[00:00] <guest549> ubuntu was installed and working. i installed Drivers for gefore card like this
[00:00] <guest549> http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/install-nvidia-geforce-driver-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04-using-ppa/ beldar
[00:00] <guest549> mine is a 700 card tho
[00:00] <Meris> I'm trying to create a bootable  UEFI USB stick to boot Ubuntu 13.10 from. Simply using Startup Disk Creator does not seem to work, it fails to be recognized as a boot device on my UEFI laptop. I use Ubuntu 12.04 64Bit on my desktop computer that I use to create my disk.
[00:01] <Beldar> guest549, To the channel name the nvidia card, and by the way PPA's are not supported here.
[00:01] <guest549> the card is a nvidia gt745
[00:01] <guest549> on a laptop
[00:02] <DF3D2> yay finally got my brightness controls to work I think everything works now
[00:02] <Beldar> guest549, You are using a ppa, it is probably not needed and not supported here, you can use ppa-purge if needed.
[00:02] <Genesis_> Hello all, recently downloaded wubi.. wondering how to do a full ubuntu download and let go of windows.
[00:02] <Beldar> !ppa-purge | guest549
[00:02] <Genesis_> grateful for any feedback.
[00:02] <Beldar> Genesis_, Wubi is run from inside windows.
[00:03] <MarGul> Beldar: My CPU(have a quad) is avg around 30-40%. My Mem is 1200/6000 so not so bad, no idea why my CPU/GPU fan is so loud(just cleaned it with no difference, its only when I run flash player)
[00:03] <Genesis_> understandable, so that may mean that simply a full ubuntu needs to be downloaded onto a usb and installed..
[00:03] <Beldar> MarGul, take a look here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[00:04] <DF3D2> MarGul, odd my laptop never gets hot
[00:04] <Beldar> Genesis_, Yes, what is the windows release?
[00:05] <guest549> beldar. so if it is not needed. will the gfx card function?
[00:06] <MarGul> Beldar: Okey I will take a look at that, it will give me info about my fan speed and stuff right?
[00:06] <CompuTronix> Hi, can someone help me with a hard drive issue?
[00:06] <Beldar> guest549, Not an area I'm really up on. This channel though is for fixing problems if fixable when details are given.
[00:06] <DF3D2> CompuTronix, sup?
[00:07] <CompuTronix> DF3D2, Trying to format to NTFS, hard drive goes away after any operation starts.
[00:07] <Beldar> MarGul, That is the basic premise yes, depends on what sensors are on the computer.
[00:07] <DF3D2> CompuTronix, hmm "goes away" ?
[00:07] <Meris> CompuTronix, what do you mean with "goes away"?
[00:07] <CompuTronix> DF3D2: As in Ubuntu can no longer find the drive at that address. Says "no drive at that address"
[00:08] <Beldar> guest549, I gave you the ppa-purge in lieu of if you have to remove it it is the safest way to remove a ppa.
[00:08] <Meris> Computronix, is it an internal or an external drive?
[00:08] <MarGul> Okey thanks a lot, I have also tried to install the newest ATI drivers but when I run the fglrxinfo command it still says my version is 13.101 and not the 13.4 that I tried to install
[00:08] <CompuTronix> Meris: External, connected to USB 2.0 port via USB
[00:08] <DF3D2> CompuTronix, have you remounted since you formatted ?
[00:08] <adamu> hiya
[00:08] <CompuTronix> DF3D2: The formatting was never successful, so no.
[00:09] <Beldar> MarGul, Some have good and bad responses with fglrx, I just use the stock drivers myself from the repos.
[00:09] <CompuTronix> DF3D2: Unity and Nautilus still see the drive, but the activity light is off and the command line cannot see it.
[00:09] <DF3D2> CompuTronix, does dmesg show any errors?
[00:09] <Beldar> stock meaning open source MarGul
[00:09] <DF3D2> CompuTronix, try replugging it ?
[00:09] <CompuTronix> DF3D2: Tons of "sd 6:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device
[00:09] <adamu> CompuTronix, Is it plugged in :?
[00:09] <DF3D2> CompuTronix, try replugging it and try again
[00:10] <DF3D2> and it isn't listed in the command 'mount' ?
[00:10] <CompuTronix> DF3D2: Unplugging/replugging unsuccessful. Reboot of computer is successful, but only temporarily (same problem occurs)
[00:10] <CompuTronix> DF3D2: Running mount, I see "/dev/sdb on /media/jamison/9C55-9DEB type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks2)
[00:10] <DF3D2> CompuTronix, either the SATA>USB pcb is going bad or the HD it's self i'd say, or even possibly the USB port on the computer (less likely option)
[00:11] <CompuTronix> DF3D2: Recommended action?
[00:11] <adamu> CompuTronix, Is the external drive plugged into a power source?
[00:11] <CompuTronix> adamu: Power source derives from computer. No external power source.
[00:11] <adamu> CompuTronix, Alright
[00:11] <DF3D2> CompuTronix, pastebin sudo fdisk -l please
[00:11] <MarGul> Beldar: Okey, I was thinking about trying the opensource drivers but it dont really feel like this is a driver issue. Another thing, when I run lspci | grep VGA i get two cards. One intel integrated and then my HD Radeon 6400M. How do I know that its only using my HD radeon 6400M and not the integrated one
[00:12] <DF3D2> MarGul, specify only the amd card in xorg.conf
[00:12] <CompuTronix> DF3D2: http://pastebin.com/JG3CGAdM
[00:12] <DF3D2> so CompuTronix you are saying it is mounted, but doesn't show up in fdisk ?
[00:13] <Beldar> MarGul, Ah, dual cards, I'm not really an expert in this area, this is important info though when getting help.
[00:13] <DF3D2> CompuTronix, I think that is odd
[00:13] <CompuTronix> DF3D2: I agree hahaha
[00:13] <CompuTronix> DF3D2: Hardware problem, do you think?
[00:13] <DF3D2> CompuTronix, i've had it happen
[00:13] <DF3D2> USB>SATA pcb goes bad, but the SATA hd is fine (still using the HD in my comp years later)
[00:14] <MarGul> DF3D2: Thanks. I will try and do this, you think I need a reboot?
[00:14] <noemie> can anyone tell me when making a few partitions, size on sda and sdb are not the same even though when input the same size on creation
[00:14] <DF3D2> MarGul, for changing xorg settings? no
[00:14] <DF3D2> MarGul, google how to specify a specific device in xorg ... hint: you need the pci info from lspci
[00:14] <DF3D2> such as
[00:14] <CompuTronix> DF3D2: USB -> SATA going bad, is that a hardware issue? Will replacing USB cable fix it?
[00:14] <MarGul> Beldar: Okey, thanks for your help though. Going to try and remove my integrated one and we'll see what happens
[00:15] <Meris> I'm trying to create a bootable  UEFI USB stick to boot Ubuntu 13.10 from. Simply using Startup Disk Creator does not seem to work, it fails to be recognized as a boot device on my UEFI laptop. I use Ubuntu 12.04 64Bit on my desktop computer that I use to create my disk. The USB stick has a gpt partition table and has a primary partition formatted to FAT32
[00:15] <DF3D2> CompuTronix, the actual PCB in the enclosure
[00:15] <DF3D2> CompuTronix, this is an HDD enclosure right, not a usb flash stick
[00:16] <CompuTronix> DF3D2: Correct. You're saying the circuitboard is fried?
[00:16] <DF3D2> MarGul, like this: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[00:16] <DF3D2> CompuTronix, i'm not saying it, i'm assuming it's a possibility
[00:16] <adamu> Meris, Try using unetbootin to create the bootable usb drive
[00:16] <DF3D2> the actual Hdd could be fucked too
[00:16] <DF3D2> CompuTronix, can you take it out of the enclosure and plug it in via sata
[00:16] <Meris> adamu, does unetbootin support gpt/ UEFI?
[00:16] <CompuTronix> DF3D2: I can crack the enclosure, how do you recommend I plug in via SATA?
[00:16] <Beldar> Meris, Format the usb flash to a not gpt table fat32 then use the Startup Disk Creator. You can use gparted to change the table and make a new partition.
[00:17] <adamu> Meris, I have no idea
[00:17] <Meris> Beldar, a non gpt-table won't be recognized on UEFI motherboards.
[00:17] <adamu> Meris, I am not familiar with UEFI but unetbootin is good for creating bootable USB drives
[00:17] <DF3D2> CompuTronix, srsly ?
[00:18] <Djinnei> yo dawg, so how do I run an executable from the commandline in ubuntu? I tried 'run minderd'; 'run ./minerd'; '/minderd'; /run minerd etccccccc
[00:18] <adamu> UEFI just seems like a major headache :/ hopefully one I can avoid (at least for a few years)
[00:18] <DF3D2> CompuTronix, HDD < sata wire > mobo
[00:18] <DF3D2> Djinnei, ./exec
[00:18] <adamu> Djinnei, chmod +x minerd && ./minerd
[00:18] <DF3D2> Djinnei, ./program
[00:18] <CompuTronix> DF3D2: Not familiar with low-level hardware. Please elaborate.
[00:18] <adamu> Djinnei, chmod +x to give it executable permissions
[00:19] <MarGul> DF3D2: Okey cool, im in my xorg.conf.d dir right now. (the google how to specify a specific device in xorg didnt really do it for me) Where would I specify my graphic card?
[00:19] <Beldar> Meris, Ubuntu has a efi boot
[00:19] <technickul> Beldar: oh gosh another efier lol
[00:19] <DF3D2> CompuTronix, hold on
[00:19] <technickul> Beldar: I'll be on later so I might be able to help now lol
[00:20] <adamu> technickul, Your laptop working good now?
[00:20] <DF3D2> CompuTronix, http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ixtreme.net/attachments/off-topic/5680d1350515070-liteon-ihas-124b-install-sata-connections.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ixtreme.net/off-topic/31782-liteon-ihas-124b-install.html&h=287&w=400&sz=39&tbnid=CLpW5WJm-EnFcM:&tbnh=96&tbnw=134&zoom=1&usg=__tlk9wY1Vsz9r8W5k_CtKat5yYSI=&docid=kcajsHa9AShE4M&sa=X&ei=pgylUo6yM_KwsQT9soH4BQ&ved=0CE8Q9QEwBA
[00:20] <Meris> technickul, well, I'd appreciate help with UEFI
[00:20] <technickul> adamu mostly just having issues with battery and fan occasionaly
[00:20] <adamu> technickul, thats good
[00:20] <Beldar> Meris, So what is the end goal here?
[00:20] <DF3D2> MarGul, sec
[00:20] <technickul> Meris: I'm going grocery shopping right now i"ll be on in about an hour I'll be back :)
[00:21] <adamu> cya :)
[00:21] <MarGul> DF3D2: Think I found one
[00:21] <technickul> adamu: sorta good I just don't want anything to happen to my battery
[00:21] <daftykins> Meris: i've heard that unetbootin can break UEFI boot capability when making up a flash drive
[00:21] <technickul> see ya
[00:21] <adamu> technickul, oh
[00:21] <CompuTronix> DF3D2: Thanks for that. Recommending I crack open HDD enclosure AND laptop enclosure and plug HDD directly into mobo?
[00:21] <Meris> Beldar, the end goal is to install Ubuntu as dual-boot with Win8.1 on my Vaio Pro 13
[00:21] <DF3D2> CompuTronix, laptop enclosure ?
[00:22] <CompuTronix> DF3D2: "computer" I've been referring to is a laptop. To access mobo I would have to open 'er up.
[00:22] <Beldar> Meris, Cool then you need a msdos fat32 on  the usb at first then figure the install correctly.
[00:23] <DF3D2> CompuTronix, that presents a problem since the external hd is likely 3.5" and laptops take 2.5"
[00:23] <DF3D2> no desktops ?
[00:23] <Beldar> Meris, I would make sure to have the recory drive made in windows 8 and a full cloned backup as well.
[00:23] <MarGul> DF3D2: I find this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics , but it says that its a good thing and that the laptop will switch to the dedicated GPU when I watch movies, play games etc and just use the integrated one for applications to save energy. Dont know if I want to disable it
[00:23] <DF3D2> MarGul, dont disable it then
[00:23] <DF3D2> dnt realize u hd a hybrid i thought u had 2 devices
[00:23] <DF3D2> I didn't*
[00:24] <profligacy> Is Ubuntu lightweight?
[00:24] <DF3D2> I know 0 about hybrids, I hear they are problems
[00:24] <DF3D2> profligacy, xubuntu is
[00:24] <adamu> profligacy, its software it doesn't weigh anything :{
[00:24] <Meris> Beldar, there is already a FAT32 partition on my USB stick. The main drive is gpt-formatted though, so it won't be recognized in legacy mode.
[00:24] <Beldar> profligacy, depends on your definition of lightweight
[00:24] <adamu> profligacy, The server install can be pretty light weight
[00:25] <Beldar> Meris, You are misunderstanding, ubuntu has a efi boot that will read the HD, you can't load the ubuntu iso to a gpt is all.
[00:25] <k1l_> profligacy: take a look at lubuntu
[00:25] <profligacy> What's Xbuntu?
[00:25] <MarGul> DF3D2: To be honest with you I dont know if I have hybrid actually. It was just a qualified guess to why I have one integrated and one dedicated one hehe
[00:25] <k1l_> !lubuntu | profligacy
[00:25] <DF3D2> MarGul, u could google the model #s
[00:26] <DF3D2> and the laptop model #
[00:26] <Meris> profligacy, I use Lubuntu (openbox/ LXDE) . You can't get much lighter than that
[00:26] <profligacy> Meris: k1l_ Thanks.
[00:26] <adamu> tinycore linux is the smallest distro I know of (12mb)
[00:26] <Beldar> Meris, At not least with the app you are doing it with and a gpt table on the usb is not needed to install
[00:27] <DF3D2> adamu, geez what is that a core and a tty
[00:27] <DF3D2> kernel and a tty
[00:27] <CompuTronix> DF3D2: Thanks for the help. Signing off.
[00:27] <CompuTronix> !quit
[00:27] <DF3D2> yep CompuTronix take care
[00:27] <adamu> DF3D2, its got a light weight desktop and package manager but yeah thats about it
[00:27] <Djinnei>  thanks DF3D2 and adamu
[00:27] <DF3D2> adamu, wow it has a window manager at 12mb ?
[00:27] <adamu> Djinnei, NP
[00:27] <Meris> Beldar, actually the first step is to make a bitwise copy of my restore partition that came with this laptop, using dd.
[00:27] <adamu> DF3D2, 12mb compressed :/
[00:28] <MarGul> DF3D2: yeah thats what I'm doing now and my laptop does use hybrid so this wont solve my problem. Going to try and install chrome and see how flash works there. A little bit worried that my fan spins out of control when using flash player. Use youtube a lot
[00:28] <adamu> DF3D2, might be more once you burn it to the CD
[00:28] <Beldar> Meris, I would not dd myself, but carry on.
[00:28] <Meris> Beldar, well, after having started the Live image of Ubuntu that is.
[00:28] <DF3D2> MarGul, that is odd, I can use flash and my laptop never gets over 45c
[00:28] <DF3D2> fan never gets loud
[00:29] <DF3D2> MarGul, i'd install lm-sensors and check ur temps
[00:29] <Beldar> Meris, windows has a built in imager, I use it or clonezilla myself.
[00:29] <Meris> Beldar, what would you use to make a bitwise copy of a restore partition then? (It's NTFS formatted and Sony propriatary)
[00:29] <Beldar> Meris, Use the windows imager and do the whole HD
[00:30] <adamu> Meris, you could also try just installing ubuntu and running windows in a VM
[00:30] <DF3D2> Meris, I always just use dd
[00:30] <Meris> Beldar, ehm, no, that won't fit, I don't have 256GB to spare.
[00:30] <Beldar> adamu, a oem wont go to a vm.
[00:30] <DF3D2> but Meris use clonezilla then it can do just the files u have
[00:30] <Beldar> Meris, ah, not fully prepared, hmm a common theme here, good luck. ;)
[00:31] <DF3D2> and still restore just like it was a dd image
[00:31] <adamu> Beldar, I meant get rid of Windows install Ubuntu then use windows license to run in vm
[00:31] <Meris> Beldar, aye to that, alas...
[00:31] <Beldar> adamu, Would not let the oem key run in a vm, they would have to buy another.
[00:31] <MarGul> DF3D2: I have jupiter installed and my regular temps is like 50C but when I run flash player for long it gets warmer(60-70c). Maybe I have to try and clean out my laptop again(just did it 1 week ago)
[00:31] <DF3D2> MarGul, did you use air and blow the vents out?
[00:31] <Meris> Beldar, the restore partition is only a measly 4GB. It makes no sense to make an image of the entire HDD
[00:31] <DF3D2> how old is it ?
[00:32] <adamu> Beldar, really? I did that with mine and it worked :/
[00:32] <Beldar> Meris, That being you could trigger the restore partition.
[00:32] <DF3D2> Meris, if you have disk space it makes perfect sense I do it all the time
[00:32] <Beldar> adamu, A oem, what release?
[00:33] <MarGul> DF3D2: yes, i did not remove my mother board to get it extra clean (didnt dare to do that) but I maybe gonna have to
[00:34] <adamu> Beldar, Windows 7 License that shipped with my laptop... maybe hardware virtualization support being enabled in bios has something to do with it?
[00:34] <bekks> MarGul: Try using google chrome, not chromium, and ensure that you are using PepperFlash, not Adobe Flash.
[00:34] <MarGul> The motherboard is in the way to get a complete clean. To afraid to break my laptop though, poor student and I would die without a computer haha
[00:34] <DF3D2> MarGul, if it is super old might need new thermal paste
[00:34] <adamu> MarGul, Also HTML5 youtube works well
[00:35] <Meris> DF3D2, Clonezilla eh?, hmm, does that also work on NTFS volumes? neat...
[00:35] <MarGul> DF3D2: about 2 years old so shouldnt need that. But I might gonna have to do all that
[00:35] <Beldar> adamu, I have not heard of this working MS has specifics about this and programs to prevent it with a OEM install. I would just say just because you claims it works, do not advise people to do it here, they would throw you off the ##windows channel if you advised it there.
[00:36] <DF3D2> MarGul, hmm 2 years, you never know it could be crusty
[00:36] <adamu> Beldar, alright sounds good
[00:36] <DF3D2> MarGul, thats why I always write my temps down when I get a laptop, that way I know if the paste needs changed
[00:37] <DF3D2> I just got this one, max temp i've seen has been 53c (max is 105c for ivy bridge) but I wouldn't wanna go over 80c
[00:37] <Beldar> adamu, I mean really if there is a stipulation that allows this just be sure you know it and include it in advising is all. ;)
[00:37] <MarGul> DF3D2: Yeah I really should do all this stuff but like I said, a bit afraid of breaking it because I have never done that on a laptop before. Yeah writing down temps is smart
[00:37] <DF3D2> MarGul, yeah, laptops can be hard
[00:38] <DF3D2> MarGul, what processor you got?
[00:38] <MarGul> adamu: how do I know if I use HTML5 when I'm using youtube? Pretty sure I will try out google chrome and see if that solves my problem
[00:38] <MarGul> DF3D2: Intel i 5 2,4 Ghz quad
[00:38] <DF3D2> MarGul, flash is a piece of crap anyway, necessary though I know.
[00:38] <adamu> MarGul, try this http://www.youtube.com/html5
[00:39] <DF3D2> MarGul, im guessing it is sandy bridge based
[00:39] <DF3D2> then
[00:39] <adamu> DF3D2, Yeah I am ready for flash to die :p
[00:39] <MarGul> adamu: thanks, set it up for HTML5 now. See if I expirence any difference
[00:40] <adamu> MarGul, np
[00:40] <DF3D2> adamu, flash is why I had to stop using freebsd
[00:40] <DF3D2> I could never get it to work
[00:41] <DF3D2> adamu, I think everyone except adobe wants it to die
[00:41] <adamu> DF3D2, ahh the BSDs are fun.. I really like OpenBSD.. my problem was NVIDIA Graphics and Intel Wireless so now I just run it on servers :P
[00:41] <DF3D2> adamu, Same!
[00:41] <DF3D2> I have it on a server my self
[00:41] <Beldar> Meris, You can get the oem reinstall discs from the manufacture, I did that on a new purchase myself. On all the upgrades from that I was sure to get the ISO's and discs of them, so you have several options to just ensure you have Windows backed up sp to speak.
[00:42] <Meris> DF3D2, I know plenty of designers that claim that HTML5 doesn't provide a good alternative to flash yet. so many features are missing.
[00:42] <Beldar> so*
[00:42] <DF3D2> adamu, this new laptop nothing worked right on freebsd
[00:42] <DF3D2> everything works on ubuntu. I had to do a bit of work to get some of it to work, but didn't take long... wifi + ethernet + function keys +sd card+touch screen all work on xubuntu 13
[00:42] <Meris> Beldar, I contacted Sony about those OEM disks, they would not send them, even if I paid them.
[00:43] <adamu> DF3D2, yeah I love the PF firewall with IPTables sometimes I think the developers were trying to see how annoying they could make the configuration syntax for it :/
[00:43] <Meris> adamu, pf rules
[00:44] <Beldar> Meris, really, I'm surprised, what was their excuse? I would climb their managerial ladder till I got them myself.
[00:44] <MarGul> DF3D2: Got temp at 80c when I use flash now. This is bad
[00:44] <DF3D2> adamu, the other problem with freebsd is the support -- the people in the irc channel expect you to have a comp science degree, and they just keep saying read the manual even when you have followed it to a T and stuff doesn't work. I did get EXCELLENT support from the guy who handles some of the wifi stuff via email though..... I just had to stop using it too many problems.
[00:44] <DF3D2> MarGul, that is bad
[00:45] <DF3D2> adamu, for server use it is great, desktop use it's not good at all imo. Maybe pc-bsd is better, I never actually tried it I couldn't wait to get back on linux lol.
[00:45] <MarGul> My CPU % is just at around 10-20% so I dont get it. Probably need to clean it out better.
[00:45] <DF3D2> MarGul, I remember having a laptop where flash made it hot as satans ass
[00:45] <Meris> Beldar, they claimed that they had significantly altered Win8 in order to optimize it for the Vaio. The "optimizing" seemed to go further than simple .inf tweaks
[00:45] <DF3D2> MarGul, that was awhile ago though
[00:45] <bekks> MarGul: Then look at "top" to see why.
[00:46] <DF3D2> Meris, win8 is terrible, 8.1 is pretty good.
[00:46] <bekks> MarGul: Cleaning your fan will not change the CPU consumption.
[00:46] <Beldar> Meris, That makes no sense as far as selling you a oem disc set specified for that install.
[00:47] <Beldar> Meris, Is this a W8 to W8.1 upgrade and you asked for the W8.1 set?
[00:47] <MarGul> bekks: no I get that but it should hopefully stop my fan from spinning out of control (which is prob what generates the heat because its not CPU consumtion). Hopefully chrome solves this problem for me
[00:47] <Meris> Beldar, I couldn't agree more, but Sony seems more than a bit headstrong when it comes to that.
[00:47] <Payton> Hi, I wanted to know how to uninstall ubuntu from my PC, I am using dual boot
[00:48] <bekks> MarGul: It will not. Investigate why you CPU is constantly at 10-20%. Everything else will not solve your issue.
[00:48] <Beldar> Meris, did you get my last question?
[00:48] <adamu> DF3D2, yeah its more for server use and in that regard it does it job well IMO
[00:49] <MarGul> bekks: its not constantly at 10-20%. When I dont use any heavy apps its not that much. But I just mean that when I run flash if it was to be my CPU consumption I should see like 100% in CPU but I see low numbers even though my fan spins like crazy
[00:49] <Meris> Beldar, no I didn't, sorry about that. I asked them for either Win8 or Win81 (preferrably the last one). They refused bluntly.
[00:49] <bekks> MarGul: Then use a more recent flash implementation rather than that old, meanwhile unsupported, flash 11.2
[00:50] <bekks> MarGul: Use the PepperFlash plugin shipped with chrome.
[00:50] <MarGul> bekks: Yes thats what I'm going to try now :)
[00:50] <joossee> is there a way to bridge to 100mbit connections to the same network into a single 200mbit connection in ubuntu 12.04?
[00:50] <joossee> ..two 100mbit connections...
[00:50] <Payton> Hi, I wanted to know how to uninstall ubuntu from my PC, I am using dual boot I want to know how so I wont have any problems later
[00:51] <Beldar> Meris, Ah, like I said I would climb their management ladder till I got a legit excuse. Or just get a external that would hold the full back up anyway, but that is me.
[00:51] <joossee> payton; easiest way is to reinstall windows
[00:51] <Beldar> Payton, Uninstall, and have what left?
[00:51] <adamu> I've been running flash and silverlight in pipelight and it has worked well
[00:51] <bekks> joossee: Nonsense, honestly.
[00:51] <daftykins> Beldar: dualboot part was a clue
[00:51] <Payton> Beldar: joossee I am using dual boot so I have both windows and ubuntu..
[00:52] <Payton> xD
[00:52] <Beldar> Payton, What windows release?
[00:52] <Payton> Beldar: 8, I don't want 8.1 :P
[00:52] <bekks> Payton: Start Windows, have a Windows CD handy, delete the Ubuntu partition, shutdown Windows, boot the Windows CD, repait the boot environment, done.
[00:52] <joossee> bekks, ok well i figures the boot manager is above his pay grade but w/e.. let him rewrite his MBR
[00:52] <Payton> I'm using SD :P
[00:52] <Payton> And it works fine
[00:53] <Beldar> Payton, Go to ##windows and have them tell set you up on the correct windows boot using the windows boot laoder, then wipe ubuntu.
[00:53] <joossee> bekks, oh allright thatll do...
[00:53] <Payton> Beldar: Glad you told me what to do, but how is my question
[00:53] <bekks> Payton: your question has been answered.
[00:54] <Beldar> Payton, There is no specific un-install and with a uefi grub is been inserted in it is all.
[00:54] <Meris> DF3D2, I tried booting from USB using both Legacy and UEFI mode, using mbr part. table and Fat32 partition. On Legacy mode the screen shows "Operating System Not Found", on UEFI, it tells me that the disk cannot be booted from (yes, I have secure boot set to off)
[00:54] <adamu> Payton, how is it unrelated? because to remove ubuntu you need to windows stuff :P (and some of us don't touch windows with a 10ft make it 12ft pole)
[00:55] <Payton> bekks: I don't have a windows CD, it was pre installed.
[00:55] <Beldar> Payton, I would be sure you have the windows boot menu before you wipe ubuntu is all.
[00:56] <Payton> bekks: And I'm using an SD not a disk, and it works fine
[00:56] <Beldar> Payton, You can do this with the windows recovery drive you should have made already in windows.
[00:56] <bekks> Payton: You need a windows cd to repair your windows boot environment. But thats not a topic in here.
[00:57] <Payton> bekks: Like  I said, it was pre installed and I don't have a CD.
[00:57] <bekks> Payton: Nonetheless, you need one.
[00:57] <adamu> Payton, if you installed with the install alongside of windows option and your still using the windows bootloader not grub you can actually remove ubuntu in add or remove programs :/
[00:58] <adamu> Payton, It for get what its called I think its wubi?
[00:58] <Beldar> adamu, That would be a wubi removal.
[00:58] <joossee> Payton, or you may have a rescue partition already on the drive, at which point you should be able to just choose that and do a repair, then you can reclaim the HD space that ubuntu took by repartitioning it.
[00:58] <Payton> adamu: And that would recover all lost memory, right?
[00:58] <adamu> Payton, I'm not sure I think it would if you installed with wubi and used wubi removeal
[00:59] <adamu> Payton, I think a better question is why would you ever want to get rid of Ubuntu :P
[00:59] <Beldar> Payton, You installed ubuntu in a partition right? If so that is not a wubi install.
[00:59] <Payton> Wait I could create a restore pont to return to right?
[00:59] <Payton> point*
[01:00] <v0latil3> hello. i have windows 7 and ubuntu 13.10 dual boot. i was wondering if it is possible to run MS office with wine with my existing install in windows 7. like could i mount my windows partition and run it from there somehow?
[01:01] <joossee> is there a good package for analyzing and enumerating your network for ubuntu?
[01:01] <Beldar> Payton, How did you install ubuntu?
[01:01] <adamu> v0latil3, no that doesn't really work well
[01:01] <adamu> v0latil3, just use libreoffice and export as pdf when your done
[01:01] <v0latil3> i am asking about outlook
[01:01] <Meris> adamu, installing unetbootin does not succeed on my desktop. I get an error about a leaked pipe during lvs invocation.
[01:01] <v0latil3> thunderbird doesnt work with exchange
[01:01] <Payton> Beldar: I partitioned it / = 12GB swap = 8GB the rest is in /home
[01:02] <adamu> v0latil3, oh well in that case maybe you could just use owa instead?
[01:02] <v0latil3> i guess i could do that
[01:03] <Beldar> Payton, Then that is a standard install, make the recovery drive in W8 you need that no matter what. Are you using the grub menu to boot windows as of now?
[01:03] <Meris> adamu, the error message is partially in Japanese. I have reported it using the error reporter.
[01:03] <adamu> Meris, well your in luck I speak some japanese :P
[01:03] <Payton> Beldar: I don't know what the grub menu is, remember I am new to ubuntu
[01:03] <Payton> ..
[01:04] <nts7jst4bt1> I wonder here is any metaspliot tutorials?
[01:04] <Beldar> adamu, Please be careful what you advise Payton's install was not a wubi, and you git then interested in your post which was wrong, this gets things confused here.
[01:04] <Meris> adamu, me too and I figured you did, because your nick translates perfectly into katakana :-)
[01:04] <adamu> Meris, yeah :)
[01:04] <yeats> v0latil3: you might experiment with evolution - it may have better exchange support
[01:04] <adamu> Beldar, okay ill ask before I advise :/
[01:05] <Beldar> Payton the grub menu looks nothing like a windows menu to start with. If you had a windows only boot you would see no menu, do you see one as of now that has a choice of ubuntu and or windows?
[01:05] <Meris> adamu, would you like to read the error in a pastebin?
[01:05] <Payton> Beldar: Yes a menu saying to boot windows or the SD card (G:)
[01:06] <adamu> Meris, I'll try :/
[01:06] <Beldar> adamu, Just be sure what you advise is correct is all.
[01:06] <Beldar> Payton, sd card? no ubuntu notation?
[01:06] <Payton> Beldar: Nope, and on the SD it works fine. :)
[01:07] <Beldar> Payton, what works fine?
[01:07] <adamu> Beldar, okay I didn't know if he used wubi so I was just saying if he used wubi he could do that but yeah next time I'll ask if they used wubi before I say anything..
[01:07] <Payton> Beldar: Booting from the SD
[01:07] <Meris> adamu, here you are, it's a curious mix of Dutch, English and Japanese (mostly katana though): http://paste.ubuntu.com/6543695/
[01:07] <Beldar> Payton, Heh, what is on the ssd ubuntu?
[01:08] <Payton> Beldar: Not ssd, SD. and yes i have the ISO on there
[01:08] <adamu> Meris,  I can never tell the difference between katakana n and so :P
[01:09] <Beldar> Payton, my sd meant ssd a typo, so lets ask again on theis boot menu the ssd is the ubuntu install.
[01:09] <Meris> adamu, well, when you write them down, they have a different stroke order. so has a smaller angle between the strokes than n
[01:10] <Payton> Beldar: I can't understand what you just said, sorry
[01:10] <Beldar> Payton, You have a boot menu it says windows or ssd right?
[01:10] <Meris> adamu, here you are: ソン (son)
[01:11] <Payton> Beldar: Windows and SD, not ssd! xD
[01:11] <adamu> Meris, yeah I'm not sure what it says :/ but thanks!
[01:11] <Beldar> Payton, okay then you said SD works what is it, where does it lead you and what OS is it.
[01:12] <Payton> Beldar: It leads me to ubuntu of course :P
[01:12] <Meris> adamu, ah, you have no support for Japanese installed? Sorry about that then. I didn't want to confuse you.
[01:12] <adamu> Meris, no I meant the pastebin I can't read the pastebin japanese
[01:13] <Beldar> Payton, Cool, so can you make a recovery drive in windows? This is a small disc for repairs and needed to reset the windows boot to just it and other uses?
[01:13] <noemie> 12.04 alternate  fails to install at select and install packages
[01:13] <noemie> wtf
[01:14] <Payton> Beldar: how would I do that?
[01:14] <Payton> Beldar: You mean restore point?
[01:15] <Beldar> Payton, MS has links to this, no it is not a restore point it is this. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/create-usb-recovery-drive
[01:16] <Meris> adamu, but I can ;-) subproces "インストール済みの post-installation スクリプト" roughly translates to: "The completion of the post install script" (...) returned an error value of 1
[01:16] <Payton> Oh god no
[01:16] <Beldar> Payton, It is a bootble disc or usb to make repairs and load images and other repairs.
[01:16] <Payton> I'm not reseting windows
[01:16] <Payton> And I only have 2GB SD
[01:16] <Payton> ...
[01:16] <Beldar> Payton, Read the link it is not a rest.
[01:16] <noemie> seems this is another typical linux bug
[01:17] <adamu> Meris, what is that kanji?
[01:17] <noemie> they desperately need bsd coders
[01:17] <Beldar> Payton, Can I ask how old you are?
[01:17] <Payton> Beldar: Yes, 15.
[01:17] <Payton> Beldar: I don't have a USB xD
[01:17] <Meris> adamu, 済み means completion in this context.
[01:18] <adamu> Meris, okay thanks I only know like 5 kanji :/
[01:18] <Beldar> Payton, Ah, just wondered as we are having some problems with understanding some things here. What you need to make is this disc or usb to repair the windows boot so you can wipe ubuntu and have windows boot.
[01:19] <Payton> Beldar: So like a virtual disc?
[01:19] <stamoulis> hi there, i am set to autologin and my keyring password is the same as my account password, yet it still promots me. please help :)
[01:19] <Beldar> Payton, this is a small disc or usb at the most about 300mb, not a virtual persay, a bootable repair setup
[01:20] <Meris> adamu, try http://taw.chaosforge.org/jrpg/ ,it's written in Python, so it even runs on my ARM-based OpenPandora
[01:20] <Payton> Beldar: So I would need a actual disc or USB?
[01:20] <Payton> :o
[01:20] <Beldar> Payton, yes
[01:20] <Payton> Beldar, I only have an SD..
[01:20] <Beldar> Payton, and sd is?
[01:20] <adamu> Meris, Nice thanks I'll try compiling it now :)
[01:20] <Payton> Beldar, SD card
[01:21] <Beldar> Payton, same one that ubuntu is on?
[01:21] <adamu> Meris, well wait its in python then I probably don't need to compile it :P
[01:21] <Meris> adamu, you don't have to compile it.
[01:21] <Payton> Beldar: Yes
[01:21] <Meris> adamu, right, you just need the proper libs, like PyGame
[01:21] <Beldar> Payton, this plugged in externally?
[01:21] <Payton> Beldar: http://blog.frankvh.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/sd-card.jpeg :P
[01:22] <Beldar> Payton, turn the computer off remove the sd and start it and it should boot to windows if this is the case wipe the sd.
[01:23] <Payton> Beldar: So just boot from SD when it is inserted ? :)
[01:23] <Payton> Or wipe the SD..
[01:23] <Beldar> Payton, No boot without the sd inserted
[01:23] <Payton> Wait, the files for ubuntu will still be on my HDD
[01:24] <adamu> Meris, Darn it I need python 2.4 :/ I'll have to try it later when I have some time to set it up
[01:24] <Beldar> Payton, That is fine I want to see if windows will just boot without the sd.
[01:24] <Meris> adamu, I run Python 2.67. Runs without a hitch
[01:25] <Payton> Beldar: I meant unintall completly.
[01:25] <Payton> :P
[01:25] <Payton> Curse my spelling
[01:25] <uBUXUBu> does chromium run better than FF in ubuntu 1204?
[01:25] <Beldar> Payton, can you just see if windows boots with the sd inserted?
[01:25] <Payton> uBUXUBu: I think it does but we have opinions
[01:25] <Beldar> Payton, without sorry
[01:25] <Payton> Beldar: Sure let me get my ubuntu PC
[01:25] <adamu> Meris, Oh I installed pygame and then it doesn't seem to be working and I am getting a message about requiring python 2.4 :/
[01:26] <uBUXUBu> my ff seems a bit...slow
[01:26] <Meris> uBUXUBu, it depends. It usually feels snappier, but I can't live without my NoScript and AdBlock
[01:26] <Payton> uBUXUBu: Get cromium then
[01:26] <adamu> Meris, Oh its because I installed 32bit pygame with 64bit python :/
[01:26] <Beldar> Payton, Please stay on just the topic of your request we are far beyond a normal fix here.
[01:26] <uBUXUBu> do i need  no script in ubuntu?
[01:26] <uBUXUBu> im never root anyway
[01:27] <Payton> Beldar: It skips the GRUB menu when the SD is not inserted :)
[01:27] <adamu> uBUXUBu, noscript firefox addon? yeah its good helps to stop XSS attacks
[01:27] <uBUXUBu> does it slow ff down
[01:27] <Beldar> Payton, and does it go straight to windows?
[01:27] <Meris> uBUXUBu, neither am I, but Javascript can do some pretty nasty things. It can be both a boon and a curse
[01:28] <uBUXUBu> hmm i guess im not aware of any attacks
[01:28] <uBUXUBu> on buntu
[01:28] <uBUXUBu> reboot and all gone right?
[01:28] <adamu> uBUXUBu, XSS, CSRF are all really bad IMO
[01:28] <uBUXUBu> i run what can they do to my OS?
[01:29] <Payton> Beldar: Yes
[01:29] <uBUXUBu> what can xss and csrf do to my computer?
[01:29] <adamu> uBUXUBu, they can exploit the browser to gain code execution on your system then they can try to escalate privileges, XSS can lead to session hijacking CSRF Token Stealing and alot of other bad stuff
[01:29] <Meris> uBUXUBu, normally you don't notice them, but they can steal personal data for instance or they can trugger a Javascript based know vulnarability in your browser. Lot's of vulnaribilities in browser occur in the JavaScript engine
[01:30] <Meris> trugger => trigger
[01:30] <uBUXUBu> wow even in ubuntu
[01:30] <Beldar> Payton, ah, well then it seems you ahve a windows boot without grub that's good. I would remove the sd card boot to windows and wipe the ubuntu install from there with its disk manager and the sd to, and use the sd card for the recovery media.
[01:30] <uBUXUBu> i have it set to store nothing and run ff in private only
[01:30] <gordonjcp> uBUXUBu: the OS you're running isn't relevant
[01:30] <uBUXUBu> then when done i run terminal apt get autoremove
[01:30] <gordonjcp> uBUXUBu: it's more down to badly-designed websites
[01:30] <uBUXUBu> wow
[01:30] <Payton> Beldar: So uninstall from list of programs?
[01:30] <Payton> :D
[01:31] <uBUXUBu> how do i know if i have them now
[01:31] <adamu> uBUXUBu, yeah a lot of programmers don't know about CSRF and XSS is just hard to prevent when you have input being displayed a lot of places
[01:31] <Beldar> Payton, ubuntu should not be in the list of programs if you put it in a partition.
[01:31] <Payton> Thanks, I just needed to know, But i would never uninstall ubuntu :P
[01:31] <uBUXUBu> i suppose i could uninstall FF and reinstall it once in awhile
[01:31] <adamu> uBUXUBu, no you should be fine the point is no script is good to have :/
[01:32] <uBUXUBu> yeah ill turn that one on
[01:32] <Beldar> Payton, THanks for a complete waste of time your going to ignore where you belong.
[01:32] <Meris> uBUXUBu, you would have to purge FF, including your personal profile in ~/.mozilla/firefox in order to get rid of everything *that is limited to FF*
[01:32] <uBUXUBu> sheesh
[01:32] <Payton> No need to be rude, Beldar
[01:33] <Payton> Beldar: I just wanted to know incase somthing ever hapened..
[01:33] <Beldar> Payton, That was a ridiculous set of posts due to your lack of knowledge, don't waste our time here
[01:34] <adamu> uBUXUBu, Security isn't about being bullet proof its more about layers like an onion :P Generally linux is not targeted by browser exploit packs though but thats just more security through obscurity which isn't security at all
[01:34] <Payton> Hey, no need to be like that, Beldar...
[01:34] <Meris> uBUXUBu, Firefox has access to your file tree and if it contains vulnerabilities that can be exploited within Gecko, the attacker can access your filetree using your normal user rights.
[01:34] <uBUXUBu> whoah
[01:35] <Payton> Beldar: I just wanted to know how so i could go back to windows if i needed, making it worth the time
[01:35] <uBUXUBu> its nice too see buntu is using both my core salmost equally
[01:35]  * Beldar would rather deal with kindergärtners they have  better communication and higher cognitive skills, lol.
[01:35] <uBUXUBu> almost*
[01:36] <adamu> uBUXUBu, I suppose if you really wanted too you could chain together a firefox memory corruption vulnerability and a linux kernel exploit and get root access :P
[01:36] <Payton> Beldar, so lets all be friends here and set that to the side :)
[01:36] <uBUXUBu> i cant imagine that adam_
[01:36] <uBUXUBu> adamu
[01:36] <adamu> uBUXUBu, its most certainly possible
[01:37] <uBUXUBu> this 12.04 is so smooth on my optiplex its amazing i can hear anything running
[01:37] <Meris> uBUXUBu, try reading the release info of Firefox versions, especially those marked in Red (Critical)
[01:37] <uBUXUBu> no tick tick tickcant*
[01:37] <uBUXUBu> its like it doesnt even run the cpu
[01:37] <adamu> That would actually be a fun weekend project chain a firefox exploit and a linux kernel exploit together :P
[01:38] <adamu> then brute force local router password (assuming default credentials are used and portforward and install openssh :P)
[01:39] <uBUXUBu> i think ill turn a dell into a hardware firewall
[01:39] <adamu> uBUXUBu, thats always fun I recommend pfsense for that
[01:39] <uBUXUBu> maybe that will make things a lil tougher on exploits
[01:39] <Meris> adamu, any router that does not lock out external IP addresses after six or so password retries i not worth it's salt imho.
[01:40] <Meris> i => is
[01:40] <Beldar> !ot | Meris adam_
[01:40] <adamu> Meris, no once you know have code executing on the system (locally) then brute force from inside
[01:40] <uBUXUBu> wish i knew how guess ill read up on it
[01:40] <Beldar> adamu, ^^^^^^^^^^
[01:40] <adamu> Beldar, lol okay :/
[01:40] <Beldar> take your chat to pm
[01:41] <Meris> Beldar, alright, we'll take that kind of discussions to ubuntu-offtopic or PM.
[01:42] <Meris> adamu, care to join me in a PM session about learning Japanese?
[01:42] <adamu> Meris, sure :/
[01:45] <vladdinstaller> anyone had problems with 32bit audio?
[01:45] <tavistock> how do i get 16 bit arch programs to work in 13.10
[01:46] <tavistock> ie mit-scheme
[01:49] <KLVTZ> Could anyone help me with the following problem? http://askubuntu.com/questions/388060/unity-launcher-resets-on-reboot-and-unity-tweak-tool-no-longer-working-ubuntu-1
[01:50] <Andril> hello all
[01:50] <Andril> anyone using Ubuntu with 6 or more GB of ram?
[01:50] <Meris> Andril, yes, I have 8GB, why?
[01:52] <Andril> ok Meris, do you notice the difference? I want to add Ubuntu to my Dell 14z-5423
[01:52] <technickul> Meris: I'm back have you figured out your issue?
[01:52] <adamu> technickul, welcome back
[01:52] <technickul> adamu: :)
[01:52] <packy^> gedit won't shutdown normally, you have to kill <processnumber> any ideas?
[01:53] <packy^> doesn't matter if i start from a terminal of application menu
[01:53] <packy^> or
[01:53] <jmgk> hi packy^
[01:53] <packy^> hi jmgk
[01:55] <Meris> technickul, I'm afraid not, still no booting Ubuntu on my lappy. Which is strange, because Unibeast (a Hackintosh installer) boots without a hitch.
[01:56] <Andril> Which laptop Meris?
[01:56] <boggle> Issue with key-mapping on new keyboard. Any advice would be greatly appreciated: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=QUT0hXG1
[01:57] <technickul> Hmm so what's your setup again? Raid no raid? uefi? Dual boot windows? which version of windows?
[01:57] <Meris> Andril, a Sony Vaio Pro 13
[01:57] <Meris> technickul, I'm using a Sony Vaio Pro with an SSD containing Windows 8.1 and a pesky restore partition.
[01:58] <technickul> Meris: uefi right?
[01:58] <Andril> Meris, very nice what error do you have I had one when trying to install on my laptop too but someone helped a while back
[01:58] <technickul> Meris: I'd recommend keeping the recovery if you ever plan on going back to restore or if you think yu might sell the laptop in a couple years
[01:58] <Andril> hey technikul :)
[01:59] <technickul> Hey Andril :)
[01:59] <Andril> I may need you knowledge later :)
[01:59] <Meris> technickul, yes, I have every intention of keeping that restore partitiion, but before I resize the main partition and install Ubuntu on it, I want to have a dependable copy of that restore partition.
[02:00] <technickul> Is anyone familiar with kernal updates and how it adds to the grub menu?
[02:00] <technickul> Andril: sounds good :)
[02:01] <technickul> Meris oh you're saying you want to copy the restore partition just in case?
[02:02] <Meris> technickul, that's right. I don't dare to do that from within Windows 8.1 lest that restore partition has some safeguards against copying from within the Sony custom made version of Windows 8
[02:03] <technickul> Meris: gotcha I guess I just made sure to not mess with the recover partition when I did my install
[02:03] <daftykins> Meris: there'll be Sony utilities to backup the recovery.
[02:04] <technickul> Meris: my install process was boot to iwindows shrink OS partition so I could add ubuntu to it. Load Ubuntu installer create swap and ext4 partition and then install ubuntu
[02:04] <Meris> technickul, probably, but I want to have them first, because I want to perform any restore activitities on *my* schedule, not Sony's.
[02:04] <syntax_> Hi. I am currently attempting to install wireshark and am getting the following output: "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages". I looked in synaptic and it doesn't appear that I have any broken packages. I tried google'ing but couldn't find any answers. I was wondering if someone here could help me troubleshoot the issue.
[02:05] <Meris> technickul, iWindows?
[02:05] <technickul> Meris sorry windows
[02:05] <technickul> I have windows 8.1
[02:05] <adamu> syntax_, try removing the package apt-get remove wireshark
[02:06] <Meris> technickul, I also have Windows 8,.1
[02:06] <syntax_> adamu, its not currently installed.
[02:06] <adamu> syntax_, oh
[02:06] <adamu> syntax_, I see
[02:07] <adamu> syntax_, try installing it using apt-get?
[02:07] <Meris> technickul, how did you start the Ubuntu installer?
[02:07] <technickul> Meris: I booted to my flash drive which contained ubuntu
[02:07] <technickul> Meris: I think you mention you had uefi?
[02:07] <Meris> technickul, that's what I 'm trying to do. Yes, I have UEFI.
[02:08] <syntax_> adamu, this is the output I get: http://pastebin.com/rRBPT32A
[02:08] <syntax_> adamu, when I run apt-get
[02:08] <technickul> Meris: did you download the 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[02:08] <Meris> technickul, of course, the 64Bit Desktop version.
[02:08] <technickul> So you're not able to get to in the ubuntu installer?
[02:09] <adamu> syntax_, this may be helpful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[02:09] <Beldar> syntax_, what does this command show lsb_release -a
[02:11] <Meris> technickul, no, it just won't start "Operating System Not Found" when booting from legacy mode and a simple boot screen telling me that my lappy could not find any suitable boot media when booting in UEFI mode.
[02:11] <syntax_> Beldar, http://pastebin.com/cC2LT7R5
[02:11] <technickul> Meris: have you disabled secure boot?
[02:11] <syntax_> adamu, thank you... I will take a look at that.
[02:12] <Beldar> Meris, you might look through this thread, you have looked at the uefi wiki? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[02:12] <adamu> syntax_, np
[02:12] <Meris> technickul, of course, that's the first thing I did and before you ask, in the Boot menu I enabled booting from external device and set the first boot device to external device
[02:12] <adamu> syntax_, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[02:13] <syntax_> 13.04
[02:13] <syntax_> Lubuntu
[02:13] <Meris> Beldar, thanks for the link!
[02:13] <technickul> Meris: have you checked the hash of the iso you downloaded and the hash from where ever it was downloaded to make sure they are identical? Also how did you create the usb? I use something called universal usb installer
[02:14] <Meris> technickul, I used the "Create Startup Disk" from Ubuntu itself to create the startup disk. I run Ubuntu 12.04 64 on my main system,
[02:16] <technickul> Meris: I don't have any experience with that
[02:16] <Beldar> Meris, this a 12.04.3 release?
[02:16] <Meris> technickul, mind you, I have used a SD-card, not a USB stick. that should not cause difficulties, because both the USB3 ports and the SD-Card reader are on the same bus.
[02:17] <technickul> Meris: yea I agree shouldn't be any differen't
[02:18] <technickul> have you tried using usb though just to be sure?
[02:18] <noemie> select and install software with alternate is where it breaks
[02:18] <noemie> anyway to get past this?
[02:18] <syntax_> adamu, no luck with that link, but thanks
[02:18] <boggle> Issue with key-mapping on new keyboard. Any advice would be greatly appreciated: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=QUT0hXG1
[02:18] <adamu> syntax_, np what version of ubuntu are you running?
[02:18] <Meris> technickul, silly as that may sound I don't have a USB stick of suitable size handy right now.
[02:18] <syntax_> adamu, 13.04 Lubuntu
[02:19] <technickul> Meris: hmmm not sure what else
[02:19] <Meris> !version
[02:20] <Beldar> Meris, The iso is only about 700MB, and is this 12.04.3 earlier 12.04 I don't believe had all the uefi stuff needed.
[02:20] <Meris> Beldar, yes, I run 12.04.3 LTS
[02:21] <Beldar> Meris, You have read the uefi wiki? And looked at the ubuntu link fully?
[02:21] <Meris> Beldar, so if I boot from a LiveCD of let's say 13.10 and create the USB device from there it might work?
[02:21] <Beldar> ubuntu forum link*
[02:21] <g0nz0w> is this the right place to ask for help with peppermint os?
[02:22] <Beldar> Meris, I have not followed all your posts, so not sure what is up.
[02:22] <g0nz0w> or perhaps I should ask if I can get assistance with netflix installation
[02:22] <Stanley00> !alis | g0nz0w
[02:22] <Beldar> g0nz0w, Nope not supported here.
[02:23] <Meris> Beldar, I did not apply boot-repair to my USB device yet. Sony is known to be very fickle when it comes to specs, so that might do the trick.
[02:23] <Beldar> Meris, bootrepair to the usb?
[02:24] <Meris> Beldar, yes, if I read correctly: "You will also need Boot-Repair for several work arounds for Vendor UEFI issues and grub bugs."
[02:24] <Beldar> Meris, THis the gpt usb and a assumed fix with bootrepair?
[02:25] <Beldar> Meris, Bootrepair is for fixing installs
[02:25] <Meris> Beldar, ah, if only got that far :-/
[02:26] <adamu> lol
[02:27] <kriskropd> how can I tell what the total size of an unpacked tar file would be?
[02:27] <Beldar> Meris, So have you throughly looked through the uefi wiki and that ubuntu forum link I gave you and removed the gpt table from the usb, three questions here.
[02:27] <Meris> Beldar, "In your BIOS, disable QuickBoot/FastBoot and Intel Smart Response Technology (SRT). If you have Windows8, also disable FastStartup." <= these options don't appear in my UEFI Setup. Probably "courtesy" of Sony...
[02:28] <Vedrit> Hey iceroot or usr13, either of you on?
[02:28] <Beldar> Meris, Have you looked at the ubuntu forums link, it is there that it becomes obvious that the manufacturers have their own versions of uefi.
[02:29] <Meris> Beldar, I've read the Forums link and as expressed before, Sony is quite fickle and they even admitted that their UEFI setup limits the user.
[02:31] <Meris> Beldar, I have removed my gpt part. table and reinstalled a MBR-type partition table. I am reading the UEFI Wiki right now.
[02:32] <Beldar> Meris, Sony is the Goliath you are Sampson, the monster does not clue you in on how to beat them, that is your job. My point here is that it can be done, however the method may not be exactly as described in any of this links.
[02:34] <Meris> Beldar, I might try setting a supervisor password as described in the Acer example, that just "might" unhide some critical options.
[02:34] <daftykins> Meris: i sincerely doubt it.
[02:34] <Beldar> Meris, Do you have full access to thew bios or is it locked?
[02:34] <hurley> q
[02:35] <Jebus> can I have the same registered nick on two different computers
[02:35] <Beldar> Jebus, yes
[02:35] <Jebus> thank you Beldar
[02:36] <tripelb> what is a standard simple torrent program for 12.04  -- looks like transmission doesnt go that new.
[02:36] <tripelb> jebus, irc doesnt care about what computer you are on.
[02:37] <Meris> Beldar, I see a BIOS menu, but it is stunted when compared to the Intel reference BIOS. Sony support even admits that. I demanded a full manual on their BIOS and they refused again. My statement was as follows: when I buy your hardware I expect to become the *owner* of that said hardware, including any and all information to use that hardware the way *I* see fit to do.
[02:37] <tripelb> jebus, but freenode does care about security and if you are on a network they deem insecure, like a mobile phone wifi, then it will make you useSASL for security.
[02:37] <Meris> Beldar, that was my last Sony if they keep up with this BS.
[02:38] <daftykins> Meris: you can always take it back.
[02:38] <Beldar> Meris, You looked on the web for the manual?
[02:38] <fixmypc956> i created some directories and I want them to be shareable on the network. What command do I run to do that?
[02:39] <Meris> daftykins, I'm afraid I can't the month return period has already expired because of a repair to the fan >sic<
[02:39] <daftykins> Meris: can you take pictures of each page of what *is* there in the BIOS / link to pictures of the same one online?
[02:40] <Meris> daftykins, sure, I'll just whip out my samrtphone, just a sec...
[02:40] <daftykins> Meris: i worked on a Lenovo recently which needed a boot option set to 'UEFI' changed to 'Legacy' - though that one did have 'Secure Boot' and Fast boot too
[02:41] <daftykins> so it could be as you say, that Sony have really crippled that system for users
[02:41] <daftykins> ugh i'm running out of battery is the only thing
[02:41] <Meris> daftykins, if that would be the case, I could have bought a Windows RT instead (not that I *ever* would)
[02:42] <daftykins> what's the one you did get? a normal laptop? sorry i kind of came in late on this one
[02:42] <adamu> fixmypc956, you could setup an anonymous ftp server with vsftpd
[02:43] <fixmypc956> I setup mediatomb on my server and I want to setup separate directories for movies and music
[02:45] <mgorbach> Very strange. How come sometimes I see logging from upstart on TTY7, and sometimes it's completely empty?
[02:47] <bonhoeffer> goodness -- i made a live cd, but can't boot from it
[02:47] <bonhoeffer> get purple screen then some boot menu
[02:48] <bonhoeffer> it is actually a usb drive that i dd'd the latest ubuntu to
[02:48] <bonhoeffer> yeah -- initramfs
[02:49] <cfhowlett> bonhoeffer, dd doesn't create the bootable environment.  try unebootin or startupdiskcreator
[02:50] <Meris> daftykins, here's the first BIOS page: http://www.imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=15928
[02:50] <bonhoeffer> on mac?
[02:51] <Meris> daftykins, here's the 2nd page: http://www.imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=15929
[02:51] <fixmypc956> how do I make a folder shareable on the local network?
[02:51] <bonhoeffer> Meris, http://www.webupd8.org/2009/04/4-ways-to-create-bootable-live-usb.html
[02:51] <Beldar> Meris, I will say though that your the first person I have seen on this channel with specific sony problems ever, and I am here many hours a day and for a long time, it seems statically unlikely this is a sony only problem.
[02:52] <Meris> daftykins, here's the 2nd page: http://www.imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=15930
[02:52] <bonhoeffer> i tried -- i'm moving to windows
[02:53] <Meris> daftykins, heres's the last one: http://www.imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=15931
[02:53] <daftykins> Meris: ah good so you have secure boot off already
[02:54] <daftykins> Meris: so your 12.04.3 USB boot drive isn't working, is that the issue?
[02:54] <Meris> Beldar, I don't think this Sony specific, no. More likely Aptio AMI is at the root of these problems.
[02:54] <Beldar> Meris, heh, not to pick at you but I suspect user skills. ;)
[02:55] <Meris> daftykins, well, the image it contains is a 64bit Ubuntu 13.10 ISO, but yes, it was made on Ubuntu 12.04.3
[02:55] <daftykins> Beldar: did you help create a more conventional Ubuntu USB flash drive?
[02:55] <daftykins> oh i see
[02:55] <Meris> Beldar, that may be, but I'm using Linux since 1997
[02:55] <daftykins> Meris: so the system is just ignoring it, so far?
[02:55] <daftykins> is that the issue?
[02:56] <Meris> daftykins, that's what it boils down to, yes.
[02:56] <Beldar> Meris, Cool, well long term use can get a person used to a norm that changes that is hard to follow or figure out.
[02:56] <daftykins> Meris: i'm not sure if it's a VAIO Pro 13 you have but the number looks similar - take a look at this thread - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2183114
[02:57] <daftykins> Meris: the user in the thread above disables "Intel AT support system" which was on your second BIOS page
[02:57] <Meris> daftykins, it is, it's exactly the same system
[02:57] <Beldar> Meris, Anyway hope you get this resolved.
[02:59] <Meris> Beldar, me too, especially since it's already 4:00 AM here and I need to rise at 8:00 AM T_T
[03:00] <Meris> daftykins, also with Intel AT Support System off: OPerating System not found...
[03:00] <daftykins> Meris: it may be worth retrying making your flash drive up, i think
[03:01] <daftykins> anyway my battery's gone so i have to run! good luck though
[03:01] <adamu> daftykins, bye
[03:01] <Meris> daftykins, thanks for all the useful links.
[03:01] <Meris> daftykins, and your optimism especially :-)
[03:04] <Meris> Beldar, next step for me will be to get a USB flash drive of suitable size (8GB) and try the whole procedure again...
[03:04] <noemie> here is the problem with 12.04 alternate...
[03:05] <noemie> when one goes and creates partitions, by default it will show   say 20 GB  that is, 20 space GB
[03:05] <noemie> that is what screws the entire install
[03:05] <azzid> hello!
[03:05] <cfhowlett> azzid, greetingss
[03:06] <azzid> ;)
[03:06] <noemie> one must change that to 20GB if they wanted a 20GB partition
[03:06] <Meris> Beldar, thanks for all the hints and links. I'm hitting the hay. 4 hours of sleep is already tight before a working day...
[03:06] <azzid> hi cfhowlett: I'm in the quest for making my ath 9462 work on 13.10
[03:06] <syeekick> http://itsfoss.com/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-13-10/
[03:06] <syeekick> if i were to follow every command in that tutorial would it be safe?
[03:07] <cfhowlett> azzid, ask in the channel with details.  Sorry, I'm still on 12.04 - LTS only so probably can't offer much help here.
[03:07] <syeekick> th emost scariest one is the first one. Could someone tell me if its safe/reccommended :) thanks
[03:07] <azzid> cfhowlett: ok, thanks
[03:08] <cfhowlett> syeekick, no way we can answer that as we don't know your capabilities or experience.  If you're unsure - don't.
[03:08] <syeekick> ok thanks
[03:09] <dcfhh> whats the default size for ubuntu 64 bit?
[03:09] <azzid> I've just installed 13.10 and I have 2 problems, one is intel hd graaphics not working but I've manged to acpi=off while I fix the problem nº 2: wifi, I have a atheros 9462 wireless card, but iwconfig only shows l0 and eht0 with no wireless extensions, no wlan at all... any suggestions??
[03:09] <dcfhh> 12.04
[03:10] <cfhowlett> dcfhh, the ISO or the installation?
[03:10] <dcfhh> installation
[03:10] <cfhowlett> dcfhh, should be about 8 gigs IIRC
[03:10] <dcfhh> since i got it on a 10 gb partition and its taking up 7gb (barebones)
[03:10] <dcfhh> o
[03:10] <cfhowlett> dcfhh, sounds legit
[03:11] <dcfhh> kk cool thanks man
[03:11] <cfhowlett> dcfhh, have fun, be safe
[03:12] <v0latil3> is mir usable at all now?
[03:12] <cfhowlett> v0latil3, makes a good beta
[03:13] <dcfhh> i wrap my willy, no need to worry ;)
[03:13] <cfhowlett> dcfhh, TMI TMI TMI!
[03:13] <mgorbach> How come sometimes I see logging from upstart on TTY7, and sometimes it's completely empty?
[03:13] <mgorbach> Seems to work about 30% of the time on each reboot of this server machine.
[03:14] <dcfhh> xD you said "have fun, be safe"
[03:14] <v0latil3> cfhowlett, are there any programs that do not work in it?
[03:14] <cfhowlett> v0latil3, I've not used it, but considering that it WILL NOT be deployed before 14.10 - it's beta.  Take your chances.
[03:15] <azzid> I've just installed 13.10 and I have 2 problems, one is intel hd graaphics not working but I've manged to acpi=off while I fix the problem nº 2: wifi, I have a atheros 9462 wireless card, but iwconfig only shows l0 and eht0 with no wireless extensions, no wlan at all... any suggestions??
[03:16] <dcfhh> azzid look for drivers?
[03:16] <technickul> Is it in general better to run an lts build? I'm debating if running 13.10 is worth it? I don't even know what the beenfits of running 13.10 vs 12.04 are
[03:16] <dcfhh> have you tried?
[03:16] <dcfhh> 12.04 is better ;)
[03:17] <technickul> dcfhh: but why?
[03:17] <jrib> technickul: if you want more recent software (not 2 years old) and don't mind upgrading every 6 months then run 13.10
[03:17] <cfhowlett> technickul, matter of perspective and need.  some need the latest greatest shiny stuff.  some need long-term stability.
[03:17] <technickul> Gotcha! well that makes sense
[03:17] <technickul> I'll probbaly stay with 13.10 then lol
[03:17] <azzid> dcfhh: at the moment of installation, when ubuntu ask for network, It worked just fine
[03:17] <cfhowlett> technec, if your a developer, you might need the most current ...
[03:18] <cfhowlett> *you're*
[03:18] <technickul> In geneeral do 13.04 drivers work for 13.10?
[03:18] <technickul> cfhowlett: indeed I am a developer
[03:18] <ccolbert> quick install Q ... I'm trying to install alongside Windows7 and while I get the option the "Continue" button is greyed out
[03:18] <cfhowlett> technickul, here's a possibility: maintain your base machine in LTS and install the latest build in virtualbox
[03:19] <technickul> Interesting
[03:20] <cfhowlett> technickul, that's how I do the occasional bit of distro testing
[03:20] <ccolbert> ... it's actually greyed out for "alongside" as well as "something else" and only becomes active if I select "replace" (which I'm *not* looking to do)
[03:21] <Beldar> ccolbert, Can you run sudo fdsik -l in the terminal and pastbein it
[03:22] <ccolbert> i'm chatting on my permanent PC while trying to install on a side PC so ... no?
[03:22] <Beldar> ccolbert, well open gparted and see if you see 4 primary partitions
[03:22] <cfhowlett> ccolbert, I'm guessing *guessing* some kind of UEFI issue.
[03:23] <ccolbert> also, sorry in advance for being so dumb about all this
[03:23] <cfhowlett> ccolbert, no need to apologize.  t'is only  a mystery to be solved.
[03:23] <Beldar> ccolbert, And get on the irc from that computer if you can, as we will need pastebins most likely.
[03:23] <ccolbert> I saw "UEFI" listed in some of the Q&A on the website but have no idea what that means
[03:23] <cfhowlett> !uefi
[03:24] <technickul> I just did an install on uefi
[03:24] <ccolbert> how do I get on IRC w/out having installed first?
[03:25] <Beldar> ccolbert, You can do it from a web browser
[03:25] <cfhowlett> ccolbert, IRC can be accessed via several internet based options ... install not required
[03:27] <Highest5> Anyone here willing to help me out?
[03:27] <ccolbert> again, sorry for my ignorance, but if i'm in windows and able to get to a browser to chat, I can't grab the pastebins ... and if i'm in ubuntu, I haven't installed yet to get to a browser
[03:27] <cfhowlett> !details|Highest5,
[03:28] <cfhowlett> ccolbert, http://webchat.freenode.net/
[03:29] <Beldar> ccolbert, Personally I wont help without exacting info from that computer, you are at best new to linux you stated as such, I wont guees and assume from your answers.
[03:29] <Beldar> guess*
[03:29] <ccolbert> yes, totally new
[03:30] <ccolbert> so, i'll quit the install and tell it i just want to "try" it from the USB, then I'll go to that link for freenode and continue the convo from there?
[03:30] <cfhowlett> ccolbert, sounds like a plan!
[03:30] <Highest5> I have a problem with installing Iron Browser. I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04 32-bit. When I try and run it, it doesn't run.  I expected it to run. I checked the forums on the Iron Browser download page and there was a command for the 64-bit version that apparently made it work.
[03:30] <ccolbert> now I feel like a moron, that was easy enough
[03:31] <cfhowlett> ccolbert, sorry, but I OWN moron based on my initial ubuntu/windows installation debacles
[03:31] <Beldar> Highest5, 3rd party not supported nor does it run in ubuntu anymore.
[03:31] <Highest5> Is that a new thing?
[03:32] <Beldar> on a good day I'm not a moron
[03:32] <Beldar> Highest5, Is what a new thing, use nicks here too.
[03:32] <ccolbert_> ... and we're back
[03:33] <ccolbert> exit
[03:33] <cfhowlett> Highest5, best to get support from IB directly
[03:33] <ccolbert_> so, what do I need to type and paste?
[03:33] <Highest5> Beldar, thanks. I'll see what I can find.
[03:33] <Beldar> ccolbert_ sudo fdisk -l
[03:34] <Beldar> !pastebin | ccolbert_
[03:34] <ccolbert_> i know there's some sort of keystroke to get that dos-looking window up to type that into, right?
[03:35] <Beldar> ccolbert_, ctrl-alt-t
[03:35] <cfhowlett> ccolbert_, you mean "terminal" :)
[03:35] <ccolbert_> tonight will be a lesson in humility for me ;)
[03:35] <MissValeska> I need help with an ethernet issue, eth0 is not detected by ifconfig, And is not even shown by the network manager.
[03:35] <adamu> :P
[03:36] <MissValeska> ifconfig -a does not work either
[03:36] <macs> does ubuntu have a built in javascript engine?
[03:36] <ccolbert_> ok, getting there ... how do I copy the results to be able to paste them for you?
[03:37] <Beldar> ccolbert_, http://imagebin.org/?page=add also look for bot prompts I sent you one on this.
[03:37] <ccolbert_> !pastebinit
[03:38] <ccolbert_> i pulled up that page, but how do i paste the terminal output into it?
[03:38] <Beldar> ccolbert_, Sory wrong paste imagebin
[03:38] <Beldar> ccolbert_, http://paste.ubuntu.com
[03:39] <macs> does ubuntu have a built in javascript engine?
[03:40] <Beldar> !java | macs
[03:40] <macs> Beldar: ... "javascript"
[03:40] <adamu> macs, it comes with firefox if that is what you mean
[03:40] <macs> adamu: ok i guess that does it then
[03:40] <macs> adamu: thanks
[03:41] <Beldar> macs, I was going to send you a patience prompt, but I hoped yo0u could figure it out.
[03:41] <adamu> macs, it is called SpiderMonkey
[03:41] <ccolbert_> http://imagebin.org/281272
[03:41] <adamu> macs, (the engine used by firefox)
[03:41] <ccolbert_> beldar, you get that screenshot?
[03:42] <macs> adamu: thanks. I don't think I have a specific need for that right now but i was just curious
[03:42] <adamu> macs, okay
[03:43] <Beldar> ccolbert_, yes, generally we want the data in a pastebin not the picture, however it looks like you have just 3 primary partitions, I'm surprised you had no install alongside button working. This a W7 manufacturers install?
[03:44] <adamu> macs, if you want to know how it works this is a good reference https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/SpiderMonkey/Internals
[03:44] <MissValeska> I need help with an ethernet issue, eth0 is not detected by ifconfig, And is not even shown by the network manager.
[03:44] <MissValeska> ifconfig -a does not work either
[03:44] <ccolbert_> it's been awhile with this particular computer so I'm not certain
[03:44] <Tyrantelf> MissValeska: your ethernet card driver isn't installed
[03:45] <macs> adamu: thanks
[03:45] <MissValeska> okay, How do I fix that then?
[03:45] <MissValeska> I tried installing them
[03:45] <ccolbert_> and i'd be happy to provide just the data but couldn't figure out how to 'copy'
[03:45] <Tyrantelf> what happened?
[03:45] <Tyrantelf> when you tried to install them
[03:46] <MissValeska> I downloaded the realtek drivers, And I installed them, and eth0 appeared
[03:46] <MissValeska> And then I restarted
[03:46] <MissValeska> And it went away
[03:46] <MissValeska> I installed the realtek driver package after that from the sources
[03:46] <MissValeska> And it didn't change anything
[03:47] <Beldar> ccolbert_,  A single HD can only have 4 primary partitions or 3 which you have and a extended partition to contain logical partitions, ubuntu generally installs two partitions the OS and a swap, so that maybe why you got no alongside. I would suggest you use the W7 disk manager to resize the C to make a unallocated space for the ubuntu install, reboot windows then so it run s the auto chkdsk the n boot to
[03:47] <Beldar>  the ubuntu live and we can get you installed.
[03:47] <Demios171> I got real problem with installing wifi on Ubuntu 13.04?
[03:48] <Beldar> Demios171, Can you identify the wifi hardware by running lspci in a terminal?
[03:48] <ccolbert_> great, i'll give it a shot! as an alternative, it looks like I could simply run ubuntu from the USB stick whenever I want to and never even bother with an install?
[03:48] <fixmypc956> how do I change share permission on a directory
[03:49] <Beldar> ccolbert_, The live works yes, however without a persistent it will not save what you do, and a persistent usb has limitations.
[03:50] <ccolbert_> beldar, real quick, so when i go back to W7, am I asking it to remove one of my 3 existing partitions?
[03:50] <Beldar> ccolbert_, You might try it out from the usb though to be sure you want an install.
[03:51] <Beldar> ccolbert_, No removal just a resize to leave an unallocated space.
[03:51] <ccolbert_> beldar, perhaps you can help with that ... i'm doing this b/c I've just installed it as the *sole* OS on another home laptop and figured it would be better/esaier to communicate with that from here if I have the same OS here as well ... is my logic flawed?
[03:51] <adamu> well I have to go cya :)
[03:52] <Beldar> ccolbert_, Communicate from one computer to another?
[03:52] <ccolbert_> access files
[03:53] <Beldar> ccolbert_, ubuntu and windows can talk to each other from separate computers, or to the same OS.
[03:53] <ccolbert_> i'm thinking of making the other PC (call it PC1) a laptop for the kids and this one (call it PC2) a glorified backup PC and backup harddrive
[03:54] <ccolbert_> our external harddrive just died so I'm uber sensitive at the moment to have some redundancy in place
[03:55] <ccolbert_> but you're saing I can keep PC2 windows-based since it's already installed and working properly even if PC1 is Ubuntu-only and I shouldn't have any communication/sharing issues?
[03:55] <Beldar> ccolbert_, You want backup for sure, depending on what it is backed up it is likely you can save the ubuntu stuff on pc1 to windows pc2
[03:55] <ccolbert_> though perhaps PC1 (this slow POS) may run smoother if I were using Ubuntu in lieu of Windows ......
[03:56] <Beldar> ccolbert_, So pc1 is windows pc2 is ubuntu?
[03:56] <ccolbert_> sure, let's go with that
[03:56] <cfhowlett> Beldar, how much storage capacity do you need?  I save my data files in ubuntu one : 5 gigs free.  Also another 12 in dropbox for work and I'm set...
[03:57] <Beldar> yeah a cloud might be workable
[03:57] <ccolbert_> the names aren't as important as it is that I *only* have Ubuntu on 1 of them due to a major HD crash where the home-office mandated encryption left me OS-less
[03:58] <ccolbert_> rather than running out to buy Windows (since HP doesn't seem to provide the OS on disk when you purchase a computer with it pre-installed anymore)
[03:59] <ccolbert_> figured it's a great opportunity to learn the OS that's running the world (seriously ... NASA uses linux boxes to launch the shuttle ...... oh, poor shuttle)
[04:00] <Beldar> ccolbert_, Most manufacturers will let you but the oem reinstall discs, so just saying.
[04:00] <cfhowlett> ccolbert_, another thing to consider: lubuntu is optimized for older/slower machines.  xubuntu works pretty well too.  you might find better performance than the latest ubuntu gives you.
[04:00] <Beldar> ccolbert_, And you can image any OS, but learning linux is a good idea and using it in general.
[04:00] <Vyse007> well linux boxes are used where performance  and efficiency are demanded, so that's not surprising...
[04:01] <ccolbert_> i assume you meant "buy" ... but I'm cheap and don't want to pay $35+ for an OS that was preinstalled on a $1K+ computer ... it's the principal of the matter
[04:01] <ccolbert_> as far as imaging the OS, i'd have no idea how to do that
[04:01] <Beldar> ccolbert_, I have principals but apply them to tangibles/
[04:02] <ccolbert_> though I could probably google-search it in the same amount of time it took me to become reaquainted (sp?) with IRC   ;)
[04:02] <tonyt> plenty of free apps out there that will image your OS for you and put the back up onto another drive
[04:02] <Genesis_> Wondering how to upgrade from wubi to a full out ubuntu install
[04:03] <ccolbert_> i'm pretty sure i was doing IRC nearly 2 decades ago ... and it doesn't look to have changed a bit
[04:03] <buu> ccolbert_: We try not to!
[04:03] <tonyt> on the irc server has changed :)
[04:03] <tonyt> freenode didnt exist 20 years ago
[04:03] <Beldar> Genesis_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi then upgrade the OS if that is what you mean.
[04:03] <Vyse007> Genesis_, you mean porting the wubi install to a full install?
[04:03] <ccolbert_> anyway, i'll leave you guys to what you do best ... thanks for everything, and I'll surely be back if I run into any further snags
[04:07] <Genesis_> Yes.
[04:10] <Vyse007> Genesis_, follow the tutorial that Beldar gave the link to. Its actually pretty easy if you know what you are doing. But have a backup of your data (in the Wubi install) just to be safe.
[04:10] <Genesis_> Many thanks.
[04:11] <Vyse007> No problem. Try it out and let us know if you get stuck.
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> how come apt-cache search (from terminal) find the package 'winusb' and the !info trigger doesnt?
[04:22] <Eisroman> a
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> !find winusb
[04:24] <Eisroman> how i could register my user?
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> !register | Eisroman
[04:24] <trism> lotuspsychje: what is: apt-cache policy winusb;
[04:25] <joe__> Can someone please help me?
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> trism: installed: 1.0.11+precise1
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> !ask | joe__
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> trism: you think it shows because i've installed it already?
[04:26] <trism> lotuspsychje: was more interested in where it was coming from later in the output
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> holdon
[04:26] <joe__> Can someone tell me why I cannot boot from a usb drive?  I created a bootable drive using unebootin.  When I put it in my computer and change to boot from usb the screen goes black.
[04:27] <joe__> It was saying operating system missing.
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> trism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6544112/
[04:27] <usr13> joe__: Try agin.
[04:27] <Vyse007> joe__: Is that the exact error message?
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> joe__: did you change BIOS boot order to usb?
[04:27] <trism> lotuspsychje: manually installed, so might be leftover from a ppa
[04:28] <joe__> Yes
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> trism: ive installed the package manually with a .deb not adding ppa
[04:28] <trism> lotuspsychje: ahh then there you go
[04:28] <joe__> but now the screen just goes black and displays a SR in the upper left corner
[04:29] <joe__> lotuspsychje_ Yes I did
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> trism: does apt-cache hold installed deb files?
[04:30] <usr13> joe__: Read "How to create a bootable USB stick" http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-desktop-long-term-support (under the apropriate OS).
[04:30] <Vyse007> joe__: Could be a bunch of reasons. For starters, is the ISO file error-free? Do a md5 check to make sure. Also, try using the USB stick on some other machine. That will make sure where the fault lies.
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> joe__: did you try F12 to enter boot order and choose usb stick?
[04:30] <joe__> Okay.  How do I test the iso file for errors?
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> !md5 | joe__
[04:30] <HERI> malam
[04:31] <HERI> siang
[04:31] <usr13> joe__: Yes run a checksum on the ISO and google it.  md5sum
[04:31] <joe__> Lotuspsychejd, yes, I changed the boot order.
[04:31] <joe__> Okay.  Thanks
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> joe__: probably something went wrong burning the iso on your stick with unetbooting
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> joe__: try what usr13 suggested you
[04:32] <Vyse007> Check the ISO first
[04:32] <usr13> joe__: What OS are you using to create the USB?
[04:32] <joe__> usr13, ubuntu 12.04
[04:33] <Vyse007> If I am not wrong, isn't USB booting supported only on FAT32 systems?
[04:33] <usr13> joe__: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[04:33] <joe__> I did that to the best of my ability usr13
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> joe__: are you not in windows trying to create the 12.04 usb?
[04:33] <joe__> Yes.  using 8.1 wins
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> thought so
[04:34] <usr13> joe__: Oh, I thought you said Ubuntu. Sorry.
[04:35] <joe__> I'm sorry, I'm loading unbuntu onto a usb with a computer running wins 8
[04:35]  * lotuspsychje thinks ubuntu community should find an easy way to make users burn ubuntu stick from windows
[04:35] <usr13> joe__: See:  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[04:35] <joe__> Did that usr13
[04:36] <Vyse007> lotuspsychje: Back when I was using puppy linux, the community made this awesome tool to do a frugal install of Puppy to a USB stick on Windows, packaged as a nice .exe file.
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> Vyse007: remember packagename?
[04:37] <usr13> joe__: Did you Download Pen Drive Linux's USB Installer?
[04:37] <joe__> Yes, I have tried that one and unebootin
[04:37] <Vyse007> lotuspsychje: Hold on let me go through my HDD. Although I doubt it would work for other distros...
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> Vyse007: i found the reverse tool 'winusb' to create an win7+ stick from ubuntu..
[04:38] <usr13> joe__: And it says "Operating System Not Found"?
[04:38] <usr13> joe__: Try another computer, see if it boots.
[04:38] <joe__> operating system missing
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> joe__: are you very sure its not your internal HD that boots first?
[04:38] <usr13> joe__: Sorry "operating system missing" Ok
[04:39] <joe__> I am changing to boot from usb in bios.
[04:39] <joe__> I have tried it like 15 times
[04:39] <usr13> joe__: Maybe it is a bad thumd dirve?
[04:40] <Vyse007> lotuspsychje: the winusb tool is kinda poorly made imho
[04:40] <joe__> Have tried it on two seperate thumbs
[04:40] <joe__> same result
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> Vyse007: i dont know any other tools to make a win7 bootable from ubuntu yet
[04:40] <usr13> joe__: ...But you'd think the USB installer application would error out if it was a bad USB stick...
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> joe__: does F12 show the name of your usb hardware?
[04:41] <joe__> ya, the configuration and loading to the stick seems to be fine.
[04:41] <joe__> no.  It just says USB storage stick
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> joe__: that a good thing
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> joe__: i think something went wrong during unetbooting creating
[04:42] <usr13> joe__: Do you have another computer to try it on?
[04:42] <joe__> I also tried with linu usb installer
[04:42] <joe__> Yes.
[04:42] <usr13> joe__: You tried it on another computer and wouldn't boot?
[04:42] <Vyse007> joe__: Are you sure the usb disk was properly formatted? The forums report of people having the same problem solved by reformatting the drives.
[04:43] <joe__> I have reformatted two different thumbs, multiple times.
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> usr13: can he burn the iso from the ubuntu liveDVD with ubuntu boot creator tool?
[04:43] <joe__> I will try it on another computer tomorrow
[04:44] <usr13> joe__: Yea vfat...., well I think the install application will re-write the filesystem on the thumb drive... I really don't think it's a problem with wrong filesystem, not sure but...
[04:44] <joe__>  I formatted in fat32
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> joe__: got a dvd drive to burn?
[04:44] <usr13> lotuspsychje: I think so, yes... But if he has a Ubuntu install DVD, why not just install from it?
[04:44] <v0latil3> hey anyone have a kepler gpu? i have a gtx650. i think the hardware h264 encoding is awesome, but cant find any programs that will utilize the hardware. encodes 1080p h264 and 240 fps. WOW so FAST.
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> usr13: true :p
[04:44] <v0latil3> does anyone know of an app that can use it?
[04:44] <joe__> no dvd drive
[04:45] <usr13> joe__: Oh, ok.  That's out.
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> v0latil3: you need video encoding software?
[04:45] <usr13> joe__: I just think something is going wrong in the process somehow.  Not sure what it could be...
[04:46] <joe__> Ill run the test tomorrow and try it on another pc.  Thanks for the help all.
[04:46] <usr13> !eufi
[04:46] <usr13> !uefi
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> joe__: what machine brand you have?
[04:46] <joe__> Gateway
[04:47] <usr13> I don't suppose it could be a UEFI issue... could it?
[04:47] <joe__> What is uefi issue?
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> usr13: dont think so, but worth a try to doublecheck
[04:47] <Vyse007> usr13: I doubt that. I have a UEFI machine too, but I never had problems with booting on it.
[04:47] <usr13> ok... well, I dono
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> joe__: default Os on the machine is win8?
[04:48] <Vyse007> But occasionally ran into troubles installing distros on it..
[04:48] <joe__> no the machine I'm trying to load on is XP
[04:48] <v0latil3> lotuspsychje, yes.
[04:48] <joe__> I made the usb drive on a wins 8 pc.
[04:48] <v0latil3> lotuspsychje, i was looking for one that uses the nvidia kepler h.264 hardware encoding specifically
[04:49] <usr13> joe__: Will it do pixi?
[04:49] <joe__> What's that?
[04:49] <v0latil3> network booting i think
[04:49] <joe__> I don't know
[04:52] <Vyse007> joe__: Did you ever try booting off a stick before? Or is this the first time?
[04:54] <usr13> pxe not pixi
[04:54] <usr13> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[04:55] <usr13> did joe__ leave us?
[04:56] <Sebastien> Quits: joe__ (6cd7ea6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.215.234.110) (Quit: Page closed)
[04:56] <Sebastien> yes usr13, he did.
[04:56] <deezed> usr13: I ghes so
[04:56] <Vyse007> connection problem, maybe?
[04:56] <deezed> *guess
[04:56] <Vyse007> Or just too frustrated, lol.
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> cant he still use wubi for 12.04?
[04:56] <usr13> Slackware has a built-in pxe server on the install DVD  Ubuntu doesn't do that yet?  Or do they?
[04:57] <randolph`> test
[04:57] <Vyse007> afaik ubuntu doesnt do that
[04:57] <usr13> All I can find is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[04:57] <Vyse007> though it would be awesome if it did
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> !wubi | Joe_B
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> oops
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> he left
[04:59] <Vyse007> Wubi is incompatible with UEFI? didnt know that..
[04:59]  * cfhowlett thinks everytime someone mentions "wubi" an angel gets the chills.
[04:59] <usr13> Vyse007: Yes, it works like a charm.  I did one not long ago on an old laptop that would not boot USB and had no CDROM drive.  I booted into the PXE server from a slackware DVD on another laptop but after it booted, I installed from the USB stick anyway, (booted over the network but installed the actual OS from the USB). Pretty easy.
[05:00] <Vyse007> usr13: Oh yes its a charm. Arch has that functionality too I think...
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: well if other tools fail..
[05:00] <Vyse007> y'all don't start dissing wubi now..
[05:00] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, true.
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> they should invent an easy tool to create ubuntu= more win users to easy step to ubuntu
[05:02] <Vyse007> they are trying man, believe me.
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> but i think MS doesnt like the sound of that
[05:02] <Nehal> Hi. I'm trying Xubuntu 13.10. I'm getting a segmentation fault in my Xorg.0.log file with the radeon_drv.so driver. I have a dmesg and Xorg log file. Can someone help me out please?
[05:02] <usr13> Yea, keep it down.... ;)
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:03] <usr13> Nehal: Pastebinit
[05:03] <Vyse007> Nehal: Pastebin the file
[05:03] <Nehal> OK. Give me a sec.
[05:03] <usr13> !pastebinit | Nehal
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | usr13 Vyse007
[05:04] <Jonbo> | isn't here
[05:04] <usr13> Nehal: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> im out guys working time cheerz
[05:04] <Vyse007> lotuspsychje: Lol thanks mate
[05:04] <Gandalf__> 'allo everybody I have a terrible problem that makes me cry
[05:05] <Vyse007> lotuspsychje: Enjoy your work!
[05:05] <usr13> Thank you Jonbo  :)
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> smeagol will help you here :p
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> Vyse007: tnx!
[05:05] <Vyse007> lol
[05:05] <Sebastien> wubi is not working right with the lts? (on windows 8 laptop) i keep getting errors.
[05:05] <usr13> Gandalf__: Whatsamatter?
[05:05] <Vyse007> nice LOTR references
[05:05] <Gandalf__> I bought a Lenovo Desktop with Windows 8 pre-installed... As you can imagine I am running into the worst issues when trying to install 12.04 on it...
[05:05] <Jonbo> o.o
[05:06] <usr13> Enter sandman
[05:06] <Nehal> Xorg.0.log, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6544224/
[05:06] <Gandalf__> I have so far tried, an install from DVD, a WUBI install, and no matter what I do I can't get it to work
[05:06] <Nehal> dmesg, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6544230/
[05:06] <Nehal> usr13, Vyse007: please see those two links
[05:06] <Vyse007> !register
[05:06] <cfhowlett> Gandalf, virtualbox
[05:06] <Gandalf__> I get the Windows Boot manager and it shows Windows 8 and Ubuntu, but when I click Ubuntu it says the operating system can't be found.
[05:06] <Gandalf__> I need a full install cf, virtualizing won't do it for me.
[05:06] <Nehal> Search for "Segmentation fault at address 0x8" at the bottom of the Xorg.0.log file
[05:06] <Vyse007> Nehal: Give me a sec.
[05:07] <Nehal> OK. Thank you.
[05:07] <_independent> I am now offering free psyBNC access type !bnc to learn more.
[05:07] <Gandalf__> Is there a way to ditch the Windows 8 boot manager for GRUB?
[05:07] <cfhowlett> !ops|_independent, spamming multiple channels
[05:07] <Gandalf__> or does GRUB not work with UEFI/Windows 8 preload OEM systems?
[05:07] <usr13> Bug#650210
[05:07] <Vyse007> GRUB doesnt work with UEFI afaik
[05:07] <usr13> 650210
[05:08] <Verona> actually grub2 works pretty well
[05:08] <usr13> bug 650210
[05:09] <Vyse007> Verona: yup grub2 does. But am not sure about grub.
[05:10] <Gandalf__> Is grub2 part of the 12.04 install by any chance?
[05:10] <kmyst> Gandalf__: yes
[05:10] <Vyse007> Nehal: Is your card supported by the fglrx driver?
[05:10] <zzxc> Hey do I set the default sound card on ubuntu server?
[05:10] <Gandalf__> Yeah... I must be doing something wrong, but I'm following the WUBI guide and things are still screwy
[05:11] <Gandalf__> My machine always boots to the windows boot manager
[05:11] <Lectro> Hello
[05:11] <Gandalf__> instead of grub
[05:11] <zzxc> Lectro: Hey Lectro
[05:11] <fixmypc956> ok so I used 'chmod' to share some directories, but I still can't see them on my windows comp. What gives?
[05:11] <Gandalf__> Windows 8 just kills Linux distros T_T
[05:11] <Nehal> Vyse007: I have no idea. I was using Xubuntu 12.04 previous and it was working quite well. I have an AMD HD 7790 (Asus brand).
[05:11] <Lectro> Just a question, will Ubuntu boot off a pendrive that is not FAT32?
[05:11] <Verona> exit
[05:12] <Verona> quit
[05:12] <Gandalf__> I don't believe so Lectro
[05:12] <Gandalf__> not from my experience
[05:12] <Lectro> ok
[05:13] <Lectro> thanks
[05:13] <Vyse007> Nehal: So when did the seg faults start appearing?
[05:14] <Nehal> Vyse007: I probably should clarify. I have always been using 12.04. Today I decided to try 13.10. I popped in the disc, booted up, selected 'Try' rather than install. And then I got a blank screen. Went to the first virtual console (Ctrl-Alt-F1) and found this from the logs.
[05:15] <usr13> Nehal: What video card is it?
[05:15] <Nehal> Hmm.. I scared him away :)
[05:15] <Nehal> from above: I have an AMD HD 7790 (Asus brand).
[05:15] <Gandalf__> nice card
[05:15] <Nehal> Yes. It's a nice card.
[05:16] <usr13> Nehal: My advice;  Stick with LTS
[05:16] <usr13> Nehal: Sorry, haven't come to any conclusion on it, and I'm out of time.
[05:16] <usr13> Must go.
[05:16] <v0latil3> i have an nvidia card, the uefi menu, grub, anything before loading the video driver wont show in the native resolution of my monitor
[05:16] <Nehal> usr13: ok np. thanks.
[05:16] <v0latil3> VTs are low res too
[05:16] <adam_> Anyone have issues with steam on 13.10
[05:16] <v0latil3> its annoying
[05:17] <Vyse007> Nehal: sorry I had a connection error.
[05:17] <Nehal> Vyse007: I probably should clarify. I have always been using 12.04. Today I decided to try 13.10. I popped in the disc, booted up, selected 'Try' rather than install. And then I got a blank screen. Went to the first virtual console (Ctrl-Alt-F1) and found this from the logs.
[05:17] <Nehal> np
[05:19] <Gandalf__> Any good guides for ubuntu on a windows 8 oem system?
[05:20] <nevyn> Gandalf__: depends on the hardware.
[05:20] <Vyse007> Nehal: The open source drivers should work and fglrx shouldnt even be required in most cases.
[05:20] <Gandalf__> Lenovo H535, Richlands APU
[05:21] <Vyse007> Nehal: There seems to be some problem however, and the live image loads the radeon module.
[05:21] <Nehal> Vyse007: fglrx is the proprietary driver by AMD?
[05:22] <tonyt> yes
[05:22] <Nehal> Vyse007: interestingly, I tried Linux Mint and got the exact same error in my logs. Possibly a bug in the radeon module?
[05:23] <Vyse007> Nehal: Yes, it is. It is possible that these newer live images have made it a default for AMD cards, but I doubt that.
[05:24] <sdg> There is not enough space on the destination. Try to remove files to make space.
[05:24] <sdg> ubuntu : There is not enough space on the destination. Try to remove files to make space.
[05:24] <sdg> i did df it shows a drive 100% used
[05:24] <Vyse007> Nehal: I will try to go over the logs a bit more carefully and see a workaround, if you have some time for that.
[05:25] <sdg> ubuntu : There is not enough space on the destination. Try to remove files to make space.
[05:25] <sdg>  i did df it shows a drive 100% used
[05:26] <Nehal> Vyse007: absolutely. just ping me when you need me. please note I'm on Windows right now so I can't give you any log files or anything like that.
[05:26] <Vyse007> Nehal: The Xorg log is enough. Gimme some time.
[05:26] <Nehal> k
[05:27] <sdg> There is not enough space on the destination. Try to remove files to make space.
[05:27] <sdg> i did df it shows a drive 100% used
[05:30] <pinco> polar express italiano
[05:32] <jay-o> I tried permission changes with root, permission error occurred. please let me know the reason.(see http://paste.ubuntu.com/6544275/)
[05:33] <buu> jay-o: Why are you root on ubuntu?
[05:33] <cfhowlett> !root
[05:35] <jay-o> root and sudo are not the same?
[05:35] <Vyse007> Nehal: do you have an intel processor with amd graphics?
[05:35] <Nehal> Hmm
[05:35] <buu> jay-o: No
[05:35] <buu> jay-o: What the hell did you do to your system?
[05:36] <Nehal> Vyse007: I have an Intel Core 2 Duo E8400.
[05:36] <Nehal> It does not have HD graphics if that's relevant
[05:36] <Vyse007> Nehal: And an AMD radeon graphics card?
[05:36] <Nehal> Yes, it is AMD HD 7790.
[05:37] <Vyse007> Nehal: aaaaahhhhh, that explains a lot. A hybrid system is always a pain to get workign
[05:37] <Nehal> Vyse007: I thought that is only a problem if the intel processor has built-in graphics capability?
[05:40] <Nehal> Hmm, he always gets disconnected at the perfect time....
[05:40] <Nehal> Vyse007: I thought that is only a problem if the intel processor has built-in graphics capability?
[05:41] <Gandalf__> okay
[05:41] <Vyse007>  The motherboard has a built-in graphics chip and if you remove your card, and then boot the live image, it will work perfectly fine.
[05:41] <Gandalf__> i gave up dual booting from the same hard drive
[05:41] <Gandalf__> I'm going to just install a second hard drive so I can have Ubuntu
[05:41] <Nehal> Vyse007: Nope, this motherboard does not. It's quite old.
[05:41] <Gandalf__> Windows 8 is just too uncooperative
[05:41] <Nehal> Vyse007: put it this way, without the AMD graphics card, my computer would be unuseable :)
[05:43] <Nehal> Gandalf__: Trust me, it's MUCH easier that way. Then I just press the special shortcut when my BIOS shows to show the boot menu, and select the second hard drive..... just removes so much pain... and potentially safer too...
[05:43] <Vyse007> Nehal: You could mount the live system, install the drivers, then boot it and install. But that would require a good sense of the command line...
[05:43] <jay-o> Thank you, buu. I tried download procps-3.2.8.tar.gz and I wanted to install manual operation.
[05:44] <Nehal> Vyse007: what drivers? I think my card is supported by radeonsi
[05:44] <impradeepy> jay-o:extract it
[05:44] <Gandalf__> I feel like Microsoft made me buy a second hard drive.
[05:44] <Vyse007> Nehal: The proprietary drivers.
[05:44]  * Gandalf__ has bad feels
[05:46] <buu> Gandalf__: Run win8 inside a vm!
[05:46] <Nehal> Vyse007: ok... I guess that could be a temp solution, but I think I should report this so it can be fixed (I'm sure someone else might have this problem too)
[05:46] <Gandalf__> buu I'm not sure that's possible
[05:47] <impradeepy> jay-o:after extracting go to its path using cd change directory command and the use./configure, make and finaly sudo make install
[05:47] <Vyse007> Nehal: people might have the same problem. You can take a look at the bugs database and file a bug if you so wish.
[05:48] <Nehal> Vyse007: Yes, I search and could not find anything. I'll take a final look and if I still don't see anything I'll file a bug.
[05:48] <Nehal> Vyse007: thanks for all your help!
[05:48] <Vyse007> Nehal: No problem. And I am sorry I couldn't be of more help.
[05:49] <pvl1> i cant seem to stop my laptop from going to sleep on lid close
[05:50] <buu> Gandalf__: Of course its possible..
[05:51] <Vyse007> Alright guys, off to get some sleep now. Catch you all tomorrow. Have fun!
[05:51] <somsip> Gandalf__: http://www.modern.ie/en-us/virtualization-tools#downloads
[05:51] <Vyse007> !register
[05:51] <sdg> i am no able to copy file from one folder to another
[05:51] <sdg> it says memory full
[05:51] <sdg> i have removed file
[05:51] <jay-o> Thank you , impradeepy. Rightly, I extracted it, but no configure file found.
[05:51] <sdg> still same error
[05:52] <sdg> plz help
[05:52] <FloodBot1> sdg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:52] <_independent> free psybnc type *bnc*
[05:52] <sdg> then plz answer question
[05:52] <impradeepy> jay-o: use ls to find one
[05:52] <SchrodingersScat> sdg: make sure that you haven't only moved them to a wastebin, but actually deleted the files.
[05:52] <jmgk> hi impradeepy
[05:53] <sdg> SchrodingersScat : i did same
[05:53] <impradeepy> jmgk:hello
[05:53] <SchrodingersScat> sdg: df -h should show you how much is free on your disks
[05:53] <azzid> need help installing ath9k module
[05:53] <sdg> SchrodingersScat : i did df it shows 100% used in some drives
[05:54] <sdg> like sd01
[05:54] <sdg> i removed some files from there
[05:54] <SchrodingersScat> sdg: ncdu is a handy tool for freeing up space
[05:54] <sdg> but nothing happened
[05:54] <sdg> ok
[05:54] <jay-o> impradeepy : please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/6544339/
[05:56] <impradeepy> ok
[05:57] <sdg> SchrodingersScat : iam not able to download ncdu
[05:57] <azzid> need help with my wifi card, it is not being detected on 13.04, here's some data http://pastebin.com/eU49VCFD
[05:57] <sdg> no memory left to install that
[05:57] <SchrodingersScat> sdg: because of full disk?
[05:57] <impradeepy> jay-o:try this sudo apt-get source procps
[05:57] <SchrodingersScat> well, time to delete something
[05:58] <impradeepy> jay-o:it  should get you the exact source as used to build the version for your platform
[05:58] <sdg> ya
[05:59] <sdg> SchrodingersScat : its saying no memory left to copy
[06:01] <azzid> someone? need help with my wifi card, it is not being detected on 13.04, here's some data http://pastebin.com/eU49VCFD
[06:04] <impradeepy> azzid: sudo gedit /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/essid , essid= name of ur wireless network
[06:04] <impradeepy> azzid:A file should open then enter your user password change the line "system-ca-certs=true" to "system-ca-certs=false" save and close gedit or whatever text editor you are using, then reboot.
[06:05] <linea> How can i filter GET request only i am generating log with custom handler
[06:05] <joshnan> i am fish
[06:06] <azzid> impradeepy: I'll try
[06:06] <joshnan> sorry
[06:06] <impradeepy> azzid:ok
[06:06] <azzid> brb
[06:06] <impradeepy> gud luck
[06:06] <jay-o> impradeepy: "apt-get source procps" was successful.can you tell me next command?
[06:08] <impradeepy> jay-o:so its self compiled now :)
[06:09] <azzid> impradeepy: no luck
[06:09] <azzid> I think the problem is on a lower level
[06:10] <azzid> for example if i do iwconfig, there shows no wireless lan at all, no wlan0
[06:10] <impradeepy> azzid:try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:13] <noemie> previously on ubuntu had an external drive mounted. Now it will not mount. When trying to mount /dev/sdc1 it shows unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[06:13] <impradeepy> azzid: show me d output of apt-cache show bcmwl-kernel-sourcepackage
[06:13] <noemie> how to get the external usb drive to mount ?
[06:13] <jay-o> Thank you, impradeepy. I did do build again, but the same error occurred.(please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/6544390/)
[06:14] <stevildead> having trouble booting ubuntu 12 from usb. says no os found
[06:14] <impradeepy> use sudo
[06:14] <jay-o> I'll try
[06:14] <impradeepy> jay-o:ok
[06:16] <stevildead> need help booting from usb
[06:16] <miketomdool> stevildead does the computer support usb booting? (I know I've had quite a few computers that didn't support it)
[06:16] <jay-o> impradeepy: No, I'm afraid not. The same error occurred.
[06:16] <stevildead> miketomdool: its a dell mini\
[06:16] <stevildead> miketomdool: its available in the boor menu
[06:17] <impradeepy> jay-o:try this ./configure && make && sudo make install
[06:17] <stevildead> boot***
[06:18] <impradeepy> jay-o:after extraction is there any file called install or readme.txt?
[06:18] <miketomdool> stevildead what tool did you use to flash the usb?
[06:18] <Beldar> stevildead, bios boot menu?
[06:18] <stevildead> Beldar: yes
[06:19] <stevildead> miketomdool: i wiped it with mac drive utility
[06:20] <jay-o> There were README and some c files,but no configure file found.
[06:22] <Beldar> stevildead, have you seen this wiki. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[06:23] <azzid> impradeepy: i'm doing apt-get upgrade now, but I think it's weird that the wifi isn't working because it worked while the ubuntu setup installed, downloading packages and everything
[06:23] <impradeepy> jay-o:no config file than i think it wont install i am sorry after compiling we cannot move forward may be due to corrupted tarball file
[06:24] <impradeepy> azzid:show me the output of apt-cache show bcmwl-kernel-source
[06:25] <azzid> impradeepy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6544425/
[06:25] <stevildead> Beldar: im not trying to put the os on a mac
[06:26] <impradeepy> azzid:sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source
[06:26] <Beldar> azzid, Take a look at these threads the first has mention of a bug. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=AR9462
[06:27] <Beldar> stevildead, But you are trying to load the usb on a mac right?
[06:27] <Beldar> stevildead, Or you tried.
[06:27] <azzid> Beldar: I've looking around, and for most of those folks wifi works, bad, but it works. In my situation iwconfig returns no wireless extension, no wlan0 at all
[06:27] <stevildead> Beldar: im trying to install ubuntu 12 from usb on a dell mini
[06:28] <Beldar> stevildead, On what OS did you load the usb with?
[06:28] <azzid> impradeepy: i'm upgrading right now, when it finsish I'll purge it
[06:28] <cfhowlett> stevildead, try lubuntu instead - optimized for lower spec machines
[06:29] <impradeepy> azzid:after removing 6.20.155.1+bdcom  do one reboot if still no wifi then install its previous version then you should able to see working wireless because there is a bug in latest 6.20.155.1+bdcom
[06:29] <stevildead> Beldar: i downloaded the os with a mac book and put in on the usb from there
[06:30] <azzid> impradeepy: i dont get it, why bcom? my card is AR9462
[06:30] <Beldar> stevildead, Then read the link I gave you, it is not for installing on a mac, but making the usb on a mac.
[06:30] <impradeepy> azzid:problem is you have two chipset broadcom and atheros so u need to blacklist one
[06:31] <impradeepy> azzid:thats why i told you to purge bcmwl that contains broadcom source packages
[06:31] <Beldar> stevildead, My question was have you seen the link anyway, loading a usb on a mac is a specialized procedure.
[06:31] <azzid> impradeepy: thanks, I'll try when upgrade finishes
[06:32] <impradeepy> azzid:ok good luck
[06:32] <stevildead> Beldar: i looked at it, im assuming it has to do w the file type ie .img
[06:33] <noemie> how can i mount the usb drive that now shows up as format type lvm2
[06:36] <noemie> how do I mount /dev/sdc1   63  3907024064  1953512001   8e  Linux LVM
[06:38] <makara> hi. I'm having trouble doing this: http://www.unixmen.com/upgrade-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ubuntu-13-10-saucy-salamander/
[06:39] <jay-o> impradeepy: does my tarball sound wrong?
[06:39] <impradeepy> jay-o:yes
[06:39] <miketomdool> noemie I have no idea if this will work but try: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media (i have never used the LVM filesystem before so I wouldn't know if it would work)
[06:40] <impradeepy> jay:o:because it did not have a config file
[06:40] <impradeepy> jay-o:so after compiling we cannot able to configure and then install
[06:40] <jay-o> OK.I'll retry download.
[06:40] <noemie> miketomdool, thanks but that will not work
[06:40] <buu> noemie: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/how-can-i-mount-lvm-partition-in-ubuntu-569507/
[06:41] <buu> http://linuxwave.blogspot.com/2007/11/mounting-lvm-disk-using-ubuntu-livecd.html
[06:41] <buu> etc
[06:41] <impradeepy> jay:o:good luck use official link that matches with your repos
[06:43] <noemie> vgchange -a y
[06:43] <noemie>   0 logical volume(s) in volume group "myomie" now active   now what?
[06:44] <makara> WARNING:root:file 'saucy.tar.gz.gpg' missing
[06:46] <Jordan_U> noemie: Where did you get this drive from?
[06:47] <noemie> Jordan_U, had for a few years
[06:47] <Jordan_U> noemie: Did you create the LVM that's currently on it?
[06:48] <noemie> Jordan_U, i wiped out 12.04 early this morning because / was too small after 1.5 years, so I reinstalled, but not lvm, just raid
[06:48] <noemie> the backup drive is a samsung 2TB Drive
[06:48] <noemie> it shows up in nautilus but as a 'name' with VG in green
[06:49] <Jordan_U> noemie: Can you access the files via nautilus?
[06:49] <noemie> syslog shows the drive if i remove the usb cable and plug it back in
[06:49] <noemie> no
[06:49] <noemie> wish i could
[06:49] <noemie> everything we need is on that drive
[06:49] <noemie> why its lvm is news to me
[06:50] <noemie> the old system as md* too
[06:50] <Jordan_U> noemie: So this drive contained a full Ubuntu installation at one point?
[06:50] <noemie> no
[06:50] <noemie> it was just a backup drive
[06:50] <noemie> it was only mounted manually with mount /bkup
[06:51] <noemie> its odd because I destroyed 12.04 and reinstalled 12.04
[06:51] <noemie> but when I installed, i did not have the drive plugged in for safety resaons
[06:51] <noemie> reasons
[06:52] <noemie> or reinstalled i should say
[06:52] <Jordan_U> noemie: So you had an fstab entry for it. Do you happend to still have that fstab? What is the output of "sudo lvscan"?
[06:52] <noemie> my / was 3GB before which was way too small
[06:52] <noemie> yes
[06:52] <noemie> no
[06:52] <cfhowlett> !who
[06:53] <noemie> lvscan  -> empty
[06:53] <noemie> same with modprobe dm-mod
[06:54] <noemie> ubuntu disk utility shows the drive but no 'mount' button available :(
[06:55] <noemie> says 2.0GB lvm2 physical volume
[06:55] <noemie> errr
[06:55] <noemie> 2.0TB
[06:55] <makara> please help with this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/388162/warningrootfile-saucy-tar-gz-gpg-missing-on-distribution-upgrade
[06:55] <noemie>  /dev/sdc1
[06:55] <makara> i can't be the only person having this issue
[06:56] <Payton> Beldar: bekks Thanks for all of your help, I now have ubuntu running really fast :)
[06:57] <Jordan_U> makara: Don't use blogs when there is official documentation available. Those instructions were for when saucy was still in development.
[06:57] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | makara
[06:57] <Payton> How would I update everything in the command line? :P
[06:58] <starnix> Payton: sudo apt-get update
[06:58] <Payton> starnix: Thanks, I just like doing things through the command line :P
[07:00] <Payton> Well, brb restarting for updates
[07:01] <makara> Jordan_U, ok thanks. I've did everything in http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[07:01] <makara> there is no mention of gpg issues there or in the release notes
[07:02] <Blunder-fuss> Good Morning - I'm having dramas dual booting my Mac mini. I've already dual booted with Windows 7 but i'm trying to add Ubuntu. I created a 50gb NTFS partition (I'm just testing the install at this stage) and for some reason the installation doesn't see the seperate partitions.
[07:03] <guest-iofb1r> nihao
[07:04] <Blunder-fuss> Any clues?
[07:04] <impradeepy> blunder-fues: use ext4 file sytem for ubuntu not ntfs
[07:04] <Blunder-fuss> True - but shouldn't I be able to modify the partitions in the installer?
[07:05] <impradeepy> blunder-fuess:yes,u can select something else during installation there you will find
[07:06] <Blunder-fuss> Yes, but it wouldn't every recognize the seperate partitions
[07:06] <forehand> this the place for noob questions?
[07:07] <Blunder-fuss> just saw hdd\a
[07:07] <Jordan_U> makara: What is the exact command you ran that gave an error, and what was that exact error message? (use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com for mroe than one line of output).
[07:07] <impradeepy> blunder-fuss:shoe me the snaps so that i can see your actual problem
[07:08] <makara> Jordan_U, its very simple actually. I just clicked 'Upgrade' at step 3 of http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[07:08] <boggle> Issue with key-mapping on new keyboard. Any advice would be greatly appreciated: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=QUT0hXG1
[07:08] <makara> Jordan_U, and I get 'failed to fetch' error message
[07:08] <Jordan_U> Blunder-fuss: What do you mean by "the installation doesn't see the separate partitions"? Are you talking about the Ubuntu installer?
[07:08] <Blunder-fuss> @Jordan_U yes
[07:08] <Jordan_U> makara: Please pastebin the exact text of the error, or post a screenshot of it.
[07:08] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | Blunder-fuss
[07:08] <makara> Jordan_U, when I invoke the GUI updater from the cli, it puffs out the error message I posted on askubuntu
[07:08] <Blunder-fuss> I can't take screencaps, i'm on another machine
[07:08] <Jordan_U> Blunder-fuss: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[07:09] <makara> Jordan_U, http://askubuntu.com/questions/388162/warningrootfile-saucy-tar-gz-gpg-missing-on-distribution-upgrade
[07:09] <Jordan_U> makara: You shouldn't be running "sudo update-manager -d", you should just be running "update-manager" (as your own user, not root).
[07:09] <Blunder-fuss> The installation on sees the HDD as a whole, not the seperate partitions
[07:10] <forehand> I'm trying to set up an ubuntu box as a router but running into trouble.
[07:10] <keplr> Anyone know how to play an m3u stream on Linux?
[07:10] <Visigoth> Greetings
[07:10] <azzid> impradeepy: I finished upgrading, rebooted no wifi. purged bcmwl (it was not installed), rebooted: no wifi. installed latest bcmwl, rebooted no wifi either.
[07:10] <aeon-ltd> keplr: can't confirm, but i think vlc might
[07:10] <Jordan_U> Blunder-fuss: I expect that "sudo parted -l" will print an error because you have an invalid partition table, so please run that command and try to relay what that error message is.
[07:11] <Blunder-fuss> Jordan_U: Ok i'll try
[07:12] <impradeepy> azzid:why did you install the latest bcmwl? i told you to uninstall it and install the previous version because there is bug in the latest you have atheros so you dont need broadcom
[07:12] <Blunder-fuss> Damn Windows 7 for screwing up my part table
[07:12] <impradeepy> its not win7 fault mate<
[07:12] <azzid> impradeepy: my bad, how do i install previous?
[07:13] <keplr> Thanks aeon-ltd, VLC worked.
[07:13] <forehand> is there a networking channel I should hit up?
[07:13] <makara> Jordan_U, don't quite understand why a dist-upgrade shouldn't be done as root, but anyway it still gives the same error
[07:13] <Blunder-fuss> Sure it is - I used the inbuilt Disk Management, so I suspect that buggered it
[07:14] <miketomdool> makara can you go into ubuntu software manager->edit->software sources and tell me what it says in "download from: "
[07:14] <impradeepy> azzid:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros
[07:14] <makara> miketomdool, it used to be ftp from a south african server. I've changed it to main server.
[07:14] <Jordan_U> makara: You shouldn't run GUI apps using sudo. *If* you need to run a GUI app as root you should use gksudo, but in the case of update-manager it escalates its priveleges using policykit so it doesn't need to be run as root at all.
[07:14] <Blunder-fuss> How do I bring up the console in the Ubuntu enviro when it isn't installe
[07:14] <Blunder-fuss> d
[07:14] <linuxlite1969> hi
[07:14] <linuxlite1969> anyone here using skype?
[07:15] <impradeepy> blunder-fuss:its ur fault of not doing it properly so please do not blame an os
[07:15] <makara> Jordan_U, oh right, the gksudo thing
[07:15] <linuxlite1969> i have hp 101 webcam it shows in the options but when i call there is no picture
[07:16] <forehand> How do I raise my hand?
[07:16] <linuxlite1969> options>video devices the webcam works, but when i call my friends there is no picture the camera wont light i mean the led
[07:16] <linuxlite1969> help
[07:16] <forehand> help
[07:17] <Blunder-fuss> How do I bring up the console?
[07:17] <Jordan_U> impradeepy: Most partition tables that parted considers invalid, like those with overlapping partitions, should not be possible to create with a properly written partitioning program. We don't know if that's the case here, but it is possible to legitimately blame the tool for this type of problem.
[07:17] <aeon-ltd> forehand: ask, in the future don't ask to asl
[07:17] <aeon-ltd> *ask
[07:18] <forehand> asl?
[07:18] <Jordan_U> makara: Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update".
[07:18] <aeon-ltd> forehand: ask
[07:19] <Jordan_U> Blunder-fuss: Select the "Try Ubuntu" option, then search for "terminal" in Unity.
[07:19] <impradeepy> jordan_u:agreed,but its simple to do partitions using disk management just shrink the volume and leave it as unallocated so that during installation of ubuntu we can  easily create partitions :)
[07:19] <Blunder-fuss> Thanks Jordan_U
[07:20] <Jordan_U> Blunder-fuss: You're welcome.
[07:21] <Blunder-fuss> Ok, Jordan_U: because I'm loaded from the USB it's only showing the USB drive when I do sudo parted -l
[07:22] <Jordan_U> Blunder-fuss: That is not supposed to happen. What kind of drive is this and how is it connected to the computer?
[07:22] <Blunder-fuss> Jordan_U: when I do sudo parted -l it also says "Error: Both the primary and backup GPT tables are corrupt. Try making a fresh table, and using Parted's rescue feature to recover partitions."
[07:23] <impradeepy> format it
[07:23] <makara> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/CyxvMD8B
[07:23] <savagejen> I am on 13.04 and pptp is broken. Anyone know if it's fixed on 13.10. I don't want to upgrade unless I need to?
[07:24] <impradeepy> blunder-fuss:will suggest you to repair it using win7 or format it and then fresh install of ubuntu
[07:24] <theadmin> savagejen: I suggest you use 12.04 if you don't want to update often. 13.04 doesn't have long support, infact, it's almost over.
[07:24] <theadmin> savagejen: PPTP is working on 12.04, I have to point out.
[07:24] <savagejen> I can't exactly go back, can I?
[07:25] <Blunder-fuss> impradeepy: This isn't an option, I don't want to lose the Mac OSX partition
[07:26] <Jordan_U> Blunder-fuss: That's definitely not a good thing. If you can still access your data from Windows, and you don't already have good backups of all important files (as you always should), I recommend you do so now. This is most likely fixable, but the fact that it happened in the first place suggests that you may have a failing drive or other serious problem.
[07:26] <noemie> any help to get usb drive mount is greatly appreciated.
[07:26] <theadmin> savagejen: Downgrade is impossible, but a reinstall is. If you install over an existing Ubuntu installation, without formatting, it will save settings, user data, and even attempt to reinstall apps you had.
[07:26] <linea> Anyone i want to extract size and status from this type log http://paste.ubuntu.com/6544588/
[07:27] <impradeepy> blunder-fuss:yes i am afraid, but i think there is no other options left for you as your drive is corrupted
[07:27] <savagejen> theadmin, that's not the point
[07:27] <Jordan_U> theadmin: I wasn't aware of the trying to re-install apps part, do you have a source for that?
[07:27] <savagejen> I shouldn't have to downgrade
[07:27] <jay-o> impradeepy: I am done.(http://paste.ubuntu.com/6544577/) it is too hard for end users to solve. :-)
[07:27] <savagejen> Yeah, pptp is old and broken, but people still use it, which means releasing broken packages is ridiculous
[07:27] <theadmin> Jordan_U: Source? Trying to install 12.04 over a 13.10 installation, it said "Restoring packages..." or something and after the install I suddenly had all apps I had before
[07:28] <Blunder-fuss> Jordan_U: I've got all the important files backed up so thats not a problem. I'm just not sure how well I can get OSX re-installed on the machine. Is it possible to repair this?
[07:28] <theadmin> savagejen: I have to say, PPTP has worked for me on 13.04 as well, so this is odd
[07:28] <savagejen> there's an open bug on launchpad
[07:28] <savagejen> I'm not the only person with the issue.
[07:29]  * savagejen is updating to 13.10 and crossing her fingers.
[07:29] <theadmin> Hm, must be new or something. savagejen, if the bug is marked fixed for 13.10 then the issue isn't present. Anyway, you should upgrade regardless, 13.04 is EOL in a month or so
[07:29] <savagejen> theadmin, not fixed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1175897
[07:29] <Jordan_U> Blunder-fuss: It is probably possible to repair, though repairing it may break booting of Windows, OSX, or both.
[07:30] <Guest27618> Just a recommendation anyone who has installed Ubuntu 13.10, should upgrade there Kernel to 3.12 to avoid chronic Kernel Panics
[07:30] <Blunder-fuss> Jordan_U: repair via Ubuntu?
[07:30] <theadmin> savagejen: Hm. If the bug is in Network Manager, try using pptpsetup to configure your connection, pon to connect and poff to disconnect.
[07:30] <noemie> #vgscan
[07:30] <noemie> Found volume group "myomie" using metadata type lvm2
[07:31] <noemie> vgchange -a y myomie
[07:31] <noemie>   0 logical volume(s) in volume group "myomie" now active
[07:31] <noemie> so how to mount this then?
[07:31] <Grnfld_tux> I'm on 13.10 and I installed the Netflix app, I did all the codes -- when I try to play movie it crashes.
[07:32] <savagejen> theadmin, what will be the next stable release?
[07:32] <Jordan_U> noemie: Why did you add "myomie" to the end of that command? What is the output of just "sudo vgchange -a y"?
[07:32] <theadmin> savagejen: 14.04, released April 2014, supported until 2019.
[07:33] <noemie> Jordan_U, vgchange -a y myomie
[07:33] <noemie>   0 logical volume(s) in volume group "myomie" now active
[07:33] <noemie> oops
[07:33] <noemie> vgchange -a y
[07:33] <noemie>   0 logical volume(s) in volume group "myomie" now active
[07:33] <savagejen> theadmin, skipping the 13s? :D
[07:33] <theadmin> savagejen: There's a new release every six months, once every two years there's an LTS release.
[07:33] <savagejen> ok
[07:33] <theadmin> savagejen: The version number is actually just YY.MM (year.month)
[07:34] <Jordan_U> noemie: Try asking in #lvm .
[07:34] <noemie> ok
[07:34] <theadmin> savagejen: Which makes the first Ubuntu version 4.10, kinda funny
[07:35] <savagejen> theadmin, until time travel is invented
[07:35] <savagejen> theadmin, or the doctor decides to run ubuntu
[07:35] <theadmin> savagejen: Doctor? Doctor who?
[07:36] <theadmin> (sorry, couldn't hold back)
[07:36] <savagejen> theadmin, thus completely ruining your neat little versioning scheme
[07:36] <savagejen> bbl 13.10 reboot
[07:36] <Jordan_U> Blunder-fuss: Please try running "sudo apt-get install gdisk" then "sudo gdisk /dev/sdX" where sdX is the drive in question, like "sda" or "sdb".
[07:37] <Blunder-fuss> Jordan_U: Ok, i'll give it a shot
[07:37] <Jordan_U> Blunder-fuss: It should also give you an error message (possibly a more helpful one), and then it should give you prompt to do more actions, you can just enter 'q' at any time to quit.
[07:41] <impradeepy> jay-o: show me the output of cat /etc/sysctl.d/*.conf /etc/sysctl.conf | sudo sysctl -p -
[07:41] <impradeepy> jay-o: i think new conf is conflicting with the older one
[07:43] <impradeepy> jay-o:then run this: sudo apt-get install procps=1:3.2.8-11ubuntu6.2
[07:46] <cartusia> Yo everyone can you do me a big big favor :), I can get 10 thousand dollars for it. I am so close to finishing this contest, need some facebook votes :P. If you can vote for my family which is team number 6 "Team Boo" https://www.healthywage.com/leaderboards/team_standings/?team_challenge=43&secondary_filter=6 super thanks!
[07:46] <cartusia> It will ask for ur respective facebook login
[07:46] <Jordan_U> cartusia: Please do not post spam here again.
[07:46] <cartusia> Jordan_U, its not spam :(
[07:46] <cartusia> just a favor thats all
[07:46] <cartusia> :)
[07:46] <Jordan_U> cartusia: It is. Please stop now.
[07:47] <grendal_prime> anyone familar with these sans digital jobod mini tower things?
[07:48] <grendal_prime> it got this weird situation where the bios come up i tell it wich drives i want to use...and everything seems to go ok..but the array just does not show up on the running ubuntu os.
[07:48] <Jordan_U> grendal_prime: Do you see the individual drives from within Ubuntu?
[07:49] <grendal_prime> no..nothing
[07:49] <jay-o> impradeepy: i resolved the issue. Special permission(lsattr) was wrong and i used chattr command.
[07:49] <Jordan_U> grendal_prime: How is this device connected to the computer?
[07:49] <grendal_prime> now i know the unit works..ive had ti connected to my xps unit and it worked fine
[07:49] <grendal_prime> rocket raid card that shiped with it
[07:50] <impradeepy> jay-o:finaly itsinstalled?
[07:50] <jay-o> Yes.Thanks.
[07:51] <impradeepy> jay-o:great enjoy cheers:)
[07:53] <Danato> how do I remap a keyboard key? I want it to show Ç instead of Ć, when I press "<shift> + ' + c"
[07:54] <grendal_prime> and then a cable (again supplied by sans digital)
[07:54] <theadmin> Danato: Ç should be on Alt+,
[07:54] <Danato> on the (US, alternative international) keyboard layout
[07:55] <theadmin> Ah, I dunno about that one. I use "English (international AltGr dead keys)"
[07:55] <Danato> theadmin: Alt+ ?
[07:55] <Danato> ok ill try it out
[07:56] <miketomdool> make sure you use the right alt not the left one
[07:56] <theadmin> Yes, it should be labelled "Alt Gr" on most keyboards.
[07:57] <Danato> ah that worked
[07:57] <Danato> thanks
[07:57] <Danato> but its weird
[07:57] <theadmin> That's how most layouts with >2 layers work
[08:00] <limace255> hi all, I try to set an usb-key with auto-installation of an ubuntu-server.iso, using kickstart, instead of preseed; don't knw why, but it doesn't seem to be as easy as I hope...
[08:01] <limace255> some topics say better to place ks.cfg file on the / of usb, other say in isolinux folder...some other say rename isolinux ---> syslinux
[08:01] <limace255> has anyone perform such installation ?
[08:02] <limace255> (ubuntu-server.iso, because I don't want any graphical mode for and after install, in fact)
[08:05] <Danato> theadmin: I actually said it wrong, it was supposed to be " ' + c " = ç , like windows does
[08:05] <Danato> theadmin: its a bug that was never solved https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/518056
[08:10] <fangkui> hello
[08:11] <miketomdool> welcome ^
[08:11] <fangkui> only you
[08:11] <fangkui> ?
[08:11] <theadmin> Plenty of people. Ask your question.
[08:12] <Mastablasta> Hey you guys. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for me. I insalled isight firmware tools in terminal. But no signal from firewire it seems or cam or video not even turning on power I think in Ubuntu. Do I need to install some firewire chance too by chance or any suggestions?
[08:12] <fangkui> first player
[08:13] <fangkui> i am from china
[08:14] <Stanley00> fangkui: do you have any question to ask?
[08:15] <fangkui> I do not how to answer
[08:15] <Stanley00> !ot | fangkui if you just want to talk, join here
[08:17] <fangkui>  #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel
[08:19] <Mastablasta> does anyone know how to make sure my firewire stuff is installed working right?
[08:21] <fangkui> I do not now
[08:21] <fangkui> know
[08:21] <Mastablasta> well figure it out mannn! jk lol
[08:24] <EO_> Is there some large meta package that installs a ton of development tools?  I don't wanna keep installing stuff one by one
[08:25] <EO_> build-essential is really barebones
[08:25] <wasanzy> hello, am getting the error about, my OS running in low graphic mode so I should configure it manually, what could I do about this?
[08:25] <wasanzy> Ubuntu 13.04
[08:25] <Stanley00> EO_: what kind of developer tools do you want?
[08:26] <EO_> Stanley00: general C/C++ stuff.  all automake stuff, bison, etc...
[08:26] <Stanley00> Mastablasta: I don't know, but did you restart your computer, and may be you can check with lsmod and...
[08:26] <theadmin> EO_: I don't think there is... Just install those yourself, no big deal
[08:26] <Mastablasta> Yes, I have all updates to 13.10 this has been problem for awhile
[08:26] <EO_> theadmin: blargh.
[08:27] <Chosen-One> Anybody got experience in setting up Plex Media Server?
[08:27] <Chosen-One> Does the format of the HDD need to be something specific?
[08:28] <theadmin> EO_: Well, what? sudo apt-get install g++ gcc make automake autoconf equivs checkinstall bison m4 vim-gtk
[08:28] <theadmin> EO_: ...what else? I mean... that's all the basic stuff
[08:28] <EO_> theadmin: I guess I'm looking for an equivalent to yum's groupinstall "Developer Tools" or whatever it is
[08:29] <EO_> theadmin: I'm trying to compile something which didn't specify its deps and don't wanna rev eng src code on every fail
[08:29] <theadmin> blargh, that's much of a problem
[08:29] <szymon> dfghjjjjuytgg
[08:32] <magda_> :)
[08:32] <szymon> yyyyyy
[08:33] <szymon> lol
[08:33] <szymon> żal
[08:33] <theadmin> szymon: Remove kebab, please. Use this channel for support purposes only.
[08:33] <magda_> wtf ?
[08:33] <Gumby> remove kebab?
[08:33] <szymon> kebab?
[08:33] <szymon> lubie
[08:33] <theadmin> Eh, random reference, not expecting anyone to get that. What I mean is, stop that.
[08:34] <jesika98> yey ><3
[08:34] <magda_> jesika <3
[08:34] <jesika98> ej. tu są jakieś innje ludzie xd
[08:34] <Gumby> heh
[08:34] <magda_> wiem
[08:34] <magda_> :P
[08:34] <jesika98> looolz
[08:34] <szymon> cześć jesi :D
[08:34] <DJones> szymon: jesika98 magda_ Please don't do that, this is a support channel
[08:34] <tozen> polish go home :)
[08:34] <jesika98> noł
[08:35] <magda_> why ??
[08:35] <Myrtti> because this is a Ubuntu support channel, not your random amusement channel
[08:35] <Sebastien> go in a different channel if you want to have fun please.
[08:35] <magda_> phi trudno :P
[08:36] <XOXO_> tak bywa xD
[08:36] <michal__> polish are horrible
[08:36] <szymon> nie rusza mnie to
[08:36] <michal__> i hate them
[08:36] <jesika98> mnie też xd
[08:36] <tozen> michal__: +1000
[08:36] <theadmin> michal__: No racism, please, not all of them are like this. And this isn't helping.
[08:37] <AB49K> What's wrong with a little racism? :(
[08:37] <Myrtti> AB49K: let's not even start that discussion
[08:37] <theadmin> Let's just say it's against the rules.
[08:37] <tozen> theadmin: agree but people has to follow channels rules
[08:37] <cyberputz> Don't feed the trolls, just ban on sight.
[08:48] <purvesh> What is Ubuntu
[08:48] <DJones> !ubuntu | purvesh
[08:51] <theadmin> purvesh: Best operating system ever created. Think of it as a replacement for Windows or OS X.
[08:51] <JordanJ2> Does Unity "lag"
[08:51] <JordanJ2> Err
[08:52] <JordanJ2> Does unity lag for anyone? Orbis it based on computer specs?
[08:52] <JordanJ2> Or*
[08:52] <theadmin> JordanJ2: Lag? It does, sometimes, indeed. That's sadly due to the fact that all of its' "pretiness" highly relies on 3D acceleration of the GPU
[08:52] <v0latil3> i cant install steam
[08:53] <v0latil3> connection to repo.steampowered.com times out
[08:53] <theadmin> JordanJ2: It works fine here, but it's a huge pain on older systems. I suggest trying Xfce instead, or even KDE if your system is fine but the graphics card is old
[08:53] <JordanJ2> !details | V01Px3
[08:53] <DJones> JordanJ2: It will probably depend on the computer specs, I don't have problems on an i3 with 4Gb ram & intel graphics, but older processors/graphics cards could have issues
[08:53] <DJones> !requirements | JordanJ2
[08:53] <theadmin> v0latil3: That's a problem of VALVe, it's down indeed.
[08:54] <JordanJ2> Anyway I can decrease that lag?
[08:54] <v0latil3> theadmin, if i install the deb from store.steampowered.com, wiill it be able to be updated from apt if it comes back online?
[08:54] <theadmin> v0latil3: That deb still needs the repositories to be up, I think, so just wait
[08:55] <v0latil3> wow i cant download the deb either
[08:55] <v0latil3> :(
[08:55] <theadmin> JordanJ2: It's highly GPU-dependent. If you have an nVidia/GPU graphics card, try going to settings -> additional drivers (or settings -> software & updates -> additional drivers) and activate the proprietary ones for your card.
[08:55] <JordanJ2> So unity would run a bit more smooth
[08:55] <theadmin> err
[08:55] <theadmin> JordanJ2: NVidia/AMD graphics card, meant to say.
[08:56] <JordanJ2> Wow my timing is way off tonight
[08:56] <JordanJ2> theadmin: How will it tun on INTEL?
[08:56] <JordanJ2> !unity
[08:57] <JordanJ2> !nounity
[08:57] <theadmin> JordanJ2: I have an intel GPU and it runs perfectly well, but it's one of the newer ones I guess?
[08:57] <krz> hi
[08:58] <JordanJ2> Ah
[08:58] <boggle> Issue with key-mapping on new keyboard. Any advice would be greatly appreciated: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=QUT0hXG1
[08:58] <krz> what is ubuntu using to hibernate? apparently "systemctl hibernate" is not a recognized command
[08:58] <JordanJ2> I'm just don't want to install Ubuntu and have terrible lag in Unity
[08:59] <purvesh0147> what are the pros of ubuntu over other distros??
[08:59] <theadmin> krz: "pm-hibernate" is the command.
[08:59] <DJones> JordanJ2: If you're concerned about lag, you could also try Lubuntu or Xubuntu which are both Ubuntu releases, but with a different and lighter desktop which should run quicker
[08:59] <DJones> !lubuntu | JordanJ2
[08:59] <DJones> !xubuntu | JordanJ2
[09:00] <Romance> i add Listen 443 on my /etc/ssh/sshd_config , and i did service ssh restart , now i cannot ssh into my vps, what is wrong with it ?
[09:00] <JordanJ2> DJones: Thing is I want Ubuntu
[09:01] <krz> theadmin: is ubuntu using systemctl though?
[09:01] <theadmin> krz: No, Ubuntu uses Upstart, not systemd
[09:02] <DJones> JordanJ2: What you can do is download the iso, put it on a USB stick and boot up with that in the "Try Ubuntu" mode rather than install, that'll give you a bit of an idea, obviously, that would be slower than a full install, but might help
[09:03] <JordanJ2> Alright, I will try that
[09:03] <JordanJ2> Thank you
[09:04] <makara> please help, http://askubuntu.com/questions/388162/warningrootfile-saucy-tar-gz-gpg-missing-on-distribution-upgrade
[09:05] <theadmin> makara: You're not doing this right... This command doesn't need sudo, and 13.10 is a released version, so just start the Update Manager from the Dash and follow the instructions there.
[09:05] <makara> theadmin, ok I tried just update-manager
[09:05] <makara> same errors
[09:05] <theadmin> makara: Are you on a graphical system?
[09:06] <makara> theadmin, yes
[09:06] <theadmin> makara: It seems to be some bug. Check for updates and install those first: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:06] <theadmin> makara: Afterwards, try again.
[09:06] <makara> theadmin, tried that
[09:07] <theadmin> makara: Ah, well, then just do the release upgrade over the CLI: sudo do-release-upgrade
[09:08] <makara> theadmin, http://pastebin.com/dzzZnHLX
[09:08] <theadmin> makara: Seems like a problem with the mirror you are using
[09:09] <makara> theadmin, it was ftp south african server, then I changed to main server and still problem
[09:09] <theadmin> makara: Did you run sudo apt-get update after changing the server?
[09:10] <makara> lets try again
[09:10] <makara> using server for united states
[09:10] <theadmin> Anyways, I have to leave now. Hope you get it resolved.
[09:15] <makara> same error
[09:16] <miketomdool> btw makara I wouldn't use the -d option. according to the man pages that is if you want to upgrade to a devel release http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/en/man8/update-manager.8.html
[09:16] <miketomdool> the tutorial you are following was published before ubuntu 13.10 was officially out
[09:18] <makara> same problem here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2185602
[09:19] <impradeepy> makara:use a physical meduim
[09:22] <makara> why am I not allowed to fetch that type of file? (gpg)
[09:22] <makara> this guy claims to have solved it: http://www.rolandihasz.com/2013/10/solved-upgrading-ubuntu-1304-to-1310.html
[09:22] <makara> doesn't work for me
[09:23] <makara> it seems all I need to do is get that gpg file?
[09:24] <impradeepy> makara: i am not interested in your link,but i will suggest you proper way to upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10-use sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade after that open software updater then you should able to see 13.10 availabe for your computer
[09:24] <makara> impradeepy, tried all that
[09:25] <makara> I've got the gpg. Where can I put it?
[09:25] <synchroner> hi everyone
[09:26] <synchroner> i'm experiencing gnome-panel issues when connecting a second screen to my laptop
[09:26] <v0latil3> yay steam download is back up!
[09:26] <synchroner> when i connect VGA, both laptop display and the monitor just show a wallpaper and all panels disappear
[09:27] <makara> I think I got
[09:27]  * synchroner using 13.10 x86
[09:27] <makara> I installed apt-cacher. It will only cache packages for one distro
[09:28] <impradeepy> makara:show output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> makara: yes, the distro will be Ubuntu by default
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> !away > Thor|Away
[09:36] <makara> god I'm happy
[09:38] <apb1963> So I was messing around with the window manager and I'm not sure what I did, but now all of my chrome windows are "stuck together", in that when I move one window to a different virtual desktop, they all move.  Also, now the very top has a list of window titles.  Anybody know how I can "unstick" these windows and get ride of those extra window titles that weren't there before?
[09:38] <MonkeyDust> apb1963: what ubuntu version? in a terminal, type    cat /etc/issue
[09:39] <n13z> MonkeyDust: lsb_release -a ;)
[09:40] <assistente> if i install trusty i can use normally daily? is enough stable as desktop?
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> apb1963: right click the decoraor, maybe
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> assistente: trusty is officially not stable
[09:40] <apb1963> 12.04.3 LTS
[09:40] <apb1963> kde
[09:40] <assistente> ok, but if i install i can use the desktop without serious problems?
[09:40] <apb1963> ActionParsnip: the what?
[09:41] <Rory> assistente: It isn't stable yet, not until April
[09:41] <apb1963> MonkeyDust: 12.04.3 LTS
[09:41] <Ben64> assistente: 14.04 support and discussion in #ubuntu+1
[09:41] <Rory> assistente: If you use it, expect breakages
[09:41] <assistente> i can help to test, no problem
[09:41] <MonkeyDust> apb1963: 12.04.3 is what i use, but not KDE, i'm sure someone else can help better
[09:42] <apb1963> MonkeyDust: 'k, thanks
[09:44] <zorin> Hi everyone! I need help with sslstripping and "untrusted site notificitions" when using sslstrip, arpspoof, driftnet, ettecap, in ubuntu.
[09:45] <Rory> zorin: Is your question that you are stripping an SSL certificate as part of a MITM attack, and you're wondering why the browser is complaining?
[09:45] <Rory> zorin: The answer is; you can't get around that, it's the whole point of SSL.
[09:45] <MonkeyDust> !info sslstrip
[09:46] <zorin> Thanks Rory.
[09:46] <rodicio> Hi, With LXDE I can't to see in file properties how many free space I have. What is the faster way to see it?
[09:47] <Ben64> rodicio: df -h
[09:48] <G[zero]D> hi all
[09:48] <rodicio> gracias Ben64 Allá voy
[09:48] <rodicio> Thank you Ben64 here i go :)
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> apb1963: the bar across the top of the application, with close minimize etc, the window title. That is called the decorator
[10:08] <apb1963> ActionParsnip: ok....
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> apb1963: anything there relating to ungrouping etc?
[10:10] <apb1963> ActionParsnip: There are tons of options... finding the options is not the problem... knowing which specific option to change is the problem.
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> apb1963: that's all I can think of
[10:11] <apb1963> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> apb1963: what window manager are you using?
[10:15] <esion> hi all
[10:16] <apb1963> ActionParsnip: kwin
[10:16] <esion> hey im having trouble with installing a good copy of photoshop in ubuntu
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> esion: did you check the wine appdb?
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> esion: or you could use Gimp
[10:17] <esion> i have a working version but it has a bug i cant fix and no answer are on google
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> esion: I'd ask in #winehq
[10:19] <esion> ok thanks, any way im new to ubuntu so you'll see me around
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> apb1963: there may be a setting in keyboard shortcuts to group and ungroup. I've not used KDE in about 11 years
[10:19] <Touhou11> esion: You'll have more luck with older versions of Photoshop
[10:20] <apb1963> ActionParsnip: I just found it a few seconds ago... it's "untab".  What confused me was that it stuck all the the titles together at the top... so I thought there were 2 issues.   Plus, I didn't intentionally tab chrome windows to my knowledge... so, I wasn't expecting that to be the issue...
[10:21] <apb1963> ActionParsnip: But thank you for your efforts.... much appreciated!
[10:22] <apb1963> ActionParsnip: Oh and... it's not keyboard shortcuts... it's on the rightclick menu for the title bar
[10:22] <jumski> hey guys, i desperately need second eyes on my dualboot 2hdd setup, info from boot-repair posted here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6545141/
[10:23] <esion> what version?
[10:23] <jumski> i boot into "grub rescue" with an "error: device not found: [UUID]" (this uuid is a valid uuid of my ubuntu /boot, checked with blkid)
[10:23] <jumski> 13.10 (lubuntu flavour)
[10:23] <esion> what version of photoshop works best for wine
[10:24] <jumski> i have hdd as a main drive (win7) and a ssd with ubuntu in optical bay
[10:24] <jumski> ah:p
[10:28] <fishcooker> i've look https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros .. i see that i should install this package  linux-backports-modules- ... after i  apt-cache search linux-backports-modules-|more .. there is many package .. which one should i install?
[10:28] <someone> Hi
[10:30] <C4709> How can I use GTK theme for window over X forwarded season on Windows ?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> esion: the wine appdb will tell you which works better and in what verison of wine
[10:31] <C4709> default X theme over X fwd season looks ugly
[10:32] <Wiz_KeeD> They say that optimus devices have issues in ubuntu, this is the second laptop that i do not see on issue of...what's the deal?
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> C4709: http://askubuntu.com/questions/8620/use-local-button-styles-during-forwarded-x11-session-over-ssh
[10:33] <C4709> ActionParsnip: for "windows" is it possible to install gtk theme on windows ?
[10:33] <C4709> for MS Windows
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> C4709: you could add a windows theme on the server side, then use that
[10:34] <C4709> how can I do that ?
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> C4709: install a theme like you would normally, then use the guide I just linked toname the theme
[10:38] <C4709> ActionParsnip: I m currently using windows 8 there are many themes already present by default now how to tell xserver(windows version) to tell which theme to use ?
[10:39] <DF3D2> what the hell is wrong with xfce4-volume d, it stops showing the on screen display till i reboot -- killing the process + restarting does nothing
[10:40] <gordonjcp> DF3D2: XFCE is notoriously buggy
[10:40] <gordonjcp> DF3D2: you should use Unity
[10:40] <DF3D2> gordonjcp, i don't like unity :-\
[10:40] <DF3D2> and that is my only issue with xfce so far
[10:40] <xintron> If I install build-essential and then want to remove everything (including everything that was installed), how would I do that? remove/purge build-essential + autoremove keeps a LOT of stuff
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: you can use Unity in XFCE
[10:41] <DF3D2> its when i switch my audio output device to hdmi
[10:41] <DF3D2> xfce4-volumed takes a shit or osmething
[10:41] <DF3D2> something
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> C4709: install a theme, then set it as in the link I gave, see how this page says "raleigh" that is the theme being used: http://superuser.com/questions/69174/x11-looks-ugly-while-opening-a-remote-window-from-ssh-can-i-use-gtk-themes
[10:43] <DF3D2> what is good besides xfce ?
[10:44] <DF3D2> I used to use, i3 wm but wanted a break from it
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: LXDE
[10:44] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, lubuntu ?
[10:44] <DF3D2> never used it, ill give it a try
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: no, LXDE
[10:45] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, isn't that what is used in lubuntu ?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: just install lxde using your favourite package manager, log off and log in to the new LXDE session
[10:45] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, oh i'm installing lubuntu-desktop at the momen
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: yes it is the default DE in Lubuntu, with Openbox as the default WM
[10:46] <fishcooker> i've update the new kernel without notice to Linux 3.8.0-34-generic #49~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 13 18:08:04 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux.. as far as i know 3.2.x... how to switch back to original kernel 3.2x
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: installing the lubuntu metapackage will install a lot of other packages, like leafpad, audacious, osmo and so forth when all you want is the desktop environment
[10:46] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, im not limited on disk space so it's fine :-D
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: reboot, hold SHIFT and you can select the older kernel
[10:46] <DF3D2> brb gonna reboot in to lubuntu check it out
[10:46] <Sherrif> Hello
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: oh absolutely, but its just a bit of a waste imho
[10:48] <fishcooker> where is it on grub config?.. i want to check first from the grub config, ActionParsnip
[10:49] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, hmm the session manager isn't showing
[10:49] <DF3D2> odd
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: log off, then log in to the new session. You dont need to reboot
[10:49] <DF3D2> it's not showing the light login manager
[10:49] <DF3D2> or whatever they call it
[10:50] <DF3D2> only the xfce enter your p/w screen
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: run:   sudo apt-get install --reinstall lxde
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: what is teh output of:  cat /etc/issue
[10:50] <DF3D2> 13.10
[10:50] <DF3D2> and it's not showing the login manager at all, is what im saying
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: what is the full output please?
[10:51] <DF3D2> Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: thanks
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: which display manager do you use? Lightdm?
[10:52] <DF3D2> no idea im on xubuntu
[10:52] <DF3D2> but the screen thatr lets me pick sessions isn't showing when i log out
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: ok, look in /usr/share/xsessions
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: you should see one for LXDE or similar, if you open one with a text editor is it set to be hidden?
[10:53] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, yep lots of .desktop files
[10:53] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, Lubuntu.desktop says nothing about hidden
[10:53] <Hassen> hello all, whatever, whenever, and wherever you are.
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: can you please pastebin the file
[10:54] <DF3D2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6545245/
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: let me compare mine
[10:55] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, idk why it has a bunch of asian characters
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: its to accommodate other languages....
[10:55] <DF3D2> ok
[10:56] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, i think we have a mis communication though, What I am saying is the LOGIN MANAGER, whatever lets me select sessions doesn't show up at all anymore, it's now just an xubuntu login asking for my username/pw
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: try changing Type=Application to Type=XSession
[10:57] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, okay done, log out ?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: yes
[10:59] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, nah same screen, lets me log in to xubuntu only
[10:59] <freshmint> hey, i just figured out that there is a /usr/sbin/tor daemon constantly running on my ubuntu 12.04, i presume this is not supposed to be a default configuration how can i desable it? i might have installed it oneday to try out tor though didnt intend to install a tor relay, but just wanted a client
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: check the xubuntu session file you have and compare to the lxde one, see if there are any extra lines
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> freshmint: no its not even default installed in Ubuntu
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> freshmint: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:00] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, what folder were they in again ?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: /usr/share/xsessions
[11:00] <freshmint> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> freshmint: strange, somebody must have installed it#
[11:01] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6545273/ -- brb a minute taking my dog out
[11:01] <freshmint> ActionParsnip, i believe it was me. i tried tor once
[11:01] <freshmint> ActionParsnip, instead of going for the browser client only i probably tried installing tor by package
[11:02] <manas> haello everyone. ia m hoping somebody can assit with connecting too hoime wifi . i just installed 13.10 and it no longer works, although ethernet is fine. tank you
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> manas: what wifi chip are you using? We need that detail....
[11:02] <guest|98313> hello
[11:02] <guest|98313> anyone there
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> guest|98313: many
[11:03] <[Gentoo]> theres always people in here
[11:03] <guest|98313> i would really appreciate your help
[11:03] <guest|98313> my ubuntu has been modified to automatically download album art for files
[11:03] <guest|98313> how do i turn this off
[11:03] <freshmint> ActionParsnip, guess i found it and deleted it now. i will try a reboot and see if it is gone. cu soon
[11:03] <manas> guest|98313, tht sounds wesome
[11:03] <guest|98313> my ubuntu has been modified to download cover art for files i want to turn this feature off
[11:04] <[Gentoo]> guest|98313: do you mean in a music player
[11:04] <guest|98313> no any file
[11:04] <Tachik> guest => you dont want to download any covert art ?
[11:04] <fidel_> guest|98313: i guess some music player does that
[11:04] <guest|98313> it looks for cover art for an y file
[11:04] <[Gentoo]> yeah
[11:04] <guest|98313> i want this off now if possible
[11:04] <[Gentoo]> probably whatever music player you use, in the options
[11:04] <guest|98313> someone help please
[11:04] <[Gentoo]> some download art, lyrics etx
[11:05] <guest|98313> it has nothing to do with the music player i don't htinlk
[11:05] <guest|98313> it does it for all files
[11:05] <guest|98313> it's weird
[11:05] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, okay back, any idea what is going on ?
[11:05] <manas> ActionParsnip, Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[11:05] <[Gentoo]> guest|98313: what music player do you use
[11:05] <DF3D2> maybe I could just reinstall the session manager, what is it called ?
[11:05] <[Gentoo]> maybe it scans for all music files
[11:05] <guest|98313> which music player does that
[11:05] <[Gentoo]> i dont know
[11:05] <philinux> ActionParsnip;~ remember the hard drive temp thing I had a few days ago
[11:05] <manas> speaking of music, Rhythmbox doesnt work with mp3s
[11:06] <manas> i haven't tried Guayadeque yet though
[11:06] <[Gentoo]> if you just wana play songs, cli players are the best
[11:06] <DF3D2> x-session-manager ?
[11:06] <manas> wow im gonna be such a hacker
[11:06] <guest|98313> can i set my firewall not to allow unauthorized internet access to prevent this?????????????
[11:06] <Hassen> manas, good luck
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> philinux: what was the issue?
[11:07] <[Gentoo]> guest|98313: you could
[11:07] <[Gentoo]> but itd be a pita
[11:07] <guest|98313> how?
[11:07] <guest|98313> what firewall program?
[11:07] <[Gentoo]> it must be in the options of whatever player you're using
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> [Gentoo]: im sure users in 2013 like pretty GUIs ;)
[11:07] <DF3D2> oh light display manafer
[11:07] <[Gentoo]> as file managers dont do this
[11:07] <DF3D2> light display manager
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> guest|98313: what media player are you using?
[11:07] <philinux> ActionParsnip;~ you know that hddtemp needed sudo access well a solution came using udisks without needing sudo
[11:07] <[Gentoo]> ActionParsnip: yeah i guess, but i think the cli can be pretty with nice .Xresources in a minimal way
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> philinux: yes
[11:08] <philinux> ActionParsnip;~ this is the conky line  ${execi 60 udisks --show-info /dev/sda | grep temp | cut -c 52-54}
[11:08] <manas> Gentoo: i think i have to learn ... a lot ... to do that
[11:08] <philinux> ActionParsnip;~ no sudo needed
[11:08] <[Gentoo]> manas: i use ncmpcpp which takes a little bit of config with mpd, but cmus works out the box
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> philinux: ok cool
[11:08] <DF3D2> [Gentoo], mpd + ncmpcpp is godlike
[11:09] <[Gentoo]> manas: if you like tinkering you could try it and you never know you might really like it
[11:09] <[Gentoo]> DF3D2: yes
[11:09] <[Gentoo]> it is
[11:09] <DF3D2> b een using it for years
[11:09] <philinux> ActionParsnip;~ why udisks dont need sudo but hddtemp does is a mysterr
[11:09] <DF3D2> anyway ActionParsnip any guidance man?
[11:09] <manas> Gentoo: I am tryingthx
[11:09] <guest|98313> what are the main musioc players
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> philinux: did you setuid on the binary?
[11:10] <[Gentoo]> guest|98313: theres loads
[11:10] <manas> Gentoo, that is pretty cool i must admit.
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: not seeig anything spectacularly weird. I can give you a file of mine if you want
[11:10] <philinux> ActionParsnip;~ no , I decided to use udisks instead
[11:10] <guest|98313> does gnome or vlc do this
[11:10] <[Gentoo]> manas: theres a cli program for almost anything
[11:10] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, should i try reinstalling lightdm ?
[11:10] <manas> Gentoo, :O
[11:10] <[Gentoo]> guest|98313: its more than likely a player, you still havent said what you use
[11:11] <[Gentoo]> i dont know about vlc, but it does have a lot of features
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | manas
[11:12] <philinux> ActionParsnip;~ this gives a load of info udisks --show-info /dev/sda
[11:12] <guest|98313> vlc is set to  manual album art downoad so that should be fine
[11:13] <[Gentoo]> ok
[11:13] <[Gentoo]> guest|98313: just saying, im pretty sure no other program would download that stuff
[11:13] <A1Recon> Can someone tell me how the audible ping works?? And also does it use the PC speaker? or the motherboard speaker?
[11:15] <Guest27207> hello everyone , i have problem with add PPA in ubuntu 13.10
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> guest|98313: problem in what way?
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> Guest27207: ppa's are not supported here, contact the maintainer
[11:20] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, good news, I figured it out, bad news: i'm an idiot
[11:20] <DF3D2> lol
[11:21] <Guest27207> PPA dosen't any problem , ubuntu 13.10 have this bug .
[11:22] <dinesh_> Hi
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: what was the magic bullet?
[11:24] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, realizing it was showing a session manager all along, i was just blind and not seeing the button to change the session
[11:24] <DF3D2> >.<
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: d'oh
[11:24] <DF3D2> yep
[11:24] <DF3D2> and lxe is very snappy
[11:25] <DF3D2> kind of ugly, but i'm sure i can theme it
[11:25] <DF3D2> lxde*
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: `well, welcome to light and airy LXDE, where crashes are few and resources used are low :)
[11:25] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, yeah it uses like 500 less ram than xfce and that is with firefox/xchat open
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: of loads, i have a PPA enabled to make it look like the defalt ambiance theme in Gnome :)
[11:25] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, do you know of any good on screen display programs for volume control?
[11:26] <[Gentoo]> DF3D2: turqoise nights is a nice theme for openbox
[11:26] <j_> how to share host folders in ubuntu studio 13.10 64 bit in virtual Box with win7 64 bit host
[11:26] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, it has an osd for brightness, but not volume
[11:26] <[Gentoo]> DF3D2: and greybird / flatstudio for gtk theme
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/quantal/gnome-alsamixer/   maybe....
[11:27] <DF3D2> ugh im not gonna be able to use lxde tho. it is missing the option in mouse settings to disable mouse clicking when touching the trckpad
[11:28] <[Gentoo]> DF3D2: install "gpointing-device-settings"
[11:28] <[Gentoo]> according to google
[11:28] <[Gentoo]> add the command to autostart
[11:29] <DF3D2> [Gentoo], ahh awesome, got it installed -- can u link to the page that shows how to add the cmd to start?
[11:29] <gyre008> is keepalived project still alive ?
[11:29] <[Gentoo]> DF3D2: im not sure how on lxde
[11:29] <[Gentoo]> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1457053
[11:30] <[Gentoo]> .config/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart
[11:30] <[Gentoo]> maybe
[11:31] <[Gentoo]> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LXDE#autostart_file
[11:31] <DJones> gyre008: Its in the Saucy repo's http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=keepalived&searchon=names&suite=saucy&section=all
[11:31] <gyre008> keepalived.org is timing out....
[11:31] <gyre008> that's why I asked
[11:31] <DJones> gyre008: Its working for me, I was just checking the version numbers
[11:31] <[Gentoo]> gyre008: works here
[11:32] <DF3D2> [Gentoo], awesome thanks now I just need to find some skinning app
[11:32] <[Gentoo]> DF3D2: lxappearance
[11:32] <gyre008> mmm
[11:32] <DF3D2> [Gentoo], haha thanks
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/09122013.png :)
[11:32] <[Gentoo]> DF3D2: for themes
[11:32] <DJones> gyre008: 1.2.9 was released October/November according to the website
[11:32] <DF3D2> wow on my i5 laptop lxde is way snappier than xubuntu
[11:32] <DF3D2> kind of nuts, it's like night and day -- and xfce wasn't slow to begin with
[11:32] <[Gentoo]> its a bit lighter
[11:33] <gyre008> www.keepalived.org ?
[11:33] <DF3D2> it feels "alot" lighter
[11:33] <DF3D2> lol
[11:33] <gyre008> I wonder if my ISP is blocking it :-)
[11:33] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, what theme is that!?
[11:33] <[Gentoo]> on a modern machine you wont notice anything faster than lxde etc
[11:33] <DF3D2> so nice looking
[11:33] <DJones> gyre008: Yes http://www.keepalived.org/
[11:33] <[Gentoo]> DF3D2: xfce with no comp should still be snappy
[11:33] <gyre008> yeah timing out for me....crazy
[11:33] <DF3D2> [Gentoo], I used to use i3wm but i'm taking a break
[11:33] <[Gentoo]> yeah thats what i use
[11:34] <DF3D2> I wanted a more conventional desktop for a bit
[11:34] <[Gentoo]> yeah
[11:34] <DF3D2> i3 is truly amazing tho, when u got all ur keybinds done
[11:34] <DF3D2> super productive
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: free -m | head -n 3 | tail -n 1 | awk {'print $3'}     will show used RAM :)
[11:34] <[Gentoo]> it is
[11:34] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, 509/4gb :-)
[11:34] <DF3D2> with firefox/chat
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: exactly
[11:35] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, xubuntu was about 800-1100
[11:35] <DF3D2> seems i won't need a second ram chip afterall 4gb should be plenty
[11:35] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, what theme are you using tho, i want it
[11:35] <[Gentoo]> 4gb will do anything
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: Linux is light, reuses libs in RAM and on the HDD too
[11:35] <[Gentoo]> unless you use vms
[11:35] <[Gentoo]> or zfs
[11:35] <gyre008> yup guys
[11:35] <DF3D2> yea im so happy with this laptop
[11:35] <gyre008> works on my phone :-)
[11:36] <DF3D2> for 329 everything works on ubuntu too
[11:36] <gyre008> my ISP is blocking this hahah
[11:36] <gyre008> MAN
[11:36] <gyre008> w0000t ?!
[11:36] <[Gentoo]> gyre008: proxy?
[11:36] <DJones> gyre008: Maybe try using a proxy like hidemyass.com just to see if its your ISP or just a routing problem, I'd give you the direct link I've just tried but as it gives an encrypted link it could be to any dodgy site so I'd rather you went direct
[11:37] <gyre008> DJones: yep...works fine :-)
[11:37] <DJones> gyre008: Could be a dns/routing problem rather than deliberate blocking by the isp
[11:38] <gyre008> could be
[11:41] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, can I get the ppa for that theme pretty please :-)
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: sure let me find it
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ravefinity-project/ppa; sudo apt-get update
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: sudo apt-get install ambiance-xfce-lxde
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: then use the openbox customise tool and so forth and set the theme as so
[11:44] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, lxappearance ?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: yes that sort of jazz
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: can even set the icon set to humanity, the menus t use the ubuntu font and switch the max, min buttons to the left
[11:45] <DF3D2> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ravefinity-project/ppa; sudo apt-get update
[11:45] <DF3D2> says it cant download the packages
[11:45] <DF3D2> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ravefinity-project/ppa/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[11:45] <DF3D2> that was when I did sudo apt-get instal ambiance-xfce-lxde
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: seems to only suppot up to raring
[11:45] <DF3D2> ahh okay.
[11:45] <DF3D2> so I need open box themes, not gtk themes?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: could switch the repo to raring then install
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: its just a few theme files
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: yes openbox themes
[11:47] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, how do I change it to raring?
[11:50] <amireldor> Is there a `mutter` settings manager? I use gnome-shell and I want to change the Initiate Window Resize With Mouse shortcut
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ravefinity-project-ppa-saucy.list    should do it
[11:53] <gyre008> on another note...is anyone using keepalived for HA Load Balancers ?
[11:54] <ahmad> 06071995
[11:55] <ahmad> haii
[11:55] <ahmad> haii friend
[11:56] <bonhoeffer> when booting i get the ubuntu logo with the 5 dots for a very very long time -- options?
[11:56] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, hmm installed a theme but it looks nothing like it said it would
[11:56] <ahmad> hai bre
[11:57] <ahmad> dika lagi pucing belat nich
[11:57] <CatKiller> bonhoeffer: You haven't rebooted in a long time and Ubuntu goes through the much needed "fsck" step
[11:57] <CatKiller> bonhoeffer: Does that happen rarelyt>?
[11:57] <Rory> whois ahmad
[11:57] <bonhoeffer> having troubles -- don't really know -- but how long is reasonable to wait?
[11:57] <ahmad> ape?
[11:57] <Rory> ahmad: You have an Ubuntu support question>
[11:58] <bonhoeffer> i'm sure it depends -- but won't be an hour will it
[11:58] <CatKiller> depends of your disk/cpu
[11:58] <CatKiller> could be 45 minutes
[11:58] <DJones> ahmad: Do you have an Ubuntu support question, if so feel free to ask it, but please remember that this channel is English language only
[11:58] <ahmad> oh no i cant
[11:58] <fishcooker> is there any tools to test network connection result?
[11:58] <ahmad> yes i sure
[11:58] <Rory> ahmad: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[11:59] <bonhoeffer> CatKiller: so, waiting for 30 minutes is not a bad idea . . .
[11:59] <ahmad> ah embung ada kamu sih :(
[11:59] <CatKiller> Could be something else
[11:59] <CatKiller> you didn't tell me how often this happens
[11:59] <CatKiller> You said you didn't know
[12:00] <CatKiller> which sounds to me like it's seldom
[12:00] <CatKiller> in any case: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9932250/how-to-auto-respond-to-fsck-prompt-at-boot
[12:00] <CatKiller> that's to show the progress on screen
[12:01] <Gr1m> does anybody know how to start ubuntu without X in a virtualbox setup ?
[12:01] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, last question and ill leave you alone: when I install an open box theme, it doesn't show up for widgets in lxappearance
[12:01] <DF3D2> are widgets gtk themes?
[12:02] <gordonjcp> Gr1m: same way you'd start it without X on any other platform
[12:02] <Guest34600> hi
[12:02] <Gr1m> gordonjcp: But virtualbox does not show grub
[12:02] <gordonjcp> Gr1m: should do
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> DF3D2: use the openbox appearence app
[12:03] <gordonjcp> Gr1m: are you booting the virtual machine with shift held down?
[12:03] <Gr1m> gordonjcp: no
[12:03] <Guest34600> hi
[12:04] <gordonjcp> Gr1m: give that a shot
[12:04] <Gr1m> gordonjcp: Trying
[12:04] <Gr1m> gordonjcp: It works. Thanks
[12:05] <EcHarabianroot> hello
[12:07] <DF3D2> ActionParsnip, I got it figured, I needed gtk themes for widgets.gtk apps
[12:07] <ahmad> haii guys
[12:07] <EcHarabianroot> hi ahmad
[12:09] <ahmad> haii Echarabainroot
[12:09] <ahmad> haii Echarabianroot
[12:10] <ahmad> what  you version ubuntu
[12:12] <duffduff> any known issues with empathy on 12.04? I'm not sure why but for a few weeks that it stopped working on all accounts (facebook, gtalk- 2 different accounts)
[12:15] <ahmad> Haii All
[12:15] <ahmad> I am from Indonesia
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> !id
[12:19] <ahmad> hai nanne
[12:19] <ahmad> s
[12:21] <kasper> hey guys, ive been messing around with my sound to get my headphones to work, but i think i might have messed things up too badly. Is there a way to reset to factory settings?
[12:21] <kasper> atleast for the audio
[12:21] <ahmad> oiii
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> ahmad: did you have a question?
[12:22] <Ben64> ahmad: this is NOT a chat channel. this is for ubuntu support only and only in English
[12:25] <Beautiful_Mind> hi
[12:25] <kasper> i tried to purge alsa-base pulseaudio en reinstalling
[12:26] <ahmad> hi Beautiful mind
[12:26] <ahmad> How do you do all
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> kasper: killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*; rm -r ~/.conifig/pulse*     will do it
[12:28] <kasper> ahh let me try that
[12:29] <kasper> rm: cannot remove ‘/home/kasper/.pulse*’: No such file or directory
[12:29] <kasper> rm: cannot remove ‘/home/kasper/.conifig/pulse*’: No such file or directory
[12:29] <ahmad> haii
[12:29] <Luthfi> hai to
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> kasper: yes, one of the pair will fail
[12:29] <kasper> yea it got rid of the config
[12:30] <kasper> after i fixed the type
[12:30] <ahmad> Whats are you
[12:30] <kasper> tpyo
[12:30] <kasper> haha
[12:30] <Luthfi> how are you
[12:30] <Luthfi> kasper how do you come from
[12:30] <kasper> i cant type typo sor somereason
[12:30] <ahmad> haii bibi 346
[12:30] <kasper> I'm from holland.
[12:30] <bibi346> is there a significative difference between those 2 terms : "RAM" and "Shared memory"?
[12:31] <Luthfi> hai salenix
[12:31] <ahmad> haii tvw
[12:31] <saleniex> hi all
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> bibi346: in what context?
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> bibi346: start from the beginning, what makes you want to know that?
[12:33] <Luthfi> Did you know robben?
[12:34] <Luthfi> kaspee :Did you know robben?
[12:34] <kasper> you mean the soccer player ?
[12:34] <Luthfi> yes
[12:35] <DJones> Luthfi: Do you have an Ubuntu support question, if so you're welcome to ask it here, but please bear in mind that the channel is for Ubuntu support issues in the English language only
[12:36] <kasper> well my sound issue still isnt solved tbh
[12:36] <Luthfi> Djones: im sorry
[12:36] <bibi346> ActionParsnip MonkeyDust : not any particular context, I'm wondering if those two terms can be commutable, or if they designate different things.
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> kasper: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[12:37] <DJones> Luthfi: No problem, if you do want a chat channel, you could join #ubuntu-offtopic which is more of a general discussion channel rather than just support
[12:37] <Wiz_KeeD> wassup everyone?
[12:38] <Beautiful_Mind> hi
[12:38] <Beautiful_Mind> hi
[12:38] <kasper> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=231f69475b23b9deb2fa1e8386b846bc7d5552d6
[12:38] <jrib> bibi346: usually one speaks of "resident memory" and "shared memory".  Some of each can be in physical RAM but it can also be in swap for example
[12:39] <jrib> bibi346: afaik
[12:39] <Luthfi>  #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:39] <jrib> bibi346: maybe resident also implies it's in physical ram, not sure
[12:40] <kasper> ahh i just tried my headphones .. and thats working tho
[12:42] <kasper> ok so thats good news.. headphones work now, but speakers dont
[12:42] <kasper> (my headphones are a gamecom plantronics 780)
[12:42] <kasper> terrible linux support for it.
[12:42] <bibi346> jrib: ok, so basically "RAM" implies "shared memory" but not the opposite, "shared memory" can be something else than "RAM", for example as you said swap?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> kasper: if you run:   alsamixer    are all levels maxed and unmuted?
[12:43] <fuga> hello
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> kasper: does the system have a make and mnodel?
[12:43] <jrib> bibi346: in what context?
[12:43] <Luthfi> fuga:hello to
[12:44] <kasper> spdifs seem to be at 0% volume
[12:44] <bibi346> jrib: I don't have any context, I'm just trying to learn :)
[12:44] <fuga> someone can help me please? i have some problems to configure my postfix/dovecot server...
[12:44] <kasper> how do i get m up?
[12:44] <sw> !ask | fuga
[12:44] <jrib> bibi346: top answer here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/561245/virtual-memory-usage-from-java-under-linux-too-much-memory-used has a pretty good explanation
[12:44] <jrib> bibi346: better than I can do :)
[12:45] <Luthfi> what is a good linux?\
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Luthfi: there is only one linux, just different versions
[12:45] <NuSuey> Got a question.. what is the difference between 12.04 and 13.10 - if I'm using the same kernel, yet .. 13.10 detects my HDMI (intel video output), but 12.04 doesnt? :o what could I do to 12.04 to change that?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> NuSuey: differnet XOrg, driver and application versions. Also 12.04 is LTS and the others are not
[12:46] <kasper> ohh it seems i cant change those spdiff volumes
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> NuSuey: any review can tell you "what's new"
[12:46] <Luthfi> oh, what versi?
[12:47] <NuSuey> MonkeyDust: sigh.. I wasn't looking into WHATS new in the new version.. I was talking just about driver-thingies
[12:47] <fuga> impossible to receive mail...my domain is correctly configure...my port are open...but nothing...to send it's ok because i use a isp/relay...
[12:48] <NuSuey> ActionParsnip: and can you update the xorg in 12.04 to the version what 13.10 has?
[12:48] <bibi346> jrib: ok thx I'm gonna check this out
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> NuSuey: there may be a newer version  in the backports repo
[12:49] <philinux> NuSuey;~ newer kernels include support for more hardware
[12:50] <kasper> wow guess what? i just turned on analog output- built-in audio device, and it DOES give me sound, but its got alot of static for some reason
[12:50] <fuga> if someone can look with teamviewer...it will be great.
[12:50] <philinux> NuSuey;~ not sure why 13.10 gets your hdmi but 12.04 doesnt
[12:51] <Luthfi> backtrack linux but what?
[12:51] <ahmad> My grub in ubuntu is close why
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> Luthfi: backtrack is not supported here
[12:51] <NuSuey> ActionParsnip: uh, but when I have all the repos enabled? :/
[12:51] <DND_> guys i need help. i wanted to create user but i only want him to browse certain folders (like /doc/demo1 but they cannot browse /doc)
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> NuSuey: there is an updated PPA (dont use the edgers one) may help but its not really advise and is not supported here if you get issues
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> Luthfi: ask in #backtrack-linux
[12:52] <kasper> ahh i think its the mic boost
[12:53] <NuSuey> ActionParsnip: what's the ppa?
[12:53] <Luthfi> actionparsnip: i just question
[12:53] <jrmy> ok, so seeing as ubuntu is only 700MB I want to put it on my flash drive.. I just don't know how to do this with windows. I guess I could also install it by booting from a install cd and selecting the flashdrive for the partition. what would be the less time consuming method?
[12:54] <ahmad> how install wine
[12:55] <kasper> HAH it fixed it! thanks a million ActionParsnip
[12:56] <ahmad> haii
[12:57] <ahmad> haii thanks all
[12:58] <NuSuey> ActionParsnip: because I dont have a clue what the new updated ppa is (for 12.04)
[13:00] <aptget> ahmad: you can install from synaptic or software manager
[13:00] <ahmad> yes
[13:01] <jrmy> well, can you install ubuntu on a flashdrive?
[13:01] <ahmad> Yes im that know
[13:02] <saleniex> Does anyone know is there LTE supported in ModemManager using Dbus?
[13:03] <ahmad> how where how to install theme
[13:03] <ahmad> in ubuntu
[13:05] <ahmad> 5
[13:05] <ahmad> 060795
[13:09] <ahmad> haii
[13:09] <Luthfi> ahmad: hai juga
[13:09] <Rory> !indonesian
[13:11] <ahmad> Indonesiaa
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> NuSuey: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[13:11] <puffinho> ubuntu-it
[13:11] <puffinho> ...sorry .,..maybe someone please direct me in ubuntu-it chat !??!?
[13:11] <Luthfi> how to install theme in ubuntu 12:04?
[13:11] <ahmad> ok guys
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> puffinho: type:  "/join #ubuntu-it"    without the quotes
[13:12] <puffinho> thanks !
[13:12] <philinux> ahmad;~ http://askubuntu.com/questions/213697/how-can-i-install-themes
[13:13] <duffduff> any known issues with empathy on 12.04? I'm not sure why but for a few weeks that it stopped working on all accounts (facebook, gtalk- 2 different accounts) or any tricks to try and get empathy working again?
[13:13] <ahmad> thanks philinux
[13:13] <msdw> Luthfi download my unity
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> duffduff: if you make a new ubuntu user and log in as that, do the same accounts work in Empathy?
[13:14] <tuxedo> hello everyone here
[13:15] <duffduff> ActionParsnip: I can try that, good idea!
[13:16] <ahmad> philinux : thanks
[13:16] <philinux> ahmad;~ just do a net search for> ubuntu install themes , you'll get more ways
[13:16] <amireldor> How do I change the shortcut to initiate window resize in GNOME-shell?
[13:17] <Luthfi> how to install  SQL SREVER?
[13:18] <msdw> Amireldo just create a profile
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> Luthfi: sudo apt-get install mysql
[13:18] <Luthfi> action: thanks
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> !lamp | Luthfi
[13:19] <Luthfi> ubottu: what It is LAMP?
[13:23] <ahmad> Haii I am from Indonesia
[13:24] <Ben64> ahmad: please stop spamming, this is not a chat channel, where you are from has no relevance to ubuntu support
[13:26] <ahmad> I have to say Woow trus
[13:28] <ice9> is release upgrade from apt-get safe?
[13:28] <impradeepy> ice9:yes
[13:28] <ice9> impradeepy, what if something failed?
[13:29] <ice9> impradeepy, its a vps
[13:29] <Ben64> what do you mean exactly "release upgrade from apt-get"
[13:29] <impradeepy> ice9:how much is your net speed?
[13:30] <ice9> impradeepy, it's a remote vps in a DC so it's fast but I'm afraid if something failed, my server will be down
[13:30] <Ben64> ice9: what do you mean exactly "release upgrade from apt-get"
[13:30] <impradeepy> ice9:thats why we use backups
[13:31] <impradeepy> ice9:if something like server down etc,,, then do not worry it will again resume
[13:33] <impradeepy> ice9:as a friendly advice always use backups, remove all externall ppas before upgrading :)
[13:33] <Kartagis> Ben64: I'm assuming he means upgrade version
[13:33] <ice9> thanks impradeepy
[13:33] <Ben64> Kartagis: but thats not apt-get
[13:33] <Kartagis> right
[13:34] <Ben64> which is why i asked for clarification, but i seem to be ignored
[13:34] <impradeepy> ice9:ok, good luck
[13:34] <Kartagis> ice9: don't ignore Ben64, dammit
[13:34] <Jpmh> I want to modify the @INC BEFORE the use is executed, how do I do this?
[13:34] <Kartagis> there, that should teach him
[13:35] <Kartagis> Jpmh: it looks like a #perl question
[13:36] <Jpmh> Kartagis: oops - yes = I have two windows open - sorry - and ty
[13:36]  * Kartagis nods
[13:38] <ziemowit_> why my fresh installed xubuntu 13.10 doesn't show my eth0 card? when i installed previous versions of ubuntu it was always visible, and liveCD also saw this net card...
[13:44] <esde> I have OpenVPN set up on Ubuntu Server 12.04. ANd I have pfsense setup as the OpenVPN Client. Right now pfsense is connected to openvpn and my lan clients are using the encrypted internet. However, If i create a rule on pfsense box to forward out port 443 on local ip 192.168.1.1 through port 9865 on the openvpn interface/ip, it still shows closed to the open internet. Is there any extra config i need to do on the ubuntu server side of things? http://storage
[13:44] <esde> 6.static.itmages.com/i/13/1209/h_1386596656_8688166_d70f30068b.png OPT1 is my OpenVPN interface, not sure why OpenVPN is on the next tab or what it does
[13:45] <esde> link in case the split message broked it http://storage6.static.itmages.com/i/13/1209/h_1386596656_8688166_d70f30068b.png
[13:48] <Joshy> Guys, my names Josh. I  released a MMORPG on the 5th called Helbreath. I would love your feedback on the website and the game its self >> http://hbserver.org
[13:51] <funkt> anyone  have any ideas why my localhost lamp is taking forever to load pages?
[13:54] <makish> someone who uses freerdp in here that can help me?
[13:54] <kwmiebach> Hi, I installed from 13.04 server and later installed unity. There is one user only. When trying to add a user using th unity gui there seem to be no permissions. Do I have to add the user to some group for being able to add a user over the gui or how do you do this
[13:55] <kwmiebach> in application - user accounts all is locked and no way to unlock
[13:56] <Touhou11> funkt: Even static HTML pages? Could you be your hosts configuration
[13:57] <funkt> any ideas on where to look?
[13:57] <kwmiebach> user is in groups adm, sudo , dip, plugdev
[13:58] <kwmiebach> is there a group that gives permision to add a new user over the gui or how can this be doen
[13:58] <kwmiebach> done
[13:58] <Touhou11> funkt: /etc/hosts
[13:58] <funkt> no static html seems fine
[13:58] <Touhou11> funkt: It's not the hosts file then
[13:58] <funkt> whats in the hosts file?
[13:59] <Touhou11> funkt: Mapping of hostnames to ip address. You shouldn't normally need to alter it
[13:59] <funkt> there isnt a hosts directory
[13:59] <Touhou11> funkt: The file is "hosts" in directory /etc
[13:59] <funkt> /etc/hosts
[13:59] <funkt> oh in etc
[14:00] <Touhou11> If static pages load quickly though, it's some other part of the configuration or your code
[14:00] <knightshade> hello
[14:00] <funkt> sorry but I dont have etc/hosts
[14:02] <funkt> like trying to load google fonts or something externally?
[14:09] <MrM0bius> hi
[14:11] <MrM0bius> I was working on some PCs with Ubuntu at a local school and somehow a few of them were switched from Russian into English. I want to switch them back into Russian but it doesn't seem possible. The school does not have an internet connection. Would it be possible to download a Russian language pack to a flash drive and install it on the computers?
[14:12] <Touhou11> funkt: It could be any number of things. What is it specifically which is loading slowly, some bespoke code you've written?
[14:13] <Touhou11> MrM0bius: http://askubuntu.com/questions/284609/is-that-possible-to-install-language-pack-offlinely
[14:14] <r0ber> hello buneas tardes :(
[14:15] <EDinNY> I am running saucy on my laptop. The display DIMS when I PLUG IN the power cord. How can I reverse this?
[14:15] <Brick85> Hello! Does anybody use Smuxi for IRCing? Do you have working indicator?
[14:15] <Brick85> I'm tired with it :) It always starts a new instance
[14:15] <Brick85> but if there is new messages, then it opens old process
[14:16] <Brick85> And when window is hidden i cant use xdotool or wmctrl to check instance
[14:16] <Touhou11> EDinNY: Pull out the power cord?
[14:17] <Rory> EDinNY: I think if you go to power settings there are two tabs
[14:17] <EDinNY> LOL, but eventually the battery goes dead
[14:17] <Rory> EDinNY: One for on AC power, one for on battery. Both have their own brightness settings
[14:17] <EDinNY> I don't see a control for the display brightness
[14:17] <EDinNY> using XFCE
[14:18] <Rory> EDinNY: Try asking in #xubuntu
[14:19] <EDinNY> thanks
[14:19] <Brick85> No one uses Smuxi?
[14:19] <Rory> EDinNY: If you install gnome-power-manager [I think] you get something like this http://imgur.com/YhZxxpy
[14:20] <Rory> Brick85: People in #smuxi probably do
[14:20] <Brick85> Rory: great idea! Thanks
[14:20] <deroy> What is the most recommended image burning software for windows to burn the Ubuntu ISO to a CD?
[14:20] <Rory> Brick85: Hopefully they don't just send you back here :3
[14:21] <MrM0bius> Touhou11, thank you
[14:21] <Rory> deroy: The built-in one
[14:21] <Brick85> Rory: :)
[14:21] <deroy> Windows got one build in?!
[14:21] <Touhou11> deroy: Windows 7 does, not XP I believe
[14:21] <Rory> deroy: double-click it, it should open in disk burner
[14:22] <Rory> deroy: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows7/burn-a-cd-or-dvd-from-an-iso-file
[14:22] <deroy> And that will burn with autorun?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> deroy: all are fine, just burn slowly and not with the Windows default inbuilt one
[14:22] <ankles> Hi all, I am trying to connect to an sftp service on port 31. I have connected to a VPN service to get around my local router but it doesn't seem like port 31 is going through the VPN. Any ideas?
[14:22] <Rory> !install | deroy
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> deroy: imgburn is free and groovy, if you have nero etc then that is fine too
[14:22] <ankles> I am using lubuntu
[14:23] <ankles> and the vpn standard is openvpn
[14:23] <deroy> http://files2.digital-digest.com/static/SetupImgBurn_2.5.8.0.exe that's nice 403 forbidden :D
[14:25] <anomaly> running xubuntu, but no one responded on #xubuntu; video card quit working.  so, I replaced it.  now x refuses to load properly.  how would I go about reconfiguring it to use the new card?
[14:25] <Wiz_KeeD> anomaly, the anomaly ?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> deroy: http://infrarecorder.org/?page_id=5 also exists
[14:28] <evon> I recovered a HD using DDRescue and it created an image file "data2.img" the drive was NTFS with 2 partitions.  The reason I had to recover it was because one of the partitions got lost and my computer has not been able to mount at all.  How do I mount this image so I can access the files? i've tried mount and ntfs-3g to no avail
[14:30] <andreia> join #python
[14:31] <knightshade> evon: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/69363/mount-single-partition-from-image-of-entire-disk-device
[14:32] <evon> knightshade.  Thanks I will try it right now
[14:32] <Rory> ankles: evon I've had to do this in the past so if you have any specific problems with those instructions let me know
[14:32] <Rory> ankles: sorry hilighted by mistake
[14:33] <evon> Rory thanks. I'm about to try it now.  I will let you know the results
[14:33] <deroy> http://i.imgur.com/AxMQ2PK.png What do?
[14:34] <Rory> deroy: You need to use a DVD not a CD
[14:34] <Rory> deroy: You can also use a USB flash drive
[14:35] <deroy> I need an Distro which is small for only testing my keyboard
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> deroy: tinycore
[14:36] <Rory> can confirm, tinycore is exceedingly small
[14:36] <Touhou11> deroy: Arch Linux or Gentoo
[14:36] <evon> knightshade, rory.  I cant follow the instructions in that link because the partition from the drive I'm recovering from is lost
[14:36] <deroy> I'm not a regular linux user. Arch and gentoo are too complicated
[14:36] <Rory> evon: So you need to recover data?
[14:37] <Rory> deroy: deroy Puppy Linux, it's small and has a GUI
[14:37] <Touhou11> deroy: Anybody is capable of using Arch Linux or Gentoo, they're not especially technical.
[14:37] <evon> Rory. Yes from a .img file I created using ddrescue
[14:38] <evon> Rory. I tried testdisk on the drive first but that didn't help
[14:39] <Rory> evon: Sorry for your loss :|
[14:39] <knightshade> evon: and you can't mount the partition in the image file like described in the first answer there?
[14:39] <deroy> Puppy linux got a live disk? As in i can use it without installation?
[14:40] <evon> knightshade the instructions call for me to calculate some stuff based on the start of the partition.  But I can't calculate it because there was not partition in the image. so there is no starting sector
[14:41] <Rory> deroy: Not sure. For distro-agnostic discussion I recommend joining ##linux - I'd take a look at Slax though, they are a live system http://www.slax.org/
[14:42] <knightshade> evon: there should be a partition table in the image file, if you made an image of the whole drive with ddrescue
[14:42] <deroy> ok
[14:43] <knightshade> evon: have you tried the fdisk command 'sudo fdisk -lu your_image_file.img'?
[14:43] <Touhou11> I recommend SystemRescueCD as the best "problem-solving" Live CD, comes with a lot of tools
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> or the ultimate boot cd
[14:45] <evon> knightshade here's my output of both options in that post http://pastebin.com/spMpu1R2
[14:47] <knightshade> evon: so there is no partition table. you could try photorec to recover files
[14:48] <evon> knightshade photorec never keeps the filenames.  is there another program? is there no other solution?
[14:49] <gordonjcp> evon: testdisk?
[14:49] <knightshade> evon:  i don't know really. I only recovered files from ntfs partitions with photorec.
[14:49] <Tashtego> Where was that?
[14:49] <gordonjcp> evon: depending on how badly you have broken the filesystem, there may be no filenames left to recover
[14:49] <evon> gordonjcp, testdisk can't even find a partition to repair
[14:50] <gordonjcp> evon: photorec works by looking at the disk and guessing what might be in a file
[14:50] <knightshade> evon: There are some other tools like extundelete, but I never tried them.
[14:50] <Touhou11> Can't you just use backup? Or are they too out of date?
[14:50] <gordonjcp> evon: what's the partition type, and what did you do to it?
[14:51] <evon> NTFS. I was using it as a data drive.  Just stopped working one day.  all i've done is use ddrescue and analyze it with testdisk
[14:51] <evon> gordjcp NTFS. I was using it as a data drive.  Just stopped working one day.  all i've done is use ddrescue and analyze it with testdisk
[14:54] <evon> gordonjcp NTFS. I was using it as a data drive.  Just stopped working one day.  all i've done is use ddrescue and analyze it with testdisk
[14:55] <evon> gordonjcp rory knightshade, photorec just keeps saying error reading sector
[14:56] <gordonjcp> evon: oh, sounds like the drive has failed
[14:56] <gordonjcp> evon: in which case, the prognosis is not good
[14:57] <evon> gordonjcp does that mean the actual disks in the drive have failed or just the other components?
[14:59] <evon> gordonjcp photorec didn't get anything. can I restore my .img file to another HD?
[15:00] <esde> OpenVPN Server running on Ubuntu 12.04.3. pfSense running as the router on my home network running OpenVPN client. At home it is setup   [MODEM] -> [WAN] -> [OpenVPN] <-> [LAN]. I like to be able be able to visit 123.45.67.89:9865 where 123.45.67.89 is the VPN server IP and visit 192.168.1.1 where 192.168.1.1 is a local client on the pfSense LAN.
[15:01] <esde> For the record I can currently browse using OpenVPN from openvpn clients connected to the lan. But I am unable to forward ports for those local clients.
[15:01] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[15:01] <esde> Not sure if it's an openvz limitation or not
[15:04] <gordonjcp> evon: not if the disk you read it off is physically damaged
[15:20] <Barrytheboy> hi guys i'm a total novice and need child like instructions on how to get my epson all in one sx510w working over wireless network
[15:21] <Barrytheboy> i cannot find a way to scan over wifi I can print fine
[15:23] <battlestar> Barrytheboy, you're a step ahead of me then, and I'm not exactly a novice.
[15:24] <evon> gordonjcp alright I guess I'm gonna have to pay someone then
[15:24] <esde> wow it's slow today
[15:24] <Barrytheboy> battlestar if your talking about the printer lol don't ask me how I got it work it just works lol
[15:24] <Barrytheboy> it being able to scan that's a issue
[15:25] <battlestar> Seems to be an issue: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/simple-scan/+question/145877
[15:26] <esde> For the record I can currently browse using OpenVPN from openvpn clients connected to the lan. But I am unable to forward ports for those local clients.
[15:26] <esde> OpenVPN Server running on Ubuntu 12.04.3. pfSense running as the router on my home network running OpenVPN client. At home it is setup   [MODEM] -> [WAN] -> [OpenVPN] <-> [LAN]. I like to be able be able to visit 123.45.67.89:9865 where 123.45.67.89 is the VPN server IP and visit 192.168.1.1 where 192.168.1.1 is a local client on the pfSense LAN.
[15:26] <mustmodify> Using chroot, I have created a directory /var/username/inbox where a user can upload a file. This user can not ssh in. And now I want to set up an SSH key for them to use when connecting via SFTP. Can I do that as root? Or do I need to allow them to SSH, set it up, and then prevent them from SSHing again?
[15:27] <AdamSewell> Has anyone had any issues with adding a Brother printer in 13.10? I keep having my install hang and freeze for my Brother MFC-9130
[15:29] <battlestar> is there a kickstarter or something for a linux-compatible printer that actually works?
[15:30] <Wiz_KeeD> dude, it's the FOURTH time i am in firefox in ubuntu 12.04 writing some review on a product when everything just FREEZEZ, nothing happens
[15:30] <Wiz_KeeD> it goes STONE cold...i can't even debug the damn thing
[15:30] <Wiz_KeeD> I am so pissed...could optimus do this? or firefox?
[15:30] <Joe_B> battlestar, it's worth just sending printer manufacturers emails to complain and let them know that you're buying another brand because of lack of linux compatibility.
[15:31] <esde> Wiz_KeeD, you're pissed? I've been working on my issue since april ffs.
[15:31] <Wiz_KeeD> pfff
[15:31] <Wiz_KeeD> what's your issue?
[15:31] <esde> I'm avoided like the plague
[15:31] <esde> OpenVPN Server running on Ubuntu 12.04.3. pfSense running as the router on my home network running OpenVPN client. At home it is setup   [MODEM] -> [WAN] -> [OpenVPN] <-> [LAN]. I like to be able be able to visit 123.45.67.89:9865 where 123.45.67.89 is the VPN server IP and visit 192.168.1.1 where 192.168.1.1 is a local client on the pfSense LAN.
[15:31] <Wiz_KeeD> ahahah
[15:32] <esde> Had ports forwarded with AirVPN and StrongVPN, but with my own VPN on an OpenVZ container, no luck.
[15:33] <Wiz_KeeD> yeah that's a bit chinese for me
[15:33] <Wiz_KeeD> mine is on the lines of "I CAN'T FRIGGIN' BROWSE!!"
[15:34] <esde> install noscript
[15:34] <Wiz_KeeD> what's that?
[15:34] <esde> visit the site and enable only the required js
[15:34] <esde> some js might be loading and fucking things up
[15:34] <battlestar> Wiz_KeeD, have you considered trying chromium (or google chrome)?
[15:35] <esde> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/noscript/
[15:35] <Wiz_KeeD> battlestar, i always use chromium since i love the interface but it's going to s**t because i cannot view a lot of youtube videos and other problems
[15:35] <esde> whats the site?
[15:35] <Wiz_KeeD> I have no idea if it's even from firefox
[15:35] <Wiz_KeeD> oktal.ro esde trying to write a commet/review lost 45 minutes rewriting the same shit all over
[15:35] <esde> By the way if anyeone has done what im trying to do and can help, that would be fantastic.
[15:35] <Wiz_KeeD> It froze with firefox automatically sends some data to Moziall so tht we can improvie your experience
[15:36] <esde> well
[15:36] <Wiz_KeeD> Dunno if that triggered it or...
[15:36] <esde> you should be copying your content while your typing it
[15:36] <esde> duh
[15:36] <esde> thats silly not to if you know you might have an issue with it
[15:36] <_ingsoc> Any opinions on Golang? I see Canonical has an interest in it.
[15:38] <esde> http://www.oktal.ro/hota/univision-unique+hd1alw-o85761.html
[15:38] <esde> i just posted a junk comment np
[15:44] <jhutchins> Wiz_KeeD: Why not try a different browser?
[15:46] <wad> What file would I edit to launch a program every time I log in with the GUI?
[15:47] <jhutchins> wad: Usually the DE will restart anything that was running when you shout down.
[15:47] <wad> jhutchins, yeah, okay. But I'd still like to have certain things launched automatically.
[15:47] <Touhou11> wad: You can do that with the GUI, using Startup Applications
[15:48] <Touhou11> wad: It lets you add/remove software which starts automatically
[15:48] <knightshade> wad: http://askubuntu.com/questions/48321/how-do-i-start-applications-automatically-on-login
[15:48] <wad> See, I set this up on my old laptop, but I don't remember the file I edited.
[15:48] <wad> I'd live to move those settings over to my new one.
[15:48] <wad> I have a backup of the old one....
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> wad: if you symlink the .desktop file from /usr/share/applications to ~/.config/autostart it will start that application
[15:49] <jhutchins> wad: possibly .xinitrc
[15:49] <wad> ok
[15:49] <wad> Ah, that looks promising....
[15:51] <mustmodify> How can I figure out which directory sshd will use when looking for acceptable keys?
[15:51] <mustmodify> I think I have it configured correctly but since I'm chrooting I'm not sure whether it is seeing /var/uploads/%u as the new home
[15:53] <pluto> азазазазазазаз
[15:53] <jhutchins> mustmodify: iirc it's explicitly documented in the comments of the config file.
[15:56] <mustmodify> jhutchins: Well it says %u/.ssh/acceptable_keys... presumably %u is the user's home directory. I guess I need to verify which directory is the user's home.
[15:57] <msafi> When someone tells me to see "ascii(7)", how can I do that in terminal, what's the command?
[15:57] <Pici> msafi: man 7 ascii
[15:57] <Rory> msafi: man 7 ascii
[15:57] <msafi> Thanks!
[15:58] <cx> HI~~
[15:58] <Rory> Hello cx
[15:58] <TauNeutrino> hey guys, is there a program with which I can plot linear equations like 2*x+4*y+5*z=10 ?And which is not octave
[15:59] <Rory> TauNeutrino: Honestly if it were me I'd just use the website Wolfram Alpha
[15:59] <Rory> TauNeutrino: https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2*x%2B4*y%2B5*z%3D10
[15:59] <TauNeutrino> yes but the plots are not always good :(
[16:00] <mustmodify> I attempt to sftp via publickey. I see "Offering RSA public key: " from the client. On the server, I'm tailing /var/log/auth.log but see nothing interesting about why the key was rejected. Is there someplace I can get a more detailed log? I don't see anything in /var/log.
[16:01] <jhutchins> mustmodify: There's /home/<user>/.ssh/authorized_keys, and there's a system wide directory as well.
[16:01] <jhutchins> mustmodify: Assuming a default home directory.
[16:01] <knightshade> ms893015: read 'man man' as well :-)
[16:02] <Rory> !info qtiplot | TauNeutrino
[16:03] <TauNeutrino> I know the program, but I can only plot equations/functions like z=2*x+3*y I want them to be in the "normal" form like 3=2*x+3*y , I don't want to solve them every time
[16:04] <Rory> That's a surprising ommision from such an aspiring piece of software!
[16:05] <Wiz_KeeD> GREAT...it froze again
[16:05] <Wiz_KeeD> in chromium this time...
[16:05] <Wiz_KeeD> it's hopeless...
[16:08] <TauNeutrino> hm^^
[16:08] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: You really aren't having much luck are you? I swear you've been here every day for months
[16:09] <Wiz_KeeD> Rory, yup, that's what I said, the unluckiest bastard around
[16:09] <Wiz_KeeD> Crashes, not working, not functioning properly, mishaps, anomalies
[16:09] <Wiz_KeeD> it just won't...stop
[16:09] <knightshade> TauNeutrino: you could try python with matplotlib or gnuplot
[16:09] <TauNeutrino> hhm
[16:10] <knightshade> TauNeutrino: what? ^^
[16:10]  * datandroiddude Is Confused
[16:10] <k1l_> why not gnuplot?
[16:10] <mnemon> Wiz_KeeD: checked your ram?
[16:10] <datandroiddude> Hi, I was wondering if Ubuntu was a powerful OS in terms of Hacking, Penetration and what not..
[16:11] <mnemon> datandroiddude: powerful how?
[16:11] <Wiz_KeeD> mnemon, in what way?
[16:11] <TauNeutrino> gnuplot and similar software only works when one learned all the notation stuff and inner workings and what not, I don't want to study every detail of it :( it should be simple
[16:11] <mnemon> Wiz_KeeD: memory testers etc. if you got broken ram chip it might cause a lot of unexplained crashes and the like
[16:11] <k1l_> datandroiddude: yes it is. but you need to learn and work on that part. its not a "press one button and become a hacker" OS
[16:12] <Wiz_KeeD> mnemon, that's a good lead! where do i start?
[16:12] <mnemon> Wiz_KeeD: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MemoryTest
[16:13] <msafi> Is there an alternative man viewer to the terminal, where I can easily search things and follow hyperlinks?
[16:14] <Rory> msafi: there are loads online
[16:14] <Rory> !info gman | or this msafi
[16:14] <Touhou11> msafi: The GNOME help viewer can browse man pages and follow links, it works very well
[16:14] <Pici> msafi: the man command just invokes your $PAGER, which is `less` by default.  Use / to search, n and N to go to next/previous matches.  Your terminal emulator would need to parse the links though.
[16:17] <impradeepy> !ops
[16:18] <Pici> impradeepy: yes?
[16:18] <Myrtti> impradeepy: where's the fire?
[16:18] <impradeepy> how to stop discussions that are not related to ubuntu?
[16:18] <wad> Where can I find what scripts are called when I user logs in?
[16:18] <wad> I know some of them: .profile .bashrc
[16:19] <wad> But these are ones that run when a shell is launched, I think.
[16:19] <wad> How about when a user logs in?
[16:19] <Pici> impradeepy: Thats not a reason to call for !ops.
[16:19] <impradeepy> pici:how to stop discussions that are not related to ubuntu?
[16:19] <mustmodify> jhutchins: thanks for your comment. It got me where I needed to be.
[16:19] <wad> I mean, when a user logs in via the GUI?
[16:19] <Pici> impradeepy: But, you can tell them that they are not on-topic, or perhaps use !offtopic
[16:20] <impradeepy> pici:ok got it
[16:20] <DJones> impradeepy: For cases like that, you just ask people politely to move a discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, or another channel if its appropriate
[16:20] <Touhou11> !ot | impradeepy
[16:21]  * xtah slap
[16:21] <xtah> :me just testing
[16:21]  * xtah just testing
[16:22] <wad> So, a while back I got my old laptop set up so that when I logged into Ubuntu, it would run gedit with some documents already loaded.
[16:22] <k1l_> xtah: we got #test for that cases :)
[16:22] <wad> Now I'm trying to set up my new laptop to do the same.
[16:23] <wad> Any ideas? I've got the old laptop here, but looking through the startup scripts I can't find where I set this up.
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> wad: in 'startup applications', simply add the document name
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> wad: in 'startup applications', simply add the document name <-- path
[16:24] <wad> Okay, I'll look at that.
[16:24] <wad> thanks
[16:28] <babinlonston> Hi Any one have Idea about Settingupa PXE boot server in Ubuntu 12.04
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> babinlonston: plenty tutorials, here's one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[16:30] <babinlonston> MonkeyDust: not helped so what asking here
[16:31] <Rory> babinlonston: Did you get errors? What have you tried?
[16:36] <mgorbach> How come sometimes I see logging from upstart on TTY7, and sometimes it's completely empty?
[16:36] <mgorbach> Seems to work about 30% of the time on each reboot of this server machine.
[16:36] <usr13> mgorbach: X should be on TTY7
[16:37] <mgorbach> usr13: No X here. Ubuntu Server / console boot.
[16:37] <usr13> mgorbach: oh ok.  Then that is probably normal.
[16:45] <TheKK> Have you guys used Bamboo pad on ubuntu? I want to buy one but not sure if it is compatible with ubuntu
[16:47] <mgorbach> What's for me is that the upstart messages show up ... some of the time.
[16:47] <duckxx> Ìû
[16:47] <mgorbach> Maybe 10% or 30% or something. Drives me nuts.
[16:47] <usr13> mgorbach: May not be normal. May be a malfunction of the kernel log deamon
[16:47] <mgorbach> The rest of the time, just an empty blank console.
[16:48] <mgorbach> usr13: Yeah, perhaps. Does upstart have a nondeterministic ordering in how is starts up its stuff?
[16:48] <usr13> mgorbach: But I've seen that before.... didn't seem to be any sort of serious problem, can't find it now but...
[16:48] <mgorbach> I'm wondering if one ordering leads to upstart output on TTY7 and the other doesn't.
[16:49] <mgorbach> Yep, doesn't seem to be affecting much of anything else. Just bugging me a bit.
[16:49] <usr13> mgorbach: good question...
[16:49] <usr13> I dono
[16:51] <Rory> TheKK: I've used one with ubuntu in the past
[16:51] <usr13> "agetty opens a tty port, prompts for a login name and invokes the /bin/login command. It is normally invoked by init(8)."
[16:52] <ubuntu> where do i copy libflashplayer.so to install flash player in mozilla
[16:52] <ubuntu__> hawa
[16:53] <hawa> where do i copy libflashplayer.so to install flash player in firefox
[16:53] <hawa> ???
[16:54] <usr13> ubuntulog: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[16:54] <impradeepy> ubuntu:sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer,try this
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> hawa: you can put it in ~/.mozilla/plugins if you want
[16:54] <usr13> hawa: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[16:54] <g105b> I've got Microsoft Office installed in Wine, working perfectly, I was wondering how to associate .doc and .odt files with Word?
[16:54] <endika> hello
[16:55] <usr13> g105b: I think that is a function of the file manager
[16:55] <TheKK> Rory:so did it works fine?
[16:55] <Rory> TheKK: Yes, no issues
[16:55] <Rory> TheKK: And support is probably even better now than it was in 2008
[16:55] <usr13> g105b: And so you right click on one and you should see an open-with option, I think.
[16:56] <g105b> usr13: I do see that option, but my wine applications aren't shown in the list
[16:57] <usr13> g105b: Oh yea.  Hummm not sure about that.
[16:57] <usr13> g105b: I use open-office or libreoffice so I've not tried to do that yet.
[16:57] <usr13> g105b: Are you using unity?
[16:58] <d0x> Hi, i've lost my ssh connection due 'borken pipe'. Is there a way to get it back?
[16:58] <d0x> it is still open
[16:58] <d0x> (and i missed to use screen)
[16:58] <g105b> usr13: yea
[16:59] <d0x> I see some "ubuntu@pts/0" running
[16:59] <msafi> In textboxes I can ctrl+backspace to delete entire words. Why doesn't this work in Terminal?
[16:59] <gansbrest>  /join #aws
[17:00] <TheKK> Rory: thanks, I'll give it a try recently
[17:00] <Guest74307> ciao
[17:00] <Guest74307> !list
[17:00] <knightshade> msafi: you can use ctrl+w
[17:00] <knightshade> msafi: you can use ctrl+w
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> msafi: rephrase: "how do I..."?
[17:01] <Rory> msafi: alt-backspace in Bash
[17:01] <msafi> knightshade, well, I want to use the same shortcut every where
[17:01] <Alliance> asdfg
[17:02] <msafi> Why is it ctrl+backspace every where except in Bash?
[17:02] <usr13> g105b: Maybe it is an option in Ubuntu Tweak
[17:02] <usr13> g105b: http://askubuntu.com/questions/289337/how-can-i-change-file-association-globally
[17:02] <Tomylobo> hi
[17:02] <Tomylobo> i pastebinned something from ubuntu with pastebinit
[17:02] <Rory> msafi: Ctrl is a modifier used for other things in the terminal http://superuser.com/questions/296572/using-ctrl-or-alt-and-backspace-to-delete-last-word-in-bash
[17:02] <Tomylobo> now i can't access the "raw" view without using openid. why is that?
[17:02] <Tomylobo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6521633/
[17:02] <usr13> g105b: (Or maybe it is possible to do it there in Ubuntu Tweak.)
[17:03] <Rory> Tomylobo: Cannot view this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6521633/plain/
[17:03] <Tomylobo> Rory not without openid
[17:03] <Tomylobo> and thus no with wget
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> msafi: what does CTRL+Backspace do?
[17:03] <msafi> ActionParsnip, delete the last word
[17:03] <Tomylobo> msafi hit esc, then hit backspace
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> msafi: nice
[17:05] <VLanX> are there any other procedure to rename files in nautilus?
[17:05] <VLanX> like the delayed double click in window$ ?
[17:06] <Tomylobo> tried F2?
[17:06] <Tomylobo> (which also works on windows :P)
[17:06] <usr13> VLanX: You can't right-click and show options to do shuch things there?
[17:07] <VLanX> usr13: yeah but i wonder if there's any other way to do it
[17:07] <Tomylobo> usr13 you can, but you dont want to
[17:07] <Tomylobo> not if you do it all day
[17:07] <VLanX> like, i'm not using sed for 10 files
[17:07] <VLanX> but still it's annoying
[17:07] <usr13> VLanX: Tomylobo How about from the terminal with mv or rename?
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> VLanX: F2 is a classic way imh. Lots easier
[17:07] <Tomylobo> try F2, VLanX
[17:08] <Tomylobo> usr13 go away -_-
[17:08] <VLanX> F2 is exactly what i needed
[17:08] <VLanX> thank you guys
[17:08] <usr13> VLanX: Tomylobo Using the terminal for me is the handiest way.
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> VLanX: works in Windows too
[17:08] <VLanX> didnt know that :P
[17:08] <CounterStriker>  .88888888:.
[17:08] <CounterStriker> * -                 88888888.88888.
[17:08] <CounterStriker> * -               .8888888888888888.
[17:08] <CounterStriker> * -               888888888888888888
[17:08] <CounterStriker> * -               88' _`88'_  `88888
[17:08] <FloodBot1> CounterStriker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:08] <usr13> VLanX: Tomylobo From the terminal, I can globally change parts of lots of file names if I want.
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> VLanX: many don't as Windows users refuse to unglue their hand from the mouse
[17:09] <Tomylobo> sure, you do that. i'll rename my 3 files in dolphin and am done way before you
[17:09] <usr13> VLanX: Tomylobo And I understand there are addons for file managers that do some of the same things.  You might look into an addon for your filemanager.
[17:09] <CounterStriker> How do I run HalfLine 2 on Ubuntu?
[17:09] <Tomylobo> i dont see why? i'm perfectly comfortable using a terminal where appropriate
[17:10] <OerHeks> CounterStriker, does it have a linux client?
[17:10] <Tomylobo> renaming 3 files - not appropriate
[17:10] <CounterStriker> OerHeks, thank you, what do you mean "linux lient"?
[17:10] <CounterStriker> client*
[17:10] <OerHeks> CounterStriker, ubuntu=linux
[17:10] <CounterStriker> Yeah
[17:10] <CounterStriker> I have one
[17:11] <impradeepy> counterstriker: you can use wine and playonlinux
[17:11] <usr13> Tomylobo: I doubt that you can rename multiple files faster in the GUI...
[17:11] <CounterStriker> Yeah, but it does work
[17:11] <usr13> GUI file manager I should say.
[17:11] <CounterStriker> hold on
[17:11] <Tomylobo> usr13 and i doubt your doubts
[17:12] <dayfun> @Tomylobo, I doubt you for doubting usr13
[17:12] <Tomylobo> CounterStriker why did you post some silly ascii art earlier?
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> CounterStriker: Doesnt Steam allow you to play HalfLife2 these days?
[17:12] <usr13> Tomylobo: Ok, well it can remain debatable between you and me.
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> steam came to my mind too
[17:12] <gordonjcp> 17:12 < CounterStriker> How do I run HalfLine 2 on Ubuntu?
[17:12] <impradeepy> counterstriker: as a friendly advice i will suggest you use steam
[17:12] <gordonjcp> CounterStriker: install Steam for Linux, install Half-Life
[17:12] <CounterStriker> No, actually I would know withe there all the game written for linux
[17:12] <CounterStriker> instead of wine stuff
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> CounterStriker: yes, install steam
[17:13] <CounterStriker> steam?
[17:13] <usr13> VLanX: Tomylobo But again, you may look for addons for file managers that do some of the same things.  You might look into add-ons for your filemanager.
[17:13] <CounterStriker> But
[17:13] <gordonjcp> CounterStriker: if you have a copy of it on Windows you can *apparently* copy the assets across
[17:13] <Tomylobo> CounterStriker google steam linux
[17:13] <CounterStriker> Counter Strike 1.6 No Steam
[17:13] <Tomylobo> CounterStriker go away
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> CounterStriker: i'd ask in #winehq
[17:13] <Tomylobo> "no steam" means cracked
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> Tomylobo: I smelled that too
[17:14] <CounterStriker> Ok, Iḿ go to #winehq
[17:14] <CounterStriker> But
[17:14] <CounterStriker> Just have a version for linux,, with Steam so?
[17:14] <CounterStriker> is it?
[17:15] <CounterStriker> actually I dont to run on wine
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> CounterStriker: to get teh native counterstrike you need steam which means you cannot use a pirated version
[17:15] <Tomylobo> CounterStriker there is a native half-life 2 running on native steam. go get that.
[17:16] <CounterStriker> thereś a native COunterStrike 1.6 too?€
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> i guess people don't know when something's pirated anymore, these days
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> CounterStriker: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CounterStrike
[17:16] <CounterStriker> cool!
[17:17] <Tomylobo> and dont pirate software. it's not cool, especially not in the case of valve, who are among the few companies to actually support linux gaming
[17:17] <CounterStriker> Iḿ gonna chek that ActionParnsnip
[17:17] <dtcrshr> sure thing MonkeyDust I work at an university, we have 4 courses, one of them is law school... a few days ago a law student from the 3rd period wanted the admin password for on pc to activate his office
[17:17] <dtcrshr> I tought quite akward, since we use libre
[17:17] <dtcrshr> he didnt have  a clue he was stealing
[17:17] <dtcrshr> too traditional
[17:18] <Joe_B> If anyone wants to send an angry message at beamdog games, I paid them for baldur's gate enhanced more than a year ago, and now after reneging on their promise to support linux they say it's too late to give me a refund.
[17:18] <Tomylobo> dtcrshr i'm guessing he dropped out since :P
[17:18] <Joe_B> I guess the lesson is don't pay for a game to help support development of a product you believe in.
[17:18] <CounterStriker> Baldurś Gate are very cool
[17:19] <CounterStriker> I can play Heroes of Might and Magic 3 at my linux box
[17:19] <Tomylobo> Joe_B but there's an actual linux port of steam out there
[17:19] <Joe_B> Sorry, should have been more clear, independent but related issue.
[17:19] <Rory> For more questions and stuff, #ubuntu-steam exists
[17:21] <dtcrshr> Tomylobo: well, I just send an angry email to his teacher... waiting for the aftermath
[17:22] <Tomylobo> :)
[17:43] <A1Recon> Once I install from a program from a .tgz file, how do I update
[17:43] <A1Recon> ?
[17:43] <A1Recon> Can I use the "sudo apt"?
[17:44] <msafi> Guys, does Skype work on Ubuntu? I'm reading in Software Center that it mostly doesn't work...
[17:44] <jhutchins> A1Recon: No.  That's one of the reasons you shouldn't do that.
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> msafi: install it from the skype website, works without flaw here (12.04)
[17:44] <jhutchins> A1Recon: Whether the program can be updated is entirely up to the person who built the tgz.
[17:45] <A1Recon> jhutchins: But the Ubuntu Software Center does not have the latest version....
[17:46] <x_root> is possible to know if the system is not mounting a unit, even knowing that it is there?
[17:46] <x_root> like a memorycard or thumbdrive unit?
[17:46] <impradeepy> A1Recon:what package?
[17:46] <Walex> x_root: yes.
[17:47] <x_root> how?
[17:47] <msafi> MonkeyDust, I'm trying. It's giving me a hard time. I double click on the deb file, it opens Software Center. The progress bar shows that it's installing, but then the progress bar goes away and there's the "Install" button again...
[17:48] <A1Recon> impradeepy: Arduino 1.0.5
[17:48] <x_root> Walex, how can i know?
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> msafi: yeah, try installing it with gdebi
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> msafi: or with dpkg -i in a terminal
[17:49] <Walex> x_root: same way as everything else: system logs in '/var/log/'
[17:50] <impradeepy> A1recon: yet its not available in offcial repository
[17:50] <msafi> MonkeyDust, yeah, with dpkg installation went well...
[17:50] <J55> hello, how to open up terminal on login and initiate ssh connections to servers automatically?
[17:51] <A1Recon> impradeepy: Is there a way to make them get it into the official repository?
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> A1Recon: only a limited group of persons can decide what fits in the official repo
[17:53] <impradeepy> A1Recon:No, but manualy u can install it by adding ppas or by enabling universe repository but i will suggest you to not do this but choice is yours
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> A1Recon: that's one of the things that keeps Ubuntu free from malware
[17:54] <chaotix> hello...  i need to know what the command would be to open a game, wwf no mercy, with project 64, with wine...  i need to know the command for this so i can create an advanced launcher for xbmc to open wwf no mercy
[17:54] <impradeepy> monkeydust:agreed :)
[17:54] <A1Recon> MonkeyDust: Oh! OK
[17:54] <Tomylobo> MonkeyDust and libertarians
[17:57] <Pici> A1Recon, impradeepy: The Universe repository is maintained by Ubuntu developers. It shouldn't really be compared to PPAs.
[18:00] <impradeepy> Pici: thanks, i will keep that in mind
[18:00] <A1Recon> The Arduino IDE 1.0.5 was released in May 2013. Its December 2013 now! They should get it on the repository.
[18:03] <impradeepy> A1Recon: try to find  usefull missing plugins  for the project instead of updating the software
[18:03] <A1Recon> OK
[18:03] <jack> sudo apt-get update
[18:03] <jack> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:03] <jack> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[18:03] <jack> ??
[18:04] <jack> what could be locking it?
[18:04] <impradeepy> jack: error in source.list
[18:04] <zykotick9> jack: do you have another package manager open/running?
[18:05] <jack> no apt/dpkg/muon process active
[18:06] <impradeepy> jack:reboot, then sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:06] <zykotick9> jack: did you manually cancel/kill a running update?
[18:07] <zykotick9> jack: while most of impradeepy's suggestion is nonsense, a reboot wouldn't be a bad idea.  if it's still locked, see "/msg ubottu aptlock" for details
[18:08] <limace255> hi all, I've some issues concerning auto-install for ubuntu-server/kickstart, anyone knows something about it ?
[18:08] <OerHeks> not an error, just a lock > http://askubuntu.com/questions/346143/e-could-not-get-lock-var-lib-dpkg-lock-open-11-resource-temporarily-unavai
[18:09] <usr13> limace255: Ask and see.
[18:10] <limace255> ok, thx
[18:10] <limace255> I've made an iso file, based on ubuntu-server 12.04, with ks.cfg file, and modified txt.cfg
[18:10] <limace255> works well on VM
[18:10] <limace255> but on PC, I boot on /boot/ directory
[18:11] <limace255> I'm prompt by grub.cfg, not txt.cfg
[18:11] <limace255> (tested with some text on them)
[18:11] <limace255> see on some threads : can depend with what I ùake my iso usb stick
[18:12] <impradeepy> zykotick9:thank u, but i am not here to do arguments,some times 3rd party apps keeps on running
[18:12] <limace255> additional info : the PC have already ubuntu OS on it
[18:12] <usr13> limace255: Don't use Enter key for puncuation.
[18:12] <esde> OpenVPN Server running on Ubuntu 12.04.3. pfSense running as the router on my home network running OpenVPN client. At home it is setup   [MODEM] -> [WAN] -> [OpenVPN] <-> [LAN]. I like to be able be able to visit 123.45.67.89:9865 where 123.45.67.89 is the VPN server IP and visit 192.168.1.1 where 192.168.1.1 is a local client on the pfSense LAN.
[18:13] <limace255> usr13: what do you mean ?
[18:13] <limace255> omg
[18:13] <zykotick9> impradeepy: i'm not arguing with you, just giving better suggestions...
[18:13] <limace255> usin unetbootin on my 13.10 : fails
[18:13] <limace255> but using windows unetbootin : passed
[18:13] <limace255> well, fails at cdrom check
[18:13] <limace255> ...
[18:13] <limace255> step 1 : cleared :]
[18:14] <usr13> limace255: If the channel is busy, (which it is very busy at times), your input will become so fragmented that it will be way to hard for anyone to follow/understand.
[18:14] <esde> Had ports forwarded with AirVPN and StrongVPN, but with my own VPN on an OpenVZ container, no luck.
[18:14] <impradeepy> zykotick9:i told to do reboot, then proper way to do time to time updates, i know during update he closed the terminal
[18:15] <limace255> ok, thx for info; so, I change my question : installing auto-install ubuntu 12.04 server with kickstart, I'm asked for cdrom, but I'm with a usb stick, how can I get rid of that ?
[18:16] <zykotick9> impradeepy: i'm sorry, i agreed with your reboot.  other then that, your suggestion does not help... see "/msg ubuntu aptlock" yourself, for how to correct this issue.  stick to what you know...
[18:17] <esde> Is there some iptables rule i need to run on the remote server to tell it to open all ports for openvpn clients???
[18:17] <zykotick9> !behelpful > impradeepy
[18:17] <esde> Maybe like this???? https://airvpn.org/topic/2849-dd-wrt-router-and-port-forwarding/#entry4695
[18:18] <usr13> limace255: It's wanting to find appliactions to download so if you did have the install CD, I suppose it would use it.  Right?
[18:18] <syeekick> is this a safe repo? deb http://repo.offensive-security.com/dist/bt4 binary/ will this pull down some mucky stufff if add this?
[18:18] <usr13> limace255: But would be nice to be able to point to online repositories instead. Right?
[18:19] <impradeepy> zykotick9:got it, thanku
[18:19] <zykotick9> syeekick: don't mix binary packages/repos from other distros!
[18:19] <limace255> usr13: I want to perform the setup by usb stick, not cd; as some osther sites will use that iso too, I've put ks.cfg file on the iso
[18:19] <usr13> limace255: So I suppose the question would be; Where in the configurations would the option be?
[18:20] <limace255> yes; my /isolinux/txt.cfg file mention ks=cdrom:/isolinux/ks.cfg
[18:20] <usr13> limace255: I don't use the kickstart application so I'm not sure
[18:20] <usr13> limace255: Well, there you go.  Maybe you just change that line.
[18:21] <usr13> limace255: So where is /isolinux/ks.cfg really?
[18:21] <limace255> Well, I'v tried to read preseed documentation, certainly better, but I won't have the time to read and perform good stuff...my line : ok with changing, but I don't know by what
[18:22] <syeekick> zykotick9, thanks pal :)
[18:22] <zykotick9> syeekick: glad to help
[18:22] <limace255> usr13: ks.cfg file is on the /isolinux/ks.cfg, on usb stick
[18:23] <usr13> limace255: Seeing http://info.vortexbox.org/tiki-index.php?page=usbinstall
[18:23] <usr13> limace255: and  http://www.dminnich.com/files/usb_kickstart.txt
[18:23] <nvrpunk> is expect in 13.10 compiled with threading enabled?
[18:23] <nvrpunk> does anyone know offhand
[18:24] <maujhsn> SASL: added ubuntu: [PLAIN] maujhsn *
[18:24] <usr13> limace255: On  http://www.dminnich.com/files/usb_kickstart.txt  I see:  "pdate the syslinux.cfg.  Change the ks=cdrom to ks=file. Like this..."
[18:25] <limace255> usr13: thx, I'm checking that.Have seen some thread too about changing isolinux by syslinux
[18:25] <limace255> fine !! really thank you, I'm gonna check this now
[18:26] <zykotick9> syeekick: oh, actually you weren't the person i thought.  <ot> if your looking for security related stuff, i'd strongly suggest creating a kali livedvd, and using that instead. </ot>
[18:26] <usr13> limace255: It says to change the line, Sync the drive.  Pull it and try it.
[18:26] <maujhsn> exit
[18:26] <syeekick> yeah but i watned the tools on my ubuntu 13.10 system, i have not option to dual boot any more, live cds suck in my opinion
[18:27] <syeekick> but yeah kali is lovely
[18:27] <client> hello
[18:27] <zykotick9> syeekick: may i pm you for a moment?
[18:27] <syeekick> sure
[18:28] <BobJonkman1> Hi: I'm doing an 'apt-get install' and getting a large number of suggested and recommended packages. What is the difference between suggested and recommended?
[18:28] <koyetsu> have a wierd issue. at the physical console i'm able to ifconfig and it work but if i ssh into the box is tells me that it's not in my path and i have to use /sbin/ifconfig it the ssh and physical console configs different? i've never had this happen before
[18:28] <koyetsu> it=is
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> koyetsu: is /usr/sbin in your $PATH variable?
[18:29] <usr13> koyetsu: cat /etc/issue  #What does that say?
[18:29] <mob_titan> Does anybody know how I can loop through web pages and save them automatically? I am trying to save 150 pages without doing it manually
[18:30] <usr13> koyetsu: Are you sshing into an unexpected user?
[18:30] <zykotick9> BobJonkman1: recommends are typically installed by default (you usually want them).  suggests are a lighter suggestion.  do you want more detail?
[18:30] <koyetsu> usr13 that returns Ubuntu 12.04 LTS \n \i
[18:31] <koyetsu> ActionParsnip wouldn't it have to be if on the console with same user it works fine?
[18:31] <BobJonkman1> zykotick9: Thanx. And hi! I'm not sure that the recommends are getting installed...  Let me check
[18:31] <usr13> koyetsu: Ok.  Are you sshing into a user that may not have the same path as the one you expect?  Look and see.
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> koyetsu: each user can have it's own $PATH variable
[18:31] <zykotick9> BobJonkman1: did you do something with /etc/apt/apt.conf perhaps?
[18:31] <usr13> koyetsu: $PATH
[18:32] <mob_titan> anybody?
[18:33] <BobJonkman1> zykotick9: No, but I've imported several source.list files from a precise installation (and painstakingly hand-edited every "precise" to "saucy"), then imported the GPG keyring too.
[18:33] <koyetsu> ok i'm logged in with same use both at the console and with ssh on the console i have paths on ssh i donot but it's the same user that is what has me confused
[18:33] <usr13> koyetsu: If it is not the user you thought it was, su - other-user
[18:33] <anton_eh> anyone familiar with synaptic not loading using the GUI in 12.04?
[18:33] <usr13> koyetsu: who
[18:33] <koyetsu> nope the prompts are identical
[18:33] <BobJonkman1> mob_titan: Do a search for http-track, which will recursively download an entire web site
[18:33] <zykotick9> BobJonkman1: i wouldn't "expect" that to interfer with recommends?  sorry, i gots nothin'.  best of luck.
[18:33] <koyetsu> koyetsu
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> anton_eh: try running it with gksudo
[18:34] <ldlework> Does anyone know how to get the mute button to also unmute?
[18:34] <usr13> koyetsu: Does   who  show you an unexpected output?
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> mob_titan: wassup?
[18:34] <usr13> ldlework: alsamixer
[18:34] <koyetsu> who shows 2 ligins from koyetsu 1 from tty1 and the other from pts/0
[18:34] <BobJonkman1> zykotick9: Thanx! I'm not too worried, I can always install them manually.  Mostly I was curious about the difference between 'suggested' and 'recommended'
[18:35] <anton_eh> yeah ActionParsnip I can get it using gksudo though wondered if there was some sort of fix for the GUI?
[18:35] <koyetsu> err logins
[18:35] <koyetsu> can't fricken type today
[18:35] <usr13> koyetsu: Ok.  Well that is strange.
[18:35] <koyetsu> yeah that's why i was wondering if something was wrong with my ssh server
[18:35] <mob_titan> BobJonkman1 will it be able to recursively download dynamic web pages that aren't part of a website but are in fact just URLs that are JSON endpoints?
[18:35] <usr13> koyetsu: Try it anyway   su - koyetsu
[18:36] <zykotick9> BobJonkman1: basically, recommends are "typically desired" features (ie. important.  and are "assumed" to be installed), while suggests add features that aren't central to the operation of the package.
[18:36] <mob_titan> ActionParsnip Dying mate and u?
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> mob_titan: waiting for 7pm so I can blow this popsicle stand
[18:36] <usr13> koyetsu: Yea, the ssh server could possibly be the issue, not sure that I've seen something like that before, but...
[18:36] <BobJonkman1> mob_titan: It's been a while since I used http_track, but I don't think it cares about the filetype or content-type
[18:36] <koyetsu> usr13 ran that it asked for password i gave it it went back to prompt but hte issue is the same
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> anton_eh: why use synaptic when software centre is in a default install?
[18:37] <usr13> koyetsu: $PATH  | pastebinit
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> usr13: not:  echo $PATH   ?
[18:37] <koyetsu> from the ssh or the console?
[18:37] <anton_eh> old habits probably
[18:37] <usr13> ActionParsnip: either should work.  Right?
[18:38] <mob_titan> BobJonkman1 I've tried writing Python scripts, JS scripts and none of them work :'D
[18:38] <koyetsu> was wondering is i should try a CS101 windows fix and reboot the machine hehe
[18:38] <zykotick9> usr13: wow, i had no idea "$PATH" by itself would do that - neat, thanks.
[18:39] <usr13> ActionParsnip: & zykotick9 But as I see, echo $PATH  is cleaner.
[18:39] <BobJonkman1> zykotick9: Slightly OT: Sebastien was asking about Ubuntu Hours in your locality in #ubuntu-ca a few days ago.  Would you be interested? Come join us in #ubuntu-ca ...
[18:39] <anton_eh> Thanks ActionParsnip  I will take tht to my tutor and see what he responds with - all the best
[18:39] <tozen> ActionParsnip: isn't software-center more buggy? never using it aptitude only!
[18:40] <esde> OpenVPN Server running on Ubuntu 12.04.3. pfSense running as the router on my home network running OpenVPN client. At home it is setup   [MODEM] -> [WAN] -> [OpenVPN] <-> [LAN]. I like to be able be able to visit 123.45.67.89:9865 where 123.45.67.89 is the VPN server IP and visit 192.168.1.1 where 192.168.1.1 is a local client on the pfSense LAN.
[18:40] <esde> I had ports forwarded with AirVPN and StrongVPN, but with my own VPN on an OpenVZ container, no luck. Is there some iptables rule i need to run on the remote server to tell it to open all ports for openvpn clients???
[18:41] <koyetsu> http://pastebin.com/CCw5TsW8
[18:42] <BobJonkman1> mob_titan: Re-use the code, Luke.  If you're doing Web scraping, find some libraries that do the work for you. I'm not a Python programmer (yet), but there's a library called "Beautiful Soup" that does a good job of parsing HTML pages, even badly formatted ones.
[18:42] <koyetsu> they appear to be the same after th su - command you had me run but ifconfig works in one but not the other dunno if any other commands are like that or not that was the one i ran into. but i can run /sbin/ifconfig
[18:42] <koyetsu> just irritating
[18:44] <mob_titan> BobJonkman1: I've looked into Beautiful Soup, It makes too much of the type of web pages I am trying to scrape. They are already in JSON format (except they are fetched through a URL) so a simple "save as .json" is what I am trying to get. I found something here: http://www.httrack.com/html/scripting.html and stackoverflow is frustrating
[18:44] <BobJonkman1> mob_titan: You're right, httrack is what I meant. Like I said, it's been a while since I used it.
[18:45] <usr13> zykotick9: Look at /etc/ssh/sshd_config  and see if something there may be limiting a user's path.
[18:45] <usr13> zykotick9: (I don't know what it would be but....)
[18:45] <zykotick9> usr13: nick error...  not me with issue
[18:45] <usr13> koyetsu: (I don't know what it would be but....)
[18:45] <BobJonkman1> mob_titan:  I was scraping pages generated by a logging tool, then re-parsing them for statistics. But that was so 2006...
[18:46] <usr13> koyetsu: Look at /etc/ssh/sshd_config  and see if something there may be limiting a user's path.
[18:46] <koyetsu> ok
[18:47] <usr13> koyetsu: Just looking at:  http://serverfault.com/questions/450062/restrict-ssh-commands-for-a-group-of-users
[18:48] <usr13> koyetsu: Are you the sysadmin over this server, or is it someone else, (if you don't know what's doing it, must be someone else that has made a change).
[18:48] <koyetsu> oh it's mine
[18:49] <koyetsu> and nothing was changed i just installed the server fixed a networking issue then installed ssh-server and now this issue
[18:49] <usr13> koyetsu: Ok, well the above URL is just an example and may not at all pertain to your issue, but it *is* an example of what apparently can be done.
[18:50] <koyetsu> yeah i'm looking at the ssh_config and see absolutely nothing in it that would cause this issue
[18:50] <koyetsu> i'm just gonna cs101 it and see if it fixes itself
[18:51] <usr13> koyetsu: So the PATH *is* different for the local and the remote users.  Right?
[18:52] <usr13> koyetsu: (even though the users are the same?)  (And are there *other* users?)
[18:52] <koyetsu> only difference appears to be at the beging of the $path return the ssh version being su - and the other being -bash
[18:52] <koyetsu> haven't made any other users yet
[18:53] <usr13> koyetsu: Well, you can exit the super user session.
[18:53] <usr13> koyetsu: If that's what you mean.... You are still in a super user session?
[18:54] <koyetsu> after reboot and re-login to the ssh the path is changed: -bash: /usr/bin:/bin: No such file or directory
[18:54] <koyetsu> where do i find the path definition
[18:56] <koyetsu> nm i found it
[18:56] <usr13> koyetsu: pwd    #Look to see where you are in both cases.
[18:57] <koyetsu> same spot /home/koyetsu
[18:57] <koyetsu> same spot /home/koyetsuls -al
[18:57] <koyetsu> pfft
[18:58] <usr13> koyetsu: Do you have .profile ?
[18:58] <koyetsu> yeah
[18:59] <usr13> koyetsu: If you have .profile, I konw that you can add to your PATH there, not sure but I suppose you could also block it too.
[18:59] <BobJonkman1> FWIW, the 'apt-get install' did not automatically include either the recommended or suggested packages
[19:00] <zykotick9> BobJonkman1: that's "odd" are you sure there isn't something doing that in your /etc/apt/apt.conf?
[19:00] <zykotick9> BobJonkman1: suggests aren't typically installed by default, but recommends are...
[19:01] <mob_titan> thanks for the help BobJonkman1
[19:02] <BobJonkman1> zykotick9: Could very well be. But I was only curious; I'm not going to worry about it. I'll poke through apt.conf later
[19:02] <BobJonkman1> mob_titan: You're welcome. Hope you've got something to work with
[19:02] <usr13> koyetsu: Do you also have bash_profile?
[19:03] <koyetsu> nope
[19:03] <mob_titan> BobJonkman1 I am evaluating between another python script using a library or writing a script for HTTrack, I don't know why I'm bent on scraping, but I just feel like I need to complete this to learn something from it.
[19:04] <koyetsu> well i'm out of time for this right now i'll poke at it later thanks for trying usr13
[19:05] <usr13> koyetsu Yea, it is an interesting problem.
[19:05] <esde> OpenVPN Server running on Ubuntu 12.04.3. pfSense running as the router on my home network running OpenVPN client. At home it is setup   [MODEM] -> [WAN] -> [OpenVPN] <-> [LAN]. I like to be able be able to visit 123.45.67.89:9865 where 123.45.67.89 is the VPN server IP and visit 192.168.1.1 where 192.168.1.1 is a local client on the pfSense LAN.
[19:05] <esde> I had ports forwarded with AirVPN and StrongVPN, but with my own VPN on an OpenVZ container, no luck. Is there some iptables rule i need to run on the remote server to tell it to open all ports for openvpn clients???
[19:07] <compdoc> esde, not sure why you care about port 9865. cant you connect to the vpn?
[19:08] <d1n0> anyone familiar with maas?
[19:08] <esde> Clients are connected to the vpn. I need to be able to forward ports for the OpenVPN clients. So that if I have a service running on port 443 at 192.168.1.1, i can access it by the VPS IP on port 9865 for example
[19:10] <mob_titan> d1no define maas?
[19:11] <Pici> d1n0: The folks over in #ubuntu-server should be.
[19:11] <mob_titan> esde you need to evaluate the OpenVZ architecture.
[19:11] <esde> mob_titan, what? It's not my node, i'm just using a vps
[19:12] <mob_titan> That is why I am saying you need to look into how OpenVZ works esde. It has some limiting factors compared to another tool like kvm
[19:13] <esde> I don't know what to look /for/.
[19:13] <esde> Is there something I can ask the vps provider about?
[19:15] <fuga> hi, anybody to send the link for pastebin on this IRC.
[19:15] <zykotick9> !paste | fuga
[19:15] <mob_titan> esde "Is there some iptables rule i need to run on the remote server to tell it to open all ports for openvpn clients???" consider asking them about some of the limiting factors involved with running a VPN on OpenVZ.
[19:19] <bencc2> I'm trying to install libav from ppa: https://launchpad.net/~motumedia/+archive/libav-daily?field.series_filter=saucy
[19:20] <bencc2> It can't find the libav package
[19:20] <bencc2> what am I'm missing?
[19:26] <glitsj16> bencc2: libav isn't an actual package name, look at the page and click on the libav... link to open the built packages list to get those
[19:29] <fuga> hi i have some problem to receiving mail on my postfix/dovecot server...
[19:29] <fuga> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6547378/
[19:30] <LtRipley> hey
[19:30] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone, how can check if a particular module has been loaded, and can be used.
[19:30] <timhansen> good afternoon, all
[19:30] <minty> hello
[19:31] <ripthejacker> for eg. I want to know if ip_vs_wrr can be used.
[19:31] <ripthejacker> cat /boot/uname grep wrr returns CONFIG_IP_VS_WRR=m
[19:32] <ripthejacker> what does it mean?
[19:32] <ripthejacker> Is it loaded?
[19:34] <abdul> i need help
[19:35] <bencc2> glitsj16: ok so it's libav-tools. thanks
[19:35] <glitsj16> ripthejacker: check with lsmod | grep ip_vs_wrr
[19:36] <glitsj16> bencc2: you're welcome
[19:36] <ripthejacker> glitsj16: empty
[19:36] <glitsj16> ripthejacker: than the module isn't loaded
[19:37] <ripthejacker> glitsj16: so I just have to use modprobe ip_vs_wrr?
[19:37] <glitsj16> ripthejacker: sudo modprobe <module name> yes
[19:39] <timhansen> when setting up a cronjob (logged in as root) via crontab -e , do i need to specify the username (root) before the command?
[19:39] <glitsj16> ripthejacker: and check again with the former command to confirm that it loaded cleanly
[19:40] <ripthejacker> glitsj16: in /boot/config it's show as CONFIG_IP_VS_WRR, so the command will be sudo modprobe IP_VS_WRR or CONFIG_IP_VS_WRR?
[19:41] <glitsj16> ripthejacker: sudo modprobe ip_vs_wrr i'd say, the config...=m doesn't do the actual module loading but configures it i believe
[19:41] <Salve> Stupid question, what does the -c flag do?
[19:41] <glitsj16> Salve: on what command?
[19:41] <zykotick9> glitsj16: that's what i was about to ask ;)
[19:42] <ripthejacker> glitsj16: Ok thanks, I'll try it and let you know. :D
[19:42] <Salve> glitsj16: like this sudo su -c postgres -c psql
[19:42] <glitsj16> zykotick9: yup, one needs to be on ones toes here heh
[19:44] <Salve> glitsj16: I think it means command....but no idea
[19:44] <glitsj16> Salve: that executes a command yes
[19:44] <Salve> glitsj16: where can I find docs for that?
[19:44] <glitsj16> Salve: i had to check with 'man su' myself
[19:46] <coventry> How do I test my AV setup on google hangouts under ubuntu?  The instructions at https://support.google.com/chat/answer/162174?hl=en don't seem to pertain, as there is no "chat settings" in the drop-down menu.
[19:47] <Salve> glitsj16: Awesome. Thanks man
[19:49] <glitsj16> Salve: no problem, man pages are awesome indeed
[19:49] <Salve> glitsj16: agreed.
[19:50] <glitsj16> Salve: if you prefer reading them in a web browser, there's a nice little package called man2html (but that's just me)
[19:50] <fuga> no one to help me?
[19:51] <glitsj16> fuga: mail servers can be quite complex, have you tried asking in #ubuntu-server ?
[19:52] <TeraJL> i have  a small USB (500mb) drive, is there any way to install ubuntu server? online instalation or something?
[19:54] <bekks> TeraJL: 500M is just too small.
[19:54] <Pici> fuga: Are you sure that you can actually hit your own computer from the outside via those ports?  Some residential ISPs do not allow you to host things on port 80 or 25 and will block it.
[19:54] <_root_> i am trying to find out an alternative to openssh; it supposedly has faster respone and better keystrock capture; and resistance in poor connection. I think it is meh or mech or something but i cant find it
[19:55] <TeraJL> bencc2: i tought there could be something like netinstall on centos or something
[19:55] <Pici> _root_: You mean this: http://mosh.mit.edu/
[19:56] <fuga> yes i'm sure my port 25 and 143 are open
[19:56] <jhutchins> TeraJL: Yes, you can do a netinstall.
[19:56] <jhutchins> !netinstall
[19:56] <Zooklubba> So, using a user named git on my server. Sendmail pretty much times out and it says dead letter. But the email is still sent
[19:57] <jhutchins> Zooklubba: Only for that user?
[19:57] <Pici> _root_: And no, I've never used it, I just have a weird memory for these types of things.
[19:58] <Zooklubba> jhutchins: it works for root. Haven't tried a third one
[19:59] <Zooklubba> works now
[19:59] <Zooklubba> sorcery
[19:59] <Ontani> hey, i'm trying to mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt but i'm getting: you must specify the filesystem type
[19:59] <_root_> Pici: : could you give me more details
[19:59] <_root_> Pici: Nice touch; you are talented my friend
[19:59] <Ontani> when I do fdisk -l /dev/sdb i'm getting: /dev/sdb2   *           3          28       53248    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[20:00] <Ontani> so the partition exists and has a filesystem
[20:00] <Ontani> and i'm using sudo
[20:00] <mxc> http://askubuntu.com/questions/388419/juju-bootstrap-fails-in-azure-badrequest-the-affinity-group-name-is-empty-or
[20:00] <mxc> oops, sorry (mistaken copy/paste)
[20:01] <jhutchins> Ontani: That only means that the partition type is set in the partition table, not that a filesystem exists.  Try -t vfat
[20:02] <Ontani> aha
[20:02] <Ontani> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb2
[20:02] <minty> Hello all
[20:03] <minty> .
[20:04] <minty> Hi
[20:04] <minty> _
[20:04] <minty> :)
[20:04] <phdp_000> I was happily using my Dell XPS13 Dev laptop (Ubuntu 13.10), everything (including the wireless) was working fine and I just lost my wireless connection while working. Now it says "Hardware disabled" and even if I reboot I can't get any connection. I didn't install any update and the wireless was working fine until it just suddenly stopped working. Is the hardware broken?
[20:05] <jhutchins> Ontani: try -t msdos
[20:06] <bekks> Ontani: pastebin please: sudo blkid
[20:07] <jhutchins> Ontani: msdos probably won't work if vfat didn't.
[20:07] <jhutchins> phdp_000: Is there perhaps a physical switch somewhere on the laptop?
[20:08] <phdp_000> jhuntchins: very unlikely, I was typing on vim and surfing with firefox, everything was working fine. It just stopped working.
[20:09] <reggie_> Hey folks need help with adjusting Owncloud upload size can anyone help?
[20:09] <phdp_000> I'm quite puzzled, when I look for "Hardware disabled" on the internet I get all these poeple with problems getting their wireless to work but mine worked fine for months.
[20:09] <kostkon> phdp_000, rfkill unblock all ?
[20:10] <abdul> I cant install teamviewer
[20:10] <phdp_000> kostkon: I just tried and it did nothing.
[20:10] <jhutchins> phdp_000: There may be a "wifi" icon - radio tower with waves - to the right of the power switch.  This may be the switch.
[20:11] <ferr> sup anyone advanced in network management?
[20:11] <phdp_000> jhutchins: Yes there is but I can't switch it from "Off" to "On" even after setting the airplane mode to off (I'm using Ubuntu GNOME).
[20:12] <[Gentoo]> ferr: what is it
[20:12] <ferr> [Gentoo]: I've got 2 ip cameras, nvr and switch. When I connect cameras directly to the nvr, both works. If I use the switch, I only can see one
[20:13] <jhutchins> phdp_000: It's entirely possible that your hardware has failed.  Anything useful in dmesg?
[20:13] <[Gentoo]> ferr: ah i got no exp with the camera stuff sorry
[20:14] <jhutchins> ferr: Try #3networking
[20:14] <[Gentoo]> had to google nvr :)
[20:14] <jhutchins> ferr: Er, ##networking
[20:14] <ferr> jhutchins: thanks
[20:15] <jhutchins> ferr: Also whoever made the cameras/nvr.
[20:15] <ferr> I will try but I believe it's some kind of ip conflict which I don't get
[20:16] <[Gentoo]> a switch isnt a router
[20:16] <phdp_000> jhutchins: First time I try this command, frankly I wouldn't know if there was something useful there. It does detect my wireless card (Intel Centrino).
[20:16] <ticking> hey, is there a simple way to get .X
[20:16] <ferr> but when I plug in one into switch, another directly to nvr, then both cameras work as well lol
[20:16] <ticking> .Xmodmap files working again?^^
[20:17] <[Gentoo]> ferr: i have no idea how an nvr works
[20:17] <[Gentoo]> do you configure it like a router?
[20:17] <[Gentoo]> and choose ips to record from?
[20:18] <ferr> you can but basically it automatically connects the cameras
[20:18] <phdp_000> jhutchins: I'll try to boot on Ubuntu with a USB stick to see if it's a software problem.
[20:18] <arayaq> Hi. I have a problem detecting the external monitor on a screenless laptop. It worked OK when it had the built-in screen, but now that I removed it the external monitor wont work. I've tried to reinstall but again the monitor goes undetected.
[20:18] <phdp_000> jhutchins: Thanks for the help.
[20:18] <[Gentoo]> ferr: im guessing here, but maybe connect the nvr and 2 cameras to a router
[20:18] <arayaq> Any suggestion is well welcomed.
[20:18] <Guardian1> Im having an issue that MIGHT be related to php in unbutu.... how do i fix this?  http://stackoverflow.com/a/5709799
[20:21] <NewB27FSG> hello all...
[20:22] <NewB27FSG> However, the ESSID of the wifi i am connecting to is two words instead of 1
[20:22] <NewB27FSG> Each time i try to connect, it gives me an error
[20:24] <OerHeks> NewB27FSG, sounds like an apple airport?
[20:25] <arayaq> I opened an AU question some time ago, I still have the issues, if anybody can help would be greatly appreciated. http://askubuntu.com/questions/344903/install-on-a-laptop-with-external-monitor-only
[20:25] <ses1984> hi, i was looking for a hardware recommendation for a graphics card that supports triple head output, for programming not gaming. i'm hopefully looking for something affordable that doesn't consume a ton of power like a high end gaming card would
[20:26] <Pici> ses1984: ##hardware would be a better fit for such a question
[20:26] <OerHeks> NewB27FSG, see the first answer, 2 solutions > http://askubuntu.com/questions/50876/how-to-connect-to-a-wireless-network-that-has-a-two-word-name-with-a-space
[20:26] <ScottNYC> question, why is it that Ubuntu Servers guided LVM install creates a sperate ext3 /boot partition? Why isnt it part of /roots' logical volume or at least its own logical volume, why ext3?
[20:26] <ses1984> Pici: well a lot of people have recommended things that don't have linux drivers, or rely on X extensions that may or may not be compatible with future versions of ubuntu that don't use X
[20:27] <n008_> how do I check current time ubuntu
[20:27] <n008_> like `date`
[20:27] <ses1984> in other words, there's tons of hardware out there that's not necessarily ideal for use in ubuntu, which is why i'm here
[20:27] <[Gentoo]> n008_: that, date
[20:27] <[Gentoo]> man date
[20:28] <n008_> oh man tired
[20:28] <n008_> thanks Gentoo
[20:28] <[Gentoo]> you answered your own question :)
[20:31] <MagicMost> hi
[20:32] <MagicMost> can sum one tell me how can the user list browes faster than my cell phone
[20:33] <badass> is there a way to extract a file from a tar file that exists in a subdirectory within the tarfile to a specific directory?
[20:34] <badass> ex: tar -xvf myfile.tar -C /go/here/file.php path/in/archive/file.php
[20:34] <badass> i dont want the directory structure from the tarfile being extracted into the target directory
[20:38] <valoraptor> hey guys, for some reason, i cant click with my touchpad on my laptop, even though i have added the tapbutton 1 1 to synaptics
[20:38] <valoraptor> how can i fix this?
[20:40] <trism> badass: first answer here maybe? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9249603/how-to-extract-a-single-file-from-tar-to-a-different-directory
[20:40] <trism> badass: although honestly looks just like yours, so maybe not
[20:40] <trism> badass: maybe drop the file.php in -C
[20:41] <badass> i have the syntax right, im just wanting the file to extract without its parent directories within the archive
[20:41] <badass> so if my archives structure is a/folder/in/archive/file.txt
[20:41] <badass> and i want to extract that file, it brings the entire directory structure with it, no matter what is specified in -C
[20:42] <badass> i just want file.txt
[20:42] <badass> not a/folder/in/archive/file.txt
[20:42] <trism> badass: oh how about --strip-components
[20:42] <badass> hmm
[20:46] <badass> well, not working on OSX, is the behavior any different in linux
[20:46] <Eisroman> hi guys!
[20:46] <trism> badass: it seems to work here: tar xzvf hello_0.1.tar.gz -C blah/ --strip-components 2 hell
[20:46] <badass> do you HAVE to specify the #?
[20:46] <trism> badass: o-0.1/debian/changelog
[20:47] <trism> badass: yeah seems to be the case
[20:47] <saliak> I've installed mysql through apt.  I need to add sphinx support for full text indexing, by recompiling mysql from source.  If i just download the latest source, recompile and install, how does that impact what happened with apt?
[20:47] <Eisroman> hi guys!
[20:48] <SpamDroner> Hallo everyone. It's my first time using an IRC channel :)
[20:49] <subz3r0> welcome :)
[20:49] <Eisroman> HI guys!
[20:49] <SpamDroner> thanx
[20:50] <usr13> saliak: I'd say you need to uninstall it first.
[20:50] <usr13> Eisroman: Yes. Hello?  DO you have a question?
[20:51] <saliak> usr13: so apt-get uninstall it?  so, that breaks other things, right? like, if i installed my lamp server through apt, then it'd remove all the mysql bits from php, etc. right?
[20:51] <saliak> usr13: this bit has always confused me.  what if i just installed a new version from source  what would apt-think?
[20:51] <usr13> saliak: Hummmm, don't know about that, but don't think so.
[20:52] <usr13> saliak: Uninstalling mysql would obviously cause stuff to quit working, but I don't think it will rip out what you've done with php
[20:53] <usr13> saliak: Don't take my word for it.  Soneone else say something, (I've never uninstalled and re-installed mysql).
[20:53] <badass> trism: thanks it works on OS X but you have to specify it before -xf
[20:54] <glitsj16> saliak: are you sure you need to recompile mysql? looks like there could be other options according to http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-sphinx-on-ubuntu-10.10
[20:54] <saliak> usr13: haha, ok.  yeah, i'm pretty nervous about the change.  i think in the past i've just installed over what apt had installed and it didn't break anything, but I'm not sure i ever went through a version update with that (so apt never touched that package again)
[20:55] <trism> badass: interesting, good to know
[20:56] <usr13> saliak: I would suppose that if you installed a new version from source, you would need to un-install the old version first.  But again, I'm not an authority, I've only used the one installed via the package management system and haven't uninstalled and re-installed mysql
[20:56] <saliak> glitsj16: yeah, I'm using RT http://www.bestpractical.com/docs/rt/4.2/full_text_indexing.html
[20:57] <usr13> saliak: You may very well be right in thinking you can just install another version leaving what you have alone. I don't know for sure. If you've done it before and it worked, I don't know why it wouldn'
[20:57] <usr13> t work again.
[20:57] <saliak> usr13: well, yeah, i'm not sure if i've done it before.  i have a vague memory, but again, that system didn't really matter..
[20:57] <usr13> (I'm hoping someone else will chime in...(
[20:58] <kevin__> If Ubuntu freezes is there a way to recover from it without having to reboot?
[20:58] <usr13> kevin__: No response from keyboard or mouse at all?
[20:59] <usr13> kevin__: Can you ping it from another PC on your LAN?  If so, try loggin in via ssh.
[20:59] <kevin__> some activity but then it halts
[20:59] <usr13> kevin__: What do you mean?  "some activity"?
[20:59] <kevin__> some mouse movement and then complete freeze
[21:00] <usr13> kevin__: If there is something that has maxed out your RAM, you could try stopping it.
[21:00] <usr13> kevin__: You could do some investigation or you could try restarting X
[21:00] <usr13> kevin__: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace should restart the GUI
[21:00] <kevin__> thanks
[21:01] <kevin__> and the REISUB i've heard of?
[21:01] <usr13> kevin__: .... and kill all the GUI apps, (which hopefully will stop what is crippling the system).
[21:01] <kevin__> ok
[21:02] <usr13> kevin__: Or you can try to go to a console and see what the problem is, ( Ctrl-Alt-F6 )
[21:02] <Mongo44> Ctrl-Alt-Backspace doesn't work for me.
[21:02] <usr13> Mongo44: What version of Ubuntu do you have?
[21:02] <Mongo44> 12.04
[21:03] <usr13> Mongo44: What DE do you use?
[21:03] <Mongo44> usr13: What is DE?
[21:03] <usr13> kevin__: Does Ctrl-Alt-Backspace work for you?   (Or did you try it?)
[21:03] <kevin__> I dont know I didnt try but will next time
[21:03] <usr13> Mongo44: DE=Desktop-Environment
[21:04] <usr13> kevin__: Did you go to Console mode?
[21:04] <Mongo44> Regular Ubuntu.
[21:04] <usr13> kevin__: Oh, it's not locked up right now?
[21:04] <kevin__> no I just held the power button.  THats why i'm here asking for alternatives
[21:05] <knowing42> hi i have a problem
[21:05] <knowing42> i want to add support of hi_IN locale in my system
[21:05] <knowing42> can anybody help me with that ?
[21:08] <Samet> hi
[21:08] <Samet> anyone here?
[21:09] <jack> hi Samet
[21:09] <Samet> hi
[21:09] <Samet> how are you? jack
[21:10] <jack> pretty fine actually
[21:10] <Samet> I'm quite lost in this IRC servers hahaha
[21:10] <Samet> which Ubuntu's version do you have?
[21:11] <jack> xubuntu saucy right now
[21:11] <Samet> good choice
[21:11] <jack> thx
[21:11] <kevin__> Differences between Xubuntu and Ubuntu?
[21:11] <jack> i like it, overall
[21:11] <Samet> it uses XFCE
[21:12] <jack> xubuntu is using xfce
[21:12] <Samet> no Unity
[21:12] <Mongo44> usr13: Know what combination would restart my computer?
[21:12] <kevin__> better or worse in your opinion?
[21:12] <jack> my browser is google-chrome
[21:13] <jack> so...it doesn't matter too much
[21:13] <Samet> xfce is good because requires few CPU
[21:14] <jack> media player is "parole"
[21:14] <jack> which is like a totem++
[21:14] <Mongo44> Ctrl-Alt-Del prompts me to log out.
[21:14] <Samet> I'm using Backtrack now haha
[21:15] <kevin__> bactrack?
[21:15] <Samet> yes, do you know it?
[21:15] <Mongo44> Would that work in an application that is frozen?
[21:15] <kevin__> no first time for me
[21:15] <kevin__> what is it?
[21:15] <Samet> it other distribution ubuntu-like
[21:16] <Samet> it is**
[21:16] <Samet> but
[21:16] <Samet> it is specialized in network security
[21:16] <ikonia> it's also dead
[21:16] <ikonia> so a.) offtopic in here b.) foolish to use
[21:16] <Samet> hahaha
[21:18] <Samet> it have a lot of tools for break WPAs and WEP
[21:18] <ikonia> so a.) offtopic in here b.) foolish to use
[21:18] <Samet> and some Reverse Engineering tools, like decompilers, development kits... etc.
[21:19] <zerowaitstate> Backtrack is now Kali
[21:19] <Samet> anyone here have developed any aplication using Sockets in C?
[21:19] <ikonia> Samet: try ##c
[21:19] <Samet> i don't know exactly, but kali is good too
[21:20] <Samet> ##C???
[21:20] <ikonia> Samet: sorry, the channel ##c
[21:20] <Samet> isn't C Sharp?
[21:20] <ikonia> Samet: it has c developers in it to discuss c questions/topics
[21:20] <ikonia> no ##c is the channel for "C programming language"
[21:20] <Samet> ahh ok, thanks ikonia
[21:21] <kevin__> Whats so good about Kali and Backtrack
[21:21] <Samet> that are distributions to try security vulnerabilities
[21:22] <Samet> both have a lot of tools to do it, including metasploit
[21:22] <ikonia> this isn't a topic for #ubuntu
[21:22] <ikonia> this channel is for ubuntu discussion only.
[21:23] <Samet> that's true
[21:23] <Samet> out with Backtrack haha
[21:23] <Samet> anyone uses Apache 2.0 in their Ubuntu distribution?
[21:23] <ikonia> yes why ?
[21:24] <Samet> i'm having problems with encryption
[21:24] <Samet> i want to use https
[21:24] <ikonia> so whats the problem ?
[21:25] <Samet> that don't works
[21:25] <ikonia> come on, if you know enough to setup apache + ssl - you know how to report a problem
[21:25] <ikonia> better than "it doesn't work"
[21:25] <Samet> hahaha
[21:25] <ikonia> I'm not laughing
[21:25] <Samet> my english is little
[21:26] <Samet> i'm quite slow with words haha
[21:26] <Samet> sorry
[21:26] <ikonia> no need to be sorry - you're english is fine
[21:26] <ikonia> and there is no rush
[21:26] <Samet> thank you
[21:26] <ikonia> I'd rather you took your time to explain the problem than rush just to say "it doesn't work"
[21:27] <Samet> that's true :)
[21:30] <lorenzo_> rambo
[21:31] <Samet> ok, i use Apache 2.0 only for programming in PHP5, HTML5, Javascript, etc..., but know that i've got my web up... i want to secure my clients, i've installed SSL but i don't know how to setup for Apache
[21:31] <Samet> now**
[21:32] <ikonia> Samet: ok, so it doesn't "not work" - you just don't know how to set it up
[21:33] <Samet> yes :D
[21:33] <ikonia> !apache | Samet
[21:34] <ikonia> Samet: ignore that
[21:34] <ikonia> Samet: that's a bad factoid
[21:34] <Samet> i just have Apache 2.0 preinstalled in ubuntu
[21:34] <ikonia> Samet: it doesn't come pre-installed, are you sure you're using ubuntu ?
[21:34] <Samet> yes
[21:35] <Samet> 13.04
[21:35] <Samet> LTS
[21:35] <knowing42> can anybody help me in setting up hi_IN locale in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[21:35] <Pici> Samet: 13.04 is not an LTS
[21:35] <Samet> really?
[21:35] <Samet> i'm confused now...
[21:35] <Vyse007> knowing42: Are you stuck somewhere?
[21:35] <knowing42> yes basically i want this locale to be set up
[21:35] <ikonia> Samet: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/httpd.html about %50 down the page, explains how to setup ssl
[21:36] <Samet> perfect, thank you ikonia
[21:36] <Pici> Samet: 12.04 is an LTS and they are released every 2 years. 14.04 will be the next LTS.  (Ubuntu version is YEAR.MONTH of release)
[21:36] <knowing42> so i used sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[21:37] <Samet> ok :)
[21:38] <Mongo44> What does LTS stand for?
[21:38] <notrev> Mongo44, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[21:39] <Samet> bye, see you soon
[21:39] <Vyse007> knowing42: Is the locale correctly installed on your system?
[21:41] <Khep> hello
[21:42] <theScaryDoor> hello
[21:43] <theScaryDoor> I'm working with /etc/fsab umask values!
[21:43] <theScaryDoor> so much fun
[21:43] <theScaryDoor> that and trying to get thunar to delete files for me.
[21:49] <zongo> Greetings to all
[21:49] <kostkon> zongo, hi
[21:50] <zongo> i have a bit of a dilemma
[21:50] <Vyse007> sup zongo?
[21:51] <zongo> was wondering if any guru could help me
[21:51] <Vyse007> Zongo: Go ahead and tell us what is the problem.
[21:51] <zongo> I am almost ready to migrate to Ubuntu
[21:51] <beandog> yay ubuntu
[21:51] <beandog> yay linux
[21:52] <beandog> yay
[21:52] <beandog> where are you migrating from? that's the question
[21:52] <zongo> i have been testing it for a while now but not everything is compatible with my laptop and linux
[21:52] <zongo> win 8.1
[21:52] <beandog> ok
[21:52] <beandog> hardware or software?
[21:52] <zongo> hardware
[21:52] <Vyse007> What hardware in particular?
[21:53] <zongo> I know from reading a lot of of docs that you can with time and tweating sometimes use generic drivers
[21:53] <zongo> ie: bluetooth stack
[21:53] <zongo> not compatible
[21:53] <zongo> plus, the small things like keyboard backlighting
[21:54] <Vyse007> so your laptop's bluetooth doesn't work in linux?
[21:54] <zongo> that is correct
[21:54] <k1l_> zongo: no one can answer that for general questions. for make and model we can take a look
[21:55] <Vyse007> zongo: you have to give us specifics. What works for us  may or may not work for you.
[21:55] <zongo> thanks, its an asus g750x
[21:56] <zongo> sorry i meant to write g750j
[21:57] <zongo> I have run hardware compatibiliy and the bluetooth is coming short
[21:57] <Hassen> VIVA UBUNTU
[21:57] <zongo> the wireless and ethernet card are good to go
[21:58] <zongo> One major issue is going to be graphic i think
[21:58] <zongo> if I am not mistaken
[21:58] <zongo> its a geforce 770
[21:59] <zongo> in the ubuntu stack there is a pilote for it but that does not seem to give a decent output (fps)
[21:59] <zongo> compare to what i can run on win 8.1
[22:00] <Vyse007> the graphics issue can usually be solved by open source drivers
[22:01] <zongo> yes that's what i was reading but for the geforce the drivers (open source) are decent enough but not as good as what i would get on win 8.1
[22:01] <Beldar> zongo, making your comments across multiple posts and some most of which are vague will not get you help, make this concise accurate and relevant, and in single posts.
[22:02] <zongo> so the question is would I have to do a lot of tweaking before i can get my machine to work on ubuntu ?
[22:03] <Pricey> zongo: Try a livecd?
[22:03] <Beldar> zongo, YOu have to install it and then come here for help.
[22:03] <zongo> i have tried the livecd
[22:04] <Beldar> zongo, we don't help on as if installs.
[22:04] <zongo> ok
[22:05] <iballeat> Hi. Looking for help. After last shutting down my comp with Ubuntu 12.04 (Mate) i cant to get to login screen. Just some background for a second and restarting. What i can do in this situation?
[22:05] <zongo> was just trying to get an insight of people that had install ubuntu on their laptop
[22:05] <Beldar> zongo, It is good you are researching, run it in a virtual to see what happens there.
[22:05] <Vyse007> zongo: Chances are that the hardware may work on a full install. On a live image, there isn't much you can do.
[22:06] <zongo> i have tried livecds and vms as well
[22:06] <Vyse007> iballeat: You get to the background and then it restarts? Or you see a bunch of text and then it restarts?
[22:06] <zongo> the feel is good
[22:06] <zongo> but scared once on the laptop some drivers are going to be missing and whatnot
[22:09] <iballeat> Vyse007, i dont see any texts. only brown background (like before login screen) for one second and comp restarting. Just before this background i saw some text (smth about NTFS), but it was only for milliseconds and i can't read it. And i don't know where i can see it.
[22:09] <Vyse007> iballeat: Do you remember any changes you made the last time the machine was working?
[22:10] <iballeat> Vyse007, i installed ubuntu from windows 7. (Maybe it helps)
[22:10] <LyGen> hi guys, im having a problem setting up my rtorrent+rutorrent box, rutorrent cant seem to find rtorrent running
[22:10] <iballeat> Vyse007, i do aptitude safe-upgrade two-three times a day
[22:10] <LyGen> can you help me?
[22:11] <Beldar> zongo, Your best bet is make sure your W8 is imaged/cloned have a recovery disc made in windos, resize it there and install and know how to remove ubuntu and reload any images if needed.
[22:11] <iballeat> Vyse007, i dont remember that i install something new
[22:11] <Vyse007> iballeat: So you have been using this Ubuntu system for long right? What was the last thing you did when it was working? Also, you have a win7 install on the same HD?
[22:13] <iballeat> Vyse007, last time i just surfing and dont install new programs. i have win7 on other hd, but my comp boots from hd with win7
[22:14] <kevin__> Is there a Kali or Backtrack IRC Channel?
[22:14] <Beldar> iballeat, You have a wubi install, there is hardly no support on this install type, so be aware of this.
[22:14] <Beldar> !alosi | kevin__
[22:14] <Beldar> !alis | kevin__
[22:15] <iballeat> Beldar, yeah, i use wubi install. i thought that it is fine program for installing (cause it is frequently appears in google search)
[22:15] <Vyse007> Beldar: He has a wubi install? I thought he said win7 was on the other hd...
[22:15] <Beldar> Vyse007, They installed from windows.
[22:16] <kevin__> thnx
[22:16] <Vyse007> iballeat: Not much can be done about the wubi install. Especially if can't provide some logs.
[22:16] <Beldar> iballeat, Basically the wubi install is a try out, for later moving to to installing to a partition.
[22:17] <Beldar> or to*
[22:17] <Vyse007> !cookie|Beldar
[22:17] <schultza> Does Ubuntu do anything with the wins server information from dhcp?
[22:19] <Vyse007> schultza: You mean pass on this info to something else?
[22:19] <Beldar> iballeat, There is a a user on the ubuntu forum who has focused on wubi, I would post this info there, with wubi in the thread title. They can probably get you up and running, than you might consider moving the wubi to a partition.
[22:19] <imeon> Bon un serveur actif!
[22:19] <Beldar> !fr | imeon
[22:20] <imeon> québécois
[22:20] <imeon> no problem i speak english too
[22:20] <schultza> I'm trying to get samba working on my network. Apparently we have a server that points to a wins server, and the samba server is setup for wins, but not sure if linux/ubuntu does anything with the wins server information from dhcp to any samba clients like that network browsing feature in the files manager.
[22:21] <Beldar> imeon, Cool, this is an english channel is all.
[22:22] <imeon> i'm green to chat on irc
[22:22] <imeon> do you have rules?
[22:23] <Beldar> iballeat, In the spirit of full information needed, here is the wubi migrate info if needed. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi
[22:23] <k1l_> !guidelines | imeon
[22:23] <imeon> thanks
[22:23] <Vyse007> schultza: I doubt that linux does anything with it.
[22:24] <imeon> i look and i came back in few minutes
[22:24] <schultza> Vyse007: thanks. So I will have to install samba on each client machine and set it up to point to thw wins server in the smb.conf.
[22:24] <iballeat> Beldar, Vyse007, thank you. i will try
[22:25] <Vyse007> iballeat: Good luck and feel free to post your experiences somewhere.
[22:25] <Vyse007> schultza: Yes thats what you gotta do. Its a pretty easy setup tho, not a big deal.
[22:25] <Sargun> What's the best way to get the inet6.defn changes for ifupdown so that I can set accept_ra to 2 (See this file: http://anonscm.debian.org/hg/collab-maint/ifupdown/file/7fa2a29bc281/inet6.defn
[22:25] <usr13> schultza: linux to linux you can use nfs if you want.
[22:26] <schultza> Vyse007: thanks.
[22:26] <schultza> usr13: So can windows. But requires major setups in windows side.
[22:26] <Vyse007> hey usr13 sup?
[22:26] <usr13> schultza: What?  (What does MS-Windows have to do with it?)
[22:27] <usr13> Vyse007: Hello...
[22:27] <usr13> schultza: (I don't think I understood your last statement.)
[22:28] <schultza> usr13: We have a few windows computer on the network (hybrid network).
[22:28] <usr13> schultza: And ..............?
[22:29] <schultza> I was just saying that I can do NFS. Was just stating it would take some effort on the windows side to get running with nfs.
[22:29] <usr13> schultza: But why would you do that?  Why would you *not* use samba?
[22:29] <Vyse007> schultza: Samba is definitely easier to set up.
[22:29] <bekks> schultza: If you call "install the NFS client on Windows 7 Professional and above" "some effort" - then you are right.
[22:30] <schultza> bekks: It is. I've been through it.
[22:30] <bekks> It isnt. Did it within an hour in an entire division. :)
[22:30] <tripelb> 12.04 Is there some way that I can get my wifi to ONLY try to connect to my wifi and not to the others? Android can do that.
[22:31] <schultza> usr13: Trouble with samba not talking. Even on the same workgroup. I think I will have to install the nmbd server on client machines on the linux side.
[22:31] <schultza> bekks: maybe im new to nfs on windows then. :)
[22:31] <usr13> schultza: Well, here is what I do;  If I have files on a linux machine that I want to share with MS-Windows and Linux clients, I share them whith samba for the MS-Windows clients and nfs for the Linux clients.  (I don't see any reason to not use both samba and nfs for the same share.)
[22:31] <schultza> bekks: We have no domain controller as it's a small business. <20 computers.
[22:32] <Vyse007> schultza: NFS is a better option for linux clients but samba is definitely easier for win-linux systems.
[22:32] <schultza> Thanks all. I will look to set that up.
[22:32] <usr13> schultza: Now that is just the way I would do it, I don't really know if it is good or bad, just seems to me to be easiest.
[22:33] <Vyse007> usr13: Its also the way I setup in my lab, so I know its easy and efficient.
[22:34] <usr13> Vyse007: Well yea.  Makes sense to me.
[22:34] <hassen> OLEEEEY
[22:34] <schultza> Vyse007: Is there a recommend way or any ideas for me to setting up NFS?
[22:34] <Vyse007> schultza: I thought you were gonna set up samba??
[22:34] <k1l_> hassen: would you mind keeping this channel clear for support? we have #ubuntu-offtopic for non support chatting
[22:34] <fedgalaxy> hello everyone, i have a specif question about "cupsd  pid=6984     tcp4:127.0.0.1:631" status : listening. why i cant forcibly kill the pid=6984 and why it is listening? how do i completely kill it?
[22:35] <schultza> We are currently running Samba.
[22:35] <schultza> The problem is when Linux tries browsing by name or even netbios info, is where I have issues. By IP is no problem.
[22:36] <tripelb> are my questions just too simple for you guys? I used to be able to get helphere but times have changed.
[22:37] <Vyse007> schultza: Personally I used this link (http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/server.html) in the past, its decent help.
[22:37] <fedgalaxy> I have a specif question about "cupsd  pid=6984     tcp4:127.0.0.1:631" status : listening. why i cant forcibly kill the pid=6984 and why it is listening? how do i completely kill it?
[22:37] <schultza> tripelb: I think there is a way. I just don't know how to do it at the moment.
[22:38] <schultza> tripelb: Have you set the preferred network to be "preferred to connect to?"
[22:38] <mex0101> what up, kennt wer ein gute opensource lösung für web back office ? zum managen meiner vertriebspartner und deren provisionen in form einer webapp ?
[22:38] <MonkeyDust> !de
[22:38] <Vyse007> !patience|fedgalaxy
[22:38] <schultza> fedgalaxy: Is there a program/script/setting to automatically start cups when it's not running?
[22:38] <tripelb> thanks schultza
[22:38] <usr13> schultza: For NFS on the server side, edit /etc/exports with line:  /path/to/share 192.168.1.0/24(rw)  And on the [linux] client, edit /etc/fstab with line:  /home/schultz/nfs-files nfs nolock,users,rw
[22:39] <fedgalaxy> sorry guys,  i didnt know that i must first wait. next time i will be patient. I am truly sorry
[22:39] <schultza> tripelb: Did you find it?
[22:39] <BobJonkman1> For those still following my question about apt-get recommends: I found in the file '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99update-notifier' the line 'APT::Install-Recommends "false";' which is why neither suggests nor recommends were installing for me.  Q: Is that file a normal thing to have?
[22:39] <tripelb> I didnt used to have a here and then not wifi so it never came up.
[22:39] <Vyse007> fedgalaxy: I am no expert on CUPS, but shouldnt cups conf file have some options on what to listen?
[22:39] <tripelb> schultza, where does one set that?
[22:39] <schultza> usr13: Ok. So setup NFS clients to use the share mounted. Ok.
[22:39] <schultza> tripelb: Hang on moment.
[22:39] <schultza> s/on/one
[22:40] <fedgalaxy> Vyse007 : 6984/cupsd , the only information that I have found on the internet was CUPSD is for printers.
[22:40] <usr13> schultza: And then restart nfs:  sudo service nfs-kernel-server restart
[22:41] <fedgalaxy> Vyse007 : plus i didnt find the conf file for cuspd under usr/sbin dir
[22:41] <usr13> schultza: You should edit to suit your needs, such as rw or ro as you see fit, and share with only part of the lan or just one IP or a couple IPs etc. etc.
[22:41] <schultza> tripelb: Under Edit Connections for the wireless network you want, there is a "General" tab with an option to "Automatically connect to this network when it is available." Make sure other networks do not have checked when in the vicinity of those other networks.
[22:41] <tripelb> schultza, I just deleted all the others. let's see if thta persists through a reboot. Last night my computer suggested I might want to reboot "if I have further problems" so it might come up.
[22:42] <tripelb> schultza, I do not have a General" Tab
[22:43] <tripelb> fyi
[22:43] <schultza> Left click the network icon in the top right. Click Edit Connections.
[22:44] <schultza> Select the network you want to edit, and click edit. There you should see a "General" Tab.
[22:44] <Vyse007> fedgalaxy: By default, cups will always listens on the loopback interface (127.0.0.1)
[22:44] <tripelb> schultza, I do not have a General" Tab -- but I will uncheck a certain button on each of the others if they show up again. I'd rather allow, than disallow.
[22:45] <tripelb> thanks
[22:45] <Vyse007> Are you sure you can't kill it? You can always remove it from the boot and see if that works.
[22:45] <schultza> tripelb: oh. what version do you have again?
[22:45] <fedgalaxy> Vyse007 : why i cant kill the process to end the listening, and why it is by default. To handle printers? i dont have one
[22:45] <schultza> tripelb: Sorry, I'm currently running 13.10.
[22:46] <schultza> tripelb: I will have to download the latest LTS to see what it looks like in LTS.
[22:46] <Vyse007> fedgalaxy: If you don't need printing, just disable it from startup. Thats it.
[22:47] <fedgalaxy> Vyse007 : hey man, i found the cupsd.conf file; it is said "# Only listen for connections from the local machine."
[22:47] <Vyse007> fedgalaxy: like i said, by default it will listen on the loopback interface
[22:47] <Vyse007> just remove it from startup if you dont need it
[22:47] <Vyse007> do you know how to do that?
[22:48] <fedgalaxy> Vyse007 : where can i find the startup (12.04 LTS)
[22:49] <Vyse007> fedgalaxy: are you familiar with the terminal?
[22:49] <fedgalaxy> Vyse007 : of course
[22:49] <Vyse007> then just use this command: sudo update-rc.d -f cups remove
[22:49] <Vyse007> Then reboot
[22:50] <fedgalaxy> Vyse007 : (i thought the startup had an interface)
[22:50] <fedgalaxy> Vyse007 : ok thanks, will do sir
[22:52] <Vyse007> fedgalaxy: It does have an interface, but I havent used a DE in a while, so I don't really remember it too well.
[22:53] <tripelb> schultza, what happens when it tries is I have ended up with a set of 30 items in the panel and I have to choose each and close them and OK a dialog box to get rid of them.
[22:53] <tripelb> fyi
[22:53] <fedgalaxy> Vyse007: yeah it does, i will look that up on the ubuntu forums
[22:54] <mr_thuy> hi
[22:54] <Vyse007> fedgalaxy: just follow the commands first and see if that solves your problems.
[22:54] <schultza> tripelb: Wireless is designed to connect to the best wireless network (signal strength). According to that method, it will bother you if there are other wireless networks that have better signal strength than the one you are connected to. Still booting to LTS, hang on.
[22:55] <fedgalaxy> Vyse007: I will of course
[22:56] <schultza> Ok. I'm having problems booting to Ubuntu LTS in a virtual machine. I've enabled 3d acceleration, already. It's not giving me the desktop. What was that kernel option to get the GUI working again?
[22:57] <bish0p_> is there anything I can apt-get to unpack .rar files?
[22:57] <anon12> How do I use mpc to connect to a server running mpd and create a playlist on the server?
[22:58] <schultza> ah, nomodeset.. ok.. continuing
[22:58] <greg`> i cant complete my update, software updater is saying i dont have required priviliges!
[22:58] <xangua> bish0p_: sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[22:58] <greg`> anyone else seen this?
[22:58] <greg`> or does anyone know how to run software updater from the command line
[22:58] <bish0p_> xangua, thank you
[22:59] <Helasraizam> Hey guys, I installed Ubuntu on my laptop and upgraded.  Now when I log in all I see is a black screen and a mouse cursor.
[23:00] <Beldar> !nomodeset | Helasraizam try this
[23:01] <Beldar> Helasraizam, You may need to reload graphic drivers, this is a low graphic boot to hopefully get you a desktop.
[23:03] <Helasraizam> Thanks Beldar, be back soon
[23:03] <Beldar> Helasraizam, Make sure as well that you specify this upgrade as in the distro or an upgrade to a distro, and any details relevant such as graphic Hardware, the release and desktop.
[23:05] <MindRip> Hi all, need help with corrupted files transferred from linux to windows partition ?
[23:05] <Helasraizam> Upgrade in distro, Ubuntu 13.10 (on gpt with UEFI), Lenovo Z710 with optimus and GeForce GT 745M
[23:05] <Beldar> !details | MindRip
[23:07] <roger_> hi
[23:10] <Beldar> Helasraizam, here is a google search, seems better to give you this as it has multiple hits, notice in general the askubuntu support sources. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=13.10+optimus&btnG=&gbv=1&sei=eU2mUvvYOsj8oATbtoLoDA
[23:13] <Beldar> MindRip, Can you give the channel a picture of your problem?
[23:14] <ookami_yiff> wer auf seine hündin steht, pm an mich ;)
[23:21] <mex01xo> someone knows a free or opensource Multi Level Network Marketing (MLM) system ? need something like this for my startup
[23:22] <MindRip> OS: elementaryOS (ubuntu 12.04) copy files using nautilus GUI, original files seem ok on linux, but frequently end up corrupted on windows
[23:23] <zykotick9> MindRip: elementaryos isn't supported in #ubuntu, perhaps try finding/asking in an elementaryos channel.  see "/msg ubottu alis" for a method of searching for channels.
[23:23] <k1l_> MindRip: please ask elementaryOS support since they use different filebrowsers etc
[23:24] <MindRip> ok sorry peeps, tried there with no joy, so i came here ill try again
[23:29] <anon12> How do I use mpc to connect to a server running mpd and create a playlist on the server?
[23:32] <g0nz0w> I have been trying to install the netflix-desktop, but even tho it appears to complete and gives me an icon, nothing starts. Any thots?
[23:34] <schultza> tripelb: is the "Connect automatically (above the tabs) check for that and only that wireless network of the ones "SAVED" in your edit connections area (for wireless)?
[23:34] <Beldar> g0nz0w, Have you installed via wine or adding a ppa?
[23:35] <schultza> tripelb: This screen will change in later versions of Ubuntu. 12.10 changed it, it hasnt changed since 12.10.
[23:35] <g0nz0w> Beldar: added ppa
[23:36] <Beldar> g0nz0w, Cool, I do not use netflix myself so I don't have any fix info, just confirming the install. Have you looked on askubuntu for any other having a problem?
[23:38] <Beldar> g0nz0w, The release your running and desktop is probably pertinent here as well.
[23:39] <Beldar> g0nz0w, Here is a askubuntu general search, not specific to your release. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=netflix
[23:44] <bish0p_> How do I open the graphical file system as root?
[23:44] <bish0p_> Like, drag and drop
[23:44] <buu> What is the graphical file system?
[23:44] <buu> And why are you root?
[23:45] <k1l_> bish0p_: the qeustion is: what do you want to do and is there a better solution for it?
[23:45] <bish0p_> I need root to copy some fonts into wine, but it won't let me copy anything to bin without root.
[23:45] <ddd> never run Xorg as root
[23:45] <bish0p_> And I have NO CLUE how command line copy and paste works
[23:46] <ddd> you don't copy and paste. you learn how 'cp' works. in your shell, type: man cp  or  help cp
[23:46] <k1l_> bish0p_: "cp" is the command for copy and copies files. "mv" moves the files to the target
[23:46] <ddd> read carefully
[23:46] <bish0p_> alright, thank you
[23:49] <bish0p_> sweet I did it! Thanks!
[23:51] <Helasraizam> Thanks Beldar, solid progress! http://askubuntu.com/questions/367499/black-screen-problem-after-removing-bumblebee
[23:51] <Helasraizam> I'll try it with bumblebee and go from there
[23:52] <Beldar> Helasraizam, Cool, hope you get it going. ;)
[23:54] <g0nz0w> Beldar: thanks for your help. I'm trying to find the fix, but Beldar this may be futile. Just trying to get a media setup for the kids, but Windows was so much easier
[23:55] <Beldar> g0nz0w, I understand.
[23:56] <g0nz0w> actually I'm running peppermint three but asking here because the peppermint room is empty and I thought that ubuntu would be the same
[23:57] <phong_> hi guys
[23:57] <waykool> just did cleqn instqll ubuntu studio v twelv O four dot four LTS: added french as second keyboard: in studio ten dot O four; i set left win key as szitch fro, english to french; in XFCE; ~where² is the Option to add that''' question ,ark:::
[23:58] <Beldar> g0nz0w, In general we don't support peppermint here only ubuntu, however you are here as of now, you can contact the person who owns the ppa as well maybe if you want to go that far.
[23:59] <Helasraizam> hahaha azerty!  I think the default key to switch keyboard languages is super+space (start menu button+space) or alt+shift--try those and see if the keyboard is normal again?
[23:59] <Helasraizam> The square in your upper menu bar that says "Fr" should help change it