[01:37] mlankhorst: yeah, problem is, now that it's known, every security researcher is going to be poking at it until someone posts an exploit [01:38] mlankhorst: so the difficulty buys us time, but I'll have to get around to it eventually [01:39] mlankhorst: thanks!, I'll ask him [01:44] * RAOF checks logs for context [01:46] Ah, the nvidia video decoding microcode. [07:42] mdeslaur: good luck, it's not trivial ;) [13:14] mlankhorst: I see that libxatracker2 has landed in 14.04 [13:17] yeah, I pushed a vmware snapshot to make things work [13:28] mlankhorst: hehe, thanks [13:28] tseliot: can I ask you a few questions about the nvidia drivers? [13:28] so...looking at http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3377 [13:29] seems there are new 331 319 and 304 drivers [13:29] but, I'm looking at the zillion packages we have to update in the archive [13:29] what do we do with the 310 and 313 packages? [13:29] update them to 319? [13:29] leave as-is without telling the user they have a security issue? [13:31] mdeslaur: speaking of 12.04, I'm going to update 319 to 331 (with the fix) and 304 to the latest 304 (with the fix). The rest should be transitional packages [13:32] I'll do something similar in 14.04 [13:32] I'm not sure about 13.04 and 13.10 though [13:34] tseliot: interesting, cool [13:35] mdeslaur: maybe I can prepare some packages for 13.04 and 13.10 so that they go through the -security repositories, well, as soon as I'm done with 12.04 that is [13:36] tseliot: perhaps the 12.04 ones should go through -security too? [13:36] although, doing them as SRU might make sense also, given that I'm really afraid of regressions [13:37] mdeslaur: the main problem is that I've been working on an SRU that I want to complete this week and it involves much more than a simple update [13:37] going through -security first and rebasing my SRU on that would probably double my workload [13:38] tseliot: that's fine, continue as an SRU [13:38] mdeslaur: ok, good [13:38] I'll wait to see your packages, thanks! [14:45] mlankhorst: both 1190546 and 1185035 seem to be still stuck on -proposed (raring) [14:46] hmm or maybe not, the bugs are still open though [14:46] meh I'll need to verify that [14:48] also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpciaccess/+bug/1122072 looks confusing [14:48] Ubuntu bug 1122072 in libpciaccess (Ubuntu Quantal) "[Precise on VirtualBox] "Fatal server error: no screen found" in Xorg.0.log" [Undecided,New] [14:48] there's a quantal xserver with that bug id [14:48] in proposed [14:48] a typo? [14:49] cleaning up open tabs and noticed these [15:02] meh dno [15:20] ok verifying raring stuff after I installed nvidia-319... [15:28] hi, do you folks have some statistics about hardware and driver spread which you could make available to the world? [15:28] no, but you could try the steam survey [15:30] http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/ only has windows and mac [15:31] is this the one you meant? [15:31] yeah, but not sure why linux stats would be much different from windows [15:33] i guess linux users may tend to have older hardware, and maybe a little bit more hardware which is known to be well supported on linux. [16:14] tjaalton: well verification seems to fail, i wonder how because I knwo it fixed things before :/ [16:17] tseliot: can we simply point those who have hybrid cards to saucy xserver? [16:17] mlankhorst: as in the documentation (wiki or whatever)? [16:18] yeah [16:18] yes, that's exactly what I was planning to do [16:18] dpms still seems to be broken for some reason [16:19] are you using modesettings? [16:19] it works fine here [16:19] tseliot: raring? [16:20] mlankhorst: hybrid graphics is officially supported in 12.04.3 and kind of supported in 13.10, what does 13.04 have to do with this? [16:20] erm raring xserver = 12.04.3 right? [16:21] mlankhorst: ok, so the lts-raring xserver, yes, that's what I use in 12.04 [16:22] and I always have to disable screen blanking because it's annoying ;) [16:23] yeah, we should recommend upgrading to saucy though [16:23] much much better support [16:23] mlankhorst: maybe it's failing because the gsd fails and my update hasn't landed in precise yet [16:23] agreed [16:24] if they want output hotplug (and probably more) that's the way to go [16:24] or, even better, 14.04 ;) [16:24] oh well, verified the raring stuff [16:26] I'm running tests for the huge SRU in bug #1259237 [16:26] bug 1259237 in screen-resolution-extra (Ubuntu Precise) "Hybrid graphics enablement in 12.04.4" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1259237 [16:29] tseliot: yeah it's sad that we still have no online switching, but the experience in saucy is definitely a lot better [16:30] quantal, it works if you're lucky and once in a blue moon, raring it actually works if you don't poke it too hard, saucy it actually works, but no online switching yet [16:30] mlankhorst: yes, I don't think X will ever get that feature. This will do for now. Also, if we could get rid of tearing... [16:30] haha I'll poke upstream some more [16:30] :) [16:31] aaronp is on paternity leave [16:31] so maybe when he's back you two can talk about it === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson [18:31] nice, x cursor on every vt on saucy, session somehow fooked [18:32] wife tried to log in from the indicator [18:35] reproducible too [18:37] failed to claim drm device, wth.. [18:55] some permissions issue, reboot fixed it of course..