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g0nz0wBeldar: thanks, I'm going to wipe peppermint and load ubuntu on this machine to see if that will fix me00:00
Xcytre /q00:00
waykoolis super sa,e as WIN key00:01
darkc0derHi all, I seem to be having an issue on my windows partition for my wireless card. I'm running XUBUNTU 13.10/WIn7 64 bit. My wireless was working absolutely fine on Windows, but I changed some things on my Linux partition due to very slow wifi. I was reading stuff of this place --> http://www.unixmen.com/resolve-slow-connexion-when-using-wifi-in-ubuntu-1104-natty-narwhal/#sthash.YBiyplyp.dpuf  If anyone can help.. thanks.00:01
HelasraizamYes, they're the same waykool00:02
palanhello i am trying to install broadcom wifi driver on 13.10 and i dont know which version of debian i am running so i can follow the instructions00:02
Beldarg0nz0w, That might do it, ubuntu has larger and better support in my opinion.00:02
waykoolmerci00:02
Helasraizampdp00:02
Beldarpalan, debian has it's own channel, this is ubuntu support.00:03
palanBeldar, don't you know what version of Debian Ubuntu 13.10 runs?00:03
Beldarpalan, Just confirming you are running ubuntu 13.10, not sure why you would mention debian if so.00:04
HelasraizamEven with Bumblebee installed, login leads to a black screen.  Any diagnostics I can run to see what's wrong more specifically while I'm in bash?00:04
k1l_palan: there is no version of debian in ubuntu00:04
Beldarpalan, There is no such thing as a debian ubuntu per-say.00:04
Beldar!broadcom | palan00:04
ubottupalan: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx00:04
palanbeldar, thank you. i followed that link last night and i have been unable to complete the process00:05
Beldarpalan, Cool, just in detail if you can share what you have done so far and any problems or errors to the channel00:07
palanBeldar,Ok im just taking a look at it again00:07
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Beldarpalan, Be sure to identify the actual card here as well, running lspci in the terminal will show you the broadcom card.00:08
shawn1963Do we have anyone here that can point to the pinguy support channel?00:08
palanbeldar, thanks thats the command i was looking up00:08
darkc0derBeldar, You got a second bud?00:09
palan#pinguy ?00:09
rostamHI I would like upon ssh to my ubuntu 12.04, the /etc/profile to be sourced, is there a way to configured this on any login? thx00:09
shawn1963ubuntu derivative00:09
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v0latil3i need help with key bindings. im using cinnamon 2 with ubuntu 13.10. i cant use the alt button in counter strike. when i press and and left/right click it doesnt shoot. i cant find what is taking the focus away from CS00:10
v0latil3i tried changing gnome settings and cinnamon settings00:11
v0latil3im not sure what the problem is00:11
shawn1963can someone here help a noobie out with a root password problem?00:13
v0latil3you cant have the root password00:13
shawn1963hehe00:13
v0latil3its a secret only i know00:13
shawn1963I know I forgot it.  Can u at least give me a hint :-)00:14
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shawn1963I know it has some letters and numbers.00:14
v0latil3idk probably do sudo passwd if thats possible00:15
palanbeldar, ok so i have BCM4313 and on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx it says I can do either the wl or brcmsmac drivers. wl gives two options, bcmwl-kernel-source, which i tried and ddidn't fix the problem, and  broadcom-sta , the instructions for which i wasn't able to comprehend. I also couldn't understand the i00:15
palannstructions for the brcmsmac drivers00:15
v0latil3why do you need it00:15
v0latil3i dont know mine00:15
jrib!root | shawn196300:15
ubottushawn1963: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo00:15
shawn1963oooohhhhh durrrrrr00:16
shawn1963thanks00:16
davezciaoo00:16
HelasraizamWait what the heck?  Did that bot take the input "root" and connect to Shawn losing his pw??  That seems awful specific for a keyword as general as "root"00:16
davezok it's work00:17
v0latil3im using cinnamon 2 with ubuntu 13.10. i cant use the alt button in counter strike. when i press and and left/right click it doesnt shoot. i cant find what is taking the focus away from CS00:17
davezeaheah i hope unity will end early00:17
shawn1963so there is a "root" password or not?00:17
v0latil3yes there is00:17
v0latil3just dont use it00:17
DodguWhat is the responsibility Canonical?00:18
k1l_!root | shawn196300:18
ubottushawn1963: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo00:18
v0latil3its technically not impossible though00:18
Helasraizamv0latil3, did you remove the key binding http://askubuntu.com/questions/122209/how-do-i-modify-or-disable-the-huds-use-of-the-alt-key ?00:18
v0latil3that is for unity00:18
Dodgu?00:18
davezyeee of course.. but seems to me just a little bit to much  " apple"  u know XD00:18
v0latil3and i dont even see the option00:18
Dodguhey?00:19
v0latil3i turned that off in CCSM00:19
palanhello00:19
davezhola00:19
davezyou see what i write=00:19
v0latil3its some kind of shortcut that has <alt> + <mouse1> or something like that00:19
DodguWhat is the responsibility Canonical?00:19
davez?00:19
Helasraizamoic00:19
v0latil3Dodgu, what do you even mean by that?00:19
davezyou can see what i write?00:19
v0latil3davez, no i cant see00:20
davezeaheha thanks and sorry :)00:20
v0latil3Helasraizam, how would i find what is taking alt + mouse1?00:20
HelasraizamFor me that moves the windows around00:21
Helasraizambut alt+mouse2 doesn't do anything00:21
DodguI'm making a little robot now and will install Ubuntu on it.00:21
adamsilverwhat do you guys think about System 76 laptops?00:21
Helasraizammaybe http://askubuntu.com/questions/118151/how-do-i-disable-window-move-with-alt-left-mouse-button-in-gnome-shell ?00:22
v0latil3i have dont that00:22
HelasraizamIf you alt+click and drag it doesn't do anything?00:22
DodguSoon the robot begins to kill people, and Canonical will be responsible for this?00:23
Dodguyes?00:23
v0latil3Helasraizam, no nothing00:23
v0latil3Helasraizam, it used to drag the window but not any more00:23
Helasraizamoh you disabled that too00:23
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HelasraizamThat would have been my suggestion :)00:23
v0latil3hmm00:25
v0latil3what is the meta key00:25
v0latil3KB layout says alt is also a meta key00:25
Tex_Nick13.10, gnome fallback/flashback de ... my hyperlinks in several apps (XChat, Libre Office Calc & couple others) no longer work as usual ... when i try to open a hyperlink, it just opens a new firefox window with my default home page (www.google.com) ... if i change my default browser to Chrome ... the hyperlinks open just fine ... any suggestions ?00:27
deusrhelp-me!! "DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)"00:28
deusrwhen you plug in the iphone and ipad this message appears00:28
v0latil3so dont plug in your iphone, or get a driver for it00:29
v0latil3what distro are you using00:30
v0latil3can i just entirely disable shortcuts in game?00:31
deusrv0latil3, ubuntu 13.10 and elementaryOS00:31
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veexafter doing a autoremove, ubuntu fails to boot. i tried going into recovery mode to clean packages, but that fails. when the system boots, it gives me an initctl event ctl faile.d what can cause this?00:39
coventryI have a 12.04 system I am thinking of upgrading.  "update-manager -d" gives me the option to upgrade directly to 14.04.  Is this safe, and if not how should I go through the canonical upgrade path (12.04->12.10->13.04->13.10, I presume)?00:39
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noname071896lol00:40
veexanyone?00:40
noname071896^that was a test00:40
noname071896you passed00:40
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zorw#Ubuntu-bug-trackers00:41
v0latil3this really sucks00:41
v0latil3real reason gaming on linux isnt good00:41
veexcan i use iwconfig to put in a username and password for a network?00:41
coventryOh well, it's a snapshotted vbox.  The worst case is not so bad.00:42
* coventry takes the plunge00:42
noname071896when i try to launch dota 2, it claims to be missing some dependencies, but all of the listed dependencies are in the /bin/ folder. any solutions?00:42
newguy1029Hi, I need help resolving dependencies. I'm trying to install libcurl4-gnutls-dev on 12.04 but there are unmet dependecies. Please help. Thank you.00:42
beandogo.O00:42
beandogupgrading to an unsupported beta release is not so bad??00:42
beandogokay then00:42
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v0latil3noname071896, how do you deal with keyboard shortcuts while playing that?00:42
apb1963I would like to have mail sent to the "nobody" user instead go to root.  I added the alias to /etc/aliases and ran "newaliases" yet nothing changed, mail still goes to "nobody"00:42
apb1963any ideas on that?00:43
v0latil3i am playing counter strike, all sorts of button combos minimize/close/move windows and other stuff00:43
noname071896v0latil3, i just press them, i don't know00:43
coventrybeandog: I'll back off to the snapshot if I don't like it.00:43
noname071896they are in the settings00:43
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newguy1029Please can anyone help with broken dependencies? Or tell me where I can find help?00:45
Kryto01I love my Ubuntu200:45
noname071896newguy, do you know what the dependencies are?00:45
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imeonI search someone for broke the password that have create in a small program, if someone interested contact me at... imeon.1er@gmail.com... thanks!!00:46
newguy1029noname071896: Yes. This is the message... libcurl4-gnutls-dev : Depends: libldap2-dev but it is not going to be installed00:46
Kryto01we'd rather have a pig in a poke than a poke in a pig, love myubuntu200:46
noname071896newguy1029, can you install it manually?00:46
newguy1029noname071896: Do you mean copy the files manually?00:47
fedgalaxyHello, how do i remove all traces of Wine. When I switch my interface back to ubuntu classic, under the main menu I can see that wine still exist somewhere (im running 12.04 LTS).i wanted to make sure that Wine is completely removed from everything even in cache00:48
thiebaudefedgalaxy, did you purge it in the terminal00:48
thiebaude?00:48
noname071896newguy1029, no i mean sudo apt-get install packagename. do you know the package name?00:48
REDBOIIhii folks sup00:49
newguy1029noname071896: That is what I tried and received the error message00:49
Beldarfedgalaxy, If you have purged wine open home hit ctrl-h to un-hide and delete the wine folders hidden.00:49
fedgalaxythiebaude, i did00:49
thiebaudeok00:49
noname071896newguy1029: do you know the name of the package it depends on?00:50
newguy1029noname071896: To be specific, i typed... sudo apt-get install libcurl4-gnutls-dev00:50
fedgalaxyBeldar, ok i will do it. maybe wine has other files names00:50
HelasraizamWhen I log in I just see a black screen in Ubuntu 13.1000:51
newguy1029noname071896: I also tried sudo apt-get install libldap2-dev , but there is a broken dependency there too00:51
Beldarfedgalaxy, I believe it is in all folders with wine in the name00:51
noname071896newguy1029: try sudo apt-get install libldap2-dev and then try installing your package00:51
fedgalaxyBledar, Yes I found the hidden folder under Home dir, Thank yuou00:52
REDBOIIsup00:52
Beldarfedgalaxy, YOu can search with wine in home as well, just have it set as not hiding.00:52
fedgalaxyBeldar, Yes I found the hidden folder under Home dir, Thank yuou00:52
noname071896newguy1029: nevermind, i just saw your message00:52
newguy1029noname071896: sudo apt-get install libldap2-dev gives "libldap-2.4-2 (= 2.4.28-1.1ubuntu4) but 2.4.28-1.1ubuntu4.3 is to be installed"00:52
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REDBOIIHERES THE NEWS ALL OF YOU JUST GOT HACKED BY THE ONE N ONLII00:53
Beldarhehe, if I was hacked it would be a lonely dusty find of nothing.00:54
fedgalaxyI totally removed CUPS because i couldnt close the default listening port, does it make my system not good?00:54
noname071896newguy1029: that is weird, best i can tell, it is trying to tell you that there is a more recent version of libdap, but that's just my own translation and it could be wrong. i'm stumped00:55
newguy1029noname071896: thank you for trying. do you know where i might find some help?00:56
VilliskaI installed the "Calibri" font from Google on my Ubuntu 13.10 and it made a lot of fonts look really messed up. However, I can't find it in the /usr/share/fonts or /usr/local/share/fonts or even the ~./.fonts folders. I have no idea where else to search for it to remove the fonts I installed.00:56
VilliskaMy reason of wanting to remove the font is because it looks deformed on Ubuntu and I don't know how to fix that either.00:57
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noname071896newguy1029: i'd say just keep trying to find somebody more knowledgeable than me XD. to be honest all of my computer skill has been poking around and trying things. It seems a daunting task, but i'm sure if you try to test some things and put in different codes, you can solve the problem yourself. Good Luck!00:58
REDBOIIhi im back sorry bout that pc typing issues00:58
newguy1029noname071896: thank you00:58
REDBOIIkk00:58
bazhangREDBOII, did you have an actual ubuntu support question?00:59
REDBOIIyes00:59
REDBOIIhow do i add a package when it keeps on trippin00:59
bazhang!details | REDBOII01:00
ubottuREDBOII: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."01:00
VilliskaI installed the "Calibri" font from Google on my Ubuntu 13.10 and it made a lot of fonts look really messed up. However, I can't find it in the /usr/share/fonts or /usr/local/share/fonts or even the ~./.fonts folders. I have no idea where else to search for it to remove the fonts I installed.01:00
VilliskaMy reason of wanting to remove the font is because it looks deformed on Ubuntu and I don't know how to fix that either.01:00
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Guest75974Villiska: how did you install the font?  In the software center or the terminal?01:01
VilliskaNeither. I downloaded the .ttf and used the install button when you click it in the previewer01:01
REDBOIIIm runin unbuntu version 2.30.2 and when im installing a package (debain) it works for a bit then frezzess and dnt start again01:01
bazhangREDBOII, that is not a valid ubuntu version01:02
REDBOIIbazhang. wat01:02
REDBOIIthis is wat it says01:02
bazhangREDBOII, there is not a version 2.30.2 of ubuntu01:02
VilliskaAny ideas Guest75974?01:03
REDBOIIAre you sure01:03
REDBOIIi think this  is wierd01:03
Guest75974Gnome 2.30.2 was last Gnome released under v2.  Probably his mistake01:03
bazhang!version | REDBOII01:04
ubottuREDBOII: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »01:04
HelasraizamAnyone know how to troubleshoot a blackscreen on login?01:04
VilliskaIs it possible to do a system scan for a certain file so I can remove it on Ubuntu 13.10?01:04
bazhang!nomodeset | Helasraizam01:04
ubottuHelasraizam: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter01:04
REDBOIIMy version is 10.04.301:04
HelasraizamThanks Villiska, but my grub alreadyhas nomodeset01:05
REDBOIISorry bout tht01:05
Helasraizam(I added it manually); still black on login01:05
CyanBlobVilliska, you can try locate "FILENAME"01:05
VilliskaThat was baz not me01:05
Helasraizammb thx01:05
bazhang!eolupgrades | REDBOII01:05
ubottuREDBOII: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades01:05
HelasraizamBaz, thanks, but I have nomodeset already enabled in grub--still a black screen01:06
VilliskaCyanBlob, so just "locate filename" in the terminal? I don't have the exact file name01:06
VilliskaI'm new01:06
Guest75974Villiska: locate filename should work01:06
fedgalaxyHow to show hidden files/folders everywhere on Ubuntu, how do i make it a by default.?01:07
CyanBlobWhat are you lookking for? Locate can return locations based on a partial name01:07
VilliskaCyanBlob, want me to paste my problem here again or PM you it?01:07
VilliskaIt's driving me crazy01:07
CyanBlobVilliska, I might not be too much more helpful than what I already said01:08
CyanBlobVilliska, but go ahead01:08
VilliskaWell it's sort of unrelated.01:08
VilliskaI installed the "Calibri" font from Google on my Ubuntu 13.10 and it made a lot of fonts look really messed up. However, I can't find it in the /usr/share/fonts or /usr/local/share/fonts or even the ~./.fonts folders. I have no idea where else to search for it to remove the fonts I installed.01:09
VilliskaMy reason of wanting to remove the font is because it looks deformed on Ubuntu and I don't know how to fix that either.01:09
VilliskaA website required Calibri so I installed it01:09
REDBOIIHello, this is wat im getting can you help http://0.0.0.0:8080/5cI8bjc01:10
jswagnerVilliska: installing a single font shouldn't change the behavior of other fonts01:11
Guest75974Villiska: Installing one font should not cause all your other fonts to look strange.  Did you install anything else recently other than just the font?01:11
REDBOIIi also got  this http://192.168.2.6:8080/5cI8bjc01:11
VilliskaNope. I just installed like 5 Calibri fonts (bold, mono, etc)01:11
VilliskaThen I refreshed the page and I had the fonts01:11
Villiskabut they look deformed01:11
VilliskaIt didn't change all of my fonts01:11
CyanBlobVilliska, I found this online. It may be a solution http://goo.gl/eK7dOP01:11
Villiskajust the websites that use Calibri in their CSS01:11
CyanBlobBut I'm not sure. I've never had that problem before01:12
VilliskaAll I need to do is locate the font file and remove it. But, I'm not able to find it in the typical font folders01:12
Villiskais my only problem really01:12
Guest75974did you try "locate calibri" in the terminal?01:12
VilliskaYeah, it just brought me back to my hostname01:12
Villiskaor whatever01:12
jswagnerVilliska: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts01:12
VilliskaNothing showed01:12
jswagnerVilliska: look under the 'Manually' section, many additional paths are located there01:12
VilliskaThanks, I'll have a look.01:13
Guest75974Valliska: You mention calibri is a google font?  I can't find it in google fonts.01:15
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VilliskaOh, jswagner it looks like they only named the 3 locations I said in my original comment01:16
VilliskaThe font file isn't there though which is what is confusing me01:16
REDBOIIVilliska y arent you talking to me01:16
VilliskaBecause you're trolling and I'm focusing on my own problem01:16
jswagneryou checked ~/.fonts01:16
jswagner?01:16
VilliskaYes.01:16
VilliskaThere isn't any fonts there at all01:16
VilliskaJust an empty folder called Library01:16
newguy1029Could anyone else help me with 12.04 broken dependencies for libcurl4-gnutls-dev?01:16
VilliskaAll of my fonts are in /usr/share/fonts, but I can't find the Calibri ones in there.01:16
jswagnerYou installed using the GNOME Font Viewer?01:16
VilliskaUm, I think so.01:16
VilliskaI clicked the .ttf file and it opened up a previewer01:16
Villiskaand I installed from there.01:16
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades   <--- REDBOII01:16
jswagnerrun 'gnome-font-viewer' and confirm that is the right application you used01:16
jswagnerGuest75974: it's a Windows 7 font, not a Google font.01:16
VilliskaNo, I googled the font and downloaded it from a website from there is what I meant. Sorry, Guest7597401:16
bazhangupgrade to a supported version per that link REDBOII01:16
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Villiskajswagner,  I'm using Font Viewer that lists all of your fonts, and I can see the Calibri fonts here but I can't see them in the Font Manager01:18
VilliskaIt's weird.01:18
VilliskaI can't uninstall or locate the directory from the font viewer though.01:18
HelasraizamJust a suggestion, open the calibri file again.  Maybe instead of install it'll say uninstall?01:19
VilliskaIt doesn't. It just says "Installed" and it's blanked out so you can't click it.01:19
jswagnerVilliska: open a terminal, run 'gnome-font-viewer'.  is this the same program that opened when you previewed/installed the font?01:19
VilliskaWhat is the full command jswagner?01:20
VilliskaI'm very new to Linux01:20
jswagnergnome-font-viewer01:20
jswagner1) Open Terminal.01:20
jswagner2) Type 'gnome-font-viewer'.01:20
CyanBlobVilliska, if you open /etc/fonts/fonts.conf, it has a directory section that will show the directories where the font could be installed. Have you looked in all those directories for the font?01:20
VilliskaOh, I'll look.01:20
REDBOIIUmmm I need sum help01:21
bazhangREDBOII, then upgrade to a supported version01:22
k1l!details | REDBOII01:22
ubottuREDBOII: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."01:22
bazhangREDBOII, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades  <--------- read the link01:22
bazhangREDBOII, your version is End Of Life, upgrade it01:22
VilliskaYeah, it's not in any of them CyanBlob01:23
VilliskaHow odd..01:23
REDBOIIok thanks01:23
VilliskaThere's no way to just search my entire system for a file or something? A program?01:24
VilliskaIf I could just type "Calibri" it'd bring up 4-5 results that I could just delete01:25
CyanBlobVilliska, just to double check, "locate calibri" returns nothing? What about "locate -i calibri"?01:25
VilliskaCyanBlob,01:26
Villiskajosh@desktop:~$ locate calibri01:26
Villiskajosh@desktop:~$ locate -i calibri01:26
Villiskajosh@desktop:~$01:26
FloodBot1Villiska: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:26
VilliskaNothing happens01:26
VilliskaOh, sorry01:26
VilliskaCyanBlob,  did you get my messages? I got the floodwarning by accident01:29
adamuHello01:30
CyanBlobVilliska, yes I got them01:30
CyanBlobI'm doing some Googling01:30
VilliskaOh okay thank you very much01:30
CyanBlobThe only other solution I can find is to disable bitmapping for Cleartype fonts01:31
metrixI installed Ubuntu and can ping google.com, but cannot ping my local servers. Example pinging dev.lan.  I have been running Debian stable for several years, did something change in Ubuntu with local DNS?01:32
CyanBlobIf you create a file called .fonts.conf in you home directory, and then paste the code from http://pastebin.com/d6qaYzfk into it, save the file, then log out and then back in your font may render properly, removing the need for you to delete the font at least01:33
vee88i keep trying to dhcpc wlan0, but it takes too long and fails. just wondering if anyone knew why.01:36
rizqibintangmau tanya ni01:36
rizqibintangCommand 'lesspipe' is available in the following places01:37
rizqibintang * /bin/lesspipe01:37
rizqibintang * /usr/bin/lesspipe01:37
rizqibintangThe command could not be located because '/usr/bin:/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.01:37
rizqibintanglesspipe: command not found01:37
rizqibintangCommand 'dircolors' is available in '/usr/bin/dircolors'01:37
FloodBot1rizqibintang: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:37
rizqibintanghow come back terminal normal01:37
VilliskaCyanBlob,  the problem with that was that I already have a .fonts.conf file and it has stuff written in it so I didn't touch it.01:37
VilliskaI mean, when I installed the font, it must have stored a file somewhere for the font to work...I didn't think it'd be this hard to find it or something01:38
VilliskaThat's crazy01:38
CyanBlobYea, I agree01:38
rizqibintanghelp me please01:38
CyanBlobI'm not sure where else to look for it01:38
jp-is there any way to get a block cursor such in Gnome Terminal for all text input fields?01:39
CyanBlobAre you positive that you downloaded calibri, and not something else on accident?01:39
vee88no matter what i do, wlan0 will not get an ip address.01:39
VilliskaYes CyanBlob  because I can see the fonts in my font viewer program01:39
Villiskabut it doesn't tell me the directory it's in or an uninstall option01:39
rizqibintanggyus,,,, how came back terminal normal01:39
rizqibintangrizqibintang@ubuntu:~$01:40
vee88my schools network is an open wifi. so i went into recovery mode, used iwconfig wlan0 essid "school name" and when i try to dhclient wlan0, i get a message saying it took too long to connect01:40
CyanBlobrizqibintang, please explain your problem01:40
rizqibintangCommand 'lesspipe' is available in the following places01:41
rizqibintang * /bin/lesspipe01:41
rizqibintang * /usr/bin/lesspipe01:41
rizqibintangThe command could not be located because '/usr/bin:/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.01:41
rizqibintanglesspipe: command not found01:41
rizqibintangCommand 'dircolors' is available in '/usr/bin/dircolors'01:41
FloodBot1rizqibintang: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:41
rizqibintangThe command could not be located because '/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.01:41
rizqibintangsed: command not found01:41
rizqibintangCommand 'ls' is available in '/bin/ls'01:41
rizqibintangThe command could not be located because '/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.01:41
FloodBot1rizqibintang: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:41
rizqibintangls: command not found01:41
vee88cant someone please, for the love of sweet baby jesus, help me get wifi up on this computer. im at school with no computer and a final tow ork on lol01:42
rizqibintanghelp me,,, gyus,,,, how came back my terminal normal,,,01:43
buuvee88: Can you manually assign a specific ip? And if you're at school, go bother the IT department01:43
imeonvee88 did you try to make a research for the driver of your wifi card?01:44
vee88buu i dont think i can. also, the IT department isn't very good with linux. the guy i asked said we dont work or support it01:44
CyanBlobrizqibintang, try typing "export PATH=/usr/bin:/bin"01:44
vee88imeon i have an atheros card01:44
vee88ifconfig shows my wlan001:44
Beldarvee88, You might note that this is a worldwide channel crossing cultures and social systems. A reference to a spiritual might offend some and is not really a channel friendly comment.01:45
vee88Beldar:i apologize. i hope i didn't offend anyone.01:45
vee88so, how can i get this network up?01:46
vee88we have one thats a secured connection, but that requires a username and password, though i dont know how i can connect ot it01:47
rizqibintangthank01:47
CyanBlobrizqibintang, did that solve your problem?01:47
rizqibintangcan't gyus01:47
rizqibintangwhere you text input in my PC01:47
CyanBlobIn a terminal01:47
imeonatheros is pci card?01:47
rizqibintangcan't interminal01:47
JordanJ2Hello, I am looking to use Ubuntu on a bridged network in a vmware vm to have 2 seperate connections. When I switch it to bridged the connection just keeps connecting. (Ubuntu 12.04 <- Guest Host -> Windows 8 x64)01:48
rizqibintangthank gyus....01:49
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imeonvee88 what version of ubuntu do you have?01:53
vee88imeon the newest one01:54
vee8813.1001:54
imeontry to connect with invisible network and enter coords for wpa personnal... the name of the secured network and the key of the network...01:54
vee88imeon:the school network uses eduroam if that helps.01:54
doctorZeusJordanJ2 details on "keeps connecting?"  Where are you seeing it do that.  And have you reviewed the host for supernumerary network protection apps like firewall, iptables, peerblock, etc.01:55
vee88imeon:there are no invisible networks. there really isn't much01:55
imeontry 12.10 version of ubuntu i had the same problem with 13.10 version01:56
vee88i cant downgrade01:56
vee88i dont have anything to install01:56
imeoninstall with bootable usb key?01:57
vee88imeon:i dont have one on me01:57
JordanJ2doctorZeus, I have, it will stay on the "connecting" then say "disconnected" try again etc01:57
vee88woot!!! i got the network to ocnnect!01:59
technickulhi :)01:59
imeonvee88 did you have dvd-writer?02:00
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HelasraizamI installed Ubuntu 13.10 and have nomodeset in the grub, but I get a black screen upon login02:00
Kane_HartHello, I was wondering if anyone here knows much about Containers and if I could ask a couple simple basic questions that I'm a bit iffy on it when I did some research.02:00
doctorZeusit works using NAT?02:00
doctorZeusis it wireless?02:00
JordanJ2Yes02:00
JordanJ2No02:00
twbDeos canonical still do that thing where they snail-mail you a copy of the install media?02:00
nespikNo they don't.02:00
ainxubuntu with KDE so f*** powerful :D02:00
twbAw.02:01
imeonvee88  good02:01
doctorZeusthat's weird dude.  I would check again for network protection on the host02:01
doctorZeuswhat antivirus is host running?02:02
JordanJ2Avast02:02
JordanJ2Keeps telling me it's borked thought.. but that's for ##windows02:02
doctorZeusand you dive bombed Avast to ensure there's no network protection/firewalls02:03
Beldar!language | ainx02:04
ubottuainx: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.02:04
JordanJ2Yes02:04
JordanJ2It does not have a firewall02:05
edoceo_webI'm trying to get Perl + DBI to work, I've done `apt-get install libdbd-pgsql` - but I still see that DBI is not installed when I run the script02:05
ainxsorry02:05
ainx:)02:05
edoceo_webIt shows Can't locate DBI.pm in @INC - so how does one do DBI on Ubuntu?02:06
imeonedoceo_web use the logitec02:08
yeats!find perl dbi02:08
ubottudbi is not a valid distribution: extras, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, saucy, saucy-backports, saucy-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable02:08
yeats!info libdbi-perl02:09
ubottulibdbi-perl (source: libdbi-perl): Perl Database Interface (DBI). In component main, is optional. Version 1.627-1 (saucy), package size 854 kB, installed size 2148 kB02:09
yeatsedoceo_web: 'sudo apt-get install libdbi-perl'?02:09
edoceo_webI've installed libdbi-perl, apt-get reported no errors but DBI does not work02:09
buuedoceo_web: How many Perls do you have?02:09
FreederHello - I have terminal access to a server that I just plugged a firewire HD into, but I don't see it mounted anywhere... where should I look to see more info? dmesg doesn't show any recent events02:09
edoceo_webOne02:09
edoceo_web5.14 , I'm on Precise02:10
buuedoceo_web: What does this say: perl -MDBI\ 999902:10
edoceo_webCan't locate DBI.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .). BEGIN failed--compilation aborted.02:10
yeatsedoceo_web: 'locate DBI'02:10
buuedoceo_web: and where does dpkg -L libdbi-perl; say it put DBI.pm ?02:10
edoceo_webWTF, it says that package is not installed02:11
nicknackso im attempting to repair some broken packages since ubuntu failed to reboot after a autoremove, however, i noticed some of the files its downloading aren't even installed.02:11
BONG_IT_good day i have a problem in browsing mozilla firefox02:11
nicknacki ran a sudo apt-get -f intall02:12
edoceo_webBut the apt-get installed didn't report any errors02:12
BONG_IT_is their any problem in yahoo.com cant check my emails02:12
nicknacklibreoffice, for example, is not installe.d yet its download it it02:12
Beldarnicknack, Pastebin the errors from that command and a update upgrade from the terminal, and give some details.02:12
buuedoceo_web: I just use cpan to install perl modules..02:12
yeatsedoceo_web: on my 13.10 system, it's installed at /usr/lib/perl5/DBI02:13
imeonBONG_IT what's your problem with Firefox?02:13
edoceo_webyea, but CPAN is the wrong way to do it when your distrbution has apacakge manager, so says every Linux user I've met since 199902:13
Beldarnicknack, What release is this and desktop?02:13
yeatsedoceo_web: yeah, I'd stick with APT where possible02:13
buuedoceo_web: I beg to differ, but it depends on what you're trying to do.02:13
edoceo_webSo, here's the issue: libdbd-pgsql can be installed but doesn't bring in libdbi-perl02:13
nicknackbeldar this is ubuntu minimal 13.10. i have no browser to paste it to paste bin02:14
buuThat is a little odd.02:14
edoceo_webYea, I'm just trying to keep the machine maintainable02:14
buuBut dbh::pgsql doesn't always require dbi. Just most of the time.02:14
BONG_IT_everytime i browse in yahoo specially in mail always page cannot display02:14
Beldarnicknack, So just the base install no desktop?02:14
buu*dbd02:14
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nicknackbeldar i had pantheon, but after an auto update, it doesn't boot at all. so im trying to repair the files02:14
buuedoceo_web: Anyway, apt-get remove --purge libdbi-perl; apt-get install... ?02:15
Beldar!pastbinit | nicknack for pastebins02:15
Beldar!pastebinit | nicknack for pastebins02:15
ubottunicknack for pastebins: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com02:15
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nicknackBeldar:it wont install because of unmet dependencies, and its asking me to do a -f install02:16
GeoI have terminal access to a server that I just plugged a firewire HD into, but I don't see it mounted anywhere... where should I look to see more info? dmesg doesn't show any recent events02:17
edoceo_webI'm good, thanks buu, yeats, - just have to install libdbi-perl before installling libdbd-pgsql02:17
Beldarnicknack, Yes, and I asked for some specific pastebins and gave you a bot notice on doing it from a terminal.02:17
edoceo_webOn Gentoo the DBD-PG package brings in the DBI package, if it's not installed - I expected Ubuntu to do the same - but, whatevs I'm all good now02:17
nicknacki dont mind doing a -f install, but idk why its pulling in things i've never installed02:17
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imeonBONG_IT  maybe yahoo use last version of some web editor like flashplayer and it's why you can't see your mail display, use an other email compt... like gmail02:18
Beldarnicknack, Is pantheon, from a PPA?02:18
doctorZeusJordanJ2 I don't have any more ideas for you.  Are you able to provide any error messages from the guest?   Last time I'll say it heh but I wouldn't rule out security on the host as the issue until I was absolutely certain-- because NAT working bridged not sounds textbook security app issue..I would disable every network/malware/fw/security service I had and try again.  Is there any chance the hostname of guest is same as the host02:19
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HelasraizamIf anyone gets bored, I've got a blackscreen on login just itching to entertain!  [Ubuntu 13.10]02:23
BONG_IT_gmail is ok in firefox also other pc's using windows has no problem in browsing in yahoo only in ubuntu had problem02:23
imeonBONG IT do you have a message to update your flashplayer when you go on youtube?02:25
nicknack2im curious as to how many packages can be broken from just one autoremove. theres like 300mb of stuff it downloaded02:25
Beldarnicknack2, There is no limitation per-say, you have to be aware of dependencies and what you ad or remove.02:28
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nicknack2it looks like it got rid of pantheon too.02:28
nicknack2lets hope it reboots02:29
imeonnicknack2 use bleachbit to clean your RAM02:29
nicknack2nope. after rebooting, when elementary-os should go up, it goes to a black screne.02:29
Beldarnicknack2, Is pantheon from a PPA I see it as part of elemetaryOS02:29
nicknack2i mean pantheon02:29
nicknack2yes, it was working just fine up until i did a clean02:30
Beldarnicknack2, elemetaryOS is not supported here.02:30
nicknack2now it wont boot at all.02:30
Beldarthey have a channel02:30
nicknack2pantheon is a ppa02:30
Beldar!ppa | nicknack202:30
ubottunicknack2: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge02:30
ResQuei just typed "/rm -r /boot/grub", but it also removed "/boot/EFI" can someone please tell me why?02:31
Beldarnicknack2, Just making sure at the least you are aware of what is actually supported.02:31
nicknack2i figured you guys would know what i can do to get the system back up.02:32
Beldarnicknack2, Well I asked for some info and gave you the method on doing so and had to repeat questions so........02:32
nicknack2Beldar: you asked me to install pastebin, and, i was unable to get it to install until i did a -f install first.02:33
nicknack2i shall post it again, once i install it. -f just finihsed02:33
Beldarnicknack2, I doubt I can help, with the info I have now, others may be able to though.02:34
BeldarI would if I felt I could02:34
nicknack2grr. this schools network is a nightmare. now it wont give me an ip02:35
Beldarnicknack2, If it were me I would install another minimal desktop like lxde so that you have one to work from if you need a gui X02:35
imeonyes like xubuntu or lubuntu02:36
nicknack2ill install fluxbox if need be, the system just doesn't boot up pantheon02:37
nicknack2i even tried reinstall pantheon02:37
nicknack2let me get fluxbox going so i can paste bin everything02:38
nicknack2never mind. pantheon force loads itself.02:38
imeonnicknack2 what is your PC P4?02:38
Beldarnicknack2, Cool that makes sense so you can communicate with the channel easily.02:38
imeoni have P4 2ghz with 2gig of RAM and i use lubuntu and i do everything fast02:39
imeonsorry a P4 3ghz02:40
SetiAmonhey i have a weird issue my monitor keeps turning off after about ten minutes or so but i have all power saving features turned off!02:40
imeonSetiAmon look your screensaver option02:41
nicknack2imeon:no im running an i7 lol02:43
imeonhahaha02:44
imeongo with ubuntu02:44
imeonis very stable02:44
BeldarSetiAmon, 12.04?02:45
jribis anyone aware of actively developed eye tracking software for linux (that allows one to control the mouse pointer for example)02:45
Beldarjrib, You would need something to read your eye at the least.02:46
jribBeldar: sure, using a webcam02:46
Beldarjrib, heh I don;t think so, nice dream though.02:47
jribBeldar: see opengazer and gnome-mousetrap.  They're just not actively developed02:47
Beldarget some google glasses02:47
BeldarI will pass but thanks02:47
somsipjrib: http://is.gd/jUGdDU02:47
imeoni know nothing in that kind of eye capting02:48
imeontracking02:48
jribsomsip: thanks, I think there's one in there that shows promise02:48
poxHey chaps, I just got a weird error.  I was running a bunch of flash, display froze so I manually rebooted.  When I tried to login it I entered my password and instead of going to desktop it bumped me back at the login screen.02:49
somsipjrib: Lots of options. I cant vouch for any of them though02:49
poxI fixed the problem by removing /.Xauthority then restarting.  Can someone explain to me what the hell happened?02:49
imeonI search someone for broke the password that have create in a small program, if someone interested contact me at... imeon.1er@gmail.com... thanks!!02:50
nicknack2the people at elementary are not very responsive.02:51
nicknack2sweet lord, what have i done. lol02:51
nicknack2someone how i think this is an xorg related issue02:52
poxI just had one of those too, nick.02:52
poxI dunno what your issue is though.02:53
ResQuehow can i get the original /etc/grub.d and /etc/defaults/grub files?02:53
deezedResQue: maybe boot-repair? guys?02:53
buuResQue: Look in the.deb?02:53
ResQuei thought if i installed the grub2 and grub2-common package i would get them back, but that didnt owrk02:54
nicknack2is there a way to force reinstall the package, all of it, from scratch?02:55
deezedResQue: what exactly did you do?02:55
ResQuedeezed: i deleted them02:55
ResQuedeezed: by them i mean the folder /etc/grub.d/* and /etc/defaults/grub02:55
BeldarResQue, You trying to reinstall from the desktop or a live cd?02:56
imeonnicknack2 you have to erase the package first02:56
deezedyou mean that you were running bash as root and deleted them? why?02:56
ResQueBeldar: from the desktop02:56
ResQuei thought the grub config files would be in the grub2 package, am i wrong?02:57
imeonResQue or with a usb bootable02:57
BeldarResQue, sudo apt-get purge grub grub-common grub-pc && sudo apt-get install grub-common grub-pc02:58
ResQueimeon: i dont understand the question02:58
deezedResQue: did you try to run a 'dpkg-reconfigure -a' ?02:59
imeonsorry that was a complement of Beldar say02:59
lilredhey guys, I enabled OpenVPN tunneling on my server and now it won't answer, which raises all kinds of questions03:00
lilredthe server is an OpenVPN client03:00
ResQuedeezed: now i will try that now03:00
lilreddoes enabling OpenVPN client on a device make it unresponsive to SSH via its non-VPN address?03:00
buulilred: Its possible!03:01
buulilred: Depends on what the vpn server tells its routing table to do03:01
nicknack2i've given up. idk what else i can possibly do to fix this thing.03:01
lilredI wonder if there is a way to enable OpenVPN client without sacrificing local access03:02
ResQueBeldar: thank you, your method worked. i think the first time i tried to remove i used --purge and not just purge would this have done something different?03:03
Beldarnicknack2, I would use ubuntu, I mean like lubuntu then set it up, more support in the end.03:03
deezedlilred: like using vpn just for some tasks?03:03
BeldarResQue, I never use --purge so not really sure03:03
ResQueBeldar: ok, thanks for the help03:04
lilreddeezed: exact;y!03:04
BeldarResQue, No problem.03:04
deezedlilred: ok, like what?03:04
nicknack2Beldar:i dont have anything that i can use to install it!03:04
ResQuedeezed: problem solved, i used Beldar apt-get purge idea. thanks for the time03:04
lilreddeezed: Ideally I'd want the VPN to be available through some virtual network device that I can manually tell my programs to connect to03:04
lilredtorrent client, mainly.03:04
Beldarnicknack2, You said you used a minimal 13.10.03:04
deezedResQue: good!! np03:04
nicknack2i did, but odn thave anything that i can reinstall the system with. and pantheon forces itself to load osmehow03:05
deezedlilred: uhm, I think you can write a script for that03:05
nicknack2idk how03:05
Beldarnicknack2, mini is a net install you can load whatever desktop and on servers etc....03:05
Beldaror*03:05
nicknack2yes i know that, however, i dont have a flash drive or cd to burn it and go through a reinstall03:06
lilreddeezed: any idea what I should put in that script? :)03:06
Beldarnicknack2, Ah, how did you do it this time?03:06
nicknack2i was at home. now im at school03:06
nicknack2i was suppose to ge ta paper going, but that didn't work03:06
deezedlilred: you could tell it that the torrent program is a variable03:06
Beldarnicknack2, If you have  grub boot you can load the iso to it.03:06
deezedlilred: and if that variable is running; then use vpn; done03:06
deezedlilred: else; dont use it03:07
deezeddone03:07
deezedfi03:07
lilreddon't you think there's a way to use VPN concurrently with my other stuff?03:07
Beldarnicknack2, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot03:07
Beldar!ppa-purge | nicknack2 remove the ppa and install a desktop03:08
ubottunicknack2 remove the ppa and install a desktop: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html03:08
deezedlilred: try check it up here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1820884.html03:09
nicknack2Beldar:i shall try to purge it out03:11
deezedlilred: I was reading some other forums and people said that you could run a virtual machine exclusively for this torrent with vpn... i dont know if its the only way, but its one of them at least03:13
nicknack2lets hope it doesn't force elementary on me again03:13
lilreddeezed: oh well, thanks!03:13
nicknack2still trying to load elementary03:13
deezedlilred: you'r welcome03:13
Beldarnicknack2, If this was a mini 13.10 install and you remove the ppa's it should set you to the base install ready for a desktop, if the base is all there.03:14
nicknack2it is a minimal, but its still forcing elementary to install03:14
Beldarnicknack2, You gotta use the ppa-purge though.03:14
nicknack2not install, sorry03:14
nicknack2i did use ppa-purge!03:14
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nicknack2can i setup ubuntu minimal with wpa_supplicant?03:18
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Beldarnicknack2, probably, I have just run it with ethernet though, I am seeing info on the web that suggests you can.03:21
Beldarnicknack2, Basically the base install from the mini is the server install if that helps.03:22
xanguaBeldar: no, it's not03:22
Beldarxangua, I used the term basically not exactly03:23
Beldarxangua, You are welcome to help the user.03:24
xanguajust came03:24
Beldarxangua, A messed up pantheon ppa install from a ppa, using a minimal 13.10 is the decription.03:25
Beldarxangua, Wants a to  setup ubuntu minimal with wpa_supplicant, I gave them them the iso from grub boot, so not sure if this is for the actual install or in lieu of running a new iso load.03:26
BeldarI'm not really a cli master is all, I use a desktop always03:27
Beldarnicknack2, Do you have wifi with the minimal install, it seems you don't?03:29
imeonnicknack if you can with school network try to burn on cd lubuntu installer03:29
imeonfirst and after create a usb ubuntu 13.10 installer03:29
imeonon a usb key03:29
Beldarno cd or usb I believe03:30
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imeon:-(03:31
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imeoninteresting this ubuntu channel03:34
imeoni have pass good moment03:34
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nicknack2Beldar:i have wifi now. i got it up. i know how ot work it with wpa_supplicant. im wonder if the minimal install has wpa_supplicant so i can set it up03:35
imeoni still continue programming03:35
deezedimeon: cool, I'm also trying to do so03:36
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PhatTonyWhat are common linux commands03:37
BeldarPhatTony, sudo get a manual03:38
nicknack2man EVERYTHING03:38
xangua!terminal | PhatTony03:39
ubottuPhatTony: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal03:39
yjwhello03:44
PhatTony#list03:46
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naryfahi03:49
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deezednaryfa: hello03:50
cfhowlettdeezed, greetigns03:50
deezedcfhowlett: hey, hows going?03:51
cfhowlettdeezed, great.   what's your ubuntu issue?03:52
ccmonsterhey, is this where I should go to ask about ubuntu partitino/installation03:52
cfhowlettccmonster, yes.  ask away.03:53
deezedcfhowlett: I actually dont have one.. is just that naryfa has said hi, and I said hello! =) maybe he has one03:53
ccmonstergot an ssd and a 2TB hdd.03:53
ccmonsterI want to install everything but home and the large bin dirs to the ssd.03:53
naryfanope, I came here with hope I'll help somebody lol03:53
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ccmonsteri am currently in the live usb right now03:53
Beldarccmonster, this a dual boot and if so with what and it's release?03:54
ccmonsterit's nothing at the moment, but will be Windows, not sure if I will go windows 8. More likely Win703:54
Beldarccmonster, This a uefi computer, a custom, maily do you have gpt partitioning?03:55
Beldarmainly*03:55
ccmonsterit's custom buit. Not sure about uefi, and what is GPT partitioning03:56
Beldarccmonster, just a partitioning schema with a specific partiton table.03:56
ccmonsterok03:57
ccmonsterim down to use whatever is suggested03:57
Beldarccmonster, Is the live seeing the HD and any partitions if there are any?03:57
BeldarHD and ssd03:57
ccmonsterthe live is seeing the ssd, a different HD (dying, which is why this started in teh first place), and the 2TB drive actually isn't in there at the moment03:58
Beldarccmonster, how big is the ssd?03:59
ccmonsterBeldar: 60GB03:59
Beldarccmonster, Cool, generally if you have windows you want it first on a disc, you plan on it being on the ssd or the 2 tb HD?04:00
yes1Hi all. I'm having a curious network issue, maybe someone can help. When I ping most servers, everything seems fine; no packet loss, good ping reply. But when I use any other services from the same servers, e.g. browse, then I lag from ~200ms to ~2000ms, with a transient packet loss of ~30%. Any idea?04:01
ccmonsteri would say the HD, Beldar04:03
deezedyes1: maybe you are running others process that are using internet as well?04:03
ccmonsteridk, maybe it makes sense to have the SSD as well, IDK04:03
Beldarccmonster, Cool, you can just have ubuntu install to the ssd, without partitioning it, the install will do it and make a swap.04:03
Beldarccmonster, YOU could have windows and ubuntu on the ssd.04:04
yes1deezed: hmm, I haven't checked that.04:04
ccmonsterany snags with doing that Beldar04:04
yes1I will look into this. Thanks04:04
deezedyes1:  maybe a pstree or even a ps aux can help you with that04:05
yes1deezed: I'm doing it right now..04:05
deezedokok04:05
Beldarccmonster, Windows would need two partitions a boot and C, you can just make a ntfa filling up the first part with gparted and have ubuntu install along side in the rest unallocated, so that when you do the windiws install it would be the first partitions.04:06
Beldarntfs*04:06
Beldarccmonster, Windows can with a custom install not have the boot partiton if you just load it to the pre made ntfs.04:07
Beldarccmonster, If any of this is confusing, that is okay, just ask questions and we can walk you through it. ;)04:09
yes1deezed: so far, I'm averaging 5kbit/sec from my wlan. That's about it. The problem has started a few days ago. I've tested from another computer under the same connection, and the problem is similar. Anyhow, I might have to call the ISP, but I think they're "throttling" my data somehow04:10
deezedyes1: they always do that04:10
ccmonsterok, so as a precaution, create a ntfs partition on the ssd04:11
ccmonsterat the beginning04:11
deezedyes1: suddenly, when you are expecting a 10mb connection, you realize its actually 5mb that you are dealing with04:11
yes1deezed: Yeah, I went from 1.2 meg/sec to 12k/sec now...04:12
ccmonsterBeldar: how do i set up the gpt04:12
ccmonsterwhen i go to format its asking for primary and logical etc in the live usb04:12
deezedyes1: lol thats so radical.04:12
yes1deezed: thanks for your help. pstree did show a curious process though. I'll look into that04:12
ccmonsterwhich isn't a feature of gpt, from what I read04:12
PaytonHow do I know what partition is an ubuntu partition?04:13
deezedyes1: ok no problem04:13
Beldarccmonster, Not sure there I don't use gpt, I was coming from a msdos setup as it seemed the ssd was msdos.04:13
PaytonI can't find my ubuntu partition in partition manager xD04:13
SonikkuAmericaPayton: Disks (gnome-disks) will tell you04:13
PaytonSonikkuAmerica: ?04:13
Beldarccmonster, If you made this computer and it is new enough it probably has a uefi setup, but that is out of my area as well.04:14
SonikkuAmericaPayton: Open "Disks" from the Unity dash04:14
ccmonsteri made this computer a few years ago04:15
ccmonsterso, possibly not.04:15
PaytonSonikkuAmerica: I'm trying to find my ubuntu partition in windows..04:15
PaytonSonikkuAmerica: So I can remove it from my other PC04:15
PaytonSonikkuAmerica: So I can have 1 win8 and 1 ubuntu :)04:15
SonikkuAmericaPayton: Oh... Windows wouldn't be able to tell you, because it can't read Ubuntu's default filesystem (ext4) out of the box.04:15
Beldarccmonster, Some like gpt, it seems to have some advantages, I have not used it so I'm a msdos user primarily as far as partition tables and partitions.04:16
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PaytonSonikkuAmerica: Exactly, how can I find the ubuntu partiton? is there any program>04:16
Payton?04:16
deezedPayton: you can run in ubuntu the command 'df'04:17
ccmonsterok, so if i got traditional04:17
ccmonsteri just format it as a logical parition04:17
ccmonsterit (ssd)04:17
Paytondeezed: What would that do?04:17
deezedlist your partition specifications04:18
Beldarccmonster, A logical is inside a extended, if you want windows on there put a ntfs big enough for it and install ubuntu in the rest of the space.04:18
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Paytondeezed: So then I can go back and erase the ubuntu partition on windows?04:18
ccmonsteri cannot choose ntfs from the live usb in installation type04:18
ccmonsterlet me open gparted04:19
deezedPayton: I think so, but the better thing to do is to erase it from one ubuntu itself04:19
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BeldarPayton, YOU stated you would never remove linux yesterday after I spent a long time showing you how per your request.04:19
Paytondeezed: Would It remove the GRUB menu too?04:19
PaytonBeldar: I have two PC's xD04:19
PaytonBeldar: I want one ubuntu one win804:19
PaytonBeldar: For editing :P04:20
BeldarPayton, you were lying yesterday basically I would not believe a word you say.04:20
PaytonBeldar: Okai04:20
PaytonBeldar: End of convo?04:20
deezedah, you want to remove completly your ubuntu from this pc?04:20
Paytondeezed: Yes04:20
deezedso start your pc from a live cd or usb ubuntu04:21
Paytondeezed: Ok04:22
deezedand format everything you have on the ubuntu partitions04:22
deezedwhich you will never see from windows04:22
Paytondeezed: How would I do that?04:22
al_laHey all, looking for help.  I am on 13.04, running upgrade tool for 13.10.  It's completed the steps 'preparing to upgrade' 'setting new software channels' 'getting new packages' and is working on 'installing the upgrades', but in the terminal below it says (after 'setting up ... packages') '... downloading ... flashplugin ..'.  While doing this additional downloading, I believe my internet died, and now that it is back, the window is still s04:23
al_laitting there.  No way to cancel.  Thoughts?04:23
Paytonal_la: Kill the proccess04:23
Paytonal_la: :P04:23
Paytonargh i forgot the command for killing a process04:23
Paytonit eould probably mess it up though...04:24
Beldaral_la, move the window around and make sure no popups are there to start with04:24
deezedPayton: I dont think he has to kill anything04:24
PaytonBeldar Comes to the rescue!04:24
deezedif Beldar is right04:25
al_laNo pop-up windows hidden behind it.  Window is responsive (not hanged), but the command it's executing seems to have been hanged.04:25
waterloo2005hi , why localhost:631 always says my printer status is Paused - "Unplugged or turned off" when I plug my usb printer ? thanks04:25
Paytondeezed: How would I format everything on ubuntu so it uninstalls ubuntu on this PC?04:26
deezedanyway the command to kill the process is killall 'process'04:26
Beldaral_la, Are you backed up per chance stopping the upgrade portion can be problematic at times.04:26
al_laI feel like there's a lot of danger in killing the upgrader halfway through an upgrade...04:26
deezedPayton: you will format from a live cd, not from your ubuntu installed04:26
maltwhy does XDCC SEND ppppppppppppp crash my other router on gamesurge person was pming me that on xchat with ubuntu04:27
al_laBeldar: Yeah, my files are backed up .. it's the installation I'd like to save :(04:27
Paytondeezed: Live CD? I don't have a CD :P04:27
deezedPayton: and remember to format it on nfts04:27
deezedPayton: you can use a usb stick04:27
Beldaral_la, If you stop it run in the terminal sudo apt-get -f install it may finish it.04:27
deezedal_la: and remember also that maybe it can be running from behind, and killing it might mess somethings up04:29
Beldaral_la, It may be that it will not restart and you would reboot and run that from a tty or recovery terminal.04:29
al_laBeldar: the distribution upgrade tool uses apt-get, or do you suggest that only to fix the package it's on now?04:30
Beldarcould rather than would, lets get som other opinions though al_la04:30
deezedal_la: yes, I would not restart it before set the things up04:30
nicknackokay, i got mini iso on a usb, and its installing.04:30
nicknacki was wondering if i can get wpa_supplicant to work04:30
nicknackthe network here is kinda weird04:31
nicknackanyone?04:32
deezedal_la: have you managed to close the window?04:32
deezednicknack: whats the problem with network?04:32
nicknackwell, i have to install from the net, however, the network here uses wpa-epa or something04:33
nicknackso i have to use wpa_supplicant.04:33
al_ladeezed: I see no way to close other than killing the process, so stil open04:33
deezednicknack: but the net is already running ornot?04:33
al_laI wonder what a sudo do-release-upgrade from terminal would do...04:33
ccmonsterwhy wont the gparted stop scanning and actually nshow me something04:34
nicknackdeezed:no there is no network at the moment.04:34
Paytonal_la: Do sudo apt-get update next time :P04:34
al_laPayton: I was updated and upgraded when I started :/04:34
deezedal_la: ok, so try it... maybe if you kill it now, and just try to run the same command with apt-get that you used before, just maybe, it will start from the point it has stopped04:34
Paytondeezed: It will skip over the already installed files :P04:35
deezedal_la: yes, the point is not to update again, 'coz you said it already did, right? you just have to upgrade it again04:35
kcinHi04:35
nicknackis ther ea way that i can use wpa_suppliant to start hte net04:35
Paytonkcin: Hi04:36
deezedPayton: the only way that windows will read the other partition is formating it04:36
kcinI'm adding a drive to a vm for nfs mounting but I don't know what the "default" partition type is04:36
Beldarccmonster, number of possibilities, what all is on the computer drive wise right now?04:36
deezedPayton: so if you dont want to loose any data its better to backup04:36
deezedrsync is a good tool btw04:36
deezedkcin: which os? ubuntu right?04:37
ccmonster_Beldar: nothing04:37
ccmonster_it's the blank ssd, and a blank 2TB hd04:37
al_laPayton,deezed: giving up for the night I think :) thanks for the info04:38
kcinya ubuntu04:38
kcinthough I would hope it applies to most linuxes04:38
Beldarccmonster_, A bland ssd and 2 TB, is not nothing, you mentioned a big HD broken is it this one?04:39
Beldarblank*04:39
PaytonDang, I need a windows recovery disc..04:39
PaytonD:04:39
PaytonI don't have a CD04:39
deezedkcin: yes! So if I understood right your question, a default partition to linux would be ext4 or ext3 or ext204:39
ccmonster_no the broken one is not connected04:40
deezedit seems that ext4 is better04:40
Beldarccmonster_, Is the ssd and the 2 TB brand new?04:40
kcink... know the code off hand?04:40
ccmonster_they are both a year old, but were in boxes04:40
Mongo44How do you show everything in the Home folder?04:41
Beldarccmonster_, Might not have partition tables, how long has or did gparted run, where are you at as for as running gparted right now?04:41
ccmonster_there was no partition04:41
BeldarMongo44ctrl-h04:42
ccmonster_figured that wouldn't be a problem04:42
deezedMobGod: in bash it would be ll, or ls -lah04:42
Beldarccmonster_, right but that does not answer my question nor reference partition table.04:42
deezedor just ls -lh04:42
ccmonster_its just runing04:42
nicknackim trying to get wpa_supplicant going, except when i set eap=PEAP it fails04:42
ccmonster_showing 'scanning all devices' in the status bar on the bottom04:42
nicknacksays its incorrect04:43
deezedkcin: what?04:43
Beldarccmonster_, how long now has it been running?04:43
ccmonster_this time, about 2 minutes.04:43
ccmonster_it ran last time for 5+04:43
PaytonIs it possible to remove linux partitions without a recovery disc?04:43
PaytonAnd uninstall ubuntu04:44
deezedPayton: would you be mad with me if I give you this advice: dont uninstal linux. Uninstal windows.04:45
Beldarccmonster_, I would assume that gparted even on a 2 TB hd, even if it had no partition table finish by now, notice I said assume. If it were me I would stop gparted and close it and unplug the big HD and try again with gparted.04:45
nicknackany help?04:45
Paytondeezed: Remember, I have two PC's one with ubuntu as a main OS and this one that I want running just win804:45
ccmonster_ok, unplugged the big hdd, so now it's just the ssd04:46
deezednicknack: but you are trying to start a PEAP connection?04:46
ccmonster_let's see what happens04:46
nicknackyes04:46
Blasterhello I booted from a live CD so I could allocate more space to my /dev/sda1 partition.  I see that I have 13 gigs of unallocated space, but when I go to resize /dev/sda1 the maximum size doesn't include the unallocated space04:47
kcinwell I don't see ext4 in the list under fdisk.... I kinda thought it was ext somthing but I don't see any ext listed04:47
Mongo44How do you show more in the Home folder?04:47
deezedyes, Payton, thats what I'm saying. Instead of trying a win8, which is not free and so "spy", you should try another distro on this other machine. like debian, or triskel, which is ubuntu based, or even Parabola, or fedora, I dont know04:47
deezedMongo44: open terminal, and digit: ls -lah04:48
deezedenter04:48
nicknackdeezed: yes i want to start peap. otherwise, the connection wont work04:48
Paytondeezed: I'm using dual boot so I have win8 and ubuntu xD04:48
jerry669http://hotgirlsinyogapantss.blogspot.com/2013/12/pulling-them-up.html04:48
Paytondeezed: I want this one without ubuntu so I have one PC with ubuntu and one With win804:48
deezednicknack: oh, so you will have to edit your wpa_supplicant script to put your certificate and your right user/pass04:48
nicknackdeezed:it looks likeit looks like there is another connection.04:49
nicknackidkw hats running04:49
deezedPayton: lol, so you know what is the price for having just windows 8? formating...04:49
deezed=/04:49
nicknackhow can i kill any connection in the minimal install04:49
Paytondeezed: How do I format xD04:50
deezedPayton: I just said: go to a live usb and format with gparted04:50
BeldarBlaster, open gparted and take a screenshot of it and imagebin it.04:50
nicknackdeezed:the info is correct04:51
nicknackhowever, peap seems to not work04:51
Paytondeezed: Uninstalling ubuntu... from ubuntu? ... wut04:51
deezednicknack: uhm, I dont know what can it be.. maybe if you pastebin the logs?04:52
BlasterBeldar: http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=1596004:52
deezedPayton: yes, kind of04:52
deezedPayton: did you understand that its not from your own ubuntu? but a live cd04:52
Mongo44I mean in the My Computer equivalent.04:52
Paytondeezed: I'm confused, I need someone to show me xD04:53
kcinoh I get it04:53
kcinext4 is the format type04:53
BeldarBlaster, You have an extended sda2 right after sda1, so sda1 can't move without dealing with sda2.04:53
kcinwhat's the partition type though... dos?04:53
nicknackits saying the reaosn it d/c is reason 304:54
nicknackusually that means there is another connection, right?04:54
BlasterBeldar:  Yeah, I read that.  How do I deal with it?04:54
deezedkcin: yes, ext4..04:54
deezedPayton: are you kidding?04:54
Paytondeezed: Nope04:54
Paytondeezed: I'm new to partitioning04:54
BeldarBlaster, You can delete it or move it to the right, did it have a swap in it?04:54
nicknackunless im doing something wrong, eap=PEAP right?04:54
deezedPayton: ok, so how did you installed ubuntu?04:55
BlasterBeldar:  Yes it does, but I don't see any options in GParted for moving it.  It appears locked04:55
deezednicknack: actually PEAP means Protected eap04:55
Paytondeezed: I got Beldar To help xD04:55
deezedI think04:55
kcinso where does a disk tell you it's format type? lwhw -C disk seems to say only partition type04:55
nicknackdeezed:but why wont it run?04:55
nicknackit says that eap=PEAP could nt parse or w/e04:55
nicknackusername and id are correct, triple checked04:56
Mongo44What is the key combo to show more in the file system?04:56
deezednicknack: is your certificate right?04:56
BlasterBeldar: My extended partition says "Busy (At least one logical partition is mounted)"04:56
nicknackim using the same config as before04:56
nicknackit worked fine then04:56
BeldarBlaster, You need to unmount the sda2 right click it right on the edge of then green outline and unmount.04:56
Beldarthe*04:56
deezedkcin: maybe a fdisk -l04:56
BlasterBeldar:  It doesn't let me04:57
BlasterAll the right click options are grayed out04:57
kcinthat's the known partition types & what got me confused in the 1st place04:57
kcinit lists things like hfs & stuff04:57
BlasterBeldar:  This is a VM inside VBox, that might make a difference04:57
Paytondeezed: Ok lets make this easier04:57
BeldarBlaster, It looks like there is a swap in there but I see no swap indicated in the left panel, and I know nothing about a vm.04:57
Paytondeezed: Could I make my PC boot up a VirtualBox VM from startup?04:58
PaytonxD04:58
Beldarer vlm04:58
deezedPayton: why?04:58
BlasterBeldar:  I found this article about it http://www.rootusers.com/use-gparted-to-increase-disk-size-of-a-linux-native-partition/04:58
nicknackfailed to parse PEAP04:58
deezedoh, I got it why.. you installed it from a vm04:58
nicknackman, im so behind on my final, im royally FAKED04:58
Paytondeezed: So I don't have to use all of my RAM on windows and ubuntu, just ubuntu04:58
deezedPayton: do you have a free usb to use there?04:59
Paytondeezed: Free USB? you mean a USB with free space?04:59
nicknacksays unknown eap method peap you may need to add support for this eap method during wpa build time ocnfiguration04:59
deezedPayton: no, I mean usb that you can format05:00
Ben64nicknack: what are you trying to do05:00
Paytondeezed: I  have no clue..05:00
deezedPayton: what?05:00
BeldarBlaster, are you right clicking on either the brownish red inside the sda or on the green box for the unmount, try both.05:00
Paytondeezed: I don't know..05:00
Beldarsda2*05:00
nicknackhow do i get eap support for wpa_supplicant!?05:00
deezedPayton: ok, so another way05:01
BlasterBeldar:  I tried both.  The only enabled options are Swapoff, Manage Flags, and Information.05:01
deezedPayton: you still have your ubuntu iso right?05:01
somsipnicknack: I think you had the same error as this? https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=7207105:01
Paytondeezed: Yes, on my USB05:02
nicknackcan someone please just tell me how to get this thing working. please!?05:02
deezedlol, ok05:02
Ben64nicknack: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/en/man5/wpa_supplicant.conf.5.html05:02
deezedso go on Virtual Box, start an ubuntu from there05:02
Paytondeezed: Already loaded05:02
deezedand see if you can format your ubuntu partition from there05:02
BeldarBlaster, try the swap off, The strange part is that there should be a swap partiiton notated in the lower list, I see just a extended, and no operations pending.05:02
deezedwhich means, open gparted05:03
deezedor partition manager05:03
nicknacksomsip:i am using password instead of phrase05:03
deezed(from ubuntu)05:03
BlasterWhat does swapoff do?05:03
nicknackBen64:my config is correc,t im sure of it but PEAP is not build in support it seems05:03
somsipnicknack: ok05:03
BlasterBeldar ^05:03
nicknacksomsip: do you know how to get PEAP support?05:03
BeldarBlaster, turns the swap off we want to see that key disappear in the list below05:04
osubuntuUbuntu release upgrade won't work because of the bleeding edge PPAs, is it correct?05:04
Paytondeezed: No, I want virtualBox to start ubuntu on startup xD and if I want to change back to win8 on start then i can change using f1205:04
Beldarosubuntu, You need to turn them off and maybe use a ppa-purge to remove to upgrade at times.05:04
BlasterBeldar: ok yeah it worked, now I have the option to Delete the linux-swap05:04
osubuntuIs ppa-purge also 3rd party software or in custom PPA?05:05
somsipnicknack: no, I don't.05:05
BeldarBlaster, Cool go for it, and leave a space at the end of the sda1 resize for a swap if needed, do the delete and resize in separate runs.05:05
xanguaosubuntu: it will work, but it is recomended not to use third party repositories05:05
nicknackdoes anyone know how to get peap support? i cant connect to the net without it05:05
deezedPayton: sorry, I dont get you. do you want to take ubuntu off or not?05:06
santhoshhaihaihai05:06
BlasterBeldar:  Not sure what to do from here... http://www.rootusers.com/use-gparted-to-increase-disk-size-of-a-linux-native-partition/05:06
BlasterWhoops I mean05:07
Blasterhttp://imgur.com/k8x9yUD05:07
santhoshiam installing ltsp on ubuntu but in application server and client get same ip05:07
BeldarBlaster, delete the extended now for some reason that swap was not showing.05:08
SonikkuAmericaBlaster: (Hit the check mark up top)05:08
BeldarBlaster, You have to hit the green arrow to make it run .05:08
Beldarnot arrow but check yeah05:09
Paytondeezed: I did before, not knowing that I need the win8 disc that didn't come with my win8 pc xD05:09
Paytondeezed: Now I want VBox to start up ubuntu on PC startup05:09
nicknackcan someone please tell me how to get peap support for the minmal install of ubuntu. otherwise, i cant install the system, nor, finish this final05:09
BlasterBeldar: how much space should I leave for the extended partition?05:10
deezedsorry Payton, I wish I could help you, but given you history I can't anymore.. ask anyone else05:10
SonikkuAmericaBeldar: ☑ :)05:10
BeldarBlaster, enough to have a swap equal to the ram you have for the OS.05:10
nick4menicknack: What have you tried so far?05:10
BlasterBeldar: so the swap stores RAM data mostly?05:11
BeldarBlaster, swap does multiple things, it allows hibernate if equal or slightly larger than the ram amount, and is used when the ram gets to a certain point of use.05:12
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PaytonBlaster: Swap is backup RAM, RAM doesn't exactly get used up but if so many processes use up your RAM, your system will go into backup mode or Use Swap.05:12
BlasterCool05:13
PaytonRAM=Random access memory05:13
BeldarBlaster,  I could not give you a definite total use of swap is all, I doubt few here could.05:13
SonikkuAmerica!swap05:13
ubottuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info05:13
BlasterSo here's what I have now ... http://imgur.com/f88mF58  - do I need to allocate the unallocated?05:13
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Ben64xvee: peap is in my ubuntu, what are you running?05:14
BeldarBlaster, Remove the extended run and just do the resize first.05:14
osubuntuAn unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade. so this can be solved by ppa-purge ?05:15
BeldarBlaster, You have to be careful with running multiple things in a row with gparted.05:15
Blasteroh yeah, why's that?05:15
xveeguys, please. just help me get this internet up, and i wont bug you. pinkie promise!05:15
BlasterI will run the grow operation by itself05:15
osubuntuAlt+SysRq+H does nothing?05:16
osubuntuit is supposed to show help messages :(05:16
BeldarBlaster, gparted has a limited measurement of sizes on a hd is all.05:16
Blasteroh ok05:16
Blasterso I have this 1GB unallocated.  If I allocate it to an extended drive, it still says unallocated below it05:16
Blasterdo I have to allocate it twice, like it was before?05:16
deezedbye guys05:17
xveecan someone please just help me get PEAP to work on the minimal version of ubuntu05:17
BeldarBlaster, run the resize and be sure you still have 1 gig unallocated. The swap inside of it you make will be smaller, and again may be limited to gparteds abilty to read sizes.05:18
BeldarBlaster, I'm not sure you need an extended for a swap either05:18
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Ben64xvee: peap is in my ubuntu, what are you running?05:19
BlasterBeldar:  This is how it originally looked, http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=15960, and this is how it looks now, http://imgur.com/uZVHABq - does it look correct?05:19
xveeBen64:im on ubuntu minmal, during the install stage05:19
xveehowever, because my school network requires it, i cant connect to the network05:19
xveeand with that, cant install anything05:19
BeldarBlaster, remove the extended making process and resize first do not run both.05:20
Blasterok05:20
xveeBen64:what can i do to get that booger working05:21
Blasterdo I need a logical drive as a child to my extended partition?05:21
BeldarBlaster, a logical is what is inside an extended. As far as what can be put on that space as of now you have not exceeded the 3 primaries, needing a extended for more than one additional logicals.05:22
HelasraizamI have a desktop!  But nothing else.  No icons, no windows--even ctrl+alt+T doesn't bring anything up.  How do I fix Ubuntu 13.10 so that I have a desktop environment?  (my background shows perfectly)05:23
BlasterBeldar:  Well, it looks like it worked.  Thanks for your help.05:23
xveei guess its not possible, then....05:24
Guest93588How do I find alternative group chats?05:25
xangua!alis | Guest9358805:25
ubottuGuest93588: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*05:25
IntiiHi all I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my PC but the installer keeps hanging. I've tried the LiveCD version and it hangs on the screen where I can choose to either Try Ubuntu or Install it and the net install version right when it starts detecting disks. How can I fix this?05:26
ObrienDaveIntii, which version are you trying to install?05:27
Intiinet isntall is 13.10 and livecd is 13.04 both 64-bit05:27
IntiiI'm on a Core 2 Duo with 4 GB of ram05:27
HelasraizamCan someone give me a keyword for me being able to log in and see my desktop, but I can't open any windows/see any icons?  (keyboard & mouse are responsive).  Eg, "desktop environment" or "gnome" or "UIWL, the Ubuntu Icon-Window Layer"--without error messages, I'm having a tough time googling!05:30
IntiiObrienDave05:31
nick4meHelasraizam: If you log out and back in, don't restart, are they there?05:33
Helasraizamno (both with ctrl+alt+F1 [relogin?] and ctrl+alt+bksp [restart x server])05:34
nick4meHelasraizam: What version are you running?05:35
Helasraizam13.1005:35
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BeldarIntii, This a dual boot and if so with what and its release?05:36
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IntiiNo dual boot, clean HDD05:36
Intii13.10 (netinstall) and 13.04 (livecd) Beldar05:36
BeldarIntii, Have you checked the sum of the iso? Does this HD have any unallocated space, any partitions there now?05:37
IntiiNo no partitions05:37
BeldarIntii, It has a partition table? you check the sum of the iso?05:37
IntiiBeldar: I have checked the sum of the iso05:38
IntiiAnd there is no partition table05:38
BeldarIntii, table?05:38
IntiiBeldar, None05:38
BeldarIntii, Ah, has to have a partition table, not sure on making one from the mini the live would just be gparted.05:39
IntiiBeldar: It has to have a partition table before installing?05:39
nick4meHelasraizam: Can you check if you have unity-scope-home installed?05:39
ObrienDaveafaik, you need at least a partition table05:39
BeldarIntii, has to have a table to have partitions05:39
IntiiBeldar: The installer hangs before I can even create partitions05:39
ObrienDaveIntii, because you have no table05:40
IntiiOkay, I can create one with the LiveCD correct? If I go into the Try Ubuntu  mode?05:40
BeldarIntii, Can't have dinner without a table, so to speak.05:40
ObrienDavelol05:40
BeldarIntii, Yeah you can do it with gparted05:41
Beldarlive cd05:41
IntiiI don't know if this matters, but it did have a Window partition before I cleared it and it was still hanging then05:41
Guest93588Anyone recommed some good Linux Sites?05:41
Helasraizamnick4me: yes, it's installed05:41
BeldarIntii, Ah what windows release?05:42
Intii705:42
krzdoes ubuntu base come with nouveau or nvidia drivers?05:42
waykoolStudio Xfce v12.04.3 LTS 64 bit installed.. under Power Manager, On AC, Actions, slider "Put computer to sleep when inactive for". what's Xfce's definition of "Sleep"? like Hibernate, Stand by, Hibernate or Suspend, and might it be dangerous on an older computer?05:42
BeldarIntii, this computer ever have W8 or gpt partitons?05:42
krzwaykool: i think it might be suspend to RAM05:43
IntiiBeldar: Not that I know off. Unless the default Window 7 is gpt partitioned, but I doubt it05:43
IntiiMBR most probabbly05:43
krzhibernate is really a hit and miss05:43
waykoolah  ok. ty krz05:43
krzbut dont quote me on that05:43
BeldarIntii, well lets find out you on the live now?05:43
usr13waykool: There are two options, suspend and hibernate05:43
krzthis is how it is setup in debian at least05:43
krzby default05:43
IntiiBeldar: booting into it as we speak05:44
krzthe same may be for archlinux05:44
BeldarIntii, Cool use this app to run just the create bootinfo summary and paste the url here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair05:44
waykoolv11.04 i read OS's were steering away from using Hibernate because it was messing up some OEM machines05:45
john_doe_jrI need to install an old version of mono (2.6.7) onto 12.4 precise….do I compile is all from source…is that my only option to get it installed?05:45
BeldarIntii, the bootinfo running makes a url for you05:45
IntiiBeldar: Okay give me a sec05:45
Shadow__Xhello, I want to use intel integrated graphics and my amd dedicated gpu on my desktop. Once i install the amd card only the monitor connected to it displays something05:45
BeldarIntii, no prob I'm just hanging05:45
Shadow__Xif i remove the amd card the intel integrated works fine again05:45
usr13waykool: If you click on "Log Out" you should see the suspend option.  You can try it and see for yourself if it works.05:46
usr13waykool: (Works ok on my laptops)05:46
osubuntuI disabled all custom ppas but it says An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.05:46
usr13osubuntu: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade05:47
Beldarosubuntu, You using any graphic driver ppa's05:47
waykoolok. rather do it now than mess up when i got 3 TB of valuable client projects piled up.05:47
osubuntuI only use open-sourced ones05:47
Beldarosubuntu, xswat?05:47
osubuntuxswat?05:47
Beldarosubuntu, ppa's can have open source05:47
osubuntui mean05:48
osubuntui only use open source drivers05:48
IntiiBeldar: The whole system froze running the app. It's stuck on Scanning systems (os-prober)05:48
aljosa_how do i get more info then "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade." when using do-release-upgrade?05:49
Beldarosubuntu, That does not answer the question, look through the ppa's and see if any are for graphic drivers open source has nothing to do with this.05:49
nick4meHelasraizam: Maybe 3D issues? http://askubuntu.com/questions/384020/fresh-install-of-13-10-left-with-no-dash-nor-apps-only-blank-magenta-wallpap05:50
osubuntuBeldar, I disabled all custom ppas05:50
BeldarIntii, Hmm, is this HD in good shape? It may be with no partitions it will not just tell us the partition table.05:50
IntiiBeldar: Yeah it should be...05:50
IntiiIt was running Windows 7 fine05:50
Beldarosubuntu, Yea I know, however you have stuff installed from them, most likely that is the problem.05:50
osubuntui never used xswat05:50
waykoolwill the next LTS be 14.04 or 15.04?05:50
Ben64waykool: 14.0405:51
ObrienDave14.0405:51
usr13aljosa_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360293/could-not-calculate-the-upgrade-what-happened05:51
waykoolsmiles thank you.05:51
Beldarosubuntu, We had a user the other day here with ppa's same error, it was a graphic driver ppa that was the problem/05:51
osubuntuBeldar, i did ppa-purge xorg-edgers / ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates05:51
ripthejackerHi everyone, I am getting this 'Authentication is needed to run /usr/bin/dropbox as the super user'. I have been using dropbox for quite some time now, and it's the first time I'm seeing this message.05:52
Beldarosubuntu, ppa-purge was used?05:52
Ben64osubuntu: pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"05:52
Beldarosubuntu: run the commands that Ben64 is giving you to.05:52
osubuntuBen64, in sudo shell, LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ?05:52
BeldarIntii,  can you open gparted and take a screenshot and imagebin it.05:53
Ben64osubuntu: thats not what i said at all...05:53
IntiiBeldar: Yeah gimmie a sec gotta reboot05:53
osubuntuBen64, my native language is korean05:54
Ben64osubuntu: right, but why are you running stuff as root?05:54
osubuntusudo -s05:54
Ben64don't do that05:54
Beldarbad habit05:54
waykoolironic.. 14.04 LTS releases the same month Microsoft ends support for windows xp.05:54
osubuntuWell, this is actually an rare occasion05:55
osubuntui usually do sudo apt-get update05:55
osubuntuwell..05:55
Beldarwaykool, gives two reasons to pop the champagne05:55
technickulwaykool: windows needs to end support for xp :P05:55
technickulwaykool: it's time to move on lol05:55
osubuntuIs it possible to stream stdout to two or more files?05:56
Shadow__XHow can I get intel integrated and amd dedicated gpu to both display? the intel integrated works fine before i installed the amd card05:56
osubuntuI want one to paste it to pastebin, and one to terminal output05:56
osubuntuor do i have to copy the terminal window05:56
Beldar!pastebinit | osubuntu05:56
ubottuosubuntu: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com05:56
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Beldarosubuntu, That just sends it to pastebin though05:57
osubuntuBeldar, i mean, there must be some question wilest doing apt-get05:57
osubuntuso i have to use --force-yes or yes | command ?05:57
waykoolbig problem might occur- Vista win 7 and win 8 are based on XP. any new security vulnerabilities on XP (which most certainly will happen) will likely affect Vista 7 and 8.05:58
Helasraizamnick4me: Thanks!  My desktop env. choices are only "GNOME" and "Ubuntu (default)".  For whatever reason, I can now see icons--the windows don't have a frame around them (with the close (x)/maximize ([])/minimize (-)) and I still can't start my own windows (eg by double-clicking a folder or ctrl+alt+t).  How would I advance?05:58
Ben64might be easier to copy+paste terminal osubuntu05:58
osubuntuokay05:58
Beldarosubuntu, I don't know them myself, and personally want user to stick with waht is asked myself.05:58
Ben64waykool: not on topic here, you could ask that in ##windows05:58
osubuntubut some lines might be cut05:58
osubuntuBeldar Ben64, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6549555/ is apt-get update05:59
osubuntuI wonder if the package tree is broken... :(06:00
waykoolvery true, not on topic. i don't use MS but guessing many in here might be.06:00
IntiiBeldar: http://imgur.com/r8zoGaj06:00
Beldarwaykool, Any OS is as safe as the user makes it.06:00
waykoolgreat point Beldar06:01
Dirangedhrmm im running into a problem with openjdk-6-jre on ubuntu 12.04 and log-hostnames..06:01
Dirangeder long06:01
BeldarIntii, That the gnome only live?06:01
osubuntuhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6549555/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6549565/06:01
Dirangedhttp://pastie.org/854137006:01
IntiiBeldar: yeah06:02
DirangedI think I'm seeing a really old bug in java6.. but im wondering whether there is a fix in ubuntu12 somewhere?06:02
Dirangedsome updated package..etc06:02
osubuntuBen64, Beldar, Sorry for this, can you help me why the distribution upgrade is not working? Here is the apt-get update and upgrade log : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6549555/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6549565/06:02
Goldman60Afaik Java 6 is no longer supported06:02
Ben64osubuntu: all looks fine there06:02
osubuntuyeah06:03
osubuntudpkg --configure -a doesn't solve this either06:03
osubuntuor sudo apt-get -f install06:03
BeldarIntii, Cool I use the shell, I would make a new table-device-create partition table and choose msdos, then try the install.06:03
nick4meHelasraizam: Did you change to unity 2d and the icons came back?06:03
Helasraizamnick4me: I don't have "Unity2d" as a boot option, only Gnome and Ubuntu (default); the icons are back in both06:04
IntiiBeldar: Is it still supposed to say Unallocated after I do that?06:04
osubuntuNobody could help me? :(06:04
osubuntuthen ill send there a bug report...06:04
BeldarIntii, yep06:04
IntiiBeldar: As soon as I choose a language and click Continue the system freezes06:05
BeldarIntii, Not sure than, this a live on a usb or cd or dvd?06:06
IntiiBeldar: DVD06:06
usr13osubuntu: So you are wanting to go from 13.04 to 13.10?06:06
osubuntuyes06:06
osubunturaring to saucy06:07
GerowenIs there a quick and easy way to configure Grub in 13.10?  I seem to remember there being an old graphical tool that would let you set background images and add menu entries and such.06:07
nick4meHelasraizam: In the Ubuntu (default), try unity --replace in a terminal06:07
BeldarIntii, I have seen iso's correct with a sum check and not work, and if burned to fast problems as well, just have to guess somewhat here. I assume the computer is powerful enough and all the hardware works.06:07
usr13osubuntu: Ok.  I'll give you two pieces of advise, in the form of what I do and do not do.  I do not use backports.  I use LTS only.06:07
osubuntuLTS i see06:07
osubuntuLongTermSupport06:08
usr13osubuntu: Yes06:08
osubuntuDisable backports. And?06:08
osubuntuOh06:08
usr13stick with LTS06:08
IntiiBeldar: Yeah its got a Core 2 Duo 4GB of ram ran Win7 just fine. I've used this DVD before to install Ubuntu w/o problems06:08
osubuntulol06:08
usr13osubuntu: (I like stuf that works.)06:08
osubuntubut is it possible to go from one LTS to another LTS in one step?06:08
BeldarIntii, strange place to freeze is all, not sure really.06:09
usr13osubuntu: Yes06:09
Guest92281How do i stop the screen from shutting off during install from a oen drive06:09
Guest92281Pen*06:09
IntiiBeldar: is there anything else I can do?06:09
osubuntudo-release-upgrade only upgrades to the version immediately released after current version06:09
osubuntu12.04 -> 12.10 is possible but 12.04 -> 13.10 isn't possible in one upgrade06:09
usr13osubuntu: It depends on if you are set to LTS or not.06:10
BeldarIntii, I would not rely on this disc working before as empirical data is all, if it were me I would do a new download and try a usb and or reburn the dvd.06:10
osubuntuok06:10
osubuntuIt says Err http://security.ubuntu.com sausy-security/main blah blah06:10
IntiiBeldar: I have 3 different discs of Ubuntu...none of them work06:10
Guest92281It keeps shitting the screen off and i dont know ehy06:10
osubuntuit fails to load all saucy ppas06:11
osubuntuin apt update of do-release-upgrade06:11
usr13osubuntu: What does  grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades  say?06:11
BeldarIntii, For me this is a knock out the possible variables, you have any usb's?06:11
osubuntuWait apt-get is still in progress06:11
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IntiiBeldar, none at the moment06:11
ccmonaterBeldar any ideas ?06:11
BeldarIntii, I would look up installs with this version and that computer as well06:11
usr13osubuntu: Ok, well, I've given you *my* advise.06:12
osubuntuokay06:12
Beldarccmonater, not really.06:12
ccmonaterAnyone know how to stop tje screen from shutting off durong install06:13
IntiiBeldar, okay I'll continue this tomorrow...getting late. Thanks for all your help !06:13
BeldarIntii, Might need a kernel tweak or something, I have rarely had a problem, so mainly know these areas.06:13
Intiinoapci?06:13
IntiiBeldar06:13
BeldarIntii, Not sure since I have not had to do it, could be that or another.06:14
usr13ccmonater: look at bios settings ...06:14
ccmonaterWhat bios setting should i look for06:14
IntiiOkay Beldar, I'll try that out. Thanks!06:14
BeldarIntii, no prob, sorry we could not get it done.06:16
IntiiBeldar, no worries!06:17
IntiiTake care!06:17
Beldaryou ti06:17
Beldarto*06:17
edmonHi, Does anyone know of a good voice or noise activated audio/video recording program?06:19
hFortichwhat do you mean by noise/voice activated?06:22
edmonhFortich: from the microphone, if someone knocks on the door , or ehem, opens the door06:24
ccmonaterIm stuck06:24
raptor67682Hi06:25
hFortichyou might have better luck using a microcontroller...06:25
raptor67682would you konw if there is a sort console think to get a word definition from wikipedia into the console.06:25
raptor67682I mean sthg such as wn --over (wordnet)06:25
raptor67682but for wikipedia EN/US/UK.06:26
viewerHello. I was following the guide for setting up ubuntu with openbox, and I noticed for asks me to install the package "gnome-volume-manager", however this package does not appear to exist in the repositories for me. what do?06:26
ObrienDaveedmon, https://launchpad.net/audio-recorder06:26
ObrienDavevoice/noise capable06:27
ObrienDaveno video06:27
makarahi. I use Docky, but since some time ago I can't get it to hide properly.06:28
makarawhatever option I choose, autohide, intellihide and window dodge - it just sits there.06:29
edmonObrienDave: Thanks, at least I can see if I talk in my sleep06:30
ObrienDavelol06:31
ObrienDaveedmon, click the timer info button for command help06:32
edmonObrienDave: curious, have you ever configured voice activated recording?06:32
ObrienDaveno, i do know what it is though06:32
ObrienDavebrb06:33
ccmonaterFrustrating. Cant install because the monitor shuts off. Anyone have any ideas. Google isnt giving anything06:38
viewerhow do i set up automounting in openbox?06:39
Shadow__Xcan someone help me get ubuntu to output to intel hd graphics 4500 (on an intel i5 4570s) and an amd r9 270x at the same time?06:41
Shadow__Xany help would be greatly appreciated06:42
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usr13ccmonater: try bios settings06:42
Guest93588Whats a good site for daily news on Ubuntu and other distros06:43
Guest93588like a CNET.com for Linux/Ubuntu06:43
usr13Guest93588: distrowatch.com06:43
Guest93588any others?06:43
DWTayloromgubuntu.uk06:44
DWTaylorwebupd8.org06:44
DWTaylorphoronix.com06:44
usr13Guest93588: http://www.linuxtoday.com/06:44
DWTaylorlots of good news sites for opensource06:44
Guest93588THanks for that06:44
usr13Guest93588: http://lxer.com/06:45
usr13Guest93588: https://www.google.com/search?q=Linux+news&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a06:46
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usr13Guest93588: http://opensource.com/tags/open-source-news06:47
Shadow__Xanyone? this is on a desktop it should work. I get a display on the monitor attached to the intel output but it only displays -06:50
Ben64Shadow__X: you don't want to use the amd at all?06:54
Shadow__XBen64: i want to be able to use both honestly06:54
Shadow__Xi am using the amd card for number crunching to rather use the intel06:55
Ben64i'm not sure, but you'd probably need to set up two x servers06:55
Shadow__Xhmm really? On windows it works without much issue06:55
Shadow__Xbut i guess that makes sense as i do get an output right now just nothing more than a -06:55
Shadow__XBen64: could i run 1 X and just point it to the intel gpu?06:56
Ben64yeah06:56
koyetsuwhere can i find kernel options and parameters? for 13.1006:58
Shadow__XBen64: do you mind explaning how to set that up?06:58
nts7jst4bt1Water hole07:05
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SwedeMikeml07:10
SwedeMikeoops07:10
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koyetsuhow can i see what kernel is installed?07:15
jefftoanuname -a07:15
koyetsuthanks07:16
nemesishi07:25
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cfhowlettnemesis, greetingts07:25
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scALEXtrichi07:32
jnhghyHi, I'm trying to use php with sqlite(using ubuntu 12.04), I have a working apache and php and just did and "sudo apt-get install php5-sqlite" that installed the package and restarted my webserver but I still can't access the sqlite functions, anybody any clue on this?07:50
frojndHi there.07:52
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poxor!random07:53
poxorwrong channel07:53
poxor:P07:53
karab44Guys could you please explain any time when I start gparted I have "Libparted Bug Found!" popup with Could not stat device /dev/mapper//dev/sdb: "sil" and "isw" formats discovered (using isw)! - No such file or directory.07:53
karab44what could be the reason of such warning07:53
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frojndI have an interesting problem. Somehow my home addrss is in /etc/hosts.deny even if I remove this entry it keeps poping up. So I can't ssh to ubuntu. The machine has ufw firewall running.  In /etc/hosts.deny there is no ALL:ALL:DENY entry.. why my ip keeps poping up in /etc/hosts.deny?07:55
causativeI want to install updates (12.04), which I haven't done in a while.  However when I try, it says "requires installation of packages from untrusted sources" and lists a large number of packages.  Is there any way to get a list of which _sources_ are untrusted, rather than which packages?07:55
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lkthomasinteresting that if I play youtube on firefox, my soft phone wouldn't work on sound07:57
impradeepycausative: cat /etc/apt/sources.list07:59
geexteehi. I saw one desktop feature in linuxmint cinnamon. When you move window to the corner of the screen it automatically takes 1/4 size of the screen. So you can place 4 windows quickly on the screen side by side07:59
geexteedoes unity have this?07:59
causativeimpradeepy, http://pastie.org/854149407:59
impradeepycausative:http://askubuntu.com/questions/140246/how-do-i-resolve-unmet-dependencies08:00
causativeit doesn't say there are unmet dependencies it says there are unauthenticated sources08:02
impradeepycausative:sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade --allow-unauthenticated08:03
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causativebut is that wise to allow unauthenticated... wouldn't it be better to find out what the unauthenticated sources are, and authenticate them?08:03
Beldarcausative, You pasted a update upgrade yet?08:04
ObrienDaveit can't d/l from sources you have not allowed before. probably expired keys08:04
impradeepycausative:open software sources see yourself08:04
impradeepycausative:may be expired ppa or you are trying to update ppa which are currently not in use08:05
ObrienDavelike medibuntu etc.08:05
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TheCuspcan anyone walk me through booting ubuntu through virtual box08:07
aeon-ltdTheCusp: start the vm?08:08
Beldarcausative, at the least you have a intrepid repo open.08:08
impradeepycausative:or may be you have entered new pps incorrectly08:08
causativesudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade seems to be working08:08
TheCuspalready did08:08
aeon-ltdTheCusp: if it installed properly it should just boot like a pc, but with no bios or post screens08:09
causativewhat is a ppa/pps?08:09
TheCuspi dont know how to mount.  I've only ever used windows so this process is completely new to me08:09
impradeepysorry spel misktake only pa08:09
impradeepyppa08:09
BeldarTheCusp, Live or install either should boot.08:10
causativeI would find out myself but I'm having problems connecting to the web because I'm downloading updates08:10
djdes2before i get sent to #irssi, I have a screen + irssi question.  I use a shell/screen to use irc. is there a way to libnotify me when my tty client sees a certain string to libnotify me?08:11
cfhowlettTheCusp, mount?  is this first boot?08:12
TheCuspim so confused08:12
TheCuspyes08:12
impradeepycausative:ppa-personal packages archives for more detail  please visit http://askubuntu.com/questions/4983/what-are-ppas-and-how-do-i-use-them08:12
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cfhowlettTheCusp, change the settings so that this time, it boots from the hard driver, not the ISO.  start the vm.08:12
Shadow__XBen64: Hey, is there a way to get X to default to the intel gpu instead of the amd one? then i wouldnt need another X08:13
causativety08:13
TheCuspcfhowlett: I keep getting FATAL: No bootable medium found08:14
jinppkhi, i am using 13.10 on my  laptop, and i installed kubuntu-desktop to try it but now i am having difficulty removning it without breaking everything. It seems that when lightdm-kde-greeter is removed, x doesnt start on boot. i can still to ctrl alt f1 and reinstall it and reboot. any ideas why this is, or what i can do about it/08:14
jinppk?08:14
djdes2what are the ruls08:16
djdes2!help08:17
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience08:17
djdes2!givez absolutely no fucks08:18
ubottudjdes2: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:18
djdes2!kthxbi08:18
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cfhowlettjinppk, how did you remove kubuntu-desktop?08:23
jinppki apt-get removed most of the "kde" sounding packages in the list of what it installed when i installed it in the first place that i got from the apt log files08:24
jinppki then reinstalled the lightdm-kde-greeter after some trial and error and worked it (or its deps) were needed...08:25
cfhowlettjinppk, that should not have effected x.  try this.  sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop08:25
jinppkPackage 'kubuntu-desktop' is not installed, so not removed08:26
jinppkshould i re install it them purge?08:26
jinppkthen*08:26
cfhowlettjinppk, nope.  gone is gone.  resintalled the lightdm-kde-greeter should fix.  reboot to test08:27
jinppkits currently installed and boots ok08:28
jinppkbut it wasnt installed befor i installed kubuntu-desktop which is a dep of.08:28
cfhowlettjinppk, ah, I see.  so lightdm-kde is running not the default ubuntu-lightdm?08:29
jinppkTo be honest im not sure what lightdm is so i dont know08:29
jinppkoh08:30
cfhowlettjinppk, it's the purdy picturz and lightz when you start your buntu08:30
jinppkwhen it boots up the login screen is not the original ubuntu one, sometimes it is the kde one and  sometimes it is just white08:30
jinppkYep. so that must be the issue.08:31
cfhowlettjinppk, right.  there's a way to reset it back, but you have to do it manually.  search for "set default lightdm" or similar terms08:31
jinppkhow do i get rid of the KDE one and get the Ubuntu(unity?) one back08:31
jinppkok thanks08:32
Beldarjinppk, what release?08:35
jinppk13.1008:35
jinppkim trying dpkg-reconfigure lightdm08:35
jinppkafter remocing the kde greeter08:35
makarahi. I use Docky, but since some time ago I can't get it to hide properly.08:36
makarawhatever option I choose, autohide, intellihide and window dodge - it just sits there.08:36
Beldarjinppk, Ah, well there is a website that has whole package lists for removal, but only up to 13.04 at this time. In the future when you install a desktop save a list of the packages installed.08:36
jinppkhaha yes08:38
jinppki shoudl have, i figured it would log it08:38
jinppkand i took the list from there08:39
jinppkbut i think the issue is some config stuff08:39
jinppkIm going to try and reboot, so dont send me any msgs!08:39
eraggoweirdly noticied that i were in overflow channel08:40
eraggooops08:40
Beldareraggo, never been there, is it like purgatory?08:40
eraggowrong channel :D08:40
MangaKaDenzatest08:41
MangaKaDenzavvut08:41
MangaKaDenza!return08:41
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!08:41
MangaKaDenzaahhh08:42
MangaKaDenzajust checking , leaving now08:42
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Mutex Hey guys08:49
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jinppkSo, i tired removing the kde-greeter and reconfigureing lightdm but no good, same problem08:49
MutexI did a bit of an oopsie08:49
klrr_is there a easy way to simply stop a daemon in ubuntu?08:50
MutexI ran the Nvidia driver from their website (the installer, I closed x server before running)08:50
klrr_from commandline?08:50
MutexSince nouveau doesn't work08:50
Ben64Mutex: you shouldn't install it that way08:50
MutexAnyway, now I have a black screen after I login with only the cursor on it.08:50
MutexAny hints as to how I can remove the driver?08:50
Ben64the installer should have an uninstaller08:51
Ben64but just curious, which card do you have?08:51
lvlephfor some reason I can ping 127.0.0.1 but not localhost. My host file does indeed contain 127.0.0.1 localhost. Not sure how to fix this.08:51
Mutex740M08:51
klrr_is there a easy way to simply stop a daemon in ubuntu?08:51
klrr_from commandline?08:51
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lvlephklrr_, service <daemon name> stop08:52
klrr_ty ty08:52
lvlephas long as it is a service08:52
lvlephotherwise maybe killall08:52
Ben64Mutex: do you have a dual gpu setup?08:52
klrr_lvleph: thanks!08:53
Ben64lvleph: what does "host localhost" say?08:53
lvlephBen64, command not found08:53
Ben64really? you don't have the command "host" ??????08:53
MutexBen64: I have an intel integrated card and 1 740M.08:55
MutexI just finished the uninstall08:55
MutexThis better work or I'm installing lubuntu08:55
lvlephMutex, what is the problem that you are having?08:55
MutexNot that that will fix my graphics problems08:55
Ben64Mutex: you should look into "bumblebee"08:55
MutexCan't get Nvidia graphics to work08:55
Ben64https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee08:55
Ben64the problem is the dual gpus, not the nvidia08:56
MutexIsn't that for opteron devices though?08:56
Ben64optimus. = dual gpu nvidia/intel08:56
lvlephMy nvidia graphics wouldn't work because the driver wouldn't support efi boot, Mutex08:56
lvlephOnce I figured out how to boot into a bios mode then things worked.08:57
MutexOh I use EFI08:57
lvlephWhat type of computer?08:57
Mutexwell looks like im fucked I uninstalled the driver and same problem08:57
MutexLenovo ThinkPad E53108:57
jinppkBeldar cfhowlett, iv discovered that when i remove the KDE greeter, and reboot i get these lines in my /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log: [+0.00s] DEBUG: Seat: Failed to find session configuration08:57
jinppk[+0.00s] DEBUG: Seat: Failed to create greeter session08:57
MutexAnyone have any tips as to how I can at least get X working again?08:58
Beldar!language| Mutex08:58
ubottuMutex: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.08:58
lvlephYou can switch to bios mode some how, but I don't know the specifics of that comp. Also, it may not be the problem. Mine was because the API for my EFI was too old.08:58
osubuntuX.org x server08:58
MutexSorry :/08:58
lvlephMutex, there should be a backup of xorg.conf08:58
Ben64there shouldn't be an xorg.conf08:58
MutexThere's none in /etc/X1108:58
MutexLooks like reinstall is the only option, right?08:59
osubuntuXorg -configure is not recommended08:59
osubuntuView xorg.log08:59
MutexWhy does the login screen render fine but nothing else works?09:01
Shadow__XMutex: do you see a background?09:01
Shadow__XMutex: after you log in that is09:01
MutexI see black, and a cursor once I login.09:02
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osubuntuDoes it stay in black screen with a cursor09:02
osubuntuI once have experienced that problem but patience seemed to solve that09:03
Shadow__Xosubuntu: leaving it like that?09:03
osubuntuBefore that09:03
impradeepyjinppk:cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf paste its outputi think its still using force kde greeter09:03
MutexYes, it stays.09:03
lar4Hi. there's a bug in alsa on asus boards. i managed to google a patch to fix it but the patch asks which file to patch and I don't know what to input, anyone can please help?09:03
jinppkimpradeepy, the user session is set to ubuntu, and the greeter session is lightdm-kde-greeter. However i reinstaled it to get x to start again, i suppose i should remove it and reboot then check? what should it be set to?09:05
osubuntuView /var/log/Xorg.0.log09:05
Rorylar4: The patch is probably applied to the source code to the driver, and then you compile the patched version. Could you link to the instructions so someone can help you?09:06
impradeepyjinppk:greeter-session=dafault.desktop09:06
impradeepyjinppk:greeter-session=default.desktop09:06
lar4impradeepy, https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound.git/commit/?id=ae24c3191ba2ab03ec6b4be323e730e00404b4b6&id2=5c0ee9497b33cde3e57460efe4f73313dc0b57a309:06
lar4err, Rory09:06
Roryshort url http://rory.sh:41443/2S809:07
airtonixjinppk: did you at any point attempt to do : sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm ?09:07
jinppkimpradeep, yep that looks like the problem when i removed lightdm-kde-greeter it leaves it as greetersession=09:07
jinppkairtonix, yes i did09:07
jinppkno effect09:07
airtonixjinppk: did you make sure lightdm is installed?09:07
Rorylar4: What Ubuntu version are you using?09:07
jinppkairtonix, yes it is09:07
airtonixjinppk: sudo apt-get install lightdm --reinstall09:07
lar412.0409:07
Rorylar4: There is probably a better way than patching your kernel! Is upgrading to 13.04 an option?09:08
Rorylar4: Or, could you describe your issue and we can see if there's another way09:08
airtonixjinppk: and the reconfigure didn't ask you to choose a login manager?09:08
impradeepyjinppk:did you set greeter-session =default.desktop?do one reboot09:08
impradeepyjinppk:during login select ubuntu as default09:09
jinppkairtonix, when i reconfigure there is no output, when i did reinstall there was simmilarly nothing of note and it still didnt fix the lightdmconfig09:09
jinppkimpradeep, copy that09:09
jinppkbrb09:09
jinppkexit09:09
jinppkoops09:09
lar4Rory, i have crackling sounds with spdif output. There are manual fixes but I haven't managed to do them09:09
impradeepyjinppk:ok09:09
lar4Ubuntu 13.04 has no shell?!09:11
ResQuei have a fat32 partition mounted in ubuntu and it shows no folder /boot/efi but if i look at the same partion with an efi shell, it shows the dir is there whats going on?09:14
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zuppyimpradeepy, this is jinppk, still no luck. in the lightdm log it says failed to find session configuration default.desktop09:14
Rorylar4: What do you mean?09:15
impradeepyzuppy: after reinstalling lightdm did you also reinstall unity? if yes then greeter-session=unity-greeter and user session=ubuntu09:15
ActionParsniplar4: the default Gnome based Ubuntu used Unity shell.09:15
zuppyimpardeepy, i never removed unity09:15
ResQuethe folder is also there when i look at the file system with the grub shell, but when i am booted in to ubuntu the folder is no there, any idea what is going on. its a fat32 partion09:15
lar4ActionParsnip, I don't want unity, I want to keep everything as in 12.04..09:15
impradeepyzuppy:then do one change greeter-session=unity-greeter09:16
Rorylar4: You could perhaps install a backported kernel...09:16
zuppyimpradeepy, haha already trying, rebooting now09:16
zuppyimpardeepy, bingo!!! Thanks very much, is this a bug that removing one greeter does not ensure that another greeter is set? should i file a report?09:17
zuppyit certainly doesnt seem like expected behaviour09:17
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Xat`I'm having an issue with a fresh 12.04.3 LTS installation when installing openjdk-6-jre from aptitude09:17
RoryXat`: If you're getting errors, please put them on http://paste.ubuntu.com09:17
ActionParsniplar4: the default shell in 12.04 is also Unity09:17
impradeepyzuppy:enjoy :),glad to help you cheers:)09:18
ActionParsniplar4: you can install gnome-panel and log off, then log into the new session on the login screen and get the old gnome-panel style session (with some weird quirks)09:18
Xat`Rory: I resolved it but this is very strange09:18
lar4ActionParsnip, ok, but will it fix the bug?..09:18
Xat`I can't reproduce it09:18
ActionParsniplar4: what is the bug?09:18
RoryXat`: What do you remember?09:18
lar4ActionParsnip, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/35936109:18
ubottuUbuntu bug 359361 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "ALSA SPDIF Digital output clipping / crackling during playback" [Undecided,Confirmed]09:18
ActionParsniplar4: how will changing the shell you use fix sound?09:19
lar4ActionParsnip, it won't but someone suggested upgrading to 13.0409:19
Xat`Rory:  when I tried to install openjdk-6-jre it stopped and said some dependancies cannot be resolved (speaking about metapackage)09:20
ActionParsniplar4: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload09:20
RoryXat`: And how did you resolve it?09:20
Xat`then I installed the package name into this metapackage, then aptitude install openjdk-6-jre again09:20
Xat`and it works09:20
RoryXat`: That's usually when you haven't run an "apt-get update" first09:20
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Xat`Rory: I run aptitude update instead09:21
ActionParsnipXat`: its doesnt handle multi-arch, so apt-get is good if you use 64bit09:21
Xat`aptitude doesn't handle multiarch ?09:22
ActionParsnip!aptitude09:22
ubottuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter multiarch problems on non-updated 12.04 installs, see  http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.09:22
Xat`whereas apt does09:22
Xat`?09:22
ActionParsnipXat`: yes, unless they fixed the bug09:22
Xat`alright09:22
Xat`ok ok thanks09:23
MutexI had a look at the X server log09:23
MutexOkay I restarted lightdm and now it's still black with white cursor09:26
MutexSo the recommendation was to wait it out?09:26
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ActionParsniplar4: did you run the large command here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure09:27
ActionParsniplar4: in step 4?09:28
lar4running..09:29
ActionParsniplar4: why have you not ran that already? Surely that page would be the FIRST page you hit when you were trying to resolve sound issues in Ubuntu09:30
ActionParsniplar4: seriously?09:30
ActionParsniplar4: reboot after it has ran, then test09:30
lar4ActionParsnip, ok, but the bug report I linked you to suggests it happens with every Asus mb09:31
lar4in Linux09:31
lar4So I fail to see how updating a reported but unpatched bug will help09:32
MutexIt's still black ;(09:39
MutexSo my only option is to reinstall Ubuntu or another distro, right?09:40
impradeepymutex:whats the issue?09:40
MutexI installed/uninstalled Nvidia proprietary drivers (nouveau doesn't identify my chip)09:41
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Mutexand now x is broken09:41
Jpmh.09:41
MutexI get to the login screen, login, and its a black background with a white cursor09:42
lar4ActionParsnip, it's working, ty09:42
MutexWhich is movable.09:42
impradeepymutex:show me the output of  cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf09:42
MutexI can get into tty0 or whatever the virtual console is called09:42
MutexFile doesn't exist09:43
MutexThere is a lightdm.conf.d and users.conf though09:43
RoryMutex: Can you press ctrl-alt-f1 and log in with your normal username and password?09:43
MutexAlready in there :)09:44
RoryMutex: Can you run the 4 commands at the end of the top answer here http://askubuntu.com/questions/206283/how-can-i-uninstall-a-nvidia-driver-completely09:44
impradeepymutex:show me the output of  cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager09:45
RoryMutex: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-* && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop && sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak && echo nouveau | sudo tee -a /etc/modules09:45
ActionParsniplar4: magic stuff huh09:45
ActionParsniplar4: thats why that page exists09:45
lar4ActionParsnip, I googled the symptoms and found the bug fix that's why i tried it09:46
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MutexIm on it, thank you so much :)09:47
ActionParsniplar4: try:   ubuntu fix sound      and look what pops up09:47
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MutexRan all that.09:48
MutexRebooting09:49
MutexBtw the xorg conf didn't exist09:49
lar4lol09:49
lar4usually ubuntu works well...09:49
MutexOkay same problem09:50
lar4the only thing i haven't managed to fix was using dual displays whichi aren't of the same resolution09:50
lar4bye09:50
MutexI do have a window but with no borders09:50
MutexSystem program problem detected09:50
MutexAnd still black ;(09:51
MutexWait09:51
MutexYayyy09:51
MutexI love you all09:51
MutexIt works.09:51
FloodBot1Mutex: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:51
saleniexhi!09:51
MutexSorry mr flood that was very immature of me.09:52
saleniexI have a problem with reboot while NFS is mounted - reboot hangs on sync. When I unmount NFT disk first and then reboot all works fine. Any ideas?09:53
infolinuxHi All, Anybody here have experience with iozone and testing NFS?09:54
Siyagood morning all09:55
SiyaI have a 128MB CF card, freshly formatted (FAT32). After I copy 13 files to it it says it's full09:55
Siyadf -h says it's only 9% used09:56
Siyaany ideas?09:56
saleniexSiya: depends on size of files09:56
RakhollHello, I'm getting periodic upload activity on my network history, and it's clogging up my connection. I have tried netstat -e -e -p to figure out the PID of the process with no luck so far.09:58
RichardRamirezHi.09:58
RichardRamirezIs it possible to dual-boot two linux distros on one USB?09:59
RakhollI think my machine is causing some trouble, any advice would be appreciated. The destinations of the upload activity are not consistent.09:59
SiyaRichardRamirez: should be fine, just partition the USB storage device and treat it like a normal disk (grub etc)10:00
RichardRamirezhttp://www.circuidipity.com/multi-boot-usb.html10:00
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RichardRamirezSiya, I am having a problem.10:03
RichardRamirezI am trying to install GRUB on a USB drive, but it gives me this error: http://pastie.org/private/i7zf8n0czhqni4pzc3ygiw (note that I use Ubuntu 12.04 with encryption)10:03
BeldarRichardRamirez, this ISO's?10:07
RichardRamirezwhat?10:07
BeldarRichardRamirez, full install of the OS or an iso?10:07
RichardRamirezISO.10:07
BeldarRichardRamirez, persistent?10:08
RichardRamirezyes.10:08
BeldarRichardRamirez, You know the limitations of a persistent they do fill up and are not really cleanable10:08
RichardRamirezI just want to dual-boot two linux distros on one USB.10:09
BeldarRichardRamirez, You can I use the multisystem loader you can find at pendrivelinux.10:09
BeldarRichardRamirez, ou can fill up the usb with as many that will fit.10:10
Beldaryou*10:10
BeldarRichardRamirez, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/10:11
Wiz_KeeDMade my post Beldar :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2192875&p=12869997#post1286999710:13
Wiz_KeeDhi10:13
BeldarRichardRamirez, IT is basically the same as your multiboot link without having to build it.10:13
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Wiz_KeeDthat was unsavoury10:15
nictrasaviosHello, I was wondering what the best 3D CAD program on Ubuntu is for someone who is experienced in SolidWorks and SolidEdge?10:17
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residentmoronFreeCAD looks pretty good, but, no personal experience10:20
Beldarnictrasavios, best is a subjective, and really yours.10:21
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nictrasaviosBeldar: I was expecting a reply like that... so I'll rephrase, in your opinion, what is the 3D CAD modelling software that most closely replicates the interface and capabilities of either/or both of SolidWorks and SolidEdge.10:23
ObrienDaveimo, nothing comes close to SolidWorks10:24
residentmoronexit10:25
nictrasaviosObrienDave, I'm starting to get the impression from my research. Maybe I'll mess around with Vmware and Wine. I've got a AW Aurora, so I have enough power to VM it.10:25
ObrienDaveNever could get SolidWorks to run under Wine. gave up trying :/10:28
JesseHI'm using lubuntu, but perhaps someone will know. How do I minimize a fullscreen game?10:28
JesseH(uses sdl)10:29
nictrasaviosObrienDave, Yeah, I'm seeing its listed as garbage. I've got iTunes on Vmware unity, I'll have to see if SW can handle being VM-ed.10:29
ObrienDavenictrasavios, let me know if you do. good luck ;)10:30
nictrasaviosI'll have to see if I can script VMware Workstation to start on boot in unity mode.10:32
sazawalI forgot my irc password, how can I recover it? (I know this is off-topic, but I don't know where else to ask)10:33
fishcookeri've install fail2ban.. the log said that the unban but i stil cant login.. i think the iptables don't accept my connection10:33
ubuntuk10:33
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Beldarsazawal, ##freenode will send it to your registered email10:33
cfhowlettsazawal, or make  a new one10:33
sazawalBeldar, whom to ask in that room?10:33
RoryJesseH: That's application-specific, sadly10:34
Beldarsazawal, just ask10:34
Beldarit's all mods10:34
KeyboardFailMy keyboard and mouse do not work when i boot ubunut, it stops working at the GDM login screen, and it also fails to work if i do a kernal recovery boot boot. it works if i boot from the ubuntu live cd though. I have no idea how to fix this can someone please help10:34
sazawalBeldar, ok thanks10:34
BeldarKeyboardFail, Has it always been this way?10:35
KeyboardFailBeldar: no, this install has been working fine for days.10:35
BeldarKeyboardFail, So any links as to why the change?10:35
RoryKeyboardFail: Does it work if you select an older kernel version from the Grub boot menu?10:35
Danatoare all i5 processors 64bit compatible?10:36
RoryDanato: Yes10:36
KeyboardFailRory: i did not try that, i can reboot now and check10:36
DanatoRory: thanks10:36
tovarishhi, if i do "ls" and "env -i ls" ls doesn't use the same order10:36
KeyboardFailBeldar: i did update the grub config file early today, i changed the gfxmode to 1440x900x32, before it was not set10:36
nictrasaviosDanato, If they are 3rd gen or above.10:37
tovarishI failed to found wich env variable mess with ls10:37
tovarishdoes someone know which env variable I should remove to have the same order than "env -i ls"?10:37
KeyboardFailBeldar: i also had a look in the xorg log and there does not seem to be any errors, in fact i can clearly see it find both the keyboard and track pad mouse10:37
Danatonictrasavios: so does that mean that not every single i5 is 64bit compatible? or does it mean that i5 are all 3rd gen or above?10:38
KeyboardFailalso the computer does not crash at the GDM login screen, i can see the cursor blinking, and i can use the power button to do a normal shutdown. it just seems as though GDM or xorg isnt getting any input10:39
nictrasaviosDanato, If you get a really old i5, it may not be. But if its a computer made since the sandy-bridge gen came out, your safe. (Which is every computer on the market today).10:39
jpentlandHey. Can anyone recommend a good desktop environment for multi monitor? When I plug in/unplug my monitor in Unity my  windows go all over the place and it takes me a long time to find them all again.10:39
Danatonictrasavios: thanks for that10:39
BeldarKeyboardFail, I would check the kernel as suggested, generally you change grub in /etc/default/grub not sure of what you did as a cause, you can chroot from a live cd though and fix that if needed.10:39
nictrasaviosDanato, Actually, some i5's are 4th gen haswells now. Watch out for that. In general, i5 4th gen > i5 3rd gen.10:40
Rorytovarish: What's the output of "type ls"10:40
KeyboardFailBeldar: ok, i will use the live cd and reset the grub config back to the default and i will also try another kernel. thanks10:40
tovarishRory, ls is aliased to `ls --color=auto -F'10:40
KeyboardFailRory: going to try your kernel idea now, thanks10:40
Rorytovarish: if you run \ls instead of ls, do you get the same as env -i ls ?10:41
tovarishRory, nope it change nothing (I have unalias ls temporary)10:41
Rorytovarish: that's what \ls does, btw, it bypasses the alias10:42
tovarishI know10:42
tovarishtoday I have to alias ls with env -i ls to have a correct sort order10:42
tovarishbut I really want to understand what broke my ls10:42
Rorytovarish: can you show me the output of "printenv"10:43
RoryPlease paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel10:43
nictrasaviosjpentland, I personally have three monitors and prefer cinnamon since unity makes all three monitors look asymmetric, but I have no experience in unplugging and plugging in frequently, I just know that it seems to handle them better. (No mouse stick or awkward workspace bugs).10:43
Rorynictrasavios: You can disable sticky edges in screen options btw10:44
nictrasaviosRory, But then I miss the launcher.10:44
Rorynictrasavios: perhaps KDE?10:44
jpentlandnictrasavios, hmm ok. I have a laptop with a large monitor so unplugging is the main use-case. I also have 8 workspaces which kind of amplifies the problem.10:44
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nictrasaviosRory, Cinnamon works best, without all the bloat.10:45
tovarishRory, http://lpaste.net/9681610:45
nictrasaviosjpentland, Hmm, well if nobody else has an answer then I'd say try cinnamon. But someone else may know better.10:45
Rorytovarish: Could you show me an example of differing output from "ls" and "env -i ls" ?10:45
tovarishRory, http://lpaste.net/9681710:47
Rorytovarish: I think it's the XTERM_LOCALE=en_US.UTF-810:49
Rorytovarish: That's what's causing Z to come "before" a10:49
KeyboardErrorRory: i fixed the keyboard error, i used the live cd to reinstall grub, and create a new grub config file and now the keyboard and mouse both work fine on the GDM login screen10:50
Rory!yay10:50
ubottuGlad you made it! :-)10:50
nictrasaviosKeyboardError, YAY!10:50
KeyboardErrorRory: i can not remember the name of the other chap who helped me, do u remember his name10:50
KeyboardErrornictrasavios: :-D10:50
Rory!cookie | Beldar10:50
ubottuBeldar: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!10:50
nictrasavios!yay | KeyboardError10:50
ubottuKeyboardError: please see above10:50
nictrasaviosHa, I didn't know that those commands existed.10:51
Rory!ubottu | nictrasavios10:51
ubottunictrasavios: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots10:51
KeyboardErrorBeldar: thanks for the help, i reinstalled grub and created a new config file, this fixed the keyboard error i was having.10:51
BeldarKeyboardError, cool.10:51
nictrasaviosRory, Merci!10:51
adema_ v v10:53
KeyboardErrorBeldar: i think the error may have something todo with i moved the (hd0,gpt4)/boot to (hd0,gpt1)/ and didnt update fstab, its a long shot but grub-install and grub-mkconfig did something and running them agian fixed it. thanks again10:53
nictrasaviosIf I can open and work on SegFault in SolidWorks VM without my computer becoming a lethargic sloth...  then I dub thee success.10:53
* cfhowlett thinks "Lethargic Sloth" is a GREAT distro name!10:56
NuSueyI can't see the internal GPU HDMI output in 12.04, http://i.imgur.com/zpgLwpt.png .. got one Monitor in the DP, the other in the DVI .. and the HDMI is in the internal GPU on the mainboard ..http://i.imgur.com/H17DBa7.png (5) I see the splash-screen (or verbose if I enabled it) on the HMDI - but the system detects only the monitors on the primary GPU10:58
NuSueyany idea?10:59
RoryNuSuey: What's the output of the command "lspci | grep VGA" ?10:59
NuSueyRory: oh sorry I'm not at home right now :/ at work atm10:59
tovarishRory, ho yes, you're right11:00
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tovarishthat's very strange that the universal locale change ls behavior11:00
Siyasaleniex: files are very small, I'm talking about 226 files totalling 12.4MB. I should not have any issue putting those on a 128MB CF card11:00
tovarishbut thank you very much for your help11:00
Rorytovarish: np, hope you can use that information somehow11:00
tovarishI will11:00
Rorytovarish: perhaps alias ls to LANG=C ls --colors=auto -F11:01
NuSueyRory: guess you can't help me without the output11:01
nictrasaviosOff topic, but does anybody know where I can get a monitor mount that can handle 3 27", and hang down from the ceiling like one of those dentist arms? I may build one of those.11:02
tollopwollop_holland is a nice place11:02
BeldarKeyboardError, no prob11:02
k1l_nictrasavios: tollopwollop_ we have a offtopic channel for chtichat: #ubuntu-offtopic11:02
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RoryNuSuey: What graphics device do you have?11:02
nictrasaviosk1l_, Thank you! New user here :3.11:02
tollopwollop_cucumbers11:03
NuSueyRory: amd radeon hd 6850 (sadly don't know the internal Intel GPU name) ..but this is my PC http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c02741889&lang=en&cc=us&contentType=SupportFAQ&prodSeriesId=503534411:03
* cfhowlett Zero tolerance time? I like it!11:03
VenkoGuys, what fun things should I do with my Ubuntu server?11:03
nictrasaviosVenko, World domination!11:04
Rorywtf is happening right now...11:04
RoryNuSuey: Do you have the AMD drivers installed from Additional Drivers tool?11:04
cfhowlettVenko, create a virus that will disable the alien invader's defense system11:04
RakhollVenko: hook it up to a Freedom Tower and spread free internet11:04
tovarishRory, yes you're right it's LANG and not XTERM_LOCALE which break ls, (How could I fail at testing)11:04
Rorytovarish: In your defense, it's not obvious11:04
VenkoKeep the suggestions coming. I'm sure we'll get one I like eventually11:05
RakhollVenko: Host an eternal dedicated server of Wings 211:05
NuSueyRory: I don't use the proprietary gpu drivers, they are giving me headaches.. but as far as I understood, since the problem is in the internal GPU output (since I'm using the HDMI output on the mainboard) the problem isn't with the AMD drivers, but the Intel ones? everything works on 13.10 .. but not on 12.04.. the problem is - what is missing in 12.0411:05
RoryNuSuey: Oh I see. Probably an Intel graphics driver in the kernel11:06
wekalanerhello11:07
NuSueyRory: well .. I used the same kernel 3.12 on 13.10 and 3.12 on 12.04 .. 13.10 detected the monitors, the 12.04 didnt11:07
RoryI'm not sure then NuSuey11:07
Rory!hi | wekalaner11:07
Roryaww did that command go?11:07
NuSueyRory: sry will go to lunch, brb in 30 min :/ if you have any idea.. just msg me11:08
wekalanerif i install the current version of ubuntu, will it be possible to upgrade to the new LTS in 2014 as soon as it comes out? in your experience, can i expect that the upgrade will work without a lot of problems? also, does the ubuntu installer allow me to use full disk encryption or do i have to do everything by hand?11:08
Rorywekalaner: You can upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04, and from 13.10 to 14.0411:08
Rorywekalaner: You can do full-disk encryption automatically by selecting that option as part of the guided partiotioner in the installer11:08
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ir601hi11:09
ir601ive just updated ubuntu from 13.04 to 13.10 and my wifi is no longer working11:09
maltcan you ssh console command another remote computer with ubuntu default install? or do you got to install software11:09
Roryir601: What wifi device do you have?11:09
Rorymalt: You need to install openssh-server on the target system11:09
nictrasavioswekalaner, and I can teach you how to make your computer reply with "Access Denied" and "Access Granted" instead of "cryptsetup: - blah blah blah"11:10
Rorymalt: The client-side program "ssh" is already installed11:10
ir601ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00queue_write_tx_frame_11:10
ir601is the error11:10
ir601its a ra link i belive11:10
Rorynictrasavios: Can you make it do this? http://rory.sh/403.html11:10
Roryir601: Do you have another way of accessing the Internet on that device?11:10
ir601yes i can use ehternet11:11
Roryir601: Can you please pastebin the output of "lspci -v" ?11:11
RoryPlease paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel11:11
ir601lspci lists it as RT329011:11
ir601gah ok 1 sec11:11
Roryir601: No that's fine11:12
Roryir601: that was all I needed really11:12
ir601oh ok11:12
Roryir601: Can you show me the output of: modinfo rt2800pci | grep 329011:12
ir601sure 1 sec11:12
Siyasaleniex: Work WinXP build (running in VM) identified the issue. Due to size the CF card gets formatted as FAT16 by Ununtu which has a restrictively small FAT table. I ran out of table size before I ran out if disk size...11:13
Siyaformatted it FAT32 and now all is working11:13
ir601alias: pci:v00001814d00003290sv*sd*bc*sc*i*11:14
Roryir601: Great now can you run: sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree && sudo rmmod rt2800pci && sudo modprobe rt2800pci11:14
ir601hrm11:16
ir601unable to download11:16
ir6011sec11:16
Roryir601: can you run apt-get update first, and if you still get an error, pastebin the full output11:17
ir601dns is buggard for some reason11:17
Roryir601: I'll let you fix it. *buggered11:17
NprogHi, How to reset unity.11:19
ir601ok sorry for the wait11:19
Rory!details | Nprog11:19
ubottuNprog: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."11:19
RoryNprog: Do you mean reset all the settings?11:19
nictrasaviosNprog, Or simply restart?11:19
Nprogno11:20
Nprogis a bug11:20
nictrasaviosNprog, What kinda bug?11:20
RoryI've heard that before, this morning11:20
Rorynictrasavios: Can you provide some details on what actual problem you're experiencing?11:20
RoryNprog: ^11:20
Nprogthe window is not in top11:20
nictrasaviosRory, Well, its a little hard to describe, you see, sometimes when me and the mrs are alone... - Kidding :P.11:21
nictrasaviosNprog, Which window?11:21
Brandanohow can I set the execution order of an init.d script?11:22
ir601rory11:22
Brandanoon 12.0411:22
ir601that completed succesfully11:22
RoryBrandano: What do you mean by execution order?11:22
Nproglike the image11:22
Roryir601: OK, do you have wifi now?11:22
ir601wow!11:23
ir601thanks man!!!!!!11:23
RoryNprog: Can you describe your issue, bearing in mind we can't see what you can see? We only know what you tell us11:23
ir601oh wait it d/c11:23
RoryNo problem, glad I could help :)11:23
Roryoh11:23
Roryreboot ftw :P11:23
BrandanoRory: I have created a new init script for ASSP, an SMTP proxy. I'd like it to start after MySQL and Clamd hve been already started11:23
ir601lol ok 1 sec11:23
nictrasaviosNprog, Alright, I'm not following. Can you please describe the situation in detail?11:23
ir601rory what was the cause?11:24
BrandanoRory: I need some upstart documentation, I guess11:24
ir601out of date wifi drivers from 13.04?11:24
NprogI do not know how to say, just like the picture so11:24
RoryBrandano: You can edit /etc/init/your_script.conf and change its "start on" clause to include "and started mysql"11:25
lpapphi, what is the best way to replace lshd with openssh?11:25
bazhang!upstart | Brandano11:25
ubottuBrandano: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/11:25
lpappi.e. how to stop the lshd service permanently, or star the openssh permanently11:25
bazhang!find lshd11:25
lpapp(i.e. preserving the state after boot)11:25
Rory!cn > Nprog11:25
ubottuFile lshd found in lsh-server11:25
ubottuNprog, please see my private message11:25
bazhanginstall lsh-server lpapp11:26
lpappbazhang: huh?11:26
BrandanoThanks Rory, bazhang11:26
lpappI wanna *get* rid of lshd.11:26
bazhangor the reverse11:26
nictrasaviosRory, I was just about to ask if that was possible. Thanks!11:27
bazhang!find openssh11:27
ubottuFound: openssh-blacklist, openssh-blacklist-extra, openssh-client, openssh-server, libconfig-model-openssh-perl11:27
ir601yeah rory same situation as before11:27
ir601:/11:27
bazhangso install openssh-server lpapp11:27
Roryir601: I've seen reports that a later upstream kernel can fix this, is that something you're happy to do?11:28
Roryir601: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/11/linux-kernel-3-12-released-install-ubuntu-or-linux-mint/11:28
lpappbazhang: it is already installed, but like I said, that is not enough.11:28
ir601lets give this a wack11:28
lpappbazhang: the lshd service has to disabled, and the openssh has to be enabled.11:29
bazhanglpapp, then detail your requirements11:29
lpappor you are claiming to reinstall the package because that will set the right service up?11:29
wekalanerthanks Rory11:31
Rorywekalaner: /np11:31
Roryoh that doesn't work, I can't weechat11:31
RoryNo problem, glad I could help :)11:31
KaxoGiven that y is inversely proportional to x, when y = 5 when x = 7, find the value of x when y = 7011:32
KaxoRory, would you like to help?11:32
Rory!ot | Kaxo11:32
ubottuKaxo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!11:32
KaxoI have an Math exam tomorrow.11:32
wekalaneri had installed debian wheezy over the weekend, however, my i217 ethernet card required me to upgrade the kernel - while updating there was a problem with the initramfs generation, so i broke the system twice. i just do not want to deal with these problems so i decided to go for ubuntu11:32
Kaxooh sorry, wrong channel.11:32
KaxoI thought I was in #maths.11:32
Kaxosorry :)11:32
Walexwekalaner: regardless with Linux kernels you should buy only hw known to be supported, not buy random hw and hope it is supported.11:33
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Walexwekalaner: also, Debian has a backported kernel with newer drivers, and even the 'stable' drivers get updated once or twice a year.11:33
wekalanerWalex: my hardware is supported, i just need a recent kernel version in contrast to 3.0.2 which is the default in wheezy11:33
Walexwekalaner: for the kernel you use...11:34
wekalanerWalex: i used the backported kernel. however, there was a problem with initramfs generation11:34
lpappanyone?11:34
Walexwekalaner: sometimes you can't win :-)11:34
wekalaneri was restricted to particular hardware is a made a hackintosh. linux is just my alternativ/second choice os for particular tasks11:34
Walexlpapp: Bueller? Bueller? :-)11:34
lpapphuh?11:34
wekalanerwell, i will give ubuntu a go and hope that it does disappoint me :)11:35
wekalaner*not11:35
Walexlpapp: the best way for repeating questions is: repeat them *in full*, not more frequently than about every 5-10 minutes11:35
ActionParsnipwekalaner: run it off a USB stick with a large persistance...11:35
ActionParsnipwekalaner: Precise which is the earliest supported release uses 3.2 but can use 3.8 using backports11:36
ActionParsnipwekalaner: all I can really say is - suck it and see11:36
Walexlpapp: BTW there was a popular TV series in the USA set in a college where a teacher would ask a question and then add "anyone? anyone? Bueller?" as the teacher thought that Bueller was the star student.11:36
wekalanerrun what of a usb stick?11:36
lpapp11:21 < lpapp> hi, what is the best way to replace lshd with openssh?11:36
lpapp11:21 < lpapp> i.e. how to stop the lshd service permanently, or star the openssh permanently11:36
lpapp11:21 < lpapp> (i.e. preserving the state after boot)11:36
Walexlpapp: uninstall 'lshd' and install 'openssh-server'11:37
Rorylol I bet Kaxo didn't get his maths homework done for him in #maths :P11:37
Walexlpapp: unfortunately in Debian-derived systems services are started permanently as soon as they are installed, and viceversa obviously.11:38
lpappWalex: what the f...... strange!11:38
ActionParsnipwekalaner: Ubuntu, you can run it off the usb like a live cd, but faster as USB is a lot faster than optical11:38
ir601Rory THANK YOU11:38
lpappdpkg -l \*shd\*11:38
lpappNo packages found matching *shd*.11:38
Walexlpapp: Debian derived systems make the assumption that if you install some service you always want to run it.11:38
ir601:D11:38
Roryir601: It works now?11:38
wekalaneri see, thanks for the suggestion11:38
ir601yeah perfectly11:39
nictrasaviosWalex, Which makes it fun when you want to secure them...11:39
RoryGood to hear11:39
Walexlpapp: it is an assumption that annoye me, e.g. on a laptop.11:39
Walexnictrasavios: it is not so much secure, because they are supposed to be secure in their default configuration, and Debian Developers take that seriously.11:40
sisyphuSorry for my ignorance, how can I defend against arp attack with arpON?11:40
lpappWalex: it is just stupid11:40
Rorysisyphu: Did you read the arpON docs?11:40
gdi2khi all, I have added a NIC to my machine (in addition to the 2 onboard). I see it in lspci but it doesn't show up in ifconfig11:40
VenkoWalex: What about those ssh keys? >.>11:40
lpappWalex: what is the name of lshd?11:40
lpappexecutable and package?11:40
nictrasaviosWalex, Yeah, but they are not always right. They can't make some changes because it would inconvenience many.11:40
Walexlpapp: 'dpkg -S lshd' and/or 'apt-cache search lshd'11:41
Rorygdi2k: ifup interface_name11:41
sisyphuRory: Yeah but confused11:41
Rorysisyphu: What about this tutorial http://redes-privadas-virtuales.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/shutting-out-arp-poisoning-and-spoofing.html11:41
nictrasavios!man | sisyphu11:41
ubottusisyphu: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the  command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal | Manpages online: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/11:41
Walexnictrasavios: it is more because it is a part of Debian Policy and changes to Debian Policy have to be discussed widely and let's say rather animatedly :-)11:42
lpappWalex: ah, it is lssh-server11:42
lpapplsh*11:42
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lpappWalex: that is interesting that lsh-server is installed along with openssh-server11:42
lpappthe last one installed will take precedence for the running service?11:42
Walexlpapp: I also recommend installing 'dlocate' and 'apt-file'11:42
teclo-He said it11:42
teclo-he said Ubuntu11:42
Walexlpapp: that's one of the things with Debian-based distros: they benefit from things like 'alternatives'11:43
Walexlpapp: or 'dpkg-divert'.11:43
nictrasaviosWalex, true. Still, makes it annoying.11:43
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gdi2kRory: Thanks, but how do I find the interface name? I have eth0 and eth1 from the existing onboard NICs, but eth3 doesn't work: Ignoring unknown interface eth3=eth3.11:43
nictrasaviosWhy are so many pingouts and joins happening?11:43
Walexgdi2k: 'ip link show;11:43
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gdi2kWalex: It's not there :( only lo, eth0 and eth111:44
Rorynictrasavios: It's a busy channel and lots of people have it on autojoin11:44
Walexgdi2k: try 'lspci' to double check.11:44
nictrasaviosRory, Any way to disable those messages?11:44
Rorynictrasavios: what client?11:44
cfhowlettnictrasavios, xchat allow you silence the ins/outs11:44
gdi2kit's there: 04:07.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc DGE-528T Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev 10)11:44
nuclearnadalhttp://www.linux.org/threads/do-not-use-ubuntu.3977/ ??11:44
nictrasaviosI'm on xChat11:44
lpappWalex: http://pastebin.kde.org/p7nwrleua11:45
cfhowlettnictrasavios, right click on the channel, see the setttings11:45
lpappcannot remove lshd apparently.11:45
Rorynictrasavios:  Right-click on the tab you want to change. In the submenu of the channel name, there's a toggle-item "Show join/part messages", simply turn this off.11:45
nictrasaviosThank you! Any way to make it global?11:45
Rorynictrasavios: /set irc_conf_mode 111:45
Rorynictrasavios: Then all channels you join after setting this will start with "Show join/part messages" turned off.11:45
Walexgdi2k: try 'dmesg | egrep '04:07|eth[^01]'11:45
nictrasaviosRory: cfhowlett: Thank you both!11:46
lpappWalex: I am trying to uninstall lshd behind ssh11:46
lpapp:D11:46
lpappI can only uninstall it from the server room??11:46
nuclearnadalis that fake or what ? http://www.linux.org/threads/do-not-use-ubuntu.3977/11:46
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Walexlpapp: first of all such work is best done in a 'screen' in general.11:46
Rory!fud | nuclearnadal11:46
ubottunuclearnadal: Please do not fall prey to, or spread FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) - it is not welcome here!  Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt11:46
gdi2kWalex: thanks, but not there: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/374813811:47
Walexlpapp: note also that 'invoke-rc.d' no longer necessarily work with Ubuntu, which uses 'upstart' for most services.11:47
Walexlpapp: try first 'service lsh-server stop; service lshd stop'11:48
lpapplshd: unrecognized service11:48
Walexlpapp: whatever the name is...11:48
lpappok, uninstalled.11:48
lpappnow reinstall openssh-server?11:48
Walexlpapp: I hope that you are not connected with 'lshd' right now...11:48
lpappof course I am.11:49
nictrasaviosOf course they would. By sending those strings, they have a program (not a human) index the strings to improve search results. I'd be shocked if they didn't.11:49
Walexlpapp: yes, or just 'service ssh start'11:49
Rorywe'll see in 240 seconds when he ping timeouts :P11:49
lpappWalex: apt-get install --reinstall openssh-server went fine.11:49
lpappsudo netstat -anp |grep 22 |grep LISTEN11:49
lpapptcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      15462/sshd11:49
lpapptcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN      15462/sshd11:49
Walexlpapp: now, without logging out, open a second 'ssh' connection.11:50
Walexlpapp: you know, just for testing...11:50
lpappI already logged out11:50
Walexlpapp: you are a huge optimist :-).11:50
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lpappbut it fixed my sftp issue11:50
lpappwhy?11:50
lpappit does work11:50
Roryohh I've been bitten by that one11:50
gdi2kWalex: I bought it because Linux Hardware Guide says "is supported by Linux kernel Versions 2.4, 2.6 and 3.0 out-of-the-box". http://www.linux-hardware-guide.com/2012-04-08-d-link-dge-528t-gigabit-ethernet-adapter-100010010mbit-pci-bus-2-2-32-bit-netzwerkkarte11:50
Rorylpapp: If it hadn't worked, you'd be locked out11:50
nictrasaviosnuclearnadal, None of that is actually bad. Infact, the kind of "survallence" (which it really isn't) is used by every mainstream website out there to improve user expriance. They aren't "watching you" they are sampling data from their user base to improve their program, how else would they figure out how to improve their content.11:50
lpappRory: right.11:51
Walexlpapp: in my experience you *never* let go of a working connection until you have fully tested that the sw that allows you to do the connection works.11:51
Rorylpapp: unless you want a red-faced late-night call to the on-call datacentre engineers11:51
lpappRory: actually the server machine is a few metres away11:52
Walexbut it is very easy to forget and logout automatically.11:52
Rorylpapp: Ah that's OK then11:52
Walexgdi2k: IIRC that card is indeed supported11:52
WalexRory: no, it is not ok, because it is impotan to develop that habit so you can rely on it "by instinct" for the cases where it matters...11:53
RoryRemote KVM master race11:53
Walexgdi2k: the reason why I asked you to look at the logs is to see why ever it is not being recognized. Because it should...11:54
gdi2kWalex: could it be conflicting with the onboard cards? (I bought this because the oboards are giving me endless headaches): 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 03)11:54
Walexgdi2k: yes indeed, but unlikely. Whatever the reason is most likely it is somewhere in the logs.11:55
Walexgdi2k: also most likely you can 'remmod' the relevant driver and 'modprobe' it again to see fresh log messages11:55
Walexgdi2k: BTW those Realtek chips are bit crude, but they ought to be  work fairly well with the right driver.11:56
gdi2kWalex: Thanks, will work on it. It's a bit tricky as it's a remote server and I'm very likely to lock mysefl out...11:56
Walexgdi2k: well, you are connected via the Realtek cards obviously, and the driver module will be completely different.11:56
nictrasaviosSolidWorks works beautifully on VMWare!11:58
gdi2kWalex: Yes, the existing cards are working at the moment. Going for the brute-force approach - having the onboard NICs disabled in BIOS and hoping it gets itself a DHCP address on reboot...11:58
Walexgdi2k: why? That's an unncessary risk.11:59
ActionParsnipgdi2k: you can tell an interface to get address via dhcp via dhclient eth1   etc11:59
gdi2kWalex: I can re-enable it if need be, I have some remote hands11:59
Guest68122can any one describe what wine does in one line? it takes the windows app and run its code? then converts the code to linux code? any sort of reverse engineering?11:59
ActionParsnipGuest68122: its translates DirectX calls to native Linux calls11:59
Walexgdi2k: or anyhow with 'ifup eth3', the problem is that you don't have an 'eth3' of course.11:59
Walexgdi2k: wait a sec. let me look again at your stuff, I was a bit distracted.12:00
cfhowlettGuest68122, what ActionParsnip said + "with varying degrees of success"12:00
ActionParsnipGuest68122: Wine is a compatibility layer. It duplicates functions of Windows by providing alternative implementations of the DLLs that Windows programs call,[4] and a process to substitute for the Windows NT kernel12:00
ActionParsnipGuest68122: source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_%28software%2912:00
Walexgdi2k: wait a sec. I just double checked and the DGE-528 has got a Realtek chip too :-)12:01
Guest68122ActionParsnip,  cfhowlett  how wine knows the code without even knowing the code of the application?12:02
gdi2kWalex: yes, it's all realtek, that's why I thought it's perhaps a conflict12:02
Walexgdi2k: and I used to have a Realtek on a couple of machines. I vaguely remember that there is more than one Realtek driver, and/or it needs a parameter.12:03
ActionParsnipGuest68122: thats where lots of trial and error and research comes in12:03
Walexgdi2k: which kernel version have you got?12:03
NuSueyRory: guess you didn't have any more ideas.. yea12:03
Walexgdi2k: also from http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/ethernet-card-dge-528t-and-kernel-2-6-a-350564/ I see that the hw code for the card is 1186:430012:05
Walexgdi2k: and if you do 'grep 0x0*1186.0x0*4300 /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/modules.pcimap' it will tell you which module supports it12:06
gdi2kWalex: thanks, will check it out. Was hoping this was going to be super easy as the onboard ones were such a headache. Anyway, I disabled the onboards in BIOS, but no dice. It doesn't configure itself12:06
gdi2kWalex: Will try when it comes back up on the onboard NCIs12:06
NerdKellyIf when installing ubuntu I create the /home directory on a seperate drive, can I preserve this should I need to re-install  sometime in the future?12:07
cfhowlettNerdKelly, indeed.  that's the primary benefit of a dedicated /home.  just don't format it.12:07
ulrichardAnybody an idea here, why gpg-agent starts without support for shh, even if configured in gpg-agent.conf? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=218746312:08
NerdKellycool12:08
michael_load r8101 module, but no eth0  device, any hint would be greatly appreciated12:11
NuSueyis it okay to ask the same question which I asked a hour or so before, or is it considered rude?12:11
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michael_it is ubuntu 13.1012:12
gdi2kWalex: Thanks for your help! A simple loading of r8169 did the trick. The onboard devices are using r816812:13
gdi2kWalex: Not understanding why that didn't happen automatically...12:13
NuSueyI can't see the internal GPU HDMI output in 12.04, http://i.imgur.com/zpgLwpt.png .. got one Monitor in the DP, the other in the DVI .. and the HDMI is in the internal GPU on the mainboard ..http://i.imgur.com/H17DBa7.png (5) I see the splash-screen (or verbose if I enabled it) on the HMDI - but the system detects only the monitors on the primary GPU12:14
NuSuey(everything works on 13.10 but not on 12.04)12:14
gdi2kWalex: Follow up: I had blacklisted r8169 when I tried installing Realtek OEM drivers for the onboard devices. It all makes sense now! I'm a lemonhead. :/12:15
Blasteranyone here use bitcoin-qt?  It keeps crashing on me, and I can't find anything in the debug.log12:16
lar4Hi. I plugged in a second monitor of different resolution and now one monitor displays the opened windows and another displays the task and menu bars. How can I use each with a different desktop?12:17
michael_sudo modprobe r8169, it does not have eth0  yet12:17
gdi2kmicheal_: try lspci -v it should tell you which module it needs12:18
lar4forget the question, nevermind :)12:18
ulrichardBlaster: bitcoin-qt started to crash on my underpowered devices some months ago. On machines with enough computing power and memory, I had no issues so far.12:19
Blasterif bitcoin runs out of ram does it just crash?12:19
michael_lspci -v,  no information about ethernet controller12:19
BlasterI only have 1024 M allocated to that machine12:19
ulrichardBlaster: I don't actually know why, but it usually hogged the CPU for a while and all of a sudden it crashed. After about every sixth crash, the block chain needed reindexing. So, I don't use it on these devices anymore.12:21
BlasterI would have thought the software would be pretty reliable on ubuntu12:21
ulrichardBlaster: That's probably not enough. You could try with bitcoind, but I don't think it makes much difference. Somebody told me to reduce the max connections, but I never actually tried.12:22
ulrichardBlaster: A year ago, it even worked on an alix with only 256MB RAM.12:23
ActionParsnipdoesnt the cost of power outweigh the value of bitcoins?12:23
lucasredsn0whdon:here?12:23
OerHeksActionParsnip, maybe with a ULV cluster12:23
ulrichardActionParsnip: only if you beleve outdated charts that still calculate with the power consumption of CPU's for mining.12:24
michael_r8105e is an network chip integrated into onboard12:24
Blasterulrichard:  hasn't crashed since I updated to 2048 M12:24
Blasterfingeys crossed12:25
michael_lspci -v, no ethernet controller appear, ethernet controller is bad?12:33
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ActionParsnipmichael_: try:   sudo lshw -C network12:35
BluesKajHiyas all12:36
michael_sudo lshw -C network, nothing output12:37
PebkacJonestest12:38
ActionParsnipmichael_: not even  'PCISYS' ?12:38
PebkacJones:)12:38
michael_PCISYS, it does appear, but no result12:38
ActionParsnipmichael_: wait, your PCI bus is slow12:39
michael_pci bus is slow, how to do next12:39
ActionParsnipmichael_: wait, it will come12:39
michael_it has done, then return back to command line12:40
ActionParsnipmichael_: or do you have your prompt back already?12:40
michael_yes, back to prompt12:41
ActionParsnipmichael_: is the Ethernet enabled in BIOS?12:41
ActionParsnipmichael_: do you dual boot?12:41
michael_single booot12:41
ActionParsnipmichael_: is the Ethernet enabled in BIOS?12:41
michael_only  wake on boardlan, no the ethernet enable option in BIOS12:43
ActionParsnipmichael_: are the lights flashing around the RJ45 port?12:43
michael_the flashing is lighting12:43
ResQuehow can i change the grub resolution form the grub shell?12:43
michael_the lights is on around the RJ45 port12:44
ActionParsnipmichael_: thats good. Are there any lines in dmesg relating to the interface?12:45
michael_in dmesg , there are two lines12:46
ActionParsnipmichael_: what do they say>12:46
michael_realtek: no valid ssid, checking pincfg 0x40a4c601 for nid 0x1d12:47
michael_realtek: enabling init ASM_ID=0xc601 CODEC_ID=10ec066212:47
michael_not any others12:48
michael_what should i check12:52
michael_what is the problem?12:56
ActionParsnipmichael_: is this a new NIC?12:59
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ActionParsnip!rootirc > Guest6812212:59
ubottuGuest68122, please see my private message12:59
ActionParsnip!rootirc > Guest916112:59
ubottuGuest9161, please see my private message12:59
michael_it is a new NIC13:00
michael_integrated NIC13:00
ActionParsnipmichael_: could be faulty, tried a new PCI slowe?13:00
ActionParsnipslot*13:00
ActionParsnipmichael_: oh, integrated13:00
michael_yes,integrated nic13:00
Guest9161hello13:01
Guest9161whats up guys13:01
shuvarekthe sky?13:02
Guest9161sky13:02
Guest9161what does mean ?13:02
shuvareklook up and you will see :)13:03
michael_oh, it may be faulty13:03
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cfhowlettGuest9161, what is your ubuntu issue?13:03
shuvarek(maybe before you have to go outside)13:03
shuvarekcfhowlett:  my issue is that xfce crashing but and I even thought about using unity13:04
cfhowlettshuvarek, are you in ubuntu or xubuntu?13:04
shuvarekbut I need to have some kind controls which shows me internet/memory/disk usage13:05
ActionParsnipshuvarek: conky can do that13:05
shuvarekand not conky as I would like to see it when I use other applications13:05
shuvarekProblem is I use computer with small memory13:06
Guest9161./joined #linuxac13:06
shuvarekand when it started slowing down, I cannot see the conky13:06
shuvarekI need something what I can see everytime on panel, like in previous gnome, or xfce13:07
shuvarekIs it possible in unity?13:07
Guest9161./joine#linuxac13:07
Pusztitoblackpanther.hu13:08
shuvarekI am on xubuntu, but when I talk to much about other de on that chanel they told me that it is off-topic13:08
shuvarekso I came here because I think about unity too13:08
cfhowlettshuvarek, try lxde13:08
cfhowlettshuvarek, should be marginally lighter than xfce13:09
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shuvarekI am using it (not now) but when I had the problem I installed it, but it is too primitive for my liking13:09
shuvarekeven keyboard layoout I have to do from console13:09
Ben64shuvarek: well what are the specs of your computer13:09
shuvarekBen64:  netbook samsung nc11013:10
Ben64yeah you should be running lxde13:10
shuvareknice small thing, I have few systems on it (but usually use only one)13:10
cfhowlettshuvarek, xubuntu / lubuntu are your recommended options13:11
Rory!pm > nuclearnadal13:11
ubottunuclearnadal, please see my private message13:11
shuvarekI thought also about mate, trinity, e17/18 and unity13:11
shuvarekBen64:  even in xfce I put one panel on the left (like in unity) so I can have more space to read13:12
shuvarekBen64:  and I like xfce, but it crashes too much13:13
shuvarekBen64:  has this same problem before when I used 12.04 (now on 13.10)13:14
cfhowlettshuvarek, find/fix the reason for the crashes or try the other DE's13:14
shuvarekcfhowlett:  what about unity, how much ram it needs, and is it possible to do what I ask on beginning?13:15
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shuvarekcfhowlett:  (see the processor/memory/network ussage)13:15
Ben64you're not going to have a fun time with an atom and 1GB of ram on unity13:16
compdocsome ppl have a lower threashold for fun than others13:16
shuvarekBen64:  so probably try with e17/18 or other13:17
shuvarekBen64:  will see13:18
cfhowlettshuvarek, unity is highly demanding which is why almost everyone will recommend you use an alternate DE.  xfce and lxde are known light alternatives13:18
shuvarekcfhowlett:  I used to try bodhi linux some time ago (maybe one or few years) and it was interesting13:19
shuvarekcfhowlett:  do not remember why I did not use it, if I have any problem with it, so maybe it is time to give it a try13:20
cfhowlettshuvarek, unlike many, you are clearly comfortable with installing and testing alternate DE's.  Kudos.  Try them all - they're free.  When you find the one you like, keep it!  Best of luck to you.13:21
shuvarekcfhowlett:  thakns13:21
Ruler-how do i take screenshot of current window. alt + printscreen takes screenshot of the "type your command" bar13:21
RoryRuler-: Usability papercut. I use something like Shutter13:22
RedLylehello13:24
aptgethello RedLyle13:24
RedLyleI am new to ubuntu and just found the irc13:25
aptgetRedLyle: welcome to ubuntu...by the way what is your irc client you're using now? irssi / weechat / xchat etc?13:26
RedLylexchat13:27
RedLylei just installed a newer version of linux (Pinguy) and have been playing around in it13:27
MonkeyDustRedLyle: unfortunately, pinguy is not supported here13:29
RedLyleis there a chat that does have users with pinguy?13:30
Questcan linux install on bsd FSs?13:30
aptgetRedLyle: i am not sure... try #pinguy13:31
MonkeyDustRedLyle: #pinguyos13:31
RedLylethanks13:31
philinux#PinguyOS13:32
philinuxMonkeyDust;~ seems they use capitals13:32
Roryphilinux: Channel names are case-insensitive13:33
philinuxRory;~ ah ok - probably good idea that13:34
enbergjwhy doesn't reinstalling MySQL actually reinstall properly? I do apt-get purge mysql-server mysql-server-5.5, rm -rf /etc/mysql /var/lib/mysql, and then apt-get install mysql-server-5.5, and then starting the service will fail because the table mysql.host doesn't exist?13:35
Roryenbergj: sudo apt-get purge mysql-server mysql-client mysql-common mysql-client-5.5 mysql-server-5.513:42
enbergjbut why would I uninstall mysql-client and mysql-common to uninstall the server, that makes no sense at all13:42
RoryYou could manually run sudo dpkg --reconfigure mysql-server13:42
Roryenbergj: And I think there's a command mysql_install_db13:43
mayocould not find libjava.so on ubuntu 13.1013:43
Rory!details | mayo13:44
ubottumayo: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."13:44
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mayoOk. I freshly installed Ubuntu 13.10. I installed Java using webupd8 instructions. When I run "java -version", the result is fine. But when I run "javac -version", two errors occurred.13:46
jackwill trusty be LTS?13:46
mayo1. could not find libjava.so13:46
Rorymayo: Did you actually install javac?13:46
Rorymayo: The java packages to run java programs, and the javac packages to compile java programs are different13:46
jackRory, will trusty be LTS?13:46
Roryjack: yes13:46
mayoError: could not find libjava.so13:46
Rory!lts13:46
mayoError: Could not find Java SE Runtime Environment.13:46
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)13:46
enbergjI dunno, I tried that purge and then install, but it seems to freeze during install .. I'll give it a few more min, but it's already been a few min13:46
jackcool, thx13:46
Rorymayo: sudo apt-get install javac13:46
mayoUnable to locate package javac13:47
ChromeOSFear God or Perish13:47
RoryChromeOS: Not here thanks13:47
enbergjisn't that openjdk-7-jdk or something like that?13:48
Roryyeah I think so13:48
Rory!find javac13:48
ubottuFound: javacc, javacc-doc, libjavacc-maven-plugin-java, libplexus-compiler-javac-java13:48
ChromeOSIf you dont fear God and obey the son there will be wrath(John 3:36)13:48
BluesKajhe's baaaack !13:48
mayoNo. It is java-7-oracle13:48
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mayolibjava.so is found13:48
mayoRory13:49
ActionParsnipChromeOS: this is support, do you have an Ubuntu support question?13:49
Rorymayo: java-7-oracle is only from that PPA and doesn't include a compiler13:49
ChromeOSActionParsnip: no13:49
ChromeOSActionParsnip: If you dont fear God and obey the son there will be wrath(John 3:36)13:49
ActionParsnipChromeOS: then kindly be quiet or assist others13:49
ChromeOSIf you dont fear God and obey the son there will be wrath(John 3:36)If you dont fear God and obey the son there will be wrath(John 3:36)13:49
ActionParsnip!ops | ChromeOS13:49
ubottuChromeOS: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!13:49
ActionParsnipChromeOS: bye13:49
mayoRory is there way to remove the java installed so far and for afresh13:49
Rorymayo: You don't need to remove anything. The java compiler and the java runtime are different13:50
Rorymayo: sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk13:50
impradeepymayo:http://openjdk.java.net/install/13:51
vaibhavhi13:52
Roryimpradeepy: No need to download things from websites, there's a package in the repositories13:52
Guest47781what is the current state of Bluray playback in Ubuntu? All I find is from 2012 or earlier, I'd like to know if there were advances and if we can playback normally13:53
impradeepyrory:just to tell whether he needs to develep java progms or just the java run time environment13:53
mayoRory: I installed same thing on 12.04LTS. It worked then. But now, it nags me off13:53
RoryYou'll have to be more specific mayo13:53
mayoimpradeepy: I want both13:53
Rorymayo: to run java programs it's openjdk-7-jre - to compile java programs it's openjdk-7-jdk13:54
jackGuest47781, better ask the mplayer devs13:54
jnhghyI'm having a hard time making php work with sqlite, I've even reinsatlled php and all the modules but still no go... can anyone help?13:54
Guest47781jack, is there a channel over freenode?13:55
mayoRory: Does Eclipse support Open JDK?13:55
Rorymayo: Can you please run "sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk && javac -version" and put the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com so I can see the problem?13:55
Rorymayo: Yes13:55
Rorymayo: OpenJDK is the reference implementation13:55
impradeepymayo:rory just told you  as he said you need to be more specific regarding your needs13:55
Rorymayo: Did you run those commands? Did it produce an error?13:58
g105bHi, I'm using Ubuntu 13.10 and would really like to get some support using Wine to set up a new IMAP mail account for use in Outlook 2010. When I run control.exe, I can open the usual Mail settings window, but when it comes to typing the server configuration this is all I get: http://i.imgur.com/bgPRJPS.png The fields are not drawn correctly, and clicking on next crashes the application.13:59
mayoRory:I did not install another related package. I installed and it worked fine. Thank You for your guidance.13:59
Roryyou're welcome mayo14:00
Roryg105b: I'd ask in #winehq if I were you, they might be able to help better14:00
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jp-or use thunderbird which has way better imap support than any version of outlook.14:01
jackGuest47781, no clue sorry14:01
jp-or even evolution which is also better with imap.14:02
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Mr_Quisthi guys14:13
Mr_Quisti have a quick question, i need a fast way to change ~5000 0755 files to 064414:13
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Mr_Quistis there a way to list all 0755 files from a certain directory and push them into "chmod 0644" ?14:14
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enbergjMr_Quist: find /path/to/fonder -perm 0755 -exec chmod 0644 {} \;14:14
enbergj*folder14:14
Mr_Quistcool14:14
Mr_Quistthats what i was looking for14:15
Mr_Quistthanks enbergj :)14:15
enbergjwait14:15
enbergjif you don't want it to touch directories, add -type f14:15
enbergjafter the path14:15
Mr_Quistah cool14:15
Mr_Quistso "{}" is a placeholder for the arguments returned from "find" ?14:16
enbergjyes14:16
Mr_Quistand \; is a command delimiter on the "-exec"14:16
enbergjfind is one of the most useful tools in linux, worth learning14:16
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enbergjyes14:16
Mr_Quistso it execs chmod 0644 file1;chmod 0644 file2;chmod 0644 file3;14:16
Mr_Quistcool :)14:16
enbergjsomething like that14:16
Mr_Quisti know find indeed14:16
Mr_Quistdidn't know how to pass variables / references properly14:16
Mr_Quistcheers :D14:17
enbergjyou can optimize that with \+ at the end iirc, which gives the command as many arguments as it can until reaching the max length or something14:17
PiciMr_Quist: Be aware, that -exec doesn't do well with filenames with spaces in them.14:17
Mr_Quistit doesn't14:17
Mr_Quist?14:17
Mr_Quistokay14:17
Mr_Quistnow if i were to search for certain files with extensions14:18
Mr_Quisti know i can use the * as a wildcard14:18
Mr_Quistbut what if i want it to be recursive?14:18
enbergjwell you can put quotes around the {} and it should work14:18
PiciMr_Quist: use -name or -iname "*.foo"14:18
Mr_Quistfind public/images -name *.png -perm 064414:18
ezt3612Mr_Quist: you must quote14:18
Mr_Quistwill show all .png's in public/images (and child nodes) with permission 0644 ?14:19
ezt3612find public/images -name "*.png" -perm 064414:19
enbergjput quotes around "*.png"14:19
Mr_Quistfind public/scripts -iname "*.png" -perm 0644 -exec chmod 0755 {} \;14:19
Mr_Quistcool14:19
Stanley00actually, single quote will work better :D14:19
enbergjMr_Quist: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/422963/removing-directories-with-spaces-with-bash14:19
ezt3612Mr_Quist: otherwise the shell can possibly expand *.png to a list of filename of the current dir14:20
enbergjMr_Quist: on a side note, why do you want to add the execute bit to PNGs?14:20
ezt3612good question :)14:20
Mr_Quistoh the problem is that i've built ~ 5000 JS files14:21
Mr_Quist(on windows, damnit)14:21
Mr_Quistso my git whines about file permission changes14:21
enbergjusually that stinks like trying to hack a CGI system by uploading images ;)14:21
Mr_Quistnow with checkout -- i'd remove my changes as well14:21
Mr_Quistso i want to put back the original file perms14:21
enbergjyeah, so your actual case is *.js and from 0755 to 0644? ;)14:22
Mr_Quistdamnit14:22
Mr_Quistyes14:22
Mr_Quisthahah14:22
enbergjwell using those args might work produce a more desirable result ;)14:22
Mr_Quisthahah yeah i just thuoght of that14:22
Mr_Quistim sorry, im in my rehab phase of energydrinks14:22
Mr_Quistthanks anyway :)14:23
amitprakashHi, I am getting a name 'WSGIPythonHome' is not defined, how do I resolve this?14:24
Mr_Quisti think i just leveled up on *nix CLI14:24
Mr_Quistapt-get install python*14:24
Mr_Quistim kidding amitprakash don't do that14:24
enbergjdon't do that14:24
enbergjamitprakash: step 1) give us more information14:24
Mr_Quisthttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/8660896/mod-wsgi-isnt-honoring-wsgipythonhome14:24
amitprakashenbergj, woudl you like the wsgi file in question?14:25
Mr_Quisti quote "Your mod_wsgi is likely compiled against a different Python version than you are trying to force it to use. "14:25
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amitprakashMr_Quist, is that from SO ? :P14:25
enbergjamitprakash: no14:25
Mr_Quistamitprakash, yes.14:25
enbergj!details | amitprakash14:26
ubottuamitprakash: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."14:26
enbergjah, that worked14:26
enbergjso yeah .. you're basically saying "I got error X" .. not what you were trying to do, what gave the error, what version are you running, etc.14:26
enbergjamitprakash: also http://serverfault.com/questions/235621/where-do-i-place-the-wsgipythonhome-directive-in-the-httpd-conf-file14:28
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Mr_Quistenbergj, perhaps "Google first" would be a more fitting answer :P14:31
enbergjsome people consider jfgi to be a rude answer14:34
samjam4ubuNeed help 4 ubuntu 12.04 multiboot14:38
samjam4ubuabout grub settings for windows714:39
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MonkeyDustlet's hear it, samjam4ubu14:41
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samjam4ubuyes14:41
goxlJOIN14:43
goxlJOIN ubuntu-cn14:43
Picigoxl: /join #ubuntu-cn14:43
goxlthk14:43
MonkeyDustsamjam4ubu: keep it in the channel please14:45
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MonkeyDust!pm | samjam4ubu14:47
ubottusamjam4ubu: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.14:47
samjam4ubui am new user14:49
amitprakashenbergj, oh damn, was putting it in the wsgi file14:53
amitprakashenbergj, thank you14:54
Walexgdi2k: /w 414:54
Walexoops14:54
Corynso if I want a binary to be accessible all the time, is it wrong to put it in /bin/ ?14:58
Corynor perhaps /usr/bin/ is where I want to put it?14:58
stormy98_hey, wonder if you can help, i've got a imac running ubuntu as a server *test server* it had desktop installed so i done apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop^ rebooted the server, nowi get keneral panic not synicn gvfa unable to moun root fs on unknown-block(0,0)15:00
ActionPa1snipstormy98_: removing the metapackage doesnt remove it's deps15:01
ActionPa1snipstormy98_: all you did was remove the metapackage15:01
stormy98_vfs cannot open root device mapper/nagios--vg-root or unkown bloke(0,0): error -6 , please append the coorect root= boot option here are the avialable partitions:, 0b00 104875 sro driver: so15:01
ActionPa1snipstormy98_: if you want to remove the GUI then remove Xorg and the rest will fail deps and be removed15:02
stormy98_so why not has it broken the parittion boot?15:02
clarkkI am trying to compile and install the vdpau libs, using configure, make install, install. It reports that "Libraries have been installed in: /usr/local/lib/vdpau".  How do I enable my system to use them, please?15:02
ikoniaclarkk: what do you mean enable your system to use the15:02
stormy98_ah ok, but it doesn't boot up,a nd has been fine, not it will not boot cause of it not being able to mount  /mapper/nagios--vg-root15:03
ikoniaclarkk: what are you expecting to happen after you install them15:03
ikoniastormy98_: that looks like your root file system, or at least the root directory for your nagios install15:04
clarkkikonia: I'm hoping that flash won't crash every time I view a flash video in my browser. This was the case with previous versions of the nvidea driver and vdpau libs15:04
stormy98_thats what i thought, but how do i fix it! or have i just fooked the server!15:04
ikoniaclarkk: I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are doing15:05
clarkkikonia: how do I ensure that the libs are utilised?15:05
ikoniastormy98_: that language is uncalled for, and unwelcome15:05
ikoniastormy98_: why can't it mount the file system ?15:05
ikoniaclarkk: utilized by what ?15:05
stormy98_sorry! for the rude words15:05
clarkkikonia: at all?15:05
ikoniaclarkk: something has to use them for them to be used15:05
stormy98_on boot up it says, cannt open root device mmapper/nagios--vg-root or unknown block(0,0); eroor -6 then please append a correct root boot option here are the avaliable parititons, 0b00 1040575 sro driver: sr, kernel panic - not syncing vs unable to mount root fs on unkonown-block(0,0);15:06
ikoniastormy98_: ok, so either the the volume group is not active (corruption ?) he file system is damaged on it15:07
ikoniastormy98_: what disks are in that volume group ?15:07
stormy98_I don't know, i'm guessing just the one parittion to be honnest15:07
ikoniastormy98_: why don't you know ? is this your system ?15:08
stormy98_it is mine, but i never configured it! the person before me who configured it left with no ducomentation, so i got to pick up the peices!15:08
ikoniastormy98_: what have you done so far to try to recover it ?15:09
stormy98_it has loads of kernels installed, like 10 or so, went through them and tried each one, also tried reocvery mode, tried to boot into single user mode as well same issue15:10
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stormy98_i could use /dev/mapper/sr0 as listed above but i don't knwo what that is15:10
ikoniastormy98_: sr0 is normally a cdrom15:10
stormy98_ah ok15:11
ikoniastormy98_: I think you need to boot from an external media to try to get a look at how the system is setup15:11
ikoniastormy98_: trying to boot a root file system on volume manager control that is damaged is going to go nowhere15:11
clarkkI want to start again. I have used configure, make install and install to compile and install a library. How do I remove that library?15:11
stormy98_to be honnest I would be 99.9% sure that it will onyl have  one parition setup.15:11
ikoniaclarkk: you can try make uninstall or manually remove the files15:12
stormy98_ikonia: what would be best progarms to use to check the system then.15:12
ikoniastormy98_: the best programs ?15:12
ikoniastormy98_: "a shell"15:12
stormy98_haha stupid question 1 to me, I knew you would say that haha!15:12
clarkkikonia: where will the uninstall file be placed?15:12
ikoniaclarkk: there is no uinstall file15:13
stormy98_cheers ikonia will go have a play!15:13
stormy98_I suppose a live cd / usb key would be a good start.15:13
ikoniastormy98_: that will work - just remember, the volume groups will not show up until you get them imported in your live media15:13
moparisthebest_can't you do something to 2 internet connections (like wifi and ethernet) so that your connection goes across both and if you disconnect one or the other it doesn't disconnect any existing connections?15:13
moparisthebest_I *thought* it was called bridging but that's not right15:13
ikoniamoparisthebest_: the overhead of that sort of setup at home is not workth it15:13
ikoniathat is not bridging no15:14
stormy98_ok thanks ikonia will go have a play :)15:14
moparisthebest_whats it called?15:14
clarkkok thanks ikonia15:14
ikoniamoparisthebest_: bonding15:14
moparisthebest_ah that's the word, thanks ikonia15:15
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bibi234what can I do to deal with bots trying to request /phpmyadmin /wp-admin etc. on a webserver?15:18
no1peanutHi :) - I seem to have an issue with 13.10 over earlier versions with the layout of php configuration files. It seems like the folder that used to exist /etc/php5/conf.d no longer exist - I have some scripts that use this location. Does anyone know how and why this has changed and if there is a new layout to follow ?15:18
ActionPa1snipno1peanut: would a symlink fix it?15:18
ikoniabibi234: block it - change the url, setup port knocking, setup bad bots processes on apache15:18
moparisthebest_bibi234: you could setup htdigest authentication in front of them?15:18
moparisthebest_or do what I do and move /phpmyadmin if you can, to /phpmyadminbalbnthoaeu/ or whatever15:19
ikoniamoparisthebest_: using the default url is "exploiting 101"15:19
ikoniamoparisthebest_: sorry, wrong person15:19
no1peanutActionPa1snip: most likely - but I would like to know why this has changed15:19
moparisthebest_no problem, I agree :)15:19
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no1peanutI am not just trying to fix my immidiate problem - I would like to know why this has changed15:20
bibi234ikonia: I'm not using the default URL, but those errors are polluting some log files, so I was wondering if there are some tools to block them?15:21
somsipbibi234: look into 'Fail2Ban'15:21
moparisthebest_if you aren't using those URL's at all, you can just block them15:22
ikoniabibi234: well, either setup ignore on the logs, block that url, or look at badbots for fail2ban15:22
ikoniaor some other port knocking15:22
moparisthebest_or write a script to grep logs for IPs accessing those URLs, and iptables ban them15:22
ikonia"bad bots"15:22
somsipmoparisthebest_: that is fail2ban...15:22
moparisthebest_if no legit IP should be accessing those URLs, you should be able to safely ban them all15:22
MonkeyDustno1peanut: 600+ people in ##php (that's double #)15:23
vininimwhat is the stock twitter ap in 13.10?15:23
bibi234somsip: ok thanks this tool looks perfect15:24
ikoniavininim: http://www.twitter.com15:24
vininim:3, gwibber knocked off?15:24
somsipbibi234: and as for WP with this, you might find this useful. I think it's still relevant http://is.gd/0vAJYm15:24
ikoniano idea15:24
no1peanutMonkeyDust: thx ..15:24
ActionPa1snipvininim: isnt itcalled 'friends' now or something like that15:25
ActionPa1snipvininim: gwibber is in the repos if you want it15:26
MonkeyDust"Gwibber is a social networking client for GNOME. It supports Facebook, Twitter, Identi.ca, StatusNet, FriendFeed, Qaiku, Flickr, and Digg."15:26
bibi234somsip: I don't use wordpress, but those nasty bots are still trying :)15:26
vininimI know, just wondering if I should change my modus operandi if I want to give feedback on stock ubuntu15:26
somsipbibi234: ok. The filters in that post can still be adapted anyhoo. Good luck15:27
ActionPa1snipvininim: why is 'stock ubuntu' a thing?15:27
vininimat some point of developlment "social networking" was a "thing"15:28
ActionPa1snipvininim: if you prefer an app for a particular task, use it15:28
vininimI have a lot of things tweaked, just wondering if they decide for something differnt for twitter beside gwibber15:28
vininimI know, I just want to know "stock twitter access". if it's the site, I've been doing it for a while and gave some feedback on gwibber when it was stock. Wondering if it got replaced :)15:29
no1peanutHi :) - I seem to have an issue with 13.10 over earlier versions with the layout of php configuration files. It seems like the folder that used to exist /etc/php5/conf.d no longer exist - I have some scripts that use this location. Does anyone know how and why this has changed and if there is a new layout to follow ? (Already asked php guys ... they say it is an ubuntu specific thing)15:32
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nuclearnadalI just installed fresh copy of ubuntu and then it asked for login password and I logged in successfully but when I try to do su in terminal and then try to enter password then it is showing authentication error :-(15:41
nuclearnadalwhat to do now please help me15:41
ikonianuclearnadal: you don't do "su"15:41
ikonia!sudo | nuclearnadal15:41
ubottunuclearnadal: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo15:41
nuclearnadalikonia: how to open root in terminal ?15:41
nuclearnadalroot account*15:42
ikonianuclearnadal: you don't, you use sudo and read the links just provided15:42
jacknuclearnadal, sudo su -15:42
ikoniano15:42
ikoniayou don't do that15:42
jack:P15:42
ikoniajack: it's not funny giving bad/wrong advice15:42
nuclearnadalokay ikonia ,15:43
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vininimwhy is is bad? sudo su - saves typing on subsequent commands15:43
jackbad/wrong? it's terribly useful, for smart people15:43
ikoniajack: no, it's really not15:43
Corynuniq < a > a  .. will that conflict or is the change correctly saved a?15:44
ikoniavininim: it can mess up your environment as it will put temporary files/session files in /root - which you can't access when you are not root.15:44
vininimerm15:44
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RoryCoryn: Best way is probably to try it on dummy data15:45
vininimwell, I guess you have a point, since I don't know what user sudo would put on temporary files15:46
vininimbut if it was root, it's the same problem15:46
ikoniavininim: the point is your exeucuting it as your user with root permissions, the other way is you are root15:47
mernilioHi guys!15:47
RoryThe most important thing is to never run Sussudio15:47
RoryBecause that summons Phil Collins15:47
ikoniavininim: (the bottom line)15:47
mernilioCorrect me if im wrong, but did Obama said Ubuntu today, while visiting Africa today for the Mandela funeral?15:48
sseehh_http://docs.mongodb.org/v2.2/reference/operator/15:48
mernilioIm pretty sure he did :-)15:48
ikoniamernilio: that is nothing to do with this channel15:48
vininimkind of does15:49
vininimthe choice of the distrbution name15:49
mernilioikonia:  except for the namn....15:49
ikoniavininim: this is a channel for ubuntu linux - support, not "anyone who says the word ubuntu in any context"15:49
jacklol15:50
vininimyou're write just because of support, because discussing the meaning of ubuntu (starting from choice of naming) is on-topic on ubuntu related :)15:50
Rorymernilio: Good offtopic chat channels are #ubuntu-offtopic (official) and #club-nomicon (unofficial)15:50
vininim*right15:50
the_drowHas anyone encountered the "waiting for more than 60 seconds for network configuration" message on boot?15:50
ikoniavininim: sorry, I'm not being clear "it is nothing to do with this channel - please drop it"15:50
mernilioRory: Thanks! :-)15:50
the_drowI worked around it by starting up the network-manager after the boot but is there a better fix which can make the message go away.15:51
helmut_hi15:52
RoryHello helmut_15:54
Corynvininim: ignore ikonia, he's having a period. What was your question? :)15:58
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kevinhey16:03
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daftykinshi16:04
Guest67270hello16:05
Guest67270how connect micromax mmx377g in linux mint16:06
DJones!mint | Guest6727016:07
ubottuGuest67270: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org16:07
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ubottuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/16:07
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ubottuThe Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything.16:07
jubobaI've been running mathematica7 for some time. After my upgrade from 12.04 to 13.10 when I run mathematica my X session crashes (this happens with any WM or DE). I'm looking at the Xorg.0.log but I see nothing related. I tried running the X server with xinit or startx to check the console but as soon as I run mathematica it all crashes and I have to REISUB to reboot. Any ideas?16:07
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glitsj16juboba: seems to be a confirmed bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1249696 .. several users with nvidia gpu report a fix by upgrading the nvidia drivers16:13
ubottuUbuntu bug 1249696 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Mathematica crashes X on start in 13.10" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:13
ActionParsnipjuboba: did you upgrade to 12.10, then to 13.04 then to 13.10 using the web, or did you do a clean install of Saucy from CD?16:15
jubobaActionParsnip, I upgraded to 12.10 and to 13.04 before getting to 13.1016:15
jubobaglitsj16, thanks! I will16:15
ActionParsnipjuboba: cool, just checking :)16:15
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Touhou11juboba: If you're new to the recent versions of Ubuntu, the adverts/tracking can be disabled: https://fixubuntu.com/16:17
Wiz_KeeDHello guys!16:17
Wiz_KeeDA very nice member has chosen to guide me through the proccess of installing ubuntu alongside windows in uefi mode and I don't want to mess up on the partitioning part, can someone give me some extra help just to be sure?16:17
Wiz_KeeDhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2192875&p=12870256#post1287025616:17
mjchi16:18
Wiz_KeeD20Gb ext4 Ubuntu '/' (mountpoint='/', is where the installer will install ubuntu filesystem... its like Win C:16:18
mjcwhere chat about direct connect clients?16:18
daftykins*GB16:18
Guilthello all16:18
Wiz_KeeDso I set New size (Mib): 20000 Align to: MiB Create as Primary Partition File System: ext4?16:18
Guilti'm trying to delete files fast, so i'm asking what's the good way to do it16:18
Wiz_KeeDActionParsnip, think you can assist on this one? I trust you more since I know you have experience16:19
Guiltcaveats: it's very process heavy, and i need speed16:19
Guilti'm doing something like16:19
mjcWhat DC client is bestest?16:19
Guiltfind /mnt/data/$dir -type f -mtime +$TIME -print0 | xargs -0 -n $PARL -P $PROC rm "{}"16:19
jubobahow so Touhou11 ?16:19
Guiltwithout the "{}"16:19
Guiltbut the -0 does not work correctly, don't see rm being invoked correctly16:19
Wiz_KeeDanyone please?16:21
mjcHEY?16:21
Touhou11juboba: The latest versions of Ubuntu come with adverts and tracking built-in. But it's possible to disable them if you don't like such features16:21
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Wiz_KeeDnobody? nada16:22
mjcAny here?16:22
koyetsuwhat's up16:23
impradeepyhello16:23
RoryTouhou11: Is this like your job or something?16:23
ebhtura_Guilt: doesn't xargs -0 wait for all its input i.e. the find to complete before forking the rm?16:23
BenZurhi. I am new to ubuntu. How can I copy data from a smb://bla/ drive to my home folder using bash or a tool (to bulk-process and repeat it easily)16:23
Touhou11Rory: Why would it be my job? That does not make sense16:23
Gr1mBenZur: if it is mounted on ~/.gvfs/ it can be copied like any other directory/files16:24
usr13BenZur: cp should do it.16:24
usr13BenZur: rsync  as well, I would suppose.16:25
usr13BenZur: Is the share on a MS-Windows server?16:25
Wiz_KeeDusr13, do you think  you can help me with partitioning in gparted please?16:25
koyetsuBenZur since you are copying from a windows machine why not just install samba server share a dir then drag and drop from your windows machine16:25
usr13Wiz_KeeD: Sure.16:26
Wiz_KeeDthanks a lot m8!16:26
BenZurusr13: yes16:27
BenZurkoyetsu, can you explain a bit more pls?16:27
Guiltebhtura_: i thought it streamed16:27
Guiltlike, waits for so many values and runs16:28
koyetsuwell since you are using samba that means the files you want are on a windows share. and it sounds like you are working from a shell on linux. why not just install the samba server then have it share out a folder. open it from windows then drag and drop from windows16:28
pip__hi, I want to use a 3rd hard drive as  a shared ntfs data storage location for ubuntu & win 8.1. Must I shut down & reboot my rig to avoid data loss in win 8.1 or will a restart be okay?16:28
Rorypip__: Define the difference between "shut down and reboot" and "restart"16:29
pip__yeah - clear as mud that sorry16:29
Rorypip__: Do you mean like a hard reboot?16:29
pip__yeah, or a restart16:30
Rorypip__: You should make sure the ntfs volume is cleanly unmounted, one way of doing that is shutting down/rebooting properly16:30
RoryYou shouldn't be hard-powering-off your system anyway16:30
koyetsuone thing to note. when opening a samba share from windows if it asks for a username and pass you will need to put   computername\username in the username dialog so if your linux box it ubuntu and your username is BenZur you would put ubuntu\BenZur for your username16:30
pip__oh gosh, I meant shoud I select "shutdown" & then fire the rig up again16:31
BenZurinstall samba server on the server or is it an application to install locally on the linux desktop?16:31
pip__or can I select "restart"16:31
koyetsuyou install it on your linux box16:31
pip__does that make any sense?16:31
mjcwhere DC channel?16:32
BenZurwhere can I find it? apt-get?16:32
Rorypip__: you can select restart16:32
pip__for example, if I select restart from win or Ubuntu  I down have to push the power button to make the rig come on again16:32
koyetsuyeah it's there i'm not 100% sure of the package name16:32
Beldar!alis | mjc16:32
ubottumjc: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*16:32
Wiz_KeeDHello Rory :)16:33
pip__Rory: thanks that's kind of what I was hoping16:33
pip__I'm planning to disable hibernation in win 8.1 too16:33
mjcno work16:33
koyetsuBenZur are you using a linuz desktop or a server cli?16:34
BenZurdesktop16:34
paracelsohi16:34
koyetsuthen why are you asking about coping files from a shell?16:34
koyetsuyou should be able to just browse the windows share from the X desktop16:35
BenZuryes thats possible16:35
BenZurbut how to automatically do this?16:35
MonkeyDustkoyetsu: some (or most) people prefer to use the shell, instead of GUI16:35
BenZuri cannot use smb:16:35
koyetsubut not most new users16:35
jubobaI updated the driver16:36
jubobanow I'm getting No screens found from X :(16:36
jubobaI updated the driver from the official privative driver16:37
jubobashould I use the one from the repos?16:37
nuclearnadalwhat wrong I am doing here ?16:37
nuclearnadalsun@sun-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo ./ amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13-4-x86.x86_64.run16:37
nuclearnadal[sudo] password for sun:16:37
nuclearnadalsudo: ./: command not found16:37
ikonia!info ubuntu-zfs16:37
ubottuPackage ubuntu-zfs does not exist in saucy16:37
hggdhnuclearnadal: there is no space between ./ and the file name16:38
MonkeyDust!find zfs16:38
ubottuFound: zfs-fuse16:38
koyetsunuclearnadal remove the space between ./ and amd16:38
d4rkt1m3suclearnadal: try using an exclamation point with no spaces.16:38
nuclearnadalokl16:38
g3org3shey all, how can I list the windows shares on my network from ubuntu ?16:38
glitsj16juboba: use the nvidia-319 package from the repos16:38
d4rkt1m3sas in !amd-driver*16:38
beandogg3kk3r: smbtree16:39
glitsj16juboba: you mentioned earlier you are on 13.10 no?16:39
jubobaglitsj16, yes16:39
jubobaI'm installing the nvidia-319 package16:39
jubobathat should replace the one I just installed with the official installer right?16:40
beandoger, g3org3s smbtree, or I prefer gigolo16:40
glitsj16juboba: ok, make sure you purged anything you installed through manually install and you should be fine16:40
nuclearnadalagain same error :-/ sun@sun-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo ./amd.run16:40
jubobaglitsj16, how?16:40
nuclearnadal[sudo] password for sun:16:40
nuclearnadalsudo: ./amd.run: command not found16:40
jubobaglitsj16, aptitude is doing that16:40
jubobaIt's removing the DKMS module and all that16:41
g3org3sbeandog: and how can i mount the shares please .16:41
g3org3s?16:41
beandogg3org3s: use gigolo16:41
pip__thanks again, ttfn16:41
Beldarnuclearnadal, Why are you installing a proprietary?16:41
shamshello guys , i have an issue on my ram, i am not using any program still its showing most of my ram is in use, is it compiz, if yes how do i uninstall it. screenshot > http://www.pasteall.org/pic/6379416:42
nuclearnadalBeldar: I want to install driver for my ATI gfx card but I want catalyst control center too16:42
beandognuclearnadal: did you rename it to amd.run ?16:42
glitsj16juboba: not sure, i never used aptitude .. but try to locate something like nvidia-uninstall in your system, i believe the official driver from nvidia has a way to do a clean uninstall16:42
nuclearnadalbeandog: yes I renamed iot16:42
beandognuclearnadal: and is it actually in that file16:42
beandoger16:42
beandogthat directory16:42
nuclearnadalyes beandog16:42
Beldarnuclearnadal, proprietary is not supported or advised here.16:42
jubobaglitsj16, you don't use aptitude? what do you use?16:42
beandognuclearnadal: is it set as executable?16:43
Ari-Yangnuclearbob: what graphics card do you have?16:43
nuclearnadalI have ATI radeon hd657016:43
nuclearnadalbeandog: let me check whether it is exe or not16:44
glitsj16juboba: apt-get and synaptic, mainly out of habit, i wasn't infering there's something wrong with aptitude16:44
impradeepynuclearnadal: i think you shoul ask in #hardwares16:44
beandogit's running a binary problem, not a hardware one16:44
glitsj16juboba: hang on, do you still have the *.run file from nvidia on your machine?16:44
jubobaglitsj16, I use apt-get (supposed it was a shortcut for aptitude)16:45
impradeepyok my mistake16:45
jubobaglitsj16, yes16:45
Ari-Yangnuclearnadal: why do you want to install fglrx? it has terrible 2d acceleration16:45
Ari-Yangnuclearnadal: and there's a change you could break your system (no graphics at all)16:45
Ari-Yangafter installing it that is16:45
shamshello guys , i have an issue on my ram, i am not using any program still its showing most of my ram is in use, is it compiz, if yes how do i uninstall it, any help please. screenshot > http://www.pasteall.org/pic/6379416:45
jubobaglitsj16, now mathematica works!16:45
jubobathanks a lot glitsj1616:45
g3org3sbeandog: thanks alot ^^16:45
beandoganother satisifed customer16:46
shams:)16:46
glitsj16juboba: ok, i think you can use 'sudo sh </path/to/NVIDIA-Linux-*.run --uninstall' to purge it before installing from repos16:46
glitsj16juboba: cool, you're welcome16:46
Wiz_KeeDCould someone please help me out with partitioning? I am following this guide from a helpful community member and I want to be sure I don't mess things up16:46
Wiz_KeeDhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2192875&p=12870256#post1287025616:46
Wiz_KeeDI don't get the Free space preceding (MiB) Align to: and all that16:47
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beandogWiz_KeeD: don't worry about it16:47
beandogWiz_KeeD: just go with default settings and you'll be fine16:47
Wiz_KeeDyou sure?16:48
beandogWiz_KeeD: completely16:48
Wiz_KeeDwhere will hte label come up?16:48
beandogWiz_KeeD: you can always set the label, at any time, on any partition16:49
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beandogwell, except swap16:49
shamshello is there anybody who can help me please.16:49
Wiz_KeeDbeandog, I see...it did not ask me anything about mount point...16:49
Wiz_KeeDI started gparted in the live cd...should I use the one in the installer?16:50
beandogWiz_KeeD: well, yah, that's a different part of your os.  What are you trying to do, if I may ask16:50
Ari-Yangnuclearnadal: if you insist on installing fglrx, then by all means, go on ahead... But I warn you that your system is most likely going to break. I'm curious to find out why you want to install it anyway...16:50
beandogWiz_KeeD: yah, use the installer.16:50
Wiz_KeeDIt's all in the thread beandog16:50
stormy98_ikonia: i've got boot live cd in place, i've looked and /dev/mapper/nagios-vg-root exisits and is lsym linked to ../../dm-016:50
beandogWiz_KeeD: tl;dr :)16:50
doomlord_anyone know off hand how well ubuntu runs on a surface pro 216:50
Wiz_KeeDtl dr? too long...doctor? XD16:50
beandogWiz_KeeD: didn't read16:50
Wiz_KeeDhaha ok16:50
Wiz_KeeDintall ubuntu alongside windows in uefi crap16:51
stormy98_it's a mint live cd, i run a integrity and all come back ok16:51
Wiz_KeeDubuntu does not recognise ubuntu and I get a lot of wierd stuff in the bootloader when I mak fix16:51
beandogWiz_KeeD: oh, uefi? then I dunno man, never done it.  There could be some funkiness there.16:51
shamshello is there anybody who can help me please ?16:51
Wiz_KeeDthere is a lot of funkiness16:51
beandog:(16:52
beandogsorry man16:52
Beldarshams, State the issue to the channel for help.16:53
shamsBeldar, i am sorry, i am new to this chat too, i guess i am in the ubuntu channel no ?16:55
douglshams, what do you run?16:55
shamsXchat16:55
Pici!ask16:55
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:55
douglwhat version of linux16:55
shamshello guys , i have an issue on my ram, i am not using any program still its showing most of my ram is in use, is it compiz, if yes how do i uninstall it, any help please. screenshot > http://www.pasteall.org/pic/6379416:56
shams12.0416:56
beandogshams: it's probably just reserving it.  It's fine.  don't worry about it.16:56
beandogIf your swap starts getting used a lot, *then* you have a problem.16:56
Ari-Yangshams: what DE/flavor are you using?16:57
shamsDE/flavor ?16:57
beandogshams: yah, looked at your pic ... you are totally fine.16:57
Ari-Yang!DE > shams16:57
ubottushams, please see my private message16:57
ActionParsnipshams: bit weird how its running 4 times16:57
ActionParsnipshams: you are only using 600Mb RAM and zero pagefile16:58
ActionParsnipshams: free -m   is a bit mre readable (megabytes)16:58
shamsshams@ubuntu:~$ free -m16:59
shams             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached16:59
shamsMem:          3886       3292        594          0       1131       134516:59
Picidon't paste here.16:59
maujhsnDoes anyone know why "ubuntu-12.04"creates two entries for "cdrom" in settings>Repositories>Other Sortware of the synaptic package manager?16:59
shuvarekhello, how to add another user to sudoers?17:00
beandogshuvarek: visudo17:00
shamsActionParsnip, thank you, i am glad i am ok, I was worried because i can not render a scene in blender it crashed due to memory issu.17:00
Picishuvarek: easiest method is to add them to the sudo group.17:00
ActionParsnipshams: sudo usermod -a -G sudo username17:00
beandogoh, that too.17:00
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Picishuvarek: or admin group, if you are on an older release of Ubuntu17:01
shuvarekyes I did the second (add to sudo group) and still not work17:01
MonkeyDustshuvarek: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Allowing_other_users_to_run_sudo17:01
Picishuvarek: That user will need to log back in for the changes to take effect.17:01
beandoguh not really17:01
shuvarekPici:  thaks, will try17:01
beandogyou could do su - username17:01
beandogor17:01
beandogwait17:01
beandogis that it?17:01
FloodBot1beandog: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:01
beandogyah that was right.17:02
beandoglogging back in is easier though17:02
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ActionParsnipbeandog: su only swiutches user, it does not give it sudo access17:02
beandogActionParsnip: it does solve the problem of getting you into your new groups17:02
beandogbut only for that console session17:03
beandognot desktop17:03
ActionParsnipbeandog: absolutely, a full log off and log in is needed, just as in windows17:03
beandogyou just use su to switch to your own user17:03
beandogActionParsnip: agreed, I'm just being pedantic.17:03
shuvarekbeandog:  sorry I haven't use windows for years, but yes I will relog myself to see the effect17:04
shuvarekthanks everyone17:04
Wiz_KeeDhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2192875&p=12870256#post12870256 can anyone vouch for this method, using gparted first then ubuntu installer?17:04
MonkeyDustbeandog: you're better off than I: i'm arrogant17:04
beandogMonkeyDust: heh.  we all have our faults I guess.17:04
Wiz_KeeDAlso does anyone know why Windows does not detect the operating system? but it has in the past?  same notebook same configuration *God knows what changed until then*17:04
beandogMonkeyDust: I'm so used to explaining how to answer a specific question.17:04
beandogMonkeyDust: not filtering it through a desktop point-of-view17:05
ActionParsnipbeandog: np duder :)17:05
ActionParsnipWiz_KeeD: do you mean, since you made a dual boot you cannot boot windows?17:07
maujhsnjoin #xchat17:09
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imghostguys please help i am using 12.04.3lts i do not why my copy dialog got frozen, but file is copying i did reboot but same frozen copy dialog boz17:11
MonkeyDustimghost: better use rsync --progress to copy large files17:13
beandogrsync ftw17:14
imghostok,thankyou i was copying from windows to ubuntu using lan by sharing public folder17:15
ActionParsnipimghost: look into socket options in smb.conf too, they can make things nicer :)17:15
douglwould a raid configuration make my disk access faster?17:16
beandogif it was striped17:16
beandogwhich is ... pretty dangerous raid level.17:16
beandogone drive dies, all your stuff goes poof17:16
imghostok. will try good to know and learn the suggestions thanku all17:16
douglenuff said... was just following a baked thot thanks17:17
douglbeandog, thanks17:17
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Sven_vBare there possible reasons left for EMFILE when ulimit reports limits far higher than the number of open descriptors known to lsof, or should i distrust the error reporting of EMFILE?17:19
SwashBucklahi there. I appear to have fudged up my installation of precise -- speficially the Xorg stuff. What is needed to run the normal Unity/Gnome desktop? xserver-xorg-core, xorg, xserver-xorg-synaptics (for my touchpad)... Anything else?17:20
tuxedohello17:21
tuxedoeveryone here17:21
nicknackhi guys, for some reason, tap to click wont work on ubuntu. I've added the option for it in the 50-synaptics, but it still wont work. how can i get around this?17:21
Sven_vBSwashBuckla, the package description of unity should know all of its dependencies.17:21
nicknackcurrently running ubuntu minimal, 13.1017:21
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technologovhi ! I have 2 X11 drivers installed. fbdev and fbturbo on ARM17:22
technologovhow-to figure out which one is active ?17:22
tuxedoI have a sign on update17:22
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tuxedotelling me is outdate some respository17:22
tuxedohow i correct this?17:23
MonkeyDusttuxedo: what repo would that be?17:23
daftykinstuxedo: ok, but please keep your queries to one line17:23
mijnhow can i query for packages depending only on packets from supplied list?17:23
k1ltuxedo: run "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get upgrade" in a terminal and put the whole output into a pastebin please17:24
miketomdoolnicknack if you go into mouse and touchpad settings there is a checkmark there. have you tried that yet?17:24
MonkeyDustmijn: try apt-cache search | xargs [your file with the list]17:24
SwashBucklaSven_vB: ok, so installing Unity shows that I already have all of it's dependencies. So something else is causing X login not to go through to Gnome17:25
nicknackmiketomdool: where exactly is it?17:25
SwashBucklaSven_vB: any ideas what that could be?17:25
tuxedook17:25
mijnMonkeyDust, i don't think you understood my question17:26
allstarsnorks2Hello guys17:26
mijnMonkeyDust, or at least that's not the answer17:26
Sven_vBSwashBuckla, check the xsession error log17:26
ihswhey, when i try to do apt-get update i get this "W: GPG error: http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"17:26
usr13SwashBuckla: What did you do?17:26
mjcWhy search no work in DC Client on the hubs?17:26
usr13SwashBuckla: What did you do?17:26
allstarsnorks2Just asking, do you know of any programs that I can make a Live ISO off my current build?17:26
xenHi, I was wondering if anyone can tell me if I can install OpenCL for my graphics card (AMD Radeon HD) without actually using the proprietary graphics drivers? (The FOSS ones are much nicer)17:27
usr13Sorry, I was backed up in the buffer.17:27
usr13!touch | SwashBuckla17:28
ubottuSwashBuckla: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch17:28
allstarsnorks2brb going to #linux17:28
tuxedoHit http://repo.steampowered.com precise InRelease17:28
tuxedoIgn http://us.archive.ubuntu.com saucy InRelease17:28
tuxedoHit http://repo.steampowered.com precise/steam Sources17:28
tuxedoIgn http://us.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates InRelease17:28
tuxedoIgn http://ppa.launchpad.net saucy InRelease17:28
tuxedoIgn http://extras.ubuntu.com saucy InRelease17:28
FloodBot1tuxedo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:28
beandogwell that stinks17:29
miketomdoolnicknack i don't know where it's at on unity (i use gnome) let me look it up for you one second17:29
SwashBucklausr13: I seem to have installed a bunch of xorg-dev stuff and libgl stuff and it has apparently broken post-login X loading17:29
SwashBucklausr13: I get to the usualy Ubuntu 12.04.2 login screen (I seem my username, I can pick my display manager etc)17:29
SwashBucklausr13: but when I enter my password and hit enter, the screen goes black and I get kicked back to the login screen again in a loop17:30
ihswanyone have any idea why i'm getting GPG error BADSIG?17:30
tuxedoIgn http://us.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports InRelease17:30
tuxedoIgn http://archive.canonical.com saucy InRelease17:30
tuxedoIgn http://us.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-security InRelease17:30
tuxedoHit http://repo.steampowered.com precise/steam amd64 Packages17:30
FloodBot1tuxedo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:30
usr13SwashBuckla: Sounds a lot like wrong user or password17:30
SwashBucklausr13: this is not the case.17:30
GEEGEEGEEAnyone know how I can boot the live CD from USB on a AMD based system? Im getting dropped to a busybox prompt17:31
SwashBucklausr13: it must be to do with gfx/display code17:31
usr13ihsw: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-the-ubuntu-gpg-error-badsig.html17:31
GEEGEEGEEive changed SATA stuff to ACHI and it still does it17:31
GEEGEEGEEand checked the hash of the ISO file17:31
SwashBucklausr13: I am using the problematic laptop on my usual user account to talk to you right now17:31
Beldar!sum | GEEGEEGEE17:31
Beldar!md5sum | GEEGEEGEE17:31
ubottuGEEGEEGEE: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows17:31
SwashBucklausr13: Only I am using framebuffer (tty1) instead of X (tty7)17:31
GEEGEEGEEI have checked that Beldar17:32
usr13Have to leave for a while.  Sorry...17:32
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BeldarGEEGEEGEE, Ah I see that now, how are you loading the usb?17:32
impradeepyswashbuckla:are you able to see you login screen?17:32
GEEGEEGEEI used UltraISO, and unetbootin17:32
GEEGEEGEEboth do the same thing17:32
GEEGEEGEEI get the purple loading screen, and then dropped to a busybox prompt17:33
BeldarGEEGEEGEE, I would check that computer model and the release on the web, amd should not be an issue per-say, if you have the correct iso.17:33
ihswusr13: yeah that doesn't work17:33
diverdudeHello. i have added this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~takluyver/+archive/matplotlib-daily  and run apt-get update. How do i then install matplotlib from that ppa afterwards?17:33
BeldarGEEGEEGEE, The bit correct 32 or 64?17:34
GEEGEEGEEI built it myself, and im using the 64bit desktop version17:34
BeldarGEEGEEGEE, fresh build, has it been working?17:34
tuxedohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6552204/17:34
GEEGEEGEEubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso17:34
GEEGEEGEEyeah it works fine with Windows, but I need Linux on it now17:34
SwashBucklaimpradeepy: yes17:34
SwashBucklaimpradeepy: try hitting <TAB> after typing Swash17:35
BeldarGEEGEEGEE, UEFI?17:35
GEEGEEGEEyeah17:35
diverdudeanyone?17:35
Beldar!uefi | GEEGEEGEE check this17:35
ubottuGEEGEEGEE check this: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI17:35
impradeepySwashBuckla, show me the output of cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf17:35
nicknacksorry about that, still haven't gotten the tap to click working.17:36
SwashBucklaI am not using lightdm.17:36
geirhadiverdude: apt-get install nameofpackage17:36
MonkeyDustdiverdude: better ask the maintainer s/he'll know best17:36
SwashBucklaimpradeepy: I use either xmonad or Gnome17:36
SwashBucklaimpradeepy: oh wow what? Light DM17:36
geirhadiverdude: In this case, the package name is matplotlib.  You can check which package will be installed by running  apt-cache policy matplotlib  first17:36
SwashBucklaimpradeepy: it's in there. One second, just grabbing pastebinit17:36
StumphHello17:37
GEEGEEGEEyeah I have read that as well Beldar, I cant actually get it to boot to the point where any of it is useful17:37
SwashBucklaimpradeepy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/655222817:37
GEEGEEGEEmy bios has no option for safeboot17:37
BeldarGEEGEEGEE, Not sure myself.17:37
nicknacki edited the 50-synaptics file and added tapbutton 1 1 to it, the proper way of course, and afte ra reboot it still wont work17:38
tuxedohelloo??17:38
miketomdoolnicknack try gnome-control-center then mouse and touchpad17:38
* beandog waves to tuxedo 17:38
BeldarGEEGEEGEE, Might be worth looking through this thread. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214729517:39
MonkeyDustGEEGEEGEE: it's either UEFI or BIOS17:39
nicknackmiketomdool: doesn't look like the touchpad option is there17:39
Picituxedo: Floodbot1 is a bot, please direct your questions to the channel.17:39
SwashBucklaimpradeepy: what's up doc?17:40
tuxedoI've already did17:40
impradeepySwashBuckla, output is ok, once again start lightdm type sudo service lightdm start17:40
Picituxedo: Then repeat the entire questions and your pastebin link, in one line please.17:40
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SwashBucklaimpradeepy: Job is already running17:41
impradeepySwashBuckla, and then check cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager17:41
nicknackmiketomdool: there is no touchpad option o.o17:41
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simongI've set my ulimit settings but when I do cat /proc/<pid>/limits I still get a low value for my pid17:41
simongI've restarted the service after bumping the ulimit settings17:41
SwashBucklaimpradeepy: /usr/sbin/lightdm17:42
k1ltuxedo: in you paste you can see that some PPAs are not available anymore. get rid of them with ppa-purge17:42
impradeepySwashBuckla, perfect no problem in lightdm17:42
impradeepySwashBuckla, please show me the snap of your login screen17:43
ihswnoone have any other ideas? "W: GPG error: http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"17:43
impradeepySwashBuckla, and during login select ubuntu as a default17:44
SwashBucklaimpradeepy: how?17:44
impradeepygo to imgur.com17:44
SwashBucklahow do I do a screenshot that is17:44
SwashBucklaimpradeepy: I can't17:44
nicknackany other ways of getting tap to click to work?17:44
SwashBucklaimpradeepy: I can't log in17:44
SwashBucklaall I have is my laptop17:44
tuxedogive the command to do17:44
tuxedogive me the command to do it17:44
k1l!ppa-purge | tuxedo17:45
ubottutuxedo: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html17:45
tuxedohello???17:48
Picituxedo: hi17:48
impradeepySwashBuckla, which graphic card are you using?17:49
SwashBucklaimpradeepy: radeon something something17:49
SwashBucklahow do I find out?17:49
SwashBucklaRadeon 7550M17:50
impradeepySwashBuckla, did you install proprietary drivers??17:50
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SwashBucklaimpradeepy: no idea17:50
impradeepySwashBuckla, did you install anything from additional drivers??17:51
SwashBucklaimpradeepy: ah, yes. I did17:51
SwashBucklaimpradeepy: A graphics driver. It was working fine17:51
tuxedohi pici17:51
tuxedohi Pici17:52
impradeepySwashBuckla, i think its conflicting with other modules17:52
Picituxedo: Do you have a question about the instructions you were given?17:52
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impradeepySwashBuckla, deactivate it from additional drivers17:53
SwashBucklaimpradeepy: how? I am in console17:53
BeldarSwashBuckla, This an optimus?17:53
SwashBucklaBeldar: you have not been following the conversation17:54
SwashBucklaBeldar: scroll up.17:54
BeldarSwashBuckla, I rebooted and just logged in.17:54
Beldarsmat ass17:54
SwashBucklaBeldar: nevermind then17:54
IdleOneBeldar: Please watch the name calling, remember the Code of Conduct :)17:55
Beldarhehe sure, quite accurate none the less17:55
douglis my iphone supposed to be able to be recognized on my 13.10 install with virtualbox hosting osx?17:56
impradeepySwashBuckla, show me the output of cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf17:57
icewalkerany ideas why i get this error message on setting up the printer?17:57
icewalkerThere was an error during the CUPS operation 'client-error-request-value-too-long'17:57
ActionParsniphow long do pasts last on paste.ubuntu.com please?17:57
ActionParsnip*pastes17:57
SwashBucklaimpradeepy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/655232617:58
BeldarActionParsnip, 15 min I think17:58
IdleOneActionParsnip: afaik forever17:58
denysoniqueHow can I get my tray icons back in 13.10?17:58
ActionParsnipah17:58
ActionParsniphttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/240587 :D17:58
icewalkerany ideas ho i can fix this printer problem?17:58
icewalkers/ho/how/17:58
ActionParsnipicewalker: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue17:58
icewalkerUbuntu 13.04 \n \l17:59
ActionParsnipicewalker: and what make and model printe? and how does it connect to the system?17:59
icewalkerhp laserjet 4l17:59
impradeepySwashBuckla, replace glx with radeon17:59
icewalkerconnect to via network jetdirect18:00
tuxedoyes18:00
ActionParsnipicewalker: do you have the latest HPLIP?18:00
tuxedoyes Pici18:01
icewalkernote that is working fine when i set it up using a usb boot version of ubuntu18:01
Picituxedo: you need to ask them, then. We aren't psychic.18:01
IdleOneActionParsnip: I believe you (or they) can email rt@ubuntu.com but don't expect a quick removal18:01
ActionParsnipIdleOne: sweet, ty :)18:01
icewalkerhow can i tell if i have the latest hplip or not?18:01
tuxedoPici, this is I want to resolve18:01
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tuxedohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6552204/18:02
ActionParsnipicewalker: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/hplip/hplip-3.13.11.run; chmod +x ./hplip-3.13.11.run; ./hplip-3.13.11.run18:02
ActionParsnipicewalker: wget at the start, to download the file18:02
ActionParsnipicewalker: run it as your user (hence no sudo)18:02
icewalkerok18:02
glitsj16denysonique: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/how-to-get-systray-whitelist-back-in.html .. i can confirm this also works for 13.1018:03
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denysoniqueglitsj16: thanks, how up to date is that patched Unity?18:03
denysoniquecompared to 13.10 Unity?18:04
glitsj16denysonique: it is the same unity as in official repos + the patch18:04
ihswcan someone help me? i can't run apt-get update because of this "W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"18:04
SwashBucklaimpradeepy: hi. changing to "radeon" and trying the login caused a black screen and I rebooted18:05
SwashBucklanow it won't get to login screen18:05
ActionParsnipihsw: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B518:05
ihswActionParsnip: yeah that times out18:05
ihswActionParsnip: "gpg: requesting key 437D05B5 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com"18:06
ActionParsnipihsw: then use a different keyserver18:06
ihswActionParsnip: can you be more specific? i've never run into this issue before so i don't know how to do that18:06
veterПРИВЕТ ВСЕМ18:06
ActionParsnipihsw: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver pgp.mit.edu 40976EAF437D05B518:06
ActionParsnipihsw: I couldnt be more specific without spoonfeeding you the EXACT command18:07
JoBArTe_Skuldhi guys18:07
impradeepySwashBuckla,now  show me the output of cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf18:07
ActionParsnipihsw: see how the bit of the command definingthe keyserver was different? That's what 'try a different keyserverver' means18:07
ihswActionParsnip: i don't know any of hte keyservers, so that's why i asked18:07
ihswActionParsnip: *any other keyservers18:07
JoBArTe_Skuldis possible to modify a apt-get do display on screen similar to yum? https://gist.github.com/joubertredrat/765857518:07
ActionParsnipihsw: nobody is born knowing, a quick websearch will find you lotxz18:07
impradeepySwashBuckla, problem is  radeon is not loading due to its conflicts with fglrx18:08
MotherMGASo it looks like the screencloud application was dropped in ubuntu 13.10.  Whats the supported application for taking screenshots and uploading to imgur now?18:09
SwashBucklaimpradeepy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/655237818:09
ihswActionParsnip: oh, i didn't know about the hkp protocol, it's on port 11371 right?18:09
SwashBucklaimpradeepy: so I just unload flgrx?18:09
ActionParsnipihsw: download, and search keys either through HKP on port 11371    source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_server_%28cryptographic%2918:10
impradeepySwashBuckla, http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-drivers-fglrx18:10
SwashBucklaimpradeepy: can you use tinyurl on that?18:10
impradeepysure18:10
SwashBuckla(please(18:10
impradeepyhold on18:10
SwashBucklaI am just at my CLI :)18:11
ActionParsnipihsw: ask the internet instead of asking me....it knows more than me18:11
SwashBucklaI could probably do something with Emacs Relay Chat but I don't know how to use that18:11
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impradeepySwashBuckla, tinyurl.com/ccdpfjt18:13
icewalkerActionParsnip: it failed to detect/setup the printer toward the end of the installion run, what's next?18:14
BeldarMotherMGA, I see two web pages on getting it working in 13.10 again  would you like them?18:14
ActionParsnipicewalker: have you tried http://localhost:63118:14
icewalkerwill try that18:14
impradeepySwashBuckla, before installing, please read this http://tinyurl.com/7h2ulhc18:14
SwashBucklathanks impradeepy18:15
icewalkercan't connect to it, maybe cups is not running?18:15
MotherMGABeldar: Sure.  Is it still the "best application" for that type of thing?18:16
ActionParsnipicewalker: sounds likely18:16
MotherMGAI used to use Lookit back in 12.04, but it hasn't been updated in a long time.18:17
ActionParsnipicewalker: sudo service cups restart18:17
impradeepySwashBuckla, ok, but do tell me the results and also why did you install proprietary drivers i am also using amd radeon i did not need that18:17
MotherMGANormally ubuntu doesn't drop support for something unless there is a replacement application - so I was wondering if it has changed.18:17
icewalkerit said cups is already running18:18
usr13icewalker: Then:  localhost:63118:18
icewalkerbut i still can't connect to webservice on port 63118:18
ActionParsnipicewalker: tried a reboot18:18
usr13icewalker: ... from your favorite browser.18:18
icewalkeri have tried both chrome and firefox18:19
BeldarMotherMGA, Not sure on what is best, same basic git info on these http://askubuntu.com/questions/365543/screencloud-problem-ubuntu-13-10  http://www.joeferguson.me/screencloud-issues-with-ubuntu-13-10/18:19
ActionParsnipicewalker: the browser doesnt matter, if there is nothing to connect to then ANY browser will fail18:19
usr13icewalker: grep Listen /etc/cups/cupsd.conf   #Tell us what that says.18:20
BeldarMotherMGA, I was not aware there was an app like this as well, never used it.18:20
kbrosnanicewalker: you will need to whitelist the port on Firefox18:20
icewalkerListen localhost:63118:20
icewalkerListen /var/run/cups/cups.sock18:21
MotherMGAI think shutter is the officially supported screenshot application, but its horrible.18:21
usr13icewalker: service cups status   #What does that say?18:21
SwashBucklaimpradeepy: I am heading off now, I'll let you know of the results18:21
ActionParsnipicewalker: i'd just reboot18:21
impradeepySwashBuckla, good luck18:21
icewalkerit shows cups status process is running. will try rebooting it18:22
kbrosnanicewalker: http://www-archive.mozilla.org/projects/netlib/PortBanning.html18:22
asteroidciao a tutti18:24
asteroidlist18:25
xenCould anyone give me some help with my drivers?18:27
xenI'm trying to enable my AMD Radeon HD graphics card while having Xorg running with FOSS drivers18:27
xenI've installed the AMD OpenCL developer libraries18:28
xenbut not it says that none of my devices are enabled :(18:28
xen*now18:28
xenWhat do I do?18:28
impradeepyxen:http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-drivers-fglrx18:29
Deep6Hey guys has there been a bad update or something....I'm getting no permissions to modify network settings and sound etc18:29
xenimpradeepy: Ah, but that's the thing. I don't want to install the video drivers, I just want OpenCL running off my GPU. I still want to keep my Xorg running on the FOSS drivers18:30
usr13Deep6: From _______________ ?  and _____________?18:30
impradeepyxen:are you using dual gpu?18:32
usr13Deep6: grep Deep6 /etc/group  #See if you are in apropriate goups18:32
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DarkAceLaptopis there a map program that I can use without an internet connection?18:36
DarkAceLaptopfor linux, of course18:36
El_ChingadorHow do you install mspaint on linux18:39
bazhang!appdb | El_Chingador18:39
ubottuEl_Chingador: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help18:39
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bazhangcheck the appdb then join #winehq El_Chingador18:40
causativewhen I right-click on the launcher icon for gedit (to lock it to the launcher), everything freezes until I kill gedit18:42
causativethis problem does not occur for other applications18:42
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kostkoncausative, tried reinstalling it? maybe something's wrong with its desktop file18:44
Channing_mileys_hi yall18:46
kostkonChanning_mileys_, hi18:46
Channing_mileys_so what makes Linux so awesome18:46
Channing_mileys_thats a retoricle question cause i know it sucks ass18:47
icewalkernot thing changes after rebooting, still having the same problem. can't connect to localhost:63118:47
icewalkerany other ideas?18:47
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diverdudeHello. i have added this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~takluyver/+archive/matplotlib-daily  and run apt-get update. How do i then install matplotlib from that ppa afterwards?18:49
kostkondiverdude, what version are you on?18:50
diverdudekostkon: 12.0418:50
MonkeyDustdiverdude: "For questions and bugs with software in this PPA please contact Thomas Kluyver."18:50
Picidiverdude: There are no precise packages for matplotlib on that ppa.18:51
Deep6crap sorry I just disconnected after someone was trying to help18:51
Deep6I am getting an error failed to add/activate connection ti on from network manager18:52
DX099hello, I'm trying to have my GPG public keys synchronized but each time I try to do so, I get an "server is unwilling to perform" error...18:54
tullianahey18:55
tullianahole hoi18:55
icewalkerthere seem to be problem with ubuntu printer setup program. no matter what printers i tried to setup i also this cups error 'client-error-request-value-too-long'18:55
tulliana*hola18:55
tullianawhere are Jono Bacon?18:57
jonotulliana, http://ubuntuonair.com/18:57
tullianaoww18:57
Giles1Hi, how can i change my keyboard map in remmina from US to UK? for VNC connections.18:57
tullianahi jono18:58
tullianahow are you?18:58
zotuneAnyone familiar with the timeout killing /sbin/modprobe … etc error when booting from USB stick?18:58
nep1xhi! Is anyone here able to connect from ubuntu 12.04 using smbclient to a macbook pro? I ve spend the hole afternoon trying it but no way. At the end I connect to the mac's share folder using AFP protocol19:00
dynamikeanyone know if something is up with http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ ?19:06
Joe_Bnep1x, I know it's not exactly answering your question, but I've always been fond of sshfs.19:06
vivyhola soy nuevo en esto19:07
deezeddynamike: what do you mean?19:07
MonkeyDust!es | vivy19:07
ubottuvivy: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.19:07
irc-5225225Anyone know of some command line programs to organise music into subfolders? Tagging them from online databases would be prefered but not required.19:08
vivyok Thank you19:08
tullianadamn..19:08
deezedirc-5225225: uhm, you can write a script to do so, I think19:09
irc-5225225deezed: In that case, I'm assuming there's a library to read ID3 tags in python19:10
irc-5225225oh well, i'll look around19:10
deezedirc-5225225: thats cool! so19:10
deezedirc-5225225: just think about something like that:19:11
daninozHi guys, I have a problem with my system. Everytime I load it, it shows many windows that say "System program problem detected". I close the windows and I don't have much other issues, but that at the start is annoying.19:12
deezedirc-5225225: if the_artist_u_want*; then mkdir artist_folder & cp artist_u_want* artist_folder; fi19:12
jenniecan you please help me in installing this driver in http://support-in.canon-asia.com/contents/IN/EN/0100459601.html ubuntu 13.10 ?19:12
irc-5225225deezed: Preferably using format strings, so I can do %author/%album/%title19:13
irc-5225225deezed: Python seems to be the best choice for that, just need to find a library that can read the tags.19:14
daftykinsjennie: what's the exact printer model, please?19:14
irc-5225225deezed: Or even a command line utility, and I read the output. It's really hacky but I don't care.19:14
deezedirc-5225225: yes, it will be nice.. tell me if you make it after all19:14
jenniedaftykins it is canonlbp2900B19:14
irc-5225225deezed: I could put it up in GH if you want.19:14
deezedirc-5225225: I'm not sure if python is the best for that, but go ahead19:14
deezedirc-5225225: yes, sure!19:15
irc-5225225deezed: Python is mainly the only language that I know, and it seems to be the best if you are writing scripts to do a specific function.19:15
daftykinsjennie: take a look here at where a very similar file is used to do the same http://askubuntu.com/questions/364121/how-to-install-the-printer-driver-for-canon-image-running-2520-in-ubuntu-13-1019:15
irc-5225225which I am.19:15
deezedirc-5225225: indeed, but since you are working with your own directories, maybe a shell script can do the match19:16
MonkeyDustirc-5225225: maybe the people in #bash can help better19:17
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irc-5225225deezed: oh well. Can't really be bothered to mess around with shell scripts. I'm sure you could do it in 1 line of shell though.19:17
beandogagreed19:17
deezedirc-5225225: shell is not that far from python, if you know python already, I think in 2 days learning shell you will make the script you need19:18
irc-5225225deezed: But python's cleaner, imo. In the end, it doesn't really matter.19:19
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deezedirc-5225225: yes, that's true.19:19
glitsj16daninoz: that's apport throwing those messages at you, but you can disable it in /etc/default/apport19:20
deezedirc-5225225: the only point that in shell you have all the commands like 'mkdir' and 'cp' just there for you use it, in python you will have to import somethings.. which is not a big deal... ;)19:20
jenniedaftykins that driver will work for my printer too ?19:20
irc-5225225deezed: os.subprocess()19:20
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irc-5225225or, just os.mkdir()19:21
daftykinsjennie: stick to the download from the page you linked to, but follow things in the same way19:21
knightshadeHello19:22
deezedirc-5225225: yes, sure! anyway, tell us when you have it done! it will be a nice one19:22
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daftykinsjennie: did you download Linux_CAPT_PrinterDriver_V260_uk_EN.tar.gz yet?19:22
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knightshadeirc-5225225: easytag can19:23
knightshadeoops19:23
irc-5225225yeah, I did say command line.19:24
knightshadeeasytag can sort your mp3s into subfolders19:24
irc-5225225but it's not command line.19:24
jenniedaftykins  yes I already did19:24
irc-5225225from what I can tell19:24
daftykinsjennie: ok so did you extract it successfully?19:25
jennieyes19:25
daftykinsjennie: and have you looked at the file structure and noticed there are some .deb files in a 32-bit and 64-bit folder?19:25
jennieyes daftykins19:26
daftykinsjennie: did you try first installing the 'common' .deb? do you know if you're 32 or 64-bit?19:26
jennieI am at 64bit19:26
knightshadeirc-5225225: Yes, but it works. If you want to waste your time with writing a shell script, no problem. :-)19:26
daftykinsjennie: so you should be able to double click on the cndrvcups-common_2.60-1_amd64.deb file?19:27
daninozglitsj16, thanks. That worked.19:27
jenniedaftykins I didnt have to do some commands in terminal before double clicking .deb file ?19:28
daftykinsjennie: no, you can try it this way19:28
nvrpunkwhen I am manually adding a username to /etc/sudoers and /etc/init.d/sudo restarting, its still not allowing them to sudo19:29
nvrpunkany idea why?19:29
daftykinsnvrpunk: they need to be a member of the right group19:29
irc-5225225knightshade: But it's not command line, and no, it wouldn't work for my needs. It's not a waste of time.19:29
deezedknightshade: 'waste your time' was a bit rude, anh? anyway writing a script is always nice to learn and make another one...19:30
Picinvrpunk: /etc/init.d/sudo doesn't do what you expect it to do.  Its not something you need to touch ever.19:30
grep0rjennie, if any debi or something is installed yes double click otherwise use dpkg -i nameof.deb plus let me know you are at debian os or ubuntu (it's not the same)19:30
Picinvrpunk: Have you logged out and logged back in with that user since making your change?19:31
nvrpunkso if they are in the sudo group19:31
nvrpunkit should just work19:31
nvrpunkright?19:31
nvrpunkor do i still need to add the user to the /etc/sudoers19:32
daftykinsgrep0r: already looked into it, it's supported on Ubuntu19:32
Picinvrpunk: You don't need to touch /etc/sudoers if you put the user in the sudo group.  The user will need to logoff and log back in for any group membership changes to take effect though.19:32
grep0rdaftykins, which one ati's driver?19:33
daftykinsjennie: ok i just gave it a try myself, what happened for you on trying to double click the .deb for common?19:33
daftykinsgrep0r: we're talking printers here :D19:33
dynamikeI am seeing 'BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5' when running 'apt-get update' against http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates19:33
daftykinsgrep0r: jennie's query i am referring to19:33
jennieit is opening software center19:33
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daftykinsjennie: did it work for you? it crashed for me in my VM, i ended up installing them via command line instead19:34
jennieI installed it in my ubuntu by software center19:35
daftykinsjennie: ok now do the same with the other .deb19:35
jennieokay I just did19:36
grep0rdaftykins, if you have cups why need caps :)19:36
xenHmmm19:36
xenAnyone know how to force Xorg to generate an xorg.conf?19:37
xenIt's not running with one, but I need to adjust how it functions :S19:37
daftykinsjennie: ok now open firefox and browse to "localhost:631" and click "Adding printers and Classes" in the middle19:37
daftykinsjennie: then login with your username + password, then click 'Add Printer' top left19:38
jennieok19:38
usr13xen: no19:38
usr13xen: What video driver are you using?19:38
Nothing_MuchI have a question, my web browsers keep redirecting me to mobile websites.19:39
usr13xen: What is your video card?  lspci19:39
Nothing_MuchWhat do I do?19:39
daftykinsjennie: you should have an 'Add Printer' page now which has "Local Printers:" - click the radio button beside 'CAPT Printer'19:39
jennieok daftykins19:39
jennieit is asking connection19:39
daftykinsjennie: yep now type in that box 'ccp://localhost:59687'19:40
daftykinsjennie: on the next page type any name, description and location you want for it19:40
Nothing_MuchWhat do I do when my web browsers keep redirecting me to mobile websites? I'm on Xubuntu 13.10 on Armhf.19:40
dynamikehmm now I can't resolve us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com19:40
jennieok daftykins19:41
jennieand what about make ?19:41
deezedNothing_Much: which web browsing are you using btw?19:41
Nothing_Muchdeezed: So far there's two, which are Chromium and Firefox19:41
deezedNothing_Much: both are doing this?19:42
DarkAceLaptopis there a map program that I can use without an internet connection?19:42
Nothing_Muchdeezed: Yes19:42
daftykinsjennie: select Canon then the button below, it should give you a list of printers19:42
jenniemy printer is not in the list  , mine is LBP900B and it have LBP2900 only19:43
daftykinsjennie: down the list will be "Canon LBP2900 CAPT ver.1.5 (en)"19:43
daftykinsjennie: yes in printer terms they are not 100% specific19:43
deezedNothing_Much: I'm not sure what can do that actually.. but you could try to use an extension in firefox.. see if with adblock it still happens19:43
daftykinsjennie: it will be a driver for the entire range of that model #. now click add printer and there will be some final settings to choose19:44
karamel4eNothing_Much, does this happen with different browsers19:47
Nothing_Muchkaramel4e: Yes, maybe because I'm on armhf?19:47
daftykinsjennie: you can try printing a test page with CUPS now, or just try printing from an application - any luck?19:48
jennietrying to print19:48
daftykinsjennie: it's connected directly via USB, yes?19:49
jennieyes19:49
daftykinsgood good19:49
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cookiei have no idea what im doing Ș)19:52
cookie19:52
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MonkeyDustcookie: start by describing what you have done so far19:52
jenniedaftykins it is not printing test page19:53
daftykinsjennie: click 'Printers' in the CUPS webpage then look at what the status says on the right19:53
cookiei have managed somehow to get this far and install irssi now just working out how to use it :)19:53
daftykinsjennie: or click on the printer name on the left and it will show its' jobs19:54
MonkeyDustcookie: just stay here and follow, you'll learn :)19:54
daftykinsjennie: the default paper size was 'Letter' instead of A4, so make sure the printer display isn't asking a question19:54
cookieNice one, thanks19:54
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jenniedaftykins how to open cups page again /19:54
daftykinsjennie: localhost:631 in firefox19:55
eoohi19:55
jenniestate of job ' cant connect to CCPD : connection refused;19:56
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Guest96286hi..have a problem with printer connected to my ubuntu after ink refill....anyone got experience?20:00
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HungrymaN_is it a network printer?20:00
Guest96286yes20:00
HungrymaN_what type of problem? just not printing?20:01
caver1If I want to use the lastest stable MonoDevelop v4.2.1 under Ubuntu 13.10 is my only option to download source and compile?20:01
kostkoncaver1, or find a ppa20:01
Guest96286the printer itself says low ink because it was a home made ink refil...thats just a setting of the printer manufacturer. It is overridden on the windows but the override doesnt register with ubuntu20:02
cordycepswhere do I find "startup applications"? been all through the menu. can't find it. Lubuntu-13.10 w/ LXDE wm.20:02
Guest96286grasping at straws i guess20:02
HungrymaN_hmmm... maybe it would be good to just delete the old printer and add it again. shouldn't take more than a minute or two with a networked printer20:02
caver1Thanks,  no luck with ppa so far!20:03
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Guest96286d'oh....you know, thats a fairly obvious answer that my small mind couldnt grasp....20:03
Guest96286thanks a lot man...the little things eh?20:03
Guest96286lol...20:03
HungrymaN_np20:05
nvrpunkok so the users are authenticating via tacacs20:05
nvrpunkso sudo doesnt work20:05
nvrpunkAuthentication service cannot retrieve authentication infopasswd: password unchanged20:05
rb2kThe following packages cannot be authenticated!: libpq5 libpq-dev20:05
nvrpunkand if they do passwd20:05
nvrpunkthat happens20:05
rb2kanything wrong with the apt mirrors?20:05
Rev_Icon20:07
eooapt-get update maybe20:07
rb2knah, happens on every server launch20:07
eooor missing gpg keys?20:07
rb2k:-/20:07
rb2kofficial ubuntu repo20:08
rb2kall other packages seem fine20:08
jjmalinaanyone having trouble with apt-get on amazon ec2?20:08
jjmalinalooks like DNS isn't resolving for http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com20:08
daftykinsjjmalina: change the mirror?20:09
* HungrymaN_ not using ubuntu but linux mint instead20:10
cordycepswhere do I find "startup applications"? been all through the menu. can't find it. Lubuntu-13.10 w/ LXDE wm.20:10
kostkoncordyceps, have you checked in lxde's control center?20:11
nvrpunkhow can i make users who auth with tacacs able to sudo?20:12
kostkoncordyceps, 'session settings' maybe, if there is one20:12
cordycepskostkon: got it, thanks!20:12
kostkoncordyceps, np20:13
Beldarcordyceps, It may be empty if so let us know there is a command to show the apps that start.20:15
cordycepsBeldar: it's not empty. The thing is, since upgrading from .04 I notice there's no more screen saver. Installation instructions on the web dont consider the lxde option.20:19
clocKwizedoes anyone know of an article on trimming all the fat out of ubuntu 13.10?20:19
rb2kjjmalina: we have troubles with that mirror20:19
rb2knot about resolving though20:19
clocKwizelike what stuff is good to remove20:19
rb2kalthough we've had that over the last few days20:19
jjmalinarb2k: it works fine for my work machine but not that ec2 instance I'm on. I can't even curl it20:20
rb2kyeah, from within ec220:20
rb2kwe've seen that over the last few days20:20
rb2kwe do run quite a few instances though, so the sample size helps with noticing these things break20:21
adam_____what's the best way to share screens remotely for pair programming?20:22
adam_____needs to work on windows as well20:22
adam_____our company has a 50/50 mix of ubuntu and windows machines20:22
cordycepsweb seems to think evahbuddy usin gunome20:22
zimHi all. I am trying to install 13.10 64 Server on a HP micro Server and keyboard locks up as second lang select screen. Any Ideas?20:23
FATwhere i can find "softwar sorce" on ubuntu 13.1020:24
adam_____remote pairing software. What's the best option?20:24
eooFAT20:25
eooclick on the "start"20:26
FATyes20:26
eootype in software20:26
eooit should be there20:26
eooor type gksudo software-center20:26
eoointo terminal20:26
aaarghURGENT HELP PLEASE i did not save a file in libreoffice writer after  working on it for hours. it was a new file. is it possible to recover it?20:26
FATi make this i type softwar on the dash but dont apeir20:27
eooerm20:28
eootry20:28
eoosudo apt-get install -y software-center20:28
mnemonaaargh: i think it should use some temp files, but not sure where it save the stuff if you didn't save it even once ...20:28
aaarghmnemon: thank you for giving me hope. how to look for this temp file?20:29
zimaaargh: /tmp?20:30
FATyes, but i have to reinstall ubuntu becaus i broke ubuntu for the 4 time for the nvidia driver20:30
aaarghbut what am i looking for?20:31
aaarghit was a new file20:31
OerHeksaarcane_, look in Libre Office >  see: "Tools → Options → LibreOffice → Paths → Backups" for the location of your backup >> http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/6652/how-to-recover-former-version-of-document/?answer=6655#post-id-665520:31
netzapperwhat mechanism does Ubuntu use to automatically mount removable disks? I ask because I want to interrupt that mechanism, for specific disks if possible (using udev?), or for the entire system if necessary.20:32
OerHeksaaargh, if there is nothing, expensive lesson to turn on backups or save it manually20:32
netzapperoh wait... is the auto-mounting only done on desktop machines? Or does ubuntu server also automount media?20:34
hishamhello brother please What is the best system backtrack or Kali-linux ??20:36
kostkon!poll | hisham20:36
ubottuhisham: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.20:36
Picihisham: This channel is for Ubuntu, which is neither of those.20:37
aaarghthere is nothing in backups20:37
aaarghOerHeks: there is nothing in backups20:37
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hishamok ok im sorry20:37
aaarghOerHeks: but there many file in /tmp20:37
aaarghOerHeks: where should it be exactly?20:38
Sven_vB(j Node.js20:40
gregor3005hi, is anybody able to install wtp in eclipse? when i install it removes all the new project abilities from the eclipse menu20:41
adam_____anybody programming using ubuntu as the destop os?20:41
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adam_____desktop20:41
gregor3005i use the wtp repo: http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/repository/indigo/20:41
adam_____I need to know how to do remote pairing20:42
netzapperadam_____: what is remote pairing?20:43
Nemo__120:43
adam_____netzapper: google "pair programming"20:43
netzapperadam_____: oh. That kind of "pairing". Yeah, sorry... I don't swing that way, and I don't tolerate it in my shop.20:44
CheckDavidCan one install ubunto on any android phone?20:45
CheckDavid*ubuntu20:45
netzapperCheckDavid: no.20:45
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CheckDavidAt least on most?20:45
usr13!phone | CheckDavid20:45
ubottuCheckDavid: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch20:45
netzapperCheckDavid: on only a very few phones. Like, 3 to 5 models, tops.20:45
ArielXanything new in ubuntu yet20:46
CheckDavidBecause it was optimized specifically for those few models?20:46
CheckDavidhttp://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android20:46
CheckDavidI read this, but it confused me20:46
CheckDavidand the slogan is:"I n every dual-core phone, there’s a PC trying to20:46
CheckDavidget out."20:46
CheckDavidSort of made me think it would work on most new android phones20:47
ArielXlol20:47
netzapperCheckDavid: they are marketing that to cellphone manufacturers. You cannot install anything on most android phones. The ones that do work with the developer builds of Ubuntu for phone are those handful of phones that are either shipped completely unlocked and reflashable, or have been totally owned by the hacker community.20:47
CheckDavidOh I see20:48
michael_whats up guys20:48
netzapperCheckDavid: yeah. It confused me too at first. I figured it could be made to run on most phones, given root and NAND unlock. But, phones are all so different that it really only works on the most open and well-characterized of phones at the moment.20:49
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CheckDavidI see.20:49
CheckDavidThanks.20:49
welcomehii all20:49
CheckDavidIt would be beautiful if ubuntu could run as an app on android completely virtualized or something20:50
CheckDavidhehe20:50
zimHi all. I am trying to install 13.10 64 Server on a HP micro Server and keyboard locks up as second lang select screen. Any Ideas?Google says use a PS2 keyboard but the microserver has only usb ports20:50
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netzapperCheckDavid: many things in thought are beautiful that are impossible to realize in practice. :(20:51
melkorHow do I stop this mlocate.db from running so often.20:51
wicaHi, I get this on a fresh install 13.1020:52
wicaW: GPG error: http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>20:52
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adam_____netzapper: that's too bad20:53
adam_____netzapper: we also do mobbing and have "caves"20:54
adam_____very effective in situations when core pieces are being developed20:54
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S0NiCHi20:55
kostkonS0NiC, hi20:56
xangua!gpgerr | wica20:56
ubottuwica: Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key> »20:56
wicaubottu: nop, fresh install20:57
ubottuwica: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:57
netzapperadam_____: ::shrug:: I make games. If I have two programmers (and I only have one now), the last thing I want them doing is both staring at the same screen. I understand in other industries, where code is kept forever and money and lives depend on quality, the metric is different. But for me, it's wasteful.20:57
welcomewhile running saucy from live dvd, after sometime when dvd spining gets silent (maybe totally at rest)...if I open any app or give any command then dvd spin for a moment and then sounds like its stuck reading any sector kindof sound like click of death in hdd's....but I checked the live disk at boot and it says disk is totally fine20:57
wicaxangua: Nop, after a fresh install20:57
dtcrshrhello everyone. I just installed ubuntu 12.04 lts 64 on my new dell 5437 inspiron notebook. Iv booted ont he ubuntu live with no hassle, and installed just fine. but after reboot the screen is all messed up, i can hear the welcome sound, but impossible to use20:58
dtcrshris there any way to fix the video ?20:58
dtcrshri cant user ctrl alt f(x), no terminal is prompted, only a messy image20:58
Beldar!nomodeset | dtcrshr20:58
ubottudtcrshr: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter20:58
dtcrshrthanks, ill read it up Beldar20:59
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Beldarwelcome, What is the end goal with the dvd?20:59
adam_____netzapper: it's totally up to you, it doesn't, however, mean that it's not effective. Depends on who you employ: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ExtremeProgrammingForGames21:00
Beldarwelcome, Sounds more like the reader really.21:00
welcomeBeldar: nothing, I was just trying out saucy and dvd got stuck everytime asking if its a saucy problem or something else21:00
welcomeBeldar: you mean disk drive ?21:00
adam_____netzapper: I still need effective screen sharing for Ubuntu :)21:00
Beldarwelcome, Not seen anything as described with saucy, have you summed it, and yes the disk drive.21:01
netzapperadam_____: you and me both. :)21:01
S0NiC Short question: i try to send via mdadm if my SW-Raid fails. mdadm --monitor --scan --test --oneshot works finde, but if i try to set a disk failed with mdadm --manage --set-faulty /dev/md1 /dev/sda2 i got no mail...21:02
S0NiCany ideas why?21:02
S0NiC+email21:02
wicaxangua: apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5, say no change.21:02
xanguawica: use sudp21:03
xanguasudp21:03
xanguasudo21:03
deezedxangua: lol21:03
schultzaGrowl @ default file manager and nemo. My GUI file browser keep asking for my network password (samba) over and over again. I know it's right, I've recently updated it and it works on the command line.21:04
guntbertschultza: nautilus does the same here - I switched to nemo21:05
fedgalaxyHello, I want a confirmation about file extensions under Ubuntu. Do I need to write the extension of a given file or I just need to open a file and write any code such as : html, pyhton, css ...etc and Ubuntu will automatically detect which file is !21:08
dtcrshrBeldar, Iv setup the nomodeset on the grub, but now instead of the odd images I get a simple black screen, any other suggestions?21:09
schultzaguntbert: I'm having the same issue with nemo right now.21:10
schultzaIs there a location where the passwords are saved?21:10
guntbertschultza: probably :-)  but I have no idea where21:11
kmystcan't believe i'm having this problem....but does anybody know how to mount/edit a boot.img from an iso file? i've extracted it but it won't mount via loopback21:12
irc-5225225kmyst: I don't think you need to extract iso files.21:13
irc-5225225kmyst: You mount the iso file, i think21:13
alan_hola21:13
kmystirc-5225225: nonono...i need to edit the boot image of the iso21:13
Jordan_Ukmyst: What is your end goal?21:13
alan_speak spanish?21:13
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irc-5225225kmyst: So what I'm assuming is that there's a file on the iso called boot.img?21:14
Jordan_U!es | Guest4727421:14
ubottuGuest47274: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.21:14
irc-5225225if that's what you're talking about21:14
irc-5225225kmyst: what command did you use to mount as loopback?21:14
kmystJordan_U: end goal is i need to tweak it and rewrite it21:14
Jordan_Ukmyst: That's not an end goal, that's one step toward an end goal. Why do you want to tweak and rewrite it?21:15
kmystirc-5225225: yes, it's an eltoritio bootable image, specifically one with no emulation, hence it's 2048 bytes big and mount -0loop boot.img /mnt fails21:15
kmystJordan_U: heh, ok...i need to modify the batch file that runs when the cd boots21:15
Jordan_Ukmyst: Still not an end goal. Why do you want to "modify the batch file"? (And keep asking yourself "why" until you get to the *end* goal).21:17
kmystJordan_U: and while i can extract the image from the iso and/or disc, i'm running into a situation where i can't mount it (i surmise since it's no emulation and not floppy or hard disk emulation)21:17
Sazpaimon_what do I have to delete to make an ubuntu install clean? I want to make an AWS AMI from my server, but I dont want to leave any logs, user data, etc on the image21:17
Sazpaimon_just the new packages I installed, and some configuration files, and that's it?21:17
usr13kmyst: You can't mount the iso image?21:18
irc-5225225kmyst: I don't think mount supports mounting those types of images21:19
kmystJordan_U: because the silly batch file has a typo and won't load one of the three installers21:19
kmystusr13: yes i can mount the image21:19
irc-5225225kmyst: wait, what? You just said you couldn't.21:19
usr13kmyst: oh ok.21:19
Jordan_Ukmyst: So what problem are you actually having? What happens when you try to boot?21:19
kmystirc-5225225: i said i can't mount the boot.img extracted from it21:19
usr13irc-5225225: he did.... but I guess that's not what he meant.21:20
irc-5225225ah, ok21:20
usr13kmyst: file boot.img21:20
usr13kmyst: What does that say?21:20
usr13kmyst: Try gimp21:21
kmystJordan_U: ok the batch file works like this: press a for booting os installer X, press B to boot os installer Y, press C to boot os installer Z...21:21
kmystusr13: it says it's data :)21:22
usr13kmyst: Ok.21:22
guntbertusr13: why gimp?21:22
kmystthat's what i was thinking.....21:22
usr13kmyst: Because I thought it was an image, (a graphical image).21:23
kmystusr13: nope it's a boot image21:23
kmystusr13: eltorito standard21:23
Jordan_Ukmyst: Normally at boot you see a menu and you move through that menu using arrow keys rather than pressing a single key to select an entry. Is this the menu that you're taling about? Also, to be clear, Ubuntu installation media doesn't contain any "batch files".21:23
usr13I was thinking like a splash screen... :021:23
_87xmanHi all! Can you help me? I've got a little bit RAM option hardver problem.21:25
kmystJordan_U: *sigh* no this is a custom disc DOS style that has three distros on it...21:25
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_87xmanPlease help me.21:26
guntbert!patience | _87xman21:26
ubottu_87xman: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/21:26
Jordan_Ukmyst: So you're not working with the standard Ubuntu install images. You should make that clear from the beginning. We can't really help much with figuring out how other people generated their iso images and thus how to edit them.21:26
usr13_87xman: So here is how it works. You ask a question.  Someone on here that may know an answer will tell you so.  Sometimes you get lucky.21:27
_87xmanI've got 2 -  4 GB DDR III 1600 Mhz Kingston memory. But in BIOS CL time is a bit wrong.21:27
_87xmanI use 32 bit21:27
usr13Jordan_U: Thank you, (I was wondering what an intellegent reply would look like :)21:28
Jordan_Ukmyst: If you'd like to make such a disk using standard tools, like grub or syslinux, then you'll be able to find a lot of help in #grub and #syslinux.21:28
usr13*intelligent*21:28
_87xmanworks 7,9 GB but not too much faster.21:29
kmystJordan_U: right it isn't but this is just general CLI stuff, i.e. isoinfo -d -i file.iso will tell you a lot of nice info about the image, dd to extract the boot image, etc. etc......basically mundane *nix stuff21:29
_87xmanbecause the RAM is fine.21:29
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Jordan_Ukmyst: Except that most of the time what you'll find in such an el torido disk image is just executable code, with configuration files being read from files on the iso9660 filesystem. You can't mount an executable, and since we don't know the tools that created this boot.img (it's not any of the standard *NIX bootlaoders), we can't really help you figure out how to modify it.21:31
usr13kmyst: file file-name  #What does it say?21:32
_87xmanMy motherboard is Asrock N68C-GS FX . And My Memorys Kingston KVR16N11S8/4. Please help me for Bios Setup. I use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with Cinnamon desktop.21:32
kmystusr13: boot.img: data21:32
usr13kmyst: (You told me it said data  Yea...) so....?21:33
kmystJordan_U: point taken21:33
usr13kmyst: So isoinfo -d -i  is not going to help21:33
kmystusr13: nope it just tells me what i know already21:33
_87xmanCL time promlem. I think you are very well hardware set up.21:34
eduhatI've got a vnc server running on a VPS with a public IP. I can telnet to 5901 locally, but why not accross the internet? iptables is shutdown21:34
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guntbert_87xman: saying a sentence every minute is not going to get you answers sooner - nobody will read them all21:35
guntbert!enter | _87xman21:35
ubottu_87xman: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!21:35
kmystusr13: I think Jordan_U had a point that it's just executable code which kinda makes sense since the boot image isn't say emulating a bootable floppy disk21:37
_87xmanMy motherboard is Asrock N68C-GS FX . And My Memorys Kingston KVR16N11S8/4. Please help me for Bios Setup. I use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with Cinnamon desktop.CL time promlem. I think you are very well hardware set up.works 7,9 GB but not too much faster.Can you help me? I've got a little bit RAM option hardver problem.21:37
eduhatI can ssh into the box and everything, but trying to VNC fails.21:37
jdogherman|work_How do I setup a Dynamic DNS with bind?21:39
usr13eduhat: From ______________ ?21:39
usr13jdogherman|work_: named ?21:40
eduhatI am usr13 from my local pc21:40
jdogherman|work_usr13?21:40
jdogherman|work_usr13: what?21:40
schultzaresolved my samba in gui (files/nemo/etc) issue. Under smb.conf, I had to set security = user. This resolved both the window that keeps popping up to get my username/workgroup|domain/password combo.21:41
usr13jdogherman|work_: named is a Domain Name System (DNS) server, part of the BIND distribution21:41
schultzaand being to browse the network when I have a samba server running on the local computer.21:41
guntbertschultza: thx for reporting success21:42
jdogherman|work_usr13: could I then connect that to my Cisco ASA5505 DHCP server?21:42
schultzaguntbert: Your welcome. I knew you had a similar issue.21:42
dtcrshrIv set on my /linux boot inside grub iv added the nomodeset, and managed to get inside the system. Then I activated on jockey the nvidia driver, sounds promissing but now on reboot ubuntu keeps showing me the windows about "log graphic mode"21:43
usr13jdogherman|work_: Ok, I'm not at all sure what your question is.21:43
dtcrshris there a way to use ubuntu 12.04 with newer notebooks, with intel and nvidia gt740m vgas?21:43
dtcrshrlog = low21:44
jdogherman|work_usr13: I use a Cisco ASA 5505 to act as a DHCP server, I have Bind working on my ubuntu server. I want new clients to register with my ubunutu server and update bind21:44
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Ophi21:50
kostkonOp, hi21:51
OpYou can speak English?21:51
guntbertOp: Do you have an ubuntu support question?21:52
OpYea21:52
spencehow do i reset the logon screen to it's default settings (gdm)21:53
eTronikHi all, whats the supposed best place to install  apps manually  - it's a python app: http://sourceforge.net/projects/wikidpad/21:56
lar4Hi21:56
kostkon!find wikidpad21:56
S0NiCeTronik: maybe /opt21:56
ubottuPackage/file wikidpad does not exist in saucy21:57
eTroniknot /usr/lib ?21:57
lar4How can I create tiny links?21:58
S0NiCeTronik: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard21:58
Guardian1grant all privileges on \`phpBB\`.* to 'phpBB'@'localhost';21:59
subz3r0OT > lar421:59
Guardian1whats wrong with that?21:59
subz3r0!OT > lar421:59
ubottular4, please see my private message21:59
subz3r0!OT | lar421:59
eTronikS0NiC, nice21:59
ubottular4: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!21:59
lar4I have a bug with ALSA and google led me to this patch to fix it. how can i do the patch?  https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound.git/commit/?id=ae24c3191ba2ab03ec6b4be323e730e00404b4b6&id2=5c0ee9497b33cde3e57460efe4f73313dc0b57a321:59
beto61904hello21:59
beto61904boaring22:00
kostkoneTronik, zim and cherrytree are very similar to wikidpad22:00
eTronikkostkon, are they multiplatform ?22:01
zimkostkon: Sorry what?22:01
kostkoneTronik, if by multiplatform you mean windows, then yeah22:03
kostkonzim, nvm22:03
w0rmieis there a way to debootstrap ubuntu mini and what's its http location?22:03
Sloppstahello guys im having wifi issues on ubuntu 12.04 with lxde is anyone else experiencing this or knows of a fix?22:04
schultzaSloppsta: What kind of issues. We need more details, please.22:04
Sloppstait keeps cutting in and out and is extremley slow. 50kbps slow. i have an edimax usb adapter and the n routher is only 15 feet away22:05
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Sloppstai found their driver on edimaxs website. i tried to build it but ran into some error. completley new to linux so my head is hurting lol22:06
schultzaWhat build error did you get? If possible, create a pastebin.com article for us.22:06
schultzaor paste.ubuntu.com article22:07
belgianguyHi, xsane and simple-scan all crash with a segfault on 13.1022:07
belgianguyon 13.04 and earlier they worked though22:07
Sloppstasec22:07
belgianguy(with the same hardware)22:07
zimSloppsta: IMHO there are plenty of wifi cards that just work(tm) on ebay for peanuts not worth the agro22:08
schultzazim: You're assuming he has time/money to wait for a new one. :)22:08
zimIn this situation time could be a factor money not so much .22:09
lar4I have a bug with ALSA and google led me to this patch to fix it. how can i apply patch?22:11
eden_i wanted whenever i start gnome-terminal perform a command and i've gone to settings of the gnome-terminal and here that says open with a command instead of a shell, i typed the command that i wanted.Now when i try to open the terminal it opens for the blink of the eye.How can i fix that?22:11
Guardian1sudo for files in config.php cache files store images/avatars/upload/; do chmod 777 $files; done22:12
Guardian1-bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'22:12
Guardian1whats wrong with that command?22:12
mrjWhat are those bundled packages that got popular with ubuntu called again? Like it'll be an entire LAMP/LEMP stack . kind of like bitnami stuff22:12
mrjI think it was an acronym22:13
mrjah PPA22:13
Sloppstahttp://pastebin.com/qg08HGDM22:15
dtcrshrcan anyone help me? I just installed ubuntu. on the live boot the system works like a charm, but after reboot I got a blank screen or flickering screen. Iv set nomodeset on grub to get into the system, but I cant make the video work permanently22:16
dtcrshrim on a del inspiron 5437, with intel and nvidia gt 740m22:16
eden_I want whenever i open my terminal,perform a specific command.How can i do that?22:17
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knightshadeeden_: just adding the command to your .bashrc should work22:21
eden_knightshade, where the .bashrc is located?22:22
knightshadeeden_: echo "some command" >> ~/.bashrc22:22
eden_knightshade, with the "?22:23
knightshadeeden_: it's a hidden file in your home folder22:23
knightshadeeden_: press ctrl+h in your file manager to see hidden files22:23
eden_knightshade, thanks22:25
eden_knightshade, but with the locate command it doesn't give me any location to my home folder22:26
eden_I have to say Ubuntu 13.10 looks really neat!22:28
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lar4I have a bug with ALSA and google led me to this patch to fix it. how can i apply patch?22:28
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knightshadeeden_: it should be there if you haven't deleted it :-)22:31
adam_____How do I share my desktop with others for pair programming?22:34
eden_adam_____, search for desktop sharing22:35
eden_adam_____, i am using 13.10 and i have it22:36
adam_____eden_: most don't allow control of other desktop.. Also must work between Linux<->Windows22:36
adam_____maybe that last part is a nice to have22:36
eden_adam_____, you can control other's desktop22:37
Highest5Hey guys I'm running ubuntu 12.04 32-bit and want to install the 64-bit version. I have it on a live disc and already have my disk partitioned. ubuntu itself is only taking up about 20gb. I just want to replace the 32-bit with the 64. When I'm doing the install, do I just delete the partition sda1 (the ubuntu partition) and add another one for the 64 bit?22:38
eden_adam_____, it doesn't work with linux-windows22:38
Ice_StrikeWhat is this for: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jcfp/ppa22:39
eden_adam_____, did you tried skype?22:40
bjensen82my isp has given me 4 ips. How to I let  ubuntu know of them?22:41
eden_echo df -h22:41
john_doe_jrWhat are test updates?22:42
k1lIce_Strike: that adds a 3rd party repo to your ubuntu22:42
Highest5Anyone know about reinstalls without completely wiping the hard drive?22:43
zimbjensen82: sent you a sample22:46
bjensen82zim: so its an up statement for each ip i have?22:47
bjensen82Zim: I only have one nw card22:47
zimSo do I look all point at eth022:47
SnowRaptorHey there!22:47
SnowRaptorIn how much trouble will I be if I download a kernel from kernel.org and use make oldconfig with the default 12.04 .config file?22:48
Guest76495ciao a tutti22:50
jhutchinsSnowRaptor: It would be an interesting experiment.  You would lack the debian/ubuntu kernel patches.22:50
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Ice_StrikeDoes Ubuntu Server come with GUI?22:51
k1lIce_Strike: no. just CLI22:51
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k1lthat is why its called server22:51
Ice_StrikeCool22:52
Ice_StrikeIs there Ubuntu Server Mini?22:53
k1lIce_Strike: i think you mean netinstall?  the server is quite mini22:54
SnowRaptorjhutchins, thet's more or less the point. I'm trying to get rid of a video bug22:54
Ice_Strikesudo: add-apt-repository: command not found22:54
Ice_StrikeWhy?22:54
wiricusI had some trouble installing OpenSCAD, gave unmet dependencies error. Is this because I only have ubuntu 10.04 and not 12.xx22:59
xangua!find add-apt-repository | Ice_Strike23:00
ubottuIce_Strike: File add-apt-repository found in software-properties-common23:00
k1lwiricus: the desktop version is EOL for 10.0423:00
k1l!eol | wiricus23:00
ubottuwiricus: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades23:00
daftykins^she's dead.23:00
wiricusoh crap. so i should definately upgrade?23:00
kostkonwiricus, it's time to upgrade23:01
kostkonwiricus, yes23:01
wiricusrgr23:01
wiricusis that likely the source of that error then?23:01
kostkonwiricus, no idea, you havent given us any extra info23:02
beandogwiricus: most likely23:02
camilohola soy colombiano coy nuevo en ubuntu23:02
beandog!es | camilo23:02
ubottucamilo: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.23:02
beandogcamilo: bienvenido :)23:02
k1lwiricus: i suggest it doesnt matter if it is the error or not. you need to upgrade anyway.23:03
camilono ayuda no solo quiero conocer estos espacios23:04
camiloalguien de otro pais que hable español23:04
kostkoncamilo, this is an english only channel23:05
k1lcamilo: english in here only, please23:05
wiricusalright thanks.   And -$ sudo apt-get upgrade should Take car of this, no?23:05
k1lcamilo: you were already told, #ubuntu-es is a spanish channel23:05
k1lwiricus: see the bots message23:05
wiricuseerr, what bot, srry23:06
beandogwiricus: not you23:06
k1l!eol | wiricus23:07
ubottuwiricus: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades23:07
k1lwiricus: ^23:07
wiricusrgr23:07
wiricusokay. upgrading. wish me luck.23:11
wiricusadios23:11
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john_doe_jrhey what are test updates?23:11
travisHey everyone23:14
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Guest33436just a quick question if you are only booting ubuntu like me, when u boot up what does it do?23:15
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buntu__ahhhh the usual silence of IRC :)23:19
k1lLNegative: can you rephrase?23:21
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Highest5anyone have any ideas on 12.04 32-bit vs 64-bit?23:22
gordonjcpHighest5: get 64-bit, unless you want this Skype thing23:22
beandoguse 64-bit if you have 4+ GB of RAM23:22
beandogor plan to23:22
Highest5I do use Skype23:22
Highest5I have 4 gb of ram23:22
gordonjcphm23:22
bekksUse 64bit whenever you have 64bit hardware.23:23
beandoggordonjcp: really? skype doesn't run?23:23
gordonjcpbeandog: no idea, I don't use it, but it seems to be deeply problematic23:23
beandogdoes Ubuntu ship with 32-bit compat libraries?23:23
Highest5but I only use skype for text chat23:23
beandoggordonjcp: I wouldn't be surprised23:23
gordonjcpI don't really see the point of skype23:23
aeorilI installed Ubuntu 13.10 in a Windows 8.1 Hyper-V VM as the guest OS.  The first time I did the install, I selected to install updates during install.  After installation, when I went to check on my software it was corrupt and had to be fixed.  I reinstalled into the same VM from scratch (deleting previous install) and did not select auto update.  I had no problems the second time.  Should I23:23
aeorilreport a bug?23:23
k1luse 64bit23:23
Highest5Well, I already have the 32 bit running23:23
beandoghow much ram do you have23:23
k1lonly if your cpu doesnt run 32bit.23:23
gordonjcpaeoril: only if you can reproduce it23:23
buntu__I have 4gb ram and 13.10 32bit sees all the ram....23:23
gordonjcpHighest5: meh, leave it then23:23
k1lthere is no reason to not take 64bit23:23
daftykinsbuntu__: probably using a PAE kernel23:23
gordonjcpHighest5: if it works don't fix it23:23
beandogbuntu__: it maxes at 4gb23:24
aeorilgordonjcp ok, I can work on that - I can easily do it with the vms23:24
k1lram is not the reason to take 64bit :/23:24
buntu__ahh23:24
gordonjcpaeoril: that might be useful to know23:24
aeorilgordonjcp (I mean I can easily try to do it)23:24
beandogk1l: well, yah, there's lots of reasons.  but it's still a choice.23:24
k1lHighest5: skype works since ages for me on 64bit23:24
gordonjcpaeoril: not particularly to me, I'm not clever enough for Windows23:24
gordonjcpaeoril: but file a bug23:24
aeorilgordonjcp ok, thanks - I'll go ahead and do some testing.23:25
Highest5standby gotta phone call23:25
k1lbeandog: you can choose to install kernel 1.0. but nobody wants to to that too23:25
buntu__I use 32bit because the 64bit install always hangs and says it can't find a live file system23:25
beandog?23:25
LNegative?23:25
beandogwhatevs.23:25
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w0rmiewhere i can find downloaded files using wget tool?23:26
beandogw0rmie: dumps them in your current directory23:26
k1lw0rmie: in that directory just type "pwd" to see the full path23:27
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w0rmiei'm on /23:27
k1lw0rmie: so guessing you use sudo or are root?23:28
w0rmiei am with root on NFSROOT23:30
rizqibintanghello all23:30
rizqibintangmorning23:30
* beandog hates guessing games23:30
beandogw0rmie: what are you trying to do23:30
w0rmiei am trying to install nfsbooted from the old releases archives23:31
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rizqibintangeneng ra wong jowo23:33
w0rmiesorry i used the -P to get the whole path, it's fixed, thank you beandog :)23:34
beandogcool cool23:35
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w0rmiei left linux since 2008, and i didn't touch a computer since 4 years ago :)23:36
Highest5okay sorry guys...had to take a phone call...23:36
w0rmiegood luck guyz23:36
Highest5about this whole 32-bit vs 64-bit ubuntu idea.23:36
k1lHighest5: take 64bit if you cpu can handle that23:36
Highest5We'll I have 4gb of ram so I think it can handle it.23:37
Highest5sorry, k1l, I have 4gb of ram so it should be able to handle it.23:37
k1lHighest5: most modern cpus can handle 64bit. so in most cases it should work23:38
Highest5My question really is, since I already have 32, and a partitioned hard drive. The OS only takes up about 20 gb.23:38
Highest5The rest of my hard drive is just my home folder.23:38
beandogHighest5: oh okay, nicely done then23:38
beandogjust don't screw up the partition section when reinstalling. :)23:38
beandogthat would be bad.23:38
Highest5So during the installation process, when I click "something else" do I delete the sda1 partition (the os) and add another one? or will the computer just know I want to replace the 32 with the 6423:38
beandogHighest5: don't delete it, just mark it as active, and to reformat it23:39
Highest5haha beandog, that's why I'm here. To make sure I don't screw it up.23:39
beandogwell, you could do either.23:39
beandogbut I would just go into the mount part23:39
beandogand tell it to mount it as /23:39
beandogthen to mount /dev/whatever as /home23:39
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k1lHighest5: well, you can say to the installer it shoul use the old / as the new /23:39
Highest5I have /home already set up. That's where all my music and pictures are.23:40
k1land the old/home as the new /home. then it will install into / (click formating for / NOT for /home)23:40
Highest5k1l, / should be the 20 gb partition right?23:40
beandogk1l: thank you, that's what I was trying to say :)23:41
Highest5the one that actually has to os23:41
k1lHighest5: if you say your old / was about 20GB and the bigger ine was /home, yes23:41
Highest5so when I go into the installer, I just format / and proceed with installation without adding or deleting my partitions?23:42
chroanyone can tell me a good app to annotate pdfs ?23:42
k1lyes23:42
beandogHighest5: just look over it carefully before you proceed.  It'll make sense.23:42
BodsdaHi Guys -- recently I've noticed that my screen config (nvidia-settings creating the xorg.conf) aren't sticking after a reboot -- specifically my screen positioning -- any ideas?23:42
Highest5Seems simple enough. and since /home is a separate partition of the hard drive there's no NEED to back it up right? the only part being adjusted is /23:43
k1lHighest5: but you need to tell the installer that the old /-partition will be the new /-partition (wich the check by formating) and that the old /home-partition is the new /home-partition without formating23:43
Highest5just so I understand completely23:43
k1lHighest5: yes, just be aware what you choose to mount where and where you check the formating23:43
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Highest5k1l: well in the installer I would just click /, then click format. let it do it's thing, not touch anything else, and start clicking continue like when I first installed the 32-bit23:44
k1lHighest5: nope23:44
sean___!pastebin23:45
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k1lHighest5: you need to choose manually partitioning. then choose the 20GB partition, choose mount as /, choose formatin, then choose the bigger partition, choose only mount as home, then proceed23:45
beandogyahp23:46
beandogexactly that23:46
Highest5ahhhhhhhhhh okay23:46
Highest5I remember having to do that when I partitioned the hard drive.23:46
beandogso, format, not re-partition23:46
k1lHighest5: if you dont choose the old /home to be used as new /home, that will no be used23:46
beandogand you'd have to modify your /etc/fstab on the new install .... which is *not hard* at all23:47
beandogone line of code23:47
beandogunless your home is encrypted23:47
Highest5beandog: ya lost me23:47
Highest5it's not encrypted (as far as I'm aware)23:47
beandogthat's my specialty23:48
beandogthen you're fine23:48
aeorilgordonjcp also, I get this error whenever I boot (top line highlighted in white): http://i.imgur.com/7tZccsh.png - wondering if that is something to do with the Hyper-V VM also (it prints out to the screen during boot)23:48
beandogBasically, I'm saying, if you don't click reuse /home, you can still fixxor it, but after it's installed23:48
Highest5My entire hard drive is 20 gb os, about 5gb for swap, and the rest (of the 500 gb) is /home23:48
chroanyone can tell me a good app to annotate/comment pdfs that does not occupy much space ??23:48
akurilinQuick question. Is there a place I can plug in an xrandr call before my DE/WM of choice is initialized as I log in through the default Ubuntu greeting screen in precise?23:49
beandogakurilin: uh, kind of23:49
Highest5okay I'm just about to go get this done....but now will all the programs I use still work in the 64-bit version?23:49
beandogthe real question is, what ar eyou trying to do23:49
beandogHighest5: that's the golden question.23:50
Highest5Skype, Compiz, Xchat, pidgin?23:50
Highest5I don't need skype for video calls, just the group text chats23:50
beandogHighest5: meh, you're fine.23:50
akurilinbeandog: right now I have xmonad get started however Ubuntu does it by default when you install it through APT from the default repos. In order for the xmobar status bar to work correctly, the xrandr call I use to order screens correctly needs to be made before xmonad starts.23:50
beandogakurilin: oh okay23:51
Highest5okay cool. But one last question and I'm sure it's really dumb, and I'm sure the answer is no.23:51
akurilinbeandog: I think without a DE picker you'd do this by configuring .xsession23:51
beandogakurilin: right, that's what I was going to suggest ... put it in there ... for root, I guess.23:51
beandogakurilin: I imagine even the xdm is going to load it23:51
akurilinbeandog: is there a way to bypass the default greeting scrreen then?23:51
beandogakurilin: that's a feature of the xdm23:52
beandogakurilin: and yes, you can23:52
Highest5But I mess around with rooting android phones. Before I do any work with them I always backup the phone exactly as it is, so if something goes wrong, or I don't like it, I can restore it to what it was before I started messing with it. Can that be done in this scenario as well?23:52
Highest5just in case?23:52
beandogHighest5: eh, what you really need to backup is /etc23:52
beandogyou can pretty much ignore everything else.23:52
beandogHighest5: even then, all the user config stuff is gonna be in $HOME anyway23:53
mistawrighthi guys i need some help. i have been working on migrating  a plesk server and flipped the switch to the new server today. I am running into an issue where the new server is pointing back to old one. where on ubuntu would I find my dns configuration?23:53
akurilinbeandog: ok I'll rummage around try to figure this out, thanks23:53
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akurilinmistawright: run nm-tool23:54
beandogakurilin: if you wanna disable the dm completely, and just directly login with your user, then... that might be easier, but harder to setup.  Lots of options, of course. :T23:54
Highest5beandog: okay, I'll go take a look. I don't want to screw anything up. So if somethings not feeling right, I'll just come back here. If everythings fine, I'll come back and give additional thanks to you and k1l23:54
akurilinmistawright: also generally the DNS is configured by NetworkManager through the applet23:54
sean___I receive this error when I try to run 'gnome-settings-daemon'. I am running i3-wm on Ubuntu 13.04.23:54
Highest5but as for now thanks for the help23:54
sean___http://paste.ubuntu.com/6553876/23:54
beandogHighest5: good luck.23:54
k1lHighest5: if you are unsure come back and ask again23:54
beandogHighest5: you could always do a trial run in VirtualBox or something23:54
akurilinmistawright: unless you disabled that and are configuring this by hand thorugh resolv.conf23:54
beandogHighest5: just to see how it works23:54
Highest5I can do that?23:55
Bizzehhi, does anyone know how to get rsync to find only a certain filename, and only sync files by that filename? but, keeping the directory structure that that file exists within?23:55
mistawrightakurilin: what package is nm-tool part of? its not on my 12.04 lts server23:55
beandogHighest5: well, I mean, not for *your* specific setup, but you could duplicate the scenario.  install ubuntu 32-bit with a separate /home partition, then reinstall to 64 bit and keep /home23:55
akurilinmistawright: I'm actually curious to know if ubuntu server bothers with that toolset at all23:56
akurilinmight be a desktop-only piece23:56
akurilincheck resolv.conf to see if it's being managed23:56
mistawrightakurilin: yeah no networkmanager daemon either23:56
Highest5I think I got it. It's not the first time I've installed the os. Just the first time I replaced it since partitioning the hard drive. every other time I just let ubuntu take the entire HDD and fully wiped it23:56
beandogHighest5: right.23:56
Highest5But I'm off, hopefully, I'll return with good news. Thanks again beandog and k1l23:57
beandogHighest5: if you're uncertain though, I'd do a dry run.  I'd be unhappy if I lost 500 Gb of data.23:57
rokon1Hello Ubuntu users! I have a major major problem. After ubuntun 12.10 crashed, (i use grub to dual boot with win8) it boots to a blank pruple screen and hangs. help!?23:58
rokon1Hello Ubuntu users! I have a major major problem. After ubuntun 12.10 crashed, (i use grub to dual boot with win8) it boots to a blank pruple screen and hangs. help!?23:59

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