is a real-time development framework cooperating with the Linux kernel
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> Dbe: so the result is not non-sensical
[20:57] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, ok will install windows first then, can you please help me in the rufus should I pick MRB for bios/uefi , MRB for uefi, or GPT for uefi?
[20:57] <dbe> ActionParsnip: No, I'm sure every result it gives are 'relevant', sometimes less so, but I'm wondering how it can include so many packages on every search I make
[20:58] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: according to the ubuntu docs and wht I've read if you install windows as uefi then you must install ubuntu in uefi mode and vice versa
[20:58] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, I would like to see just the bootinfo summary before you do anything if possible.
[20:58] <circ-user-tti51> Hi all, im using VMM (GUI) to create some VM's.  I cant seem to find the "Snapshot" option? I've googled and found a command line method of creating a snapshot, but is there not an option in the GUI?
[20:59] <technickul> Beldar: did you get my paste?
[20:59] <Henkipois> ActionParsnip,  I connect via WiFi
[20:59] <Henkipois> It's the only issue I've had with Ubuntu so far and I can't seem to figure it out.
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> Dbe: you are searching for a string in the text. A little researchbthen apt-cache search will  give better result. Could also pipe to grep for better results
[20:59] <Beldar> technickul, I'm not really up on uefi in general, I see one helper here who is in general at the moment, there is a thread at the ubuntu forums by the developer of the bootrepair can you post that script here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> Henkipois: are there lots of networks on the same channel as yours?
[21:00] <Henkipois> What do you mean? We only use one network in the household if that's what you mean
[21:00] <technickul> Beldar: yup I'll do that. Everything is working for me I just don't get an option to choose an OS when my laptop boots :/
[21:01] <dbe> ActionParsnip: apt-cache search png gives me 286 results, including a "musical score editor" and a "router platform" and a "routing demon". Do you think these are relevant results to that search? I'm sure many of these image manipulation programs has support for PNG, but that's not really what I'm searching for
[21:01] <impossible> DF3D2, hey
[21:01] <DF3D2> hi impossible
[21:01] <impossible> how did you turn down brightness
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> Henkipois: if you run: sudo iwlist scan | egrep -i 'chan|ssid'
[21:01] <impossible> lol its hurting my eyes
[21:01] <dbe> ActionParsnip: I'm not mad,   I just don't get what data it's searching through
[21:01] <DF3D2> for me I have to manually edit a file
[21:01] <DF3D2> no programs work
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> Henkipois: do you see lots of networks on the same channel
[21:01] <impossible> wow!
[21:01] <[Gentoo]> dbe: probably literally anything containing the letters png
[21:01] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, bootinfo summary right?
[21:01] <[Gentoo]> descriptions and all
[21:02] <Beldar> technickul, exactly, there are several on the ubuntu forums focused on theses issue, if you want windows in the grub menu they can help.
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> Dbe: it searches name and theblong and short descriptions
[21:02] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, Yeah.
[21:02] <DF3D2>  /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[21:02] <DF3D2> my max is 976
[21:02] <Henkipois> ActionParsnip, I'm actually running Xubuntu now because it drove me so crazy but I'm either going back to Ubuntu 13.10 or choosing something else which is why I came here to see if there was a quick solution or something. I'm having too many screen tearing issues with Xubuntu so I can't use this either.
[21:02] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, here we are: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6542925/ thanks a lot for taking interest and time in this, i really appreciate it.It's been two days now
[21:02] <Pessimist> dbe, apt-cache search basically does grep on package descriptions so that's why you usually get a lot of irrelevant packages or none at all. There are alternatives to apt-cache search: http://debian-handbook.info/browse/wheezy/sect.apt-cache.html
[21:03] <dbe> Oh so there are two descriptions, a long and a short one. That is great.
[21:03] <DF3D2> impossible, im gonna try to write a script to fix it later
[21:03] <dbe> [Gentoo]: I envy you having a sane package manager
[21:03] <impossible> DF3D2, sounds good. did you try xdotool and compiz?
[21:03] <[Gentoo]> has apt-cache search got no option to search package names only?
[21:03] <DF3D2> impossible, nah i tried xbacklight tho
[21:03] <[Gentoo]> if not thats stupid
[21:03] <impossible> hm. ill try this then
[21:03] <dbe> [Gentoo]: not that I have found
[21:03] <DF3D2> anyway i gtg run out and pick up food afk
[21:03] <impossible> alrighty
[21:04] <dbe> [Gentoo]: nothing in the man page
[21:04] <Pessimist> [Gentoo], --names-only
[21:04] <[Gentoo]> ah ok
[21:04] <[Gentoo]> was gona say
[21:04] <dbe> oh great
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> Henkipois: that doesnt answer my question. The DE is irrelevant  when it comes to drivers etc
[21:04] <Pessimist> dbe, you sure? " If --full is given then output identical to show is produced for each matched package, and if --names-only is given then the long description is not searched, only the package name is."
[21:05] <Henkipois> ActionParsnip, I see a bunch of networks. 6 channels
[21:05] <Henkipois> I mean not 6 channels, just 6 networks
[21:05] <mrbeard> Hi guys :D
[21:06] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, as Christopher Walken would say...where do we go from here?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Henkipois: ok, what channels are they on?
[21:06] <b0bbi10> hi
[21:06] <b0bbi10> I have a TrueCrypt encrypted external HDD, when I plug it in a Linux system, nothing happens. I need to decrypt (mount) it before the mounted and unencrypted drive appears in my system. then I dismount it, there isn't a drive anymore which I can select. is it safe to unplug the external HDD at this time?
[21:06] <Henkipois> There's 3 on channel 6,  1 on channel 1 and 2 on channel 1
[21:06] <Henkipois> 2 on channel 11*
[21:06] <b0bbi10> or do I have to unmount it again?
[21:06] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, No problem, I would advise you to hang tight and use the developers thread on the ubuntu forum as well, this is not a huge problem but a technical install that is attached to specific steps to get you dual booted is all, post this script on this thread. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Henkipois: which is yours on?
[21:06] <Henkipois> channel 6
[21:06] <[Gentoo]> b0bbi10: the drive should appear,
[21:06] <[Gentoo]> obviously encrypted, but the /dev etc
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Henkipois: triwd switching to channel 1
[21:07] <Henkipois> How do I do that?
[21:07] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, login to the forum and post the link you say?
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Henkipois: set it in your router
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Henkipois: what wifi driver are you using?
[21:07] <b0bbi10> [Gentoo], on the left handside in my file manager, it doesn't appear
[21:07] <Henkipois> I have no idea
[21:07] <Henkipois> I'm new to linux
[21:07] <[Gentoo]> b0bbi10: sudo fdisk -l
[21:08] <[Gentoo]> b0bbi10: no idea about the FM, its not a reliable way of checking
[21:08] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, Yes to that thread, many will try to help here but this is kinda a complex fix.
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> Henkipois: sobwait, you are bad mouthing ubuntu network drivers but you dont seem to know anything aboutbwhat you are using or ANYTHING about your own setup....
[21:08] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, how in hell did it work before? I installed them next to each other and I formatted then again thinking it wasn't the right way...now it won't work anymore
[21:08] <Wiz_KeeD> what could have changed...
[21:09] <Henkipois> I wasn't badmouthing anything?...
[21:09] <guidemario> Hi there. I'm trying to install ubuntu and I'm getting a GPT signature/table on the installation ... follow the screen: http://s8.postimg.org/riisjvvnp/Photo_Dec_08_6_58_28_PM.jpg
[21:09] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, would deleting all the partitions reset everything to default?
[21:09] <guidemario> any ideas on how to proceed?
[21:10] <[Gentoo]> guidemario: has the hdd got anything on it you want?
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Henkipois: so you didnt say "gives such bad internet connection" ...no?
[21:10] <[Gentoo]> if not just redo it
[21:10] <b0bbi10> [Gentoo], http://pastebin.com/6YN8qpf6 it's probably the last entry (320 GB)
[21:10] <guidemario> no, i have windows 7 but i want to erase it all and just use ubuntu
[21:10] <[Gentoo]> on gparted, gdisk whatever
[21:10] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, What your not understanding is that the factory install of W8 is a whole different partition table and partitions. Also this is a uefi computer, so the whole thing is different than what you have dealt with in the past with msdos standard partitioning is all.
[21:10] <[Gentoo]> guidemario: create a new partition table with gparted
[21:11] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, same notebook...yesterday
[21:11] <Henkipois> Well I keep disconnecting from the internet and that specific issue has only happened on Ubuntu which is why I'm in the support channel ActionParsnip . I didn't know I was dealing with such short fused easily offended people. It was a problem and request, not a complaint.
[21:11] <guidemario> can I do this with the live ubuntu? i just have windows 7 installed
[21:11] <[Gentoo]> guidemario: yes
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> Henkipois: basically you have the default setup and have made zero effort to make things better. If you had you would know all the things I am asking you as they would be part of your investigation
[21:11] <guidemario> ok ... i'm not familiar with gparted...I just create a new one? i mean ... what if it asks for ntfs, fat, etc....?
[21:12] <[Gentoo]> at the top bar you can choose to make a new partition table
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> Henkipois: not short fused, just calling you out when you say you didnt say something when you clearly did.
[21:12] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, Sure but in your want to fix a problem you had with 2 windows notations in grub, you have made some mistakes leaving you where you are at.
[21:12] <Henkipois> Google didn't help me at all, but now I see how awful Ubuntu's support IRC is. I'll be sure to go to 4chan where even the neckbeards help me more ActionParsnip
[21:12] <guidemario> ok I'll try ... if I don't succeed, I'll be back here using the live ubuntu, thanks so far
[21:13] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, maybe i'm not understanding this well, but deleting everything on the hard-drive doesn't "reset to default" so to speak to bring me in the exact point before I attempted to install anything?
[21:13] <[Gentoo]> b0bbi10: try from cli (as normal user) truecrypt --auto-mount=devices
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> Funny when people say they didnt say something then when you call them out they get upset and bail
[21:13] <[Gentoo]> b0bbi10: should appear in /media
[21:13] <[Gentoo]> truecrypt1
[21:14] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, yes, if you know how to install W8 with everything in the bios set correctly and install correctly, which to be honest I am not definitively sure of.
[21:14] <Wiz_KeeD> I see Beldar, okay thank you!
[21:14] <b0bbi10> [Gentoo], you probably misunderstood my question. I dismounted the drive in TrueCrypt already. now my question is if I have to unmount it via the system again before unplugging
[21:14] <Wiz_KeeD> very much
[21:14] <Wiz_KeeD> You have been most kind and patient
[21:15] <An0n_Z3r0> Ok I'm back.  I've just dropped the Wubi install way and going to install via usb.  anything I need to know before I try the usb boot route?
[21:15] <Vedrit> Hey, is iceroot or usr13 on?
[21:15] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, You have had your cart before the horse so far is my basic nice way of saying this. ;)
[21:15] <[Gentoo]> b0bbi10: ah, you should be ok
[21:15] <b0bbi10> [Gentoo], ah ok, thanks
[21:16] <An0n_Z3r0> I've come to the conclusion that the Wubi installer just isn't mainstream ready yet with the issues i got after trying twice.
[21:16] <bonhoeffer> i have a usb key i made on my mac -- i'm trying to boot get an orange screen, but it ends up in initramfs
[21:16] <[Gentoo]> b0bbi10: if you dismounted it with truecrypt and its an encrypted drive / partition, it shouldnt be mounted elsewhere anyway
[21:16] <b0bbi10> allow me one off-topic question [Gentoo]: don't you think your nick is inappropriate in here or are you in the wrong channel? hehe
[21:16] <b0bbi10> [Gentoo], I see
[21:17] <technickul> Beldar: I never said thank you. So thank you very much!
[21:17] <[Gentoo]> b0bbi10: nah ive had this nick for ages
[21:17] <technickul> Also [Gentoo] thank you as well for your input earlier!
[21:17] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, If it helps your not the only one having problems in this area, I have seen quite similar mistake sets in others, it is not an easy situation altogether for everone is all.
[21:17] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, I had absolutely NO idea how complicated this UEFI setup can be...didn't even know about uefi, just saw the notebook, thought it was really nice, cool specs and went for it...boy was I in for a ride
[21:18] <Beldar> technickul, No problem, there are only a couple of helpers here who really know this uefi dual boot stuff, so just be aware of that.
[21:18] <Wiz_KeeD> this looks VERY similar to my sitiuation Beldar: http://askubuntu.com/questions/244329/how-to-install-linux-on-a-computer-with-gpt
[21:18] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: I posted on the forums you might also want to do the same.
[21:18] <bonhoeffer> maybe i have a bad bad superblock
[21:18] <An0n_Z3r0> my nick??? ah come on...lol
[21:18] <technickul> Beldar: yea I didn't realize this was so different actually until last night and today :/
[21:18] <Wiz_KeeD> technickul, any results?
[21:18] <technickul> Beldar: I look forward to helping people with my same issue once I get it fied
[21:18] <bonhoeffer> http://oi43.tinypic.com/zvm1u.jpg <-- my original error
[21:18] <Wiz_KeeD> uhm...are they any administrators here?
[21:18] <Wiz_KeeD> ops?
[21:18] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: waiting for response
[21:19] <bonhoeffer> but i put in a new hard drive
[21:19] <Wiz_KeeD> usr13, I asume you might be since you told me to watch for language?
[21:19] <bonhoeffer> i would love to boot from my usb key -- is the superblock potentially messed up in my usb drive
[21:19] <bonhoeffer> any thoughts appreciated
[21:20] <bonhoeffer> exit from initramfs gives me a kernel panic
[21:20] <boggle> Issue with key-mapping on new keyboard. Any advice would be greatly appreciated: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=QUT0hXG1
[21:20] <Wiz_KeeD> channel operators pls?
[21:20] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, You are correct there, if you had windows installed and was not seeing it I would send you to the fixparts link, however you just have the windows boot partition as of now, with the windows boot in the mbr. So a lot the same but different in other ways.
[21:21] <Wiz_KeeD> technickul, thanks a lot for the esc boot options thing :D i don't have to rattle in bios every time like an idiot
[21:21] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: no problem :)
[21:21] <technickul> most laptops have that now a days
[21:21] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, I will try to format again delete all the paritions and install windows 8 once again, though something must be changed since I'm doing the same thing, only this time will use technickul's advice and will boot the stick in uefi mode and install windows in uefi mode as well as ubuntu
[21:22] <Wiz_KeeD> see if that makes a difference
[21:22] <adamu> Hiya
[21:22] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, Sure.
[21:22] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, are you a chan operator
[21:22] <Wiz_KeeD> ?
[21:22] <adamu> !ops
[21:22] <Wiz_KeeD> nice one adamu
[21:22] <adamu> Wiz_KeeD, lol
[21:23] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, nope just a helper and more of a obsessed user not an IT person.
[21:23] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: checkout section case when ubuntu must be installed in uefi mode https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[21:23] <Wiz_KeeD> well anyone from that list could please ban troika? I am only in ubuntu chan and I got a pm from him telling me there's a live show online with what appears to be of homosexual content
[21:23] <Wiz_KeeD> I probably know that inside out technickul
[21:23] <k1l_> adam_: please dont misuse the trigger.
[21:24] <[Gentoo]> Wiz_KeeD: lol you noob
[21:24] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, Report them to ##freenode or #ubuntu-ops
[21:24] <technickul> haha just sayus id w8 is uefi then ubuntu should be
[21:24] <Wiz_KeeD> he was fast
[21:24] <Wiz_KeeD> technickul, yup
[21:24] <technickul> :)
[21:25] <adamu> Beldar, IMO obsessed user  > Average IT Person
[21:25] <Wiz_KeeD> I would also like the idea of having ubuntu boot automatically and I could switch by clicking escape and picking a windows bootloader
[21:25] <Wiz_KeeD> that would be really nice
[21:25] <Wiz_KeeD> instead of having grub
[21:26] <adamu> Wiz_KeeD, You might like this then? http://gag.sourceforge.net/
[21:26] <Beldar> adamu, Heh, I'm in grad school nothing related except I write papers.
[21:27] <Wiz_KeeD> adamu, meaning you can call it any time?
[21:27] <adamu> Beldar, lol
[21:28] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, I would avoid any 3rd party boot loaders to be honest.
[21:28] <Wiz_KeeD> yeah doesn't sound like a good idea in general tbh though i have no tehcnical arguments behind that
[21:28] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, the bootloader and all that is all stored on the hard-drive right? I have no risks of having remaining partitions from previous installs?
[21:28] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, You had a working setup to begin with, you were just unhappy with the dual windows entries in the grub menu.
[21:29] <juniour> hi there
[21:29] <adamu> I've always though it would be fun to write my own bootloader
[21:29] <Gandalf> How does someone write a bootloader anyway? It's basically just a redirect from the first bits on a drive to a different place that then executes the commands necessary to choose which boot files to use when continuing, right? Or am I missing something?
[21:29] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, yeah which could have been adjusted from grub and I woul dbe setting sail but noo...i like the whips and pains
[21:29] <juniour> is any thing similar in ubuntu like oolydbg
[21:29] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, YOu now have the windows boot in the mbr, not where it should be for a uefi install.
[21:30] <adamu> Gandalf, Basically have to write it purely in assembly since you have to have a flat binary or something like that.. :/
[21:30] <[Gentoo]> juniour: http://freecode.com/projects/edebugger
[21:30] <Wiz_KeeD> whereshould it be Beldar ?
[21:30] <adamu> Gandalf, instead of using system calls you communicate directly with the bios
[21:30] <Wiz_KeeD> gpt?
[21:30] <Gandalf> adamu, what instruction set does that use?
[21:30] <Gandalf> If it's bios communication, it wouldn't be full x86, right?
[21:31] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, It would be in the HD itself, but here is where I'm not exactly where or how to fix this, if it was a standard msdos using the nbr we would be done.
[21:31] <Beldar> mbr*
[21:31] <adamu> Gandalf, Your calling the bios using x86 assembly
[21:31] <Gandalf> Ah
[21:31] <adamu> Gandalf, Kind of like using system calls with assembly on linux
[21:31] <Gandalf> right right
[21:31] <Wiz_KeeD> I still don't know how it worked the first time...damn! :((
[21:32] <adamu> Gandalf, I read a few papers awhile back on writing boot loaders but its been awhile.. :/
[21:32] <Wiz_KeeD> I just spent a bit more time configuring windows and adding some windows drivers and etc
[21:32] <Wiz_KeeD> ...
[21:32] <Wiz_KeeD> that's the whole differece
[21:32] <Gandalf> So if I were so inclined, I could look up x86 instructions, and dd the raw bits out to the proper location on a drive for the redirection, then I could have a bootloader I scripted elsewhere on the drive be executed?
[21:32] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, I would use that ubuntu forums link, not only will they help you get it setup but explain anything you don't understand, so that in the end you are set.
[21:32] <impossible> what do i use to install windows 7 inside unbutu
[21:32] <adamu> Gandalf, I have no idea to be honest :/
[21:32] <Gandalf> I want to write a bootloader :D For fun :D
[21:32] <Beldar> impossible, a virtual machine.
[21:32] <Wiz_KeeD> right
[21:33] <impossible> Beldar, from oracle?
[21:33] <john_doe_jr> Any body have an idea why I can't use pushd command in my bash sell?
[21:33] <Beldar> impossible, Yes virtualbox is nice, and there is a #vbox channel if needed.
[21:34] <adamu> Gandalf, Yeah I'll have a quick look in my linux kernel book and see if I can't find any useful information for you :/
[21:34] <SkyWay> how can i get a free psybnc guys?
[21:34] <Guest49111> Any recommendations for a good Hex Editor?
[21:34] <Gandalf> you have a book dedicatd to kernel stuff?!?
[21:34] <Gandalf> :D
[21:34] <Gandalf> That would be so cool
[21:35] <Beldar> impossible, I will say also that be sure you have a legit W7 download, don't use anything else.
[21:35] <Guest49111> Linux From Scratch - You can download it for free
[21:35] <adamu> Gandalf, Yeah hoping to get another one for Christmas :P
[21:35] <[Gentoo]> Guest49111: hexedit
[21:35] <adamu> Gandalf, This is the book I've got right now http://www.amazon.com/Professional-Kernel-Architecture-Wolfgang-Mauerer/dp/0470343435
[21:36] <Gandalf> I have a life goal of achieving RHCSA or RHCE one day... I hope to know how to code a bootloader and compile a sweet minimal kernel.
[21:36] <adamu> Gandalf, my dream certs are OSCP and OSCE and CISSP :/
[21:37] <Gandalf> I wish you the best
[21:37] <adamu> Gandalf, haha you too
[21:37] <Gandalf> I wouldn't mind grabbing CEH or CCNA too
[21:37] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, i will install windows, then boot into live-cd (usb-stick) and print the info and place it on the forum
[21:37] <Beldar> Gandalf, Please be aware that this is ubuntu support not chat. ;)
[21:38] <adamu> Gandalf, CEH is good but its not hands on
[21:38] <Gandalf> Ah, sorry sorry. I might need ubuntu help here in a minute, I'm about to try a USB 12.04 install on a Windows 8 machine
[21:38] <technickul> Whoa I think grub loaded I was hitting esc as my computer booted and I was first shown a list idk what was on it because it went away fast then it looks like I was a command prompt?
[21:38] <adamu> Gandalf, If you want a good hands on one I recommend eCPPT and eWPT they have awesome hands on labs you can even send out phishing emails :)
[21:39] <adamu> Gandalf, eWPT is just web application stuff tho
[21:39] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, You could, but my advice would be to not mess with kit and post as is and hang tough, the regualr helpers in this area, one is a mod are on line everyday daytime US starting Monday US time
[21:39] <Beldar> it*
[21:39] <onsight666> how do i get into the software sources on the 12,04 LTS software center? theres no edit button anymore
[21:39] <technickul> The command prmopt I'm at says minimal bash-like editning it's grub version 2.0
[21:39] <rizqibintang> hello all
[21:39] <adamu> Hello
[21:40] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, the sitiuation has changed since I've formatted everything
[21:40] <adamu> well I g2g cya
[21:40] <daftykins> technickul: just restart if you weren't expecting to see GRUB
[21:40] <Beldar> onsight666, try running software-properties-gtk
[21:40] <technickul> daftykins: I do want grub because i want to be able to select which os to boot to but this is first time I'm seeing it
[21:40] <rizqibintang> i have a problem in :E failet
[21:40] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, Cool, the main thing is when you post thet script do not change the HD after is all.
[21:41] <onsight666> Thank you beldar, i love you :3
[21:41] <rizqibintang> can you all help me ... please
[21:41] <Wiz_KeeD> yes sir
[21:41] <Beldar> onsight666, I only love my cat snowbelle but thanks.
[21:41] <syntax_> Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me out with a question. I am trying to install the links web browser. Its in the universe repository, which I have checked off in Synaptic, but when I run 'sudo apt-get install links' from the command line it outputs "unable to locate package links".
[21:41] <daftykins> technickul: well, i meant the GRUB shell ^_^
[21:41] <SchrodingersScat> syntax_: have you tried a apt-get update ?
[21:42] <syntax_> nope, I will try that now. Thanks.
[21:42] <rizqibintang> yea,,,
[21:42] <technickul> daftykins: oh haha. Well that's the closest i've been to getting an OS menu lol. It seems like the actual menu disappears almost instantly then goes to grub screen
[21:42] <onsight666> Beldar: thats a shame, i still love you none the less xD
[21:42] <daftykins> technickul: sounds like you need to adjust the timeout value so you have more time to see it - you know holding left shift at boot should display it too?
[21:43] <technickul> daftykins: I got into the menu some how
[21:43] <boggle> Issue with key-mapping on new keyboard. Any advice would be greatly appreciated: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=QUT0hXG1
[21:43] <technickul> daftykins: while ubuntu was booting I hit esc and I know have the grub menu
[21:43] <syntax_> SchrodingersScat, I updated via 'apt-get update' and am getting the same output
[21:43] <technickul> it shows ubuntu, advanced options, and system setup
[21:43] <technickul> I need to have windows in that list as well
[21:43] <syntax_> when I run 'sudo apt-get install links'.
[21:44] <daftykins> technickul: did you just install Ubuntu just now, beside Windows?
[21:44] <technickul> daftykins: well earlier
[21:45] <daftykins> technickul: ok, so just to confirm, if you hit ctrl+alt+del / reset the PC, then hold left shift as it boots, you only get offered Ubuntu as options?
[21:45] <monkeyjuice> syntax_:  i think its called links2
[21:45] <AB49K2> urgh, damn internets dropping out
[21:45] <SchrodingersScat> monkeyjuice: links is also in my repos, not sure why syntax_ isn't getting it
[21:46] <technickul> daftykins: hmm I don't understand while my laptop boots if I hit esc right as I see the purple screen grub shows up for some reason otherwise it doesn't
[21:46] <syntax_> I just tried that and no luck monkeyjuice. This problem seems to be occurring with any program in that repo
[21:46] <juniour> EVan Debugger take a lot of space to install
[21:46] <monkeyjuice> ok
[21:46] <daftykins> technickul: right, but i'm saying left shift, not escape :D
[21:46] <syntax_> I'm running Lubuntu, but from what I've read online that doesn't seem to make a difference
[21:46] <SchrodingersScat> monkeyjuice: oh, links is just a link to links2 I think.
[21:46] <technickul> daftykins: alrighty so shut off computer and hold left shift as it's booting?
[21:47] <xangua> syntax_: with any¿ what ubuntu release are you using¿
[21:47] <onsight666> technickul: yes
[21:47] <daftykins> ^
[21:47] <Guest23572> somebody speak french?
[21:48] <onsight666> not knowing the difference between lshift and esc.. /facepalm
[21:48] <Beldar> !fr | Guest23572
[21:48] <technickul> daftykins: onsight666 I held left shift as it was botting and booted stright to ubuntu
[21:48] <Beldar> Guest23572, English channel here. ;)
[21:48] <syntax_> how do I check what release I'm using (embarrassing question)
[21:48] <daftykins> syntax_: cat /etc/issue
[21:48] <onsight666> you have to hold it the second you pass the bios boot screen, and dont release it till the GRUB menu pops
[21:49] <Beldar> syntax_, lsb_release -a
[21:49] <syntax_> 13.04
[21:49] <syntax_> thanks
[21:49] <syntax_> Lubuntu 13.04
[21:50] <technickul> onsight666: so I shouldn't hold it the entire time?
[21:50] <onsight666> only press and hold once you pass your bios uefi screen
[21:51] <technickul> onsight666: sometimes it boots so fast I don't realize it
[21:51] <syntax_> I can't seem to install anything from the multiverse nor the universe repo's
[21:51] <technickul> onsight666: trying now lol
[21:51] <syntax_> despite having them checked out
[21:52] <technickul> onsight666: I held shift immediately after seeing the purple screen and it just booted straight to ubunto again
[21:52] <Beldar> syntax_, Can you run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and pastebin it
[21:52] <jquiterio> hi all
[21:53] <Guest27794> Hello! I've just installed Ubuntu on a USB flash drive with an ext4 additional partition for files
[21:53] <onsight666> technickul: are you getting a dialogue to select boot ubuntu / boot ubuntu (recovery mode) / memtest ect?
[21:53] <jquiterio> someone same day already configured ip route gw for tow local network ?
[21:53] <jquiterio> tow
[21:53] <technickul> onsight666: no
[21:53] <Beldar> syntax_, You have to have the repos not checked to be open.
[21:53] <jquiterio> two
[21:54] <Guest27794> the problem is, I've just read ext4 could quickly wear out the drive, is that true?
[21:54] <syntax_> wow, that is super embarrassing. Thanks!
[21:54] <syntax_> let me try that
[21:54] <bekks> Guest27794: that was true long ago, but ext4 has been patched already
[21:54] <docente> hi there
[21:54] <Beldar> syntax_, When you change those run a update to sync the repos.
[21:54] <syntax_> ok.
[21:55] <Guest27794> bekks so I can keep running linux from that pendrive without worrying?
[21:55] <bekks> Guest27794: Yes.
[21:55] <docente> I don't know what i have do but my touchpad isn't working, but it is recognized by xinput
[21:55] <onsight666> technickul: can you actually boot into the system at all?
[21:55] <technickul> onsight666: yup ubuntu works just fine
[21:55] <docente> click and rigth-click also are recognized
[21:55] <Guest27794> even for a long time?
[21:55] <Guest27794> bekks thanks :)
[21:55] <onsight666> alright one moment
[21:55] <mgorbach> How do I tell aptitude to clean all installed packages that don't have any deps that require them?
[21:55] <docente> when I load a live-cd it work well, but not on my regular system.
[21:56] <Beldar> mgorbach, why are you using aptitude?
[21:56] <syntax_> I've unchecked them, ran the update... but am still getting the output 'unable to locate package links'.
[21:56] <mgorbach> Beldar: New to Ubuntu (but not to linux ...). I thought aptitude was preferred over apt-get?
[21:57] <Guest27794> mgorbach If I remember correctly it's autoremove, but wait for someone else's answer
[21:57] <Beldar> syntax_, check that it is in the 13.04 repos.
[21:57] <bazhang> !aptitude | mgorbach
[21:57] <onsight666> technickul: can you boot into ubuntu and run this command in term for me? sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[21:57] <syntax_> ok.
[21:57] <Beldar> mgorbach, Not really I have never needed it in 7 years use.
[21:57] <mgorbach> Hmm, good to know.
[21:57] <mgorbach> I should stick to apt-get then?
[21:58] <bazhang> non-update 12.04 installs mgorbach
[21:58] <Beldar> mgorbach, I would aptitude has it's use, but in gneral not really needed.
[21:58] <technickul> onsight666: alrighty did that
[21:58] <mgorbach> How do I print all the installed packages?
[21:58] <Guest27794> mgorbach thought you meant apt, sorry. Anyway with apt should be apt-get autoremove
[21:58] <mgorbach> Trying to figure out whether there's anything un-needed on this new Ubuntu server install
[21:58] <impossible> where do i get the dependency. "lib32asound2"
[21:59] <syntax_> here's my output from running sudo apt-get update
[21:59] <syntax_> http://pastebin.com/kUibjgVV
[21:59] <onsight666> technickul: find the line GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT
[21:59] <Beldar> mgorbach, dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages  will put a gedit in home
[21:59] <syntax_> post the uncheck.
[21:59] <onsight666> technickul: and tell me what number is after the =
[21:59] <syntax_> apparently, at least from what I've read, links is in the repo
[22:00] <technickul> 0
[22:00] <syntax_> for 13.04
[22:00] <Beldar> syntax_, Run the upgrade command and be sure to use nicks if directing a post to a user here.
[22:00] <mgorbach> Beldar: Thanks. Is there a way to make it spit out version numbers as well?
[22:00] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, good news, now when I click "Something else" it detects the partitions...
[22:00] <technickul> onsight666: 0
[22:00] <AB49K> impossible try apt-get install lib32asound2-plugins lib32asound2-dev
[22:00] <AB49K> That should get everything you need, It's part of ALSA
[22:00] <Wiz_KeeD> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6543080/
[22:00] <Wiz_KeeD> I could install ubuntu here by manually creating swap space and all that?
[22:00] <Beldar> mgorbach, NOt that I know of myself.
[22:01] <impossible> AB49K, i appreciate it
[22:01] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: hmmm I'm looking at your boot info and mine was about 1400 lines lol
[22:01] <onsight666> technickul: alrighty change the 0 to 2 and add a # at the start of the line
[22:01] <Wiz_KeeD> hah :))
[22:01] <syntax_> Beldar, will do. If I run the upgrade command will it upgrade my distro? As I already know there is an updated version available as 13.04 is not the latest relase
[22:01] <impossible> unable to locate package
[22:01] <technickul> onsight666: so it shuould read grub_hidden_timeout=#2?
[22:01] <Abigobaldo> brazil cup http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu-Xp7IyUWw
[22:02] <Beldar> syntax_, No dist-upgrade is a upgrade within the release
[22:02] <syntax_> Belder, thanks... will run it and pastbin the output
[22:02] <onsight666> technickul: # grub_hidden_timeout=2
[22:02] <rmi> Hi. Metaquestion: Anyone who can help me with ufw? More specifically, I banned an IP-Adress (ufw deny from xx.xx.xx.xx) but that IP is still able to connect (and bruteforce my ssh).
[22:03] <technickul> onsight666: oh you want me to comment that out? What's the purpose of adding a number if we are commenting it out?
[22:03] <onsight666> technickul: sorry i wasnt clear xD, once your done save the changes and run " sudo update-grub " from terminal
[22:03] <atomic-ant> hello, know some games like crash?
[22:03] <onsight666> technickul: trust me XD its how i got mine to work
[22:03] <technickul> haha alright
[22:04] <technickul> onsight666: alright ran the command
[22:04] <Beldar> syntax_, what command are you running for the links web browser?
[22:04] <mgorbach> Coming from Gentoo, I'm a bit confused by the multiple utilities apt-get, dpkg, and dselect. Is there some way I know which to use?
[22:05] <syntax_> Beldar, to install?
[22:05] <Beldar> !find links
[22:05] <Beldar> syntax_, yes
[22:05] <onsight666> technickul: ran the sudo update-grub and updated?
[22:05] <syntax_> beldar, sudo apt-get install links
[22:05] <technickul> onsight666: yup seems like it :)
[22:05] <technickul> onsight666: now what :)
[22:05] <onsight666> technickul: alright reboot and hold that shift key and the GRUB menu should show
[22:05] <Beldar> syntax_ I see it in 13.10 is all as links
[22:05] <bazhang> mgorbach, apt-get / aptitude /software centre would be the best bets
[22:06] <syntax_> someone in here said they saw it in 13.04 as links as well
[22:06] <syntax_> I think
[22:06] <technickul> onsight666: alright do I need to uncomment that line out?
[22:06] <onsight666> technickul: it should work as is with the grub update, if not boot back in and uncomment.
[22:07] <technickul> alright here goes nothing restarting
[22:07] <sebsebseb> hi
[22:07] <syntax_> beldar, it is done updating. Should I link the pastbin?
[22:07] <circ-user-tti51> Hi all, im using VMM (GUI) to create some VM's.  I cant seem to find the "Snapshot" option? I've googled and found a command line method of creating a snapshot, but is there not an option in the GUI?
[22:07] <syntax_> beldar, or try the apt-get command again to install links?
[22:07] <bekks> circ-user-tti51: whats "VMM"?
[22:07] <technickul> onsight666: I have the grub menu
[22:07] <circ-user-tti51> bekks: Virtual Machine Manager
[22:08] <onsight666> technickul: told you it would work xD
[22:08] <bekks> circ-user-tti51: Do you mean Virtualbox?
[22:08] <boggle> Issue with key-mapping on new keyboard. Any advice would be greatly appreciated: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=QUT0hXG1
[22:08] <technickul> onsight666: lol you're right
[22:08] <circ-user-tti51> bekks: nope.
[22:08] <technickul> onsight666: I was at the screen before though while hitting esc while booting
[22:09] <Beldar> syntax_, I would like to see the dist-upgrade yes just making sure you have no broken or held packages.
[22:09] <onsight666> technickul: quick question are you by anychance using 12.10?
[22:09] <syntax_> Beldar, http://pastebin.com/3JSehuA5
[22:09] <technickul> onsight666: nope 13.10
[22:10] <technickul> onsight666: alright so how do I get windows in this grub menu?
[22:10] <technickul> so I can go back and forth when I want
[22:11] <Beldar> syntax_, Let that upgrade run and do a reboot after there are kernels there then try the install.
[22:12] <syntax_> Beldar, how do I know when it is completed?
[22:12] <onsight666> technickul: alright run " sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:12] <technickul> onsight666: alrighty where do I run that?
[22:12] <syntax_> Beldar, I assumed that it had because it prompted me with my username
[22:12] <technickul> onsight666: I'm at the grub menu still
[22:13] <onsight666> drop into root shell
[22:13] <technickul> onsight666: how :/ lol
[22:14] <impossible> is spotify only working through wine?
[22:14] <sebsebseb> technickul: what are you trying to do, add WIndows toGrub?
[22:14] <sebsebseb> impossible: yep
[22:14] <onsight666> there should be an option that says 'root'
[22:14] <technickul> sebsebseb: yes
[22:14] <sebsebseb> impossible: or  Clementine with  Spotify premium accounts apparnatly
[22:14] <Beldar> syntax_, exactly when you see the terminal as the same as when you run a command it is finished.
[22:14] <technickul> onsight666: nope just ubuntu, advaced options for ubuntu, and system start up
[22:14] <syntax_> Beldar, ok. I will reboot now
[22:14] <impossible> sebsebseb, i appreciate the info thx
[22:15] <sebsebseb> technickul: /boot/grub/menu.lst you know that's Grub and not Grub 2 right?
[22:16] <technickul> sebsebseb: i don't know what you mean I'm not familiar with taht path. right now I'm just at the grub menu where I have options to select ubuntu, advanced options, and system setup
[22:16] <docente> help with touchpad, i've tryed old kernels with no success
[22:16] <sebsebseb> technickul: sorry that was meant to go to onsight666
[22:17] <sebsebseb> !grub2
 hey sebsebseb, are you lost?  joking.  hope all is well. </ot>
[22:17] <syntax_> Beldar, I am still getting the same output when I run sudo apt-get install links
[22:18] <syntax_> Beldar, is there another program which is known to be in the universe repo which I could try to install so that we can determine that it is a problem with the repo as opposed to the program?
[22:18] <Beldar> syntax_, I'm not sure really, why would you want to use it?
[22:19] <syntax_> Beldar, I wanted to see what a text-based web browser was like.
[22:19] <sebsebseb> technickul: did you re install WIndows after Ubuntu?
[22:19] <technickul> sebsebseb: nope windows was already intalled
[22:19] <sebsebseb> technickul: ok and you put Ubuntu on, and it's not detecting Windows anymore?
[22:19] <ElixirVitae> Hello.
[22:19] <technickul> sebsebseb: correct
[22:19] <sebsebseb> Grub 2 only bootingUbuntu and nothing else
[22:19] <sebsebseb> ok
[22:20] <ElixirVitae> I am getting this warning: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!  zlib1g-dev
[22:20] <technickul> sebsebseb: however my setup is a little complicated. I have raided ssds which came with my laptop and it's uefi
[22:20] <Beldar> syntax_, can you run cat /etc/apt/sources.list and pastebin it.
[22:20] <sebsebseb> could mean that your WIndows partition is gone,  or  you just need to re configure Grub to add Windows to it
[22:20] <technickul> sebsebseb: correct only options is ubuntu
[22:20] <syntax_> Beldar, doing so now
[22:20] <ElixirVitae> What is the best way to tackle the issue?
[22:20] <technickul> sebsebseb: windows partition is not gone I can still boot to it if I set it as the boot device
[22:20] <Beldar> ElixirVitae, Did you add a repo, say a PPA?
[22:21] <ElixirVitae> Nope.
[22:21] <technickul> sebsebseb: I believe I just need to add windowds
[22:21] <ElixirVitae> I get this error when I was trying to install openssl-dev package.
[22:21] <ElixirVitae> *got
[22:21] <sebsebseb> zykotick9: <ot>  The old me used to help out a lot here,  and I  felt like seeing what things were like at the moment etc </ot>
[22:21] <Beldar> ElixirVitae, Can you pastebin the whole data?
[22:21] <ElixirVitae> Sure.
[22:21] <ElixirVitae> paste.ubuntu.com was it?
[22:21] <Beldar> ElixirVitae, yeah
[22:22] <MarGul> Every time I run flashplayer using firefox my laptop starts sounding really loud. Its not the CPU (its at the same level all the time) so i figured it has to be my graphic card. I have a HP notebook with Radeon HD6400M graphic card. My drivers are updates. Any idea what the problem might be?
[22:22] <sebsebseb> technickul: ok Grub 2 can be harder to configure than  the old  Grub,  but to me it looked like someone was giving you instructions for  the old Grub rather than Grub 2
[22:22] <Beldar> MarGul, fan maybe?
[22:22] <mgorbach> Any python users there? I'm looking for way to switch the "default" python (the symlink /usr/bin/python) to python3. It looks update-alternatives is supposed to do this, but I have no alternatives set up for python?
[22:22] <technickul> sebsebseb: yea I have no idea
[22:23] <syntax_> Beldar, http://pastebin.com/kPTfWrTG
[22:23] <MarGul> Beldar: Yes it sounds like its a fan that works really hard. But it only happens when I start using flash player
[22:23] <zykotick9> sebsebseb: oh, i remember, you where a fixture in #u back in the day
[22:23] <sebsebseb> technickul: ok  take a look at these pages  for a start, if you still need help afterthis,  carry on asking here
[22:23] <ElixirVitae> Beldar: http://pastebin.com/d6eXZPSf
[22:23] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | technickul
[22:23] <ElixirVitae> For some reason, I couldn't get paste.ubuntu.com to work, strange...
[22:25] <sebsebseb> !ot > zykotick9
[22:26] <Beldar> syntax_, All the repos are open, I assume you have run a update since opening them I'm not sure why links is not installing, my guess is it's not in the 13.04 repos or has another name. You might just ask the channel for a text browser.
[22:26] <technickul> sebsebseb: I don't see anything in those docs about adding windows unless I'm missing something
[22:26] <SchrodingersScat> !info links2
[22:26] <Beldar> ElixirVitae, It worked I see no missing keys that generally is the problem, I would just say run at you own risk, and research the app in general.
[22:27] <ElixirVitae> Missing keys you say, hmm.
[22:27] <ElixirVitae> What about if I change repos?
[22:27] <syntax_> Beldar, thanks for your help. I just ran an update to double check. Could you suggest a program that is small that is in the repo so I can double check if the problem is that the links is not in the repo?
[22:27] <Ilmen> Hello
[22:27] <ElixirVitae> I am suspicious of the local repo (tr)
[22:27] <syntax_> Beldar, as I've been having this problem with other programs which are
[22:28] <ElixirVitae> And have been getting errors during fetching of the update/upgrade data.
[22:28] <Ilmen> I'm having trouble sharing a NTFS partition with another computer by using Samba
[22:29] <physicist> Greetings. I just had installed 3.13.rc3 kernel made by Torvalds and I got an dkms error. In ubuntu somewhere exist a respective DKMS?
[22:29] <Beldar> syntax_, The repos look fine, my question is are the name of any apps correct when you try to install, and or are they in the repos is all.
[22:30] <Beldar> ElixirVitae, you would need to post errors to get get help. You can change the repo server in software sources.
[22:31] <Ilmen> I ticked everything in the sharing option tab of the partition, but it doesn't work (I'm able to share folders on my ext4 partition though)
[22:31] <Beldar> physicist, I have to wonder when you know that this and other out of release kernels are not supported you keep asking for help?
[22:31] <physicist> I need a compatible dkms for kernel 3.13-rc3 for ubuntu 13.04.
[22:31] <fedgalaxy> why do you want to change the kernel in the first place?
[22:32] <ElixirVitae> Thanks Beldar, I'll look more into it.
[22:32] <physicist> fedgalaxy: For bug fixies, of course.
[22:32] <physicist> The ordinarie kernels doesnt supports my hardware.
[22:32] <physicist> ordinaries*
[22:33] <fedgalaxy> physicist, now  i got you.
[22:33] <Beldar> physicist, Are you empirically sure of this?
[22:33] <physicist> absolutely. Beldar. I am.
[22:33] <docente> touchpad problem solved with this http://askubuntu.com/questions/262287/synaptic-touchpad-on-laptop-not-working thanks
[22:34] <fedgalaxy> physicist, describe your hardware
[22:34] <Beldar> physicist, Ah, okay I doubt that but carry on, there is something wrong I suspect not shared.
[22:34] <physicist> I have this error: DKMS part of installation failed.
[22:35] <syntax_> Does anyone have 13.08 installed and the universe repo installed?
[22:35] <laviadelvuoto> j
[22:35] <KLVTZ> Hello Everyone!
[22:35] <laviadelvuoto> ehm
[22:35] <Beldar> syntax_, 13.04?
[22:35] <physicist> fedgalaxy: Its a simple laptop: AMD APU A3500 G series, 1tb 8gb ... ..
[22:36] <Beldar> syntax_ I think you are missing the universe it appears
[22:36] <syntax_> Beldar, I thought I was running 13.08
[22:36] <physicist> Happened that some sound card issues just was solved with newest kernels. Unsupported.
[22:37] <syntax_> Beldar, I unchecked it in synaptic like you suggested. Should I re-check it?
[22:37] <KLVTZ> Would anyone know a solution to fixing a problem with my 13.10? I booted this morning an my unity launcher resetted. It's literally factory defaults. My unity tweak tool doesn't work either. And even when i try changing my background image, it doesn't change. None of my settings apply when trying to change them.
[22:37] <boggle> Issue with key-mapping on new keyboard. Any advice would be greatly appreciated: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=QUT0hXG1
[22:38] <physicist> Beldar: If I do not make something, my system runs in low ghraphic mode.. Not even starts. Should I uninstall dkms?
[22:38] <sam_w> This error is stopping apt from doing anything...
[22:38] <sam_w> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of initramfs-tools:
[22:38] <sam_w>  initramfs-tools depends on initramfs-tools-bin (<< 0.99ubuntu13.3.1~); however:
[22:38] <sam_w>   Version of initramfs-tools-bin on system is 0.99ubuntu13.4.
[22:39] <sfan> hi
[22:39] <sam_w> any suggestions?
[22:39] <sfan> i try install tmux
[22:39] <fedgalaxy> physicist, i absolutly got your point, (honestly im running 12.04 LTS, vert stable) , if Im not mistaken, they'll be new upcoming kernels next year in february or march. I guess you have to wait untill then
[22:39] <sfan> but shorkey
[22:39] <sfan> C-b not working :(
[22:39] <physicist> fedgalaxy: I don't think dkms is necessary. When I want to upgrade kernel I reinstall it.
[22:40] <physicist> fedgalaxy: Is that plausible?
[22:40] <sfan> my tmux conf
[22:40] <sfan> https://github.com/tony/tmux-config/blob/master/.tmux.conf
[22:40] <sfan> and C-b not work
[22:41] <tuck> hello
[22:41] <syntax_> Beldar, I've solved the issue. I unchecked, re-checked and ran an update after upgrading dist as per dist-upgrade and was able to install links. THANK YOU VERY MUCH for your help. It was much appreciated.
[22:41] <syntax_> Beldar, its people like you that make the linux community so good!
[22:41] <fedgalaxy> physicist, im sure you can work something out. if you want to know more about the necesisity of dkms, you have to see the files yourself and try to remove/edit whatever you see unecessary
[22:41] <Beldar> syntax_, Unchecked means open checked means closed, no problem.
[22:42] <ElixirVitae> Beldar, it seems my problem was this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/356998/something-wicked-happened-resolving-medibuntu-repository-what-happens
[22:42] <ElixirVitae> Though how was I supposed to know that medibuntu was no more?
[22:42] <syntax_> Beldar, before I go... what is the difference between open and closed?
[22:42] <OerHeks> medibuntu is dead, use ubuntu-restricted -extras
[22:42] <syntax_> Beldar, installed and not installed?
[22:42] <KLVTZ> Would anyone know a solution to fixing a problem with my 13.10? I booted this morning an my unity launcher resetted. It's literally factory defaults. My unity tweak tool doesn't work  either. And even when i try changing my background image, it doesn't change. None of my settings apply when trying to change them.
[22:42] <Beldar> ElixirVitae, by researching, it has been closed for awhile.
[22:43] <ElixirVitae> I have been ignoring the errors for a while.
[22:43] <physicist> fedgalaxy: I see. I can try..Thank you for the support.
[22:43] <ElixirVitae> Shouldn't have done that, I guess.
[22:43] <Beldar> syntax_, open and closed in what context?
[22:43] <ElixirVitae> Oh well.
[22:43] <syntax_> Beldar, in the context of checks in repo's
[22:43] <Beldar> ElixirVitae, Heh, never ignore errors. ;)
[22:43] <ElixirVitae> Thanks again, Beldar, OerHeks.
[22:43] <syntax_> Beldar, in synaptic
[22:44] <fedgalaxy> physicist, no problem mate. I wish I had exact answer, but as you know each laptop has different hardware, it is kinda difficult to make a global kernel works with all new laptops with 100% functionality
[22:45] <syntax_> Beldar, is all good. I'll google it. You're busy enough. Thanks again. Have a good night.
[22:46] <tuck> trying to learn to write scripts.   I want to grab sayings/quotes out of a file everytime someone logs in.
[22:46] <tuck> My approach appears to be all wrong.
[22:46] <sebsebseb> technickul: hi agai oh UEFI...
[22:46] <sebsebseb> technickul: was looking above, that complactes things
[22:47] <technickul> sebsebseb: yes lol
[22:47] <technickul> and now after I instaleld updates and looking at grub menu there appears to be another ubuntu but it's named ubuntu 13.10
[22:47] <sebsebseb> technickul: do you know anything about UEFI  secure boot and the issues in general when it comes to Linux?  means you can't just use the stanard boot loader I think
[22:47] <technickul> sebsebseb: secure boot is off
[22:47] <tuck> What is UEFI  ?
[22:48] <tuck> Is there an option or something to block all these quits/joinss ??
[22:49] <sebsebseb> tuck: in your IRC client some where possibly
[22:49] <KLVTZ> So I've reinstalled unity and all it's options and still nothing. Every restart the launcher resets. It's really annoying.
[22:49] <jmgk> hi all
[22:49] <jmgk> tuck:  there is
[22:49] <Beldar> !uefi | tuck you asked
[22:50] <sebsebseb> technickul: ask your questio again in a bit, I don't think I am going to be of much help actsually
[22:50] <KLVTZ> Launcher is defaulted. Settings don't apply. Looks like I'm going to have to do a clean install :(
[22:50] <technickul> sebsebseb: alright thank you!
[22:50] <KLVTZ> damn, so much time wasted because of this annoyance
[22:51] <Beldar> tuck, If you want details on uefi the web has 1000's of links.
[22:51] <Beldar> probably millions
[22:51] <technickul> sebsebseb: do you know what the difference is between shimx64 and grubx64?
[22:51] <Coryn> so when do family guy air today?
[22:51] <tuck> Thank you.  ubottu.
[22:51] <bazhang> Coryn, thats offtopic here
[22:52] <jmgk> tuck:  ubotto is a bot
[22:52] <maria> MJSZD
[22:52] <sebsebseb> technickul: not reallly, but taking a guess,  the shim is the special boot loader  for UEFI secure boot,  and  grubx64 is some kind of 64bit Grub,  I don't know
[22:52] <technickul> sebsebseb: no problem just curious thanks
[22:52] <sfan> hi
[22:52] <sfan> i have problem
[22:52] <sfan> tmux short keys
[22:52] <sebsebseb> technickul: you could look them up I assume though
[22:52] <sfan> not works
[22:53] <sebsebseb> !ask | sfan
[22:53] <technickul> sebsebseb: yup I am just wondering if you knew off the top of your head
[22:53] <sebsebseb> sfan: what's the problem?
[22:53] <sebsebseb> technickul: oh ok
[22:53] <sfan> tmux not work
[22:53] <maria> hello
[22:53] <KLVTZ> Hello maria!
[22:53] <sebsebseb> maria: hi
[22:53] <Beldar> !details | sfan
[22:54] <maria> hello
[22:54] <maria> you
[22:55] <sfan> I have problem with tmux. I installed, and my version is 1.8, but short key CTRL + B % not working. This is my config file https://github.com/tony/tmux-config/blob/master/.tmux.conf
[22:55] <Sparrow_> dinosuars are just a front to hide the fact pokemon exist
[22:55] <maria> hol<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
[22:55] <k1l_> Sparrow_: lets stick to ubuntu support in here
[22:55] <bazhang> Sparrow_, thats not ontopic here, please take chit chat elsewhere
[22:56] <bazhang> !es | maria
[22:57] <Wiz_KeeD> technickul, did you solve your problem?
[23:01] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: not completely you?
[23:01] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: I am able to get grub menu now but windows isn't there
[23:02] <dondopa> Can you draw using the command-line?
[23:02] <Beldar> technickul, Have you posted that script to that thread?
[23:03] <Wiz_KeeD> I got both but idk how orthodox was my method
[23:03] <technickul> Beldar: which script the boot info?
[23:03] <Wiz_KeeD> Will return tommorow technickul, exchange notes then :D
[23:03] <Beldar> technickul, Yes.
[23:03] <Wiz_KeeD> Cheers, and good luck
[23:03] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: plesase share
[23:03] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, thank you for everything
[23:03] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD:  alright lol
[23:03] <Wiz_KeeD> I really have to go now osrry
[23:03] <Wiz_KeeD> will talk tommorow
[23:03] <technickul> Beldar: yup I posted the boot info
[23:03] <Wiz_KeeD> goodd evening getns
[23:03] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, sounds like you git fixxed up no orob.
[23:04] <Wiz_KeeD> Somewhat Beldar, installed manually and boot repair
[23:04] <Beldar> technickul, Cool, just be aware if you change the set up in any way that posted script does not represent what is the after the changes.
[23:04] <Andy__> Question: When I try to run steam through Wine I get an error after inputting the code from the login screen to verify it is me, and then it closes.
[23:05] <Beldar> there*
[23:05] <sebsebseb> Andy__: there's Steam for Linux now
[23:05] <sebsebseb> Andy__: so Wine isn't really needed for that now
[23:05] <sebsebseb> !steam
[23:05] <Andy__> Sewbseseb: But I want the Wine version so I can run Terraria.\
[23:06] <Beldar> technickul, That script is a great diagnostic tool but has to represent exactly the set up as is.
[23:06] <sebsebseb> oh the WIndows versoin for Windows games I see,  may want to try #winehq then as well good luck
[23:06] <Andy__> Ok thanks
[23:06] <technickul> Beldar: Looks like someone responded but I don't understand what they are saying :/
[23:06] <Beldar> technickul, post the link.
[23:06] <technickul> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1769482&p=12868627#post12868627
[23:08] <technickul> Beldar: I think what they might be getting at is that I don't necessarily ahve to use grub? Right now  I could boot into windows by setting in the bios to boot to windows and vice versa for ubuntu
[23:08] <Beldar> technickul, That is the user you want help from, tell them you do not understand, I used to be a member of the forums, they are the best in this area. Be distinct on what you do not understand with them.
[23:08] <technickul> Beldar: great :) thank you!
[23:09] <adamu> hiya
[23:09] <sebsebseb> adamu: hi
[23:09] <genio_> hi
[23:09] <adamu> how are you guys doing?
[23:10] <Beldar> technickul, No problem oldfred is the best, I learned all the dualboot I know from  them, and used to work to help others there before this uefi fun/pain.
[23:11] <technickul> Beldar: then I will make sure to pay attention. I noticed they are Chicago suburbs I'm in chicago :)
[23:11] <adamu> technickul, hey did you get everything working yet?
[23:11] <technickul> adamu: sorta
[23:11] <sebsebseb> genio_: hi
[23:11] <Ontani> Hi i'm trying to build a patch for the kernel but i'm getting: pastebin.com/tWh9gkdG
[23:11] <Ontani> http://pastebin.com/tWh9gkdG
[23:11] <Beldar> technickul, yep in chicago, which is cool you are in the same time zone, they are quick to answer, when on line.
[23:11] <ramsch> hej there. As I see CVE-2013-4547 has been marked as fixed but I cant see they have been pushed. Has 1.1.19-1ubuntu0.5 been made available in apt already? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/nginx/+bug/1253691
[23:13] <ramsch> Or, in other words, does anyone know when 1.1.19-1ubuntu0.5 will be pushed?
[23:13] <ramsch> oh sorry, nginx-1.1.19-1ubuntu0.5
[23:14] <adamu> ramsch, maybe they just patched the bug in that current version and didn't increment the version number?
[23:14] <adamu> ramsch, or push a newer version of nginx?
[23:15] <adamu> I suppose one could try to exploit the vulnerability to see if it was exploitable if you wanted too
[23:18] <iceroot> ramsch: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/nginx
[23:18] <iceroot> ramsch: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/n/nginx/nginx_1.1.19-1ubuntu0.5/changelog
[23:19] <impossible> ubuntu on mt laptop is being really twitchy. how can i make it use less resources or stop what i doint need
[23:19] <Ontani> any idea's why i'm getting these errors: http://pastebin.com/tWh9gkdG
[23:21] <client> Hello
[23:22] <client> Does anybody know where the firefox IRC chat is hosted?
[23:22] <iceroot> client: irc.mozilla.org
[23:22] <sebsebseb> client: #firefox on here or irc.mozilla.org
[23:22] <vee_> hey guys quick question. i just installed pantheon on ubuntu minimal, but the shutdown doesn't seem to work. any ideas why?
[23:22] <bazhang> !alis | client
[23:23] <ramsch> ok, i see it now, thx. The fix was not mentioned by apt-listchanges but the upgrade was pulled via apt. thx and sorry for the inconvenience
[23:23] <Modi_saturn> I sometimes wonder when to use IRC channels, cause a lot of them are empty or not busy at all
[23:25] <Beldar> Modi_saturn, use when needed, and this is ubuntu support.
[23:25] <Modi_saturn> I know Beldar, that is why I won't ask my web-related question here
[23:25] <Beldar> cool
[23:26] <SchrodingersScat> I have software looking for libboost_system.so.1.48.0 but that seems to be to old to be in the repos, what do?
[23:26] <Modi_saturn> jmgk why are you private messaging me?
[23:27] <jmgk> oh
[23:27] <jmgk> sorry Modi_saturn
[23:27] <jmgk> I was looking for another user
[23:27] <jmgk> new to Ubuntu and this IRC thing
[23:27] <Modi_saturn> ok jmgk
[23:27] <bubuhganoosh> hey guys, ubuntu wont seem to shut down when i click on the shutdown button on pantheon. what could cause this?
[23:27] <jmgk> also for your web related question. There are good channels on here
[23:28] <jmgk> hmm
[23:29] <fedgalaxy> i couldnt find  a way to create multiple text files using a C programming, not c++. and there is no tutorial on this specifc matter
[23:29] <impossible> not all nvidia gfx cards are supported right?
[23:31] <Modi_saturn> bubuhganoosh try pressing the power off button to get the shutdown menu and then click on shut down, see if that works.
[23:33] <fedgalaxy> hello, can anyone tell me about c programming channel
[23:33] <k1l_> !alis | fedgalaxy
[23:34] <Modi_saturn> k1l_ are you human?
[23:34] <technickul> Beldar: I think oldfred solved my issue!
[23:34] <k1l_> Modi_saturn: yes i am
[23:34] <Beldar> technickul, He is the one that will. ;)
[23:34] <technickul> Beldar: I know have the option to select windows and boots to windows :))))!!!!
[23:35] <Bumptious> Does anyone know how to fix the "no buffer space available" issue with wifi usb things on linux?
[23:35] <Beldar> technickul, Cool, thanks for posting there, I direct many there, but they want irc help for some reason. Which is good in some but not other circumstances.
[23:36] <Bumptious> for my particular device i found a post about updating the firmware, and I placed the file in /lib/firmware
[23:36] <Bumptious> but the problem still happens
[23:36] <Bumptious> i've tried two types of wireless usb things
[23:37] <fedgalaxy> #freenode
[23:37] <Beldar> fedgalaxy, /j #freenode
[23:37] <technickul> Beldar: it's great for anyeone else who is in the same shoes ebcuase it's recorded now and people can search for it
[23:39] <Beldar> technickul, For your records I often give people this link as well on installing. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[23:39] <noemie> using alternate 12.04. want to create raid but when when creating the partitions on 2nd drive cannot get some to be same size. anyone know what is best way to create the partitions?
[23:40] <Beldar> !raid | noemie
[23:42] <technickul> Beldar: I saw that link it's in oldfreds signature
[23:43] <technickul> Beldar: now I have a different issue. Now my fan is maxed out and my batter led indicator on the power cord is flashing...
[23:43] <Beldar> technickul, I would not know anything there.
[23:45] <technickul> Beldar: alrighty thank you
[23:45] <Beldar> technickul, you might install the lm-sensors  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[23:47] <Beldar> technickul, This will give you temps, on occasion there are configs that need to be adjusted to make sure the readings are accurate, and the fans triggered at specific temps is all
[23:48] <technickul> Beldar: awesome looking into tit!
[23:48] <technickul> it
[23:49] <noemie> i have been at sites like that all day... cant get it working
[23:49] <noemie> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/advanced-installation.html
[23:50] <noemie> another one. created 10g/5g/750mb/8g/10g/100g/850g
[23:50] <guest549> i just installed nvidia drivers and i booted. logged in and i se a black screen and my cursor
[23:50] <MarGul> flash player runs so bad on my laptop. So slow and it freezes a lot. Is there any other plugin that I can use that works better? I have read that ubuntu has some issues with flash player because it uses hardware video acceleration and its not supported by Llinux.
[23:50] <noemie> but when trying that on 2nd drive, the sizes of some are smaller even though I would put in 5.0
[23:51] <Beldar> MarGul, Have you tried the chrome browser it has it's own updated flash?
[23:52] <guest549> should i remove the drivers? through live cd?
[23:52] <MarGul> Beldar: No I have not. Will try that right now, really like firefox though and have been using it for a while :/
[23:52] <Beldar> !nomodeset | guest549
[23:53] <guest549> beldar. it happened after installing a driver
[23:53] <Beldar> MarGul, Yeah I use FF primarily, it would help to know the context of this flash problem and your chip and ram amount and desktop your using.
[23:54] <noemie> this page is showing two partitions / and swap. but at bottom of page it says Repeat steps three through eight for the other disk and partitions.
[23:54] <noemie> which is moronic
[23:54] <Beldar> guest549, Yes, the nomodeset option is a low graphic boot to get you to the desktop.
[23:54] <MarGul> Beldar: I run a hp pavilion g6 series with a radeon HD 6400M and I have 6GB of RAM. The flash problem is mostly that its very slow to buffer and it freezes a lot. Also my fan in my laptop goes to overload mode when I use flash player
[23:54] <Beldar> guest549, You would have to chroot from a live cd, not really needed.
[23:55] <noemie> what is wrong with the partition editor in alternate 12.04?
[23:55] <noemie> should be able to create several partitions on both drives of equal size
[23:56] <guest549> beldar so i do no modset and remove driver there?
[23:56] <Beldar> MarGul, Have you installed htop to see what is running and how high the memory is running? htop is just an install than htop in the terminal
[23:56] <Meris> I ḿ trying to create a bootable  UEFI USB stick to boot Ubuntu 13.10 from. Simply using Startup Disk Creator does not seem to work, it fails to be recognized as a boot device on my UEFI laptop.
[23:56] <MarGul> Beldar: No I have not. I will try that now.
[23:57] <Beldar> guest549, The nomodeset is a low graphic boot hopefully to the desktop where you would do the voodoo you need to do. I'm not a graphic expert only trying ti get you to the desktop. Be deatiled for more help to the channel with the nvidia card and what you have done.
[23:58] <FartLover> God is going to punish the world for its sin one day
[23:58] <FartLover> Now is the time to turn to christ!
[23:58] <Beldar> !ops | FartLover
[23:58] <compdoc> now is the time to turn to ubuntu
[23:58] <FartLover> compdoc: i use chromebook
[23:58] <FartLover> so its similar ^_^
[23:59] <compdoc> I use more than you