| skellat | micahg: You want me to open the bug for SRU paperwork to get started for killing off the indicators issue? | 01:49 |
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| skellat | ali1234: Are you still around at this hour? | 02:15 |
| ali1234 | yeah | 02:15 |
| skellat | Have you started an SRU bug already? | 02:15 |
| ali1234 | no | 02:15 |
| skellat | Crud | 02:15 |
| skellat | Let me see if I can get one started so we can fill in the blanks for micahg | 02:16 |
| skellat | ali1234: What's the package we would be updating? | 02:16 |
| ali1234 | indicator-sound-gtk2 | 02:16 |
| ali1234 | do we really need a new bug? what's wrong with the existing one? | 02:17 |
| skellat | ali1234: I thought about using the existing one | 02:18 |
| skellat | I don't want the current commentators messing with the SRU stuff | 02:18 |
| skellat | But, we can still use the current bug | 02:18 |
| skellat | http://pad.lv/1208204 | 02:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1208204 in indicator-sound-gtk2 (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged] | 02:19 |
| ali1234 | fair enough | 02:19 |
| ali1234 | so, random question | 02:20 |
| ali1234 | in my ppa the debdiff only shows the difference between the current version and the previous one i uploaded, which i deleted | 02:21 |
| ali1234 | why? | 02:21 |
| Unit193 | Because it's a diff from "this version to previous" | 02:21 |
| ali1234 | but previous no longer exists | 02:21 |
| Unit193 | And when you upload a newer version, the older one will also no longer exist. | 02:23 |
| skellat | ali1234: Here's what I've got so far for the SRU paperwork: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6538478/ | 02:24 |
| ali1234 | Unit193: that's the thing: when i uploaded a new version, the old ones stayed and i had to manually delete them | 02:24 |
| Unit193 | ali1234: They will until the new ones are fully built and published, yes. | 02:25 |
| ali1234 | skellat: so the biggest regression potential is if it cnflicts with the gtk3 indicator somehow | 02:27 |
| skellat | How would we know? | 02:27 |
| ali1234 | "try it" | 02:28 |
| ali1234 | the only way i can think of is if the two services both use the same dconf keys or something | 02:28 |
| skellat | Lets shift to this Etherpad to edit perhaps: http://pad.ubuntu.com/spiE1k9rME | 02:28 |
| ali1234 | which they do | 02:28 |
| ali1234 | but i don't know if it matters | 02:28 |
| skellat | ali1234: Does it look somewhat decent now? | 02:38 |
| ali1234 | yeah, i didn't want you to delete the whole paragraph. i think we should mention we only want to fix the gtk2 indicator because landing gtk3 would be huge | 02:39 |
| skellat | Sorry | 02:40 |
| skellat | Just hit Control-Z on my end | 02:40 |
| skellat | ali1234: It looks like all three derive from the same source project: https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicators-gtk2 | 02:45 |
| ali1234 | yes, that project was set up to maintain the gtk2 versions after upstream dropped them | 02:45 |
| ali1234 | ido-gtk2 is a support library which draws widgets | 02:46 |
| skellat | ali1234: You satisfied with the way the SRU paperwork looks? | 03:03 |
| ali1234 | yes | 03:03 |
| skellat | Should we go ahead and use the existing bug still? | 03:03 |
| skellat | It is triaged so I actually can just change the description then assign it to micahg and be done with it | 03:04 |
| ali1234 | up to your judgement | 03:04 |
| skellat | There are risks with the commentators though | 03:04 |
| ali1234 | yeah | 03:04 |
| ali1234 | i can watch the bug for silly changes | 03:04 |
| skellat | Screw it, LP Bug #1208204 it is! | 03:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1208204 in indicator-sound-gtk2 (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1208204 | 03:04 |
| ali1234 | otoh at least it looks like we're doing something | 03:04 |
| ali1234 | rather than hiding it | 03:04 |
| ali1234 | so... shall i post a debdiff then? | 03:07 |
| skellat | ali1234: We should leave that for micahg | 03:08 |
| ali1234 | how do you mean? | 03:08 |
| skellat | He's supposed to do his own build and upload | 03:10 |
| ali1234 | yeah, but won't he need the debdiff to know what to actually fix? | 03:11 |
| skellat | True | 03:11 |
| skellat | Go for it | 03:11 |
| skellat | I had to make a request in #ubuntu-bugs for somebody to assign the bug to him since I lack that power | 03:11 |
| ali1234 | hmm... attachment seems to have got lost somewhere... i don't see it | 03:17 |
| ali1234 | oh well | 03:17 |
| skellat | It is moving on the right path | 03:17 |
| Unit193 | ali1234: I see the debdiff on the right side, under "Patches" | 03:23 |
| ali1234 | ah yes | 03:24 |
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| Unit193 | bluesabre: /var/lib/dpkg/info/lightdm-gtk-greeter.postinst: 20: /var/lib/dpkg/info/lightdm-gtk-greeter.postinst: /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults: not found === http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/amd64/lightdm/filelist | 09:38 |
| Unit193 | lightdm (1.9.4-0ubuntu1): - Remove lightdm-set-defaults and gdmflexiserver. | 09:43 |
| Unit193 | "New" method: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/unity-greeter/trusty/view/head:/debian/50-unity-greeter.conf | 09:53 |
| Unit193 | I could propose 10-xubuntu.conf for xubuntu-default-settings, if that's actually needed (very easy.) | 09:57 |
| Unit193 | Anywho: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/unity-greeter/trusty/revision/57 - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/ubuntu-settings/trusty/revision/10 | 09:59 |
| knome | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-t/group/topic-t-flavor-xubuntu.html | 10:31 |
| elfy | nice - glad to see that -qa has things listed and not just me :p | 10:42 |
| knome | heh | 10:42 |
| elfy | leave it a little while and then move things from -qa to ~Unit193 | 10:43 |
| knome | yep | 10:47 |
| knome | sounds fair | 10:47 |
| knome | elfy, was there anybody who responded to the mail sent to -testers, or did you see new testers pop up in the tracker? | 11:03 |
| bluesabre | ah, Unit193: please do :) | 11:05 |
| elfy | knome: no replies to me - and I've not been in any fit state to check if we've got any new names | 11:12 |
| knome | oki | 11:12 |
| brainwash | ali1234: you should inform these users about the recent upstream changes http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=8481 | 11:52 |
| ali1234 | i don't have a forum account | 11:52 |
| brainwash | I do, but I would need to recover my password | 11:53 |
| brainwash | and the affected package "xfwm4 (ubuntu)" should be changed to "xfwm4" or? bug 1232804 | 11:54 |
| ubottu | bug 1232804 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "Improve "login greeter -> desktop" transition in Xubuntu" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1232804 | 11:54 |
| ali1234 | yes | 11:55 |
| ali1234 | i'm looking at tearing and opengl | 11:56 |
| ali1234 | opengl compositing is an order of magnitude slower on nvidia | 11:56 |
| ali1234 | but it fixes the tearing that you get with Xrender | 11:56 |
| brainwash | so opengl instead of xrender as backend? | 11:56 |
| brainwash | what about the recent addition of vsync to xfwm4? | 11:57 |
| ali1234 | so i'm wondering why we can't just render everything to a buffer with Xrender (like we do now) and then copy that buffer into the opengl backbuffer one time | 11:57 |
| ali1234 | the vsync code doesn't work on nvidia | 11:57 |
| ali1234 | nvidia drivers are crap for anything but games | 11:57 |
| brainwash | doesn't the driver offer a vsync option? | 11:57 |
| ali1234 | yes, for opengl | 11:58 |
| brainwash | like the AMD one does | 11:58 |
| brainwash | oh | 11:58 |
| brainwash | sounds a bit complicated | 11:58 |
| ali1234 | yes it is a bit | 11:58 |
| brainwash | how about copying the code of some other compositing manager? :) | 11:59 |
| brainwash | like compton | 12:00 |
| brainwash | still, not an easy task | 12:00 |
| brainwash | so xfwm4 could run with both backends, xrender or opengl | 12:01 |
| ali1234 | compton compositor is almost identical to xfwm4 | 12:03 |
| ali1234 | they are both copied directly from xcompmgr | 12:03 |
| ali1234 | compton even still has some of the bugs i've fixed in xfwm4 | 12:03 |
| brainwash | but it can use opengl | 12:04 |
| ali1234 | yes, which means it's slow on nvidia | 12:04 |
| ali1234 | like 15FPS slow | 12:04 |
| brainwash | ok, mmh, blame nvidia? | 12:04 |
| ali1234 | i don't see a reason to render every window using opengl | 12:05 |
| ali1234 | do it all with xrender and the copy it using opengl at the end | 12:05 |
| ali1234 | we already render everything in an offscreen buffer | 12:05 |
| ali1234 | this should be easy | 12:05 |
| brainwash | yes, sounds easy | 12:05 |
| brainwash | I could test it on my AMD powered system, if you come up with a patch :) | 12:07 |
| slickymaster | afternoon all | 16:15 |
| knome | hey slickymaster | 16:16 |
| slickymaster | hi knome | 16:16 |
| slickymaster | just finished reading -meeting logs for last friday | 16:16 |
| slickymaster | but still got update myself on the dozen of mails from the mailing | 16:17 |
| knome | that'll take some time | 16:17 |
| slickymaster | :) | 16:18 |
| slickymaster | knome, congrats. Just saw the new https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ page | 16:20 |
| slickymaster | Is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OtherResources finished or are you still working on it? | 16:21 |
| knome | pretty much finished. but it's of course always a WIP | 16:22 |
| slickymaster | yes | 16:22 |
| slickymaster | nice work knome | 16:22 |
| slickymaster | . kudos | 16:22 |
| knome | ta | 16:23 |
| elfy | hi slickymaster knome | 16:38 |
| knome | hullo elfy | 16:39 |
| elfy | better today - been driving :) | 16:39 |
| slickymaster | hi elfy | 16:39 |
| slickymaster | glad to hear that | 16:39 |
| knome | cool | 16:39 |
| elfy | :) | 16:39 |
| slickymaster | elfy, saw the mail from -qa | 16:39 |
| elfy | ok | 16:39 |
| elfy | it's not from -qa ;) | 16:40 |
| elfy | it's from me :) | 16:40 |
| elfy | not everyone in the -qa team actaully got the mail :p | 16:40 |
| slickymaster | will answer it today. Trying to catch up with all the mail knome presented me this weekend | 16:40 |
| slickymaster | noticed that now ;) | 16:41 |
| elfy | slickymaster: no rush on it at all | 16:41 |
| elfy | I've got a whole week to try and catch up on | 16:41 |
| slickymaster | did you saw the mugshot manual test? | 16:41 |
| knome | i don't think i'm on ubuntu-qa if that's something in there;) | 16:41 |
| elfy | knome: you are on -qa, but I didn't bother CC'ing you in to it - if anything comes of it you will get a fait accompli :D | 16:43 |
| knome | goodie | 16:44 |
| elfy | :) | 16:45 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Did the one. | 19:03 |
| Unit193 | Uhh, that so did not work, I hate bzr. | 19:06 |
| Unit193 | There. | 19:09 |
| slickymaster | knome, as you were on the xubuntu subject, how is https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1213933 going to be dealt with, directly in ubiquity? | 22:03 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1213933 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Slideshow recommends trying out environment which isn't present" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 22:03 |
| knome | slickymaster, we need to review the slideshow | 22:04 |
| slickymaster | yes, there's also the reference to 13.10 in the first slide that has to be changed | 22:04 |
| knome | https://code.launchpad.net/~ubiquity-slideshow/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/html | 22:05 |
| slickymaster | I can assign myself to both and propose a merge? what do you think? | 22:07 |
| knome | we probably need to look at the slideshow at large, but works for me | 22:07 |
| knome | are you familiar with the slideshow branch or want a brief introduction? | 22:07 |
| slickymaster | it's very similar to other branches on other LP teams, or am I wrong? | 22:08 |
| slickymaster | I will just be working on http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubiquity-slideshow/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/html/files/head:/slideshows/xubuntu/slides/ | 22:08 |
| knome | the pulling and stuff is similar, i was referring to the contents | 22:08 |
| slickymaster | knome, ^^ | 22:08 |
| knome | yep. | 22:08 |
| knome | you can test the slideshow as well though | 22:09 |
| slickymaster | yeah, I think i can manage | 22:09 |
| knome | in the root directory for the branch, type: ./test-slideshow.sh xubuntu | 22:09 |
| slickymaster | anyway, I'm assuming that you'll be one of the reviewers, right? | 22:09 |
| knome | yep. | 22:09 |
| slickymaster | you mean to run it and test it locally | 22:10 |
| knome | yep | 22:10 |
| slickymaster | will do | 22:10 |
| knome | after you've made your changes, just run that command | 22:10 |
| knome | and you'll see your changes | 22:10 |
| slickymaster | ok | 22:10 |
| slickymaster | I'll assign myself | 22:10 |
| knome | and can play around in a fake slideshow environment | 22:10 |
| knome | cheers :) | 22:10 |
| slickymaster | you do keep us busy | 22:11 |
| knome | and myself ;) | 22:12 |
| slickymaster | very true ;) | 22:12 |
| slickymaster | knome, I getting: bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:~slickymaster/ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/": No such distribution series ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu. when pushing my branch | 22:34 |
| slickymaster | can it be a permissions iusse? | 22:34 |
| slickymaster | nevermind knome I figured it out | 22:51 |
| slickymaster | knome, available for your review and merge https://code.launchpad.net/~slickymaster/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+merge/198184 | 22:53 |
| knome | slickymaster, cheers, will get to that later | 23:10 |
| slickymaster | okie dokie, knome | 23:10 |
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