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toddcyes it is here19:00
toddcyes I can see you19:01
toddcand hear you :)19:01
schwejkLoud and clear19:01
PopcornMakerAm i the only one who can't start the stream?19:03
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jalcineo_O19:04
PopcornMakerThere!19:04
joseQUESTION: Do you like cheese?19:04
PopcornMakerI see you19:04
snwhshould be changed to "Bacon Question Time"19:05
PopcornMakerand hear you19:05
PopcornMakerA little lag19:05
richrbooQUESTION exciting news Ubuntu Touch for phones, Cnet says out in 2014, are you able to say which quarter in 2014?19:05
snwhQUESTION: is there a correlation between the length of Mark Shuttleworth's beard and the success of Ubuntu Touch? ;)19:05
beardofomensQUESTION: you cant say who the partner is but can you say which country will the new phone be available in? will it be more than one country? europe or us or other?19:06
josesnwh: we can change it to 'Bacon Question Time', I'll check with the team :P19:07
snwhjose, that was a joke :P19:07
josesounds cool, though19:07
snwhjose, if jono likes it go for it19:08
PopcornMakerQUESTION: Do you know when Ubuntu Touch will be available on phones in europe?19:08
PopcornMakerQUESTION: And what happend with the LED Beltbuckle??19:08
jalcineQUESTION: Is dual-booting considered for the second or third iteration (first would be awesome, but not required for a post-MVP product)19:11
jalcineQUESTION: Would switching shells (from Unity to another mobile-capable shell like Plasma Active) be provided as an available option?19:11
PopcornMakeri saw it on facebook19:12
apetrescWhere do we submit questions? Sorry, I missed it :(19:17
beardofomensapetresc: just type QUESTION and your question19:17
jalcineapetresc: just prefix it with QUESTION:19:17
jalcinelol everyone's helping19:17
beardofomensQUESTION is unity 8 really not apearing on my desktop until 14.10?19:18
jalcineQUESTION: Is Ubuntu planning to further/start Steam integration to the Ubuntu App Store?19:19
apetrescQUESTION: Is there going to be any more hardware integration partners (like with Dell back in the day) for the desktop, or is all focus in Canonical on mobile hardware nowadays?19:21
radiostormQUESTION: is Canonical going to exhibit at CES in 2014?19:22
apetrescOooh good one radiostorm :)19:22
LevanQUESTION will ubuntu 14.04 come with software center or the dash will be used for software installation, removal ??19:22
radiostormthanks!19:23
snwhQUESTION: turkey for Christmas dinner?19:23
flask_QUESTION: Jono, big news regarding a new phone, care to provide some updates?19:24
mhall119o/19:24
mhall119hello19:24
jalcineLevan: it'd definitely be a mixture of both19:24
jalcinejono: try hard refreshing the page19:25
Levanjalcine: hope ubuntu team will make it work because so far I am a bit skeptical19:26
Karunamhall119: o/ glad to see you once again . Bravo .19:26
jalcineit's not only the team but the community working to improve it as well19:26
Levanjalcine: that is true :)19:26
ScharelQUESTION: is there a plan to expand the convergence to the tv (e.g. connect phone/tablet/laptop via HDMI to a tv and use Ubuntu for tv)19:27
mhall119Scharel: that is the long-term plan yes, but there's no timeframe yet on when TV work will pick up again19:27
KarunaWhy is Canonical so " Anti - leweb.co " . I see no presence at this immense and disruptive platform which is live all this week ? rRef: http://live.leweb.co19:28
mhall119that said, one community guy is already re-building the TV UI on Unity 8 on his phone19:28
jalcinemhall119: would it open to public dev or no?19:28
jalcineahhh19:28
jalcineyou already answered it19:28
mhall119jalcine: yes, all open19:28
flask_QUESTION: any plan to phase out gnome aplications as the default ones?19:28
mhall119jalcine: Canonical is here19:28
mhall119there19:28
* mhall119 isn't there, but somebody is19:29
who_megood, this is the way mint-menu of old allowed ppl to install stuff, search and run/install19:29
beardofomensKaruna: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57615107-94/ubuntu-touch-os-wins-its-first-smartphone-partner/ announced at le web19:29
richrbooQUESTION:  will Ubuntu Phone with any hardware partner, be open? For example will you be able to run a terminal? Install python? Root etc? Or will it be locked down to Ubuntu/hardware partners requirements?19:30
who_meQUESTION: do you plan to add a more UI centric management of ppas in future ubuntu releases?19:31
mhall119richrboo: we can't force OEMs to keep it open, but that would be our preference for sure19:31
mhall119who_me: PPAs are really meant for developers, not consumers19:32
KarunaQuestion : Jono : Veno's or beechams ? both's cool .19:32
who_memhall119: well, some software will have newer/better versions in PPAs as the distro ages... esp LTS releases19:33
* snwh has a long-winded question19:33
mhall119who_me: that's where click packaging comes it, apps will be able to update any time with ease19:33
who_me mhall119 : will click packages work for software such as openshot (video editor)? I understand they were meant for new/modern ubuntu SDK dependent apps19:34
mhall119who_me: click packages don't fundamentally depend on the SDK19:35
snwhQUESTION: the design process of Unity 8/Ubuntu Touch (not applications for platform but the platform itself) is not as open as the design processes of other environments, such as GNOME. It seems nearly all of the design is done in-house at Canonical. As a community designer, this is rather disappointing; it seems that while Canonical is ready to embrace developers to the Ubuntu Touch platform they are less open to design input from the community. Co19:35
snwhuld you lend some thoughts to this?19:35
mhall119any app can be a click package19:35
mhall119even openshot19:35
snwhlol, too long for IRC19:35
mhall119it might need to bundle more dependencies in the click package than it does in the .deb, but it would make it easier for them to distribute new releases without worrying about distro compatibility19:36
jalcinethere's questions here lol19:36
LevanQUESTION, about cellphone hardware partners,  are there good news for this ?? will we get a Ubuntu Touch cellphone 2014 ??19:37
who_memhall119, jono thanks for explaining this :)19:37
mhall119who_me: happy to :)19:37
halfmastI see you19:37
jalcineQUESTION: What are some considerations in terms of accessories for Unity 8 (i.e: Fitbit, BLE, NFC, etc)19:37
mhall119jalcine: there's a FitBit app, which also integrates with the welcome screen's usermetrics19:37
pulu90QUESTION: Any news about other supported devices for touch. Nexus 4 is going to be hard to come by sooner or later.19:38
popeypulu90: should add nexus 5 by mid january - once we migrate the drivers to Android 4.419:39
pulu90\o/ awesome19:39
mhall119popey: we have all the necessary drivers for the N5?19:39
jalcineI have a Nexus 4 here but the screen's cracked so it's of no real use unless I can emulate touch gestures haha19:39
who_meQUESTION: have you considered nemo to replace nautilus ?19:40
popeymhall119: ask ricardo - he said the above earlier ☻19:40
mhall119cool, thanks popey19:40
jalcinemhall119: AOSP released all of the necessary drivers19:40
mhall119who_me: the Ubuntu SDK filemanager-app is based on Nemo19:40
CheeseBurgWhen did we start doing these again?19:40
popeyJono doesn't like taking medicine, but he takes a medicinal Jägermeister now and then.19:41
who_memhall119: that's very nice :)19:42
jalcineCheeseBurg: around 19:00 UTC ;p19:42
CheeseBurgjalcine: What is that? 2pm est?19:43
mhall119yeah19:43
jalcineyup19:43
jalcinemy tz too19:43
Levanyay19:44
popeyWorth noting that with many of the core apps we had direct access between canonical design and core apps developers.19:44
popeyand input from community designers - heavily - on that19:44
toddcplay19:45
CheeseBurgQUESTION: Will we see more collaboration between laptop makers like with Asus? And are they still doing that deal?19:46
apetrescQUESTION: Can you sure any metrics/stats on how Ubuntu is doing as a cloud platform? For instance, how well are the Ubuntu AMIs doing on AWS, and is that generating any revenue for you guys?19:46
apetrescWhoops, yeah, I meant *share19:48
LevanQUESTION: I know I asked you this question and the answer was that smartscope search would become more relevant when smartscope servers would be Enabled. so are the smart scope servers Enabled ??19:48
who_meQUESTION: What web-cam do you use ? :) Brand and model pls19:48
mhall119Levan: they are in 13.10 and beyond19:48
LevanQUESTION: do you think the day will come when we will get MS office on ubuntu ??19:49
CheeseBurgQUESTION: When will JuJu be ready for simple home servers? I would love the idea of installing a server with JuJu as a GUI.19:49
halfmastQuestion: How is the new icon set coming along? Will It be ready for 14.04?19:49
radiostormQUESTION: how often do you talk to mark shuttleworth?19:50
CheeseBurgQUESTION: How can I get your job?19:50
popeyCheeseBurg: grow a silly beard and wear sandles. The rest is easy.19:50
mhall119lol19:50
mhall119+119:50
toddcQuestion CES using LoCo members to staff/help?19:50
CheeseBurgpopey: The silly beard will be the challenge19:50
popeyah, shame19:50
who_meQUESTION: Will there be some work done to integrate Docker with Ubuntu?19:51
popeythats the thing that usually requires the least effort19:51
LevanQUESTION: will the AMD's new api Mantle will benefit linux ??19:51
spiritssightQUESTION: How is accessiblility coming along for the Ubunto Touch (phones)?19:51
CheeseBurgLevan: Does Jono even know what mantle is?19:51
mhall119Mantle might make more of a difference if more than AMD supported it19:51
mhall119otherwise you end up writing device-specific code :(19:52
LevanCheeseBurg he told us we can ask him any thing19:52
CheeseBurgLevan: True19:52
Levan:D19:52
KarunaQuestion: As you are well aware Madibba from South Africa belongs to many hastags on twitter at the moment . As Ubuntu Community Manager -- do yo have `warming heart-felt footnote to add to everyone's comments on discourse-ubuntu-com ?? Be unreserved , please.19:53
KarunaQUestion continue'd |   Is there .... , for example this year: you successfully cross-questioned Mr R.M.Stallman with your own brilliant Question - Now , Is there something you'd like to pose to the followers of Mandela , with respect ?19:53
CheeseBurgQUESTION: With linux on the desktop moving forward more and more each year, do you personally look at innovation that other projects do? Does it motivate or drive anything in Ubuntu or Canonical?19:53
PopcornMakerCome on people! Dubble the flavor!19:54
Levani know Jono told me that smart scope is getting better and better but in reality it is stupid as bricks, since I installed 13.10 I am getting same useless results19:55
CheeseBurgLevan: It gets better for me19:56
who_meLevan: :D19:56
KarunaQuestion: I did pose a question 4 mins ago ?19:57
LevanCheeseBurg really ? since the first day i got 13.10 I am getting one shirtless dudes picture for most of my searches :D19:57
Levanmy ubuntu is stupid :(19:57
LevanQuestion Will you play ???19:57
micah2Levan: What are you searching for?19:58
CheeseBurgLevan: Lol what are you searching. I use it mostly for weather or simple searches.19:58
PopcornMakerQUESTION: When will i be able to install Ubuntu Touch via Windows? When i look at the website, it only gives a tutorial for ubuntu.19:58
CheeseBurgQUESTION: So is this Q&A a thing again?19:58
CheeseBurgQUESTION: What about weekly updates?19:59
LevanCheeseBurg I had online search disabled and now I can not enable it :D19:59
mhall119you can ask any further Ubuntu Touch questions in #ubuntu-touch19:59
CheeseBurgLevan: Weird. Never had that issue19:59
mhall119and any further Unity 8 questions in #ubuntu-unity19:59
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Babo_ghello20:21
Babo_gwhat time start the Q+A every weeks?20:21
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