=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [05:34] https://twitter.com/search?q=%23FiveTechWordHorrors&src=hash [05:39] "i have a website idea" [05:41] "you have a backup, right?" [06:50] 1 more day of work [06:50] ;DDDDD [06:52] morning [06:52] morning [06:52] MartijnVdS, who you flying with? [07:07] morning [07:07] how are you knightwise [07:09] hey MooDoo :) Up early as usual .. and how are you this fine morning ? [07:09] knightwise: busy at work.....well luckily not too busy [07:10] wish i was so lucky [07:11] just switched over the wan connection for ALL our company sites [07:11] new internet firewall and gateway for 2600 users + narrowcasting screens, ip cams etc .. across 105 locations [07:12] ouch [07:13] need a tea boy I'm sure I could help :) [07:13] just trod in a poo in my slippers that the dog left me [07:13] Lol :) You are in the netherlands too right ? [07:13] foobarry: ewwwwwwwwww [07:13] knightwise: it's only a short walk to schipol airport then a short stroll to you right? ;) [07:13] been clearing up for last 20 mins [07:14] Eindhoven , near the airport for me [07:14] foobarry: I feel your pain [07:14] and 'ick' [07:14] it'll take me a bout 6 months to save for the airfair, 7 weeks to walk to the air port, so I'll see you late 2014, that ok? ;) [07:15] MooDoo: where are you at ? [07:15] nottingham, midlands [07:15] ahaaaa [07:15] Its MartijnVdS who is a Dutchie [07:15] I keep forgetting [07:15] nationalities don't mean much online anyway [07:15] :) [07:15] nah not really [07:15] both funny languages [07:16] I speak flemish, french, english and german [07:16] dutch/flemish is almost the same [07:16] fluent? [07:16] Yep [07:16] theres a whole world of other jobs available if u are fluent [07:16] english almost native, french pretty fluent, flemisch is my native tongue and i'm pretty good at german [07:17] working in banks IT is a bonus [07:17] and since i've worked in the netherlands for 3 years I also know the differences between dutch and flemish vocabulary [07:17] MartijnVdS, ?? [07:17] yep [07:18] knightwise, you live in Amsterdam? [07:18] nice [07:21] I live in Belgium (mid-east) [07:21] i work in eindhoven [07:22] aha [07:22] nice [07:22] so you're from Belgium? [07:24] Correct [07:24] nice [07:24] dont theyt speak dutch there also? [07:25] flemish and dutch is almost the same [07:25] in belgium we speak french, flemish and german [07:25] but not everyone is trilinual [07:25] oh [07:25] i thought dutch was one of their languages [07:25] i see [07:26] http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081017193918AAYCOHI [07:29] you know leidseplein? [07:41] mapps: yeah, I'm about 2km away ;) [07:42] aha [07:42] MartijnVdS, [07:42] so youve been there [07:42] where's good to go? [07:42] mapps: for food? [07:42] im staying there.. [07:42] for everything..food for drinks/clubs at night [07:42] like where do locals go.. [07:42] i dont wanna go to some club where its just tourists [07:43] mapps: follow the red lights :-p [07:43] lol [07:43] mapps: Alberto's in the "Korte Leidsedwarsstraat" -- http://www.albertossteakhouse.nl/ [07:43] a steak house! [07:43] diddledan: you know *only* tourists go there right :) [07:43] already sounds good:D [07:43] steak awesome! [07:43] ya [07:44] but where for the night MartijnVdS where to go to partyyy [07:44] MartijnVdS: d'oh [07:44] thats not just a tourist trap! [07:44] i dont want no 10 euros a beer;p [07:44] mapps: you want to be mugged? [07:44] I'm sure there's a biker bar that'ld love to have a tourist [07:45] LOL [07:45] mapps: hm, that link isn't right.. [07:45] no thanks diddledan [07:45] it worked here MartijnVdS [07:45] mapps: you want the one at "Korte Leidsedwarsstraat 26" [07:45] aha [07:45] mapps: yeah but I think it's the wrong place :) [07:45] and what club around lederpslein is good to go [07:46] where do ducth guys and gals go [07:46] mapps: a few meters further down the street there's a whisk(e)y bar :) [07:46] if you're into that [07:46] its crap going to total tourist bars [07:46] are there any casinos? [07:46] they're normally open late [07:46] mapps: except in Amsterdam they aren't ;) [07:46] oh [07:46] :) [07:47] what about hm [07:47] mapps: if you want to dance/club/etc. go to the Rembrandtplein area, I guess [07:47] i came across some clubs [07:47] I don't know names or which ones are good [07:47] ya [07:47] but I hear that that's where they are [07:47] but only if locals go..its crap when its a tourist trap [07:47] yea [07:47] Good morning [07:47] morning [07:47] howdy popey [07:47] i need to look at tickets for wimbledon this year [07:47] wanna go to as many matches as i can this time [07:48] put my name down for the draw for wc tickets but i guess didnt get any;/ [07:54] ooo how old - http://web.archive.org/web/20041014050911/http://www.ubuntu.com/ [07:55] circles, circles everywhere! [07:55] also, Plone [07:55] good morning everyone. [07:55] morning [07:56] morning mapps [07:57] hey brobostigon [07:57] hey knightwise [07:58] morning brobostigon [07:58] morning MooDoo [07:59] two weeks, and i can get my hands on my pebble, :) [07:59] nice [07:59] brobostigon: you could just go outside and pick one up from the street :P [07:59] but what do you need it for [07:59] heh [08:00] MartijnVdS: haha :) [08:00] check out MartijnVdS with the jokes;p [08:00] mapps: you call that a joke? ;) [08:00] well [08:00] i thought it was :O( [08:00] mapps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTR2tVr2a6A&list=PLMs_JcuNozJYOfHXHGTtHse4XYvnygc8A [08:00] mapps: jokes! [08:00] mapps: i needed a new watch so i thought, why not get something different, :) [08:00] :) [08:01] brobostigon: any special plans for it? (hacking its firmware, stuff like that) [08:01] brobostigon: or are you keeping it "stock" for the time being [08:01] MartijnVdS: i didnt know you could actually do that, good to know, :) [08:02] brobostigon: I don't know if you can, but it has a processor, so why not [08:02] i think something like a MB of storage, so plenty of space. [08:02] you mean GB? [08:03] rtos i believe. [08:08] i cant find the page now, but it isnt very much apparently. [08:12] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiyRNyLkELg nice [08:15] Morning all [08:16] morning diplo popey [08:21] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkndVzfOeRc [08:21] busy busy [08:22] Xmas just around the corner..then ive gotta try and get a glastonbury ticket;/ [08:22] first time i didnt get one in 6 years! === iahmad_ is now known as iahmad|afk [08:34] hey guys [08:34] quick technical question [08:34] i need to find out from what IP address i'm approaching a certain website [08:34] but i'm in a citrix desktop session so I don't have any command line access [08:35] or dosbox [08:35] any idea how i can find that out ? [08:35] cant you just use a website like whatismyip.com [08:35] mapps , agreed [08:35] but ... [08:35] did i miss something sorry [08:35] the proxy might be set to only proxy for some sites.. [08:36] thought yousaid no command line? can you not load a browser? [08:36] ah [08:36] Normally all my traffic goes through a proxy [08:36] exxcept that one site [08:36] knightwise: if you have control over the server, you can put a small script there that tells you [08:36] so thats the one I need to find out. [08:36] No control over the server :( [08:36] knightwise: put the server in your /etc/hosts, pointing to 127.0.0.1 [08:36] knightwise: if you end up at 127.0.0.1, the proxy is not used [08:37] if you don't the proxy IS used, and you can use whatsmyip.com :) [08:37] As I said , i'm only a thin client user on that server , so I have no access rights whatsoever [08:37] that might give you a false positive, most systems know to skip the proxy for local addresses [08:37] shauno: also, NAT [08:37] Is an "online traceroute" something that works ? [08:37] knightwise: only from the website it's on [08:38] knightwise: (it traces from the server the traceroute script runs on) [08:38] damn ... [08:38] also not what I need [08:38] knightwise: what OS are you on? [08:39] knightwise: there might be flash versions of those tools, those work client side [08:39] knightwise: or in a java applet [08:39] I'll give it a try [08:41] morning all [08:51] hmm [08:51] Juventus game yesterday was odd eh [08:51] being replayed at1pm uk time too what a bad time choice === msm is now known as Guest33310 [09:06] meh [09:09] Myrtti: hug [09:14] oh but now I remember what I have about today to be happy about! [09:14] new (to us) car day! [09:14] yaya [09:17] ugh, a colleague of mine has put on the limp bizcuit version of behind blue eyes, and frankly it is making me feel sick [09:20] I knew there was another version than the Limp Bizkit one but I forgot which one was original... my mind must be slipping [09:20] and yes, no matter what version of the song is playing, I get nauseous too [09:27] Good morning all; happy Mountain Day! :-D [09:30] Gotta love this: "UK prepares to launch internet archive without internet access" http://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240210795/UK-prepares-to-launch-internet-archive-without-internet-access doh! [09:34] good morning all [09:40] Ah well, another day in work, time to start another audiobook to stop me from falling asleep [09:58] free hugs, MooDoo ? [09:59] diddledan: yeah why the heck not :F [09:59] :D [09:59] sweet [10:00] JamesTait: mountain day? [10:00] diddledan, http://www.fao.org/forestry/internationalmountainday/en/ [10:55] hmmm anyone up for a ubuntu uk christmas google + hangout a week on sunday 22nd? could be a giggle :D [10:57] why not [10:57] * MartijnVdS has a webcam and 100mbit internet ;) [10:57] might send it to the mailing list..... [10:59] MartijnVdS: you on Virgin? [10:59] dogmatic69: nah, I'm in the Netherlands :) [11:00] ah [11:00] dogmatic69: on XS4ALL [11:00] dogmatic69: with FttH, so 100/100 symmetric [11:00] * dogmatic69 has 100mbit too :) [11:00] only 10 upload though :/ [11:00] Morning all [11:01] morning davmor2 [11:02] Hey MooDoo how's Life [11:03] I hate multilingualising [11:03] dogmatic69: I'll be getting 500/500 :) [11:03] davmor2: brill thanks, just sent a email to the mailing list :) how are you sir? [11:03] diddledan: what's wrong with multilingualism? [11:04] MartijnVdS: Do you know you can get to not like some people [11:04] :) [11:04] MOO! [11:04] turns out that I need to change my doodah because the client insists on it being a different format to what I'd speficied - i.e. I've given them two phone number slots, they only want to use one despite the original spec requiring two [11:04] DOO [11:04] put it together and you got MOODOO [11:04] awwww shucks you guys ;) [11:05] MartijnVdS: I got a email saying I get free upgrade to 120 soon :P [11:05] dogmatic69: virgin? [11:05] yep [11:05] aah [11:05] <-- sky [11:05] I got 40megalumps [11:06] * diplo if lucky gets 8mb on Sky [11:06] I want moar [11:06] diddledan: the difference between virgin and is that on speed test I get 101.xxmbit on a 100mbit line [11:06] lol [11:06] Can get Fibre, but not sure I want to upgrade an dbe tied for another year so pondering.. [11:06] diddledan: I also get 25/25 on 4G [11:06] ouch [11:06] that's fast wirelesses [11:06] MartijnVdS: Again, you can go off some people :) [11:07] never had any broadband that came close to the advertised speed [11:07] before virgin that is [11:07] diplo: 4G speeds should be similar everywhere, right? [11:07] diplo: it's the same tech [11:07] http://www.speedtest.net/result/3158299347.png \o/ [11:07] 60 megalumps [11:08] popey: you only just been updated or something? [11:08] that's a lotta lumps [11:08] MooDoo: oh exciting [11:09] diplo: 4g should go upto around 100mbit on mobile [11:09] in ideal conditions etc [11:10] ideal being sat at the foot od the tower [11:10] actually that's probably one of the worst places for reception [11:10] dogmatic69: isn't that LTE-Advanced? [11:10] dogmatic69: with "normal" LTE being up to 50? [11:11] popey: http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3158303941 [11:11] Long-Term Evolution my foot! [11:11] diddledan: yes, that's how it came about ;) [11:11] heh [11:11] MartijnVdS: ah, seems so [11:11] sigh @ people who name standards: [11:11] Simultaneous voice and LTE (SVLTE) [11:12] seems LTE normal is 300 on wiki [11:12] "Peak download rates up to 299.6 Mbit/s and upload rates up to 75.4 Mbit/s depending on the user equipment category" [11:12] dogmatic69: then Vodafone is probably limiting it here :) [11:12] ye, overselling [11:12] dogmatic69: also, 20MHz of spectrum is a lot, and nobody has 4x4 antennas [11:12] yeah a lot of corps are artificially limiting it [11:13] diddledan: that is how de beers made diamonds expenisve [11:13] oldest trick in the book [11:13] they wouldn't be able to cope with the bandwidth (bits per second not wireless bandwidth) required for everyone to be on marked speeds [11:16] that's a funky word: Boodschap [11:16] MartijnVdS: what does it actually translate to? [11:16] I've got it down as translation of "message" [11:17] diddledan: yes, it's "message" [11:17] Good morning peeps :) [11:17] davmor2: still going to the LUG meal tonight, or ditching it to see Sarah Millican instead? [11:18] that's good, I'm still in sync with the actual content vs the foreign translation that doesn't include reference to what the translation is actually translating [11:18] Or when you go shopping, that's "boodschappen (doen)" [11:19] lol, Onderwerp, sounds like "under wear" [11:19] bigcalm: the LUG it will be funnier, I have cards to write :) [11:19] Erm, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-25330237 I must be missing something, how do blobs on a piece of paper become worth ~£15,000 each, I must get some new colour inks for my printer, I've got a ream of paper here, 500 * £15,000 = Loaded [11:19] diddledan: Well "onder" means "below", just like "sub" in subject [11:19] aha [11:19] it all makes sense [11:20] davmor2: ack, me too [11:20] diddledan: it's a translation from Latin from the 1500s [11:21] I guess I need to learn latin >.< [11:21] :-p [11:21] those damned italians [11:22] diddledan: learning about the indo-european roots of all those languages would be even more useful [11:22] diddledan: and/or the various vowel and consontant shifts [11:22] -t [11:22] continent shifts? :-p [11:22] diddledan: those too, but that's a different subject :) [11:22] lol [11:23] diddledan: http://historyofenglishpodcast.com/ ;) [11:24] as apple would say: there's a podcast for that [11:24] but they wouldn't because they can't scrape any money off podcasts [11:25] actually they might be working on a way to do so. that would be a money spinner. [11:26] imagine. you can publish your podcast anywhere but when apple drives listeners to your podcast you must pay apple 30% of any advertising or direct revenue from that user [11:26] like ebooks or apps that have a webstore built in [11:27] diddledan: I've heard a few ads in podcasts, they just play it at the start/end and/or the presenters do some promotion for a service and give a discount code [11:27] diddledan: the "history of english" guy made a "history of the alphabet" series you can pay for [11:27] diddledan: and another podcast I listen to is kickstartering its second season [11:42] popey: ah poo didn't know hangouts on air was 18+ doesn't the normal hangout only have a set amount of people that can join or has that limit been removed? [11:43] they both have a limit of 15 at a time AIUI [11:43] ah === iahmad|afk is now known as iahmad === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk [12:03] does this link work on ubuntu? http://www.channel5.com/shows/the-great-christmas-toy-giveaway/episodes/the-great-christmas-toy-giveaway [12:04] the programme fails to play...first time i tried a c5 prog [12:07] doesnt work here [12:07] but odd since it's flash [12:08] well, not that odd === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g [12:31] christmas tree! [13:08] http://www.neuroproductions.be/arduino/arduino-video-game/ [13:08] fun [13:08] I would guess it's DRM protected [13:09] some DRMs work on ubuntu if you install the hal package, but 13.10 doesn't include such a beast === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:22] i am on 1204 with hal [13:22] doesnt work on android either === msm is now known as Guest13753 === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:16] AlanBell: are you able to help the person in ubuntu-irc re the bot? [14:26] popey: Anything remotely interesting about this Press [14:26] Release? http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/sap-increases-focus-on-developer-experience-and-makes-key-open-source-contributions-235346121.html [14:31] not for non-SAP users, no. [14:32] ty [14:36] openui5 looks interesting === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [14:42] it had to be done, didn't it - the html5 starwarts intro: https://openui5.hana.ondemand.com/test-resources/sap/m/demokit/explored/index.html [14:48] davmor2: What's Ron's wife's name? [14:48] bigcalm: Mel [14:49] davmor2: ta [14:49] davmor2: who is SimonB (on the list)? [14:50] bigcalm: Blond haired cyclist who normally brings Sam his girlfriend [14:51] davmor2: but only turns up at the xmas meal? The name and description really doesn't ring a bell [14:51] A little offtopic, but anyone have any suggestions on how I might resolve this Skype on Android problem? https://www.dropbox.com/s/oexqae0ap5ih3on/2013-12-11%2003.14.03.mp4 [14:51] by using Google Hangouts [14:52] bigcalm: he normally turns up a few times in the year but hasn't this year [14:52] MartijnVdS: that was pretty much my assessment. [14:52] xD [14:52] davmor2: righto [15:03] Azelphur: that's microsoft's secret ploy to make you buy a windows phone [15:03] lol [15:03] oooh oooh Dell Chromebook [15:03] oooh [15:03] http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/11/5199524/dell-chromebook-11-first-chrome-os-laptop [15:03] wait, what? [15:03] http://www.pcworld.com/article/2079040/dell-to-add-chromebook-11-looks-beyond-windows-and-android.html [15:05] meh, I need to be able to run a webserver on my local system along with version control and the like - chromebooks just don't appeal to me [15:11] i havent found someone yet who *only* uses the net, without occasional other bits and bobs [15:12] the fact they sell them in netbook size suggests its a companion to other computing devices you already have [15:14] could that dell pic be any more multi cultural? [15:25] my mum would probably be fine with a chromebook === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea [15:33] my mum also likes scanning/picasa/printing. the g+ photo app seems lame [15:36] most people with simple uses i've seen with chromebooks have ended up wanting more, then they've modded Ubuntu onto them :D === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [15:37] popey: did wifey sanction the scalextric? [15:39] not spoken about it yet [15:41] foobarry: *veto [15:41] :) [15:49] verb [15:49] 1. [15:49] give official permission or approval for (an action). [15:49] a constitutional right to reject a decision or proposal made by a lawmaking body. [15:49] according to Google [15:49] or "a rejection by right of veto. [15:50] or "any ban or prohibition." [15:50] Somebody (not me) should set-up a RPi and webcam to play scalextric against a human. Reacting to impending corners and proximity to other cars. Sending control signals either directly to the track or via an actuator to vary pressure on a controller [15:51] bigcalm: why not you? [15:51] MartijnVdS: lack of time and Scalextric ;) [15:53] hah [15:53] i like that idea [15:54] then setup two and have them race eachother [15:54] be fun for sam to have someone to race against ☻ [16:12] What's the default MTA on ubuntu server? [16:13] Ah, postfix [16:17] exit [16:17] oops [16:17] ttfn [16:18] It's Thing 2's Nativity play this evening. [16:18] He's doing the sound :-) [16:18] Try not to embarrass them too much [16:18] Humf [16:44] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25338591 [16:45] Smartphone users will be able to build playlists of songs and then hear them played back in a random order. Tablet users will have more control, letting them select specific tracks [16:45] everybody asking questions about build.prop tweaks in 3...2...1 [16:45] (also surge in paranoidandroid users in 3...2...1) [16:46] Azelphur: :D [16:46] yeah i read that bit and thought - wait who wants that? but maybe it's talking features rather than play style [16:47] sigh at being asked to be a human spam filter again today [16:47] forwarded a 'FedEx' email and asked if it is legit [16:47] ¬_¬ [16:47] lol [16:48]