| belkinsa | Hey all, I heard that work got done today on the wiki. | 00:09 |
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| knome | oops :) | 00:09 |
| knome | hey belkinsa; slowly but steadily... | 00:10 |
| slickymaster | well, speaking for myself I'm ashamed to say that it wasn't that much | 00:10 |
| slickymaster | knome, good, you're here | 00:10 |
| belkinsa | That's good to hear. Slow and steady is what we need. | 00:11 |
| belkinsa | Even with a Jam. | 00:11 |
| knome | slickymaster, when am i not? | 00:11 |
| slickymaster | that's the million dollar question ;) | 00:12 |
| belkinsa | slickymaster: Does NewDocs have a IRC channel or is not needed? | 00:12 |
| slickymaster | regarding the links merge and particularly the categories issue | 00:12 |
| slickymaster | were you thinking just main categories or were you thinking on diving deep within those main categories | 00:13 |
| knome | whatever seems natural | 00:13 |
| slickymaster | no it doesn't belkinsa, mainly because the rest of the team isn't used, or ever has tried, irc | 00:14 |
| slickymaster | knome, ok, the way I see it, I'll have to force a little structure downwards in some of them | 00:15 |
| knome | that's fine | 00:15 |
| slickymaster | like in hardware for instance | 00:15 |
| slickymaster | ok | 00:15 |
| belkinsa | Would be a bad suggestion to suggest it? Or would the UF/mailing-list (of the team) be still fine? | 00:16 |
| knome | fortunately we're not working with printing presses and hard and close deadlines | 00:16 |
| knome | (i hate that) | 00:16 |
| slickymaster | Yes, today I had a major failure on a Oracle database and waste pretty much my day trying to solve it just to admit that I had to put into production the last available update | 00:17 |
| knome | heh. :) | 00:17 |
| knome | that's reversible | 00:17 |
| knome | "we need a new ad... the deadline was 24 hours ago, can you make it in the next 15 minutes?" | 00:18 |
| knome | that's not. | 00:18 |
| slickymaster | yeah, but there's always a terrible headache associated with | 00:18 |
| slickymaster | belkinsa, I think it would be a fabulous suggestion. The UF/mailing list drives me crazy, believe me :P | 00:19 |
| belkinsa | On it. | 00:20 |
| slickymaster | :) | 00:20 |
| slickymaster | you see why you are regarded as too valuable asset? | 00:20 |
| slickymaster | ;) | 00:20 |
| belkinsa | Yes, I do. | 00:20 |
| belkinsa | Sent and i hope that made sense | 00:25 |
| slickymaster | give a sec, | 00:26 |
| slickymaster | ah just in | 00:26 |
| slickymaster | replying | 00:26 |
| belkinsa | Thank you for your support on this suggestion. | 00:27 |
| slickymaster | belkinsa, thank you for that brilliant idea | 00:36 |
| belkinsa | Not a problem. | 00:51 |
| slickymaster | cy tomorrow guys and gals | 01:08 |
| belkinsa | See ya. | 01:17 |
| cprofitt | hello all | 02:07 |
| belkinsa | Evening to you. | 02:10 |
| cprofitt | how are you doing belkinsa ? | 02:11 |
| belkinsa | I'm tried and busy...working on a online final that is do at midnight today. Looking for SNPs in a gene. | 02:12 |
| cprofitt | sounds complicated, but interesting | 02:14 |
| belkinsa | Yeah, without the proper software, it's not fun. And the BLAST datebase program that's online doesn't have the freature that I need. It seems to only work on Windows. | 02:16 |
| cprofitt | that would make it difficult | 02:16 |
| belkinsa | Yeah, I had to get the SNPs that are present in our "class" population from a class mate. | 02:17 |
| belkinsa | But I know my winter break project will be. Learn how to use UGENE. | 02:17 |
| cprofitt | would have thought that such applications would not require WIndows | 02:17 |
| belkinsa | Yeah...I bet BLAST runs on Linux. | 02:18 |
| cprofitt | http://blast.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Blast.cgi | 02:18 |
| belkinsa | yeah, I know. | 02:18 |
| belkinsa | It seems to be missing the Query sequence part | 02:19 |
| belkinsa | http://blast.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Blast.cgi?PAGE_TYPE=BlastSearch&BLAST_SPEC=OGP__9606__9558 | 02:19 |
| cprofitt | http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://blast.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov | 02:19 |
| cprofitt | it is running Linux | 02:19 |
| belkinsa | Ha, was right but then again everything runs on Linux | 02:20 |
| belkinsa | ;) | 02:20 |
| cprofitt | ftp://ftp.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/blast/executables/blast+/LATEST/ | 02:21 |
| cprofitt | looks like you could run it in Linux, Windows, or OS X | 02:21 |
| cprofitt | no .deb but there is an RPM | 02:21 |
| belkinsa | Interesting. | 02:21 |
| belkinsa | And usefull | 02:21 |
| cprofitt | the tar.gz might work too | 02:22 |
| belkinsa | It could but that's something that I will do in the next few days. I need to finish this final. Thanks for your help. | 02:22 |
| cprofitt | http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK52640/ | 02:22 |
| cprofitt | yeah... best of luck | 02:23 |
| belkinsa | Thanks. | 02:23 |
| belkinsa | And sorry for having this in this channel, if it matters. | 02:23 |
| cprofitt | yeah, it was off-topic | 02:23 |
| cprofitt | my apology too | 02:23 |
| cprofitt | very interesting stuff though | 02:24 |
| belkinsa | Yeah. | 02:24 |
| cprofitt | back to looking at the wiki | 02:24 |
| belkinsa | Have fun. ;) | 02:24 |
| cprofitt | hey knome | 03:07 |
| cprofitt | hey philipballew | 03:52 |
| philipballew | cprofitt, hey cprofitt . How is life these days? | 03:52 |
| cprofitt | good, good... you? | 03:52 |
| philipballew | cprofitt, No complaints. just enjoying life in San Diego. How's New York treating you? | 03:53 |
| cprofitt | cold | 04:09 |
| philipballew | cprofitt, yeah, it hit 50 here today so I had to put a jacket on... | 04:15 |
| philipballew | coldest it has been in a while! | 04:15 |
| philipballew | How is the Linux world treating you. Up to anything fun? | 04:16 |
| cprofitt | the world is treating me ok... including the Linux world | 04:36 |
| cprofitt | night all | 04:40 |
| knome | cprofitt, hey :) that was a bit late for me, and this is a bit late for you :) | 08:39 |
| slickymaster | knome: ping | 11:29 |
| slickymaster | knome: do you mind terribly if I make a change in the wording on the middle box of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ | 11:30 |
| knome | slickymaster, not at all | 11:30 |
| slickymaster | knome: thing is that presently the Most popular post boxes refers to posts rather than pages | 11:31 |
| slickymaster | I think the proper term should be "pages"(!) Posts are what we do in forums and on blogs. Pages are what we have in wikis | 11:31 |
| slickymaster | I just wnat to change from Most popular post to most popular pages in the box tittle | 11:32 |
| slickymaster | do I have your ok? | 11:32 |
| slickymaster | knome: ^^ | 11:33 |
| slickymaster | knome: went ahead and proceeded with the change in the wording | 11:38 |
| slickymaster | knome: about the merging of the links in those four pages. In the the cases that two sub-pages are presented don't you think I can go ahead and just insert the main page in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/slickymaster/LinksMergeSandbox to later we work on? | 12:07 |
| slickymaster | knome: here's an example, we have http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-lpic1-v3-103-1/index.html and http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-lpic1-v3-103-3/index.html | 12:08 |
| slickymaster | knome: I was thinking of just adding http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/ to the collection of links I'm building. what do you think? | 12:09 |
| slickymaster | knome: and there's even a third sub-page http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-bash/index.html | 12:12 |
| cprofitt | knome: hello | 12:38 |
| cprofitt | hey slickymaster | 12:38 |
| slickymaster | morning cprofitt | 12:39 |
| knome | slickymaster, yes yes ;) | 16:59 |
| knome | slickymaster, yes, sounds fair to consider linking only the "top" page | 17:00 |
| slickymaster | knome: it's a hell of a task I have to tell you :) | 17:00 |
| knome | yep. | 17:01 |
| slickymaster | my eyes are going ballistic | 17:01 |
| knome | :) | 17:02 |
| knome | i guess we could pick one or two of the CLI companions/cheat sheets | 17:05 |
| slickymaster | knome: I think you should do the picking after I've finished (there's only two pages left for me to do, one of them being the signpost, which I consider not so complicated) | 17:12 |
| slickymaster | knome: then we'll be in a better position to make any kind of judgment calls on what to leave, based on redundancy acuracy of content, etc | 17:13 |
| slickymaster | knome: what do you think? | 17:13 |
| knome | have you done working with LinksMergeSandbox for now? | 17:20 |
| slickymaster | knome: what do you mean exactly? | 17:27 |
| knome | can i poke around or do you want to keep the edit locks yourself? ;) | 17:27 |
| slickymaster | knome: of course you can the edit might be locked because I'm currently working on it | 17:28 |
| knome | so you haven't done working ;) | 17:28 |
| knome | i'll let you continue then, i'll do other things meanwhile | 17:28 |
| knome | bbl | 17:29 |
| slickymaster | knome: ok | 17:29 |
| slickymaster | we'll talk later | 17:29 |
| slickymaster | knome: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommandLineResources and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ExternalGuides are done with, only remaining https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Links and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Signpost to be worked | 18:16 |
| slickymaster | so feel free to poke around | 18:16 |
| knome | aahh, you did it like that. | 18:22 |
| knome | clever. | 18:22 |
| cprofitt | thanks slickymaster | 18:23 |
| cprofitt | knome: I thik I deleted about 15 pages yesterday | 18:23 |
| slickymaster | cprofitt: np | 18:23 |
| knome | cprofitt, i saw :) | 18:23 |
| slickymaster | knome: like how? | 18:23 |
| knome | slickymaster, you separated them in the categories straight | 18:24 |
| knome | that's cool, np | 18:24 |
| slickymaster | knome: yeah, we had agree on that, haven't we? | 18:24 |
| slickymaster | agreed | 18:24 |
| knome | i wouuld have done that in a different way, but that's cool as well | 18:25 |
| knome | whatever suits you :) | 18:25 |
| slickymaster | knome: I'm all hears to suggestions | 18:25 |
| slickymaster | ;) | 18:25 |
| knome | slickymaster, well you did it already | 18:26 |
| knome | i would have simply: | 18:26 |
| knome | copy all pages and make a LOOOONG page with all the links | 18:26 |
| knome | then categorise | 18:26 |
| knome | you did it page by page, directly separating them | 18:26 |
| knome | which le(a)d(s) to the same outcome | 18:26 |
| slickymaster | knome: yes, pretty much | 18:27 |
| slickymaster | knome: one thing though, I've just checked a few of the target links | 18:27 |
| knome | that's fine | 18:28 |
| knome | i'm actually just checking them | 18:28 |
| slickymaster | so I'm not sure if same of them still live or even if they still to the intended page | 18:28 |
| knome | and seeing how new they are | 18:28 |
| knome | etc | 18:28 |
| slickymaster | knome: what I spoke about this morning | 18:28 |
| cprofitt | you can always undelete a deleted page | 18:28 |
| slickymaster | yeah | 18:28 |
| cprofitt | using the AbandonedPages helps too -- you can see if a page is not linked before merging / editing | 18:29 |
| cprofitt | I have not found a way to report on linkes going to a particular page though | 18:29 |
| belkinsa | Wait, you can undelete a page? | 18:31 |
| cprofitt | yes | 18:31 |
| belkinsa | Is there a time limit to how long you have? | 18:31 |
| cprofitt | not that I am aware of | 18:31 |
| belkinsa | Okay. | 18:32 |
| cprofitt | it works the same way reverting does | 18:32 |
| belkinsa | I see. | 18:32 |
| slickymaster | belkinsa, they're on a server so it's assumable they are nor really deleted | 18:32 |
| knome | cprofitt, click the page title | 18:32 |
| belkinsa | Gotcha. And that's a good thing. Undeletable pages. | 18:33 |
| belkinsa | I mean, you know what a meant there. | 18:33 |
| cprofitt | knome: ? | 18:33 |
| knome | cprofitt, go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NewDocs | 18:34 |
| knome | cprofitt, click the title "NewDocs" | 18:34 |
| cprofitt | belkinsa: you just click on info an dyou see the previous versions | 18:34 |
| knome | cprofitt, be shown a list with pages that link to NewDocs | 18:34 |
| cprofitt | knome: cool. | 18:34 |
| cprofitt | that is good to know | 18:34 |
| knome | yep | 18:34 |
| belkinsa | Yeah, I know about the info page. | 18:34 |
| cprofitt | that makes this much easier. | 18:34 |
| knome | and now check the url | 18:34 |
| belkinsa | Had to do it yesterday | 18:35 |
| cprofitt | belkinsa: when you delete a page it still has the information... the lates version shows a size of 0 | 18:35 |
| knome | cprofitt, i guess you can check any pagename, even if the page didn't exist | 18:35 |
| cprofitt | knome: see the url... full search action | 18:35 |
| knome | just replace the value GET parameter | 18:35 |
| cprofitt | yep, I would guess | 18:35 |
| slickymaster | wow knome, didn't knew about that one. That's pretty cool | 18:35 |
| belkinsa | Thank you. Maybe one day, I will apply be a wiki admin. | 18:36 |
| cprofitt | belkinsa: I am an admin and I still don't know a great many of these things | 18:37 |
| cprofitt | it is more about being careful than knowing stuff | 18:37 |
| slickymaster | leaving and learning :) | 18:37 |
| slickymaster | *living | 18:38 |
| belkinsa | Yup | 18:38 |
| * slickymaster needs to refresh his eyes | 18:38 | |
| belkinsa | Same. | 18:39 |
| belkinsa | See ya all around | 18:39 |
| cprofitt | interesting... I click on the title on the wiki.ubuntu.com and I do not get the search | 18:39 |
| knome | cprofitt, it's not enabled there | 18:40 |
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| knome | at least in the same way... | 18:40 |
| * cprofitt nods | 18:40 | |
| cprofitt | suspected as much | 18:40 |
| cprofitt | with all this wiki activity I took the time to update my personal wiki | 18:47 |
| knome | :) | 18:47 |
| cprofitt | didn't want people to find it and see that it was out of date. | 18:47 |
| slickymaster | you could risk it to be deleted by knome | 18:48 |
| knome | ;) | 18:48 |
| knome | not if it's in wiki.ubuntu.com | 18:48 |
| knome | slickymaster, i updated the page | 18:48 |
| slickymaster | yeah just kidding | 18:48 |
| slickymaster | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/slickymaster/LinksMergeSandbox? | 18:49 |
| knome | i'm not kidding... it might get deleted if it's a peronal page in help.ubuntu.com | 18:49 |
| knome | slickymaster, yep | 18:49 |
| slickymaster | TBO, I'm not being able to see your changes. What were they? | 18:50 |
| knome | ctrl+shift+R | 18:50 |
| knome | i added comments after the links | 18:50 |
| knome | comments that should be visible in the page | 18:50 |
| cprofitt | I deleted several personal pages on help.ubuntu.com/community | 18:50 |
| knome | cprofitt, i deleted quite a lot... | 18:50 |
| slickymaster | Yeah, see them now | 18:50 |
| knome | hoping that will help us decide what to keep | 18:51 |
| slickymaster | knome: how did you get that info? from where? | 18:52 |
| knome | i went to the page and... looked | 18:52 |
| slickymaster | damn, you do work fast ;) | 18:52 |
| knome | ;) | 18:53 |
| knome | i'm thinking if we really need man-like stuff? | 18:53 |
| knome | i mean, why not just link to man? | 18:53 |
| knome | or create a page that tells one how to use man | 18:53 |
| knome | we could keep one of the two wallpapers/cheat sheets | 18:53 |
| knome | preferably the first one, that looks better | 18:53 |
| slickymaster | agree, and there are several similar situations | 18:54 |
| knome | yep | 18:54 |
| knome | i mean... bleh, man-like stuff never was really helpdul | 18:54 |
| knome | helpful | 18:54 |
| slickymaster | there are a lot of links to CLI usage, and they basically end up with the same type of content | 18:54 |
| knome | yep | 18:55 |
| knome | there was one that looked nice | 18:55 |
| knome | but i forgot which it was | 18:55 |
| knome | i'll remember by the url though | 18:55 |
| knome | i'll continue with my digging, bbiab | 18:55 |
| slickymaster | either that or we'll have to check one by one | 18:55 |
| slickymaster | :P | 18:55 |
| slickymaster | knome, cprofitt, well, gotta run for now. Have to pick up my kid at school. Will return after dinner | 18:56 |
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| slickymaster | night all | 21:38 |
| belkinsa | See ya | 21:38 |
| slickymaster | hi, belkinsa | 21:39 |
| belkinsa | Hey there. | 21:39 |
| slickymaster | belkinsa, what do you meant by setting up the OP stuff in the newdocs mailing? | 21:40 |
| belkinsa | OP =operators. But was referring to when the main one is gone in case the channel picks up spam or something. | 21:41 |
| slickymaster | yeah, I know what OP stands for | 21:42 |
| slickymaster | but that's a good question and one I don't have answer for | 21:42 |
| belkinsa | But if you look at this channel, there is no ChanSev or an OP around | 21:43 |
| belkinsa | ChanServ* | 21:43 |
| slickymaster | !ChanServ | 21:43 |
| ubot2 | Factoid 'ChanServ' not found | 21:43 |
| slickymaster | yeah, apparently not | 21:44 |
| belkinsa | Anyways...I created the room #newdocs if you don't mind. | 21:45 |
| slickymaster | I'll discuss it with Unit123 or lderan in #xubunto-off | 21:45 |
| slickymaster | of course not | 21:45 |
| slickymaster | do you know how to set up the public logs for it? | 21:45 |
| belkinsa | Unit123 (if he is Unit192) would know for sure | 21:45 |
| belkinsa | I don't | 21:45 |
| belkinsa | 193* | 21:46 |
| slickymaster | it's Unit193 | 21:46 |
| slickymaster | yeah, that one | 21:46 |
| belkinsa | Yeah, he should know. And I think he lives near me. | 21:46 |
| slickymaster | I'll solve it with him | 21:47 |
| slickymaster | Ohio? | 21:47 |
| belkinsa | Yup. | 21:47 |
| belkinsa | I think he lives north west of me. | 21:47 |
| slickymaster | I image it's a big state | 21:47 |
| belkinsa | It's medium and we are scattered around it | 21:47 |
| belkinsa | As the LoCo. | 21:48 |
| belkinsa | Er, off-topic again. | 21:48 |
| slickymaster | :) | 21:48 |
| belkinsa | I won't mind if we talk in #newdocs | 21:48 |
| slickymaster | belkinsa, did you saw I said about the logs in #newdocs? | 22:19 |
| belkinsa | Yes | 22:19 |
| slickymaster | did you locked the channel? | 22:19 |
| belkinsa | Yeah | 22:19 |
| slickymaster | LOL | 22:20 |
| slickymaster | we'll get the hang of it | 22:21 |
| belkinsa | Yeah | 22:21 |
| belkinsa | I will | 22:21 |
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