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ScottKRiddell: Looks like you're the one that changed it ....00:02
Riddellhah, force of habit00:07
mikhas:-)00:08
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newhi?04:04
lordievaderGood morning.08:34
lordievaderHey ahoneybun, still awake?08:34
Blizzzis somebody packaging kdevelop 4.6 for 13.10?09:33
yofelBlizzz: shadeslayer09:42
Blizzzawesome :)09:44
soeegood morning10:22
apacheloggerbug 1259465 missing dep?10:37
ubottubug 1259465 in plasma-nm (Ubuntu) "kde-nm-connection-editor is completely useless for setting up TLS connections" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125946510:37
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* Riddell mumbles that phonon's debconf setup is spooky voodoo11:56
soee;o11:59
Riddelldid anyone try kfilebox ?12:02
RiddellScottK: do we have a policy for programmes that need to download other programmes to do anything?12:03
soeewasnt kfilebox dead ?12:04
Riddellsoee: it's not been developed in a while but we've had requests for it and the code-in student did a package12:07
Riddellsoee: do you use dropbox, are you able to assess it?12:07
Riddellit may be that being in a PPA is good enough12:07
soeeRiddell, i have an account i think but im using copy.com12:13
soeethey have QT client for it :)12:13
apacheloggerRiddell: are you sure that kate licensing stuff is a problem?12:15
apacheloggersounds to me like dem things are plugins12:15
Riddellapachelogger: nah I took it back, it's not a problem cos its LGPL 2 only which can also be GPL 312:16
RiddellI love that sneaky clause in LGPL 2 which says it can be GPL 2 or later12:16
Riddellapachelogger: just cos its a plugin still means it is a derived work12:16
apacheloggerthat depends on the interfaces TBH12:18
Riddellvalorie: re your blog, is there still a need for kaffeine?12:25
apacheloggerRiddell: kdelibs patch needs changes ... mustn't do heap access inside the crash handler12:27
apacheloggertime to code the libc code ^^12:28
BluesKajHiyas all12:36
apacheloggerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6550888/ I write the fanciest of all crappy c code xD12:44
RiddellC is even more scary than c++12:48
apachelogger:(12:48
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Riddellapachelogger: phonon4qt5 gstreamer backend installs .desktop file to /usr/share/kde4/services/phononbackends/gstreamer.desktop13:07
Riddellthat doesn't seem right13:07
apacheloggerBUG13:08
apacheloggeractually I thought I had disabled that13:08
apacheloggerRiddell: you need to pass -DPHONON_BUILD_PHONON4QT5=ON also for the backends13:09
apacheloggerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6551017/13:09
Riddelloh right you are13:09
Riddellvery good13:10
apacheloggerI have a feeling that I am right now working around my crappy code structure from 4 years ago :O13:36
apacheloggeractually, I think this may need code review13:40
Riddellapachelogger: any comments on this? http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/phonon-backend-vlc-0.7.1.debdiff13:49
apachelogger+Recommends: vlc13:50
apacheloggerwhy?13:50
apachelogger+Provides: phonon-backend13:50
apacheloggerI think that virtual needs to change13:50
Riddellmm yes13:50
apacheloggeror just drop the virtual stuff13:51
Riddell+Recommends: vlc   is just copy and paste from phonon-backend-vlc13:51
apacheloggerI am not sure that makes sense13:51
apacheloggerotherwise looks fine13:52
apacheloggerBlizzz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6551241/ save to /usr/share/pyshared/synaptiks/monitors/mouses.py check if bug 737856 still happens, and if it does please post the traceback13:56
ubottubug 737856 in synaptiks (Ubuntu) "synaptiks crashed with KeyError in __getitem__(): u'No such property: NAME'" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73785613:56
Blizzzapachelogger: does not crash anymore13:59
Blizzzapachelogger: today the stuff crashed when my laptop woke from  sleep.  shall i try whether this fixes it,  too?14:00
apacheloggerBlizzzek: would be good I guess14:12
shadeslayer:(14:14
shadeslayeryofel_: you uploaded a new grantlee :(14:15
shadeslayerand I fixed kdevplatform to work with grantlee 0.314:15
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Riddellseems like new grantlee would be the way to go, 0.4 is out14:15
apacheloggerquantal is still supported14:18
apacheloggerwhat nonsense is that14:18
apacheloggerbrr14:18
Riddell18 months so it is14:20
Riddellbut we agreed not to do backports to it in Munich14:20
apacheloggerwell, to fix a bug in precise I kinda have to go through quantal14:20
apachelogger5 uploads to get a fix in14:20
apachelogger-.-14:20
RiddellSRUs will need it yes14:27
Riddellspeaking of which, I think I'll look at that Qt security issue now unless anyone knows of work being done on it14:27
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apachelogger* Start synaptiks14:36
apachelogger* Enable the option 'Automatically switch off touchpad, if a mouse is plugged'14:36
apacheloggersilliest test case ever14:36
jtal604622question about nepumok in 13.10,  seems slow and incomplete, i checked to make sure that its indexing all the folders i need, but if i type in a file name it seems to not be able to find it?14:36
jtal604622its a new install 5 days old, not sure if its a config issue at this point or if there is something else going on.  Even simple files it cannot locate easily14:38
Riddelljtal604622: support in #kubuntu14:39
apacheloggerScottK: a chain of synaptiks awainting sru for bug 737856 [precise, quantal, raring and saucy]14:42
ubottubug 737856 in synaptiks (Ubuntu Saucy) "synaptiks crashed with KeyError in __getitem__(): u'No such property: NAME'" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73785614:42
apacheloggerso sad14:43
apacheloggermy brain is kaput now14:43
shadeslayerRiddell: I'm going to update libkolabxml to 1.0.1 14:56
shadeslayerany objections?14:57
shadeslayer( then going to update libkolab to 0.5 )14:57
shadeslayer( possibly even merge from Debian if I can fix the FTBFS )14:57
Riddellshadeslayer: go for it14:58
shadeslayerRiddell: libkolab doesn't have any symbols, weird15:01
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1259577] Security: XML Entity Expansion Denial of Service @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1259577 (by Jonathan Riddell)15:10
yofel_shadeslayer: oops, sorry ^^15:19
shadeslayerRohan Garg (rohangarg) cannot upload libkolabxml to Trusty/Release15:19
shadeslayer:(15:19
Riddellshadeslayer: you want the power of motu!15:19
shadeslayerRiddell: upload plz https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+files/libkolabxml_1.0.1-0ubuntu1.dsc15:20
Riddellshadeslayer: can do15:21
Riddellxnox: you uploaded qtbase 5.0.2+dfsg1-7ubuntu12 but didn't commit to bzr?  do you know if that Add-workaround-for-GL-on-Android-emulator.patch is at all relevant in qt 5.2 (which is what's being worked on in bzr)15:21
xnoxRiddell: please see patch headers, i believe there is a link to qt submission and thus you can check if it has been merged into 5.2 or not15:23
Riddelllovely15:23
xnoxRiddell: it is absolutly needed to run Qt in the Android Emulator.15:23
Riddelljmux: "someone" should be you in this blog post? http://dilfridge.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/libreoffice-kde-integration.html15:24
shadeslayerRiddell: still waiting for that libkolabxml upload :)15:49
Riddelloh sorry, internet here is crawling15:50
shadeslayerSo Scottland is still village-like as compared to London? *runs away*15:51
Riddellthis office is, my home has much faster ineternet15:54
Riddellshadeslayer: not want to add symbols files?15:55
shadeslayernot right now15:55
RiddellI seem to remember having troubles with them in the past15:56
shadeslayerI'll try and add them in a later upload, but lets update it first15:56
Riddellshadeslayer: uploaded15:56
shadeslayerthx15:56
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Blizzzapachelogger: needed to leave, i try it out soon16:11
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1259577] Security: XML Entity Expansion Denial of Service @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1259577 (by Jonathan Riddell)16:13
BluesKajthe brightness in control power management disappeared after the latest upgrade ...nice :/16:17
shadeslayerthis is totally weird http://pastebin.kde.org/pf3kgvn7u16:18
apacheloggershadeslayer: ?16:21
shadeslayerapachelogger: querying version via python/C++ doesn't give me a version string16:21
apacheloggerread documentation maybe16:22
shadeslayerquerying it over qdbus works16:22
apacheloggerdat python code is using the session bus16:22
apacheloggerwhile your qdbus call is using the system bus16:22
shadeslayerapachelogger: doesn't matter, available on both busses, same thing with systembus16:23
shadeslayerhttp://pastebin.kde.org/p0brmjotq16:23
apacheloggerwelll, the query also looks wrong16:25
shadeslayerI've been thinking about what's wrong in my query, but I haven't be able to figure it out16:25
shadeslayernothing jumps out16:26
shadeslayerapachelogger: what looks wrong to you?16:27
apacheloggeryou call property but in your qdbus call you manually get16:28
apacheloggeralso that property name16:28
apacheloggernot sure that will work16:28
shadeslayerwell, I have no clue how else one is supposed to read properties with qdbus16:29
apacheloggerqdbus --system com.ubuntu.Upstart /com/ubuntu/Upstart com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.version16:29
apacheloggerError: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied16:29
apacheloggerso I'm going to guess that your pycode also gets access denied16:30
shadeslayerhow so16:30
shadeslayerit's calling property16:30
shadeslayernot ::call()16:30
shadeslayerhttp://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qdbusinterface.html16:30
* Riddell cheers as 4.0.3 goes into saucy-proposed16:30
shadeslayer" Finally, properties are accessed using the QObject::property() and QObject::setProperty() functions."16:30
shadeslayerRiddell: 4.0.3 ? 0.o16:31
Riddelland bluedevil 1.3.216:31
apachelogger>>> print(upstartinterface.lastError().message())16:32
apacheloggerThe name com.ubuntu.Upstart was not provided by any .service files16:32
apachelogger^^16:32
apacheloggershadeslayer: you don't want ot use that interface anyway16:33
apacheloggerit does runtime introspection16:33
apacheloggerwhich is a) sync b) slow16:33
shadeslayeryour computer is broken http://pastebin.kde.org/p8ztmyv0x16:33
Riddelljust use apt-cache policy :)16:33
shadeslayerin C++ code ? :O16:33
shadeslayerI'm just using python to demonstrate the issue I'm having in powerdevil :)16:34
apacheloggerah that was with session bus16:34
apacheloggershadeslayer: yeah, but you get access denied if you directly call the property interface16:34
apacheloggerwhich is likely what happens inside the pycode as well16:35
shadeslayerapachelogger: actually I don't get access denied16:35
shadeslayeroh16:35
shadeslayerwait, I do16:35
* apachelogger throws keyboard16:35
Rukaboa tarde - hello16:37
Riddellhi Ruka 16:37
Rukatudo bem16:37
Rukaoi Riddell16:38
Rukait's all right, Riddell16:38
RiddellRuka: how can we help?16:39
Ruka new kubuntu, debian wore,16:40
apacheloggershadeslayer: totally looks like a bug in upstart TBH... why would it work via .Get but not through the interface directly16:40
apacheloggerkinda silly16:40
apacheloggershadeslayer: on that note ...to work around it you can probably dispatch manual qdbusinterface::call() calls to the Get function16:41
shadeslayermhmm trying that16:42
shadeslayerapachelogger: doesn't work here16:45
shadeslayerhttp://pastebin.kde.org/pytbn2goh16:46
apachelogger?16:47
apacheloggerprobably because there is no qdbusmessage::isvalid... just like what the error message said?16:47
shadeslayerhow so, call is supposed to return a QDBusReply16:48
apacheloggerQDBusMessagecall ( const QString & method, const QVariant & arg1 = QVariant(), const QVariant & arg2 = QVariant(), const QVariant & arg3 = QVariant(), const QVariant & arg4 = QVariant(), const QVariant & arg5 = QVariant(), const QVariant & arg6 = QVariant(), const QVariant & arg7 = QVariant(), const QVariant & arg8 = QVariant() )16:50
apacheloggermaybe you should call it day? :P16:50
shadeslayero_o16:50
shadeslayerwell, my 2 hour slot for this particular issue is winding down16:51
shadeslayerhave another 30 minutes16:51
apacheloggerif you keep hacking like that you most certainly aint gonna make it :P16:51
shadeslayerheh, I have more QDBus maddness afterwards16:52
shadeslayermy C++ kcm communicates with a python dbus service which returns a{sa{sv}} in dbus types16:53
shadeslayerwhere v = QString sometimes and a QVariantMap sometimes16:53
shadeslayerthat's going to be fun to parse on the C++ side16:53
apacheloggereh16:54
apacheloggeractually marshalling is pretty straight forward16:54
apacheloggerit's just ugly code most of the time16:54
shadeslayeroh, how would one marshall a type that is a string for one key and a map for another key16:55
apacheloggeryou'll have to manually do it16:55
apacheloggerwell16:55
apacheloggertechnically it doesn't matter since you can statically marshall to QVariant16:56
apacheloggeror dbusvariant if that exists, and then decide elsewhere what type youc an cast it to16:56
apacheloggerwhich is generally what a variant is used for16:56
shadeslayerI see, I know that key 'a' will have a string value whereas key 'b' will have map value16:57
shadeslayerI can just cast it to a String/Map and it'll work?16:57
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://pastebin.kde.org/pzxijhuyt16:57
apacheloggerthat's how variants work, yes16:57
shadeslayersample data16:57
apacheloggerotherwise you'd have to write your own marshal16:58
apacheloggerhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/ubuntuone-client/gsoc/view/head:/src/libs/MarshalArgs.h#L2716:58
shadeslayerokay, I'll try it, but I'm skeptical since I vaguely recall doing casting and it didn't work16:58
apacheloggerhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/ubuntuone-client/gsoc/view/head:/src/libs/Folder.cpp#L12016:58
shadeslayerapachelogger: regarding the property, any thoughts? Or does it look like a bug in Upstart to you?16:58
apacheloggerbasically that entire source tree is 50% converting complex dbus types into cpp objects ^^16:59
shadeslayer:D16:59
apacheloggershadeslayer: I think it's a bug either interface should work or not work, I'd talk to someone about that16:59
shadeslayerack16:59
apacheloggersince there's no polkit action for upstart access though I doubt that access denied is actually intended17:00
apacheloggerbut who knows17:00
shadeslayerapachelogger: but then it doesn't work via session bus as well17:00
apacheloggerit's not registered on session bus17:00
shadeslayerqdbus  com.ubuntu.Upstart /com/ubuntu/Upstart com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.version17:00
shadeslayerworks for me17:00
apacheloggerwhich makes sense, because it's a system wide daemon 17:01
shadeslayereh17:01
shadeslayerhttp://pastebin.kde.org/paywtbadj17:01
apacheloggermay be that trusty's upstart can also register on the session17:01
shadeslayerpossibly17:01
apacheloggersaucy's cannot :P17:01
apacheloggerfor lack of dbus service file17:01
apacheloggeralas, that's how a session registration would work I guess ... dbus service starts pseudo interface which is just a pass through to the system interface17:02
apacheloggere.g. if you'd want to prevent direct query to the system service (which woudl explain the access denied) you'd have to do that17:02
apacheloggersecurity wise it would make sense17:03
apacheloggeras I said.. talk to someone about that :P17:03
BluesKajalright! Brightness ctrl back in PM , and mesa experimental provides OpenGL ,Raster and dir and some simple desktop effects like desktop cube animation switching 17:04
shadeslayerapachelogger: python3 is even more fun17:04
shadeslayer>>> upstartinterface = QDBusInterface("com.ubuntu.Upstart", "/com/ubuntu/Upstart", "com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6",QDBusConnection.sessionBus())17:04
shadeslayer>>> print(upstartinterface.property("version"))17:04
shadeslayerNone17:04
apachelogger*shrug*17:05
apacheloggerI'd not get old up on that manual query nonsense17:05
apacheloggeryou want a static interface17:05
apacheloggerlike here http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/D-Bus/Accessing_Interfaces#Is_This_the_Best_Way.3F_217:06
shadeslayerapachelogger: okay, can you expect that to work? instead of QDBusInterface?17:09
apacheloggerno, because I get access denied :P17:10
apacheloggerif you don't get access denied with qdbus on the session bus I'd go with a compiletime interface17:11
shadeslayerI do not17:11
apacheloggeryou could just as well only have that version property in your xml17:11
shadeslayerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6552117/17:12
apacheloggerthen you don't need to mess with complex types and all that17:12
apacheloggerright17:12
shadeslayerapachelogger: nah, complex types is for DriverManager17:12
shadeslayerthe KCM is in C++ and is communicating with a python script that exposes ubuntudrivers over dbus17:12
apacheloggershadeslayer: just comment out everything but the version, convert to class, try to use17:12
shadeslayerack17:12
apacheloggershadeslayer: why do you play with upstart then?17:13
apacheloggerI am confused :P17:13
apacheloggeranyway17:13
apacheloggercompiletime interfaces are easy to create17:13
shadeslayerapachelogger: so that we can drop pm-utils and use logind on Kubuntu17:13
shadeslayerfor suspending and what not17:13
apacheloggerin fact IMO easier than the manual rubbish because you know the internal bits will be correct ^^17:13
apacheloggershadeslayer: just use qdbus?17:14
apacheloggeror are you striving for a more general solution17:14
shadeslayerapachelogger: for powerdevil?17:14
apacheloggerbecause if not just kprocess the qdbus call17:14
shadeslayerI'd like to upstream the patch17:14
shadeslayerso yeah17:14
apacheloggerthen you definitely want the compile time interface17:15
apacheloggeras mentioned... the runtime API does runtime introspection which is runtime slow17:15
apacheloggerand blocking17:15
apacheloggerso you'd deadlock kded again17:15
apacheloggerand then people start to cry rivers again17:15
apachelogger...17:15
apacheloggertdlr: mustn't use qdbusinterface in kded rubbish ^^17:16
shadeslayerheh17:16
shadeslayerapachelogger: one last question17:16
shadeslayerwait17:16
apacheloggerno I will not marry you17:17
shadeslayer/o\17:17
shadeslayerapachelogger: where does one specify the first part of the dbus interface? ( com.ubuntu.Upstart in our case )17:17
apacheloggerin the xml17:19
apacheloggersee kcm-whoopsie17:19
shadeslayerack17:19
apacheloggertop 6 whoopsie crashers in 13.10 are fixed in 14.04 \o/17:28
shadeslayerapachelogger: that works17:45
shadeslayerthe dbus adaptor stuff17:45
shadeslayerapachelogger: and how do you find out the top crashers for kubuntu specifically?17:46
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1259577] Security: XML Entity Expansion Denial of Service @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1259577 (by Jonathan Riddell)19:17
amichairRiddell: 4.11.3 didn't go well for me, I added a comment on bug #124723519:29
ubottubug 1247235 in kde4libs (Ubuntu Saucy) "SRU tracking bug for KDE SC 4.11.3" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124723519:29
shadeslayerapachelogger: ping19:31
Riddellamichair: oh?20:03
Riddellamichair: you say from PPA, this needs testing from the archive20:04
Riddellfrom -proposed20:04
amichairRiddell: oh, they're not the same?20:09
apacheloggershadeslayer: hm?20:16
shadeslayernothing20:17
shadeslayerI went mental over qt4_add_dbus_interface20:17
apachelogger^^20:17
shadeslayerapparently needs to be called *before* kde4_add_ui_files20:17
apacheloggeralso top crashers: filter for packages assigned to kubuntu-bugs20:17
shadeslayercalling it afterwards just screws over anything20:17
shadeslayerack20:17
shadeslayerapachelogger: do you know how to install a python script to /usr/bin and mark it as executable using cmake?20:23
shadeslayernvm20:25
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://pastebin.kde.org/przdm58rp20:29
shadeslayerapachelogger: line 8120:29
shadeslayerhttp://pastebin.kde.org/p73hrk6lt20:30
Blizzzapachelogger: does not fix the crash after wake up20:30
* shadeslayer has a headache20:35
shadeslayercya20:35
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Riddellamichair: who knows? that's what needs testing20:38
amichairRiddell: hehe... so u can ignore my comment in that case. But I really hope it won't happen again...20:38
amichairRiddell: I thought the packages were promoted from the ppa to proposed to updates or something like that, but I guess I was wrong :-)20:40
Riddellamichair: yes but mistakes can happen20:41
apacheloggerBlizzz: backtrace please20:51
apacheloggershadeslayer: static_cast?20:52
apacheloggerwhat?20:52
apacheloggerhttps://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qvariant.html#value20:53
apacheloggerwith variants you never ever cast20:53
Blizzzapachelogger: meh, where do i get it from? the blue-stained bug-thingy was not helpful aka disappeared 21:05
apacheloggerstart from terminal21:06
Quintasan\o21:11
shadeslayerapachelogger: /home/shadeslayer/sauce/Kubuntu/kcm-driver-manager/src/Module.cpp:81:98: error: expected primary-expression before ‘>’ token21:15
shadeslayer         QMap<QString, QMap<QString, bool>> test = mapmap.value<QMap<QString, QMap<QString, bool>>>("drivers");21:15
Quintasanhttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=72770821:20
ubottuDebian bug 727708 in tech-ctte "tech-ctte: Decide which init system to default to in Debian." [Normal,Open]21:20
Quintasanchrist21:20
Quintasan800 posts and still nothing 21:21
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1259577] Security: XML Entity Expansion Denial of Service @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1259577 (by Jonathan Riddell)21:23
shadeslayerah hmm21:24
RiddellQuintasan: they should toss a coin22:02
QuintasanRiddell: That sounds like a good idea.22:59
Quintasanbtw. clean Saucy install feels good22:59
Quintasanmmkay, gotta get a new HDD and I can finally make some LVM magic to get my working env in order23:00
_Groo_hi/2 all23:20
_Groo_ping yofel_23:20
_Groo_ping schmidtm23:20
_Groo_ping ScottK23:20
_Groo_anyone alive23:21
_Groo_unless im blind, kdebase-workspace is MIA in the backports ppa23:22
_Groo_its giving strange results in the kubuntu 4.12 rc23:22
Riddellkdebase-workspace went away some time ago23:22
Riddellkde-workspace is sticking at 4.1123:22
Riddellwhat problem is it causing?23:22
_Groo_Riddell: hey riddell long time no see :)23:22
_Groo_run alt-f223:23
_Groo_scroll down below the visible list23:23
_Groo_you will see the listing is missing the clickable buttons23:23
_Groo_this is for the entire desktop23:23
_Groo_something broke in the kwin or plasma refresh beyond the visible screen23:24
_Groo_it was/is working fine if you revert from 4.12 to 4.1123:24
_Groo_aka 4.11.9723:24
_Groo_can you replicate what i just reported?23:26
Riddellkrunner working fine for me23:26
_Groo_so, you run krunner, click on the wrench icon, scroll down the visible list, and the buttons are all there?23:27
_Groo_you arent missing the information and clickable boxes?23:28
Riddellah I see, some of the "i" buttons are missing until you move the mouse over them23:28
_Groo_until you click over them23:28
_Groo_click on one of the items23:29
_Groo_you will see it was missing theleft button too23:29
_Groo_this is desktop wide23:29
_Groo_can be a pain in our empathy client23:29
_Groo_since the updated friends list wont update until you click on them23:29
_Groo_and so on and so on23:29
_Groo_aparently someone forgot to add a refresh in kwin or something23:30
_Groo_or its plasma23:30
_Groo_i dont really know23:30
Riddellwell I guess the thing to do is like any bug see if it appears in other distros and if it does report it upstream23:32
_Groo_i cant check other distros23:37
_Groo_i tried googling for it23:37
_Groo_but its a mess to search23:37
_Groo_how am i gonna do with such generic keys as: dropdown list doesnt show up unless i click on it, plasma? kwin? :D23:37
_Groo_i tried to parse bugs.kde23:38
_Groo_nothing similar showing up23:38
_Groo_i remember the kwin guy did a good scrub in 4.1223:38
_Groo_it might be such a stupid thing as a lack of offscreen refresh23:39

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