[05:05] o/ mornings [06:08] morning [06:21] morning [06:21] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKcxuGf_24Q - Not quite quadcopter, but some more clips :P [06:21] it's raw footage, so please excuse the other stuff :P [06:35] good morning [06:55] morning superfly and others [06:55] hi Kilos [07:17] morning Kilos [07:17] superfly [07:17] hi Squirm [07:17] hi Vince-0 Squirm ThatGraemeGuy [07:18] Hi [07:23] hello [08:40] good mornings [08:51] howdy all [09:08] hi inetpro magespawn [09:09] sorry i was afk [09:09] busy cooking and all [09:26] hi psyatw [09:28] hi Kilos [09:31] hi Kilos, psyatw, magespawn [09:31] hi charl [09:32] hi inetpro, Vince-0, superfly, Squirm [09:32] Maaz: coffee on [09:32] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [09:32] how's it going Kilos [09:32] good ty charl and there? [09:32] good thanks [09:33] hi charl [09:33] oh whow this is shocking [09:33] http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/657386-selfies-at-funerals [09:34] "From left: British PM David Cameron, Danish PM Helle Thorning Schmidt and U.S. President Barack Obama pose for a group selfie during today?s memorial service for Nelson Mandela in South Africa." [09:34] what are these idiots thinking [09:35] nothing better than doing stuff for self-serving purposes, right? [09:36] Coffee's ready for charl! [09:38] Maaz: thanks [09:38] charl: Okay :-) [09:38] whow but that is just shocking, what were they thinking [09:38] acting like a bunch of monkeys at a funeral [09:50] Hey Kilos charl [09:51] can anyone recommend some good, reliable free/low cost VPS services? [10:02] where magespawn ? [10:02] local or anywhere [10:04] do you want to make a site or what [10:04] local if possible but it is not serious [10:04] i want to set up a ubuntu server with quassel and opencloud [10:05] ah [10:10] so i was looking for some recommendations cause quite often the experience can be very different [10:34] magespawn, look at this one and tell me what one can do there [10:34] http://www.weebly.com/weebly/userHome.php?page=domains [10:34] i started making site but dunno what to do [10:35] so dont know if it just hosts a site for you or what [10:39] now i get a mail every week saying my site aint published yet and mails about how to make it do more [10:39] hehe [11:13] magespawn: hetzner germany [11:13] magespawn: charl.eu runs on a vps that costs 7,90 euro per month [11:14] magespawn: been running it for almost two years and have had very few issues thus far [11:14] magespawn: also supports ipv6 and the latest ubuntu (13.10) if you want [11:14] magespawn: also the ability to set reverse dns [11:31] I bought a vps on cloudatcost.com [11:31] was $4 per month bought in 2 years - 4 vCPU, Debian 7 [11:32] but that special is over now [12:00] magespawn: try http://www.digitalocean.com [12:18] whow these people are ridiculously cheap [12:18] how can they even make ends meet [12:19] $1 per month?! [12:42] Thanks for the suggestions guys [13:03] np :) [13:46] Vince-0, they still have some nice specials [13:46] Kilos was that site for your book? [13:47] yes magespawn [13:48] this is a good learning curve then [13:52] hehe [13:54] magespawn, latency to Canada is a bit kak from the ass end of the world though [13:55] 285ms today is as good as it gets [13:56] ah well we have to take the good with the bad [14:07] there's some local guys who run isoho.st [14:07] that's local [14:08] they use spice [14:08] I forget the guy's name [14:18] been configuring prosody like mad the last day but got it working nicely now https://xmpp.net/result.php?domain=charl.eu&type=client [14:18] i'm scoring better than the vast majority of other xmpp servers [14:18] upgraded my ssl key from 2048 to 4096 bits [14:19] and had to disable sslv3 and some bad cipher [14:25] heh, i see swissjabber also moved over to prosody now https://xmpp.net/result.php?domain=swissjabber.ch&type=client [14:25] they left all the ssl settings to the defaults though [14:26] so they are slightly less secure than my current setup [15:37] later all [15:38] charl, are you working on that chat goodie? [15:39] is that what you talking about [15:42] inetpro, miskien moet jy ry [15:42] dit kom van die suide lyk my [15:47] ty Kilos [15:48] yw sir [15:56] Kilos: no this is standard xmpp [15:56] Kilos: i got shot down on the idea so badly on #guardianproject that i kind-of got demotivated [15:57] who are they? [15:57] they have been working on end-to-end encryption (openpgp, otr etc) and voip on mobile phones [15:58] ah [15:58] they basically just told me to not start anything new and join an existing project [15:58] otr is pretty good [15:58] and dcc chat [15:58] so i said that's great that's what i would also rather do if possible but there aren't any existing projects with enough overlap [15:58] then they told me to go and work on some xmpp client [15:58] lol [15:58] and i was like eh that's not the idea [15:59] but quite honestly i don't think they even attempted to understand what i was on about [15:59] if you have it worked out in your head what you wanna do then go for it man [15:59] yeah but i need time and i didn't want to create yet another one man project [15:59] why not? [16:00] because one man projects have a really bad record when it comes to being maintained over the long run [16:00] and besides, the idea is not to fragment what's going on, the idea is to work on solid, practical and sustainable standards [16:00] if its good when done then you dont need to share the praise [16:00] lol it's not about credit :) [16:01] although, having been through a bunch of job interviews recently, having some credit can be useful [16:01] why not? [16:01] i dunno... because i don't give a sh*t? :) i guess my ego doesn't need feeding? [16:02] sigh [16:02] its got nothing to do with ego man [16:02] Kilos all i want is a good product, i don't care if my name is on it or not [16:02] a job well done gives you self satisfaction [16:02] yes, SELF satisfaction :) [16:03] it's not about credit [16:03] so do it for yourself then man [16:03] grrr [16:03] ok i get your point :) [16:03] who knows, you might start a revolution [16:03] maybe i let my sense of purpose run away with me sometimes [16:03] yeah it starts with yourself right [16:04] of course [16:05] ok lemme not shelve it yet [16:05] do it for yourself and keep notes so if you get outa your depth then you have the process to show when you ask for help somewhere [16:05] besides, it's almost the middle of winter right now and i get some time on my hands [16:09] youll waste the time riding around [16:09] visiting old buildings and things [17:04] sigh [17:05] coupla boom booms ten drops rain and no power [17:10] it poured here [17:10] as it has done for the past 3 weeks [17:10] every [17:10] single [17:10] day [17:10] I haven't seen a day of sun in 3 weeks [17:10] maybe 3 hours at max and not every day [17:11] we had good rain resterday. maybe more to come tonight [17:52] hello all o/ [17:55] hiya nlsthzn [17:56] how are you uncle Kilos? [17:56] enjoying summer I hope [17:56] very well ty nlsthzn and you lad? [17:56] kyk noord en voeter voort [17:56] :p [17:56] was cooler yesterday and today but not bad [17:56] hehe [17:57] raining on and off now. waiting for power to go again [17:57] well it getting nippy here [17:57] what do you class as nippy? [17:57] 25 [17:58] lows reached 16... brrr..... [17:58] 22 currently [17:59] haha [17:59] everyone walking around with jackets :p [17:59] they'd suffer here in winter [18:01] yup [18:01] * nlsthzn is eyeing the prospects of moving to someplace even colder... but it is a long shot... [18:02] then something like -30 isn't uncommon [18:02] brrrrr..... [18:02] oh my goodness [18:02] youll freeze your nuts off [18:02] where does it get so cold [18:02] oh many places... [18:02] but I am eyeing Canada... [18:03] cant be good places unless youre an eskimo [18:03] going to be a PITA to get in but worth it if I am able too [18:03] you applying for a job there? [18:03] oh I am going to be applying for every job there :p [18:04] arent they full of nonsense for foreigners to come work there [18:04] it seems that many of the hurdles I faced that discouraged me from trying can be mitigated if you get a job offer... [18:04] aha [18:04] they have strict rules but all you need is an offer and it all becomes much easier [18:05] so sure, you need the offer first >.< [18:05] good luck then [18:05] how you gonna get off the dates and camel milk diet [18:05] cold turkey [18:06] lol [18:06] I think I will survive... I switched my diet to all American junk food which is also available there [18:07] lol [18:07] look for a job in the tropics somewhere man [18:07] always summer [18:11] wish I could, would be nice :) [18:16] you supposed to be studying nlsthzn [18:16] whats happening [18:19] I have two options to study that will be of use to me in my current career... and both are impractical, more likely than not going to end up costing a lot of money and effort for zero return... [18:19] it is sad [18:19] :( [18:19] :'( [18:20] eish [19:26] night all. sleep lekker