| Tlan | hello | 00:28 |
|---|---|---|
| Tlan | i need help installing lubuntu on my netbook | 00:28 |
| Tlan | i have a netbook with an AMD A6 apu | 00:28 |
| Tlan | and lubuntu is not detecting my gpu | 00:28 |
| Tlan | i get a black screen when it tries to boot up | 00:29 |
| Tlan | like i get the splash screen but then it goes black and does nothing | 00:29 |
| Tlan | any idea how to get this working ? | 00:29 |
| holstein | !nomodeset | 00:30 |
| ubottu | A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter | 00:30 |
| Tlan | how do i set this parameter | 00:30 |
| holstein | and, i usually end up loading a live CD such as puppy or knoppix and using a custom xorg.conf from there | 00:31 |
| holstein | Tlan: i set it by following the instructions in the link above | 00:31 |
| Tlan | where do i place the text | 00:31 |
| holstein | Tlan: i do it from a live cd.. or, if you have already installed, you could put an xorg.conf in place to force the vesa driver | 00:31 |
| holstein | Tlan: what text? | 00:31 |
| Tlan | iam booting froma usb stick | 00:32 |
| Tlan | trying to boot to test it out | 00:32 |
| Tlan | i hit letter e | 00:32 |
| Tlan | and i have this box wiht text in it | 00:32 |
| Tlan | where do i type in those parameters | 00:32 |
| Tlan | iam using a uefi bios | 00:32 |
| Tlan | its grub menui | 00:33 |
| Tlan | when i hit e | 00:33 |
| holstein | !uefi | 00:34 |
| ubottu | UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI | 00:34 |
| Tlan | says " set gfxpayload=keep linux /casper/vmlinuz file=cdrom/presse/lubuntu.seed | 00:35 |
| Tlan | i got an error said it can't find command nomodeset | 00:36 |
| holstein | Tlan: its not a command | 00:37 |
| Tlan | where do i type it in | 00:38 |
| Tlan | iam trying to find that out right now | 00:38 |
| holstein | Tlan: let me open the link i gave you, read it, and convey to you *exactly* what to do.. please relas | 00:38 |
| holstein | relax* | 00:38 |
| Tlan | iam reading it | 00:38 |
| Tlan | do you know what i mean | 00:38 |
| Tlan | like when you boot lubuntu from usb stick | 00:38 |
| Tlan | in uefi mode | 00:38 |
| Tlan | you get a black and white box ask you if you want to try it or install it | 00:39 |
| Tlan | you can hit e or c | 00:39 |
| holstein | Tlan: please relax | 00:39 |
| holstein | Tlan: you'll hit e to edit.. then, you'll add "nomodeset" | 00:39 |
| holstein | Tlan: making the output look like http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3509/dgfdgrunningoraclevmvir.png | 00:39 |
| holstein | then, to make it permanent, after installation.. GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset" | 00:40 |
| Tlan | ok | 00:41 |
| Tlan | do i need quotes | 00:43 |
| Tlan | its still black screening | 00:43 |
| holstein | no.. you make it look *just* like the image | 00:43 |
| Tlan | i don't have it installed | 00:43 |
| Tlan | just trying to try it out | 00:44 |
| Tlan | ok | 00:44 |
| holstein | Tlan: the "after you have it installed" step is for after you have it installed | 00:44 |
| Tlan | so type all that stuff | 00:44 |
| holstein | Tlan: no | 00:44 |
| holstein | Tlan: you literally type.. "nomodeset" | 00:44 |
| holstein | without the quotes.. at the end of the line | 00:44 |
| holstein | type no other stuff | 00:44 |
| holstein | not quotation marks | 00:44 |
| Tlan | then hit f10 | 00:45 |
| holstein | Tlan: hit whatever it takes to save that, and return to grub, and boot the kernel entry you just edited | 00:45 |
| Tlan | oh | 00:46 |
| Tlan | ok | 00:46 |
| holstein | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 refers to "control+x" | 00:46 |
| holstein | by "control+x", i mean, the control key, usually labeled "ctrl", being held down, and them pressing the "x" key | 00:46 |
| holstein | *quotation marks used to indicate exact text from the labels on the keys | 00:47 |
| Tlan | ok | 00:48 |
| Tlan | i hit ctl + x | 00:48 |
| Tlan | nothing happened | 00:48 |
| Tlan | does that mean its saved now ? | 00:48 |
| holstein | thats what the page implies | 00:48 |
| Tlan | then after that hit f10 | 00:49 |
| holstein | Tlan: the text at the bottom should tell you what the commads are | 00:49 |
| holstein | Tlan: f10 sounds like something you hit for your bios | 00:49 |
| Tlan | i think the problem was i was not saving my edits | 00:49 |
| holstein | Tlan: i think you are mixing guides | 00:49 |
| Tlan | well i just did crt+X then hit f10 to boot | 00:50 |
| Tlan | thats what it says | 00:50 |
| Tlan | shit can't be right | 00:50 |
| holstein | !language | 00:50 |
| ubottu | Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. | 00:50 |
| Tlan | sorry | 00:50 |
| holstein | no worries | 00:50 |
| Tlan | can i give the model number of the machine iam using | 00:51 |
| Tlan | i am using an ACER V5 122p-0643 | 00:51 |
| holstein | Tlan: sure.. but it wont help me help you | 00:51 |
| holstein | Tlan: nomodeset is what i use.. or i just install using the minimal or alternate iso | 00:51 |
| Tlan | i think the problem iam having is that its not saving the edit | 00:53 |
| ianorlin | although with alternate will he need nomodeset once it starts booting after restarting? | 00:53 |
| holstein | i found i had to set it manually in lubuntu after installation | 00:54 |
| holstein | but that was 12.04 i tested on such hardware | 00:54 |
| Tlan | this 13.10 | 00:54 |
| Tlan | i have installed xubuntu 13.04 before | 00:54 |
| Tlan | i could only install it | 00:54 |
| Tlan | the live usb would not boot | 00:54 |
| Tlan | its because this laptop has a new amd apu | 00:55 |
| Tlan | and it relies on the amd drivers to work | 00:55 |
| holstein | Tlan: i was responding to ianorlin relating to 12.04 | 00:56 |
| Tlan | sorry | 00:59 |
| Tlan | i don't know what to do | 00:59 |
| holstein | Tlan: i would test the iso | 00:59 |
| Tlan | thats thing | 00:59 |
| holstein | Tlan: if it used to work on 13.04, it should work on 13.10 | 00:59 |
| Tlan | iam typing on my desktop pc | 00:59 |
| holstein | Tlan: at this point, i would just wait on 14.04, and keep using what works.. 13.04 | 01:00 |
| Tlan | and i can boot right into lubuntu usiing this live usb | 01:00 |
| Tlan | lubuntu is really nice | 01:00 |
| Tlan | very fast | 01:00 |
| Tlan | i haven | 01:00 |
| Tlan | can i install 13.04 and upgrade to 13.10 ? | 01:00 |
| ianorlin | yes | 01:00 |
| ianorlin | back things up first though is strongly recomended | 01:01 |
| Tlan | i had xubuntu 13.04 working before | 01:01 |
| ianorlin | !pureubuntu | 01:01 |
| ubottu | If you want to remove all !Kubuntu packages or !Xubuntu packages and have a default !Ubuntu system, follow the instructions here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu | 01:01 |
| Tlan | well i have windows 8 installed on it right now | 01:01 |
| ianorlin | thre is one for all flavors | 01:01 |
| holstein | just use 13.04 | 01:02 |
| holstein | !13.04 | 01:02 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) was the 18th release of Ubuntu, Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/ - Release notes: http://ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/13.04 | 01:02 |
| Tlan | and then i can upgrade to 13.10 | 01:08 |
| holstein | or, just use 13.04 | 01:09 |
| Tlan | i want the lastest version i like the new features | 01:10 |
| Tlan | i really liked it when i used it on my desktop | 01:10 |
| holstein | Tlan: you liked 13.10? | 01:10 |
| Tlan | yea when i tested the live usb | 01:11 |
| Tlan | why is it worse than 13.04 | 01:11 |
| Tlan | iam thinking maybe i should run my bios in legacy mode | 01:11 |
| Tlan | on the this laptop | 01:11 |
| holstein | Tlan: its not worse than 13.04.. its different, andif you prefer 13.04, use 13.04 | 01:23 |
| Tlan | hey | 01:23 |
| Tlan | i got it boot in legacy bios mode | 01:23 |
| Tlan | by hitting tab | 01:23 |
| holstein | so, its a uefi thing, and not a graphics thing | 01:23 |
| Tlan | and i typed nomodeset after "--" | 01:23 |
| holstein | or, im just not followting.. | 01:24 |
| Tlan | i dunno | 01:24 |
| Tlan | its weird its like it doesn't save my edits in the uefi menu | 01:24 |
| Tlan | but this fast on the live usb | 01:24 |
| Tlan | the live usb is soo much faster than windows 8.1 | 01:29 |
| holstein | Tlan: i think there is a windows channel, if you need to discuss windows | 01:30 |
| Tlan | no iam just saying i really like this distro | 01:31 |
| Tlan | this laptop is running a ultra low power 1ghz quad core | 01:31 |
| Tlan | the tdp is 8watts | 01:31 |
| Tlan | but it has a pretty good gpu side | 01:31 |
| Tlan | i have 8gb of ddr3 installed | 01:31 |
| Tlan | and an 128gb ssd | 01:31 |
| Tlan | flash does not come preinstalled? | 01:41 |
| Tlan | how do you search in the lubuntu app center | 01:41 |
| holstein | !flash | 01:41 |
| ubottu | To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also !Restricted and !Gnash | 01:41 |
| holstein | Tlan: flash is not allowed to be included | 01:41 |
| Tlan | alright i figured out what was the problem in uefi mode | 01:52 |
| nannes | Tlan: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer | 01:53 |
| nannes | if you want more plugins (proprietary), run ---> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras | 01:53 |
| Tlan | i enabled secure mode in uefi mode in my bios | 01:53 |
| nannes | ahhhh:) | 01:53 |
| Tlan | than i had to select the grub64.efi bios as a trusted file for the bios to allow | 01:53 |
| nannes | Actually, ubuntu is compatible with secure mode... but it's a little bit of tricky to make it work | 01:53 |
| Tlan | then i booted to the grub menu hit e | 01:54 |
| Tlan | and then typed nomodeset hit f10 now it boots no blackscreens | 01:54 |
| Tlan | no it was not that tricky | 01:54 |
| nannes | Tlan: you should also try to restrict the "nomodeset" to the real cause | 01:54 |
| Tlan | i think it tried it before but selected bootx64.efi instead of grub64.efi | 01:54 |
| nannes | by trying separately acpi=off , nolapic | 01:55 |
| nannes | !nomodeset | 01:55 |
| ubottu | A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter | 01:55 |
| Tlan | no becuase it didn't work before when you were helping me | 01:55 |
| nannes | I wasn't helping you lol | 01:55 |
| nannes | I''ve just arrived | 01:55 |
| * ianorlin thinks Tlan is talking to holstein | 01:57 | |
| Tlan | the live usb runs better in efi mode than legacy | 01:59 |
| nannes | lol sorry, my fault, my minuscule brain couldn't see through that, considering that in the last ~20 posts holstein didn't even talk lol | 02:00 |
| Tlan | this distro is so awesome | 02:02 |
| Tlan | secure erase ssd nessesary | 02:03 |
| holstein | Tlan: you are looking for an application to securely erase a hard drive? | 02:19 |
| Tlan | 02:28 | |
| Tlan | this is problem i have | 02:28 |
| Tlan | i have the samsung boot secure erase thing | 02:28 |
| Tlan | where you make a bootable usb to secure erase it | 02:28 |
| Tlan | but i need to put the pc in sleep mode | 02:28 |
| Tlan | to get the ssd out of a frozen state | 02:29 |
| Tlan | is there a freedos command to put the laptop to sleep | 02:29 |
| holstein | Tlan: if you want to securely delete hard drives, i use http://www.dban.org/ .. im not familiar with any of your specific hardware or software cases | 02:29 |
| Tlan | SSD are different | 02:30 |
| Tlan | it issues a SATA command to basicaly revert all the nand to zeros | 02:31 |
| holstein | AFAIK, you can treat them as normal drives | 02:31 |
| holstein | Tlan: http://www.unixmen.com/secure-erase-your-ssd/ is where i would start | 02:31 |
| Tlan | how do you put a comptuer to sleep from a dos prompt | 02:33 |
| holstein | Tlan: i dont use dos | 02:33 |
| ianorlin | /me doesn't either | 02:36 |
| holstein | Tlan: "Try different configurations until you manage to defroze your disk. Finally, your output will be similar to this: - See more at: http://www.unixmen.com/secure-erase-your-ssd/#sthash.Z9pr4EXP.dpuf" | 02:36 |
| Tlan | parted magic does not wake up from sleep | 02:39 |
| Tlan | thats my problem | 02:39 |
| ianorlin | http://hackipedia.org/Platform/x86/BIOS/EFI%20Extensible%20Firmware%20Interface/UEFI/pdf/UEFI%20Shell%20Specification_2_0.pdf might have it but is long | 03:00 |
| ianorlin | I can't just control+f for sleep though | 03:01 |
| ianorlin | ah crud wouln't it be uefi 2.1 as that is what has secure boot | 03:01 |
| Tlan | does the lubuntu installer know to use GPT | 03:28 |
| Tlan | if your on uefi | 03:28 |
| Tlan | the theme for lubuntu 13.10 is very sharp | 03:36 |
| Tlan | hey | 04:20 |
| Tlan | how do access the grub menu after in installed lubuntu | 04:20 |
| Tlan | i need to boot with nomodeset | 04:20 |
| Tlan | because now i can't access the terminal when i press crtl + alt + f1 | 04:21 |
| Tlan | its all screwed up | 04:21 |
| Tlan | then i have to hit f7 to get back to the gui | 04:21 |
| Unit193 | <Shift> right after the BIOS screen. | 04:22 |
| Tlan | doesn't do anythign | 04:25 |
| Unit193 | Have to hit it at the right time | 04:26 |
| Unit193 | !grub | 04:26 |
| ubottu | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 | 04:26 |
| Tlan | i cannot install amd drivers in lubuntu | 04:33 |
| Tlan | sucks | 04:33 |
| Tlan | it says it can't find the zip file to unzip | 04:33 |
| Tlan | do i have to be in crtl+alt+F1 terminal to install video drivers? | 04:35 |
| Unit193 | Run: software-properties-gtk --open-tab=4 | 04:35 |
| Tlan | i want to install this | 04:37 |
| Tlan | http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/latest-linux-beta-driver.aspx | 04:37 |
| Tlan | how do i get into the grub menu | 04:39 |
| Tlan | its not shift | 04:39 |
| Tlan | i was pressing that | 04:39 |
| Tlan | this is fustrating | 04:44 |
| Tlan | iam hitting shift | 04:44 |
| Tlan | nothing happen | 04:44 |
| Tlan | this is grub2 | 04:44 |
| Tlan | i decided to see maybe try updating lubuntu | 04:50 |
| Tlan | maybe that might fix my issue | 04:50 |
| nimtz | how to you select a WM (openbox) before starting asession in 13.10 | 07:15 |
| ianorlin | it is at the top towards the right hand corner | 07:18 |
| nimtz | ohh, thanks | 07:20 |
| nimtz | didnt see that bar | 07:20 |
| nimtz | ha, fresh install openbox 13.10 lubuntu takes more memory than lxde | 07:23 |
| nimtz | i guess lxde stays loaded up | 07:24 |
| ianorlin | it does have more virtual desktops by default though | 07:35 |
| Krispis | good morning | 09:21 |
| JesseH | Whats the key combination to minimize a full screen app? | 10:18 |
| JesseH | Like a game for instance | 10:18 |
| JesseH | windows key doesnt work | 10:19 |
| lubuntu007 | desktop pager is buggy | 13:17 |
| lubuntu007 | on livecd is fine | 13:17 |
| h2mster | h | 14:26 |
| h2mster | i | 14:26 |
| javier555 | hello :) can you help me with a dobut of lubuntu? sorry for my bad english | 17:35 |
| wxl | !ask | javier555 | 17:36 |
| ubottu | javier555: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 17:36 |
| javier555 | .docx files has the zip icon, do you know how can I set the document icon for that extension? | 17:37 |
| javier555 | wxl can you help me please? | 17:40 |
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