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[04:40] <Logan_> Noskcaj: Are you sure the extensions being gone is a nonissue for your latest gthumb upload?
[04:51] <Logan_> I'm going to sync, but please make sure you look into that...
[04:54] <Noskcaj> Logan_, I'm working on fixing it, but having plenty of time to test the new version is more important
[04:56] <Logan_> Noskcaj: I think making sure there aren't any regressions before uploading is more important... But okay.
[04:59] <Noskcaj> If i new how to stop it, i would have. I'll try and contact upstream when school finishes for the year (next week) because it's probably a dependency issue
[07:59] <dholbach> good morning
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[20:34] <aeoril> I am new to MOTU.  I found this nice website:  http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/ Is that a good place to start?
[20:36] <aeoril> Also, I went from there to here:  http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/getting-set-up.html and am at section 2.1: Install Basic Packaging Software.  However, I need to know which version of Ubuntu to install first to do packaging work for the latest development version (I am a developer and know how to code, and have had some previous experience with Ubuntu packaging, but a long time ago)
[20:38] <aeoril> Also, it mentions using fakeroot or testdrive to make sure you use the latest Ubuntu to develop on - can I use a virtual machine instead?
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[20:42] <aeoril> philipballew hello!
[20:42] <aeoril> Unit193 hello!
[20:43] <Unit193> Howdy.
[20:43] <aeoril> Unit193 how goes it
[20:43] <aeoril> ?
[20:43] <aeoril> Unit193 do you know who I am?
[20:44] <Unit193> Yep.  And the normal method is chroots, not testdrive (vm thingy)
[20:45] <aeoril> Unit193 which version of Ubuntu should I install to MOTU on?
[20:45] <philipballew> aeoril, hello there.
[20:46] <aeoril> philipballew remember me from UBT?
[20:46] <Unit193> aeoril: I'm on saucy, with Saucy, testing, unstable, and trusty chroots.
[20:47] <Unit193> (Think precise {LTS} too.)
[20:47] <philipballew> aeoril, Yes I do. I hope all is well.
[20:47] <philipballew> Where in the world are you currently?
[20:47] <aeoril> philipballew yes, very well thanks - Oklahoma
[20:47] <aeoril> (USA)
[20:47] <philipballew> aeoril, oh cool. I have never been there!
[20:48] <aeoril> Unit193 what do you mean "with Saucy, testing, unstable, trusty chroots?"
[20:48] <aeoril> philipballew you're not missing much :)
[20:48] <philipballew> aeoril, haha, If you find yourself in San Diego, stop by and say hello.
[20:48] <Unit193> !pbuilder
[20:48] <Unit193> !sbuild
[20:48] <ubottu> pbuilder is a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[20:48] <ubottu> sbuild is a system to easily build packages in a clean schroot environment.  To get started with SBuild, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SbuildLVMHowto
[20:49] <aeoril> philipballew sure thing!
[20:50] <aeoril> Unit193 is pbuilder easier than sbuild?
[20:52] <Unit193> I use pbuilder.  There's benefits and disadvantages of both, really.
[20:53] <aeoril> Unit193 I am downloading saucy right now.  I want to run Ubuntu in a Windows virtual machine - will that be problematic for development?
[20:53] <aeoril> (if you know)
[20:54] <aeoril> If the Windows VM is not a good idea, I can fire up an older PC to run it
[20:56] <aeoril> philipballew are you still in school at la jolla, or am I remembering incorrectly?
[20:56] <philipballew> aeoril, Yes, just south in an area called Point Loma.
[20:56] <aeoril> philipballew yes, I can picture it in my mind (from the picture on the website I saw years ago)
[20:57] <aeoril> philipballew how is school going?  You got your PhD yet?
[20:57] <philipballew> aeoril, nope! Just getting my undergrad!
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[22:07] <aeoril> philipballew what grade are you in now?