[00:28] <Tlan> hello
[00:28] <Tlan> i need help installing lubuntu on my netbook
[00:28] <Tlan> i have a netbook with an AMD A6 apu
[00:28] <Tlan> and lubuntu is not detecting my gpu
[00:29] <Tlan> i get a black screen when it tries to boot up
[00:29] <Tlan> like i get the splash screen but then it goes black and does nothing
[00:29] <Tlan> any idea how to get this working ?
[00:30] <holstein> !nomodeset
[00:30] <Tlan> how do i set this parameter
[00:31] <holstein> and, i usually end up loading a live CD such as puppy or knoppix and using a custom xorg.conf from there
[00:31] <holstein> Tlan: i set it by following the instructions in the link above
[00:31] <Tlan> where do i place the text
[00:31] <holstein> Tlan: i do it from a live cd.. or, if you have already installed, you could put an xorg.conf in place to force the vesa driver
[00:31] <holstein> Tlan: what text?
[00:32] <Tlan> iam booting froma  usb stick
[00:32] <Tlan> trying to boot to test it out
[00:32] <Tlan> i hit letter e
[00:32] <Tlan> and i have this box wiht text in it
[00:32] <Tlan> where do i type in those parameters
[00:32] <Tlan> iam using a uefi bios
[00:33] <Tlan> its grub menui
[00:33] <Tlan> when i hit e
[00:34] <holstein> !uefi
[00:35] <Tlan> says " set gfxpayload=keep  linux  /casper/vmlinuz file=cdrom/presse/lubuntu.seed
[00:36] <Tlan> i got an error said it can't find command  nomodeset
[00:37] <holstein> Tlan: its not a command
[00:38] <Tlan> where do i type it in
[00:38] <Tlan> iam trying to find that out right now
[00:38] <holstein> Tlan: let me open the link i gave you, read it, and convey to you *exactly* what to do.. please relas
[00:38] <holstein> relax*
[00:38] <Tlan> iam reading it
[00:38] <Tlan> do you know what i mean
[00:38] <Tlan> like when you boot lubuntu from usb stick
[00:38] <Tlan> in uefi mode
[00:39] <Tlan> you get a black and white box ask you if you want to try it or install it
[00:39] <Tlan> you can hit e or c
[00:39] <holstein> Tlan: please relax
[00:39] <holstein> Tlan: you'll hit e to edit.. then, you'll add "nomodeset"
[00:39] <holstein> Tlan: making the output look like http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3509/dgfdgrunningoraclevmvir.png
[00:40] <holstein> then, to make it permanent, after installation.. GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"
[00:41] <Tlan> ok
[00:43] <Tlan> do i need quotes
[00:43] <Tlan> its still black screening
[00:43] <holstein> no.. you make it look *just* like the image
[00:43] <Tlan> i don't have it installed
[00:44] <Tlan> just trying to try it out
[00:44] <Tlan> ok
[00:44] <holstein> Tlan: the "after you have it installed" step is for after you have it installed
[00:44] <Tlan> so type all that stuff
[00:44] <holstein> Tlan: no
[00:44] <holstein> Tlan: you literally type.. "nomodeset"
[00:44] <holstein> without the quotes.. at the end of the line
[00:44] <holstein> type no other stuff
[00:44] <holstein> not quotation marks
[00:45] <Tlan>  then hit f10
[00:45] <holstein> Tlan: hit whatever it takes to save that, and return to grub, and boot the kernel entry you just edited
[00:46] <Tlan> oh
[00:46] <Tlan> ok
[00:46] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 refers to "control+x"
[00:46] <holstein> by "control+x", i mean, the control key, usually labeled "ctrl", being held down, and them pressing the "x" key
[00:47] <holstein> *quotation marks used to indicate exact text from the labels on the keys
[00:48] <Tlan> ok
[00:48] <Tlan> i hit ctl + x
[00:48] <Tlan> nothing happened
[00:48] <Tlan> does that mean its saved now ?
[00:48] <holstein> thats what the page implies
[00:49] <Tlan> then after that hit f10
[00:49] <holstein> Tlan: the text at the bottom should tell you what the commads are
[00:49] <holstein> Tlan: f10 sounds like something you hit for your bios
[00:49] <Tlan> i think the problem was i was not saving my edits
[00:49] <holstein> Tlan: i think you are mixing guides
[00:50] <Tlan> well i just did crt+X  then hit f10 to boot
[00:50] <Tlan> thats what it says
[00:50] <Tlan> shit can't be right
[00:50] <holstein> !language
[00:50] <Tlan> sorry
[00:50] <holstein> no worries
[00:51] <Tlan> can i give the model number of the machine iam using
[00:51] <Tlan> i am using an ACER V5 122p-0643
[00:51] <holstein> Tlan: sure.. but it wont help me help you
[00:51] <holstein> Tlan: nomodeset is what i use.. or i just install using the minimal or alternate iso
[00:53] <Tlan>  i think the problem iam having is that its not saving the edit
[00:53] <ianorlin> although with alternate will he need nomodeset once it starts booting after restarting?
[00:54] <holstein> i found i had to set it manually in lubuntu after installation
[00:54] <holstein> but that was 12.04 i tested on such hardware
[00:54] <Tlan> this 13.10
[00:54] <Tlan> i have installed xubuntu 13.04 before
[00:54] <Tlan> i could only install it
[00:54] <Tlan> the live usb would not boot
[00:55] <Tlan> its because this laptop has a new amd apu
[00:55] <Tlan> and it relies on the amd drivers to work
[00:56] <holstein> Tlan: i was responding to ianorlin relating to 12.04
[00:59] <Tlan> sorry
[00:59] <Tlan> i don't know what to do
[00:59] <holstein> Tlan: i would test the iso
[00:59] <Tlan> thats thing
[00:59] <holstein> Tlan: if it used to work on 13.04, it should work on 13.10
[00:59] <Tlan>  iam typing on my desktop pc
[01:00] <holstein> Tlan: at this point, i would just wait on 14.04, and keep using what works.. 13.04
[01:00] <Tlan> and i can boot right into lubuntu usiing this live usb
[01:00] <Tlan> lubuntu is really nice
[01:00] <Tlan> very fast
[01:00] <Tlan> i haven
[01:00] <Tlan> can i install 13.04 and upgrade to 13.10 ?
[01:00] <ianorlin> yes
[01:01] <ianorlin> back things up first though is strongly recomended
[01:01] <Tlan> i had xubuntu 13.04 working before
[01:01] <ianorlin> !pureubuntu
[01:01] <Tlan> well i have windows 8 installed on it right now
[01:01] <ianorlin> thre is one for all flavors
[01:02] <holstein> just use 13.04
[01:02] <holstein> !13.04
[01:08] <Tlan> and then i can upgrade to 13.10
[01:09] <holstein> or, just use 13.04
[01:10] <Tlan> i want the lastest version i like the new features
[01:10] <Tlan> i really liked it when i used it on my desktop
[01:10] <holstein> Tlan: you liked 13.10?
[01:11] <Tlan> yea when i tested the live usb
[01:11] <Tlan> why is it worse than 13.04
[01:11] <Tlan> iam thinking maybe i should run my bios in legacy mode
[01:11] <Tlan> on the this laptop
[01:23] <holstein> Tlan: its not worse than 13.04.. its different, andif you prefer 13.04, use 13.04
[01:23] <Tlan> hey
[01:23] <Tlan> i got it boot in legacy bios mode
[01:23] <Tlan> by hitting tab
[01:23] <holstein> so, its a uefi thing, and not a graphics thing
[01:23] <Tlan> and i typed nomodeset after "--"
[01:24] <holstein> or, im just not followting..
[01:24] <Tlan> i dunno
[01:24] <Tlan> its weird its like it doesn't save my edits in the uefi menu
[01:24] <Tlan> but this fast on the live usb
[01:29] <Tlan> the live usb is soo much faster than windows 8.1
[01:30] <holstein> Tlan: i think there is a windows channel, if you need to discuss windows
[01:31] <Tlan> no iam just saying i really like this distro
[01:31] <Tlan> this laptop is running a ultra low power 1ghz quad core
[01:31] <Tlan> the tdp is 8watts
[01:31] <Tlan> but it has a pretty good gpu side
[01:31] <Tlan> i have 8gb of ddr3 installed
[01:31] <Tlan> and an 128gb ssd
[01:41] <Tlan> flash does not come preinstalled?
[01:41] <Tlan> how do you search in the lubuntu app center
[01:41] <holstein> !flash
[01:41] <holstein> Tlan: flash is not allowed to be included
[01:52] <Tlan> alright i figured out what was the problem in uefi mode
[01:53] <nannes> Tlan: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[01:53] <nannes> if you want more plugins (proprietary), run ---> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:53] <Tlan> i enabled secure mode in uefi mode in my bios
[01:53] <nannes> ahhhh:)
[01:53] <Tlan> than i had to select the grub64.efi bios as a trusted file for the bios to allow
[01:53] <nannes> Actually, ubuntu is compatible with secure mode... but it's a little bit of tricky to make it work
[01:54] <Tlan> then i booted to the grub menu hit e
[01:54] <Tlan> and then typed nomodeset hit f10 now it boots no blackscreens
[01:54] <Tlan> no it was not that tricky
[01:54] <nannes> Tlan: you should also try to restrict the "nomodeset" to the real cause
[01:54] <Tlan> i think it tried it before but selected bootx64.efi instead of grub64.efi
[01:55] <nannes> by trying  separately  acpi=off , nolapic
[01:55] <nannes> !nomodeset
[01:55] <Tlan> no becuase it didn't work before when you were helping me
[01:55] <nannes> I wasn't helping you lol
[01:55] <nannes> I''ve just arrived
[01:57]  * ianorlin thinks Tlan is talking to holstein
[01:59] <Tlan> the live usb runs better in efi mode than legacy
[02:00] <nannes> lol sorry, my fault, my minuscule brain couldn't see through that, considering that in the last ~20 posts holstein didn't even talk lol
[02:02] <Tlan> this distro is so awesome
[02:03] <Tlan> secure erase ssd nessesary
[02:19] <holstein> Tlan: you are looking for an application to securely erase a hard drive?
[02:28] <Tlan>  
[02:28] <Tlan> this is problem i have
[02:28] <Tlan> i have the samsung boot secure erase thing
[02:28] <Tlan> where you make a bootable usb to secure erase it
[02:28] <Tlan> but i need to put the pc in sleep mode
[02:29] <Tlan> to get the ssd out of a frozen state
[02:29] <Tlan> is there a freedos command to put the laptop to sleep
[02:29] <holstein> Tlan: if you want to securely delete hard drives, i use http://www.dban.org/ .. im not familiar with any of your specific hardware or software cases
[02:30] <Tlan> SSD are different
[02:31] <Tlan> it issues a SATA command to basicaly revert all the nand to zeros
[02:31] <holstein> AFAIK, you can treat them as normal drives
[02:31] <holstein> Tlan: http://www.unixmen.com/secure-erase-your-ssd/ is where i would start
[02:33] <Tlan> how do you put a comptuer to sleep from a dos prompt
[02:33] <holstein> Tlan: i dont use dos
[02:36] <ianorlin>  /me doesn't either
[02:36] <holstein> Tlan: "Try different configurations until you manage to defroze your disk. Finally, your output will be similar to this: - See more at: http://www.unixmen.com/secure-erase-your-ssd/#sthash.Z9pr4EXP.dpuf"
[02:39] <Tlan> parted magic does not wake up from sleep
[02:39] <Tlan> thats my problem
[03:00] <ianorlin> http://hackipedia.org/Platform/x86/BIOS/EFI%20Extensible%20Firmware%20Interface/UEFI/pdf/UEFI%20Shell%20Specification_2_0.pdf might have it but is long
[03:01] <ianorlin> I can't just control+f for sleep though
[03:01] <ianorlin> ah crud wouln't it be uefi 2.1 as that is what has secure boot
[03:28] <Tlan> does the lubuntu installer know to use GPT
[03:28] <Tlan> if your on uefi
[03:36] <Tlan> the theme for lubuntu 13.10 is very sharp
[04:20] <Tlan> hey
[04:20] <Tlan> how do access the grub menu after in installed lubuntu
[04:20] <Tlan> i need to boot with nomodeset
[04:21] <Tlan> because now i can't access the terminal when i press crtl + alt + f1
[04:21] <Tlan> its all screwed up
[04:21] <Tlan> then i have to hit f7 to get back to the gui
 right after the BIOS screen.
[04:25] <Tlan> doesn't do anythign
[04:26] <Unit193> Have to hit it at the right time
[04:26] <Unit193> !grub
[04:33] <Tlan> i cannot install amd drivers in lubuntu
[04:33] <Tlan> sucks
[04:33] <Tlan> it says it can't find the zip file to unzip
[04:35] <Tlan> do i have to be in crtl+alt+F1 terminal to install video drivers?
[04:35] <Unit193> Run: software-properties-gtk --open-tab=4
[04:37] <Tlan> i want to install this
[04:37] <Tlan> http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/latest-linux-beta-driver.aspx
[04:39] <Tlan> how do i get into the grub menu
[04:39] <Tlan> its not shift
[04:39] <Tlan> i was pressing that
[04:44] <Tlan> this is fustrating
[04:44] <Tlan> iam hitting shift
[04:44] <Tlan> nothing happen
[04:44] <Tlan> this is grub2
[04:50] <Tlan> i decided to see maybe try updating lubuntu
[04:50] <Tlan> maybe that might fix my issue
[07:15] <nimtz> how to you select a WM (openbox) before starting  asession in 13.10
[07:18] <ianorlin> it is at the top towards the right hand corner
[07:20] <nimtz> ohh, thanks
[07:20] <nimtz> didnt see that bar
[07:23] <nimtz> ha, fresh install openbox 13.10 lubuntu takes more memory than lxde
[07:24] <nimtz> i guess lxde stays loaded up
[07:35] <ianorlin> it does have more virtual desktops by default though
[09:21] <Krispis> good morning
[10:18] <JesseH> Whats the key combination to minimize a full screen app?
[10:18] <JesseH> Like a game for instance
[10:19] <JesseH> windows key doesnt work
[13:17] <lubuntu007> desktop pager is buggy
[13:17] <lubuntu007> on livecd is fine
[14:26] <h2mster> h
[14:26] <h2mster> i
[17:35] <javier555> hello :) can you help me with a dobut of lubuntu? sorry for my bad english
[17:36] <wxl> !ask | javier555
[17:37] <javier555> .docx files has the zip icon, do you know how can I set the document icon for that extension?
[17:40] <javier555> wxl can you help me please?