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conner_bwHi, I just installed Xubuntu on my laptop. Is there a way to get right+click working for the battery icon in the top panel? Right now right click does nothing. Kind of inconsistent with the other icons up there.00:06
Haggardconner_bw: I'm using 12.04 on my laptop. Maybe you need to remove the notification item from the panel, restart, then re-add the notification.00:18
xubuntu180hi yall03:49
xubuntu180anyone there?03:49
shuvarekYes, but I am going to sleep03:52
xubuntu180wait can i ask you  a question03:53
xubuntu180or too late for that03:53
xubuntu180just my luck03:53
cfhowlettask03:53
shuvarekgo03:53
xubuntu180how do you resolve hibernation and suspension problems03:53
xubuntu180like shutting down when hibernating suspending03:53
xubuntu180is there another way to suspend and hibernate03:54
shuvarekI am not the expert03:54
shuvarekI just restart computer if I have any problem with suspend03:54
shuvarekand do not even try hibernate03:55
xubuntu180i am not picky ... i would like to hibernate OR suspend ... problem is, if I try either my computer shuts down03:55
xubuntu180it is annoying to boot up every single time ... it would be convenientto be able to put the ocmptuer to sleep or hibernate03:56
shuvarekno, for me it is too late to think about it, sorry, g-night03:57
dkeeFirst time install of UXbuntu.04:11
dkeeIs this the place for beginners?04:12
dkeeAm I just talking to myself?04:12
dkeeNobody else is on this line?04:13
dkeeWhat are all the names on the right side of the screen window?04:13
dkeeWell, then I will go back to my install. L8r.04:14
hemangpatelHi04:23
puffHi, previously with ubuntu I could logout/switch users, allowing somebody else to use my machine without requiring me to shut down all programs and exit. I'm running xubuntu now and I don't see that option.04:52
cfhowlettpuff, not available via default configuration04:53
puffDrat.  Thanks.04:54
cfhowlettpuff, I think it's installable, but I don't know how.04:54
samineruHi there, I believe during the guided installation of xubuntu, during the partition screen it will say that it has recognized an existing installlation and offers the ability to replace it. When doing this, it did not replace the existing installation as I expected, but wiped the whole disk including other partitions. Am I misremembering the prompt?07:16
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bracameHi !  I'm a new xubuntu's user.08:06
well_laid_lawn!hi08:07
ubottuHi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!08:07
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xubuntu063hello10:04
xubuntu063can someone tell me where can i get tango for xubuntu linux10:06
xubuntu063 can someone tell me where can i get tango for xubuntu linux10:06
well_laid_lawnthe icon sr=et tango ?10:07
well_laid_lawnthe icon set tango ?10:07
alphardHello all! Please forgive my being a n00b and all - I'm brand new to Linux (though very savvy with Windows), and am running into a weird issue when running (live USB, DVD, and after installing) Xubuntu on my HP Pavilion DV2700 laptop. The issue is this: there are weird lines (repeated horizontal lines of an opaque white to 100% transparency) on the screen, over everything else (all GUI). They do not appear when Xubuntu is loading and11:25
alphardnor during POST, nor while using Windows 7 Ultimate at any time (I have it set to dual-boot). Do I have to jerry-rig the nVidia driver to work with Xubuntu, or is there something else going on?11:25
ziemowit_ why my fresh installed xubuntu 13.10 doesn't show my eth0 card? when i installed previous versions of ubuntu it was always visible, and liveCD also saw this net card...13:40
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anomalyvideo card quit working.  so, I replaced it.  now x refuses to load properly.  how would I go about reconfiguring it to use the new card?14:13
EDinNYRunning saucy, and my display DIMS on the laptop when I plug IN my power cord...that is backwards14:20
Orioais anyone around that could help me16:36
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puffOrioa: Maybe, what's your question?16:58
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Orioanm i figured it out17:05
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mculpwhen I first logged into a fresh install of xubuntu I got an upgrade window -- how can I get back to that window?18:01
mculpupgrade window for 13.10 that is18:01
knomemculp, run update-manager18:01
mculpknome: hmm..this looks like package upgrades, there was a window for the 13.10 upgrade that I'm looking for18:03
knomemculp, try 'update-manager -c'18:03
mculpsame thing18:05
knomemculp, hmm... have you enabled update notices for normal releases in settings manager -> software & updates -> tab 'updates'18:06
ziemowithi, i have a problem with my 12.04LTS, i tried to install broadcom wlan drivers (from settings->additional drivers), and it crashed. now i don't have working broadcom wlan card, and i can't run any package manager... i always get the message that dpkg was interrupted, and to run dpkg --configure -a...18:34
knomedid you run it?18:34
ziemowitBut when i run this, there is segmentation fault during this18:34
ziemowiti'll paste output now it freeze on this: http://pastebin.com/2XPB0YrN18:39
ziemowitand my tty1 is spammed by communicates like this one: http://pastebin.com/KTEsJEAe18:39
xubuntu035hey all18:50
xubuntu035i'm installin xubuntu atm18:51
xubuntu035and got glib assertion failed error18:51
xubuntu035that's prob for opening firefix, isn't it?18:51
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gustavdreisoi19:43
gustavdreishuehueuhe brbr19:43
gustavdreisalguém ai?19:43
TheSheep!pt | gustavdreis19:44
ubottugustavdreis: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.19:44
xubuntu546Hi every one20:25
xubuntu546Does anyone knows if the media file preview is supported on Xubuntu 12.04?20:26
xubuntu546in ubuntu 10.4 I put the curson over a song and it start playing20:26
xubuntu546but I have not see that setting on xubuntu 12.0420:27
xubuntu424Hello20:46
Unit193Howdy.20:46
xubuntu424i don't print with Canon 600020:49
Khephello21:40
Unit193Wow.21:44
xubuntu594Hi guys, I wonder if anyone would be able to help me with a 'read-only filesystem' error? I get this a couple minutes after every boot, every time I run fsck it fixes a bunch of errors but they reappear again upon starting xubuntu 12.04 LTS. memtest86+ and gnome-disk-utility gave me green flags for the RAM and HDD.. so I basically just want to know where I should start troubleshooting next21:52
holsteinxubuntu594: i would run a test on the hard drive.. a long test, just to be sure21:55
holsteinhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/105793/why-has-my-file-system-turned-read-only-after-updates has some suggestions for "read only" issues21:56
xubuntu594holstein: thank you, what tool would you use to test the hard drive? smartmontools or similar?21:57
holsteinxubuntu594: i use gsmartcontrol from a live CD21:58
Unit193Is hdt any good?  What HD brand?21:58
shadehello22:02
xubuntu594holstein: right, I'll do that so. I did run gnome-disk-utilities' extended SMART self-test (took about 40 mins) and it was fine, though.22:02
shadei would like to know if xubuntu have localized installer and after instalation i would be able to use my country language22:02
holsteinxubuntu594: sure.. and it could be any number of things happend that cuase your installation to be corrupted, or the filesystem to be corrupted or damaged22:03
shadei seen some moded verson of xubuntu and dunno if it would me any difrance to use those in place of orginal one22:03
holsteinxubuntu594: an interrupted upgrade, a force poweroff.. who know.. anyway, it could be that everything is "fixed" now, the filesystem for example.. and the drive is fine, but the installation is bad for some reason22:04
holsteinxubuntu594: i know for me, i have backups, so reinstallation is always an option22:04
holsteinshade: the "modern" version os xubuntu is the recent supported version.. 13.1022:04
holstein!13.1022:04
ubottuUbuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.10 - Read the release notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseNotes22:04
shadeholstein: and hows with localization?22:04
holsteinshade: the issue is, the quesiton will be, how is it with your *specific* location22:05
shadei need to make grandpa type instalation, user friendly, localized and usable for someone who does not see difrance in windows and linux22:05
shadeholstein: polish22:05
holsteinshade: AFAIK, there is support for many locale's and languages22:05
holsteinshade: you should be able to select that at installation22:06
shadecool22:06
Unit193shade: In the installer, I see language selections on the first screen.  There was a guy that tried to get all the PL strings translated, I think that one is good but don't know for sure since I only know English.22:06
shadeUnit193: yea, there is somekind of project with translation, i think you are talking about this http://czytelnia.ubuntu.pl/index.php/2012/10/31/xubuntu-mysi-remix-12-10pl/22:08
Unit193Nope.22:08
shadehmm22:08
shadeUnit193: looks like there is no mod for 13.10 atm22:12
holsteinshade: this is the *normal* instaler22:14
holsteinshade: no "mod" necessary22:14
holsteinshade: you download normal xubuntu, and select your language.. it'll load your language and try to communicate with you in that language as best it can, based on the translations that have been volunteered22:14
xubuntu594holstein: yeah, thanks, I'm all backed up as well, hoping to avoid the reinstallation but it's looking increasingly likely!22:18
holsteinxubuntu594: usually takes me about 8 minutes..22:19
Ethan[]hi. I just upgraded to 13.10. the upgrade crashed partway through, and now xfce doesn't finish starting up. I can log in, but then am stuck on a screen with the desktop background image, the mouse, and nothing else.22:20
Ethan[]I can also ssh in22:20
holsteinEthan[]: i would want to make the upgrade complete..22:21
xubuntu594holstein: do you think you'd go straight for that option in this situation?22:21
holsteinxubuntu594: if the hardware reports as not failing, and fsck didnt fix anything and there are no other clear error messages to share and troubleshoot, i know that 8 minutes from now, im staring at a clean install that works22:22
Ethan[]so, after the upgrade crashed, it woludn't boot with the message "filesystem check or mount failed". I followed the directions here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/361332/ubuntu-13-04-to-13-10-filesystem-check-or-mount-failed22:22
Ethan[]namely, dpkg --configure -a22:22
Ethan[]and that got me to where I am now22:22
holsteinEthan[]: thats a scenario where i would test the hard drive as well22:22
holsteinEthan[]: if the filesystem and/or hard drive wont mount, then you dont need to try messing with a package manager22:23
Ethan[]holstein: well, that fixed the message "filesystem check or mount failed". but now the issue is that xfce won't finish logging in22:24
Ethan[]the filesystems are all mounted fine now22:24
holsteinEthan[]: if you can ssh into a shell, or use the recovery kernel, you dont need xfce22:24
holsteinEthan[]: skip troubleshooting getting xfce to load, and go right to making the upgrade complete22:25
holsteinEthan[]: its generally bad to disrupt an upgrade.. its a process that, in my experience, at best takes 5 hours or so22:26
holsteinEthan[]: a fresh install will take, as i was saying above, about 8 minutes.. at some point, you might want to just backup your data, and fresh install the next version, 13.1022:26
xubuntu594holstein: thanks man22:31
Ethan[]okay, I've found some stuff that may help to finish the upgrade. I'd tried 'do-release-upgrade' but that just says "No new release found". currently trying some things with apt22:31
Ethan[]thanks22:32
holsteinEthan[]: i would want to look at my sources, and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"22:32
Ethan[]dist-upgrade also just told me there was no upgrade available, if I recall corretly. I'm currently upgrading packages, then will check dist-upgrade22:35
holsteinEthan[]: i would look at the sources.. see that they are 13.10 sources.. then get "sudo apt-get update" to complete with no errors.. then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"..22:47
Ethan[]sources are saucy, and I think that apt-get update did run successfully previously22:50
Ethan[]yeah, it did, found that22:50
holsteinEthan[]: run it and confirm22:51
Ethan[]yeah, I did. I still have package upgrades running, then will check update again and dist-upgrade.22:52
holsteinEthan[]: dist upgrade is the next command to use22:53
holsteinEthan[]: its not "upgrade my distro".. its allowing packages to upgrade across different sources, basically22:53
Ethan[]okay, cool22:54
Ethan[]so, dist-upgrade mostly ran okay but linux-headers-3.11.0-14 had this error: unable to install new version of `./usr/src/linux-headers-3.11.0-14/arch/sh/drivers': No space left on device23:20
Ethan[]which seems odd, as I have plenty of free space23:20
bosnjakhi all. how do i define global environment variables? Do i use ~/.profile, or ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile? What is the right way?23:25
shuvarekI accidentally turn off computer23:34
bosnjakshuvarek: ok23:34
shuvarekafter restart the xfce session does not start23:34
bosnjakshuvarek: what happens, there is a black screen, or?23:35
shuvarekhow to reinstall xfce?23:35
bosnjakshuvarek: do you have any GUI?23:35
shuvarekJust session does not start, and the 'time' cursor is still even in the console23:35
shuvareknow I installed lxde because learn ircii is too much for me23:36
shuvarekso I purge xfce4-session23:36
shuvarekand install it again but it does not helped23:36
bosnjakshuvarek: reinstall xubuntu-desktop?23:37
holsteinshuvarek: you should try removing the session files in your user's /home23:37
shuvarekfunny thing, but there vere no .session23:37
holsteinshuvarek: i try with other user accounts.. there is a guest session23:38
shuvareksorry I do not understan, what do you mean, the .session file should be in /home/user or in /home?23:40
holsteinshuvarek: i look it up each time, or just poke around till i find them.. but i think its ~/.cache/sessions ?23:43
shuvarekohh yes thnks23:43
Sysithen there's .Xauthority and .ICEauthority that might be corrupted23:43
shuvarekwhat about delete all the .cache from console (after logout)?23:44
shuvarekis it a good idea?23:44
holsteinshuvarek: i just test, and get rid of whatever necessary.. i tend to just move, and not delete23:44
holsteinshuvarek: no need to ever delete til you are sure.. then you can recover23:45
shuvarekokay then i will try to move, thanks for your help23:47
shuvarekBTW I try to connect to #xubuntu from ircii as shubu2 but probably with no efect23:48
shuvarekso see u latter after relogging23:49
Ethan[]any idea why dpkg and apt might be reporting 'No space left on device' for anything I try, when I have 8.6 GB free?23:49
bosnjakhow do i define global environment variables? Do i use ~/.profile, or ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile? What is the right way?23:51
shadedam, instaled xubuntu 13.10 and after reboot i get only xfce mouse scren and spining window :(23:51
shuvarekhello23:52
shuvarekstill this same problem23:52
Sysibosnjak: if your "global" means "for all users", not anything in your home folder23:52
shuvarekwhen I start session with 'xubuntu' there is the small mause blinking and the screen went black for a while and after white forever - that's all what I see23:53
shuvarekI can killl X from console, but I cannot start the xfce session23:53
shuvarekhow to reinstall xfce completely?23:54
shuvarekwhich packages I should delete / purge?23:55
GridCube!purexfce23:56
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce »23:56
GridCubeshuvarek, ^23:56
shuvarekmy system is xubuntu 13.1023:57
shuvarekuname -a <name> 3.11.0-14-generic #21-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 12 17:04:55 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux23:57
GridCube?23:57
GridCubeoh, the latest tutuoria is for 13.0423:58
knomethe maintainer didn't have time to do that anymore, but made them cc-licensed; not sure if anybody picked up on that23:59
GridCubehttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/tag/pure-xubuntu/23:59
shuvarekI think it would be easier for me to install xubuntu on other partition than delete all other packages, eventuall I can still use other de23:59

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