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nuvolario/ mornings04:46
Private_Usermorning all, morning nuvolari 05:35
kbmonkeyhello o/05:37
Private_Userhello kbmonkey 05:38
kbmonkeyhi Private_User - anything new going on?05:43
Private_Usernothing at the moment05:43
Private_Useroff to CPT in a few hrs, any suggestions of must see places?05:44
kbmonkeyyes, if you like some hiking activity there is a trail up Lion's Head to the top05:45
kbmonkeyyou se the whole basin from up there05:45
SilverCodePrivate_User: there are busses that go point to point around historic places in Cape Town along routes called the Blue Route and Red Route05:46
SilverCodePrivate_User: if I recall, they were pretty cheap05:46
SilverCodePrivate_User: and well worth it05:46
SilverCodeyou hop on a bus, go to a location, hop off, spend as much time there as you want, get back on the next buss passing by etc05:46
kbmonkeybest is if you have a car also don't forget to go check out the fynbos!05:47
Private_UserThanks cool stuff will maybe try it cause gonna do all the other usual stuff people do as well like robben island, table montain, etc05:47
Private_Useryeah will be renting a car05:47
Private_Usermy first CPT trip :)05:47
SilverCodeRobin Island is well worth it ... but I wonder how busy it will be with recent events05:47
kbmonkeyah those hop on-off busses are cool, yes.05:53
kbmonkeywent to so many places in CT I can't remember all of it, feels so long ago!05:53
kbmonkeyit is well worth driving along the coast to the national reserve05:53
kbmonkeyI remember stopping along the ways, looking at the views, even saw whales off the coast!05:54
Private_Usercool stuff thanks kbmonkey, SilverCode I will be sure to use your suggestions05:55
kbmonkeyoh and if you do wine, you have to visit the farms :]05:56
kbmonkeyPrivate_User, how long are you going for ?06:00
Private_Userkbmonkey:  returning Sunday06:01
kbmonkeyah, well enjoy! there is so much to see!06:02
Private_Userthanks06:02
kbmonkeysigh, I give up on google plus. nothing ever loads.06:02
Private_Userbtw questions whats the difference between Zorin and Ubuntu, I see its based on Ubuntu?06:04
Private_Usermy frind wants to install that on his machine because the evironment is very similar to Windows06:05
Private_Userand he is very new to Linux06:05
kbmonkeyI wouldn't know really, best read their site for more info06:05
kbmonkeyI would try all the distros if I could download them XD06:06
nuvolarioh hi kbmonkey, Private_User, SilverCode,06:09
Kilosohi kbmonkey and others06:10
Kiloslisten to the falling rain, listen to it fall06:10
Private_Userhiya Kilos and nuvolari 06:10
Kiloshi Private_User 06:11
Kilosmôre nuvolari 06:11
* kbmonkey hears rain06:15
kbmonkeystarted reading Spook Country, William Gibson06:15
kbmonkeyjust finished the walking dead, rise of the Governor06:16
kbmonkeyzombies! gaargh mrh?06:16
Kiloshehe06:16
kbmonkeyI go be a zombie at work now06:18
kbmonkeyenjoy the rain Kilos - it is raining here too06:18
Kilosty kbmonkey have a good day06:20
Kiloshi mazal 06:22
KilosThatGraemeGuy, toooo06:22
ThatGraemeGuymorning peoples06:37
superflyaloha06:41
Kiloshi superfly 06:42
Squirmhi07:15
Kiloshi Squirm 07:15
Kilosmorning drussell 07:20
Kiloswhere are you today?07:20
drussellKilos: Beijing :oD07:28
Kilossjoe07:31
Kiloshi Vince-0 07:31
Vince-0Hi07:31
Private_Usercheers guys I am off to catch my flight07:51
Kilosgo well Private_User 07:51
Private_Userthanks Kilos07:52
inetprogood morning07:53
Kilosmorning inetpro reen lekker ne07:53
inetprohi Kilos07:54
inetproyep, baie lekker07:54
Kilosai! power flicking07:57
Kiloshttp://mybroadband.co.za/news/government/93063-e-tolls-will-be-scrapped-duvenhage.html08:09
charlgood morning !08:59
charlMaaz: coffee on08:59
* Maaz washes some mugs08:59
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MaazCoffee's ready for charl!09:03
SilverCodeI wish people in my office made me coffee :(09:09
Kiloshi charl SilverCode 09:34
KilosMaaz, wheres my coffee09:34
MaazYou snooze you lose Kilos09:34
KilosMaaz, coffee on09:34
* Maaz starts grinding coffee09:34
Kiloshi psyatw 09:35
Kilosand tal0n 09:35
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!09:38
KilosMaaz, dankie09:39
MaazGroot plesier Kilos my vriend09:39
psyatwhi Kilos09:40
psyatwmaaz: hello!09:41
* Maaz waves to psyatw09:41
psyatw:)09:41
charlhi SilverCode 09:42
charlhi Kilos 09:42
charlhi psyatw 09:42
psyatwhi charl09:42
charli'm playing with github right now... you can do some really cool stuff with github pages09:42
charlit's based off a tool which they released as open source called jeckyll09:42
charltakes a bunch of templates and markdown files and creates nice clean html files for you09:43
SilverCodeanyone know much about apache config?13:16
confluencyMaybe. What's your question?13:22
SilverCodeI'm trying to get SSL certs working for a subdomain13:23
SilverCodethe key has been signed to allow the subdomain13:24
SilverCodebut going tp https://www.xyz.com shows the default site as expected13:24
SilverCodeand going to https://app.xyz.com doesn't, it shows the same as www.xyz.com13:25
SilverCodeyet http://app.xyz.com show the right thing13:25
SilverCodeit is like for SSL Apache isn't directing the client to the correct VirtualHost13:25
Vince-0check the port number on the virtualhost config?13:26
SilverCodeport number looks correct13:27
Vince-0<Virtualhost *:443>  ?13:28
SilverCodeyup13:29
SilverCodelooks like you can't have 2 Virtual Hosts running on the same machine with SSL13:45
ThatGraemeGuyyou need SNI to support multiple SSL vhosts on the same IP:port combination13:47
ThatGraemeGuyhttp://wiki.apache.org/httpd/NameBasedSSLVHostsWithSNI, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Name_Indication13:47
ThatGraemeGuybiggest hiccup with that these days is that Windows XP users will have a problem, but that gets to be less and less of an issue every day13:48
ThatGraemeGuywe have a few clients using it13:48
SilverCodewell the virtual hosts that I want the SSL for is within the same domain14:20
SilverCodewhich according to http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/NameBasedSSLVHosts is possible14:20
SilverCodebut it just refuses to actually work :(14:20
SilverCodeYAY! finally got it working14:29
SilverCodenot sure how though14:29
SilverCodebut it works14:29
SilverCodeso I'm going to stop messing with it now14:29
Kilosyay, write down what you had to do14:29
Kiloswell done14:29
SilverCodeSadly I don't know what I did14:30
Kilosrofl14:30
SilverCodeand hopefully next time around our admin will be the one dealing with this shit, not me14:30
Kilosbackup your settings and stuff14:31
SilverCodenext up, getting the re-directs working and holding thumbs that the code doesn't break like it did last time14:31
Kilosno chance, they see you can do it , so its your job in the future14:31
SilverCodeKilos: luckily the Admin actually works *for* me, so he has to do it next time :)14:32
SilverCodehe just couldn't do it this time because he is busy with other things14:32
Kilosaha14:33
tal0nhi everyone14:58
Kiloshows tal0n 14:58
tal0nhi Kilos, well tx! self?14:59
Kilosgood ty14:59
tal0ni'm playing around with shell scripting and want to add a progress bar / spinner thingy while performing a 'sudo apt-get update -qq' in the background... anyone have some ideas?15:01
Kilosif you lucky someone will help you later, they all on the way home now methinks15:03
tal0nlol thanks, will ask later again ;)15:03
Kiloswhat is the --qq for?15:04
tal0nmakes the update quiet (like copying without -v)15:04
Kilosah you dont like seeing things15:05
Kilosim too nosy, like to watch it all the way15:06
tal0nactually just trying to learn some scripting and an it gives me a reason to implement a progress bar. the man pages for apt-get say its not actually a good idea to use -qq15:06
tal0nlol i do to15:06
Kiloslol15:06
charlhi Private_User 15:13
Private_Userhi charl15:14
Kilosyo15:14
Private_UserI am using the hotels free wi-fi15:14
Private_User:)15:14
Kiloslekker15:14
Kiloswhere are you?15:15
Private_UserCape Town15:15
Kilostal0n, 17:36
Kilosgoogle how to add a progress bar to sudo apt-get upgrade17:36
Kilosai!17:36
KilosMaaz, google how to add a progress bar to sudo apt-get upgrade17:37
MaazKilos: "Parsing output of apt-get install for progress bar - Stack Overflow" http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1692082/ :: "View progress of a package installation in terminal - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/245808/view-progress-of-a-package-installation-in-terminal :: "command line - Unity progress bar for gnome-terminal? - Ask Ubuntu"17:37
Maazhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/296457/unity-progress-bar-for-gnome-terminal :: "chrismwayne" http://chr…17:37
Kiloshi nlsthzn hows neelsie17:38
nlsthznalo :)17:38
nlsthznI be ok17:38
charlhi nlsthzn 17:51
kbmonkeyhello o/17:52
tal0nlol thanks Kilos 17:58
Kilosyw17:58
kbmonkeywhat's up?17:59
Kiloshi kbmonkey he wants to add a progress bar to apt-get upgrade18:00
nlsthznhello all... sorry @ work so it goes helter skelter for PC time :p18:02
Kilosnp18:02
kbmonkeyit already shows progress in % yeah?18:04
kbmonkeymaybe aptitude shows one18:05
tal0nmy question earlier was more of a learning exercise... learning shell scripting and want to add progress bars while the script is running something that takes a while like copying / updating etc18:09
kbmonkeyyes that is an interesting topic tal0n 18:11
kbmonkeyfor your own scripts I assume18:11
kbmonkeyfor updating screens often the curses library is very nice18:12
kbmonkeyit has controls like inputs and progress bars, for cli18:12
tal0nyes kbmonkey for my own18:12
kbmonkeythere is a python curses wrapper that I use18:12
tal0nnot familiar with curses but will check it out thanks!18:13
kbmonkeyfor bash see the package 'dialog'18:14
kbmonkeyor python-dialog for the wrapper18:14
tal0nthanks!18:14
kbmonkeyyw tal0n - you can see its web page at http://invisible-island.net/dialog/dialog.html :)18:16
tal0nty. also, lets say for example i want to make  script that checks for updates and then does x if there are updates  and y if not..?18:20
kbmonkeythere is some apt-foo command that returns updates available tal0n - I cant recall what it is, an optional package you have to install first18:23
kbmonkeyI think ubuntu used to install it by default as part of its update manager18:24
kbmonkeynot sure if ubuntu still uses that though18:24
tal0ncool tx will do some more googling ;)18:25
kbmonkeynot sure how far you will get wrapping up apt, never thought of that before!18:25
tal0nlol was the first example that came to mind... just trying to learn some bash scripting basics18:26
kbmonkeyI may have that line in an old conky config somewhere... lets see18:26
kbmonkeyoh lol, okay I see18:26
tal0nhave some time to kill at work ;)18:27
kbmonkeythat is actually a bit beyond bash basics, you might have a harder time to do that :)18:27
kbmonkeybut not impossible18:27
tal0nah. a bit ambitious then?18:27
tal0nlol18:27
* nlsthzn smacks bash that turns around and bash's nlsthzn18:28
tal0nahaha18:28
kbmonkeyoh you are in luck , i found an old script uses apt-check18:29
kbmonkeypackage update-notifier contains the apt-check command ;)18:30
tal0nawesome!18:31
tal0ntx18:31
kbmonkeythis was my script http://pastebin.com/vnJrMumD18:32
tal0nwhat is $U?18:33
kbmonkeya variable. it stores the result of the apt-check output18:34
tal0nlol my bad, i see you defined it just before ;) 18:35
tal0nand the     2>&1   ?18:36
kbmonkeyoh that? that is magic. lol18:36
kbmonkey2>&1 is bash redirection18:36
tal0nhaha! 18:37
kbmonkeyI found that from this here document - http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/io-redirection.html18:37
Kiloseish tal0n you jumping in on the deap end18:37
Kilosdeep too18:37
Kiloshows kbmonkey ?18:38
tal0nlol18:38
kbmonkeyyou can change where output or errors redirect to ;)18:38
tal0nthat looks like a guide that i can use. thanks kbmonkey!18:38
kbmonkeyso 'ls 1>/dev/null' will send the output to binary null space, so nothing prints ;p18:39
kbmonkeyoh tal0n you might even like the beginners guide!18:39
kbmonkeyhttp://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html18:39
kbmonkeyI worked through much of that, how I learn the most XD18:40
tal0nmaybe thats a better start lol18:40
tal0nwill keep me busy ;)18:40
kbmonkeyit sure does! I go back to that often ;)18:41
kbmonkeyyes Kilos it is like a very deep pool, with penguins and things18:41
Kiloslol18:41
kbmonkeyand monkeys18:42
tal0nhaha18:42
* nlsthzn will be back18:50
Kilosi go crash now. night all. sleep tight18:51
kbmonkeyah nite kilos18:52
kbmonkeyoh man I have so much to learn about networking!18:52
kbmonkeyit hurts my brain sometimes18:52
tal0ncheers Kilos18:54
tal0nyes but very interesting (networking)18:58
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