[00:43] <daftykins> anyone else get booted just then 0o
[00:51] <AlanBell> ali1234: I fixed it by writing a new partition table with the right sizes, basically dividing stuff by 8 \o/
[00:51] <ali1234> yeah
[00:51] <ali1234> but will it still work if you take it out of the enclosure?
[00:51] <ali1234> maybe...
[00:51] <AlanBell> dunno, it is staying in the enclosure now
[00:52] <AlanBell> I may have chopped off 7/8ths of a sector from the end of one partition
[00:53] <ali1234> well it should not matter
[00:53] <AlanBell> yeah, I think that should be fine
[00:53] <AlanBell> it was nowhere near full
[00:53] <ali1234> the filesystem should tell you immediately if the partition is the wrong size
[00:54] <ali1234> it writes stuff near the end
[00:54] <ali1234> well, depending on type i suppose
[00:54] <AlanBell> I will do an fsck on it
[00:57] <AlanBell> all good apparently
[06:50] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:18] <Myrtti> meh
[07:19] <jussi> cccc...cold
[07:20] <jussi> I just changed my home office to a bigger room, what was our bedroom. however, forgot to turn the heating up in here (we like to sleep in a cooler room), and its COLD.
[07:21] <jussi> come little heaters, warm me up :D
[07:21] <Myrtti> "awwww"
[07:21] <MooDoo> yay cold.
[07:22] <jussi> its nice to have a bigger office though :=)
[07:23] <MooDoo> I bet :) I would love an office instead of using the kitchen table lol
[07:24] <Myrtti> I would love us to have a better door bell so I could actually work in the office set up in the smallest bed room we have
[07:24] <Myrtti> if I go there now I won't hear the postie bringing Christmas presents
[07:26] <MartijnVdS> Myrtti: they have those "remote" doorbells, that work with RF over >100m
[07:26] <MartijnVdS> http://www.amazon.co.uk/tag/wireless%20doorbell/products
[07:34] <jussi> MooDoo: working at home you must have a proper home office imho.
[07:34] <MooDoo> jussi: agreed :)
[07:34] <jussi> and yay, date for my surgery is set.
[07:35] <jussi> finally I'll be able to not be chronically ill, and Ill be able to breathe again! (I am having my tonsils/adenoids removed)
[07:37] <MooDoo> jussi: \o.
[07:38] <MooDoo> \o/ even
[07:41] <mapps> morning
[07:41] <mapps> not so cold today
[07:42] <MooDoo> I don't mind the cold, I ride a motor bike so am quite used to it.
[07:42] <mapps> i walk everywhere:D dont have a car
[07:42] <MartijnVdS> MooDoo: because riding motor bikes is so cool?
[07:42] <mapps> no way id ride a motorbike..way too dangerous for my liking
[07:42] <MartijnVdS> ;)
[07:42] <mapps> MartijnVdS,  you cycle?
[07:43] <mapps> :D
[07:43] <MooDoo> MartijnVdS: no coz it gets me used to the cold :)
[07:43] <MartijnVdS> mapps: only bicycle ;)
[07:43] <MooDoo> MartijnVdS: ah get you...doh i'm slow today! badum tish
[07:43] <MartijnVdS> MooDoo: joke.popey.com!
[07:43] <MooDoo> http://tumbleweed.popey.com/
[07:44] <mapps> do you have loads of cycle lanes in holland?
[07:44] <mapps> cyclings popular so i guess so?
[07:44] <MartijnVdS> mapps: yeah, everyone does it really
[07:46] <mapps> roads here aree too busy
[07:46] <MartijnVdS> mapps: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23587916
[07:46] <MartijnVdS> mapps: also http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23611650
[07:46] <jussi> MooDoo: motorcycling has always appealed to me, but my Dad having only one leg because of it kinda put me off
[07:46] <mapps> loading :d
[07:47] <mapps> oh wow
[07:47] <MooDoo> jussi: you do need eyes in the back of your head, but I've ridden for almost 20 years so I'm ok with it
[07:47] <mapps> MartijnVdS,
[07:47] <mapps> The Netherlands and in cities like Amsterdam and The Hague up to 70% of all journeys are made by bike.
[07:47] <mapps> thats incredibly
[07:47] <mapps> 70%!!!
[07:48] <MartijnVdS> mapps: and most people don't use racing bikes, which helps with reducing speed and increasing overview
[07:49] <mapps> yea i think theyre a different type of bike to what we see here
[07:49] <mapps> nbormally we see people use mountain bikes..not the saame there?
[07:50] <MartijnVdS> mapps: no, watch those videos on the BBC links I posted, you'll see :)
[07:50] <MartijnVdS> mapps: mostly stuff like http://aldofietsen.nl/fietsen/catalogus/herenfietsen.html
[07:51] <MartijnVdS> http://aldofietsen.nl/fietsen/catalogus/herenfietsen/59/0/opa_transport_28.html < mine
[07:51] <mapps> cool front and back rack things
[07:52] <MartijnVdS> *very* useful for carrying a case of beer in front and the rest of the groceries behind you :)
[07:52] <mapps> lol
[07:59] <jussi> opa bikes :D
[08:00] <MartijnVdS> jussi: yeah, grandfather bikes. Named because the women's variant is called "omafiets", granny bike :)
[08:01] <jussi> MartijnVdS: yeah, we have Mummo pyörä here also. (given my dutch background, Im familiar with the terminology)
[08:08] <knightwise> morning everyon e
[08:08] <TheOpenSourcerer> \o/
[08:12] <MooDoo> morning morning
[08:20] <MartijnVdS> only 3 more days!
[08:20] <mapps> for weekend?
[08:20] <mapps> yea
[08:20] <mapps> well
[08:21] <MartijnVdS> mapps: flying to London on Friday
[08:21] <mapps> for me only 2 more days..off from Thursday:D
[08:21] <MooDoo> I finish at 11 today, yippee
[08:21] <mapps> my work night out for xmas is thursday but i cant go as im flying to Holland friday
[08:21] <TheOpenSourcerer> MartijnVdS: Back again?
[08:21] <mapps> we are flying to each others countries same day
[08:21] <mapps> :D
[08:21] <MartijnVdS> TheOpenSourcerer: sunday evening
[08:21] <TheOpenSourcerer> Work or pleasure?
[08:22] <mapps> jussi,  where is here?
[08:22] <MartijnVdS> TheOpenSourcerer: going to a lunch + concert by http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbn10J_11f8
[08:23] <MartijnVdS> TheOpenSourcerer: so pleasure :)
[08:23] <mapps> hm never evenb heard of her
[08:23] <TheOpenSourcerer> Me neither.
[08:23] <TheOpenSourcerer> Nice voice.
[08:23] <TheOpenSourcerer> Not sure I like the song much though
[08:24] <mapps> where is the concert?
[08:24] <MartijnVdS> mapps: The Tabernacle
[08:24] <mapps> never heard of it:D
[08:24] <MartijnVdS> (Notting Hill)
[08:24] <mapps> ah
[08:24] <mapps> heard of there of course
[08:24] <mapps> :)
[08:24] <MartijnVdS> http://www.tabernaclew11.com/
[08:24] <TheOpenSourcerer> I'm more of a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNnAvTTaJjM kind of bloke
[08:25] <mapps> loading
[08:25] <mapps> ah i recognise talking heads at least
[08:25] <mapps> and then im more of a ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4JEJB3IAGg
[08:25] <mapps> clearly 3 very different tastes
[08:27] <TheOpenSourcerer> lol - I've never heard of sven vath. Is that actually a tune?
[08:28] <mapps> yes
[08:28] <mapps> played live tho
[08:28] <mapps> wait a sec
[08:28] <mapps> sorry no sven vaeth is the dj
[08:28] <mapps> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNmFlRd7EFw
[08:28] <jussi> mapps: here is Helsinki area, finland )
[08:28] <mapps> thats the song global communicator 14;31
[08:28] <mapps> love it
[08:32] <SuperMatt> morning all
[08:32] <MooDoo> morning SuperMatt
[08:32] <mapps> morning
[08:33] <knightwise> hey everyone
[08:33] <knightwise> how are you guys doin today
[08:34] <SuperMatt> extremely well
[08:34] <SuperMatt> I am officially no longer over weight!
[08:34] <SuperMatt> thanks to 4 straight nights of dancing
[08:35] <popey> I'm more of a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTpUVAcvWfU kind of guy
[08:35] <MooDoo> I'm clinically obese :)
[08:35] <SuperMatt> thaaaat's not a smilie face moment
[08:35] <popey> song doesn't start till 2:19
[08:36] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: if you could see me, you'd know it's a joke, i am classed as clinically obese just coz I'm 18 stone, but I'm 6'6 so it's all rubbish!
[08:36]  * TheOpenSourcerer worries about popey
[08:36] <SuperMatt> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaxGc7GKqSM
[08:36] <SuperMatt> there we are, I'm the dude on the left
[08:36] <SuperMatt> now remember I've done that routine about 10 times since friday night
[08:37] <SuperMatt> as well as other social dancing
[08:37] <diplo> Morning all
[08:38] <jussi> oh popey, you shouldnt make me laugh and despair at the same time!!!
[08:38] <jussi> reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCwBkNgPZFQ#t=232 )
[08:38] <popey> its cute isnt it?
[08:38] <TheOpenSourcerer> SuperMatt: That's pretty cool.
[08:38] <MooDoo> popey: now where is the extreame ironing video ;)
[08:39]  * SuperMatt raises an eyebrow at popey 
[08:41] <SuperMatt> TheOpenSourcerer: thanks :)
[08:47] <knightwise> Whooho :) I just got root access to our new internet gateway. I now have the power over a 500 mBit connection that is used for over 5000 users
[08:47] <knightwise> unfortunately nobody in this company has an idea what that means
[08:47] <jussi> knightwise: break it!!
[08:58] <popey> *boggle* http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/man-commits-suicide-girlfriend-refuses-stop-shopping-report-article-1.1542366
[08:59] <popey> its all in the url
[09:00] <MooDoo> wow :(
[09:01] <TheOpenSourcerer> I know how he feels sometimes ;-)
[09:02] <popey> also.. lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6Ian6oV5RQ
[09:03] <TheOpenSourcerer> lol
[09:04] <TheOpenSourcerer> Best thing for it proly
[09:17] <jussi> what do peoples think about this : https://sen.se/store/mother/ - creepy? useful? scary? helpful?
[09:20] <mapps> hmm
[09:21] <dogmatic69> Idea seems ok, name is a bit lame
[09:22] <popey> jussi: have you seen black mirror?
[09:22] <jussi> popey: no?
[09:24] <popey> it reminds me of an episode of that called "Entire History of You"
[09:24] <popey> also, fitbit does a lot of what that Mother does
[09:29] <Guest86827> Good morning all; happy Human Rights Day! :-D
[09:29] <MooDoo> hi james
[09:29] <Guest86827> (Can you tell who it is yet?)
[09:29] <jussi> hrm, fitbit does look interesting, but lacks the in home connectivity. Is fitbit open in anny way?
[09:29] <MooDoo> Guest86827: it's the sir james of tai
[09:29] <MooDoo> t
[09:29] <jussi> :D
[09:32] <JamesTait> Looks like I'm not the only one to have had nick problems. :-/
[09:33] <jussi> hrm, I need to buy a record cleaner. these old record are collecting lots of dust
[09:34] <JamesTait> ISTR we had a special cloth just for that purpose.  I wonder what happened to it.
[09:34] <dvrr> haiiiiiiiiiiiii
[09:36] <JamesTait> OHAI dvrr! :)
[09:37] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:38] <MooDoo> dvrr: what you want? ;)
[09:40] <JamesTait> bigcalm, o/
[09:41] <JamesTait> MooDoo, o/ (I'm not ignoring you!)
[09:42]  * popey drools at http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=31060
[09:43] <MooDoo> JamesTait: I know
[09:44] <MooDoo> popey: how much for that though
[09:44] <popey> no idea
[09:52] <bigcalm> Who buys adult qtips? The ones in the baby section of super markets are so much cheaper. I see no difference between them, except for the price
[09:53] <popey> you call them qtips?
[09:54] <bigcalm> It's a brand name that most people know
[09:54] <bigcalm> Cotton buds on sticks
[09:57] <foobarry> so thats what qtips are
[09:57] <foobarry> i call them cotton buds
[09:57] <diplo> foobarry: +1
[09:57] <diplo> :)
[09:57]  * bigcalm shrugs
[09:57] <diplo> And bigcalm I always buy the ones in the baby section
[10:01] <foobarry> they magically appear in my bathroom cabinet
[10:02] <bigcalm> Heh
[10:02] <foobarry> i think they are delivered by drone
[10:02] <bigcalm> As I work from home, I like to go and do the shopping
[10:02] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: is that what you call your wife now?
[10:02] <bigcalm> Aww
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[10:04] <bigcalm> That said, I wish my wife had VTOL capabilities
[10:07] <BigRedS> oo-er
[10:08] <bigcalm> Humm. As soon as Linux Voice reached its 90K target, an extra 2.6K was raised
[10:08] <bigcalm> I guess when people know something is going to happen, they are willing to submit
[10:09] <bigcalm> While the RPi project is only 57 quid over the target. Humm
[10:09] <bigcalm> AlanBell: I think you need to do more publicity
[10:10] <MooDoo> AlanBell: get linux voice to do an article on the pi cluster for it's first issue ;)
[10:13] <AlanBell> I was going to blog some more pictures of the bits I have for the cluster
[10:13] <AlanBell> "doing more publicity" is kinda hard to do
[10:13] <bigcalm> Indeed
[10:14] <bigcalm> AlanBell: good work :)
[10:14] <MooDoo> AlanBell: you need a site dedicated to this ;)
[10:14] <AlanBell> I was hoping that OMGUbuntu would do something about it
[10:14] <AlanBell> or the raspberry pi blog
[10:15] <MooDoo> AlanBell: speak to SuperMatt he knows the omgubuntu people
[10:15] <bigcalm> AlanBell: have you asked either to talk about it?
[10:15] <AlanBell> I mentioned it to d0od and Liz upton knows what we are up to
[10:16] <AlanBell> but there is a limit to how much "write about this now!!11!" that I can do
[10:17] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[10:17] <MartijnVdS> \o brobostigon
[10:17] <AlanBell> I am going to do another blog article and an update on the campaign with more pictures soonish, I have the rack assembled for it now
[10:17] <brobostigon> morning MartijnVdS
[10:18] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: cool! lego? ;)
[10:18] <jussi> AlanBell: just promise the guys from OMG that they can use a quote of you complaining about Mir, then youll have them jumping all over you :P
[10:19] <brobostigon> android 4.4 is working well on my nexus7, it is alittle different, and have noticed a few issues, but overall it works well.
[10:20] <jussi> I wish samsung would get on and update my galaxy note 2...
[10:20] <brobostigon> also a bug or two.
[10:20] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: stock or cm?
[10:20] <jussi> still stuck on 4.1.2 here :/
[10:20] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: both.
[10:22] <AlanBell> MartijnVdS: not lego, IKEA stuff
[10:22] <foobarry> what does a yellow marker line on the youtube timeline mean?
[10:22] <brobostigon> also, it does make me wonder, if ARt is worth trying yet.
[10:23] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: that's when the ad starts
[10:23] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: Lego, IKEA.. it's all Scandinavian and build-it-yourself :P
[10:23] <foobarry> thanks MartijnVdS
[10:25] <foobarry> has anyone ever tried the awesome terminal app called terminology?
[10:25] <bashrc> nope
[10:25] <MooDoo> terminator is good enough for me :D
[10:26] <foobarry> can terminator show images?
[10:26] <bashrc> I use Terminator all the time
[10:27] <foobarry> i made a little video of terminology features www.youtube.com/watch?v=05QKOxIqyWY
[10:27] <foobarry> its the new awesome
[10:27] <foobarry> clickable pdfs and jpgs in the terminal window are v nice features
[10:28] <brobostigon> has any tried ART in droid 4.4 yet?
[10:29] <brobostigon> and more crucially, can i switch back to dalvik again.
[10:29] <bigcalm> Oh, there's a bug that I thought had gone away - Software updates are available so the icon has appeared in the launcher. Clicking on it does nothing though
[10:29] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: you can switch back, according to stuff I read on xda-developers forums
[10:29] <MartijnVdS> but haven't tried art yet
[10:29] <diplo> foobarry: I was looking at that yesterday, how many libs does it bring in ?
[10:30] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: ok, thank you.
[10:30] <Myrtti> oh man, just when my meeting ended and finally had a possibility to watch the memorial and then the transmission goes flaky
[10:30] <TheOpenSourcerer> Cool BT now saying my local exchange is forecast to support FTTC in March 2014 :-D Thanks to the EU funded superfast broadband rural upgrade programme.
[10:31] <bashrc> is there a deb for Terminology?
[10:31] <foobarry> diplo: the enlightenment ones, but not too bad, < 30 ?
[10:32] <diplo> May give it a go then, bashrc not that I found.. you have to add the etl ppa I believe unless foobarry knows otherwise
[10:32] <foobarry> hang on..
[10:32] <foobarry> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:efl/trunk
[10:32] <foobarry> sudo apt-get install e17 libelementary libethumb efreet libefreet-dev libefreet1 libfribidi-dev libelementary-dev libexif libexif-dev
[10:32] <foobarry> then compiled the terminology from source
[10:33] <foobarry> YMMV
[10:33] <diplo> it's in that ppa though from what I saw foobarry ?
[10:33] <foobarry> v0.4?
[10:33] <foobarry> 0.3 is in repo
[10:33] <foobarry> 0.4 has reflow and other features and  bug fixes
[10:34] <foobarry> can any other terminal app show images like that?
[10:34] <diplo> ah right
[10:34] <bashrc> looks like libelementary package not found
[10:34] <foobarry> ah, i copied the commands from my history, try remove that then
[10:34] <foobarry> since libelemtanry-dev is there
[10:35] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: yes, the ART page on source.android.com confirms it.
[10:36] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: I've heard that OTA upgrades might break if you use ART though
[10:36] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: thats another worry, yes. i shall have to do a CWM backup incase,
[10:46] <bigcalm> popey: how many tabs do you tend to keep open in Chromium?
[10:46] <popey> about 50
[10:51] <bigcalm> Ah, that's why I don't appear to have memory problems using it
[10:55] <foobarry> popey: thrust \o/
[10:56] <foobarry> definite lack of physics games in the channel4 programme about breakthrough videogames the other day
[10:59] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:59] <bashrc> morning
[11:00] <bigcalm> Morning davmor2
[11:03] <davmor2> bigcalm: hey dude
[11:11] <bigcalm> I'm horribly confused by git right now. 'git status' and 'git diff' were both showing modified files. Issuing 'git commit' returned 'nothing added to commit but untracked files present (use "git add" to track)'. Then doing 'git status' shows nothing modified for committing. 'git push' returns 'Everything up-to-date'
[11:12] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: try 'git gui' and/or gitk
[11:12] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: the 'git gui' can help commit weird changes, gitk shows history
[11:13] <bashrc> git log
[11:13] <MartijnVdS> or that
[11:13] <bigcalm> MartijnVdS: looking at gitlab, the edits that showed up in 'git diff' also show up as already being commited
[11:13] <bigcalm> Most confusing
[11:21] <MartijnVdS> such confuse! so git!
[11:22] <foobarry> very git
[11:23] <MartijnVdS> much version!
[11:24] <foobarry> https://twitter.com/prettycoolbear/status/409807483599720448
[11:27] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: so doge!
[11:27]  * MartijnVdS stops now
[11:36] <popey> https://github.com/fogleman/Craft
[11:36] <popey> nice
[11:39] <popey> also https://github.com/fogleman/Minecraft
[11:41] <foobarry> i thought they intended to make minecraft free after a certain point
[11:41] <foobarry> maybe changed their mind
[11:41] <foobarry> or did he sell the company?
[11:43] <popey> he didnt sell the company
[11:43] <popey> he never put a timescale on when he'd open source it
[11:44] <popey> "Once sales start dying and a minimum time has passed, I will release the game source code as some kind of open source."
[11:44] <DJones> I know its a clone, but the graphics in the clone look like exact replicas of the originals (looking at the photo's anyway)
[11:45] <foobarry> i think thats what i had lodged in my memory somewhere
[13:11] <Dave-Maydew> I know this is going to sound crazy, but is there anywhere I can get all of the Ubuntu UK Podcasts?
[13:14] <SuperMatt> http://uk-lo-2.static.podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/uupc///
[13:14] <popey> CRAZY!
[13:14] <SuperMatt> You could use wget to get everything from there
[13:14] <popey> better to get it from our box really
[13:14] <popey> thats a mirror, be nice not to abuse the mirror
[13:15] <SuperMatt> well I just went to podcast.ubuntu-uk.org and it redirected me
[13:15] <Dave-Maydew> Thanks popey I knew you'd say that
[13:15] <awilkins> I thought mirrors were FOR abuse
[13:15] <SuperMatt> sorry, podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/download
[13:15] <awilkins> It's main servers that you don't want to abuse
[13:15] <popey> wget --no-parent -m http://static.podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/uupc/
[13:15] <popey> do that
[13:15] <popey> (technically they're both VPSs at bitfolk, but I'd rather you beat up ours than theirs)
[13:15] <Dave-Maydew> I've got series 6 but I'd like all the others... it's for reference purposes for a friend
[13:16] <popey> SuperMatt: yeah, that redirects dynamically to a different mirror
[13:16] <SuperMatt> fair enough
[13:17] <popey> golly 2009
[13:17] <popey> has it been that long!
[13:17] <SuperMatt> sure has!
[13:17] <Dave-Maydew> It's been a few years
[13:18] <BigRedS> SuperMatt: I think I'm still a mirror - I could tar it up and stick it somewhere for you if you like?
[13:18] <SuperMatt> it's not me asking
[13:18] <SuperMatt> it's Dave-Maydew
[13:18] <BigRedS> oh
[13:18] <BigRedS> oh yeah
[13:19] <BigRedS> Either way, the newest file I've got in ~uupc is December 2012....
[13:19] <Dave-Maydew> December 4th
[13:19] <Dave-Maydew> I'm just listening to it :-)
[13:19] <czajkowski> aloha
[13:20] <Dave-Maydew> Hey SuperMatt
[13:20] <Dave-Maydew> How do you know me??
[13:20] <Dave-Maydew> where from??
[13:20] <SuperMatt> I don't
[13:20] <SuperMatt> I was saying it's you asking for access to the downloads
[13:21] <Dave-Maydew> hahaha no worries
[13:21] <Dave-Maydew> I'll be known as that Crazy UK Linux user that asked for all the episodes
[13:21] <BigRedS> popey: do you know if my uupc mirror is broken? Do you want me to fix it? :)
[13:22] <Dave-Maydew> If it's the one popey gave, it's working
[13:22] <Dave-Maydew> topping 70mb download speed too
[13:22] <popey> BigRedS: i do not know! I will take a look when I get a mo
[13:23] <popey> Whoosh!
[13:23] <popey> its all creative commons so we're fine with you redistributing it to friends and family as christmas presents
[13:23] <Dave-Maydew> I shall do don't worry
[13:24] <Dave-Maydew> My friend won't know what's hit him!!
[13:24] <Dave-Maydew> I've even bought him a Raspberry Pi!!
[13:26] <Dave-Maydew> Since splitting up from the soon to be ex-wife, I've noticed nVidia are getting better at drivers
[13:27] <popey> correlation is not causation!
[13:27] <Dave-Maydew> hahaha correct
[13:28] <Dave-Maydew> What can we look forward to in 14.04LTS popey?
[13:28] <Dave-Maydew> will it be quicker than 12.04?
[13:28] <popey> It will be better in every single way.
[13:28] <foobarry> is unity qt yet?
[13:29] <Dave-Maydew> They're leaving Mir... or is it Wayland
[13:29] <popey> unity 8 is
[13:29] <Dave-Maydew> till whenever
[13:29] <foobarry> unity 8 is in which release?
[13:30] <popey> 13.10 on phone, 14.04 on tablet, 14.10 on pc - roughly speaking
[13:30] <popey> (should be a preview on 14.04 desktop too I think)
[13:30] <Dave-Maydew> Are you still using the Nexus 4 popey?
[13:31] <popey> ya
[13:31] <Dave-Maydew> Android or Ubuntu?
[13:31] <popey> Ubuntu
[13:31] <Dave-Maydew> battery life?
[13:31] <popey> i haven't measured it
[13:31] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/phablet/gallery.php wheeee
[13:31] <Dave-Maydew> hahahaha
[13:32] <Dave-Maydew> when is it officially released?
[13:33] <diplo> Anyone recommend any window backup software ( free and easy to use ) been away from windows backups for a while now, guessing a few of you still do stuff
[13:33] <diplo> Windows*
[13:33] <Dave-Maydew> I'm running Droid 4.4.2 on my Nexus 4 at present
[13:34] <Dave-Maydew> I do like the look of Touch
[13:36] <popey> 14.04 april, 14.10 october
[13:36] <popey> 4 = april, 10 = october
[13:37] <Dave-Maydew> I guessed that from when I begun to run Ubuntu from 9.10 :-)
[13:41] <Dave-Maydew> I shall wait till 14.04LTS to try Ubuntu Touch
[13:44] <Dave-Maydew> Anyone here played around with GNURadio?
[13:45] <MartijnVdS> Dave-Maydew: I've been meaning to
[13:45] <MartijnVdS> Dave-Maydew: USB RTL thingy is underway from China to me
[13:46] <Dave-Maydew> You'll be pleasantly surprised! I use the FCD Pro+ and the RTL Dongle
[13:46] <foobarry> if i do ssh -L 8443:hostc:443 root@hostb to create a tunnel to hostc via hostb, how do i do that with ssh_config?
[13:46] <MartijnVdS> foobarry:     LocalForward 5901 192.168.0.246:5900
[13:46] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: see man ssh_config
[13:47] <foobarry> that only has one host mentioned though?
[13:47] <Dave-Maydew> MartijnVdS are you a licensed ham?
[13:48] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: there's LocalForward (-L) and RemoteForward (-R) and DynamicForward (-D)
[13:48] <MartijnVdS> Dave-Maydew: no, I'm just going to receive :)
[13:48] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: it's "LocalForward localip:localport remoteip:remoteport, in case you're wondering
[13:48] <Dave-Maydew> It's great! Especially with the new FunCube 1 satellite
[13:49] <foobarry>  think i need remoteforward
[13:49] <Dave-Maydew> Anyway, I'm trying to remember a question I was going to ask... but it's gone....
[13:50] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: a "remote forward" means something will listen on the remote end, and it will be forwarded to the local end
[13:50] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: local forward means connections made to something local will be forwarded to something on the remote end
[13:50] <foobarry> oh, i need localforward :)
[13:51] <foobarry> thanks
[13:51] <MartijnVdS> dynamicforward = socks proxy
[13:51] <MartijnVdS> = usefulz
[13:55] <popey> MartijnVdS: which USB RTL?
[13:56] <MartijnVdS> popey: http://www.ebay.nl/itm/291010528651
[14:02] <Dave-Maydew> They receive 50MHz to 2.2GHz
[14:02] <Dave-Maydew> with either GQRX (PPA Available thanks to Alex Csete) or SDR#
[14:03] <foobarry> MartijnVdS: got it working, ta, i needed the host specified on the line above ;)
[14:07] <foobarry> what you using the usb rtl for?
[14:08] <MartijnVdS> I haven't got it yet
[14:08] <foobarry> "listning to DAB radio"
[14:08] <foobarry> or "naughtiness"
[14:08] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: "yes" :)
[14:08] <foobarry> and everything in between
[14:09] <Dave-Maydew> I'm using it for ADSB 1090MHz Aircraft RADAR
[14:09] <Dave-Maydew> and other stuff
[14:09] <MartijnVdS> apparently there's some cool stuff in the FM band, DARC
[14:09] <Dave-Maydew> There is
[14:10] <Dave-Maydew> and if you get to grips with GNURadio, you can decode GSM phones
[14:10] <Dave-Maydew> and other general stuff
[14:10] <Dave-Maydew> personal projects
[14:10] <foobarry> hence cynanogen encrypting text messages?
[14:11] <foobarry> or is that to avoid corporate sniffers
[14:11] <Dave-Maydew> possible
[14:11] <Dave-Maydew> but the world is your oyster with RTL
[14:12] <Dave-Maydew> I must find out when the Wolverhampton LUG meeting is
[14:12] <foobarry> shame that iperf is not on the usb image
[14:12] <foobarry> don't have a net connectino on either server
[14:13] <foobarry> !package iperf
[14:14] <foobarry> !info iperf
[14:21] <Dave-Maydew> Now, the Podcasts I've downloaded, I'd like Rhythmbox to see them, how can I get it to?
[14:22] <Dave-Maydew> in the Podcasts section? or is that not possible?
[14:24] <popey> pass
[14:24] <Dave-Maydew> No problem
[14:26] <davmor2> Dave-Maydew: you can add the podcast download url directly into Rhythmbox and it will download the podcasts that's what the podcast bit is for
[14:27] <popey> then you could pre-stuff them into ~/Podcasts or where it puts them, maybe
[14:27] <popey> might work
[14:27] <Dave-Maydew> re-download all the episodes?
[14:28] <davmor2> Dave-Maydew: no but you can download the current one and add the rest to that folder and see if that works
[14:28] <Dave-Maydew> Just done that, not displaying them
[14:29] <davmor2> Dave-Maydew: now close rhythmbox open a terminal and do killall rhythmbox and then try opening rhythmbox again
[14:30] <Dave-Maydew> No process found
[14:32] <davmor2> Dave-Maydew: that's fine it was just to make sure it was closed
[14:32] <Dave-Maydew> ok, and still none of the new ones added
[14:32] <Dave-Maydew> shame that
[15:12] <diplo> I've got 4 video files from moon landings my dad has got, I was debating creating a dvd to play it for him.. best program atm to use ( none installed at work, so open to anything )
[15:31] <foobarry> is your dad neil armstrong?
[15:32] <diplo> hah, well he could probably tell you ALL you would ever need to know :)_
[15:32] <foobarry> i usually defer to MartijnVdS when it comes to media files
[15:36] <diplo> trying devede for now, don't want anything special
[15:37] <dwatkins> diplo: ask Scott Manley ;)
[15:37] <dwatkins> He's made lots of videos about Mun landings
[16:30] <diplo> aquarius: Just saw you enter, just to let you know you have a JS error in play in popup on badvoltage.org in the podpress.js
[16:44] <aquarius> orly?
[16:44]  * aquarius has a look
[16:44] <aquarius> hm, I don't get one?
[16:45] <diplo> I get a different one in chrome on a different machine
[16:45] <diplo> TypeError: document.getElementById(...) is null
[16:45] <aquarius> http://www.badvoltage.org/2013/12/05/1x04/ and click "Play Now", and I get no error (and things play). Chromium 30
[16:45] <diplo> http://www.badvoltage.org/#podPressPlayerSpace_2
[16:45] <diplo> Play in pop up
[16:46] <diplo> Ah specifically OGG, hadn't noticed that
[16:46] <aquarius> the popup thing for ogg is weird
[16:46] <aquarius> it uses the stupid Java Cortado plugin
[16:47] <aquarius> if you're playing the ogg and you want to stay in the browser, I'd personally hit the download link instead and then it'll play with the browser native ogg player
[16:48] <aquarius> (also, I still don't get an error, for whatever reason...)
[16:48] <diplo> FF on 13.10
[16:48] <diplo> I've listened, just thought i'd bring it to your attention :)
[18:38] <popey> http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57615107-94/ubuntu-touch-os-wins-its-first-smartphone-partner/
[18:38] <popey> \o/
[19:04] <aquarius> nice. :)
[19:14] <DJones> popey: Also on OMGUbuntu http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/12/ubuntu-touch-signs-first-hardware-partner-will-debut-high-end-phone-2014
[19:22] <ali1234> high end you say?
[19:22] <popey> 14" screen, 2TB SSD, you know..
[19:22] <ali1234> low end now means 1GB and quad core
[19:22] <ali1234> so i assume that high end means specs similar to the edge
[20:18] <AlanBell> that comes fairly close to being an interesting announcement of something http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/12/ubuntu-touch-signs-first-hardware-partner-will-debut-high-end-phone-2014
[20:18] <AlanBell> just a touch ambiguous though
[20:23] <davmor2> AlanBell: it's a phone, made by people, for people, with an os to match, What's ambiguous about that :D
[20:24] <daftykins> if a printer installation guide includes a reference to "/dev/usb/lp0" would that definitely be the device for ubuntu too?
[20:25] <davmor2> daftykins: maybe, depends on the make of the printer though and whether Mac uses that format :)
[20:25] <daftykins> it's a Canon that a manual driver has had to be installed for, which was in the form of .deb's from Canon's website
[20:25] <AlanBell> davmor2: and it turns you from this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/mark-mit-phone.jpg
[20:25] <AlanBell> to this http://asset2.cbsistatic.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim2/2013/12/10/20131210_Mark_Shuttleworth_LeWeb_001_610x416.jpg
[20:27] <davmor2> AlanBell: That would be Yeti Shuttleworth, Marks evil twin ;)
[20:28] <popey> hah
[20:28] <davmor2> AlanBell: That was Marks Movember Charity bit me thinks
[20:29] <AlanBell> that is more than a month of face fur
[20:29] <DJones> This is what I call a Movember insanity attempt http://www.buzzfeed.com/summeranne/movember-has-been-conquered-and-its-glorious
[20:30] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: 8 years ago, he looked like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSxAoxwYyxE
[20:30] <MartijnVdS> davmor2: ^
[20:30] <MartijnVdS> (uploaded in 2008, but the video was shot in Montreal, late '05)
[20:31] <AlanBell> nice mullet
[20:32] <daftykins> DJones: @_@