[05:50] <Jordan_U> Would #ubuntu-offtopic ops object to "!42-#ubuntu-offtopic is the answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything.", and is that the right syntax for an #ubuntu-offtopic specific factoid?
[06:10] <Jordan_U> !42-#ubuntu-offtopic is the answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything.
[06:10] <Jordan_U> Wait, someone already made a global factoid, and made it *wrong*!
[06:10] <Jordan_U> !42
[06:11] <Jordan_U> !forget 42-#ubuntu-offtopic
[06:11] <Jordan_U> !42 is the answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything.
[06:11] <Jordan_U> !forget 42
[06:11] <Jordan_U> !42 is the answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything.
[06:12]  * Jordan_U needs to brush up on his ubotting.
[06:12] <Jordan_U> !unforget 42
[06:12] <Jordan_U> !no 42 is the answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything.
[06:12] <Jordan_U> !42
[07:34] <mernilio> Hi all! Im banned from ubuntu-offtopic. Why in hell could i have told offtopic, so horrible, that i got banned?
[07:49] <Jordan_U> k1l_: I don't belive that a ban was actually warrented there. guest|27551 is legitimately asking about a larger question, and while earlier a screenshot may have made sense (and their refusal to give one then was odd), I don't think it's needed any more. Their question is how to monitor what applications are initiating network connections, and they probably also want to set a default policy of refusal or prompting the user to ...
[07:49] <Jordan_U> ... allow a connection.
[07:49] <Jordan_U> k1l_: Are you currently in a PM conversation with them?
[07:50] <k1l_> Jordan_U: yes im in a pm with him
[07:50] <k1l_> no he left :/
[07:50] <k1l_> *now
[07:51] <k1l_> Jordan_U: as you saw yourself he was causing alot of trouble which was disturbing the channel.
[07:51] <k1l_> so i made a ban and tried to solve that in pm to give the channel some cooldown
[07:51] <Jordan_U> k1l_: I think that the reactions were worse than the actions that triggered them personally.
[07:55] <k1l_> it was guessed to use ufw or iptables in the beginning. but since he could not even describe what he exactly means it was just guessing. hes refusing to describe what program or effect he really ment or to show screenshot didnt lead to a proper support.
[07:56] <k1l_> so that could have been the smart scope (or lense in older ubuntus) or a music program. that are both quite different programs with need another handling
[07:57] <k1l_> my point was not to refuse support. it was just to help cool down the situation.
[07:57] <Jordan_U> k1l_: ufw can't do what they asked for, monitor what applicatios are making network connections and have a default policy of blocking them, and while iptables probably can I would certainly need to do a lot of reasearch to find out how so just pointing someone at iptables is not an answer. To be clear, I don't have an answer.
[07:58] <k1l_> Jordan_U: yes. but do you really think you could have explained that to him in that situation?
[07:59] <Jordan_U> k1l_: I didn't try to explain that ufw wouldn't do what they wanted because that would be an odd thing to explain. It was the people trying to help that were giving answers to a different question than was being asked.
[08:02] <Jordan_U> k1l_: I agree that the situation needed to be cooled down, and that the ban accomplished that, but banning someone comes with it an implicit judgment that they did something wrong (even if you don't intend it as such), and I think that those swearing, using all caps, and making accusations of trolling were much more deserving of a ban (though banning them clearly was not warrented either, and would not have been productive).
[10:03] <LjL> wall-o-jordan
[15:54] <bazhang> the cancer of apt-get? wth
[16:12] <Pici> michagogo should know better
[17:27] <Pici> heh
 any linux females in here <compdoc> Ive yet to see any person, male or female, that is an operating system
[17:29]  * LjL comes back after just dumping core
[17:29] <LjL> i mean, uh
[17:29] <LjL> PANIC
 Hi all.. its stupid but its to slippery for me to go outside.. I sound like a old man but its really difficult.
[18:09] <bazhang> that almost made sense
[18:10] <ikonia> he knows what he's doing, I'm tired of this guy
[18:10] <bazhang> of course he does
[18:10] <Pici> ditto