[05:34] <MartijnVdS> https://twitter.com/search?q=%23FiveTechWordHorrors&src=hash
[05:39] <ali1234> "i have a website idea"
[05:41] <MartijnVdS> "you have a backup, right?"
[06:50] <mapps> 1 more day of work
[06:50] <mapps> ;DDDDD
[06:52] <MooDoo> morning
[06:52] <mapps> morning
[06:52] <mapps> MartijnVdS,  who you flying with?
[07:07] <knightwise> morning
[07:07] <MooDoo> how are you knightwise
[07:09] <knightwise> hey MooDoo :) Up early as usual .. and how are you this fine morning ?
[07:09] <MooDoo> knightwise: busy at work.....well luckily not too busy
[07:10] <knightwise> wish i was so lucky
[07:11] <knightwise> just switched over the wan connection for ALL our company sites
[07:11] <knightwise> new internet firewall and gateway for 2600 users + narrowcasting screens, ip cams etc .. across 105 locations
[07:12] <MooDoo> ouch
[07:13] <MooDoo> need a tea boy I'm sure I could help :)
[07:13] <foobarry> just trod in a poo in my slippers that the dog left me
[07:13] <knightwise> Lol :) You are in the netherlands too right ?
[07:13] <MooDoo> foobarry: ewwwwwwwwww
[07:13] <MooDoo> knightwise: it's only a short walk to schipol airport then a short stroll to you right? ;)
[07:13] <foobarry> been clearing up for last 20 mins
[07:14] <knightwise> Eindhoven , near the airport for me
[07:14] <knightwise> foobarry: I feel your pain
[07:14] <knightwise> and 'ick'
[07:14] <MooDoo> it'll take me a bout 6 months to save for the airfair, 7 weeks to walk to the air port, so I'll see you late 2014, that ok? ;)
[07:15] <knightwise> MooDoo: where are you at ?
[07:15] <MooDoo> nottingham, midlands
[07:15] <knightwise> ahaaaa
[07:15] <knightwise> Its MartijnVdS who is a Dutchie
[07:15] <knightwise> I keep forgetting
[07:15] <knightwise> nationalities don't mean much online anyway
[07:15] <MooDoo> :)
[07:15] <MooDoo> nah not really
[07:15] <foobarry> both funny languages
[07:16] <knightwise> I speak flemish, french, english and german
[07:16] <knightwise> dutch/flemish is almost the same
[07:16] <foobarry> fluent?
[07:16] <knightwise> Yep
[07:16] <foobarry> theres a whole world of other jobs available if u are fluent
[07:16] <knightwise> english almost native, french pretty fluent, flemisch is my native tongue and i'm pretty good at german
[07:17] <foobarry> working in banks IT is a bonus
[07:17] <knightwise> and since i've worked in the netherlands for 3 years I also know the differences between dutch and flemish vocabulary
[07:17] <mapps> MartijnVdS, ??
[07:17] <knightwise> yep
[07:18] <mapps> knightwise,  you live in Amsterdam?
[07:18] <mapps> nice
[07:21] <knightwise> I live in Belgium (mid-east)
[07:21] <knightwise> i work in eindhoven
[07:22] <mapps> aha
[07:22] <mapps> nice
[07:22] <mapps> so you're from Belgium?
[07:24] <knightwise> Correct
[07:24] <mapps> nice
[07:24] <mapps> dont theyt speak dutch there also?
[07:25] <knightwise> flemish and dutch is almost the same
[07:25] <knightwise> in belgium we speak french, flemish and german
[07:25] <knightwise> but not everyone is trilinual
[07:25] <mapps> oh
[07:25] <mapps> i thought dutch was one of their languages
[07:25] <mapps> i see
[07:26] <knightwise> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081017193918AAYCOHI
[07:29] <mapps> you know leidseplein?
[07:41] <MartijnVdS> mapps: yeah, I'm about 2km away ;)
[07:42] <mapps> aha
[07:42] <mapps> MartijnVdS,
[07:42] <mapps> so youve been there
[07:42] <mapps> where's good to go?
[07:42] <MartijnVdS> mapps: for food?
[07:42] <mapps> im staying there..
[07:42] <mapps> for everything..food for drinks/clubs at night
[07:42] <mapps> like where do locals go..
[07:42] <mapps> i dont wanna go to some club where its just tourists
[07:43] <diddledan> mapps: follow the red lights :-p
[07:43] <mapps> lol
[07:43] <MartijnVdS> mapps: Alberto's in the "Korte Leidsedwarsstraat" -- http://www.albertossteakhouse.nl/
[07:43] <mapps> a steak house!
[07:43] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: you know *only* tourists go there right :)
[07:43] <mapps> already sounds good:D
[07:43] <diddledan> steak awesome!
[07:43] <mapps> ya
[07:44] <mapps> but where for the night MartijnVdS  where to go to partyyy
[07:44] <diddledan> MartijnVdS: d'oh
[07:44] <mapps> thats not just a tourist trap!
[07:44] <mapps> i dont want no 10 euros a beer;p
[07:44] <diddledan> mapps: you want to be mugged?
[07:44] <diddledan> I'm sure there's a biker bar that'ld love to have a tourist
[07:45] <mapps> LOL
[07:45] <MartijnVdS> mapps: hm, that link isn't right..
[07:45] <mapps> no thanks diddledan
[07:45] <mapps> it worked here MartijnVdS
[07:45] <MartijnVdS> mapps: you want the one at "Korte Leidsedwarsstraat 26"
[07:45] <mapps> aha
[07:45] <MartijnVdS> mapps: yeah but I think it's the wrong place :)
[07:45] <mapps> and what club around lederpslein is good to go
[07:46] <mapps> where do ducth guys and gals go
[07:46] <MartijnVdS> mapps: a few meters further down the street there's a whisk(e)y bar :)
[07:46] <MartijnVdS> if you're into that
[07:46] <mapps> its crap going to total tourist bars
[07:46] <mapps> are there any casinos?
[07:46] <mapps> they're normally open late
[07:46] <MartijnVdS> mapps: except in Amsterdam they aren't ;)
[07:46] <mapps> oh
[07:46] <mapps> :)
[07:47] <mapps> what about hm
[07:47] <MartijnVdS> mapps: if you want to dance/club/etc. go to the Rembrandtplein area, I guess
[07:47] <mapps> i came across some clubs
[07:47] <MartijnVdS> I don't know names or which ones are good
[07:47] <mapps> ya
[07:47] <MartijnVdS> but I hear that that's where they are
[07:47] <mapps> but only if locals go..its crap when its a tourist trap
[07:47] <mapps> yea
[07:47] <popey> Good morning
[07:47] <mapps> morning
[07:47] <MartijnVdS> howdy popey
[07:47] <mapps> i need to look at tickets for wimbledon this year
[07:47] <mapps> wanna go to as many matches as i can this time
[07:48] <mapps> put my name down for the draw for wc tickets but i guess didnt get any;/
[07:54] <MooDoo> ooo how old - http://web.archive.org/web/20041014050911/http://www.ubuntu.com/
[07:55] <MartijnVdS> circles, circles everywhere!
[07:55] <MartijnVdS> also, Plone
[07:55] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[07:55] <mapps> morning
[07:56] <brobostigon> morning mapps
[07:57] <knightwise> hey brobostigon
[07:57] <brobostigon> hey knightwise
[07:58] <MooDoo> morning brobostigon
[07:58] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[07:59] <brobostigon> two weeks, and i can get my hands on my pebble, :)
[07:59] <mapps>  nice
[07:59] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: you could just go outside and pick one up from the street :P
[07:59] <mapps> but what do you need it for
[07:59] <mapps> heh
[08:00] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: haha :)
[08:00] <mapps> check out MartijnVdS  with the jokes;p
[08:00] <MooDoo> mapps: you call that a joke? ;)
[08:00] <mapps> well
[08:00] <mapps> i thought it was :O(
[08:00] <MartijnVdS> mapps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTR2tVr2a6A&list=PLMs_JcuNozJYOfHXHGTtHse4XYvnygc8A
[08:00] <MartijnVdS> mapps: jokes!
[08:00] <brobostigon> mapps: i needed a new watch so i thought, why not get something different, :)
[08:00] <mapps> :)
[08:01] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: any special plans for it? (hacking its firmware, stuff like that)
[08:01] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: or are you keeping it "stock" for the time being
[08:01] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: i didnt know you could actually do that, good to know, :)
[08:02] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: I don't know if you can, but it has a processor, so why not
[08:02] <brobostigon> i think something like a MB of storage, so plenty of space.
[08:02] <MooDoo> you mean GB?
[08:03] <brobostigon> rtos i believe.
[08:08] <brobostigon> i cant find the page now, but it isnt very much apparently.
[08:12] <popey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiyRNyLkELg nice
[08:15] <diplo> Morning all
[08:16] <MooDoo> morning diplo popey
[08:21] <mapps> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkndVzfOeRc
[08:21] <mapps> busy busy
[08:22] <mapps> Xmas just around the corner..then ive gotta try and get a glastonbury ticket;/
[08:22] <mapps> first time i didnt get one in 6 years!
[08:34] <knightwise> hey guys
[08:34] <knightwise> quick technical question
[08:34] <knightwise> i need to find out from what IP address i'm approaching a certain website
[08:34] <knightwise> but i'm in a citrix desktop session so I don't have any command line access
[08:35] <knightwise> or dosbox
[08:35] <knightwise> any idea how i can find that out ?
[08:35] <mapps> cant you just use a website like whatismyip.com
[08:35] <knightwise> mapps , agreed
[08:35] <knightwise> but ...
[08:35] <mapps> did i miss something sorry
[08:35] <MartijnVdS> the proxy might be set to only proxy for some sites..
[08:36] <mapps> thought yousaid no command line? can you not load a browser?
[08:36] <mapps> ah
[08:36] <knightwise> Normally all my traffic goes through a proxy
[08:36] <knightwise> exxcept that one site
[08:36] <MartijnVdS> knightwise: if you have control over the server, you can put a small script there that tells you
[08:36] <knightwise> so thats the one I need to find out.
[08:36] <knightwise> No control over the server :(
[08:36] <MartijnVdS> knightwise: put the server in your /etc/hosts, pointing to 127.0.0.1
[08:36] <MartijnVdS> knightwise: if you end up at 127.0.0.1, the proxy is not used
[08:37] <MartijnVdS> if you don't the proxy IS used, and you can use whatsmyip.com :)
[08:37] <knightwise> As I said , i'm only a thin client user on that server , so I have no access rights whatsoever
[08:37] <shauno> that might give you a false positive, most systems know to skip the proxy for local addresses
[08:37] <MartijnVdS> shauno: also, NAT
[08:37] <knightwise> Is an "online traceroute" something that works ?
[08:37] <MartijnVdS> knightwise: only from the website it's on
[08:38] <MartijnVdS> knightwise: (it traces from the server the traceroute script runs on)
[08:38] <knightwise> damn ...
[08:38] <knightwise> also not what I need
[08:38] <MartijnVdS> knightwise: what OS are you on?
[08:39] <MartijnVdS> knightwise: there might be flash versions of those tools, those work client side
[08:39] <MartijnVdS> knightwise: or in a java applet
[08:39] <knightwise> I'll give it a try
[08:41] <SuperMatt> morning all
[08:51] <mapps> hmm
[08:51] <mapps> Juventus game yesterday was odd eh
[08:51] <mapps> being replayed at1pm uk time too what a bad time choice
[09:06] <Myrtti> meh
[09:09] <MooDoo> Myrtti: hug
[09:14] <Myrtti> oh but now I remember what I have about today to be happy about!
[09:14] <Myrtti> new (to us) car day!
[09:14] <MooDoo> yaya
[09:17] <SuperMatt> ugh, a colleague of mine has put on the limp bizcuit version of behind blue eyes, and frankly it is making me feel sick
[09:20] <Myrtti> I knew there was another version than the Limp Bizkit one but I forgot which one was original... my mind must be slipping
[09:20] <Myrtti> and yes, no matter what version of the song is playing, I get nauseous too
[09:27] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Mountain Day! :-D
[09:30] <TheOpenSourcerer> Gotta love this: "UK prepares to launch internet archive without internet access" http://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240210795/UK-prepares-to-launch-internet-archive-without-internet-access doh!
[09:34] <dvrr> good morning  all
[09:40] <DJones> Ah well, another day in work, time to start another audiobook to stop me from falling asleep
[09:58] <diddledan> free hugs, MooDoo ?
[09:59] <MooDoo> diddledan: yeah why the heck not :F
[09:59] <MooDoo> :D
[09:59] <diddledan> sweet
[10:00] <diddledan> JamesTait: mountain day?
[10:00] <JamesTait> diddledan, http://www.fao.org/forestry/internationalmountainday/en/
[10:55] <MooDoo> hmmm anyone up for a ubuntu uk christmas google + hangout a week on sunday 22nd?  could be a giggle :D
[10:57] <MartijnVdS> why not
[10:57]  * MartijnVdS has a webcam and 100mbit internet ;)
[10:57] <MooDoo> might send it to the mailing list.....
[10:59] <dogmatic69> MartijnVdS:  you on Virgin?
[10:59] <MartijnVdS> dogmatic69: nah, I'm in the Netherlands :)
[11:00] <dogmatic69> ah
[11:00] <MartijnVdS> dogmatic69: on XS4ALL
[11:00] <MartijnVdS> dogmatic69: with FttH, so 100/100 symmetric
[11:00]  * dogmatic69 has 100mbit too :)
[11:00] <dogmatic69> only 10 upload though :/
[11:00] <davmor2> Morning all
[11:01] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[11:02] <davmor2> Hey MooDoo how's Life
[11:03] <diddledan> I hate multilingualising
[11:03] <MartijnVdS> dogmatic69: I'll be getting 500/500 :)
[11:03] <MooDoo> davmor2: brill thanks, just sent a email to the mailing list :) how are you sir?
[11:03] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: what's wrong with multilingualism?
[11:04] <diplo> MartijnVdS: Do you know you can get to not like some people
[11:04] <diplo> :)
[11:04] <popey> MOO!
[11:04] <diddledan> turns out that I need to change my doodah because the client insists on it being a different format to what I'd speficied - i.e. I've given them two phone number slots, they only want to use one despite the original spec requiring two
[11:04] <diddledan> DOO
[11:04] <diddledan> put it together and you got MOODOO
[11:04] <MooDoo> awwww shucks you guys ;)
[11:05] <dogmatic69> MartijnVdS:  I got a email saying I get free upgrade to 120 soon :P
[11:05] <diddledan> dogmatic69: virgin?
[11:05] <dogmatic69> yep
[11:05] <diddledan> aah
[11:05] <diddledan> <-- sky
[11:05] <diddledan> I got 40megalumps
[11:06]  * diplo if lucky gets 8mb on Sky
[11:06] <diddledan> I want moar
[11:06] <dogmatic69> diddledan:  the difference between virgin and <other_broadband> is that on speed test I get 101.xxmbit on a 100mbit line
[11:06] <diddledan> lol
[11:06] <diplo> Can get Fibre, but not sure I want to upgrade an dbe tied for another year so pondering..
[11:06] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: I also get 25/25 on 4G
[11:06] <diddledan> ouch
[11:06] <diddledan> that's fast wirelesses
[11:06] <diplo> MartijnVdS: Again, you can go off some people :)
[11:07] <dogmatic69> never had any broadband that came close to the advertised speed
[11:07] <dogmatic69> before virgin that is
[11:07] <MartijnVdS> diplo: 4G speeds should be similar everywhere, right?
[11:07] <MartijnVdS> diplo: it's the same tech
[11:07] <popey> http://www.speedtest.net/result/3158299347.png \o/
[11:07] <popey> 60 megalumps
[11:08] <davmor2> popey: you only just been updated or something?
[11:08] <diddledan> that's a lotta lumps
[11:08] <davmor2> MooDoo: oh exciting
[11:09] <dogmatic69> diplo:  4g should go upto around 100mbit on mobile
[11:09] <dogmatic69> in ideal conditions etc
[11:10] <diddledan> ideal being sat at the foot od the tower
[11:10] <diddledan> actually that's probably one of the worst places for reception
[11:10] <MartijnVdS> dogmatic69: isn't that LTE-Advanced?
[11:10] <MartijnVdS> dogmatic69: with "normal" LTE being up to 50?
[11:11] <davmor2> popey: http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3158303941
[11:11] <diddledan> Long-Term Evolution my foot!
[11:11] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: yes, that's how it came about ;)
[11:11] <popey> heh
[11:11] <dogmatic69> MartijnVdS:  ah, seems so
[11:11] <MartijnVdS> sigh @ people who name standards:
[11:11] <MartijnVdS> Simultaneous voice and LTE (SVLTE)
[11:12] <dogmatic69> seems LTE normal is 300 on wiki
[11:12] <dogmatic69> "Peak download rates up to 299.6 Mbit/s and upload rates up to 75.4 Mbit/s depending on the user equipment category"
[11:12] <MartijnVdS> dogmatic69: then Vodafone is probably limiting it here :)
[11:12] <dogmatic69> ye, overselling
[11:12] <MartijnVdS> dogmatic69: also, 20MHz of spectrum is a lot, and nobody has 4x4 antennas
[11:12] <diddledan> yeah a lot of corps are artificially limiting it
[11:13] <dogmatic69> diddledan:  that is how de beers made diamonds expenisve
[11:13] <dogmatic69> oldest trick in the book
[11:13] <diddledan> they wouldn't be able to cope with the bandwidth (bits per second not wireless bandwidth) required for everyone to be on marked speeds
[11:16] <diddledan> that's a funky word: Boodschap
[11:16] <diddledan> MartijnVdS: what does it actually translate to?
[11:16] <diddledan> I've got it down as translation of "message"
[11:17] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: yes, it's "message"
[11:17] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[11:17] <bigcalm> davmor2: still going to the LUG meal tonight, or ditching it to see Sarah Millican instead?
[11:18] <diddledan> that's good, I'm still in sync with the actual content vs the foreign translation that doesn't include reference to what the translation is actually translating
[11:18] <MartijnVdS> Or when you go shopping, that's "boodschappen (doen)"
[11:19] <diddledan> lol, Onderwerp, sounds like "under wear"
[11:19] <davmor2> bigcalm: the LUG it will be funnier, I have cards to write :)
[11:19] <DJones> Erm, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-25330237 I must be missing something, how do blobs on a piece of paper become worth ~£15,000 each, I must get some new colour inks for my printer, I've got a ream of paper here, 500 * £15,000 = Loaded
[11:19] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: Well "onder" means "below", just like "sub" in subject
[11:19] <diddledan> aha
[11:19] <diddledan> it all makes sense
[11:20] <bigcalm> davmor2: ack, me too
[11:20] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: it's a translation from Latin from the 1500s
[11:21] <diddledan> I guess I need to learn latin >.<
[11:21] <diddledan> :-p
[11:21] <diddledan> those damned italians
[11:22] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: learning about the indo-european roots of all those languages would be even more useful
[11:22] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: and/or the various vowel and consontant shifts
[11:22] <MartijnVdS> -t
[11:22] <diddledan> continent shifts? :-p
[11:22] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: those too, but that's a different subject :)
[11:22] <diddledan> lol
[11:23] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: http://historyofenglishpodcast.com/ ;)
[11:24] <diddledan> as apple would say: there's a podcast for that
[11:24] <diddledan> but they wouldn't because they can't scrape any money off podcasts
[11:25] <diddledan> actually they might be working on a way to do so. that would be a money spinner.
[11:26] <diddledan> imagine. you can publish your podcast anywhere but when apple drives listeners to your podcast you must pay apple 30% of any advertising or direct revenue from that user
[11:26] <diddledan> like ebooks or apps that have a webstore built in
[11:27] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: I've heard a few ads in podcasts, they just play it at the start/end and/or the presenters do some promotion for a service and give a discount code
[11:27] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: the "history of english" guy made a "history of the alphabet" series you can pay for
[11:27] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: and another podcast I listen to is kickstartering its second season
[11:42] <MooDoo> popey: ah poo didn't know hangouts on air was 18+  doesn't the normal hangout only have a set amount of people that can join or has that limit been removed?
[11:43] <popey> they both have a limit of 15 at a time AIUI
[11:43] <MooDoo> ah
[12:03] <foobarry> does this link work on ubuntu? http://www.channel5.com/shows/the-great-christmas-toy-giveaway/episodes/the-great-christmas-toy-giveaway
[12:04] <foobarry> the programme fails to play...first time i tried a c5 prog
[12:07] <popey> doesnt work here
[12:07] <popey> but odd since it's flash
[12:08] <popey> well, not that odd
[12:31] <Laney> christmas tree!
[13:08] <popey> http://www.neuroproductions.be/arduino/arduino-video-game/
[13:08] <popey> fun
[13:08] <diddledan> I would guess it's DRM protected
[13:09] <diddledan> some DRMs work on ubuntu if you install the hal package, but 13.10 doesn't include such a beast
[13:22] <foobarry> i am on 1204 with hal
[13:22] <foobarry> doesnt work on android either
[14:16] <MooDoo> AlanBell: are you able to help the person in ubuntu-irc re the bot?
[14:26] <TheOpenSourcerer> popey: Anything remotely interesting about this Press
[14:26] <TheOpenSourcerer> Release? http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/sap-increases-focus-on-developer-experience-and-makes-key-open-source-contributions-235346121.html
[14:31] <popey> not for non-SAP users, no.
[14:32] <TheOpenSourcerer> ty
[14:36] <diddledan> openui5 looks interesting
[14:42] <diddledan> it had to be done, didn't it - the html5 starwarts intro: https://openui5.hana.ondemand.com/test-resources/sap/m/demokit/explored/index.html
[14:48] <bigcalm> davmor2: What's Ron's wife's name?
[14:48] <davmor2> bigcalm: Mel
[14:49] <bigcalm> davmor2: ta
[14:49] <bigcalm> davmor2: who is SimonB (on the list)?
[14:50] <davmor2> bigcalm: Blond haired cyclist who normally brings Sam his girlfriend
[14:51] <bigcalm> davmor2: but only turns up at the xmas meal? The name and description really doesn't ring a bell
[14:51] <Azelphur> A little offtopic, but anyone have any suggestions on how I might resolve this Skype on Android problem? https://www.dropbox.com/s/oexqae0ap5ih3on/2013-12-11%2003.14.03.mp4
[14:51] <MartijnVdS> by using Google Hangouts
[14:52] <davmor2> bigcalm: he normally turns up a few times in the year but hasn't this year
[14:52] <Azelphur> MartijnVdS: that was pretty much my assessment.
[14:52] <Azelphur> xD
[14:52] <bigcalm> davmor2: righto
[15:03] <diddledan> Azelphur: that's microsoft's secret ploy to make you buy a windows phone
[15:03] <Azelphur> lol
[15:03] <Myrtti> oooh oooh Dell Chromebook
[15:03] <diddledan> oooh
[15:03] <Myrtti> http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/11/5199524/dell-chromebook-11-first-chrome-os-laptop
[15:03] <diddledan> wait, what?
[15:03] <MartijnVdS> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2079040/dell-to-add-chromebook-11-looks-beyond-windows-and-android.html
[15:05] <diddledan> meh, I need to be able to run a webserver on my local system along with version control and the like - chromebooks just don't appeal to me
[15:11] <foobarry> i havent found someone yet who *only* uses the net, without occasional other bits and bobs
[15:12] <foobarry> the fact they sell them in netbook size suggests its a companion to other computing devices you already have
[15:14] <foobarry> could that dell pic be any more multi cultural?
[15:25] <popey> my mum would probably be fine with a chromebook
[15:33] <foobarry> my mum also likes scanning/picasa/printing. the g+ photo app seems lame
[15:36] <daftykins> most people with simple uses i've seen with chromebooks have ended up wanting more, then they've modded Ubuntu onto them :D
[15:37] <foobarry> popey: did wifey sanction the scalextric?
[15:39] <popey> not spoken about it yet
[15:41] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: *veto
[15:41] <foobarry> :)
[15:49] <foobarry> verb
[15:49] <foobarry> 1.
[15:49] <foobarry> give official permission or approval for (an action).
[15:49] <MartijnVdS> a constitutional right to reject a decision or proposal made by a lawmaking body.
[15:49] <MartijnVdS> according to Google
[15:49] <MartijnVdS> or "a rejection by right of veto.
[15:50] <MartijnVdS> or "any ban or prohibition."
[15:50] <bigcalm> Somebody (not me) should set-up a RPi and webcam to play scalextric against a human. Reacting to impending corners and proximity to other cars. Sending control signals either directly to the track or via an actuator to vary pressure on a controller
[15:51] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: why not you?
[15:51] <bigcalm> MartijnVdS: lack of time and Scalextric ;)
[15:53] <popey> hah
[15:53] <popey> i like that idea
[15:54] <popey> then setup two and have them race eachother
[15:54] <popey> be fun for sam to have someone to race against ☻
[16:12] <bigcalm> What's the default MTA on ubuntu server?
[16:13] <bigcalm> Ah, postfix
[16:17] <TheOpenSourcerer> exit
[16:17] <TheOpenSourcerer> oops
[16:17] <TheOpenSourcerer> ttfn
[16:18] <TheOpenSourcerer> It's Thing 2's Nativity play this evening.
[16:18] <TheOpenSourcerer> He's doing the sound :-)
[16:18] <bigcalm> Try not to embarrass them too much
[16:18] <bigcalm> Humf
[16:44] <popey> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25338591
[16:45] <Azelphur> Smartphone users will be able to build playlists of songs and then hear them played back in a random order. Tablet users will have more control, letting them select specific tracks
[16:45] <Azelphur> everybody asking questions about build.prop tweaks in 3...2...1
[16:45] <Azelphur> (also surge in paranoidandroid users in 3...2...1)
[16:46] <daftykins> Azelphur: :D
[16:46] <daftykins> yeah i read that bit and thought - wait who wants that? but maybe it's talking features rather than play style
[16:47] <daftykins> sigh at being asked to be a human spam filter again today
[16:47] <daftykins> forwarded a 'FedEx' email and asked if it is legit
[16:47] <daftykins> ¬_¬
[16:47] <Azelphur> lol
[16:48] <Azelphur> daftykins: did you see my funny Skype video earlier? :P
[16:53] <popey> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/the-pope/10510806/Pope-Francis-named-Time-Person-of-the-Year-2013.html
[16:58] <Laney> passed over again
[16:59] <daftykins> Azelphur: no sir?
[16:59] <Azelphur> daftykins: https://www.dropbox.com/s/oexqae0ap5ih3on/2013-12-11%2003.14.03.mp4
[16:59]  * Azelphur facedesks
[17:02] <daftykins> O_O
[17:02] <Azelphur> Skype works great, eh? :)
[17:02] <daftykins> was that clean install, post update or just a subsequent login?
[17:02] <Azelphur> clean install on stock rom
[17:02] <Azelphur> brand new phone >.<
[17:02] <daftykins> ouchies!
[17:03] <daftykins> N5?
[17:03] <Azelphur> yup
[17:03] <Azelphur> crappy skype xD
[17:03] <daftykins> i feel like the world + dog upgraded to a Nexus 5 whilst i just got my N4 back in Feb :>
[17:04] <Azelphur> I was gonna stick with my N4, but someone offered me £190 for it
[17:04] <Azelphur> figured it was worth the cheap upgrade
[17:04] <daftykins> :o
[17:04] <daftykins> neat :)
[17:04] <daftykins> alrighty, i think i've made my house sufficiently cat-proof
[17:05] <daftykins> i'm cat-sitting for my olds this weekend, with the view that they're going to try and give me this one permanently D:
[17:08] <Azelphur> cat sitting \o/
[17:09] <dwatkins> a friend of mine was cat-sitting two cats, and one of them disappeared within the flat for 4 hours, she was distraught
[17:09] <dwatkins> it magically turned-up later that same evening, acting like nothing had happened, of course
[17:10] <popey> wifey rabbit sat the neighbours bunny
[17:10] <popey> it died
[17:10] <popey> well, we had to take it to the vets and have it put down
[17:10] <popey> it got bum rot
[17:10] <dwatkins> :(
[17:10] <daftykins> dwatkins: :D
[17:10] <popey> she was scared that they'd go mental when they got back
[17:11] <popey> so we asked their friend (who picked them up from their airport) to let them know in the car
[17:11] <popey> the family were very much "oh, whatever"
[17:11] <dwatkins> blimey
[17:11] <dwatkins> I'm a 36 year old man, and I cried when my hamster had to be put down.
[17:12] <dwatkins> (last year)
[17:12] <daftykins> wow, didn't think there was much that could afflict hamsters prior to their already short lifespan
[17:12] <dwatkins> he had cancer, poor dude, had a massive lump on his belly
[17:12] <daftykins> :O
[17:13] <dwatkins> this all happened relatively quickly, he was fine until a couple days before
[17:14] <popey> yeah, i will be quite upset when salem goes
[17:14] <popey> he's very much "my" cat
[17:14] <dwatkins> for the curious, here's Fudge: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dominic_watkins/sets/72157629430836885/
[17:14] <popey> sitting on my desk every day
[17:14] <popey> awwww
[17:14] <dwatkins> yeah, he was awesome, never bit anyone either.
[17:15]  * dwatkins goes back to logging his second bug of the day and leaves the tab open
[17:15] <daftykins> aww
[17:15] <daftykins> looks an adventurous chap
[17:16] <dwatkins> yeah, he tried his hardest to get out of everything we put him in, including the bath
[17:17] <daftykins> :D
[17:27]  * dwatkins notes he's still at work and has to be back at 8am
[17:47]  * czajkowski hugs davmor2 
[17:48] <czajkowski> howdy sunshine
[17:48]  * davmor2 glares at czajkowski for accosting him
[17:48] <davmor2> czajkowski: busy thanks you?
[17:50] <davmor2> czajkowski: how's bash
[17:50] <davmor2> and more important hows the Hens
[17:50] <czajkowski> bash is good
[17:50] <czajkowski> he's making fun of the hens
[17:50] <czajkowski> 1/3 is well able for him and pecks him on the nose when he gets in her face
[17:51] <czajkowski> the other two just flap away
[17:56] <dwatkins> I assume they actually have names, czajkowski ;)
[17:56] <dwatkins> ...or are they "one of three" etc.
[17:58] <czajkowski> dwatkins: oh you've not heard :)
[17:58] <czajkowski> ahh
[17:58] <czajkowski> :)
[17:58] <czajkowski> Periperi, Jerk and Teryaki  :)
[17:58] <czajkowski> I blame jon
[17:58] <dwatkins> oh right, I see...
[18:02] <directhex> great now i'm hungry
[18:04] <dwatkins> I'm hungry and I just had snacks.
[18:05] <directhex> i'm on a diet. i contain less food than i ought to
[18:06] <directhex> http://steamcommunity.com/gid/103582791434672565#announcements/detail/1930088300965516570
[18:06] <dwatkins> I've been naughty with my dieting, but had a lot of success with keto, including not getting hungry much.
[18:06] <dwatkins> yay for Steam Machines
[18:06] <dwatkins> although they look like Dell desktop PCs
[18:36] <bigcalm> Xmas LUG meal time. Yay for Wolverhampton curries \o/
[18:41] <daftykins> hahaha
[18:59] <directhex> ultra-premium gaming pc company Digital Storm teases a dual-boot steamos/windows machine http://www.digitalstormonline.com/steam-machine.asp
[18:59] <Azelphur> oO
[19:00] <directhex> "Instead of competing with console pricing, we're focusing on PC gaming's biggest advantage, raw performance"
[19:00] <Azelphur> :)
[19:01] <directhex> their cheapest machine starts at $700
[19:01] <directhex> so i'd expect this box to start at higher
[19:01] <directhex> (cheap pc uses off the shelf case, this has a custom case)
[19:02] <directhex> their "console size" box starts at $1240
[19:02] <directhex> http://www.digitalstormonline.com/bolt.asp
[19:12] <daftykins> they look kinda nice
[20:25] <popey> ooh http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/11/5201030/steamos-will-be-available-to-download-on-december-13th
[20:28] <gordonjcp> !
[20:28] <gordonjcp> popey: gosh, that's Friday
[20:28] <gordonjcp> I have the long weekend off
[20:28] <gordonjcp> s/the/a/
[21:20] <dwatkins> I wonder if it'll run on my Kerbal Space Program simulator.
[21:22] <mralc> evening
[21:23] <MartijnVdS> evening mr alc
[21:25] <dwatkins> hiya
[21:25] <mralc> is there any other linux event/conferences other oggcamp held in the uk?
[21:25]  * dwatkins realises his mind hasn't really left the office yet
[21:26] <popey> There's emfcamp
[21:26] <popey> and FLOSSUK
[21:26] <MartijnVdS> that sounds like a dentists' conference though
[21:29] <mralc> lol
[21:29] <mralc> thanks for the info