[00:00] <mistawright> akurilin: resolv.conf is being managed as it says it was automatically generated
[00:00] <beandog> rokon1: check forums if you're not finding anyone here who can helpe
[00:00] <beandog> *help
[00:00] <rokon1> forums didnt have an answer for me :/
[00:01] <beandog> :(
[00:01] <rokon1> spent over 4 hrs lookin for a working answer and none came up... :[
[00:01] <beandog> fire up a windows rescue disk and reinstall the boot loader
[00:03] <rokon1> thats the other problem lol... dont have a disk...bought the pc for $45 from a friend :/ its not that the boot loader doesnt work, it boots to GRUB and i select Ubuntu and the screen goes purple as it usually does but the text doesnt come up, so i think it boots ubuntu but doesnt boot ubuntu.
[00:03] <rokon1> dunno how to say it :P Boots the screen without text
[00:03] <beandog> oh
[00:03] <beandog> well that's an entirely different problem then
[00:03] <rokon1> yeah. sorry for the mis-explanation
[00:04] <beandog> rokon1: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB_Error_Reference relevant, maybe?
[00:04] <beandog> rokon1: see if you can boot into single user mode
[00:04] <beandog> and then ... uh ... do something else to fix it.
[00:04] <doctorZeus> rokon1 what kind of video card
[00:04] <beandog> that was gonna be my next question
[00:04] <rokon1> how do i do that? it doesnt give me an option :/ Intel
[00:04] <rokon1> One sec lemme get my laptop
[00:05] <beandog> Hmm
[00:06] <doctorZeus> I've had that purple screen before, seems it was on an 11.x version a while back.  I think I had updated video drivers since the last reboot as the likely cause.
[00:06] <BeBopBishop> kali linux?
[00:06] <BeBopBishop> debian :p
[00:07] <doctorZeus> Can't remember what I did to fix it, it was something relatively easy though.  I think I rm xorg.conf from recovery console
[00:08] <jp-> anyway to get the menu always visible in 13.10? most of what i'm seeing on google is for older versions.
[00:08] <VLanX> so ubuntu should be quite invurnerable to viruses right? But still, any chance that you could still get firefox infected in any way?
[00:08] <rokon1> INtel HD Grapchis
[00:08] <rokon1> Thats what DXDiag says for my display.
[00:09] <rokon1> I dunno vlan, but if your talking to me, I havent downloaded anything with it
[00:09] <rokon1> Ive only used apt-get and i just installed apache :P
[00:09] <VLanX> rokon1: no sorry, was just a question of mine
[00:10] <rokon1> ok lol
[00:10] <beandog> VLanX: eh, in theory, yah
[00:10] <wafflejock> VLanX: no OS is invulnerable
[00:10] <doctorZeus> VLanX absolutely it can.. it's inherently going to be more secure but far far far away from "invulnerable."
[00:10] <beandog> well ... not theory
[00:10] <akurilin> mistawright: ok good so there's something taking care of it then. Ask in here again see if someone knows better
[00:10] <rokon1> but yes, ubuntun is fairly virus free because its not as popular as say mac or windows, but im sure there are SOME viruses for ubuntu
[00:10] <doctorZeus> Linux best ally in being virus free is the low market share
[00:10] <wafflejock> well and hopefully more educated users
[00:11] <wafflejock> with Linux you have a repository for getting your software
[00:11] <VLanX> wafflejock, doctorZeus: so is there anything that i can scan 4 viruses, for ubuntu or firefox?
[00:11] <wafflejock> if that comes from a trusted source then your pretty much good to go
[00:11] <doctorZeus> there are tools
[00:11] <kbrosnan> clamav
[00:11] <rokon1> I reaaaaly dont want to install ubuntu again... :[
[00:11] <wafflejock> clamav mostly finds windows viruses though
[00:11] <wafflejock> honestly there's not a lot of viruses targetting linux as others say but that doesn't mean there aren't malicious pieces of software for linux
[00:12] <VLanX> only low market share? srsly?
[00:12] <wafflejock> the thing is if you don't give them admin rights then you're pretty safe
[00:12] <akurilin> mistawright: ping me when you figure out what's configuring nics on ubuntu server, I'd love to know that myself
[00:12] <wafflejock> VLanX: you have to do sudo to run as root
[00:12] <doctorZeus> rokon1 boot into recovery mode from grub and try rm xorg.conf
[00:12] <wafflejock> if you don't do sudo then you're not in much risk since it can't access the main files
[00:12] <rokon1> eh
[00:12] <beandog> well
[00:12] <rokon1> about that
[00:12] <wafflejock> the other thing is canonical reviews the software and since it's open source issues are more likely to be found
[00:12] <rokon1> i guess being home gave it the magic touch?
[00:12] <beandog> that's not entirely true, but whatevs.  Chances of getting infected are really low to begin with.
[00:13] <rokon1> wouldnt boot at school, try at home and it works.
[00:13] <VLanX> wafflejock: i mean just common use, like surfing to shhitty sites, which could happen
[00:13] <wafflejock> if you find projects that are trusted and widely used then your probably safe but it's more about being security concious, not installing from places you don't trust and the like
[00:13] <rokon1> just gonna not turn it off for awhile and try and find whats causin it and fixing it
[00:13] <rokon1> ^
[00:13] <wafflejock> VLanX: your not likely to get stuff just surfing
[00:13] <wafflejock> VLanX: but the internet itself can be hacked
[00:13] <rokon1> basically if you use apt-get from the standard ubuntu repository, your 90% safe
[00:14] <doctorZeus> It's a bit paradoxical as I'm not joking but Linux is more secure because it's Linux
[00:14] <VLanX> wafflejock: ok but still, anything to protect again malware? something to scan the system with?
[00:14] <wafflejock> VLanX: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5l9lSnNMxg
[00:14] <beandog> VLanX: yah, chkrootkit, rkhunter
[00:14] <rokon1> there are far far far less viruses etc for linux than windows, but it is still an operating system that uses internet.
[00:14] <wafflejock> beandog: +1
[00:14] <rokon1> and usb etc, that can install viruses as well
[00:14] <rokon1> if your usb gets infeted with something then thats possible too.
[00:15] <VLanX> beandog: ok, i'll read bout those
[00:15] <wafflejock> VLanX: it's not as big of an issue if your more careful about what you click or allow to load and stuff
[00:15] <VLanX> wafflejock, no, just surfing 4 porn :D
[00:15] <doctorZeus> If *nix had somehow someway garnered the interest and growth and market share that windows had I think we would see a LOT more virus.  Maybe not as bad as windows because of the fundamental differences?  But plenty more than today
[00:15] <rokon1> right. basically, just...be smart and use common sense
[00:15] <beandog> what rokon1 said.
[00:16] <rokon1> OK so my problem was magically solved, hope the rest of you guys as well! Im off for awhile, later
[00:16] <wafflejock> VLanX: yeah just saying some people install 40 PPAs to get new software from all over and if you don't trust the source or check the source code yourself you never know what your allowing to happen with sudo
[00:16] <vinni_f> Hi, anyone can tell me how to upgrade ubuntu with the live cd on an encrypted fs. the istall gui does not propose the upgrade....
[00:17] <wafflejock> it's not good to have the attitude that the machine is somehow invincible because it's OS X or Linux or something
[00:17] <VLanX> right
[00:18] <wafflejock> lots of exploits are based more on the user and social things than technical issues and in the age of internet based everything people getting data that way is really a major issue regardless of what system you use
[00:18] <beandog> the real threat today is privacy, anyway
[00:19] <beandog> computing power is cheap.
[00:19] <wafflejock> Windows just tends to have 1,000,000 exploits at any given time so it seems much worse, and people are used to constantly allowing admin rights or running as admin
[00:19] <VLanX> well i should definitely get rid of javascript btw
[00:19] <beandog> VLanX: check out noscript ff plugin
[00:19] <dr_acke> has microsoft come auot a system with out a bug
[00:20] <Mongo44> Is there an alternative to java?
[00:20] <wafflejock> VLanX: it all depends on what your doing, in many cases disabling javascript really paralyzes the internet, GMail and the like depend on it, if your paranoid enough you can switch though
[00:20] <beandog> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/noscript/
[00:20] <wafflejock> java is not javascript
[00:20] <kbrosnan> Mongo44: icetea
[00:20] <wafflejock> and yes there are many alternatives
[00:20] <VLanX> beandog: yeah, just got thst one
[00:20] <VLanX> s/thst/that
[00:20] <beandog> VLanX: I really like that one.
[00:20] <apb1963> Every time i reboot, the Network Configuration takes forever, until it finally times out and moves on and finishes booting.  Any ideas on what's wrong here?
[00:20] <beandog> VLanX: I think with that, and adblock, you'll pretty much be golden
[00:21] <VLanX> should be the case yeah :)
[00:21] <beandog> apb1963: sounds like some network device is doing a dhcp request
[00:21] <apb1963> beandog: good call.  dhcpclient is running, I haven't been able to uninstall it
[00:22] <beandog> apb1963: you kind of want it anyway .... so you can get an ip :)
[00:22] <beandog> apb1963: disable the network device that is doing lookups OR change the dhclient timeout to be lower.  It's probably at 60 seconds by default.
[00:23] <Wiz_KeeD> uhm...guys I need some help please :(
[00:23] <Wiz_KeeD> I FINALLY managed only with ubuntu 13.10 to install in uefi mode and grub shows up nice BUT if i boot normally it goes into a blank screen and if i go into safe mode I have the options to resume clean dpkg failsafeX fsck grub network root and system-summary
[00:23] <Wiz_KeeD> halp :(
[00:23] <apb1963> beandog: both good ideas.  It may be the wireless modem that's doing the dhcp call... I'm wired, but I turned the wireless on one day just to see what was in my neighborhood... never turned it back off.
[00:24] <beandog> apb1963: that sounds like the culprit
[00:24] <beandog> apb1963: you can configure networkmanager to disable them individually
[00:24] <apb1963> beandog: I guess I don't understand why it would be doing dhcp calls?
[00:24] <beandog> apb1963: If I had to *guess*, I'd say it's doing that one first.
[00:24] <apb1963> beandog: I mean, the modem already has an IP from the cable modem doohicky
[00:25] <apb1963> ohhhh
[00:25] <apb1963> never thought of that
[00:25] <beandog> and when that times out, it rolls over to the next one.
[00:25] <apb1963> how can I change the order?  /etc/network/interfaces?
[00:25] <zippo^> hello, which url can i learn how can I install Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro?
[00:25] <beandog> apb1963: just the NM interface in your desktop
[00:25] <apb1963> see that's the thing... Network Manager doesn't see any connections
[00:26] <beandog> orly.
[00:26] <beandog> apb1963: but it sees devices, right?
[00:26] <apb1963> orly?
[00:26] <beandog> o really
[00:26] <apb1963> hmmm.... I don't think it does... let me check
[00:26] <beandog> apb1963: which ubuntu are you on
[00:26] <apb1963> 12.04.3
[00:26] <beandog> Hmm okay
[00:27] <apb1963> and I'm not sure what I did with NM :/
[00:27] <beandog> Yah there'll be a setup thingie
[00:27] <bc--> hello dear friends
[00:27] <bc--> i need your help
[00:27] <bc--> please
[00:27] <apb1963> It used to show up on my tray... now it doesn't... and it's not in the search thing
[00:27] <beandog> apb1963: Mine's in my topnav, but I'm on xfce.
[00:27] <apb1963> I'm using kde
[00:27] <beandog> apb1963: I'm *sure* you can run the binary and it'll pull up, but I don't know the name.  It might be easier to just edit it in /etc, honestly.
[00:28] <apb1963> I like editing
[00:28] <apb1963> what do I edit?
[00:28] <beandog> heh
[00:28] <beandog> *that* I don't know ... I generally avoid NM
[00:28] <beandog> well, outside of Ubuntu that is.  too complex.
[00:28] <bc--> i am trting to install a patch on my ubuntu 10.04.4 on vmware machine, but if i execute the patch i receive this message from terminal "./sfk: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ". I tried everything to install "libstdc++.so.5" but is impossible,
[00:28] <bc--> *trying
[00:28] <apb1963> i've never used nm
[00:29] <beandog> apb1963: it just works in ubuntu, so I'm happy
[00:29] <beandog> apb1963: ANYWAY .... find out what binary pulls up the config thingie, and go from there.
[00:30] <beandog> or edit /etc.  Either way ... might  have to lookup NM docs
[00:30] <apb1963> beandog:  are we talking about /etc/network/interfaces?
[00:30] <beandog> apb1963: oh yah, pastebin it for me
[00:30] <apb1963> because I can just comment it out of there... though it's in second position so I'm not sure why it would go first?
[00:30] <apb1963> ok
[00:30] <apb1963> a moment
[00:30] <bc--> any support for me?
[00:31] <apb1963> beandog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6553993/
[00:32] <beandog> apb1963: hmm
[00:32] <beandog> apb1963: isn't auto etho running a dhcp request?
[00:33] <beandog> You'd have to change that ... sec
[00:33] <beandog> oh wait, nm, that's okay
[00:33] <wafflejock> bc--: why 10.04 it's fairly old
[00:33] <apb1963> beandog:  I think that just configures my LAN right?
[00:33] <beandog> wafflejock: If I had to guess, it's a production server
[00:34] <beandog> apb1963: well ... I'd read man interfaces.  Should be your answer in there.
[00:34] <wafflejock> beandog: yeah but should still be brought up to date
[00:34] <bc--> wafflejock : yes but i can use only this one
[00:34] <beandog> wafflejock: yah, that doesn't happen a lot in production. :)
[00:34] <beandog> where uptime is far more important than anything else
[00:35] <wafflejock> guess is otherwise the only option is to find the source for lib std C++ 5 and get it compiled or find a build for 10.04
[00:35] <beandog> anyway.
[00:35] <wafflejock> beandog: yeah but need to have two systems to swap stuff so you can update without risking production
[00:35] <wafflejock> I know the real world isn't so forgiving though
[00:35] <evanm1> hi all. I am new to irc.  I am having a problem installing ubuntu 12.04 on a Dell n7110
[00:35] <apb1963> beandog: well the simple solution is just to comment out wlan0... the thing is I don't know if that's the RIGHT solution.
[00:36] <apb1963> I guess this is where we experiment... I prefer to have a definitive answer generally
[00:36] <beandog> apb1963: seems like the obvious answer to me ... :T *shrug*
[00:36] <apb1963> beandog: funny thing is... I'm dropping those packets in iptables
[00:37] <evanm1> I keep going into low-graphics mode
[00:37] <beandog> apb1963: heh
[00:37] <apb1963> beandog: I drop them because dhcpclient isn't supposed to keep asking for an IP as far as I know....
[00:37] <beandog> that is funny :)
[00:37] <apb1963> beandog: Yet it sends out unending requests.... to me, that's broken.
[00:37] <beandog> well, that's not gonna keep it from trying
[00:37] <apb1963> beandog: that's why I firewalled it
[00:38] <beandog> No, I mean, it'll stil wait for 60 seconds.
[00:38] <apb1963> beandog:  It's a monster.  I can't turn it off.  lol
[00:38] <apb1963> yeah
[00:38] <apb1963> which is why I'm here
[00:38] <beandog> the answer has to be in the interfaces man page
[00:39] <apb1963> No manual entry for dhcpclient
[00:39] <apb1963> which is why I haven't ever changed the default timeout
[00:39] <beandog> apb1963: man dhclient
[00:39] <apb1963> d'oh!
[00:39] <beandog> apb1963: man interfaces
[00:39] <apb1963> been doing that for months
[00:39] <apb1963> kk
[00:40] <apb1963> yeah, I've looked at interfaces before...  I'm not sure what my goal is with that?
[00:40] <beandog> apb1963: the goal is to see what "auto eth0" should be replaced with
[00:40] <beandog> er, not eth0 .. freek.
[00:40] <apb1963> ??
[00:40] <apb1963> wlan0 you mean? the wireless device?
[00:40] <beandog> yes
[00:41] <apb1963> well...  I get an IP from the wire... so...  again... not sure what my goal is here
[00:42] <apb1963> I guess just use something other than auto
[00:42] <beandog> anyway
[00:42] <beandog> it's in there somewhere.
[00:42] <beandog> right.
[00:43] <beandog> apb1963: maybe it's something else that is doing the delay on boot.
[00:43] <beandog> fsck is the next thing that comes to mind ... but that wouldnt run every time
[00:43] <evanm1> Can anyone help on an install with a Dell n7110 with optimus Nvidia graphics card? It boots but only low graphics mode
[00:43] <apb1963> Yeah no it explicitly says Network Configuration
[00:44] <apb1963> 60 seconds
[00:44] <beandog> yah
[00:44] <beandog> that's dhcp
[00:44] <apb1963> it has to be what you said.. the wireless calling it
[00:44] <mukti_> I have a crontab entry that keeps sending me blank emails. Is there any way to only send emails when there is output from the script: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7903178/raw/8818878d6d891c2808d6b346580317123e8086d7/gistfile1.txt
[00:44] <mukti_> I know about MAILTO; but I don't know how to specify a subject without using the 'mail' comand
[00:44] <daftykins> evanm1: 13.10? have you checked the BIOS for any GPU options?
[00:45] <evanm1> No will do now.  Thanks you
[00:45] <beandog> mukti_: I'd put it in a simple shell script
[00:46] <mukti_> beandog: you mean a shell script that calls the python script?
[00:46] <beandog> right
[00:46] <apb1963> beandog: I guess I don't really understand why the wireless doesn't get an IP from my ISP?  Is it because there is no actual wireless server from the ISP?  I'm pretty weak on wireless.. I ignored the whole wireless revolution until recently.  lol
[00:46] <beandog> mukti_: message=`/root/site/reg_check.py`; if [ ! -z $message ]; then echo $message | mail -s "Registration Check" myemail@gmail.com; fi
[00:47] <beandog> apb1963: I dunno.  But if you want a really stupid hack solution ... just give it a static ip
[00:47] <evanm1> daftykins: Phoenix SecureCore Tiano Setup has no GPU options
[00:48] <apb1963> beandog:  I don't think that will work.  The wireless device is my router.  My router - wired - gets the IP from the ISP's modem.
[00:48] <daftykins> evanm1: mmm pretty typical. have you booted with 'nomodeset' ?
[00:49] <beandog> apb1963: okay, well, basically where you're at right now is you have a good idea of what it *might* be ... so that's a good place to start looking at how to configure it differently.  IOW, I'm not gonna read the man page for you. :)
[00:49] <evanm1> daftykins: yes. I checked the xorg log and it says screens found but no usable configuration
[00:49] <dtcrshr> hello! on recovery mode I can go to failsafe and start a normal session, im under 12.04 lts. Nvidia driver is installed ok via jockey, but if i choose normal boot on grub, it goes to " low graphcs mode yada yada" and i cant get to the system
[00:49] <dtcrshr> how do I remove this failsafe warning, and use the system normally?
[00:49] <daftykins> evanm1: and have you looked into bumblebee?
[00:49] <apb1963> beandog: I've already skimmed the man page... nothing leaped out at me because I'm not really sure what I want
[00:49] <beandog> apb1963: you want to disable dhcp lookups
[00:50] <apb1963> I do?
[00:50] <apb1963> ok
[00:50]  * dtcrshr sees that the latest log is also about gpu issues
[00:50] <apb1963> :)
[00:50] <apb1963> thank you :)
[00:50] <md_5> Im having trouble getting the proprietry nvidia drivers to work on my gtx 770, desktop
[00:50] <apb1963> i'll let you know what I find
[00:50] <md_5> Tried using xorg-edgers, eventually got it running, rebooted, and suddenly only get a tty
[00:50] <md_5> I have no idea what else to try
[00:51] <md_5> seems the drivers also cause hangs in the kernel
[00:51] <evanm1> daftykins: I followed the basic setup on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee but it did not resolve my issue
[00:51] <leptone> i have a dual booting MBP running 12.04 and OSX mavericks. does anyone know if an article for updating my ubuntu partition to 13.10 that is suited for me? thx
[00:52] <dtcrshr> what mostly drives me crazy is that mint on the same pc works like a charm
[00:52] <beandog> apb1963: okay well I'm outta anyway, so good luck, but two things I'd do: google how to disable a device in NM, and secondly, find the NM logs and see what it's doing for sure.
[00:52] <dtcrshr> im pretty sure unity will screw up completly my games
[00:53] <apb1963> beandog:  /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[00:53] <daftykins> evanm1: this is 13.10 yes? i'm out of ideas i'm afraid
[00:53] <evanm1> daftykins: I also tried deleting xorg.conf to rely on autodetection but that did not work either
[00:53] <evanm1> daftykins: no it is 12.04
[00:53] <beandog> apb1963: that's gonna be for the daemon
[00:54] <apb1963> beandog: however since NM doesn't see anything (or didn't when I was able to actually find it) I'm not sure I want to disable it?
[00:54] <wafflejock> apb1963: just dropped in where are you at in your diagnoses
[00:54] <daftykins> evanm1: ah 12.04.3? are you using a raring kernel with it and the raring X?
[00:54] <beandog> apb1963: open /etc/network/interfaces, it says right there to read the interfaces man page.  The answer is in there somewhere.  Don't skim. ;)
[00:54] <apb1963> wafflejock: Not sure.  lol
[00:54] <wafflejock> apb1963: so you've got a wireless adapter and your trying to connect to the internet at home?
[00:55] <apb1963> wafflejock: Not exactly
[00:55] <beandog> wafflejock: his NetworkManager is taking 60 seconds to start on boot.  I'm guessing it's one of his devices that is timing out a DHCP requst.  He has the wired doing static IP, the wireless is set to auto.
[00:55] <evanm1> daftykins: Can you give me the commands to check? Thanks
[00:55] <apb1963> beandog: thank you :)
[00:55] <mukti_> beandog: Although it is a little more complex then I originally wanted, it worked, thanks
[00:55] <beandog> good luck apb1963, wafflejock .  I'm outtas.
[00:55] <evanm1> daftykins: uname -r and ??
[00:55] <wafflejock> beandog: later have a good one
[00:55] <beandog> mukti_: :)
[00:55] <daftykins> evanm1: not sure on checking X but you can compare "uname -a" to what raring's backported kernel was
[00:55] <beandog> gratz
[00:55] <apb1963> beandog: Have a great day/night!
[00:56] <dtcrshr> If i remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe what happens?
[00:56] <daftykins> dtcrshr: forgive my simple query but.. why would you not just stick with Mint if it's working? :)
[00:56] <daftykins> dtcrshr: that's just an alternate one, it doesn't get touched
[00:56] <p3rs3us> apb1963, Even if your network manager is taking 60 secs, what is the real problem you are facing? Is the booting slow?
[00:57] <apb1963> wafflejock: Actually... I don't think the wired is doing static IP... not sure that's accurate, though I suppose it depends on your point of view.  The router gets a dynamic IP from the my ISP's cable modem.
[00:57] <dtcrshr> daftykins: thats a tricky question. besides it just works fine for me im installing ubunto on a friends newly bought dell notebook. I was thinking for the regular / low knowledge user ubuntu would be the best suggestion for him
[00:57] <apb1963> p3rs3us: Yes.  Booting stops to wait for the Network Configuration which eventually times out and fails.
[00:58] <wafflejock> apb1963: what version exactly of ubuntu
[00:58] <dtcrshr> but seems wrong this full suport from ubuntu, mostly because it wont work out of the box...
[00:58] <daftykins> dtcrshr: they're both debian derivatives so i don't really see the difference - so you've put 13.10 on this Dell and it's not going so well?
[00:58] <wafflejock> apb1963: if you don't know do lsb_release -a on the comand line
[00:58] <apb1963> p3rs3us: Then it moves on with the rest of the boot process...  and when it's all done, the network is working just fine.  But I want to get rid of that huge pause.
[00:58] <apb1963> wafflejock: 12.04.3
[00:58] <dtcrshr> daftykins: well, I never had good experiences with ubuntu that are not LTS, I installed 12.04
[00:58] <wafflejock> apb1963: straight Ubuntu?
[00:59] <dtcrshr> live boot works fine, only the system itself wont work
[00:59] <apb1963> wafflejock: well it's not gay if that's what you're asking
[00:59] <daftykins> dtcrshr: is it nvidia only this laptop, or optimus?
[00:59] <wafflejock> haha
[00:59] <dtcrshr> and im worried if some automatic uptates will fully break ubuntu again in some near future
[00:59] <wafflejock> meant not xubuntu
[00:59] <dtcrshr> optimus
[00:59] <wafflejock> or kubuntu
[00:59] <evanm1> daftykins: 3.8.0-29-generic #42~precise1 and how do I get the raring backport?
[00:59] <dtcrshr> gt 740m
[00:59] <apb1963> kde installed
[00:59] <wafflejock> or edubuntu or something like that http://askubuntu.com/questions/213614/waiting-for-network-configuration-problem
[00:59] <apb1963> plasma
[01:00] <daftykins> evanm1: there's an ubuntu support page on it somewhere, it's pretty obvious if you google "ubuntu 12.04 raring"
[01:00] <wafflejock> apb1963: okay cool I use Kubuntu here, went from Ubuntu+KDE to straight Kubuntu 13.10, just want to be sure we're on the same page
[01:00] <wafflejock> apb1963: are you seeing the message from that link?
[01:00] <evanm1> daftykins: thanks, will do
[01:00] <p3rs3us> Even if you are not connected to any network, i mean you don't have any wires connected and your wireless isn't working? Then too?
[01:00] <daftykins> dtcrshr: ah - welcome to a world of hurt. sounds like you're in the same situation as evanm1
[01:01] <daftykins> dtcrshr: thought #1 - if Live worked but the install didn't, i'd be willing to bet you installed with updates turned on, to download updates during setup?
[01:01] <dtcrshr> i did that
[01:01] <apb1963> wafflejock: correct
[01:01] <dtcrshr> daftykins: well, on my personal notebook its a gt555m bumblebee works like a charm, i get 39fps on dota 2
[01:01] <dtcrshr> but im using mint LMDE
[01:01] <wafflejock> apb1963: okay so give a pastebin of your current /etc/network/interfaces so we can see what's going on
[01:02] <mukti_> beandog: I'm having another issue now... Although the python script outputs new lines when I run it in my shell, the emails do not have any new lines. Do I need to format them a special way so that the mail command enters new lines?
[01:02] <daftykins> dtcrshr: are you near it now to compare kernel + X version with what's on the ubuntu install?
[01:02] <wafflejock> mukti_: (s)he took off
[01:02] <apb1963> wafflejock: beandog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6553993/
[01:03] <dtcrshr> daftykins: yes, but my ride just came... ill have to go
[01:03] <daftykins> enjoy
[01:03] <dtcrshr> glxpheres says XORG no device detected now.... ill give mint a try then
[01:03] <dtcrshr> thans anyway
[01:03] <p3rs3us> apb1963, Try this command  cat /var/log/syslog |grep NetworkManager and paste the output somewhere.
[01:04] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: did you ever figure out your issue?
[01:04] <leptone> so im trying to upgrade from 12.04  to 13.04 so i can then go to 13.1. i ran the update-manager -d command which brought me to the update manager. where it says at the top ":New Ubuntu Release '14.04' is avaliable" the an upgrade button. should i just go to 14.04? is it stable?
[01:04] <Wiz_KeeD> technickul, this is the first time it worked technickul, but only worked with ubuntu 13.10
[01:05] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: what had you been trying earlier?
[01:05] <Wiz_KeeD> That's not good enough for me I need to understand what happened, how to do it again and use 12.04 if 13.10 doesn't cut it
[01:05] <Wiz_KeeD> earlier when technickul ?
[01:05] <apb1963> p3rs3us: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6554093/
[01:05] <mukti_> Does anyone know if there is a special way to enter newlines with the mail command?
[01:05] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: idk you've had this problem since saturday I think so I"m wondering which version you were using befreo
[01:06] <evanm1> daftykins: I found this fight http://askubuntu.com/questions/336527/how-to-upgrade-to-the-next-hardware-enablement-stack/336573#336573 on how to upgrade to 3.8.0 but I don't understand the backports and what I should compare.  Can you give me a google search term?
[01:06] <Wiz_KeeD> I was using 12.04 which doesn't seem to handle grub installation and patching as well as 13.10 does
[01:06] <wafflejock> apb1963: yeah believe you need to be looking at /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf now actually instead of /etc/network/interfaces
[01:06] <Wiz_KeeD> I managed to get even 12.04 working in the end but it made some ugly freezes
[01:06] <Wiz_KeeD> Dunno why that happened but it did
[01:06] <wafflejock> will see if I notice anything in the logs too though
[01:07] <Wiz_KeeD> technickul, I ended up partitioning my drive from gparted manually
[01:07] <Wiz_KeeD> How far are you with your issue though
[01:07] <Wiz_KeeD> ?
[01:07] <apb1963> wafflejock: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6554095/
[01:07] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: my guess is since 13.10 is most current which is why it might have worked. I'm good to go mine has been since Sunday
[01:08] <Wiz_KeeD> yeah maybe that's why it worked but there are a lot of unanswered questions :(
[01:08] <Wiz_KeeD> How did you solve your issue in the end technickul ?
[01:08] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: I just had to manual add grub entries that pointed to efi partition to the windows install and boom good to go
[01:09] <Wiz_KeeD> So your only issue was that grub was not showing the efi partition of windows to launch it?
[01:09] <J-Escobar> Question on an Ubuntu install that won't boot. Boots into busybox. I loaded an Ubuntu live cd and tried mounting my install at /dev/sda1 and it just hangs. Tried running an e2fsck from the live cd on /dev/sda1 and it says it is busy and will not run. Any help would be appreciated!
[01:10] <daftykins> evanm1: well, it's just a guess of mine really - not sure what you need beyond the commands and packages mentioned on there
[01:10] <wafflejock> apb1963: believe you need to set that to true on managed for /etc/network/interfaces to take effect which basically disabled NetworkManager from what I understand http://www.sitepoint.com/ubuntu-12-04-lts-precise-pangolin-networking-tips-and-tricks/
[01:10] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: That was the final problem. I had a issues installing at first because I was trying to install in non uefi mode. Now I have fan/battery issues sometimes when I boot to unbuntu. It maxes out my fan and makes my battery charge led light flicker
[01:10] <wafflejock> when you do a ifconfig do you see the static IP you picked?
[01:11] <Wiz_KeeD> technickul, ouch that doesn't sound good
[01:11] <apb1963> wafflejock: Yes
[01:11] <Wiz_KeeD> idk about battery since I don't use it in my notebook tbh
[01:11] <Wiz_KeeD> but my fan keeps going at it as well
[01:11] <Wiz_KeeD> I mean not hard but...still
[01:11] <pers3us> apb1963, Did you get the message I sent? I thing i got dcd.
[01:11] <wafflejock> apb1963: yeah think I would take a backup of NetworkManager.conf as shown in that link and try to set it to true and give it a reset
[01:11] <evanm1> daftykins:  Thanks for your help.  I will let you know if I solve it. Ubuntu has been running on this laptop for 2 years. I know I screwed something up when it asked me if I wanted to add prop drivers.  It has not booted since. :-/
[01:12] <technickul> Wiz_KeeD: my was maxed out. I wouldn't be worried if this wasn't a super expensive ultrabook lol
[01:12] <wafflejock> pers3us: yeah log was pasted http://paste.ubuntu.com/6554093/
[01:12] <apb1963> p3rs3us: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6554093/
[01:12] <pers3us> oh. lemme have a look.
[01:12] <wafflejock> apb1963: aterisk box eh?
[01:13] <daftykins> evanm1: oh so it's got nvidia installed right now?
[01:13] <daftykins> evanm1: did you actually want to do that or were you happy as-is?
[01:13] <wafflejock> apb1963: I setup a a RasPBX here for doing some SIP stuff, lots of fun and cheapy calls
[01:14] <evanm1> daftykins: I would be happy to get unity working. I just want it working again.  I am not sure.
[01:14] <apb1963> wafflejock: Based on what beandog said, it seems as if my wireless device is asking for a dynamic IP... from my ISP I guess?  Since I'm wired and the wireless and wired devices are the same - i.e. the router  I don't know why the dhcp request wouldn't succeed.... what difference does it make which portion of the router is asking for the IP?  But, as can be seen from my firewall logs, it asks for an IP over and over (which is why I firewalled it)
[01:14] <pers3us> apb1963, Looks alright to me :-/ Which network devices you have.
[01:14] <wafflejock> apb1963: well your router will get the IP from the modem
[01:14] <apb1963> pers3us: all 3.  eth0 lo0 and wlan0
[01:15] <pers3us> apb1963, What is your wifi device? Is it a broadcom chipset?
[01:15] <daftykins> evanm1: surely unity worked with just the intel GPU in use - just remove the nvidia drivers you installed
[01:15] <wafflejock> apb1963: the modem will get the IP from the ISP
[01:15] <wafflejock> your router will give your device IPs
[01:15] <wafflejock> assuming here your router does the DHCP on the network which is the norm
[01:15] <evanm1> daftykins: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia* ??
[01:16] <wafflejock> the hanging is because your local interfaces aren't connecting for some reason it seems... or at least that's what it's telling us
[01:16] <daftykins> evanm1: yeah that'd do it
[01:16] <apb1963> wafflejock: I've turned off DHCP on the router and assigned a static IP to my device (currently, only one)
[01:16] <apb1963> pers3us: let me see if I can determine that.. lshw???
[01:16] <wafflejock> lscpci -k
[01:16] <wafflejock> or lsusb for usb stuff
[01:17] <wafflejock> lshw may get it but probably lots of other stuff too
[01:17] <evanm1> daftykins: executing the prior command now 5 to remove and 2 not upgraded
[01:17] <apb1963> wafflejock: I'm confused....  I'm looking for the router info. lspci would give me builtin devices (well, cards anyway) yes?
[01:17] <somsip> apb1963: if you can just get the router to not assign IPs for a certain block and use one of those as your static, you might get what you want.
[01:18] <pers3us> apb1963, wafflejock My guess is it has nothing to do with ip getting assigned, its more likely becuase chipset is not able to communicate.
[01:18] <pers3us> normally DHCP is really fast. It shouldn't take 60 secs.
[01:18] <daftykins> evanm1: as long as they're all nvidia driver related, the ones being removed, that should be good
[01:18] <evanm1> daftykins: sudo shutdown -h now and reboot??
[01:18] <apb1963> ok, for those of you that missed the beginning of this conversation... the problem is that I'm getting Network Configuration time out on bootup.
[01:19] <daftykins> evanm1: well i prefer -r 0 to reboot, but sure ;)
[01:19] <wafflejock> apb1963: yeah really was looking to supplement what pers3us was saying to get the hardware info to see what's loaded
[01:19] <evanm1> daftykins: doing it your way
[01:20] <pers3us> apb1963, I guess this the first time you are trying to install *nix on your machine. Right?
[01:20] <apb1963> oh... I wonder... I wasn't thinking... there is a wireless adapter installed...  maybe that's the culprit
[01:20] <wafflejock> I beleive if the router doesn't know if an IP address yet it will act as an auto sensing switch where the first time it gets a packet that has the source IP on it from your computer it will put that in it's lookup table x port has aaa.aaa.aaa.aaa IP address for any future communication, but it sounds like there is some hardware failure
[01:21] <apb1963> pers3us: Umm... no.
[01:21] <pers3us> apb1963, so it worked fine before?
[01:21] <apb1963> pers3us: Never
[01:21] <pers3us> ah
[01:21] <evanm1> daftykins: problem solved. The ubuntu community comes through again. Many thanks :-)
[01:21] <wafflejock> yeah you may be able to disable the wireless by setting the NetworkManager if managed=true so it uses /etc/network/interfaces then comment out the wlan0 lines
[01:22] <pers3us> ^ do that. Disable wireless and then try.
[01:22] <wafflejock> not sure if it's already using /etc/network/interfaces though since you say the static IP on ethernet is applied... seems a bit strange
[01:22] <wafflejock> also if a hardware switch is available for wireless that may help too
[01:22] <pers3us> It should use /etc/network/interfaces
[01:22] <wafflejock> just cut it off entirely
[01:22] <daftykins> evanm1: my pleasure ^_^ only sorry i didn't follow sooner
[01:23] <apb1963> wafflejock: pers3us Here... let me shed a bit more light... iwconfig: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6554152/
[01:24] <wafflejock> apb1963: yeah give it a shot with that disabled since it's not currently connecting to anything it may be causing the system to hang while it scans for networks or something
[01:25] <pers3us> wafflejock, IIRC I don't think connecting to wifi network is part of boot up, is it?
[01:26] <wafflejock> pers3us: well figure it's worth a shot anyhow won't hurt to try if it's not being used atm anyhow
[01:26] <pers3us> hmm. Let him try then.
[01:27] <apb1963> wafflejock: so you're thinking the router, is scanning for wireless networks on bootup?
[01:28] <wafflejock> apb1963: thinking the wifi card in your laptop may be... it's not really the norm though as pers3us says because it needs access to KWallet or whatever is storing your WPA key or whatever security for the network and stuff
[01:28] <wafflejock> apb1963: it does seem a bit unlikely but good to reduce the problem space
[01:28] <apb1963> wafflejock: desktop
[01:28] <wafflejock> okay either way
[01:28] <wafflejock> sucks though no hardware switch in that case
[01:28] <apb1963> kwallet request comes up after I login
[01:29] <wafflejock> easier to pop it out though I suppose
[01:29] <wafflejock> apb1963: right that's what pers3us was saying too normally wifi is handled after login etc.
[01:29] <apb1963> I think the request is by chrome
[01:29] <pers3us> apb1963, Yeah, the request will come when you login, cz that is when trigger for wpa comes up. So before that wireless should not request to connect.
[01:30] <Wiz_KeeD> It seems that my cooler is going down, temperatures are really well and no problems rendering, should I install bumble-bee to further optimize my power conumption and all?
[01:30] <wafflejock> apb1963: as others suggest here http://askubuntu.com/questions/213614/waiting-for-network-configuration-problem miscellaneous extra stuff in /etc/network/interfaces has caused this though
[01:30] <wafflejock> and you do have the lines for wlan0 dhcp
[01:30] <wafflejock> this is my full /etc/network/interfaces
[01:30] <wafflejock> auto lo
[01:30] <wafflejock> iface lo inet loopback
[01:30] <wafflejock> 13.10 Kubuntu though
[01:31] <wafflejock> wifi is connected after login
[01:31] <pers3us> Yours is Atheros Wifi Chipset?
[01:31] <apb1963> so then it sounds like the answer is to simply assign a static ip instead of a dhcp request
[01:31] <apb1963> pers3us: Yes
[01:32] <apb1963> and it sounds like its not the router... but the card.
[01:32] <wafflejock> apb1963: yeah much easier to verify if you have other devices you can test the router with but most likely it's just a configuration issue or driver problem in your OS than anything else from what I can tell
[01:33] <pers3us> apb1963, I doubt it, assigning static ip isnt a solution. But nevertheless give it a try.
[01:33] <apb1963> in fact... duh.... I turned off dhcp on the router... which is why nothing is responding to the card - although to be honest I can't remember if this problem was ocurring prior to my turning it off on the router - but I think it was.  Hmm.
[01:33] <pers3us> wafflejock, Yeah looks like OS/Driver problem.
[01:33] <AA2012> hi any one can help to install flash player on ubuntu on samsung Arm Chromebook
[01:34] <wafflejock> AA2012: not included in Chromium?
[01:34] <AA2012> no it is not
[01:34] <pers3us> apb1963, wafflejock if you guys will take a look at the syslog, wifi isn't trying to connect there. It only tries to connect if you have a wired network.
[01:35] <AA2012> #chrubuntu
[01:35] <apb1963> wireless only tries to connect if you have a wired network?  I'm lost on that one.
[01:35] <mimikins> anon
[01:35] <AA2012> hi any one can help to install flash player on ubuntu on samsung Arm Chromebook
[01:35] <Wiz_KeeD> lspci | grep VGA returns just the intel video card, does this mean it runs only on the intel card?
[01:36] <malt> whats a good web editor design like dreamweaver in ubuntu software
[01:36] <pers3us> apb1963, I meant wireless isn't trying to connect. it will try to connect if it is wired network. not wireless
[01:36] <apb1963> pers3us: "It" what is "it"?  The card?
[01:36] <pers3us> AA2012, Can you not install flashplayer-plugin?
[01:36] <pers3us> apb1963, ya
[01:36] <AA2012> how
[01:37] <apb1963> pers3us: Again... I'm lost on that one.  Why would a wireless card only try to connect if the network is wired?
[01:37] <pers3us> apb1963, ah sorry, i mean ubuntu. not the chipset. ubuntu tries to connect wired on bootup but not wireless
[01:38] <aeoril> What is the best way to remote into Ubuntu desktop?  I used to use VNC, but was wondering if anything else is in wide use
[01:38] <pers3us> apb1963, Wireless connection shouldn't happen till you are logged in
[01:38] <apb1963> pers3us: OK, but that puts us back at square one.  What is causing the boot delay in the Network Configuration?
[01:38] <aeoril> (graphically)
[01:38] <pers3us> aeoril, VNC is only one that i know of.
[01:39] <apb1963> pers3us: No, that doesn't make sense...  you're saying (assuming I had no wire) that I don't get network unless I login?
[01:39] <pers3us> apb1963, let me think.
[01:39] <aeoril> pers3us ok - is there a native VNC server that comes with Saucy desktop that works well?
[01:40] <pers3us> apb1963, ya you wont get connected to any network till you are logged in, unless it is a wired network.
[01:40] <aeoril> well, not really "native", but through normal apt-get?
[01:40] <apb1963> I think what I said earlier is at least part of the solution if not all of it...  wlan0 dhcp in the interfaces file doesn't make sense if the router is not giving out dhcp addresses... but ... I don't think that's the whole solution.... and might even be a different problem.
[01:40] <pers3us> aeoril, There are lots of them. Google it .
[01:41] <aeoril> pers3us ok, but if I remember correctly when I used it before, there were only three (I think) servers and I could only get one to work (I am not talking about clients)
[01:41] <pers3us> aeoril, one that i remember is vino.
[01:42] <aeoril> pers3us googling ...
[01:42] <apb1963> pers3us: wafflejock: I get tons of these, because I blocked and log them in iptables: Dec 10 17:41:14 asterisk kernel: [18823.904656] IPTables-Dropped: IN=wlan0 OUT= MAC= SRC=169.254.7.192 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=81 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=48260 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=6
[01:42] <pers3us> aeoril, apt-cache search vnc
[01:42] <aeoril> pers3us ok, thanks :)
[01:43] <apb1963> so maybe that's my dhcp problem in interfaces
[01:43] <pers3us> apb1963, This doesnt look like a request for dhcp.
[01:44] <pers3us> apb1963, Have a look https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicast_address
[01:45] <apb1963> Multicast DNS (mDNS) address
[01:46] <apb1963> so now I'm even more lost.  lol
[01:46] <daftykins> apb1963: if you're managing wireless with network manager, you shouldn't have anything more than an "auto wlan0" entry in interfaces afaik
[01:46] <daftykins> or in fact, i'm not sure you mention the interfaces at all when NM manages them
[01:46] <apb1963> daftykins: that's just it... nothing shows up in network manager... on those days where network manager actually shows up at all.
[01:46] <daftykins> that sounds uncharacteristically unreliable
[01:46] <apb1963> today, it's not showing up at all
[01:46] <daftykins> what've you done to your install? :D
[01:47] <apb1963> lol
[01:47] <pers3us> lol
[01:47] <pers3us> seriously what have you done? :P
[01:47] <apb1963> well... I started with a server install
[01:47] <apb1963> then I added a desktop, because my other machine which was my desktop - died.
[01:47] <daftykins> ruh-roh
[01:47] <pers3us> is it 12.04 server?
[01:47] <pers3us> :O
[01:47] <apb1963> yes
[01:47] <aeoril> pers3us fyi I found this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Saucy_Remote_Access#Remote_Access
[01:47] <daftykins> so you've been hacking at it ever since? :D
[01:48] <apb1963> then, after installing asterisk and a softphone...  a DBUS bug was found...
[01:48] <pers3us> aeoril, Are you trying to connect to ubuntu machine from a different computer right?
[01:48] <aeoril> pers3us yes
[01:49] <aeoril> (with a gui)
[01:49] <pers3us> aeoril, Install vino, set it up and then install a vnc client on the other machine and connect from there.
[01:49] <apb1963> i reported the dbus bug as best I could, but never heard back and haven't had time to follow up... I just assumed that the massive updates that came down soon after were the reason for it :)
[01:49] <pers3us> it will work same as Remote desktop
[01:49] <aeoril> pers3us is remote desktop native to the Ubuntu distro?
[01:50] <pers3us> Remote desktop is native to windows. it works on RDP
[01:50] <apb1963> the softphone developer changed his code so as to avoid tickling the bug... so it's unclear whether the dbus bug was fixed or not.
[01:50] <pers3us> afaik there are no servers that provide RDP on ubuntu
[01:50] <pers3us> apb1963, you have lost it :D
[01:50] <apb1963> sflphone by the way.  Very nice phone.
[01:51] <apb1963> open source
[01:51] <apb1963> pers3us: I've always been mad.  lol
[01:51] <aeoril> pers3us oh, yes - I know what you are talking about now - I did not realize you were talking about windows
[01:52] <wafflejock> apb1963: yeah like sflphone too
[01:52] <pers3us> apb1963, IIRC (i am not sure so verify) the network service is handled differently in server edition, since it is headless.
[01:52] <apb1963> the thing is....  I'm pretty sure this network issue has always existed, but not 100% sure.
[01:52] <apb1963> pers3us: that, I have no idea.
[01:52] <pers3us> when you try to install kubuntu over it, the network manger won't show the interfaces.
[01:53] <apb1963> pers3us: yes, that's one of my issues
[01:53] <pers3us> apb1963, So when you try to configure the interfaces from /etc/network/* folder then it has completely different set of configurations,
[01:53] <apb1963> "it" being... network manager?
[01:54] <pers3us> umm, i don't know the exact package name but the service is networking
[01:54] <apb1963> ok
[01:54] <pers3us> not NetworkManager
[01:54] <apb1963> got it
[01:54] <pers3us> so when you try to use wireless you have to add a script to your ip.up.d/ folder
[01:55] <apb1963> pers3us: that I don't think I've ever done
[01:55] <pers3us> cz if you try to enable the wireless for networking (the service) it will try to connect but it wont have wpa password to actually open the connection
[01:56] <pers3us> this is probably why you are getting delayed in bootup.
[01:56] <malt> whats a good web editor design like dreamweaver in ubuntu software
[01:56] <pers3us> This is possibly the only hypothesis i can come up with :D so pardon me if I am wrong.
[01:56] <apb1963> pers3us: this sounds very interesting
[01:56] <apb1963> and beyond my scope
[01:57] <apb1963> so what is this script you speak of?
[01:57] <pers3us> apb1963, Have a look here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1963404
[01:57] <somsip> !brain
[01:58] <somsip> !nvu | malt
[01:59] <somsip> !html | malt
[01:59] <Noft> Yo
[02:00] <malt> somsip none of these are in software manager how do i get more sources
[02:01] <pers3us> malt apt-cache search "packagename"
[02:01] <pers3us> sudo apt-get install "exactPacckagename"
[02:01] <malt> I did it finds nothing how can I get more sources
[02:02] <somsip> malt: type !info {packagename} if you want to know more about a specific package
[02:04] <wafflejock> !ppa | malt
[02:05] <wafflejock> malt: check out http://www.codeacademy.com if you want to learn to develop though probably better off than with any "WYSIWYG" editor since they can't easily account for various screen dimensions
[02:06] <wafflejock> malt: when it comes to webdev your better off knowing the languages or using something like WordPress or Drupal or whatever where the admin is done through a web interface, even then learning the underlying technologies is where it's really at for jobs
[02:07] <pers3us> ^yeah, exactly what wafflejock is saying. Just use sublime and write it yourself. In general dreamweaver or any WYSIWYG editor isn't a good idea
[02:09] <wafflejock> malt: I suggest you do the basic web development tutorial on codeacademy then do the javascript one, then join us in the AngularJS chat and start learning Angular, there are lots of options but IMHO this is the best in the business at the moment
[02:09] <pers3us> wafflejock, You on angular as well! :D
[02:09] <wafflejock> pers3us: who isn't :)
[02:09] <malt> I just want a html that shows template lets you click on that spot and goes direct to the part to edit
[02:11] <pers3us> wafflejock, I did a mobile (phonegap) app using angular, it was fun. Though I think it has quite a learning curve
[02:11] <wafflejock> malt: why? between chrome developer tools and having livereload setup with grunt things are very easy in the end, having a graphical editor results in garbage code 99% of the time (granted ADT and iOS dev this isn't so true since things are more restricted/known)
[02:11] <wafflejock> pers3us: definite learning curve but would suggest it over learning 5 other libraries and mashing them up
[02:11] <gonyere> so, I recently bought a new desktop (this one: http://moofi.woot.com/offers/quad-core-desktop-with-1tb-hd-19) and apparently it could do with a video card upgrade... any suggestions?
[02:11] <toki78>  /msg NickServ identify wbc67klm
[02:11] <somsip> toki78: and.....change it
[02:12] <toki78> :)))
[02:12] <toki78> sh.....
[02:12] <toki78> how ?
[02:12] <somsip> !password
[02:12] <somsip> maybe not. !register perhaps. Not sure
[02:12] <toki78> !register
[02:13] <wafflejock> malt: you can get yeoman installed http://yeoman.io/community-generators.html then install the angular generator, do a mkdir, cd into there, yo angular, and you get a web project all setup for you ready for test to be written and with a live server, run grunt server and all changes saved via any editor will auto-reload in the browser, it's really sweet once you configure a few things
[02:15] <toki78> oh man, that never happened to me :((
[02:15] <_pers3us_> wafflejock, I think he will go mad if he starts doing angular withouth knowing web-basics. :D
[02:15] <wafflejock> pers3us: yeah for sure just saying there is tons of tooling out there to make it easier but WYSIWYG isn't the way to go
[02:16] <wafflejock> pers3us: for Android or iOS sure
[02:16] <wafflejock> pers3us: but not web development, especially in the mobile heavy world
[02:16] <pers3us> wafflejock, not even for Android. I would always suggest writing it rather than WYSIWYG tools.
[02:16] <wafflejock> pers3us: yeah but ADT tools are helpful design wise
[02:17] <wafflejock> in web dev using grunt for livereload so you don't ever have to refresh and can test multiple devices and see changes on every save is key
[02:17] <apb1963> wafflejock: pers3us: final answer appears to be http://pastebin.com/BG3117AH  although I have not tested it.
[02:17] <SickDual> what does it mean when my disk says 37/97 and a lot of numbers that are bad sectored?
[02:17] <wafflejock> apb1963: hmm k let us know if it works out if you could
[02:17] <pers3us> apb1963, ya i read that thread, this should work! :D give it a try and let us know.
[02:18] <apb1963> stop: Unknown instance:
[02:19] <apb1963> dang.
[02:19] <pers3us> lol
[02:20] <malt> somsip , kompozer was perfect thanks
[02:20] <wafflejock> pers3us: how was working with PhoneGap?
[02:20] <wafflejock> pers3us: I mean good bad ugly
[02:21] <pers3us> Its like best of two worlds! I enjoyed writing in Angular, and then it worked perfectly on most of the mobile phones.
[02:21] <pers3us> It has its quirks though.
[02:22] <schultza> how can i tell if my isc-dhcp-server is listening on the right port only?
[02:22] <wafflejock> pers3us: nice, I've just dabbled in Android native dev some but mostly focus on desktop/laptop focused web app type stuff, also doing some more static mobile friendly stuff too but sort of rolling my own and using bootstrap largely
[02:22] <pers3us> Unless you really want things to be really really fast and you aren't writing angular like a fool (which i initially did) it works quite nicely
[02:22] <SickDual> ?? anyone?
[02:22] <wafflejock> !details | SickDual
[02:23] <wafflejock> schultza: nmap
[02:23] <SickDual> Not sure if its the right chat tho, its about my hard drive?
[02:23] <wafflejock> SickDual: well if you run ubuntu someone may know
[02:23] <somsip> malt: np
[02:24] <pers3us> wafflejock, Nice, how was working on Android native. All I did was modify a few java classes here and there while I was developing with Phonegap, I have no real andrdoi dev exp.
[02:24] <schultza> wafflejock: how would i use nmap to to watch for this?
[02:24] <SickDual> Im running ubuntu 13.10 and I recently just swapped my old hard drive that was going to die out for my other old laptops. Sucessfull install and everything but in disks it says good condition 37/97 c and 200 somethin sectors that are bad? Im wondering what that means.
[02:25] <wafflejock> pers3us: really like it, I'm a Java/AS3 guy to some degree though, dabbled a little in C when I didn't know what I was doing yet but worked professionally in AS3/Java for 3 years now moving into AS3 and falling back on PHP since I just find it easier than Java for most simple stuff
[02:25] <wafflejock> pers3us: did a little demo thing recently for using the face tracking API which is nice and easy, gives you an array of Faces with some info on position and confidence
[02:26] <wafflejock> schultza: nmap will show you which ports are open
[02:26] <somsip> wafflejock: pers3us: though I'm in a very similar boat right now and it is interesting to read this, it is rather OT for here
[02:26] <pers3us> wafflejock, Wow, sounds fun. I will give it a try.
[02:26] <wafflejock> !info nmap
[02:26] <wafflejock> somsip: sorry you're right realized that about 5 min ago will keep it out of here now
[02:26] <pers3us> SomeDamnBody, Sorry! :D
[02:26] <somsip> wafflejock: np :)
[02:27] <lickalott> Hey all.  Having an issue with a corrupt boot partition (grub I believe ).  On sda5 of that drive is my data.  Its kvm2 and I can't seem to get it to mount.  I've tried lvscan, the vg commands etc...  it says the partition table is missing.  Anyone know of a way I can get my stuff back?
[02:27] <pers3us> somsip, Sorry :D
[02:27] <pers3us> Okay wafflejock, catch you later! its sleep time nite! :)
[02:27] <wafflejock> pers3us: yup g'night
[02:28] <spence> how do i reset the logon screen theme to it's default settings (gdm)
[02:28] <SickDual> oka
[02:30] <SickDual> Anyone know why my IRC channel color prefrences arent updating?
[02:31] <wafflejock> SickDual: nope might help if you say what client you use too though, I'm not a big IRC client explorer
[02:31] <daftykins> SickDual: client support is probably best handled by some channel to do with the client rather than the OS
[02:31] <SickDual> wafflejock, Sorry its XChat
[02:32] <wafflejock> SickDual: also not so sure about your hard drive errors you may want to check out the SMART tools to see if you can see if you can get more info about possible hard drive failure indicators some of them have wear level or other properties that can help to see what's going on
[02:32] <SickDual> Thanks
[02:33] <SickDual> So run smart tools?
[02:35] <Beldar> SickDual, ubuntu has a smart tool built in and you can use others from the repo.
[02:37] <Kirsch> hey all i just ran apt-get upgrade and i got a ton of out of space on /tmp, checked and its only 1M… any ideas?
[02:38] <cyberputz> how much available space do you have on /tmp ?
[02:39] <Kirsch> none… the actual size is only 1M...
[02:39] <daftykins> Kirsch: can you paste.ubuntu.com "df -h" ?
[02:39] <Kirsch> read my mind - 1sec
[02:39] <Kirsch> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6554379/
[02:39] <cyberputz> that was quick
[02:39] <Kirsch> i know what i'm doing ;-) at least most of the time
[02:40] <cyberputz> were you intending to mount another filesystem on /tmp ?
[02:40] <daftykins> most of my help giving in here is me twiddling my thumbs waiting for people to do something
[02:40] <daftykins> you had that before i'd even fetched a blueberry muffin from the kitchen D:
[02:41] <Kirsch> cyberputz: no -it seems like this just happened on me
[02:42] <daftykins> Kirsch: hrmm logout/login or restart might be worth a go first, i don't think i understand how tmp works enough for anything more than that
[02:42] <daftykins> was it just during the package download?
[02:42] <Kirsch> daftykins: no it was during install
[02:42] <cyberputz> no, he literally only has 1M available in /tmp
[02:43] <cyberputz> in total.
[02:43] <daftykins> yeah i know, i read it
[02:43] <Kirsch> is it worth seeing fstab
[02:43] <Kirsch> ?
[02:43] <daftykins> why not
[02:43] <Kirsch>  /etc/fstab http://paste.ubuntu.com/6554386/
[02:44] <cyberputz> no mention of /tmp
[02:44] <cyberputz> what about mtab ?
[02:45] <Kirsch>  /etc/mtab http://paste.ubuntu.com/6554402/
[02:45] <Kirsch> its listed there
[02:45] <Kirsch> as overflow?
[02:45] <cyberputz> umount /tmp and you should have 13g at your disposal in /
[02:45] <Kirsch> device is busy…
[02:45] <Kirsch> can i remove from mtab and reboot?
[02:46] <cyberputz> dont need to remove from mtab, you could reboot, or you could use lsof /tmp and kill anything that has a lock on /tmp
[02:46] <cyberputz> lemme re-read your fstab.
[02:47] <Kirsch> tomcat and my vmtools.. (yes its a VM inside an ESXi host)
[02:47] <Kirsch> hmmm
[02:47] <cyberputz> oh. what about /etc/auto.master
[02:47] <daftykins> size=10% was appended there 0o
[02:47] <daftykins> is that not a bit weird
[02:47] <Mathias> where does lightdm log to?
[02:48] <Kirsch> cyberputz: i dont have auto.master
[02:48] <Mathias> it seems that i can't log in anymore... :\
[02:48] <cyberputz> no automount? ok
[02:48] <Kirsch> i'm on precise
[02:48] <Kirsch> LTS
[02:49] <cyberputz> well, if you didnt deliberately mount /tmp , id suspect automount .
[02:49] <cyberputz> (barring fstab entries)
[02:49] <Kirsch> ok so i killed those 2 processes and lsof isn't showing anything and i can't unmount it still
[02:50] <cyberputz> ah here you go
[02:50] <cyberputz> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/60731/overflow-tmp-mounted-when-there-is-free-space-on
[02:50] <cyberputz> ive never seen that before.
[02:51] <cyberputz> try umount -f /tmp
[02:51] <cyclicflux> Good evening all!!!
[02:51] <Kirsch> -f didn't work
[02:51] <cyberputz> apparently it does this to a ram disk.. neat.
[02:51] <Kirsch> i saw that article… i couldn't even unmount it -  this is where it got stuck
[02:54] <Mathias> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6554422/ found it
[02:54] <Mathias> now i need to know what happens <.<
[02:55] <al_la> Hey all, in need of help. I'm on 13.04, running distro upgrade tool for 13.10. It's completed the steps 'preparing to upgrade' 'setting new software channels' 'getting new packages' and is working on 'installing the upgrades', but in the terminal below it says (after 'setting up ... packages') '... downloading ... flashplugin ..'.  While doing this additional downloading, my internet died, and now that it
[02:55] <al_la> is back, the window is still sitting there as if that specific step/process of the tool has hanged.  No way to cancel or force refresh or test of internet.  Thoughts?
[02:56] <Kirsch> woot i was able to unmount it! it was winbindd that was also locking, lsof | grep tmp showed it
[02:56] <cyberputz> well, thanks, i learned something from that =p
[02:56] <buu> al_la: Uh, kill the tool and restart it?
[02:59] <al_la> buu: I didn't know how the tool would handle being killed part way ... feels dangerous through a half upgraded system
[03:00] <buu> al_la: I have faith in you
[03:00] <Mathias> is it possible to list x screens?
[03:05] <wolfzrat> hello fellow ubuntu folks
[03:06] <Duel-Travis> NickServ  identify f8tbikeco
[03:06] <cyberputz> fail
[03:06] <cyberputz> :D
[03:06] <Duel-Travis> lol right
[03:07] <wolfzrat> do you guys know the ubuntu channel
[03:07] <DasEi> wolfzrat: this is ?!
[03:07] <Beldar> wolfzrat, no where is it?
[03:08] <wolfzrat> i got it its #ubuntustudio
[03:12] <bajrang> hi
[03:14] <leptone> im updating to 12.1. im asked to select lightdm or gdm when prompted with "configuring lightdm" which should i choose?
[03:15] <daftykins> leptone: probably lightdm, but if it breaks, just "dpkg-reconfigure lightdm" to repick
[03:15] <mana5ikana> lightdm
[03:15] <leptone> ty
[03:26] <hans_henrik> id like to execute a script whenever the OOM-killer has finished, id also like to know exactly what the oom-killer just did, any easy way to do that? (that doesn't include patching the kernel)
[03:26] <schaaaf> hey guys i have a question: i want to install dev-libs for compiling but i cant because a virtual package is blocking it :(
[03:28] <schaaaf> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Build_A_Simulator_Manually : "Editor's note 2: There can only be one libgl development package installed at the time. If there are any conflicts, remove (purge) the installed package and retry. "
[03:29] <schaaaf> i have tried removing it but it wont work :(
[03:29] <somsip> hans_henrik: easy way? Grep the syslog periodically and take some action if you get a matching OOM in the last period. Probably not the best way though
[03:29] <hans_henrik> No, but i like it!
[03:30] <hans_henrik> somsip, thanks
[03:30] <Mathias> this lightdm shenanigans is driving me insane :(
[03:30] <hans_henrik> whats wrong with lightdm? i use it with lxde and im pretty happy about it
[03:31] <hans_henrik> (tho ive only been using it for 2-3 weeks)
[03:31] <Mathias> it denies me to log in <.<
[03:31] <hans_henrik> lol
[03:31] <hans_henrik> ok i see how that could be annoying
[03:31] <Mathias> just restarts the greeter
[03:31] <Mathias> third time on this install
[03:31] <Mathias> and i still have no idea on what's happening
[03:31] <Mathias> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6554422/
[03:32] <hans_henrik> my tsundere laptop greets me every day with "Disk I/O erorr;", refuse to boot until i sweettalk with it;  then it goes "Oh, its only you..LOCKED", then a password, then its all like "welcome back!"
[03:32] <Mathias> "password please. correct password! now go to the next login and do the same"
[03:33] <somsip> hans_henrik: then you may like this too http://is.gd/orFnPR It's not great but it gives something to start from
[03:36] <fxprob> Hi. I use ubuntu server 12 and MySQL randomly crashed. All i found is this in syslog http://pastebin.com/Qic1ePif
[03:36] <fxprob> Why is that happened? What is wrong with server?
[03:37] <somsip> fxprob: check /var/log/mysql/error.log
[03:37] <fxprob> its empty
[03:37] <fxprob> there /var/log/mysql.log
[03:37] <fxprob> 0byte
[03:37] <somsip> fxprob: make sure your my.cnf is setup to write to that log, restart mysql, make it crash, check the log again
[03:38] <somsip> fxprob: and read which log I suggested you look at
[03:38] <fxprob> there is no such file in /var/log/mysql, there only mariadb-bin.index, mariadb-bin.state and alot mariadb-bin.0000[numbers]
[03:38] <fxprob> and yes, i use MariaDB
[03:39] <somsip> !info mariadb
[03:39] <somsip> fxprob: where did you get it from?
[03:40] <fxprob> here https://downloads.mariadb.org/mariadb/repositories/#mirror=coreix&distro=Ubuntu&distro_release=precise&version=10.0
[03:41] <fxprob> so its problem because not original MySQL?
[03:41] <somsip> fxprob: so that's a PPA which is not supported here. I suggest you try #mysql (or #mariadb if that is right), but as I said before, check your my.cnf (if there is one with mariadb) and make sure the logs are setup and then try to get some output you can use to troubleshoot.
[03:42] <fxprob> logs is disabled by default with comments like its slows down everything
[03:42] <fxprob> but okay, thank you
[03:43] <somsip> fxprob: that will be general log file. You need the error log file to be enabled
[03:43] <fxprob> ># Be aware that this log type is a performance killer.
[03:43] <fxprob> that what its says near #general_log_file        = /var/log/mysql/mysql.log
[03:43] <hans_henrik> somsip, yeah, thanks again ^^ that should help me get started
[03:43] <somsip> fxprob: you need to read what I'm saying, and you really need to go to a channel that is for mariadb support
[03:44] <somsip> hans_henrik: np
[03:44] <fxprob> yes, thank you
[03:44] <slayer91790> So I'm guessing that log should only be enabled when troubleshooting?
[03:44] <Sgp667> hey does anyone know how can i stop ubuntu from using loopback to contact DNS servers?
[03:44] <somsip> slayer91790: I always enable the error log. I don't think I've ever used the general log
[03:45] <Sgp667> because this will probabily not work
[03:45] <slayer91790> Ahh...got ya
[03:45] <energizer> Hello, I have very inconsistent wifi connection. Help please!
[03:46] <schaaaf> energizer: any errors in your error log?
[03:47] <energizer> ehh how do i check?
[03:48] <schaaaf> use the log viewer or check your sys.log in /var/log/
[03:48] <energizer> and what am i looking for
[03:48] <energizer> in the viewer
[03:48] <schaaaf> errors with your wifi
[03:49] <schaaaf> the syslog
[03:50] <energizer> ive got a lot going on with wlan1, not sure if anything is an error
[03:50] <energizer> would it say "ERROR" or something?
[03:50] <schaaaf> maybe paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[03:50] <Mathias> AHA! X segfaults
[03:51] <energizer> schaaaf: is there likely anything (keys?) in there that i shouldn't have on the internet?
[03:52] <schaaaf> probably not
[03:53] <energizer> schaaaf: http://pastebin.com/Z8UJyUQK
[03:53] <schaaaf> another approach would be searching after your ubuntu version number plus your vendor
[03:55] <energizer> do you see anything interesting in the log?
[03:56] <schaaaf> is your dhcp configured correctly?
[03:58] <energizer> schaaaf: there actually does seem to be somthing up with dhcp, though im not sure if the dhcp problem is the cause or the symptom
[03:58] <osubuntu> Hello I am an Ubuntu user.
[03:59] <energizer> schaaaf: im gonna mess with dhcp for a second and see if something changes. i'll need to restart.
[04:00] <osubuntu> If the computer is crashed, does Alt+SysRq+S work?
[04:00] <osubuntu> The synchronize command
[04:01] <osubuntu> But not a kernel panic which makes Caps Lock led delicator blink
[04:02] <Orioa> anyone know what the ubuntu help channel is
[04:03] <leptone> hello idk what just happened my ubuntu 12.04 seems to have kinda crashed. the dock on the left of the screen in missing and i cant alt+tab thro my open processes
[04:03] <leptone> one of the processes was updating to 12.1 so id rather not reboot
[04:03] <somsip> leptone: this might help http://askubuntu.com/questions/38579/how-do-i-restart-an-unity-session-from-the-terminal
[04:04] <bigbadben> leptone, seems like unity crashed are there any error messages?
[04:04] <matthew__> hi.. I tried upgrading to Ubuntu 13.10 but something is misconfigured.  My lightdm keeps crashing and sending me into low graphics mode.  So I can't run X windows.
[04:05] <osubuntu> Do you have invalid xorg.conf?
[04:06] <matthew__> hah hah if I knew that I wouldn't be here.  How do I check?
[04:06] <leptone> ran this command unity &> /dev/null & disown no help
[04:08] <matthew__> Is that supposed to be & or &&?
[04:09] <Mathias> is it better to reinstall to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 than to do it the usual way?
[04:09] <somsip> Mathias: some people swear by reinstalling. Others upgrade with no problems.
[04:10] <leptone> non of them are working
[04:10] <leptone> the command runs the monitor flashes and then same situatio
[04:10] <Mathias> oh btw, should i reinstall nvidia drivers after the upgrade?
[04:11] <Mathias> somsip: i've had a mixed experience with the usual way
[04:11] <buu> Mathias: How did you install them in the first place?
[04:12] <Mathias> buu: using the binary from nvidia's website
[04:12] <buu> Then yes.
[04:12] <Mathias> and i ran out of free space on /boot during the upgrade, lol
[04:12] <atomic-ant> hello, do you know games for ubuntu?
[04:12] <energizer1> schaaaf: So on my router, i have set this MAC address to 192.168.1.200. I'm connected to a Range Extender (which is connected to the router). My desktop has IP 192.168.1.122. When I disconnect from the Extender, I get 192.168.1.200, but my signal strength is low, of course.
[04:13] <schaaaf> atomic-ant: check playdeb.net
[04:14] <schaaaf> energizer1: hmmm doesn't sound like a too stable setup in general... but sorry i got to go to bed... good night
[04:15] <peyam> hi, I need a program that makes a serie of .png files into pdf..
[04:15] <energizer1> shit
[04:15] <buu> peyam: imagemagick?
[04:15] <energizer1> peyam use "convert" in the terminal
[04:15] <energizer1> (part of imagemagick)
[04:15] <peyam> energizer1, I dont have imagick. they are 26 png pictures
[04:16] <energizer1> peyam do you know how to use the terminal
[04:16] <buu> peyam: Well, do it by hand then
[04:16] <atomic-ant> schmidtm, thank you
[04:16] <peyam> energizer1, yes, never convert picture in terminal though
[04:16] <Mathias> bye bye 68 days of uptime :(
[04:17] <buu> peyam: so install imagemagick then convert
[04:17] <energizer1> peyam. you should install imagemagick. Enter terminal, type "sudo apt-get install imagemagick". Press enter. It will ask for your password. Type it, press enter.
[04:17] <buu> How is this complicated
[04:18] <peyam> energizer1, yes. and how to convert so many picture in terminal?
[04:18] <energizer1> one step at a time, brother
[04:18] <buu> energizer1: Do range extenders send on the mac address when you connect to it?
[04:18] <buu> peyam: convert *.png ihateyou.pdf
[04:18] <energizer1> buu i think there's something going on with an "internnal" and an "external" mac
[04:18] <energizer1> buu subtle
[04:19] <buu> thanks
[04:19] <peyam> buu I want to convert al .png files into ONE pdf file
[04:19] <buu> I am a king of subtlety. And being humble.
[04:19] <buu> peyam: And what I just said does that.
[04:19] <atomic-ant> schaaaf, thank you
[04:19] <energizer1> atomic-ant: schaaaf is gone
[04:19] <peyam> so it is convert a.png 2.png .. Ihateyou.pdf?
[04:19] <phong_> hi guys
[04:20] <buu> energizer1: How can you have an internal mac?
[04:21] <buu> Also phong had the world's coolest photoshop tutorials back in the day.
[04:21] <phong_> peyam, hey man, OT, i nknow, but just curriuos, what is the term where guys tide ...so that women won't get pregnant.
[04:21] <phong_> i really forget the term.
[04:21] <atomic-ant> energizer1, thank you
[04:21] <peyam> idk
[04:21] <buu> phong_: .. tide?
[04:21] <umopapIsdn> How can I join #ubuntu?
[04:21] <umopapIsdn> Oh sory I already joined :/
[04:21] <somsip> buu: please do not feed the troll
[04:21] <phong_> buu, yeah so that women dont get pregnant
[04:21] <phong_> i just forgot the term
[04:22] <buu> somsip: Its inflaming my curiosity
[04:22] <buu> somsip: what oculd he possibly mean?
[04:22] <phong_> i want to do a research on it before i have it done
[04:22] <somsip> !ot | phong_
[04:22] <somsip> umopapIsdn: you are in it
[04:22] <phong_> somsip, i know man
[04:22] <energizer1> phong_: This is not the appropriate forum for discussing vasectomies.
[04:22] <phong_> can anyone pm me?
[04:22] <somsip> buu: take it private if you want to know
[04:22] <phong_> energizer1, i think i got your term
[04:23] <phong_> thanks energizer1
[04:23] <phong_> brb
[04:24] <energizer1> buu maybe im confused -- its been a while since ive messed with wifi. There's an internal and external something, thought it was MAC; maybe its IP
[04:24] <energizer1> (obviosuly theres an internal/external ip to the network, but i mean specifically for the range extender)
[04:25] <energizer1> no problem peyam
[04:25] <atomic-ant> hello someone of you makes videos for youtube?
[04:25] <somsip> !info gtk-recordmydesktop | atomic-ant
[04:26] <energizer1> Anybody seen varunendra in here?
[04:41] <technoviking> ಠ_ಠ
[04:49] <macs> Can anyone help me connect to WiFi on my laptop? It works on my phone and its a problem that just emerged after updating Ubuntu
[04:53] <macs> #linux
[04:53] <macs> Can anyone help me get WiFi on my laptop that I get on my phone?
[04:58] <luminous> hello! what do you do when you can't find a package that ought to be there?
[04:58] <somsip> luminous: which one?
[04:59] <luminous> I've added to sources.list: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main
[04:59] <luminous> looking for msmtp
[04:59] <somsip> luminous: and...which package?
[04:59] <somsip> luminous: k - laaag
[04:59] <somsip> !info msmtp
[04:59] <luminous> and offlineimap
[05:00] <somsip> luminous: pretty sure I installed them both from official repos
[05:00] <somsip> !info offlineimap
[05:00] <luminous> somsip: this is from inside a docker container for 12.04
[05:01] <somsip> luminous: no idea what that means. But looks like you need universe and extras enabled. Not sure if just 'main' covers that
[05:01] <lickalott> gents, I had to run out before.  Did anyone comment on my issue? i can't even boot the disk now.  At this point I'm pretty sure it's either a grub or mbr issue and i don't want to deal with that.  So i figured i would just mount the partition with my data on it and get some stuff.  Then - fresh install.  Turns out my sda5 (linux LVM) doesn't have a partition table so it won't mount.  i've tried
[05:01] <lickalott> lvm2 and all the associated commands but it refuses to mount.
[05:01] <luminous> somsip: seems like only universe was needed
[05:01] <luminous> thanks for helping me sort it out
[05:02] <somsip> luminous: np. what client will you be using as a matter of interest?
[05:03] <luminous> somsip: I'm testing out sup, a ruby client - http://supmua.org/
[05:03] <somsip> luminous: k. I have some blog posts about setting these up with mutt, if you think they might be helpful?
[05:03] <Andreas_>  /server irc.nyi.net
[05:04] <luminous> somsip: yea, likely :)
[05:04] <somsip> luminous: k - fwiw http://is.gd/hudMlP
[05:06] <luminous> thanks! somsip
[05:06] <somsip> luminous: np
[05:12] <TeHHerzog> http://www.twitch.tv/tehherzog
[05:14] <lickalott> anyone?
[05:15] <aeon-ltd> lickalott: nope
[05:15] <aeon-ltd> lickalott: did you have a question?
[05:15] <lickalott> hey aeon-ltd
[05:16] <lickalott> yeah
[05:16] <lickalott> was wondering if anyone had any ideas for me to access the LVM partition on my messed up boot
[05:16] <lickalott> drive
[05:16] <aeon-ltd> how messed up?
[05:17] <lickalott>  i can't even boot the disk now.  At this point I'm pretty sure it's either a grub or mbr issue and i don't want to deal with that.  So i figured i would just mount the partition with my data on it and get some stuff.  Then - fresh install.  Turns out my sda5 (linux LVM) doesn't have a partition table so it won't mount.  i've tried lvm2 and all the associated commands but it refuses to mount
[05:17] <lickalott> .
[05:19] <Foxhoundz> Ubuntu doesn't see my Windows partition
[05:19] <Foxhoundz> instead tries to force me to wipe the entire drive
[05:19] <Foxhoundz> when I'm first installing from live USB
[05:19] <Foxhoundz> what gives?
[05:21] <leptone> is it a bad idea to use the update-manager -d GUI to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04?
[05:21] <leptone> i read that it is better to go from 12.10 to 13.10 then from 12.1 to 13.04 to 13.10
[05:22] <lickalott> that's kind of why i'm in the position i'm in leptone
[05:22] <lickalott> after I upgraded to 13.04 my entire FS was read-only
[05:22] <leptone> lickalott, sorry whats your position and how did you get there?
[05:22] <leptone> ok so i should go straight to 13.1
[05:23] <lickalott> i have join/part turned off.  did you just join?
[05:23] <leptone> join what?
[05:23] <leptone> this channel
[05:23] <lickalott> this chan
[05:23] <leptone> ?
[05:23] <lickalott> just so I know if I should "point up" or repaste my issue
[05:23] <leptone> aaa yeah but ive been on and off periodically tonight
[05:24] <lickalott> i just posted about 5 mins ago
[05:24] <leptone> repaste plz
[05:25] <Villiska> Is 13.04 ubuntu more stable than 13.10? im new
[05:25] <supergauntlet> if you want stability get 12.04
[05:25] <supergauntlet> or wait for 14.04, that's the next LTS
[05:25] <lickalott> LVM issues.  After I upgraded and realized the fs was read-only I ran a fsck.  that made things worse and now it won't boot.  the repair boot program doesn't see grub.  so... i figured i'd just mount my data partition, pull some stuff off of it and rebuild.  it's not a simple task to mount an lvm partition especially if it doesn't have a parition table
[05:26] <Villiska> What are 12.10/13.04/13.10 considered then?
[05:26] <lickalott> I would stick with 12.04 for the lts leptone (but that's me)
[05:26] <Villiska> betas or something?
[05:26] <Villiska> If I use 12.04, would I want to use the latest kernel or stick with 3.2?
[05:26] <supergauntlet> they're just regular releases
[05:26] <lickalott> non long term support releases.  You may get 9 months of support for 13.04
[05:26] <supergauntlet> well you could go a new kernel
[05:26] <supergauntlet> but you'd be giving up stability
[05:27] <Villiska> I'm just having an extremely frustrating problem with my graphics card or something and the only distro out of like 10 that works perfectly
[05:27] <Villiska> is ubuntu 13.10 unity
[05:27] <Villiska> but its too buggy
[05:27] <Villiska> programs act up too much
[05:28] <lickalott> btw: aeon-ltd (disregard the fedora mentions) i did this - http://linux-sxs.org/storage/fedora2ubuntu.html
[05:28] <Foxhoundz> someone must know!
[05:28] <supergauntlet> Yeah my GPU has decided it likes falling off the bus
[05:28] <leptone> Villiska, 13.1 is the only distro that solves ur graphics problem but is very buggy?
[05:28] <supergauntlet> optimus on linux is still a ways away from working perfectly
[05:28] <lickalott> Foxhoundz you're not doing it right.  what tut are you following?
[05:28] <lickalott> i've done it a dozen times and never had issues
[05:29] <Villiska> leptone:  want me to explain my problem?
[05:29] <Villiska> because ive searched everywhere and ive found no resolution
[05:29] <leptone> villiska, no i was just trying to get straight wha u said
[05:30] <Villiska> Well
[05:30] <leptone> lickalott, so u are currently running 13.04 and your file system is read only, currently?
[05:30] <Foxhoundz> lickalott: no tut.
[05:30] <lickalott> true leptone
[05:30] <Villiska> On every distro I've tried, all *buntu, i've installed it just to find that it's laggy, screen tearing and it's not smooth at all. Even though it should be.
[05:30] <Villiska> However, Ubuntu 13.10 with Unity always installs with perfect smoothness and speed
[05:30] <lickalott> Foxhoundz I'd peruse the ubuntu forums for a good walkthrough.
[05:31] <lickalott> you should be gtg after that
[05:31] <Villiska> but it's buggy in terms of programs and stuff
[05:31] <leptone> lickalott, os there no conveint way to go back to your previous distro?
[05:31] <leptone> *is there
[05:32] <knightshade> Hello
[05:32] <cfhowlett> knightshade, greetings
[05:33] <lickalott> not now leptone
[05:33] <leptone> what do u mean "not now"
[05:34] <leptone> like not that youve found
[05:34] <leptone> or not now, that something is perventing you but usually it would be yes?
[05:34] <leptone> lickalott, hve you tried upgrading to 13.10?
[05:35] <lickalott> not
[05:35] <lickalott> *no
[05:35] <leptone> try it
[05:35] <leptone> run update-manager -d
[05:35] <leptone> in terminal
[05:35] <lickalott> i need some files before I do.  if I try to upgrade now it will overwrite all my shit
[05:35] <lickalott> it won't boot homey
[05:36] <cfhowlett> lickalott, language please ...
[05:36] <lickalott> i'm using a live CD just to see if I can get the thing mounted
[05:36] <lickalott> oh...
[05:36] <lickalott> sorry
[05:36] <lickalott> *stuff
[05:36] <leptone> language?
[05:36] <lickalott> i said the s word
[05:36] <leptone> oh
[05:36] <cfhowlett> this IS a family friendly channel, so .... :)
[05:36] <leptone> i thought he was tlkin bout "homey"
[05:36] <lickalott> lol
[05:36] <lickalott> noted
[05:36] <FriendlySeal> is it?
[05:37] <leptone> lol
[05:37] <FriendlySeal> im frenly
[05:37] <leptone> lickalott, have you tried booting into recovery mode?
[05:37] <impradeepy> ./msg nickserv identify ihappy
[05:37] <lickalott> i actually just booted suse because some of the forums said they had better luck with that, mounting lvm
[05:37] <lickalott> whoops
[05:37] <leptone> lickalott, how to you upgrade btw?
[05:37] <lickalott> yeah,
[05:37] <leptone> what did you do and what were u on before?
[05:38] <lickalott> apt-get upgrade
[05:38] <lickalott> 12.10 > 13.04
[05:38] <cfhowlett> lickalott, apt-get upgrade will not move you from 12.10 to 13.04  ... different command required.
[05:38] <leptone> apt-get upgrade
[05:38] <leptone> ?
[05:38] <leptone> just like that
[05:38] <LinDol> hi
[05:38] <LinDol> : )
[05:38] <leptone> ?
[05:39] <lickalott> something simliar.  Last time I logged in (im running server) it said that there is an upgrade and type "this" to accomplish it.
[05:39] <lickalott> so i did
[05:40] <leptone> not: apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:40] <leptone> ?
[05:40] <lickalott> might have been
[05:41] <cfhowlett> dist-upgrade will upgrade the CURRENT distro to the most current packages.  it will NOT upgrade the distro!
[05:41] <lickalott> it ran for a while (hour or so) then popped up, after a reboot, with a big fat 13.04 on it
[05:41] <leptone> hmm
[05:41] <leptone> well ima try it using the software updater and hopefully ill brb
[05:41] <leptone> wish me luck!
[05:42] <lickalott> gl
[05:44] <Mathias> apparently networking (or openvpn) gets killed somewhere in do-release-upgrade :o
[05:49] <leptone> hey lickalott before i go. if you can boot to recovery mode, if not try changing your grub setting, try running the "repair broken packages" option
[05:49] <FriendlySeal> hay lickalottmybutt
[05:49] <leptone> when i was updating from 12.04 to 12.1 unity crashed in the middle and i couldnt get it to come back so i had to reboot
[05:50] <shams> hi, i am new to ubuntu, have problem if somebody can help, i can not login, when login screen comes after some times, i enter the password it goes to a screen with nVidia logo i press Esc again back to login screen. i think its graphic driver problem how do i fix it thanks.
[05:50] <FriendlySeal> shams, open this
[05:50] <leptone> 12.1 was already installed but missing a bunch so it tried to reboot to 12.1 but was unable to
[05:50] <leptone> then i ran that from the recovery mode it took a long time but it worked after that
[05:50] <FriendlySeal> mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[05:51] <FriendlySeal> i mean move it
[05:51] <shams> FriendlySeal, sorry i am new to this chat too, what should i open .
[05:51] <FriendlySeal> after u boot back in then try looking at the conf
[05:52] <FriendlySeal> move that file
[05:52] <FriendlySeal> so u can log in ur OS
[05:52] <FriendlySeal> for now
[05:52] <lickalott> see leptone.....
[05:52] <lickalott> not as easy as they make it out to be
[05:52] <FriendlySeal> lickalott, wats not easy
[05:53] <shams> FriendlySeal, got it thank i will try that.
[05:53] <leptone> lickalott, FriendlySeal , yeah whats not easy?
[05:54] <lickalott> oh wait...yours worked?
[05:54] <lickalott> you're up and running on 12.1
[05:54] <lickalott> but after recovery mode and a few steps
[05:54] <lickalott> right?
[05:54] <FriendlySeal> pst install mint
[05:55] <FriendlySeal> beter yet jus go right to debian
[05:55] <DWTaylor> just gentoo that box and be done
[05:55] <FriendlySeal> wheezy is about as easy as ubuntu now
[05:56] <FriendlySeal> but then again i know business web server runing ubuntu server
[05:56] <FriendlySeal> linux is prety sweet
[05:57] <leptone> lickalott, yes after some work. but really it was only bc my unity crashed while i was doing the install and i wanted to continue to use my comp so i rebooted it bc i couldnt get unity to relaunch from terminal. if unity hadnt crashed i assume it would have gone without a hitch and it was an easy fix anyway
[05:57] <leptone> lickalott, are you able to boot your comp
[05:57] <FriendlySeal> lol
[05:58] <lickalott> with a live CD.  not with the hdd
[05:58] <leptone> ok and there is stuff on there you dont wanna loose right
[05:58] <leptone> ?
[05:59] <leptone> on ur hdd
[05:59] <lickalott> true
[05:59] <lickalott> i think i'm finally getting somewhere though.
[05:59] <FriendlySeal> why dont u idiots partition ur drives
[05:59] <FriendlySeal> gah
[05:59] <FriendlySeal> i have a 128G ssd
[05:59] <leptone> well that was mean
[05:59] <FriendlySeal> and im able to tripple boot
[05:59] <lickalott> i relabeled the partition linux vs Linux LVM and fsck is running now.
[05:59] <FriendlySeal> osx windows and 2 linuxes
[06:00] <lickalott> my drive is partitioned weiner head, the partitions are bad (no partition tables)
[06:00] <leptone> lickalott, when you boot from ur hdd do you get to the grub menu?
[06:00] <DWTaylor> I spit out my beer laughing at "weiner head."
[06:00] <lickalott> lol
[06:01] <lickalott> i already got yelled at for swearing so i figure I best keep it G-rated
[06:01] <jmgk> hi all
[06:01] <ObrienDave> somehow, I don't think I would have been that nice
[06:01] <jmgk> hi impradeepy
[06:01] <leptone> lickalott, do you make it to the purple grub menu whenbooting from ur hdd
[06:01] <leptone> ?
[06:02] <leptone> or do not even get that far?
[06:02] <lickalott> before....yeah leptone but when I hit boot to ubuntu and/or recovery it would take me to the initfs prompt (or whatever it was)
[06:02] <lickalott> not anymore
[06:02] <leptone> so u are able to boot properly now?
[06:02] <lickalott> neg
[06:02] <lickalott> you know whats painful??
[06:02] <leptone> or you dont get the grub menu anymore lickalott ?
[06:03] <lickalott> forgetting to throw the -y in on an fsck
[06:03] <lickalott> no leptone
[06:03] <lickalott> doesn't boot anymore
[06:03] <leptone> what did u between when u were getting grub and now where ur getting nothing?
[06:04] <leptone> lickalott, ^
[06:04] <lickalott> fsck and a reboot
[06:04] <leptone> so what happens when you boot ur comp
[06:05] <leptone> just stright to black screen
[06:05] <lickalott> hangs
[06:05] <leptone> nothing else?
[06:05] <lickalott> pretty much
[06:05] <FriendlySeal> hangs where
[06:05] <FriendlySeal> leme fix this crap
[06:05] <FriendlySeal> move aside idiots
[06:05] <lickalott> it hangs low and to the left
[06:05] <FriendlySeal> weres the problem?
[06:06] <lickalott> it doesn't boot.
[06:06] <leptone> do u have an external hard drive on hand large enough to hold the stuff u want off ur hdd/an image of ur hdd
[06:06] <leptone> lickalott, ^
[06:06] <FriendlySeal> were does it hang?
[06:06] <Jordan_U> lickalott: What exactly do you see at boot?
[06:06] <Guest98047> Hello
[06:06] <FriendlySeal> take a screenshot
[06:06] <FriendlySeal> jkjk
[06:06] <FriendlySeal> lol
[06:06] <lickalott> i'm not worried about that anymore FriendlySeal.  i just want to mount the LVM partition and get some files off
[06:06] <leptone> lol this guy^
[06:06] <Quigybobo> Can anyone help me with a teamspeak 3 issue that I am having?
[06:06] <lickalott> yea leptone I have a 1tb drive slaved in just in case I can get it mounted
[06:07] <Quigybobo> I am fairly new to linux
[06:07] <DWTaylor> I agree with the external hard drive suggestion.  Use the live CD, backup your files to an external drive, and then do a clean install.
[06:07] <lickalott> It being the bad drive
[06:07] <FriendlySeal> boot with a usb stick
[06:07] <FriendlySeal> then mount the drive
[06:07] <leptone> lickalott, dude boot from the live dirk you have. then plug in the external drive copy your file system over to it. or just all u want
[06:07] <leptone> then reinstall ubuntu from ur live disk.
[06:08] <lickalott> its still running through the fsck via suse.  I'll see if that works.
[06:08] <leptone> then do ur update the way i did and then move ur files back
[06:08] <lickalott> I appreciate the help, I really do! But I think you guys are missing the issue
[06:08] <Jordan_U> lickalott: What is the exact fsck command you ran?
[06:08] <lickalott> fsck -y /dev/mapper/Silentkiller-root
[06:08] <Quigybobo> I've looked at all the teamspeak 3 help forums. Tried everything that they say so far and I can't figure out why my program won't execute.
[06:10] <lickalott> the LVM partition that i want access to doesn't have a partition table so i can't mount it.  I've been at this all day (various googles, etc...) and can't seem to get it to mount.  It says something like it's has the wrong fs, it's read only, etc....etc...
[06:11] <lickalott> so I ran the SUSE live cd.  fsck'd the parition and rebooted and it's hanging after post.
[06:13] <DWTaylor> lickalott: Did all this happen after an upgrade?
[06:13] <lickalott> true Dwarf
[06:13] <FriendlySeal> boot from usb stick
[06:13] <lickalott> DWTaylor
[06:13] <FriendlySeal> then just look at what u did to ur harddrive
[06:13] <lickalott> i've done that, and tried to fix/reverse it.
[06:14] <lickalott> i'm out of options, which is why i'm here soliciting the assistance of the big brains
[06:14] <DWTaylor> Could it be a failing hard drive?  Missed how the problem began (sorry).
[06:15] <lickalott> could be.   but I didn't see any signs of that prior to the upgrade
[06:15] <DWTaylor> lickalott: Yea...if it happened right after upgrading, then the drive is probably OK.
[06:16] <Jordan_U> lickalott: What is the output of "sudo mount /dev/mapper/Silentkiller-root /mnt/"? Is the S.M.A.R.T. status of the drive good?
[06:17] <lickalott> i've actually been upgraded for about 2 weeks.  i went in to check the pics from my motion cameras and realized that it hadn't been ftp'ing them to the server for about 2 weeks.  So i deduced that it was because of the upgrade.  I dug in a little and found that the entire filesystem was read-only, to include my mounted hard drives.  So I rebooted, just to see.  And no change.  So I stared
[06:17] <lickalott> googling and found that some had results with an fsck.  So i did that.  it didn't finish and locked up the machine (left it running all night and it stopped about 15 mins after I left).  When i rebooted all this started.
[06:17] <lickalott> gotta give me a min Jordan_U, i'm booting into the live CD att
[06:18] <lickalott> it's an old 500gb ide drive.  not sure if smart applies does it?
[06:18] <Jordan_U> lickalott: For the record, your statement "the LVM partition that i want access to doesn't have a partition table so i can't mount it." doesn't make any sense. Logical volumes very rarely have partition tables, and when they do it's almost always because it's an LV containing a disk image used for a virtual machine.
[06:19] <DF3D2> having a hard time doing a usb install on a machine I just built, i5 3570k -- z77 motherboard. It just hangs at a purple screen. I googled and it said use nomodeset, I did that now it is just hanging with a blinking _
[06:20] <DF3D2> I did verify the md5 of the download
[06:22] <lickalott> oh?
[06:23] <lickalott> wonder why I can't mount it then.
[06:23] <Jordan_U> lickalott: What is the exact mount command you ran?
[06:23] <lickalott> mount /dev/mapper/Silentkiller-root /mnt/old
[06:23] <lickalott> alos tried -t ext4
[06:24] <lickalott> also tried -o ro,user
[06:24] <DF3D2> I can't seem to do the "verify integrity of this disk" from the menu either
[06:24] <Ben64> lickalott: whats the error
[06:24] <DF3D2> I have no idea what the issue is
[06:24] <Mathias> oh my..., now i have a too new kernel for the nvidia drivers
[06:25] <Ben64> don't install nvidia drivers manually Mathias
[06:25] <Mathias> the jockey tends to destroy my system completely
[06:25] <lickalott> tells me it's not the right FS or it's read only and some other stuff.  I'd have to go grab it if you want specifics.  my laptop battery started running out so i went and plugged it in (co located from the machine i'm working on)  Lemme go grab some info and I'll drop here in a bit.
[06:25] <Jordan_U> lickalott: If fsck said that there were errors, those errors may have caused the failure to mount.
[06:26] <lickalott> it just rebooted so i'm gonna go try again.  brb
[06:28] <DF3D2> so no one has any ideas?
[06:28] <BuntuFuntu> Anyone got any good ideas for a replacement plymouth theme to replace the default purple?
[06:28] <pvl1> i currently dont have X running, so would i be able to compile the graphics driver for the newer kernel without rebooting into  recovery under new kernel
[06:30] <Mathias> Ben64: 319 or 319_updates?
[06:30] <Ben64> Mathias: huh?
[06:31] <Mathias> let me rephrase, what's the difference between nvidia-graphics-drivers-319-updates and nvidia-graphics-drivers-319
[06:31] <DF3D2> >.<
[06:31] <lickalott> so it mounted but my lost+found directory is FULLLL of random numbered files and folders
[06:31] <DF3D2> ~_~
[06:32] <lickalott> i may just run the fsck on that entire drive and see if I can get it to boot.
[06:32] <Mathias> DF3D2: last time something similiar happened to me i had bad RAM (probably not your case). maybe gpu drivers?
[06:32] <DF3D2> Mathias, no gpu.. integrated intel (should work automatically) and the ram is fine it came out of one of my other machines
[06:33] <Ben64> DF3D2: laptop?
[06:33] <leptone> can some1 help me resolve these errors?
[06:33] <leptone> http://pastebin.com/EKGTc0pm
[06:33] <DF3D2> Ben64, desktop, i5 3570k z77 motherboard
[06:33] <DF3D2> ubuntu works fine on my new laptop :-\
[06:33] <lickalott> but....i'm on suse right now.  i wonder if I boot back into ubuntu if the files will be normal??
[06:33] <Ben64> usually that happens when you have a weird screen setup going on
[06:33] <DF3D2> Ben64, is hdmi an issue ?
[06:33] <Ben64> lickalott: probably not
[06:33] <Ben64> DF3D2: could be
[06:33] <DF3D2> I see the main menu. such as install, use live-cd
[06:34] <Mathias> DF3D2: tried booting into recovery?
[06:34] <Ben64> might need a custom xorg.conf for it
[06:34] <lickalott> leptone is that the desktop edition?
[06:34] <DF3D2> and then it just shows either a _  or a purple screen, _ if i have nomodeset set
[06:34] <DF3D2> Ben64, im re-downloading the iso even though the md5 matched, if that doesn't work i'll go get a vga screen
[06:34] <leptone> lickalott, its terminal
[06:34] <leptone> what r u asking?
[06:35] <Ben64> DF3D2: so you  have a tv hooked up via hdmi?
[06:35] <DF3D2> Ben64, yes
[06:35] <DF3D2> Ben64, to the integrated z77 hdmi port
[06:35] <Ben64> i'd bet thats the problem.... some tvs give funky info
[06:35] <lickalott> is that the keyring on the desktop release or are you trying to set something else up?
[06:35] <DF3D2> it's an LG, pretty standard usually
[06:35] <DF3D2> and I see the main menu.... i'll try a monitor tho
[06:35] <lickalott> btw:  i saw the macbookpro thing....I don't think we can be friends anymore
[06:35] <faraway> I installed ruby2 via ppa:brightbox/ruby-ng-experimental  that works just fine. Now i have listed 'libruby1.9.1 ruby1.9.1'  as 'kept back' what can i do so that these are ont listed anymore
[06:36] <leptone> ur loss
[06:36] <lickalott> lol
[06:36] <lickalott> leptone do you have update manager or synaptic running?
[06:36] <leptone> lickalott, idk what "keyring on the desktop release" is but i dont think that is what i am doing im trying to install a ppa so i can watch netflix
[06:36] <leptone> lickalott, the former
[06:37] <lickalott> log out and log back in and try again
[06:37] <lickalott> ^serious
[06:37] <leptone> y?
[06:37] <Ben64> just close update manager
[06:37] <leptone> its in the middle of installing 13.04
[06:37] <Ben64> that error message is because something else is using apt
[06:37] <lickalott> or just close it.....lol
[06:37] <lickalott> if that doesn't work try this sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf
[06:37] <lickalott> sudo apt-get update
[06:37] <Ben64> you're trying to install stuff from ppa while installing ubuntu?
[06:38] <Ben64> bad idea
[06:38] <FriendlySeal> does netflix work on linux
[06:38] <leptone> ahh well ill do that after the upgrade is finished
[06:38] <Ben64> !netflix
[06:38] <FriendlySeal> shit
[06:38] <Ben64> watch the language
[06:38] <FriendlySeal> coz silverlight is a pos
[06:39] <leptone> appears to be the same as this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfte5su5DIA
[06:40] <ezra_> I need to get into ubuntu support chat
[06:40] <ezra_> how do I get there...its invite only
[06:40] <michael_> random question guys: is it worth using the ftp program in terminal or should i go ahead and download filezilla?
[06:40] <Ben64> ezra_: you're in it right now
[06:40] <ezra_> whats the point of that...
[06:40] <ezra_> oh
[06:40] <ezra_> <#
[06:40] <ezra_> <3
[06:40] <FloodBot1> ezra_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:41] <kostkon> FriendlySeal, http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/pipelight-020-released-with-multi.html
[06:41] <ezra_> I need help with teamspeak 3 install support. I've looked at videos and read forums but nothing seems to work.
[06:41] <ccmonster> Everytime i try to run this live usb i get to the ubuntu loading splash screen then it goes black
[06:41] <ezra_> It just won't load up for me.
[06:41] <ccmonster> No idea what to do
[06:42] <guest|27551> does anyone know how to turn of VLC cover art fetching?
[06:42] <BuntuFuntu> Is the Ubuntu loading splash screen customizable?
[06:42] <Mathias> \o/, upgrading 13.10 fixed the lightdm/X login bug :D
[06:42] <guest|27551> *turn off
[06:42] <BuntuFuntu> I want to atleast change the default purple to black but I can't because I don't have the necessary permission
[06:43] <ccmonster> Any ideas
[06:43] <BuntuFuntu>  Does anyone know how I can give myself the necessary permission to edit the plymouth file and change the purple to black?
[06:44] <Mathias> guest|27551: settings > show settings = all > playlist > album art policy = manual
[06:44] <buu> BuntuFuntu: sudo
[06:44] <BuntuFuntu> Yes but what command do I use to edit the file I want to edit
[06:44] <Ben64> !plymouth | BuntuFuntu
[06:45] <kostkon> BuntuFuntu, sudo nano path_to_file
[06:45] <guest|27551> thanks Mathias ...
[06:45] <lickalott> well, I think i'm better off that I was this morning...  at least I will have my files, even though I'll have to scroll through 500gb of random stuff...   better than nothing.
[06:45] <lickalott> thanks for listening/helping fellas
[06:45] <lickalott> gnight
[06:46] <ezra_> I just started on linux today...there is so much to learn...but it is so much better than windows...
[06:46] <ezra_> I just wish my teamspeak 3 would work lol
[06:46] <guest|27551> where is "settings"
[06:46] <guest|27551> ?
[06:46] <ezra_> You can get to it in the top right corner i think
[06:47] <ezra_> "System settings" don't quote me on that though I could be wrong lol
[06:47] <DF3D2> Ben64, i think the file system got all screwed up on the usb stick, so it might work now I whiped all partitions etc off it and dd'ed the iso back
[06:47] <DF3D2> if not ill grab a monitor
[06:48] <Mathias> ezra_: teamspeak tends to be a little, uhm, cranky. unfortunately
[06:48] <guest|27551> where is "show settings"??
[06:49] <BuntuFuntu> Ezra_ Your right about the location of how to get to the system settings
[06:49] <BuntuFuntu> Gear icon in top right corner(:
[06:50] <guest|27551> Mathias wrote this: "settings > show settings = all > playlist > album art policy = manual "
[06:50] <guest|27551> how do i get to settings show settings
[06:50] <guest|27551> ??
[06:50] <BuntuFuntu> Guest | 275511:  In top right corner there should be a gear icon. Click on that. Once you do you should see a list of options, including System Settings.
[06:53] <leptone_> so my machine is mid crash like its lagging a application movement on my desktop but everything else works fine. the lag seems to be infinite. what should i do?
[06:54] <hi-five> hi
[06:54] <guest|27551> Is there a firewall that asks you program by program what is trying to access the internet?? i need that
[06:54] <Mathias> guest|27551: bottom left corner
[06:55] <guest|27551> ?
[06:55] <guest|27551> "bottom left corner"?
[06:56] <DF3D2> Ben64, doesn't work with a monitor either, same behavior and the iso has been redownloaded+flashed
[06:56] <kostkon> ezra_, the .run file is an installer. You need to make it executable first
[06:56] <Mathias> guest|27551: bottom left corner of preferences in VLC
[06:56] <guest|27551> it says manual --- so some OTHER program is downloading clip art ... I just DO NOT KNOW WHAT!
[06:57] <guest|27551> this is so annoying
[06:57] <guest|27551> i wish i ocould see what was accessing the net
[06:58] <guest|27551> i want to control my computer's net access
[06:58] <DF3D2> guest|27551, netstat
[06:58] <BuntuFuntu> Guest |27551: Netstat
[06:58] <guest|27551> is that a download?
[06:58] <BuntuFuntu> Guest |27551: It's a terminal command
[06:59] <guest|27551> how do I structure the command
[06:59] <hi-five> BuntuFuntu lol
[07:00] <guest|27551> ok, but what is the program is latent
[07:00] <guest|27551> what if it accesses only when there is something to look for
[07:00] <guest|27551> then goes to sleep
[07:01] <guest|27551> when i run netstat it may not show up???
[07:01] <guest|27551> let's say it sees a file in need of art .. looks it up .. goes to sleep
[07:01] <guest|27551> i wish my computer would ask me ... "VLC is trying to access the internet ... allow/disallow
[07:03] <guest|27551> there is no manual program by program firewall?
[07:03] <guest|27551> "allow firefox" "allow VLC" etc ?
[07:05] <Stanley00> guest|27551: ubuntu has a firewall, called ufw, but  for ease of use, all outgoing connections are allowed
[07:05] <guest|27551> how do i reverse it for unease of use ? lol
[07:05] <Ben64> why would you want your computer harder to use?
[07:06] <mouses> what are the chances that a gmail user emails you and you reply to the mail and the reply gets sent to his spam folder?
[07:06] <mouses> somebody responded late to my email and i fired him and he claims it went to his spam
[07:06] <Ben64> mouses: not really on topic here
[07:06] <guest|27551> something is accessing the internet without my knowledge to download clip art ... i want to know everything that is accessing the internet
[07:06] <mouses> Ben64 whats the off topic ubuntu channel?
[07:07] <Stanley00> guest|27551: then, you just change the rule for ufw :D
[07:07] <Ben64> mouses: #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:07] <mouses> thx
[07:07] <Ben64> guest|27551: how do you know its downloading clip art? and the only things that run are things you allow to run, so don't run things that do what you don't like?
[07:08] <guest|27551> it  IS downloaing clip art
[07:08] <cynicist> guest|27551: http://gufw.org/
[07:08] <guest|27551> i don't know what is doing it
[07:08] <guest|27551> ok i have that program
[07:08] <guest|27551> i got it beore
[07:08] <cynicist> guest|27551: you can enable logging and see what connections are outgoing
[07:08] <ezra_> Great...someone was helping me and then they time out and abandon me...
[07:08] <cynicist> guest|27551: then block what is suspicious
[07:08] <guest|27551> if i disable outgoing ... it won't ask me case by case to allow what is outgoing
[07:09] <guest|27551> it does not label the programs in an easily identifiable manner
[07:09] <Ben64> then you shouldn't run stuff you do not trust......
[07:09] <guest|27551> like VLC, firefox, etc
[07:09] <ezra_> Can anyone help me with running teamspeak 3 on ubuntu 1204 please.
[07:09] <guest|27551> Ben ... you're not helping ...
[07:09] <guest|27551> again, i don't know what is running it
[07:09] <Stanley00> guest|27551: yes, ufw does not work on program name
[07:10] <guest|27551> i know i have experienced this feature and i don't know how to use it
[07:10] <Ben64> guest|27551: then again, how do you know what its downloading if you don't even know what is downloading
[07:10] <k1l_> guest|27551: what do you mean by "clip art"
[07:10] <ezra_> Is there anyone that uses teamspeak 3 that can help another user out?
[07:10] <guest|27551> Ben please don't troll ... it is happening ... there
[07:10] <guest|27551> hope you're convincned
[07:10] <Ben64> ezra_: you'd have to find a ppa or something similar for teamspeak 3. teamspeak 2 is in the repositories
[07:11] <guest|27551> art for audio and video is being searched for and downloaded
[07:11] <Ben64> guest|27551: just tell me how you know that it is downloading "clip art" and do not throw the term "troll" around so readily. thats a great way to get no help
[07:11] <guest|27551> when i am not online it does not search it for files
[07:11] <guest|27551> sorry Ben...
[07:11] <guest|27551> i don't want to cast aspersions
[07:11] <guest|27551> but please understand i am having a real issue
[07:12] <k1l_> guest|27551: its called "scopes" you can turn all of in the privacy settings in system settings
[07:12] <guest|27551> i really don't know what is going on .. i hope you can believe thatr
[07:12] <Ben64> ezra_: use this channel for responses, don't send private messages. "A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge"
[07:12] <ezra_> Sorry about that ben.
[07:12] <k1l_> guest|27551: or you disable every single search scope in the dash itself. every single one you dont want, that is
[07:12] <Ben64> no problem
[07:12] <ezra_> Thank you ben I appreciate it.
[07:12] <Ben64> ezra_: does teamspeak 2 not work for what you want?
[07:13] <ezra_> teamspeak 2 is not compatible with teamspeak 3 servers
[07:13] <ezra_> They are to far out of date to even keep up with a teamspeak 3 server or connection
[07:13] <guest|27551> wow ... k1 i have no idea how to do that
[07:13] <guest|27551> in the dash huh?
[07:13] <guest|27551> you are speaking Latin to me
[07:14] <k1l_> guest|27551: go to system settings and disable all online searches
[07:14] <guest|27551> where? and will it allow me to single out the one's i want ... like firefox
[07:14] <k1l_> that is the full-hammer method. then you can read about what ubuntu offers you with smart scopes etc
[07:14] <cynicist> guest|27551: yeah you are right, I can't see program names in ufw, that is annoying
[07:14] <cynicist> guest|27551: you can use 'sudo lsof -i -P -n' in a terminal to get that though
[07:14] <Ben64> ezra_: what have you tried to get it working?
[07:15] <kostkon> ezra_, what's your problem exactly
[07:15] <k1l_> guest|27551: if this is not what you want, you need to give _alot_ more info and details of your problem
[07:15] <guest|27551> is scopes a download?
[07:15] <ezra_> I downloaded ts3 from the website. Installed it and tried to run the executable and that didn't work. So I ran the .sh through the terminal
[07:15] <ezra_> and that worked for a minute
[07:16] <ezra_> It opened up a window
[07:16] <ezra_> and closed it
[07:16] <k1l_> guest|27551: ok, can you make a screenshot and load it to an image hoster?
[07:16] <Ben64> ezra_: what is the file you downloaded and ran?
[07:16] <guest|27551> don't know how to do that image hoster thing .. and i dont't see how that would help
[07:16] <ezra_> Wow
[07:17] <ezra_> I know why
[07:17] <ezra_> I'm sorry I wasted your time.
[07:17] <Ben64> what was it?
[07:17] <guest|27551> the description says it all .. when online audio files do not appear as a generic thumbnail but the computer is searching for cover art
[07:17] <FriendlySeal> lol
[07:17] <ezra_> I'm an idiot and i'm using 32bit not 64 bit....I installed the wrong version of damn ubuntu
[07:17] <guest|27551> i do not know what is searching for the cover art
[07:17] <ezra_> <---trolled himself
[07:17] <Ben64> hmm
[07:17] <k1l_> guest|27551: where is that? in the audio program?
[07:18] <cynicist> guest|27551: did you try the command I mentioned?
[07:18] <k1l_> guest|27551: we cant see your desktop, so describe it waht you mean.
[07:18] <cynicist> guest|27551: it will show outbound connections along with the program making them, at least while it is doing it
[07:18] <guest|27551> what will happen with that command
[07:18] <guest|27551> will it show it live
[07:18] <k1l_> cynicist: lets wait with that until we know what he really means
[07:19] <guest|27551> or will it show a current snapshot of outbount connections
[07:19] <cynicist> guest|27551: snapshot, for live output you could use something like wireshark
[07:19] <guest|27551> i think this program activates only when something needs to be searched for ... ie album art .. then it goes to sleep
[07:19] <k1l_> guest|27551: where?
[07:19] <guest|27551> i need something to detect what is doing the downloading when it is happening
[07:19] <k1l_> guest|27551: which program are you even talking baout?
[07:20] <guest|27551> i don;'t know what the program is
[07:20] <guest|27551> or what is doing it
[07:20] <k1l_> guest|27551: describe it
[07:20] <cynicist> k1l_: oh I see, you think it may be a lense rather than a media app or whatever, since he is uncertain
[07:20] <guest|27551> that is why i want to take control like Bane said lol
[07:20] <k1l_> cynicist: yes, but he needs to make some more info
[07:21] <k1l_> guest|27551: is it the global search you are talking about?
[07:21] <guest|27551> what is the global seach
[07:21] <k1l_> guest|27551: like that? http://img.netupd8.com/unity-smart-scopes_1.png
[07:21] <guest|27551> i told yo all i know
[07:21] <cynicist> guest|27551: what makes you think it is album art that is being downloaded?
[07:21] <k1l_> guest|27551: come on. dont play dumb
[07:22] <guest|27551> guys ... visual this please
[07:22] <guest|27551> when i am offline all audio files have a generic image
[07:22] <guest|27551> when i am online some program is trying to download cover art for the audio files
[07:22] <k1l_> guest|27551: where does they have that generic images?
[07:22] <Ben64> guest|27551: you really haven't. we're all asking the same thing........ where do you see stuff being downloaded or saying its downloading or seeing a message saying its downloading or about to download or in the process of thinking about downloading?
[07:22] <k1l_> guest|27551: where?
[07:23] <guest|27551> the image icon of the audio files shows that the computer is thinking to find an appropriate image online then it downloads cover art for it
[07:23] <cynicist> guest|27551: take a screenshot of these generic images and share that so people know what you are talking about
[07:23] <k1l_> guest|27551: describe the program you see. is it the global search i just showed you an image in alink? or are you talking about a file-browser? or are you talking about the music-program?
[07:23] <guest|27551> no no
[07:24] <guest|27551> this program is operating on its own
[07:24] <k1l_> guest|27551: ok, please make a screenshot and show it here if you are not able to describe it in a appropriate manner
[07:24] <guest|27551> if i am offline all audio files including recordings have a generic music note as their icon art
[07:24] <guest|27551> when i am online something is searching for icon art based on the audio files name
[07:24] <guest|27551> does that make sense
[07:24] <k1l_> make a screenshot
[07:24] <guest|27551> i have no IDEA what is searching for it
[07:25] <k1l_> show that program to us
[07:25] <guest|27551> i don;t know what program it is
[07:25] <k1l_> make a screenshot
[07:25] <guest|27551> you don't believe me?
[07:25] <guest|27551> my description says it all
[07:26] <Ben64> no, it doesn't. we need to see what you're talking about.
[07:26] <guest|27551> i just want control of what is downloading icon art
[07:26] <guest|27551> i want control of my internet
[07:26] <k1l_> no. you descriptions is way to unspecific
[07:26] <guest|27551> i want my compter to ask me for aurhtorization when ANY program is trying to go online
[07:26] <guest|27551> including firefox
[07:26] <k1l_> make a screenshot
[07:26] <ObrienDave> guest|27551, we can't SEE what you see. help US to help YOU
[07:26] <guest|27551> i don't like it when things are going on behind the scenes and i don't know what
[07:27] <guest|27551> i am telling you what i see
[07:27] <Sebastien> why dont you just make a screenshot ?
[07:27] <Sebastien> it takes a second
[07:27] <Sebastien> and people will help you
[07:27] <Sebastien> telling us is not working for now. so lets try another way
 make a screenshot
[07:27] <ObrienDave> guest|27551, ranting will NOT get you help
[07:27] <Sebastien> ^
[07:27] <guest|27551> i have to find a fresh audio file
[07:28] <guest|27551> i don't know if it will work like that
[07:28] <guest|27551> and then captuer the screen when the computer is showing that it is finding clip art for it
[07:28] <Villiska> Hi, I'm curious if there's any way to remove the upgrade annoyance you get when using Ubuntu 13.04, to upgrade to 13.10?
[07:29] <guest|27551> i want to ask you guys a question
[07:29] <guest|27551> can you imagine this ...
[07:29] <Ben64> Villiska: well support for 13.04 ends in a month
[07:29] <Villiska> I know, but for me it's been the base release so far and I'm new
[07:29] <guest|27551> imagine that all your audio files have a generic music note as their icon art
[07:29] <Villiska> Is it possible to do it though Ben64?
[07:29] <Villiska> best* not base
[07:30] <Jordan_U> guest|27551: Are you talking about the icons in the file manager?
[07:30] <guest|27551> BUT when you are online the icon shows that the computer is thinking and downloads icon art for the files
[07:30] <Ben64> Villiska: not upgrading is not a solution. it will cause more problems down the road
[07:30] <k1l_> guest|27551: make a screenshot
[07:30] <guest|27551> no any audio or video file
[07:30] <Beldar> Villiska, run software-properties-gtk 3rd tab bottom dropdown set to for long term release.
[07:30] <Villiska> 13.10 gave me too many bugs. Bugs that I do not get from 13.04. 12.04 is too out-of-date for me so this is my pick
[07:30] <guest|27551> IF the audio or video file does not have icon art the computer will show a generic icon for it... but when online the comptuer searches for icon art for the files
[07:30] <impradeepy> use 12.04.3lts
[07:31] <Villiska> Wait, what Beldar ? I'm pretty new so I'm not sure what you mean
[07:31] <cynicist> k1l_: don't feed the troll :P
[07:31] <Ben64> Villiska: 12.04 will be updated long after 13.10 is EOL. you need to upgrade or you'll have many more problems
[07:31] <guest|27551> this includes video that i have recorded
[07:31] <Villiska> I'm using 13.04 until it dies. Can I please get help with my question?
[07:31] <mernilio> Hi all! Im banned from "ubuntu-offtopic"  :-(  I even was not so offtopic in my ways.
[07:31] <Ben64> Villiska: 13.04 dies next month, you should upgrade before then
[07:31] <Beldar> Villiska, In the terminal run  software-properties-gtk in the gui that pops up 3rd tab bottom dropdown set to for long term
[07:31] <Jordan_U> mernilio: Please join #ubuntu-ops to discuss bans.
[07:31] <k1l_> mernilio: #ubuntu-ops is the channel to talk about bans.
[07:32] <mernilio> oki thanks Jordan and k11
[07:32] <Beldar> Villiska, Take heed to the end of life warning however.
[07:33] <Villiska> Thank you very much Beldar
[07:33] <Villiska> I know, I'm using 13.04 until the final day I can honestly.
[07:33] <Villiska> Then I'll deal with 13.10's bugs, or use 12.04's oldness until 14.04
[07:34] <Jordan_U> guest|27551: Are you talking about icons shown in the file manager?
[07:34] <ObrienDave> guest|27551, one of your media players are trying to d/l album art. figure out which one and change it.
[07:34] <guest|27551> i tried and i don;t know why it did not work
[07:34] <guest|27551> bottom line: i want control of what is accessing the net
[07:35] <guest|27551> i want to view which programs are attempting access and authorize/decline authroization
[07:35] <guest|27551> is there a way to do that
[07:35] <guest|27551> is there a program for that
[07:35] <Jordan_U> guest|27551: Is there a reason that you are not answering my question?
[07:35] <ObrienDave> guest|27551, obviously you did NOT pick the correct one
[07:35] <guest|27551> do you get it Obrien????
[07:35] <guest|27551> let's say i figure out which program and disable it
[07:35] <guest|27551> that is something i KNOW about and tried to fix
[07:35] <guest|27551> what else is accessing the internet???
[07:36] <DX099> hello all, I've been running Ubuntu 12.04 fine on my laptop when I decided to upgrade to 13.04, but right now, desktop is slow and sluggish as hell
[07:36] <Ben64> if you just posted a screenshot we could tell you what program it is
[07:36] <guest|27551> why should i not control what is accessing the internet?
[07:36] <guest|27551> do you get it?
[07:36] <DX099> can someone tell what could have happened ?
[07:36] <guest|27551> Ben, actually this particular situation is beyond the point, i want control of my internet access
[07:36] <guest|27551> that is the bottom line
[07:36] <ObrienDave> guest|27551, you DON'T get it. you won't help us to help you by following advice and suggestions. good luck with that
[07:37] <guest|27551> one particular program doing a particular annoying thing THAT I KNOW OF is not the point
[07:37] <k1l_> guest|27551: is there a reason you make a drama about it but cant even upload a screenshot?
[07:37] <guest|27551> i described it guys ... take it for what it is ... there is a bigger picture here
[07:37] <guest|27551> i am not trying to be a smar aleck
[07:37] <guest|27551> please have empathy
[07:37] <ObrienDave> ROFLMAO
[07:37] <guest|27551> i think there is even a file called that
[07:38] <guest|27551> lol
[07:38] <DX099> guest|27551, learn AppArmor
[07:38] <ObrienDave> "bigger picture" ROFL
[07:38] <k1l_> guest|27551: you were told by 10 different supporters that your description is not enough. so either you show more details with pictures or names of programs or you stop asking
[07:38] <lljjbb> .
[07:38] <Ben64> guest|27551: you've typed 168 lines here so far, a picture would take much less time and energy on all our parts.
[07:39] <impradeepy> lol
[07:39] <guest|27551> i tried to make a sound recording
[07:39] <guest|27551> and name the recording
[07:39] <guest|27551> and have the computer search for icon art for it
[07:39] <guest|27551> but i can't record
[07:39] <guest|27551> i need to make a new file with no art already
[07:39] <Ben64> no you don't, just give a screenshot
[07:39] <guest|27551> a screenshot of what??
[07:39] <Ben64> anything
[07:40] <k1l_> *sigh*
[07:40] <guest|27551> it is a process that nEEDS A VIDEO for you to see it
[07:40] <ObrienDave> *gives up and saunters away*
[07:40] <guest|27551> i need a video showing a fresh audio file with no icon art
[07:40] <guest|27551> then how the icon for that audio file is not loading while the computer searches online for icon art for it
[07:41] <guest|27551> i do not know which program is running it
[07:41] <Ben64> we don't care about the process, we need to know what you're talking about. give us a screenshot of something that already downloaded the icon, we don't care!
[07:41] <k1l_> guest|27551: there are different possible programs that could download album art. so please make a screenshot of what you are talking about so we can see which program you mean. so we can advice you what to do
[07:41] <guest|27551> i don;'t know which program is doing it
[07:41] <Ben64> SO GIVE A SCREENSHOT OF IT
[07:41] <guest|27551> of what?
[07:41] <Ben64> mother of god
[07:41] <guest|27551> you need a video to see this process
[07:41] <k1l_> yes, that is why we need a screenshot of that program where you see the album art
[07:42] <guest|27551> there is no program i know of
[07:42] <Ben64> where do you see the damn audio files
[07:42] <guest|27551> something is detecting icon art by scanning my files
[07:42] <impradeepy> guest|27551, https://launchpad.net/ go there and post your problem in details everyhting
[07:42] <Ben64> take a damn screenshot of the damn thing so we can stop this damn conversation already
[07:42] <guest|27551> scanning my files on its own and downloaind icon art for it
[07:42] <ObrienDave> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO HELP YOU WITH!!!! GEEZ LOUISE!!!
[07:42] <cynicist> he's trolling, stop feeding him
[07:42] <guest|27551> i am not trolling
[07:42] <guest|27551> how is this trolling
[07:42] <cynicist> then take a screenshot of the situation and post it
[07:43] <ObrienDave> yep, good luck with that, troll
[07:43] <Beldar> two ops and no quiets
[07:43] <cynicist> video is unnecessary
[07:43] <guest|27551> let's say we fix this
[07:43] <Ben64> no. stop.
[07:43] <cynicist> people don't need to see the icons change, they need to know which icons you are actually talking about
[07:43] <Ben64> give a screenshot
[07:43] <anonymous> hi~
[07:43] <Ben64> no more talking
[07:43] <guest|27551> we can detect the program that is automatically downloaind icon art....
[07:43] <cynicist> so until you post a screenshot, you are trolling
[07:43] <guest|27551> but what else is going on that is behind the scenes
[07:43] <Jordan_U> Please everyone calm down. The all caps, swearing and accusations are trolling are not at all productive.
[07:43] <Ben64> yeah, i'm done with you until you post a picture
[07:43] <guest|27551> that is why i would like to kjnow which programs are accessing intenret
[07:44] <guest|27551> i want to control which programs are accessing internet
[07:44] <cynicist> Jordan_U: it's more productive than continuing a conversation with someone who ignores all requests for clarification of the issue and continues repeating his statements over and over again
[07:44] <guest|27551> only then i can see what is trying to access teh internet to download icon art and stop it
[07:44] <Jordan_U> guest|27551: You can use netstat to list processes with open network connections.
[07:44] <impradeepy> guest|27551, use shutter and capture and post it on youtube happy now?will see ok  now please stop
[07:54] <insidek> Helo ^^
[07:55] <impradeepy> insidek:hi
[08:03] <jgcampbell300> is anyone here running xen hyporvisor ?
[08:04] <jgcampbell300> !xen
[08:04] <starnix> Hello People.
[08:08] <Guest71342> After installing Kernel 3.12 to replace Ubuntu 13.10 kernel...it corrected the Kernel Panic, but now...lol Ubuntu will not resume correctly from Suspend
[08:12] <helmut_> hi
[08:24] <MediaMis_> I keep reseting the vhosts root directory but for some reason it doesn't recognize the directory.
[08:25] <MediaMis_> Seems simple enough.
[08:39] <Shadowandlight> why cant i browse this directory in filezilla? http://i.imgur.com/qCe2Cz0.png
[08:39] <Shadowandlight> i can browse it inside terminal no problem
[08:40] <Shadowandlight> http://i.imgur.com/apt9cIF.png the rest showup
[08:40] <olgac> #ubuntutr
[08:41] <somsip> Shadowandlight: its a file, not a directory
[08:41] <Shadowandlight> http://i.imgur.com/qID2abY.png
[08:41] <Shadowandlight> no its a directory
[08:41] <somsip> Shadowandlight: phpbb in http://i.imgur.com/qCe2Cz0.png is a file
[08:42] <Shadowandlight> how can it be a file in FTP and a directory in terminal?
[08:42] <Gentoon> Hi, English learned not much good.
[08:42] <DarkRyoushii> hey I'm running xubuntu but this is fairly generic question, how do I get thrown into CLI mode at boot rather than GUI/window manager?
[08:42] <Gentoon> Please tell me file for peen park?
[08:42] <ikonia> peen park ?
[08:42] <Gentoon> error for peen park, edit vim?
[08:42] <DarkRyoushii> and would my third party AMD drivers still start in this mode?
[08:42] <ikonia> DarkRyoushii: disable X11/login manager via upstart
[08:42] <Shadowandlight> http://i.imgur.com/Kqj3Dcv.png
[08:42] <DarkRyoushii> ikonia: would I still get the benefit of AMD drivers loading?
[08:43] <ikonia> DarkRyoushii: you're not using X11 - why do you want "amd drivers"?
[08:43] <Ben64> Gentoon: what is your native language? and are you on gentoo?
[08:43] <Gentoon> I finsd how say.. child organs.. peen park file?
[08:43] <DarkRyoushii> ikonia: cryptocurrency mining
[08:43] <ikonia> DarkRyoushii: why are you doing this ?
[08:43] <ikonia> DarkRyoushii: it should load the kernel modules, just not the X11 modules
[08:43] <Gentoon> I speak Laud
[08:43] <DarkRyoushii> I'm 90% sure it doesn't need the x11 modules
[08:43] <ikonia> Gentoon: what is your native language
[08:44] <DarkRyoushii> so thank you very much for that you told me exactly the thing to google to get furhter assistance :)
[08:44] <Gentoon> so Child organs, in peen park file.. for vim edit?
[08:44] <ikonia> DarkRyoushii: I can't remember what window/login manager the xubuntu install uses so I can't give you the exact syntax to disable it, sorry
[08:44] <Ben64> pretty sure its a troll ikonia... ip location is oregon, usa, plus the nick containing Gentoo and ident is "Sarge"
[08:44] <DarkRyoushii> ikonia: if it helps, it has something to do with lightdm
[08:45] <DarkRyoushii> ikonia: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16371/how-do-i-disable-x-at-boot-time-so-that-the-system-boots-in-text-mode
[08:45] <ikonia> Ben64: yes, I've also come to that conclusion,
[08:45] <DarkRyoushii> this looks like it should work though as long as I'm using GRUB - which I am
[08:45] <ikonia> DarkRyoushii: ah, it uses lightdm now ?
[08:45] <Gentoon> ikonia: SPEAK Xhosa?
[08:48] <DarkRyoushii> ikonia: apparently, but again my link should probably work :)
[08:48] <DarkRyoushii> so I'll try that and report back :)
[08:50] <Wiz_KeeD> hello guys
[08:51] <Wiz_KeeD> I have a question, is there a difference between partitioning with grub first and then setting the filesystem type in the installer (Ext4 journal item etc) and setting it directly from there?
[08:52] <Ben64> grub doesn't partition, you mean gparted? it doesn't matter if you partition with gparted or the installer, the effect is the same.
[08:59] <stephen_rkc> Hi There
[08:59] <Rory> Hello stephen_rkc
[09:00] <stephen_rkc> how do I create partition called sdb if I have only drive called sda
[09:00] <stephen_rkc> ?
[09:00] <gordonjcp> stephen_rkc: you don't
[09:00] <Rory> stephen_rkc: DRIVES are called /dev/sda, /dev/sdb etc
[09:00] <Rory> stephen_rkc: partitions on /dev/sda are called /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2 etc
[09:00] <stephen_rkc> okay
[09:01] <Rory> stephen_rkc: Why do you ask?
[09:01] <gordonjcp> y'know, it would have made more sense to define drives as /dev/sdx and partitions as /dev/sdx/1
[09:01] <Rory> stephen_rkc: I'm worried you're following some guide blindly or something, that's why I'm asking
[09:01] <Rory> gordonjcp: No it wouldn't because of how UNIX files and directories work
[09:02] <Rory> gordonjcp: /dev/sda needs to be a "file"
[09:02] <impradeepy> stephan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning%20issues?action=show&redirect=Partitioning
[09:02] <stephen_rkc> I'm trying to create OpenStack Documentation  to Configure a Block Storage Service node
[09:02] <stephen_rkc> I need a drive called sdb for it
[09:02] <gbear14275> Hey guys I'm in a real pickle.  Tried to enable TRIM support for my SSD by following this page (http://askubuntu.com/questions/18903/how-to-enable-trim) and now I'm getting a "ALERT! /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root does not exist.  Dropping to a shell!"
[09:02] <Rory> stephen_rkc: So you need two physical hard drives
[09:02] <stephen_rkc> but I have created vm with sda
[09:02] <Rory> !pm > astonBoy
[09:03] <somsip> stephen_rkc: so create a new virtual drive and mount as sdb
[09:03] <gbear14275> I'm not familiar with busybox enough to know what I'm doing and could use some help before I mess it up further...
[09:03] <Wiz_KeeD> Rory, you will not believe it brother i'm running ubuntu without any issues in dual boot :O
[09:04] <ObrienDave> !yay | Wiz_KeeD
[09:04] <Wiz_KeeD> haha
[09:04] <gbear14275> oops... meant I followed these steps: http://askubuntu.com/questions/263543/fstrim-doesnt-work
[09:04] <Wiz_KeeD> if it waren't for the sleek new 13.10
[09:04] <Wiz_KeeD> I wouldn't be chatting here now from my notebook
[09:04] <varange> hi all. I have a problem with Unity. WHen the PC starts, the login screen appears as per normal. WHen I log in only the wallpaper appears. Nothing else. Not Ctrl-Alt=T either. I follwed all the instructions re. compiz and unity. No better
[09:04] <gordonjcp> Rory: you're right
[09:05] <varange> then created a new user account, logged in there, and voila!, same problem
[09:05] <varange> please help me if you know how to reset all defaults
[09:05] <Rory> varange: Is this on a fresh install? What version?
[09:05] <gbear14275> sda1_crypt UUID= none luks,discard  <== instructions but I think I misplaced my flag by putting it here 'sda1_crypt UUID= none,discard luks'
[09:05] <gordonjcp> Rory: but you could have something like /dev/sdx/full, /dev/sdx/part0, /dev/sdx/part<label>
[09:05] <Rory> varange: Has it always done this?
[09:05] <gordonjcp> Rory: I guess I've just reinvented BSD disklabels, badly
[09:05] <gbear14275> anyway I can recover this from the boot shell?
[09:06] <Rory> gordonjcp: You could, but we don't, and the current system is intuitive enough.
[09:06] <varange> Rory, 13,04. and no
[09:06] <Rory> varange: What happened in between it working, and it not working?
[09:06] <varange> Rory, all upgrades have been done
[09:07] <varange> Rory, the user, my sister, said she closed the lid overnight
[09:07] <varange> Rory, as she normally does
[09:08] <impradeepy> varange, can you show me the output of cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[09:08] <Rory> varange: On the login screen, is there an option to log into the Unity 2D session using the session menu?
[09:08] <varange> impradeepy, Rory one moment pls
[09:08] <varange> will get the info
[09:09] <impradeepy> varange, take your time
[09:09] <varange> ty
[09:10] <Rory> varange: The best way to share the output of commands from a console is with the "pastebinit" application: sudo apt-get install pastebinit, and then "pastebinit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf"
[09:10] <varange> thx rory
[09:10] <anton02> anybody up for some botnet bingo? person with the most botnets wins! http://i.4cdn.org/g/src/1386731623272.png
[09:11] <Rory> anton02: Not here
[09:11] <stephen_rkc> @rory: I'm trying to configure a Block Storage Service node, do I need a seperate drive for that?
[09:11] <Rory> stephen_rkc: I don't know about that, sorry
[09:12] <stephen_rkc> Thanks :)
[09:13] <impradeepy> ActionParsnip, hi boss what's up?
[09:32] <mezo_> Hi guys, my /var partition is running out of space, is there any possibility to extend it without another live linux? Current schema is something like this: http://i.imgur.com/pSykEUs.png
[09:33] <ikonia> mezo_: you've got no space free either side of it
[09:33] <ikonia> mezo_: it would take a lot of effort to resize it
[09:34] <ikonia> mezo_: /var should not be using that much data, what's eating the space ?
[09:34] <mezo_> ikonia: Ye I know thats the problem... Is it possible to move it to a free space?
[09:34] <mezo_> Wait I'll screenshot in a sec
[09:34] <Rory> mezo_: It's possible downloaded .deb packages from apt archives are taking up a lot of space, try "sudo apt-get clean"
[09:34] <ikonia> mezo_: no, as you only have 1mb of unallocated space
[09:34] <Rory> ikonia: there's a big 100gb block in the middle
[09:35] <ikonia> mezo_: you also appear to have a 7GB swap partition, you may want to remove that
[09:35] <mezo_> Why should I remove that?
[09:35] <ikonia> Rory: yeah, but the effort of using that is going to be a problem, as he's going to have to make an extended partition first
[09:35] <MickS>  /var can contain lots of space. Just think about mysql which has /var/lib/mysql as default data location. Your logfiles which are in /var/log, your mail, which is in /var/spool/mail, etc.
[09:35] <ikonia> thats why I said "look at what's eating the space"
[09:35] <Rory> mezo_: If you remove the swap and recreate it after your /home partition, you can expand /var by 7GiB
[09:36] <ikonia> you're not going to do this on the fly though, you'll need to use a livecd to do this cleanly
[09:36] <mezo_> How safe is it to just remove swap? Any hints where should I starT?
[09:36] <mezo_> oh I'll need live linux :(
[09:36] <mezo_> damn
[09:36] <Rory> mezo_: Boot from a LiveCD and open gparted
[09:36] <ikonia> mezo_: swapoff so it's not in use,
[09:36] <MickS> a simple trick might be to create a new partition with that unallocated space you have and mount it on /var/lib or /var/log, or whichever subfolder in /var uses the most space right now (you can check with du -s /var/*)
[09:36] <mezo_> thanks, will try to clear it first
[09:38] <konadr> im having some issues when trying to pxeboot and kickstart 12.04.3, it doesn't find the CD-ROM to install from, despite the install section of my kickstart file pointing to a http source
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> konadr: do you have the CD referenced in the sources.list file etc?
[09:41] <konadr> I'm not sure what you mean ActionParsnip, do you mean on the server? The instalation continues fine if I mount the cdrom on the kickstart client system (this is a vmware box sorry I forgot to mention)
[09:42] <konadr> here is the top of my kickstart file ActionParsnip http://www.pastebin.ca/2496185
[09:50] <HoloIRCUser> .
[09:51] <Mongo44> What would the command be for uninstalling VBox? I installed the outdated one on the software center and I want to start over.
[09:52] <robierob> sudo apt-get uninstall vbox
[09:52] <robierob> i think
[09:52] <limace255> hi all; I want to setup a 12.04 ubuntu server on a usb key, with a ks.cfg.For the moment, I've got something quite right, but not stable, and fat.What are the necessary files to do such a thing ?
[09:52] <Mongo44> I'll try it.
[09:53] <robierob> you will also need to try a cleaning as well
[09:54] <Mongo44> That was invalid.
[09:54] <robierob> or a sudo autoremove vbox
[09:54] <robierob> sudo autoremove (name of program installed
[09:56] <robierob> always always google fu//// " how do i remove a program in linux"
[09:58] <Mongo44> It will work I just don't have the right name for Virtual Box
[09:58] <robierob> yup... got to go to the program itself to find that out.
[09:58] <jmgk> hi robierob
[09:58] <jmgk> impradeepy: hey
[09:58] <robierob> in the about section
[09:58] <robierob> hey
[09:58] <impradeepy> hi
[09:59] <robierob> sup yo?
[09:59] <robierob> lol
[09:59] <impradeepy> Mongo44, open software centre -type VirtualBox then remove it
[09:59] <robierob> i think i pooped myself
[10:00] <robierob> yup software center as well
[10:01] <varange> hi rory. still there?
[10:02] <Rory> Yes but about to go to a 10 min meeting
[10:02] <varange> Rory, ok
[10:02] <varange> I have pastebinit and all the rest now
[10:02] <varange> please check for me when you get back from the meeting
[10:03] <Rory> Paste it now so someone else can see too, also summarise your problem again
[10:04] <varange> rory ok thanks
[10:13] <Rory> OK I'm back varange where is the paste??
[10:15] <prakash_> how can i install teamviewer in ubuntu 13.04?
[10:16] <jmgk> hi prakash_
[10:16] <mezo_> Hi, I just found that I have extra large directory "/var/lib/docker", and would like to mount new partition I just created on this location, without loosing any data -> moving data from current to new partition
[10:16] <mezo_> is this possible?
[10:16] <[Gentoo]> mezo_: no
[10:17] <[Gentoo]> dont think so
[10:17] <mezo_> [Gentoo]: What if I move files somewhere else temporary, then I mount partition, move files back. Everything should be normal I guess?
[10:17] <[Gentoo]> mount the partition somewhere else, move the data to it
[10:17] <[Gentoo]> then mount it there
[10:17] <[Gentoo]> yeah
[10:18] <mezo_> Ok so thats basically what I thought
[10:18] <mezo_> thansk
[10:19] <impradeepy> prakash_, type apt-cache show teamviewer and if its available in the official repo then install it by using sudo apt-get install teamviewer
[10:19] <impradeepy> !teamviewer
[10:20] <Rory> !info teamviewer
[10:21] <Rory> prakash_: I googled "teamviewer ubuntu" and this was the second link http://www.teamviewer.com/en/help/363-How-do-I-install-TeamViewer-on-my-Linux-distribution.aspx
[10:21] <impradeepy> rory:thanks for the correct syntax
[10:21] <Rory> no impradeepy !teamviewer would recall a factoid called teamviewer. !info teamviewer looks for a package called teamviewer in the latest Ubuntu
[10:22] <adac> ince with the network manager there are problems to add a vpn connection, how can I simply start my vpn connection every time the network is connected?
[10:22] <Rory> impradeepy: It's possible there was a teamviewer factoid, although you can test by /msg ubottu factoid
[10:22] <impradeepy> rory: ok, i am using 12.04.3 when i search teamviwer using apt-cache for me it did find thats why :)
[10:23] <impradeepy> rory:thankyou
[10:24] <Rory> impradeepy: It doesn't for me, do you have a third-party repo or already installed teamviewer from a deb?
[10:25] <impradeepy> rory:already installed .deb from teamviewer site
[10:26] <Rory> that will be why it shows in apt-cache for you then
[10:27] <impradeepy> rory:yes, have a look http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555334/
[10:29] <jnhghy> how can I copy html files from a website? so I can open them locally?(even I don't have images?)
[10:29] <[Gentoo]> jnhghy: save page as
[10:29] <jnhghy> [Gentoo]: too many pages, how can I do it recursevely?
[10:29] <[Gentoo]> dont know
[10:30] <somsip> jnhghy: use wget
[10:30] <jnhghy> somsip: will wget download a website tree? or do I need to use it in a script
[10:30] <jnhghy> ?
[10:30] <[Gentoo]> theres a program called httrack also
[10:30] <[Gentoo]> i found on google
[10:30] <somsip> jnhghy: man wget and read about recursive downloads
[10:30] <[Gentoo]> but wget would be better of course
[10:56] <nickfox> i was getting the following error: "Invalid argument" setting key "net.ipv4.ip_local_port_range" from this line in sysctl.conf
[10:56] <nickfox> net.ipv4.ip_local_port_range = 16384 65536
[10:56] <nickfox> when i comment out the line, the error goes away but i'm not sure if i should comment it out. is it ok?
[10:57] <KLVTZ> Ah almost 3am
[10:57] <KLVTZ> I can feel the cold from my window
[10:58] <Layke> What's the default file browser called in ubuntu?
[10:58] <DJones> Layke: Nautilus
[10:58] <Layke> Thanks. :)
[10:59] <Layke> I was sure that I used to have a right click open terminal. So just googling what that package was.
[10:59] <KLVTZ> that moment when you realize it's nautilus
[10:59] <KLVTZ> i almost jumped a bridge for saying explorer
[11:00] <Layke> sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[11:00] <Layke> Got it :)
[11:01] <Layke> I've usually switched from Unity immediately and used KDE. Wich I think comes with Dolphin. I could never get used to unity lack of a taskbar. But I installed xfce4 whcih seems to help
[11:01] <Layke> I've noticed though, that I get a lot of mouse lag though..
[11:01] <Layke> I didn't use to get this before I reformatted.. not sure what could be the reason. Same hardware etc.. not sure if it's just increased requirements using unity?
[11:03] <Layke> Maybe it's compiz?
[11:04] <xyzwhatever> help pcmanfm is broke, can I just install another file manager which one is also nice and leightweight?
[11:06] <iszak> If I'm creating a mirror of apt repositories do I need -security + -updates or just the main release?
[11:08] <Xat`> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and lshell to restrict users
[11:09] <Xat`> I'm not able to use SSH with a lshell user, the session is closed automatically. No problem using lshell without SSH
[11:10] <mateusz> lol
[11:12] <lesshaste> how do you turn the out of memory killer on? Currently when I write code that uses too much RAM it swaps so badly I can only restart the whole computer
[11:16] <Walex> lesshaste: the OOM kills when both swap and RAM are full, not just RAM.
[11:17] <Walex> lesshaste: just disable the swap file.
[11:17] <Walex> lesshaste: or else run your stuff with a max memory limit using 'ulimit'
[11:18] <lesshaste> Walex, strangely I get
[11:18] <lesshaste> cat /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_ratio
[11:18] <lesshaste> 50
[11:18] <lesshaste> and I have 8GB of RAM and 8GB of swap
[11:18] <lesshaste> so why does destroy my system when I use too much ram?
[11:19] <Walex> lesshaste: that's how it is supposed to work. Unfortunately the Linux swap code is awefully bad, for various reasons.
[11:20] <lesshaste> Walex, ah... what I am doing is really basic. I am just writing python code and sometimes by accident it writes to a list that is too large
[11:20] <Walex> lesshaste: 'ulimit' is the right way to go then...
[11:21] <lesshaste> Walex, ok thanks.. how do you use that properly?
[11:21] <lesshaste> Walex, maybe I should report a kernel bug too
[11:21] <Walex> lesshaste: something like (ulimit -v $MAX; $COMMAND)
[11:22] <user_> guys how can i identify which Wireless protocol version i use (b,g,n) ?
[11:22] <user_> in ubuntu
[11:22] <lesshaste> Walex, oops... man ulimit
[11:22] <lesshaste> Killed
[11:22] <lesshaste> #
[11:22] <lesshaste> Walex, how do I get out of that?
[11:23] <lesshaste> Walex, looks like I set ulimit too low :)
[11:23] <Walex> lesshaste: 'man bash' and search for 'ulimit'
[11:23] <Walex> lesshaste: ulimit -v max
[11:23] <lesshaste> Walex, I think I have to kill that terminal  :(
[11:23] <Walex> ulimit -0v max
[11:23] <user_> anybody?
[11:23] <Walex> lesshaste: ulimit -v 0
[11:24] <Walex> user_: guaranteed response times of under 1 minute on IRC are only available to Platinum Card Members :-)
[11:24] <lesshaste> Walex, back :)
[11:24] <user_> lol
[11:24] <user_> Walex, ok!
[11:25] <Walex> user_: 'iwconfig' should tell you BTW
[11:25] <lesshaste> Walex, what units is ulimit in? The man page doesn't seem to say
[11:25] <lesshaste> ah Values are in 1024-byte increments
[11:27] <jennie> Please help me installing this driver,  http://goo.gl/3PLDGZ I am getting this error  http://pastebin.com/trgGzisW
[11:27] <gccster> Walex, i'm user_ , Walex, tried iwconfig it gives a lot of info but not current protocol used
[11:27] <AndreasL> Hey guys. I'm looking for a very simplistic, lightweight but up-to-date window manager that I can run various media center applications on top of. Any suggestions?
[11:28] <ikonia> AndreasL: you're not going to find much better than lubuntu
[11:28] <Walex> gccster: the frequency should tell you...
[11:28] <gccster> 2.437ghz but how is this connect to protocol version?
[11:29] <ActionPa1snip> AndreasL: openbox :)
[11:29] <ObrienDave> gccster, each protocol has their own frequency
[11:29] <AndreasL> ikonia, so lwm? ActionPa1snip: will check out, thanks
[11:29] <ObrienDave> gccster, *range of frequencies
[11:30] <ikonia> AndreasL: if you can just install the lubuntu distribtuion, you'll find a pretty light and fully supported product out of the box, ready to go
[11:30] <Walex> jennie: there are some typos in your commands... Also the instructions are for pre-12.04 versions of Ubuntu which did not have multiarch.
[11:30] <AndreasL> ikonia, I'm starting out with a completely minimal install anyway... I don't actually need a desktop environment :)
[11:31] <Walex> jennie: the translated page seem to have a *a lot* of typos, presumably because of the translation.
[11:31] <ActionPa1snip> AndreasL: I dont use a DE either, bit of a waste imho
[11:31] <ObrienDave> gccster, by your frequency, I can tell you that you are on "g" channel 6
[11:32] <jennie> Walex: I tried a lot to install it but it didnt worked , then I found that link which someone mentioned so I thought to give it a try
[11:32] <cfhowlett> AndreasL, xfce4
[11:32] <Walex> jennie: which printer have you got? What is your native language?
[11:33] <ActionPa1snip> cfhowlett: looking for a WM, not a DE :)
[11:33] <fikri_shb> asalamualaiku,
[11:33] <jennie> I have canonlbp2900b, I saw that link in ubuntu forums in post, my native is not english
[11:33] <peho> hi
[11:33] <fikri_shb> hi
[11:33] <gccster> ObrienDave, if you have a table  you are looking the frequencies i would be very thankful to send me the url, Because i'm searching this cause of very slow resolve speed when im on wifi
[11:33] <peho> I want to send console message to user
[11:33] <ActionPa1snip> jennie: did you check the canon site for support? They make debs for some of their products
[11:33] <gccster> ObrienDave, i've changed dns to google e.t.c. and nothing
[11:34] <AndreasL> cfhowlett: good suggestion as well, thanks
[11:34] <ActionPa1snip> peho: use wall, or if you run:  export DISPLAY=0:0; notify send "test"     they will see it on the screen :)
[11:34] <peho> I used: write [user] [tty]
[11:34] <ObrienDave> gccster, i only know this because i'm on the same frequency ;P
[11:34] <ActionPa1snip> peho: might be notify-send
[11:34] <gccster> alright
[11:35] <cfhowlett> ActionPa1snip, d'oh!
[11:35] <jennie> ActionPa1snip: they have provided the guide to install I tried with that guide but it is not printing
[11:35] <ActionPa1snip> cfhowlett: got yo back bro
[11:35] <ActionPa1snip> jennie: did you have the printer setup, then add the debs?
[11:37] <ActionPa1snip> jennie: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:37] <jennie> ActionPa1snip: these are the instructions from the printer installation guide http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555600/ , and they provide debs for installation.
[11:37] <Wiz_KeeD> I cannot install ia32-libs in ubuntu 13.10 :((
[11:37] <jennie> ActionPa1snip: output is cat /etc/issue
[11:38] <jennie> Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[11:38] <peho> ActionPa1snip: I want to send command in terminal
[11:38] <freshmint> hey is there a bash command available for doing the print to file job of cups?
[11:38] <peho> but I get 'write: you have write permission turned off.'
[11:39] <jennie> Wiz_KeeD: I also need to install that ia32-libs
[11:39] <peho> mesg command return
[11:39] <peho> is y
[11:39] <peho> how can I change permission
[11:39] <Wiz_KeeD> helps? :(
[11:42] <DasEi> freshmint: you want to write to a file from comand-line ?
[11:42] <ObrienDave> gccster, after looking, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WLAN_channels, WLAN protocols share frequencies. my apologies for the error
[11:42] <jennie> Wiz_KeeD: try this www.mirrorservice.org/sites/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu//pool/universe/i/ia32-libs/ia32-libs_20090808ubuntu26_amd64.deb
[11:42] <Wiz_KeeD> jennie, did it work for yo?
[11:43] <ObrienDave> gccster, you can tell b,g,n by the connection speed. "b" is 11Mbps, "g" is 54Mbps
[11:43] <impradeepy> !info ia32-libs
[11:43] <jennie> Wiz_KeeD: I do not know I haven't installed it yet i need to install other stuff before it
[11:44] <freshmint> DasEi, see normally you use lp FILENAME for printing with a printer. i like to do a similiar command like lp FILENAME OUTPUT.pdf
[11:44] <freshmint> essentially it should do the same as if i select the print to file printer in the cups dialog
[11:44] <KLVTZ> hehe freshmint, i like that name
[11:44] <Wiz_KeeD> great, I knew something had to happen
[11:44] <KLVTZ> It might go on my list next to Electric Lettuce.
[11:44] <Wiz_KeeD> but what happens to applications I must install
[11:44] <Wiz_KeeD> :(
[11:46] <freshmint> im trying to set it up for a scripted bash job
[11:47] <robsco> Hey all, I asked in #lubuntu but haven't gotten a response. Maybe someone here can help?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2193080
[11:47] <impradeepy> ObrienDave, are you planning to buy  an adapter?
[11:48] <ActionPa1snip> jennie: and the output of:  uname -a
[11:48] <Walex> jennie: I had a look at the package with the Canon drivers and they include both the 32 bit and 64 bit versions of the drivers and they seem to "just work" on my ULKTS12.04 system
[11:48] <Walex> jennie: so I think that the 'ia32-libs' or the multiarch equivalent are not at all necessary.
[11:49] <jennie> Walex: I am trying to make it work since yesterday but no luck in printing though the printer is getting installed
[11:49] <jennie> uname -a
[11:49] <jennie> Linux sun-desktop 3.11.0-12-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 9 16:20:46 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:49] <Walex> robsco: that is very unlikely to be easy to fix.
[11:50] <Walex> robsco: just don't use spaces in directory names or file names ever.
[11:50] <robsco> Walex, do you think the issue is with pcmanfm?
[11:51] <Walex> robsco: yes.,
[11:51] <ObrienDave> impradeepy, nope, my lappy is embedded. tnx 4 asking
[11:51] <DasEi> freshmint: so you want to create a pdf from a file then; https://www.ehow.com/how_7380088_convert-pdf-ubuntu.html
[11:51] <robsco> I'm reasonably comfortable poking around the code and compiling
[11:51] <robsco> I'll have a look
[11:52] <robsco> I was hoping for a config file edit
[11:52] <Walex> robsco: most likely the forking off of 'lxterminal' happens in a 'system' call instead of properly by doing a 'fork', 'chdir' and then 'execve',
[11:52] <konadr> hi all, my pxeboot box keeps requesting a cdrom device, how do I specify it uses http for the source rather than having to mount an iso image (this is an esx box). There seems to be lots of guides but for different distros and I can't find any solid guide for ubuntu with http source for the pxeboot
[11:52] <impradeepy> ObrienDave, ok
[11:53] <Rory> konadr: Can you please pastebin yourexisting config? http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:53] <ObrienDave> konadr, open "software and sources" in other, uncheck cdrom
[11:53] <DasEi> freshmint: another way use OO to open a file, then export as pdf
[11:55] <konadr> Im just grabbing that now Rory, ObrienDave, it's just kickstarting a fresh VM so I don't have any options, do you mean in the software that generates kickstart files?
[11:56] <konadr> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555675/
[11:56] <ObrienDave> konadr, don't have a clue about kickstart, sorry
[11:57] <DF3D2> I have a problem that has me stumped. I have a machine I just moved to a new case. I cannot get the ubuntu installer to go past the main menu I just get a blank screen. I have checked the md5 of the downloaded .iso, the md5 of the usb stick. Remade the USB stick. Tried the usb stick in another machine ( it works fine) The machine that cannot go very far in the ubuntu installer runs windows just fine.... Any ideas? Oh I've tried no mode
[11:57] <DF3D2>  set also.
[11:57] <freshmint> DasEi, hmm.. i want something like this. COMMAND INPUT.pdf OPTIONS OUTPUT.pdf
[11:58] <ActionPa1snip> DF3D2: what GPU do you use?
[11:58] <cfhowlett> DF3D2, all you changed was the outer case?  same internals?
[11:58] <DF3D2> ActionPa1snip, none, intel integrated in to the z77 chipset so hd4000 I think?
[11:59] <DF3D2> cfhowlett, correct sir. well, I did change the processor from an i7 to an i5 in this machine but that's plug and play and it works fine in windows
[11:59] <Walex> jennie: how is printer install going?
[11:59] <DF3D2> since it was the same mobo i used the hd with windows to test i'm running prime95 now seems to have no hardware issues at all
[11:59] <ActionPa1snip> DF3D2: every system has a GPU, it will not POST if it does not
[11:59] <jennie> Walex: not good
[11:59] <DF3D2> ActionPa1snip, right it uses the integrated intel hd4000
[11:59] <ActionPa1snip> DF3D2: the Intel GPU may be integrated into the CPU but it is still a GPU
[11:59] <DF3D2> ActionPa1snip, it's a z77 chipset
[12:00] <ActionPa1snip> DF3D2: so why say 'none' when it obviously has one?
[12:00] <iszak> If I'm creating a mirror of apt repositories do I need -security + -updates or just the main release?
[12:00] <Walex> jennie: if you do 'ps axu | grep ccpd' does it list the 'ccpd' daemon process?
[12:00] <DF3D2> ActionPa1snip, i'm sorry dude... i'm a hardcore gamer so a "gpu" to me is an add-on card. Sorry for any inconvenience
[12:00] <DF3D2> anyway the integrated video works perfectly fine in windows
[12:01] <jennie> walex- > http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555687/
[12:01] <ActionPa1snip> DF3D2: GPU is a (g)raphical (p)rocessing (u)nit, so if it is inbuilt or in a separate card it doesn't matter. It is a GPU
[12:01] <ActionPa1snip> DF3D2: have you tried the boot option: nomodeset
[12:01] <DF3D2> ActionPa1snip, I really do know that man. I'm quite familiar with computers. I made a mistake in speaking.
[12:01] <DF3D2> ActionPa1snip, yes I have, same basic result the installer never goes past the main menu.
[12:01] <Walex> jennie: that looks good, means that the main part of the "driver" is running.
[12:01] <Walex> jennie: what does 'sudo ccpdadmin' say?
[12:02] <jennie> Walex: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555692/
[12:02] <ActionPa1snip> DF3D2: try intel.nomodeset=1
[12:02] <Walex> jennie: that looks *almost* good.
[12:03] <Walex> jennie: obviously none of those names is validly defined.
[12:03] <Walex> jennie: so please open in a browser http://localhost:631/ and delete all those not-quite-right printer-definitions.
[12:05] <jennie>   I opened it but under 'printers' tab it is showing only one printer
[12:06] <Walex> jennie: what does 'sudo cat /etc/cups/printers.conf' is?
[12:06] <jennie> sudo cat /etc/cups/printers.conf
[12:06] <jennie> # Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.7rc1
[12:06] <jennie> # Written by cupsd
[12:06] <jennie> # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE WHEN CUPSD IS RUNNING
[12:07] <FloodBot1> jennie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:07] <DasEi> freshmint: I still to get it, pdf to pdf ??
[12:08] <DF3D2> ActionPa1snip, it's complaining about ata resets, these hd's are good though I just had them in another ubuntu machine. I'll try booting without them plugged in i guess
[12:08] <Walex> jennie: BTW have you downloaded the file 'Linux_CAPT_PrinterDriver_V260_??_EN.tar.gz' from the Canon website?
[12:08] <DF3D2> ActionPa1snip, maybe because they are formatted zfs raidz1 it is causing some error?
[12:09] <jennie> yes Walex
[12:09] <Walex> DF3D2: ATA/SATA resets are never good news. It is a hw error. It could be insufficient power or bad cables.
[12:09] <Walex> jennie: have you done 'tar xzf Linux_CAPT_PrinterDriver_V260_??_EN.tar.gz"? I guess so...
[12:10] <jennie> yes Walex there are *.DEB files int
[12:10] <ObrienDave> DF3D2, or loose cables
[12:10] <Walex> jennie: if you did that you should have done also 'cd Linux_CAPT_PrinterDriver_V260_uk_EN/'
[12:10] <Walex> jennie: and after that 'firefox Doc/index.html' and then chosen 'installation'
[12:11] <DF3D2> Walex, hmm i'm getting ata resets now and the only thing plugged in is a dvd drive
[12:11] <DF3D2> maybe it went bad?
[12:11] <Walex> jennie: however, first please put on paste.ubuntu.com the contents of 'etc/cups/printers.conf'
[12:11] <Walex> DF3D2: maybe the motherboard went bad, or the power supply went bad.
[12:12] <ObrienDave> DF3D2, separate controller card?
[12:13] <DF3D2> LOL THE DVD DRIVE WENT BAD
[12:13] <DF3D2> it booted fine with it unplugged
[12:13] <DF3D2> that is hilarious
[12:13] <Walex> DF3D2: that sometimes happens, but usually with PATA rather than SATA.
[12:13] <DF3D2> Walex, the dvd drive has barely ever been used too, but is like 3-4 years old
[12:13] <jennie> Walex: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555736/
[12:13] <DF3D2> Walex, I guess to rule out a bad cable/sata port I better try some combinations
[12:14] <DF3D2> different wire, dif port
[12:14] <Walex> jennie: ahh so the printers are defined in the 'ccpd' configuration.
[12:15] <Walex> jennie: now run 'sudo service cups restart'
[12:15] <jennie> cups stop/waiting cups start/running, process 4687
[12:15]  * DF3D2 kicks self in the ass for not removing quiet splash last night.
[12:16] <Walex> jennie:  then run 'sudo lpadmin -p LBP2900 -m CNCUPSLBP2900CAPTK.ppd -v ccp://localhost:59687 –E'
[12:18] <jennie> lpadmin: Bad device-uri scheme "ccp".
[12:18] <Walex> jennie: after that run 'sudo ccpdadmin -x canon2' and then again with "canonnew", "LBP5000", "canon2900", "LBP2900"
[12:18] <ObrienDave> DF3D2, (grub-customizer) shhhhh! don't tell anyone here ;)
[12:18] <Walex> jennie: we'll have a look at "Bad device-uri scheme "ccp"" later.
[12:20] <DF3D2> ObrienDave, okay so it is either the dvd drive or the sata port. (port worked fine yesterday) I just changed the wire, let me change the port and if it errors ill know to throw the drive away
[12:20] <jennie> Walex: all are deleted now
[12:21] <Walex> jennie: please post again to paste.ubuntu.com the contents of 'sudo cat /etc/cups/printers.conf'
[12:21] <Walex> jennie: also the output of 'lsusb'
[12:22] <jennie> ok
[12:22] <DF3D2> Okay so it "looks" like the sata port might have gone bad :-(
[12:22] <DF3D2> oh well I have more.
[12:22] <ObrienDave> DF3D2, separate controller card?
[12:23] <jennie> Walex: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555779/
[12:25] <krababbel> Where can I change the NTP server ntpdate polls at boot time?
[12:25] <DF3D2> ObrienDave, nah, this mobo has 4 sata 2 ports, and 4 sata3 it looks like 1 of the sata3 bit the dust
[12:25] <DF3D2> ObrienDave, yep it did
[12:26] <ObrienDave> k
[12:26] <DF3D2> it's odd, windows didn't care (I guess it was just too stupid to interrupt the boot process and let the user know.)
[12:26] <Walex> jennie: looks like the driver '.deb' were not installed quite right...
[12:27] <jennie> how to reinstall them ?
[12:27] <jennie> correctly*
[12:28] <Walex> jennie: first do 'sudo lpadmin -x LBP2900' so the incomplete entry is deleted.
[12:29] <jennie> lpadmin: The printer or class does not exist.
[12:29] <ObrienDave> DF3D2, did you say you just put this mobo in new case?
[12:30] <Kroach> I set a custom prompt for GDB with "set prompt", how can I set it permanently? is there something like .bashrc for GDB?
[12:30] <DF3D2> ObrienDave, yes I did
[12:30] <DF3D2> ObrienDave, it used to be the mobo for my gaming rig, but it's kind of garbage so I moved it to a new case for an htpc build.
[12:30] <ObrienDave> look for damaged/bent pins on mobo port for that sata port
[12:31] <john_rambo> Hi, I am in Live cd mode now....about to install ...My HDD is 160GB ....How much space should I allocate fo the /    ?
[12:31] <DF3D2> ObrienDave, in the actual sata port, or under neath it ?
[12:31] <Walex> then do 'sudo apt-get install ia32-libs libglade2 libpopt0:i386' to be sure.
[12:31] <ObrienDave> in the connector
[12:31] <Walex> john_rambo: I use 25GB, which is a bit generous, but good.
[12:32] <john_rambo> Walex, Okay
[12:33]  * ObrienDave used 30GB
[12:33] <Walex> jennie: after that, 'sudo service cups stop' and then 'sudo dpkg --purge cndrvcups-capt cndrvcups-common'
[12:33] <DF3D2> ObrienDave, i'll do so in a min when the install finishes
[12:33] <ObrienDave> k
[12:33] <Walex> jennie: then go to where ever you unpacked the Canon driver '.tar.gz' and go into '64-bit_Driver/Debian/'
[12:34] <jennie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555821/
[12:34] <Walex> jennie: then run 'sudo dpkg --install cndrvcups*.deb'
[12:34] <Walex> jennie: that paste was good.
[12:35] <Walex> jennie: after the install, run 'sudo service cups start'
[12:36] <Walex> and then run 'sudo service ccpd start'
[12:36] <jennie> Walex: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555828/
[12:37] <jennie> sun@sun-desktop:~/Desktop/Linux_CAPT_PrinterDriver_V260_uk_EN/64-bit_Driver/Debian$ sudo service ccpd start
[12:37] <Walex> jennie: all looks good so far.
[12:37] <jennie> Starting /usr/sbin/ccpd: .
[12:37] <Walex> now the outputs of 'sudo lpstat -a' and 'sudo ccpdadmin', they should list no printers.
[12:38] <jennie> Walex: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555834/
[12:39] <Walex> jennie: looks good.
[12:39] <DF3D2> ObrienDave, I see no physical damage, it likely just "burned out" or some such I wore a static grounding band when I moved it. and I always touch metal repeatedly to discharge but things do still happen
[12:39] <Walex> jennie:  now again 'sudo lpadmin -p LBP2900 -m CNCUPSLBP2900CAPTK.ppd -v ccp://localhost:59687'
[12:40] <DF3D2> ObrienDave, the motherboard is a bad one to begin with. It lies on reported core voltage, with actual voltage being around +0.040mv higher
[12:40] <jennie> but Walex , in paste above  UI Port       is   = 59787
[12:40] <jennie> and in command it is 59687
[12:40] <Walex> then run 'sudo find /dev -name "*lp[0-9]*"
[12:41] <Walex> jennie: ah yes, the port number should be the same, so use 59787
[12:41] <Walex> jennie: I was copying from the Canon manual unthinkingly...
[12:41] <summit> why is that ...windows use less power compared to ubuntu. Is there anyway to reduce power consumption . !
[12:42] <jennie> sun@sun-desktop:~/Desktop/Linux_CAPT_PrinterDriver_V260_uk_EN/64-bit_Driver/Debian$ sudo find /dev -name "*lp[0-9]*"
[12:42] <jennie> sun@sun-desktop:~/Desktop/Linux_CAPT_PrinterDriver_V260_uk_EN/64-bit_Driver/Debian$
[12:42] <Walex> jennie: after that 'sudo lpstat -a' should list the printer
[12:42] <Walex> jennie: after that 'sudo lpstat -a' should list the printer *driver*
[12:43] <jennie> Walex: look here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555844/
[12:43] <Walex> jennie: well, if the printer is attached bia USB, and 'lsusb' says it is attached, there must be some kind of entry in '/dev/' for it.
[12:44] <Walex> jennie: that paste is good!
[12:44] <ObrienDave> DF3D2, .04mv is not a problem. most things have 5 to 10% tolerance on voltages
[12:46] <DF3D2> ObrienDave, 0.040 is alot for the vcore on a cpui
[12:46] <DF3D2> mobo reporting is inaccurate, measuring the correct 2 points with a multmeter shows the same
[12:47] <Walex> jennie: so which '/dev/' entry do you think the printer is connected as?
[12:47] <DF3D2> ObrienDave, so you think you are running say +0.100 vcore but you are actually running +0.140
[12:47] <Walex> jennie: try 'ls -ld /dev/*lp* /dev/*/*lp*'
[12:48] <ludkiller> rejoin ludkiller:CUMINMYMOUTH +o -npst
[12:48] <Walex> jennie: unless your printer is network connected...
[12:48] <jennie> sudo ls -ld /dev/*lp* /dev/*/*lp*
[12:48] <jennie> ls: cannot access /dev/*lp*: No such file or directory
[12:49] <jennie> printer is connected by USB cable in computer
[12:50] <tatenda> hi
[12:50] <cfhowlett> tatenda, greetings
[12:51] <tatenda> shoo
[12:55] <YokoBR> hey guys, i can't open remote files with nautilus.. if i open it with geany, for example, it comes blank.
[13:02] <saleniex> join #nm
[13:02] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:03] <jennie> Walex: ?
[13:03] <randomcpp> does anybody have the same message in terminals on trusty (desktop)? no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4831, leaking memory
[13:04] <osubuntu> 으헝헝
[13:04] <osubuntu> oh sorry
[13:04] <osubuntu> i accidently pasted weird strings here :(
[13:05] <santhosh> hai
[13:05] <DF3D2> now the dvd player and that sata port work
[13:05] <DF3D2> what the heck lol
[13:05] <santhosh> am installing ltsp on lubuntu but in my case the applcation server and clients gets same ip
[13:05] <santhosh> how to reslove this problem
[13:06] <Walex> jennie: a bit distracted by work :-)
[13:06] <ObrienDave> DF3D2, probably a loose cable ;P
[13:06] <ikonia> santhosh: sort dchp out
[13:06] <ikonia> dhcp
[13:06] <Walex> jennie: has anything been printed by 'ls' for '/dev/*/*lp*'?
[13:07] <santhosh> yes  ian using dhcp but in loogin mode geting dhcp ip after login it is geting application server ip
[13:07] <jennie> walex ls: cannot access /dev/*/*lp*: No such file or directory
[13:08] <Walex> jennie: if the printer does not appear under '/dev/' it is a big problem...
[13:08] <DF3D2> ObrienDave, I had messed around with the cables
[13:08] <DF3D2> i can't explain it
[13:08] <Walex> jennie: unplug the printer, wait 10 seconds, plug it in again, and then run 'sudo find /dev -mmin -2'
[13:09] <esde> Teamviewer was dead simple to setup on ubuntu, and is nice because it's so easy to connect without dealing with firewalls. But my ubuntu desktop always shows ~15-25% more cpu usage when TV is running. Is there a lighter weight method of remotely connecting to my Ubnutu Desktop environment (ssh access already enabled, this is to remotely connect to the /desktop/) thank yoiu
[13:09] <esde> *you
[13:09] <impradeepy> jennie, unplug, reboot then type sudo /etc/init.d/ccpd status and paste its output
[13:10] <Walex> impradeepy: that's pointless.
[13:10] <impradeepy> Walex, why?
[13:10] <santhosh> is any body on ltsp
[13:11] <Walex> impradeepy: because the printer is not appearing under '/dev/' even if it is listed by 'lsusb'. 'ccpd' cannot be configured for it unless we know the device file name.
[13:11] <ikonia> santhosh: why ?
[13:12] <karab44> Hi
[13:12] <jennie> Walex: few hours back it was showing printer under /dev/usb/lp0 , now it is not :-S . http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555939/
[13:12] <cfhowlett> santhosh, more likely in the #ubuntu-server or #edubuntu channels
[13:12] <cfhowlett> santhosh, and I believe there's a dedicated ltsp channel
[13:12] <karab44> anytime I connect my smartphone to Ubuntu I have that there is a problem with MTP. How to fix that?
[13:13] <cfhowlett> karab44, "problem" ????
 iam installing ltsp dhcp server and applicattion server in my client side ia geting ip from dhcp but after login in client machine i shows an application server ip
[13:13] <impradeepy> Walex, in that case i think "usblp kernel module"is missing, am i right?
iam installing ltsp dhcp server and applicattion server in my client side ia geting ip from dhcp but after login in client machine i shows an application server ip
[13:14] <ikonia> santhosh: 1.) check fo IP conflicts - make sure it is actually getting the same IP 2.) look at your dhcp lease file and make sure there is nothing conflicting, 3.) look at your dhcp pool
[13:16] <karab44> cfhowlett: brb, got to catch issue
[13:16] <jennie> think I have to restart computer, brb in a minute
[13:16] <impradeepy> Walex, please correct me if i am wrong thankyou, just curious to know where i am not getting it i think "usblp kernel module"is missing
[13:17] <saleniex> hi!
[13:18] <saleniex> where shared libraries are searched?
[13:19] <ikonia> saleniex: what do you mean ?
[13:19] <saleniex> i do have one in /usr/local/lib/, but got cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[13:19] <ikonia> saleniex: where did you get that error ? what are you trying to do ?
[13:19] <impradeepy> saleniex, please have a look-http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/libraries.html
[13:20] <ikonia> impradeepy: what is he doing ?
[13:20] <saleniex> this happens when I try to launch ModemManager
[13:20] <impradeepy> searching
[13:20] <ikonia> impradeepy: searching for what ?
[13:20] <impradeepy> package dependency o
[13:20] <ikonia> impradeepy: no - he's not
[13:21] <saleniex> ikonia: i meant search path like PATH for executables
[13:21] <ikonia> saleniex: it doesn't quite work like that
[13:21] <DF3D2> okay in pavucontrol I have SPDIF (optical) set, but sound keeps coming through the HDMI wire
[13:21] <ikonia> saleniex: 1.) how are you laucning it 2.) how did you install it 3.) can you show us in a pastebin the exact error
[13:21] <DF3D2> not sure how to fix this
[13:22] <impradeepy> ikonia:thankyou
[13:22] <ludkiller> sorry for earlier boradcast I was tricked :3
[13:22] <Walex> impradeepy: perhaps yes, perhaps not.
[13:22] <Walex> impradeepy: in theory 'udev' should load that module automagically
[13:23] <saleniex> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6555992/
[13:23] <Layke> How can I output the contents of any command to a file? Basically I'm using an applicaiton that lets me specify a command that it will run, but it's not working. I want to see what the command is outputing when it's being ran..
[13:23] <ikonia> saleniex: and the answer to my other questions ?
[13:24] <impradeepy> Walex, hopes so, but we should run a troubleshoot to check it right?thats why i said to run the current status and according to you device path is missing so
[13:25] <impradeepy> Walex, usblp kernel module must be missing
[13:25] <impradeepy> Walex, can check it by lsmod | grep usblp
[13:25] <saleniex> ikonia: 1) @pastebin, 2) make from source - particular lib file is in place, 3) @pastebin
[13:25] <DF3D2> aplay -l says my alc898 digital is card 0: device 1, so I put the appropriate line in /etc/default/pulse.pa but then the daemon won't start?
[13:25] <Walex> impradeepy: yes... But <jennie> has been rebooting her system.
[13:26] <impradeepy> Walex, yes :)
[13:26] <ikonia> saleniex: you made it from source, then it should be linked against that library already
[13:26] <ft_mn> hi everybody! Does anybody know how to create a VIRTUAL usb stick on my ubuntu box?? i know how to make a virtual HD so it has to be a bit close to that
[13:26] <ikonia> saleniex: can you show me the output of "which ModemManager"
[13:26] <Walex> impradeepy: also note that 'service ccpd status' only checks whether the daemon is running, not whether it is configured for a printer, that can be done instead with 'ccpdadmin'.
[13:26] <saleniex> ikonia: /usr/local/sbin/ModemManager
[13:26] <karab44> okay
[13:27] <impradeepy> Walex, agreed
[13:27] <ikonia> saleniex: can you pastebin the output of "ldd /usr/local/sbin/ModemManager"
[13:27] <saleniex> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6556012/
[13:27] <karab44> Problem with mounting smartphone is Unable to mount SAMSUNG_Android, Unable to open MTP device '[usb:001,010]'
[13:28] <ft_mn> hi everybody! Does anybody know how to create a VIRTUAL usb stick on my ubuntu box?? i know how to make a virtual HD so it has to be a bit close to that
[13:28] <saleniex> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6556012/
[13:28] <ikonia> saleniex: you sppear to have a few missing libraries, are they all in /usr/local/lib ?
[13:28] <impradeepy> yes libqmi-glib.so.1
[13:29] <ikonia> impradeepy: what are you talking about ?
[13:29] <impradeepy> ikonia:missing lib
[13:29] <ikonia> impradeepy: where is that lib
[13:29] <DF3D2> can someone help im stumped trying to setup optical audio, it should work but doesn't
[13:30] <saleniex> ikonia: yap - /usr/local/lib/libmm-glib.so.0 -> libmm-glib.so.0.0.0*
[13:30] <impradeepy> ikonia: can we find it using readelf - /usr/libqmi-glib.so.1 | grep SONAME
[13:31] <saleniex> ikonia: maybe there is smth wrong w install script?
[13:31] <ikonia> saleniex: ok, my suggestion is to go to /etc/ld.so.conf.d make a file called "ModemManager.conf" put in the path of /usr/local/lib and run ldconfig
[13:31] <ikonia> impradeepy: I'd really like you to stop giving the wrong information
[13:31] <impradeepy> ikonia: can we find it using readelf - /usr/lib/libqmi-glib.so.1 | grep SONAME
[13:31] <ikonia> impradeepy: you appear to now know what you are doing or what you are referecning in regard to saleniex's problem
[13:32] <impradeepy> ikonia:i am testing in my terminal than posting here, ok i will stop now
[13:32] <ikonia> impradeepy: your system is DIFFERENT to his, I asked HIM if HIS libraries where in /usr/local/lib
[13:33] <DF3D2> okay my optical started working but who the heck knows why
[13:33] <aent> hi, I have multiple PDF files of which I wanted to be able to merge them together, but collated with page 1 of file 1, then page 2 of file 2, page 2 of file 1, page 2 of file 2, is there any way to do that automatically?
[13:33] <saleniex> ikonia: that solved the problem
[13:33] <ikonia> saleniex: as suspected, excellent
[13:34] <saleniex> ikonia: so it might be reported as an install script bug?
[13:34] <ikonia> saleniex: no, not at all
[13:34] <impradeepy> ikonia:apology
[13:34] <DF3D2> there is some bug in pulse/alsa when switching between hdmi/optical audio
[13:34] <ikonia> saleniex: you're supposed to understand what's happening and make your system setup in line with what you are doing, the ldconfig has changed over the last few years,
[13:35] <saleniex> ikonia: well, those missing libs came from ModemManager and I did reinstalled this software twice
[13:36] <saleniex> ikonia: anyway, thanks for help!
[13:36] <ikonia> saleniex: they are not missing - they are there, it's not a bug
[13:36] <ikonia> saleniex: you just didn't setup your machines linker
[13:37] <saleniex> ikonia: ok, i see
[13:38] <cfhowlett> !mtp|karab44,
[13:39] <hays> Wow. I should not have upgraded to 13.10. Computer boots to X and won't let me in from there.
[13:39] <karab44> mtp is not there :(
[13:40] <Mongo44> !mtp | karab44
[13:40] <BluesKaj> DF3D2. , open a terminal and run , sudo lshw -C sound , then pastebin the output
[13:41] <DF3D2> BluesKaj, will do, I got the optical to work but it only shows up as "digital stereo" it should be 5.1 right?
[13:43] <BluesKaj> DF3D2. depends on the source audio stream , even dolby digital is only inb 2.1  on some sources
[13:43] <cfhowlett> karab44, depends on what version of ubuntu you're running.  12.04 doesn't support mtp without help.  search for ubuntu ##.## + android and you'll find a few workarounnds
[13:43] <DF3D2> BluesKaj, oh.... if I hit 'ac3' or 'dts' in pavucontrol sound doesn't work anyway
[13:44] <DF3D2> http://pastebin.com/4vZtPycX
[13:44] <BluesKaj> pcm audio is usually 2 ch stereo , it's just digital
[13:44] <karab44> yes but I use 13.04 and people just say 13.04 has great improvements for mtp support
[13:45] <DF3D2> BluesKaj, the dvd says it is 5.1 on the box
[13:45] <DF3D2> BluesKaj, yeah my receiver has the PCM light on
[13:45] <DF3D2> I want 5.1/dolby to work
[13:47] <cfhowlett> karab44, mtp is not where?  there are multiple hits on it via google search: ubuntu + mtp + android
[13:48] <BluesKaj> DF3D2. ok , which player are you using ..VLC is best for digital sources in my experience , the VLC audio has to be setup to work with pavucontrol outputs
[13:48] <DF3D2> BluesKaj, yes vlc, and I have it set to use "pulse audio"
[13:49] <DF3D2> and spdif
[13:49] <k1l_> karab44: since 13.04 there is mtp support ootb
[13:49] <ActionPa1snip> DF3D2: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[13:49] <DF3D2> I figured it out
[13:50] <DF3D2> it would only work if I set the output to ALSA in VLC
[13:50] <DF3D2> why is that?
[13:50] <k1l_> karab44: make sure your android is setup right and the cable is working
[13:50] <ActionPa1snip> DF3D2: pulse is an abstraction on top of alsa, so maybe going straight to alsa helps
[13:50] <karab44> k1l_: I know that, then bigger suprised I am. With cables everything is cool.
[13:50] <Villiska> Is there any way to remove the annoyance of upgrading to 13.10 in 13.04 until end of life date? If I run "sudo apt-get upgrade" it tries to force the upgrade. I want to use 13.04 until the last day due to 13.10 being so buggy. How can I fix this?
[13:51] <Villiska> I've already changed it to notify me "never" so I'm not sure why it still does
[13:51] <Guest62727> Hi, I want to boot ubuntu from pen drive but it doesn't have a boot menu, what I need to do?
[13:51] <ActionPa1snip> Guest62727: hold SHIFT at boot
[13:51] <karab44> I connect my phone through VM on ubu13.04 host to W7 and it works flawlessly.
[13:52] <Guest62727> I can only press tab and alt+F2
[13:52] <cfhowlett> karab44, people say ... right.  well, the fix, if you're interested, takes about 90 seconds.  find it, install it, enjoy it.
[13:52] <ActionPa1snip> Guest62727: SHIFT is the Grub2 key to show its contents rather than just boot the default (if you single boot)
[13:52] <BluesKaj> DF3D2. ok good stuff
[13:52] <IvanT> but my boot menu isn't grub
[13:53] <IvanT> The bios is Phoenix
[13:53] <DF3D2> ActionPa1snip, http://alsa-project.org/db/?f=6931f2664e23f5cb414f17cedb53f05b21428075
[13:53] <k1l_> karab44: so we are talking about a ubuntu in VM? make sure the usb gets to ubuntu
[13:53] <karab44> nope, ubuntu is a host
[13:53] <DF3D2> BluesKaj, seems to be a well known issue that dolby digital/dts only work with HDMI via pulse audio, for optical you have to use ALSA direct. Sucks that my receiver is a bit old and doesn't do audio via hdmi only video.
[13:53] <IvanT> I just installed ubuntu in the pen drive
[13:53] <DF3D2> ActionPa1snip, sorry.
[13:54] <DF3D2> ActionPa1snip, http://alsa-project.org/db/?f=6931f2664e23f5cb414f17cedb53f05b21428075
[13:54] <karab44> Cmon cfhowlett are talking here about fix or workaround? I don't need 50 tools apps and 500 different libraries because 499 of them doesn't work. I love to keep my system clean out of rubbish
[13:54] <IvanT> It doesn't detect the pendrive
[13:54] <k1l_> karab44: like i said. it should work ootb. make sure that the usb port is not used by the VM for smth other
[13:54] <IvanT> I just detect floppy disk
[13:54] <IvanT> is the bios too old?
[13:54] <karab44> my VM doesn't work constantly, I just use it for testing from time to time
[13:55] <ActionPa1snip> IvanT: not all BIOSes can boot USB
[13:55] <ActionPa1snip> IvanT: there is a floppy image on pendrivelinux which can then boot USB
[13:55] <Villiska> Is there any way to remove the annoyance of upgrading to 13.10 in 13.04 until end of life date? If I run "sudo apt-get upgrade" it tries to force the upgrade. I want to use 13.04 until the last day due to 13.10 being so buggy. How can I fix this?
[13:55] <IvanT> ActionPalsnip: how to know if my bios can boot usb?
[13:55] <Villiska> I've already changed it to notify me "never" so I'm not sure why it still does
[13:56] <k1l_> karab44: wait, are you wokring with ubuntu or something other?
[13:56] <IvanT> k1l_: ?
[13:56] <ActionPa1snip> IvanT: look in it's options, see if USB is an option
[13:57] <IvanT> ActionPalsnip: there is no boot menu but there is setup and it boot windows by defauld
[13:57] <jrib> Villiska: apt-get upgrade won't upgrade you to 13.10 unless you've done something strange.
[13:57] <DF3D2> BluesKaj, ActionPa1snip it seems like pulse audio is usually alot more trouble than it is worth
[13:58] <oquidave> hello, could someone explain the addressing scheme linux uses to assign the device blocks to usb flash disks/modems? what does /dev/ttyUSB0, /dev/ttyUSB1, /dev/ttyUSB2 mean?
[13:58] <Villiska> Well, the only thing I've done is go into my update settings and change the "show new ubuntu updates" to "never"
[13:58] <karab44> k1l_: Generally I am working with computer. :) Ubuntu -----> host (MTP problem) W7 -----> VM guest (no problem).
[13:58] <oquidave> hello, could someone explain the addressing scheme linux uses to assign the device blocks to usb flash disks/modems? what does /dev/ttyUSB0, /dev/ttyUSB1, /dev/ttyUSB2 mean?
[13:58] <deanrock0> hi, any idea why I would get this error: "./configure: line 4362: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(USB, libusb-1.0 >= 1.0.0,,'" even though I have libusb-1-0.0-dev installed?
[13:58] <jrib> Villiska: what exactly are you seeing when you run apt-get update?
[13:58] <k1l_> karab44: which ubuntu?
[13:58] <Villiska> but I see the same packages trying to install as i do in dist-upgrade
[13:58] <Villiska> One second
[13:58] <karab44> 13.04
[13:58] <jrib> Villiska: dist-upgrade also does not upgrade you to 13.10.p
[13:58] <Villiska> Really?
[13:58] <jrib> !dist-upgrade | Villiska
[13:58] <k1l_> karab44: which file manager?
[13:59] <karab44> nautilus
[13:59] <Villiska> jrib,
[13:59] <Villiska> The following packages have been kept back:
[13:59] <Villiska>   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[13:59] <Villiska> The following packages will be upgraded:
[13:59] <Villiska>   python3-distupgrade ubuntu-release-upgrader-core ubuntu-release-upgrader-gtk
[13:59] <Villiska> 3 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[13:59] <FloodBot1> Villiska: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:59] <pkp> Is there a way that I could access mounted file systems in ubuntu server?
[13:59] <jrib> Villiska: dist-upgrade just tells the package manager it's ok to install new packages as a result of changed deps
[13:59] <k1l_> karab44: please show the dmesg output when connecting the phone
[13:59] <jrib> Villiska: that's just a normal upgrade.  You should do a dist-upgrade (since otherwise you won't get kernel upgrades)
[13:59] <IvanT> ActionPalsnip: how to find this: there is a floppy image on pendrivelinux which can then boot USB
[13:59] <karab44> k1l_: sure, thank you
[13:59] <BluesKaj> DF3D2., I loop the hdmi thru the tv back to the receiver via the optical outs on thr tv into the receiver's 2nd optical input , i don't use it much since the spdif out goes directly to the the receiver ., but it's backup
[13:59] <Villiska> So that's not 13.10?
[13:59] <jrib> Villiska: correct
[13:59] <Villiska> Thank you very much!
[14:00] <DF3D2> BluesKaj, yeah this tv doesn't have optical in out, so my setup is like this pc>receiver (optical) pc>direct tv (hdmi) I need to get a receiver that does hdmi audio eventually but this one is 7.1 and sounds fine so I can't see spending money on a new one till it breaks
[14:00] <pkp> Just in case my question got lost, Is there a way I can access mounted file system from server?
[14:00] <pkp> ubuntu server, I mean.
[14:00] <Villiska> Thank you very much jrib. I got a PM saying I can speak now so I'm not sure you got that.
[14:01] <jrib> pkp: sure
[14:02] <BluesKaj> DF3D2. agreed my receiver is 7 yrs old now , but it still works great and I have no plans to to change it
[14:02] <pkp> jrib, How? I have set up an apache server, but the mounted filesystems need root privilege to be accessed..
[14:02] <jrib> pkp: what filesystem?
[14:02] <pkp> ntfs, jrib
[14:03] <pkp> jrib, basically my windows fs
[14:03] <jrib> !ntfs | pkp
[14:03] <DF3D2> BluesKaj, my stereo music receiver is like 35-40 y.ears old, sansui and it sounds amazing
[14:03] <jrib> pkp: you should be able to modify the permissions (probably at mount time)
[14:05] <wadie> I'm having a network issue..I can't load any website on firefox or chrome! but I do have internet connection.
[14:05] <BluesKaj> DF3D2. yeah , one of my buddies still uses his sansui 8080 receiver for his music system , he bought it in 1976 :)
[14:06] <andygraybeal> BluesKaj, my dad has something similiar
[14:07] <BluesKaj> andygraybeal. , yeah i'm old :)
[14:07] <wadie> can someone help me please
[14:07] <DF3D2> BluesKaj, that is a damn good unit, I have an au8500 which is another gem. Sansui/marantz/kenwood/pioneer all amazing 70's stuff
[14:07] <andygraybeal> BluesKaj, i thought i was old :)
[14:07] <DF3D2> my receiver is 15 years older than me O.O
[14:08] <andygraybeal> wadie, check your DNS first i would suspect, how are you on irc?
[14:08] <wadie> I don't know lol
[14:08] <BluesKaj> DF3D2. I still use a Heathkit AA29 amp for backup . built in 1972
[14:08] <wadie> I just can't load any website,but I do have an internet connection
[14:08] <andygraybeal> wadie, okay welll .. go to terminal and do 'dig www.google.com'  something shuld come up.. also try 'ping www.google.com'
[14:08] <k1l_> wadie: do you use a proxy or vpn?
[14:08] <andygraybeal> if nothing comes up.. i wonder hw your on irc :)
[14:08] <BluesKaj> wadie. how do you know , can you update/upgrade ?
[14:09] <wadie> andygraybeal I can ping google.com
[14:09] <andygraybeal> k1l_, asks better questions than me :)
[14:09] <wadie> k1l_ no proxy or vpn
[14:09] <andygraybeal> i think he is on to something quicker than i am.
[14:10] <wadie> BluesKaj I can check for updated..
[14:10] <wadie> updates
[14:10] <andygraybeal> wadie, are you refreshed your browser right?
[14:10] <wadie> yea
[14:10] <wadie> and I tried on firefox and chrome
[14:10] <IvanT> now the pen drive works, but it just display some black and white stripe
[14:10] <BluesKaj> wadie. are you using a bridged connection on your modem ?
[14:10] <IvanT> what is the problem?
[14:10] <wadie> BluesKaj what is a bridged connection? I do have a router and a modem
[14:11] <BluesKaj> wadie. pastebin, the output of, ifconfig
[14:12] <wadie> can't load pastebin lol
[14:12] <BluesKaj> oops :)
[14:12] <wadie> tell me what to send you
[14:12] <wadie> which lines or soemthing
[14:14] <Nach0z> whoops. wrong button. lol.
[14:15] <wadie> BluesKaj anything ?
[14:15] <andygraybeal> wadie, bro, reboot?  try again... i know i'm gonna get made fun of for that...
[14:16] <john_rambo> lsusb shows my flash drive but it is not getting mounted .....Does that mean its wont work anymore ?
[14:16] <andygraybeal> sounds like you got proxy config'd like k1l_ was saying
[14:16] <BluesKaj> wadie. cabn transfer the text to the pc your're chatting on with a textfile or some such ?
[14:16] <wadie> yea I can
[14:16] <andygraybeal> john_rambo, i had the same problem... look at sudo fdisk -l or run sudo gparted .. does it show anything?
[14:16] <BluesKaj> can you, rather
[14:17] <wadie> and send the textfile to you ?
[14:17] <BluesKaj> pm me and post it there , wadie
[14:17] <wadie> ok
[14:18] <BluesKaj> then I can post it in pastebin for others to look at , wadie
[14:18] <DF3D2> BluesKaj, where are module.ko files stored?
[14:18] <wadie> andygraybeal I'm sure I don't have proxy and rebooting might fix it,but it's not the first time this happens. I want an effective fix.
[14:18] <john_rambo> andygraybeal, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6556191/
[14:18] <andygraybeal> do what BluesKaj says, i'm sure he's better at this than me :)
[14:18] <wadie> sure
[14:18] <wadie> I'm doing it
[14:20] <andygraybeal> john_rambo, is that jump drive a 4gb drive.. that looks like it's hooking up to /dev/sdb ?
[14:21] <andygraybeal> or is that another drive on  your system all together?
[14:22] <andygraybeal> john_rambo, lets hope someone else jumps in with a more practical answer than me :)
[14:22] <john_rambo> andygraybeal, Its an usb flash drive of 4 GB
[14:22] <john_rambo> I will just reformat it
[14:23] <andygraybeal> gparted is easy to use, easy enough for me to figure out :)
[14:25] <Nach0z> gparted is definitely easier than windows' disk manager
[14:25] <andi_> i have a problem running ubuntu 12.04 LTS on my 8 years old Acer Travelmate notebook: It is getting too hot. Have googled a lot but found no solution. any advice is very welcome.
[14:27] <andi_> i am actually only running thunderbird and firefox. I think it has nothing to do with flash applications.
[14:28] <andi_> is this the right channel to get this question answered?
[14:28] <botsu> andi_: i would start with updating the system
[14:29] <MickS> andi_: thoroughly clean your laptop... in those years it may have collected a lot of dust, so your cooling isn't as efficient as it was. Secondly you might want to consider lubuntu, the lightweight version, which might cause some less load for your system
[14:29] <andi_> it has the latest patchlevel.
[14:30] <andi_> the laptop itself is old, the installation is only two weeks old, completly new, no upgrade
[14:31] <andi_> the laptop is even getting hot while being idle for hours
[14:32] <andi_> must be a configuration or driver problem or the like
[14:32] <botsu> andi_: next thing i'd do is to run System Monitor app and see if there is a program or process at fault
[14:32] <andrewvos> Am I allowed to paste a link to an askubuntu question in here to perhaps get some more visibility?
[14:33] <botsu> if your computer is running a single process at 100%, kill it and see what you get
[14:33] <andi_> botsu: if if run "top" i the there is not process consuming cpu
[14:34] <andi_> botsu: if i run "top" i see there is no process consuming cpu
[14:34] <andrewvos> I'm running 13.10 on a new MBA 6.2. Also, I have 13.10 on a 5.1 MBA. When I run sysbench with a CPU test the new 6.2 is twice as slow as the old 5.1 MBA. Any ideas why?
[14:35] <andygraybeal> andi_, i would try what MickS said, take your laptop apart and clean it out.
[14:35] <andrewvos> I didn't use the ubuntu Mac 64 release becuase it wouldn't boot up. I'm using the 64 bit default release
[14:35] <andygraybeal> if it is just idling, and overheating...  :(
[14:35] <Ari-Yang> andygraybeal: what graphics card?
[14:36] <Ari-Yang> amd?
[14:36] <botsu> andi_: sometimes when computer are about to go bye bye they start behaving oddly, maybe it's hardware related but that's just a guess
[14:36] <andygraybeal> Ari-Yang, lots of and*'s :)
[14:36] <Ari-Yang> andi_: run lspci | grep VGA what is the output
[14:36] <Ari-Yang> @ andy my bad
[14:36] <andrewvos> Apologies for breaking all your tab completion :)
[14:38] <rosco_y> andrewvos: are you using ubuntuone?
[14:38] <Ari-Yang> andi_: if you do have a radeon card (like hd4000 series or something), then I think it's safe to say that the radeon open source driver is running your laptop hot, that is known to happen.
[14:38] <Choofn> hello
[14:38] <andi_> Ari-Yang: Says: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc [AMD/ATI] RV410/M26 [Mobility Radeon X700]
[14:39] <andrewvos> rosco_y: I am not
[14:39] <andygraybeal> Ari-Yang, right on!
[14:39] <Ari-Yang> andi_: alright, what ubuntu version are you running?
[14:39] <botsu> andi_: also, is this heat coming from a specific part of the case? might help you determine what component is acting up
[14:39] <andi_> Ari-Yang: 12.04 LTS
[14:39] <nisse_> I have created a panel with pop up function on the lower half of the screen. how do i make it fully transparent according to what window i have up?
[14:40] <rosco_y> andrewvos: I had a problem with ubuntuone pegging (at least one) of my processors to 100%, and I wasn't even using it.
[14:40] <nashant> Hey, I've got a screensaver problem. I've disabled it, but still after about 10 minutes of no activity the screen goes blank
[14:40] <rosco_y> really slowed my system down
[14:41] <andygraybeal> nashant, sounds like power configuration
[14:41] <rosco_y> I think I uninstalled ubuntuone, haven't had a problem since
[14:41] <Ari-Yang> andi_: yeah, it's a radeon card... but the thing is it's an old one and I don't think the new dynamic power management works for it, afaik it only works for HD series... check this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver#Kernel_3.10.x_and_Earlier
[14:41] <randomcpp> does anybody have the same message in terminals on trusty (desktop)? no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4831, leaking memory
[14:41] <andrewvos> rosco_y: My processors seem to be pretty stable
[14:41] <nashant> andygraybeal: Any where would I find the config for that?
[14:41] <rosco_y> andrewvos: must be something else
[14:41] <nashant> oops
[14:41] <nashant> got power config
[14:41] <DJones> randomcpp: Probably best asking in #ubuntu+1 for Trusty issues, thats the support channel for the development release
[14:42] <andygraybeal> nashant, what ver of ubuntu 12.04?  "Gear Icon" -> System Settings ...
[14:42] <Ari-Yang> andi_: I suppose you could try fglrx... it's amd's proprietary driver and it might help, though I warn you it may break something, it tends to do that, especially with newer cards; though your card isn't new...
[14:43] <nashant> andygraybeal: using xfce, but I had it set to never put the monitor to sleep
[14:43] <andygraybeal> nashant, hopefully someone with more experience will respond then :)
[14:43] <ActionPa1snip> nashant: what screensaver are yu using?
[14:43] <ActionPa1snip> nashant: gnome-screensaver or xscreensaver?
[14:44] <nashant> ActionPa1snip: How do I find out?
[14:44] <kongthap> how can i resize the desktop icon size using terminal???
[14:44] <ActionPa1snip> nashant: dpkg -l | grep screebsaver
[14:44] <andi_> Ari-Yang: A couple of days ago I already tried fglrx for any reason. I had the problem that the screen resolution wasnt the native anymore. I wasnt able to configure it properly using UI tools. So I deinstalled it again.
[14:44] <ActionPa1snip> nashant: dpkg -l | grep screensaver
[14:44] <nashant> ActionPa1snip: xscreensaver
[14:45] <ActionPa1snip> nashant: run:  xscreensaver-demo      under advanced you can disable power management as well as disable the kill the daemon
[14:47] <nashant> ActionPa1snip: Display power management is disabled
[14:48] <wadie> BluesKaj
[14:50] <andi_> Ari-Yang: Do you think installing the latest Ubuntu (13.10?) will solve it?
[14:51] <andi_> Ari-Yang: Maybe because of running a newer kernel?
[14:51] <Ari-Yang> andi_: maybe.... like install 13.10 then add radeon.dpm=1 to GRUB
[14:51] <Ari-Yang> andi_: or install a new kernel on 12.04 if you want...
[14:52] <Ari-Yang> andi_: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.12.4-trusty/ that is the latest stable
[14:52] <andi_> Ari-Yang: Can i simply install a new kernel without having large effects?
[14:52] <Ari-Yang> andi_: if you are on 64bit then download and install the headers amd64, the headers all, and the image amd64
[14:53] <andi_> Ari-Yang: No, its 32bit
[14:53] <Ari-Yang> andi_: or just install ubuntu 13.10
[14:53] <hiroshi> @
[14:53] <Ari-Yang> andi_: oh then download and install the headers i386, the headers all, and the image i386
[14:54] <andi_> Do you think running ubuntu 13.10 from CD is a valid test before doing all that?
[14:54] <andi_> Ari-Yang: Do you think running ubuntu 13.10 from CD is a valid test before doing all that?
[14:54] <Ari-Yang> andi_: it will be tricky because you have to add the radeon.dpm=1 parameter to grub
[14:54] <Ari-Yang> andi_: alright, I got to go afk, good luck
[14:55] <andi_> Ari-Yang: Thank you very much!
[14:55] <compdoc> dont think so
[14:55] <Felipe_C> HI, Anyone could could answer a couple of questions regarding JUJU - Manual provisioning?
[14:56] <andygraybeal> felipe_C , maybe better response in #ubuntu-server, but i cannot say
[14:57] <Felipe_C> Thanks andygraybeal - will try!
[14:57] <andygraybeal> and i dn't know if it's the rules here, but it's best just to ask the question, not ask to ask the question.  but i'm not being a b(tsh about it.
[14:58] <nisse_> I get error message Main failed on playonlinux when i tried to start Baldurs Gate 2. tips?
[15:00] <cfhowlett> nisse_, tip: tell the actual error message!
[15:00] <nisse_> Thats the actual error message i get
[15:01] <nisse_> Error in main
[15:01] <nisse_> Baldur's Gate II crashed.
[15:01] <cfhowlett> nisse_, see the wine database.  playonlinux is the frontend of wine
[15:01] <cfhowlett> !wine
[15:01] <streulma> hello, I find out that Linux (Ubuntu) on a Macbook Pro Retina 15 inch, is not crisp and clear to read on lower resolutions. What can I do to run Linux?
[15:02] <herol3oy> I have a big problem about my mail and web server, can i ask it here?
[15:03] <cfhowlett> herol3oy, server?  #ubuntu-server    but ask here first
[15:03] <streulma> herol3oy, if your server runs Ubuntu Server, yes
[15:05] <andi_> I found an interessting boot msg regarding my system getting too hot, maybe through Radeon driver:
[15:05] <andi_> radeon: refused to change power statet, currently in D0
[15:06] <andi_> radeon: power state changed byACPI to 3dhot
[15:06] <andi_> radeon: power state changed to D0
[15:06] <andi_> is this an indicator for anything?
[15:07] <andygraybeal> Ari-Yang, you still around and see what andi_said?
[15:08] <herol3oy> i have got a website and someone or somthing is sending thousand of emails from my default mail account which is set to my user account and right now inside my mail box there are more 40000 undelivered msgs. how i can i stop this?
[15:08] <herol3oy> http://www.xum.ir/images/2013/12/11/asd.jpg
[15:09] <iszak> If I'm creating a mirror of apt repositories do I need -security + -updates or just the main release?
[15:09] <gordonjcp> herol3oy: are they actually attempting to send it through your mailserver?
[15:09] <andi_> andygraybeal: I think Ari-Yang left...
[15:09] <gordonjcp> herol3oy: it may be that they are sending it through another server, and just have your email address as the return address
[15:10] <herol3oy> gordonjcp: so what should i do?
[15:11] <herol3oy> gordonjcp: (and the main problem is that i can not remove that email address?)
[15:13] <gordonjcp> herol3oy: ensure that your server is not being used to send spam, and wait it out...
[15:13] <Choofn> hello lads
[15:13] <Choofn> anyone on here
[15:14] <compdoc> who wants to know?
[15:14] <bgardner> Choofn: Maybe
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Choofn. yes , do you have a question ?
[15:14] <Nach0z> the NSA probably does, compdoc
[15:15] <Nach0z> seriously though there's probably NSA IRCds attached to every major IRC network :|
[15:15] <Nach0z> because most of them are foreign to some degree so that makes it "okay"
[15:16] <k1l_> Nach0z: would you mind to drop that topic into the offtopic channel?
[15:17] <bgardner> Go ahead with your question, Choofn
[15:17] <herol3oy> gordonjcp: so what do u think about the 2nd picure?
[15:18] <thurstylark> I want to mount a samba share using fstab and then prompt the user for the username and password for the share when it mounts. Is there a way to do this?
[15:19] <BluesKaj> Nach0z. guess theat makes me a "ferriner" :)
[15:19] <Nach0z> BluesKaj: D:<
[15:28] <Mattviapc> Hi
[15:28] <xyzwhatever> heeelp, what can I do if a software needs a certain package, but when I want to install it, it says this has been obsoleted?? ;(
[15:29] <Mattviapc> I am installing Ubuntu and it has asked me to install the grub boot loader on a hard disk. Is this safe if I have another hard drive running windows?
[15:29] <te> Mattviapc: It is safe
[15:30] <thurstylark> I want to mount a samba share using fstab and then prompt the user for the username and password for the share when it mounts. Is there a way to do this?
[15:30] <Mattviapc>  even if my windows hard drive is not plugged in at the moment?
[15:31] <te> Mattviapc: If your computer only boots to one hard drive, it is essential that grub be written to that main hard drive.  But either way, that is the best way.  It will over-write the MS-Windows boot loader but will also show an option to boot to MS-Windows each time you start your computer.
[15:33] <te> Mattviapc: Just now read your last response... It would have been better to have left that hard drive plugged in.  As it is, you may need to unplug the MS-Windows hard drive each time you boot to Ubuntu.
[15:41] <andi_> radeon: power state changed to D0
[15:42] <andi_> one more question: how can I suppress the login dialog completely, also after hibernate and sleep?
[15:45] <j2daosh> hey all. i need to install something that will easily allow me to monitor my home network. i have comcast internet and they just told me i hit the 300 GB cap, but i don't know which system(s) are causing the usage to be so high. so i need something that can monitor multiple systems (6 computers, 2 wii's, 4 cell phones, 2 tablets). i thought about using squid, but i don't know how i will get...
[15:45] <j2daosh> ...all the devices to connect through the proxy
[15:45] <Themus> Welcome Themus , now, you're operator ! Good luck for survive :)
[15:45] <Themus> I want to test my bot (it is a bot who op all people) ! Can you enter in my channel 2sec for test ? This is the #ALL-OP channel ! Thanks for you ;)
[15:45] <j2daosh> anyone know of any good open source tools that will allow me to do that? something like solar winds, but free for personal use would be great
[15:46] <Themus> Welcome SASDOE , now, you're operator ! Good luck for survive :)
[15:49] <qwe13> is it possible to install .deb packages using scp:// uri? like dpkg -i scp://host:/path/to/file.deb
[15:50] <IdleOne>  scp://host:/path/to/file.deb | sudo dpkg -i *.deb should work
[15:51] <prx> Hey, I recently changed nameservers for my domain, and i couldn't access it from my computer because the DNS is cached. I tried to flush it using "sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean restart
[15:51] <prx> " but i still cant access it. when i tried through proxy it works
[15:51] <malinus> qwe13, DON'T INSTALL ANYTHING FROM NOT THE REPO AND NOT TROUGH APT-GET
[15:51] <malinus> OFFICIAL #UBUNTU STATEMENT
[15:51] <IdleOne> !caps
[15:51] <faucon> where can i get quake pak files?
[15:51] <malinus> ubottu, it was just very important
[15:52] <IdleOne> malinus: no it wasn't.
[15:52] <malinus> ubottu, no you are not, lies
[15:52] <Frozen-Solid> i'm having some really weird networking issues and i have no idea what is wrong. it's an ubuntu vm, all the other vms on this host are working fine. but i can't ping anything.
[15:52] <prx> lol
[15:52] <Frozen-Solid> if anyone could help me troubleshoot i'd greatly appreciate it
[15:52] <qwe13> malinus why i can't install packages i've created myself?
[15:52] <malinus> qwe13, because it can mess up apt-get, also that's not my opinion but #ubuntu's
[15:53] <prx> qwe13, you sure can
[15:53] <IdleOne> qwe13: you can. malinus: please stop.
[15:53] <faucon> where can i get quake pak files? or direct me to the channel where i can find help about it.
[15:53] <prx> can anyone help me out here?
[15:53] <n008> ubottu shutdown
[15:53] <prx> IdleOne perhaps you :)
[15:53] <IdleOne> prx: no idea, sorry
[15:53] <faucon> prx: problem?
[15:53] <qwe13> the problem is that they were build on another host than the one i want to test them
[15:54] <somsip> prx: that will take time to propogate. You just have to wait
[15:54] <malinus> IdleOne, he *can* but when the cancer of apt-get start acting (and at some point it will). You will tell him "You shouldn't have installed anything not from the standard repo". And he will be sad. So I'm just preparing him.
[15:54] <jhutchins> qwe13: Of course you can install your own packages.  One of the advantages of the package management system is that you can fix it if your package breaks something.
[15:54] <prx> Hey, I recently changed nameservers for my domain, and i couldn't access it from my computer because the DNS is cached. I tried to flush it using "sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean restart" but i still cant access it. when i tried through proxy it works
[15:54] <jhutchins> qwe13: I'm not sure what remote options dpkg honors, but you can of course copy the package then install it.
[15:55] <IdleOne> malinus: he created the package himself, I think he understands the dangers. Now please stop trying to help be scaring people, because it doesn't help.
[15:55] <prx> somsip: usually, if i dont try to access the website before, it takes a few minutes, but since i accessed it, it remembers... anyone else who will now try to access the website will be able to do it
[15:56] <somsip> prx: The 'it' that remembers is different for different users/ISPs. http://is.gd/xZ6V08
[15:56] <IdleOne> qwe13: anyway, I don't think you can use dpkg -i that way. What you need to do is get the package you want to install to the system that it will be installed on. So, scp the package over and then dpkg -i
[15:57] <jhutchins> prx: I don't think anybody else knows what you're runnng for dns caching.
[15:57] <prx> The ISP's nameserver caches this value for usually about 4 hours so further queries are not required during that time.  The IP is returned to the client to use to access the server.
[15:57] <prx> thanks somsip :)
[15:57] <somsip> prx: np. Just give it time. It'll sort itself out.
[15:58] <qwe13> finally i realized the best way to ask google about it and then i've found http://askubuntu.com/questions/51854/is-it-possible-to-install-a-deb-from-a-url
[15:58]  * prx hates waiting :)
[15:59] <qwe13> hm... actually i can to make them available via http
[16:00] <jhutchins> prx: You could always use a google nameserver or something to get around the cache.
[16:00] <xyzwhatever> help
[16:00] <jhutchins> prx: 8.8.8.8 usually works.  CHange it in the /etc/resolve.conf and let it be overwritten next DHCP renewal.
[16:00] <somsip> !details | xyzwhatever
[16:01] <xyzwhatever> How can I add debian-ports repository to ubuntu??
[16:01] <bazhang> xyzwhatever, you dont
[16:01] <jhutchins> xyzwhatever: Very bad idea.
[16:01] <xyzwhatever> why not  I need some of these files
[16:01] <jhutchins> xyzwhatever: Then you should install a debian system with them.
[16:01] <xyzwhatever> ok :(
[16:02] <jhutchins> xyzwhatever: Mixing distributions breaks things.
[16:02] <prx> jhutchins, actually the 8.8.8.8 is already setup as the DNS on my router...
[16:02] <jhutchins> xyzwhatever: Remember my earlier warning about that site - it's not solid, well tested software.  It probably has some issues.
[16:03] <jhutchins> xyzwhatever: What arechitecture are you working with?
[16:03] <xyzwhatever> x64
[16:04] <jhutchins> xyzwhatever: That's ridiculous.  Use the main repos.  Whatever you're trying to do, that's not the right way to do it.
[16:05] <jhutchins> xyzwhatever: They don't even have an x64 repository.
[16:05] <xyzwhatever> lol
[16:06] <michagogo|cloud> I have a question about packages in the Ubuntu repos and upgrades to said packages
[16:06] <xyzwhatever> i guess their repo suckss big hairy donkey balls then :D
[16:06] <IdleOne> xyzwhatever: keep it clean please
[16:06] <michagogo|cloud> Looking at http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=bitcoin&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[16:07] <michagogo|cloud> How come Raring only has version 0.8.1, while saucy and trusty have version 0.8.5?
[16:07] <IdleOne> michagogo|cloud: because the raring package hasn't been updated to that newer version
[16:08] <michagogo|cloud> Well, yes
[16:08] <michagogo|cloud> I mean, why hasn't it been?
[16:08] <k1l_> michagogo|cloud: there are no updates besides security patches and massive bug patches after a final release of ubuntu (of course there are some exceptions)
[16:08] <michagogo|cloud> Ah.
[16:08] <IdleOne> michagogo|cloud: you can ask the maintainer of that package on launchpad.net
[16:08] <k1l_> michagogo|cloud: raring loses support in end of january 2014.
[16:08] <IdleOne> they might consider it if it is deemed necessary
[16:09] <Obi-Wan-Shinobi> Hi guys. I have a htpc I built currently running xbmc off the main HD, but I would like to install ubuntu onto a usb drive and manually load it to do some testing. Is a persistant live environment the solution, or is it possible/better to actual install ubuntu to the usb drive?
[16:09] <ubuntu960> how can I add an imap email account on online accounts on unity like I can with gnome?
[16:09] <prx> jhutchins: hey, /etc/resolve.conf is empty, should i really be editing it?
[16:10] <daftykins> */etc/resolv.conf
[16:11] <daftykins> Obi-Wan-Shinobi: no real difference between installing it vs. making it persistent, do whatever works
[16:11] <te> prx: Well, you need a nameserver
[16:12] <te> prx: if you are unable to resolve domain names, you probably need to add a nameserver line to it.  You could use:  nameserver 8.8.8.8
[16:12] <te> prx: ... but your router should have provided that infor for you, if the DHCP server is working properly.
[16:12] <daftykins> te: getting the filename wrong was probably more an indication of why it was empty :P
[16:12] <bindi> can I somehow play 2 channel audio to all channels?
[16:13] <tossaro> test
[16:13] <te> daftykins: /etc/resolv.conf  ?  Looks to me like you got it right.
[16:13] <daftykins> te: sure i did, but look at what prx said...
[16:14] <te> daftykins: Oh, I see.
[16:19] <DxN> Attempted to install ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a Dell inspiron 530.  I  can get it to install but once I actually login it appears that I have a video issue. The screen is pixilated about 80%, have attempted to re-install through usb and cd with no luck.
[16:20] <shams> hello friends, i suppose to make a swap file, by mistake i did a swap disk too. i want to remove the swap disk how do i do that, thanks. http://www.pasteall.org/pic/63836
[16:21] <prx> te: i am not unable to resolve domain names, its only the ones i recently changed their nameservers...  does adding 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' to the file is all i need to do?
[16:23] <shams> hello friends, i suppose to make a swap file, by mistake i did a swap disk too. i want to remove the swap disk how do i do that, thanks. http://www.pasteall.org/pic/63836
[16:23] <BluesKaj> DxN. drop to a virtual terminal , ctrl+alt +F1 - F6 ,login , then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade , once finished do ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to the desktop
[16:23] <ikonia> shams: swapoff the partition and remove the partition
[16:24] <shams> ikonia,  i am very new to ubuntu could you write the command  what exactly I should i type in terminal. thanks.
[16:25] <ikonia> shams: use the gui if you are not happy in the terminal
[16:25] <te> shams: he just did.
[16:29] <hggdh> BluesKaj: may I suggest *always* running 'apt-get dist-upgrade' instead of just an 'apt-get upgrade'. a simple 'upgrade will not install new packages, or remove obsolete ones
[16:30] <jhutchins> hggdh: In practice, the main thing that full- or dist- upgrades do that plain upgrades do not is upgrade the kernel.
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> I do an updgrade, then dist-upgrade :)
[16:31] <jhutchins> hggdh: In the normal lifecycle of the stable release packages are not replaced with different packages.
[16:32] <hggdh> jhutchins: yes, most of the times, I agree. Quite difficult for a new depends to happen in stable, but it does happen (when, for example, a missing depends for a weak dependency was not set)
[16:34] <BluesKaj> hggdh. dist-upgrades are are more necessary when running a devel OS rather than a stable release IME
[16:34] <hggdh> indeed
[16:37] <prx> jhutchins: please help me out, I really need to resolve this, and its not really working out for me
[16:38] <prx> what about adding dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 to /etc/network/interface* ?
[16:38] <te> prx: What is the problem?
[16:38] <te> prx: Are you unable to resovle domain names?
[16:38] <prx> te: i am trying to add the 8.8.8.8 dns servers in the simplest way possible
[16:39] <te> prx: edit /etc/resolv.conf and add line   nameserver 8.8.8.8
[16:39] <prx> te: i am able, but there are cached domains that i want to be resolved
[16:39] <prx> te: i did that, is there anything i need to restart or something?
[16:40] <te> prx: No, it just works.
[16:40] <te> prx: route -n   #What does that say?
[16:40] <te> prx: (What is your default gw?)
[16:41] <prx> 10.0.0.138
[16:41] <te> prx: What is your IP?   ifconfig eth0
[16:41] <mar77i> hmm. I seem to have missed something and still running a 32 bit kernel.
[16:42] <asteroid> ciao
[16:42] <prx> te: u mean wlan.. as i'm on wifi, 10.0.0.15
[16:42] <jon_davis> can some-one please help me install a program
[16:42] <prx> i've set it manually...
[16:42] <jon_davis> i need some one to remote me
[16:43] <te> prx: can you ping the your gateway router?  ping 10.0.0.138
[16:43] <mar77i> jon_davis: there are 1770 people who will answer smart questions from you. though I'm not sure that's going to happen. :)
[16:43] <prx> te: yes of course
[16:43] <mar77i> *the remote part, I mean
[16:43] <prx> te: DNS works, its just that 8.8.8.8 is not the one resolving
[16:43] <te> prx: host av.com   #Does that show you any IPs?
[16:44] <prx> te: yes, 82.98.86.166
[16:44] <te> prx: Are there any other nameserver lines in /etc/resolv.conf
[16:44] <ubuntu960> how can I add an imap email account on online accounts on unity like I can with gnome?
[16:44] <prx> te: can u type: host market-gurus.com
[16:44] <te> prx: Looks to me like you are resolvding domain names
[16:44] <jon_davis> i need to know how to upgrade a program calld cheese
[16:44] <prx> te: i told you i am
[16:45] <prx> te: i just need to resolve this cached one!$#@
[16:45] <te> market-gurus.com has address 89.187.85.247
[16:45] <jon_davis> and i cant to do it by my self
[16:45] <prx> te: see, i get 66.147.244.215
[16:45] <prx> te: i want to fix this.
[16:45] <te> prx: Maybe there is a proxy server you are going through?
[16:45] <prx> te: i know i can wait for tomorrow, but i want to fix it now
[16:45] <ubuntu960> jon_davis: go to the official site of the developer of your app and find the ubuntu ppa, install it and then update with software updater
[16:46] <prx> te: no, i am telling you, the address is cached, i need to change my DNS servers and then i will be able to get the correct ip
[16:46] <prx> te: when i use proxy, i can actually resolve it correctly
[16:46] <r0t3r> guys
[16:46] <te> prx: Change from __________?  To ______________?
[16:46] <jon_davis> i am on pepperment linux 4
[16:46] <r0t3r> gow can I reduce resolution below allowed one ?
[16:47] <te> prx: What country are you in?
[16:47] <ubuntu960> jon_davis: the process is the same
[16:47] <te> brb
[16:47] <prx> ok
[16:47] <hasan> hi
[16:47] <prx> dont understand why country matters :)
[16:47] <r0t3r> anyone ?
[16:47] <Guest45799> is there italian ubuntu channel?
[16:49] <shams> ikonia, that swap disk dose not show in GUI like Gparted, but when i do free -s it shows its there , http://www.pasteall.org/pic/63838
[16:50] <jennie> hello Walex here ?
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> !it | Guest45799
[16:50] <ikonia> shams: please put the output of "swapon -s" in a pastebin please, and take a screen shot of your gui and put it online somewhere
[16:51] <gr33n7007h> prx, what does this resolve to: host market-gurus.com 8.8.8.8
[16:51] <shams> both are here #ubuntu
[16:51] <shams> * ActionParsnip (~andy@ubuntu/member/actionparsnip) has joined #ubuntu
[16:51] <shams> * mynameisnotdave has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[16:52] <prx> gr33n7007h,  89.187.85.247
[16:52] <shams> http://www.pasteall.org/pic/63838
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> shams: huh?
[16:53] <shams> sorry first time pasted wrong link. this one is the screen shot http://www.pasteall.org/pic/63838
[16:53] <ikonia> shams: look on sdb
[16:54] <ikonia> shams: there are no linux partitions on sda - change the menu on the drop down in the top right of the gui to sdb
[16:54] <asteroid> ciao
[16:55] <prx> gr33n7007h, means that my dns is not going through 8.8.8.8
[16:56] <gr33n7007h> prx, yep
[16:57] <prx> gr33n7007h, should i set it as the DNS on my modem?
[16:57] <te> prx: I suppose it is possible you have a transparent proxy?
[16:58] <gr33n7007h> pry, try it, see what happens
[16:58] <ddd> any recommendations for a GUI twitter client? choqok keeps corrupting the server data
[16:59] <te> prx: Yea, most modems have a built in caching nameserver
[16:59] <ddd> i was going to use pdigin but mdpidgin doesn't correctly do oauth with the twitter PIN data
[16:59] <ddd> s/pdigin/pidgin/
[16:59] <prx> yey it worked :)
[17:00] <te> prx: So you can just change the nameserver line in /etc/resolv.conf (make sure it is the only one, or at least the first one).
[17:00] <te> prx: Ok good
[17:01] <prx> te: i did that and it didnt work, but changing it on the modem worked, actually on the router
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> ddd: gwibber....
[17:02] <ddd> thanks will search it out
[17:02] <te> prx: That is curious.  It has been my experience that what ever nameserver you put in /etc/resolv.conf is the one that is used.  (but that may not be the case if you have a transparent proxy, so, I dono).
[17:04] <prx> te and gr33n7007h  thanks for your help guys
[17:04] <prx> or gals
[17:05] <Walex> te: depends on which options you put in.
[17:05] <prx> ok now if anyone understands thunderbird, i need help :)
[17:05] <Walex> jennie: yes here.
[17:05] <knightshade> Hello
[17:06] <shams> ikonia, there is no other option at the top right of gui http://www.pasteall.org/pic/63839
[17:06] <te> Walex: true
[17:06] <dougl> how do I tell what libimobiledevice-utils package I have installed?
[17:06] <jennie> Walex: I have reinstalled everything , and printer is showing in ls /dev/usb
[17:06] <te> prx: Walex We can see what nameserver is really being used I think with nslookup
[17:06] <Kablam> hi guys im gonna install a machine for xbmc and im also gonna run rtorrent/rutorrent and samba on it any suggestions on wich version of ubuntu to use?? i want it boot straight up to xbmc dont need anything else?
[17:07] <jennie> sun@sun-desktop ~ $ ls /dev/usb/
[17:07] <jennie> lp0
[17:07] <asteroid> ciao
[17:07] <Walex> jennie: with GNU/LKinux systems reinstall is *almost* never needed.
[17:07] <ikonia> shams: is this a wubi install
[17:07] <te> nslookup av.com
[17:08] <Walex> jennie: to get back the '/dev/usb/lp0' almost surely a reboot was all that was needed, at most.
[17:08] <jennie> I tried rebooting and it didnt worked
[17:08] <jennie> so I had to reinstall
[17:08] <Walex> jennie: anyhow, you now have to reinstall and reconfigure the Canon driver...
[17:08] <jennie> ohh :-(
[17:09] <asteroid> italian
[17:09] <glitsj16> !it | asteroid
[17:10] <Walex> jennie: well if you reinstall what do you expect?
[17:10] <shams> ikonia, yes i have dual sys, window xp first then i installed ubuntu 12.04 from window .
[17:10] <asteroid> grazie
[17:11] <ikonia> shams: ok, I don't support wubi - but I wouldn't worry about the difference of a swap file or partition, as in wubi, they are both the same
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> shams: XP is dead on April 1st 2014 you know, just an FYI
[17:11] <knightshade> prx: I think that I can help you with thunderbird. Just ask your question.
[17:11] <jennie> Walex: please tell me again, I will fast
[17:12] <jennie> I will be fast*
[17:12] <glitsj16> shams: according to your http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=63838 paste you have 2 swap files if i read that correct
[17:12] <knightshade> jennie: which canon printer do you have?
[17:12] <shams> ActionParsnip, yes that is why i am trying to get familiar  with Linux , dont want any window any more .
[17:13] <shams> glitsj16, yes friend, i wanted to create a swap file not disk, but i did a swap disk too un knowingly now i want to delete that , dont know how.
[17:13] <jhutchins> jennie: What are you trying to do?
[17:13] <tigor> hello, I just added a facebook account on pidgin, but cannot enable the account. though I applied all settings given on ubuntu help pages
[17:14] <glitsj16> shams: where is the swap disk ? can't see it in your swapon -s .. are you sure?
[17:15] <jennie> knightshade: jhutchins MOdel of printer is CanonLBP2900B  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6556982/  is installation guide, I have downloaded drivers from here http://support-in.canon-asia.com/contents/IN/EN/0100459601.html which contains the guide I pasted and *.DEB files for installation
[17:15] <Walex> jennie:  form my history try: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6556988/
[17:16] <jennie> yes Walex I repasted it but I have re install CUPS again too http://paste.ubuntu.com/6556982/
[17:16] <Ham98> HEy guys, for some reason Im not getting ANY radio staions in Rythmbox Im currently connected to the internet but no radio stations are loading  ANy ideas?
[17:17] <shams> glitsj16,  one sec, here , http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=63840
[17:18] <te> shams: As we see from the screenshot, you are using a swap file, (not swap partition).
[17:19] <glitsj16> shams: well, they both have the type 'file', if you had a swap disk that would show as type 'partition' .. that's why i asked whether you actually have a swap disk
[17:20] <jennie> Walex: I did sun@sun-desktop ~ $ sudo apt-get install cups
[17:20] <glitsj16> shams: could you paste your /etc/fstab please? just to confirm
[17:20] <te> shams: pastebinit /etc/fstab  #Send resulting URL here
[17:21] <te> shams: We could also have a look at your partitions:
[17:21] <jon__> jennie asl
[17:21] <te> shams: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[17:21] <glitsj16> te: could you guide shams with this? gotta mind my cats for a few minutes ..
[17:22] <te> glitsj16: Ok
[17:22] <glitsj16> te: cheers
[17:22] <Ham98> For some reason Im not getting ANY radio stations in Rythmbox Im currently connected to the internet but no radio stations are loading  ANy ideas?
[17:22] <IsmAvatar> Hey guys, I just updated, which included an ubuntu update, and it broke the Flash plugin. I tried downloading the latest from their website but it only seems to let me download a .RPM
[17:22] <IsmAvatar> er
[17:23] <IsmAvatar> included a firefox update*
[17:23] <te> IsmAvatar: Just get the generic one, unpack and move libflashplayer.so to /var/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[17:24] <te> IsmAvatar: sorry, it's  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[17:25] <te> IsmAvatar: What kind of update was it?
[17:25] <te> IsmAvatar: (update for ________?)
[17:25] <shams> te, i see, so is that ok living that the way it is , http://www.pasteall.org/pic/63842
[17:25] <jon__> any linux females in here
[17:26] <k1l_> jon__: this is not a dating channel. please stick to ubuntu support in here. for regular chatting we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:27] <te> shams: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:27] <compdoc> Ive yet to see any person, male or female, that is an operating system
[17:28] <Walex> jennie: so which point have got to, out of curiosity?
[17:29] <IsmAvatar> te: It was just the update manager running, which updated Google Crome and Firefox
[17:29] <jennie> I just installed CUPS
[17:29] <Walex> jennie: then continue with the rest...
[17:29] <Walex> jennie: in the paste that I linked to...
[17:29] <jennie> ok Walex
[17:29] <shams> te, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6557033/
[17:30] <te> shams: Is your Ubuntu install wubi?
[17:31] <te> shams: (I must assume it is wubi because you have no Linux partitions.)
[17:31] <shams> te, yes i installed it from window, if that is called wubi :)
[17:32] <te> shams: Ok. Yea.  That is it "wubi".
[17:32] <te> shams: So, what is the problem you are really trying to install?
[17:32] <shams> te, ok i am using dual boot sys.
[17:32] <te> shams: And.... ?
[17:33] <te> shams: (not sure I understand what you are tying to do, or what problem you are trying to solve)
[17:33] <shams> te, i was trying to use swap file because inspit of having 4gh i am crashing on rendering blender scene which i should not its such a small scene. shows i am running out of memory.
[17:33] <shams> te, so i tried to use swap file.
[17:33] <jennie> Walex: please look http://paste.ubuntu.com/6557049/
[17:33] <shams> te, but accidentally i created one swap disk too.
[17:34] <Walex> jennie: that's fine, '/dev/usb/lp0' is the right device name then.
[17:34] <jennie> should I run next command then ?
[17:34] <shams> te, i just want to remove that swap disk which i created. beside a swapfile.
[17:34] <te> shams: My advice to you is to do a regular Ubuntu install.
[17:34] <Walex> jennie: yes.
[17:35] <shams> te, can it be done while having dual boot sys ?
[17:35] <matt____1> D/aryl
[17:35] <jennie> Walex: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6557064/
[17:35] <shams> te, if yes then how , you mean i should creat one installation disk and boot from it ?
[17:36] <te> shams: You have not created a swap partition, (you only made space for one), so what you have is some free space, (about 10G if I remember correctly).
[17:36] <shams> te, yes
[17:36] <Bodsda> soutar
[17:37] <yxs_> ?
[17:38] <te> shams: Best thing to do is resize sda5, (shrink it down to about half it's size, or maybe even less), and then boot the Ubuntu install media and do a regular ubuntu install. BUT, I understand that wubi has provisions for doing a regular install from it's own interface, (I've not used wubi so I can not speak from experience).
[17:38] <IsmAvatar> te: Ok, I've done what you said and copied over the .so file, but it's still crashing
[17:39] <shams> te, i guess i should install a regular one as you suggested, but i want to keep the window too for the moment. it saves me from the nightmare because of new to Linux, and can i restore my backup after a regular installation ?
[17:39] <te> shams: I'm seeing http://askubuntu.com/questions/635/how-to-convert-wubi-install-into-regular-install
[17:39] <Walex> jennie: put in "libglade2-0" instead
[17:39] <jennie> Walex: what to do about this ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6557064/
[17:40] <te> IsmAvatar: Do you have chrome or chromium?
[17:40] <jennie> ok Walex it is downloading
[17:40] <mernilio> Hi all! :-)
[17:40] <shams> te, cool, i will go there now :) thank you te
[17:41] <IsmAvatar> te: I have chromium, but the plugin is crashing in firefox.
[17:41] <mernilio> I dont know, but im banned from "ubuntu-offtopic" .. how is that possible?
[17:41] <Walex> mernilio: address matches a ban mask
[17:41] <hitsujiTMO> mernilio: ask in #ubuntu-ops
[17:41] <mernilio> Walex: hmm.. speak english.. i dont know what a ban mask is?
[17:42] <mernilio> hitsujiTMO: oki
[17:42] <mernilio> thanks
[17:42] <te> shams: You might look at a couple of the others that google came up with:  http://www.bing.com/search?q=convert%20wubi%20to%20full%20install&pc=conduit&ptag=AED4AAE9050EC422EA3F&form=CONBNT&conlogo=CT3210127
[17:42] <IsmAvatar> te: I've just tried in Chromium and it crashes there as well.
[17:42] <te> IsmAvatar: Sometimes it complains that it needs an update but will work anyway.
[17:42] <te> IsmAvatar: What version of Ubuntu do you have?
[17:43] <IsmAvatar> te: nope. It just stopped responding and then Chromium said that the page died.
[17:43] <IsmAvatar> te: 13.10
[17:43] <te> IsmAvatar: what page are you trying to view?
[17:43] <IsmAvatar> te: any youtube video
[17:43] <te> IsmAvatar: I'm a LTS user.
[17:44] <shams> te, you said i should shrink it down, but i need more space for Linux, can i install more software and run big programs even if the Ubuntu installation disk size is small, i guess i will have to setup home directory to another partition i guess , right ?
[17:44] <te> IsmAvatar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[17:45] <te> shams: You'll need more that 10G for sure.
[17:45] <IsmAvatar> te: says flashplugin-installer is already the newest version.
[17:45] <te> shams: Set asside free space, just shrink sda5 more, (a lot more).
[17:45] <kostkon> IsmAvatar, reinstall the package
[17:46] <te> shams: Set asisde 100G or more (since your HD is 500G, I would say 200G or 250G  if you can spare it).
[17:47] <te> shams: If you turn out to be like most of the rest of us, you'll find that you mostly end up using Linux.
[17:47] <IsmAvatar> kostkon: resintalled the package. Same crash.
[17:48] <te> IsmAvatar: You might try dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-installer
[17:48] <shams> te, ok so here is what i understand, keep 250G aside, and maybe 1g another side, and the Linux i will install on 1g where my other data will be on the other side 250 G , did i understand right . ?
[17:48] <quinman22> does anyone know why the grub2 conf files are prefixed with numbers? What is the significance behind them if any?
[17:48] <te> IsmAvatar: sudo dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-installer
[17:50] <shams> te, so 10G + 250 Total 260 for Linux , right ?
[17:50] <te> shams: All I said was;  To make free space for the Linux install, shrink sda5 so that you have about 200-250G free space, (unallocated), and you can install Linux on that free or "unallocated" space.
[17:51] <IsmAvatar> te: it asks me for the directory of the file, so I tell it "/home/ismavatar/Downloads" where the file is located and it says it can't find it there.
[17:51] <shams> te, ok i got it now.
[17:52] <te> shams: Forget the 10G, (10G is what you have now, (unallocated), you want more, so shrink sda5 so that you have 100 or 200 or 250G of free space (unallocated).
[17:52] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> Hi, Empathy doesn´t connect to MSN hotmail account, any suggestions ? (using Lucid Lynx)
[17:52] <IsmAvatar> te: just left it blank and it seems to have done its thing
[17:52] <IsmAvatar> te: still crashing
[17:52] <shams> ok
[17:53] <te> IsmAvatar: "it asks" ?  (Who is "it"?)
[17:53] <IsmAvatar> dpkg-reconfigure has a prompt
[17:53] <glitsj16> quinman22: the logic behind that is explained in the README in the same directory
[17:53] <Walex> jennie: so it should be finished now...
[17:53] <jsm> is there a way to fork a PPA?
[17:54] <jennie> Walex: it is unpacking
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: Lucid is no longer supported on the desktop. It is only supported on the server
[17:56] <te> IsmAvatar: You may need to just uninstall flashplayer and start over
[17:56] <Walex> jennie: that must be a very very slow system.
[17:57] <jennie> the internet was slow , now it is setting up lib* files
[17:57] <te> IsmAvatar: With what, I dono.  Flashplayer is just a problem. (I use LTS and don't seem to have a problem.... yet...).
[17:57] <Capprentice> Install Google Chrome.
[17:58] <hid> Never install chrome
[17:58] <Capprentice> Google Chrome comes with its own version of Chrome !
[17:58] <Capprentice> I mean Flash
[17:58] <Capprentice> :P
[17:58] <te> Capprentice: You mean... yea
[17:59] <IsmAvatar> te: yeah, I haven't had many issues with it up until today's update to firefox
[18:00] <te> IsmAvatar: I suppose you could revert to the older version of firefox
[18:00] <te> IsmAvatar: But you'd have to install it manually, not that hard but...
[18:00] <Capprentice> Install Seamonkey then.
[18:00] <te> IsmAvatar: And I don't even know if that would fix it, but might.
[18:00] <Capprentice> Seamonkey is based on Firefox !
[18:00] <te> Yea, there is also Seamonkey.
[18:01] <te> Capprentice: Actually, it is the other way around.
[18:01] <te> Capprentice: Netscape became Mozilla which became Seamonkey.
[18:01] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> ActionParsnip, is one smart Guy, tells me to upgrade, and buy a software+documentation bundle in Ubuntu Store--- 10 million dollars can´t do it...
[18:01] <te> afaik
[18:02] <te> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: Geting some good free advise?
[18:03] <jennie> Walex: sudo lpstat -a sun@sun-desktop ~/Desktop/Linux_CAPT_PrinterDriver_V260_uk_EN/64-bit_Driver/Debian $ sudo lpstat -a       lpstat: No destinations added.
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: Ubuntu is free
[18:04] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> te, there is no knowledge... , in Ubuntu rooms..
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: there is, your release isnt supported
[18:05] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> yeah, you tell me to upgrade ?
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: call Microsoft for support with Window 2000, ask for support. What will happen?
[18:05] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> Action ?
[18:05] <te> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: What version do you have installed?
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: if you want support from the community and package upgrades, yes
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: the OS willrun forever but its not supported naywhere
[18:06] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> never mind, sorry for disturbing...
[18:06] <jacko4323> hello all I have an Ubunto Workstation that is used for a backup drive. Every once in a while it will lockup. I can ping it but nothing else. I would like to run a file system check but im new to linux. Can someone tell me the command to run i know its fsck but what switches do i use
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: so, lots of knowledge in here
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: just because your release is dead doesnt mean we dont know
[18:07] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> yup, you are right ActionParsnip...
[18:07] <xangua> !eol | Lucid_Lynx_LTS
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> jacko4323: you'll want to fsck in liveCD, or have the partition you are checking unmounted
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: you can upgrade to Precise in one jump as it is LTS to LTS upgrade
[18:07] <jacko4323> ok i am connected remotely to this machine via vnc is there anything i can do remotely.
[18:08] <mernilio> Hi all.. its stupid but its to slippery for me to go outside.. I sound like a old man but its really difficult.
[18:08] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> thank you very much for your advise, ActionParsnip ^, i remember this kind of advice from years ago, nothing ever changed in your attitude...
[18:08] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> nvm.., bye
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: its channel policy
[18:10] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> I don´t try to argue anymore..., ActionParsnip.., its like grasping a hand full of water...
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: its simple, if you are using a supported release you are supported here. When the release dies you are not. If you upgrade or install Precise you will get full support and updates ytil April 2017
[18:12] <Walex> jennie: I'll be back in an hour or two
[18:12] <hitsujiTMO> Lucid_Lynx_LTS: to actually answer your question. The version of empathy you are running most likely does not support the current protocol. you will need to upgrade the OS to get a version of empathy that does support it ( Considering that it was changed to Windows Live)
[18:12] <Walex> jennie: that is because the server is not stated yet IIRC
[18:13] <jennie> Walex: so what to do now ?
[18:13] <jennie> next command ?
[18:15] <armenb> hello
[18:15] <quinman22> glitsj16: not sure why i didn't check, thank you
[18:16] <armenb> Is there a repository on the web that points to 12.04.2 LTS?
[18:16] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> I have to drink it..., but who will tell me ? , i might die in the intent to bath in water, instead of drinking it, not knowing that it is for drinking .., thanks for trying
[18:16] <glitsj16> quinman22: easily overlooked, you're welcome
[18:16] <hitsujiTMO> armenb: they all do
[18:16] <armenb> I have reason to believe that a change was made in the current version of some package in 12.04.3 LTS, and it's breaking functionality.  I'd really like to go back to 12.04.2 LTS, if for nothing else than to systematically figure out what the problem is
[18:17] <armenb> right now I can download 12.04.2 LTS iso and install it, but when I need to install some packages not on the ISO, I get newer 12.04.3 LTS packages and their deps.  I'd really like to peg the repo to some date in the past.  Does this functionality exist?
[18:19] <compdoc> they seem to force you to upgrade the packages to keep you safe. damn them!
[18:19] <armenb> so I'm not damning anybody
[18:19] <DJones> !pinning | armenb
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> armenb: what packages in particular are you having a problem with?
[18:20] <armenb> that is an excellent question: I am not sure.
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> armenb: whats breaking?
[18:20] <armenb> somewhere in ssl/tls/dtls
[18:20] <armenb> I can't set up webrtc sessions: dtls negotiation is failing with chrome browsers
[18:21] <armenb> it used to work fine, and does on systems that we haven't apt-get dist-upgraded in a Really Long Time
[18:21] <armenb> (circa 12.04.2 LTS timeframe)
[18:21] <armenb> brb, bus
[18:22] <armenb> more lke bbiab
[18:22] <hitsujiTMO> armenb: have you looked at a wireshark trace?
[18:28] <bindi> can I somehow play 2 channel audio to all channels?
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> bindi: i thought that was default
[18:30] <bindi> ActionParsnip: not in 12.04 anyway
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> bindi: hence the Q and E controlls in alsamixer
[18:31] <bindi> I am using optical, alsamixer doesnt do anything on any of the controls
[18:31] <bindi> forgot to mention that :p
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> bindi: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[18:31] <bindi> ill get to you in a moment, gotta brb quickly, sorry :p
[18:37] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone I am trying to build a kernel and I'm getting this error during build, "install: cannot change owner and permissions of ‘/home/ripthejacker/builds/linux-3.11.0/debian/linux-image-3.11.7-11-12-13/etc/kernel/postinst.d’: Operation not permitted
[18:39] <ripthejacker> what can be the problem
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> ripthejacker: tip: there's also #ubuntu-kernel
[18:40] <bindi> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=6ff6b5be0e5d63c39a0e2213d10498dc550a392f
[18:41] <ripthejacker> MonkeyDust: Thanks, but if nobody responds there, can I come back and ask here?
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> bindi: have you ran the large command in step 1 here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[18:42] <bindi> ActionParsnip: no, what does it do?
[18:42] <bindi> my sound works otherwise
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> bindi: updates Alsa to a newer version
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> !away > dean|away
[18:47] <tirengarfio> I have an external disk, when I connect it, it is shown in Disks utility, but then it dissapear, I have just bought it
[18:48] <LyzardKing> does anyone know where I can find the acpi handler=
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> tirengarfio: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[18:48] <LyzardKing> it whould be in /etc/acpi/handler.sh
[18:48] <tirengarfio> Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l ActionParsnip
[18:48] <ggherdov> Hello, what was the trick to watch mms:// videos on ubuntu (aka MS Silverlight) ?
[18:48] <ggherdov> One part of me says "moonlight" http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight , but the other me screams "how do I install it on ubuntu" -- any hint?
[18:49] <Pici> ggherdov: I thought VLC could play mms streams...
[18:49] <DJones> ggherdov: I think the moonlight project had been dropped
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> ggherdov: mms will play in VLC too, its just a media stream and not specifically silverlight
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> DJones: it has, the sooner it crawls aeway the better :)
[18:50] <tirengarfio> ActionParsnip, any idea?
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> tirengarfio: have you used it in any other systems?
[18:51] <ggherdov> Pici: ActionParsnip: thanks. ok, I was ahead of myself. What I have is indeed a webpage saying "go get silverlight". I *suppose* that somewhere hidden there is a mms:// URL, but the easiest way for me would be to have that page to... just work.
[18:51] <tirengarfio> No
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> tirengarfio: does the partition show in gparted?
[18:52] <ggherdov> BTW, yes it has been dropped. I remember the announcement somwhere signed by Miguel De Icaza or his team
[18:52]  * ggherdov wait, probably... even Silverlight has been dropped.
[18:52] <tirengarfio> the disk is shown in gparted yes
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> tirengarfio: then format it to Ext4 and Enjoy. If you need to use it in Windows then connect it to a Windows PC and format it to NTFS
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> tirengarfio: remember to use the safe remove feature BEFORE unplugging for significantly fewer issues
[18:57] <tirengarfio> ActionParsnip, I have run gparted and then choose the external disk, and then create partition table, and it says: "Warning: This will erase all data on the entire disk /dev/sdb" Default is to create a ms-dos partition table. There is a select with this options: "msdos, aix, amiga, bsd, dvh, gpt, mac, pc98, sun and loop", should I apply or choose an option different from ms-dos?
[19:03] <vmuser> where is remmina log?
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> vmuser: try     locate remmina | less       to find out
[19:05] <luca> ciao
[19:06] <vmuser> MonkeyDust, nothing there
[19:09] <pngl> What is the shortcut for showing the fullscreen terminals? I think it is something-F6, F7, ..., but I don't remember the name of those terminals so I can't google it
[19:09] <Pici> pngl: ctrl-alt-F# use F7 to get back to X
[19:10] <Pici> pngl: where # is a number
[19:10] <pngl> Pici: thanks. What is the name of the feature (in case I forget it again) ?
[19:10] <Pici> pngl: ttys
[19:10] <pngl> Pici: thank you!
[19:12] <SwashBuckla> hi there. I can log in to all other accounts  but my own on my Ubuntu 12.04 system. I initially thought it was a password problem, but no, I can sudo su into the account from another. It's only GUI login that doesn't work. By "doesn't work" I mean "Authenticates the login and then presents a black screen for a few seconds, and then returns me to the login screen"
[19:13] <mikodo> To practice and be able to follow online directions, can Minimal CD's be installed in VirtualBox? My one computer won't boot from usb, BIOS does not support it. I guess I could use Plop
[19:13] <SwashBuckla> let's call the malfunctioning admin account foo, while I can log into admin accounts bar, baz, and Guest account
[19:13] <Pici> mikodo: yes, vbox can boot from iso images.
[19:13] <SwashBuckla> I can log into foo from bar and baz
[19:14] <mikodo> Pici, Great! Thank you.
[19:16] <Actionparsnip> Has the lag lessened?
[19:17] <SwashBuckla> any ideas as to the problem?
[19:17] <SwashBuckla> some diagnostic commands so that I can help myself would be appreciated
[19:17] <SwashBuckla> lightdm is functioning okay
[19:17] <SwashBuckla> as is fglrx
[19:18] <SwashBuckla> no, sorry, not fglrx, I'm just using the open source driver
[19:27] <urielvigilant> To install lubuntu-fake-pae is the same way as any other Lubunyu doesnt ? download iso here http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu-fake-pae/ then burn iso on DVD or USB and then test and them install ?
[19:29] <urielvigilant> I think acer 3003 wmli dont run Lubuntu up then 12.04 because it dont have PAE. AMD Mobile Sempron 3100+ does it have PAE ?
[19:30] <michagogo|cloud> Question: I've read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[19:30] <gordonjcp> urielvigilant: install from the mini iso
[19:30] <michagogo|cloud> Does that policy also forbid the removal of a package from older releases?
[19:31] <michagogo|cloud> (specifically, a package in the Universe, not Main or Restricted)
[19:33] <zorin> I need MITM help
[19:34] <urielvigilant> gordonjcp : ive been reading this explanation, and it seems to be something to experienced people install doesn it , the mini iso ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE#Method_to_start_from_the_Ubuntu_12.04_non-PAE_mini-iso_file_described_by_m.2BAPY-rg.2BAOY-s
[19:35] <gordonjcp> urielvigilant: depends
[19:35] <urielvigilant> gordonjcp : i dont do minimum idea about this ---- Disadavantages " from same webpage " : You need to install fake-pae using 7bit's ppa after the installation
[19:36] <Mongo44> When I am downloading a package what do I do with the key fingerprint?
[19:36] <urielvigilant> gordonjcp what it is it 7bitsś ppa ?
[19:36] <gordonjcp> urielvigilant: pretty sure that mini doesn't require PAE
[19:37] <urielvigilant> gordonjcp : what are the mais disadvantages of te solution 3 . . . that one i come here to ask about it ?
[19:38] <urielvigilant> gordonjcp : what are the disadvantages of this one Lubuntu 13.04 Fake-PAE ?
[19:38] <gordonjcp> no idea, never tried it
[19:38] <urielvigilant> seems ease to install doens it ?
[19:39] <urielvigilant> just burn to cd or usb pen drive doens it ?
[19:39] <hitsujiTMO> urielvigilant: its quite messy. I had to help someone fix a lot of issues with it
[19:40] <acidhax> Did something happen to Ubuntu recently that caused my wifi to go about 1,000bytes per second?
[19:41] <urielvigilant> hitsujiTMO : do you meand with this Lubuntu 13.04 Fake-PAE ?
[19:41] <acidhax> I've disabled ipv6, i've installed wircd and still slow as hell.. I'm on an RTL adapter.
[19:41] <acidhax> wircd/wicd
[19:41] <subz3r0> yep, new ubuntu versions are located in a metal fling cabinet...
[19:41] <hitsujiTMO> urielvigilant:Yes.  for some reason that lubuntu fake pae doens't install this patch: https://launchpad.net/~prof7bit/+archive/fake-pae which its actually based on.
[19:42] <hitsujiTMO> urielvigilant: its an image made using the patch but doesn't have the patch installed.
[19:42] <urielvigilant> hitsujiTMO : so the solution will be mini iso doesn it ?
[19:43] <hitsujiTMO> urielvigilant: if you can boot a non pae kernel you could do a debootstrap install and also install https://launchpad.net/~prof7bit/+archive/fake-pae
[19:43] <zorin> does anybody know about man in the middle with ubuntu?
[19:44] <acidhax> Any idea why my wifi has suddenly shit the bed?
[19:45] <subz3r0> zorin: a man in the middle is. when e.g someone is between you and your boy/girl-friend. "in the middle"..
[19:45] <subz3r0> also called sandwich
[19:45] <urielvigilant> hitsujiTMO : i dont have idea what that it is !
[19:45] <ses1984> hi, i'm trying to do a favor for friend to clean his computer from malware, but it's been so long since i've had to do that, i'm not sure what software works for that these days, especially on linux
[19:46] <hitsujiTMO> urielvigilant: what version of ubuntu are you trying to install?
[19:46] <subz3r0> acidhax: do you really expect an answer on a such unspecific question?
[19:46] <ses1984> is there a malware removal tool that will scan for virsuses and such, and in addition to that, spyware/adware that would normally be covered by tools like spybot, malwarebytes, etc?
[19:46] <acidhax> subz3r0: Yesterday: Internet good. Today: internet bad.
[19:46] <xangua> !virus | ses1984
[19:46] <subz3r0> acidhax: so go figure it out yourself
[19:46] <acidhax> go die
[19:46] <hitsujiTMO> ses1984: for malware/virus/rootkit or any of the like, i'll always recommend a clean install
[19:47] <subz3r0> acidhax: get a brain, retard.
[19:47] <acidhax> still, go die
[19:47] <acidhax> or stfu and help, your choice
[19:47] <ses1984> hitsujiTMO: well, even if i do perform a clean install, he had a backup drive connected to the live system that he's going to want to start restoring stuff from right away, so i still need to scan that
[19:48] <subz3r0> acidhax: i dont help any brainfucked scumbags. got it? fine!
[19:48] <IdleOne> hey, that is about enough from both of you
[19:48] <nightmare365> Hi my unity-launcher is behaving wierdly
[19:48] <IdleOne> !guidelines | subz3r0 acidhax
[19:48] <gordonjcp> !attitude | acidhax
[19:49] <gordonjcp> !language | subz3r0
[19:49] <nightmare365> The unlock from launcher isn't working
[19:49] <nightmare365> And I can't rearrange the icons
[19:50] <acidhax> sorry, subz3r0, i love you.
[19:50] <nightmare365> And I have restarted a few times
[19:50] <n008> must all containers share same Os?
[19:51] <n008> unlike an Hypervisor where different os sits on same machine?
[19:51] <nightmare365> Resetting compiz and unity icons doesn't help
[19:51] <subz3r0> n008: i dont get the pont?
[19:51] <subz3r0> point
[19:51] <michagogo|cloud> !precise
[19:51] <michagogo|cloud> !lts
[19:51] <subz3r0> n008: containers for what?
[19:51] <michagogo|cloud> So Precise is supported until April 2017?
[19:51] <n008> subz3r0: for vertualization
[19:52] <hedonismbot_> t
[19:52] <nightmare365> Was trying to enable the hibernate option and now I have a broken desktop :(
[19:52] <jfreak53> .
[19:52] <n008> subz3r0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LXC
[19:52] <subz3r0> n008: you can setup a container for every os you install in most virtualisation software
[19:53] <n008> can multiple Os seat within a container?
[19:53] <hedonismbot_> Every time I try to connect to openvpn i get "invalid VPN secrets". I'm using 12.04 LTS
[19:53] <subz3r0> n008: ahh... LCX... thought youre talking about vmware, virtualbox ...
[19:53] <subz3r0> never worked with lcx. so no idea
[19:54] <jond> Does anybody know any replacement for cheese for peperment linux 4
[19:54] <subz3r0> n008: did you read: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/lxc.html
[19:54] <urielvigilant> hitsujiTMO i need an alternative solution after aprill , when Lubuntu 12.04 will not have more support . I heard about bohdi linux, but this computer is of friend of mine, iam newby and he is more then newbyy! his computer acer 3003 wmli dont work with lubuntu 12.10 nether 13.04 nether 13.10 , i think its because amd sempron  doenst have PAE
[19:55] <Bower> i experienced some server issues and the short of it is that i have a file owned by "1066" which i cannot remove even as root. any way around this?
[19:56] <bindi> Actionparsnip1: did the long command (alsa), what now?
[19:56] <urielvigilant> hitsujiTMO i need something simple like just burn to DVD or creat a USB pen drive persistent to test then full install dual boot because he have windows on it
[19:57] <MonkeyDust_> !usb | urielvigilant
[19:57] <bindi> Actionparsnip1: no sound at all, for starters :P
[19:57] <urielvigilant> !usb
[19:57] <hitsujiTMO> urielvigilant: if its the case that you don't have PAE at all then you will need to use a custom kernel that has non-PAE support. you could try an older mainline or current mainline if that does have pae support but again would involve a debootstrap install
[19:57] <bindi> Actionparsnip1: woops, wrong output, fixed that part
[19:58] <urielvigilant> hitsujiTMO  what it is a debootstrap install and how to do it ?
[19:58] <jond> what is the best video editing for linux pepperment 4 os
[19:58] <urielvigilant> !debootstrap
[19:58] <profligacy> That may have been the older version.
[19:58] <profligacy> What about the newest version of the softrware, though?
[19:58] <profligacy> *software
[19:58] <subz3r0> Bower: i dont remember exactly but there are different flags you can set. not just SUID, SGID and Sticky... so you wont be able to delete it. even as root... maybe anyone else here knows em
[19:58] <profligacy> Are there any updates for it?
[19:59] <profligacy> I think they said that they were going to come out with a fix mid-December.
[19:59] <jond> hello i have ask yall?s
[19:59] <profligacy> If I remember correctly.
[20:00] <urielvigilant> hitsujiTMO  it have  Lubuntu 12.04  dual boot with windows XP . How to do a debootstrap on it ?
[20:00] <hitsujiTMO> urielvigilant: it's effective a manual install. Here's a decent video guide http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiM9GOKvTI4   with that you could simply install any kernel you choose
[20:00] <jond> video editing for linux
[20:00] <Bower> thanks subz3r0. it's not a major issue, just a minor annoyance
[20:00] <bindi> Actionparsnip1: i need alsa to upmix to all channels
[20:01] <hitsujiTMO> urielvigilant: if you want a simple approach then you'll best find an alternative distribution
[20:01] <jond> can some-one help me
[20:02] <jond> video editing for linux
[20:02] <hitsujiTMO> jond: try ##linux
[20:02] <jond> what is the best one
[20:02] <MonkeyDust_> jond: best depends on what you prefer
[20:03] <urielvigilant> histujiTMO
[20:03] <urielvigilant> histujiTMO thanks for all
[20:03] <jond> am on peperment os 4
[20:04] <MonkeyDust_> jond: better aks in their own channel, it's not supported here
[20:05] <urielvigilant> Its to much dangerous stay with  Lubuntu 12.04 after april on it ?
[20:05] <MonkeyDust_> urielvigilant: dangerous?
[20:05] <MonkeyDust_> urielvigilant: 12.04 is supported until 2017
[20:06] <gigus> salve a tutti
[20:06] <hitsujiTMO> MonkeyDust_: Lubuntu is 12.04 is not LTS tho
[20:08] <hitsujiTMO> urielvigilant: i wouldn't consider it crazy dangerous to stay but you might start running into issues after a while
[20:08] <hitsujiTMO> urielvigilant: most of the saoftware will still receive security updates. main issue will be with the DE
[20:09] <mustmodify> I have ubuntu set up with SFTP... chrooted accounts for vendors. And I get a question from them "What is name of SFTP Client software that will be hosting the connection?" ..... is "Ubuntu" too much of a smart-ass answer?
[20:10] <jond> Peppermint Linux OS is a cloud-centric OS based on Lubuntu, a derivative of the Ubuntu Linux operating system that uses the LXDE desktop environment.[1]
[20:10] <jond> can some-one just help me out
[20:10] <Pici> jond: And it is not supported here.
[20:10] <Pici> jond: Please ask in ##linux, which exists for this sort of thing.
[20:11] <urielvigilant> hitsujiTMO what  it is DE ?
[20:11] <hitsujiTMO> mustmodify: what package did you install for sftp support? openssh-server?
[20:11] <michagogo|cloud> Do packages ever get pulled out of the Ubuntu repositories? If so, under what circumstances?
[20:12] <hitsujiTMO> urielvigilant: desktop environment. in your case LXDE
[20:12] <Quest> how to mount an .iso or dvd image to a dvd virtual partiton so that I can use it just like a dvd inserted?
[20:12] <jond> @drmanhattan
[20:12] <jond> pm me
[20:13] <urielvigilant> hitsujiTMO could be  a solution try  install Ubuntu environment desktop on this lubuntu ?
[20:13] <jond> i may need yr help better than some people on here
[20:13] <gordonjcp> Quest: mount -o loop thing.iso /path/to/mountpoint
[20:13] <hitsujiTMO> !loop | Quest
[20:13] <SwashBuckla> hi there. I can log in to all other accounts  but my own on my Ubuntu 12.04 system. I initially thought it was a password problem, but no, I can sudo su into the account from another. It's only GUI login that doesn't work. By "doesn't work" I mean "Authenticates the login and then presents a black screen for a few seconds, and then returns me to the login screen"
[20:15] <leptone> why am i getting these errors
[20:15] <leptone> ?
[20:15] <leptone> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6557764/
[20:16] <Pici> michagogo|cloud: Not in the middle of a release, but if something gets deprecated then it will be removed from the next release and there will be a note left on the publishing history. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ircii-pana/+publishinghistory for example.
[20:16] <michagogo|cloud> Pici: I found out that #ubuntu-motu exists, which I suspect is more relevant in this case
[20:16] <hitsujiTMO> SwashBuckla: dod you go playing around with compiz fusion config? or try to launch X apps with sudo?     can you pastebin the output of /home/yourusername/.xsession-errors
[20:19] <hitsujiTMO> urielvigilant: i'd stay with the lxde DE if I were you. Wait till you start actually having problems before swapping DEs. For a supported alternative there's also Xubuntu/XFCE
[20:20] <leptone> following this article do i need to replace the "Section "Device"" bit that is already in the file. or do i just add it?
[20:20] <leptone> http://linuxg.net/fix-slow-graphics-performance-on-ubuntu-13-04-intel-gpu/
[20:23] <Quest> gordonjcp,  hitsujiTMO  i did mount -o loop but it didnt showed up in virtualbox cdrom boot options
[20:24] <Beldar> leptone, You have /etc/X11/xorg.conf as of now?
[20:24] <urielvigilant> hitsujiTMO , thanks
[20:25] <leptone> beldar. i have?
[20:25] <leptone> i just followed the article
[20:25] <Beldar> leptone, Check if you have one, this is not included I believe on installs?
[20:25] <leptone> yeah but the first thing is to creat one
[20:25] <leptone> first step in the article
[20:26] <gordonjcp> Quest: oh, in virtualbox?  That's got its own stuff for dealing with virtual disks
[20:26] <Beldar> leptone, exactly and paste that data there, you familiar with chrooting from a live cd if you have a problem?
[20:26] <npm> excellent marketing: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/12/10/you-know-ubuntu-as-an-operating-system-mandela-knew-it-as-his-lifes-mission/
[20:26] <leptone> i commented out  the original "Section "Device"" part
[20:26] <xangua> !ot | npm
[20:27] <leptone> Beldar, i get that you paste it in
[20:27] <leptone> but
[20:27] <Quest> gordonjcp,  ok
[20:27] <Quest> let me see
[20:28] <Beldar> leptone, If you create it, it is empty, you would paste that info in  and save. Again are you familiar with chrooting?
[20:28] <leptone> no
[20:29] <leptone> this is what it contained originally
[20:29] <leptone> Beldar, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6557842/
[20:29] <waterbender> hi
[20:29] <leptone> beldar, this is what i changed it to http://paste.ubuntu.com/6557849/
[20:30] <Beldar> leptone, You have nvidia that is not intel, is this a optimus?
[20:30] <idontgiveafutch> Hi guys!
[20:30] <leptone> huh?
[20:30] <leptone> is what an optimus
[20:30] <leptone> ?
[20:30] <idontgiveafutch> Moodle question: Someone knows how to create meta courses?
[20:30] <leptone> my computer is an intel pc
[20:30] <Beldar> leptone, That article and change is specific in what hardware.
[20:31] <leptone> are u asking me a question?
[20:31] <mustmodify> hitsujiTMO: yes, I used OpenSSH Daemon
[20:31] <leptone> beldar, im pretty confused can you do this in baby steps plz
[20:31] <waterbender> i need help
[20:32] <idontgiveafutch> waterbender can I help you?
[20:33] <leptone> Beldar, you still there?
[20:33] <waterbender> im new and need help installing stuff on xubuntu
[20:33] <Beldar> leptone, I would just confirm you have an Intel GPU. Others will probably be better here, the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is important in asking here is all.
[20:33] <MonkeyDust_> waterbender: let's hear it
[20:33] <clinikpc> 1
[20:34] <Guest88658> How do I know what's wrong with a 525A media center? (it has 8 USB ports, a mic and headphone jacks and memory card slots with a SATA port
[20:34] <idontgiveafutch> waterbender ok. What?
[20:34] <leptone> beldar, i really dont know what anyof this means. can you help me understand what you are talking about plz
[20:34] <Beldar> leptone, You gotta learn some patience here, an answer not within a minute does not mean much. ;)
[20:34] <waterbender> it says i need to upgrade my flash player and i have no sound
[20:34] <Guest88658> I did a lsusb, and it seems to me that it says that it recognizes the item, but nothing from the media center
[20:35] <leptone> beldar, im sry what does that mean. an answer that can be given in one minute isnt a very good answer?
[20:35] <idontgiveafutch> waterbender whats the problem with upgrade
[20:35] <idontgiveafutch> ?
[20:35] <Beldar> leptone, What I'm saying #1 I'm not your best help. #2 the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is important. #3 the link says a specific gpu.
[20:36] <MonkeyDust_> waterbender  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:36] <Guest88658> any ideas / suggestions?
[20:36] <waterbender> idk it wont install the upgrade my buddy said to use  the terminal but idk how
[20:36] <leptone> beldar, aaah this is only for Intel GPUs got it
[20:36] <Beldar> leptone, I had not answered you fast enough and you said, "Beldar, you still there?"
[20:36] <waterbender> he derps alot
[20:37] <idontgiveafutch> waterbender Ctrl + Alt + T > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:37] <leptone> how can i see what GPU i have?
[20:37] <idontgiveafutch> waterbender just type this on your keyboard
[20:37] <waterbender> alright thanks and do that for anything i want installed?
[20:38] <idontgiveafutch> leptone glxinfo
[20:38] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, is that a terminal command
[20:38] <idontgiveafutch> waterbender no. Example. If I want to install Firefox I would type > sudo apt-get install firefox
[20:38] <Beldar> leptone, Is this just a whim, are you really having any problems, is this just trying to improve a system working fine already?
[20:38] <Guest88658> Any suggestions?  I can say that the audio (mic and headphone jacks) work fine
[20:39] <idontgiveafutch> leptone So, search for "Details"
[20:39] <leptone> beldar, no there is really a problem however pasting in the text from the article seemd to solve it
[20:39] <leptone> but id like to confirm that i have the correct gpu now
[20:39] <OerHeks> leptone, lscpu
[20:40] <Beldar> leptone, Hmm, no problem that you fixed. ;)
[20:40] <OerHeks> oh GPU , not CPU > lspci | grep -i VGA
[20:40] <idontgiveafutch> waterbender Or you can open Ubuntu Software Center and search for a lot of software. Just clicking on "Install"
[20:41] <leptone> beldar, i have a very difficult time understanding the ideas you are attempting to communicate. there was a problem. i followed the article. it is fixed. you got me worried that i didnt have an intel gpu now i want to check. if i have an intel gpu ill consider the problem resolved. if not i will remove the text i added and search for a new solution
[20:42] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, ok im in details
[20:42] <idontgiveafutch> leptone what's your problem?
[20:42] <leptone> I JUST WANT TO DETERMINE IF MY GPU IS INTEL OR NOT
[20:42] <idontgiveafutch> leptone just go for last option. There are a few information about CPU and your GPU
[20:42] <leptone> thats i
[20:42] <leptone> it
[20:42] <FloodBot1> leptone: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:43] <Beldar> leptone, This is what you said when I asked if you had a problem. " beldar, no there is really a problem" You are not realizing what you are saying, if you are confused on responses you might read what you post. ;)
[20:43] <idontgiveafutch> leptone Do you found?
[20:43] <leptone> very possible
[20:44] <idontgiveafutch> leptone Just take a screenshot and post here
[20:45] <leptone> ok so when i look in details>graphics i see "Driver GeForce GT 330M/PCIe/SSE2" whihc is nvidia right? but when i do the command that OerHeks gave me, lscpu, i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6557919/
[20:45] <leptone> Vendor ID:             GenuineIntel
[20:46] <leptone> so i ask the whole channel. what kind of gpu do i have?
[20:47] <idontgiveafutch> leptone Two. An intel HD graphics and a dedicated GPU Nvidia?
[20:47] <idontgiveafutch> !
[20:47] <Guest16899> Hello
[20:47] <Guest88658> Anyone wanna see the thing that is bothering me?
[20:47] <leptone> ok thx you idontgiveafutch
[20:48] <leptone> what does that mean for this article http://linuxg.net/fix-slow-graphics-performance-on-ubuntu-13-04-intel-gpu/
[20:48] <Guest16899> i booted ubuntu over network via pxe but i have no internet
[20:48] <Guest88658> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6557926/
[20:48] <idontgiveafutch> leptone plz, type this and post on pastebin > sudo /sbin/lsmod | grep nvidia
[20:48] <Guest16899> can you help me please?
[20:48] <MonkeyDust_> leptone  does this line help      cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep GPU
[20:48] <idontgiveafutch> leptone you're welcome
[20:49] <Guest16899> for example ariva rescue cd has internet
[20:49] <Guest88658> Guest16899: That is a question that I no longer ask
[20:49] <leptone> MonkeyDust_, idk what would i do with that?
[20:49] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6557940/
[20:49] <idontgiveafutch> leptone okay. Your Nividia card is installed.
[20:49] <Guest16899> with live cd i have internet but over network not
[20:49] <MonkeyDust_> leptone  you want to know your GPU? use that line to find out, in a terminal
[20:50] <Guest16899> Guest88658, why not?
[20:50] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, i am trying to do this http://linuxg.net/fix-slow-graphics-performance-on-ubuntu-13-04-intel-gpu/
[20:50] <MonkeyDust_> leptone  open a terminal and paste this line     cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep GPU
[20:51] <Guest88658> Guest16899: Not knowing the question, it is impossible to know whether or not one can help
[20:51] <idontgiveafutch> leptone I don't recommend
[20:51] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, this is what i have now http://paste.ubuntu.com/6557951/
[20:51] <Guest16899> Ubuntu PXE, I have no Internet
[20:51] <q0> apt-get install gets stuck at Saucy /universe
[20:51] <q0> Waiting for headers...
[20:51] <idontgiveafutch> leptone Is your mac too slow?
[20:51] <q0> Even if i change the server still the same ?
[20:51] <Guest16899> please help
[20:52] <q0> please help
[20:52] <leptone> MonkeyDust_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6557955/
[20:52] <Guest88658> Guest16899: remind me the question you need help with
[20:52] <q0> oh apparently it was just a huge delay, it continues....
[20:52] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, yes it was super laggy after upgrading to 13.04
[20:53] <waterbender> idontgiveafutch it says E:the update takes no arguments
[20:53] <q0> Why would it take 5 minutes to get a header from a server with <50ms to me ?
[20:53] <leptone> should i remove that piece from xorg.conf and un comment the original section?
[20:53] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, ^
[20:53] <Guest16899> Guest88658, i started ubuntu over network with PXE Boot but then i have no internet why?
[20:53] <Guest88658> Guest16899: I would like to help, but I doubt I have any answers
[20:53] <Guest16899> q0, maybe firewall
[20:54] <Guest88658> Guest16899: Guest16899: Prior to PXE, did you have network?
[20:54] <idontgiveafutch> leptone you can try... But I don't recommend. Try this: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-ringtail-nvidia.html
[20:55] <Guest16899> Guest88658, i do nor know firefox can not show me website
[20:55] <leptone> should i just delete the xorg.conf file? and start over
[20:55] <idontgiveafutch> waterbend Can you take a screenshot? Use imgur.com plz
[20:55] <idontgiveafutch> leptone NO.
[20:55] <leptone> ok should i remove the piece i added and uncomment the piece i commented
[20:55] <Guest16899> Guest88658, other distros can go internet
[20:55] <Guest88658> Guest16899: I need help, too, with a USB hub and memory card reader thing that doesn't seem to function correctly... well mic and heaphone works, though usb and memory card reader doesn't
[20:55] <waterbender> nope
[20:56] <idontgiveafutch> leptone ok. If it works, tell me! hehehe
[20:56] <Guest16899> and on live cd ubuntu can too but not over PXE
[20:56] <leptone> wht do u mean works?
[20:56] <Guest88658> Guest16899: Are you doing multiple boots?
[20:56] <Guest16899> yes
[20:56] <leptone> like i thought you said that i shouldnt follow that article bc i have an nvidia card
[20:56] <idontgiveafutch> leptone If you don't get a black screen when you reinitialize.
[20:56] <leptone> so should i undo what i did
[20:57] <idontgiveafutch> leptone ok. Try this!
[20:57] <auronandace> Guest88658 + Guest16899: perhaps you should change your nick's to make it easier for people to follow
[20:57] <idontgiveafutch> waterbender okay... I'm trying help you...
[20:58] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, try what. what i just said. or do u have an idea?
[21:00] <stevebelgium> I am trying to understand why I get sound through the headphone, but that the usb ports of the same item doesn't work
[21:00] <dimadima_> Quick question to see if anyone has ever had this problem. I'm trying to install ubuntu on my new laptop, and am booting to a USB drive that has ubuntu on it. First time I tried booting, I just got a black screen. Then I added nomodeset to the boot options, and instead of a black screen, I got 3 (columns) identical screens on like the top 10% of my screen. The text was way too small to read, so I didn't know what to do. I tried othe
[21:00] <dimadima_> any thoughts?
[21:01] <stevebelgium> dimadima_:My thoughts are that I'm lost
[21:01] <dimadima_> as in, I wasn't very clear? I can try again in that case
[21:01] <stevebelgium> dimadima_: J";
[21:01] <stevebelgium> m
[21:02] <stevebelgium> dimadima_: I'm the poster child of "newbie"
[21:02] <dimadima_> haha, gotchya
[21:02] <dimadima_> I've installed linux before, and it's becoming super frustrating
[21:02] <dimadima_> need some tables to flip
[21:03] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, so i just reverted the xorg.conf file back to how it was before i change it rebooted and my system is really slow again
[21:04] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, so i just reverted the xorg.conf file back to how it was before i change it rebooted and my system is really slow/laggy again
[21:05] <stevebelgium> dimadima_: I have a media center with usb ports, memory card slots and a mic/headphone set.  I connected the connector from the unit to the JAUDIO thing on the mother board, the two USB wires to JUSB1 and JUSB2 and the SATA wires to two SATA ports on the mother board.  Only the audio functions
[21:06] <waterbender> thanks idontgiveafutch
[21:07] <idontgiveafutch> leptone hahaha I say it. I don't recommend make it. Just try this: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-ringtail-nvidia.html
[21:09] <Monier> Could someone help me with the ubuntu terminal? I'm trying to set up a Starbound server using this: http://goo.gl/SFvfnP guide. But I'm currently stuck at the type ./update_starbound.sh as it gives me an error that it can not find the a directory. http://imgur.com/pT1BMzD
[21:10] <CarlFK> what is the sudo shutdown like thing to hybernate?
[21:10] <Monier> of course in the i removed my actual account details in the screenshot, but they are there in the actual file
[21:10] <CarlFK> suspend isn't.. it keeps waking up 10 seconds later
[21:10] <Monier> in the image*
[21:10] <stevebelgium> A new development ... the SD RAM card reader works, but USB is still not functional
[21:12] <neur95> ciao ragazzi
[21:12] <stevebelgium> neur95: ciao
[21:12] <stevebelgium> come va?
[21:13] <neur95> non è che qualche guru di linux mi può dare una mano ?
[21:13] <Pici> !it | neur95
[21:13] <neur95> sorry
[21:13] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, ok so basically just install the latest nvidia driver from the ubuntu software center?
[21:14] <neur95> where is some "linux-guru" that could help me ?
[21:15] <Ice_Strike> How to change ubuntu server ip
[21:16] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, so we are just trying a differnt driver?
[21:16] <stevebelgium> idontgiveafutch: Any ideas on my problem?  I have three connectors on the mother board (MS-7502) for JUSB.  I disconnected the two things that were on JUSB1 and JUSB2 and connected the two wires from my new thing on the same connectors (JUSB1 and JUSB2)
[21:17] <stevebelgium> Is there a command line thing that will show what the system thinks about the media center?
[21:17] <artrafael> #teamxbmc
[21:18] <leptone> 'thinks'?
[21:19] <mustmodify> I am missing /lib/init but a script is expecting it ( specifically /lib/init/vars.sh ) .. my impression is that I can get that by installing rcs... but that seems like a really old version of git. Is it a typical dependency?
[21:19] <stevebelgium> Can anyone explain to me this ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/6558076/
[21:19] <cripto> stevebelgium: what do you want to know
[21:20] <cripto> its a list of usb devices connected to the bus and who wrote the driver
[21:20] <k1l> stevebelgium: that is the usb-hub-ports and the hardware that is connected there
[21:21] <Hassen> hello
[21:22] <Hassen> lately once i start my PC,ubuntu gets a startup error: "display devices could not be captured" repeatitively at every startup
[21:22] <Hassen> fortunately i have win7 in dual boot so i coumd join here to ask
[21:22] <idontgiveafutch> stevebelgium what's exactly your problem?
[21:22] <Hassen> any help
[21:22] <stevebelgium> cripto: I have an internal thing that has 8 USB ports, a SD memory card reader and headphone and mic jacks.  It has SATA and  other things that I don't need.  I listen to music through the headphone jack. I put the microSD card in an adaptor in the SD card reader and they both work, but the USB ports don't seem to recognize or access the various USB things I put in the USB ports
[21:23] <idontgiveafutch> leptone your graphic card is installed?
[21:23] <Hassen> *so i could*
[21:23] <MonkeyDust_> Hassen  and does the boot sequence does not continue?
[21:24] <Hassen> MonkeyDust_, it continues in those low-graphic-mode repeatitive menus,then finally ends up in black terminal screen where nothing can be inputed correctly
[21:25] <stevebelgium> idontgiveafutch: On the back of the computer, there are 6 usb ports.  They are against the wall, so ok for things that I don't change or move, but not for things like USB flash drives.  I have installed physically the hub and the wires that seem to be necessary, but USB doesn't make available the contents to the USB drives.
[21:25] <idontgiveafutch> Hassen What do you installed recently?
[21:25] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, i switched to the driver they used in the article the one with '313' and the system is still very slow
[21:25] <stevebelgium> I want to use the 8 USB ports on the front but don't think they are available
[21:27] <Hassen> idontgiveafutch, i can't remember exactly,but i'm sure that i didn't install any weird stuff at the last working session,also many free softwares in the software center could not be installed like VLC/Webcamstudio, those weird things happened in the last working session.
[21:27] <stevebelgium> idontgiveafutch: I don't understand command line, but want to learn ... and can't understand what is working or not and how to get it to work
[21:28] <stevebelgium> idontgiveafutch: I can type command line things if someone tells me to, and get information that helps the people who help understand my problem and find the solution to the problem
[21:30] <stevebelgium> idontgiveafutch: After lsusb, I can type what else to figure out what is not working and why?
[21:35] <arm1e> has anyone managed to get ios 7 devices working?
[21:37] <arm1e> libmobiledevice were working on it back in August but no firther news of when 1.1.7 is due out
[21:37] <arm1e> *further
[21:38] <stevebelgium> arm1e: I'd like to have an IOS7 device
[21:38] <stevebelgium> You've got one to give me?
[21:38] <stevebelgium> ;)
[21:38] <MonkeyDust_> stevebelgium  it has to be plugged into USB
[21:39] <arm1e> stevebelgium: no point if it cant connect to pc! :)
[21:40] <stevebelgium> MonkeyDust_: Well; I plugged the two wires that said "USB" on them to the JUSB ports of the mother board.  I have a USB flash drive in one USB port
[21:42] <stevebelgium> MonkeyDust_: And audio works as does the SDHC card reader on the unit
[21:42] <killajk2201> does anybody use backtrack
[21:42] <stevebelgium> So SOME things work, but USB doesn't.  I need to diagnose the problem so I can fix it
[21:43] <maujhsn> Can anyone tell me if a 32GB usb flash drive is suitable for a full ubuntu- 13.10  new installation?
[21:43] <k1l> killajk2201: 1st. backtrack is deprecated, 2nd both are not supported here
[21:43] <k1l> !kali | killajk2201
[21:44] <OerHeks> maujhsn, minimal is 5gb so yes
[21:45] <mustmodify> I am missing /lib/init but a script is expecting it ( specifically /lib/init/vars.sh ) .. my impression is that I can get that by installing rcs... but that seems like a really old version of git. Is it a typical dependency?
[21:45] <mustmodify> or alternately, please let me know whether you have a /lib/init directory
[21:48] <OerHeks> mustmodify,  /lib/init/vars.sh does exist on my system
[21:48] <glitsj16> mustmodify: /lib/init/vars.sh is part of the 'initscripts' package .. sudo dpkg -S /lib/init/vars.sh tells me that
[21:49] <mustmodify> glitsj16: wow ok I had no idea you could reverse-lookup things that way.
[21:49] <glitsj16> mustmodify: yes, very handy command
[21:52] <hatchetjack> hey
[21:53] <hatchetjack> ubuntu 13.10 and I cannot kill mysqld
[21:53] <hatchetjack> maybe something with systemd?
[21:53] <hatchetjack> I dunno
[21:53] <hatchetjack> what the heck?
[21:53] <k1l> i bet its not systemd
[21:55] <hatchetjack> k1l: I'm listening
[21:56] <k1l> hatchetjack: give more details and error messages. just with guessing its quite hard to find the reason
[21:57] <hatchetjack> k1l: well if I find the pids for mysql and I kill -9 mysql just spawns back with a new pid
[21:58] <jfreak53> @hatchetjack kill the daemon
[21:58] <jfreak53> hatchetjack kill the daemon
[21:58] <MonkeyDust_> hatchetjack  and killall ?
[21:58] <stevebelgium> MonkeyDust_: What needs to be plugged into USB?  I have a flash drive in one of the USB ports on the thing.  The thing is connected via two wires that say (USB) on them to the JUSB connectors of the mother board
[21:59] <hatchetjack> yeah tried killall too
[21:59] <MonkeyDust_> stevebelgium  i have no clue, sorry
[22:00] <glitsj16> hatchetjack: have you tried stopping it yet? what does 'sudo service mysql stop' do?
[22:00] <stevebelgium> You do understand that I'm trying to get it right
[22:01] <hatchetjack> glitsj16: it laughs at me
[22:01] <MonkeyDust_> stevebelgium  i understand that your usb ports don't work, but i have no clue what could be wrong
[22:02] <stevebelgium> Thx anyway
[22:02] <toss2> can someone please look at this http://pastebin.com/UGDb8qVJ
[22:02] <toss2> I am trying to stop mysql server from ubuntu and this comes
[22:02] <hatchetjack> thing is all I did was add federated support
[22:03] <hatchetjack> and then I could not log in with credentials
[22:03] <Pici> toss2: Did you try doing what it said?
[22:03] <MonkeyDust_> toss2  did you try    service mysql stop
[22:03] <k1l> toss2: the error message explains itself
[22:04] <toss2> yesh
[22:04] <toss2> its sas no such command
[22:04] <toss2> root@wordpress:~# root@wordpress:~# service mysql stop
[22:04] <toss2> root@wordpress:~#: command not found
[22:04] <glitsj16> hatchetjack: so i take it 'sudo service mysql status' is laughing as well ?
[22:04] <Pici> toss2: What does cat /etc/issue say?
[22:05] <toss2> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[22:06] <Pici> toss2: What about   echo $PATH
[22:06] <MonkeyDust_> toss2  in a terminal, type    man 8 stop       is it useful?
[22:07] <toss2> ahh I just need to stop mysql I have a lot of work to do :((
[22:07] <pvl1> is there a really simple DM. or can i make my DM not start on boot
[22:07] <toss2> ok.. thanks anyway
[22:07] <quadHelix> toss2:  you tried `sudo service mysql stop`?
[22:07] <toss2> echo $PATH
[22:08] <maujhsn> OerHeks By installing ubuntu rather than just trying it on the USB ,what the difference if your still using it from an (USB)external device?
[22:10] <rantic> Hi everyone, could anyone help me to understand why after installing the proprietary Nvidia driver on Ubuntu it breaks the boot process and makes it ugly?
[22:10] <toss2> mysql is down omg sorry all
[22:10] <toss2> and thanks
[22:11] <pvl1> rantic: are you getting errors
[22:11] <rantic> pvl1: No
[22:12] <pvl1> rantic: so it works! now you probably need to config ur xorg
[22:12] <rantic> pvl1: Every distribution I've ever used (and now Ubuntu) has this happen. Everything technically works but the boot splash is gone and everything is ugly.
[22:12] <godzi> Can anyone help with upgrading from 9.04
[22:13] <rantic> pvl1: I'm sure it's just a configuration issue on my part which I'm too much of a newbie to understand, I just wanted to know if anyone knew _why_ it happened.
[22:13] <pvl1> rantic: boot splash has nothing to do with nvidia driver... to my knowledge
[22:13] <godzi> When I try to go from 9.04 to 9.10 is says there is a network error or something
[22:14] <rantic> pvl1: Boot splash probably isn't the correct term ... everything after that all the way up to the display manager
[22:14] <MonkeyDust_> !eolupgrade | godzi
[22:14] <pvl1> rantic: the windows driver just pools the screen to configure right. linux wants YOU to do it
[22:14] <pvl1> rantic: the DM is what starts Xorg
[22:14] <maujhsn> pvli In the ubuntu-10.04 distro this problem did not occur when NVIDIA drivers were installed...What has happened over a a three year period?
[22:15] <HereticLocke> Hello
[22:15] <glitsj16> rantic: there's a few things you can try to make it less ugly .. what version of ubuntu are you on?
[22:15] <HereticLocke> Can someone please confirm something for me?
[22:15] <rantic> glitsj16: 13.10, I believe I've found an article to fix it. I just came here out of pure curiosity to understand why.
[22:15] <k1l> HereticLocke: depends
[22:15] <ses1984> hi, i'm having an issue trying to add an nvidia graphics card to my system. it worked fine until i tried to enable the proprietary driver, now i can't get back to a gui
[22:15] <maujhsn> OerHeks  By installing ubuntu rather than just trying it on the USB ,what the difference if your still using it from an (USB)external device?
[22:16] <HereticLocke> k1l: I agree. Are you subscribed to the Ubuntu Voice mailing list?
[22:16] <MonkeyDust_> HereticLocke  ask your question and wait
[22:16] <ses1984> when i boot i get a message about being in low graphics mode. if i try to stay in low graphics mode for the session, it warns me about restarting X or something like that, then X closes but never comes back
[22:16] <rantic> maujhsn: If you use Ubuntu off a USB device, it doesn't actually affect your computer. Your hard drive will remain untouched.
[22:16] <k1l> HereticLocke: just state a detailed question. no need for 30minutes foreplay :)
[22:16] <ses1984> if i try to reconfigure graphics, i can hit ok then i get dumped back to the same dialog
[22:16] <HereticLocke> :)
[22:17] <HereticLocke> MonkeyDust_,:I'm trying  to find out who won the Ubuntu Voice 'Goodie Bag' or whatever?
[22:17] <maujhsn> rantic Yes this seems to be true!
[22:19] <pvl1> rantic: i would try #linux
[22:19] <maujhsn> rantic But GUI functionality is suspect with the so called improvements either made by Ubuntu, or NVIDIA!
[22:20] <Guest38385> NVIDIA is finally putting some more effort into drivers which is cool
[22:21] <pvl1> maujhsn: Guest38385 rantic the nvidia in the repo im almost positive is not the official nvidia driver
[22:21] <HereticLocke> No one?
[22:21] <glitsj16> rantic: i think it is because of conflicting resolution settings between nvidia and plymouth (the boot screen) .. FYI, many scripts on the net to fix it use hwinfo to get framebuffer resolution, but that is no longer in 13.10 .. you can get the same info by getting into a grub prompt at boot and using the native vbeinfo command
[22:22] <toss2> how can I search for a filename?
[22:22] <Guest38385> I read on the web they are going into more development with Linux
[22:22] <maujhsn> rantic, pvli, when I say GUI functionality I am specifically referring to the the nautilus desktop!
[22:22] <rantic> Guest38385: You can thank Linux and his middle finger.
[22:22] <rantic> Linus*
[22:22] <k1l> HereticLocke: i dont know of that, but this is a more technical support channel. maybe you are better off in #ubuntu-offtopic or if that project got another own channel
[22:22] <maujhsn> pvli I did not know that!
[22:23] <toss2> ah ok thanks but
[22:23] <toss2> how to use vi to edit file
[22:23] <Guest38385> When using grub customiser do I have to install the changes to the MBR for them to take effect?
[22:23] <HereticLocke> k1l: No it doesn't but offtopic is a good idea I didn't think of. Thanks!
[22:23] <toss2> after I run vi how to make to write in file
[22:23] <toss2> was alt+ z or?
[22:23] <rantic> pvl1: What do you mean not the official driver? How do they produce their own version of a binary?
[22:23] <jhutchins> toss2: esc,w
[22:24] <maujhsn> Guest38385 How were you able to acquire this information about the driver!
[22:24] <jhutchins> toss2: Sorry, esc,:,w,enter
[22:24] <toss2> um
[22:24] <toss2> ok
[22:24] <toss2> thanks
[22:24] <Guest38385> Good question I saw it on a Linux Website today and guess what I cant remember the name of it
[22:24] <toss2> a\h I can't type in vi :((
[22:25] <toss2> I type :w enter
[22:25] <toss2> and nothinfg
[22:25] <toss2> so I need to do :w (enter) ?
[22:25] <nespik> Press ESC
[22:25] <maujhsn> Guest38385  Hmmmm!
[22:25] <nespik> Then :w enter
[22:25] <toss2> thanks ne0sis
[22:25] <nespik> I am still getting acclimated to vi
[22:25] <toss2> thanks nespik
[22:25] <pvl1> rantic: idk never looked into it. maybe they take the nvidia sources and do some work. but its not what you would get if you downloaded from nvidia
[22:26] <Guest38385> I did see it
[22:26] <Guest38385> no kidding
[22:26] <Guest38385> Working on Bumblebee and Optimus in particular
[22:26] <toss2> how to save now?
[22:26] <toss2> :(
[22:26] <nespik> ZZ
[22:26] <toss2> sorry about this
[22:26] <nespik> Save and exit is ZZ
[22:26] <toss2> thanks I am in BIG chaos right now :( thanks
[22:26] <k1l> guys no need to panic. it takes some time untill the driver is stable enough to get in the ubunut repos
[22:26] <nespik> It takes time to get used to it toss2
[22:27] <MonkeyDust_> Guest38385  please change your nickname to something more readable
[22:27] <Guest38385> Hi MonkeyDust how do I go about doing that?
[22:27] <MonkeyDust> Guest38385  type    /nick blah
[22:28] <skraito_> http://0x71.org/2013/12/11/0x71-xc-our-boss-which-is-jesus-christ-code-this-we-are-releasing-this-0day-assembly-compiler-ide-for-windows-under-his-command-all-glory-belong-to-him-enjoy-thank-you-lord-jesus-christ/
[22:28] <toss2> pls see http://pastie.org/8545867
[22:28] <toss2> I am trying to reset my mysql password
[22:28] <toss2> I edited my.cnf
[22:28] <Guest38385> Lets see if that worked
[22:28] <toss2> and now I cant start mysql
[22:28] <Guest38385> nope
[22:29] <knightshade> Hello
[22:29] <Guest38385> now?
[22:29] <knightshade> How do I temporarily disable automatic suspend mode via commandline in xubuntu 12.04?
[22:29] <maujhsn> For anyone interesting in making ubuntu- portable on a 32 GB "USB"!  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GF4GGP8/ref=cm_sw_r_fa_myi?m=A366Z5T5ZQ30R4
[22:29] <Guest38385> ok now
[22:29] <Guest38385> nope ll
[22:30] <knightshade> I just wanted to copy some files via ssh and the client was going to suspend mode while copying. :-/
[22:31] <jhutchins> toss2: I think vi is great.  Another write, exit sequence is esc,wq,enter.
[22:32] <toss2>  http://pastie.org/8545875 this is mysql erro log
[22:32] <toss2> thi sis syslog  http://pastie.org/8545877
[22:32] <pvl1> i dont really need a dm to run i3 right?
[22:33] <toss2> hiw can I exit from vi?
[22:33] <jhutchins> toss2: ubuntu's mysql comes pre-configured with a user and password that are used to start and stop the service.  If you change them or overwrite the mysql internal database, the init script won't work, although you can still start the daemon manually as root.
[22:33] <jhutchins> toss2: esc,:,q
[22:33] <Guest99736> esc
[22:33] <Guest99736> ,:
[22:33] <Guest99736> then q!
[22:34] <toss2> esc :q! ?
[22:34] <jhutchins> toss2: The password and how to fix it are documented in the /usr/share/doc/mysql* files.
[22:34] <toss2> wihout ,?
[22:34] <jhutchins> toss2: Yes, no commas.
[22:34] <toss2> ok
[22:34] <jhutchins> Exclamation point forces quit without write.
[22:34] <toss2> any idea how to
[22:34] <toss2> see why mysql wont start?
[22:34] <jhutchins> toss2: ubuntu's mysql comes pre-configured with a user and password that are used to start and stop the service.  If you change them or overwrite the mysql internal database, the init script won't work, although you can still start the daemon manually as root.
[22:34] <jhutchins> toss2: The password and how to fix it are documented in the /usr/share/doc/mysql* files.
[22:35] <toss2> sorry
[22:35] <toss2> how can I write in vi again?
[22:37] <jhutchins> toss2: i to insert, r to replace, escape to access command mode, : to issue commands.
[22:37] <n008> how do I solve the freezing fullscreen flash problem
[22:37] <toss2> I can't start mysql after putting this line in my.cnf skip-grant-tables=1'
[22:37] <n008> on ubuntu
[22:38] <toss2> thanks
[22:38] <n008> my computer freezes if flip to fullscreen mode on flash
[22:38] <jhutchins> toss2: https://www.shell-tips.com/2006/10/29/help-sheet-for-vi-editor/ http://www.viemu.com/a_vi_vim_graphical_cheat_sheet_tutorial.html
[22:39] <bennypr0fane> hello, what is, in your opinion, the best GUI-application for ripping a DVD and compressing it to one file
[22:39] <jhutchins> toss2: http://zzyxx.wikidot.com/vim
[22:40] <jhutchins> n008: Faster computer, faster CGI, faster downlink.
[22:40] <jhutchins> bennypr0fane: dd
[22:41] <bennypr0fane> jhutchins thanks, but i did ask for GUI-program
[22:41] <jhutchins> bennypr0fane: dd if=/dev/dvd of=/path/to/dvdtitle.iso
[22:41] <bgy> hi
[22:41] <jhutchins> bennypr0fane: By all means run it in a GUI.
[22:41] <bennypr0fane> haha
[22:41] <q0> Hello, I made a startup disk for arm devices as ubuntu, but after I format the micro SD, it shows the same files again ??????
[22:42] <jhutchins> bennypr0fane: I hear good things about handbrake but I'm not familiar with what it actually does.  The above works, makes a mountable/playable file that can be burned to a blank DVDR, and sometimes even overcomes DRM.
[22:43] <rypervenche> q0: How did you format it?
[22:43] <bgy> How could change the ulimit for an user? I tried to set "user - nofile 10240" to /etc/security/limits.conf and then tried sudo su user --shell /bin/bash --command "ulimit -n10000" but the operation is not permited
[22:43] <bgy> currently the limit is 1024 and if i try to set it to 1000 it works because the hard limit is not reached
[22:44] <bgy> I also tried to reboot the machine to make sure the limits.conf is "loaded"
[22:44] <q0> rypervenche, via ubuntu startup d creator, also with nautilus file manager which has an option to format
[22:45] <bennypr0fane> jhutchins:  that would be a bit too simple, I have a more complicated case. 1. the outcome needs to playable without mounting it to a disk first, just a media file 2. when I have that, I need to also get the soundtrack in a separate file
[22:45] <Ben64> q0: so what is the actual problem you are encountering
[22:46] <neomaskadax> Hey
[22:46] <rypervenche> bgy: What happens when you type "sudo ulimit -n 1000" ?
[22:46] <jhutchins> bennypr0fane: I'd look at handbrake then.  You can play the iso directly with mplayer.
[22:46] <n008> my computer freezes if flip to fullscreen mode on flash
[22:46] <jhutchins> n008: Yep.  Flash is a horrible format.
[22:47] <jhutchins> n008: Does it matter if the file is local vs. remote?
[22:47] <bennypr0fane> thanks
[22:48] <jhutchins> n008: Can we assume that you're playing it with the Adobe plugin for firefox?
[22:50] <q0> Ben64, after formatting the files reappear
[22:51] <Oliver_> Would someone be able to help me?  I have an extra laptop, a dell latitude running Ubuntu.  I was wondering if I could set up an ssh tunnel on it so that when I go to school I can connect to it.  Like using it as a VPN.
[22:52] <Oliver_> So I can be on my school's wifi on my Android phone and connect to the PC to use my home wifi so I can use Facebook and the like.
[22:52] <Ben64> q0: what files
[22:53] <q0> Ben64, the files inside the SD card I'm formatting
[22:53] <Ben64> q0: what files
[22:54] <q0> boot files and a bunch of arm device os rootfs
[22:54] <q0> as two different partitions
[22:54] <Ben64> because you told the startup disk creator to make those?
[22:55] <Ben64> use gparted if you really want to wipe everything from it
[22:55] <q0> the first time I did was with dd, I'm not sure but the last time was with startup disk creator I think yes
[22:55] <bgy> rypervenche, sudo: ulimit: command not found
[22:55] <jhutchins> Oliver_: That depends on the router/firewall between your home PC and the network, and on whether you can track the public IP address.
[22:55] <q0> ahh. Gparted.. Ok this is a tip. Thank you
[22:56] <bgy> but if I do sudo su user --shell /bin/bash --command "ulimit -n1000" then sudo su redis --shell /bin/bash --command "ulimit -n" it returns 1000 (or whatver I previously set)
[22:56] <Oliver_> jhutchins: Ok, I have the wifi pass. for the school wifi, and I obv. have my own.
[22:56] <jhutchins> Oliver_: You want to set the router to "forward a port" to the internal server.  I would suggest that you NOT use port 22.  You may have to tell your sshd to listen on the additional port.
[22:56] <Ben64> q0: if you used dd, then yeah you should use gparted to get back to a normal state. you could have really weird partition stuff going on there
[22:56] <Oliver_> I'm only 5 minutes walking from my school anyways
[22:57] <Oliver_> jhutchins: ok
[22:57] <bgy> I'm just limited to 1024 no matter I set up the limits.conf correctly (I think)
[22:57] <jhutchins> Oliver_: Usually the router has the public IP address, and the internal computers have private, non-routable addresses like 192.168.0.3
[22:58] <Nothing_Much> Are there any encryption GUI front-ends for the Archive Manager in Xubuntu 13.10?
[22:58] <Oliver_> jhutchins: ok
[22:58] <jhutchins> Oliver_: On my old router, I could forward say 222 to 22 on my desktop, and 223 to 22 on my server.  New router, 222 has to go to 222, so desktop now listens on 22 and 222 (similar on server).
[22:58] <bgy> rypervenche, when I do it with my own user it works (after logout/login) but in my case it is the redis user which don't have shell or anything
[22:58] <Oliver_> gotcha
[22:59] <Ben64> Oliver_: why not concentrate on school work while at school?
[22:59] <jhutchins> Oliver_: If you can figure out the brand and model of the router, there are probably instructions on the internet.  Some ISPs user routers that can't do that, but they're getting rare.
[22:59] <Oliver_> Ben64: I have an hour long lunch, I eat in class most of the time.
[22:59] <Oliver_> Ben64: Netflix to pass the time.
[22:59] <Nothing_Much> Are there any encryption GUI front-ends for the Archive Manager in Xubuntu 13.10?
[23:00] <Ben64> well netflix definitely isn't going to work with that method
[23:00] <Oliver_> Ben64: Why is that?
[23:00] <Ben64> your connection will be much too slow routed through your house
[23:01] <Oliver_> Ben64: Really?  Isn't it just forwarding to my home connection?
[23:01] <Ben64> school -> house -> netflix -> house -> school
[23:01] <Oliver_> Ben64: Oh, gotcha.
[23:02] <Ben64> everything will be limited by your upstream, which on a residential connection, is bad
[23:02] <Oliver_> Ben64: Is there a way to do something similar?
[23:02] <Ben64> get a real server, with 100mbit
[23:02] <Oliver_> lol, not a possibility.  Thanks though.
[23:02] <Oliver_> Gonna save up to build my Desktop and my HTPC first.
[23:02] <Ben64> they're not hard to get
[23:03] <Oliver_> Ben64: 100mb is when I'm still with my paretns.
[23:03] <q0> Ben64, trying it with gparted but it's not even recognizing : Device has zero length, can't possibly store.....etc.
[23:03] <Ben64> q0: whats the device name, if you know? (like /dev/sdd)
[23:03] <q0> sdc
[23:03] <talin> hello. i don't like the idea of installing a "complete" desktop or server edition. is it possible to download and install a sort of minimal edition of ubuntu? and is it likely that it'll get me into some difficulties later?
[23:04] <Ben64> !minimal | talin
[23:04] <Ben64> q0: what does "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc" say? if its more than 2 lines, use a pastebin
[23:04] <talin> Ben64: ah cool. can i install it on a usb stick as well?
[23:04] <q0> Ben64, nothing
[23:04] <Ben64> talin: not sure, but i don't see why  not
[23:05] <Ben64> q0: unplug it, wait a bit, then plug it back in, then pastebin "dmesg | tail -n20"
[23:05] <q0> Ben64, it recognizes only the two partitions when I plug it in again
[23:05] <talin> i come from debian. what is the main difference between it and ubuntu?
[23:05] <q0> so when it's out it's sdc when in sdc sdc1 sdc2
[23:06] <Ben64> q0: ok
[23:07] <iceroot> talin: upstart instead of initd/systemd, unity as default, sometimes major updates during a release, its based on debian sid, new releases every 6 month
[23:08] <q0> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/Sa2Gcg3A
[23:08] <iceroot> talin: and more non-free software in the system (e.g. firmware) while debian is 100% Free in the isos
[23:08] <shams> hello friends, i have removed my wubi ubuntu 12.04 and installed it from DVD  as suggested here, shrinked  window in 100 GB and reserved 400 for Linux, but during the installation i was never asked where to install Linux, how do i know that space 400 GB is being used by Linux http://www.pasteall.org/pic/63857
[23:08] <q0> the files still show up though...
[23:08] <Ben64> q0: looks like you can use gparted on it. but its /dev/sdb not sdc
[23:09] <q0> gparted doesn't recognize anything though, maybe i should restart
[23:09] <Ben64> q0: are you ejecting it before trying to use gparted?
[23:10] <talin> iceroot: aah, cool
[23:10] <talin> iceroot: but if i install mini.iso, i won't' get unity, and i can pickanything i like
[23:10] <Ben64> you could also remove unity easily if you do the normal install
[23:10] <Ben64> or use lubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu
[23:11] <iceroot> talin: the mini.iso is asking you if you want a GUI
[23:11] <q0> Ben64, ejecting, still same result
[23:11] <talin> i see.
[23:11] <Ben64> q0: no no, you don't want to eject. that removes the device and gparted can't see it anymore
[23:11] <talin> i was hoping i could try enlightenment, but i don't suppose it's' available with apt-get? atleast it's' not on debian
[23:11] <iceroot> talin: you can also remove unity (ubuntu-desktop) later and install any other desktops (kubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop and so on)
[23:11] <iceroot> talin: packages.ubuntu.com
[23:12] <iceroot> !info | e17
[23:12] <ice9> how to find installed libraries names?
[23:12] <iceroot> !info e17
[23:12] <q0> Haven't been ejecting.. Absolutely hopeless now
[23:12] <iceroot> talin: its in the ubuntu repos
[23:13] <iceroot> talin: and of course its also in debian
[23:13] <Ben64> q0: plug it in, don't do anything else except "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sd[x]"
[23:13] <talin> hmm, so it's avail with apt-get if i install "saucy" (newest ubuntu?) and not with lucid (stable?)
[23:13] <iceroot> !info e17 lucid
[23:13] <Ben64> q0: make sure you have the right one, it could be sdb or sdc or sdd or sde or...
[23:13] <shams> hello friends, i have removed my wubi ubuntu 12.04 and installed it from DVD  as suggested here, shrinked  window in 100 GB and reserved 400 for Linux, but during the installation i was never asked where to install Linux, how do i know that space 400 GB is being used by Linux http://www.pasteall.org/pic/63857
[23:13] <iceroot> talin: its not on ubuntu 10.04 right, but 10.04 is no longer supported on the desktop
[23:14] <iceroot> talin: you should at least use 12.04 and there is e17
[23:14] <iceroot> !info e17 precise
[23:14] <q0> I'm sure it's sdb, which doesn't show up anything with fdisk. But other partitions sdb1 (boot) sdb2 (rootfs) show up in fdisk
[23:14] <Ben64> shams: it shows on that picture. ~22GB used
[23:15] <q0> Ben64, and also, sdb2 in fdisk says it doesn't have a valid partition table
[23:15] <talin> iceroot: i think i might try mini.iso then and just try to install enlightenment. i am kind of annoyed with how strict stuff is in debian. no firefox, it's called iceweasel, etc...
[23:15] <shams> Ben64, I want all that 400 for Linux, how do i do that.
[23:15] <iceroot> talin: how cares if it is called firefox/thunderbird or iceweasel/icedove
[23:15] <iceroot> who
[23:16] <talin> iceroot: well, that's just one of many things
[23:16] <shams> Ben64, I want all that 400 for Linux, how do i do that.
[23:16] <iceroot> talin: its all about free software and freedom
[23:16] <Ben64> q0: ok... you can just smash everything. use "sudo umount /dev/sdb1" and all the others that are mounted from it, then "sudo dd bs=1M if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb" and make sure its sdb you want to kill, because it will kill.
[23:16] <waykool99> isn't Iceweasel the alpha or beta to Firefox?
[23:16] <talin> iceroot: it's a nightmare to install e17
[23:16] <Ben64> shams: it is
[23:16] <iceroot> talin: ubuntu does not really care about that (e.g. these shopping lenses)
[23:16] <iceroot> talin: sudo apt-get install e17, on ubuntu and debian
[23:17] <talin> iceroot: "unable to locate package e17"
[23:17] <Kablam> help please i dont have any sound in xbmc and when i do aplay -l it says no sound but if i do sudo aplay-l i get sounddevices ... must be permission problem.... what should i do?
[23:17] <iceroot> talin: debian 7 does have e17. i have it here
[23:17] <talin> iceroot: how? i am running debian 7
[23:17] <mengesb> Chromium recently updated to 31.0.1650.63; now I can't run it... is there a known issue currently ?
[23:18] <iceroot> talin: ah is see its not in the main repo, i am using other repos as well, so on ubuntu just sudo apt-get install e17
[23:18] <q0> Ben64, wish there was some way of thanking you for spending this time
[23:18] <q0> all good :)
[23:18] <talin> iceroot: hmm. ithink i will give the minimal ubuntu a try then
[23:18] <Ben64> q0: just type "!cookie | Ben64" in here
[23:18] <q0> !cookie | Ben64
[23:18] <Jonbo> | isn't here
[23:18] <q0> lol
[23:18] <Ben64> :D
[23:18] <talin> iceroot: thanks for all the info (and for knowing both debian and ubuntu :-)
[23:19] <Ben64> !cookie bot?
[23:19] <Jonbo> bot? isn't here
[23:19] <shams> Ben64, thank you, but this time i see no Proprietary drivers, i have an nvidia GT 640,
[23:19] <waykool99> yes, there are some issues with google Chromium. check their website. i got locked out of some Advanced settings then crashed earlier.
[23:20] <Ben64> !cookie iceroot
[23:20] <Jonbo> You don't have any cookies to give!
[23:20] <talin> do you recommend 12.04 or 13.10?
[23:20] <Kijutsu> Help -- I upgraded to ubuntu 13.10, and now I have a PHP script that no longer functions.  Was a major upgrade done on PHP going into 13.10?
[23:20] <iceroot> Kijutsu: apt-get changelog php5
[23:21] <iceroot> Kijutsu: and yes, normally there are major updates during release changes (and normally its the fault of the programer using strange php5 stuff which is not working in newer versions)
[23:21] <mengesb> anyone else having issues with 12.04 LTS amd64 chromium or google-chrome on version 31.0.1650.63-1 ?
[23:22] <iceroot> !details | mengesb
[23:22] <iceroot> talin: 12.04
[23:22] <waykool99> i was mengesb.
[23:23] <Kijutsu> iceroot: long story short, I use a php script to tweet out song titles during automated playback of a shoutcast server.  and now i get fwrite/fclose errors. expected parameter 1 to be resource, boolean given and the script hangs
[23:23] <iceroot> talin: i dont like non lts releases in ubuntu, they are introducing normally new stuff which is not tested very good compared to lts releases
[23:23] <mengesb> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS amd64 - recent chromium update renders the browser unusable, It doesn't give any feedback - attempts to start then exists. Chromium has an error that the core dumped; google-chrome gives a little more info: [7:7:1211/152058:ERROR:base_feature_provider.cc(122)] manifestTypes: Allowing web_page contexts requires supplying a value for matches. [10204:10204:1211/152058:ERROR:base_feature_provider.cc(122)] manifestTypes: Allowing web_page
[23:23] <iceroot> Kijutsu: maybe #php can help
[23:24] <Kijutsu> iceroot: invite only :/
[23:24] <mengesb> chromium and google-chrome are both failing to run with what appears to be ultimately the same exit result: Illegal instruction (core dumped)
[23:24] <Kijutsu> damn these upgrades never go smoothly.
[23:24] <shams> Ben64,  i see no Proprietary drivers, i have an nvidia GT 640, do i have to install ? like sudo apt-get install nvidia ?
[23:24] <mengesb> waykool99: did you resolve it?
[23:25] <mengesb> I've tried full purge/re-install; removing cache, removing all config
[23:25] <waykool99> no, i formatted the drive to test other versions of Ubuntu.
[23:28] <waykool99> does Ubuntu's built-in or burned live CD of GParted have a way to write all zero's to the MBR and the rest of the drive?
[23:29] <Kijutsu> waykool99: you can use dd from a console to write zeros to a drive
[23:30] <waykool99> wow. didn't know that. thank you.
[23:30] <Kijutsu> it gives no warnings.. no errors.. no second chances..
[23:30] <Kijutsu> so use caution
[23:32] <shams>  i see no Proprietary drivers, i have an nvidia GT 640, do i have to install first ? like sudo apt-get install nvidia ?
[23:33] <waykool99> i have an 8 year old Western Digital Diagnostics CD that write millions of zero's at beginning and end of drive -or- zero's the entire drive. called WD. CS guy said they stopped giving those CD's with drive's anymore.
[23:34] <waykool99> he wouldn't say why
[23:34] <waykool99> my WD diag CD only works on drives less than 900 GB
[23:35] <Kijutsu> waykool99: if you're looking for a quick way to erase a drive, look up DBAN, boot and nuke.  Fully wipes a hard drive with DOD standards
[23:36] <Beldar> shams, You may of had the nvidia drivers install from the repos upon installing, everything look good and running fine?
[23:36] <waykool99> lol. cool.
[23:36] <waykool99> thanks for that
[23:39] <Beldar> waykool99, If this is a big HD this is going to take some considerable time so be prepared for that.
[23:39] <Kijutsu> Beldar & waykool99: indeed...DBAN typically takes around 3 hours for a 3 round randomized wipe on a 160GB drive.
[23:40] <waykool99> biggest drive i have is WD (formerly from USB drive) SATA 3 TB. 2- 2 TB, 1 TB. dozen or so smaller SATA and IDE drives
[23:41] <Kijutsu> Yeah it'll be a while to wipe it fully
[23:41] <Kijutsu> Unless you're concerned about virus or sensitive data, a zero write of mbr and partition table should be enough
[23:42] <waykool99> the WD Diag cd, to write zero's to 650 GB SATA drive takes over 2 hours.
[23:43] <ButtGoof> o/
[23:43] <andygraybeal> ufw allows outbound traffic by default right?  i don't have to right explicit outbound rules.
[23:43] <ButtGoof> ufw?
[23:43] <waykool99> good point Kijutsu. it gives you option to write millions of zero's at beginning and end of drive.
[23:43] <andygraybeal> ufw, the firewall
[23:44] <shams> Belder, yes running fine, only the proprietary driver window i see nothing.
[23:44] <andygraybeal> iptables interface in ubuntu
[23:44] <MarGul> I want to make sure that I have the proprietary drivers installed. I have a Radeon HD 6400M and when I run the command fglrxinfo I get my information (is this so I know I have proprietary drivers installed)
[23:44] <knightshade> waykool99: if you use dd, don't forget to specify a blocksize value like bs=2048; with the standard value of 512 it's very slow
[23:45] <ButtGoof> yes
[23:45] <ButtGoof> and make sure dest size is bigger
[23:46] <Guest59120> So I am having a install issue with ubuntu 12.04. I have tried usb keys and cd. My resources are limited to what I can do. I can't reinstall from 32 - 64 bit because I installed the wrong version.
[23:46] <Guest59120> Can anyone help me at all
[23:47] <ButtGoof> just reinstall
[23:47] <Guest59120> I tried
[23:47] <Guest59120> it goes to the logo screen on boot
[23:47] <Guest59120> then freezes and my keyboard and mouse turn off
[23:47] <ButtGoof> what logo
[23:47] <Guest59120> or it goes to busy box
[23:47] <Guest59120> ubuntu
[23:47] <Guest59120> with the dots under it
[23:47] <ButtGoof> install mint
[23:47] <Guest59120> what is that?
[23:48] <ButtGoof> its a cleaner version of ubuntu
[23:48] <Guest59120> ok
[23:48] <waykool99> i've found using "Testdisk" incl in Live CD GParted that many old ext 4, swap's, FAT 32 partitions stay on. like they're 'appending' to the MBR.
[23:48] <k1l> Guest59120: dont mind the troll
[23:48] <ButtGoof> realy u crazy hitler child
[23:49] <knightshade> o.O
[23:53] <wad> So I'm trying to get the NVidia driver working on my new laptop. Installed it, but the video isn't working. X reports that: (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[23:54] <wad> Looking in xorg.conf, it's trying to set up a screen... what could be wrong?
[23:58] <hengha> I kept getting mising -lresolv on ubuntu 13.10, I got build-essential installed already, which package may I missed already ?