| mdeslaur | mlankhorst: yeah, problem is, now that it's known, every security researcher is going to be poking at it until someone posts an exploit | 01:37 |
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| mdeslaur | mlankhorst: so the difficulty buys us time, but I'll have to get around to it eventually | 01:38 |
| mdeslaur | mlankhorst: thanks!, I'll ask him | 01:39 |
| * RAOF checks logs for context | 01:44 | |
| RAOF | Ah, the nvidia video decoding microcode. | 01:46 |
| mlankhorst | mdeslaur: good luck, it's not trivial ;) | 07:42 |
| Prf_Jakob | mlankhorst: I see that libxatracker2 has landed in 14.04 | 13:14 |
| mlankhorst | yeah, I pushed a vmware snapshot to make things work | 13:17 |
| mdeslaur | mlankhorst: hehe, thanks | 13:28 |
| mdeslaur | tseliot: can I ask you a few questions about the nvidia drivers? | 13:28 |
| mdeslaur | so...looking at http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3377 | 13:28 |
| mdeslaur | seems there are new 331 319 and 304 drivers | 13:29 |
| mdeslaur | but, I'm looking at the zillion packages we have to update in the archive | 13:29 |
| mdeslaur | what do we do with the 310 and 313 packages? | 13:29 |
| mdeslaur | update them to 319? | 13:29 |
| mdeslaur | leave as-is without telling the user they have a security issue? | 13:29 |
| tseliot | mdeslaur: speaking of 12.04, I'm going to update 319 to 331 (with the fix) and 304 to the latest 304 (with the fix). The rest should be transitional packages | 13:31 |
| tseliot | I'll do something similar in 14.04 | 13:32 |
| tseliot | I'm not sure about 13.04 and 13.10 though | 13:32 |
| mdeslaur | tseliot: interesting, cool | 13:34 |
| tseliot | mdeslaur: maybe I can prepare some packages for 13.04 and 13.10 so that they go through the -security repositories, well, as soon as I'm done with 12.04 that is | 13:35 |
| mdeslaur | tseliot: perhaps the 12.04 ones should go through -security too? | 13:36 |
| mdeslaur | although, doing them as SRU might make sense also, given that I'm really afraid of regressions | 13:36 |
| tseliot | mdeslaur: the main problem is that I've been working on an SRU that I want to complete this week and it involves much more than a simple update | 13:37 |
| tseliot | going through -security first and rebasing my SRU on that would probably double my workload | 13:37 |
| mdeslaur | tseliot: that's fine, continue as an SRU | 13:38 |
| tseliot | mdeslaur: ok, good | 13:38 |
| mdeslaur | I'll wait to see your packages, thanks! | 13:38 |
| tjaalton | mlankhorst: both 1190546 and 1185035 seem to be still stuck on -proposed (raring) | 14:45 |
| tjaalton | hmm or maybe not, the bugs are still open though | 14:46 |
| mlankhorst | meh I'll need to verify that | 14:46 |
| tjaalton | also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpciaccess/+bug/1122072 looks confusing | 14:48 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1122072 in libpciaccess (Ubuntu Quantal) "[Precise on VirtualBox] "Fatal server error: no screen found" in Xorg.0.log" [Undecided,New] | 14:48 |
| tjaalton | there's a quantal xserver with that bug id | 14:48 |
| tjaalton | in proposed | 14:48 |
| tjaalton | a typo? | 14:48 |
| tjaalton | cleaning up open tabs and noticed these | 14:49 |
| mlankhorst | meh dno | 15:02 |
| mlankhorst | ok verifying raring stuff after I installed nvidia-319... | 15:20 |
| tomreyn | hi, do you folks have some statistics about hardware and driver spread which you could make available to the world? | 15:28 |
| mlankhorst | no, but you could try the steam survey | 15:28 |
| tomreyn | http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/ only has windows and mac | 15:30 |
| tomreyn | is this the one you meant? | 15:31 |
| mlankhorst | yeah, but not sure why linux stats would be much different from windows | 15:31 |
| tomreyn | i guess linux users may tend to have older hardware, and maybe a little bit more hardware which is known to be well supported on linux. | 15:33 |
| mlankhorst | tjaalton: well verification seems to fail, i wonder how because I knwo it fixed things before :/ | 16:14 |
| mlankhorst | tseliot: can we simply point those who have hybrid cards to saucy xserver? | 16:17 |
| tseliot | mlankhorst: as in the documentation (wiki or whatever)? | 16:17 |
| mlankhorst | yeah | 16:18 |
| tseliot | yes, that's exactly what I was planning to do | 16:18 |
| mlankhorst | dpms still seems to be broken for some reason | 16:18 |
| tseliot | are you using modesettings? | 16:19 |
| tseliot | it works fine here | 16:19 |
| mlankhorst | tseliot: raring? | 16:19 |
| tseliot | mlankhorst: hybrid graphics is officially supported in 12.04.3 and kind of supported in 13.10, what does 13.04 have to do with this? | 16:20 |
| mlankhorst | erm raring xserver = 12.04.3 right? | 16:20 |
| tseliot | mlankhorst: ok, so the lts-raring xserver, yes, that's what I use in 12.04 | 16:21 |
| tseliot | and I always have to disable screen blanking because it's annoying ;) | 16:22 |
| mlankhorst | yeah, we should recommend upgrading to saucy though | 16:23 |
| mlankhorst | much much better support | 16:23 |
| tseliot | mlankhorst: maybe it's failing because the gsd fails and my update hasn't landed in precise yet | 16:23 |
| tseliot | agreed | 16:23 |
| tseliot | if they want output hotplug (and probably more) that's the way to go | 16:24 |
| tseliot | or, even better, 14.04 ;) | 16:24 |
| mlankhorst | oh well, verified the raring stuff | 16:24 |
| tseliot | I'm running tests for the huge SRU in bug #1259237 | 16:26 |
| ubottu | bug 1259237 in screen-resolution-extra (Ubuntu Precise) "Hybrid graphics enablement in 12.04.4" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1259237 | 16:26 |
| mlankhorst | tseliot: yeah it's sad that we still have no online switching, but the experience in saucy is definitely a lot better | 16:29 |
| mlankhorst | quantal, it works if you're lucky and once in a blue moon, raring it actually works if you don't poke it too hard, saucy it actually works, but no online switching yet | 16:30 |
| tseliot | mlankhorst: yes, I don't think X will ever get that feature. This will do for now. Also, if we could get rid of tearing... | 16:30 |
| mlankhorst | haha I'll poke upstream some more | 16:30 |
| tseliot | :) | 16:30 |
| tseliot | aaronp is on paternity leave | 16:31 |
| tseliot | so maybe when he's back you two can talk about it | 16:31 |
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| tjaalton | nice, x cursor on every vt on saucy, session somehow fooked | 18:31 |
| tjaalton | wife tried to log in from the indicator | 18:32 |
| tjaalton | reproducible too | 18:35 |
| tjaalton | failed to claim drm device, wth.. | 18:37 |
| tjaalton | some permissions issue, reboot fixed it of course.. | 18:55 |
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