[00:00] <g0nz0w> Beldar: thanks, I'm going to wipe peppermint and load ubuntu on this machine to see if that will fix me
[00:00] <Xcytre>  /q
[00:01] <waykool> is super sa,e as WIN key
[00:01] <darkc0der> Hi all, I seem to be having an issue on my windows partition for my wireless card. I'm running XUBUNTU 13.10/WIn7 64 bit. My wireless was working absolutely fine on Windows, but I changed some things on my Linux partition due to very slow wifi. I was reading stuff of this place --> http://www.unixmen.com/resolve-slow-connexion-when-using-wifi-in-ubuntu-1104-natty-narwhal/#sthash.YBiyplyp.dpuf  If anyone can help.. thanks.
[00:02] <Helasraizam> Yes, they're the same waykool
[00:02] <palan> hello i am trying to install broadcom wifi driver on 13.10 and i dont know which version of debian i am running so i can follow the instructions
[00:02] <Beldar> g0nz0w, That might do it, ubuntu has larger and better support in my opinion.
[00:02] <waykool> merci
[00:02] <Helasraizam> pdp
[00:03] <Beldar> palan, debian has it's own channel, this is ubuntu support.
[00:03] <palan> Beldar, don't you know what version of Debian Ubuntu 13.10 runs?
[00:04] <Beldar> palan, Just confirming you are running ubuntu 13.10, not sure why you would mention debian if so.
[00:04] <Helasraizam> Even with Bumblebee installed, login leads to a black screen.  Any diagnostics I can run to see what's wrong more specifically while I'm in bash?
[00:04] <k1l_> palan: there is no version of debian in ubuntu
[00:04] <Beldar> palan, There is no such thing as a debian ubuntu per-say.
[00:04] <Beldar> !broadcom | palan
[00:05] <palan> beldar, thank you. i followed that link last night and i have been unable to complete the process
[00:07] <Beldar> palan, Cool, just in detail if you can share what you have done so far and any problems or errors to the channel
[00:07] <palan> Beldar,Ok im just taking a look at it again
[00:08] <Beldar> palan, Be sure to identify the actual card here as well, running lspci in the terminal will show you the broadcom card.
[00:08] <shawn1963> Do we have anyone here that can point to the pinguy support channel?
[00:08] <palan> beldar, thanks thats the command i was looking up
[00:09] <darkc0der> Beldar, You got a second bud?
[00:09] <palan> #pinguy ?
[00:09] <rostam> HI I would like upon ssh to my ubuntu 12.04, the /etc/profile to be sourced, is there a way to configured this on any login? thx
[00:09] <shawn1963> ubuntu derivative
[00:10] <v0latil3> i need help with key bindings. im using cinnamon 2 with ubuntu 13.10. i cant use the alt button in counter strike. when i press and and left/right click it doesnt shoot. i cant find what is taking the focus away from CS
[00:11] <v0latil3> i tried changing gnome settings and cinnamon settings
[00:11] <v0latil3> im not sure what the problem is
[00:13] <shawn1963> can someone here help a noobie out with a root password problem?
[00:13] <v0latil3> you cant have the root password
[00:13] <shawn1963> hehe
[00:13] <v0latil3> its a secret only i know
[00:14] <shawn1963> I know I forgot it.  Can u at least give me a hint :-)
[00:14] <shawn1963> I know it has some letters and numbers.
[00:15] <v0latil3> idk probably do sudo passwd if thats possible
[00:15] <palan> beldar, ok so i have BCM4313 and on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx it says I can do either the wl or brcmsmac drivers. wl gives two options, bcmwl-kernel-source, which i tried and ddidn't fix the problem, and  broadcom-sta , the instructions for which i wasn't able to comprehend. I also couldn't understand the i
[00:15] <palan> nstructions for the brcmsmac drivers
[00:15] <v0latil3> why do you need it
[00:15] <v0latil3> i dont know mine
[00:15] <jrib> !root | shawn1963
[00:16] <shawn1963> oooohhhhh durrrrrr
[00:16] <shawn1963> thanks
[00:16] <davez> ciaoo
[00:16] <Helasraizam> Wait what the heck?  Did that bot take the input "root" and connect to Shawn losing his pw??  That seems awful specific for a keyword as general as "root"
[00:17] <davez> ok it's work
[00:17] <v0latil3> im using cinnamon 2 with ubuntu 13.10. i cant use the alt button in counter strike. when i press and and left/right click it doesnt shoot. i cant find what is taking the focus away from CS
[00:17] <davez> eaheah i hope unity will end early
[00:17] <shawn1963> so there is a "root" password or not?
[00:17] <v0latil3> yes there is
[00:17] <v0latil3> just dont use it
[00:18] <Dodgu> What is the responsibility Canonical?
[00:18] <k1l_> !root | shawn1963
[00:18] <v0latil3> its technically not impossible though
[00:18] <Helasraizam> v0latil3, did you remove the key binding http://askubuntu.com/questions/122209/how-do-i-modify-or-disable-the-huds-use-of-the-alt-key ?
[00:18] <v0latil3> that is for unity
[00:18] <Dodgu> ?
[00:18] <davez> yeee of course.. but seems to me just a little bit to much  " apple"  u know XD
[00:18] <v0latil3> and i dont even see the option
[00:19] <Dodgu> hey?
[00:19] <v0latil3> i turned that off in CCSM
[00:19] <palan> hello
[00:19] <davez> hola
[00:19] <davez> you see what i write=
[00:19] <v0latil3> its some kind of shortcut that has <alt> + <mouse1> or something like that
[00:19] <Dodgu> What is the responsibility Canonical?
[00:19] <davez> ?
[00:19] <Helasraizam> oic
[00:19] <v0latil3> Dodgu, what do you even mean by that?
[00:19] <davez> you can see what i write?
[00:20] <v0latil3> davez, no i cant see
[00:20] <davez> eaheha thanks and sorry :)
[00:20] <v0latil3> Helasraizam, how would i find what is taking alt + mouse1?
[00:21] <Helasraizam> For me that moves the windows around
[00:21] <Helasraizam> but alt+mouse2 doesn't do anything
[00:21] <Dodgu> I'm making a little robot now and will install Ubuntu on it.
[00:21] <adamsilver> what do you guys think about System 76 laptops?
[00:22] <Helasraizam> maybe http://askubuntu.com/questions/118151/how-do-i-disable-window-move-with-alt-left-mouse-button-in-gnome-shell ?
[00:22] <v0latil3> i have dont that
[00:22] <Helasraizam> If you alt+click and drag it doesn't do anything?
[00:23] <Dodgu> Soon the robot begins to kill people, and Canonical will be responsible for this?
[00:23] <Dodgu> yes?
[00:23] <v0latil3> Helasraizam, no nothing
[00:23] <v0latil3> Helasraizam, it used to drag the window but not any more
[00:23] <Helasraizam> oh you disabled that too
[00:23] <Helasraizam> That would have been my suggestion :)
[00:25] <v0latil3> hmm
[00:25] <v0latil3> what is the meta key
[00:25] <v0latil3> KB layout says alt is also a meta key
[00:27] <Tex_Nick> 13.10, gnome fallback/flashback de ... my hyperlinks in several apps (XChat, Libre Office Calc & couple others) no longer work as usual ... when i try to open a hyperlink, it just opens a new firefox window with my default home page (www.google.com) ... if i change my default browser to Chrome ... the hyperlinks open just fine ... any suggestions ?
[00:28] <deusr> help-me!! "DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)"
[00:28] <deusr> when you plug in the iphone and ipad this message appears
[00:29] <v0latil3> so dont plug in your iphone, or get a driver for it
[00:30] <v0latil3> what distro are you using
[00:31] <v0latil3> can i just entirely disable shortcuts in game?
[00:31] <deusr> v0latil3, ubuntu 13.10 and elementaryOS
[00:39] <veex> after doing a autoremove, ubuntu fails to boot. i tried going into recovery mode to clean packages, but that fails. when the system boots, it gives me an initctl event ctl faile.d what can cause this?
[00:39] <coventry> I have a 12.04 system I am thinking of upgrading.  "update-manager -d" gives me the option to upgrade directly to 14.04.  Is this safe, and if not how should I go through the canonical upgrade path (12.04->12.10->13.04->13.10, I presume)?
[00:40] <noname071896> lol
[00:40] <veex> anyone?
[00:40] <noname071896> ^that was a test
[00:40] <noname071896> you passed
[00:41] <zorw> #Ubuntu-bug-trackers
[00:41] <v0latil3> this really sucks
[00:41] <v0latil3> real reason gaming on linux isnt good
[00:41] <veex> can i use iwconfig to put in a username and password for a network?
[00:42] <coventry> Oh well, it's a snapshotted vbox.  The worst case is not so bad.
[00:42]  * coventry takes the plunge
[00:42] <noname071896> when i try to launch dota 2, it claims to be missing some dependencies, but all of the listed dependencies are in the /bin/ folder. any solutions?
[00:42] <newguy1029> Hi, I need help resolving dependencies. I'm trying to install libcurl4-gnutls-dev on 12.04 but there are unmet dependecies. Please help. Thank you.
[00:42] <beandog> o.O
[00:42] <beandog> upgrading to an unsupported beta release is not so bad??
[00:42] <beandog> okay then
[00:42] <v0latil3> noname071896, how do you deal with keyboard shortcuts while playing that?
[00:42] <apb1963> I would like to have mail sent to the "nobody" user instead go to root.  I added the alias to /etc/aliases and ran "newaliases" yet nothing changed, mail still goes to "nobody"
[00:43] <apb1963> any ideas on that?
[00:43] <v0latil3> i am playing counter strike, all sorts of button combos minimize/close/move windows and other stuff
[00:43] <noname071896> v0latil3, i just press them, i don't know
[00:43] <coventry> beandog: I'll back off to the snapshot if I don't like it.
[00:43] <noname071896> they are in the settings
[00:45] <newguy1029> Please can anyone help with broken dependencies? Or tell me where I can find help?
[00:45] <Kryto01> I love my Ubuntu2
[00:45] <noname071896> newguy, do you know what the dependencies are?
[00:46] <imeon> I search someone for broke the password that have create in a small program, if someone interested contact me at... imeon.1er@gmail.com... thanks!!
[00:46] <newguy1029> noname071896: Yes. This is the message... libcurl4-gnutls-dev : Depends: libldap2-dev but it is not going to be installed
[00:46] <Kryto01> we'd rather have a pig in a poke than a poke in a pig, love myubuntu2
[00:46] <noname071896> newguy1029, can you install it manually?
[00:47] <newguy1029> noname071896: Do you mean copy the files manually?
[00:48] <fedgalaxy> Hello, how do i remove all traces of Wine. When I switch my interface back to ubuntu classic, under the main menu I can see that wine still exist somewhere (im running 12.04 LTS).i wanted to make sure that Wine is completely removed from everything even in cache
[00:48] <thiebaude> fedgalaxy, did you purge it in the terminal
[00:48] <thiebaude> ?
[00:48] <noname071896> newguy1029, no i mean sudo apt-get install packagename. do you know the package name?
[00:49] <REDBOII> hii folks sup
[00:49] <newguy1029> noname071896: That is what I tried and received the error message
[00:49] <Beldar> fedgalaxy, If you have purged wine open home hit ctrl-h to un-hide and delete the wine folders hidden.
[00:49] <fedgalaxy> thiebaude, i did
[00:49] <thiebaude> ok
[00:50] <noname071896> newguy1029: do you know the name of the package it depends on?
[00:50] <newguy1029> noname071896: To be specific, i typed... sudo apt-get install libcurl4-gnutls-dev
[00:50] <fedgalaxy> Beldar, ok i will do it. maybe wine has other files names
[00:51] <Helasraizam> When I log in I just see a black screen in Ubuntu 13.10
[00:51] <newguy1029> noname071896: I also tried sudo apt-get install libldap2-dev , but there is a broken dependency there too
[00:51] <Beldar> fedgalaxy, I believe it is in all folders with wine in the name
[00:51] <noname071896> newguy1029: try sudo apt-get install libldap2-dev and then try installing your package
[00:52] <fedgalaxy> Bledar, Yes I found the hidden folder under Home dir, Thank yuou
[00:52] <REDBOII> sup
[00:52] <Beldar> fedgalaxy, YOu can search with wine in home as well, just have it set as not hiding.
[00:52] <fedgalaxy> Beldar, Yes I found the hidden folder under Home dir, Thank yuou
[00:52] <noname071896> newguy1029: nevermind, i just saw your message
[00:52] <newguy1029> noname071896: sudo apt-get install libldap2-dev gives "libldap-2.4-2 (= 2.4.28-1.1ubuntu4) but 2.4.28-1.1ubuntu4.3 is to be installed"
[00:53] <REDBOII> HERES THE NEWS ALL OF YOU JUST GOT HACKED BY THE ONE N ONLII
[00:54] <Beldar> hehe, if I was hacked it would be a lonely dusty find of nothing.
[00:54] <fedgalaxy> I totally removed CUPS because i couldnt close the default listening port, does it make my system not good?
[00:55] <noname071896> newguy1029: that is weird, best i can tell, it is trying to tell you that there is a more recent version of libdap, but that's just my own translation and it could be wrong. i'm stumped
[00:56] <newguy1029> noname071896: thank you for trying. do you know where i might find some help?
[00:56] <Villiska> I installed the "Calibri" font from Google on my Ubuntu 13.10 and it made a lot of fonts look really messed up. However, I can't find it in the /usr/share/fonts or /usr/local/share/fonts or even the ~./.fonts folders. I have no idea where else to search for it to remove the fonts I installed.
[00:57] <Villiska> My reason of wanting to remove the font is because it looks deformed on Ubuntu and I don't know how to fix that either.
[00:58] <noname071896> newguy1029: i'd say just keep trying to find somebody more knowledgeable than me XD. to be honest all of my computer skill has been poking around and trying things. It seems a daunting task, but i'm sure if you try to test some things and put in different codes, you can solve the problem yourself. Good Luck!
[00:58] <REDBOII> hi im back sorry bout that pc typing issues
[00:58] <newguy1029> noname071896: thank you
[00:58] <REDBOII> kk
[00:59] <bazhang> REDBOII, did you have an actual ubuntu support question?
[00:59] <REDBOII> yes
[00:59] <REDBOII> how do i add a package when it keeps on trippin
[01:00] <bazhang> !details | REDBOII
[01:00] <Villiska> I installed the "Calibri" font from Google on my Ubuntu 13.10 and it made a lot of fonts look really messed up. However, I can't find it in the /usr/share/fonts or /usr/local/share/fonts or even the ~./.fonts folders. I have no idea where else to search for it to remove the fonts I installed.
[01:00] <Villiska> My reason of wanting to remove the font is because it looks deformed on Ubuntu and I don't know how to fix that either.
[01:01] <Guest75974> Villiska: how did you install the font?  In the software center or the terminal?
[01:01] <Villiska> Neither. I downloaded the .ttf and used the install button when you click it in the previewer
[01:01] <REDBOII> Im runin unbuntu version 2.30.2 and when im installing a package (debain) it works for a bit then frezzess and dnt start again
[01:02] <bazhang> REDBOII, that is not a valid ubuntu version
[01:02] <REDBOII> bazhang. wat
[01:02] <REDBOII> this is wat it says
[01:02] <bazhang> REDBOII, there is not a version 2.30.2 of ubuntu
[01:03] <Villiska> Any ideas Guest75974?
[01:03] <REDBOII> Are you sure
[01:03] <REDBOII> i think this  is wierd
[01:03] <Guest75974> Gnome 2.30.2 was last Gnome released under v2.  Probably his mistake
[01:04] <bazhang> !version | REDBOII
[01:04] <Helasraizam> Anyone know how to troubleshoot a blackscreen on login?
[01:04] <Villiska> Is it possible to do a system scan for a certain file so I can remove it on Ubuntu 13.10?
[01:04] <bazhang> !nomodeset | Helasraizam
[01:04] <REDBOII> My version is 10.04.3
[01:05] <Helasraizam> Thanks Villiska, but my grub alreadyhas nomodeset
[01:05] <REDBOII> Sorry bout tht
[01:05] <Helasraizam> (I added it manually); still black on login
[01:05] <CyanBlob> Villiska, you can try locate "FILENAME"
[01:05] <Villiska> That was baz not me
[01:05] <Helasraizam> mb thx
[01:05] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | REDBOII
[01:06] <Helasraizam> Baz, thanks, but I have nomodeset already enabled in grub--still a black screen
[01:06] <Villiska> CyanBlob, so just "locate filename" in the terminal? I don't have the exact file name
[01:06] <Villiska> I'm new
[01:06] <Guest75974> Villiska: locate filename should work
[01:07] <fedgalaxy> How to show hidden files/folders everywhere on Ubuntu, how do i make it a by default.?
[01:07] <CyanBlob> What are you lookking for? Locate can return locations based on a partial name
[01:07] <Villiska> CyanBlob, want me to paste my problem here again or PM you it?
[01:07] <Villiska> It's driving me crazy
[01:08] <CyanBlob> Villiska, I might not be too much more helpful than what I already said
[01:08] <CyanBlob> Villiska, but go ahead
[01:08] <Villiska> Well it's sort of unrelated.
[01:09] <Villiska> I installed the "Calibri" font from Google on my Ubuntu 13.10 and it made a lot of fonts look really messed up. However, I can't find it in the /usr/share/fonts or /usr/local/share/fonts or even the ~./.fonts folders. I have no idea where else to search for it to remove the fonts I installed.
[01:09] <Villiska> My reason of wanting to remove the font is because it looks deformed on Ubuntu and I don't know how to fix that either.
[01:09] <Villiska> A website required Calibri so I installed it
[01:10] <REDBOII> Hello, this is wat im getting can you help http://0.0.0.0:8080/5cI8bjc
[01:11] <jswagner> Villiska: installing a single font shouldn't change the behavior of other fonts
[01:11] <Guest75974> Villiska: Installing one font should not cause all your other fonts to look strange.  Did you install anything else recently other than just the font?
[01:11] <REDBOII> i also got  this http://192.168.2.6:8080/5cI8bjc
[01:11] <Villiska> Nope. I just installed like 5 Calibri fonts (bold, mono, etc)
[01:11] <Villiska> Then I refreshed the page and I had the fonts
[01:11] <Villiska> but they look deformed
[01:11] <Villiska> It didn't change all of my fonts
[01:11] <CyanBlob> Villiska, I found this online. It may be a solution http://goo.gl/eK7dOP
[01:11] <Villiska> just the websites that use Calibri in their CSS
[01:12] <CyanBlob> But I'm not sure. I've never had that problem before
[01:12] <Villiska> All I need to do is locate the font file and remove it. But, I'm not able to find it in the typical font folders
[01:12] <Villiska> is my only problem really
[01:12] <Guest75974> did you try "locate calibri" in the terminal?
[01:12] <Villiska> Yeah, it just brought me back to my hostname
[01:12] <Villiska> or whatever
[01:12] <jswagner> Villiska: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[01:12] <Villiska> Nothing showed
[01:12] <jswagner> Villiska: look under the 'Manually' section, many additional paths are located there
[01:13] <Villiska> Thanks, I'll have a look.
[01:15] <Guest75974> Valliska: You mention calibri is a google font?  I can't find it in google fonts.
[01:16] <Villiska> Oh, jswagner it looks like they only named the 3 locations I said in my original comment
[01:16] <Villiska> The font file isn't there though which is what is confusing me
[01:16] <REDBOII> Villiska y arent you talking to me
[01:16] <Villiska> Because you're trolling and I'm focusing on my own problem
[01:16] <jswagner> you checked ~/.fonts
[01:16] <jswagner> ?
[01:16] <Villiska> Yes.
[01:16] <Villiska> There isn't any fonts there at all
[01:16] <Villiska> Just an empty folder called Library
[01:16] <newguy1029> Could anyone else help me with 12.04 broken dependencies for libcurl4-gnutls-dev?
[01:16] <Villiska> All of my fonts are in /usr/share/fonts, but I can't find the Calibri ones in there.
[01:16] <jswagner> You installed using the GNOME Font Viewer?
[01:16] <Villiska> Um, I think so.
[01:16] <Villiska> I clicked the .ttf file and it opened up a previewer
[01:16] <Villiska> and I installed from there.
[01:16] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades   <--- REDBOII
[01:16] <jswagner> run 'gnome-font-viewer' and confirm that is the right application you used
[01:16] <jswagner> Guest75974: it's a Windows 7 font, not a Google font.
[01:16] <Villiska> No, I googled the font and downloaded it from a website from there is what I meant. Sorry, Guest75974
[01:16] <bazhang> upgrade to a supported version per that link REDBOII
[01:18] <Villiska> jswagner,  I'm using Font Viewer that lists all of your fonts, and I can see the Calibri fonts here but I can't see them in the Font Manager
[01:18] <Villiska> It's weird.
[01:18] <Villiska> I can't uninstall or locate the directory from the font viewer though.
[01:19] <Helasraizam> Just a suggestion, open the calibri file again.  Maybe instead of install it'll say uninstall?
[01:19] <Villiska> It doesn't. It just says "Installed" and it's blanked out so you can't click it.
[01:19] <jswagner> Villiska: open a terminal, run 'gnome-font-viewer'.  is this the same program that opened when you previewed/installed the font?
[01:20] <Villiska> What is the full command jswagner?
[01:20] <Villiska> I'm very new to Linux
[01:20] <jswagner> gnome-font-viewer
[01:20] <jswagner> 1) Open Terminal.
[01:20] <jswagner> 2) Type 'gnome-font-viewer'.
[01:20] <CyanBlob> Villiska, if you open /etc/fonts/fonts.conf, it has a directory section that will show the directories where the font could be installed. Have you looked in all those directories for the font?
[01:20] <Villiska> Oh, I'll look.
[01:21] <REDBOII> Ummm I need sum help
[01:22] <bazhang> REDBOII, then upgrade to a supported version
[01:22] <k1l> !details | REDBOII
[01:22] <bazhang> REDBOII, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades  <--------- read the link
[01:22] <bazhang> REDBOII, your version is End Of Life, upgrade it
[01:23] <Villiska> Yeah, it's not in any of them CyanBlob
[01:23] <Villiska> How odd..
[01:23] <REDBOII> ok thanks
[01:24] <Villiska> There's no way to just search my entire system for a file or something? A program?
[01:25] <Villiska> If I could just type "Calibri" it'd bring up 4-5 results that I could just delete
[01:25] <CyanBlob> Villiska, just to double check, "locate calibri" returns nothing? What about "locate -i calibri"?
[01:26] <Villiska> CyanBlob,
[01:26] <Villiska> josh@desktop:~$ locate calibri
[01:26] <Villiska> josh@desktop:~$ locate -i calibri
[01:26] <Villiska> josh@desktop:~$
[01:26] <FloodBot1> Villiska: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:26] <Villiska> Nothing happens
[01:26] <Villiska> Oh, sorry
[01:29] <Villiska> CyanBlob,  did you get my messages? I got the floodwarning by accident
[01:30] <adamu> Hello
[01:30] <CyanBlob> Villiska, yes I got them
[01:30] <CyanBlob> I'm doing some Googling
[01:30] <Villiska> Oh okay thank you very much
[01:31] <CyanBlob> The only other solution I can find is to disable bitmapping for Cleartype fonts
[01:32] <metrix> I installed Ubuntu and can ping google.com, but cannot ping my local servers. Example pinging dev.lan.  I have been running Debian stable for several years, did something change in Ubuntu with local DNS?
[01:33] <CyanBlob> If you create a file called .fonts.conf in you home directory, and then paste the code from http://pastebin.com/d6qaYzfk into it, save the file, then log out and then back in your font may render properly, removing the need for you to delete the font at least
[01:36] <vee88> i keep trying to dhcpc wlan0, but it takes too long and fails. just wondering if anyone knew why.
[01:36] <rizqibintang> mau tanya ni
[01:37] <rizqibintang> Command 'lesspipe' is available in the following places
[01:37] <rizqibintang>  * /bin/lesspipe
[01:37] <rizqibintang>  * /usr/bin/lesspipe
[01:37] <rizqibintang> The command could not be located because '/usr/bin:/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.
[01:37] <rizqibintang> lesspipe: command not found
[01:37] <rizqibintang> Command 'dircolors' is available in '/usr/bin/dircolors'
[01:37] <FloodBot1> rizqibintang: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:37] <rizqibintang> how come back terminal normal
[01:37] <Villiska> CyanBlob,  the problem with that was that I already have a .fonts.conf file and it has stuff written in it so I didn't touch it.
[01:38] <Villiska> I mean, when I installed the font, it must have stored a file somewhere for the font to work...I didn't think it'd be this hard to find it or something
[01:38] <Villiska> That's crazy
[01:38] <CyanBlob> Yea, I agree
[01:38] <rizqibintang> help me please
[01:38] <CyanBlob> I'm not sure where else to look for it
[01:39] <jp-> is there any way to get a block cursor such in Gnome Terminal for all text input fields?
[01:39] <CyanBlob> Are you positive that you downloaded calibri, and not something else on accident?
[01:39] <vee88> no matter what i do, wlan0 will not get an ip address.
[01:39] <Villiska> Yes CyanBlob  because I can see the fonts in my font viewer program
[01:39] <Villiska> but it doesn't tell me the directory it's in or an uninstall option
[01:39] <rizqibintang> gyus,,,, how came back terminal normal
[01:40] <rizqibintang> rizqibintang@ubuntu:~$
[01:40] <vee88> my schools network is an open wifi. so i went into recovery mode, used iwconfig wlan0 essid "school name" and when i try to dhclient wlan0, i get a message saying it took too long to connect
[01:40] <CyanBlob> rizqibintang, please explain your problem
[01:41] <rizqibintang> Command 'lesspipe' is available in the following places
[01:41] <rizqibintang>  * /bin/lesspipe
[01:41] <rizqibintang>  * /usr/bin/lesspipe
[01:41] <rizqibintang> The command could not be located because '/usr/bin:/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.
[01:41] <rizqibintang> lesspipe: command not found
[01:41] <rizqibintang> Command 'dircolors' is available in '/usr/bin/dircolors'
[01:41] <FloodBot1> rizqibintang: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:41] <rizqibintang> The command could not be located because '/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.
[01:41] <rizqibintang> sed: command not found
[01:41] <rizqibintang> Command 'ls' is available in '/bin/ls'
[01:41] <rizqibintang> The command could not be located because '/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.
[01:41] <FloodBot1> rizqibintang: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:41] <rizqibintang> ls: command not found
[01:42] <vee88> cant someone please, for the love of sweet baby jesus, help me get wifi up on this computer. im at school with no computer and a final tow ork on lol
[01:43] <rizqibintang> help me,,, gyus,,,, how came back my terminal normal,,,
[01:43] <buu> vee88: Can you manually assign a specific ip? And if you're at school, go bother the IT department
[01:44] <imeon> vee88 did you try to make a research for the driver of your wifi card?
[01:44] <vee88> buu i dont think i can. also, the IT department isn't very good with linux. the guy i asked said we dont work or support it
[01:44] <CyanBlob> rizqibintang, try typing "export PATH=/usr/bin:/bin"
[01:44] <vee88> imeon i have an atheros card
[01:44] <vee88> ifconfig shows my wlan0
[01:45] <Beldar> vee88, You might note that this is a worldwide channel crossing cultures and social systems. A reference to a spiritual might offend some and is not really a channel friendly comment.
[01:45] <vee88> Beldar:i apologize. i hope i didn't offend anyone.
[01:46] <vee88> so, how can i get this network up?
[01:47] <vee88> we have one thats a secured connection, but that requires a username and password, though i dont know how i can connect ot it
[01:47] <rizqibintang> thank
[01:47] <CyanBlob> rizqibintang, did that solve your problem?
[01:47] <rizqibintang> can't gyus
[01:47] <rizqibintang> where you text input in my PC
[01:47] <CyanBlob> In a terminal
[01:47] <imeon> atheros is pci card?
[01:47] <rizqibintang> can't interminal
[01:48] <JordanJ2> Hello, I am looking to use Ubuntu on a bridged network in a vmware vm to have 2 seperate connections. When I switch it to bridged the connection just keeps connecting. (Ubuntu 12.04 <- Guest Host -> Windows 8 x64)
[01:49] <rizqibintang> thank gyus....
[01:53] <imeon> vee88 what version of ubuntu do you have?
[01:54] <vee88> imeon the newest one
[01:54] <vee88> 13.10
[01:54] <imeon> try to connect with invisible network and enter coords for wpa personnal... the name of the secured network and the key of the network...
[01:54] <vee88> imeon:the school network uses eduroam if that helps.
[01:55] <doctorZeus> JordanJ2 details on "keeps connecting?"  Where are you seeing it do that.  And have you reviewed the host for supernumerary network protection apps like firewall, iptables, peerblock, etc.
[01:55] <vee88> imeon:there are no invisible networks. there really isn't much
[01:56] <imeon> try 12.10 version of ubuntu i had the same problem with 13.10 version
[01:56] <vee88> i cant downgrade
[01:56] <vee88> i dont have anything to install
[01:57] <imeon> install with bootable usb key?
[01:57] <vee88> imeon:i dont have one on me
[01:57] <JordanJ2> doctorZeus, I have, it will stay on the "connecting" then say "disconnected" try again etc
[01:59] <vee88> woot!!! i got the network to ocnnect!
[01:59] <technickul> hi :)
[02:00] <imeon> vee88 did you have dvd-writer?
[02:00] <Helasraizam> I installed Ubuntu 13.10 and have nomodeset in the grub, but I get a black screen upon login
[02:00] <Kane_Hart> Hello, I was wondering if anyone here knows much about Containers and if I could ask a couple simple basic questions that I'm a bit iffy on it when I did some research.
[02:00] <doctorZeus> it works using NAT?
[02:00] <doctorZeus> is it wireless?
[02:00] <JordanJ2> Yes
[02:00] <JordanJ2> No
[02:00] <twb> Deos canonical still do that thing where they snail-mail you a copy of the install media?
[02:00] <nespik> No they don't.
[02:00] <ainx> ubuntu with KDE so f*** powerful :D
[02:01] <twb> Aw.
[02:01] <imeon> vee88  good
[02:01] <doctorZeus> that's weird dude.  I would check again for network protection on the host
[02:02] <doctorZeus> what antivirus is host running?
[02:02] <JordanJ2> Avast
[02:02] <JordanJ2> Keeps telling me it's borked thought.. but that's for ##windows
[02:03] <doctorZeus> and you dive bombed Avast to ensure there's no network protection/firewalls
[02:04] <Beldar> !language | ainx
[02:04] <JordanJ2> Yes
[02:05] <JordanJ2> It does not have a firewall
[02:05] <edoceo_web> I'm trying to get Perl + DBI to work, I've done `apt-get install libdbd-pgsql` - but I still see that DBI is not installed when I run the script
[02:05] <ainx> sorry
[02:05] <ainx> :)
[02:06] <edoceo_web> It shows Can't locate DBI.pm in @INC - so how does one do DBI on Ubuntu?
[02:08] <imeon> edoceo_web use the logitec
[02:08] <yeats> !find perl dbi
[02:09] <yeats> !info libdbi-perl
[02:09] <yeats> edoceo_web: 'sudo apt-get install libdbi-perl'?
[02:09] <edoceo_web> I've installed libdbi-perl, apt-get reported no errors but DBI does not work
[02:09] <buu> edoceo_web: How many Perls do you have?
[02:09] <Freeder> Hello - I have terminal access to a server that I just plugged a firewire HD into, but I don't see it mounted anywhere... where should I look to see more info? dmesg doesn't show any recent events
[02:09] <edoceo_web> One
[02:10] <edoceo_web> 5.14 , I'm on Precise
[02:10] <buu> edoceo_web: What does this say: perl -MDBI\ 9999
[02:10] <edoceo_web> Can't locate DBI.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .). BEGIN failed--compilation aborted.
[02:10] <yeats> edoceo_web: 'locate DBI'
[02:10] <buu> edoceo_web: and where does dpkg -L libdbi-perl; say it put DBI.pm ?
[02:11] <edoceo_web> WTF, it says that package is not installed
[02:11] <nicknack> so im attempting to repair some broken packages since ubuntu failed to reboot after a autoremove, however, i noticed some of the files its downloading aren't even installed.
[02:11] <BONG_IT_> good day i have a problem in browsing mozilla firefox
[02:12] <nicknack> i ran a sudo apt-get -f intall
[02:12] <edoceo_web> But the apt-get installed didn't report any errors
[02:12] <BONG_IT_> is their any problem in yahoo.com cant check my emails
[02:12] <nicknack> libreoffice, for example, is not installe.d yet its download it it
[02:12] <Beldar> nicknack, Pastebin the errors from that command and a update upgrade from the terminal, and give some details.
[02:12] <buu> edoceo_web: I just use cpan to install perl modules..
[02:13] <yeats> edoceo_web: on my 13.10 system, it's installed at /usr/lib/perl5/DBI
[02:13] <imeon> BONG_IT what's your problem with Firefox?
[02:13] <edoceo_web> yea, but CPAN is the wrong way to do it when your distrbution has apacakge manager, so says every Linux user I've met since 1999
[02:13] <Beldar> nicknack, What release is this and desktop?
[02:13] <yeats> edoceo_web: yeah, I'd stick with APT where possible
[02:13] <buu> edoceo_web: I beg to differ, but it depends on what you're trying to do.
[02:13] <edoceo_web> So, here's the issue: libdbd-pgsql can be installed but doesn't bring in libdbi-perl
[02:14] <nicknack> beldar this is ubuntu minimal 13.10. i have no browser to paste it to paste bin
[02:14] <buu> That is a little odd.
[02:14] <edoceo_web> Yea, I'm just trying to keep the machine maintainable
[02:14] <buu> But dbh::pgsql doesn't always require dbi. Just most of the time.
[02:14] <BONG_IT_> everytime i browse in yahoo specially in mail always page cannot display
[02:14] <Beldar> nicknack, So just the base install no desktop?
[02:14] <buu> *dbd
[02:14] <nicknack> beldar i had pantheon, but after an auto update, it doesn't boot at all. so im trying to repair the files
[02:15] <buu> edoceo_web: Anyway, apt-get remove --purge libdbi-perl; apt-get install... ?
[02:15] <Beldar> !pastbinit | nicknack for pastebins
[02:15] <Beldar> !pastebinit | nicknack for pastebins
[02:16] <nicknack> Beldar:it wont install because of unmet dependencies, and its asking me to do a -f install
[02:17] <Geo> I have terminal access to a server that I just plugged a firewire HD into, but I don't see it mounted anywhere... where should I look to see more info? dmesg doesn't show any recent events
[02:17] <edoceo_web> I'm good, thanks buu, yeats, - just have to install libdbi-perl before installling libdbd-pgsql
[02:17] <Beldar> nicknack, Yes, and I asked for some specific pastebins and gave you a bot notice on doing it from a terminal.
[02:17] <edoceo_web> On Gentoo the DBD-PG package brings in the DBI package, if it's not installed - I expected Ubuntu to do the same - but, whatevs I'm all good now
[02:17] <nicknack> i dont mind doing a -f install, but idk why its pulling in things i've never installed
[02:18] <imeon> BONG_IT  maybe yahoo use last version of some web editor like flashplayer and it's why you can't see your mail display, use an other email compt... like gmail
[02:18] <Beldar> nicknack, Is pantheon, from a PPA?
[02:19] <doctorZeus> JordanJ2 I don't have any more ideas for you.  Are you able to provide any error messages from the guest?   Last time I'll say it heh but I wouldn't rule out security on the host as the issue until I was absolutely certain-- because NAT working bridged not sounds textbook security app issue..I would disable every network/malware/fw/security service I had and try again.  Is there any chance the hostname of guest is same as the host
[02:23] <Helasraizam> If anyone gets bored, I've got a blackscreen on login just itching to entertain!  [Ubuntu 13.10]
[02:23] <BONG_IT_> gmail is ok in firefox also other pc's using windows has no problem in browsing in yahoo only in ubuntu had problem
[02:25] <imeon> BONG IT do you have a message to update your flashplayer when you go on youtube?
[02:25] <nicknack2> im curious as to how many packages can be broken from just one autoremove. theres like 300mb of stuff it downloaded
[02:28] <Beldar> nicknack2, There is no limitation per-say, you have to be aware of dependencies and what you ad or remove.
[02:28] <nicknack2> it looks like it got rid of pantheon too.
[02:29] <nicknack2> lets hope it reboots
[02:29] <imeon> nicknack2 use bleachbit to clean your RAM
[02:29] <nicknack2> nope. after rebooting, when elementary-os should go up, it goes to a black screne.
[02:29] <Beldar> nicknack2, Is pantheon from a PPA I see it as part of elemetaryOS
[02:29] <nicknack2> i mean pantheon
[02:30] <nicknack2> yes, it was working just fine up until i did a clean
[02:30] <Beldar> nicknack2, elemetaryOS is not supported here.
[02:30] <nicknack2> now it wont boot at all.
[02:30] <Beldar> they have a channel
[02:30] <nicknack2> pantheon is a ppa
[02:30] <Beldar> !ppa | nicknack2
[02:31] <ResQue> i just typed "/rm -r /boot/grub", but it also removed "/boot/EFI" can someone please tell me why?
[02:31] <Beldar> nicknack2, Just making sure at the least you are aware of what is actually supported.
[02:32] <nicknack2> i figured you guys would know what i can do to get the system back up.
[02:32] <Beldar> nicknack2, Well I asked for some info and gave you the method on doing so and had to repeat questions so........
[02:33] <nicknack2> Beldar: you asked me to install pastebin, and, i was unable to get it to install until i did a -f install first.
[02:33] <nicknack2> i shall post it again, once i install it. -f just finihsed
[02:34] <Beldar> nicknack2, I doubt I can help, with the info I have now, others may be able to though.
[02:34] <Beldar> I would if I felt I could
[02:35] <nicknack2> grr. this schools network is a nightmare. now it wont give me an ip
[02:35] <Beldar> nicknack2, If it were me I would install another minimal desktop like lxde so that you have one to work from if you need a gui X
[02:36] <imeon> yes like xubuntu or lubuntu
[02:37] <nicknack2> ill install fluxbox if need be, the system just doesn't boot up pantheon
[02:37] <nicknack2> i even tried reinstall pantheon
[02:38] <nicknack2> let me get fluxbox going so i can paste bin everything
[02:38] <nicknack2> never mind. pantheon force loads itself.
[02:38] <imeon> nicknack2 what is your PC P4?
[02:38] <Beldar> nicknack2, Cool that makes sense so you can communicate with the channel easily.
[02:39] <imeon> i have P4 2ghz with 2gig of RAM and i use lubuntu and i do everything fast
[02:40] <imeon> sorry a P4 3ghz
[02:40] <SetiAmon> hey i have a weird issue my monitor keeps turning off after about ten minutes or so but i have all power saving features turned off!
[02:41] <imeon> SetiAmon look your screensaver option
[02:43] <nicknack2> imeon:no im running an i7 lol
[02:44] <imeon> hahaha
[02:44] <imeon> go with ubuntu
[02:44] <imeon> is very stable
[02:45] <Beldar> SetiAmon, 12.04?
[02:45] <jrib> is anyone aware of actively developed eye tracking software for linux (that allows one to control the mouse pointer for example)
[02:46] <Beldar> jrib, You would need something to read your eye at the least.
[02:46] <jrib> Beldar: sure, using a webcam
[02:47] <Beldar> jrib, heh I don;t think so, nice dream though.
[02:47] <jrib> Beldar: see opengazer and gnome-mousetrap.  They're just not actively developed
[02:47] <Beldar> get some google glasses
[02:47] <Beldar> I will pass but thanks
[02:47] <somsip> jrib: http://is.gd/jUGdDU
[02:48] <imeon> i know nothing in that kind of eye capting
[02:48] <imeon> tracking
[02:48] <jrib> somsip: thanks, I think there's one in there that shows promise
[02:49] <pox> Hey chaps, I just got a weird error.  I was running a bunch of flash, display froze so I manually rebooted.  When I tried to login it I entered my password and instead of going to desktop it bumped me back at the login screen.
[02:49] <somsip> jrib: Lots of options. I cant vouch for any of them though
[02:49] <pox> I fixed the problem by removing /.Xauthority then restarting.  Can someone explain to me what the hell happened?
[02:50] <imeon> I search someone for broke the password that have create in a small program, if someone interested contact me at... imeon.1er@gmail.com... thanks!!
[02:51] <nicknack2> the people at elementary are not very responsive.
[02:51] <nicknack2> sweet lord, what have i done. lol
[02:52] <nicknack2> someone how i think this is an xorg related issue
[02:52] <pox> I just had one of those too, nick.
[02:53] <pox> I dunno what your issue is though.
[02:53] <ResQue> how can i get the original /etc/grub.d and /etc/defaults/grub files?
[02:53] <deezed> ResQue: maybe boot-repair? guys?
[02:53] <buu> ResQue: Look in the.deb?
[02:54] <ResQue> i thought if i installed the grub2 and grub2-common package i would get them back, but that didnt owrk
[02:55] <nicknack2> is there a way to force reinstall the package, all of it, from scratch?
[02:55] <deezed> ResQue: what exactly did you do?
[02:55] <ResQue> deezed: i deleted them
[02:55] <ResQue> deezed: by them i mean the folder /etc/grub.d/* and /etc/defaults/grub
[02:56] <Beldar> ResQue, You trying to reinstall from the desktop or a live cd?
[02:56] <imeon> nicknack2 you have to erase the package first
[02:56] <deezed> you mean that you were running bash as root and deleted them? why?
[02:56] <ResQue> Beldar: from the desktop
[02:57] <ResQue> i thought the grub config files would be in the grub2 package, am i wrong?
[02:57] <imeon> ResQue or with a usb bootable
[02:58] <Beldar> ResQue, sudo apt-get purge grub grub-common grub-pc && sudo apt-get install grub-common grub-pc
[02:58] <ResQue> imeon: i dont understand the question
[02:59] <deezed> ResQue: did you try to run a 'dpkg-reconfigure -a' ?
[02:59] <imeon> sorry that was a complement of Beldar say
[03:00] <lilred> hey guys, I enabled OpenVPN tunneling on my server and now it won't answer, which raises all kinds of questions
[03:00] <lilred> the server is an OpenVPN client
[03:00] <ResQue> deezed: now i will try that now
[03:00] <lilred> does enabling OpenVPN client on a device make it unresponsive to SSH via its non-VPN address?
[03:01] <buu> lilred: Its possible!
[03:01] <buu> lilred: Depends on what the vpn server tells its routing table to do
[03:01] <nicknack2> i've given up. idk what else i can possibly do to fix this thing.
[03:02] <lilred> I wonder if there is a way to enable OpenVPN client without sacrificing local access
[03:03] <ResQue> Beldar: thank you, your method worked. i think the first time i tried to remove i used --purge and not just purge would this have done something different?
[03:03] <Beldar> nicknack2, I would use ubuntu, I mean like lubuntu then set it up, more support in the end.
[03:03] <deezed> lilred: like using vpn just for some tasks?
[03:03] <Beldar> ResQue, I never use --purge so not really sure
[03:04] <ResQue> Beldar: ok, thanks for the help
[03:04] <lilred> deezed: exact;y!
[03:04] <Beldar> ResQue, No problem.
[03:04] <deezed> lilred: ok, like what?
[03:04] <nicknack2> Beldar:i dont have anything that i can use to install it!
[03:04] <ResQue> deezed: problem solved, i used Beldar apt-get purge idea. thanks for the time
[03:04] <lilred> deezed: Ideally I'd want the VPN to be available through some virtual network device that I can manually tell my programs to connect to
[03:04] <lilred> torrent client, mainly.
[03:04] <Beldar> nicknack2, You said you used a minimal 13.10.
[03:04] <deezed> ResQue: good!! np
[03:05] <nicknack2> i did, but odn thave anything that i can reinstall the system with. and pantheon forces itself to load osmehow
[03:05] <deezed> lilred: uhm, I think you can write a script for that
[03:05] <nicknack2> idk how
[03:05] <Beldar> nicknack2, mini is a net install you can load whatever desktop and on servers etc....
[03:05] <Beldar> or*
[03:06] <nicknack2> yes i know that, however, i dont have a flash drive or cd to burn it and go through a reinstall
[03:06] <lilred> deezed: any idea what I should put in that script? :)
[03:06] <Beldar> nicknack2, Ah, how did you do it this time?
[03:06] <nicknack2> i was at home. now im at school
[03:06] <nicknack2> i was suppose to ge ta paper going, but that didn't work
[03:06] <deezed> lilred: you could tell it that the torrent program is a variable
[03:06] <Beldar> nicknack2, If you have  grub boot you can load the iso to it.
[03:06] <deezed> lilred: and if that variable is running; then use vpn; done
[03:07] <deezed> lilred: else; dont use it
[03:07] <deezed> done
[03:07] <deezed> fi
[03:07] <lilred> don't you think there's a way to use VPN concurrently with my other stuff?
[03:07] <Beldar> nicknack2, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[03:08] <Beldar> !ppa-purge | nicknack2 remove the ppa and install a desktop
[03:09] <deezed> lilred: try check it up here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1820884.html
[03:11] <nicknack2> Beldar:i shall try to purge it out
[03:13] <deezed> lilred: I was reading some other forums and people said that you could run a virtual machine exclusively for this torrent with vpn... i dont know if its the only way, but its one of them at least
[03:13] <nicknack2> lets hope it doesn't force elementary on me again
[03:13] <lilred> deezed: oh well, thanks!
[03:13] <nicknack2> still trying to load elementary
[03:13] <deezed> lilred: you'r welcome
[03:14] <Beldar> nicknack2, If this was a mini 13.10 install and you remove the ppa's it should set you to the base install ready for a desktop, if the base is all there.
[03:14] <nicknack2> it is a minimal, but its still forcing elementary to install
[03:14] <Beldar> nicknack2, You gotta use the ppa-purge though.
[03:14] <nicknack2> not install, sorry
[03:14] <nicknack2> i did use ppa-purge!
[03:18] <nicknack2> can i setup ubuntu minimal with wpa_supplicant?
[03:21] <Beldar> nicknack2, probably, I have just run it with ethernet though, I am seeing info on the web that suggests you can.
[03:22] <Beldar> nicknack2, Basically the base install from the mini is the server install if that helps.
[03:22] <xangua> Beldar: no, it's not
[03:23] <Beldar> xangua, I used the term basically not exactly
[03:24] <Beldar> xangua, You are welcome to help the user.
[03:24] <xangua> just came
[03:25] <Beldar> xangua, A messed up pantheon ppa install from a ppa, using a minimal 13.10 is the decription.
[03:26] <Beldar> xangua, Wants a to  setup ubuntu minimal with wpa_supplicant, I gave them them the iso from grub boot, so not sure if this is for the actual install or in lieu of running a new iso load.
[03:27] <Beldar> I'm not really a cli master is all, I use a desktop always
[03:29] <Beldar> nicknack2, Do you have wifi with the minimal install, it seems you don't?
[03:29] <imeon> nicknack if you can with school network try to burn on cd lubuntu installer
[03:29] <imeon> first and after create a usb ubuntu 13.10 installer
[03:29] <imeon> on a usb key
[03:30] <Beldar> no cd or usb I believe
[03:31] <imeon> :-(
[03:34] <imeon> interesting this ubuntu channel
[03:34] <imeon> i have pass good moment
[03:35] <nicknack2> Beldar:i have wifi now. i got it up. i know how ot work it with wpa_supplicant. im wonder if the minimal install has wpa_supplicant so i can set it up
[03:35] <imeon> i still continue programming
[03:36] <deezed> imeon: cool, I'm also trying to do so
[03:37] <PhatTony> What are common linux commands
[03:38] <Beldar> PhatTony, sudo get a manual
[03:38] <nicknack2> man EVERYTHING
[03:39] <xangua> !terminal | PhatTony
[03:44] <yjw> hello
[03:46] <PhatTony> #list
[03:49] <naryfa> 		hi
[03:50] <deezed> naryfa: hello
[03:50] <cfhowlett> deezed, greetigns
[03:51] <deezed> cfhowlett: hey, hows going?
[03:52] <cfhowlett> deezed, great.   what's your ubuntu issue?
[03:52] <ccmonster> hey, is this where I should go to ask about ubuntu partitino/installation
[03:53] <cfhowlett> ccmonster, yes.  ask away.
[03:53] <deezed> cfhowlett: I actually dont have one.. is just that naryfa has said hi, and I said hello! =) maybe he has one
[03:53] <ccmonster> got an ssd and a 2TB hdd.
[03:53] <ccmonster> I want to install everything but home and the large bin dirs to the ssd.
[03:53] <naryfa> nope, I came here with hope I'll help somebody lol
[03:53] <ccmonster> i am currently in the live usb right now
[03:54] <Beldar> ccmonster, this a dual boot and if so with what and it's release?
[03:54] <ccmonster> it's nothing at the moment, but will be Windows, not sure if I will go windows 8. More likely Win7
[03:55] <Beldar> ccmonster, This a uefi computer, a custom, maily do you have gpt partitioning?
[03:55] <Beldar> mainly*
[03:56] <ccmonster> it's custom buit. Not sure about uefi, and what is GPT partitioning
[03:56] <Beldar> ccmonster, just a partitioning schema with a specific partiton table.
[03:57] <ccmonster> ok
[03:57] <ccmonster> im down to use whatever is suggested
[03:57] <Beldar> ccmonster, Is the live seeing the HD and any partitions if there are any?
[03:57] <Beldar> HD and ssd
[03:58] <ccmonster> the live is seeing the ssd, a different HD (dying, which is why this started in teh first place), and the 2TB drive actually isn't in there at the moment
[03:59] <Beldar> ccmonster, how big is the ssd?
[03:59] <ccmonster> Beldar: 60GB
[04:00] <Beldar> ccmonster, Cool, generally if you have windows you want it first on a disc, you plan on it being on the ssd or the 2 tb HD?
[04:01] <yes1> Hi all. I'm having a curious network issue, maybe someone can help. When I ping most servers, everything seems fine; no packet loss, good ping reply. But when I use any other services from the same servers, e.g. browse, then I lag from ~200ms to ~2000ms, with a transient packet loss of ~30%. Any idea?
[04:03] <ccmonster> i would say the HD, Beldar
[04:03] <deezed> yes1: maybe you are running others process that are using internet as well?
[04:03] <ccmonster> idk, maybe it makes sense to have the SSD as well, IDK
[04:03] <Beldar> ccmonster, Cool, you can just have ubuntu install to the ssd, without partitioning it, the install will do it and make a swap.
[04:04] <Beldar> ccmonster, YOU could have windows and ubuntu on the ssd.
[04:04] <yes1> deezed: hmm, I haven't checked that.
[04:04] <ccmonster> any snags with doing that Beldar
[04:04] <yes1> I will look into this. Thanks
[04:05] <deezed> yes1:  maybe a pstree or even a ps aux can help you with that
[04:05] <yes1> deezed: I'm doing it right now..
[04:05] <deezed> okok
[04:06] <Beldar> ccmonster, Windows would need two partitions a boot and C, you can just make a ntfa filling up the first part with gparted and have ubuntu install along side in the rest unallocated, so that when you do the windiws install it would be the first partitions.
[04:06] <Beldar> ntfs*
[04:07] <Beldar> ccmonster, Windows can with a custom install not have the boot partiton if you just load it to the pre made ntfs.
[04:09] <Beldar> ccmonster, If any of this is confusing, that is okay, just ask questions and we can walk you through it. ;)
[04:10] <yes1> deezed: so far, I'm averaging 5kbit/sec from my wlan. That's about it. The problem has started a few days ago. I've tested from another computer under the same connection, and the problem is similar. Anyhow, I might have to call the ISP, but I think they're "throttling" my data somehow
[04:10] <deezed> yes1: they always do that
[04:11] <ccmonster> ok, so as a precaution, create a ntfs partition on the ssd
[04:11] <ccmonster> at the beginning
[04:11] <deezed> yes1: suddenly, when you are expecting a 10mb connection, you realize its actually 5mb that you are dealing with
[04:12] <yes1> deezed: Yeah, I went from 1.2 meg/sec to 12k/sec now...
[04:12] <ccmonster> Beldar: how do i set up the gpt
[04:12] <ccmonster> when i go to format its asking for primary and logical etc in the live usb
[04:12] <deezed> yes1: lol thats so radical.
[04:12] <yes1> deezed: thanks for your help. pstree did show a curious process though. I'll look into that
[04:12] <ccmonster> which isn't a feature of gpt, from what I read
[04:13] <Payton> How do I know what partition is an ubuntu partition?
[04:13] <deezed> yes1: ok no problem
[04:13] <Beldar> ccmonster, Not sure there I don't use gpt, I was coming from a msdos setup as it seemed the ssd was msdos.
[04:13] <Payton> I can't find my ubuntu partition in partition manager xD
[04:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Payton: Disks (gnome-disks) will tell you
[04:13] <Payton> SonikkuAmerica: ?
[04:14] <Beldar> ccmonster, If you made this computer and it is new enough it probably has a uefi setup, but that is out of my area as well.
[04:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Payton: Open "Disks" from the Unity dash
[04:15] <ccmonster> i made this computer a few years ago
[04:15] <ccmonster> so, possibly not.
[04:15] <Payton> SonikkuAmerica: I'm trying to find my ubuntu partition in windows..
[04:15] <Payton> SonikkuAmerica: So I can remove it from my other PC
[04:15] <Payton> SonikkuAmerica: So I can have 1 win8 and 1 ubuntu :)
[04:15] <SonikkuAmerica> Payton: Oh... Windows wouldn't be able to tell you, because it can't read Ubuntu's default filesystem (ext4) out of the box.
[04:16] <Beldar> ccmonster, Some like gpt, it seems to have some advantages, I have not used it so I'm a msdos user primarily as far as partition tables and partitions.
[04:16] <Payton> SonikkuAmerica: Exactly, how can I find the ubuntu partiton? is there any program>
[04:16] <Payton> ?
[04:17] <deezed> Payton: you can run in ubuntu the command 'df'
[04:17] <ccmonster> ok, so if i got traditional
[04:17] <ccmonster> i just format it as a logical parition
[04:17] <ccmonster> it (ssd)
[04:17] <Payton> deezed: What would that do?
[04:18] <deezed> list your partition specifications
[04:18] <Beldar> ccmonster, A logical is inside a extended, if you want windows on there put a ntfs big enough for it and install ubuntu in the rest of the space.
[04:18] <Payton> deezed: So then I can go back and erase the ubuntu partition on windows?
[04:18] <ccmonster> i cannot choose ntfs from the live usb in installation type
[04:19] <ccmonster> let me open gparted
[04:19] <deezed> Payton: I think so, but the better thing to do is to erase it from one ubuntu itself
[04:19] <Beldar> Payton, YOU stated you would never remove linux yesterday after I spent a long time showing you how per your request.
[04:19] <Payton> deezed: Would It remove the GRUB menu too?
[04:19] <Payton> Beldar: I have two PC's xD
[04:19] <Payton> Beldar: I want one ubuntu one win8
[04:20] <Payton> Beldar: For editing :P
[04:20] <Beldar> Payton, you were lying yesterday basically I would not believe a word you say.
[04:20] <Payton> Beldar: Okai
[04:20] <Payton> Beldar: End of convo?
[04:20] <deezed> ah, you want to remove completly your ubuntu from this pc?
[04:20] <Payton> deezed: Yes
[04:21] <deezed> so start your pc from a live cd or usb ubuntu
[04:22] <Payton> deezed: Ok
[04:22] <deezed> and format everything you have on the ubuntu partitions
[04:22] <deezed> which you will never see from windows
[04:22] <Payton> deezed: How would I do that?
[04:23] <al_la> Hey all, looking for help.  I am on 13.04, running upgrade tool for 13.10.  It's completed the steps 'preparing to upgrade' 'setting new software channels' 'getting new packages' and is working on 'installing the upgrades', but in the terminal below it says (after 'setting up ... packages') '... downloading ... flashplugin ..'.  While doing this additional downloading, I believe my internet died, and now that it is back, the window is still s
[04:23] <al_la> itting there.  No way to cancel.  Thoughts?
[04:23] <Payton> al_la: Kill the proccess
[04:23] <Payton> al_la: :P
[04:23] <Payton> argh i forgot the command for killing a process
[04:24] <Payton> it eould probably mess it up though...
[04:24] <Beldar> al_la, move the window around and make sure no popups are there to start with
[04:24] <deezed> Payton: I dont think he has to kill anything
[04:24] <Payton> Beldar Comes to the rescue!
[04:25] <deezed> if Beldar is right
[04:25] <al_la> No pop-up windows hidden behind it.  Window is responsive (not hanged), but the command it's executing seems to have been hanged.
[04:25] <waterloo2005> hi , why localhost:631 always says my printer status is Paused - "Unplugged or turned off" when I plug my usb printer ? thanks
[04:26] <Payton> deezed: How would I format everything on ubuntu so it uninstalls ubuntu on this PC?
[04:26] <deezed> anyway the command to kill the process is killall 'process'
[04:26] <Beldar> al_la, Are you backed up per chance stopping the upgrade portion can be problematic at times.
[04:26] <al_la> I feel like there's a lot of danger in killing the upgrader halfway through an upgrade...
[04:26] <deezed> Payton: you will format from a live cd, not from your ubuntu installed
[04:27] <malt> why does XDCC SEND ppppppppppppp crash my other router on gamesurge person was pming me that on xchat with ubuntu
[04:27] <al_la> Beldar: Yeah, my files are backed up .. it's the installation I'd like to save :(
[04:27] <Payton> deezed: Live CD? I don't have a CD :P
[04:27] <deezed> Payton: and remember to format it on nfts
[04:27] <deezed> Payton: you can use a usb stick
[04:27] <Beldar> al_la, If you stop it run in the terminal sudo apt-get -f install it may finish it.
[04:29] <deezed> al_la: and remember also that maybe it can be running from behind, and killing it might mess somethings up
[04:29] <Beldar> al_la, It may be that it will not restart and you would reboot and run that from a tty or recovery terminal.
[04:30] <al_la> Beldar: the distribution upgrade tool uses apt-get, or do you suggest that only to fix the package it's on now?
[04:30] <Beldar> could rather than would, lets get som other opinions though al_la
[04:30] <deezed> al_la: yes, I would not restart it before set the things up
[04:30] <nicknack> okay, i got mini iso on a usb, and its installing.
[04:30] <nicknack> i was wondering if i can get wpa_supplicant to work
[04:31] <nicknack> the network here is kinda weird
[04:32] <nicknack> anyone?
[04:32] <deezed> al_la: have you managed to close the window?
[04:32] <deezed> nicknack: whats the problem with network?
[04:33] <nicknack> well, i have to install from the net, however, the network here uses wpa-epa or something
[04:33] <nicknack> so i have to use wpa_supplicant.
[04:33] <al_la> deezed: I see no way to close other than killing the process, so stil open
[04:33] <deezed> nicknack: but the net is already running ornot?
[04:33] <al_la> I wonder what a sudo do-release-upgrade from terminal would do...
[04:34] <ccmonster> why wont the gparted stop scanning and actually nshow me something
[04:34] <nicknack> deezed:no there is no network at the moment.
[04:34] <Payton> al_la: Do sudo apt-get update next time :P
[04:34] <al_la> Payton: I was updated and upgraded when I started :/
[04:34] <deezed> al_la: ok, so try it... maybe if you kill it now, and just try to run the same command with apt-get that you used before, just maybe, it will start from the point it has stopped
[04:35] <Payton> deezed: It will skip over the already installed files :P
[04:35] <deezed> al_la: yes, the point is not to update again, 'coz you said it already did, right? you just have to upgrade it again
[04:35] <kcin> Hi
[04:35] <nicknack> is ther ea way that i can use wpa_suppliant to start hte net
[04:36] <Payton> kcin: Hi
[04:36] <deezed> Payton: the only way that windows will read the other partition is formating it
[04:36] <kcin> I'm adding a drive to a vm for nfs mounting but I don't know what the "default" partition type is
[04:36] <Beldar> ccmonster, number of possibilities, what all is on the computer drive wise right now?
[04:36] <deezed> Payton: so if you dont want to loose any data its better to backup
[04:36] <deezed> rsync is a good tool btw
[04:37] <deezed> kcin: which os? ubuntu right?
[04:37] <ccmonster_> Beldar: nothing
[04:37] <ccmonster_> it's the blank ssd, and a blank 2TB hd
[04:38] <al_la> Payton,deezed: giving up for the night I think :) thanks for the info
[04:38] <kcin> ya ubuntu
[04:38] <kcin> though I would hope it applies to most linuxes
[04:39] <Beldar> ccmonster_, A bland ssd and 2 TB, is not nothing, you mentioned a big HD broken is it this one?
[04:39] <Beldar> blank*
[04:39] <Payton> Dang, I need a windows recovery disc..
[04:39] <Payton> D:
[04:39] <Payton> I don't have a CD
[04:39] <deezed> kcin: yes! So if I understood right your question, a default partition to linux would be ext4 or ext3 or ext2
[04:40] <ccmonster_> no the broken one is not connected
[04:40] <deezed> it seems that ext4 is better
[04:40] <Beldar> ccmonster_, Is the ssd and the 2 TB brand new?
[04:40] <kcin> k... know the code off hand?
[04:40] <ccmonster_> they are both a year old, but were in boxes
[04:41] <Mongo44> How do you show everything in the Home folder?
[04:41] <Beldar> ccmonster_, Might not have partition tables, how long has or did gparted run, where are you at as for as running gparted right now?
[04:41] <ccmonster_> there was no partition
[04:42] <Beldar> Mongo44ctrl-h
[04:42] <ccmonster_> figured that wouldn't be a problem
[04:42] <deezed> MobGod: in bash it would be ll, or ls -lah
[04:42] <Beldar> ccmonster_, right but that does not answer my question nor reference partition table.
[04:42] <deezed> or just ls -lh
[04:42] <ccmonster_> its just runing
[04:42] <nicknack> im trying to get wpa_supplicant going, except when i set eap=PEAP it fails
[04:42] <ccmonster_> showing 'scanning all devices' in the status bar on the bottom
[04:43] <nicknack> says its incorrect
[04:43] <deezed> kcin: what?
[04:43] <Beldar> ccmonster_, how long now has it been running?
[04:43] <ccmonster_> this time, about 2 minutes.
[04:43] <ccmonster_> it ran last time for 5+
[04:43] <Payton> Is it possible to remove linux partitions without a recovery disc?
[04:44] <Payton> And uninstall ubuntu
[04:45] <deezed> Payton: would you be mad with me if I give you this advice: dont uninstal linux. Uninstal windows.
[04:45] <Beldar> ccmonster_, I would assume that gparted even on a 2 TB hd, even if it had no partition table finish by now, notice I said assume. If it were me I would stop gparted and close it and unplug the big HD and try again with gparted.
[04:45] <nicknack> any help?
[04:45] <Payton> deezed: Remember, I have two PC's one with ubuntu as a main OS and this one that I want running just win8
[04:46] <ccmonster_> ok, unplugged the big hdd, so now it's just the ssd
[04:46] <deezed> nicknack: but you are trying to start a PEAP connection?
[04:46] <ccmonster_> let's see what happens
[04:46] <nicknack> yes
[04:47] <Blaster> hello I booted from a live CD so I could allocate more space to my /dev/sda1 partition.  I see that I have 13 gigs of unallocated space, but when I go to resize /dev/sda1 the maximum size doesn't include the unallocated space
[04:47] <kcin> well I don't see ext4 in the list under fdisk.... I kinda thought it was ext somthing but I don't see any ext listed
[04:47] <Mongo44> How do you show more in the Home folder?
[04:47] <deezed> yes, Payton, thats what I'm saying. Instead of trying a win8, which is not free and so "spy", you should try another distro on this other machine. like debian, or triskel, which is ubuntu based, or even Parabola, or fedora, I dont know
[04:48] <deezed> Mongo44: open terminal, and digit: ls -lah
[04:48] <deezed> enter
[04:48] <nicknack> deezed: yes i want to start peap. otherwise, the connection wont work
[04:48] <Payton> deezed: I'm using dual boot so I have win8 and ubuntu xD
[04:48] <jerry669> http://hotgirlsinyogapantss.blogspot.com/2013/12/pulling-them-up.html
[04:48] <Payton> deezed: I want this one without ubuntu so I have one PC with ubuntu and one With win8
[04:48] <deezed> nicknack: oh, so you will have to edit your wpa_supplicant script to put your certificate and your right user/pass
[04:49] <nicknack> deezed:it looks likeit looks like there is another connection.
[04:49] <nicknack> idkw hats running
[04:49] <deezed> Payton: lol, so you know what is the price for having just windows 8? formating...
[04:49] <deezed> =/
[04:49] <nicknack> how can i kill any connection in the minimal install
[04:50] <Payton> deezed: How do I format xD
[04:50] <deezed> Payton: I just said: go to a live usb and format with gparted
[04:50] <Beldar> Blaster, open gparted and take a screenshot of it and imagebin it.
[04:51] <nicknack> deezed:the info is correct
[04:51] <nicknack> however, peap seems to not work
[04:51] <Payton> deezed: Uninstalling ubuntu... from ubuntu? ... wut
[04:52] <deezed> nicknack: uhm, I dont know what can it be.. maybe if you pastebin the logs?
[04:52] <Blaster> Beldar: http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=15960
[04:52] <deezed> Payton: yes, kind of
[04:52] <deezed> Payton: did you understand that its not from your own ubuntu? but a live cd
[04:52] <Mongo44> I mean in the My Computer equivalent.
[04:53] <Payton> deezed: I'm confused, I need someone to show me xD
[04:53] <kcin> oh I get it
[04:53] <kcin> ext4 is the format type
[04:53] <Beldar> Blaster, You have an extended sda2 right after sda1, so sda1 can't move without dealing with sda2.
[04:53] <kcin> what's the partition type though... dos?
[04:54] <nicknack> its saying the reaosn it d/c is reason 3
[04:54] <nicknack> usually that means there is another connection, right?
[04:54] <Blaster> Beldar:  Yeah, I read that.  How do I deal with it?
[04:54] <deezed> kcin: yes, ext4..
[04:54] <deezed> Payton: are you kidding?
[04:54] <Payton> deezed: Nope
[04:54] <Payton> deezed: I'm new to partitioning
[04:54] <Beldar> Blaster, You can delete it or move it to the right, did it have a swap in it?
[04:54] <nicknack> unless im doing something wrong, eap=PEAP right?
[04:55] <deezed> Payton: ok, so how did you installed ubuntu?
[04:55] <Blaster> Beldar:  Yes it does, but I don't see any options in GParted for moving it.  It appears locked
[04:55] <deezed> nicknack: actually PEAP means Protected eap
[04:55] <Payton> deezed: I got Beldar To help xD
[04:55] <deezed> I think
[04:55] <kcin> so where does a disk tell you it's format type? lwhw -C disk seems to say only partition type
[04:55] <nicknack> deezed:but why wont it run?
[04:55] <nicknack> it says that eap=PEAP could nt parse or w/e
[04:56] <nicknack> username and id are correct, triple checked
[04:56] <Mongo44> What is the key combo to show more in the file system?
[04:56] <deezed> nicknack: is your certificate right?
[04:56] <Blaster> Beldar: My extended partition says "Busy (At least one logical partition is mounted)"
[04:56] <nicknack> im using the same config as before
[04:56] <nicknack> it worked fine then
[04:56] <Beldar> Blaster, You need to unmount the sda2 right click it right on the edge of then green outline and unmount.
[04:56] <Beldar> the*
[04:56] <deezed> kcin: maybe a fdisk -l
[04:57] <Blaster> Beldar:  It doesn't let me
[04:57] <Blaster> All the right click options are grayed out
[04:57] <kcin> that's the known partition types & what got me confused in the 1st place
[04:57] <kcin> it lists things like hfs & stuff
[04:57] <Blaster> Beldar:  This is a VM inside VBox, that might make a difference
[04:57] <Payton> deezed: Ok lets make this easier
[04:57] <Beldar> Blaster, It looks like there is a swap in there but I see no swap indicated in the left panel, and I know nothing about a vm.
[04:58] <Payton> deezed: Could I make my PC boot up a VirtualBox VM from startup?
[04:58] <Payton> xD
[04:58] <Beldar> er vlm
[04:58] <deezed> Payton: why?
[04:58] <Blaster> Beldar:  I found this article about it http://www.rootusers.com/use-gparted-to-increase-disk-size-of-a-linux-native-partition/
[04:58] <nicknack> failed to parse PEAP
[04:58] <deezed> oh, I got it why.. you installed it from a vm
[04:58] <nicknack> man, im so behind on my final, im royally FAKED
[04:58] <Payton> deezed: So I don't have to use all of my RAM on windows and ubuntu, just ubuntu
[04:59] <deezed> Payton: do you have a free usb to use there?
[04:59] <Payton> deezed: Free USB? you mean a USB with free space?
[04:59] <nicknack> says unknown eap method peap you may need to add support for this eap method during wpa build time ocnfiguration
[05:00] <deezed> Payton: no, I mean usb that you can format
[05:00] <Ben64> nicknack: what are you trying to do
[05:00] <Payton> deezed: I  have no clue..
[05:00] <deezed> Payton: what?
[05:00] <Beldar> Blaster, are you right clicking on either the brownish red inside the sda or on the green box for the unmount, try both.
[05:00] <Payton> deezed: I don't know..
[05:00] <Beldar> sda2*
[05:00] <nicknack> how do i get eap support for wpa_supplicant!?
[05:01] <deezed> Payton: ok, so another way
[05:01] <Blaster> Beldar:  I tried both.  The only enabled options are Swapoff, Manage Flags, and Information.
[05:01] <deezed> Payton: you still have your ubuntu iso right?
[05:01] <somsip> nicknack: I think you had the same error as this? https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=72071
[05:02] <Payton> deezed: Yes, on my USB
[05:02] <nicknack> can someone please just tell me how to get this thing working. please!?
[05:02] <deezed> lol, ok
[05:02] <Ben64> nicknack: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/en/man5/wpa_supplicant.conf.5.html
[05:02] <deezed> so go on Virtual Box, start an ubuntu from there
[05:02] <Payton> deezed: Already loaded
[05:02] <deezed> and see if you can format your ubuntu partition from there
[05:02] <Beldar> Blaster, try the swap off, The strange part is that there should be a swap partiiton notated in the lower list, I see just a extended, and no operations pending.
[05:03] <deezed> which means, open gparted
[05:03] <deezed> or partition manager
[05:03] <nicknack> somsip:i am using password instead of phrase
[05:03] <deezed> (from ubuntu)
[05:03] <Blaster> What does swapoff do?
[05:03] <nicknack> Ben64:my config is correc,t im sure of it but PEAP is not build in support it seems
[05:03] <somsip> nicknack: ok
[05:03] <Blaster> Beldar ^
[05:03] <nicknack> somsip: do you know how to get PEAP support?
[05:04] <Beldar> Blaster, turns the swap off we want to see that key disappear in the list below
[05:04] <osubuntu> Ubuntu release upgrade won't work because of the bleeding edge PPAs, is it correct?
[05:04] <Payton> deezed: No, I want virtualBox to start ubuntu on startup xD and if I want to change back to win8 on start then i can change using f12
[05:04] <Beldar> osubuntu, You need to turn them off and maybe use a ppa-purge to remove to upgrade at times.
[05:04] <Blaster> Beldar: ok yeah it worked, now I have the option to Delete the linux-swap
[05:05] <osubuntu> Is ppa-purge also 3rd party software or in custom PPA?
[05:05] <somsip> nicknack: no, I don't.
[05:05] <Beldar> Blaster, Cool go for it, and leave a space at the end of the sda1 resize for a swap if needed, do the delete and resize in separate runs.
[05:05] <xangua> osubuntu: it will work, but it is recomended not to use third party repositories
[05:05] <nicknack> does anyone know how to get peap support? i cant connect to the net without it
[05:06] <deezed> Payton: sorry, I dont get you. do you want to take ubuntu off or not?
[05:06] <santhosh> haihaihai
[05:06] <Blaster> Beldar:  Not sure what to do from here... http://www.rootusers.com/use-gparted-to-increase-disk-size-of-a-linux-native-partition/
[05:07] <Blaster> Whoops I mean
[05:07] <Blaster> http://imgur.com/k8x9yUD
[05:07] <santhosh> iam installing ltsp on ubuntu but in application server and client get same ip
[05:08] <Beldar> Blaster, delete the extended now for some reason that swap was not showing.
[05:08] <SonikkuAmerica> Blaster: (Hit the check mark up top)
[05:08] <Beldar> Blaster, You have to hit the green arrow to make it run .
[05:09] <Beldar> not arrow but check yeah
[05:09] <Payton> deezed: I did before, not knowing that I need the win8 disc that didn't come with my win8 pc xD
[05:09] <Payton> deezed: Now I want VBox to start up ubuntu on PC startup
[05:09] <nicknack> can someone please tell me how to get peap support for the minmal install of ubuntu. otherwise, i cant install the system, nor, finish this final
[05:10] <Blaster> Beldar: how much space should I leave for the extended partition?
[05:10] <deezed> sorry Payton, I wish I could help you, but given you history I can't anymore.. ask anyone else
[05:10] <SonikkuAmerica> Beldar: ☑ :)
[05:10] <Beldar> Blaster, enough to have a swap equal to the ram you have for the OS.
[05:10] <nick4me> nicknack: What have you tried so far?
[05:11] <Blaster> Beldar: so the swap stores RAM data mostly?
[05:12] <Beldar> Blaster, swap does multiple things, it allows hibernate if equal or slightly larger than the ram amount, and is used when the ram gets to a certain point of use.
[05:12] <Payton> Blaster: Swap is backup RAM, RAM doesn't exactly get used up but if so many processes use up your RAM, your system will go into backup mode or Use Swap.
[05:13] <Blaster> Cool
[05:13] <Payton> RAM=Random access memory
[05:13] <Beldar> Blaster,  I could not give you a definite total use of swap is all, I doubt few here could.
[05:13] <SonikkuAmerica> !swap
[05:13] <Blaster> So here's what I have now ... http://imgur.com/f88mF58  - do I need to allocate the unallocated?
[05:14] <Ben64> xvee: peap is in my ubuntu, what are you running?
[05:14] <Beldar> Blaster, Remove the extended run and just do the resize first.
[05:15] <osubuntu> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade. so this can be solved by ppa-purge ?
[05:15] <Beldar> Blaster, You have to be careful with running multiple things in a row with gparted.
[05:15] <Blaster> oh yeah, why's that?
[05:15] <xvee> guys, please. just help me get this internet up, and i wont bug you. pinkie promise!
[05:15] <Blaster> I will run the grow operation by itself
[05:16] <osubuntu> Alt+SysRq+H does nothing?
[05:16] <osubuntu> it is supposed to show help messages :(
[05:16] <Beldar> Blaster, gparted has a limited measurement of sizes on a hd is all.
[05:16] <Blaster> oh ok
[05:16] <Blaster> so I have this 1GB unallocated.  If I allocate it to an extended drive, it still says unallocated below it
[05:16] <Blaster> do I have to allocate it twice, like it was before?
[05:17] <deezed> bye guys
[05:17] <xvee> can someone please just help me get PEAP to work on the minimal version of ubuntu
[05:18] <Beldar> Blaster, run the resize and be sure you still have 1 gig unallocated. The swap inside of it you make will be smaller, and again may be limited to gparteds abilty to read sizes.
[05:18] <Beldar> Blaster, I'm not sure you need an extended for a swap either
[05:19] <Ben64> xvee: peap is in my ubuntu, what are you running?
[05:19] <Blaster> Beldar:  This is how it originally looked, http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=15960, and this is how it looks now, http://imgur.com/uZVHABq - does it look correct?
[05:19] <xvee> Ben64:im on ubuntu minmal, during the install stage
[05:19] <xvee> however, because my school network requires it, i cant connect to the network
[05:19] <xvee> and with that, cant install anything
[05:20] <Beldar> Blaster, remove the extended making process and resize first do not run both.
[05:20] <Blaster> ok
[05:21] <xvee> Ben64:what can i do to get that booger working
[05:21] <Blaster> do I need a logical drive as a child to my extended partition?
[05:22] <Beldar> Blaster, a logical is what is inside an extended. As far as what can be put on that space as of now you have not exceeded the 3 primaries, needing a extended for more than one additional logicals.
[05:23] <Helasraizam> I have a desktop!  But nothing else.  No icons, no windows--even ctrl+alt+T doesn't bring anything up.  How do I fix Ubuntu 13.10 so that I have a desktop environment?  (my background shows perfectly)
[05:23] <Blaster> Beldar:  Well, it looks like it worked.  Thanks for your help.
[05:24] <xvee> i guess its not possible, then....
[05:25] <Guest93588> How do I find alternative group chats?
[05:25] <xangua> !alis | Guest93588
[05:26] <Intii> Hi all I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my PC but the installer keeps hanging. I've tried the LiveCD version and it hangs on the screen where I can choose to either Try Ubuntu or Install it and the net install version right when it starts detecting disks. How can I fix this?
[05:27] <ObrienDave> Intii, which version are you trying to install?
[05:27] <Intii> net isntall is 13.10 and livecd is 13.04 both 64-bit
[05:27] <Intii> I'm on a Core 2 Duo with 4 GB of ram
[05:30] <Helasraizam> Can someone give me a keyword for me being able to log in and see my desktop, but I can't open any windows/see any icons?  (keyboard & mouse are responsive).  Eg, "desktop environment" or "gnome" or "UIWL, the Ubuntu Icon-Window Layer"--without error messages, I'm having a tough time googling!
[05:31] <Intii> ObrienDave
[05:33] <nick4me> Helasraizam: If you log out and back in, don't restart, are they there?
[05:34] <Helasraizam> no (both with ctrl+alt+F1 [relogin?] and ctrl+alt+bksp [restart x server])
[05:35] <nick4me> Helasraizam: What version are you running?
[05:35] <Helasraizam> 13.10
[05:36] <Beldar> Intii, This a dual boot and if so with what and its release?
[05:36] <Intii> No dual boot, clean HDD
[05:36] <Intii> 13.10 (netinstall) and 13.04 (livecd) Beldar
[05:37] <Beldar> Intii, Have you checked the sum of the iso? Does this HD have any unallocated space, any partitions there now?
[05:37] <Intii> No no partitions
[05:37] <Beldar> Intii, It has a partition table? you check the sum of the iso?
[05:38] <Intii> Beldar: I have checked the sum of the iso
[05:38] <Intii> And there is no partition table
[05:38] <Beldar> Intii, table?
[05:38] <Intii> Beldar, None
[05:39] <Beldar> Intii, Ah, has to have a partition table, not sure on making one from the mini the live would just be gparted.
[05:39] <Intii> Beldar: It has to have a partition table before installing?
[05:39] <nick4me> Helasraizam: Can you check if you have unity-scope-home installed?
[05:39] <ObrienDave> afaik, you need at least a partition table
[05:39] <Beldar> Intii, has to have a table to have partitions
[05:39] <Intii> Beldar: The installer hangs before I can even create partitions
[05:40] <ObrienDave> Intii, because you have no table
[05:40] <Intii> Okay, I can create one with the LiveCD correct? If I go into the Try Ubuntu  mode?
[05:40] <Beldar> Intii, Can't have dinner without a table, so to speak.
[05:40] <ObrienDave> lol
[05:41] <Beldar> Intii, Yeah you can do it with gparted
[05:41] <Beldar> live cd
[05:41] <Intii> I don't know if this matters, but it did have a Window partition before I cleared it and it was still hanging then
[05:41] <Guest93588> Anyone recommed some good Linux Sites?
[05:41] <Helasraizam> nick4me: yes, it's installed
[05:42] <Beldar> Intii, Ah what windows release?
[05:42] <Intii> 7
[05:42] <krz> does ubuntu base come with nouveau or nvidia drivers?
[05:42] <waykool> Studio Xfce v12.04.3 LTS 64 bit installed.. under Power Manager, On AC, Actions, slider "Put computer to sleep when inactive for". what's Xfce's definition of "Sleep"? like Hibernate, Stand by, Hibernate or Suspend, and might it be dangerous on an older computer?
[05:42] <Beldar> Intii, this computer ever have W8 or gpt partitons?
[05:43] <krz> waykool: i think it might be suspend to RAM
[05:43] <Intii> Beldar: Not that I know off. Unless the default Window 7 is gpt partitioned, but I doubt it
[05:43] <Intii> MBR most probabbly
[05:43] <krz> hibernate is really a hit and miss
[05:43] <waykool> ah  ok. ty krz
[05:43] <krz> but dont quote me on that
[05:43] <Beldar> Intii, well lets find out you on the live now?
[05:43] <usr13> waykool: There are two options, suspend and hibernate
[05:43] <krz> this is how it is setup in debian at least
[05:43] <krz> by default
[05:44] <Intii> Beldar: booting into it as we speak
[05:44] <krz> the same may be for archlinux
[05:44] <Beldar> Intii, Cool use this app to run just the create bootinfo summary and paste the url here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[05:45] <waykool> v11.04 i read OS's were steering away from using Hibernate because it was messing up some OEM machines
[05:45] <john_doe_jr> I need to install an old version of mono (2.6.7) onto 12.4 precise….do I compile is all from source…is that my only option to get it installed?
[05:45] <Beldar> Intii, the bootinfo running makes a url for you
[05:45] <Intii> Beldar: Okay give me a sec
[05:45] <Shadow__X> hello, I want to use intel integrated graphics and my amd dedicated gpu on my desktop. Once i install the amd card only the monitor connected to it displays something
[05:45] <Beldar> Intii, no prob I'm just hanging
[05:45] <Shadow__X> if i remove the amd card the intel integrated works fine again
[05:46] <usr13> waykool: If you click on "Log Out" you should see the suspend option.  You can try it and see for yourself if it works.
[05:46] <usr13> waykool: (Works ok on my laptops)
[05:46] <osubuntu> I disabled all custom ppas but it says An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
[05:47] <usr13> osubuntu: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:47] <Beldar> osubuntu, You using any graphic driver ppa's
[05:47] <waykool> ok. rather do it now than mess up when i got 3 TB of valuable client projects piled up.
[05:47] <osubuntu> I only use open-sourced ones
[05:47] <Beldar> osubuntu, xswat?
[05:47] <osubuntu> xswat?
[05:47] <Beldar> osubuntu, ppa's can have open source
[05:48] <osubuntu> i mean
[05:48] <osubuntu> i only use open source drivers
[05:48] <Intii> Beldar: The whole system froze running the app. It's stuck on Scanning systems (os-prober)
[05:49] <aljosa_> how do i get more info then "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade." when using do-release-upgrade?
[05:49] <Beldar> osubuntu, That does not answer the question, look through the ppa's and see if any are for graphic drivers open source has nothing to do with this.
[05:50] <nick4me> Helasraizam: Maybe 3D issues? http://askubuntu.com/questions/384020/fresh-install-of-13-10-left-with-no-dash-nor-apps-only-blank-magenta-wallpap
[05:50] <osubuntu> Beldar, I disabled all custom ppas
[05:50] <Beldar> Intii, Hmm, is this HD in good shape? It may be with no partitions it will not just tell us the partition table.
[05:50] <Intii> Beldar: Yeah it should be...
[05:50] <Intii> It was running Windows 7 fine
[05:50] <Beldar> osubuntu, Yea I know, however you have stuff installed from them, most likely that is the problem.
[05:50] <osubuntu> i never used xswat
[05:50] <waykool> will the next LTS be 14.04 or 15.04?
[05:51] <Ben64> waykool: 14.04
[05:51] <ObrienDave> 14.04
[05:51] <usr13> aljosa_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360293/could-not-calculate-the-upgrade-what-happened
[05:51] <waykool> smiles thank you.
[05:51] <Beldar> osubuntu, We had a user the other day here with ppa's same error, it was a graphic driver ppa that was the problem/
[05:51] <osubuntu> Beldar, i did ppa-purge xorg-edgers / ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[05:52] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone, I am getting this 'Authentication is needed to run /usr/bin/dropbox as the super user'. I have been using dropbox for quite some time now, and it's the first time I'm seeing this message.
[05:52] <Beldar> osubuntu, ppa-purge was used?
[05:52] <Ben64> osubuntu: pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[05:52] <Beldar> osubuntu: run the commands that Ben64 is giving you to.
[05:52] <osubuntu> Ben64, in sudo shell, LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ?
[05:53] <Beldar> Intii,  can you open gparted and take a screenshot and imagebin it.
[05:53] <Ben64> osubuntu: thats not what i said at all...
[05:53] <Intii> Beldar: Yeah gimmie a sec gotta reboot
[05:54] <osubuntu> Ben64, my native language is korean
[05:54] <Ben64> osubuntu: right, but why are you running stuff as root?
[05:54] <osubuntu> sudo -s
[05:54] <Ben64> don't do that
[05:54] <Beldar> bad habit
[05:54] <waykool> ironic.. 14.04 LTS releases the same month Microsoft ends support for windows xp.
[05:55] <osubuntu> Well, this is actually an rare occasion
[05:55] <osubuntu> i usually do sudo apt-get update
[05:55] <osubuntu> well..
[05:55] <Beldar> waykool, gives two reasons to pop the champagne
[05:55] <technickul> waykool: windows needs to end support for xp :P
[05:55] <technickul> waykool: it's time to move on lol
[05:56] <osubuntu> Is it possible to stream stdout to two or more files?
[05:56] <Shadow__X> How can I get intel integrated and amd dedicated gpu to both display? the intel integrated works fine before i installed the amd card
[05:56] <osubuntu> I want one to paste it to pastebin, and one to terminal output
[05:56] <osubuntu> or do i have to copy the terminal window
[05:56] <Beldar> !pastebinit | osubuntu
[05:57] <Beldar> osubuntu, That just sends it to pastebin though
[05:57] <osubuntu> Beldar, i mean, there must be some question wilest doing apt-get
[05:57] <osubuntu> so i have to use --force-yes or yes | command ?
[05:58] <waykool> big problem might occur- Vista win 7 and win 8 are based on XP. any new security vulnerabilities on XP (which most certainly will happen) will likely affect Vista 7 and 8.
[05:58] <Helasraizam> nick4me: Thanks!  My desktop env. choices are only "GNOME" and "Ubuntu (default)".  For whatever reason, I can now see icons--the windows don't have a frame around them (with the close (x)/maximize ([])/minimize (-)) and I still can't start my own windows (eg by double-clicking a folder or ctrl+alt+t).  How would I advance?
[05:58] <Ben64> might be easier to copy+paste terminal osubuntu
[05:58] <osubuntu> okay
[05:58] <Beldar> osubuntu, I don't know them myself, and personally want user to stick with waht is asked myself.
[05:58] <Ben64> waykool: not on topic here, you could ask that in ##windows
[05:58] <osubuntu> but some lines might be cut
[05:59] <osubuntu> Beldar Ben64, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6549555/ is apt-get update
[06:00] <osubuntu> I wonder if the package tree is broken... :(
[06:00] <waykool> very true, not on topic. i don't use MS but guessing many in here might be.
[06:00] <Intii> Beldar: http://imgur.com/r8zoGaj
[06:00] <Beldar> waykool, Any OS is as safe as the user makes it.
[06:01] <waykool> great point Beldar
[06:01] <Diranged> hrmm im running into a problem with openjdk-6-jre on ubuntu 12.04 and log-hostnames..
[06:01] <Diranged> er long
[06:01] <Beldar> Intii, That the gnome only live?
[06:01] <osubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6549555/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6549565/
[06:01] <Diranged> http://pastie.org/8541370
[06:02] <Intii> Beldar: yeah
[06:02] <Diranged> I think I'm seeing a really old bug in java6.. but im wondering whether there is a fix in ubuntu12 somewhere?
[06:02] <Diranged> some updated package..etc
[06:02] <osubuntu> Ben64, Beldar, Sorry for this, can you help me why the distribution upgrade is not working? Here is the apt-get update and upgrade log : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6549555/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6549565/
[06:02] <Goldman60> Afaik Java 6 is no longer supported
[06:02] <Ben64> osubuntu: all looks fine there
[06:03] <osubuntu> yeah
[06:03] <osubuntu> dpkg --configure -a doesn't solve this either
[06:03] <osubuntu> or sudo apt-get -f install
[06:03] <Beldar> Intii, Cool I use the shell, I would make a new table-device-create partition table and choose msdos, then try the install.
[06:03] <nick4me> Helasraizam: Did you change to unity 2d and the icons came back?
[06:04] <Helasraizam> nick4me: I don't have "Unity2d" as a boot option, only Gnome and Ubuntu (default); the icons are back in both
[06:04] <Intii> Beldar: Is it still supposed to say Unallocated after I do that?
[06:04] <osubuntu> Nobody could help me? :(
[06:04] <osubuntu> then ill send there a bug report...
[06:04] <Beldar> Intii, yep
[06:05] <Intii> Beldar: As soon as I choose a language and click Continue the system freezes
[06:06] <Beldar> Intii, Not sure than, this a live on a usb or cd or dvd?
[06:06] <Intii> Beldar: DVD
[06:06] <usr13> osubuntu: So you are wanting to go from 13.04 to 13.10?
[06:06] <osubuntu> yes
[06:07] <osubuntu> raring to saucy
[06:07] <Gerowen> Is there a quick and easy way to configure Grub in 13.10?  I seem to remember there being an old graphical tool that would let you set background images and add menu entries and such.
[06:07] <nick4me> Helasraizam: In the Ubuntu (default), try unity --replace in a terminal
[06:07] <Beldar> Intii, I have seen iso's correct with a sum check and not work, and if burned to fast problems as well, just have to guess somewhat here. I assume the computer is powerful enough and all the hardware works.
[06:07] <usr13> osubuntu: Ok.  I'll give you two pieces of advise, in the form of what I do and do not do.  I do not use backports.  I use LTS only.
[06:07] <osubuntu> LTS i see
[06:08] <osubuntu> LongTermSupport
[06:08] <usr13> osubuntu: Yes
[06:08] <osubuntu> Disable backports. And?
[06:08] <osubuntu> Oh
[06:08] <usr13> stick with LTS
[06:08] <Intii> Beldar: Yeah its got a Core 2 Duo 4GB of ram ran Win7 just fine. I've used this DVD before to install Ubuntu w/o problems
[06:08] <osubuntu> lol
[06:08] <usr13> osubuntu: (I like stuf that works.)
[06:08] <osubuntu> but is it possible to go from one LTS to another LTS in one step?
[06:09] <Beldar> Intii, strange place to freeze is all, not sure really.
[06:09] <usr13> osubuntu: Yes
[06:09] <Guest92281> How do i stop the screen from shutting off during install from a oen drive
[06:09] <Guest92281> Pen*
[06:09] <Intii> Beldar: is there anything else I can do?
[06:09] <osubuntu> do-release-upgrade only upgrades to the version immediately released after current version
[06:09] <osubuntu> 12.04 -> 12.10 is possible but 12.04 -> 13.10 isn't possible in one upgrade
[06:10] <usr13> osubuntu: It depends on if you are set to LTS or not.
[06:10] <Beldar> Intii, I would not rely on this disc working before as empirical data is all, if it were me I would do a new download and try a usb and or reburn the dvd.
[06:10] <osubuntu> ok
[06:10] <osubuntu> It says Err http://security.ubuntu.com sausy-security/main blah blah
[06:10] <Intii> Beldar: I have 3 different discs of Ubuntu...none of them work
[06:10] <Guest92281> It keeps shitting the screen off and i dont know ehy
[06:11] <osubuntu> it fails to load all saucy ppas
[06:11] <osubuntu> in apt update of do-release-upgrade
[06:11] <usr13> osubuntu: What does  grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades  say?
[06:11] <Beldar> Intii, For me this is a knock out the possible variables, you have any usb's?
[06:11] <osubuntu> Wait apt-get is still in progress
[06:11] <Intii> Beldar, none at the moment
[06:11] <ccmonater> Beldar any ideas ?
[06:11] <Beldar> Intii, I would look up installs with this version and that computer as well
[06:12] <usr13> osubuntu: Ok, well, I've given you *my* advise.
[06:12] <osubuntu> okay
[06:12] <Beldar> ccmonater, not really.
[06:13] <ccmonater> Anyone know how to stop tje screen from shutting off durong install
[06:13] <Intii> Beldar, okay I'll continue this tomorrow...getting late. Thanks for all your help !
[06:13] <Beldar> Intii, Might need a kernel tweak or something, I have rarely had a problem, so mainly know these areas.
[06:13] <Intii> noapci?
[06:13] <Intii> Beldar
[06:14] <Beldar> Intii, Not sure since I have not had to do it, could be that or another.
[06:14] <usr13> ccmonater: look at bios settings ...
[06:14] <ccmonater> What bios setting should i look for
[06:14] <Intii> Okay Beldar, I'll try that out. Thanks!
[06:16] <Beldar> Intii, no prob, sorry we could not get it done.
[06:17] <Intii> Beldar, no worries!
[06:17] <Intii> Take care!
[06:17] <Beldar> you ti
[06:17] <Beldar> to*
[06:19] <edmon> Hi, Does anyone know of a good voice or noise activated audio/video recording program?
[06:22] <hFortich> what do you mean by noise/voice activated?
[06:24] <edmon> hFortich: from the microphone, if someone knocks on the door , or ehem, opens the door
[06:24] <ccmonater> Im stuck
[06:25] <raptor67682> Hi
[06:25] <hFortich> you might have better luck using a microcontroller...
[06:25] <raptor67682> would you konw if there is a sort console think to get a word definition from wikipedia into the console.
[06:25] <raptor67682> I mean sthg such as wn --over (wordnet)
[06:26] <raptor67682> but for wikipedia EN/US/UK.
[06:26] <viewer> Hello. I was following the guide for setting up ubuntu with openbox, and I noticed for asks me to install the package "gnome-volume-manager", however this package does not appear to exist in the repositories for me. what do?
[06:26] <ObrienDave> edmon, https://launchpad.net/audio-recorder
[06:27] <ObrienDave> voice/noise capable
[06:27] <ObrienDave> no video
[06:28] <makara> hi. I use Docky, but since some time ago I can't get it to hide properly.
[06:29] <makara> whatever option I choose, autohide, intellihide and window dodge - it just sits there.
[06:30] <edmon> ObrienDave: Thanks, at least I can see if I talk in my sleep
[06:31] <ObrienDave> lol
[06:32] <ObrienDave> edmon, click the timer info button for command help
[06:32] <edmon> ObrienDave: curious, have you ever configured voice activated recording?
[06:32] <ObrienDave> no, i do know what it is though
[06:33] <ObrienDave> brb
[06:38] <ccmonater> Frustrating. Cant install because the monitor shuts off. Anyone have any ideas. Google isnt giving anything
[06:39] <viewer> how do i set up automounting in openbox?
[06:41] <Shadow__X> can someone help me get ubuntu to output to intel hd graphics 4500 (on an intel i5 4570s) and an amd r9 270x at the same time?
[06:42] <Shadow__X> any help would be greatly appreciated
[06:42] <usr13> ccmonater: try bios settings
[06:43] <Guest93588> Whats a good site for daily news on Ubuntu and other distros
[06:43] <Guest93588> like a CNET.com for Linux/Ubuntu
[06:43] <usr13> Guest93588: distrowatch.com
[06:43] <Guest93588> any others?
[06:44] <DWTaylor> omgubuntu.uk
[06:44] <DWTaylor> webupd8.org
[06:44] <DWTaylor> phoronix.com
[06:44] <usr13> Guest93588: http://www.linuxtoday.com/
[06:44] <DWTaylor> lots of good news sites for opensource
[06:44] <Guest93588> THanks for that
[06:45] <usr13> Guest93588: http://lxer.com/
[06:46] <usr13> Guest93588: https://www.google.com/search?q=Linux+news&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[06:47] <usr13> Guest93588: http://opensource.com/tags/open-source-news
[06:50] <Shadow__X> anyone? this is on a desktop it should work. I get a display on the monitor attached to the intel output but it only displays -
[06:54] <Ben64> Shadow__X: you don't want to use the amd at all?
[06:54] <Shadow__X> Ben64: i want to be able to use both honestly
[06:55] <Shadow__X> i am using the amd card for number crunching to rather use the intel
[06:55] <Ben64> i'm not sure, but you'd probably need to set up two x servers
[06:55] <Shadow__X> hmm really? On windows it works without much issue
[06:55] <Shadow__X> but i guess that makes sense as i do get an output right now just nothing more than a -
[06:56] <Shadow__X> Ben64: could i run 1 X and just point it to the intel gpu?
[06:56] <Ben64> yeah
[06:58] <koyetsu> where can i find kernel options and parameters? for 13.10
[06:58] <Shadow__X> Ben64: do you mind explaning how to set that up?
[07:05] <nts7jst4bt1> Water hole
[07:10] <SwedeMike> ml
[07:10] <SwedeMike> oops
[07:15] <koyetsu> how can i see what kernel is installed?
[07:15] <jefftoan> uname -a
[07:16] <koyetsu> thanks
[07:25] <nemesis> hi
[07:25] <cfhowlett> nemesis, greetingts
[07:32] <scALEXtric> hi
[07:50] <jnhghy> Hi, I'm trying to use php with sqlite(using ubuntu 12.04), I have a working apache and php and just did and "sudo apt-get install php5-sqlite" that installed the package and restarted my webserver but I still can't access the sqlite functions, anybody any clue on this?
[07:52] <frojnd> Hi there.
[07:53] <poxor> !random
[07:53] <poxor> wrong channel
[07:53] <poxor> :P
[07:53] <karab44> Guys could you please explain any time when I start gparted I have "Libparted Bug Found!" popup with Could not stat device /dev/mapper//dev/sdb: "sil" and "isw" formats discovered (using isw)! - No such file or directory.
[07:53] <karab44> what could be the reason of such warning
[07:55] <frojnd> I have an interesting problem. Somehow my home addrss is in /etc/hosts.deny even if I remove this entry it keeps poping up. So I can't ssh to ubuntu. The machine has ufw firewall running.  In /etc/hosts.deny there is no ALL:ALL:DENY entry.. why my ip keeps poping up in /etc/hosts.deny?
[07:55] <causative> I want to install updates (12.04), which I haven't done in a while.  However when I try, it says "requires installation of packages from untrusted sources" and lists a large number of packages.  Is there any way to get a list of which _sources_ are untrusted, rather than which packages?
[07:57] <lkthomas> interesting that if I play youtube on firefox, my soft phone wouldn't work on sound
[07:59] <impradeepy> causative: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:59] <geextee> hi. I saw one desktop feature in linuxmint cinnamon. When you move window to the corner of the screen it automatically takes 1/4 size of the screen. So you can place 4 windows quickly on the screen side by side
[07:59] <geextee> does unity have this?
[07:59] <causative> impradeepy, http://pastie.org/8541494
[08:00] <impradeepy> causative:http://askubuntu.com/questions/140246/how-do-i-resolve-unmet-dependencies
[08:02] <causative> it doesn't say there are unmet dependencies it says there are unauthenticated sources
[08:03] <impradeepy> causative:sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade --allow-unauthenticated
[08:03] <causative> but is that wise to allow unauthenticated... wouldn't it be better to find out what the unauthenticated sources are, and authenticate them?
[08:04] <Beldar> causative, You pasted a update upgrade yet?
[08:04] <ObrienDave> it can't d/l from sources you have not allowed before. probably expired keys
[08:04] <impradeepy> causative:open software sources see yourself
[08:05] <impradeepy> causative:may be expired ppa or you are trying to update ppa which are currently not in use
[08:05] <ObrienDave> like medibuntu etc.
[08:07] <TheCusp> can anyone walk me through booting ubuntu through virtual box
[08:08] <aeon-ltd> TheCusp: start the vm?
[08:08] <Beldar> causative, at the least you have a intrepid repo open.
[08:08] <impradeepy> causative:or may be you have entered new pps incorrectly
[08:08] <causative> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade seems to be working
[08:08] <TheCusp> already did
[08:09] <aeon-ltd> TheCusp: if it installed properly it should just boot like a pc, but with no bios or post screens
[08:09] <causative> what is a ppa/pps?
[08:09] <TheCusp> i dont know how to mount.  I've only ever used windows so this process is completely new to me
[08:09] <impradeepy> sorry spel misktake only pa
[08:09] <impradeepy> ppa
[08:10] <Beldar> TheCusp, Live or install either should boot.
[08:10] <causative> I would find out myself but I'm having problems connecting to the web because I'm downloading updates
[08:11] <djdes2> before i get sent to #irssi, I have a screen + irssi question.  I use a shell/screen to use irc. is there a way to libnotify me when my tty client sees a certain string to libnotify me?
[08:12] <cfhowlett> TheCusp, mount?  is this first boot?
[08:12] <TheCusp> im so confused
[08:12] <TheCusp> yes
[08:12] <impradeepy> causative:ppa-personal packages archives for more detail  please visit http://askubuntu.com/questions/4983/what-are-ppas-and-how-do-i-use-them
[08:12] <cfhowlett> TheCusp, change the settings so that this time, it boots from the hard driver, not the ISO.  start the vm.
[08:13] <Shadow__X> Ben64: Hey, is there a way to get X to default to the intel gpu instead of the amd one? then i wouldnt need another X
[08:13] <causative> ty
[08:14] <TheCusp> cfhowlett: I keep getting FATAL: No bootable medium found
[08:14] <jinppk> hi, i am using 13.10 on my  laptop, and i installed kubuntu-desktop to try it but now i am having difficulty removning it without breaking everything. It seems that when lightdm-kde-greeter is removed, x doesnt start on boot. i can still to ctrl alt f1 and reinstall it and reboot. any ideas why this is, or what i can do about it/
[08:14] <jinppk> ?
[08:16] <djdes2> what are the ruls
[08:17] <djdes2> !help
[08:18] <djdes2> !givez absolutely no fucks
[08:18] <djdes2> !kthxbi
[08:23] <cfhowlett> jinppk, how did you remove kubuntu-desktop?
[08:24] <jinppk> i apt-get removed most of the "kde" sounding packages in the list of what it installed when i installed it in the first place that i got from the apt log files
[08:25] <jinppk> i then reinstalled the lightdm-kde-greeter after some trial and error and worked it (or its deps) were needed...
[08:25] <cfhowlett> jinppk, that should not have effected x.  try this.  sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop
[08:26] <jinppk> Package 'kubuntu-desktop' is not installed, so not removed
[08:26] <jinppk> should i re install it them purge?
[08:26] <jinppk> then*
[08:27] <cfhowlett> jinppk, nope.  gone is gone.  resintalled the lightdm-kde-greeter should fix.  reboot to test
[08:28] <jinppk> its currently installed and boots ok
[08:28] <jinppk> but it wasnt installed befor i installed kubuntu-desktop which is a dep of.
[08:29] <cfhowlett> jinppk, ah, I see.  so lightdm-kde is running not the default ubuntu-lightdm?
[08:29] <jinppk> To be honest im not sure what lightdm is so i dont know
[08:30] <jinppk> oh
[08:30] <cfhowlett> jinppk, it's the purdy picturz and lightz when you start your buntu
[08:30] <jinppk> when it boots up the login screen is not the original ubuntu one, sometimes it is the kde one and  sometimes it is just white
[08:31] <jinppk> Yep. so that must be the issue.
[08:31] <cfhowlett> jinppk, right.  there's a way to reset it back, but you have to do it manually.  search for "set default lightdm" or similar terms
[08:31] <jinppk> how do i get rid of the KDE one and get the Ubuntu(unity?) one back
[08:32] <jinppk> ok thanks
[08:35] <Beldar> jinppk, what release?
[08:35] <jinppk> 13.10
[08:35] <jinppk> im trying dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[08:35] <jinppk> after remocing the kde greeter
[08:36] <makara> hi. I use Docky, but since some time ago I can't get it to hide properly.
[08:36] <makara> whatever option I choose, autohide, intellihide and window dodge - it just sits there.
[08:36] <Beldar> jinppk, Ah, well there is a website that has whole package lists for removal, but only up to 13.04 at this time. In the future when you install a desktop save a list of the packages installed.
[08:38] <jinppk> haha yes
[08:38] <jinppk> i shoudl have, i figured it would log it
[08:39] <jinppk> and i took the list from there
[08:39] <jinppk> but i think the issue is some config stuff
[08:39] <jinppk> Im going to try and reboot, so dont send me any msgs!
[08:40] <eraggo> weirdly noticied that i were in overflow channel
[08:40] <eraggo> oops
[08:40] <Beldar> eraggo, never been there, is it like purgatory?
[08:40] <eraggo> wrong channel :D
[08:41] <MangaKaDenza> test
[08:41] <MangaKaDenza> vvut
[08:41] <MangaKaDenza> !return
[08:42] <MangaKaDenza> ahhh
[08:42] <MangaKaDenza> just checking , leaving now
[08:49] <Mutex>  Hey guys
[08:49] <jinppk> So, i tired removing the kde-greeter and reconfigureing lightdm but no good, same problem
[08:49] <Mutex> I did a bit of an oopsie
[08:50] <klrr_> is there a easy way to simply stop a daemon in ubuntu?
[08:50] <Mutex> I ran the Nvidia driver from their website (the installer, I closed x server before running)
[08:50] <klrr_> from commandline?
[08:50] <Mutex> Since nouveau doesn't work
[08:50] <Ben64> Mutex: you shouldn't install it that way
[08:50] <Mutex> Anyway, now I have a black screen after I login with only the cursor on it.
[08:50] <Mutex> Any hints as to how I can remove the driver?
[08:51] <Ben64> the installer should have an uninstaller
[08:51] <Ben64> but just curious, which card do you have?
[08:51] <lvleph> for some reason I can ping 127.0.0.1 but not localhost. My host file does indeed contain 127.0.0.1 localhost. Not sure how to fix this.
[08:51] <Mutex> 740M
[08:51] <klrr_> is there a easy way to simply stop a daemon in ubuntu?
[08:51] <klrr_> from commandline?
[08:52] <lvleph> klrr_, service <daemon name> stop
[08:52] <klrr_> ty ty
[08:52] <lvleph> as long as it is a service
[08:52] <lvleph> otherwise maybe killall
[08:52] <Ben64> Mutex: do you have a dual gpu setup?
[08:53] <klrr_> lvleph: thanks!
[08:53] <Ben64> lvleph: what does "host localhost" say?
[08:53] <lvleph> Ben64, command not found
[08:53] <Ben64> really? you don't have the command "host" ??????
[08:55] <Mutex> Ben64: I have an intel integrated card and 1 740M.
[08:55] <Mutex> I just finished the uninstall
[08:55] <Mutex> This better work or I'm installing lubuntu
[08:55] <lvleph> Mutex, what is the problem that you are having?
[08:55] <Mutex> Not that that will fix my graphics problems
[08:55] <Ben64> Mutex: you should look into "bumblebee"
[08:55] <Mutex> Can't get Nvidia graphics to work
[08:55] <Ben64> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[08:56] <Ben64> the problem is the dual gpus, not the nvidia
[08:56] <Mutex> Isn't that for opteron devices though?
[08:56] <Ben64> optimus. = dual gpu nvidia/intel
[08:56] <lvleph> My nvidia graphics wouldn't work because the driver wouldn't support efi boot, Mutex
[08:57] <lvleph> Once I figured out how to boot into a bios mode then things worked.
[08:57] <Mutex> Oh I use EFI
[08:57] <lvleph> What type of computer?
[08:57] <Mutex> well looks like im fucked I uninstalled the driver and same problem
[08:57] <Mutex> Lenovo ThinkPad E531
[08:57] <jinppk> Beldar cfhowlett, iv discovered that when i remove the KDE greeter, and reboot i get these lines in my /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log: [+0.00s] DEBUG: Seat: Failed to find session configuration
[08:57] <jinppk> [+0.00s] DEBUG: Seat: Failed to create greeter session
[08:58] <Mutex> Anyone have any tips as to how I can at least get X working again?
[08:58] <Beldar> !language| Mutex
[08:58] <lvleph> You can switch to bios mode some how, but I don't know the specifics of that comp. Also, it may not be the problem. Mine was because the API for my EFI was too old.
[08:58] <osubuntu> X.org x server
[08:58] <Mutex> Sorry :/
[08:58] <lvleph> Mutex, there should be a backup of xorg.conf
[08:58] <Ben64> there shouldn't be an xorg.conf
[08:58] <Mutex> There's none in /etc/X11
[08:59] <Mutex> Looks like reinstall is the only option, right?
[08:59] <osubuntu> Xorg -configure is not recommended
[08:59] <osubuntu> View xorg.log
[09:01] <Mutex> Why does the login screen render fine but nothing else works?
[09:01] <Shadow__X> Mutex: do you see a background?
[09:01] <Shadow__X> Mutex: after you log in that is
[09:02] <Mutex> I see black, and a cursor once I login.
[09:02] <osubuntu> Does it stay in black screen with a cursor
[09:03] <osubuntu> I once have experienced that problem but patience seemed to solve that
[09:03] <Shadow__X> osubuntu: leaving it like that?
[09:03] <osubuntu> Before that
[09:03] <impradeepy> jinppk:cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf paste its outputi think its still using force kde greeter
[09:03] <Mutex> Yes, it stays.
[09:03] <lar4> Hi. there's a bug in alsa on asus boards. i managed to google a patch to fix it but the patch asks which file to patch and I don't know what to input, anyone can please help?
[09:05] <jinppk> impradeepy, the user session is set to ubuntu, and the greeter session is lightdm-kde-greeter. However i reinstaled it to get x to start again, i suppose i should remove it and reboot then check? what should it be set to?
[09:05] <osubuntu> View /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:06] <Rory> lar4: The patch is probably applied to the source code to the driver, and then you compile the patched version. Could you link to the instructions so someone can help you?
[09:06] <impradeepy> jinppk:greeter-session=dafault.desktop
[09:06] <impradeepy> jinppk:greeter-session=default.desktop
[09:06] <lar4> impradeepy, https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound.git/commit/?id=ae24c3191ba2ab03ec6b4be323e730e00404b4b6&id2=5c0ee9497b33cde3e57460efe4f73313dc0b57a3
[09:06] <lar4> err, Rory
[09:07] <Rory> short url http://rory.sh:41443/2S8
[09:07] <airtonix> jinppk: did you at any point attempt to do : sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm ?
[09:07] <jinppk> impradeep, yep that looks like the problem when i removed lightdm-kde-greeter it leaves it as greetersession=
[09:07] <jinppk> airtonix, yes i did
[09:07] <jinppk> no effect
[09:07] <airtonix> jinppk: did you make sure lightdm is installed?
[09:07] <Rory> lar4: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[09:07] <jinppk> airtonix, yes it is
[09:07] <airtonix> jinppk: sudo apt-get install lightdm --reinstall
[09:07] <lar4> 12.04
[09:08] <Rory> lar4: There is probably a better way than patching your kernel! Is upgrading to 13.04 an option?
[09:08] <Rory> lar4: Or, could you describe your issue and we can see if there's another way
[09:08] <airtonix> jinppk: and the reconfigure didn't ask you to choose a login manager?
[09:08] <impradeepy> jinppk:did you set greeter-session =default.desktop?do one reboot
[09:09] <impradeepy> jinppk:during login select ubuntu as default
[09:09] <jinppk> airtonix, when i reconfigure there is no output, when i did reinstall there was simmilarly nothing of note and it still didnt fix the lightdmconfig
[09:09] <jinppk> impradeep, copy that
[09:09] <jinppk> brb
[09:09] <jinppk> exit
[09:09] <jinppk> oops
[09:09] <lar4> Rory, i have crackling sounds with spdif output. There are manual fixes but I haven't managed to do them
[09:09] <impradeepy> jinppk:ok
[09:11] <lar4> Ubuntu 13.04 has no shell?!
[09:14] <ResQue> i have a fat32 partition mounted in ubuntu and it shows no folder /boot/efi but if i look at the same partion with an efi shell, it shows the dir is there whats going on?
[09:14] <zuppy> impradeepy, this is jinppk, still no luck. in the lightdm log it says failed to find session configuration default.desktop
[09:15] <Rory> lar4: What do you mean?
[09:15] <impradeepy> zuppy: after reinstalling lightdm did you also reinstall unity? if yes then greeter-session=unity-greeter and user session=ubuntu
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> lar4: the default Gnome based Ubuntu used Unity shell.
[09:15] <zuppy> impardeepy, i never removed unity
[09:15] <ResQue> the folder is also there when i look at the file system with the grub shell, but when i am booted in to ubuntu the folder is no there, any idea what is going on. its a fat32 partion
[09:15] <lar4> ActionParsnip, I don't want unity, I want to keep everything as in 12.04..
[09:16] <impradeepy> zuppy:then do one change greeter-session=unity-greeter
[09:16] <Rory> lar4: You could perhaps install a backported kernel...
[09:16] <zuppy> impradeepy, haha already trying, rebooting now
[09:17] <zuppy> impardeepy, bingo!!! Thanks very much, is this a bug that removing one greeter does not ensure that another greeter is set? should i file a report?
[09:17] <zuppy> it certainly doesnt seem like expected behaviour
[09:17] <Xat`> I'm having an issue with a fresh 12.04.3 LTS installation when installing openjdk-6-jre from aptitude
[09:17] <Rory> Xat`: If you're getting errors, please put them on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> lar4: the default shell in 12.04 is also Unity
[09:18] <impradeepy> zuppy:enjoy :),glad to help you cheers:)
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> lar4: you can install gnome-panel and log off, then log into the new session on the login screen and get the old gnome-panel style session (with some weird quirks)
[09:18] <Xat`> Rory: I resolved it but this is very strange
[09:18] <lar4> ActionParsnip, ok, but will it fix the bug?..
[09:18] <Xat`> I can't reproduce it
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> lar4: what is the bug?
[09:18] <Rory> Xat`: What do you remember?
[09:18] <lar4> ActionParsnip, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/359361
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> lar4: how will changing the shell you use fix sound?
[09:19] <lar4> ActionParsnip, it won't but someone suggested upgrading to 13.04
[09:20] <Xat`> Rory:  when I tried to install openjdk-6-jre it stopped and said some dependancies cannot be resolved (speaking about metapackage)
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> lar4: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[09:20] <Rory> Xat`: And how did you resolve it?
[09:20] <Xat`> then I installed the package name into this metapackage, then aptitude install openjdk-6-jre again
[09:20] <Xat`> and it works
[09:20] <Rory> Xat`: That's usually when you haven't run an "apt-get update" first
[09:21] <Xat`> Rory: I run aptitude update instead
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> Xat`: its doesnt handle multi-arch, so apt-get is good if you use 64bit
[09:22] <Xat`> aptitude doesn't handle multiarch ?
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> !aptitude
[09:22] <Xat`> whereas apt does
[09:22] <Xat`> ?
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> Xat`: yes, unless they fixed the bug
[09:22] <Xat`> alright
[09:23] <Xat`> ok ok thanks
[09:23] <Mutex> I had a look at the X server log
[09:26] <Mutex> Okay I restarted lightdm and now it's still black with white cursor
[09:26] <Mutex> So the recommendation was to wait it out?
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> lar4: did you run the large command here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> lar4: in step 4?
[09:29] <lar4> running..
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> lar4: why have you not ran that already? Surely that page would be the FIRST page you hit when you were trying to resolve sound issues in Ubuntu
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> lar4: seriously?
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> lar4: reboot after it has ran, then test
[09:31] <lar4> ActionParsnip, ok, but the bug report I linked you to suggests it happens with every Asus mb
[09:31] <lar4> in Linux
[09:32] <lar4> So I fail to see how updating a reported but unpatched bug will help
[09:39] <Mutex> It's still black ;(
[09:40] <Mutex> So my only option is to reinstall Ubuntu or another distro, right?
[09:40] <impradeepy> mutex:whats the issue?
[09:41] <Mutex> I installed/uninstalled Nvidia proprietary drivers (nouveau doesn't identify my chip)
[09:41] <Mutex> and now x is broken
[09:41] <Jpmh> .
[09:42] <Mutex> I get to the login screen, login, and its a black background with a white cursor
[09:42] <lar4> ActionParsnip, it's working, ty
[09:42] <Mutex> Which is movable.
[09:42] <impradeepy> mutex:show me the output of  cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[09:42] <Mutex> I can get into tty0 or whatever the virtual console is called
[09:43] <Mutex> File doesn't exist
[09:43] <Mutex> There is a lightdm.conf.d and users.conf though
[09:43] <Rory> Mutex: Can you press ctrl-alt-f1 and log in with your normal username and password?
[09:44] <Mutex> Already in there :)
[09:44] <Rory> Mutex: Can you run the 4 commands at the end of the top answer here http://askubuntu.com/questions/206283/how-can-i-uninstall-a-nvidia-driver-completely
[09:45] <impradeepy> mutex:show me the output of  cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[09:45] <Rory> Mutex: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-* && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop && sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak && echo nouveau | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> lar4: magic stuff huh
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> lar4: thats why that page exists
[09:46] <lar4> ActionParsnip, I googled the symptoms and found the bug fix that's why i tried it
[09:47] <Mutex> Im on it, thank you so much :)
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> lar4: try:   ubuntu fix sound      and look what pops up
[09:48] <Mutex> Ran all that.
[09:49] <Mutex> Rebooting
[09:49] <Mutex> Btw the xorg conf didn't exist
[09:49] <lar4> lol
[09:49] <lar4> usually ubuntu works well...
[09:50] <Mutex> Okay same problem
[09:50] <lar4> the only thing i haven't managed to fix was using dual displays whichi aren't of the same resolution
[09:50] <lar4> bye
[09:50] <Mutex> I do have a window but with no borders
[09:50] <Mutex> System program problem detected
[09:51] <Mutex> And still black ;(
[09:51] <Mutex> Wait
[09:51] <Mutex> Yayyy
[09:51] <Mutex> I love you all
[09:51] <Mutex> It works.
[09:51] <FloodBot1> Mutex: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:51] <saleniex> hi!
[09:52] <Mutex> Sorry mr flood that was very immature of me.
[09:53] <saleniex> I have a problem with reboot while NFS is mounted - reboot hangs on sync. When I unmount NFT disk first and then reboot all works fine. Any ideas?
[09:54] <infolinux> Hi All, Anybody here have experience with iozone and testing NFS?
[09:55] <Siya> good morning all
[09:55] <Siya> I have a 128MB CF card, freshly formatted (FAT32). After I copy 13 files to it it says it's full
[09:56] <Siya> df -h says it's only 9% used
[09:56] <Siya> any ideas?
[09:56] <saleniex> Siya: depends on size of files
[09:58] <Rakholl> Hello, I'm getting periodic upload activity on my network history, and it's clogging up my connection. I have tried netstat -e -e -p to figure out the PID of the process with no luck so far.
[09:58] <RichardRamirez> Hi.
[09:59] <RichardRamirez> Is it possible to dual-boot two linux distros on one USB?
[09:59] <Rakholl> I think my machine is causing some trouble, any advice would be appreciated. The destinations of the upload activity are not consistent.
[10:00] <Siya> RichardRamirez: should be fine, just partition the USB storage device and treat it like a normal disk (grub etc)
[10:00] <RichardRamirez> http://www.circuidipity.com/multi-boot-usb.html
[10:03] <RichardRamirez> Siya, I am having a problem.
[10:03] <RichardRamirez> I am trying to install GRUB on a USB drive, but it gives me this error: http://pastie.org/private/i7zf8n0czhqni4pzc3ygiw (note that I use Ubuntu 12.04 with encryption)
[10:07] <Beldar> RichardRamirez, this ISO's?
[10:07] <RichardRamirez> what?
[10:07] <Beldar> RichardRamirez, full install of the OS or an iso?
[10:07] <RichardRamirez> ISO.
[10:08] <Beldar> RichardRamirez, persistent?
[10:08] <RichardRamirez> yes.
[10:08] <Beldar> RichardRamirez, You know the limitations of a persistent they do fill up and are not really cleanable
[10:09] <RichardRamirez> I just want to dual-boot two linux distros on one USB.
[10:09] <Beldar> RichardRamirez, You can I use the multisystem loader you can find at pendrivelinux.
[10:10] <Beldar> RichardRamirez, ou can fill up the usb with as many that will fit.
[10:10] <Beldar> you*
[10:11] <Beldar> RichardRamirez, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[10:13] <Wiz_KeeD> Made my post Beldar :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2192875&p=12869997#post12869997
[10:13] <Wiz_KeeD> hi
[10:13] <Beldar> RichardRamirez, IT is basically the same as your multiboot link without having to build it.
[10:15] <Wiz_KeeD> that was unsavoury
[10:17] <nictrasavios> Hello, I was wondering what the best 3D CAD program on Ubuntu is for someone who is experienced in SolidWorks and SolidEdge?
[10:20] <residentmoron> FreeCAD looks pretty good, but, no personal experience
[10:21] <Beldar> nictrasavios, best is a subjective, and really yours.
[10:23] <nictrasavios> Beldar: I was expecting a reply like that... so I'll rephrase, in your opinion, what is the 3D CAD modelling software that most closely replicates the interface and capabilities of either/or both of SolidWorks and SolidEdge.
[10:24] <ObrienDave> imo, nothing comes close to SolidWorks
[10:25] <residentmoron> exit
[10:25] <nictrasavios> ObrienDave, I'm starting to get the impression from my research. Maybe I'll mess around with Vmware and Wine. I've got a AW Aurora, so I have enough power to VM it.
[10:28] <ObrienDave> Never could get SolidWorks to run under Wine. gave up trying :/
[10:28] <JesseH> I'm using lubuntu, but perhaps someone will know. How do I minimize a fullscreen game?
[10:29] <JesseH> (uses sdl)
[10:29] <nictrasavios> ObrienDave, Yeah, I'm seeing its listed as garbage. I've got iTunes on Vmware unity, I'll have to see if SW can handle being VM-ed.
[10:30] <ObrienDave> nictrasavios, let me know if you do. good luck ;)
[10:32] <nictrasavios> I'll have to see if I can script VMware Workstation to start on boot in unity mode.
[10:33] <sazawal> I forgot my irc password, how can I recover it? (I know this is off-topic, but I don't know where else to ask)
[10:33] <fishcooker> i've install fail2ban.. the log said that the unban but i stil cant login.. i think the iptables don't accept my connection
[10:33] <ubuntu> k
[10:33] <Beldar> sazawal, ##freenode will send it to your registered email
[10:33] <cfhowlett> sazawal, or make  a new one
[10:33] <sazawal> Beldar, whom to ask in that room?
[10:34] <Rory> JesseH: That's application-specific, sadly
[10:34] <Beldar> sazawal, just ask
[10:34] <Beldar> it's all mods
[10:34] <KeyboardFail> My keyboard and mouse do not work when i boot ubunut, it stops working at the GDM login screen, and it also fails to work if i do a kernal recovery boot boot. it works if i boot from the ubuntu live cd though. I have no idea how to fix this can someone please help
[10:34] <sazawal> Beldar, ok thanks
[10:35] <Beldar> KeyboardFail, Has it always been this way?
[10:35] <KeyboardFail> Beldar: no, this install has been working fine for days.
[10:35] <Beldar> KeyboardFail, So any links as to why the change?
[10:35] <Rory> KeyboardFail: Does it work if you select an older kernel version from the Grub boot menu?
[10:36] <Danato> are all i5 processors 64bit compatible?
[10:36] <Rory> Danato: Yes
[10:36] <KeyboardFail> Rory: i did not try that, i can reboot now and check
[10:36] <Danato> Rory: thanks
[10:36] <tovarish> hi, if i do "ls" and "env -i ls" ls doesn't use the same order
[10:36] <KeyboardFail> Beldar: i did update the grub config file early today, i changed the gfxmode to 1440x900x32, before it was not set
[10:37] <nictrasavios> Danato, If they are 3rd gen or above.
[10:37] <tovarish> I failed to found wich env variable mess with ls
[10:37] <tovarish> does someone know which env variable I should remove to have the same order than "env -i ls"?
[10:37] <KeyboardFail> Beldar: i also had a look in the xorg log and there does not seem to be any errors, in fact i can clearly see it find both the keyboard and track pad mouse
[10:38] <Danato> nictrasavios: so does that mean that not every single i5 is 64bit compatible? or does it mean that i5 are all 3rd gen or above?
[10:39] <KeyboardFail> also the computer does not crash at the GDM login screen, i can see the cursor blinking, and i can use the power button to do a normal shutdown. it just seems as though GDM or xorg isnt getting any input
[10:39] <nictrasavios> Danato, If you get a really old i5, it may not be. But if its a computer made since the sandy-bridge gen came out, your safe. (Which is every computer on the market today).
[10:39] <jpentland> Hey. Can anyone recommend a good desktop environment for multi monitor? When I plug in/unplug my monitor in Unity my  windows go all over the place and it takes me a long time to find them all again.
[10:39] <Danato> nictrasavios: thanks for that
[10:39] <Beldar> KeyboardFail, I would check the kernel as suggested, generally you change grub in /etc/default/grub not sure of what you did as a cause, you can chroot from a live cd though and fix that if needed.
[10:40] <nictrasavios> Danato, Actually, some i5's are 4th gen haswells now. Watch out for that. In general, i5 4th gen > i5 3rd gen.
[10:40] <Rory> tovarish: What's the output of "type ls"
[10:40] <KeyboardFail> Beldar: ok, i will use the live cd and reset the grub config back to the default and i will also try another kernel. thanks
[10:40] <tovarish> Rory, ls is aliased to `ls --color=auto -F'
[10:40] <KeyboardFail> Rory: going to try your kernel idea now, thanks
[10:41] <Rory> tovarish: if you run \ls instead of ls, do you get the same as env -i ls ?
[10:41] <tovarish> Rory, nope it change nothing (I have unalias ls temporary)
[10:42] <Rory> tovarish: that's what \ls does, btw, it bypasses the alias
[10:42] <tovarish> I know
[10:42] <tovarish> today I have to alias ls with env -i ls to have a correct sort order
[10:42] <tovarish> but I really want to understand what broke my ls
[10:43] <Rory> tovarish: can you show me the output of "printenv"
[10:43] <Rory> Please paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel
[10:43] <nictrasavios> jpentland, I personally have three monitors and prefer cinnamon since unity makes all three monitors look asymmetric, but I have no experience in unplugging and plugging in frequently, I just know that it seems to handle them better. (No mouse stick or awkward workspace bugs).
[10:44] <Rory> nictrasavios: You can disable sticky edges in screen options btw
[10:44] <nictrasavios> Rory, But then I miss the launcher.
[10:44] <Rory> nictrasavios: perhaps KDE?
[10:44] <jpentland> nictrasavios, hmm ok. I have a laptop with a large monitor so unplugging is the main use-case. I also have 8 workspaces which kind of amplifies the problem.
[10:45] <nictrasavios> Rory, Cinnamon works best, without all the bloat.
[10:45] <tovarish> Rory, http://lpaste.net/96816
[10:45] <nictrasavios> jpentland, Hmm, well if nobody else has an answer then I'd say try cinnamon. But someone else may know better.
[10:45] <Rory> tovarish: Could you show me an example of differing output from "ls" and "env -i ls" ?
[10:47] <tovarish> Rory, http://lpaste.net/96817
[10:49] <Rory> tovarish: I think it's the XTERM_LOCALE=en_US.UTF-8
[10:49] <Rory> tovarish: That's what's causing Z to come "before" a
[10:50] <KeyboardError> Rory: i fixed the keyboard error, i used the live cd to reinstall grub, and create a new grub config file and now the keyboard and mouse both work fine on the GDM login screen
[10:50] <Rory> !yay
[10:50] <nictrasavios> KeyboardError, YAY!
[10:50] <KeyboardError> Rory: i can not remember the name of the other chap who helped me, do u remember his name
[10:50] <KeyboardError> nictrasavios: :-D
[10:50] <Rory> !cookie | Beldar
[10:50] <nictrasavios> !yay | KeyboardError
[10:51] <nictrasavios> Ha, I didn't know that those commands existed.
[10:51] <Rory> !ubottu | nictrasavios
[10:51] <KeyboardError> Beldar: thanks for the help, i reinstalled grub and created a new config file, this fixed the keyboard error i was having.
[10:51] <Beldar> KeyboardError, cool.
[10:51] <nictrasavios> Rory, Merci!
[10:53] <adema_>  v v
[10:53] <KeyboardError> Beldar: i think the error may have something todo with i moved the (hd0,gpt4)/boot to (hd0,gpt1)/ and didnt update fstab, its a long shot but grub-install and grub-mkconfig did something and running them agian fixed it. thanks again
[10:53] <nictrasavios> If I can open and work on SegFault in SolidWorks VM without my computer becoming a lethargic sloth...  then I dub thee success.
[10:56]  * cfhowlett thinks "Lethargic Sloth" is a GREAT distro name!
[10:58] <NuSuey> I can't see the internal GPU HDMI output in 12.04, http://i.imgur.com/zpgLwpt.png .. got one Monitor in the DP, the other in the DVI .. and the HDMI is in the internal GPU on the mainboard ..http://i.imgur.com/H17DBa7.png (5) I see the splash-screen (or verbose if I enabled it) on the HMDI - but the system detects only the monitors on the primary GPU
[10:59] <NuSuey> any idea?
[10:59] <Rory> NuSuey: What's the output of the command "lspci | grep VGA" ?
[10:59] <NuSuey> Rory: oh sorry I'm not at home right now :/ at work atm
[11:00] <tovarish> Rory, ho yes, you're right
[11:00] <tovarish> that's very strange that the universal locale change ls behavior
[11:00] <Siya> saleniex: files are very small, I'm talking about 226 files totalling 12.4MB. I should not have any issue putting those on a 128MB CF card
[11:00] <tovarish> but thank you very much for your help
[11:00] <Rory> tovarish: np, hope you can use that information somehow
[11:00] <tovarish> I will
[11:01] <Rory> tovarish: perhaps alias ls to LANG=C ls --colors=auto -F
[11:01] <NuSuey> Rory: guess you can't help me without the output
[11:02] <nictrasavios> Off topic, but does anybody know where I can get a monitor mount that can handle 3 27", and hang down from the ceiling like one of those dentist arms? I may build one of those.
[11:02] <tollopwollop_> holland is a nice place
[11:02] <Beldar> KeyboardError, no prob
[11:02] <k1l_> nictrasavios: tollopwollop_ we have a offtopic channel for chtichat: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:02] <Rory> NuSuey: What graphics device do you have?
[11:02] <nictrasavios> k1l_, Thank you! New user here :3.
[11:03] <tollopwollop_> cucumbers
[11:03] <NuSuey> Rory: amd radeon hd 6850 (sadly don't know the internal Intel GPU name) ..but this is my PC http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c02741889&lang=en&cc=us&contentType=SupportFAQ&prodSeriesId=5035344
[11:03]  * cfhowlett Zero tolerance time?  I like it!
[11:03] <Venko> Guys, what fun things should I do with my Ubuntu server?
[11:04] <nictrasavios> Venko, World domination!
[11:04] <Rory> wtf is happening right now...
[11:04] <Rory> NuSuey: Do you have the AMD drivers installed from Additional Drivers tool?
[11:04] <cfhowlett> Venko, create a virus that will disable the alien invader's defense system
[11:04] <Rakholl> Venko: hook it up to a Freedom Tower and spread free internet
[11:04] <tovarish> Rory, yes you're right it's LANG and not XTERM_LOCALE which break ls, (How could I fail at testing)
[11:04] <Rory> tovarish: In your defense, it's not obvious
[11:05] <Venko> Keep the suggestions coming. I'm sure we'll get one I like eventually
[11:05] <Rakholl> Venko: Host an eternal dedicated server of Wings 2
[11:05] <NuSuey> Rory: I don't use the proprietary gpu drivers, they are giving me headaches.. but as far as I understood, since the problem is in the internal GPU output (since I'm using the HDMI output on the mainboard) the problem isn't with the AMD drivers, but the Intel ones? everything works on 13.10 .. but not on 12.04.. the problem is - what is missing in 12.04
[11:06] <Rory> NuSuey: Oh I see. Probably an Intel graphics driver in the kernel
[11:07] <wekalaner> hello
[11:07] <NuSuey> Rory: well .. I used the same kernel 3.12 on 13.10 and 3.12 on 12.04 .. 13.10 detected the monitors, the 12.04 didnt
[11:07] <Rory> I'm not sure then NuSuey
[11:07] <Rory> !hi | wekalaner
[11:07] <Rory> aww did that command go?
[11:08] <NuSuey> Rory: sry will go to lunch, brb in 30 min :/ if you have any idea.. just msg me
[11:08] <wekalaner> if i install the current version of ubuntu, will it be possible to upgrade to the new LTS in 2014 as soon as it comes out? in your experience, can i expect that the upgrade will work without a lot of problems? also, does the ubuntu installer allow me to use full disk encryption or do i have to do everything by hand?
[11:08] <Rory> wekalaner: You can upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04, and from 13.10 to 14.04
[11:08] <Rory> wekalaner: You can do full-disk encryption automatically by selecting that option as part of the guided partiotioner in the installer
[11:09] <ir601> hi
[11:09] <ir601> ive just updated ubuntu from 13.04 to 13.10 and my wifi is no longer working
[11:09] <malt> can you ssh console command another remote computer with ubuntu default install? or do you got to install software
[11:09] <Rory> ir601: What wifi device do you have?
[11:09] <Rory> malt: You need to install openssh-server on the target system
[11:10] <nictrasavios> wekalaner, and I can teach you how to make your computer reply with "Access Denied" and "Access Granted" instead of "cryptsetup: - blah blah blah"
[11:10] <Rory> malt: The client-side program "ssh" is already installed
[11:10] <ir601> ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00queue_write_tx_frame_
[11:10] <ir601> is the error
[11:10] <ir601> its a ra link i belive
[11:10] <Rory> nictrasavios: Can you make it do this? http://rory.sh/403.html
[11:10] <Rory> ir601: Do you have another way of accessing the Internet on that device?
[11:11] <ir601> yes i can use ehternet
[11:11] <Rory> ir601: Can you please pastebin the output of "lspci -v" ?
[11:11] <Rory> Please paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel
[11:11] <ir601> lspci lists it as RT3290
[11:11] <ir601> gah ok 1 sec
[11:12] <Rory> ir601: No that's fine
[11:12] <Rory> ir601: that was all I needed really
[11:12] <ir601> oh ok
[11:12] <Rory> ir601: Can you show me the output of: modinfo rt2800pci | grep 3290
[11:12] <ir601> sure 1 sec
[11:13] <Siya> saleniex: Work WinXP build (running in VM) identified the issue. Due to size the CF card gets formatted as FAT16 by Ununtu which has a restrictively small FAT table. I ran out of table size before I ran out if disk size...
[11:13] <Siya> formatted it FAT32 and now all is working
[11:14] <ir601> alias: pci:v00001814d00003290sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
[11:14] <Rory> ir601: Great now can you run: sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree && sudo rmmod rt2800pci && sudo modprobe rt2800pci
[11:16] <ir601> hrm
[11:16] <ir601> unable to download
[11:16] <ir601> 1sec
[11:17] <Rory> ir601: can you run apt-get update first, and if you still get an error, pastebin the full output
[11:17] <ir601> dns is buggard for some reason
[11:17] <Rory> ir601: I'll let you fix it. *buggered
[11:19] <Nprog> Hi, How to reset unity.
[11:19] <ir601> ok sorry for the wait
[11:19] <Rory> !details | Nprog
[11:19] <Rory> Nprog: Do you mean reset all the settings?
[11:19] <nictrasavios> Nprog, Or simply restart?
[11:20] <Nprog> no
[11:20] <Nprog> is a bug
[11:20] <nictrasavios> Nprog, What kinda bug?
[11:20] <Rory> I've heard that before, this morning
[11:20] <Rory> nictrasavios: Can you provide some details on what actual problem you're experiencing?
[11:20] <Rory> Nprog: ^
[11:20] <Nprog> the window is not in top
[11:21] <nictrasavios> Rory, Well, its a little hard to describe, you see, sometimes when me and the mrs are alone... - Kidding :P.
[11:21] <nictrasavios> Nprog, Which window?
[11:22] <Brandano> how can I set the execution order of an init.d script?
[11:22] <ir601> rory
[11:22] <Brandano> on 12.04
[11:22] <ir601> that completed succesfully
[11:22] <Rory> Brandano: What do you mean by execution order?
[11:22] <Nprog> like the image
[11:22] <Rory> ir601: OK, do you have wifi now?
[11:23] <ir601> wow!
[11:23] <ir601> thanks man!!!!!!
[11:23] <Rory> Nprog: Can you describe your issue, bearing in mind we can't see what you can see? We only know what you tell us
[11:23] <ir601> oh wait it d/c
[11:23] <Rory> No problem, glad I could help :)
[11:23] <Rory> oh
[11:23] <Rory> reboot ftw :P
[11:23] <Brandano> Rory: I have created a new init script for ASSP, an SMTP proxy. I'd like it to start after MySQL and Clamd hve been already started
[11:23] <ir601> lol ok 1 sec
[11:23] <nictrasavios> Nprog, Alright, I'm not following. Can you please describe the situation in detail?
[11:24] <ir601> rory what was the cause?
[11:24] <Brandano> Rory: I need some upstart documentation, I guess
[11:24] <ir601> out of date wifi drivers from 13.04?
[11:24] <Nprog> I do not know how to say, just like the picture so
[11:25] <Rory> Brandano: You can edit /etc/init/your_script.conf and change its "start on" clause to include "and started mysql"
[11:25] <lpapp> hi, what is the best way to replace lshd with openssh?
[11:25] <bazhang> !upstart | Brandano
[11:25] <lpapp> i.e. how to stop the lshd service permanently, or star the openssh permanently
[11:25] <bazhang> !find lshd
[11:25] <lpapp> (i.e. preserving the state after boot)
[11:25] <Rory> !cn > Nprog
[11:26] <bazhang> install lsh-server lpapp
[11:26] <lpapp> bazhang: huh?
[11:26] <Brandano> Thanks Rory, bazhang
[11:26] <lpapp> I wanna *get* rid of lshd.
[11:26] <bazhang> or the reverse
[11:27] <nictrasavios> Rory, I was just about to ask if that was possible. Thanks!
[11:27] <bazhang> !find openssh
[11:27] <ir601> yeah rory same situation as before
[11:27] <ir601> :/
[11:27] <bazhang> so install openssh-server lpapp
[11:28] <Rory> ir601: I've seen reports that a later upstream kernel can fix this, is that something you're happy to do?
[11:28] <Rory> ir601: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/11/linux-kernel-3-12-released-install-ubuntu-or-linux-mint/
[11:28] <lpapp> bazhang: it is already installed, but like I said, that is not enough.
[11:28] <ir601> lets give this a wack
[11:29] <lpapp> bazhang: the lshd service has to disabled, and the openssh has to be enabled.
[11:29] <bazhang> lpapp, then detail your requirements
[11:29] <lpapp> or you are claiming to reinstall the package because that will set the right service up?
[11:31] <wekalaner> thanks Rory
[11:31] <Rory> wekalaner: /np
[11:31] <Rory> oh that doesn't work, I can't weechat
[11:31] <Rory> No problem, glad I could help :)
[11:32] <Kaxo> Given that y is inversely proportional to x, when y = 5 when x = 7, find the value of x when y = 70
[11:32] <Kaxo> Rory, would you like to help?
[11:32] <Rory> !ot | Kaxo
[11:32] <Kaxo> I have an Math exam tomorrow.
[11:32] <wekalaner> i had installed debian wheezy over the weekend, however, my i217 ethernet card required me to upgrade the kernel - while updating there was a problem with the initramfs generation, so i broke the system twice. i just do not want to deal with these problems so i decided to go for ubuntu
[11:32] <Kaxo> oh sorry, wrong channel.
[11:32] <Kaxo> I thought I was in #maths.
[11:32] <Kaxo> sorry :)
[11:33] <Walex> wekalaner: regardless with Linux kernels you should buy only hw known to be supported, not buy random hw and hope it is supported.
[11:33] <Walex> wekalaner: also, Debian has a backported kernel with newer drivers, and even the 'stable' drivers get updated once or twice a year.
[11:33] <wekalaner> Walex: my hardware is supported, i just need a recent kernel version in contrast to 3.0.2 which is the default in wheezy
[11:34] <Walex> wekalaner: for the kernel you use...
[11:34] <wekalaner> Walex: i used the backported kernel. however, there was a problem with initramfs generation
[11:34] <lpapp> anyone?
[11:34] <Walex> wekalaner: sometimes you can't win :-)
[11:34] <wekalaner> i was restricted to particular hardware is a made a hackintosh. linux is just my alternativ/second choice os for particular tasks
[11:34] <Walex> lpapp: Bueller? Bueller? :-)
[11:34] <lpapp> huh?
[11:35] <wekalaner> well, i will give ubuntu a go and hope that it does disappoint me :)
[11:35] <wekalaner> *not
[11:35] <Walex> lpapp: the best way for repeating questions is: repeat them *in full*, not more frequently than about every 5-10 minutes
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> wekalaner: run it off a USB stick with a large persistance...
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> wekalaner: Precise which is the earliest supported release uses 3.2 but can use 3.8 using backports
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> wekalaner: all I can really say is - suck it and see
[11:36] <Walex> lpapp: BTW there was a popular TV series in the USA set in a college where a teacher would ask a question and then add "anyone? anyone? Bueller?" as the teacher thought that Bueller was the star student.
[11:36] <wekalaner> run what of a usb stick?
[11:36] <lpapp> 11:21 < lpapp> hi, what is the best way to replace lshd with openssh?
[11:36] <lpapp> 11:21 < lpapp> i.e. how to stop the lshd service permanently, or star the openssh permanently
[11:36] <lpapp> 11:21 < lpapp> (i.e. preserving the state after boot)
[11:37] <Walex> lpapp: uninstall 'lshd' and install 'openssh-server'
[11:37] <Rory> lol I bet Kaxo didn't get his maths homework done for him in #maths :P
[11:38] <Walex> lpapp: unfortunately in Debian-derived systems services are started permanently as soon as they are installed, and viceversa obviously.
[11:38] <lpapp> Walex: what the f...... strange!
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> wekalaner: Ubuntu, you can run it off the usb like a live cd, but faster as USB is a lot faster than optical
[11:38] <ir601> Rory THANK YOU
[11:38] <lpapp> dpkg -l \*shd\*
[11:38] <lpapp> No packages found matching *shd*.
[11:38] <Walex> lpapp: Debian derived systems make the assumption that if you install some service you always want to run it.
[11:38] <ir601> :D
[11:38] <Rory> ir601: It works now?
[11:38] <wekalaner> i see, thanks for the suggestion
[11:39] <ir601> yeah perfectly
[11:39] <nictrasavios> Walex, Which makes it fun when you want to secure them...
[11:39] <Rory> Good to hear
[11:39] <Walex> lpapp: it is an assumption that annoye me, e.g. on a laptop.
[11:40] <Walex> nictrasavios: it is not so much secure, because they are supposed to be secure in their default configuration, and Debian Developers take that seriously.
[11:40] <sisyphu> Sorry for my ignorance, how can I defend against arp attack with arpON?
[11:40] <lpapp> Walex: it is just stupid
[11:40] <Rory> sisyphu: Did you read the arpON docs?
[11:40] <gdi2k> hi all, I have added a NIC to my machine (in addition to the 2 onboard). I see it in lspci but it doesn't show up in ifconfig
[11:40] <Venko> Walex: What about those ssh keys? >.>
[11:40] <lpapp> Walex: what is the name of lshd?
[11:40] <lpapp> executable and package?
[11:40] <nictrasavios> Walex, Yeah, but they are not always right. They can't make some changes because it would inconvenience many.
[11:41] <Walex> lpapp: 'dpkg -S lshd' and/or 'apt-cache search lshd'
[11:41] <Rory> gdi2k: ifup interface_name
[11:41] <sisyphu> Rory: Yeah but confused
[11:41] <Rory> sisyphu: What about this tutorial http://redes-privadas-virtuales.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/shutting-out-arp-poisoning-and-spoofing.html
[11:41] <nictrasavios> !man | sisyphu
[11:42] <Walex> nictrasavios: it is more because it is a part of Debian Policy and changes to Debian Policy have to be discussed widely and let's say rather animatedly :-)
[11:42] <lpapp> Walex: ah, it is lssh-server
[11:42] <lpapp> lsh*
[11:42] <lpapp> Walex: that is interesting that lsh-server is installed along with openssh-server
[11:42] <lpapp> the last one installed will take precedence for the running service?
[11:42] <Walex> lpapp: I also recommend installing 'dlocate' and 'apt-file'
[11:42] <teclo-> He said it
[11:42] <teclo-> he said Ubuntu
[11:43] <Walex> lpapp: that's one of the things with Debian-based distros: they benefit from things like 'alternatives'
[11:43] <Walex> lpapp: or 'dpkg-divert'.
[11:43] <nictrasavios> Walex, true. Still, makes it annoying.
[11:43] <gdi2k> Rory: Thanks, but how do I find the interface name? I have eth0 and eth1 from the existing onboard NICs, but eth3 doesn't work: Ignoring unknown interface eth3=eth3.
[11:43] <nictrasavios> Why are so many pingouts and joins happening?
[11:43] <Walex> gdi2k: 'ip link show;
[11:44] <gdi2k> Walex: It's not there :( only lo, eth0 and eth1
[11:44] <Rory> nictrasavios: It's a busy channel and lots of people have it on autojoin
[11:44] <Walex> gdi2k: try 'lspci' to double check.
[11:44] <nictrasavios> Rory, Any way to disable those messages?
[11:44] <Rory> nictrasavios: what client?
[11:44] <cfhowlett> nictrasavios, xchat allow you silence the ins/outs
[11:44] <gdi2k> it's there: 04:07.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc DGE-528T Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev 10)
[11:44] <nuclearnadal> http://www.linux.org/threads/do-not-use-ubuntu.3977/ ??
[11:44] <nictrasavios> I'm on xChat
[11:45] <lpapp> Walex: http://pastebin.kde.org/p7nwrleua
[11:45] <cfhowlett> nictrasavios, right click on the channel, see the setttings
[11:45] <lpapp> cannot remove lshd apparently.
[11:45] <Rory> nictrasavios:  Right-click on the tab you want to change. In the submenu of the channel name, there's a toggle-item "Show join/part messages", simply turn this off.
[11:45] <nictrasavios> Thank you! Any way to make it global?
[11:45] <Rory> nictrasavios: /set irc_conf_mode 1
[11:45] <Rory> nictrasavios: Then all channels you join after setting this will start with "Show join/part messages" turned off.
[11:45] <Walex> gdi2k: try 'dmesg | egrep '04:07|eth[^01]'
[11:46] <nictrasavios> Rory: cfhowlett: Thank you both!
[11:46] <lpapp> Walex: I am trying to uninstall lshd behind ssh
[11:46] <lpapp> :D
[11:46] <lpapp> I can only uninstall it from the server room??
[11:46] <nuclearnadal> is that fake or what ? http://www.linux.org/threads/do-not-use-ubuntu.3977/
[11:46] <Walex> lpapp: first of all such work is best done in a 'screen' in general.
[11:46] <Rory> !fud | nuclearnadal
[11:47] <gdi2k> Walex: thanks, but not there: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3748138
[11:47] <Walex> lpapp: note also that 'invoke-rc.d' no longer necessarily work with Ubuntu, which uses 'upstart' for most services.
[11:48] <Walex> lpapp: try first 'service lsh-server stop; service lshd stop'
[11:48] <lpapp> lshd: unrecognized service
[11:48] <Walex> lpapp: whatever the name is...
[11:48] <lpapp> ok, uninstalled.
[11:48] <lpapp> now reinstall openssh-server?
[11:48] <Walex> lpapp: I hope that you are not connected with 'lshd' right now...
[11:49] <lpapp> of course I am.
[11:49] <nictrasavios> Of course they would. By sending those strings, they have a program (not a human) index the strings to improve search results. I'd be shocked if they didn't.
[11:49] <Walex> lpapp: yes, or just 'service ssh start'
[11:49] <Rory> we'll see in 240 seconds when he ping timeouts :P
[11:49] <lpapp> Walex: apt-get install --reinstall openssh-server went fine.
[11:49] <lpapp> sudo netstat -anp |grep 22 |grep LISTEN
[11:49] <lpapp> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      15462/sshd
[11:49] <lpapp> tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN      15462/sshd
[11:50] <Walex> lpapp: now, without logging out, open a second 'ssh' connection.
[11:50] <Walex> lpapp: you know, just for testing...
[11:50] <lpapp> I already logged out
[11:50] <Walex> lpapp: you are a huge optimist :-).
[11:50] <lpapp> but it fixed my sftp issue
[11:50] <lpapp> why?
[11:50] <lpapp> it does work
[11:50] <Rory> ohh I've been bitten by that one
[11:50] <gdi2k> Walex: I bought it because Linux Hardware Guide says "is supported by Linux kernel Versions 2.4, 2.6 and 3.0 out-of-the-box". http://www.linux-hardware-guide.com/2012-04-08-d-link-dge-528t-gigabit-ethernet-adapter-100010010mbit-pci-bus-2-2-32-bit-netzwerkkarte
[11:50] <Rory> lpapp: If it hadn't worked, you'd be locked out
[11:50] <nictrasavios> nuclearnadal, None of that is actually bad. Infact, the kind of "survallence" (which it really isn't) is used by every mainstream website out there to improve user expriance. They aren't "watching you" they are sampling data from their user base to improve their program, how else would they figure out how to improve their content.
[11:51] <lpapp> Rory: right.
[11:51] <Walex> lpapp: in my experience you *never* let go of a working connection until you have fully tested that the sw that allows you to do the connection works.
[11:51] <Rory> lpapp: unless you want a red-faced late-night call to the on-call datacentre engineers
[11:52] <lpapp> Rory: actually the server machine is a few metres away
[11:52] <Walex> but it is very easy to forget and logout automatically.
[11:52] <Rory> lpapp: Ah that's OK then
[11:52] <Walex> gdi2k: IIRC that card is indeed supported
[11:53] <Walex> Rory: no, it is not ok, because it is impotan to develop that habit so you can rely on it "by instinct" for the cases where it matters...
[11:53] <Rory> Remote KVM master race
[11:54] <Walex> gdi2k: the reason why I asked you to look at the logs is to see why ever it is not being recognized. Because it should...
[11:54] <gdi2k> Walex: could it be conflicting with the onboard cards? (I bought this because the oboards are giving me endless headaches): 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 03)
[11:55] <Walex> gdi2k: yes indeed, but unlikely. Whatever the reason is most likely it is somewhere in the logs.
[11:55] <Walex> gdi2k: also most likely you can 'remmod' the relevant driver and 'modprobe' it again to see fresh log messages
[11:56] <Walex> gdi2k: BTW those Realtek chips are bit crude, but they ought to be  work fairly well with the right driver.
[11:56] <gdi2k> Walex: Thanks, will work on it. It's a bit tricky as it's a remote server and I'm very likely to lock mysefl out...
[11:56] <Walex> gdi2k: well, you are connected via the Realtek cards obviously, and the driver module will be completely different.
[11:58] <nictrasavios> SolidWorks works beautifully on VMWare!
[11:58] <gdi2k> Walex: Yes, the existing cards are working at the moment. Going for the brute-force approach - having the onboard NICs disabled in BIOS and hoping it gets itself a DHCP address on reboot...
[11:59] <Walex> gdi2k: why? That's an unncessary risk.
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> gdi2k: you can tell an interface to get address via dhcp via dhclient eth1   etc
[11:59] <gdi2k> Walex: I can re-enable it if need be, I have some remote hands
[11:59] <Guest68122> can any one describe what wine does in one line? it takes the windows app and run its code? then converts the code to linux code? any sort of reverse engineering?
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> Guest68122: its translates DirectX calls to native Linux calls
[11:59] <Walex> gdi2k: or anyhow with 'ifup eth3', the problem is that you don't have an 'eth3' of course.
[12:00] <Walex> gdi2k: wait a sec. let me look again at your stuff, I was a bit distracted.
[12:00] <cfhowlett> Guest68122, what ActionParsnip said + "with varying degrees of success"
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Guest68122: Wine is a compatibility layer. It duplicates functions of Windows by providing alternative implementations of the DLLs that Windows programs call,[4] and a process to substitute for the Windows NT kernel
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Guest68122: source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_%28software%29
[12:01] <Walex> gdi2k: wait a sec. I just double checked and the DGE-528 has got a Realtek chip too :-)
[12:02] <Guest68122> ActionParsnip,  cfhowlett  how wine knows the code without even knowing the code of the application?
[12:02] <gdi2k> Walex: yes, it's all realtek, that's why I thought it's perhaps a conflict
[12:03] <Walex> gdi2k: and I used to have a Realtek on a couple of machines. I vaguely remember that there is more than one Realtek driver, and/or it needs a parameter.
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> Guest68122: thats where lots of trial and error and research comes in
[12:03] <Walex> gdi2k: which kernel version have you got?
[12:03] <NuSuey> Rory: guess you didn't have any more ideas.. yea
[12:05] <Walex> gdi2k: also from http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/ethernet-card-dge-528t-and-kernel-2-6-a-350564/ I see that the hw code for the card is 1186:4300
[12:06] <Walex> gdi2k: and if you do 'grep 0x0*1186.0x0*4300 /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/modules.pcimap' it will tell you which module supports it
[12:06] <gdi2k> Walex: thanks, will check it out. Was hoping this was going to be super easy as the onboard ones were such a headache. Anyway, I disabled the onboards in BIOS, but no dice. It doesn't configure itself
[12:06] <gdi2k> Walex: Will try when it comes back up on the onboard NCIs
[12:07] <NerdKelly> If when installing ubuntu I create the /home directory on a seperate drive, can I preserve this should I need to re-install  sometime in the future?
[12:07] <cfhowlett> NerdKelly, indeed.  that's the primary benefit of a dedicated /home.  just don't format it.
[12:08] <ulrichard> Anybody an idea here, why gpg-agent starts without support for shh, even if configured in gpg-agent.conf? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2187463
[12:08] <NerdKelly> cool
[12:11] <michael_> load r8101 module, but no eth0  device, any hint would be greatly appreciated
[12:11] <NuSuey> is it okay to ask the same question which I asked a hour or so before, or is it considered rude?
[12:12] <michael_> it is ubuntu 13.10
[12:13] <gdi2k> Walex: Thanks for your help! A simple loading of r8169 did the trick. The onboard devices are using r8168
[12:13] <gdi2k> Walex: Not understanding why that didn't happen automatically...
[12:14] <NuSuey> I can't see the internal GPU HDMI output in 12.04, http://i.imgur.com/zpgLwpt.png .. got one Monitor in the DP, the other in the DVI .. and the HDMI is in the internal GPU on the mainboard ..http://i.imgur.com/H17DBa7.png (5) I see the splash-screen (or verbose if I enabled it) on the HMDI - but the system detects only the monitors on the primary GPU
[12:14] <NuSuey> (everything works on 13.10 but not on 12.04)
[12:15] <gdi2k> Walex: Follow up: I had blacklisted r8169 when I tried installing Realtek OEM drivers for the onboard devices. It all makes sense now! I'm a lemonhead. :/
[12:16] <Blaster> anyone here use bitcoin-qt?  It keeps crashing on me, and I can't find anything in the debug.log
[12:17] <lar4> Hi. I plugged in a second monitor of different resolution and now one monitor displays the opened windows and another displays the task and menu bars. How can I use each with a different desktop?
[12:17] <michael_> sudo modprobe r8169, it does not have eth0  yet
[12:18] <gdi2k> micheal_: try lspci -v it should tell you which module it needs
[12:18] <lar4> forget the question, nevermind :)
[12:19] <ulrichard> Blaster: bitcoin-qt started to crash on my underpowered devices some months ago. On machines with enough computing power and memory, I had no issues so far.
[12:19] <Blaster> if bitcoin runs out of ram does it just crash?
[12:19] <michael_> lspci -v,  no information about ethernet controller
[12:19] <Blaster> I only have 1024 M allocated to that machine
[12:21] <ulrichard> Blaster: I don't actually know why, but it usually hogged the CPU for a while and all of a sudden it crashed. After about every sixth crash, the block chain needed reindexing. So, I don't use it on these devices anymore.
[12:21] <Blaster> I would have thought the software would be pretty reliable on ubuntu
[12:22] <ulrichard> Blaster: That's probably not enough. You could try with bitcoind, but I don't think it makes much difference. Somebody told me to reduce the max connections, but I never actually tried.
[12:23] <ulrichard> Blaster: A year ago, it even worked on an alix with only 256MB RAM.
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> doesnt the cost of power outweigh the value of bitcoins?
[12:23] <lucasredsn0w> hdon:here?
[12:23] <OerHeks> ActionParsnip, maybe with a ULV cluster
[12:24] <ulrichard> ActionParsnip: only if you beleve outdated charts that still calculate with the power consumption of CPU's for mining.
[12:24] <michael_> r8105e is an network chip integrated into onboard
[12:24] <Blaster> ulrichard:  hasn't crashed since I updated to 2048 M
[12:25] <Blaster> fingeys crossed
[12:33] <michael_> lspci -v, no ethernet controller appear, ethernet controller is bad?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> michael_: try:   sudo lshw -C network
[12:36] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:37] <michael_> sudo lshw -C network, nothing output
[12:38] <PebkacJones> test
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> michael_: not even  'PCISYS' ?
[12:38] <PebkacJones> :)
[12:38] <michael_> PCISYS, it does appear, but no result
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> michael_: wait, your PCI bus is slow
[12:39] <michael_> pci bus is slow, how to do next
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> michael_: wait, it will come
[12:40] <michael_> it has done, then return back to command line
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> michael_: or do you have your prompt back already?
[12:41] <michael_> yes, back to prompt
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> michael_: is the Ethernet enabled in BIOS?
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> michael_: do you dual boot?
[12:41] <michael_> single booot
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> michael_: is the Ethernet enabled in BIOS?
[12:43] <michael_> only  wake on boardlan, no the ethernet enable option in BIOS
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> michael_: are the lights flashing around the RJ45 port?
[12:43] <michael_> the flashing is lighting
[12:43] <ResQue> how can i change the grub resolution form the grub shell?
[12:44] <michael_> the lights is on around the RJ45 port
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> michael_: thats good. Are there any lines in dmesg relating to the interface?
[12:46] <michael_> in dmesg , there are two lines
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> michael_: what do they say>
[12:47] <michael_> realtek: no valid ssid, checking pincfg 0x40a4c601 for nid 0x1d
[12:47] <michael_> realtek: enabling init ASM_ID=0xc601 CODEC_ID=10ec0662
[12:48] <michael_> not any others
[12:52] <michael_> what should i check
[12:56] <michael_> what is the problem?
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> michael_: is this a new NIC?
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc > Guest68122
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc > Guest9161
[13:00] <michael_> it is a new NIC
[13:00] <michael_> integrated NIC
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> michael_: could be faulty, tried a new PCI slowe?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> slot*
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> michael_: oh, integrated
[13:00] <michael_> yes,integrated nic
[13:01] <Guest9161> hello
[13:01] <Guest9161> whats up guys
[13:02] <shuvarek> the sky?
[13:02] <Guest9161> sky
[13:02] <Guest9161> what does mean ?
[13:03] <shuvarek> look up and you will see :)
[13:03] <michael_> oh, it may be faulty
[13:03] <cfhowlett> Guest9161, what is your ubuntu issue?
[13:03] <shuvarek> (maybe before you have to go outside)
[13:04] <shuvarek> cfhowlett:  my issue is that xfce crashing but and I even thought about using unity
[13:04] <cfhowlett> shuvarek, are you in ubuntu or xubuntu?
[13:05] <shuvarek> but I need to have some kind controls which shows me internet/memory/disk usage
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> shuvarek: conky can do that
[13:05] <shuvarek> and not conky as I would like to see it when I use other applications
[13:06] <shuvarek> Problem is I use computer with small memory
[13:06] <Guest9161> ./joined #linuxac
[13:06] <shuvarek> and when it started slowing down, I cannot see the conky
[13:07] <shuvarek> I need something what I can see everytime on panel, like in previous gnome, or xfce
[13:07] <shuvarek> Is it possible in unity?
[13:07] <Guest9161> ./joine#linuxac
[13:08] <Pusztito> blackpanther.hu
[13:08] <shuvarek> I am on xubuntu, but when I talk to much about other de on that chanel they told me that it is off-topic
[13:08] <shuvarek> so I came here because I think about unity too
[13:08] <cfhowlett> shuvarek, try lxde
[13:09] <cfhowlett> shuvarek, should be marginally lighter than xfce
[13:09] <shuvarek> I am using it (not now) but when I had the problem I installed it, but it is too primitive for my liking
[13:09] <shuvarek> even keyboard layoout I have to do from console
[13:09] <Ben64> shuvarek: well what are the specs of your computer
[13:10] <shuvarek> Ben64:  netbook samsung nc110
[13:10] <Ben64> yeah you should be running lxde
[13:10] <shuvarek> nice small thing, I have few systems on it (but usually use only one)
[13:11] <cfhowlett> shuvarek, xubuntu / lubuntu are your recommended options
[13:11] <Rory> !pm > nuclearnadal
[13:11] <shuvarek> I thought also about mate, trinity, e17/18 and unity
[13:12] <shuvarek> Ben64:  even in xfce I put one panel on the left (like in unity) so I can have more space to read
[13:13] <shuvarek> Ben64:  and I like xfce, but it crashes too much
[13:14] <shuvarek> Ben64:  has this same problem before when I used 12.04 (now on 13.10)
[13:14] <cfhowlett> shuvarek, find/fix the reason for the crashes or try the other DE's
[13:15] <shuvarek> cfhowlett:  what about unity, how much ram it needs, and is it possible to do what I ask on beginning?
[13:15] <shuvarek> cfhowlett:  (see the processor/memory/network ussage)
[13:16] <Ben64> you're not going to have a fun time with an atom and 1GB of ram on unity
[13:16] <compdoc> some ppl have a lower threashold for fun than others
[13:17] <shuvarek> Ben64:  so probably try with e17/18 or other
[13:18] <shuvarek> Ben64:  will see
[13:18] <cfhowlett> shuvarek, unity is highly demanding which is why almost everyone will recommend you use an alternate DE.  xfce and lxde are known light alternatives
[13:19] <shuvarek> cfhowlett:  I used to try bodhi linux some time ago (maybe one or few years) and it was interesting
[13:20] <shuvarek> cfhowlett:  do not remember why I did not use it, if I have any problem with it, so maybe it is time to give it a try
[13:21] <cfhowlett> shuvarek, unlike many, you are clearly comfortable with installing and testing alternate DE's.  Kudos.  Try them all - they're free.  When you find the one you like, keep it!  Best of luck to you.
[13:21] <shuvarek> cfhowlett:  thakns
[13:21] <Ruler-> how do i take screenshot of current window. alt + printscreen takes screenshot of the "type your command" bar
[13:22] <Rory> Ruler-: Usability papercut. I use something like Shutter
[13:24] <RedLyle> hello
[13:24] <aptget> hello RedLyle
[13:25] <RedLyle> I am new to ubuntu and just found the irc
[13:26] <aptget> RedLyle: welcome to ubuntu...by the way what is your irc client you're using now? irssi / weechat / xchat etc?
[13:27] <RedLyle> xchat
[13:27] <RedLyle> i just installed a newer version of linux (Pinguy) and have been playing around in it
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> RedLyle: unfortunately, pinguy is not supported here
[13:30] <RedLyle> is there a chat that does have users with pinguy?
[13:30] <Quest> can linux install on bsd FSs?
[13:31] <aptget> RedLyle: i am not sure... try #pinguy
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> RedLyle: #pinguyos
[13:31] <RedLyle> thanks
[13:32] <philinux> #PinguyOS
[13:32] <philinux> MonkeyDust;~ seems they use capitals
[13:33] <Rory> philinux: Channel names are case-insensitive
[13:34] <philinux> Rory;~ ah ok - probably good idea that
[13:35] <enbergj> why doesn't reinstalling MySQL actually reinstall properly? I do apt-get purge mysql-server mysql-server-5.5, rm -rf /etc/mysql /var/lib/mysql, and then apt-get install mysql-server-5.5, and then starting the service will fail because the table mysql.host doesn't exist?
[13:42] <Rory> enbergj: sudo apt-get purge mysql-server mysql-client mysql-common mysql-client-5.5 mysql-server-5.5
[13:42] <enbergj> but why would I uninstall mysql-client and mysql-common to uninstall the server, that makes no sense at all
[13:42] <Rory> You could manually run sudo dpkg --reconfigure mysql-server
[13:43] <Rory> enbergj: And I think there's a command mysql_install_db
[13:43] <mayo> could not find libjava.so on ubuntu 13.10
[13:44] <Rory> !details | mayo
[13:46] <mayo> Ok. I freshly installed Ubuntu 13.10. I installed Java using webupd8 instructions. When I run "java -version", the result is fine. But when I run "javac -version", two errors occurred.
[13:46] <jack> will trusty be LTS?
[13:46] <mayo> 1. could not find libjava.so
[13:46] <Rory> mayo: Did you actually install javac?
[13:46] <Rory> mayo: The java packages to run java programs, and the javac packages to compile java programs are different
[13:46] <jack> Rory, will trusty be LTS?
[13:46] <Rory> jack: yes
[13:46] <mayo> Error: could not find libjava.so
[13:46] <Rory> !lts
[13:46] <mayo> Error: Could not find Java SE Runtime Environment.
[13:46] <enbergj> I dunno, I tried that purge and then install, but it seems to freeze during install .. I'll give it a few more min, but it's already been a few min
[13:46] <jack> cool, thx
[13:46] <Rory> mayo: sudo apt-get install javac
[13:47] <mayo> Unable to locate package javac
[13:47] <ChromeOS> Fear God or Perish
[13:47] <Rory> ChromeOS: Not here thanks
[13:48] <enbergj> isn't that openjdk-7-jdk or something like that?
[13:48] <Rory> yeah I think so
[13:48] <Rory> !find javac
[13:48] <ChromeOS> If you dont fear God and obey the son there will be wrath(John 3:36)
[13:48] <BluesKaj> he's baaaack !
[13:48] <mayo> No. It is java-7-oracle
[13:48] <mayo> libjava.so is found
[13:49] <mayo> Rory
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> ChromeOS: this is support, do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[13:49] <Rory> mayo: java-7-oracle is only from that PPA and doesn't include a compiler
[13:49] <ChromeOS> ActionParsnip: no
[13:49] <ChromeOS> ActionParsnip: If you dont fear God and obey the son there will be wrath(John 3:36)
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> ChromeOS: then kindly be quiet or assist others
[13:49] <ChromeOS> If you dont fear God and obey the son there will be wrath(John 3:36)If you dont fear God and obey the son there will be wrath(John 3:36)
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> !ops | ChromeOS
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> ChromeOS: bye
[13:49] <mayo> Rory is there way to remove the java installed so far and for afresh
[13:50] <Rory> mayo: You don't need to remove anything. The java compiler and the java runtime are different
[13:50] <Rory> mayo: sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk
[13:51] <impradeepy> mayo:http://openjdk.java.net/install/
[13:52] <vaibhav> hi
[13:52] <Rory> impradeepy: No need to download things from websites, there's a package in the repositories
[13:53] <Guest47781> what is the current state of Bluray playback in Ubuntu? All I find is from 2012 or earlier, I'd like to know if there were advances and if we can playback normally
[13:53] <impradeepy> rory:just to tell whether he needs to develep java progms or just the java run time environment
[13:53] <mayo> Rory: I installed same thing on 12.04LTS. It worked then. But now, it nags me off
[13:53] <Rory> You'll have to be more specific mayo
[13:53] <mayo> impradeepy: I want both
[13:54] <Rory> mayo: to run java programs it's openjdk-7-jre - to compile java programs it's openjdk-7-jdk
[13:54] <jack> Guest47781, better ask the mplayer devs
[13:54] <jnhghy> I'm having a hard time making php work with sqlite, I've even reinsatlled php and all the modules but still no go... can anyone help?
[13:55] <Guest47781> jack, is there a channel over freenode?
[13:55] <mayo> Rory: Does Eclipse support Open JDK?
[13:55] <Rory> mayo: Can you please run "sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk && javac -version" and put the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com so I can see the problem?
[13:55] <Rory> mayo: Yes
[13:55] <Rory> mayo: OpenJDK is the reference implementation
[13:55] <impradeepy> mayo:rory just told you  as he said you need to be more specific regarding your needs
[13:58] <Rory> mayo: Did you run those commands? Did it produce an error?
[13:59] <g105b> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 13.10 and would really like to get some support using Wine to set up a new IMAP mail account for use in Outlook 2010. When I run control.exe, I can open the usual Mail settings window, but when it comes to typing the server configuration this is all I get: http://i.imgur.com/bgPRJPS.png The fields are not drawn correctly, and clicking on next crashes the application.
[13:59] <mayo> Rory:I did not install another related package. I installed and it worked fine. Thank You for your guidance.
[14:00] <Rory> you're welcome mayo
[14:00] <Rory> g105b: I'd ask in #winehq if I were you, they might be able to help better
[14:01] <jp-> or use thunderbird which has way better imap support than any version of outlook.
[14:01] <jack> Guest47781, no clue sorry
[14:02] <jp-> or even evolution which is also better with imap.
[14:13] <Mr_Quist> hi guys
[14:13] <Mr_Quist> i have a quick question, i need a fast way to change ~5000 0755 files to 0644
[14:14] <Mr_Quist> is there a way to list all 0755 files from a certain directory and push them into "chmod 0644" ?
[14:14] <enbergj> Mr_Quist: find /path/to/fonder -perm 0755 -exec chmod 0644 {} \;
[14:14] <enbergj> *folder
[14:14] <Mr_Quist> cool
[14:15] <Mr_Quist> thats what i was looking for
[14:15] <Mr_Quist> thanks enbergj :)
[14:15] <enbergj> wait
[14:15] <enbergj> if you don't want it to touch directories, add -type f
[14:15] <enbergj> after the path
[14:15] <Mr_Quist> ah cool
[14:16] <Mr_Quist> so "{}" is a placeholder for the arguments returned from "find" ?
[14:16] <enbergj> yes
[14:16] <Mr_Quist> and \; is a command delimiter on the "-exec"
[14:16] <enbergj> find is one of the most useful tools in linux, worth learning
[14:16] <enbergj> yes
[14:16] <Mr_Quist> so it execs chmod 0644 file1;chmod 0644 file2;chmod 0644 file3;
[14:16] <Mr_Quist> cool :)
[14:16] <enbergj> something like that
[14:16] <Mr_Quist> i know find indeed
[14:16] <Mr_Quist> didn't know how to pass variables / references properly
[14:17] <Mr_Quist> cheers :D
[14:17] <enbergj> you can optimize that with \+ at the end iirc, which gives the command as many arguments as it can until reaching the max length or something
[14:17] <Pici> Mr_Quist: Be aware, that -exec doesn't do well with filenames with spaces in them.
[14:17] <Mr_Quist> it doesn't
[14:17] <Mr_Quist> ?
[14:17] <Mr_Quist> okay
[14:18] <Mr_Quist> now if i were to search for certain files with extensions
[14:18] <Mr_Quist> i know i can use the * as a wildcard
[14:18] <Mr_Quist> but what if i want it to be recursive?
[14:18] <enbergj> well you can put quotes around the {} and it should work
[14:18] <Pici> Mr_Quist: use -name or -iname "*.foo"
[14:18] <Mr_Quist> find public/images -name *.png -perm 0644
[14:18] <ezt3612> Mr_Quist: you must quote
[14:19] <Mr_Quist> will show all .png's in public/images (and child nodes) with permission 0644 ?
[14:19] <ezt3612> find public/images -name "*.png" -perm 0644
[14:19] <enbergj> put quotes around "*.png"
[14:19] <Mr_Quist> find public/scripts -iname "*.png" -perm 0644 -exec chmod 0755 {} \;
[14:19] <Mr_Quist> cool
[14:19] <Stanley00> actually, single quote will work better :D
[14:19] <enbergj> Mr_Quist: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/422963/removing-directories-with-spaces-with-bash
[14:20] <ezt3612> Mr_Quist: otherwise the shell can possibly expand *.png to a list of filename of the current dir
[14:20] <enbergj> Mr_Quist: on a side note, why do you want to add the execute bit to PNGs?
[14:20] <ezt3612> good question :)
[14:21] <Mr_Quist> oh the problem is that i've built ~ 5000 JS files
[14:21] <Mr_Quist> (on windows, damnit)
[14:21] <Mr_Quist> so my git whines about file permission changes
[14:21] <enbergj> usually that stinks like trying to hack a CGI system by uploading images ;)
[14:21] <Mr_Quist> now with checkout -- i'd remove my changes as well
[14:21] <Mr_Quist> so i want to put back the original file perms
[14:22] <enbergj> yeah, so your actual case is *.js and from 0755 to 0644? ;)
[14:22] <Mr_Quist> damnit
[14:22] <Mr_Quist> yes
[14:22] <Mr_Quist> hahah
[14:22] <enbergj> well using those args might work produce a more desirable result ;)
[14:22] <Mr_Quist> hahah yeah i just thuoght of that
[14:22] <Mr_Quist> im sorry, im in my rehab phase of energydrinks
[14:23] <Mr_Quist> thanks anyway :)
[14:24] <amitprakash> Hi, I am getting a name 'WSGIPythonHome' is not defined, how do I resolve this?
[14:24] <Mr_Quist> i think i just leveled up on *nix CLI
[14:24] <Mr_Quist> apt-get install python*
[14:24] <Mr_Quist> im kidding amitprakash don't do that
[14:24] <enbergj> don't do that
[14:24] <enbergj> amitprakash: step 1) give us more information
[14:24] <Mr_Quist> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8660896/mod-wsgi-isnt-honoring-wsgipythonhome
[14:25] <amitprakash> enbergj, woudl you like the wsgi file in question?
[14:25] <Mr_Quist> i quote "Your mod_wsgi is likely compiled against a different Python version than you are trying to force it to use. "
[14:25] <amitprakash> Mr_Quist, is that from SO ? :P
[14:25] <enbergj> amitprakash: no
[14:25] <Mr_Quist> amitprakash, yes.
[14:26] <enbergj> !details | amitprakash
[14:26] <enbergj> ah, that worked
[14:26] <enbergj> so yeah .. you're basically saying "I got error X" .. not what you were trying to do, what gave the error, what version are you running, etc.
[14:28] <enbergj> amitprakash: also http://serverfault.com/questions/235621/where-do-i-place-the-wsgipythonhome-directive-in-the-httpd-conf-file
[14:31] <Mr_Quist> enbergj, perhaps "Google first" would be a more fitting answer :P
[14:34] <enbergj> some people consider jfgi to be a rude answer
[14:38] <samjam4ubu> Need help 4 ubuntu 12.04 multiboot
[14:39] <samjam4ubu> about grub settings for windows7
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> let's hear it, samjam4ubu
[14:41] <samjam4ubu> yes
[14:43] <goxl> JOIN
[14:43] <goxl> JOIN ubuntu-cn
[14:43] <Pici> goxl: /join #ubuntu-cn
[14:43] <goxl> thk
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> samjam4ubu: keep it in the channel please
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> !pm | samjam4ubu
[14:49] <samjam4ubu> i am new user
[14:53] <amitprakash> enbergj, oh damn, was putting it in the wsgi file
[14:54] <amitprakash> enbergj, thank you
[14:54] <Walex> gdi2k: /w 4
[14:54] <Walex> oops
[14:58] <Coryn> so if I want a binary to be accessible all the time, is it wrong to put it in /bin/ ?
[14:58] <Coryn> or perhaps /usr/bin/ is where I want to put it?
[15:00] <stormy98_> hey, wonder if you can help, i've got a imac running ubuntu as a server *test server* it had desktop installed so i done apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop^ rebooted the server, nowi get keneral panic not synicn gvfa unable to moun root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[15:01] <ActionPa1snip> stormy98_: removing the metapackage doesnt remove it's deps
[15:01] <ActionPa1snip> stormy98_: all you did was remove the metapackage
[15:01] <stormy98_> vfs cannot open root device mapper/nagios--vg-root or unkown bloke(0,0): error -6 , please append the coorect root= boot option here are the avialable partitions:, 0b00 104875 sro driver: so
[15:02] <ActionPa1snip> stormy98_: if you want to remove the GUI then remove Xorg and the rest will fail deps and be removed
[15:02] <stormy98_> so why not has it broken the parittion boot?
[15:02] <clarkk> I am trying to compile and install the vdpau libs, using configure, make install, install. It reports that "Libraries have been installed in: /usr/local/lib/vdpau".  How do I enable my system to use them, please?
[15:02] <ikonia> clarkk: what do you mean enable your system to use the
[15:03] <stormy98_> ah ok, but it doesn't boot up,a nd has been fine, not it will not boot cause of it not being able to mount  /mapper/nagios--vg-root
[15:03] <ikonia> clarkk: what are you expecting to happen after you install them
[15:04] <ikonia> stormy98_: that looks like your root file system, or at least the root directory for your nagios install
[15:04] <clarkk> ikonia: I'm hoping that flash won't crash every time I view a flash video in my browser. This was the case with previous versions of the nvidea driver and vdpau libs
[15:04] <stormy98_> thats what i thought, but how do i fix it! or have i just fooked the server!
[15:05] <ikonia> clarkk: I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are doing
[15:05] <clarkk> ikonia: how do I ensure that the libs are utilised?
[15:05] <ikonia> stormy98_: that language is uncalled for, and unwelcome
[15:05] <ikonia> stormy98_: why can't it mount the file system ?
[15:05] <ikonia> clarkk: utilized by what ?
[15:05] <stormy98_> sorry! for the rude words
[15:05] <clarkk> ikonia: at all?
[15:05] <ikonia> clarkk: something has to use them for them to be used
[15:06] <stormy98_> on boot up it says, cannt open root device mmapper/nagios--vg-root or unknown block(0,0); eroor -6 then please append a correct root boot option here are the avaliable parititons, 0b00 1040575 sro driver: sr, kernel panic - not syncing vs unable to mount root fs on unkonown-block(0,0);
[15:07] <ikonia> stormy98_: ok, so either the the volume group is not active (corruption ?) he file system is damaged on it
[15:07] <ikonia> stormy98_: what disks are in that volume group ?
[15:07] <stormy98_> I don't know, i'm guessing just the one parittion to be honnest
[15:08] <ikonia> stormy98_: why don't you know ? is this your system ?
[15:08] <stormy98_> it is mine, but i never configured it! the person before me who configured it left with no ducomentation, so i got to pick up the peices!
[15:09] <ikonia> stormy98_: what have you done so far to try to recover it ?
[15:10] <stormy98_> it has loads of kernels installed, like 10 or so, went through them and tried each one, also tried reocvery mode, tried to boot into single user mode as well same issue
[15:10] <stormy98_> i could use /dev/mapper/sr0 as listed above but i don't knwo what that is
[15:10] <ikonia> stormy98_: sr0 is normally a cdrom
[15:11] <stormy98_> ah ok
[15:11] <ikonia> stormy98_: I think you need to boot from an external media to try to get a look at how the system is setup
[15:11] <ikonia> stormy98_: trying to boot a root file system on volume manager control that is damaged is going to go nowhere
[15:11] <clarkk> I want to start again. I have used configure, make install and install to compile and install a library. How do I remove that library?
[15:11] <stormy98_> to be honnest I would be 99.9% sure that it will onyl have  one parition setup.
[15:12] <ikonia> clarkk: you can try make uninstall or manually remove the files
[15:12] <stormy98_> ikonia: what would be best progarms to use to check the system then.
[15:12] <ikonia> stormy98_: the best programs ?
[15:12] <ikonia> stormy98_: "a shell"
[15:12] <stormy98_> haha stupid question 1 to me, I knew you would say that haha!
[15:12] <clarkk> ikonia: where will the uninstall file be placed?
[15:13] <ikonia> clarkk: there is no uinstall file
[15:13] <stormy98_> cheers ikonia will go have a play!
[15:13] <stormy98_> I suppose a live cd / usb key would be a good start.
[15:13] <ikonia> stormy98_: that will work - just remember, the volume groups will not show up until you get them imported in your live media
[15:13] <moparisthebest_> can't you do something to 2 internet connections (like wifi and ethernet) so that your connection goes across both and if you disconnect one or the other it doesn't disconnect any existing connections?
[15:13] <moparisthebest_> I *thought* it was called bridging but that's not right
[15:13] <ikonia> moparisthebest_: the overhead of that sort of setup at home is not workth it
[15:14] <ikonia> that is not bridging no
[15:14] <stormy98_> ok thanks ikonia will go have a play :)
[15:14] <moparisthebest_> whats it called?
[15:14] <clarkk> ok thanks ikonia
[15:14] <ikonia> moparisthebest_: bonding
[15:15] <moparisthebest_> ah that's the word, thanks ikonia
[15:18] <bibi234> what can I do to deal with bots trying to request /phpmyadmin /wp-admin etc. on a webserver?
[15:18] <no1peanut> Hi :) - I seem to have an issue with 13.10 over earlier versions with the layout of php configuration files. It seems like the folder that used to exist /etc/php5/conf.d no longer exist - I have some scripts that use this location. Does anyone know how and why this has changed and if there is a new layout to follow ?
[15:18] <ActionPa1snip> no1peanut: would a symlink fix it?
[15:18] <ikonia> bibi234: block it - change the url, setup port knocking, setup bad bots processes on apache
[15:18] <moparisthebest_> bibi234: you could setup htdigest authentication in front of them?
[15:19] <moparisthebest_> or do what I do and move /phpmyadmin if you can, to /phpmyadminbalbnthoaeu/ or whatever
[15:19] <ikonia> moparisthebest_: using the default url is "exploiting 101"
[15:19] <ikonia> moparisthebest_: sorry, wrong person
[15:19] <no1peanut> ActionPa1snip: most likely - but I would like to know why this has changed
[15:19] <moparisthebest_> no problem, I agree :)
[15:20] <no1peanut> I am not just trying to fix my immidiate problem - I would like to know why this has changed
[15:21] <bibi234> ikonia: I'm not using the default URL, but those errors are polluting some log files, so I was wondering if there are some tools to block them?
[15:21] <somsip> bibi234: look into 'Fail2Ban'
[15:22] <moparisthebest_> if you aren't using those URL's at all, you can just block them
[15:22] <ikonia> bibi234: well, either setup ignore on the logs, block that url, or look at badbots for fail2ban
[15:22] <ikonia> or some other port knocking
[15:22] <moparisthebest_> or write a script to grep logs for IPs accessing those URLs, and iptables ban them
[15:22] <ikonia> "bad bots"
[15:22] <somsip> moparisthebest_: that is fail2ban...
[15:22] <moparisthebest_> if no legit IP should be accessing those URLs, you should be able to safely ban them all
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> no1peanut: 600+ people in ##php (that's double #)
[15:23] <vininim> what is the stock twitter ap in 13.10?
[15:24] <bibi234> somsip: ok thanks this tool looks perfect
[15:24] <ikonia> vininim: http://www.twitter.com
[15:24] <vininim> :3, gwibber knocked off?
[15:24] <somsip> bibi234: and as for WP with this, you might find this useful. I think it's still relevant http://is.gd/0vAJYm
[15:24] <ikonia> no idea
[15:24] <no1peanut> MonkeyDust: thx ..
[15:25] <ActionPa1snip> vininim: isnt itcalled 'friends' now or something like that
[15:26] <ActionPa1snip> vininim: gwibber is in the repos if you want it
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> "Gwibber is a social networking client for GNOME. It supports Facebook, Twitter, Identi.ca, StatusNet, FriendFeed, Qaiku, Flickr, and Digg."
[15:26] <bibi234> somsip: I don't use wordpress, but those nasty bots are still trying :)
[15:26] <vininim> I know, just wondering if I should change my modus operandi if I want to give feedback on stock ubuntu
[15:27] <somsip> bibi234: ok. The filters in that post can still be adapted anyhoo. Good luck
[15:27] <ActionPa1snip> vininim: why is 'stock ubuntu' a thing?
[15:28] <vininim> at some point of developlment "social networking" was a "thing"
[15:28] <ActionPa1snip> vininim: if you prefer an app for a particular task, use it
[15:28] <vininim> I have a lot of things tweaked, just wondering if they decide for something differnt for twitter beside gwibber
[15:29] <vininim> I know, I just want to know "stock twitter access". if it's the site, I've been doing it for a while and gave some feedback on gwibber when it was stock. Wondering if it got replaced :)
[15:32] <no1peanut> Hi :) - I seem to have an issue with 13.10 over earlier versions with the layout of php configuration files. It seems like the folder that used to exist /etc/php5/conf.d no longer exist - I have some scripts that use this location. Does anyone know how and why this has changed and if there is a new layout to follow ? (Already asked php guys ... they say it is an ubuntu specific thing)
[15:41] <nuclearnadal> I just installed fresh copy of ubuntu and then it asked for login password and I logged in successfully but when I try to do su in terminal and then try to enter password then it is showing authentication error :-(
[15:41] <nuclearnadal> what to do now please help me
[15:41] <ikonia> nuclearnadal: you don't do "su"
[15:41] <ikonia> !sudo | nuclearnadal
[15:41] <nuclearnadal> ikonia: how to open root in terminal ?
[15:42] <nuclearnadal> root account*
[15:42] <ikonia> nuclearnadal: you don't, you use sudo and read the links just provided
[15:42] <jack> nuclearnadal, sudo su -
[15:42] <ikonia> no
[15:42] <ikonia> you don't do that
[15:42] <jack> :P
[15:42] <ikonia> jack: it's not funny giving bad/wrong advice
[15:43] <nuclearnadal> okay ikonia ,
[15:43] <vininim> why is is bad? sudo su - saves typing on subsequent commands
[15:43] <jack> bad/wrong? it's terribly useful, for smart people
[15:43] <ikonia> jack: no, it's really not
[15:44] <Coryn> uniq < a > a  .. will that conflict or is the change correctly saved a?
[15:44] <ikonia> vininim: it can mess up your environment as it will put temporary files/session files in /root - which you can't access when you are not root.
[15:44] <vininim> erm
[15:45] <Rory> Coryn: Best way is probably to try it on dummy data
[15:46] <vininim> well, I guess you have a point, since I don't know what user sudo would put on temporary files
[15:46] <vininim> but if it was root, it's the same problem
[15:47] <ikonia> vininim: the point is your exeucuting it as your user with root permissions, the other way is you are root
[15:47] <mernilio> Hi guys!
[15:47] <Rory> The most important thing is to never run Sussudio
[15:47] <Rory> Because that summons Phil Collins
[15:47] <ikonia> vininim: (the bottom line)
[15:48] <mernilio> Correct me if im wrong, but did Obama said Ubuntu today, while visiting Africa today for the Mandela funeral?
[15:48] <sseehh_> http://docs.mongodb.org/v2.2/reference/operator/
[15:48] <mernilio> Im pretty sure he did :-)
[15:48] <ikonia> mernilio: that is nothing to do with this channel
[15:49] <vininim> kind of does
[15:49] <vininim> the choice of the distrbution name
[15:49] <mernilio> ikonia:  except for the namn....
[15:49] <ikonia> vininim: this is a channel for ubuntu linux - support, not "anyone who says the word ubuntu in any context"
[15:50] <jack> lol
[15:50] <vininim> you're write just because of support, because discussing the meaning of ubuntu (starting from choice of naming) is on-topic on ubuntu related :)
[15:50] <Rory> mernilio: Good offtopic chat channels are #ubuntu-offtopic (official) and #club-nomicon (unofficial)
[15:50] <vininim> *right
[15:50] <the_drow> Has anyone encountered the "waiting for more than 60 seconds for network configuration" message on boot?
[15:50] <ikonia> vininim: sorry, I'm not being clear "it is nothing to do with this channel - please drop it"
[15:50] <mernilio> Rory: Thanks! :-)
[15:51] <the_drow> I worked around it by starting up the network-manager after the boot but is there a better fix which can make the message go away.
[15:52] <helmut_> hi
[15:54] <Rory> Hello helmut_
[15:58] <Coryn> vininim: ignore ikonia, he's having a period. What was your question? :)
[16:03] <kevin> hey
[16:04] <daftykins> hi
[16:05] <Guest67270> hello
[16:06] <Guest67270> how connect micromax mmx377g in linux mint
[16:07] <DJones> !mint | Guest67270
[16:07] <usr13> !upstart
[16:07] <ObrienDave> !42
[16:07] <juboba> I've been running mathematica7 for some time. After my upgrade from 12.04 to 13.10 when I run mathematica my X session crashes (this happens with any WM or DE). I'm looking at the Xorg.0.log but I see nothing related. I tried running the X server with xinit or startx to check the console but as soon as I run mathematica it all crashes and I have to REISUB to reboot. Any ideas?
[16:13] <jan>  JOIN <Channel>
[16:13] <glitsj16> juboba: seems to be a confirmed bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1249696 .. several users with nvidia gpu report a fix by upgrading the nvidia drivers
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> juboba: did you upgrade to 12.10, then to 13.04 then to 13.10 using the web, or did you do a clean install of Saucy from CD?
[16:15] <juboba> ActionParsnip, I upgraded to 12.10 and to 13.04 before getting to 13.10
[16:15] <juboba> glitsj16, thanks! I will
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> juboba: cool, just checking :)
[16:17] <Touhou11> juboba: If you're new to the recent versions of Ubuntu, the adverts/tracking can be disabled: https://fixubuntu.com/
[16:17] <Wiz_KeeD> Hello guys!
[16:17] <Wiz_KeeD> A very nice member has chosen to guide me through the proccess of installing ubuntu alongside windows in uefi mode and I don't want to mess up on the partitioning part, can someone give me some extra help just to be sure?
[16:17] <Wiz_KeeD> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2192875&p=12870256#post12870256
[16:18] <mjc> hi
[16:18] <Wiz_KeeD> 20Gb ext4 Ubuntu '/' (mountpoint='/', is where the installer will install ubuntu filesystem... its like Win C:
[16:18] <mjc> where chat about direct connect clients?
[16:18] <daftykins> *GB
[16:18] <Guilt> hello all
[16:18] <Wiz_KeeD> so I set New size (Mib): 20000 Align to: MiB Create as Primary Partition File System: ext4?
[16:18] <Guilt> i'm trying to delete files fast, so i'm asking what's the good way to do it
[16:19] <Wiz_KeeD> ActionParsnip, think you can assist on this one? I trust you more since I know you have experience
[16:19] <Guilt> caveats: it's very process heavy, and i need speed
[16:19] <Guilt> i'm doing something like
[16:19] <mjc> What DC client is bestest?
[16:19] <Guilt> find /mnt/data/$dir -type f -mtime +$TIME -print0 | xargs -0 -n $PARL -P $PROC rm "{}"
[16:19] <juboba> how so Touhou11 ?
[16:19] <Guilt> without the "{}"
[16:19] <Guilt> but the -0 does not work correctly, don't see rm being invoked correctly
[16:21] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone please?
[16:21] <mjc> HEY?
[16:21] <Touhou11> juboba: The latest versions of Ubuntu come with adverts and tracking built-in. But it's possible to disable them if you don't like such features
[16:22] <Wiz_KeeD> nobody? nada
[16:22] <mjc> Any here?
[16:23] <koyetsu> what's up
[16:23] <impradeepy> hello
[16:23] <Rory> Touhou11: Is this like your job or something?
[16:23] <ebhtura_> Guilt: doesn't xargs -0 wait for all its input i.e. the find to complete before forking the rm?
[16:23] <BenZur> hi. I am new to ubuntu. How can I copy data from a smb://bla/ drive to my home folder using bash or a tool (to bulk-process and repeat it easily)
[16:23] <Touhou11> Rory: Why would it be my job? That does not make sense
[16:24] <Gr1m> BenZur: if it is mounted on ~/.gvfs/ it can be copied like any other directory/files
[16:24] <usr13> BenZur: cp should do it.
[16:25] <usr13> BenZur: rsync  as well, I would suppose.
[16:25] <usr13> BenZur: Is the share on a MS-Windows server?
[16:25] <Wiz_KeeD> usr13, do you think  you can help me with partitioning in gparted please?
[16:25] <koyetsu> BenZur since you are copying from a windows machine why not just install samba server share a dir then drag and drop from your windows machine
[16:26] <usr13> Wiz_KeeD: Sure.
[16:26] <Wiz_KeeD> thanks a lot m8!
[16:27] <BenZur> usr13: yes
[16:27] <BenZur> koyetsu, can you explain a bit more pls?
[16:27] <Guilt> ebhtura_: i thought it streamed
[16:28] <Guilt> like, waits for so many values and runs
[16:28] <koyetsu> well since you are using samba that means the files you want are on a windows share. and it sounds like you are working from a shell on linux. why not just install the samba server then have it share out a folder. open it from windows then drag and drop from windows
[16:28] <pip__> hi, I want to use a 3rd hard drive as  a shared ntfs data storage location for ubuntu & win 8.1. Must I shut down & reboot my rig to avoid data loss in win 8.1 or will a restart be okay?
[16:29] <Rory> pip__: Define the difference between "shut down and reboot" and "restart"
[16:29] <pip__> yeah - clear as mud that sorry
[16:29] <Rory> pip__: Do you mean like a hard reboot?
[16:30] <pip__> yeah, or a restart
[16:30] <Rory> pip__: You should make sure the ntfs volume is cleanly unmounted, one way of doing that is shutting down/rebooting properly
[16:30] <Rory> You shouldn't be hard-powering-off your system anyway
[16:30] <koyetsu> one thing to note. when opening a samba share from windows if it asks for a username and pass you will need to put   computername\username in the username dialog so if your linux box it ubuntu and your username is BenZur you would put ubuntu\BenZur for your username
[16:31] <pip__> oh gosh, I meant shoud I select "shutdown" & then fire the rig up again
[16:31] <BenZur> install samba server on the server or is it an application to install locally on the linux desktop?
[16:31] <pip__> or can I select "restart"
[16:31] <koyetsu> you install it on your linux box
[16:31] <pip__> does that make any sense?
[16:32] <mjc> where DC channel?
[16:32] <BenZur> where can I find it? apt-get?
[16:32] <Rory> pip__: you can select restart
[16:32] <pip__> for example, if I select restart from win or Ubuntu  I down have to push the power button to make the rig come on again
[16:32] <koyetsu> yeah it's there i'm not 100% sure of the package name
[16:32] <Beldar> !alis | mjc
[16:33] <Wiz_KeeD> Hello Rory :)
[16:33] <pip__> Rory: thanks that's kind of what I was hoping
[16:33] <pip__> I'm planning to disable hibernation in win 8.1 too
[16:33] <mjc> no work
[16:34] <koyetsu> BenZur are you using a linuz desktop or a server cli?
[16:34] <BenZur> desktop
[16:34] <paracelso> hi
[16:34] <koyetsu> then why are you asking about coping files from a shell?
[16:35] <koyetsu> you should be able to just browse the windows share from the X desktop
[16:35] <BenZur> yes thats possible
[16:35] <BenZur> but how to automatically do this?
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> koyetsu: some (or most) people prefer to use the shell, instead of GUI
[16:35] <BenZur> i cannot use smb:
[16:35] <koyetsu> but not most new users
[16:36] <juboba> I updated the driver
[16:36] <juboba> now I'm getting No screens found from X :(
[16:37] <juboba> I updated the driver from the official privative driver
[16:37] <juboba> should I use the one from the repos?
[16:37] <nuclearnadal> what wrong I am doing here ?
[16:37] <nuclearnadal> sun@sun-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo ./ amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13-4-x86.x86_64.run
[16:37] <nuclearnadal> [sudo] password for sun:
[16:37] <nuclearnadal> sudo: ./: command not found
[16:37] <ikonia> !info ubuntu-zfs
[16:38] <hggdh> nuclearnadal: there is no space between ./ and the file name
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> !find zfs
[16:38] <koyetsu> nuclearnadal remove the space between ./ and amd
[16:38] <d4rkt1m3s> uclearnadal: try using an exclamation point with no spaces.
[16:38] <nuclearnadal> okl
[16:38] <g3org3s> hey all, how can I list the windows shares on my network from ubuntu ?
[16:38] <glitsj16> juboba: use the nvidia-319 package from the repos
[16:38] <d4rkt1m3s> as in !amd-driver*
[16:39] <beandog> g3kk3r: smbtree
[16:39] <glitsj16> juboba: you mentioned earlier you are on 13.10 no?
[16:39] <juboba> glitsj16, yes
[16:39] <juboba> I'm installing the nvidia-319 package
[16:40] <juboba> that should replace the one I just installed with the official installer right?
[16:40] <beandog> er, g3org3s smbtree, or I prefer gigolo
[16:40] <glitsj16> juboba: ok, make sure you purged anything you installed through manually install and you should be fine
[16:40] <nuclearnadal> again same error :-/ sun@sun-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo ./amd.run
[16:40] <juboba> glitsj16, how?
[16:40] <nuclearnadal> [sudo] password for sun:
[16:40] <nuclearnadal> sudo: ./amd.run: command not found
[16:40] <juboba> glitsj16, aptitude is doing that
[16:41] <juboba> It's removing the DKMS module and all that
[16:41] <g3org3s> beandog: and how can i mount the shares please .
[16:41] <g3org3s> ?
[16:41] <beandog> g3org3s: use gigolo
[16:41] <pip__> thanks again, ttfn
[16:41] <Beldar> nuclearnadal, Why are you installing a proprietary?
[16:42] <shams> hello guys , i have an issue on my ram, i am not using any program still its showing most of my ram is in use, is it compiz, if yes how do i uninstall it. screenshot > http://www.pasteall.org/pic/63794
[16:42] <nuclearnadal> Beldar: I want to install driver for my ATI gfx card but I want catalyst control center too
[16:42] <beandog> nuclearnadal: did you rename it to amd.run ?
[16:42] <glitsj16> juboba: not sure, i never used aptitude .. but try to locate something like nvidia-uninstall in your system, i believe the official driver from nvidia has a way to do a clean uninstall
[16:42] <nuclearnadal> beandog: yes I renamed iot
[16:42] <beandog> nuclearnadal: and is it actually in that file
[16:42] <beandog> er
[16:42] <beandog> that directory
[16:42] <nuclearnadal> yes beandog
[16:42] <Beldar> nuclearnadal, proprietary is not supported or advised here.
[16:42] <juboba> glitsj16, you don't use aptitude? what do you use?
[16:43] <beandog> nuclearnadal: is it set as executable?
[16:43] <Ari-Yang> nuclearbob: what graphics card do you have?
[16:43] <nuclearnadal> I have ATI radeon hd6570
[16:44] <nuclearnadal> beandog: let me check whether it is exe or not
[16:44] <glitsj16> juboba: apt-get and synaptic, mainly out of habit, i wasn't infering there's something wrong with aptitude
[16:44] <impradeepy> nuclearnadal: i think you shoul ask in #hardwares
[16:44] <beandog> it's running a binary problem, not a hardware one
[16:44] <glitsj16> juboba: hang on, do you still have the *.run file from nvidia on your machine?
[16:45] <juboba> glitsj16, I use apt-get (supposed it was a shortcut for aptitude)
[16:45] <impradeepy> ok my mistake
[16:45] <juboba> glitsj16, yes
[16:45] <Ari-Yang> nuclearnadal: why do you want to install fglrx? it has terrible 2d acceleration
[16:45] <Ari-Yang> nuclearnadal: and there's a change you could break your system (no graphics at all)
[16:45] <Ari-Yang> after installing it that is
[16:45] <shams> hello guys , i have an issue on my ram, i am not using any program still its showing most of my ram is in use, is it compiz, if yes how do i uninstall it, any help please. screenshot > http://www.pasteall.org/pic/63794
[16:45] <juboba> glitsj16, now mathematica works!
[16:45] <juboba> thanks a lot glitsj16
[16:45] <g3org3s> beandog: thanks alot ^^
[16:46] <beandog> another satisifed customer
[16:46] <shams> :)
[16:46] <glitsj16> juboba: ok, i think you can use 'sudo sh </path/to/NVIDIA-Linux-*.run --uninstall' to purge it before installing from repos
[16:46] <glitsj16> juboba: cool, you're welcome
[16:46] <Wiz_KeeD> Could someone please help me out with partitioning? I am following this guide from a helpful community member and I want to be sure I don't mess things up
[16:46] <Wiz_KeeD> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2192875&p=12870256#post12870256
[16:47] <Wiz_KeeD> I don't get the Free space preceding (MiB) Align to: and all that
[16:47] <beandog> Wiz_KeeD: don't worry about it
[16:47] <beandog> Wiz_KeeD: just go with default settings and you'll be fine
[16:48] <Wiz_KeeD> you sure?
[16:48] <beandog> Wiz_KeeD: completely
[16:48] <Wiz_KeeD> where will hte label come up?
[16:49] <beandog> Wiz_KeeD: you can always set the label, at any time, on any partition
[16:49] <beandog> well, except swap
[16:49] <shams> hello is there anybody who can help me please.
[16:49] <Wiz_KeeD> beandog, I see...it did not ask me anything about mount point...
[16:50] <Wiz_KeeD> I started gparted in the live cd...should I use the one in the installer?
[16:50] <beandog> Wiz_KeeD: well, yah, that's a different part of your os.  What are you trying to do, if I may ask
[16:50] <Ari-Yang> nuclearnadal: if you insist on installing fglrx, then by all means, go on ahead... But I warn you that your system is most likely going to break. I'm curious to find out why you want to install it anyway...
[16:50] <beandog> Wiz_KeeD: yah, use the installer.
[16:50] <Wiz_KeeD> It's all in the thread beandog
[16:50] <stormy98_> ikonia: i've got boot live cd in place, i've looked and /dev/mapper/nagios-vg-root exisits and is lsym linked to ../../dm-0
[16:50] <beandog> Wiz_KeeD: tl;dr :)
[16:50] <doomlord_> anyone know off hand how well ubuntu runs on a surface pro 2
[16:50] <Wiz_KeeD> tl dr? too long...doctor? XD
[16:50] <beandog> Wiz_KeeD: didn't read
[16:50] <Wiz_KeeD> haha ok
[16:51] <Wiz_KeeD> intall ubuntu alongside windows in uefi crap
[16:51] <stormy98_> it's a mint live cd, i run a integrity and all come back ok
[16:51] <Wiz_KeeD> ubuntu does not recognise ubuntu and I get a lot of wierd stuff in the bootloader when I mak fix
[16:51] <beandog> Wiz_KeeD: oh, uefi? then I dunno man, never done it.  There could be some funkiness there.
[16:51] <shams> hello is there anybody who can help me please ?
[16:51] <Wiz_KeeD> there is a lot of funkiness
[16:52] <beandog> :(
[16:52] <beandog> sorry man
[16:53] <Beldar> shams, State the issue to the channel for help.
[16:55] <shams> Beldar, i am sorry, i am new to this chat too, i guess i am in the ubuntu channel no ?
[16:55] <dougl> shams, what do you run?
[16:55] <shams> Xchat
[16:55] <Pici> !ask
[16:55] <dougl> what version of linux
[16:56] <shams> hello guys , i have an issue on my ram, i am not using any program still its showing most of my ram is in use, is it compiz, if yes how do i uninstall it, any help please. screenshot > http://www.pasteall.org/pic/63794
[16:56] <shams> 12.04
[16:56] <beandog> shams: it's probably just reserving it.  It's fine.  don't worry about it.
[16:56] <beandog> If your swap starts getting used a lot, *then* you have a problem.
[16:57] <Ari-Yang> shams: what DE/flavor are you using?
[16:57] <shams> DE/flavor ?
[16:57] <beandog> shams: yah, looked at your pic ... you are totally fine.
[16:57] <Ari-Yang> !DE > shams
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> shams: bit weird how its running 4 times
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> shams: you are only using 600Mb RAM and zero pagefile
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> shams: free -m   is a bit mre readable (megabytes)
[16:59] <shams> shams@ubuntu:~$ free -m
[16:59] <shams>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[16:59] <shams> Mem:          3886       3292        594          0       1131       1345
[16:59] <Pici> don't paste here.
[16:59] <maujhsn> Does anyone know why "ubuntu-12.04"creates two entries for "cdrom" in settings>Repositories>Other Sortware of the synaptic package manager?
[17:00] <shuvarek> hello, how to add another user to sudoers?
[17:00] <beandog> shuvarek: visudo
[17:00] <shams> ActionParsnip, thank you, i am glad i am ok, I was worried because i can not render a scene in blender it crashed due to memory issu.
[17:00] <Pici> shuvarek: easiest method is to add them to the sudo group.
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> shams: sudo usermod -a -G sudo username
[17:00] <beandog> oh, that too.
[17:01] <Pici> shuvarek: or admin group, if you are on an older release of Ubuntu
[17:01] <shuvarek> yes I did the second (add to sudo group) and still not work
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> shuvarek: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Allowing_other_users_to_run_sudo
[17:01] <Pici> shuvarek: That user will need to log back in for the changes to take effect.
[17:01] <beandog> uh not really
[17:01] <shuvarek> Pici:  thaks, will try
[17:01] <beandog> you could do su - username
[17:01] <beandog> or
[17:01] <beandog> wait
[17:01] <beandog> is that it?
[17:01] <FloodBot1> beandog: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:02] <beandog> yah that was right.
[17:02] <beandog> logging back in is easier though
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> beandog: su only swiutches user, it does not give it sudo access
[17:02] <beandog> ActionParsnip: it does solve the problem of getting you into your new groups
[17:03] <beandog> but only for that console session
[17:03] <beandog> not desktop
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> beandog: absolutely, a full log off and log in is needed, just as in windows
[17:03] <beandog> you just use su to switch to your own user
[17:03] <beandog> ActionParsnip: agreed, I'm just being pedantic.
[17:04] <shuvarek> beandog:  sorry I haven't use windows for years, but yes I will relog myself to see the effect
[17:04] <shuvarek> thanks everyone
[17:04] <Wiz_KeeD> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2192875&p=12870256#post12870256 can anyone vouch for this method, using gparted first then ubuntu installer?
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> beandog: you're better off than I: i'm arrogant
[17:04] <beandog> MonkeyDust: heh.  we all have our faults I guess.
[17:04] <Wiz_KeeD> Also does anyone know why Windows does not detect the operating system? but it has in the past?  same notebook same configuration *God knows what changed until then*
[17:04] <beandog> MonkeyDust: I'm so used to explaining how to answer a specific question.
[17:05] <beandog> MonkeyDust: not filtering it through a desktop point-of-view
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> beandog: np duder :)
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: do you mean, since you made a dual boot you cannot boot windows?
[17:09] <maujhsn> join #xchat
[17:10] <beandog> /join
[17:11] <imghost> guys please help i am using 12.04.3lts i do not why my copy dialog got frozen, but file is copying i did reboot but same frozen copy dialog boz
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> imghost: better use rsync --progress to copy large files
[17:14] <beandog> rsync ftw
[17:15] <imghost> ok,thankyou i was copying from windows to ubuntu using lan by sharing public folder
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> imghost: look into socket options in smb.conf too, they can make things nicer :)
[17:16] <dougl> would a raid configuration make my disk access faster?
[17:16] <beandog> if it was striped
[17:16] <beandog> which is ... pretty dangerous raid level.
[17:16] <beandog> one drive dies, all your stuff goes poof
[17:16] <imghost> ok. will try good to know and learn the suggestions thanku all
[17:17] <dougl> enuff said... was just following a baked thot thanks
[17:17] <dougl> beandog, thanks
[17:19] <Sven_vB> are there possible reasons left for EMFILE when ulimit reports limits far higher than the number of open descriptors known to lsof, or should i distrust the error reporting of EMFILE?
[17:20] <SwashBuckla> hi there. I appear to have fudged up my installation of precise -- speficially the Xorg stuff. What is needed to run the normal Unity/Gnome desktop? xserver-xorg-core, xorg, xserver-xorg-synaptics (for my touchpad)... Anything else?
[17:21] <tuxedo> hello
[17:21] <tuxedo> everyone here
[17:21] <nicknack> hi guys, for some reason, tap to click wont work on ubuntu. I've added the option for it in the 50-synaptics, but it still wont work. how can i get around this?
[17:21] <Sven_vB> SwashBuckla, the package description of unity should know all of its dependencies.
[17:21] <nicknack> currently running ubuntu minimal, 13.10
[17:22] <technologov> hi ! I have 2 X11 drivers installed. fbdev and fbturbo on ARM
[17:22] <technologov> how-to figure out which one is active ?
[17:22] <tuxedo> I have a sign on update
[17:22] <tuxedo> telling me is outdate some respository
[17:23] <tuxedo> how i correct this?
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> tuxedo: what repo would that be?
[17:23] <daftykins> tuxedo: ok, but please keep your queries to one line
[17:23] <mijn> how can i query for packages depending only on packets from supplied list?
[17:24] <k1l> tuxedo: run "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get upgrade" in a terminal and put the whole output into a pastebin please
[17:24] <miketomdool> nicknack if you go into mouse and touchpad settings there is a checkmark there. have you tried that yet?
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> mijn: try apt-cache search | xargs [your file with the list]
[17:25] <SwashBuckla> Sven_vB: ok, so installing Unity shows that I already have all of it's dependencies. So something else is causing X login not to go through to Gnome
[17:25] <nicknack> miketomdool: where exactly is it?
[17:25] <SwashBuckla> Sven_vB: any ideas what that could be?
[17:25] <tuxedo> ok
[17:26] <mijn> MonkeyDust, i don't think you understood my question
[17:26] <allstarsnorks2> Hello guys
[17:26] <mijn> MonkeyDust, or at least that's not the answer
[17:26] <Sven_vB> SwashBuckla, check the xsession error log
[17:26] <ihsw> hey, when i try to do apt-get update i get this "W: GPG error: http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"
[17:26] <usr13> SwashBuckla: What did you do?
[17:26] <mjc> Why search no work in DC Client on the hubs?
[17:26] <usr13> SwashBuckla: What did you do?
[17:26] <allstarsnorks2> Just asking, do you know of any programs that I can make a Live ISO off my current build?
[17:27] <xen> Hi, I was wondering if anyone can tell me if I can install OpenCL for my graphics card (AMD Radeon HD) without actually using the proprietary graphics drivers? (The FOSS ones are much nicer)
[17:27] <usr13> Sorry, I was backed up in the buffer.
[17:28] <usr13> !touch | SwashBuckla
[17:28] <allstarsnorks2> brb going to #linux
[17:28] <tuxedo> Hit http://repo.steampowered.com precise InRelease
[17:28] <tuxedo> Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com saucy InRelease
[17:28] <tuxedo> Hit http://repo.steampowered.com precise/steam Sources
[17:28] <tuxedo> Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates InRelease
[17:28] <tuxedo> Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net saucy InRelease
[17:28] <tuxedo> Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com saucy InRelease
[17:28] <FloodBot1> tuxedo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:29] <beandog> well that stinks
[17:29] <miketomdool> nicknack i don't know where it's at on unity (i use gnome) let me look it up for you one second
[17:29] <SwashBuckla> usr13: I seem to have installed a bunch of xorg-dev stuff and libgl stuff and it has apparently broken post-login X loading
[17:29] <SwashBuckla> usr13: I get to the usualy Ubuntu 12.04.2 login screen (I seem my username, I can pick my display manager etc)
[17:30] <SwashBuckla> usr13: but when I enter my password and hit enter, the screen goes black and I get kicked back to the login screen again in a loop
[17:30] <ihsw> anyone have any idea why i'm getting GPG error BADSIG?
[17:30] <tuxedo> Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports InRelease
[17:30] <tuxedo> Ign http://archive.canonical.com saucy InRelease
[17:30] <tuxedo> Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-security InRelease
[17:30] <tuxedo> Hit http://repo.steampowered.com precise/steam amd64 Packages
[17:30] <FloodBot1> tuxedo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:30] <usr13> SwashBuckla: Sounds a lot like wrong user or password
[17:30] <SwashBuckla> usr13: this is not the case.
[17:31] <GEEGEEGEE> Anyone know how I can boot the live CD from USB on a AMD based system? Im getting dropped to a busybox prompt
[17:31] <SwashBuckla> usr13: it must be to do with gfx/display code
[17:31] <usr13> ihsw: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-the-ubuntu-gpg-error-badsig.html
[17:31] <GEEGEEGEE> ive changed SATA stuff to ACHI and it still does it
[17:31] <GEEGEEGEE> and checked the hash of the ISO file
[17:31] <SwashBuckla> usr13: I am using the problematic laptop on my usual user account to talk to you right now
[17:31] <Beldar> !sum | GEEGEEGEE
[17:31] <Beldar> !md5sum | GEEGEEGEE
[17:31] <SwashBuckla> usr13: Only I am using framebuffer (tty1) instead of X (tty7)
[17:32] <GEEGEEGEE> I have checked that Beldar
[17:32] <usr13> Have to leave for a while.  Sorry...
[17:32] <Beldar> GEEGEEGEE, Ah I see that now, how are you loading the usb?
[17:32] <impradeepy> swashbuckla:are you able to see you login screen?
[17:32] <GEEGEEGEE> I used UltraISO, and unetbootin
[17:32] <GEEGEEGEE> both do the same thing
[17:33] <GEEGEEGEE> I get the purple loading screen, and then dropped to a busybox prompt
[17:33] <Beldar> GEEGEEGEE, I would check that computer model and the release on the web, amd should not be an issue per-say, if you have the correct iso.
[17:33] <ihsw> usr13: yeah that doesn't work
[17:33] <diverdude> Hello. i have added this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~takluyver/+archive/matplotlib-daily  and run apt-get update. How do i then install matplotlib from that ppa afterwards?
[17:34] <Beldar> GEEGEEGEE, The bit correct 32 or 64?
[17:34] <GEEGEEGEE> I built it myself, and im using the 64bit desktop version
[17:34] <Beldar> GEEGEEGEE, fresh build, has it been working?
[17:34] <tuxedo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6552204/
[17:34] <GEEGEEGEE> ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[17:34] <GEEGEEGEE> yeah it works fine with Windows, but I need Linux on it now
[17:34] <SwashBuckla> impradeepy: yes
[17:35] <SwashBuckla> impradeepy: try hitting <TAB> after typing Swash
[17:35] <Beldar> GEEGEEGEE, UEFI?
[17:35] <GEEGEEGEE> yeah
[17:35] <diverdude> anyone?
[17:35] <Beldar> !uefi | GEEGEEGEE check this
[17:35] <impradeepy> SwashBuckla, show me the output of cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[17:36] <nicknack> sorry about that, still haven't gotten the tap to click working.
[17:36] <SwashBuckla> I am not using lightdm.
[17:36] <geirha> diverdude: apt-get install nameofpackage
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> diverdude: better ask the maintainer s/he'll know best
[17:36] <SwashBuckla> impradeepy: I use either xmonad or Gnome
[17:36] <SwashBuckla> impradeepy: oh wow what? Light DM
[17:36] <geirha> diverdude: In this case, the package name is matplotlib.  You can check which package will be installed by running  apt-cache policy matplotlib  first
[17:36] <SwashBuckla> impradeepy: it's in there. One second, just grabbing pastebinit
[17:37] <Stumph> Hello
[17:37] <GEEGEEGEE> yeah I have read that as well Beldar, I cant actually get it to boot to the point where any of it is useful
[17:37] <SwashBuckla> impradeepy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6552228
[17:37] <GEEGEEGEE> my bios has no option for safeboot
[17:37] <Beldar> GEEGEEGEE, Not sure myself.
[17:38] <nicknack> i edited the 50-synaptics file and added tapbutton 1 1 to it, the proper way of course, and afte ra reboot it still wont work
[17:38] <tuxedo> helloo??
[17:38] <miketomdool> nicknack try gnome-control-center then mouse and touchpad
[17:38]  * beandog waves to tuxedo 
[17:39] <Beldar> GEEGEEGEE, Might be worth looking through this thread. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[17:39] <MonkeyDust> GEEGEEGEE: it's either UEFI or BIOS
[17:39] <nicknack> miketomdool: doesn't look like the touchpad option is there
[17:39] <Pici> tuxedo: Floodbot1 is a bot, please direct your questions to the channel.
[17:40] <SwashBuckla> impradeepy: what's up doc?
[17:40] <tuxedo> I've already did
[17:40] <impradeepy> SwashBuckla, output is ok, once again start lightdm type sudo service lightdm start
[17:40] <Pici> tuxedo: Then repeat the entire questions and your pastebin link, in one line please.
[17:41] <SwashBuckla> impradeepy: Job is already running
[17:41] <impradeepy> SwashBuckla, and then check cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[17:41] <nicknack> miketomdool: there is no touchpad option o.o
[17:41] <simong> I've set my ulimit settings but when I do cat /proc/<pid>/limits I still get a low value for my pid
[17:41] <simong> I've restarted the service after bumping the ulimit settings
[17:42] <SwashBuckla> impradeepy: /usr/sbin/lightdm
[17:42] <k1l> tuxedo: in you paste you can see that some PPAs are not available anymore. get rid of them with ppa-purge
[17:42] <impradeepy> SwashBuckla, perfect no problem in lightdm
[17:43] <impradeepy> SwashBuckla, please show me the snap of your login screen
[17:43] <ihsw> noone have any other ideas? "W: GPG error: http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"
[17:44] <impradeepy> SwashBuckla, and during login select ubuntu as a default
[17:44] <SwashBuckla> impradeepy: how?
[17:44] <impradeepy> go to imgur.com
[17:44] <SwashBuckla> how do I do a screenshot that is
[17:44] <SwashBuckla> impradeepy: I can't
[17:44] <nicknack> any other ways of getting tap to click to work?
[17:44] <SwashBuckla> impradeepy: I can't log in
[17:44] <SwashBuckla> all I have is my laptop
[17:44] <tuxedo> give the command to do
[17:44] <tuxedo> give me the command to do it
[17:45] <k1l> !ppa-purge | tuxedo
[17:48] <tuxedo> hello???
[17:48] <Pici> tuxedo: hi
[17:49] <impradeepy> SwashBuckla, which graphic card are you using?
[17:49] <SwashBuckla> impradeepy: radeon something something
[17:49] <SwashBuckla> how do I find out?
[17:50] <SwashBuckla> Radeon 7550M
[17:50] <impradeepy> SwashBuckla, did you install proprietary drivers??
[17:50] <SwashBuckla> impradeepy: no idea
[17:51] <impradeepy> SwashBuckla, did you install anything from additional drivers??
[17:51] <SwashBuckla> impradeepy: ah, yes. I did
[17:51] <SwashBuckla> impradeepy: A graphics driver. It was working fine
[17:51] <tuxedo> hi pici
[17:52] <tuxedo> hi Pici
[17:52] <impradeepy> SwashBuckla, i think its conflicting with other modules
[17:52] <Pici> tuxedo: Do you have a question about the instructions you were given?
[17:53] <impradeepy> SwashBuckla, deactivate it from additional drivers
[17:53] <SwashBuckla> impradeepy: how? I am in console
[17:53] <Beldar> SwashBuckla, This an optimus?
[17:54] <SwashBuckla> Beldar: you have not been following the conversation
[17:54] <SwashBuckla> Beldar: scroll up.
[17:54] <Beldar> SwashBuckla, I rebooted and just logged in.
[17:54] <Beldar> smat ass
[17:54] <SwashBuckla> Beldar: nevermind then
[17:55] <IdleOne> Beldar: Please watch the name calling, remember the Code of Conduct :)
[17:55] <Beldar> hehe sure, quite accurate none the less
[17:56] <dougl> is my iphone supposed to be able to be recognized on my 13.10 install with virtualbox hosting osx?
[17:57] <impradeepy> SwashBuckla, show me the output of cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:57] <icewalker> any ideas why i get this error message on setting up the printer?
[17:57] <icewalker> There was an error during the CUPS operation 'client-error-request-value-too-long'
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> how long do pasts last on paste.ubuntu.com please?
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> *pastes
[17:58] <SwashBuckla> impradeepy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6552326
[17:58] <Beldar> ActionParsnip, 15 min I think
[17:58] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: afaik forever
[17:58] <denysonique> How can I get my tray icons back in 13.10?
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> ah
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/240587 :D
[17:58] <icewalker> any ideas ho i can fix this printer problem?
[17:58] <icewalker> s/ho/how/
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> icewalker: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[17:59] <icewalker> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> icewalker: and what make and model printe? and how does it connect to the system?
[17:59] <icewalker> hp laserjet 4l
[17:59] <impradeepy> SwashBuckla, replace glx with radeon
[18:00] <icewalker> connect to via network jetdirect
[18:00] <tuxedo> yes
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> icewalker: do you have the latest HPLIP?
[18:01] <tuxedo> yes Pici
[18:01] <icewalker> note that is working fine when i set it up using a usb boot version of ubuntu
[18:01] <Pici> tuxedo: you need to ask them, then. We aren't psychic.
[18:01] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: I believe you (or they) can email rt@ubuntu.com but don't expect a quick removal
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: sweet, ty :)
[18:01] <icewalker> how can i tell if i have the latest hplip or not?
[18:01] <tuxedo> Pici, this is I want to resolve
[18:02] <tuxedo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6552204/
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> icewalker: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/hplip/hplip-3.13.11.run; chmod +x ./hplip-3.13.11.run; ./hplip-3.13.11.run
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> icewalker: wget at the start, to download the file
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> icewalker: run it as your user (hence no sudo)
[18:02] <icewalker> ok
[18:03] <glitsj16> denysonique: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/how-to-get-systray-whitelist-back-in.html .. i can confirm this also works for 13.10
[18:03] <denysonique> glitsj16: thanks, how up to date is that patched Unity?
[18:04] <denysonique> compared to 13.10 Unity?
[18:04] <glitsj16> denysonique: it is the same unity as in official repos + the patch
[18:04] <ihsw> can someone help me? i can't run apt-get update because of this "W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"
[18:05] <SwashBuckla> impradeepy: hi. changing to "radeon" and trying the login caused a black screen and I rebooted
[18:05] <SwashBuckla> now it won't get to login screen
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> ihsw: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5
[18:05] <ihsw> ActionParsnip: yeah that times out
[18:06] <ihsw> ActionParsnip: "gpg: requesting key 437D05B5 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com"
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> ihsw: then use a different keyserver
[18:06] <ihsw> ActionParsnip: can you be more specific? i've never run into this issue before so i don't know how to do that
[18:06] <veter> ПРИВЕТ ВСЕМ
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> ihsw: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver pgp.mit.edu 40976EAF437D05B5
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> ihsw: I couldnt be more specific without spoonfeeding you the EXACT command
[18:07] <JoBArTe_Skuld> hi guys
[18:07] <impradeepy> SwashBuckla,now  show me the output of cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> ihsw: see how the bit of the command definingthe keyserver was different? That's what 'try a different keyserverver' means
[18:07] <ihsw> ActionParsnip: i don't know any of hte keyservers, so that's why i asked
[18:07] <ihsw> ActionParsnip: *any other keyservers
[18:07] <JoBArTe_Skuld> is possible to modify a apt-get do display on screen similar to yum? https://gist.github.com/joubertredrat/7658575
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> ihsw: nobody is born knowing, a quick websearch will find you lotxz
[18:08] <impradeepy> SwashBuckla, problem is  radeon is not loading due to its conflicts with fglrx
[18:09] <MotherMGA> So it looks like the screencloud application was dropped in ubuntu 13.10.  Whats the supported application for taking screenshots and uploading to imgur now?
[18:09] <SwashBuckla> impradeepy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6552378
[18:09] <ihsw> ActionParsnip: oh, i didn't know about the hkp protocol, it's on port 11371 right?
[18:09] <SwashBuckla> impradeepy: so I just unload flgrx?
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> ihsw: download, and search keys either through HKP on port 11371    source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_server_%28cryptographic%29
[18:10] <impradeepy> SwashBuckla, http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-drivers-fglrx
[18:10] <SwashBuckla> impradeepy: can you use tinyurl on that?
[18:10] <impradeepy> sure
[18:10] <SwashBuckla> (please(
[18:10] <impradeepy> hold on
[18:11] <SwashBuckla> I am just at my CLI :)
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> ihsw: ask the internet instead of asking me....it knows more than me
[18:11] <SwashBuckla> I could probably do something with Emacs Relay Chat but I don't know how to use that
[18:13] <impradeepy> SwashBuckla, tinyurl.com/ccdpfjt
[18:14] <icewalker> ActionParsnip: it failed to detect/setup the printer toward the end of the installion run, what's next?
[18:14] <Beldar> MotherMGA, I see two web pages on getting it working in 13.10 again  would you like them?
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> icewalker: have you tried http://localhost:631
[18:14] <icewalker> will try that
[18:14] <impradeepy> SwashBuckla, before installing, please read this http://tinyurl.com/7h2ulhc
[18:15] <SwashBuckla> thanks impradeepy
[18:15] <icewalker> can't connect to it, maybe cups is not running?
[18:16] <MotherMGA> Beldar: Sure.  Is it still the "best application" for that type of thing?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> icewalker: sounds likely
[18:17] <MotherMGA> I used to use Lookit back in 12.04, but it hasn't been updated in a long time.
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> icewalker: sudo service cups restart
[18:17] <impradeepy> SwashBuckla, ok, but do tell me the results and also why did you install proprietary drivers i am also using amd radeon i did not need that
[18:17] <MotherMGA> Normally ubuntu doesn't drop support for something unless there is a replacement application - so I was wondering if it has changed.
[18:18] <icewalker> it said cups is already running
[18:18] <usr13> icewalker: Then:  localhost:631
[18:18] <icewalker> but i still can't connect to webservice on port 631
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> icewalker: tried a reboot
[18:18] <usr13> icewalker: ... from your favorite browser.
[18:19] <icewalker> i have tried both chrome and firefox
[18:19] <Beldar> MotherMGA, Not sure on what is best, same basic git info on these http://askubuntu.com/questions/365543/screencloud-problem-ubuntu-13-10  http://www.joeferguson.me/screencloud-issues-with-ubuntu-13-10/
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> icewalker: the browser doesnt matter, if there is nothing to connect to then ANY browser will fail
[18:20] <usr13> icewalker: grep Listen /etc/cups/cupsd.conf   #Tell us what that says.
[18:20] <Beldar> MotherMGA, I was not aware there was an app like this as well, never used it.
[18:20] <kbrosnan> icewalker: you will need to whitelist the port on Firefox
[18:20] <icewalker> Listen localhost:631
[18:21] <icewalker> Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock
[18:21] <MotherMGA> I think shutter is the officially supported screenshot application, but its horrible.
[18:21] <usr13> icewalker: service cups status   #What does that say?
[18:21] <SwashBuckla> impradeepy: I am heading off now, I'll let you know of the results
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> icewalker: i'd just reboot
[18:21] <impradeepy> SwashBuckla, good luck
[18:22] <icewalker> it shows cups status process is running. will try rebooting it
[18:22] <kbrosnan> icewalker: http://www-archive.mozilla.org/projects/netlib/PortBanning.html
[18:24] <asteroid> ciao a tutti
[18:25] <asteroid> list
[18:27] <xen> Could anyone give me some help with my drivers?
[18:27] <xen> I'm trying to enable my AMD Radeon HD graphics card while having Xorg running with FOSS drivers
[18:28] <xen> I've installed the AMD OpenCL developer libraries
[18:28] <xen> but not it says that none of my devices are enabled :(
[18:28] <xen> *now
[18:28] <xen> What do I do?
[18:29] <impradeepy> xen:http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-drivers-fglrx
[18:29] <Deep6> Hey guys has there been a bad update or something....I'm getting no permissions to modify network settings and sound etc
[18:30] <xen> impradeepy: Ah, but that's the thing. I don't want to install the video drivers, I just want OpenCL running off my GPU. I still want to keep my Xorg running on the FOSS drivers
[18:30] <usr13> Deep6: From _______________ ?  and _____________?
[18:32] <impradeepy> xen:are you using dual gpu?
[18:32] <usr13> Deep6: grep Deep6 /etc/group  #See if you are in apropriate goups
[18:36] <DarkAceLaptop> is there a map program that I can use without an internet connection?
[18:36] <DarkAceLaptop> for linux, of course
[18:39] <El_Chingador> How do you install mspaint on linux
[18:39] <bazhang> !appdb | El_Chingador
[18:40] <bazhang> check the appdb then join #winehq El_Chingador
[18:42] <causative> when I right-click on the launcher icon for gedit (to lock it to the launcher), everything freezes until I kill gedit
[18:42] <causative> this problem does not occur for other applications
[18:44] <kostkon> causative, tried reinstalling it? maybe something's wrong with its desktop file
[18:46] <Channing_mileys_> hi yall
[18:46] <kostkon> Channing_mileys_, hi
[18:46] <Channing_mileys_> so what makes Linux so awesome
[18:47] <Channing_mileys_> thats a retoricle question cause i know it sucks ass
[18:47] <icewalker> not thing changes after rebooting, still having the same problem. can't connect to localhost:631
[18:47] <icewalker> any other ideas?
[18:49] <diverdude> Hello. i have added this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~takluyver/+archive/matplotlib-daily  and run apt-get update. How do i then install matplotlib from that ppa afterwards?
[18:50] <kostkon> diverdude, what version are you on?
[18:50] <diverdude> kostkon: 12.04
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> diverdude: "For questions and bugs with software in this PPA please contact Thomas Kluyver."
[18:51] <Pici> diverdude: There are no precise packages for matplotlib on that ppa.
[18:51] <Deep6> crap sorry I just disconnected after someone was trying to help
[18:52] <Deep6> I am getting an error failed to add/activate connection ti on from network manager
[18:54] <DX099> hello, I'm trying to have my GPG public keys synchronized but each time I try to do so, I get an "server is unwilling to perform" error...
[18:55] <tulliana> hey
[18:55] <tulliana> hole hoi
[18:55] <icewalker> there seem to be problem with ubuntu printer setup program. no matter what printers i tried to setup i also this cups error 'client-error-request-value-too-long'
[18:55] <tulliana> *hola
[18:57] <tulliana> where are Jono Bacon?
[18:57] <jono> tulliana, http://ubuntuonair.com/
[18:57] <tulliana> oww
[18:57] <Giles1> Hi, how can i change my keyboard map in remmina from US to UK? for VNC connections.
[18:58] <tulliana> hi jono
[18:58] <tulliana> how are you?
[18:58] <zotune> Anyone familiar with the timeout killing /sbin/modprobe … etc error when booting from USB stick?
[19:00] <nep1x> hi! Is anyone here able to connect from ubuntu 12.04 using smbclient to a macbook pro? I ve spend the hole afternoon trying it but no way. At the end I connect to the mac's share folder using AFP protocol
[19:06] <dynamike> anyone know if something is up with http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ ?
[19:06] <Joe_B> nep1x, I know it's not exactly answering your question, but I've always been fond of sshfs.
[19:07] <vivy> hola soy nuevo en esto
[19:07] <deezed> dynamike: what do you mean?
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> !es | vivy
[19:08] <irc-5225225> Anyone know of some command line programs to organise music into subfolders? Tagging them from online databases would be prefered but not required.
[19:08] <vivy> ok Thank you
[19:08] <tulliana> damn..
[19:09] <deezed> irc-5225225: uhm, you can write a script to do so, I think
[19:10] <irc-5225225> deezed: In that case, I'm assuming there's a library to read ID3 tags in python
[19:10] <irc-5225225> oh well, i'll look around
[19:10] <deezed> irc-5225225: thats cool! so
[19:11] <deezed> irc-5225225: just think about something like that:
[19:12] <daninoz> Hi guys, I have a problem with my system. Everytime I load it, it shows many windows that say "System program problem detected". I close the windows and I don't have much other issues, but that at the start is annoying.
[19:12] <deezed> irc-5225225: if the_artist_u_want*; then mkdir artist_folder & cp artist_u_want* artist_folder; fi
[19:12] <jennie> can you please help me in installing this driver in http://support-in.canon-asia.com/contents/IN/EN/0100459601.html ubuntu 13.10 ?
[19:13] <irc-5225225> deezed: Preferably using format strings, so I can do %author/%album/%title
[19:14] <irc-5225225> deezed: Python seems to be the best choice for that, just need to find a library that can read the tags.
[19:14] <daftykins> jennie: what's the exact printer model, please?
[19:14] <irc-5225225> deezed: Or even a command line utility, and I read the output. It's really hacky but I don't care.
[19:14] <deezed> irc-5225225: yes, it will be nice.. tell me if you make it after all
[19:14] <jennie> daftykins it is canonlbp2900B
[19:14] <irc-5225225> deezed: I could put it up in GH if you want.
[19:14] <deezed> irc-5225225: I'm not sure if python is the best for that, but go ahead
[19:15] <deezed> irc-5225225: yes, sure!
[19:15] <irc-5225225> deezed: Python is mainly the only language that I know, and it seems to be the best if you are writing scripts to do a specific function.
[19:15] <daftykins> jennie: take a look here at where a very similar file is used to do the same http://askubuntu.com/questions/364121/how-to-install-the-printer-driver-for-canon-image-running-2520-in-ubuntu-13-10
[19:15] <irc-5225225> which I am.
[19:16] <deezed> irc-5225225: indeed, but since you are working with your own directories, maybe a shell script can do the match
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> irc-5225225: maybe the people in #bash can help better
[19:17] <irc-5225225> deezed: oh well. Can't really be bothered to mess around with shell scripts. I'm sure you could do it in 1 line of shell though.
[19:17] <beandog> agreed
[19:18] <deezed> irc-5225225: shell is not that far from python, if you know python already, I think in 2 days learning shell you will make the script you need
[19:19] <irc-5225225> deezed: But python's cleaner, imo. In the end, it doesn't really matter.
[19:19] <deezed> irc-5225225: yes, that's true.
[19:20] <glitsj16> daninoz: that's apport throwing those messages at you, but you can disable it in /etc/default/apport
[19:20] <deezed> irc-5225225: the only point that in shell you have all the commands like 'mkdir' and 'cp' just there for you use it, in python you will have to import somethings.. which is not a big deal... ;)
[19:20] <jennie> daftykins that driver will work for my printer too ?
[19:20] <irc-5225225> deezed: os.subprocess()
[19:21] <irc-5225225> or, just os.mkdir()
[19:21] <daftykins> jennie: stick to the download from the page you linked to, but follow things in the same way
[19:22] <knightshade> Hello
[19:22] <deezed> irc-5225225: yes, sure! anyway, tell us when you have it done! it will be a nice one
[19:22] <daftykins> jennie: did you download Linux_CAPT_PrinterDriver_V260_uk_EN.tar.gz yet?
[19:23] <knightshade> irc-5225225: easytag can
[19:23] <knightshade> oops
[19:24] <irc-5225225> yeah, I did say command line.
[19:24] <knightshade> easytag can sort your mp3s into subfolders
[19:24] <irc-5225225> but it's not command line.
[19:24] <jennie> daftykins  yes I already did
[19:24] <irc-5225225> from what I can tell
[19:25] <daftykins> jennie: ok so did you extract it successfully?
[19:25] <jennie> yes
[19:25] <daftykins> jennie: and have you looked at the file structure and noticed there are some .deb files in a 32-bit and 64-bit folder?
[19:26] <jennie> yes daftykins
[19:26] <daftykins> jennie: did you try first installing the 'common' .deb? do you know if you're 32 or 64-bit?
[19:26] <jennie> I am at 64bit
[19:26] <knightshade> irc-5225225: Yes, but it works. If you want to waste your time with writing a shell script, no problem. :-)
[19:27] <daftykins> jennie: so you should be able to double click on the cndrvcups-common_2.60-1_amd64.deb file?
[19:27] <daninoz> glitsj16, thanks. That worked.
[19:28] <jennie> daftykins I didnt have to do some commands in terminal before double clicking .deb file ?
[19:28] <daftykins> jennie: no, you can try it this way
[19:29] <nvrpunk> when I am manually adding a username to /etc/sudoers and /etc/init.d/sudo restarting, its still not allowing them to sudo
[19:29] <nvrpunk> any idea why?
[19:29] <daftykins> nvrpunk: they need to be a member of the right group
[19:29] <irc-5225225> knightshade: But it's not command line, and no, it wouldn't work for my needs. It's not a waste of time.
[19:30] <deezed> knightshade: 'waste your time' was a bit rude, anh? anyway writing a script is always nice to learn and make another one...
[19:30] <Pici> nvrpunk: /etc/init.d/sudo doesn't do what you expect it to do.  Its not something you need to touch ever.
[19:30] <grep0r> jennie, if any debi or something is installed yes double click otherwise use dpkg -i nameof.deb plus let me know you are at debian os or ubuntu (it's not the same)
[19:31] <Pici> nvrpunk: Have you logged out and logged back in with that user since making your change?
[19:31] <nvrpunk> so if they are in the sudo group
[19:31] <nvrpunk> it should just work
[19:31] <nvrpunk> right?
[19:32] <nvrpunk> or do i still need to add the user to the /etc/sudoers
[19:32] <daftykins> grep0r: already looked into it, it's supported on Ubuntu
[19:32] <Pici> nvrpunk: You don't need to touch /etc/sudoers if you put the user in the sudo group.  The user will need to logoff and log back in for any group membership changes to take effect though.
[19:33] <grep0r> daftykins, which one ati's driver?
[19:33] <daftykins> jennie: ok i just gave it a try myself, what happened for you on trying to double click the .deb for common?
[19:33] <daftykins> grep0r: we're talking printers here :D
[19:33] <dynamike> I am seeing 'BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5' when running 'apt-get update' against http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates
[19:33] <daftykins> grep0r: jennie's query i am referring to
[19:33] <jennie> it is opening software center
[19:34] <daftykins> jennie: did it work for you? it crashed for me in my VM, i ended up installing them via command line instead
[19:35] <jennie> I installed it in my ubuntu by software center
[19:35] <daftykins> jennie: ok now do the same with the other .deb
[19:36] <jennie> okay I just did
[19:36] <grep0r> daftykins, if you have cups why need caps :)
[19:36] <xen> Hmmm
[19:37] <xen> Anyone know how to force Xorg to generate an xorg.conf?
[19:37] <xen> It's not running with one, but I need to adjust how it functions :S
[19:37] <daftykins> jennie: ok now open firefox and browse to "localhost:631" and click "Adding printers and Classes" in the middle
[19:38] <daftykins> jennie: then login with your username + password, then click 'Add Printer' top left
[19:38] <jennie> ok
[19:38] <usr13> xen: no
[19:38] <usr13> xen: What video driver are you using?
[19:39] <Nothing_Much> I have a question, my web browsers keep redirecting me to mobile websites.
[19:39] <usr13> xen: What is your video card?  lspci
[19:39] <Nothing_Much> What do I do?
[19:39] <daftykins> jennie: you should have an 'Add Printer' page now which has "Local Printers:" - click the radio button beside 'CAPT Printer'
[19:39] <jennie> ok daftykins
[19:39] <jennie> it is asking connection
[19:40] <daftykins> jennie: yep now type in that box 'ccp://localhost:59687'
[19:40] <daftykins> jennie: on the next page type any name, description and location you want for it
[19:40] <Nothing_Much> What do I do when my web browsers keep redirecting me to mobile websites? I'm on Xubuntu 13.10 on Armhf.
[19:40] <dynamike> hmm now I can't resolve us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com
[19:41] <jennie> ok daftykins
[19:41] <jennie> and what about make ?
[19:41] <deezed> Nothing_Much: which web browsing are you using btw?
[19:41] <Nothing_Much> deezed: So far there's two, which are Chromium and Firefox
[19:42] <deezed> Nothing_Much: both are doing this?
[19:42] <DarkAceLaptop> is there a map program that I can use without an internet connection?
[19:42] <Nothing_Much> deezed: Yes
[19:42] <daftykins> jennie: select Canon then the button below, it should give you a list of printers
[19:43] <jennie> my printer is not in the list  , mine is LBP900B and it have LBP2900 only
[19:43] <daftykins> jennie: down the list will be "Canon LBP2900 CAPT ver.1.5 (en)"
[19:43] <daftykins> jennie: yes in printer terms they are not 100% specific
[19:43] <deezed> Nothing_Much: I'm not sure what can do that actually.. but you could try to use an extension in firefox.. see if with adblock it still happens
[19:44] <daftykins> jennie: it will be a driver for the entire range of that model #. now click add printer and there will be some final settings to choose
[19:47] <karamel4e> Nothing_Much, does this happen with different browsers
[19:47] <Nothing_Much> karamel4e: Yes, maybe because I'm on armhf?
[19:48] <daftykins> jennie: you can try printing a test page with CUPS now, or just try printing from an application - any luck?
[19:48] <jennie> trying to print
[19:49] <daftykins> jennie: it's connected directly via USB, yes?
[19:49] <jennie> yes
[19:49] <daftykins> good good
[19:52] <cookie> i have no idea what im doing Ș)
[19:52] <cookie> :Î
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> cookie: start by describing what you have done so far
[19:53] <jennie> daftykins it is not printing test page
[19:53] <daftykins> jennie: click 'Printers' in the CUPS webpage then look at what the status says on the right
[19:53] <cookie> i have managed somehow to get this far and install irssi now just working out how to use it :)
[19:54] <daftykins> jennie: or click on the printer name on the left and it will show its' jobs
[19:54] <MonkeyDust> cookie: just stay here and follow, you'll learn :)
[19:54] <daftykins> jennie: the default paper size was 'Letter' instead of A4, so make sure the printer display isn't asking a question
[19:54] <cookie> Nice one, thanks
[19:54] <jennie> daftykins how to open cups page again /
[19:55] <daftykins> jennie: localhost:631 in firefox
[19:55] <eoo> hi
[19:56] <jennie> state of job ' cant connect to CCPD : connection refused;
[20:00] <Guest96286> hi..have a problem with printer connected to my ubuntu after ink refill....anyone got experience?
[20:00] <HungrymaN_> is it a network printer?
[20:00] <Guest96286> yes
[20:01] <HungrymaN_> what type of problem? just not printing?
[20:01] <caver1> If I want to use the lastest stable MonoDevelop v4.2.1 under Ubuntu 13.10 is my only option to download source and compile?
[20:01] <kostkon> caver1, or find a ppa
[20:02] <Guest96286> the printer itself says low ink because it was a home made ink refil...thats just a setting of the printer manufacturer. It is overridden on the windows but the override doesnt register with ubuntu
[20:02] <cordyceps> where do I find "startup applications"? been all through the menu. can't find it. Lubuntu-13.10 w/ LXDE wm.
[20:02] <Guest96286> grasping at straws i guess
[20:02] <HungrymaN_> hmmm... maybe it would be good to just delete the old printer and add it again. shouldn't take more than a minute or two with a networked printer
[20:03] <caver1> Thanks,  no luck with ppa so far!
[20:03] <Guest96286> d'oh....you know, thats a fairly obvious answer that my small mind couldnt grasp....
[20:03] <Guest96286> thanks a lot man...the little things eh?
[20:03] <Guest96286> lol...
[20:05] <HungrymaN_> np
[20:05] <nvrpunk> ok so the users are authenticating via tacacs
[20:05] <nvrpunk> so sudo doesnt work
[20:05] <nvrpunk> Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication infopasswd: password unchanged
[20:05] <rb2k> The following packages cannot be authenticated!: libpq5 libpq-dev
[20:05] <nvrpunk> and if they do passwd
[20:05] <nvrpunk> that happens
[20:05] <rb2k> anything wrong with the apt mirrors?
[20:07] <Rev_Icon> ™
[20:07] <eoo> apt-get update maybe
[20:07] <rb2k> nah, happens on every server launch
[20:07] <eoo> or missing gpg keys?
[20:07] <rb2k> :-/
[20:08] <rb2k> official ubuntu repo
[20:08] <rb2k> all other packages seem fine
[20:08] <jjmalina> anyone having trouble with apt-get on amazon ec2?
[20:08] <jjmalina> looks like DNS isn't resolving for http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com
[20:09] <daftykins> jjmalina: change the mirror?
[20:10]  * HungrymaN_ not using ubuntu but linux mint instead
[20:10] <cordyceps> where do I find "startup applications"? been all through the menu. can't find it. Lubuntu-13.10 w/ LXDE wm.
[20:11] <kostkon> cordyceps, have you checked in lxde's control center?
[20:12] <nvrpunk> how can i make users who auth with tacacs able to sudo?
[20:12] <kostkon> cordyceps, 'session settings' maybe, if there is one
[20:12] <cordyceps> kostkon: got it, thanks!
[20:13] <kostkon> cordyceps, np
[20:15] <Beldar> cordyceps, It may be empty if so let us know there is a command to show the apps that start.
[20:19] <cordyceps> Beldar: it's not empty. The thing is, since upgrading from .04 I notice there's no more screen saver. Installation instructions on the web dont consider the lxde option.
[20:19] <clocKwize> does anyone know of an article on trimming all the fat out of ubuntu 13.10?
[20:19] <rb2k> jjmalina: we have troubles with that mirror
[20:19] <rb2k> not about resolving though
[20:19] <clocKwize> like what stuff is good to remove
[20:19] <rb2k> although we've had that over the last few days
[20:20] <jjmalina> rb2k: it works fine for my work machine but not that ec2 instance I'm on. I can't even curl it
[20:20] <rb2k> yeah, from within ec2
[20:20] <rb2k> we've seen that over the last few days
[20:21] <rb2k> we do run quite a few instances though, so the sample size helps with noticing these things break
[20:22] <adam_____> what's the best way to share screens remotely for pair programming?
[20:22] <adam_____> needs to work on windows as well
[20:22] <adam_____> our company has a 50/50 mix of ubuntu and windows machines
[20:22] <cordyceps> web seems to think evahbuddy usin gunome
[20:23] <zim> Hi all. I am trying to install 13.10 64 Server on a HP micro Server and keyboard locks up as second lang select screen. Any Ideas?
[20:24] <FAT> where i can find "softwar sorce" on ubuntu 13.10
[20:24] <adam_____> remote pairing software. What's the best option?
[20:25] <eoo> FAT
[20:26] <eoo> click on the "start"
[20:26] <FAT> yes
[20:26] <eoo> type in software
[20:26] <eoo> it should be there
[20:26] <eoo> or type gksudo software-center
[20:26] <eoo> into terminal
[20:26] <aaargh> URGENT HELP PLEASE i did not save a file in libreoffice writer after  working on it for hours. it was a new file. is it possible to recover it?
[20:27] <FAT> i make this i type softwar on the dash but dont apeir
[20:28] <eoo> erm
[20:28] <eoo> try
[20:28] <eoo> sudo apt-get install -y software-center
[20:28] <mnemon> aaargh: i think it should use some temp files, but not sure where it save the stuff if you didn't save it even once ...
[20:29] <aaargh> mnemon: thank you for giving me hope. how to look for this temp file?
[20:30] <zim> aaargh: /tmp?
[20:30] <FAT> yes, but i have to reinstall ubuntu becaus i broke ubuntu for the 4 time for the nvidia driver
[20:31] <aaargh> but what am i looking for?
[20:31] <aaargh> it was a new file
[20:31] <OerHeks> aarcane_, look in Libre Office >  see: "Tools → Options → LibreOffice → Paths → Backups" for the location of your backup >> http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/6652/how-to-recover-former-version-of-document/?answer=6655#post-id-6655
[20:32] <netzapper> what mechanism does Ubuntu use to automatically mount removable disks? I ask because I want to interrupt that mechanism, for specific disks if possible (using udev?), or for the entire system if necessary.
[20:32] <OerHeks> aaargh, if there is nothing, expensive lesson to turn on backups or save it manually
[20:34] <netzapper> oh wait... is the auto-mounting only done on desktop machines? Or does ubuntu server also automount media?
[20:36] <hisham> hello brother please What is the best system backtrack or Kali-linux ??
[20:36] <kostkon> !poll | hisham
[20:37] <Pici> hisham: This channel is for Ubuntu, which is neither of those.
[20:37] <aaargh> there is nothing in backups
[20:37] <aaargh> OerHeks: there is nothing in backups
[20:37] <hisham> ok ok im sorry
[20:37] <aaargh> OerHeks: but there many file in /tmp
[20:38] <aaargh> OerHeks: where should it be exactly?
[20:40] <Sven_vB> (j Node.js
[20:41] <gregor3005> hi, is anybody able to install wtp in eclipse? when i install it removes all the new project abilities from the eclipse menu
[20:41] <adam_____> anybody programming using ubuntu as the destop os?
[20:41] <adam_____> desktop
[20:41] <gregor3005> i use the wtp repo: http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/repository/indigo/
[20:42] <adam_____> I need to know how to do remote pairing
[20:43] <netzapper> adam_____: what is remote pairing?
[20:43] <Nemo__> 1
[20:43] <adam_____> netzapper: google "pair programming"
[20:44] <netzapper> adam_____: oh. That kind of "pairing". Yeah, sorry... I don't swing that way, and I don't tolerate it in my shop.
[20:45] <CheckDavid> Can one install ubunto on any android phone?
[20:45] <CheckDavid> *ubuntu
[20:45] <netzapper> CheckDavid: no.
[20:45] <CheckDavid> At least on most?
[20:45] <usr13> !phone | CheckDavid
[20:45] <netzapper> CheckDavid: on only a very few phones. Like, 3 to 5 models, tops.
[20:46] <ArielX> anything new in ubuntu yet
[20:46] <CheckDavid> Because it was optimized specifically for those few models?
[20:46] <CheckDavid> http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android
[20:46] <CheckDavid> I read this, but it confused me
[20:46] <CheckDavid> and the slogan is:"I n every dual-core phone, there’s a PC trying to
[20:46] <CheckDavid> get out."
[20:47] <CheckDavid> Sort of made me think it would work on most new android phones
[20:47] <ArielX> lol
[20:47] <netzapper> CheckDavid: they are marketing that to cellphone manufacturers. You cannot install anything on most android phones. The ones that do work with the developer builds of Ubuntu for phone are those handful of phones that are either shipped completely unlocked and reflashable, or have been totally owned by the hacker community.
[20:48] <CheckDavid> Oh I see
[20:48] <michael_> whats up guys
[20:49] <netzapper> CheckDavid: yeah. It confused me too at first. I figured it could be made to run on most phones, given root and NAND unlock. But, phones are all so different that it really only works on the most open and well-characterized of phones at the moment.
[20:49] <CheckDavid> I see.
[20:49] <CheckDavid> Thanks.
[20:49] <welcome> hii all
[20:50] <CheckDavid> It would be beautiful if ubuntu could run as an app on android completely virtualized or something
[20:50] <CheckDavid> hehe
[20:50] <zim> Hi all. I am trying to install 13.10 64 Server on a HP micro Server and keyboard locks up as second lang select screen. Any Ideas?Google says use a PS2 keyboard but the microserver has only usb ports
[20:51] <netzapper> CheckDavid: many things in thought are beautiful that are impossible to realize in practice. :(
[20:51] <melkor> How do I stop this mlocate.db from running so often.
[20:52] <wica> Hi, I get this on a fresh install 13.10
[20:52] <wica> W: GPG error: http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[20:53] <adam_____> netzapper: that's too bad
[20:54] <adam_____> netzapper: we also do mobbing and have "caves"
[20:54] <adam_____> very effective in situations when core pieces are being developed
[20:55] <S0NiC> Hi
[20:56] <kostkon> S0NiC, hi
[20:56] <xangua> !gpgerr | wica
[20:57] <wica> ubottu: nop, fresh install
[20:57] <netzapper> adam_____: ::shrug:: I make games. If I have two programmers (and I only have one now), the last thing I want them doing is both staring at the same screen. I understand in other industries, where code is kept forever and money and lives depend on quality, the metric is different. But for me, it's wasteful.
[20:57] <welcome> while running saucy from live dvd, after sometime when dvd spining gets silent (maybe totally at rest)...if I open any app or give any command then dvd spin for a moment and then sounds like its stuck reading any sector kindof sound like click of death in hdd's....but I checked the live disk at boot and it says disk is totally fine
[20:57] <wica> xangua: Nop, after a fresh install
[20:58] <dtcrshr> hello everyone. I just installed ubuntu 12.04 lts 64 on my new dell 5437 inspiron notebook. Iv booted ont he ubuntu live with no hassle, and installed just fine. but after reboot the screen is all messed up, i can hear the welcome sound, but impossible to use
[20:58] <dtcrshr> is there any way to fix the video ?
[20:58] <dtcrshr> i cant user ctrl alt f(x), no terminal is prompted, only a messy image
[20:58] <Beldar> !nomodeset | dtcrshr
[20:59] <dtcrshr> thanks, ill read it up Beldar
[20:59] <Beldar> welcome, What is the end goal with the dvd?
[21:00] <adam_____> netzapper: it's totally up to you, it doesn't, however, mean that it's not effective. Depends on who you employ: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ExtremeProgrammingForGames
[21:00] <Beldar> welcome, Sounds more like the reader really.
[21:00] <welcome> Beldar: nothing, I was just trying out saucy and dvd got stuck everytime asking if its a saucy problem or something else
[21:00] <welcome> Beldar: you mean disk drive ?
[21:00] <adam_____> netzapper: I still need effective screen sharing for Ubuntu :)
[21:01] <Beldar> welcome, Not seen anything as described with saucy, have you summed it, and yes the disk drive.
[21:01] <netzapper> adam_____: you and me both. :)
[21:02] <S0NiC>  Short question: i try to send via mdadm if my SW-Raid fails. mdadm --monitor --scan --test --oneshot works finde, but if i try to set a disk failed with mdadm --manage --set-faulty /dev/md1 /dev/sda2 i got no mail...
[21:02] <S0NiC> any ideas why?
[21:02] <S0NiC> +email
[21:02] <wica> xangua: apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5, say no change.
[21:03] <xangua> wica: use sudp
[21:03] <xangua> sudp
[21:03] <xangua> sudo
[21:03] <deezed> xangua: lol
[21:04] <schultza> Growl @ default file manager and nemo. My GUI file browser keep asking for my network password (samba) over and over again. I know it's right, I've recently updated it and it works on the command line.
[21:05] <guntbert> schultza: nautilus does the same here - I switched to nemo
[21:08] <fedgalaxy> Hello, I want a confirmation about file extensions under Ubuntu. Do I need to write the extension of a given file or I just need to open a file and write any code such as : html, pyhton, css ...etc and Ubuntu will automatically detect which file is !
[21:09] <dtcrshr> Beldar, Iv setup the nomodeset on the grub, but now instead of the odd images I get a simple black screen, any other suggestions?
[21:10] <schultza> guntbert: I'm having the same issue with nemo right now.
[21:10] <schultza> Is there a location where the passwords are saved?
[21:11] <guntbert> schultza: probably :-)  but I have no idea where
[21:12] <kmyst> can't believe i'm having this problem....but does anybody know how to mount/edit a boot.img from an iso file? i've extracted it but it won't mount via loopback
[21:13] <irc-5225225> kmyst: I don't think you need to extract iso files.
[21:13] <irc-5225225> kmyst: You mount the iso file, i think
[21:13] <alan_> hola
[21:13] <kmyst> irc-5225225: nonono...i need to edit the boot image of the iso
[21:13] <Jordan_U> kmyst: What is your end goal?
[21:13] <alan_> speak spanish?
[21:14] <irc-5225225> kmyst: So what I'm assuming is that there's a file on the iso called boot.img?
[21:14] <Jordan_U> !es | Guest47274
[21:14] <irc-5225225> if that's what you're talking about
[21:14] <irc-5225225> kmyst: what command did you use to mount as loopback?
[21:14] <kmyst> Jordan_U: end goal is i need to tweak it and rewrite it
[21:15] <Jordan_U> kmyst: That's not an end goal, that's one step toward an end goal. Why do you want to tweak and rewrite it?
[21:15] <kmyst> irc-5225225: yes, it's an eltoritio bootable image, specifically one with no emulation, hence it's 2048 bytes big and mount -0loop boot.img /mnt fails
[21:15] <kmyst> Jordan_U: heh, ok...i need to modify the batch file that runs when the cd boots
[21:17] <Jordan_U> kmyst: Still not an end goal. Why do you want to "modify the batch file"? (And keep asking yourself "why" until you get to the *end* goal).
[21:17] <kmyst> Jordan_U: and while i can extract the image from the iso and/or disc, i'm running into a situation where i can't mount it (i surmise since it's no emulation and not floppy or hard disk emulation)
[21:17] <Sazpaimon_> what do I have to delete to make an ubuntu install clean? I want to make an AWS AMI from my server, but I dont want to leave any logs, user data, etc on the image
[21:17] <Sazpaimon_> just the new packages I installed, and some configuration files, and that's it?
[21:18] <usr13> kmyst: You can't mount the iso image?
[21:19] <irc-5225225> kmyst: I don't think mount supports mounting those types of images
[21:19] <kmyst> Jordan_U: because the silly batch file has a typo and won't load one of the three installers
[21:19] <kmyst> usr13: yes i can mount the image
[21:19] <irc-5225225> kmyst: wait, what? You just said you couldn't.
[21:19] <usr13> kmyst: oh ok.
[21:19] <Jordan_U> kmyst: So what problem are you actually having? What happens when you try to boot?
[21:19] <kmyst> irc-5225225: i said i can't mount the boot.img extracted from it
[21:20] <usr13> irc-5225225: he did.... but I guess that's not what he meant.
[21:20] <irc-5225225> ah, ok
[21:20] <usr13> kmyst: file boot.img
[21:20] <usr13> kmyst: What does that say?
[21:21] <usr13> kmyst: Try gimp
[21:21] <kmyst> Jordan_U: ok the batch file works like this: press a for booting os installer X, press B to boot os installer Y, press C to boot os installer Z...
[21:22] <kmyst> usr13: it says it's data :)
[21:22] <usr13> kmyst: Ok.
[21:22] <guntbert> usr13: why gimp?
[21:22] <kmyst> that's what i was thinking.....
[21:23] <usr13> kmyst: Because I thought it was an image, (a graphical image).
[21:23] <kmyst> usr13: nope it's a boot image
[21:23] <kmyst> usr13: eltorito standard
[21:23] <Jordan_U> kmyst: Normally at boot you see a menu and you move through that menu using arrow keys rather than pressing a single key to select an entry. Is this the menu that you're taling about? Also, to be clear, Ubuntu installation media doesn't contain any "batch files".
[21:23] <usr13> I was thinking like a splash screen... :0
[21:25] <_87xman> Hi all! Can you help me? I've got a little bit RAM option hardver problem.
[21:25] <kmyst> Jordan_U: *sigh* no this is a custom disc DOS style that has three distros on it...
[21:26] <_87xman> Please help me.
[21:26] <guntbert> !patience | _87xman
[21:26] <Jordan_U> kmyst: So you're not working with the standard Ubuntu install images. You should make that clear from the beginning. We can't really help much with figuring out how other people generated their iso images and thus how to edit them.
[21:27] <usr13> _87xman: So here is how it works. You ask a question.  Someone on here that may know an answer will tell you so.  Sometimes you get lucky.
[21:27] <_87xman> I've got 2 -  4 GB DDR III 1600 Mhz Kingston memory. But in BIOS CL time is a bit wrong.
[21:27] <_87xman> I use 32 bit
[21:28] <usr13> Jordan_U: Thank you, (I was wondering what an intellegent reply would look like :)
[21:28] <Jordan_U> kmyst: If you'd like to make such a disk using standard tools, like grub or syslinux, then you'll be able to find a lot of help in #grub and #syslinux.
[21:28] <usr13> *intelligent*
[21:29] <_87xman> works 7,9 GB but not too much faster.
[21:29] <kmyst> Jordan_U: right it isn't but this is just general CLI stuff, i.e. isoinfo -d -i file.iso will tell you a lot of nice info about the image, dd to extract the boot image, etc. etc......basically mundane *nix stuff
[21:29] <_87xman> because the RAM is fine.
[21:31] <Jordan_U> kmyst: Except that most of the time what you'll find in such an el torido disk image is just executable code, with configuration files being read from files on the iso9660 filesystem. You can't mount an executable, and since we don't know the tools that created this boot.img (it's not any of the standard *NIX bootlaoders), we can't really help you figure out how to modify it.
[21:32] <usr13> kmyst: file file-name  #What does it say?
[21:32] <_87xman> My motherboard is Asrock N68C-GS FX . And My Memorys Kingston KVR16N11S8/4. Please help me for Bios Setup. I use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with Cinnamon desktop.
[21:32] <kmyst> usr13: boot.img: data
[21:33] <usr13> kmyst: (You told me it said data  Yea...) so....?
[21:33] <kmyst> Jordan_U: point taken
[21:33] <usr13> kmyst: So isoinfo -d -i  is not going to help
[21:33] <kmyst> usr13: nope it just tells me what i know already
[21:34] <_87xman> CL time promlem. I think you are very well hardware set up.
[21:34] <eduhat> I've got a vnc server running on a VPS with a public IP. I can telnet to 5901 locally, but why not accross the internet? iptables is shutdown
[21:35] <guntbert> _87xman: saying a sentence every minute is not going to get you answers sooner - nobody will read them all
[21:35] <guntbert> !enter | _87xman
[21:37] <kmyst> usr13: I think Jordan_U had a point that it's just executable code which kinda makes sense since the boot image isn't say emulating a bootable floppy disk
[21:37] <_87xman> My motherboard is Asrock N68C-GS FX . And My Memorys Kingston KVR16N11S8/4. Please help me for Bios Setup. I use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with Cinnamon desktop.CL time promlem. I think you are very well hardware set up.works 7,9 GB but not too much faster.Can you help me? I've got a little bit RAM option hardver problem.
[21:37] <eduhat> I can ssh into the box and everything, but trying to VNC fails.
[21:39] <jdogherman|work_> How do I setup a Dynamic DNS with bind?
[21:39] <usr13> eduhat: From ______________ ?
[21:40] <usr13> jdogherman|work_: named ?
[21:40] <eduhat> I am usr13 from my local pc
[21:40] <jdogherman|work_> usr13?
[21:40] <jdogherman|work_> usr13: what?
[21:41] <schultza> resolved my samba in gui (files/nemo/etc) issue. Under smb.conf, I had to set security = user. This resolved both the window that keeps popping up to get my username/workgroup|domain/password combo.
[21:41] <usr13> jdogherman|work_: named is a Domain Name System (DNS) server, part of the BIND distribution
[21:41] <schultza> and being to browse the network when I have a samba server running on the local computer.
[21:42] <guntbert> schultza: thx for reporting success
[21:42] <jdogherman|work_> usr13: could I then connect that to my Cisco ASA5505 DHCP server?
[21:42] <schultza> guntbert: Your welcome. I knew you had a similar issue.
[21:43] <dtcrshr> Iv set on my /linux boot inside grub iv added the nomodeset, and managed to get inside the system. Then I activated on jockey the nvidia driver, sounds promissing but now on reboot ubuntu keeps showing me the windows about "log graphic mode"
[21:43] <usr13> jdogherman|work_: Ok, I'm not at all sure what your question is.
[21:43] <dtcrshr> is there a way to use ubuntu 12.04 with newer notebooks, with intel and nvidia gt740m vgas?
[21:44] <dtcrshr> log = low
[21:44] <jdogherman|work_> usr13: I use a Cisco ASA 5505 to act as a DHCP server, I have Bind working on my ubuntu server. I want new clients to register with my ubunutu server and update bind
[21:50] <Op> hi
[21:51] <kostkon> Op, hi
[21:51] <Op> You can speak English?
[21:52] <guntbert> Op: Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:52] <Op> Yea
[21:53] <spence> how do i reset the logon screen to it's default settings (gdm)
[21:56] <eTronik> Hi all, whats the supposed best place to install  apps manually  - it's a python app: http://sourceforge.net/projects/wikidpad/
[21:56] <lar4> Hi
[21:56] <kostkon> !find wikidpad
[21:56] <S0NiC> eTronik: maybe /opt
[21:57] <eTronik> not /usr/lib ?
[21:58] <lar4> How can I create tiny links?
[21:58] <S0NiC> eTronik: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[21:59] <Guardian1> grant all privileges on \`phpBB\`.* to 'phpBB'@'localhost';
[21:59] <subz3r0> OT > lar4
[21:59] <Guardian1> whats wrong with that?
[21:59] <subz3r0> !OT > lar4
[21:59] <subz3r0> !OT | lar4
[21:59] <eTronik> S0NiC, nice
[21:59] <lar4> I have a bug with ALSA and google led me to this patch to fix it. how can i do the patch?  https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound.git/commit/?id=ae24c3191ba2ab03ec6b4be323e730e00404b4b6&id2=5c0ee9497b33cde3e57460efe4f73313dc0b57a3
[21:59] <beto61904> hello
[22:00] <beto61904> boaring
[22:00] <kostkon> eTronik, zim and cherrytree are very similar to wikidpad
[22:01] <eTronik> kostkon, are they multiplatform ?
[22:01] <zim> kostkon: Sorry what?
[22:03] <kostkon> eTronik, if by multiplatform you mean windows, then yeah
[22:03] <kostkon> zim, nvm
[22:03] <w0rmie> is there a way to debootstrap ubuntu mini and what's its http location?
[22:04] <Sloppsta> hello guys im having wifi issues on ubuntu 12.04 with lxde is anyone else experiencing this or knows of a fix?
[22:04] <schultza> Sloppsta: What kind of issues. We need more details, please.
[22:05] <Sloppsta> it keeps cutting in and out and is extremley slow. 50kbps slow. i have an edimax usb adapter and the n routher is only 15 feet away
[22:06] <Sloppsta> i found their driver on edimaxs website. i tried to build it but ran into some error. completley new to linux so my head is hurting lol
[22:06] <schultza> What build error did you get? If possible, create a pastebin.com article for us.
[22:07] <schultza> or paste.ubuntu.com article
[22:07] <belgianguy> Hi, xsane and simple-scan all crash with a segfault on 13.10
[22:07] <belgianguy> on 13.04 and earlier they worked though
[22:07] <Sloppsta> sec
[22:07] <belgianguy> (with the same hardware)
[22:08] <zim> Sloppsta: IMHO there are plenty of wifi cards that just work(tm) on ebay for peanuts not worth the agro
[22:08] <schultza> zim: You're assuming he has time/money to wait for a new one. :)
[22:09] <zim> In this situation time could be a factor money not so much .
[22:11] <lar4> I have a bug with ALSA and google led me to this patch to fix it. how can i apply patch?
[22:11] <eden_> i wanted whenever i start gnome-terminal perform a command and i've gone to settings of the gnome-terminal and here that says open with a command instead of a shell, i typed the command that i wanted.Now when i try to open the terminal it opens for the blink of the eye.How can i fix that?
[22:12] <Guardian1> sudo for files in config.php cache files store images/avatars/upload/; do chmod 777 $files; done
[22:12] <Guardian1> -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
[22:12] <Guardian1> whats wrong with that command?
[22:12] <mrj> What are those bundled packages that got popular with ubuntu called again? Like it'll be an entire LAMP/LEMP stack . kind of like bitnami stuff
[22:13] <mrj> I think it was an acronym
[22:13] <mrj> ah PPA
[22:15] <Sloppsta> http://pastebin.com/qg08HGDM
[22:16] <dtcrshr> can anyone help me? I just installed ubuntu. on the live boot the system works like a charm, but after reboot I got a blank screen or flickering screen. Iv set nomodeset on grub to get into the system, but I cant make the video work permanently
[22:16] <dtcrshr> im on a del inspiron 5437, with intel and nvidia gt 740m
[22:17] <eden_> I want whenever i open my terminal,perform a specific command.How can i do that?
[22:21] <knightshade> eden_: just adding the command to your .bashrc should work
[22:22] <eden_> knightshade, where the .bashrc is located?
[22:22] <knightshade> eden_: echo "some command" >> ~/.bashrc
[22:23] <eden_> knightshade, with the "?
[22:23] <knightshade> eden_: it's a hidden file in your home folder
[22:23] <knightshade> eden_: press ctrl+h in your file manager to see hidden files
[22:25] <eden_> knightshade, thanks
[22:26] <eden_> knightshade, but with the locate command it doesn't give me any location to my home folder
[22:28] <eden_> I have to say Ubuntu 13.10 looks really neat!
[22:28] <lar4> I have a bug with ALSA and google led me to this patch to fix it. how can i apply patch?
[22:31] <knightshade> eden_: it should be there if you haven't deleted it :-)
[22:34] <adam_____> How do I share my desktop with others for pair programming?
[22:35] <eden_> adam_____, search for desktop sharing
[22:36] <eden_> adam_____, i am using 13.10 and i have it
[22:36] <adam_____> eden_: most don't allow control of other desktop.. Also must work between Linux<->Windows
[22:36] <adam_____> maybe that last part is a nice to have
[22:37] <eden_> adam_____, you can control other's desktop
[22:38] <Highest5> Hey guys I'm running ubuntu 12.04 32-bit and want to install the 64-bit version. I have it on a live disc and already have my disk partitioned. ubuntu itself is only taking up about 20gb. I just want to replace the 32-bit with the 64. When I'm doing the install, do I just delete the partition sda1 (the ubuntu partition) and add another one for the 64 bit?
[22:38] <eden_> adam_____, it doesn't work with linux-windows
[22:39] <Ice_Strike> What is this for: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jcfp/ppa
[22:40] <eden_> adam_____, did you tried skype?
[22:41] <bjensen82> my isp has given me 4 ips. How to I let  ubuntu know of them?
[22:41] <eden_> echo df -h
[22:42] <john_doe_jr> What are test updates?
[22:42] <k1l> Ice_Strike: that adds a 3rd party repo to your ubuntu
[22:43] <Highest5> Anyone know about reinstalls without completely wiping the hard drive?
[22:46] <zim> bjensen82: sent you a sample
[22:47] <bjensen82> zim: so its an up statement for each ip i have?
[22:47] <bjensen82> Zim: I only have one nw card
[22:47] <zim> So do I look all point at eth0
[22:47] <SnowRaptor> Hey there!
[22:48] <SnowRaptor> In how much trouble will I be if I download a kernel from kernel.org and use make oldconfig with the default 12.04 .config file?
[22:50] <Guest76495> ciao a tutti
[22:50] <jhutchins> SnowRaptor: It would be an interesting experiment.  You would lack the debian/ubuntu kernel patches.
[22:51] <Ice_Strike> Does Ubuntu Server come with GUI?
[22:51] <k1l> Ice_Strike: no. just CLI
[22:51] <k1l> that is why its called server
[22:52] <Ice_Strike> Cool
[22:53] <Ice_Strike> Is there Ubuntu Server Mini?
[22:54] <k1l> Ice_Strike: i think you mean netinstall?  the server is quite mini
[22:54] <SnowRaptor> jhutchins, thet's more or less the point. I'm trying to get rid of a video bug
[22:54] <Ice_Strike> sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found
[22:54] <Ice_Strike> Why?
[22:59] <wiricus> I had some trouble installing OpenSCAD, gave unmet dependencies error. Is this because I only have ubuntu 10.04 and not 12.xx
[23:00] <xangua> !find add-apt-repository | Ice_Strike
[23:00] <k1l> wiricus: the desktop version is EOL for 10.04
[23:00] <k1l> !eol | wiricus
[23:00] <daftykins> ^she's dead.
[23:00] <wiricus> oh crap. so i should definately upgrade?
[23:01] <kostkon> wiricus, it's time to upgrade
[23:01] <kostkon> wiricus, yes
[23:01] <wiricus> rgr
[23:01] <wiricus> is that likely the source of that error then?
[23:02] <kostkon> wiricus, no idea, you havent given us any extra info
[23:02] <beandog> wiricus: most likely
[23:02] <camilo> hola soy colombiano coy nuevo en ubuntu
[23:02] <beandog> !es | camilo
[23:02] <beandog> camilo: bienvenido :)
[23:03] <k1l> wiricus: i suggest it doesnt matter if it is the error or not. you need to upgrade anyway.
[23:04] <camilo> no ayuda no solo quiero conocer estos espacios
[23:04] <camilo> alguien de otro pais que hable español
[23:05] <kostkon> camilo, this is an english only channel
[23:05] <k1l> camilo: english in here only, please
[23:05] <wiricus> alright thanks.   And -$ sudo apt-get upgrade should Take car of this, no?
[23:05] <k1l> camilo: you were already told, #ubuntu-es is a spanish channel
[23:05] <k1l> wiricus: see the bots message
[23:06] <wiricus> eerr, what bot, srry
[23:06] <beandog> wiricus: not you
[23:07] <k1l> !eol | wiricus
[23:07] <k1l> wiricus: ^
[23:07] <wiricus> rgr
[23:11] <wiricus> okay. upgrading. wish me luck.
[23:11] <wiricus> adios
[23:11] <john_doe_jr> hey what are test updates?
[23:14] <travis> Hey everyone
[23:15] <Guest33436> just a quick question if you are only booting ubuntu like me, when u boot up what does it do?
[23:19] <buntu__> ahhhh the usual silence of IRC :)
[23:21] <k1l> LNegative: can you rephrase?
[23:22] <Highest5> anyone have any ideas on 12.04 32-bit vs 64-bit?
[23:22] <gordonjcp> Highest5: get 64-bit, unless you want this Skype thing
[23:22] <beandog> use 64-bit if you have 4+ GB of RAM
[23:22] <beandog> or plan to
[23:22] <Highest5> I do use Skype
[23:22] <Highest5> I have 4 gb of ram
[23:22] <gordonjcp> hm
[23:23] <bekks> Use 64bit whenever you have 64bit hardware.
[23:23] <beandog> gordonjcp: really? skype doesn't run?
[23:23] <gordonjcp> beandog: no idea, I don't use it, but it seems to be deeply problematic
[23:23] <beandog> does Ubuntu ship with 32-bit compat libraries?
[23:23] <Highest5> but I only use skype for text chat
[23:23] <beandog> gordonjcp: I wouldn't be surprised
[23:23] <gordonjcp> I don't really see the point of skype
[23:23] <aeoril> I installed Ubuntu 13.10 in a Windows 8.1 Hyper-V VM as the guest OS.  The first time I did the install, I selected to install updates during install.  After installation, when I went to check on my software it was corrupt and had to be fixed.  I reinstalled into the same VM from scratch (deleting previous install) and did not select auto update.  I had no problems the second time.  Should I
[23:23] <aeoril> report a bug?
[23:23] <k1l> use 64bit
[23:23] <Highest5> Well, I already have the 32 bit running
[23:23] <beandog> how much ram do you have
[23:23] <k1l> only if your cpu doesnt run 32bit.
[23:23] <gordonjcp> aeoril: only if you can reproduce it
[23:23] <buntu__> I have 4gb ram and 13.10 32bit sees all the ram....
[23:23] <gordonjcp> Highest5: meh, leave it then
[23:23] <k1l> there is no reason to not take 64bit
[23:23] <daftykins> buntu__: probably using a PAE kernel
[23:23] <gordonjcp> Highest5: if it works don't fix it
[23:24] <beandog> buntu__: it maxes at 4gb
[23:24] <aeoril> gordonjcp ok, I can work on that - I can easily do it with the vms
[23:24] <k1l> ram is not the reason to take 64bit :/
[23:24] <buntu__> ahh
[23:24] <gordonjcp> aeoril: that might be useful to know
[23:24] <aeoril> gordonjcp (I mean I can easily try to do it)
[23:24] <beandog> k1l: well, yah, there's lots of reasons.  but it's still a choice.
[23:24] <k1l> Highest5: skype works since ages for me on 64bit
[23:24] <gordonjcp> aeoril: not particularly to me, I'm not clever enough for Windows
[23:24] <gordonjcp> aeoril: but file a bug
[23:25] <aeoril> gordonjcp ok, thanks - I'll go ahead and do some testing.
[23:25] <Highest5> standby gotta phone call
[23:25] <k1l> beandog: you can choose to install kernel 1.0. but nobody wants to to that too
[23:25] <buntu__> I use 32bit because the 64bit install always hangs and says it can't find a live file system
[23:25] <beandog> ?
[23:25] <LNegative> ?
[23:25] <beandog> whatevs.
[23:26] <w0rmie> where i can find downloaded files using wget tool?
[23:26] <beandog> w0rmie: dumps them in your current directory
[23:27] <k1l> w0rmie: in that directory just type "pwd" to see the full path
[23:27] <w0rmie> i'm on /
[23:28] <k1l> w0rmie: so guessing you use sudo or are root?
[23:30] <w0rmie> i am with root on NFSROOT
[23:30] <rizqibintang> hello all
[23:30] <rizqibintang> morning
[23:30]  * beandog hates guessing games
[23:30] <beandog> w0rmie: what are you trying to do
[23:31] <w0rmie> i am trying to install nfsbooted from the old releases archives
[23:33] <rizqibintang> eneng ra wong jowo
[23:34] <w0rmie> sorry i used the -P to get the whole path, it's fixed, thank you beandog :)
[23:35] <beandog> cool cool
[23:36] <w0rmie> i left linux since 2008, and i didn't touch a computer since 4 years ago :)
[23:36] <Highest5> okay sorry guys...had to take a phone call...
[23:36] <w0rmie> good luck guyz
[23:36] <Highest5> about this whole 32-bit vs 64-bit ubuntu idea.
[23:36] <k1l> Highest5: take 64bit if you cpu can handle that
[23:37] <Highest5> We'll I have 4gb of ram so I think it can handle it.
[23:37] <Highest5> sorry, k1l, I have 4gb of ram so it should be able to handle it.
[23:38] <k1l> Highest5: most modern cpus can handle 64bit. so in most cases it should work
[23:38] <Highest5> My question really is, since I already have 32, and a partitioned hard drive. The OS only takes up about 20 gb.
[23:38] <Highest5> The rest of my hard drive is just my home folder.
[23:38] <beandog> Highest5: oh okay, nicely done then
[23:38] <beandog> just don't screw up the partition section when reinstalling. :)
[23:38] <beandog> that would be bad.
[23:38] <Highest5> So during the installation process, when I click "something else" do I delete the sda1 partition (the os) and add another one? or will the computer just know I want to replace the 32 with the 64
[23:39] <beandog> Highest5: don't delete it, just mark it as active, and to reformat it
[23:39] <Highest5> haha beandog, that's why I'm here. To make sure I don't screw it up.
[23:39] <beandog> well, you could do either.
[23:39] <beandog> but I would just go into the mount part
[23:39] <beandog> and tell it to mount it as /
[23:39] <beandog> then to mount /dev/whatever as /home
[23:39] <k1l> Highest5: well, you can say to the installer it shoul use the old / as the new /
[23:40] <Highest5> I have /home already set up. That's where all my music and pictures are.
[23:40] <k1l> and the old/home as the new /home. then it will install into / (click formating for / NOT for /home)
[23:40] <Highest5> k1l, / should be the 20 gb partition right?
[23:41] <beandog> k1l: thank you, that's what I was trying to say :)
[23:41] <Highest5> the one that actually has to os
[23:41] <k1l> Highest5: if you say your old / was about 20GB and the bigger ine was /home, yes
[23:42] <Highest5> so when I go into the installer, I just format / and proceed with installation without adding or deleting my partitions?
[23:42] <chro> anyone can tell me a good app to annotate pdfs ?
[23:42] <k1l> yes
[23:42] <beandog> Highest5: just look over it carefully before you proceed.  It'll make sense.
[23:42] <Bodsda> Hi Guys -- recently I've noticed that my screen config (nvidia-settings creating the xorg.conf) aren't sticking after a reboot -- specifically my screen positioning -- any ideas?
[23:43] <Highest5> Seems simple enough. and since /home is a separate partition of the hard drive there's no NEED to back it up right? the only part being adjusted is /
[23:43] <k1l> Highest5: but you need to tell the installer that the old /-partition will be the new /-partition (wich the check by formating) and that the old /home-partition is the new /home-partition without formating
[23:43] <Highest5> just so I understand completely
[23:43] <k1l> Highest5: yes, just be aware what you choose to mount where and where you check the formating
[23:44] <Highest5> k1l: well in the installer I would just click /, then click format. let it do it's thing, not touch anything else, and start clicking continue like when I first installed the 32-bit
[23:44] <k1l> Highest5: nope
[23:45] <sean___> !pastebin
[23:45] <k1l> Highest5: you need to choose manually partitioning. then choose the 20GB partition, choose mount as /, choose formatin, then choose the bigger partition, choose only mount as home, then proceed
[23:46] <beandog> yahp
[23:46] <beandog> exactly that
[23:46] <Highest5> ahhhhhhhhhh okay
[23:46] <Highest5> I remember having to do that when I partitioned the hard drive.
[23:46] <beandog> so, format, not re-partition
[23:46] <k1l> Highest5: if you dont choose the old /home to be used as new /home, that will no be used
[23:47] <beandog> and you'd have to modify your /etc/fstab on the new install .... which is *not hard* at all
[23:47] <beandog> one line of code
[23:47] <beandog> unless your home is encrypted
[23:47] <Highest5> beandog: ya lost me
[23:47] <Highest5> it's not encrypted (as far as I'm aware)
[23:48] <beandog> that's my specialty
[23:48] <beandog> then you're fine
[23:48] <aeoril> gordonjcp also, I get this error whenever I boot (top line highlighted in white): http://i.imgur.com/7tZccsh.png - wondering if that is something to do with the Hyper-V VM also (it prints out to the screen during boot)
[23:48] <beandog> Basically, I'm saying, if you don't click reuse /home, you can still fixxor it, but after it's installed
[23:48] <Highest5> My entire hard drive is 20 gb os, about 5gb for swap, and the rest (of the 500 gb) is /home
[23:48] <chro> anyone can tell me a good app to annotate/comment pdfs that does not occupy much space ??
[23:49] <akurilin> Quick question. Is there a place I can plug in an xrandr call before my DE/WM of choice is initialized as I log in through the default Ubuntu greeting screen in precise?
[23:49] <beandog> akurilin: uh, kind of
[23:49] <Highest5> okay I'm just about to go get this done....but now will all the programs I use still work in the 64-bit version?
[23:49] <beandog> the real question is, what ar eyou trying to do
[23:50] <beandog> Highest5: that's the golden question.
[23:50] <Highest5> Skype, Compiz, Xchat, pidgin?
[23:50] <Highest5> I don't need skype for video calls, just the group text chats
[23:50] <beandog> Highest5: meh, you're fine.
[23:50] <akurilin> beandog: right now I have xmonad get started however Ubuntu does it by default when you install it through APT from the default repos. In order for the xmobar status bar to work correctly, the xrandr call I use to order screens correctly needs to be made before xmonad starts.
[23:51] <beandog> akurilin: oh okay
[23:51] <Highest5> okay cool. But one last question and I'm sure it's really dumb, and I'm sure the answer is no.
[23:51] <akurilin> beandog: I think without a DE picker you'd do this by configuring .xsession
[23:51] <beandog> akurilin: right, that's what I was going to suggest ... put it in there ... for root, I guess.
[23:51] <beandog> akurilin: I imagine even the xdm is going to load it
[23:51] <akurilin> beandog: is there a way to bypass the default greeting scrreen then?
[23:52] <beandog> akurilin: that's a feature of the xdm
[23:52] <beandog> akurilin: and yes, you can
[23:52] <Highest5> But I mess around with rooting android phones. Before I do any work with them I always backup the phone exactly as it is, so if something goes wrong, or I don't like it, I can restore it to what it was before I started messing with it. Can that be done in this scenario as well?
[23:52] <Highest5> just in case?
[23:52] <beandog> Highest5: eh, what you really need to backup is /etc
[23:52] <beandog> you can pretty much ignore everything else.
[23:53] <beandog> Highest5: even then, all the user config stuff is gonna be in $HOME anyway
[23:53] <mistawright> hi guys i need some help. i have been working on migrating  a plesk server and flipped the switch to the new server today. I am running into an issue where the new server is pointing back to old one. where on ubuntu would I find my dns configuration?
[23:53] <akurilin> beandog: ok I'll rummage around try to figure this out, thanks
[23:54] <akurilin> mistawright: run nm-tool
[23:54] <beandog> akurilin: if you wanna disable the dm completely, and just directly login with your user, then... that might be easier, but harder to setup.  Lots of options, of course. :T
[23:54] <Highest5> beandog: okay, I'll go take a look. I don't want to screw anything up. So if somethings not feeling right, I'll just come back here. If everythings fine, I'll come back and give additional thanks to you and k1l
[23:54] <akurilin> mistawright: also generally the DNS is configured by NetworkManager through the applet
[23:54] <sean___> I receive this error when I try to run 'gnome-settings-daemon'. I am running i3-wm on Ubuntu 13.04.
[23:54] <Highest5> but as for now thanks for the help
[23:54] <sean___> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6553876/
[23:54] <beandog> Highest5: good luck.
[23:54] <k1l> Highest5: if you are unsure come back and ask again
[23:54] <beandog> Highest5: you could always do a trial run in VirtualBox or something
[23:54] <akurilin> mistawright: unless you disabled that and are configuring this by hand thorugh resolv.conf
[23:54] <beandog> Highest5: just to see how it works
[23:55] <Highest5> I can do that?
[23:55] <Bizzeh> hi, does anyone know how to get rsync to find only a certain filename, and only sync files by that filename? but, keeping the directory structure that that file exists within?
[23:55] <mistawright> akurilin: what package is nm-tool part of? its not on my 12.04 lts server
[23:55] <beandog> Highest5: well, I mean, not for *your* specific setup, but you could duplicate the scenario.  install ubuntu 32-bit with a separate /home partition, then reinstall to 64 bit and keep /home
[23:56] <akurilin> mistawright: I'm actually curious to know if ubuntu server bothers with that toolset at all
[23:56] <akurilin> might be a desktop-only piece
[23:56] <akurilin> check resolv.conf to see if it's being managed
[23:56] <mistawright> akurilin: yeah no networkmanager daemon either
[23:56] <Highest5> I think I got it. It's not the first time I've installed the os. Just the first time I replaced it since partitioning the hard drive. every other time I just let ubuntu take the entire HDD and fully wiped it
[23:56] <beandog> Highest5: right.
[23:57] <Highest5> But I'm off, hopefully, I'll return with good news. Thanks again beandog and k1l
[23:57] <beandog> Highest5: if you're uncertain though, I'd do a dry run.  I'd be unhappy if I lost 500 Gb of data.
[23:58] <rokon1> Hello Ubuntu users! I have a major major problem. After ubuntun 12.10 crashed, (i use grub to dual boot with win8) it boots to a blank pruple screen and hangs. help!?
[23:59] <rokon1> Hello Ubuntu users! I have a major major problem. After ubuntun 12.10 crashed, (i use grub to dual boot with win8) it boots to a blank pruple screen and hangs. help!?