[01:01] <valorie> !ufi
[01:01] <valorie> !eufi
[01:01] <Unit193> !uefi
[01:01] <valorie> pfff
[01:01] <Unit193> :D
[01:01] <valorie> I can't spell, evidently
[01:01] <Unit193> "efi" is also acceptable.
[01:01] <valorie> thanks, Unit193
[01:01] <Unit193> Sure.
[04:05] <roasted> hello friends
[04:05] <roasted> does anybody know if the homerun launcher is still being worked on? I thought it had passed 1.1.0 but now, months later, I revisited it and I see only 1.1.0 in the ppa
[04:07] <tsimpson> it's still being developed but 1.1.0 is the latest version https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/base/homerun/repository
[04:26] <roasted> tsimpson: I thought for sure I had pulled down a 1.2.0 at some point. I hadn't been on a KDE distro in some time now so I was revisiting it. I thought for sure I was goofing something up but 1.1.0 was all I could find. Clearly I goofed.
[04:27] <James0r> what is the official forums site for kubuntu now? i see kubuntuforums.org isn't working at the moment
[04:30] <apachelogger> James0r: "official" is a bit of a stretch but try kubuntuforums.net ;)
[04:31] <James0r> apachelogger, i've been getting "Error 503 : Service Temporarily Unavailable" since i installed kubuntu a few weeks ago. the ubuntu forums are relevant for most things of course not always kde specific.
[04:33] <apachelogger> not seeing a 503 here
[04:34] <James0r> apachelogger, ahh. might be my connection then. there is some govt censorship in vietnam but i don't imagine they'd block a site like that.
[04:36] <James0r> i read something about the site getting DOS attacked so maybe this is a preventative measure against DOS attacks?
[04:36] <apachelogger> certaily possible
[08:05] <Nanodesu> Guys
[08:05] <Nanodesu> How can I delete steam?
[08:05] <Nanodesu> ptitude search steam v   steam                                                                             -                                                                                              p   steam:i386                                                                        - Valve's Steam digital software delivery system
[08:05] <FloodBotK1> Nanodesu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:06] <Nanodesu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6544688/
[08:07] <Nanodesu> Please, read the paste
[08:15] <Nanodesu> apachelogger: are you on?
[08:27] <Nanodesu> Someone?
[08:31] <tsimpson> Nanodesu: try "sudo apt-get remove steam:i386"
[08:32] <MangaKaDenza> say Nanodesu I'm just wondering the reason of why you want to remove steam...
[08:32] <MangaKaDenza> conflicting with software?
[08:32] <Nanodesu> I'm not  gamer
[08:32] <Nanodesu> I installed it for a friend
[08:43] <Nanodesu> I will try tsimpson, thanks friend
[09:22] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:43] <apb1963> So I was messing around with the window manager and I'm not sure what I did, but now all of my chrome windows are "stuck together", in that when I move one window to a different virtual desktop, they all move.  Also, now the very top has a list of window titles.  Anybody know how I can "unstick" these windows and get ride of those extra window titles that weren't there before?  kubuntu 12.04.3
[11:52] <schreber> Is there anyway to turn off transparency on the taskbar, I've looked in system settings > workspace appearance but I can't seem to locate anything related to transparency?
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:36] <shadeslayer> schreber: the only way to do it is by turning off compositing afaik
[12:56] <impadmin> hello
[12:57] <impadmin> hie
[13:38] <Purv0147> hello
[13:38] <Purv0147> what is kubuntu???
[13:53] <James0r> wasn't getting through to kubuntuforums.net earlier but it's working now. nice.
[14:27] <Guest56831> Hi all.
[14:27] <Guest56831> Anybody able to help me with a quick problem
[14:27] <Guest56831> ?
[14:27] <Guest56831> I just installed Kubuntu, and when I try to use su in the konsole it says my password is wrong.
[14:28] <Guest56831> I have it auto log in so I don't know what my password is from my install.
[14:28] <Guest56831> how can I change it
[14:29] <Guest56831> Hello
[14:29] <Guest56831> anybody?
[14:29] <Guest56831> ccoo
[14:37] <crowell> Guest56831: if you're here under a different nick now, ubuntu by default doesn't have a root user with a password you set, you'll want to do "sudo su" to get the same effect
[15:01] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[15:03] <crowell> FloodBotK1: do you really need to tell us that _every_ time?
[15:03] <crowell> we've got netsplits on deck all day
[17:01] <kaddi> hi, my pc forgets the password to my wifi network on a regular basis and then disconnects me because of it. How can I prevent htat? OS is kubuntu 13.10, 64bit
[17:32] <Walex> kaddi: that is not happening.
[17:34] <kaddi> well i get the popup to enter my wifi password, then it disconnects me
[17:34] <kaddi> might be something else that's happening, but that's how it looks to me
[17:34] <kaddi> wifi is stable, btw, as I stay connected on my other PC and phone
[17:39] <Walex> kaddi: if you get the password popup it is because the connection was dropped by the access point...
[17:40] <Walex> kaddi: the connection is not necessarily stable, a difference in place of 1-2m can make a big difference, and also a difference of WiFi chipset in your PC.
[17:40] <Walex> kaddi: anyhow as always to figure out what is happening you need to look at your system logs.
[17:41] <kaddi> ok
[17:41] <Walex> kaddi: most tools for WiFi do some logging even if it may be somewhat hard to interpret.
[17:42] <kaddi> is cfg80211 a wifi related module?
[17:42] <Walex> kaddi: yes.
[17:42] <kaddi> ok
[17:43] <kaddi> can i show you an extract of the dmesg and you can tell me if you see the problem?
[17:43] <Walex> radio transmission is a miracle when it works...
[17:43] <Walex> kaddi: paste.debian.net for the extract...
[17:44] <kaddi> http://paste.debian.net/hidden/01fcfbd1/ thanks :) Not sure how much you need, I just picked a certain length that seemed to inclde reconnects
[17:48] <Walex> kaddi: it reconnects rather frequently. However very strange to see "IPv6: wlan0: IPv6 duplicate address fe80::5e51:4fff:fe22:3030 detected!"
[17:48] <Walex> kaddi: try to put on the same site the output of 'ip l s dev wlan0'
[17:49] <kaddi> yeah, especially since I don't think we atually use ipv6
[17:49] <kaddi> with sudo?
[17:49] <Walex> yes 'sudo'
[17:49] <kaddi> should there be output?
[17:50] <Walex> kaddi: so called link-local IPv6 addresses are default.
[17:50] <kaddi> Walex: i don't get any output for sudo ip l s dev wlan0
[17:50] <Walex> kaddi: but they have part of the hw address so if one is duplicated there are chances two WiFi interfaces have the same hw address
[17:50] <kaddi> Walex: good to know :) I'm not knowledgeable with that stuff
[17:52] <Walex> kaddi: no output? Not even the error message "Cannot find device "wlan0""?
[17:52] <kaddi> Walex: none. Without the sudo i get RTNETLINK answers: Operation not permitted. With sudo it just returns nothing
[17:53] <kaddi> http://paste.debian.net/hidden/20b2539b/
[18:09] <kaddi> Walex: not sure if that's relevant but this has appeared since we started talking in the dmesg: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/a120c700/ I haven't been disconnected though
[18:20] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: what firmware are you using for your router?
[18:21] <kaddi> it's from vodafone, easybox 803
[18:21] <kaddi> not sure what the firmware is
[18:21] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: do you have NetworkManager installed?
[18:21] <kaddi> ovrflw0x: yes, I think so
[18:22] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: are you using default kubuntu or did you modify?
[18:22] <kaddi> ovrflw0x: pretty much using default kubuntu, fresh install when 13.10 came out (there were some tips given to me here because the wifi wouldn't work back then either. I'd have to look it up)
[18:23] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: did you remove/install any other package related to wifi?
[18:24] <kaddi> ovrflw0x: no, it was command line stuff they asked me to... I'll see if I have the logs. I had a fix IP set for a while because it was the only way to connect though
[18:28] <kaddi> hm, no doens't look like i have the logs anymore :/
[18:29] <lordievader> kaddi: If you know the date you can also look them up here: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[18:30] <kaddi> lordievader: ah thanks.. can I check the date when I installed my ubuntu somehow? It should be the same date... midth of october
[18:30] <lordievader> kaddi: I wouldn't know how, sorry.
[18:31] <kaddi> google will know :)
[18:35] <kaddi> i remember more now, the dhcp-client was blocked by apparmor and that's why I couldn't get an IP at the time and had to set one manually
[18:35] <kaddi> [15:35] <__dan__> kaddi: you could always try setting an IP address manually (sudo ifconfig wlan0 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0) as an example then (route add default gw 192.168.1.254) or whatever your network details are
[18:35] <kaddi> that's what "fixed" it in the end
[18:36] <kaddi> given that there are no messages belonging to apparmor in the dmesg output, I would assume this problem is a different one though
[18:37] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: do you have kwallet?
[18:39] <kaddi> ovrflw0x: do I need to install that manually? I kinda assumed that the password is stored in kwallet... But now that you meantion it, I don't remember setting a password for it
[18:39] <ovrflw0x> no
[18:40] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: what does your /var/log/syslog say?
[18:41] <kaddi> ovrflw0x: just checked, the password is in the wallet
[18:41] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: what does your /var/log/syslog say?
[18:42] <kaddi> ovrflw0x: this is the last hour or so: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/e3ddf5cd/
[18:48] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: what's wireless card and driver are you using?
[18:48] <ovrflw0x> what*
[18:49] <kaddi> lol, i guess that was just to prove a point
[18:49] <kaddi> i was thinking i didn't remember when the last actual disconnect was
[18:51] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: what channel does you router use?
[18:51] <kaddi> ovrflw0x: the "new" output from the disconnect: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/82980a56/ gonna look up the wireless card now
[18:51] <ovrflw0x> 20Mhz or auto?
[18:51] <kaddi> ovrflw0x: auto
[18:51] <ovrflw0x> try 20Mh
[18:52] <kaddi> i may have been wrong, the channel bandwidth is set to 20MHz and then I have something called the channel that goes from 1 to 13 which is set to auto
[18:53] <kaddi> should I choose a specific channel?
[18:53] <ovrflw0x> no
[18:53] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: open network manager -edit connections
[18:54] <kaddi> ok
[18:54] <ovrflw0x> delete everything
[18:54] <ovrflw0x> there
[18:55] <kaddi> including the connection I'm currently on?
[18:55] <ovrflw0x> no
[18:55] <ovrflw0x> the one which gets disconnected
[18:55] <kaddi> that's the one that gets disconnected
[18:55] <kaddi> eh the one i'm currently on
[18:55] <ovrflw0x> delete that and start fresh
[18:56] <kaddi> i'll need a second of preparation :p Need to look up the key first
[18:57] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: this guy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2046109 was having same problem but has no solution
[19:02] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: install this linux-firmware-nonfree
[19:02] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: what wifi card are you using?
[19:03] <kaddi> ovrflw0x: where do I check that, can't seem to figure it out on my own :/
[19:05] <FlowRiser> hey guys, i have a quick question for you if you use the kde greeter;When you log in/out does the userbar move to the last user that logged in ?
[19:05] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: lspci
[19:05] <kaddi> ovrflw0x: 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 (rev 6b)
[19:05] <kaddi> just found it as well :p
[19:05] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: install "sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree"
[19:05] <kaddi> ovrflw0x: it's already running
[19:06] <ovrflw0x> what do you mean?
[19:06] <kaddi> ovrflw0x: I installed it the first time you mentioned it :)
[19:06] <ovrflw0x> ok reboot and check
[19:06] <kaddi> before asking how to identify the wifi card
[19:06] <ovrflw0x> k
[19:06] <kaddi> ok, i'll have to wait a while, they sometimes only happen every hour or more
[19:10] <ovrflw0x> hey kaddi what's up bud?
[19:10] <kaddi> i'm up at the moment :) Hoping I'll stay there too :p
[19:11] <kaddi> on shutdown i saw this error message:
[19:11] <kaddi> Dec  9 20:07:05 mytree modem-manager[8435]: <info>  ModemManager (version 0.6.0.0) starting...
[19:11] <kaddi> Dec  9 20:07:05 mytree modem-manager[8435]: Could not get the system bus. Make sure the message bus daemon is running! Message: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
[19:11] <kaddi> is that related? (this is from the syslog now, couldn't copy it fast enough from the screen at the time)
[19:12] <kaddi> (it appeared 3 times)
[19:12] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: do you use mobile broadband?
[19:12] <kaddi> ovrflw0x: no
[19:12] <ovrflw0x> ignore then
[19:12] <kaddi> ok :)
[19:13] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: how did you come up with nick "kaddi"
[19:13] <kaddi> i'm keeping my fingers crossed that this resolved the issue :) Won't know for a while... It's hard to know if something is not happening :p
[19:13] <kaddi> it's what my siblings called me when they were small (and sometimes still call me today :p)
[19:14] <kaddi> it's a "variation" of kathrin
[19:14] <ovrflw0x> oh you are female!?
[19:14] <kaddi> i am :p
[19:14] <ovrflw0x> okay how come you use linux?
[19:14] <kaddi> evil evil work forced me ;)
[19:14] <FlowRiser> ovrflw0x, don't get too excited, now
[19:15] <kaddi> and I suck with a mouse... I'd rather only use the keyboard.... MS is not aimed toward that kind of clientele ;)
[19:15] <kaddi> ovrflw0x: it was encouraged at university.. I had a friend of mine set me up with ubuntu back in 2004 and have stuck with it since
[19:15] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: so you're a programmer?
[19:15] <kaddi> a physicist :P
[19:16] <kaddi> i'm fairly sure programmers would take offense if I called myself a programmer... There's little structure in what I code ;)
[19:17] <kaddi> and you? How did you end up with linux?
[19:18] <ovrflw0x> ahh nvm
[19:20] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: what kind of physicist nuclear?
[19:20] <kaddi> astro
[19:20] <kaddi> used to do nuclear, but too many people were scared around me ;)
[19:21] <ovrflw0x> will ISRO rocket reach mar's orbit successfully?
[19:21] <kaddi> good question :P
[19:22] <kaddi> would be nice :)
[19:22] <ovrflw0x> is it true that US spent millions to make ink for pen that can be used in space, while russians just used pencil?
[19:24] <FlowRiser> Russians, like risking their lives
[19:24] <FlowRiser> imagine if the tip broke and it got accelerated into somebody's eye ...
[19:25] <ovrflw0x> i hope kaddi wifi didn't get disconnected!
[19:25] <ovrflw0x> kaddi's
[19:25] <kaddi> not really.. i think i read they bought the pens at 6$ a piece
[19:25] <kaddi> or something like that
[19:26] <ovrflw0x> who bought?
[19:26] <kaddi> nasa
[19:26] <FlowRiser> blimey, a 6$ pen cannot write with no gravity!
[19:27] <kaddi> pencils are risky, there's dust created from it and the broke mine could cause all kind of havoc.. I think the USSR used crayons, not pencils before switching to seomthing that won't smear when touched :P
[19:28] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: did universe really get created with big bang?
[19:28] <kaddi> ovrflw0x: if we knew, we'd be happy. But it's what most scientist believe today
[19:29] <ovrflw0x> how did one giant mass ball came into existence?
[19:29] <kaddi> It's quite an abstract concept, everything condensed into a singularity.
[19:30] <kaddi> ovrflw0x: the theory is not that it was created, the theory it was always there but was condensed into a point and then it "exploded" and started expanding and as the universe got bigger it got colder and particles started to cool down and bind themselves to others and thus the first atoms were born and later on the first stars and then galaxies and so on
[19:32] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: do you think there's something supernatural stuff behind universe?
[19:32] <ovrflw0x> some*
[19:33] <kaddi> i don't know. I'm not opposed to an ulterior force setting up the universe and letting it run as it is running now
[19:33] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: is "god particle" the answer to the mysteries of the universe?
[19:33] <kaddi> no, definitely not
[19:34] <ovrflw0x> some philosophies say that everything that you see throught eyes is an illusion
[19:34] <kaddi> yes
[19:34] <ovrflw0x> do you believe that?
[19:35] <kaddi> we don't contradict those, because we are only interested in reproducing in formulas accurately what we observe with our eyes. Whether or not this is an illusion or the real deal that allows us to power your car is not particularly relevant
[19:36] <kaddi> personally I find the entire argument kinda pointless. You can not know whether this is an illusion or not. Correct. But what is the benefit of even asking yourself that? What insight do you hope to get from that claim?
[19:36] <ovrflw0x> so astro physicist are only interested in "material" stuff?
[19:36] <kaddi> I'm mostly interested in material stuff. Other physicists will have other opinions ;)
[19:38] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: will the mystery of the universe ever get solved?
[19:38] <kaddi> ovrflw0x: not in our lifetime, I fear. We're only at the very beginning
[19:39] <ovrflw0x> philosophies say that we have to look inside inside our minds, to know the 'truth'
[19:39] <ovrflw0x> truth can't be found outside but inside
[19:39] <FlowRiser> or on wikileaks
[19:40] <kaddi> philosophy and physics actually were the same thing until about 100 years ago. Only then did physics and philosophy separate
[19:40] <kaddi> physics basing their reasoning on observable facts, philosophy basing themselves only reasoning
[19:41] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: can you control your thoughts which make up your mind?
[19:41] <kaddi> they pursue to completely different goals. You don't have to chose between physics and philosophy. you can have both
[19:43] <kaddi> ovrflw0x: how can I know?
[19:44] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: whole life revolves between pleasure and pain
[19:44] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: we are all limited to the 5 senses
[19:45] <ovrflw0x> all the people around the world do same thing - eat, sleep, earn money... eat, sleep...
[19:45] <ovrflw0x> not all but "most"
[19:46] <ovrflw0x> and whole life goes after searching for pleasure and running away from pain
[19:47] <kaddi> there's pleasure in science :D
[19:48] <BluesKaj> ok guys.  if you want to wax philosophical , #kubuntu-offtopic is the chat for you.
[19:48] <ovrflw0x> kaddi: are you interested in chatting?
[19:48] <ovrflw0x> the things that i said?
[19:49] <kaddi> sure why not.. but I don't think we will end up agreeing ;p
[19:49] <ovrflw0x> ok meet me in offtopic and i'll see if i can make you agree
[19:49] <Pici> Like BluesKaj said, #kubuntu-offtopic is the place for general chat. #kubuntu is for support issues only.
[19:49] <ovrflw0x> this channel is logged
[19:49]  * Pici shuts up
[19:52] <posix> I have a question: when booting to kubuntu GUI, I cannot choose the name of user to login with
[19:52] <posix> what should I do to enable this? \
[19:58] <BluesKaj> posix, do you mean the username wasn't enterd during the install?
[19:59] <soee> posix: do you have more tha 1 user?
[20:02] <BluesKaj> asks a question , then leaves
[20:03] <DarthFrog> OK, I know I should know the answer to this.  Is there a utility to kill widgets on the desktop?  I've got a note and a launcher widget that I can't close or kill and it's bugging me.
[20:12] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, the desktop cashew , is there an unlock widgets option? ... i don't use them so i assume if they can be locked , then unlocking should also be available
[20:14] <crissi> hello
[20:15] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj:  They're unlocked.  But no interaction with the widgets allows me to do anything with them except use them.
[20:15] <crissi> i just want to know when kdevelop 4.6 binaries will be available... trusty build is available (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdevelop)
[20:16] <DarthFrog> crissi:  You will have to go to the appropriate PPA.
[20:16] <DarthFrog> !ppa
[20:16] <crissi> DarthFrog: as you can see, i had the page already vistid
[20:16] <crissi> visited
[20:18] <BluesKaj> crissi, http://www.kdevelop.org/
[20:18] <crissi> i was there
[20:18] <crissi> even in #kdevelop
[20:19] <lordievader> crissi: Give the Kubuntu developers some time, they have more to do than just package kdevelop.
[20:19] <BluesKaj> maybe #kubuntu-devel has an answer for you , crissi
[20:19] <crissi> it just was a question
[20:19] <lordievader> crissi: Like BluesKaj says, poke around in #kubuntu-devel.
[20:20] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj:  I don't know what happened but I locked then unlocked widgets.  All of a sudden, I could then delete the nuisances.
[20:26] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, ok , good to know
[20:40] <BluesKaj> ok maria_, enough
[21:04] <lordievader> !repo
[21:04] <lordievader> Hmm not a real explanation.
[21:04] <Lukas_> yeah i know what is repo
[21:04] <Lukas_> but i didnt know what is kdevelop ;d
[21:05] <Lukas_> but now im know ;d
[21:05] <lordievader> Lukas_: Ah Kdevelop is an IDE.
[21:05] <Lukas_> y google told me that ;d
[23:12] <r00t_> hi its a new day of the rest of your life ;d