[13:28] <xnox> how can I copy src+binaries from archive to a ppa?
[13:28] <xnox> ah -b.
[14:19] <shadeslayer> could someone move libkscreen and kscreen out of saucy-proposed?
[14:19] <shadeslayer> the SRU has been verified as working
[15:56]  * stgraber does some SRU work
[15:58] <Riddell> stgraber: KDE SC 4.11.3 can all be let in
[15:58] <Riddell> dunno why that only got half in
[16:02] <stgraber> Riddell: yeah, I'm looking into that one now (just had to re-read the MRE to refresh my memory)
[16:07] <cjwatson> stgraber: urgh, if you're going to let partman-{btrfs,ext3} in then we have to promote partman-basicfilesystems a bit early as well
[16:07] <cjwatson> oh, hey, look at that, it's not early for that any more
[16:08] <stgraber> cjwatson: hmm, I thought I released partman-basicfilesystems at the same time too... let me check what happened there...
[16:08] <stgraber> bleh, typo in my sru-release...
[16:09] <stgraber> there, done again with basicfilesystems written properly this time around...
[16:24] <stgraber> Riddell: I think I got them all
[16:24] <Riddell> got to catch them all, it's like pokemon
[16:25] <stgraber> :)
[16:39] <stgraber> bdrung_: can you add some testing instructions to bug 1258639?
[16:40] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1258639 in update-manager (Ubuntu Quantal) "need to support upgrades from 12.10 to 13.10" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1258639
[16:40] <stgraber> bdrung_: sorry, meant bdmurray
[16:52] <stgraber> bdmurray: can you add some testing instructions to bug 1258639?
[16:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1258639 in update-manager (Ubuntu Quantal) "need to support upgrades from 12.10 to 13.10" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1258639
[16:58] <bdmurray> stgraber: done
[16:58] <stgraber> bdmurray: thanks
[19:43] <elfy> got an issue with xubuntu dailies - we're now booting after the 'lightdm' issue - but we seem to have slipped back to menu layout from at least 2 releases ago - and the default language is bangla it appears
[19:44] <elfy> any ideas what the language issue should be reported against - I know the menu's is -default-settings
[19:49] <elfy> had to supply username and 'password' to get into live session as well
[19:51] <cjwatson> which image URL?  I can take a look although probably tomorrow not today
[19:52] <elfy> cjwatson: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/20131210/trusty-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:52] <elfy> apparently we've got a merge proposal waiting which should do the username
[19:52] <cjwatson> syncing, hopefully it'll be there for me tomorrow morning
[19:53] <elfy> but the language one I'm not sure which package to file it against
[19:53] <cjwatson> I would have thought the default language was more likely to be somewhere in the installer toolchain than in -default-settings
[19:53] <cjwatson> but I won't really be able to tell you until I can see it
[19:53] <elfy> k
[19:53] <cjwatson> or if you have a screenshot
[19:54] <elfy> cjwatson: of which issue :)
[19:54] <elfy> got it available in a vm at the moment
[19:55] <cjwatson> of the issue you're asking for help filing ...
[19:55] <cjwatson> i.e. the language one
[19:59] <elfy> ok
[20:02] <elfy> cjwatson: http://imagebin.org/281716
[20:03] <cyphermox> cjwatson: is there a tool used by archive admins to check copyright besides licensecheck?
[20:25] <elfy> cjwatson: nvm - sorted it all now - or at least know what's happening, it's defaulting to xfce rather than xubuntu - explains a few issues
[20:31] <TheDrums> elfy: And that explains the Language as well?
[20:32] <elfy> I thought you said it did
[21:06] <cjwatson> cyphermox: licensecheck is it AFAIK
[21:09] <cyphermox> mmkay
[21:09] <cyphermox> I was in the hope there was some other magic trick
[21:10] <cyphermox> licensecheck is not *bad*, but still means a lot of manual intervention for this project I'm trying to review with robru
[21:10] <cyphermox> thanks!
[21:23] <infinity> cyphermox: licensecheck is a good first pass and then, yes, some manual poking.
[21:24] <cyphermox> infinity: then I just won't ruin the surprise for you :)
[21:25] <infinity> cyphermox: My favourite kind of NEW processing is "oh, good, it was already done by the Debian ftpmasters and then synced to Ubuntu, so I don't have to re-check". :P
[21:25] <infinity> *hint, hint*
[21:25] <cyphermox> haaha
[21:25] <cyphermox> maybe we'll keep that in mind
[21:26] <cyphermox> I don't know how much other cordova stuff has gone into debian yet
[21:33] <robru> infinity, unfortunately this package is just tons of ubuntu-specific stuff and could never be accepted by debian.
[21:34] <robru> infinity, like, it's specifically a tool for creating apps that can only run on the ubuntu phone
[21:34] <cyphermox> robru: how is it ubuntu-specific ?
[21:35] <robru> cyphermox, in the sense that it integrates tightly with the ubuntu SDK?
[21:37] <cyphermox> oh, it does?
[21:38] <cyphermox> I thought it was more standalone and just used by it
[21:39] <robru> cyphermox, well, I'm not super familiar with it, but it's specifically for phones. it's not like debian people are going to want this so they can run cordova apps on their servers.
[21:40] <infinity> I think, eventually, it would be great to see all our phone stuff genericised and in Debian, but I'd agree that today isn't that day.
[21:55] <cyphermox> robru: btw, I just noticed another piece with a license that may or may not be distributable, trying to check
[22:00] <cyphermox> robru: yeah, so it's not a clear-cut issue; see http://ftp-master.metadata.debian.org/changelogs/main/n/npm/unstable_changelog   and http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2012/03/msg00021.html
[22:00] <cyphermox> npm has needed some (although minimal) changes to land in debian.
[22:01] <robru> cyphermox, yeah, I'm a bit confused as to why this package is installing npm into itself, maybe we could rip that out if possible. not sure
[22:02] <cyphermox> yeah, that's possibly what I'd recommend
[22:02] <cyphermox> (removing it)
[22:02] <robru> cyphermox, ok, still working on the deduplication
[22:02] <cyphermox> we'd already have it in distro anyway, it's not optimal, but then npm is full of contradictions w/r/t the license, if I strictly read the files I have
[22:06] <robru> cyphermox, yeah
[22:06] <robru> cyphermox, ok, just got this script to the point where it can create the flattened, versioned collection of nodules. now I just have to fill in the symlinks. but I really need to eat first, brb ;-)