| nuvolari | o/ mornings | 05:05 |
|---|---|---|
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning | 06:08 |
| Squirm | morning | 06:21 |
| Squirm | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKcxuGf_24Q - Not quite quadcopter, but some more clips :P | 06:21 |
| Squirm | it's raw footage, so please excuse the other stuff :P | 06:21 |
| magespawn | good morning | 06:35 |
| Kilos | morning superfly and others | 06:55 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 06:55 |
| Squirm | morning Kilos | 07:17 |
| Squirm | superfly | 07:17 |
| superfly | hi Squirm | 07:17 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 Squirm ThatGraemeGuy | 07:17 |
| Vince-0 | Hi | 07:18 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | hello | 07:23 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 08:40 |
| magespawn | howdy all | 08:51 |
| Kilos | hi inetpro magespawn | 09:08 |
| Kilos | sorry i was afk | 09:09 |
| Kilos | busy cooking and all | 09:09 |
| Kilos | hi psyatw | 09:26 |
| psyatw | hi Kilos | 09:28 |
| charl | hi Kilos, psyatw, magespawn | 09:31 |
| Kilos | hi charl | 09:31 |
| charl | hi inetpro, Vince-0, superfly, Squirm | 09:32 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 09:32 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 09:32 | |
| charl | how's it going Kilos | 09:32 |
| Kilos | good ty charl and there? | 09:32 |
| charl | good thanks | 09:32 |
| psyatw | hi charl | 09:33 |
| charl | oh whow this is shocking | 09:33 |
| charl | http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/657386-selfies-at-funerals | 09:33 |
| charl | "From left: British PM David Cameron, Danish PM Helle Thorning Schmidt and U.S. President Barack Obama pose for a group selfie during today?s memorial service for Nelson Mandela in South Africa." | 09:34 |
| charl | what are these idiots thinking | 09:34 |
| psyatw | nothing better than doing stuff for self-serving purposes, right? | 09:35 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 09:36 |
| charl | Maaz: thanks | 09:38 |
| Maaz | charl: Okay :-) | 09:38 |
| charl | whow but that is just shocking, what were they thinking | 09:38 |
| charl | acting like a bunch of monkeys at a funeral | 09:38 |
| magespawn | Hey Kilos charl | 09:50 |
| magespawn | can anyone recommend some good, reliable free/low cost VPS services? | 09:51 |
| Kilos | where magespawn ? | 10:02 |
| Kilos | local or anywhere | 10:02 |
| Kilos | do you want to make a site or what | 10:04 |
| magespawn | local if possible but it is not serious | 10:04 |
| magespawn | i want to set up a ubuntu server with quassel and opencloud | 10:04 |
| Kilos | ah | 10:05 |
| magespawn | so i was looking for some recommendations cause quite often the experience can be very different | 10:10 |
| Kilos | magespawn, look at this one and tell me what one can do there | 10:34 |
| Kilos | http://www.weebly.com/weebly/userHome.php?page=domains | 10:34 |
| Kilos | i started making site but dunno what to do | 10:34 |
| Kilos | so dont know if it just hosts a site for you or what | 10:35 |
| Kilos | now i get a mail every week saying my site aint published yet and mails about how to make it do more | 10:39 |
| Kilos | hehe | 10:39 |
| charl | magespawn: hetzner germany | 11:13 |
| charl | magespawn: charl.eu runs on a vps that costs 7,90 euro per month | 11:13 |
| charl | magespawn: been running it for almost two years and have had very few issues thus far | 11:14 |
| charl | magespawn: also supports ipv6 and the latest ubuntu (13.10) if you want | 11:14 |
| charl | magespawn: also the ability to set reverse dns | 11:14 |
| Vince-0 | I bought a vps on cloudatcost.com | 11:31 |
| Vince-0 | was $4 per month bought in 2 years - 4 vCPU, Debian 7 | 11:31 |
| Vince-0 | but that special is over now | 11:32 |
| georgl | magespawn: try http://www.digitalocean.com | 12:00 |
| charl | whow these people are ridiculously cheap | 12:18 |
| charl | how can they even make ends meet | 12:18 |
| charl | $1 per month?! | 12:19 |
| magespawn | Thanks for the suggestions guys | 12:42 |
| charl | np :) | 13:03 |
| magespawn | Vince-0, they still have some nice specials | 13:46 |
| magespawn | Kilos was that site for your book? | 13:46 |
| Kilos | yes magespawn | 13:47 |
| magespawn | this is a good learning curve then | 13:48 |
| Kilos | hehe | 13:52 |
| Vince-0 | magespawn, latency to Canada is a bit kak from the ass end of the world though | 13:54 |
| Vince-0 | 285ms today is as good as it gets | 13:55 |
| magespawn | ah well we have to take the good with the bad | 13:56 |
| Vince-0 | there's some local guys who run isoho.st | 14:07 |
| Vince-0 | that's local | 14:07 |
| Vince-0 | they use spice | 14:08 |
| Vince-0 | I forget the guy's name | 14:08 |
| charl | been configuring prosody like mad the last day but got it working nicely now https://xmpp.net/result.php?domain=charl.eu&type=client | 14:18 |
| charl | i'm scoring better than the vast majority of other xmpp servers | 14:18 |
| charl | upgraded my ssl key from 2048 to 4096 bits | 14:18 |
| charl | and had to disable sslv3 and some bad cipher | 14:19 |
| charl | heh, i see swissjabber also moved over to prosody now https://xmpp.net/result.php?domain=swissjabber.ch&type=client | 14:25 |
| charl | they left all the ssl settings to the defaults though | 14:25 |
| charl | so they are slightly less secure than my current setup | 14:26 |
| magespawn | later all | 15:37 |
| Kilos | charl, are you working on that chat goodie? | 15:38 |
| Kilos | is that what you talking about | 15:39 |
| Kilos | inetpro, miskien moet jy ry | 15:42 |
| Kilos | dit kom van die suide lyk my | 15:42 |
| inetpro | ty Kilos | 15:47 |
| Kilos | yw sir | 15:48 |
| charl | Kilos: no this is standard xmpp | 15:56 |
| charl | Kilos: i got shot down on the idea so badly on #guardianproject that i kind-of got demotivated | 15:56 |
| Kilos | who are they? | 15:57 |
| charl | they have been working on end-to-end encryption (openpgp, otr etc) and voip on mobile phones | 15:57 |
| Kilos | ah | 15:58 |
| charl | they basically just told me to not start anything new and join an existing project | 15:58 |
| Kilos | otr is pretty good | 15:58 |
| Kilos | and dcc chat | 15:58 |
| charl | so i said that's great that's what i would also rather do if possible but there aren't any existing projects with enough overlap | 15:58 |
| charl | then they told me to go and work on some xmpp client | 15:58 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:58 |
| charl | and i was like eh that's not the idea | 15:58 |
| charl | but quite honestly i don't think they even attempted to understand what i was on about | 15:59 |
| Kilos | if you have it worked out in your head what you wanna do then go for it man | 15:59 |
| charl | yeah but i need time and i didn't want to create yet another one man project | 15:59 |
| Kilos | why not? | 15:59 |
| charl | because one man projects have a really bad record when it comes to being maintained over the long run | 16:00 |
| charl | and besides, the idea is not to fragment what's going on, the idea is to work on solid, practical and sustainable standards | 16:00 |
| Kilos | if its good when done then you dont need to share the praise | 16:00 |
| charl | lol it's not about credit :) | 16:00 |
| charl | although, having been through a bunch of job interviews recently, having some credit can be useful | 16:01 |
| Kilos | why not? | 16:01 |
| charl | i dunno... because i don't give a sh*t? :) i guess my ego doesn't need feeding? | 16:01 |
| Kilos | sigh | 16:02 |
| Kilos | its got nothing to do with ego man | 16:02 |
| charl | Kilos all i want is a good product, i don't care if my name is on it or not | 16:02 |
| Kilos | a job well done gives you self satisfaction | 16:02 |
| charl | yes, SELF satisfaction :) | 16:02 |
| charl | it's not about credit | 16:03 |
| Kilos | so do it for yourself then man | 16:03 |
| Kilos | grrr | 16:03 |
| charl | ok i get your point :) | 16:03 |
| Kilos | who knows, you might start a revolution | 16:03 |
| charl | maybe i let my sense of purpose run away with me sometimes | 16:03 |
| charl | yeah it starts with yourself right | 16:03 |
| Kilos | of course | 16:04 |
| charl | ok lemme not shelve it yet | 16:05 |
| Kilos | do it for yourself and keep notes so if you get outa your depth then you have the process to show when you ask for help somewhere | 16:05 |
| charl | besides, it's almost the middle of winter right now and i get some time on my hands | 16:05 |
| Kilos | youll waste the time riding around | 16:09 |
| Kilos | visiting old buildings and things | 16:09 |
| Kilos | sigh | 17:04 |
| Kilos | coupla boom booms ten drops rain and no power | 17:05 |
| Squirm | it poured here | 17:10 |
| Squirm | as it has done for the past 3 weeks | 17:10 |
| Squirm | every | 17:10 |
| Squirm | single | 17:10 |
| Squirm | day | 17:10 |
| Squirm | I haven't seen a day of sun in 3 weeks | 17:10 |
| Squirm | maybe 3 hours at max and not every day | 17:10 |
| Kilos | we had good rain resterday. maybe more to come tonight | 17:11 |
| nlsthzn | hello all o/ | 17:52 |
| Kilos | hiya nlsthzn | 17:55 |
| nlsthzn | how are you uncle Kilos? | 17:56 |
| nlsthzn | enjoying summer I hope | 17:56 |
| Kilos | very well ty nlsthzn and you lad? | 17:56 |
| nlsthzn | kyk noord en voeter voort | 17:56 |
| nlsthzn | :p | 17:56 |
| Kilos | was cooler yesterday and today but not bad | 17:56 |
| Kilos | hehe | 17:56 |
| Kilos | raining on and off now. waiting for power to go again | 17:57 |
| nlsthzn | well it getting nippy here | 17:57 |
| Kilos | what do you class as nippy? | 17:57 |
| Kilos | 25 | 17:57 |
| nlsthzn | lows reached 16... brrr..... | 17:58 |
| nlsthzn | 22 currently | 17:58 |
| Kilos | haha | 17:59 |
| nlsthzn | everyone walking around with jackets :p | 17:59 |
| Kilos | they'd suffer here in winter | 17:59 |
| nlsthzn | yup | 18:01 |
| * nlsthzn is eyeing the prospects of moving to someplace even colder... but it is a long shot... | 18:01 | |
| nlsthzn | then something like -30 isn't uncommon | 18:02 |
| nlsthzn | brrrrr..... | 18:02 |
| Kilos | oh my goodness | 18:02 |
| Kilos | youll freeze your nuts off | 18:02 |
| Kilos | where does it get so cold | 18:02 |
| nlsthzn | oh many places... | 18:02 |
| nlsthzn | but I am eyeing Canada... | 18:02 |
| Kilos | cant be good places unless youre an eskimo | 18:03 |
| nlsthzn | going to be a PITA to get in but worth it if I am able too | 18:03 |
| Kilos | you applying for a job there? | 18:03 |
| nlsthzn | oh I am going to be applying for every job there :p | 18:03 |
| Kilos | arent they full of nonsense for foreigners to come work there | 18:04 |
| nlsthzn | it seems that many of the hurdles I faced that discouraged me from trying can be mitigated if you get a job offer... | 18:04 |
| Kilos | aha | 18:04 |
| nlsthzn | they have strict rules but all you need is an offer and it all becomes much easier | 18:04 |
| nlsthzn | so sure, you need the offer first >.< | 18:05 |
| Kilos | good luck then | 18:05 |
| Kilos | how you gonna get off the dates and camel milk diet | 18:05 |
| Kilos | cold turkey | 18:05 |
| nlsthzn | lol | 18:06 |
| nlsthzn | I think I will survive... I switched my diet to all American junk food which is also available there | 18:06 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:07 |
| Kilos | look for a job in the tropics somewhere man | 18:07 |
| Kilos | always summer | 18:07 |
| nlsthzn | wish I could, would be nice :) | 18:11 |
| Kilos | you supposed to be studying nlsthzn | 18:16 |
| Kilos | whats happening | 18:16 |
| nlsthzn | I have two options to study that will be of use to me in my current career... and both are impractical, more likely than not going to end up costing a lot of money and effort for zero return... | 18:19 |
| nlsthzn | it is sad | 18:19 |
| nlsthzn | :( | 18:19 |
| nlsthzn | :'( | 18:19 |
| Kilos | eish | 18:20 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep lekker | 19:26 |
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